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Speaker 1: Tonight's guests are Scott Bruce. If you don't chat.

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Speaker 2: Looking back on life that you leave him then.

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Speaker 3: Rested home in the crowd, stick around through the clean,

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the feeling whore the fire. You'll be dancing around on

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hearing the sound of treating and no one cares where

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he's coming from my ears and no riding feeding and

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Speaker 2: He's days, you know, want.

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Speaker 3: These days, no need the world.

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Speaker 2: Look at the lances.

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Speaker 1: Want it sast.

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Speaker 3: These are the test my cos.

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Speaker 4: My cost.

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Speaker 3: Leading, the fuse of the ashes, the spirits that epim.

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Speaker 2: Looking down the house.

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Speaker 1: We're life from the Untold Radio Network. It's Untold Radio

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AM with Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co

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host Jeff Pirella Junior.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's the ticket.

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Speaker 1: Now Here are your Untold Radio a M posts Doug

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high Check and Jeff Corella Jr.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello and welcome hello everyone out there.

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Speaker 3: It's been a weird day today. And toldians, I just

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got a call that Vet's father was in a rollover

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smart rollover accident up in Canada and he walked away

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on scathe but everybody else serious. Oh that's terrible, like

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body cast. Serious. So and I know you had some

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bad news today too. Yeah. Yeah, so not fun, not

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fun at all. But anyhow, we'll we'll carry on. It's uh,

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what episode three or seven? Three? Seven? Yeah, on this

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very sultry, hot, humid night, and he's probably hot everywhere.

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Speaker 5: It's gross outside. I haven't gone outside hardly at all

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a couple of days. It's no fun.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can see you haven't shaved.

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Speaker 5: I have not shaved in I don't know about three

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weeks now. I think it's a three week beard. Three

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weeks today too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a lifetime beard for me.

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Speaker 5: Not hard for me to grow a beard.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah I can. I can grow in, but

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it comes out like all different colors.

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Speaker 5: It's like, well it used to be black. I miss

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that used to have black hair and not anymore. Pretty

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pretty young.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what happens, you've lost the coloring.

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Speaker 5: I guess it just leaves one day. Yeah, I started going,

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I started getting pretty great. Yeah, fifty four now for

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me it was eighteen yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like eighteen all right, So we have

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two great guests. We have Scott Brush and Bill Chappi

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on tonight. Both yeah, both our Midwestern researches. Research research researches.

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And I say that researchers who focus, Yeah, they focus

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on something kind of especially unsettling in that strange encounters

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in our own backyard, like in urban areas, the edge

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of our parks, the back at the backside of Walmart,

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you know what I mean. So the suburbs. So we're

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going to be talking about strange encounters in and around

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urban areas. Their research takes them into reports of bigfoot,

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dog man, and other unexplained creatures. There you go. Yeah,

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so if you have a big foot sighting near highways businesses,

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you're not crazy. It's it's a real thing. They punch in.

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I think, uh, monsters and creatures feel safer in the suburbs.

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There's no guns. There's no guns. No, there's no no hunting.

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Speaker 5: No hunting dogs, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Dogs around leashes. So there you go. What else you've got? So,

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I guess we're just gonna do. I've got Tech Breakdown.

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We don't have clips tonight, but we do have Tech Breakdown.

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We have our weird and Fast news and weird fact. Yeah,

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yeah it is. I don't know why, but we've been

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smoked out. My lungs are still burning from me other

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today it was a little better. Yeah today, then yesterday

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was okay, but the day before it was bad. I

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literally we're just burning, like you could feel a burn.

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kind of weird. And we're not the only ones. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I was in luth early this week and it was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, folks are up on the range, up on the range,

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on the Iron Range, Minnesota's Iron Range for those what

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Speaker 3: Well, it makes for pretty sunsets, but yeah, it's not

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good for our lungs, all right, So you're definitely gonna

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want to grab a comfy chair, gymer, the lights, definitely,

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lock the doors, double check them, all the doors, the windows,

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lock them, and to get ready for a few chills

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and goosebumps. I think tonight with these your squatch bait

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have with wildlife it's shocking. We literally had a battle

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off a big wild turkey the other day.

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Speaker 5: Get aggressive, Yeah, they do aggressive.

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Speaker 3: It's like park right on the bike trail going you're

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not passing without a fight. Yeah. And you know, we've

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got bears running around all over our neighborhood and things

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of channed coyotes. Things have changed.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it aren't even remarkable anymore.

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Speaker 3: It's just you just oh my god, I think we

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see a rabbit like every fifteen foot chuff.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they're everywhere I live. I live in the city,

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I live in a Noka and it's as rabbits everywhere

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in town. What do you think has happened with the rabbits?

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Speaker 3: Been plenty of hawks and eagles to prey, you know,

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on the rabbits. So I don't know, somethings out of balance,

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seems like it. Yeah, let's see, well, I think I

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covered everything. Let's let's hit it. When they're weird and fasts.

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Speaker 2: It's time for weird and fast knees.

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Speaker 3: First off, scientists build a poop clock for monkeys. What

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the hell is a poop clock?

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Speaker 5: Poop clock? I don't have one of those, No, you.

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Speaker 3: Need one, I'll buy you one. Scientists can now estimate

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the biological age of wild monkeys without catching them or

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drying blood. They only need fresh droppings. Researchers studying monkeys

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in Costa Rica develop up to fecal and you can

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say the word eigen epigenetic clock. See, that's what we're

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gonna get you. You just pooping it and tells you

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how hold you are every day. An epigenetic clock.

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Speaker 5: That reminds me what's what's brown and sounds like a

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bell dung dung god.

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Speaker 3: Sorrysts, I heard a funny joke today, but I cannot

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repeat it. It says this method could reveal whether drought,

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habitat loss, stress, or poor nutrition causes wild animals to

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age faster. It may eventually lead or let conservative and

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concern conservationists to monitor the health of entire populations by

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walking through the forest with collection bags instead of tranquilizer darts.

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Speaker 5: Now if you're if you're an intern on a field

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where that's what you're going to be doing now, is collecting.

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Speaker 3: Poop. Yeah, Well, I think it's cool that they can

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tell no, obviously, not only what species, but how old

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they are by the poop.

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maybe they can age the animal through DNA. Yeah, that

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would be nice, all right. Next next, the air filter

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knows who was in the room. This is This is

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an article that appeared July sixteen, three days ago. Ordinary

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air filters are turning out to be an accidental DNA

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collection machine. Researchers can recover environmental DNA from trapped pollen,

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bungle spores, viruses, animal cells, and microscopic flakes. So maybe

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out in the forest. No no, no, no no no.

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The dust, the body dust. But my body, my buddy, buddy,

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my buddy calls body dust. That we go. We go

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into it like an older bar and he always goes, man,

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this place is full of a lot of body dust.

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Speaker 5: That's what most household dust is a lot of it is.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, it says. Anyhow, animal cells, microscopic flakes

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of human skin create what amounts to a genetic record

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of everything that recently passed through the air. This could

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help scientists detect endangered animals, monitor pathogens, and survey biodiversity

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without seeing or capturing a single creature, but it also

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creates a creepy privacy question. The buildings of ventilation filter

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may quietly collect human genetic information from everyone that yeah,

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that's that's interesting. Be careful where you go if you're

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a criminal. And then apparently an orange lipped monkey roared

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into science here on July sixteenth. This is a brand

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new officially identified as a striking new monkey species in

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the Democratic Republic of Congo called Colabus. And it's the

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second part is congenious or lickwilly, lickwillie. That's it. Disagree

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with me, Joff absolutely to say you pronounce that really good,

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doug perfect. Apparently this thing has been collected by local communities.

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It has like a bigfoot. It's got glossy black fur,

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vivid orange lips, in a vocal repertoire that includes deep roarers, grunts,

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and pig like snorts. DNA analysis indicates it's an evolutionary

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line separated from its closest known relative roughly five million

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years ago. The monkey appears to occupy only a limited

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region of the Lomani National Park. So how did it

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just wonder how many people reported it before it was

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actually documented? That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 5: And would you believe it? I probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: How many you know? For it was this like a

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thirty year thing where people are reporting orange lipped monkeys

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and nobody ever you know it, said oh yeah, right, whatever,

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yeah whatever. So apparently the monkey appears to occupy only

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a limited region, like I mentioned, so researchers are already

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recommending that it'd be considered an endangered species because of

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hunting and habitat loss. So there you go. Interesting. Yeah,

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that's the first African monkey I think discovered in a long, long,

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long long time. Yeah, I think so, Like how long

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do you think, Jeff? Upwards of three years? Three? I

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think it's thirty while all right, next, kidneys and livers

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printed in outer space? Nice pictured, Jeff?

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Speaker 5: That you was up there this morning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah that you took? Did you? Whose ear? Is it?

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could be a bioprinter. Think about this, a bioprinter, It's

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like a three D printer. Aboard the International Space Station

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reportedly produced kidney and liver tissue in orbit, the first

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time those multiple tissue types have been manufactured away from Earth.

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The system also produced cartilage samples and twenty eight experimental

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nerve repair implants before the materials were returned to board

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space x It says micro gravity allows cells to assemble

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without collapsing, and I could see a weightless condition would

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Speaker 5: Uh definitely, Yeah, that would definitely help three D printing.

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potentially creating smoother and more uniform tissue, so they can

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be they'll be making hot dogs up in space soon.

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Speaker 5: You think, let's not think about it too much.

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Speaker 3: Oh, all right, enough of that crap. Gross it is gross. Um.

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Apparently African DNA survived fifty thousand years Oh that's interesting. Yeah,

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scientists recovered genetic material that from roughly fifty thousand year

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old mountain reed buck tooth discovered in South Africa's boom

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Plaz Cave. All right, boom pla cave. It maybe the

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old your thanks Jeff for your support, your your pronunciator

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pronunciation support, and said it may be the oldest DNA

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yet recovered from the sub Saharan African or sub Saharan Africa,

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where heat and moisture were long assumed to destroy ancient

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genetic material. Researchers also obtained DNA from other ice age animals,

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including ancient buffalo and will thebeast. The discovery suggests that

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African caves and high altitude sites may hold far more

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recoverable ancient DNA than previously believed. So there we go. Oh,

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you can be a to We're gonna be able to

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bring back everything.

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Speaker 5: Comic from Eric here, fifty thousand year old DNA is

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not uncommon, true, but that's mostly stuff from northern climates.

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Speaker 3: Wellhy even I even said that it says researchers obtained

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just distressing Eric's comment there.

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Speaker 5: You're wrong, Eric, you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: You're just you're always wrong.

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Speaker 5: You're wrong.

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Speaker 3: No, just joking. Eric's smart guy.

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Speaker 5: He's a very smart guy, and he's usually right.

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Speaker 3: I'd say half the time. All right. Number eight Lonely

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A lonely toad returns after sixty five years. So apparently

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a male woodhouse toad has suddenly appeared at the Springs

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Preserve in Las Vegas. Now, what the hell is a

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toad doing in Las Vegas to begin with? For the

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first time since a approximately nineteen sixty two, cameras recorded

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this toad calling repeatedly for a mate. Where did they

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come from? Jeff? How do they declare something extinct in

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nineteen sixty two and then suddenly it reappears.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing that's happened so many times.

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lazareuth animal. All Right, I said, this toad maybe the

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first pioneer of returning population or simply the loneliest bachelor

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in Nevada. Either way, his arrivals suggests that habitat restoration

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at the preserve maybe recreating conditions suitable for wildlife that vanished.

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Speaker 5: Somewhere in the Come on there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they had to be a breeding population. Do

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you think there's like a gen bank the aliens have

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and they just like, oh, let's just drop one off again.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know, but what about my theory? Sure?

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Speaker 5: Why not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Why not? Mine's way more fun. I'm not gonna

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tell you're rock could be yeah, okay, next one is

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really interesting, and I know you took this picture. You

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did a great job. A bottle cap becomes a floating

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Noah's ark. This is pretty cool. I know this is cool.

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Scientists examining a single plastic bottle cap found near southern

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Japan discovered, in astonishing listen to this, three hundred and

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seven marine organisms living on or around it. The tiny

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pas messengers included barnacles, crustaceans, worms, including one go ahead, Jeff,

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poly polycat worm species. I could be wrong. I think

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you're wrong, but that's good. I like it. I like

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the way you like the way you said it a

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polykeet worm species that has never ever previously been recorded

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in Japanese waters. The discovery shows the ocean trash does

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more than pollute beaches. Floating plastic can become a miniature

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traveling ecosystem, carrying animals across huge distances and possibly introducing

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invasive invasive species. So there you go. I can see

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that a bottle, stuff swims in.

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Speaker 5: It, a piece of wood. It could happen to anything,

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but that picture is amazing. It is I was south

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southern Japan this morning. Yeah, flew up to the space

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dist that last picture, and yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, it's been busy, and of course

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I went to the the Lost City. You went to Japan.

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I went to the Lost City to take this picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It says a hidden furnace feeds the Lost City oceans

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and extreme life is about And this was just published

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two days ago. Scientists drilled approximately one point three kilometers

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beneath the Atlantic sea floor near the Lost City's hydro

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thermal field and found extremely hot, hydrogen rich water that

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may be powering one of our strangers ecosystems. Unlike from

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familiar black smoker vents, lost cities, tall pale towers support

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organisms using chemical energy rather than sunlight. The discovery suggests

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a hidden underground reservoir that's been feeding the vents from

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deep inside the earth. And I don't really give a

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crap because I ain't going down there. Oh hello to Jeff.

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Speaker 5: It's completely unique stuff down there, and alien company doesn't

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come to the surface, and it's yeah, it's uh, it's

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a completely different type of life.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy alien style ecosystem.

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Speaker 5: For sure, life finds a way, as they say it does.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's it for the news. Let's just do

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where a quick, very very weird fact of the weird

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fact of the week.

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Speaker 7: It's now time for untold radio weird fact of the week.

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Speaker 1: That is kind of weird.

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Speaker 3: How about a sea slug that cuts its own head off,

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it's own head, It just takes it off and grows

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a new body. Could you imagine?

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Speaker 5: That's strange?

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Speaker 3: That is weird, weird.

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Speaker 5: That's a weird fact.

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Speaker 3: That is a weird fact heard this week. Oh my god.

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Or is it the body growing a new head? Or

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is it the head growing a new body. We're gonna

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find out, all right, The sea slug cuts its own

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head and grows a new body. Two subspecies of the

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Oh my god, these words. These scientists say it again,

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second glosson. Yes, it's the old Saca gloss and sea

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slug that we all know about and lovely. Apparently it

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can deliberately detach their own heads from their bodies. How

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they do it, I have no idea. The severed head

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remains alive, crawls around, begins feeding again, and then grows

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an entirely new body, including a new heart, new internal organs,

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and researchers think the extreme self amputation may help the

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slugs escape internal parasites. So that's what you do. You

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get diarrhea. Younger slugs regenerate successfully and roughly three weeks,

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while the discarded headless bodies never grew new heads. So

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heads grow bodies, bodies do not grow heads. Scientists suspect

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the head survives partly by using stolen chloroplasts from LGA,

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allowing it to temporarily gain energy from sunlight while rebuilding itself.

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So it cuts its own hand off, girls a new body,

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and somehow avoids any hospital bills. That's crazy, none, Oh

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my goodness.

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Speaker 5: That's a weird fact. A very weird fact.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very weird. And then for our tech breakdown,

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I want to talk about a new, a new old

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kind of radio. Do you remember the old next cell phones?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: And you could push a button and just like I

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remember we all had him at the office and I

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could just call, like I have one of my sales

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guys and just like bug them in the middle of

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the night, just like a walkie talkie. Yep. But it

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was clear, you know, I was free of interference. Well,

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once again I want to bring to your attention which

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was brought to my attention again by Michael Waldy, the

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great Michael Waldy from Texas. He called and we were

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talking about technology, and he was talking about great these

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radios were, and I said, can I do it for

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my tech breakdown? He said yeah. So, anyhow, this is

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a what's called a rapid radio. And why would you

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want to use a rapid radio over a walkie talkie?

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So it says rapid radios are basically nationwide walkie talkies

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powered by cellular networks. There's no dialing, no ringing, and

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no cell phone app. You press the button instantly talk

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privately to one person or broadcast to everybody that's got

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one in your group, which would be great for an expedition.

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It says they can connect users thousands of miles apart,

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automatically search for major cellular learn networks, and they will

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support groups up to two hundred people. They delivered five

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days of standby bower and a two radio set currently

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lists four sit down. It's not cheap three ninety nine,

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but the first year of service included though, So you

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get two radios three ninety nine and you get the

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service for free for the one year. Otherwise I believe

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it's like fifty bucks a year for each radio, so

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it would be one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 5: And per Yeah, you really need to have a lot

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of use.

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Speaker 3: For it to spend, Yeah, I think so. I think

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what the advantages are is it's obviously a cell phone

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you kind of need to call somebody, and this avoids

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that I could see. This would be you know, for

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a little higher end expedition where everybody's early organized. This

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would be a nice addition.

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Speaker 5: We when I was up in Or a couple of

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weeks ago with Brendan, we experimented with a mesh network.

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You had talked about that tech breakdown a while ago

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just we use little just their tiny little gadgets smaller

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than a cell phone. You just text on them. But

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they don't need self you know, they need they need

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a wireless mesh network, which yeah we did with the

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Wi Fi stuff and percent yet but they were I mean,

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we communicated and it doesn't you cell phone doesn't you

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sell doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Use radio waves.

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Speaker 5: But we were able to text back and forth across

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the network for free.

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Speaker 3: And how far away could you be? You have to

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be within the wireless service.

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Speaker 5: The wireless yeah, yeah, within the wireless but it's pretty

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easy to uh maybe Brendan well, I can't remember the

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details about it, but it's pretty easy to get take

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stend that network.

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Speaker 3: Very cool, very cool. Anyhow, so if you, uh I

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have an interest in this, you know they do work good.

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Michael Waldy loves them.

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Speaker 5: Pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: And uh I see they have bottom of this crap

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o meter eight twenty percent cellular dependent. So there you go.

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Mm hm ah, what do we got now? We have

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I think we have Scott.

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Speaker 5: Scott's backstage ratios.

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back too. It looks like we have Scott in the

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backstage area. And let me just quickly introduce Scott. Scott

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Brush is from Michigan. Same incredible environment as kind of Minnesota.

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In Wisconsin, the northern part. It's it's a very highly

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productive environment. Scott is an aspiring author, US Air Force veteran,

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He's a jim rat, he's a big foot field researcher,

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in an amateur poet. Cool. And he is from Monroe, Michigan.

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I don't know, I don't know exactly. I think it's

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upper Michigan. Maybe do you know where Mini was? We'll

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ask him. Anyhow, let's welcome Scott.

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Speaker 5: Welcome Scott here he is.

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Speaker 4: Scott, Hey, guys, how's it going good?

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Speaker 3: Good, good to meet you.

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Speaker 10: You too, Thank you for the opportunity. I was like,

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no way, Doug Heichak just said come on my show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I am. I'm excited to have excited

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to have you on. I I feel that, uh, there's

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probably maybe only one percent of the people I know

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nowadays and big for research. There was a time I

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knew everybody, like everybody, and you know, he started at

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the top, guys like John Green and you know, uh,

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you know Rick Nole and all kinds of the people

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that were in it before I was Matt Moneymaker.

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Speaker 6: Guys like that.

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Speaker 3: But there were so few and now there's just a

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lot of people, which is great, but.

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Speaker 5: Talented, hard working, just really smart people. There are really

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00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:17,079
really high quality people lots.

470
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I am so. I was excited to meet you. Scott. Okay,

471
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:24,880
so you're from Michigan. Are you in the upper part

472
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,760
or the lower?

473
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: Monroe was actually the lower part.

474
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,679
Speaker 10: I'm about fifteen miles from the Toledo, Ohio border.

475
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, and Ohio is also a good bigfoot area.

476
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239
Tell me, yes, yeah, So just tell me about the

477
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,159
area that you kind of focus on.

478
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 10: Honestly, I've always been a believer, you don't get me wrong.

479
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,079
I've always thought Bigfoot can exist in mountains and all

480
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:51,119
that stuff. It's it's not hard to fathom something living

481
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:53,480
way out in the middle of the woods somewhere when

482
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:55,679
I had an experience like in more of like a

483
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,079
city environment, like the back of the local park six

484
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,320
or seven hiking all that connects to all the green

485
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,599
ways of the farmers and stuff in the area. Semon

486
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,639
Roe is like surrounded by plots of major land where

487
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,199
a lot of overs are own for generations. So a

488
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:12,840
lot of that land all connects to Lake Erie, which

489
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,760
connects to a lot of old trails that were used

490
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,159
during the war. So these things can get around, yeah,

491
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,599
relatively effortlessly.

492
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm kind of I'm really with you

493
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,599
on this because there's so many advantages to be on

494
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:33,519
the edges of you know, the urban areas. It's more food,

495
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:38,559
it's more prey. And I always tell people when I

496
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:43,840
go out on like floatplane trips where I get dropped

497
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,920
off in the middle of the wilderness, you never see

498
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,280
any animals. I mean, it's a thrill to see a seagull,

499
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,840
one seagull on a ten day trip, or maybe you

500
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,800
might see a pine martin maybe every third trip, but

501
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,960
general you don't see anything. But I go on a

502
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,639
bike ride around the city around the suburbs. And let's see,

503
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:12,480
I got Oh there was twenty deer herd. There's like

504
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,440
a bunch of wild turkeys. Oh there's a fox. Tons

505
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:20,559
of rabbits, not deer, yeah, weird deer, tons of raptors,

506
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,079
tons of oh. I mean, just it's crazy.

507
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 10: Forget the dumpsters, you know, late at night going behind

508
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:28,239
McDonald's and breaking into the dumpsters and all that kind

509
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,880
of stuff too.

510
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and people just have to realize that you don't

511
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,280
need to go out in the middle of nowhere to

512
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,079
do research. You just have to get in the right corridors.

513
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:46,039
Power line cuts, streams, creeks, railroad tracks are great for research.

514
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 10: Tons of those here, Lots of swampy areas, you know,

515
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,280
for cart fishing. I mean, there was just a sighting

516
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,840
here in May thirteenth of twenty twenty five, and the

517
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,639
BFRO credited as legit. So I mean not that I

518
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,639
need to bfr road to tell me what I already

519
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:03,840
believe in and no, but it's just cool to have

520
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,800
an accredited, you know, relatively accredited group be like, yeah,

521
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,679
something was there.

522
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,639
Speaker 3: Well, I've had two sidings that were really good. One

523
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:20,480
was definitely in an urban area. I was driving down

524
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:25,360
a fairly busy highway, a non divided highway through the woods,

525
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,239
but it separates this road separates two wilderness areas. But

526
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,679
yet it's still only six miles from restaurants, gas stations,

527
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,719
blah blah blah. And there's a bigfoot walking alongside the road.

528
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,760
Obviously it was taking a shortcut to get into this

529
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:50,559
wilderness area on the Rice Creek watershed area. And it

530
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,639
didn't give it. Damn. It just didn't give a dam

531
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,360
And it was it was just plowing over alders and

532
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,400
small sapling just to get into that area and disappeared

533
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,320
into the swamp basically. But I'll bet you no less

534
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,840
than twenty cars saw that creature if they were observing

535
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,159
even a little bit.

536
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:19,559
Speaker 10: It's crazy to think, Yeah, they can just drive down

537
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:22,320
the road to the little park and I'm more likely

538
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,800
to have a sighting than I am padding over to

539
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,760
like the Rocky.

540
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: Mountains, yeah, or taking a real expensive trip into the

541
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,519
you know, being dropped off, or trying to four wheel

542
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:35,400
into a very remote area. I actually do. I do.

543
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,320
And even in a remote area, they tend to kind

544
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,159
of come towards whatever civilized like we go to cell road,

545
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,280
which is the most remote area that I go to

546
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,400
on a regular basis. You get dropped off by a

547
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,639
flow plane. There's no roads in there. The only way

548
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:54,760
to get in there is plane. You get dropped off.

549
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:58,800
And yet the creatures come around the cabin, the one

550
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:04,519
man made object there. Why because every six days people

551
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:09,119
throw out all of the perishable food that they bring up.

552
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:11,800
We all just bring two much food up there, and

553
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,760
it's you know, and you can just you dump it

554
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,920
all out behind the cabin, you know, fifty yards behind

555
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,599
the cabin, and they know that. So every six days

556
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:25,320
there's a grocery store laid out there of exotic food

557
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,519
and fruit and meat and you know, eggs and you know,

558
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:32,840
things are not going to find in the wilderness very easy.

559
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,159
Speaker 10: And I love how you said, you know, pretty much

560
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,280
every six days, because I really think these things operate

561
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,559
on a pattern in a lot of the behaviors in

562
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,199
their lives. Yeah, you can almost guarantee a time of

563
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,039
day if you're in an active area where where you're

564
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:48,320
gonna encounter them. And for me, I'm going to say

565
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,880
that's probably one in the afternoon, Like I've had between

566
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,199
one and seven just loaded with activity.

567
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: Well, you bring Okay, that brings up a really cool

568
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:05,320
topic because they're probably not gonna have the same kind

569
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,840
of patterns living in these urban areas, or at least

570
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,199
punching into these urban areas. They're gonna be up at

571
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:17,360
two in the afternoon, They're gonna be doing all sorts

572
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,199
of weird you know things. They're not gonna be predictably

573
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,679
like between you know, uh, midnight and four in the morning.

574
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,840
There they may you may have a run in in

575
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,360
the middle of the afternoon, you know, because.

576
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,559
Speaker 10: It's like their TV. You know, they're watching people play soccer.

577
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,280
You know, the softball fields are there, they're watching from

578
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,119
the tree lines. I mean, I would think they probably

579
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,119
can pick up on broken English that way too.

580
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:43,519
Speaker 4: Man.

581
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,639
Speaker 3: Okay, so you bring up a really good point, Scott.

582
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:49,280
I mean, we're we're definitely on the same wave length, Okay.

583
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,880
Because the day that we saw our sasquatch walking along

584
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,199
the road, there happened to be a little hometown little

585
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,719
water ski show on a lake. There's never anybody on

586
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:05,360
it's a desolate lake, nobody lives on it. They put

587
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,159
on this little water ski show and guess what was

588
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:14,320
there on the shore? Probably twenty children, and this thing

589
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,800
we believed. Our theory was it came to spy on

590
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,679
these kids. Was it a mother? I don't you know.

591
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,360
I don't know, but they're really attracted to little groups

592
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,119
of people, especially little ones.

593
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 10: And that's why I think my park is such a

594
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,559
hotbed because there's so much going on there at any

595
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,840
given time, especially in the summer. You know, kids are

596
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,480
out of school, softball teams, we got the bike, the

597
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,880
skating rink, and everything is right there. Yeah, so there's

598
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,079
a lot going on. So it's like, why not we

599
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:50,119
have a visual feast. We can't hunt back there, and

600
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:52,480
it connects to other people's properties where you know they

601
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:57,320
can hunt. Many used game trails also culverts, massive eight

602
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,920
foot nine foot wide ten foots all culverts like the drains,

603
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:03,000
which I think they use a travel from tree line

604
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:04,880
to tree line unseen as well.

605
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah that's probably true. But the power line cuts are

606
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,280
like usually bordered by thick forests and they can just

607
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:22,599
zip right through these these open areas and there's seems

608
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:26,360
to be more like swamp land a lot of times,

609
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:31,039
green belts. There's bike pass a lot of times they'll

610
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:37,320
use those for travel walkways at night. We even find

611
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,400
we find shelters. Do you ever find shelters near the park? Yes?

612
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 10: And these things, and I'm like, how is nobody else

613
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,280
questioning why there's teepee structures twenty feet off the path?

614
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

615
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 10: I'm looking at it like nobody's going out of their

616
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:56,320
way to do that, especially with the size of some

617
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,599
of the logs and length of the sticks.

618
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: Gee, I follow one was it today? I think it

619
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:07,360
was today that was wedged a lot did not come

620
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,559
from anywhere near, and it wasn't there the other day,

621
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:13,679
and it was lodged. There was a huge log that

622
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,599
was wedged into another tree. And that tree that was

623
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:22,719
wedged in there came from nowhere like there's nowhere near there,

624
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,880
was carried there and it was what would it weigh

625
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,239
I'm guessing about nine hundred pounds.

626
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 4: That's like warm up weight for a sasquatch.

627
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: Jeez. Yeah, It's like and I've seen in the same

628
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:41,760
area eighty foot tall, sixty foot tall structures, teepees that tall.

629
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Next day they're gone and then I don't know if

630
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:49,920
the Forest services taking them down, and then they'll be

631
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,559
back again. It'll be rebuilt. And I'm like, what.

632
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 10: Makes sense that you say, the forest Service or even

633
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,679
like the park personnel part out, Yeah, the parkers. Suddenly

634
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:04,840
we have all these strange, pretty decently and engineered structures.

635
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,119
A lot of them intersect at the top, like do

636
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,480
you know what they're doing? And then suddenly they're gone,

637
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:11,679
and you're like, are they trying to take our attention

638
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,639
away from them?

639
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:13,599
Speaker 4: That's why the.

640
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 10: Staff are kind of crap. We got to get in

641
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,159
here and break these down.

642
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 6: You know.

643
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I it's it's just a whole nother world. Okay,

644
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:26,199
So what do you think that they're Do you think

645
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,679
they're sleeping there? Do you think they're kind of punching

646
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,880
in during the daytime?

647
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: I think they're sleeping.

648
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 10: Basically, we have a runway, there's like a little airport,

649
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,360
and just to the left of that airport is a

650
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,920
real thick, like few acres of trees. You can watch

651
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,199
them in the tree line during the day, just chilling,

652
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,639
just sitting there watching. I wonder if they're watching the

653
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:49,760
planes going by, and then they'll go in the culverts,

654
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,400
is my theory, go all the way across that field.

655
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,119
Speaker 4: Boom.

656
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 10: They're righting this orange trail loop at this park and

657
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:58,760
that's immediately pops out where all the hunting.

658
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,639
Speaker 4: Trails are, where the deer and stuff.

659
00:45:59,639 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: You do.

660
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 10: Like, so, I think they have an engineered plan of

661
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,840
how they travel to eat, to you know, relatively be

662
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,679
unspotted all those things.

663
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 3: Now, if people can put up comments like somebody had

664
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,039
put up a comment about there was a sighting right

665
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:23,960
by a disc golf course, Yeah, which most of those,

666
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:28,760
like those disc golf courses are forested. We've got one

667
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,760
near our home that's just surrounded by forest, and uh,

668
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,159
that's this perfect habitat. You know. Often I wonder a

669
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:44,480
lot why there's so damn much wildlife on these suburban edges.

670
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:48,440
I mean it's kind of insane. I think about how

671
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:53,360
much wildlife is hanging around, so the food prey wouldn't

672
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,280
be a problem. I mean, the deer are tend to

673
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,599
be a little more I would say, ignorant of upright people.

674
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:03,039
They're more used to it, and they don't run and flee,

675
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,480
so they'd be easier to hunt.

676
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: I think so too.

677
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 10: And I think that animals in general, especially ones that

678
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,159
are hunted all the time, start to learn where hunting

679
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,440
doesn't really take place. And that's why a lot of

680
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,519
these relatively urbanized environments like parks have such a collective

681
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:23,119
habitat of creatures. They know, Hey, we're pretty safe here.

682
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,599
Speaker 3: By the way, Scott, Bill Chappie is in the back room.

683
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:35,559
Let's just bring Bill on. He's from Delafield, Wisconsin, not

684
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,840
terribly far from you, and maybe he can just he's

685
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,440
got some of the things he wants to talk about. Well,

686
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:44,639
let's hopefully he can just add to the conversation here.

687
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 4: Let's do it Bill.

688
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 5: Welcome Bill.

689
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:51,119
Speaker 4: How's it going.

690
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you guys are using phones, to make

691
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,800
sure your volume's down low so we don't get an echo,

692
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:05,480
that's all. Uh. But I just think that most people,

693
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,639
also in a suburban area are not going to report it.

694
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:11,559
They drive by, like the people that were behind us,

695
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,679
some of them, I'm sure saw that backfoot, and they're

696
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:17,599
just looking at each other going, did you do you

697
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:19,880
know what? I mean? I didn't know, stee what I

698
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,159
didn't know? There's no way and they just kept driving.

699
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:23,960
You know.

700
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 10: Well, Monroe was the sighting of the original nineteen sixty

701
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,280
five Monroe Monster, so we have a lot of lore

702
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,599
that goes back and also the bloodiest battle of the

703
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:35,840
War of eighteen twelve took here, took place here, the

704
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,679
battle for the River Raising. Yeah, and during that time

705
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,440
and the soldiers diaries and journals and stuff, they talk

706
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,840
about eight LA like creatures climbing the walls taking.

707
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:48,119
Speaker 4: The rations during combat. Yeah, so it goes back quite

708
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:48,719
a way here.

709
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:53,519
Speaker 3: So Bill, do you do you kind of concur that

710
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:57,360
we have monsters that are literally living on the edge

711
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,880
of the urban areas and these green space.

712
00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 6: Oh?

713
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:07,559
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And what what are your thoughts? What? Why

714
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:08,480
do you think they are?

715
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,039
Speaker 6: Great question, isn't it? I just don't know.

716
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,559
Speaker 4: It's just, uh, it's all very at this point, it is.

717
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 6: It's so interesting.

718
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,159
Speaker 3: You know.

719
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 6: I saw my first big foot footprint when I was

720
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,519
six years old, almost sixteen years ago up sixty five now,

721
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,199
and uh, and later that summer I saw the Gimblin

722
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,639
Patterson film down in the basement at a Fourth of

723
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,920
July party with his Black Party. And ever since then

724
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:41,440
it's been like a deep guy down the rabbit hole

725
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:43,000
to find out what's going on.

726
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 3: So did you have your sighting Bill near town? Basically, well,

727
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,400
I never saw one. I just wasted footprint. I'm at

728
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,719
the footprint.

729
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,679
Speaker 6: No, it was out in the country where I lived

730
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,760
close to my home.

731
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:03,559
Speaker 3: Okay, but okay, but you say in the country there's

732
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:07,880
houses out in the country and farms. Correct. Yeah.

733
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 6: I was probably three hundred feet from the neighborhood, and

734
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,719
at that time, it was very very out in the country.

735
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,239
But I remember seeing the footprint. It was twenty you know,

736
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,199
like twenty inches long. And I ran up to tell

737
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,239
my mom and dad, you know, and I told my

738
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,679
dad and mom' and there both my mom's cooking dinner,

739
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:36,199
and my dad just he looked at me and just

740
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,199
looked at my mom and said, Bev, what's for dinner?

741
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,960
You know, like you could care less, you know. But

742
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,039
I remember it. I recall it to this day, and

743
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:49,960
I really never left my mind.

744
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, this is the topic that we're going to

745
00:50:54,480 --> 00:51:00,760
continue to hammer tonight. And if anybody has any comments

746
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,920
or sightings they know about that happened next to urban

747
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,159
areas and what I mean urban. Don't get me wrong,

748
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:09,760
I'm talking to the inner city of you know, skyscrapers.

749
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,159
We're not talking about that. We're talking about the suburban

750
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,800
spall that we have going on, all the green corridors

751
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,960
that come very near gas stations. Uh, you know, even malls,

752
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:28,239
but there could be hundreds of acres of wilderness right

753
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,239
behind them. All. That's the kind of setting that we're

754
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,119
talking about. So okay, so we don't I don't know

755
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,679
much about either of you guys, So I want to both.

756
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,960
Why don't you talk a little bit Scott and you know,

757
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:45,119
did you see a creature? And what did you see?

758
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:46,400
And what happened?

759
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 4: Like you start from the beginning, Yeah, well yeah I did.

760
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: Don't drag it out too long, but no.

761
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 10: No, I like to I like to cut to the

762
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,960
meat and potato of the story. My first I don't,

763
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,960
like I said, I've always believe I've researched a subject

764
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,760
for about thirty years. I've always been a believer. But

765
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,519
in July of twenty twenty three, mom my fiance and

766
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:10,119
I decided to get a Airbnb off brid to kind

767
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:11,760
of get away from the city because it's nothing but

768
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,280
sirens and stuff here and I'm like, we're gonna get

769
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,039
this in a kind of a squatchy area. I'm going

770
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:19,280
to kind of make this half research half get away

771
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,800
from it all. And obviously, Athens, Ohio was about twenty

772
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,920
seven to thirty miles away from Hawking Hills, which is

773
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,239
already a known hotspot. So we're sitting around the fire

774
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,639
and I just decided to grab a piece of the

775
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:33,320
cord from the firewood and just do a few tree knocks,

776
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:37,840
and not ten seconds later I heard something back. Of course,

777
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,519
I didn't jump right to conclusions thinking that's what it

778
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:43,719
would be, but I'm like, okay, what are the odds.

779
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,599
And then throughout the night, sitting around the fire, you know,

780
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,000
roast and hot dogs and stuff. Obviously we're creating a

781
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,079
lot of scent cones and stuff like that, and we.

782
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:52,679
Speaker 4: Started to hear things moving in the woods.

783
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 10: And it's not that I immediately jumped to the fact that

784
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,639
they were bigfoot, but I still didn't want to wait

785
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,039
around if it were something else. So we decided to

786
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:03,199
go inside of the cabin, which was basically like a

787
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,760
super heavy duty yurt on top of like a deck.

788
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:08,519
There was a solar crank to like flush the toilet

789
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:10,639
and everything. You had to hike about a mile in

790
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,159
on this guy's property, which is a farm, and we're

791
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:16,320
sitting around the fire. Like I said, I start hearing stuff.

792
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,639
I'm like, let's go in the house. We are sitting

793
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,239
there in the bed and three a four am something ran.

794
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:25,159
Speaker 4: Into the side of that cabin.

795
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 10: I kid you, not, like it was trying, We're talking

796
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:29,480
kool Aid guys style, trying to run through the side

797
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,519
of the cabin. It didn't come through, but it definitely moved.

798
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,199
And I'm like, we're not leaving. We're not leaving until morning, man,

799
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,039
We're not leaving.

800
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

801
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 4: It was like.

802
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,039
Speaker 10: If you had like a car thrown into a brick wall,

803
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,159
like at high speed, like during a storm or something.

804
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,039
At least that's how I perceived it to be. Out

805
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:54,639
of a dead sleep, and it was absolutely insane. And

806
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:56,519
I'm like, clearly I didn't say what they wanted me

807
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,639
to with that log I must have said something wrong.

808
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,599
Maybe I didn't introduce myself properly.

809
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

810
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:04,079
Speaker 10: And then it was this kind of like gradual harassment

811
00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:07,039
throughout the night, trying to open up the door, which

812
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:10,280
clearly something with opposable thumbs would need to do that

813
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,719
based on the kind of door this was. And then

814
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,400
my fiance, who is a skeptic, open minded mind you,

815
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:19,840
She's like, show me the proof and I'll believe. And

816
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,079
she kind of is more towards belief now. But the

817
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,599
window to the bed was about nine feet off the ground,

818
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:27,719
and I had fallen asleep and she was still awake,

819
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:31,400
and she said something was walking towards that window, bipedal

820
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:34,440
two really really heavy feet. And when she woke me

821
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,360
up and I said, what, the footsteps just stopped like

822
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,920
they just zipped off into nowhere, which is that's a

823
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,480
whole other category I can get into with that. And

824
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:46,440
that's how I got to believe. And after that, I'm like,

825
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,280
there's got to be a lot more out there. And

826
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,679
then when I had my first encounter, which all that

827
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:53,960
stuff could be found on my page the Urban Bigfoot

828
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,760
on Facebook. All the evidence is on there. That's when

829
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,159
we actually were face to face with one was probably

830
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:02,400
forty or fifty feet from the camera. The whole minute

831
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,199
and ten second video is right on Facebook. I've got

832
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:08,679
some stills extracted from the video that we've enhanced. It's

833
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,800
got like an ape and a canine type look to

834
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,519
the face with about five or six inches of ice facing.

835
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 3: Interesting And was this kind of in a semi rural area, I.

836
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 10: Would say about three quarters of a mile from the

837
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,519
park parking lot is when it has happened just into

838
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,400
the woods and it was it was right there, just

839
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,960
right around where there's a known game trill, and we

840
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:37,119
must have caught it hunting. It was probably nine thirty

841
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:39,280
ten o'clock at night when we encountered that one, and

842
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,280
we probably just were out there at the same time

843
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,159
it was doing its thing.

844
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: By the way, Scott, did everybody tell you that you

845
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:47,559
saw like Richard Driver Us?

846
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:52,599
Speaker 4: No, but actually they did. Just now, thank you.

847
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:56,559
Speaker 3: You do. You remind me of the voice of Richard

848
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:57,119
Driver US.

849
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,079
Speaker 10: Nobody has ever given me a compliment like that in

850
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:01,639
any of the podcasts I've ever been on.

851
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: Oh there you go. Why is my my eye is

852
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:09,039
twitching from something? It's not twitching. It's something to do

853
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:11,760
with the studio here, the lighting. It's kind of weird.

854
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,480
It looks like my eyes going level and it's not.

855
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,159
It's not. I assure you, I'll have.

856
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 4: To you're not having a stroke on.

857
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm gonna turn my light up a

858
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,920
little bit. Maybe I'll make it go away. There we go.

859
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:33,679
My light was too low. So, okay, this thing hit

860
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,280
And I've been in cabins that have been hit so

861
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:40,599
hard that it felt like a semi truck ran into

862
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:44,440
him or a big ram Dodge truck to drove right

863
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,360
into the wall. And it's impossible, you know what I mean.

864
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,840
It's just like, well, no human could do that if

865
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,199
they were gonna hoax you. There was no damage on

866
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,239
the cabin, the first cabin that I was in that

867
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:03,079
hit at hard that the bed that we were in

868
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,360
actually moved away from the wall. Whoa, whoa. Yeah. And

869
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,360
it was the first time I heard my daughter, my

870
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,320
youngest daughter. I'd never taken her on expedition, and she

871
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:17,920
sat up and said the F word. She said, well,

872
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:19,280
you know, and.

873
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 4: I'd say, that's one of them free pastimes.

874
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:26,119
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. And I thought, and you know, explained

875
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,760
to her. I'm like, well, they're just trying to intimidate

876
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,159
us or something, you know. We don't know. Maybe they're

877
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:34,679
trying to get us to walk out of the cabin.

878
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:40,000
Maybe they're just doing it on a frustration, maybe the

879
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:43,400
kid they resent the cabin. Possibly, I don't know, but

880
00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:49,159
it seems very angry. And then every night after that

881
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,719
it would attack another wall. So it did my wall first,

882
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,000
and then it did Joe's wall second, then Blaine's wall.

883
00:57:57,079 --> 00:57:58,519
The third night.

884
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,719
Speaker 4: It's targeting all of you, like ken individually.

885
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: It was weird, like how did it even know? But

886
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,800
the fact that it would attack a different wall every

887
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,599
night was quite fascinating. And then and then after that happened,

888
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:17,800
then each night it threw something at each wall versus

889
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:20,880
the big gadget, you know, the giant like truck hit.

890
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:23,559
It did more of a subtle like it would it

891
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:26,519
found Ah, it was a push room that we had

892
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:28,719
left out, and it threw one of those against the

893
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,840
wall and it bounced off, and then a rock on

894
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,000
another one, and you know, it was that kind of

895
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:41,000
a progression. If you ever felt in danger when that,

896
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:43,559
I mean, did you feel like you were in some

897
00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:45,480
kind of danger when that big impact hit.

898
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

899
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 10: I was in such a dead sleep, thank god, that

900
00:58:50,039 --> 00:58:52,480
I don't think I fully processed just how serious of

901
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,199
a moment it was.

902
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: Had I been like a week when it happened.

903
00:58:55,159 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 10: I think that I was protected by that r em

904
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,079
sleep or something for a minute. But it shocked me

905
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,840
so much that I'm still half asleep trying to process

906
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,800
with took place. Yeah, I'm like she my fiances like

907
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,280
we gotta go. I'm like, where are you gonna go?

908
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,400
We're a mile from the car. We're not leaving until

909
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,599
daylight at the very least if we survive the night.

910
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 4: That is exactly you know what I mean.

911
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 10: Like, there's a few tracks and stuff that I had

912
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,679
from there, but the fact that and I'm sure this

913
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,480
gets you too, Doug. The tracks ways leading to nowhere

914
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:27,159
or all of a sudden you'll hear them, then they

915
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:29,480
go away. I mean that's where the woo factor for

916
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:30,800
me comes into play a little bit.

917
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, it still it still throws you off, you know.

918
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: And I know I have a problem talking about the

919
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,760
woot the wolf factor. It's just I have no idea

920
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,199
what these things are. Bill, I don't think you know

921
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:45,639
what these things are. I know you don't either, Scott.

922
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:47,800
And so all we can do is just collect the

923
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,360
data and not come to any solid conclusions. Theories are great,

924
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,519
you know, they make them out of this, make them

925
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:03,239
out We just don't know. But yeah, we've all experienced

926
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,800
things that didn't make any sense. All of us have,

927
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:12,800
probably Bill, don't. I'm not ignoring you. Have you had

928
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,719
any kind of sighting or anything, or has it just

929
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,280
been more a real keen interest into the topic.

930
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,119
Speaker 6: I'm no sighting, just the real keen interest in the subject,

931
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:30,239
the place that they had the Monster Quest sighting of

932
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,880
the season four, episode nine. I went over there. I

933
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,559
was just going out one night to get a gallon

934
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:38,039
of milk.

935
01:00:38,239 --> 01:00:40,559
Speaker 3: Well, tell us what that sighting was, bill before you.

936
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, it was the one where the the werewolf

937
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:49,400
or the bear squatch had taken a deer off the

938
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,519
back of the d NR pickup truck at two o'clock.

939
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: In the morning, right where they were picking up road.

940
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 6: Killed deer right right, and it's the guy was had

941
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,719
put the deer in the back of the pickup truck

942
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,039
and then went in to do its paperwork in side

943
01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:07,559
of the truck and heard a bump and didn't think

944
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:10,199
anything of it, heard another bump, and then looked in

945
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:16,039
your ear and saw like a bear type sasquatch. Yeah,

946
01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:18,079
taking the deer out of the back of the truck,

947
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:21,199
and he took off in the truck, came back five

948
01:01:21,239 --> 01:01:24,719
minutes later. The ramp was gone and the deer was gone,

949
01:01:25,239 --> 01:01:27,960
and it was all over the news in Milwaukee, and

950
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,559
there was quite a few newspaper all that. So it

951
01:01:33,639 --> 01:01:35,719
was really close to my house. So I went over

952
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:41,519
there many times to to you know, see where the

953
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:44,800
situation happened. And it happened right in front of this

954
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:50,039
church that we call Holy Hill. So one night I

955
01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:52,360
went out just to get a gallon of milk, and

956
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,480
I noticed that there was a full blood moon and

957
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:58,639
it was Halloween, and I thought, if I go up

958
01:01:58,679 --> 01:02:03,239
to Holy Hit and get some mixed pictures of you know,

959
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,639
the moon behind the church, it would be really a

960
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:09,719
great picture. So I went up there and I took

961
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,039
some pictures in front of the church, and then I

962
01:02:14,159 --> 01:02:18,920
went down to where this encounter happened and I took

963
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,599
some more pictures, and it just gave me the creepiest

964
01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:27,159
feeling I've ever had. I couldn't even describe it. I

965
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:29,440
got out of the truck to take these three pictures,

966
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,760
and I couldn't get back in the truck fast enough.

967
01:02:32,599 --> 01:02:35,239
And I've you know, driven all over the United States

968
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:38,800
for work, and I'm really not afraid too much, but

969
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,440
this was the creepiest thing that's really ever happened to me.

970
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:45,960
I think just made the hair stand up on the

971
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,599
back of my neck. And I got out of the

972
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:51,519
truck to take those pictures, and you know, I took

973
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:53,960
these three pictures really quick and they're quite blurred. But

974
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,559
when I got home, I noticed the orbs in these pictures,

975
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:00,480
which I didn't see at the time. So I still

976
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:03,880
don't know what that is. And if anybody knows, i'd

977
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,679
like to hear their expertise on it.

978
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: But like I remember, you heard a bunch of.

979
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 6: Whistles, yes, now one mile north of that encounter. That

980
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,039
one happened in two thousand and six. There was another

981
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:25,920
BFRRO report that happened in twenty twenty one where a

982
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,000
kid was driving down the road and saw they asked

983
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,360
about hanging on the side of a tree as he went,

984
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,320
and he went home told his dad and they got

985
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,639
the dog, came back. The dog didn't want anything to

986
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:39,760
do with it, and they filed the report with the BFRRO.

987
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,079
They called the police, and I talked to the dad

988
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:45,679
a couple months after that, and by then he really

989
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:48,320
didn't want anything, you know, to do with anybody else

990
01:03:48,599 --> 01:03:51,320
talking to him. But I went up there one night

991
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:55,840
about a year after this happened, and I had just

992
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,880
drove down there. It was two o'clock in the morning.

993
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,199
I drove down this road and I didn't see anything.

994
01:04:01,199 --> 01:04:04,519
I turned around and came back up and it felt

995
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:07,400
like I had driven over like an eight inch rock.

996
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,199
It lifted the truck off the ground about eight inches.

997
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,000
And I didn't see anything in the road, and I

998
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:16,880
thought I had hit a raccoon. So I turned around

999
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,239
and came back, and I expected to see a dead

1000
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,440
animal in the road, and there was nothing there, so

1001
01:04:24,199 --> 01:04:27,639
that was really strange. And then later the night, I

1002
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:32,159
went down the road and I had my flashlight toward

1003
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:36,400
this encounter area, and I was scanning the swamp with

1004
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:40,800
a high powered delysium light and I wasn't seeing anything.

1005
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,159
And then I heard something whistling at me like this

1006
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:53,559
for three minutes, and it was only within twenty five

1007
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:57,880
feet of me, down in the Cattaills. And this is

1008
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:04,840
July eighteenth at night, at eleven o'clock at night, in

1009
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,159
the middle of summer, and nobody in the right mind

1010
01:05:08,239 --> 01:05:09,880
is going to be down in the swamp doing that.

1011
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,559
And I was so dumbfounded. I had my one foot

1012
01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:14,360
on the brake, one on the gas. I had to

1013
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,320
light out, and I was searching right for where this

1014
01:05:18,719 --> 01:05:21,199
was to make sure it wasn't a human or anything else.

1015
01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:25,840
But I couldn't see anything. And the creep Factory there was.

1016
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,239
It was just beyond description.

1017
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:37,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, the creep factor. Do you, Scott, how brave are you?

1018
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,400
I'm a complete chicken. I'm will brave when I'm with somebody,

1019
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,039
but if I'm alone, forget it.

1020
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,679
Speaker 10: I prefer I mean, it's safer to go at lease

1021
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,840
with two people, you know, just before rule of thumb

1022
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,239
or anything these days. But I've been out there a

1023
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,320
couple of times at two three am by myself on

1024
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,920
some independent investigations. I think that it's necessary to further

1025
01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:00,960
research when you when we start to do with things

1026
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,639
that aren't that common. So me being out there by

1027
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:06,880
myself is going to be listed different phenomena than me

1028
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,679
and my buddy going out there together. So he'll go

1029
01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:12,159
out there by himself. Sometimes I'll go out there by myself.

1030
01:06:12,199 --> 01:06:14,599
Or we're doing like a leap frog tactic and we've

1031
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:18,639
both gotten a lot of different responses trying different things.

1032
01:06:19,199 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the key is not to get eaten.

1033
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,719
Speaker 10: Yes, I mean I can run fast, but forty five

1034
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,280
forty five I don't think I can do forty five.

1035
01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:29,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill, you don't want to get eaten, but you

1036
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,920
get the feeling you're about to be eaten. What is

1037
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,000
that feeling. Do do you think that, like, do you

1038
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:38,679
think Bill was zapped was something or do you think

1039
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,599
it's just a natural instinct for us to be afraid

1040
01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:46,960
of the dark and knowing because we're in the know, right,

1041
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,199
we know monsters are real, and a lot of people don't,

1042
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,239
but we do know. We're in the know that way.

1043
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,960
We don't know what they are, but we know they're real,

1044
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:02,360
and it does something to us. You know. It's my

1045
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,480
head's on a swivel. I've seen way too much not

1046
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,440
buy on all, even if I'm with somebody.

1047
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 10: Oh for sure, I think he probably got in for sounded.

1048
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,800
I believe infrasound is something that's pretty common, and I

1049
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,840
think there's different degrees of severity. I don't think that

1050
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,480
it's something that a sasquatch or any other crypti or

1051
01:07:21,519 --> 01:07:25,079
even normal creatures like tigers utilize it to paralyze their prey.

1052
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:27,679
But I don't think it's something that happens all the time.

1053
01:07:28,199 --> 01:07:31,599
I think that maybe there's juveniles nearby and that's kind

1054
01:07:31,639 --> 01:07:33,280
of like a get out of here, this is your

1055
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,719
only warning. I think it's sometimes it gets part of

1056
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,599
a time. It's time for you to go now, sort

1057
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:42,320
of levels that they have when you're overstay, you're welcome.

1058
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:47,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, have you ever felt that creepy feeling ever,

1059
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:48,960
like even at Brendan's.

1060
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been the ones by myself. And yeah, when

1061
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,800
you when you hear strange things and you don't know

1062
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,920
what it is, Yeah, that's that's unsettling, it's definitely unsettling.

1063
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:01,679
And even if you know what it is, it's unsettling.

1064
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,360
I definitely get a feeling where you can't get out

1065
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,360
of the woods fast enough.

1066
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: But Bill, okay, but what's your goal? Bill? Are you

1067
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:15,920
hoping to see something? Bill? Yes, you are okay? And

1068
01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:21,600
and why why do you want to see something? This curiosity?

1069
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,520
I guess.

1070
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 6: That was have the dash cam going, and okay, it's

1071
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,800
curious about the area, and I go up there quite frequently.

1072
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,880
I was up there a couple of times this last week.

1073
01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:36,800
And I think I told you about the owls that

1074
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,279
were There was an owl right in the middle of

1075
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:42,319
the road when I went up toward this place, and

1076
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,560
he's a screech owl. He's just sitting in the middle

1077
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,600
of the road back to me, really kind of bizarre.

1078
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,000
And he flew up onto a mailbox and I pulled

1079
01:08:51,079 --> 01:08:55,079
up next to him, and he was within hteenth from

1080
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:01,800
the car, just screeching for.

1081
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 4: For several minutes.

1082
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,239
Speaker 6: And then I went to the other side of where

1083
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:09,119
the encounter happened, and three black cats crossing front of my.

1084
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,279
Speaker 4: Three black cats.

1085
01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 6: What this is the creepiest area. It's it's up and down,

1086
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,359
it's kettles and moraines, it's steep gulches, hunter foot drops,

1087
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:25,159
and then it comes up and they made roads on

1088
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:28,279
the crest of the hills. But this place, it is

1089
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,439
just the creepiest place I've ever been to.

1090
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 3: How far do you think you are? How far apart

1091
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:39,279
are you two guys? Do you think he's in? Jeff?

1092
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:46,439
Can you find a map where Bill lives in Delafield, Wisconsin?

1093
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:56,520
And then Scott is from Monroe, Michigan. How far right?

1094
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:58,199
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1095
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 4: Ish ish Yeah, we Toledo.

1096
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:06,119
Speaker 3: That's probably five hundred. Yeah. Okay, guys are far enough.

1097
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,159
You're far enough a part. You're not going to hang out.

1098
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 4: You don't know that you change numbers.

1099
01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 3: You guys would be dangerous together. Oh my god. Okay,

1100
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,079
so we always you know, there's so munch of us

1101
01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:30,119
do research, but we don't really have any goals we're

1102
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:33,439
just curious, just general general curiosity. Do you have a

1103
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,920
specific goal, Scott? Why do? I?

1104
01:10:38,039 --> 01:10:41,399
Speaker 10: Personally like all of my research comes from a biblical perspective.

1105
01:10:41,399 --> 01:10:42,840
I think these things go all the way back to

1106
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:43,920
before the flood.

1107
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 4: So I like to follow.

1108
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 10: I'm big and I researched the Book of Enoch extensively,

1109
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,760
the Book of Giants, a lot of the a lot

1110
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,880
of that thing, and that's litose sorts of texts. And

1111
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,840
I think that our Bigfoot, in all of our sirens

1112
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,399
and the creatures are ultimately due to the incursion from

1113
01:10:58,399 --> 01:11:02,079
the fallen angels. So I I hope to continue my research.

1114
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:03,560
What I think?

1115
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,079
Speaker 3: Are you trying to? Yeah, are you trying to, like

1116
01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:09,560
maybe even kind of prove out that theory.

1117
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 4: I would love to prove that theory. Oh, you know,

1118
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,159
it's I don't know what it is. We all have

1119
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:15,239
to have our own.

1120
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 10: Line of research, and your research has to support your

1121
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:23,000
beliefs to a certain degree, you know. Yeah, I don't

1122
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,399
want to be rich, you know, but I'd like to

1123
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:26,239
go around and talk about it because I like to

1124
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:28,680
provide a different perspective on things. That's about keeping the

1125
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,319
wonder of the wonder alive to me, it's the mystery.

1126
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 4: You know, Bigfoot.

1127
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,199
Speaker 10: We know he's real, but the idea of him being

1128
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:39,359
real is almost exciting, is you know, it's it's just

1129
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:40,359
the whole idea.

1130
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, what what what gets you? And how

1131
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,119
did you even get interested? Bill? I don't think I

1132
01:11:47,159 --> 01:11:50,079
asked you that. Did you get interested because of shows

1133
01:11:50,119 --> 01:11:54,199
like Monster Quest? Or was it the Patterson Gimblin film

1134
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:55,279
that got you interested?

1135
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:59,199
Speaker 6: It was the Footprint and then it was the film

1136
01:11:59,239 --> 01:12:04,239
of the Gimlin Patterson film that's started at all and

1137
01:12:04,279 --> 01:12:10,079
it's been just relentless after that. It is a great topic.

1138
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:13,439
It's it's so interesting and the more you look at it,

1139
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:18,479
the weirder it gets. But now, Scott about the religious

1140
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,800
aspect of it. And what I find interesting in this

1141
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,840
whole thing is all of these encounters I'm talking about

1142
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,880
take place right at this Holy Hill Church, this Basilica.

1143
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,159
Speaker 3: Church there, Scott, and.

1144
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 6: There has been golden seen there, There's been tragic accidents,

1145
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,159
There's been a lot of good things that have happened

1146
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:42,680
to this church. Just a lot of spooky stories that

1147
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,920
I've heard ever since I was a kid.

1148
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 3: Is the church still open and active? Oh?

1149
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 6: Yes, oh okay, all.

1150
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,279
Speaker 3: Right, so there's still parishioners that go there. It's not

1151
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,159
it's not abandoned or anything.

1152
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:01,279
Speaker 4: Being around a church.

1153
01:13:01,319 --> 01:13:04,399
Speaker 10: I mean there's our bigfoots that they call the ancient ones,

1154
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,880
and those tend to be the more guardian protector types.

1155
01:13:07,319 --> 01:13:09,920
And I think that if you have sasquatch around a church,

1156
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,920
they're probably just keeping an eye on it.

1157
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 4: So you see them as cemeteries.

1158
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,119
Speaker 10: A lot of encounters of them being spotted in cemeteries

1159
01:13:17,159 --> 01:13:18,000
just going down the road.

1160
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1161
01:13:19,079 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 10: It's I think they're guardians of the kind of that

1162
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,520
liminal space between life and death to a degree.

1163
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh okay, So you have this theory, are you

1164
01:13:34,079 --> 01:13:37,800
also open to it? It's just uh, flesh and blood,

1165
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:42,520
you know, whatever creature that's adapted to just hide and seek.

1166
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 10: Oh for sure, I would shaken any one of us

1167
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,199
that proves our theory true.

1168
01:13:48,279 --> 01:13:50,119
Speaker 4: That's a win for the entire community.

1169
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 10: I'll shake the hand of anybody whose research ultimately becomes

1170
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,039
what bigfoot is. But we still have two hundred other

1171
01:13:57,039 --> 01:13:59,359
cryptids so that the jurity continues.

1172
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:03,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. And now we're dealing with the government

1173
01:14:03,239 --> 01:14:09,279
releasing trickle feeding us disclosure on UFOs, So at least

1174
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,319
we know that, you know, they weren't ignoring them like

1175
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:18,399
they said they were, and they're they've been hinting, as

1176
01:14:18,399 --> 01:14:23,239
some of the journalists have been hinting, going, there's some religious,

1177
01:14:23,279 --> 01:14:26,720
spiritual aspect to this whole thing. And what do you

1178
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,199
think about that, Scott? Are you kind of.

1179
01:14:30,119 --> 01:14:31,359
Speaker 4: Under that person? Certain?

1180
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 10: I think that they could be they could be demonic entities. Yeah,

1181
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,880
simply based off of the pattern that they follow. I mean,

1182
01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:42,239
when you when you even go back to the Bible,

1183
01:14:42,279 --> 01:14:44,560
when they speak about UFO, is there there's always a

1184
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,319
sinister here's the bare minimum. I'm going to let you

1185
01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:49,000
know that this is something weird, but I'm not going

1186
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:52,319
to tell you anything beyond that. What the capacity You're

1187
01:14:52,399 --> 01:14:54,760
eighty thousand feet in the air and suddenly like the

1188
01:14:54,760 --> 01:15:00,800
tic tac ufo drops. Nothing exists from this this dimension

1189
01:15:01,239 --> 01:15:04,039
that has the ability to do that without falling out

1190
01:15:04,079 --> 01:15:07,880
of the sky. It's got to be next world technology.

1191
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,720
Do I think the government has tech? Yes, but not

1192
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,119
to that, you know, independent energy balls and all that

1193
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:19,319
kind of stuff. Like No, they could either an advance

1194
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:23,199
civilization in an adjacent or parallel dimension, or they are

1195
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,920
maybe even possible fallen angels. But I think there's a

1196
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,680
lot more to it than just what people think aliens

1197
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,680
are the general public.

1198
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it's a complex issue and God knows.

1199
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,079
I hope, I hope we know. What do you think

1200
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:45,000
Bill about all the religious aspect to this stuff and

1201
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:48,800
the alien tie in? What are your thoughts?

1202
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 6: It could be demonic the alien type stuff. What I've

1203
01:15:54,079 --> 01:15:57,680
tried to find out is about this church area, is

1204
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,159
what's really going on there now? I spoke to a lady,

1205
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,920
Sheila out in Vermont about this and she said, these

1206
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:11,159
creatures are coming from the ground. And and then later

1207
01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:13,720
on a few years ago, I watched this show called

1208
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,039
Dead Files.

1209
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,239
Speaker 3: On the Channel or HBO.

1210
01:16:17,399 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 6: It's all absorbed, and this was about a horse farm

1211
01:16:21,159 --> 01:16:26,039
that was two thousand feet from this church, and basically

1212
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:30,840
they said that there's whatever these things are, they're coming

1213
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:37,039
from the soil or the dirt, or from underground. I

1214
01:16:37,119 --> 01:16:40,399
do think that a lot of these things are coming

1215
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,720
from underground.

1216
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:50,359
Speaker 3: Underground good, that's my theory. Or Scott, what do you

1217
01:16:51,279 --> 01:16:54,920
think about that? I mean the underground, the caves and

1218
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,039
all that kind of stuff.

1219
01:16:56,359 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 4: Oh, for sure, I mean there's a so much like mass.

1220
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 10: We haven't discovered leonol Let alone the ocean subterranean though.

1221
01:17:04,039 --> 01:17:08,840
I mean, obviously they have found civilizations of that has

1222
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,159
suddenly moved into the earth, you know, ten thousand years ago,

1223
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:13,479
and nobody knows why. And who's to say that there

1224
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,119
aren't still some remnant things living down there. And well,

1225
01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:18,119
we know the government has bases and stuff going on

1226
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:20,760
down there for research and everything too, So who knows

1227
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,399
what's a natural like grays and cohabitation or whatever, or

1228
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,439
if it's just some sort of military experiment.

1229
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 3: And do you ever consider that there's a you know,

1230
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,920
this whole phenomenon, all of these cryptids, all of these aliens, bigfoot,

1231
01:17:38,039 --> 01:17:41,560
dog men are all connected, Mothman, do you think they're

1232
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:46,920
all kind of under one big umbrella of of fallen

1233
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,279
angels or whatever?

1234
01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 4: I do?

1235
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 6: I do?

1236
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 4: I do? I think that it changes though, because think

1237
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:54,359
about it.

1238
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,039
Speaker 10: Let's say let's say Sasquatch has powers, just for the

1239
01:17:57,079 --> 01:18:00,920
sake of discussion. As the bloodline, obviously there's breeding population.

1240
01:18:01,159 --> 01:18:03,760
As the bloodline continues.

1241
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 4: It would become diluted.

1242
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 10: We would just have essentially normal flesh and blood specimens

1243
01:18:09,319 --> 01:18:11,399
versus ones that have the ability to mind speak and

1244
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:12,319
all that sort of thing.

1245
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 4: In all honesty, so I think that.

1246
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm I'm sorry I had my mic off. You've brought

1247
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,439
up mind speak? Is that anything, Bill Scott? Have you

1248
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:29,880
ever experienced anything like that?

1249
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 10: I've never personally had mine speak happen to me. I'm

1250
01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:36,359
kind of hoping it does. That would kind of round

1251
01:18:36,399 --> 01:18:39,000
healthy experience as a whole. But I've talked to many

1252
01:18:39,039 --> 01:18:42,600
people who aren't even really Bigfoot enthusiasts who have claimed

1253
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,680
to have mind speak and then had an encounter.

1254
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,039
Speaker 4: So maybe some people are chosen, you know.

1255
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:55,079
Speaker 3: Fascinating. I've never I experienced mind speak or some kind

1256
01:18:55,119 --> 01:18:59,920
of weird telepathy message that came into my head. Well,

1257
01:19:00,039 --> 01:19:03,439
I was driving many many years ago, back in the eighties,

1258
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:08,680
in the mid eighties. I had just gotten into the television.

1259
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:14,359
I had a show on television and I had it

1260
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,479
was just like a year and a half earlier. That

1261
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,600
was my dream, and I already I had this show

1262
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,800
on the TV, and I had really good, talented people,

1263
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,880
and everything was going great, and I was thinking about that,

1264
01:19:25,159 --> 01:19:31,520
asking myself, this seemed to all work out so easy,

1265
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,000
you know, it just seemed to become so natural and

1266
01:19:35,039 --> 01:19:39,159
I heard a voice go, somebody, you'll understand, and it's

1267
01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:43,000
all like a man in my back seat. Literally I

1268
01:19:43,039 --> 01:19:45,359
could hear it, you know, like there was a dude.

1269
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,319
I spun around to look to see if there was

1270
01:19:48,359 --> 01:19:51,479
some dude sitting in my back seat. And I remember

1271
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,960
I was driving under the I hadn't been Avenue Bridge,

1272
01:19:54,399 --> 01:19:56,439
and I kept looking in the back seat because I

1273
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,039
was so weirded out by it. But I've never had

1274
01:19:59,079 --> 01:20:03,079
that happen ever again. So it was a one time event,

1275
01:20:03,279 --> 01:20:06,359
and so that's that's my mind. I guess it'd be

1276
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:09,720
what you'd go mine speak, right, it makes sense.

1277
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 4: We don't know what it was, but it's definitely mine speed.

1278
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:15,159
Speaker 3: I keep wondering, well, what was it? You know, I

1279
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,920
was it Monster Quest? Was that you know, because you know,

1280
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,720
in those days I had I had a it was

1281
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,319
like an outdoor show that I was doing. And that

1282
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,640
outdoor show is still still on the air, which is great.

1283
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,239
It's been going on fifty years now.

1284
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:36,159
Speaker 4: That Monster Quest episode alone, Doug that won in Canada,

1285
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,039
where I kept on attacking the cabin when they sell. Yes,

1286
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:43,560
that one that alone woke up so many people to

1287
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,680
getting interested in big big foottery and cripus Wallery.

1288
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,399
Speaker 10: In general, your show is probably the last I would say,

1289
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,880
real wholesome like about the subject matter out there.

1290
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 4: There's a lot of good ones, but they don't quite

1291
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:56,319
hit what you did.

1292
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's good. Well maybe that was what the

1293
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:03,960
voice meant, you know what I mean, or maybe it

1294
01:21:04,079 --> 01:21:06,520
was albs and I didn't really hear it, but I'll

1295
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,680
not tell you when you're looking in your back seat

1296
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,199
for a man. That's how clear I heard it. And

1297
01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:19,159
I've always asked. I mean, I've never forgotten that that

1298
01:21:19,359 --> 01:21:24,159
phrase that I heard. Someday you will understand. And now

1299
01:21:24,199 --> 01:21:26,880
I'm old, and I guess I'm kind of you know,

1300
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,600
you become at some point a washed up producer. Yeah,

1301
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,479
I'm still working on twenty episodes of Legimate Science too,

1302
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,640
still hoping for some big breakthroughs that can happen from that.

1303
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,239
But I don't know what else would it be. I

1304
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:48,199
guess cryptozoology. That was the message, and I do know

1305
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:53,479
that it monster class a legitimate science definitely had an

1306
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:58,640
effect on some people, a profound effect. But it's not

1307
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,720
something you think about when you're on it, right, No,

1308
01:22:02,279 --> 01:22:05,039
you just you just make you make the episode. You

1309
01:22:05,079 --> 01:22:09,279
do the best you can. And but lately I keep

1310
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,640
meeting new people that come to me and go that

1311
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,920
changed my life man, And I'm like, whoa, wow.

1312
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,319
Speaker 5: It's legend meed science.

1313
01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 3: Is what got me interested really for sure.

1314
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,199
Speaker 5: And that's it. That's the first time I thought of

1315
01:22:25,239 --> 01:22:31,279
it seriously, got really interested in the subject. Was was

1316
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,600
basically like legendmed science. So that the book in the

1317
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,159
documentary both Yeah, that.

1318
01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:39,199
Speaker 4: Was such a well rounded book, you know what I mean,

1319
01:22:39,279 --> 01:22:42,359
Like it didn't touch it's usually most books way heavy

1320
01:22:42,399 --> 01:22:44,840
on one side of things. That was so even keeled.

1321
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:45,359
I loved it.

1322
01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 5: You know, he's written by a scientist. I mean, he's

1323
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,399
a real scientist. Alber knew he was doing.

1324
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Legend meed Science of the the

1325
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,920
documentary that the book is based on.

1326
01:22:58,159 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 4: I have not what.

1327
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 3: Okay, we got it. I'm sure you can think of

1328
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,319
a player somewhere.

1329
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 4: Don't send me the great room.

1330
01:23:08,399 --> 01:23:12,359
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no. Will you make sure he gets

1331
01:23:12,399 --> 01:23:15,960
one free? Sure we'll get we'll get one out to you.

1332
01:23:16,359 --> 01:23:18,119
Speaker 4: Awesome, thank you. I appreciate that.

1333
01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get you legimed science. But that was that

1334
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,760
was the doc that ran on Discovery Channel for many, many,

1335
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:31,840
many years. For almost twenty years they ran that. And

1336
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,640
the book is based on uh, the dock, and then

1337
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,239
it goes deeper. Of course Jeff went deeper. But that

1338
01:23:38,399 --> 01:23:40,479
was the idea that he would write the book and

1339
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,920
I would do the doc and and then we would

1340
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,600
you know, try to market them together. But yeah, the

1341
01:23:50,079 --> 01:23:55,960
whole thing with Legended Science certainly was you know, one

1342
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,159
of the first scientific looks at you know, at the

1343
01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:03,039
at the pen or the mystery and Bill, what was

1344
01:24:03,079 --> 01:24:05,720
the first did you? I mean you saw a monster

1345
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:10,039
quest obviously at some point you saw the one episode.

1346
01:24:10,279 --> 01:24:13,399
Speaker 6: Oh, I saw all of them. That really changed my

1347
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,479
life too. I mean, it's just very well, I'll put

1348
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,920
together in always.

1349
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,239
Speaker 3: Well it's good, that's good. Well here we all are together.

1350
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:28,119
Now what can we what can we do to to

1351
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:30,600
inspire more people and more young people.

1352
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 10: Maybe that's the someday you will understand, Doug bringing all

1353
01:24:34,119 --> 01:24:36,880
bringing all of us together into the same you know,

1354
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,840
kind of creating a family unit in.

1355
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 4: This this field.

1356
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, that could have been that could have been the

1357
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,720
reason kind of bringing people together to the common things.

1358
01:24:48,079 --> 01:24:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, some of the new some of the new

1359
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,840
things that I wanted to ask for sure. You Scott,

1360
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,039
have you ever heard any kind of of a like

1361
01:25:01,119 --> 01:25:03,640
a hum or, a buzz Well, you've been out in

1362
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:12,079
the field. We've been collecting these recordings. Jeff can play one, sure,

1363
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,720
and every time we do a podcast and talk about it,

1364
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:20,279
more people come forward. I can tell by the look

1365
01:25:20,319 --> 01:25:23,159
on your face. Cut your drawn a blank, drawing a blank.

1366
01:25:23,279 --> 01:25:24,399
But Jeff gouladn't.

1367
01:25:24,039 --> 01:25:27,279
Speaker 5: Play it yet.

1368
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:32,399
Speaker 3: Thirty seconds. But it's it's a weird It's just a

1369
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,359
weird sound. It sounds like a hummingbird wings, but kind

1370
01:25:35,359 --> 01:25:40,079
of overdriven, almost like you're hearing infra sound on the

1371
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:43,720
stuff above twenty hurts and the stuff below it here

1372
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,239
goes yah.

1373
01:25:49,880 --> 01:26:00,279
Speaker 11: Yah, you're all played again. It's a crazy h.

1374
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:03,279
Speaker 3: M hm.

1375
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 6: M m.

1376
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1377
01:26:10,319 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's nuts. There's and there's there's more.

1378
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,199
Speaker 4: Sounds like a grunt to me. It almost sounds more

1379
01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:18,760
like a vocal a vocalization to me than like a.

1380
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 3: Well yeah yeah yeah, we're thinking that. You know, we've

1381
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,840
been Me and David Ellis have been calling it the

1382
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:31,199
humbuzz Per because we can't quite categorize it.

1383
01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 4: It's definitely changed that name.

1384
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,359
Speaker 10: You should matter of fact, you should put that on

1385
01:26:34,399 --> 01:26:35,720
T shirts.

1386
01:26:36,199 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 3: Humbuzz per exactly. Uh, and you know humans hum right,

1387
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,800
we hummed our kids when they're little. I don't know

1388
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,199
if you've got kids, Scott, but you know I didn't.

1389
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,000
You know mothers hummed to their children to put them

1390
01:26:51,039 --> 01:26:56,119
to sleep. Apparently they've come out with scientific papers. There

1391
01:26:56,159 --> 01:27:03,800
are uh proof that it helps heal you if you

1392
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:09,119
hum at boost your immune system. And so this has

1393
01:27:09,159 --> 01:27:12,880
been recorded by many researchers, but they always blew it off.

1394
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,359
Speaker 5: Well here, let me so that first one I played

1395
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:16,840
was from Texas.

1396
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was sexist from forty Yeah. Matt Langford right

1397
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,720
now is using the hum in his research.

1398
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 5: So just for context, this is from This is the

1399
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:30,439
Snail Grove.

1400
01:27:30,279 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 3: One grove, yep. I recorded this up and Snell.

1401
01:27:33,079 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 5: This is a loop, So this is a this this

1402
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,199
isn't it's a loop of the recording. But this is

1403
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,119
you know, forty years apart, you know, opposite sides of

1404
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:53,279
the continent. Yeah, it's crazy.

1405
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 4: Is that we singing?

1406
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it's kind of like a did you red? Like that? Yeah?

1407
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,920
Throat singing. Yeah, it's all of those qualities.

1408
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 4: Like there's there's definitely like double sets of vocal cords there.

1409
01:28:08,359 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 3: It seems like it doesn't it. Yeah, I kind of

1410
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:15,279
just get that sense. Obviously we haven't proven it, but

1411
01:28:17,399 --> 01:28:22,079
it's yeah, Carl's like, it's not a frog. U it said.

1412
01:28:22,119 --> 01:28:26,000
The audio is modulated between sixteen herts and eighteen point

1413
01:28:26,039 --> 01:28:29,159
five hurts. And then Carl had just bumped that one

1414
01:28:29,239 --> 01:28:32,920
up into the audible range. The first one that was

1415
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:38,039
Carl SUPs recording that was recorded down in at a

1416
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:42,439
ranch on a vhstape in the eighties, in the eighties.

1417
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:49,119
Anybody but we've recorded We've collected now eighty five recordings. Wow,

1418
01:28:50,279 --> 01:28:51,680
so we kind of think it's something.

1419
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 4: Do these hums always occur in like the same similar locations, Well.

1420
01:28:59,079 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: They occur in relationship to bigfoot research, Yeah, all from

1421
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:11,199
bigfoot research. Tristan Yelton was the first. He I'm not

1422
01:29:11,239 --> 01:29:14,720
sure he noticed the hum, but he played a recording

1423
01:29:15,079 --> 01:29:19,760
of what he believed would be a sasquatch eating food

1424
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,079
to him and his mother had left out with a

1425
01:29:22,119 --> 01:29:25,239
recorder and there was this that same kind of hum

1426
01:29:25,319 --> 01:29:29,399
in the background, and I went, whoa, whoa, whoa, back

1427
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,720
it up, you know, and I thought that's something, and

1428
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,439
you know, so I kind of made a big deal

1429
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,159
out of this tommying I heard.

1430
01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:40,159
Speaker 4: I wonder if they all vibrated that same hurts. Frequency

1431
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:41,079
don't know.

1432
01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: Obviously they're all going to have different body masks, you know,

1433
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,399
Well there's if there if there's eight vooters, there's got

1434
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:52,439
to be a one footer, you know. You know, they're

1435
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:57,359
all different body sizes, females and versus males. Why they

1436
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,239
do it, I don't know. But we recorded quite bit

1437
01:30:00,279 --> 01:30:04,359
of it up and snow a lots of it, and

1438
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,199
I can't, for the life of me, come up with

1439
01:30:06,279 --> 01:30:08,119
any other animal that would do that.

1440
01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:13,079
Speaker 4: I haven't had anything with the buzzes or the hums

1441
01:30:13,159 --> 01:30:15,520
or anything, but I have had it where like my.

1442
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 10: Ears will be like I'm up in a plane. The

1443
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,000
pressure okay, something happens.

1444
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:25,359
Speaker 3: Okay, like like the air pressure drops. Yes, I've experienced

1445
01:30:25,359 --> 01:30:27,000
it too, and I don't know what it is. It's

1446
01:30:27,039 --> 01:30:30,039
creepy as hell. It's like you almost hear the whistle,

1447
01:30:30,119 --> 01:30:35,920
you almost hear the you know, this kind of a

1448
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:41,720
it's like a dropping feeling, yeah, like you're dropping in altitude.

1449
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,079
Speaker 10: You get dizzy for a second on some occasions too,

1450
01:30:45,159 --> 01:30:46,720
it's almost like a quick case of vertigo.

1451
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,159
Speaker 3: It's weird, Bill, anything like that.

1452
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,520
Speaker 6: Never. I've heard of it from other reports, but no,

1453
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:54,560
not myself.

1454
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 3: Let's see here. Oh, I see, we've got trust in here,

1455
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:04,000
he says. The first initial humnoise on my recording really

1456
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:11,640
made me interested. I don't know if we have Tristan's hum.

1457
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:15,800
I have some videos of his. I don't know, Tristan,

1458
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,239
could you isolate that hum and mail it to Jeff

1459
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:27,800
p at Untold Radio AM dot com. Yeah, yeah, he'll

1460
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,199
put it, and he'll put the email if you want

1461
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:34,119
to send that one and play that. But anyhow, it's

1462
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,159
it's just one of those new things, and we don't

1463
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:42,399
get often new things in bigfoot research. And the newest

1464
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:47,359
things are fingerprints. By analyzing them, there should be DNA

1465
01:31:47,399 --> 01:31:52,640
in there, there should be chemical compounds in the surface

1466
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,960
skin lipids, because all great apes have a different chemical formula.

1467
01:31:58,119 --> 01:32:03,720
So that's kind of an new thing. And then, uh,

1468
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:09,319
the forensics of the fingerprints. You know, obviously we've all

1469
01:32:09,359 --> 01:32:12,399
seen them. I'm sure Bill, you've seen them, fingerprints on

1470
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,960
cars from expeditions and people. I mean you could just

1471
01:32:17,119 --> 01:32:20,960
type in bigfoot fingerprints and find hundreds of pictures online.

1472
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,119
It's the thing. But no, one's ever really analyzed them.

1473
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 4: And some of them are like this and you're just like.

1474
01:32:28,119 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, So I'm I'm working on analyzing all that

1475
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,640
stuff because I think that's a new category of study.

1476
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:44,399
That and obviously the different types of audios like the

1477
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:51,199
HUM I think are important DNA is, but yeah, the

1478
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:55,079
technology for E DNA, it's like, why do we why

1479
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:58,039
work on the DNA when we have blood? We have that,

1480
01:32:58,159 --> 01:33:01,000
we have so many things that we can test directly for.

1481
01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:06,560
The morphology doesn't fit. Like a hair very different than

1482
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:10,119
any other animal hair. They're very primate, very human like,

1483
01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:13,800
they're thinner, they have maybe less scales, but they have

1484
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,720
human scaling. Why do E DNA when we can examine

1485
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:23,239
a hair uh or or fingerprints, you know, the sloughed

1486
01:33:23,279 --> 01:33:27,840
off skin cells and fingerprints. So is great and I

1487
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,159
hope somebody works on it. I like the air filter

1488
01:33:30,279 --> 01:33:34,840
idea of you know, putting an air filter in an

1489
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,199
area and collecting all the body dust from all the

1490
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:42,279
different animals. Think about all the bigfoot skin cells are

1491
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:46,079
sloughed off and out in the or.

1492
01:33:46,079 --> 01:33:49,159
Speaker 10: It's a similar idea to use a mirror, like sticking

1493
01:33:49,159 --> 01:33:51,439
a mirror out in a known sight and then happen

1494
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,399
like the camera face the mirror.

1495
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:58,119
Speaker 3: Yes, that's been a that's been a thing because that's

1496
01:33:58,159 --> 01:34:02,920
how a lot of footage was gotten in Texas. And

1497
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,920
it was funny when we were talking about it. We

1498
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:10,119
had a guest on I think it was Mike Angular

1499
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:13,039
and he goes, well, that's weird because I had a dream.

1500
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:15,800
They had a bigfoot come to me in a dream

1501
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,520
and said, if you want to see us, you have

1502
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:23,319
to look at us through a mirror. Well that's kind

1503
01:34:23,319 --> 01:34:27,159
of interesting, Tommy. So one of the things, if Adam

1504
01:34:27,159 --> 01:34:29,760
would ever get his butt back from Colorado, We're gonna

1505
01:34:30,199 --> 01:34:34,640
draw up and three D print out these holders for

1506
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:40,119
mears for surveillance cameras, so they could be manufactured kind

1507
01:34:40,119 --> 01:34:44,560
of on a real easy level and built and deployed,

1508
01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:48,399
because I think, yeah, I think mirrors are Why not,

1509
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:57,239
what do we have to lose? Yeah, Matt goes surface

1510
01:34:57,279 --> 01:35:01,439
skin Olympic seebum. Yes, But Matt is using the hum

1511
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:05,279
in his research, and I don't know if he's having

1512
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:09,199
much luck yet. And I was supposed to edit some

1513
01:35:09,319 --> 01:35:12,079
more tapes that he was going to use and I

1514
01:35:12,159 --> 01:35:14,960
just didn't have time yet. Matt, So forgive me. I

1515
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,359
will get at it yet this week. You will get

1516
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:22,800
your tapes, so anyhow, but those are kind of the

1517
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:28,359
newer things, I guess, But to me still, you know,

1518
01:35:28,399 --> 01:35:32,359
you guys are on a journey to get your own info,

1519
01:35:33,119 --> 01:35:36,319
you know, to have your own sighting, and so you've

1520
01:35:36,359 --> 01:35:41,640
had a sighting. But one sighting is never enough. No,

1521
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,159
I've never seen one from the front. I've almost seen

1522
01:35:44,199 --> 01:35:46,479
them walking away from me or standing with their back

1523
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:50,000
turned to me. I've been I've been snuffed, you know,

1524
01:35:50,359 --> 01:35:54,399
just like I want to see the face because to me,

1525
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,119
without the face, it's not even hardly real.

1526
01:35:57,880 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 10: I think, like if you put a go pro camera

1527
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,560
on your that's a great way to get a face shot,

1528
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,800
because a lot of times they'll they'll.

1529
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,239
Speaker 4: Pop on a cover when we walk past.

1530
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 10: Sure, I mean Scott Carpenter pretty much affected that method

1531
01:36:10,039 --> 01:36:13,119
and caught so much great evidence during his time.

1532
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's still though a lot of blur, you

1533
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:23,119
know stuff. Nobody has really gotten the nat GEO. You know,

1534
01:36:23,239 --> 01:36:25,880
I hear great evidence, but man, nothing.

1535
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 10: Why though, I mean, do they do they vibrate at

1536
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,359
a different frequency than we do, so technology naturally is distorted.

1537
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, you got to remember Roger and Bob

1538
01:36:36,399 --> 01:36:42,920
they had a film camera spring Wind, not electrical, and

1539
01:36:43,119 --> 01:36:45,399
it was a film camera and it was instant on

1540
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:50,119
fixed focus in an iPhone. There's a joke compared to

1541
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:54,640
a sixteen millimeter camera. And yet you can still buy

1542
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:58,439
film cameras. You can still get the film stock and

1543
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:05,039
Walmart will still develop. That's sixteen millimeters. Aren't that expensive?

1544
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:07,680
I've got like, oh, I bet I've got one hundred

1545
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:11,279
and twenty hundred and fifty of them. Then I was

1546
01:37:11,359 --> 01:37:14,119
just buying them up because I was a collector of

1547
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:18,439
film film. You know, I started buying stuff just for

1548
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,079
a collection because it was I could get it for

1549
01:37:21,159 --> 01:37:23,880
dirt cheap. I could get it for five bucks, ten bucks.

1550
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:27,000
You know, all these film cameras because nobody wanted them.

1551
01:37:27,039 --> 01:37:30,319
They didn't work, most of More Frozen, and I would,

1552
01:37:30,399 --> 01:37:33,840
you know, restore them. And so that would restore them

1553
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,199
and put them on the tub. I don't know what

1554
01:37:36,199 --> 01:37:38,520
I'm going to do with them all, but you could

1555
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:44,720
still use it as a research tool. Why not? What

1556
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:45,840
do you got there? Job?

1557
01:37:46,199 --> 01:37:48,119
Speaker 5: This is this is a this is a three times

1558
01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:51,680
loop that David made of Tristan's hut.

1559
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 3: Oh Okay, this is this is what started at all. Yep,

1560
01:37:55,039 --> 01:38:14,840
this is yep Tristan stuff. You're that low frequency right here,

1561
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:16,159
right here fw frequence.

1562
01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:26,119
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that is something else, isn't it.

1563
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:27,159
Speaker 3: Man?

1564
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,520
Speaker 10: I wonder if I could run that through a translator,

1565
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:30,960
if any of it would be picked up in any

1566
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,960
known language or pick up any like similarities.

1567
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,199
Speaker 3: That's all like something Richard Drivers would say.

1568
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,119
Speaker 4: Well, there's that second compliments.

1569
01:38:41,279 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 3: I oh my god, you need to rent Jaws and

1570
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:47,239
watch it.

1571
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 5: I just watched a couple of weeks ago. What a

1572
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:52,319
great movie.

1573
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,239
Speaker 3: And it's silly like K doesn't necessarily mean better, and

1574
01:38:56,359 --> 01:39:02,520
no it doesn't because you know, one the lenses they

1575
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,439
put on these iPhones are great, but they're tiny, so

1576
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,479
they're made for up close work. They're not made for

1577
01:39:09,039 --> 01:39:13,720
thirty forty feet away. There's just a dot, there's there's

1578
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:17,199
not enough light gathering. You know, everything looks very disappointing

1579
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:21,960
on a cell phone. And I'm not really familiar, i

1580
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,960
should say, with the brand newest you know, iPhone fifty

1581
01:39:26,039 --> 01:39:30,000
nine that they have out or you know, the newest Android.

1582
01:39:30,039 --> 01:39:32,960
I'm not necessarily familiar with all those, but most of

1583
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:37,720
those lenses are three point six millimeter. They're tiny, you know,

1584
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,520
compared to a fifty millimeter lens on a film camera.

1585
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:47,039
It's a big difference. So I definitely suggest people get

1586
01:39:47,039 --> 01:39:50,199
a film camera. In fact, one of the camera traps

1587
01:39:50,199 --> 01:39:56,039
that we used to sell was sixteen milimeter camera with

1588
01:39:56,079 --> 01:40:01,840
a that Eric turns and is find a trigger for me,

1589
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,039
where it was like a piece of monofilament line you

1590
01:40:06,119 --> 01:40:08,920
ran out and it pulled a clip out if something

1591
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:13,479
tripped and filmed with the sixteen millimeter film camera. And

1592
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,159
we've had that deployed up a snow. I haven't gotten

1593
01:40:16,199 --> 01:40:22,680
anything yet, but that's that's the camera that Patterson used there. Yeah,

1594
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:28,239
millimeter What was the main lens on the turret? What

1595
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:32,680
I say, don't recall. It looks like thirty millimeter Maybe

1596
01:40:33,239 --> 01:40:36,079
I can't recall, but it's ten times better than a

1597
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:43,760
three point six twenty five he used twenty five? Well,

1598
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:45,199
that's still a lot.

1599
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 5: And that camera has you can swap different lenses in it.

1600
01:40:48,039 --> 01:40:51,720
But it's believed that he used the twenty five millimeter.

1601
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good idea. Take the old equipment out

1602
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:56,600
for a new research.

1603
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 3: Why not because it's instant on so you can just

1604
01:41:02,119 --> 01:41:06,039
it's going I see a bigfoot and I'm walking with

1605
01:41:06,159 --> 01:41:09,399
my phone. I'm gonna get my phone out start, you know,

1606
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,520
scrolling through to get to the phone thing and or

1607
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,199
the video setting and hit that and then I got

1608
01:41:15,239 --> 01:41:20,319
a pick video. By then it's gone. But an instant

1609
01:41:20,359 --> 01:41:25,079
on film, camera pull, pull the trigger, you're shooting, and

1610
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,840
Roger had practiced, you know. And of course now people

1611
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:29,640
are calling that fake.

1612
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:35,239
Speaker 10: I'm like, okay, somebody every few years the.

1613
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:43,079
Speaker 3: Video, yeah, because you know, the only way you're gonna

1614
01:41:43,079 --> 01:41:46,520
prove the Patterson's fake is to duplicate it, even with

1615
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:52,039
modern materials. Do that show me and I'd consider it.

1616
01:41:52,119 --> 01:41:56,439
But even with modern materials, they can't duplicate it. You know,

1617
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,560
if you see a real animal, right, you see a

1618
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,720
real bit in a movie, you know it's a real bear.

1619
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:07,279
You see a cgi bear in a movie like the

1620
01:42:07,319 --> 01:42:12,159
Revenant where the bear, this animated bear is attacking DiCaprio

1621
01:42:12,319 --> 01:42:15,159
in this movie, if you and you know instantly it's

1622
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:19,920
a it's animated. And if it's a guy in a

1623
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,920
bear costume, you know for sure you cannot fake reality.

1624
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,840
You can't fake a you cannot fake a real tire.

1625
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,680
Yet you can say you can, but you know the

1626
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,840
AI you can't. There's still is subtle difference as you

1627
01:42:35,079 --> 01:42:39,439
eye spots it. But when you see the Patterson Gimlan film,

1628
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,159
the brain instantly, within a split second, goes it's a

1629
01:42:43,199 --> 01:42:43,920
real animal.

1630
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 10: Even though it's the seat, it's the mid tarcel break,

1631
01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:51,680
and you cannot mimic that kind of perfection with no arts,

1632
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,439
you know what I mean, nobody, Most people don't have

1633
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,239
that kind of size to even become close to Patty,

1634
01:42:57,279 --> 01:42:58,159
to even pull that off.

1635
01:42:58,279 --> 01:43:02,119
Speaker 3: Well, it's you get to realize, though, Scott, it's everything.

1636
01:43:02,399 --> 01:43:05,359
It's the hair, It's the way the light hits the hair.

1637
01:43:05,399 --> 01:43:09,600
It's the muscles, it's the stride, it's the weight you

1638
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,000
know when it when it steps down in the and

1639
01:43:12,079 --> 01:43:19,880
it vibrates. It's everything. It's millions of data points, maybe

1640
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,520
trillions of data points that are brain picks up that goes.

1641
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 10: People say there's more than one specimen in the Patti

1642
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,920
film too, Well, you talk about that. I hear that

1643
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,079
talked about a little bit. I'm like, I don't need it,

1644
01:43:32,119 --> 01:43:33,439
but it's still pretty cool, you know.

1645
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:39,039
Speaker 3: I think I think Patty was protecting or leading away

1646
01:43:39,279 --> 01:43:42,920
those guys from a family or or a juvenile. I

1647
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,720
think that's a very real possibility. Just like in the

1648
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:51,039
Freeman footage. I think that they'll show themselves out in

1649
01:43:51,039 --> 01:43:54,159
the open and it's like, hey, follow me. They'll do

1650
01:43:54,239 --> 01:43:57,800
that to protect a young one. I don't think they

1651
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,520
step out into the open like that in front of

1652
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:04,680
two people and then instead of just going into the

1653
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:09,079
forest to kind of lead them away. So I don't know,

1654
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,880
but generally, when you see a real animal, it's a

1655
01:44:12,079 --> 01:44:15,399
it's a trillion points of data that your brain goes.

1656
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:20,359
It's real. So I mean, don't you don't you guys

1657
01:44:20,399 --> 01:44:23,439
agree when you you look at a bear video, you

1658
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,319
know it's a live bear, it's not a guy in

1659
01:44:25,359 --> 01:44:29,199
a bear suit. And you could try to pinpoint why,

1660
01:44:29,399 --> 01:44:33,079
but you don't need to explain it. Your brain is noah.

1661
01:44:35,199 --> 01:44:40,399
So anyhow, oh man, where where should we take this conversation?

1662
01:44:40,399 --> 01:44:42,279
What time is it? Now? We got plenty of time.

1663
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,840
Where should we take this conversation? What would you like

1664
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:46,359
to talk about? Scott and Bilton?

1665
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,359
Speaker 10: Honestly, I'd like Doug just personally. I'd like to know

1666
01:44:50,399 --> 01:44:52,119
what you think Bigfoot is.

1667
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 4: Oh crap, Oh did I open up a can of

1668
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:56,359
worms on this?

1669
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,319
Speaker 3: Not at all. I don't know. That's the old crap.

1670
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:03,720
I don't oh. I've been doing research since since the

1671
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:09,279
nineties on this topic in a very very heavy way,

1672
01:45:09,319 --> 01:45:13,159
in a very full time way, and I don't have

1673
01:45:13,279 --> 01:45:16,479
I have less answers now than I did back then.

1674
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,800
Back then it was more pure, you know. It's just

1675
01:45:20,359 --> 01:45:24,319
a creature that lived in the forest, and there weren't

1676
01:45:24,399 --> 01:45:27,319
many of them. They were rare. And that was my

1677
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:32,079
conclusion back in like nineteen ninety one, That's what I thought.

1678
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:39,399
I had an experience many years earlier, earlier with audio

1679
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:43,720
and a smell. I was on a deer stand and

1680
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,439
I heard before the sun came up, or right as

1681
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:51,039
it was coming up, I heard chest beating and it

1682
01:45:51,159 --> 01:45:55,239
was definitely from a big animal. And it wasn't grouse.

1683
01:45:55,319 --> 01:45:58,520
You know, I was a grouse hunter. It wasn't grouse drumming,

1684
01:45:59,079 --> 01:46:02,199
grouse drumming. I was like always one pound. This sounded

1685
01:46:02,279 --> 01:46:05,039
like it weighed a thousand pounds. And then I got

1686
01:46:05,119 --> 01:46:09,000
hit with a stink. Great, you know, I'm a little

1687
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:13,000
freaked out. I don't know what it is. And then

1688
01:46:13,039 --> 01:46:16,239
when we went all back to camp to meet at

1689
01:46:16,279 --> 01:46:20,039
for noon for lunch, everybody in the party had the

1690
01:46:20,159 --> 01:46:25,520
same experience. This thing had gone to each deerstand quarter

1691
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:27,840
mile or a half mile away from each other and

1692
01:46:28,039 --> 01:46:35,000
put on this show of chest beating and stinking them out. Wow. Yeah,

1693
01:46:35,279 --> 01:46:37,960
and that was really interesting. And then I put it

1694
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,439
out of my head. That was the end of it.

1695
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,600
Nothing else happened. It was one time when I was

1696
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,880
a kid, I heard a scream in the woods that

1697
01:46:46,039 --> 01:46:49,399
was very very loud. I suppose it could have been

1698
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:53,880
a fox maybe, but it sounded like a thousand pound fox.

1699
01:46:55,319 --> 01:46:56,960
And that was kind of hit until I was up

1700
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,239
in the Arctic and found footprints. They were crystal clear,

1701
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:06,359
you know, with beautiful beach sand, wet damp beach sand,

1702
01:47:06,399 --> 01:47:09,319
and then up into the tundra and the pee gravel.

1703
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,199
And then when the footprint was in front of a

1704
01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:16,399
tree trunk, and then there was another footprint directly behind

1705
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:19,640
that tree trunk, and I knew that it had stepped

1706
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:24,840
over that tree, over the top of the tree, you know, sapling.

1707
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:29,199
But up there they're stunted. That might have been one

1708
01:47:29,279 --> 01:47:32,359
hundred year old tree, but it was very very stunted

1709
01:47:32,399 --> 01:47:36,479
and maybe only had like a three inch diameter to

1710
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,960
the trunk, but it was still, you know, six foot tall,

1711
01:47:40,079 --> 01:47:43,560
the tree seven foot and it stepped over the tree

1712
01:47:45,359 --> 01:47:47,359
the only way you could put a footprint behind it

1713
01:47:47,399 --> 01:47:50,239
and exactly one exactly in a straight line in front

1714
01:47:50,279 --> 01:47:54,079
of it. And that's when like the guy that was

1715
01:47:54,279 --> 01:47:56,920
right up my side goes, we need to leave now

1716
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,399
because he hit him too, and he's like, holy crap.

1717
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:05,840
So that was my that was my thing. I couldn't

1718
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,199
shake right because there were too many footprints all the

1719
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:11,279
way you could. And then we went out beyond that

1720
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,279
standard trees and they're off in the horizon. You could

1721
01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:19,760
see hundreds and hundreds of footprints going off into the tundra.

1722
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,199
Though it was definitely real.

1723
01:48:24,079 --> 01:48:26,520
Speaker 5: It's interesting though, I'm I'm less certain now than I

1724
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:30,159
used to be as well. I the longest time I was,

1725
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:35,920
I was really committed to the gigantipithecus theory. Now I'm like,

1726
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:38,920
it doesn't explain.

1727
01:48:39,039 --> 01:48:42,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just have more choices nowadays, Right, nobody talks

1728
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:43,600
a reasonable one, right.

1729
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:47,520
Speaker 5: One of there's there's others that are not that are

1730
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:51,000
just so plausible that one's plausible. Yeah, I'm kind of

1731
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:56,199
I've grown to believe that they're way closer to humans

1732
01:48:56,199 --> 01:48:59,760
than that I think they're so close to human. They're

1733
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:03,920
just a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of percentage from us.

1734
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:06,399
They're almost human.

1735
01:49:07,119 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 3: I've had so many DNA tests done and they come

1736
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:13,720
back and they're always human contamination, human Contamn. If I

1737
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,079
hear that one more time. I did a show with

1738
01:49:17,239 --> 01:49:20,800
Scott Walter and we did a I gave him a

1739
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:25,119
hair from the Freeman creature that Paul Freeman had collected,

1740
01:49:25,239 --> 01:49:28,159
and they tested that and he came back kind of like,

1741
01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:30,920
oh yeah, I got Doug. You know, this is a

1742
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,119
gotcha moment because it's going to be human. And Scott

1743
01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:37,840
reads the paper on you know, the the DNA report

1744
01:49:38,079 --> 01:49:42,479
in front of you know, all the world audience, and

1745
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,680
he's like, well, I got bad news. That's just a

1746
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:48,079
human hair. And I'm like, well, I expected it to

1747
01:49:48,119 --> 01:49:51,239
come back human. And it wasn't a human hair. It

1748
01:49:51,239 --> 01:49:54,760
we've never been cut, had no madala in it, it

1749
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:58,960
had a tapered worn end, it had human scaling. It

1750
01:49:59,079 --> 01:50:05,039
certainly was not anything other than from a primate. And

1751
01:50:05,119 --> 01:50:07,640
I expected it to come back human because how deep

1752
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:10,119
did they go with that DNA test? But he thought

1753
01:50:10,119 --> 01:50:12,439
it was a big gotcha and I was happy. I

1754
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,640
was like, that's exactly what I expected it would come

1755
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,239
back as well.

1756
01:50:17,279 --> 01:50:20,359
Speaker 5: Just think of the range of known humans. I mean,

1757
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,039
there's people that if you just just normal every day

1758
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,680
modern human beings, you see him side by side, it's

1759
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,119
hard to believe in the same species.

1760
01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, you.

1761
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 5: Know what I mean. So I just I just think

1762
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,399
it's a little bit further out on the spectrum.

1763
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:42,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, we it's it's hard to believe that a

1764
01:50:42,199 --> 01:50:47,359
guy who's one of these huge basketball players, I can't

1765
01:50:47,399 --> 01:50:53,239
think Michael Jordan or whoever. Then compare that to an

1766
01:50:53,279 --> 01:50:58,520
actor who maybe experienced dwarphism. You know, it's like that's

1767
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:02,079
night and day. Yeah, radically different, and we're still the

1768
01:51:02,079 --> 01:51:03,600
same species. So yeah, we are.

1769
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,279
Speaker 5: That's kind of that's my most current thinking is that

1770
01:51:06,319 --> 01:51:09,000
it's just a little bit further out on the spectrum.

1771
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,359
Speaker 3: No, Matt, he said, we have a ton of unverified crap.

1772
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,119
Speaker 5: Yes, we do unverified.

1773
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 3: Yes, this is all unverified. Every one of our theories

1774
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,199
is unverified. Yep.

1775
01:51:21,319 --> 01:51:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, we uh were humble. We know we know that

1776
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:24,079
we don't know.

1777
01:51:27,399 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 3: Oh somebody you would say, Dane goes leave Hell, no

1778
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,000
w test here when we have blood, Yes, and we do.

1779
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:43,479
We've got blood samples that were collected very very fresh, frozen,

1780
01:51:44,039 --> 01:51:47,279
collected properly, and we're waiting for test back on that.

1781
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:50,800
And I have a feeling that if they don't go

1782
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,520
real deep, it's you're gonna go, oh, it's human blood.

1783
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:58,439
Well sure, but they were found in seventeen inch footprints

1784
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:02,279
on the left foot. It's probably not a human, you

1785
01:52:02,319 --> 01:52:02,840
know what I mean?

1786
01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:06,199
Speaker 4: And those are what eight inches wide?

1787
01:52:06,319 --> 01:52:09,359
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's just yeah, you can you can

1788
01:52:09,399 --> 01:52:12,880
say it's human all day long, but that's gonna then

1789
01:52:13,319 --> 01:52:15,720
warrant it to go very deep. We need to go

1790
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,600
very deep with the the DNA to try to get

1791
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:22,079
the full genome and see what stands out. I mean,

1792
01:52:22,119 --> 01:52:26,439
it might be just just what what if there's no

1793
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:34,560
differences because you take somebody with it, like hypertricknosis isn't

1794
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:38,119
what's it called? You know, the disease that you get

1795
01:52:38,199 --> 01:52:41,920
covered with hair, hyper trick tricknosis?

1796
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:43,319
Speaker 4: I think that's that's what it is.

1797
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,560
Speaker 3: I think. So anyhow, there's no DNA difference. I did

1798
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:52,039
a DNA test on those guys and there's none. Zero.

1799
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 10: I get here, here's my thing. Take a bigfoot. What

1800
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,800
happens when you remove the hair. You have a primitive human.

1801
01:53:00,039 --> 01:53:02,279
We're looking at cro Magnan's, We're looking at you know,

1802
01:53:02,359 --> 01:53:03,239
Dina Sovin's.

1803
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 3: That guy's gonna that guy's gonna be able to walk

1804
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,920
into any store and just be accepted as a big dude.

1805
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,359
He might look Native American, he might look you know

1806
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,680
what I mean, he might have a little bit of

1807
01:53:18,079 --> 01:53:22,479
my cheekbones. But other than that, I don't think anybody

1808
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:25,479
would stare even so like, oh that was a big guy.

1809
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,640
Speaker 10: That's why I thought, maybe the hair is an environmental adaptation,

1810
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,439
like you know, over the years to adapt to the

1811
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:31,439
climate change.

1812
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:37,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that's reasonable, but just an environmental change?

1813
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely, It's just fascinating. The whole subject is

1814
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:44,399
just fascinating.

1815
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 3: And I feel, look at Jeff, he's changing to his environment.

1816
01:53:49,119 --> 01:53:53,680
He's growing a beard. Yeah, there he goes. But no,

1817
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,359
he easily could be that. I mean, it wouldn't take

1818
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,439
I don't think evolution takes that long to make those

1819
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,319
kind of little changes. You know.

1820
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:07,119
Speaker 5: That adaptation, adaptation can take place in one generation.

1821
01:54:07,239 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 3: I mean there's humans that are really hairy, Like there's

1822
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:14,920
regular dudes that don't even have hypertricknolysis or whatever the

1823
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,600
hell that diseases I can't even think of it. That

1824
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,640
are just really hairy. You know, we've all seen them

1825
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:22,159
at the beach going, what the hell.

1826
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,399
Speaker 4: What the what's the what is the razor budget in

1827
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:28,079
that household?

1828
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:38,039
Speaker 3: You know exactly, And I don't hyper hyper tricks. There

1829
01:54:38,119 --> 01:54:44,119
we go, Oh yeah, yeah, tricknosis. Sorry, I haven't thought

1830
01:54:44,119 --> 01:54:47,760
about that. But we did a Monster Quest episode, and

1831
01:54:49,119 --> 01:54:51,760
you know, I was curious that. I was really excited

1832
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:55,119
about it because I wanted to do strength tests for

1833
01:54:55,199 --> 01:54:59,399
their weight because they were amazing gymnasts and it was

1834
01:54:59,479 --> 01:55:06,760
almost like a recidivism the gene that makes them here.

1835
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:12,039
He could be not a disease, but more of a disease,

1836
01:55:12,079 --> 01:55:15,359
a gene that was just kind of dormant. Just like

1837
01:55:15,399 --> 01:55:17,800
a lot of humans are born every year with tales.

1838
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:20,880
You don't hear about it, but there's a lot of

1839
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:27,399
people born with tails. Did you know that, Scott? Look

1840
01:55:27,439 --> 01:55:29,600
it up. I think it's like one out of ten

1841
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:31,119
thousand births. I have a tail.

1842
01:55:31,399 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 4: I would have a much better wardrobe if I had

1843
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:34,039
a tail.

1844
01:55:34,479 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Well you don't have a tail.

1845
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:40,199
Speaker 4: Deal, he's not talking. I can tell he's not talking.

1846
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:43,279
Speaker 3: He's laughing because he's like, maybe I have a tail. No,

1847
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:52,560
you don't have a tail, Bill any I just it's

1848
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,119
one of those It's one of those genes that maybe

1849
01:55:56,319 --> 01:56:01,199
just even autism could be just a cert Bible gene.

1850
01:56:02,439 --> 01:56:06,239
Speaker 4: Speaking of autism, I had a clip somebody had uploaded

1851
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,359
to the Untold Radio network where I talked about my

1852
01:56:10,439 --> 01:56:14,199
theories of sasquatch possibly having autistic or being on the

1853
01:56:14,239 --> 01:56:18,039
spectrum traits. And that's how I found your show. And

1854
01:56:18,439 --> 01:56:19,439
that thing got like one.

1855
01:56:19,399 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 10: Hundred and ninety six thousand views just sharing that, and

1856
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,640
I was like, we need to talk to Doug.

1857
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 4: This is pretty cool.

1858
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've witnessed it myself, autistic behavior. The

1859
01:56:33,279 --> 01:56:37,000
first time I really really witnessed it was at a

1860
01:56:37,079 --> 01:56:41,960
cabin way off the beaten path. It was uh about

1861
01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:45,560
eleven miles down a logging road and it was bright

1862
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:49,800
bordered on the Bounty Waters Canoe area, right, and so

1863
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:53,800
we rented it and middle of the night, I hear

1864
01:56:54,319 --> 01:56:57,159
the lid of the glass. There was a recycling bin,

1865
01:56:57,239 --> 01:56:59,880
one for tint cans and one for glass on the

1866
01:57:00,119 --> 01:57:05,600
orch and I hear the lid the you have the

1867
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:08,079
lid just pop open its spring do you have to

1868
01:57:08,119 --> 01:57:12,800
push down? It pops open over and over and over again,

1869
01:57:13,479 --> 01:57:16,000
and then it goes over and opens the lid on

1870
01:57:16,239 --> 01:57:19,600
the can one with the aluminum cans in it, over

1871
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:23,880
and over like we're talking ten times on both and

1872
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,640
then walked down played with the velcrow on a dodger

1873
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:32,840
ram on the velcro tanu cover, and then walked back

1874
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,479
up and did the glass one again, and did the

1875
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:40,199
other one over and over and over, and that preluded

1876
01:57:40,279 --> 01:57:43,399
the wall attack that I mentioned. That's fell like a

1877
01:57:43,439 --> 01:57:47,720
semi truck hit it, and I regretted. Of course, my daughter,

1878
01:57:48,199 --> 01:57:52,239
bless her heart, had made me tape up a blanket

1879
01:57:52,319 --> 01:57:56,760
with duct tape, with great duct tape the blanket over

1880
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,399
this open window that had no shade, because you know,

1881
01:57:59,399 --> 01:58:01,840
there's nobody lives out there. It's in the middle of

1882
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,840
the forest, so why would you need curtains. Well, she

1883
01:58:05,079 --> 01:58:09,680
wanted curtains because we had heard a bigfoot scream that

1884
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:14,520
afternoon while we were unpacking into the into the bringing

1885
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:18,760
our gear into the cabin. We all heard this massive

1886
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:24,960
scream right by us. And so she's like, Dad, she's

1887
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,920
see that window. You're gonna put a blanket over that window,

1888
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:31,680
and I'm like, okay, yeah, we'll find one, and.

1889
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 4: You can't gonna stop it from coming in.

1890
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 3: Well, but she didn't want to see. She didn't want

1891
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:40,000
to see, and that thing was right by that window

1892
01:58:40,159 --> 01:58:43,279
numerous times when it was doing those things. And so

1893
01:58:43,399 --> 01:58:46,880
I'm like, okay, do I peel that tape away? And

1894
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,000
and you know, I got my daughter with me and

1895
01:58:49,159 --> 01:58:51,680
scare this thing and then it puts its hand through

1896
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:55,119
the window like in the legend of Boggy Creek? Or

1897
01:58:55,159 --> 01:58:58,479
do I just let sleeping dogs lie and hope it'll

1898
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:02,479
go away? And so I didn't do anything. I didn't look.

1899
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:06,000
I've missed numerous opportunities. Why know, I've had a big

1900
01:59:06,079 --> 01:59:09,279
foot right next to me out a window and just

1901
01:59:09,359 --> 01:59:13,520
either too afraid to look or or too smart to look.

1902
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,319
One of the two. Bell Okay, So Belle, let me

1903
01:59:18,359 --> 01:59:20,960
throw this at you. You're in a cabin. You know

1904
01:59:21,039 --> 01:59:24,399
there's a bigfoot out there. There's a curtain. You can

1905
01:59:24,479 --> 01:59:27,600
just pull it open and you know it's right there.

1906
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:29,520
Are you doing it or are you just going to

1907
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,119
let it? Yes? Or no?

1908
01:59:31,239 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 4: For sure?

1909
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:33,239
Speaker 6: I'm looking at it for sure?

1910
01:59:33,359 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

1911
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, I couldn't live with myself that well.

1912
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,239
Speaker 3: See, I can't live with myself. That's why I need

1913
01:59:39,279 --> 01:59:44,079
to go see a psychiatrist now, because I'm fast, have two, three,

1914
01:59:44,199 --> 01:59:48,640
four opportunities to just open the window and look. But

1915
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,279
when you're but when you're in that situation, you're also thinking, well,

1916
01:59:52,319 --> 01:59:56,520
if I move the curtain, what if it sees that

1917
01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:02,760
and then it gets po Yeah, I mean.

1918
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,159
Speaker 10: It's used to that pattern. And now suddenly and now

1919
02:00:05,199 --> 02:00:06,560
I can't see in the window.

1920
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:08,960
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, I look in them more

1921
02:00:09,079 --> 02:00:11,720
face to face. Do you think that's gonna go over? Well?

1922
02:00:13,239 --> 02:00:15,560
In face to face with a with a bigfoot like

1923
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:16,760
two inches away from.

1924
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:20,199
Speaker 4: Each other, maybe telling me sounds like Richard Dreyfus.

1925
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:21,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I could do that and I would sue them.

1926
02:00:23,239 --> 02:00:27,439
Oh my god. Not only do you sound like Richard,

1927
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:29,199
you're I think you act like him.

1928
02:00:29,239 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 4: Dude, Scott, we can do a range of meeting. I

1929
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:37,319
must confirm, yes, is he still around? I think so.

1930
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:37,760
I don't.

1931
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:41,000
Speaker 10: Obviously he's not his mainstream anymore, but he's still here.

1932
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:41,239
Speaker 6: He is.

1933
02:00:41,359 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'll get you his number. You can call him.

1934
02:00:47,119 --> 02:00:51,439
Speaker 4: Now we're talking both encounters of the oh fifth kind.

1935
02:00:52,159 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, am I the only one in? Okay? In chat?

1936
02:00:56,640 --> 02:01:01,920
Do you think Scott sounds like Richard when he was young? Yes?

1937
02:01:02,039 --> 02:01:07,840
Or no? To say yes, Jeff, do you think he does?

1938
02:01:08,159 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 5: Yeah? I didn't until you said something, but yeah, I

1939
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:10,840
can hear that for sure.

1940
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:17,079
Speaker 4: I didn't until you you brought it to my attention.

1941
02:01:17,359 --> 02:01:22,439
Speaker 3: Like, okay, mister Robbinson says, yes, we got one. Yes,

1942
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:28,520
it's too no, so there you go. Oh, another one, yes,

1943
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:35,760
another one, yes, confirmation he is Richard in disguised. Yes,

1944
02:01:38,319 --> 02:01:39,960
there you go.

1945
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:41,439
Speaker 4: Good lord, it's unanimous.

1946
02:01:42,119 --> 02:01:44,319
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's I think a lot more people with

1947
02:01:44,479 --> 02:01:48,199
the other still coming in. Another one from Kenny.

1948
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 4: Yes, I was taking more of Burt Reynolds, but that's fine.

1949
02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 3: No, No, it's not Burt, it's Richard.

1950
02:01:57,079 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 4: Even better.

1951
02:02:01,199 --> 02:02:04,359
Speaker 3: No, I'd say it's like exact. It's kind of freaky,

1952
02:02:04,399 --> 02:02:05,880
actually a freaking me out.

1953
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:08,279
Speaker 4: Yes, whole other episode on that.

1954
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 3: Bruce Brown says, yes, he is a.

1955
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:16,640
Speaker 4: Son that the man that myth, the legend, the.

1956
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:20,079
Speaker 3: Coolest Bigfoot story from Michigan. I'm not sure what he means.

1957
02:02:20,199 --> 02:02:22,399
Is there a cool the coolest big Oh he wants

1958
02:02:22,439 --> 02:02:27,840
to hear the coolest bigfoot story from Michigan, Scott.

1959
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:28,600
Speaker 4: Like the personal, like a personal line.

1960
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,279
Speaker 3: No, it could be just one you've heard.

1961
02:02:31,279 --> 02:02:35,039
Speaker 10: The best bigfoot one that I heard in Michigan was

1962
02:02:35,279 --> 02:02:37,760
it flipping someone's canoe on the Assable River back in

1963
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:38,479
the seventies.

1964
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:41,279
Speaker 4: This wasn't one that was documented in the BFRO.

1965
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 10: This is where you're going to the local coffee shop

1966
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,560
and the old timers that have lived there forever talk

1967
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,279
about it that sort of thing.

1968
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 4: And he had just said that there was a bunch.

1969
02:02:50,399 --> 02:02:52,600
Speaker 10: Of drunk kids or something going through an area where

1970
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:56,399
Sasquatch are known do an habit, and the Tasquatch shouldn't

1971
02:02:56,439 --> 02:02:59,399
like it, and it got in the water and they heard.

1972
02:02:59,199 --> 02:03:01,000
Speaker 4: Something swim up by I did when they just saw like.

1973
02:03:01,039 --> 02:03:04,880
Speaker 10: These hairy arms just push the canoe over, and I'm like,

1974
02:03:05,319 --> 02:03:07,720
I could see it happening. Like I said, that's just

1975
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:09,279
kind of like one of those stories, ones that the

1976
02:03:09,279 --> 02:03:12,920
old timers will talk about. But yes, myle Michigan is

1977
02:03:13,119 --> 02:03:15,840
very much a Sasquatch hotspot, so nothing like that would

1978
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,720
surprise me. There's a lot of untamed backwaters and stuff

1979
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:19,119
out there.

1980
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,199
Speaker 3: That was kind of a short story Scott.

1981
02:03:24,199 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 4: That's all. That's all I heard.

1982
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:29,239
Speaker 6: You wonder why they do that though? Are they making

1983
02:03:29,239 --> 02:03:30,960
too much noise drinking beer?

1984
02:03:31,239 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 4: You know, That's what I'm guessing.

1985
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,279
Speaker 10: I mean, because the Sado River in the in the

1986
02:03:38,319 --> 02:03:43,279
summertime is a massive tourist attraction for northern Michigan. So

1987
02:03:43,439 --> 02:03:45,520
naturally you're gonna get your people who want to relax

1988
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:47,520
and just tube on the river, and you're gonna get

1989
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:49,720
your people that want to party on and I think

1990
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:51,880
that it even gets to be too much for the animals,

1991
02:03:53,159 --> 02:03:55,920
you know, Sasquatch especially, you know, the alpha males out

1992
02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:58,840
there are gonna definitely get upset at something like that.

1993
02:04:00,359 --> 02:04:08,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, any other stories you've heard you guys, Bill, do

1994
02:04:08,119 --> 02:04:11,119
you have a story you want to a favorite bigfoot

1995
02:04:11,199 --> 02:04:14,920
encounter story? Doesn't that have to be yours? Just when

1996
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:16,880
you've heard that sticks with you and haunt you.

1997
02:04:18,239 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 6: It's got to be the one over by Holy Hill

1998
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:24,079
there and the dog man encounter there. Those are the

1999
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,119
two big ones I've heard so many, I just can't

2000
02:04:27,159 --> 02:04:30,439
think of any other ones. Usually when I'm listening to

2001
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:33,840
these reports on YouTube or whatever, very seldom do I

2002
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:35,119
hear any from Wisconsin.

2003
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:40,760
Speaker 5: So we've heard quite a few stories from Wisconsin.

2004
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:44,920
Speaker 4: Wisconsin's got the Beast of Ray Road. They got a

2005
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:45,840
big one out there.

2006
02:04:46,199 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2007
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:50,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's about fifty miles from this church and kind

2008
02:04:50,199 --> 02:04:54,359
of halfway in the middle between where I live. But

2009
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:58,319
I know I used to drive down to Oklahoma a

2010
02:04:58,359 --> 02:05:01,479
lot and they really I know, you haven't had the

2011
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:07,760
guy on that read through Cryptid and I've hurt so

2012
02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:16,199
many encounters down there in Oklahoma and Michigan too. I

2013
02:05:16,239 --> 02:05:22,479
mean they're everywhere. Illinois is like fourth on the bfr

2014
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:27,000
O for the moment report, but they're really everywhere.

2015
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:31,279
Speaker 10: I guess, and if you go by documented reports, I

2016
02:05:31,319 --> 02:05:34,279
mean that's just documented. How many people just don't want

2017
02:05:34,319 --> 02:05:38,119
the ridicule that comes with reporting what they see and

2018
02:05:38,159 --> 02:05:39,039
what they hear, you know.

2019
02:05:40,119 --> 02:05:47,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's a good question from Kristen. What does Scott

2020
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:48,920
and Bill think of dog Man?

2021
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:54,319
Speaker 4: Dog Man is definitely out here. I have zero dells.

2022
02:05:54,399 --> 02:05:56,239
Speaker 10: I don't dabble with dog Man too much as far

2023
02:05:56,279 --> 02:05:59,760
as actively getting in the field, but I do research

2024
02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:03,319
that more like from a historical perspective, and I mean

2025
02:06:03,359 --> 02:06:06,079
the first dog Man siting here goes back to eighteen

2026
02:06:06,119 --> 02:06:10,159
eighty seven in Wexford, County. The only reason that the

2027
02:06:10,199 --> 02:06:13,800
attention was even brought to dog Man was because Steve Cook,

2028
02:06:14,079 --> 02:06:16,159
a DJ in Traverse City, had wrote a song for

2029
02:06:16,239 --> 02:06:19,560
Halloween about this dog man, and they called in and

2030
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:22,199
people started calling him with their reports, and he was

2031
02:06:22,279 --> 02:06:24,359
just made He just wrote it as a as a joke,

2032
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,640
and ever since then it's taken off. I couldn't tell

2033
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:31,199
you what it is. It seems more engineered to me

2034
02:06:31,520 --> 02:06:34,439
than anything else, because they seem to be more on

2035
02:06:34,479 --> 02:06:39,239
a programmed sort of behavior sasquatch is more capable of

2036
02:06:39,239 --> 02:06:41,920
intelligent decision making. So I really don't know what they

2037
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:44,800
are to be able to tell you. I have one

2038
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:47,680
that I caught a picture of during a big foot hunt,

2039
02:06:48,199 --> 02:06:51,199
but even looking at it, it's like, why is there

2040
02:06:51,239 --> 02:06:53,840
a nine foot dog on two back legs standing up?

2041
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,920
You know, I don't know where to go to further

2042
02:06:57,000 --> 02:07:00,079
my research on dog Man. It's a lot of that

2043
02:07:00,159 --> 02:07:00,640
ends with it.

2044
02:07:02,199 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 3: I don't know where they fit in. But boy, I've

2045
02:07:06,159 --> 02:07:08,960
sure met a lot of witnesses. I gave lot of

2046
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:11,920
detecture tests to a bunch of them, and I think

2047
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:17,640
they all passed. One was just inconclusive, but they all passed.

2048
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:21,159
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on dog Man?

2049
02:07:22,359 --> 02:07:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2050
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:25,880
Speaker 6: It's just like a pretty recent thing that's come up

2051
02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:29,079
in the last one thirty years.

2052
02:07:29,319 --> 02:07:37,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's reason to you, Bill, relative the hell.

2053
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:42,199
Speaker 6: Relatively, he said, But it seems like they're just coming

2054
02:07:42,199 --> 02:07:44,960
out of the woodwork. The reports from the encounters and

2055
02:07:46,439 --> 02:07:49,199
everywhere Ohio, Michigan.

2056
02:07:49,159 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 5: It does seem like that's on the rise. I I

2057
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:56,880
just wasn't very interested in dog Man, but boy, we've

2058
02:07:56,920 --> 02:08:01,359
had some credible stories, really really credible story a discount.

2059
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:06,600
Speaker 3: Do you do you want to see a dog man? Scott, Absolutely,

2060
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:07,399
you don't.

2061
02:08:07,479 --> 02:08:09,359
Speaker 4: I'll be sure to bring the begging strips along and

2062
02:08:09,359 --> 02:08:10,239
we'll see what happens.

2063
02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 3: Bill, Do you want to see it? Sure?

2064
02:08:15,439 --> 02:08:17,920
Speaker 10: I mean, if we're out here, we already know the

2065
02:08:18,039 --> 02:08:20,560
risks associated with looking for these things, So I mean,

2066
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:23,319
whatever comes with it. As a researcher, that's just part

2067
02:08:23,359 --> 02:08:25,960
of the territory. We can only take take you know,

2068
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:28,920
take our precautions the best we can. But if it's

2069
02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:30,640
your time, it's your time, you know, That's how I

2070
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:31,159
look at it.

2071
02:08:33,479 --> 02:08:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree that though, when you're straight out of

2072
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:40,159
your mind in the woods, but I'm.

2073
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:41,319
Speaker 4: Not get it out of here anyway.

2074
02:08:41,399 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 10: So yeah, Well, the scariest encounter to the ones where

2075
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:52,359
you don't even see what's terrifying you. You know what,

2076
02:08:52,439 --> 02:08:55,039
they're playing the mind games, just out of sight late

2077
02:08:55,039 --> 02:08:58,119
at night, you know, paralleling you, throwing sticks, just enough

2078
02:08:58,119 --> 02:09:00,119
to let you know that you're not the old they

2079
02:09:00,159 --> 02:09:00,640
went out here.

2080
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:01,359
Speaker 4: That sort of thing.

2081
02:09:03,479 --> 02:09:07,079
Speaker 5: Definitely, So what's this squatch?

2082
02:09:07,119 --> 02:09:11,760
Speaker 3: Mama goes and there's a legendary spotted cow appearing everywhere.

2083
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 5: She's talking about, you know about the beer, spotted Beer's.

2084
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:19,479
Speaker 3: I have a case of ANIMI refrigerator good stuff.

2085
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:20,840
Speaker 5: You got to go to Wisconsin to get it.

2086
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:24,000
Speaker 3: You can't get it. Guy brought me a case of

2087
02:09:24,079 --> 02:09:27,880
it and it's been at the condo in the fridge

2088
02:09:28,279 --> 02:09:31,960
all the stiff and me and Eric had one each.

2089
02:09:32,680 --> 02:09:35,560
Good stuff. Me and Eric had you just spotted cow

2090
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:38,880
and it was good. And it's still sitting there and

2091
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:40,079
Jeff's got your name on it.

2092
02:09:40,399 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 5: I have to commit it pretty soon.

2093
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:43,239
Speaker 4: Bill's going to stock up on him for us.

2094
02:09:44,239 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 3: I can do that.

2095
02:09:45,159 --> 02:09:45,479
Speaker 6: I can.

2096
02:09:47,199 --> 02:09:47,399
Speaker 3: See.

2097
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:50,119
Speaker 5: I'm not stupid.

2098
02:09:50,239 --> 02:10:00,239
Speaker 3: I new spotted cow. Yeah. The whole cryptid mystery, Yeah,

2099
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:03,640
isn't going away. That's what I tell people. It's it's

2100
02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:08,880
being fueled constantly. The dog Man sightings are fueled, Bigfoot

2101
02:10:09,199 --> 02:10:13,600
sightings are fueled all the time. But yet I know

2102
02:10:14,159 --> 02:10:20,600
we're not getting Unicorn reports, We're not getting all sorts

2103
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:24,720
of you know, reports of other mythical things. But we

2104
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:27,520
are dog Man and Bigfoot, So then they're not going

2105
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:29,760
to go away. It was the last thing we took

2106
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:32,439
a unicorn report. Never.

2107
02:10:35,399 --> 02:10:37,399
Speaker 4: I'll be right back. I gotta go get that notebook

2108
02:10:37,439 --> 02:10:38,039
out of my drawer.

2109
02:10:38,399 --> 02:10:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, shut up.

2110
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:41,840
Speaker 5: The unicorn notebook.

2111
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:46,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's even sparkly covered. It could just stay in character.

2112
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 3: But that's my argument. You know, it's like the Bigfoot

2113
02:10:52,119 --> 02:10:55,560
is just fueled, like every day. I often wonder how

2114
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:59,079
many real sightings happen every day. I'm sure it's in

2115
02:10:59,159 --> 02:10:59,840
the hundreds and.

2116
02:11:00,079 --> 02:11:04,960
Speaker 10: Hundreds I think is the US population alone of Bigfoot. Oh,

2117
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:07,840
at least you guys can share however you think are here.

2118
02:11:08,359 --> 02:11:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least four or five thousand, it's my guest

2119
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:14,760
at least it would be. That would be the minimum

2120
02:11:15,199 --> 02:11:17,720
four to five thousand, and from there. I wouldn't be

2121
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:21,359
shocked if somebody said, if somebody told me eighty thousand,

2122
02:11:21,439 --> 02:11:27,800
I would go Okay, there we go, there's the news. Yeah,

2123
02:11:29,319 --> 02:11:32,359
I have that exact case in my in my refrigerator

2124
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:35,479
and there's two beers missing on it. It's been there

2125
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:41,000
for two months. It's so if you get through Wisconsin,

2126
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:45,399
bring me a case of spoty go because some some

2127
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:47,760
year that one's going to be gone. I don't know when.

2128
02:11:50,479 --> 02:11:56,920
What the hell are we talking about? I don't even know. Oh? Oh, population, Yeah,

2129
02:11:56,960 --> 02:12:00,439
I see like here Bruce is around two hundred thousand. Oh.

2130
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:04,439
He can absolutely be right though, because.

2131
02:12:04,479 --> 02:12:07,880
Speaker 4: I think that's reasonable. I mean I do how many

2132
02:12:08,159 --> 02:12:10,600
how many babies do they have at a time, how

2133
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:11,680
rapidly do they grow?

2134
02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:15,439
Speaker 3: I mean we're talking to fat North American, right, Yeah,

2135
02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:18,279
it's a big area. But how many black bears do

2136
02:12:18,319 --> 02:12:23,479
we have Minnesota? You know, twenty thousand about But I

2137
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:26,520
think populations have been as I as thirty eight thousand

2138
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:29,880
black bears in Minnesota. But do I think that's the

2139
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,680
real number. No, I think there's fifty thousand black bears

2140
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:38,319
in Minnesota. I think the numbers we're hearing are complete bs. Well,

2141
02:12:38,399 --> 02:12:42,279
the cougars, I'll bet you we have ten thousand cougars

2142
02:12:42,319 --> 02:12:45,159
in Minnesota. Yeah, I've seen two of them.

2143
02:12:45,319 --> 02:12:49,760
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, also, I don't think is on

2144
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:50,680
top of the right now.

2145
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:53,920
Speaker 3: There are just still bs. I know, we have way

2146
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:56,359
more cougars, you know, in the area.

2147
02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:58,439
Speaker 5: They still say we don't have any. I mean, up

2148
02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:01,119
until very recently they were still that we didn't have any.

2149
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:05,920
Speaker 3: I have gone to towns, whole towns, and just invited

2150
02:13:06,039 --> 02:13:09,039
like the whole town to come to be interviewed for

2151
02:13:09,199 --> 02:13:13,039
whatever reason, and I'll say, have you ever seen this

2152
02:13:13,439 --> 02:13:18,359
a bear? No? Seen a bigfoot? Yes? Next you ever

2153
02:13:18,439 --> 02:13:22,039
seen a bear? No bigfoot? Yes? You know what I mean.

2154
02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:27,920
Even in the town of Cougar in Washington, I interviewed,

2155
02:13:27,960 --> 02:13:31,920
I think the entire town, nobody had ever seen a cougar.

2156
02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:35,960
Everybody had seen a bigfoot at one time or another

2157
02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:40,199
in the town of Cougar, but nobody had ever seen

2158
02:13:40,199 --> 02:13:42,880
a cougar. No one person in the town said, yeah,

2159
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:46,520
I've seen a cougar. Everybody had seen a bigfoot at

2160
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:50,760
one time or another. So there you go, and that's

2161
02:13:51,039 --> 02:13:52,920
kind of shocking information. I think.

2162
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:57,079
Speaker 4: Now I got a question, of course I do, right,

2163
02:13:57,239 --> 02:13:57,800
How could.

2164
02:13:57,600 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 3: I not have another? Well, Richard would yes, Richard, go ahead,

2165
02:14:02,239 --> 02:14:02,680
all right.

2166
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:06,119
Speaker 10: Let's just for the sake of discussion. These things are

2167
02:14:06,279 --> 02:14:09,399
of supernatural origin, completely change.

2168
02:14:09,119 --> 02:14:09,920
Speaker 5: The entire.

2169
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 3: Richard. I love the way you frame stuff. Really, it's

2170
02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:17,039
a very healthy way. You really do a good job there,

2171
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:20,560
you know. And I do want to compliment you on

2172
02:14:20,720 --> 02:14:24,600
that for sure. The Richards stuff's not really a compliment

2173
02:14:24,760 --> 02:14:29,520
you think it is that, but the way, but the

2174
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:32,319
way you frame things is because I like the way

2175
02:14:32,399 --> 02:14:34,720
you do it. You you do it in a very

2176
02:14:36,279 --> 02:14:42,000
you know, uh open way. You're not throwing you're not

2177
02:14:42,239 --> 02:14:45,800
pushing theories on people, You're not saying you're right. You

2178
02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:48,920
just like to entertain. So go ahead and ask your question.

2179
02:14:49,039 --> 02:14:53,039
I'm sorry you've interrupted you to compliment you, ever redite.

2180
02:14:54,039 --> 02:14:57,640
Speaker 10: If these things are all supernatural, does that change the

2181
02:14:57,720 --> 02:15:02,000
course of the research game. I mean, if we take

2182
02:15:02,079 --> 02:15:05,279
them as fund and blood, it stays pretty much where

2183
02:15:05,279 --> 02:15:07,199
we're at with it now, I think. But if we

2184
02:15:07,319 --> 02:15:10,920
throw in supernatural now origin changes timeline might change.

2185
02:15:11,319 --> 02:15:14,039
Speaker 4: I mean, it would might throw a monkey wrench in

2186
02:15:14,079 --> 02:15:14,479
things a bit.

2187
02:15:16,079 --> 02:15:19,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, how would it change? And I guess we would

2188
02:15:19,079 --> 02:15:21,800
have to use different tools. We'd have to use things

2189
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:23,920
like trimeters.

2190
02:15:23,279 --> 02:15:25,520
Speaker 5: And you know, uh.

2191
02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:31,720
Speaker 3: Geiger counters and you know, RF meters and all that

2192
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:36,079
kind of crap. We'd be trying to get EVPs and

2193
02:15:36,239 --> 02:15:39,319
you know, basically the same stuff they use for ghosts,

2194
02:15:40,359 --> 02:15:44,960
because there's really not a lot new in that front.

2195
02:15:45,119 --> 02:15:48,560
I don't I don't follow ghost shows. I don't know.

2196
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:55,560
Maybe there is some new stuff, mirrors, I mean, this

2197
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:57,560
would be a lot of new things that you'd have

2198
02:15:57,680 --> 02:16:02,840
to try, and you could be absolutely right. I've I've

2199
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:06,960
witnessed so many things that just kind of make you

2200
02:16:07,039 --> 02:16:11,199
scratch your head going home. What and you know, we've

2201
02:16:11,279 --> 02:16:14,560
had other things that we've seen. I was driving back

2202
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:20,640
with Yvette down thirty five W a regular big freeway

2203
02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:24,119
coming through Moose Lake. We saw something just drop down

2204
02:16:24,199 --> 02:16:26,840
out of the sky on a clear night and it

2205
02:16:27,039 --> 02:16:29,880
just headed for my windshield. And as it got closer,

2206
02:16:30,039 --> 02:16:34,559
we both described what something that had wings that were

2207
02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:38,760
as wide as the freeway looked humanoid, and it swooped

2208
02:16:38,799 --> 02:16:41,239
at my car for a purpose to scare the living

2209
02:16:41,319 --> 02:16:43,760
crap out of it out of us. You know, she

2210
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:46,760
ducked and I eventually ducked too. We thought it was

2211
02:16:46,799 --> 02:16:48,280
coming through the windshield. What was that?

2212
02:16:50,239 --> 02:16:51,440
Speaker 4: Where does that come from?

2213
02:16:51,479 --> 02:16:51,639
Speaker 3: Though?

2214
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:51,959
Speaker 4: Where?

2215
02:16:52,399 --> 02:16:52,840
Speaker 3: Exactly?

2216
02:16:52,959 --> 02:16:54,079
Speaker 4: Way? Human noise?

2217
02:16:54,479 --> 02:16:57,280
Speaker 10: I mean, come on, now I can't even find a

2218
02:16:57,440 --> 02:17:00,559
starting point, let alone a place to start everything wrong

2219
02:17:01,239 --> 02:17:01,479
and that.

2220
02:17:01,639 --> 02:17:05,159
Speaker 3: Haunts us, Scott, It really does. It haunts us because

2221
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:10,440
we know always saw, but yet it doesn't fit in

2222
02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:14,600
any flesh and blood category. It doesn't fit with deer

2223
02:17:15,079 --> 02:17:18,840
and bears or even bigfoot. It's just way out there.

2224
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:19,280
Speaker 6: You know.

2225
02:17:19,520 --> 02:17:21,719
Speaker 4: That was the hardest part for me, was like, I

2226
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:24,200
see you right there, but you're not supposed to be real.

2227
02:17:24,639 --> 02:17:25,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

2228
02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:27,959
Speaker 10: Trying to process that at first is like, Okay, now,

2229
02:17:28,079 --> 02:17:30,200
has everything I've ever been taught a lie at this point?

2230
02:17:31,159 --> 02:17:32,840
Speaker 4: But to a degree, I think we're at a point

2231
02:17:32,840 --> 02:17:33,559
where that's a yes.

2232
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:37,239
Speaker 5: But Shelley has made a great comment. That's that's relevant too,

2233
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:39,680
is I You know, if I see something like that,

2234
02:17:40,520 --> 02:17:45,120
my first instinct would be the question, doubt myself? You know,

2235
02:17:45,239 --> 02:17:49,200
I would question myself first. That's what shell Well you

2236
02:17:49,360 --> 02:17:51,159
do when you have a witness with you.

2237
02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:53,399
Speaker 3: If I would have been alone, for sure, I would have.

2238
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:56,600
But with a witness and the kind of trauma that

2239
02:17:56,680 --> 02:17:59,319
we both went through, Nope, we didn't question it, and

2240
02:17:59,399 --> 02:18:02,760
I don't. What I do question is what was it?

2241
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:08,120
Was it as big as we perceived it? What was

2242
02:18:08,239 --> 02:18:12,600
its purpose? Was it an illusion that we both saw,

2243
02:18:13,559 --> 02:18:16,760
you know, some kind of a not a hologram, but

2244
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:20,879
like I don't know, I don't even know what to

2245
02:18:20,920 --> 02:18:24,719
put it. Just some kind of a spiritual experience. Or

2246
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:28,440
was it just at that time a flesh and blood creature?

2247
02:18:28,799 --> 02:18:32,000
But it dived in my car, no other purpose. It

2248
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:34,920
must have tried to scare us. But I found other

2249
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:37,920
people that thing had done the same thing too. Write

2250
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:40,479
in Minnesota, right.

2251
02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:43,879
Speaker 10: Every state seems to have kind of its own thing

2252
02:18:43,959 --> 02:18:47,600
and its own sort of an sort of style of encounters.

2253
02:18:47,639 --> 02:18:53,159
Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, but where do I put that? I

2254
02:18:53,239 --> 02:18:55,440
don't know. It's still hanging out there. I don't know,

2255
02:18:55,520 --> 02:18:57,600
it's sitting on my desk. That experience. I don't know

2256
02:18:57,600 --> 02:18:58,120
what to do with it.

2257
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:00,760
Speaker 4: Does it wing humanually classify as a cryptid?

2258
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:05,840
Speaker 3: I wouldn't classify it as a CRYPTI I'd classify it more.

2259
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:10,319
Speaker 4: As an alienrestrial life and all that.

2260
02:19:10,639 --> 02:19:13,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it had okay, it had wings, but

2261
02:19:14,079 --> 02:19:17,840
they were outstretched and dropped straight down, so that defied physics.

2262
02:19:18,479 --> 02:19:22,559
Speaker 12: Like the thing basically yeah, exactly exactly what it looked like,

2263
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:26,440
but it dropped straight down with open wings and then

2264
02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:28,559
had it at a right angle and added for my

2265
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:32,239
windshield without flapping its wings.

2266
02:19:34,559 --> 02:19:41,360
Speaker 3: So man, yeah, it was scary to this day. I

2267
02:19:41,440 --> 02:19:45,280
mean it's affected event in a great way. Like if

2268
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:48,159
we got to drive in the woods that night, it main'thattening.

2269
02:19:49,719 --> 02:19:53,319
Speaker 5: Not knowing back to what Doug said about but Scott,

2270
02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:57,079
the way you framed that question, and that's just this

2271
02:19:57,200 --> 02:19:59,239
is a little bit of a tangent. But that's why

2272
02:19:59,319 --> 02:20:03,879
we really a brace the unverified crap because we're not

2273
02:20:05,159 --> 02:20:08,159
My identity is not attached to anyone theory. Neither is Dougs.

2274
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:10,079
I find out that you know what, this is one

2275
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:14,799
hundred percent supernatural. Okay, it's not gonna it's not gonna

2276
02:20:14,840 --> 02:20:17,239
hurt my reputation, it's not gonna hurt my feelings. I'm

2277
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:18,559
not going to feel stupid.

2278
02:20:19,079 --> 02:20:20,479
Speaker 3: I just it is what it is.

2279
02:20:20,639 --> 02:20:24,520
Speaker 5: So we're extremely open minded and I don't know. If

2280
02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:26,200
we just listen to people, talk to them, we hear

2281
02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:29,879
some interesting stories. Some are really credible, lots of lots

2282
02:20:29,879 --> 02:20:32,600
of I should say, I should say lots are really credible. Yeah,

2283
02:20:33,159 --> 02:20:36,079
but that's that's I agree with Doug. I like to

2284
02:20:36,239 --> 02:20:38,319
use frame that question because we don't know.

2285
02:20:38,639 --> 02:20:43,799
Speaker 3: We don't know. Well, like Trisians asking did you think

2286
02:20:43,799 --> 02:20:46,840
it was? I don't know, and had like leathery, shiny

2287
02:20:46,959 --> 02:20:51,159
skin to it didn't have feathers. I thought monthman was

2288
02:20:51,239 --> 02:20:53,280
covered with some kind of feathers. It looked more like

2289
02:20:53,399 --> 02:20:58,879
a bat, a humanoid with bowings. But I'm not alone.

2290
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:01,159
I mean I found tons of people that saw the

2291
02:21:01,239 --> 02:21:04,360
same thing. It's going on in Chicago right now. Lon

2292
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:07,559
Strickler has been collecting tons of reports of the same

2293
02:21:07,680 --> 02:21:12,680
exact creature all around the O'Hare airport. You know, even

2294
02:21:12,719 --> 02:21:17,239
baggage handlers are seeing it. The scary part is, though,

2295
02:21:18,159 --> 02:21:21,879
that thing swooped out of the sky really quick, and

2296
02:21:22,120 --> 02:21:26,440
could you imagine walking alone along that same stretch of highway?

2297
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:29,159
Would you be here anymore? Or would you become a

2298
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:34,520
missing person? Or was it intention only to scare us?

2299
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:38,079
Or was his intention was only to say hello?

2300
02:21:39,559 --> 02:21:41,959
Speaker 4: Because how I had first?

2301
02:21:42,159 --> 02:21:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Isn't Richard getting witty as the night goes on?

2302
02:21:50,760 --> 02:21:55,479
He just keeps getting wittier and wittier. Well, you're welcome. Yes,

2303
02:21:59,040 --> 02:22:04,520
I just know that there could be a million reasons

2304
02:22:04,559 --> 02:22:07,680
why I swooped him here. But here's what happened. I

2305
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:10,760
called my agent and I said, you remember that Mothman show.

2306
02:22:10,799 --> 02:22:13,360
You wanted me to do un Monster Quest and I

2307
02:22:13,479 --> 02:22:16,520
refused to do it because there was no physical evidence,

2308
02:22:16,959 --> 02:22:19,360
I said, And I told my agent when we in

2309
02:22:19,479 --> 02:22:23,559
e Vetsa, and I said, I'll do it. So I

2310
02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:26,559
agreed to do that episode only because I at that

2311
02:22:26,719 --> 02:22:30,360
point didn't think they were bs anymore. So I did

2312
02:22:30,479 --> 02:22:33,799
the show and found other witnesses. I was surprised so

2313
02:22:33,879 --> 02:22:38,559
many witnesses I found, including uh a father and son

2314
02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:43,520
literally due south where we saw ours, had it swoop

2315
02:22:43,559 --> 02:22:46,159
at their car. The only difference is they pulled over

2316
02:22:46,239 --> 02:22:49,920
and were throwing up. They got sick. Nice hand by

2317
02:22:49,959 --> 02:22:57,040
the way, bell, that was nice word. Yeah. The whole

2318
02:22:57,079 --> 02:22:58,760
world now is senior callouses.

2319
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:04,840
Speaker 6: Fingerprints, Yeah, your fingerprints.

2320
02:23:05,559 --> 02:23:09,520
Speaker 3: All the stuff like this happens in live, live shows.

2321
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:10,319
We love it.

2322
02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:13,200
Speaker 4: Andyhow what was your favorite episode.

2323
02:23:13,559 --> 02:23:17,680
Speaker 3: Of Oh, I don't know, I don't really have one.

2324
02:23:17,719 --> 02:23:22,079
The one that was done after I got them done.

2325
02:23:22,120 --> 02:23:23,840
There there was so much work and then you get

2326
02:23:23,879 --> 02:23:25,719
them done and that was my favorite. Yeah.

2327
02:23:25,719 --> 02:23:29,239
Speaker 4: That was so basically all of them after they were completely.

2328
02:23:28,959 --> 02:23:31,479
Speaker 3: After they were complete, they were all my favorite. I

2329
02:23:31,639 --> 02:23:33,920
loved them all and they all, you know, the ones

2330
02:23:33,959 --> 02:23:37,239
that were the least were things like that that I

2331
02:23:37,360 --> 02:23:42,079
felt I was bullied into making. Were things like chimps attacking,

2332
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:44,799
you know, killer chimps and shows like that that I

2333
02:23:45,639 --> 02:23:52,239
that were non crypto zoology related. The squid I enjoyed.

2334
02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:54,479
And the shark, you know, the shark thing I enjoyed

2335
02:23:54,520 --> 02:23:56,360
because we had a chance to do a lot of

2336
02:23:57,239 --> 02:24:01,399
you know, cool exploring and we ended up filming a

2337
02:24:01,719 --> 02:24:05,000
you know, like the first Greenland shark and fresh water

2338
02:24:05,799 --> 02:24:10,239
and the Saint Lawrence way upstream almost in Illinois, right

2339
02:24:10,280 --> 02:24:14,280
above Illinois. That was cool anytime we could do that.

2340
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:17,639
But they were all great, except the ones that I

2341
02:24:17,719 --> 02:24:21,639
didn't want to do, which were the jump even the

2342
02:24:21,760 --> 02:24:24,079
bear one I didn't really want to do because I

2343
02:24:24,159 --> 02:24:27,399
don't think of bears as monsters, you know.

2344
02:24:27,479 --> 02:24:28,959
Speaker 10: I'll tell you what was scared the hell out of

2345
02:24:29,040 --> 02:24:32,440
me was the huge gators and the sewer one possibility.

2346
02:24:32,799 --> 02:24:37,879
Speaker 3: Yeah that was okay, Yeah, probably that wasn't my favorite one. Yeah,

2347
02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:42,000
but my brother, my brother used to tell me there's

2348
02:24:42,159 --> 02:24:44,840
gaters in the sewer and he would tell me these

2349
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,840
stories when I was a kid, the alligators that would

2350
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:50,719
turn white and they'd live in the sewers because I

2351
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:53,760
was a sewer explorer when I was a kid. We

2352
02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:56,600
would go into the sewer and the now that you know,

2353
02:24:56,639 --> 02:25:00,319
in the fresh water, the drainage sewers, which were quite big,

2354
02:25:01,159 --> 02:25:06,840
and I had maps of the entire area, and I

2355
02:25:07,639 --> 02:25:11,000
went definitely subterranean, and I would introduce my friends to

2356
02:25:11,159 --> 02:25:16,239
this subterranean world the door. I never saw anything weird

2357
02:25:16,280 --> 02:25:18,920
in those sewers, but man, we could trigger it around

2358
02:25:19,440 --> 02:25:23,719
secretly and in the wintertime, the water would freeze and

2359
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:28,040
you could propel yourself to these tunnels, you know, really

2360
02:25:28,159 --> 02:25:33,680
quick because it was smooth glare ice because there's no wind.

2361
02:25:33,719 --> 02:25:37,200
When the ice would freeze, it would be just super nice.

2362
02:25:37,360 --> 02:25:41,360
The coefficient would be solow. You could just poosh. You

2363
02:25:41,399 --> 02:25:45,440
could travel really fast in the wintertime in these sewers.

2364
02:25:45,639 --> 02:25:47,360
And yeah, I think about it now, I would never

2365
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:50,239
even go down in one, but yeah, we that was

2366
02:25:50,360 --> 02:25:53,159
kind of a big thing for us, the sewers. And

2367
02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:55,680
the more the more I think about it, the more

2368
02:25:55,719 --> 02:26:00,280
I have neighbors. Yeah, why would I do that? Why

2369
02:26:00,319 --> 02:26:03,600
would I do that? Okay, any questions for these these guys,

2370
02:26:03,760 --> 02:26:08,360
Bill you can just butt in, you know, you can

2371
02:26:08,479 --> 02:26:11,920
just start teasing Scott on might behalf if you want.

2372
02:26:13,360 --> 02:26:15,280
Speaker 4: That needs to be half, so you're you're home free.

2373
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have any teasing you like to give Scott?

2374
02:26:19,799 --> 02:26:23,040
Speaker 6: Well, we want to maybe hear something from Jaws from Dreyfus.

2375
02:26:23,399 --> 02:26:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Do you don't e the lines?

2376
02:26:26,159 --> 02:26:28,479
Speaker 10: I don't right off not off hand. It's been probably

2377
02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:30,319
thirty years since I watched Jaws.

2378
02:26:30,680 --> 02:26:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to watch it again, and you need

2379
02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:37,280
to repeat every line. Now, I'm telling your voice is

2380
02:26:37,479 --> 02:26:42,440
like exacted a voice, and your smile I'm so swear

2381
02:26:42,479 --> 02:26:45,120
to god. Yeah, I got to think you guys are

2382
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:46,040
freaking related.

2383
02:26:46,959 --> 02:26:50,639
Speaker 4: I mean, it wouldn't be all bad. No, no, it'd

2384
02:26:50,680 --> 02:26:51,840
be an interesting dude to talk to.

2385
02:26:52,399 --> 02:26:56,040
Speaker 3: Oh god, yes, yeah, super he was. He was definitely,

2386
02:26:56,200 --> 02:26:58,680
I thought, one of the one of the best actors

2387
02:26:58,760 --> 02:27:03,159
out there. And he did Close Encounters too, right, Yeah, yeah,

2388
02:27:03,239 --> 02:27:04,280
it was great in that movie.

2389
02:27:05,680 --> 02:27:09,600
Speaker 10: That was one of my favorite extraterrestrial contact movies of

2390
02:27:09,639 --> 02:27:13,000
all time because I really think he did a great

2391
02:27:13,159 --> 02:27:15,600
job of getting a lot of the details down of

2392
02:27:15,719 --> 02:27:17,959
what a lot of the victims of abduction and stuff.

2393
02:27:18,200 --> 02:27:21,799
Speaker 4: Okay, so now it really was on that to a degree.

2394
02:27:21,920 --> 02:27:24,840
Speaker 3: Right, But let's talk about the new one. The Disclosure movie.

2395
02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:28,319
I went and saw that was all pumped up, and

2396
02:27:28,479 --> 02:27:33,319
it was the biggest pile of steaming crap I had

2397
02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:36,760
ever seen in my life for a film. It was

2398
02:27:36,879 --> 02:27:39,399
basically two hours of a chase scene with a guy

2399
02:27:39,479 --> 02:27:40,479
with a thumb drive.

2400
02:27:40,719 --> 02:27:43,600
Speaker 4: Really he us watch the boring identity.

2401
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:49,639
Speaker 3: It was two hours of not only the chasings, but

2402
02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:52,680
not even good chase scenes of a guy with a

2403
02:27:52,799 --> 02:27:56,840
fancy thumb drive that had all the alien disclosure crap,

2404
02:27:57,360 --> 02:28:00,600
and one scene of a newscaster who kind of acted

2405
02:28:00,799 --> 02:28:01,719
like an alien.

2406
02:28:02,319 --> 02:28:02,719
Speaker 6: That was it.

2407
02:28:03,239 --> 02:28:06,200
Speaker 3: That was. They missed the entire boat on that whole movie.

2408
02:28:06,520 --> 02:28:10,000
Speaker 4: And anything good that they captured nothing zero.

2409
02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:13,040
Speaker 3: I'd give that movie a negative twenty out out of

2410
02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:15,319
you know, if you had a rating of ten, it

2411
02:28:15,360 --> 02:28:18,920
would be a negative twenty. It was that bad, especially

2412
02:28:20,879 --> 02:28:25,120
that movie, especially when you consider who did it right

2413
02:28:25,239 --> 02:28:28,879
in the great movies he did once. Yeah, I don't

2414
02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:31,159
know who talked him into a two hour chase scene.

2415
02:28:31,239 --> 02:28:33,840
But if you like that movie, I'm sorry, then you

2416
02:28:34,120 --> 02:28:37,719
liked the Marvel movies too. You know, it's just constant

2417
02:28:38,600 --> 02:28:42,520
crazy cars blowing up and crap like that. And this

2418
02:28:42,680 --> 02:28:45,319
is not me. I like stories. I'm a story guy,

2419
02:28:45,399 --> 02:28:50,040
and there was no story in the movie. They couldn't

2420
02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:53,680
even get Oh my god, and their government agents pictures

2421
02:28:53,719 --> 02:28:56,840
like a whole bunch of government agents one scene and

2422
02:28:56,959 --> 02:29:00,280
the guy's hiding with his Girlve and behind us Dick

2423
02:29:00,360 --> 02:29:03,760
Trea Sapling, And I'm thinking, then the government agents are

2424
02:29:03,799 --> 02:29:07,159
like twenty feet away, and I'm thinking, this is like

2425
02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:10,159
the biggest pile of garbage movie I've ever seen.

2426
02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:12,879
Speaker 4: Just like seventy percent of the shootouts and the TV

2427
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:15,000
shows and the movies, like, you.

2428
02:29:15,120 --> 02:29:19,879
Speaker 10: Guys are unloading full magazines at like fifteen feet nobody's

2429
02:29:19,879 --> 02:29:21,559
connecting with any of exactly.

2430
02:29:21,920 --> 02:29:23,399
Speaker 4: It's like, are you serious right now?

2431
02:29:23,879 --> 02:29:27,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, needless to say, I thought it was horrible. Yeah,

2432
02:29:28,799 --> 02:29:29,680
so I'd give it.

2433
02:29:30,040 --> 02:29:33,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, just about Signs. I thought Signs was fantastic.

2434
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:35,879
Speaker 3: Signs was one of my favorite movies. This is a

2435
02:29:35,959 --> 02:29:41,479
great story. That was an m Night Charloman movie, and

2436
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:45,799
that was I'm not how slow it was a slow burn.

2437
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:50,159
It was a great movie. The genius of the scene

2438
02:29:50,319 --> 02:29:54,440
with the mirror or the knife reflection looking at the

2439
02:29:54,520 --> 02:29:59,600
alien and seeing that that was brilliant. It really was,

2440
02:30:00,239 --> 02:30:04,520
And it wasn't it wasn't really high budget, but the

2441
02:30:04,600 --> 02:30:07,440
whole story was great. It was fun, it was entertaining,

2442
02:30:08,399 --> 02:30:14,680
a comedy in it, and it was some real serious drama. Yeah. No,

2443
02:30:14,799 --> 02:30:16,479
it was a great movie. I'd give that ten out

2444
02:30:16,479 --> 02:30:20,559
of ten signs. There were other movies that I liked

2445
02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:25,520
on the topic, not many. I thought The Fire in

2446
02:30:25,600 --> 02:30:27,040
the Sky was a good movie with.

2447
02:30:29,399 --> 02:30:31,719
Speaker 4: Travis Walton was yeah, based on.

2448
02:30:31,799 --> 02:30:34,319
Speaker 3: Travis Walton with DV. Sweeney is the actor.

2449
02:30:35,200 --> 02:30:35,360
Speaker 6: You know.

2450
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:39,120
Speaker 3: It's funny because I became I became friends with dB

2451
02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:45,040
Sweeney and oh no, no, TB. Sweety he played he

2452
02:30:45,159 --> 02:30:49,520
played Travis in the movie, and because he narrated my

2453
02:30:49,760 --> 02:30:54,120
series Mysterious Encounters, and he was so great. He was

2454
02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:57,200
so cool to work with because he you could call

2455
02:30:57,319 --> 02:30:58,920
him up in the middle of the night and he'd

2456
02:30:59,479 --> 02:31:01,760
pick up, but he'd get to a studio if I

2457
02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:05,719
needed something at the studio, never bitched. He was awesome

2458
02:31:05,799 --> 02:31:09,079
to work with. DV. Sweeney. And then I became friends

2459
02:31:09,280 --> 02:31:16,360
with another actor in the movie. I met him buying

2460
02:31:16,399 --> 02:31:19,079
a car, which is a long story, but anyhow, we

2461
02:31:19,159 --> 02:31:21,000
became good friends. I ended up meeting two of the

2462
02:31:21,079 --> 02:31:24,280
guys that were in that movie, and you know, ended

2463
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:26,399
up actually kind of hanging out with these guys, so

2464
02:31:26,479 --> 02:31:30,040
it's fun. That was a great movie. Fire in the Guy,

2465
02:31:30,239 --> 02:31:31,959
I love it. You haven't seen that?

2466
02:31:32,280 --> 02:31:32,959
Speaker 4: The Fourth Kind?

2467
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:36,879
Speaker 10: I really liked the Fourth kind too, where all the

2468
02:31:36,959 --> 02:31:39,000
abductions are taking place in Noam, Alaska.

2469
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:44,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that was just creepy. Yeah that was good.

2470
02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:46,879
I mean, for what they spent in the movie, it

2471
02:31:47,159 --> 02:31:51,000
was a little disappointing. I expected a little more at

2472
02:31:51,040 --> 02:31:53,680
the end, but it was a good movie. Yes, I agree.

2473
02:31:54,559 --> 02:31:57,600
It definitely was creepy. It had a very high creep level.

2474
02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:02,040
But there's one Bigfoot movie I like, not one.

2475
02:32:03,319 --> 02:32:07,000
Speaker 4: No, The only one I liked was relatively something. I

2476
02:32:07,079 --> 02:32:07,559
can't remember.

2477
02:32:07,639 --> 02:32:10,600
Speaker 10: His last name was Ford, and it was called Something

2478
02:32:10,639 --> 02:32:13,000
in the Woods. It's like set in the sixties where

2479
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:15,600
this boy catches a sasquatch on the farm.

2480
02:32:16,040 --> 02:32:18,600
Speaker 4: I think he chases him home and you know, the

2481
02:32:18,719 --> 02:32:19,719
dad doesn't believe him.

2482
02:32:21,799 --> 02:32:22,440
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.

2483
02:32:22,520 --> 02:32:24,360
Speaker 4: What's it called something in the Woods?

2484
02:32:25,079 --> 02:32:25,440
Speaker 3: Something?

2485
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:26,799
Speaker 4: Actually, let me look it.

2486
02:32:26,840 --> 02:32:30,479
Speaker 3: Up real quick. Boy.

2487
02:32:30,559 --> 02:32:32,840
Speaker 5: That la the newest big movie that Doug and I

2488
02:32:32,920 --> 02:32:33,799
went on the theater.

2489
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:39,760
Speaker 3: Oh god, that was The Sunset. I fell asleep with five.

2490
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:41,680
Speaker 5: Minutes and I woke him up and we left before

2491
02:32:41,719 --> 02:32:42,159
it was over.

2492
02:32:42,200 --> 02:32:42,879
Speaker 3: It was so bad.

2493
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:44,639
Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna let him sleep. And I'm like, no,

2494
02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:46,120
we got we got to get take out of here.

2495
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:49,079
Speaker 3: That movie was terrible. I was out like a light.

2496
02:32:50,319 --> 02:32:55,840
It's terrible. Yeah, And I think we went with Adam,

2497
02:32:55,879 --> 02:33:00,360
didn't we? Yeah, and you and Adam watched that whole

2498
02:33:00,559 --> 02:33:02,200
piece of Adam Stade.

2499
02:33:02,239 --> 02:33:04,319
Speaker 5: You and I laugh, remember, oh that's right.

2500
02:33:04,760 --> 02:33:08,719
Speaker 3: But I'm like, let's get We went over to Sammy's Pizza. Yeah, Adam,

2501
02:33:09,159 --> 02:33:11,760
We're like, yeah, Hearing Henderson's was a good movie. It

2502
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:15,280
was well produced. It was a movie.

2503
02:33:15,479 --> 02:33:17,360
Speaker 4: Did they make a series after that too? With the

2504
02:33:17,399 --> 02:33:18,520
same cast for a little while.

2505
02:33:18,680 --> 02:33:21,559
Speaker 3: Letters from the Big Man was interesting, but it was

2506
02:33:21,639 --> 02:33:27,040
a little too. There wasn't much content to that, Scott.

2507
02:33:27,040 --> 02:33:29,079
Speaker 5: I don't know about to answer your question, Scott, I'm

2508
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:32,440
not familiar with that. Okay, you could be right. I'm

2509
02:33:32,440 --> 02:33:33,280
just not familiar with No.

2510
02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:37,399
Speaker 3: Are you a movie fan or no more less?

2511
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:40,200
Speaker 6: I like the real stuff, the documentary stuff.

2512
02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:46,000
Speaker 3: Okay, find that stuff. I'm not really okay. Can we

2513
02:33:46,079 --> 02:33:51,479
see the pall in your hand again? Thank you? That's good.

2514
02:33:54,360 --> 02:33:57,719
I'm just I'm just giving you guys grap I love

2515
02:33:57,760 --> 02:34:01,920
it your fun. I'm in that moon today. I don't

2516
02:34:01,959 --> 02:34:05,120
know why. I think I had too much sleep. I

2517
02:34:05,200 --> 02:34:08,680
get I get streaky when I I get like I'd

2518
02:34:08,719 --> 02:34:10,920
like to play platical jokes on people when I get

2519
02:34:11,239 --> 02:34:15,319
too much sleep. For some reason, I can't. I just

2520
02:34:15,399 --> 02:34:23,200
become like the smart ascid. Yeah you're streaky today, Michael.

2521
02:34:24,719 --> 02:34:27,280
Speaker 5: They're twisted. Answer your question. So they'd make a TV show.

2522
02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:28,959
But none of the human cast return.

2523
02:34:29,079 --> 02:34:31,920
Speaker 4: Okay, see no, John Lithgow, I did.

2524
02:34:31,840 --> 02:34:32,280
Speaker 5: Not know that.

2525
02:34:33,159 --> 02:34:34,440
Speaker 3: Oh but that movie.

2526
02:34:34,520 --> 02:34:35,319
Speaker 5: That was a fun movie.

2527
02:34:35,399 --> 02:34:39,719
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. Yeah, the ancient alien documentaries are good

2528
02:34:39,799 --> 02:34:42,559
after you've seen one, though you've seen them all. If

2529
02:34:42,600 --> 02:34:48,600
I hear the narrator go, what's his line? Is it possible?

2530
02:34:49,079 --> 02:34:51,799
Is it possible? The narrator says all the time.

2531
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:55,079
Speaker 5: And what according to ancient aliens?

2532
02:34:55,920 --> 02:34:59,000
Speaker 3: Theorists? Yeah, that's yeah. It's like really they have these

2533
02:34:59,079 --> 02:35:05,200
little it's that's it's too uh it's too uh uh

2534
02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:11,399
formula driven. And I don't really like formula driven things

2535
02:35:11,479 --> 02:35:16,239
that they go like, uh, this, what's that oak Island?

2536
02:35:16,399 --> 02:35:19,600
Is it oak Island? I take it look, if you

2537
02:35:19,799 --> 02:35:24,120
watched beyond two episodes, I actually pity you a bit.

2538
02:35:25,239 --> 02:35:29,360
If you watch beyond two episodes of that, maybe even

2539
02:35:29,479 --> 02:35:33,200
Skinwalker Ranch. You go me on three episodes of that

2540
02:35:33,360 --> 02:35:37,639
after they start launching skyrockets in the air, and it's

2541
02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:40,680
the same Trifield meter in every show, and I've kind

2542
02:35:40,719 --> 02:35:43,559
of like, this episode is kind of just like this

2543
02:35:43,760 --> 02:35:46,639
one and this one and this one. There's no variety,

2544
02:35:47,239 --> 02:35:51,399
it's no creative thinking. It's just line on a formula,

2545
02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:55,479
the exact formula. I never thought that way, you know.

2546
02:35:56,239 --> 02:36:01,559
I like that was pretty good. Yeah, they at least

2547
02:36:01,719 --> 02:36:06,000
traveled to different spots, and they did. It was always

2548
02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:08,200
a new spot, and I thought some of their stuff,

2549
02:36:09,040 --> 02:36:11,600
you know, it was pretty good. Some of it was

2550
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:15,719
kind of form you know, formula driven, but they at

2551
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:19,360
least want to do new areas, investigated new cases, and

2552
02:36:19,479 --> 02:36:23,200
they did try like I remember them using thinking. I

2553
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:27,399
think they used lighter radar on the site in Texas

2554
02:36:28,040 --> 02:36:33,600
of that nineteen twenty four UFO trash. I can't remember,

2555
02:36:33,719 --> 02:36:35,680
but they used the light ar at the graveyard, you know,

2556
02:36:35,719 --> 02:36:37,879
where they said the towns people buried.

2557
02:36:37,600 --> 02:36:40,799
Speaker 4: The groundbreaking stuff for that time.

2558
02:36:42,079 --> 02:36:46,440
Speaker 3: So Kenny goes I couldn't handle Oak Island. Oak Island.

2559
02:36:46,600 --> 02:36:49,159
It's like, yeah, it's kind of good, but you know,

2560
02:36:49,360 --> 02:36:52,319
you gotta have to be kind of gullible thinking because

2561
02:36:52,440 --> 02:36:55,079
each episode they ended with a new toothpick they found,

2562
02:36:56,239 --> 02:36:59,840
and so you're almost it's like, I guess, being in

2563
02:36:59,879 --> 02:37:02,040
the TV business, I knew the trick.

2564
02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:08,000
Speaker 5: And I'm like, yeah, it's like it's such an interesting topic.

2565
02:37:08,120 --> 02:37:09,200
Speaker 3: It is.

2566
02:37:09,639 --> 02:37:12,719
Speaker 5: I agree, and that's what they They keep dragging it out.

2567
02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:15,799
Speaker 3: And it's still going it's still going.

2568
02:37:17,319 --> 02:37:17,879
Speaker 5: Out a schedule.

2569
02:37:17,920 --> 02:37:21,680
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I always I don't want to

2570
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:24,120
I don't mean to offend anybody, but if you watch

2571
02:37:24,239 --> 02:37:28,200
that show, you're a very gullible person because you've done

2572
02:37:28,319 --> 02:37:30,200
You've fallen into their manipulation.

2573
02:37:30,440 --> 02:37:32,360
Speaker 4: What about blind Frog Rane, What do you think of

2574
02:37:32,440 --> 02:37:32,719
that one?

2575
02:37:33,079 --> 02:37:37,879
Speaker 3: I have not seen it. Okay, it couldn't. It's got

2576
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:40,799
to be better than skin Walker. And once again, the

2577
02:37:40,879 --> 02:37:45,000
formula for skin Walker is fine, but it can't. You

2578
02:37:45,159 --> 02:37:48,719
can't drag it on forever just cause it's a popular show.

2579
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:52,040
You can't do that. If you have any integrity, you

2580
02:37:52,200 --> 02:37:55,120
just can't keep saying the same crap over and over

2581
02:37:55,159 --> 02:37:57,959
and over again. There's no integrity, you know what I

2582
02:37:58,079 --> 02:38:01,760
mean to be like me doing a monster Quest episode

2583
02:38:03,319 --> 02:38:07,840
on Squid looking for a giant squid, like thirty forty, fifty, sixty,

2584
02:38:07,959 --> 02:38:11,319
seventy eighty times. You know, at some point people are

2585
02:38:11,399 --> 02:38:15,680
gonna go what you know? And then there's other people go,

2586
02:38:15,840 --> 02:38:18,159
oh my god, you ever see that Giant Squid show?

2587
02:38:18,280 --> 02:38:20,399
It's over, you know, and they get used to that

2588
02:38:20,559 --> 02:38:25,920
same routine because some people love the repeatability, they look

2589
02:38:26,040 --> 02:38:30,360
forward to the same formula. Maybe it's a way to relax.

2590
02:38:30,600 --> 02:38:33,879
I don't know, but I just personally would never produce

2591
02:38:33,959 --> 02:38:37,840
crap like that. Yeah, you know, it's just not my style.

2592
02:38:37,959 --> 02:38:42,520
But yeah, Doug make a Snell grow series. Yeah yeah,

2593
02:38:42,520 --> 02:38:45,799
we'll always be this close to getting the images of Bigfoot.

2594
02:38:47,639 --> 02:38:50,360
We'll leave it with a cliff inger every episode. Next season,

2595
02:38:50,799 --> 02:38:55,600
next season, yes, next season will hint.

2596
02:38:55,440 --> 02:39:00,559
Speaker 4: At so like when's the next season coming out?

2597
02:39:00,959 --> 02:39:04,959
Speaker 3: Exactly? So I just yeah, you know, I just I

2598
02:39:05,079 --> 02:39:06,920
have a bone to pick with some of those shows.

2599
02:39:08,159 --> 02:39:10,559
And I'm like, if you do want a couple of

2600
02:39:10,680 --> 02:39:12,799
creative ideas, I can get you through at least some

2601
02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:16,360
new stuff. But because it's the same thing, I was

2602
02:39:16,440 --> 02:39:18,879
like ten years of gone by and they're still launching

2603
02:39:18,959 --> 02:39:19,719
rockets in the air.

2604
02:39:21,680 --> 02:39:23,680
Speaker 4: What do you think they should have done it, Skinwalker,

2605
02:39:23,719 --> 02:39:28,600
that they didn't do Doug Skinwalker. Yeah, have taken it

2606
02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:30,959
from just a redundant fire and rockets into.

2607
02:39:30,799 --> 02:39:34,719
Speaker 3: The first thing you were You would take Richard Dreyfus

2608
02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:38,840
and you would tie them to a pole and put

2609
02:39:38,920 --> 02:39:41,479
honey all over them and leave.

2610
02:39:41,399 --> 02:39:44,760
Speaker 4: Them there for Richard three weeks.

2611
02:39:46,719 --> 02:39:48,719
Speaker 6: I would you would? You would? You would?

2612
02:39:49,159 --> 02:39:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would do that. I don't know. I've got

2613
02:39:53,639 --> 02:39:58,440
some ideas, But Walk you're dealing with probably pure normal.

2614
02:39:58,559 --> 02:40:01,959
Once you've established in said it's pureenormal, what really can

2615
02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:06,879
you do beyond a couple of nights investigation, You're not

2616
02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:09,959
going to get anything great. Anything you're gonna get that's

2617
02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:14,319
gonna be really amazing, you're just gonna exaggerate it and

2618
02:40:14,440 --> 02:40:15,159
exaggerate it.

2619
02:40:15,239 --> 02:40:17,639
Speaker 10: And it's just that I think when it was a

2620
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:21,520
Bigelow era Skinwalker Ranches, when it was its most fascinating.

2621
02:40:22,440 --> 02:40:25,760
Speaker 3: It was discovery. Yes, they were still in the process

2622
02:40:25,879 --> 02:40:29,559
of discovering some of the new stuff. And now it's

2623
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:32,520
just kind of the same, repeat, repeat, repeat of the

2624
02:40:32,600 --> 02:40:33,280
old stuff.

2625
02:40:35,120 --> 02:40:37,520
Speaker 4: There's munch of money off the same ideas.

2626
02:40:38,440 --> 02:40:44,479
Speaker 3: Like somebody's calling me during the show. Who is it?

2627
02:40:45,280 --> 02:40:48,719
I don't know. Is it Richard Dreyfus, it is, actually

2628
02:40:50,120 --> 02:40:54,000
it's it's it's Bull's mother telling me he's get the bed.

2629
02:40:54,840 --> 02:40:57,319
Speaker 4: And it's well, sorry, mom, I'll be there shortly.

2630
02:40:57,799 --> 02:41:02,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god. All right, all right, let's wind this up.

2631
02:41:03,920 --> 02:41:05,959
Thank you so much guys for coming on. It was

2632
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:06,399
just fun.

2633
02:41:07,040 --> 02:41:10,040
Speaker 4: Absolute Yeah.

2634
02:41:10,200 --> 02:41:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll never have you on again, but we're gonna

2635
02:41:12,360 --> 02:41:19,760
definitely have Scott. No, I'm joking. No, just if anything,

2636
02:41:19,840 --> 02:41:22,920
if anything happens out there, Bill, definitely come on back

2637
02:41:22,959 --> 02:41:24,920
on you. You know, you can always come on for

2638
02:41:25,079 --> 02:41:29,639
like five minutes. Just tell give us an update on

2639
02:41:29,719 --> 02:41:33,120
your little d we I love that stuff. Give us

2640
02:41:33,120 --> 02:41:35,159
an update. If something weird happens, I have you on

2641
02:41:35,360 --> 02:41:37,040
even you don't have to sit here for the whole

2642
02:41:37,120 --> 02:41:48,639
damn show. You want to, yes, which is involves something

2643
02:41:48,639 --> 02:41:54,639
to do with fish cuts probably chum. I what happens,

2644
02:41:55,000 --> 02:41:58,760
It could happen, It could happen. But now you guys

2645
02:41:58,840 --> 02:42:01,040
are both a joy to have on. We really appreciate it.

2646
02:42:01,120 --> 02:42:04,719
Let's do our wisdom. Hang tight, everybody, Yep.

2647
02:42:04,559 --> 02:42:07,680
Speaker 7: Don't go anywhere, be right back It's now time for

2648
02:42:07,840 --> 02:42:10,479
Untold Radio and Wisdom of the Week. We don't have

2649
02:42:10,559 --> 02:42:13,200
to conquer the wild, We only have to respect it

2650
02:42:13,360 --> 02:42:19,000
enough to share the world with wild things living beside Bears, cougars, wolves, coyotes,

2651
02:42:19,479 --> 02:42:24,200
and maybe even Bigfoot. Takes respect, not fear, give them space,

2652
02:42:24,760 --> 02:42:29,200
remove food temptations, protect pets, learn their behavior, and never

2653
02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:31,600
treat a wild animal or any living creature like a

2654
02:42:31,680 --> 02:42:32,440
tourist attraction.

2655
02:42:32,879 --> 02:42:33,319
Speaker 3: Good Night.

2656
02:42:33,440 --> 02:42:35,000
Speaker 1: We hope to see you all next week.

2657
02:42:35,600 --> 02:42:38,200
Speaker 7: If you like the show tonight, please consider giving us

2658
02:42:38,239 --> 02:42:41,440
a thumbs up, leaving a nice comment, and most of all,

2659
02:42:41,559 --> 02:42:44,600
subscribing and hitting the bell so you will be notified

2660
02:42:44,639 --> 02:42:46,040
when a new episode is dropping.

2661
02:42:46,879 --> 02:42:49,840
Speaker 1: Also, please share this episode. Now back to Doug and

2662
02:42:50,040 --> 02:42:51,000
Jeff for our rap.

2663
02:42:54,879 --> 02:42:58,280
Speaker 3: Did you guys notice that very realistic Bigfoot in the middle.

2664
02:42:58,079 --> 02:43:02,000
Speaker 4: Of that one tale? Was absolutely it was amazing.

2665
02:43:02,360 --> 02:43:03,959
Speaker 3: You could hardly tell it from real.

2666
02:43:04,280 --> 02:43:06,239
Speaker 4: I saw some eyeshine personally.

2667
02:43:07,719 --> 02:43:12,559
Speaker 3: Exactly. It sounds like people had We had kind of

2668
02:43:12,600 --> 02:43:17,200
a different show tonight. So it's fun talking about movies like.

2669
02:43:17,239 --> 02:43:21,920
Speaker 4: These, and you're all the weird stuff too, so it's great.

2670
02:43:22,559 --> 02:43:25,120
Speaker 3: He's like, no, I don't watch any movies it.

2671
02:43:25,079 --> 02:43:27,360
Speaker 4: Feels like the only weird thing is me.

2672
02:43:30,520 --> 02:43:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think we I think we covered ground.

2673
02:43:34,879 --> 02:43:37,280
And I finally got to say how much I disliked

2674
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:47,520
Disclosure Day. I'd platform did anybody else see Disclosure Day?

2675
02:43:47,879 --> 02:43:50,559
I didn't hear. I don't think anybody has. In chat.

2676
02:43:51,319 --> 02:43:53,159
Speaker 4: I thought about it. But now that you told me

2677
02:43:53,239 --> 02:43:53,680
how much.

2678
02:43:53,600 --> 02:43:57,639
Speaker 3: Of please Save save you old money, it's going to

2679
02:43:57,719 --> 02:44:03,479
be It'll be on Netflix quicker and you can say Amazon.

2680
02:44:04,040 --> 02:44:05,760
Speaker 5: I have a lot of friends who are a movie nerd,

2681
02:44:05,840 --> 02:44:08,040
the sci fi nerds, and I don't think I know

2682
02:44:08,120 --> 02:44:11,840
of anybody that enjoyed it. It was just universally panned.

2683
02:44:12,280 --> 02:44:15,399
Speaker 3: I loved Close Encounters. Yes, that was a great movie. Yeah,

2684
02:44:15,440 --> 02:44:19,000
I loved it. Actually enjoyed every second of it. Although

2685
02:44:19,639 --> 02:44:22,719
you got a little the you know, the the whole

2686
02:44:23,879 --> 02:44:26,280
journey to the to the mountain was a little bit

2687
02:44:26,360 --> 02:44:29,479
drawn out. I would have kind of maybe sped that

2688
02:44:29,600 --> 02:44:31,600
up a bit, you know, to get up to the

2689
02:44:31,719 --> 02:44:35,479
Devil's Tower thing. But it was a good movie.

2690
02:44:35,840 --> 02:44:38,959
Speaker 5: It was a good movie, all right.

2691
02:44:40,840 --> 02:44:43,479
Speaker 3: Jeff wants to go. By the way, there's a new

2692
02:44:43,559 --> 02:44:50,079
episode of What's the Dragon HBO Dragon that's the spin

2693
02:44:50,159 --> 02:44:56,399
off the Dragon, Oh, House of Dragons. Yeah, I'm getting

2694
02:44:56,639 --> 02:44:59,159
tomato in the back because he wants to go watch

2695
02:44:59,239 --> 02:45:02,520
an episode House, the newest one that just dropped tonight

2696
02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:06,000
of House of Dragons. So with that, we love you all.

2697
02:45:06,159 --> 02:45:10,719
Thank you so much. Bill. Yes, and it was really

2698
02:45:10,959 --> 02:45:13,479
it was it was, it was it was fun. Thank

2699
02:45:13,520 --> 02:45:16,680
you so much. Scott. You have my number, Scott. If

2700
02:45:16,719 --> 02:45:19,120
you need anything, God, let me know.

2701
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:20,879
Speaker 4: Absolutely will do.

2702
02:45:21,719 --> 02:45:29,600
Speaker 3: And thank you, Jeff, and thank to our amazing audience tonight.

2703
02:45:30,559 --> 02:45:33,120
We appreciate it, by the way, to see you know,

2704
02:45:33,319 --> 02:45:39,200
Facebook wouldn't let me post the show anywhere. Really, Yeah,

2705
02:45:39,319 --> 02:45:41,879
they just go, you know, certain shows that'd be my

2706
02:45:42,079 --> 02:45:47,280
one word that will trigger Facebook and they just like nope,

2707
02:45:47,360 --> 02:45:51,479
that's just like doesn't need community guidelines. Ridiculous.

2708
02:45:52,280 --> 02:45:54,680
Speaker 4: It's like what, Yeah, it's crazy.

2709
02:45:54,879 --> 02:45:57,200
Speaker 3: It's kind of weird. They don't tell you why, Like, okay,

2710
02:45:58,319 --> 02:46:00,799
it'd be fine if you told us why. Anyhow, I'm

2711
02:46:00,799 --> 02:46:03,440
gonna run tonight. Hed too much sleep. I'm gonna try

2712
02:46:03,479 --> 02:46:05,639
to get less sleep tonight. Good night. Everybody will love you.

2713
02:46:08,280 --> 02:46:12,000
Speaker 13: Call you up in the middle of tonight and bothered

2714
02:46:12,079 --> 02:46:16,840
by dreams and feeling all day, you give me comfort,

2715
02:46:16,920 --> 02:46:19,760
say just give it some time. By the end of

2716
02:46:19,959 --> 02:46:24,159
our talk and feeling just fine, you and I will

2717
02:46:24,280 --> 02:46:32,360
always know when we be long, they sing, no ordinary

2718
02:46:33,280 --> 02:46:35,040
we gotta go in all.

2719
02:46:39,159 --> 02:46:41,600
Speaker 2: I'll pick you up in the fifteen hour.

2720
02:46:41,799 --> 02:46:44,079
Speaker 13: Fo you head on down the road.

2721
02:46:44,440 --> 02:46:49,399
Speaker 3: Two we care for just you and the sudden going.

2722
02:46:50,120 --> 02:46:53,799
Speaker 13: If the elacious stop calling you head on home again.

2723
02:46:54,600 --> 02:46:57,520
Speaker 2: Everybody has chancey when.

2724
02:46:57,479 --> 02:46:58,760
Speaker 1: We be long.

2725
02:47:02,319 --> 02:47:06,440
Speaker 13: In order, very we can't go in all.

2726
02:47:08,680 --> 02:47:10,000
Speaker 10: At the end of the.

2727
02:47:10,120 --> 02:47:14,239
Speaker 2: World together forever is one in all ray.

2728
02:47:14,760 --> 02:47:18,120
Speaker 13: If ever you should be in town in our raid,

2729
02:47:18,639 --> 02:47:19,319
we never.

2730
02:47:19,639 --> 02:47:22,159
Speaker 2: Control us far in our way.

2731
02:47:24,280 --> 02:47:28,840
Speaker 13: For the time, I would be together every day.

2732
02:47:28,879 --> 02:47:31,799
Speaker 3: But I knows I never would.

2733
02:47:31,639 --> 02:47:36,520
Speaker 13: Be less straight up all way back home? Did you

2734
02:47:36,799 --> 02:47:59,159
work again? At the end of the world together forever

2735
02:47:59,360 --> 02:48:03,959
it is well alway it never you should be endowed

2736
02:48:04,079 --> 02:48:11,280
a couprate. They never composed a part in norway. At

2737
02:48:11,360 --> 02:48:17,680
the end of the world together forever fall and always thegether,

2738
02:48:18,159 --> 02:48:20,680
you should be endowed and outrage.

2739
02:48:21,079 --> 02:48:22,920
Speaker 8: They never composed a.

2740
02:48:23,120 --> 02:48:28,079
Speaker 13: Part in all way, but the time when.

2741
02:48:27,959 --> 02:48:33,959
Speaker 9: We beg together, we never retain those They never would

2742
02:48:34,040 --> 02:48:35,360
be less straight than

2743
02:48:35,559 --> 02:48:39,879
Speaker 3: All By the way back go to you again