Speaker 1: What is going on, bad rouge. Hope everybody's having a
great day today, I should say, what's going on Louisiana.
Wherever you are listening to that, I hope you're having
a great day today. We're out here in the wild
chilly a little bit. It's a nice, cool March morning
today probably going to turn into an absolutely stunning day
for golf. And we are here at U Club for
the U High Golf Tournament. So I miss you, Elandra
and Taylor. It sucks, you know, I got one day
back together for we're back on the road. But thank
you for holding him down back in the studio. Shout
out to her guy bo Wegman getting everything up and
running here. Good to go, bright and early in the morning. Uh, Jake,
we got a ton to get to on today's show.
The NFL news cycle was non stop yesterday. The New
Orleans Saints kind of do we nothing but at the
end of the day sneaking in at least one move
that we will get into. There's again, we could do
an entire show on an NFL free agency. I think
we kind of hit on every story a little bit.
I do want to kind of preview the SEC very
lightly as well later in the show. As we begin
conference play this week in ten weeks of competition, which,
by the way, you know we're always pushing for a
ninth SEC game. Yeah, I want twelve SEC baseball weeks.
I want to get rid of two of the preseason weeks.
I know coaches won't be into it. I know nobody
would our excuse me, I know that coaches would not.
I don't know about administrators because I don't know what
financially that looks like for most schools. But selfishly, as
a fan, I want to move to twelve weeks because
ten is not enough for how much fun those two
and a half months are.
Speaker 2: I could say at least eleven for sure. Something about
eleven's is too you No, it matches each other.
Speaker 1: No, the thirty three games compared to thirty six, like
it's I don't know. I think I gotta go twelve.
Speaker 3: But I was thinking at least eleven because like, did
you really need to see last weekend?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying you like, it's kind of got
a cupcake game sort of feel. We're like, all right,
let's let's go ahead. We've been edging long enough. I'm
ready for conference play, and here we sit on the
edge of it, so we will break it down. Of course.
We got a coach Kim Maulki Tuesday aight thirty, like
we always do. We got Nick Underreil Tuesday at nine
like we always do. We got a Taytay NFL story
of the day day medieval times is in the document
as well. So it's going to be a great day
to day. How you feel in Jakie? Uh? Not great?
Speaker 2: You know why you cold? Cause? No, Well, maybe we'll
see the first thing right there.
Speaker 1: Now I know I was gonna mess with you and
actually start the show there. Well we might as well.
Kyle Hughes Chick fullback fe eight year Niner, which sounds
weird to say that. That's it feels like it's longer.
T eight years is a long time, damn in a decade.
But I don't know, I'm just always I felt like
Kyle us Chick's always been a Niner. Forget he was
a raven in some way. Yeah, I definitely forgot that.
I had no idea, but Kyle's used Chick released by
the San Francisco forty nine ers, and it's a bit
like when the final White rhino died, and that you
know that this species is now extinct, never to come back.
The glory days are behind it. By the way, guys,
I don't actually think white rhinos are extinct, but you
get the point. He's a bit of a white rhino
and now he's a free agent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not great. It's not great.
Speaker 3: Bob saw the news, didn't know what to do with it.
Pour one out for your homie. He is the standard,
he's the guy. He's the one you kind of like. Yeah,
but there's use check. He's still there. You know, he's
still out there. Twenty one personnel making the Pro Bowl. Ye,
this this is not a good sign for the fullbacks. Gosh,
you have like what TEA two three, maybe that most
fans would know as quite.
Speaker 1: Oh that they would know. Yeah, I don't know that
I can name one Alex Armas still playing for anybody.
I'm just trying to think about hold Saints fullbacks that
have rotated through recently. I don't know, I mean, name one,
name one until see if I know. I mean recard
for the uh. I'm sure Taylor and Jordan would with
all their vast and deep fantasy knowledge.
Speaker 3: I think of all the former Saint fullbacks Burton. Mmm,
is that a made up nat it with a lack
of U with a lack of conviction there, Yeah to you,
I don't I don't know that I can say one
that I know you you would know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a tough day pouring up for the fullbacks.
But do you I mean, I don't know. Do you
think the Niners try to replace him?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: Apparently I read an article, not that I was concerned
about it, uh that they're going from twenty one personnel
heavy to twelve personnel what and bringing in another title
ultimate Betrayal? Yeah yeah, wow, wow, wow times they are
ever changed and.
Speaker 1: Gathery of full backs whatever? Well, because.
Speaker 2: That you would know before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I doubt it, but good luck. I
I wish you, uh, I wish you the best, am
I Timothy Shallame. Guys, should I have done that movie?
I don't know. You know, people are talking about it.
Speaker 2: I can go for the Dolphins. Did he just sign
a big contract two years ago?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, and a little.
Speaker 1: Bit a tickling of sorts perhaps if you will.
Speaker 2: That's just sad.
Speaker 3: What would you do? Is you chicken at land anywhere.
He said he still wants to play, So yeah, I
think you will. I don't know. I don't know how
many teams actually still run twenty one personnel Denver does
maybe saddle.
Speaker 1: Bringing him in there with Koobiac Cup there could that
could potentially be one would you think?
Speaker 2: What would would you be kind? I mean Harball might
Oh that's true?
Speaker 1: Oh man, how about that? There you go, you're too
large unit. Would you become a Saints fan if the
same signed Kyle us Chick?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, man, I mean that is my number one team,
Like I still root for the Saints if they're not
playing the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's spin the NFL wheel and then we'll
get into it from a Saints perspective yesterday. But I
think one of the reasons why I want to go
through some of these other moves is because yesterday was
a day filled with a lot of excitement for a
lot of fan bases, and then others like the Saints
and the cow Boys, maybe not so much. And I
want to start with one that might trigger Saint Sam's
a little bit because it's going to show you, really,
I believe how increasingly poor the Derek Carr contract continues
to age, and that's the Josh Allen deal. The Josh
Allen deal is interesting Jake, because it sounds massive. Six years,
three hundred and thirty million dollars, two hundred and fifty
million dollars guaranteed. He breaks to Sean Watson's two hundred
and thirty million record. I mean, the numbers that we're
dealing with, guys. At a certain point, it's like the
old stalling quote right one Deska tragedy of millions of
statistic Like these numbers don't mean anything anymore. It's insane
that we now sit at a time when I'm just like, oh, yeah,
this quarterback is getting two hundred fifty million dollars guarantee.
That's a quarter of a billion dollars, guys, And yet
here I'm going to tell you that it's a hometown discount.
He's like, well, how how is that possible? Well, it's
fifty five million dollars a year. But the thing you
have to look at is not just the raw annual value,
which I mean, to be fair, he was fourteenth in
annual value in quarterbacks in the league before this. Now
he is second. But the bigger deal is what percentage
of the cap does he represent at the time of signing.
And that's where it becomes interesting because with that massive
cap jump that the NFL just had, Josh Allen only
accounts for nineteen percent of the current cap. That is
thirteenth among active quarterbacks at the time of signing. For instance,
when Joe Burrow signed, it was twenty four percent of
the cap, When Jordan Love signed, it was twenty four
percent of the cap. When Derek Carr signed it was
seventeen percent of the cap. So Josh Allen essentially signed
for two more percent. Then you signed Derek Carr for which,
as we said yesterday, you are going to go to
the exact same Rigama role that you did this offseason
with him next offseason, as that contract is going to
be in albatross around your neck once again if you
try to get out from underneath it. And so you
have Derek Carr here, Josh Allen here nineteen percent. What
has Josh Allen done. Well, He's accounted for two hundred
and sixty touchdowns passing and rushing in his career. That
is the most in the first seven seasons in NFL history.
That is twenty nine more tuds than Patrick Mahomes, who
is second on that list. He's accounted for forty touchdowns
five straight years in a row. That's an NFL record.
No one else has even done at four straight. In fact,
Aaron Rodgers is the most ever with six seasons in total.
So here you have Josh Allen literally playing in an
NFL all time best level, and yet he was allotted
the same portion of the cap that the New Orleans
Saints gave Derek Carr. Yeah, turn the oof meter all
the way up on that one, boys, Oh my.
Speaker 2: Gosh, Like when you lay it out like that, it's
even more sad. Uh.
Speaker 3: Look, Josh Allen is somebody that I know a lot
of people still want him to win in the postseason.
I've been critical of him in the postseason, but I
mean the way he played this year is certainly not
his fault.
Speaker 2: Why they didn't move on.
Speaker 3: He's got a little bit of a Damn Marino feel
to him, right Oh yeah, go, I kicked myself off.
Uh Damn Reno feel to him right now, just because
I mean Dan Marino, you know, in the eighties and
early nineties, he's you know, setting every record you can
through the air, and they just they couldn't get over
that hump. They got to the Super Bowl early in
his career but never got back. So it's got a
little bit of that field to his career. But that's like, look,
that's something you'll pay for because he still gives you
an opportunity. He still gives you a chance. And so like,
his lack of winning a Super Bowl is not going
to hold me back from you know, changing my opinion
on him. I was like asking for more. He gave
us more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what you just laid out there with what.
Speaker 3: He didn't have around him this year, Like he did
not have stars in their prime this year. No, I
think about like Amari Cooper at the very end of
his career, is what he had he's had. You know,
Dalton king Kaid's a nice tiight end. He's certainly not
a game changer. I mean, they had a nice run
game with Cook, but he wasn't out there throwing to
a lot of the same guys that the other top
quarterbacks are throwing to. And he's still man. He put
his team on his back and almost got him to
a Super Bowl. So the deal's well worth it. But
then when you lay it out like that with who's
surrounding him as far as the percentage of the cab
gody that makes it sad well and I mean you
and and it's Josh Allen Like it's again, if you
get hooked on maybe the raw numbers, you're gonna be
saying that, Oh.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, you know he's he's like I guess some
would run the temptation of okay, you can't get over
the playoff hump. But is he Is he willing to
is he willing to take a discount? Is he willing
to help the team build?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Actually, yes, the answer is yes. He the bills that
managed us in a way in which he can both
get paid and not take up an extraordinary amount of
the cap going forward. Also, this idea that you can't
win a Super Bowl we painted quarterback is one that
we continue to see kind of fall flat on its
face in recent times. Right In fact, I was thinking
about this yesterday because you see the commanders going in,
going all in right now on Jayden Daniels. And it
makes sense, right because when you give an NFL GM
a great quarterback on a rookie deal, that's the equivalent
of sending them to Goodwood. Okay, they are ready for
action whenever and wherever. They can trade twice in a
row without even resting in between. That's how excited the
comedies are right now. But he got me thinking, how
many of these rookie deal quarterbacks, Jake have actually ended
up winning the Super Bowl? And it's not a lot.
Recently there was Russell Wilson. Yeah what thirteen? Yeah, and
then everybody's coming, Oh, this is the only way to
do it, but no one else did it besides maybe
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then he continued, Brady by accident. Yeah, but that's
what I'm saying. You got to go back even even
even even further. Oh you mean Brady in in in
Tampa or no, New England, Like he.
Speaker 3: Won on a rookie deal, but they didn't know that
because they had bloodsoe, so their money was still tied
up into a quarter I mean.
Speaker 1: Maybe you could say the win Snick Foles Eagle combination
year a little bit, even though that's such an odd
year in many different ways. Uh, But outside of that,
you've seen Patrick Rummes get paid they win, Jalen Hurts
get paid they win. So this Josh Allen deal is
a A plus deal from the Buffalo Bills that will
not hamper them, that will not hamstring them, and will
allow them to try to be as competitive as possible
in the future, whereas, again, the Derek Carr deal is
an abject disaster in many ways, even though I'm relying
on Coach Tieth to maybe prove us wrong here and
get the most out of Derek Carr.
Speaker 2: Coach Tief.
Speaker 1: That's what the internet is calling Kellen Moore due to
those big old choppers he's got on display every time
he talks. I stole that from uh Saints Twitter. To
be clear, I don't know who originally said it, but
it's funny as hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess I knew as soon as
you did say it who you were talking about. He
does have some uh some large teeth.
Speaker 1: Somebody yesterday tweeting coach Thief's just uh, you know, I
think expressing some displeasure. Say, it's looking like coach Tief
is just Dennis Allen with bigger teeth. Now now again,
we'll see, We'll see. Okay, that's not completely fair to
Kellen Moore. We kind of knew what Dennis Allen was
when he was hired and he proved to be that.
We still don't know what Kellen Moore is going to be. Uh. Now,
let's do this. Let's go to break. When we get back,
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Saints did make and what it means for your guy,
Brandon Staley that defense, as well as a million other
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I mentioned the New Orleans Saints before we get there. Well,
I mentioned thoughts and prayers to all the fan bases
who did nothing yesterday, Because no NFL segment is complete
without talking about the Cowboys. A fun fact from the
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Speaker 2: The last time the.
Speaker 1: Cowboys signed a free agent for more than six million
dollars a year was twenty fifteen, and it was crag Hardy.
That's right. It has been a decade since the Cowboys
have done anything in free agency. The salary cap in
the interim decade has increased by one hundred and thirty
six million dollars. Now on the Roam Show, I said
that I thought that Jerry was playing a bit of
possum here.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 1: You know, methinks the lady doth protest too much when
he was say we're not gonna do anything, We're not
gonna do anything, thinking he had something big up his sleeve.
I don't think that's right. I think I'm already very
wrong on that. Because this is a weaker free agent class.
It's one of the reasons why you see teams re
signing guys to bigger deals than you would have expected.
We'll get to one with these Saints maybe in a
a second. And really all the big names are kind
of off the board, like there's not too many big
names out there the Cowboys could sign that would make
a big splash, and so missed shot there. Tata, How
are we feeling about about your boys going into this
next portion of the NFL offseason?
Speaker 5: Pretty much like I do every off season. Disappointed but
not surprised, pointed but not surprised.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is Sarah. I mean, I think
Saint Sam's are in a very similar vein And speaking
of moves that the Saints made or didn't make yesterday,
they lose Pulse in a Deebo signs a three year,
fifty four million dollar deal with the Giants, which you know,
I mean, I don't know, I'm not I'm not too
pressed about that. I think a Deebo's been good. But
do you are you in a position right now where
you could pay Pulse in a deebo eighteen million dollars
a year. You still got a lot of Teke Taylor,
You still got kool Aid McKinstry, like, that's one of
the reasons why you drafted kool Aid. So, uh sure,
it's not ideal, but I think you got out priced there.
One guy you did re sign yesterday, and really it
was probably the biggest piece of as news, maybe even
more so than Devon Godshaw. Uh is you re sign
Chase Young to a three year, fifty one million dollar deal?
Sack Concientives can put you in fifty seven. It's a
seventeen million dollars signing bonus. It sounds like a big
number the average annual value though Jake has him as
the seventeenth highest paid edge defender, And I guess the
question immediately becomes do you think that move is worth it.
Five and a half sacks last year not that.
Speaker 2: Good, which is sixtieth in the NFL.
Speaker 1: However, you're wondering he did have forty seven pressures, which
was seventh in the NFL. So it this sack number
maybe not telling the the whole story. But to me, Jake,
this is simply a deal where the cowboys making fun
of me. The Saint look that it's it's kind of
a desperate mode. You have so many holes on the roster,
you're trying to plug them wherever you can. And even
though you, let's say you arguably overpaid a bit, like
what's the other option? Do you let young walk? And
then what do you have? What do you have coming
off the edge? Granderson Jordan, I mean, you're not getting
anything out of Fosky, so like you already need pass
rushing help. I don't think that you can afford to
let the guy who was seventh in the NFL and
pressures out of the building. Now now, I think obviously
you're gonna need more production. You need more of those
pressures to get home next week. So you hope that
Brandon Staley can take advantage of that brand, He said,
almost doesn't count. Yeah, yeah, but but again but like
do you do you but would you have let Young walk?
Because then I feel like you're overall in a worse spot.
Speaker 3: All right, So I do think this is too much
money for Chase Young, But I do understand what you're
saying about where you're at, who you could have brought
in because of where you're at, just with the resources
you have available. The only thing if I'm trying to
beat glass half full, because I got to be honest,
when I saw this, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Love any part of it. I mean, he only forced
one fumble, you.
Speaker 3: Mentioned the five and a half sacks, only twenty one
solo tackles, so that there's not a lot there to
be overly excited about outside of the pressures. But in
a Brandon Stay defense, you do have to have versatile
defensive linemen. You have to be able to count on
the front four getting home like you have to.
Speaker 2: It is a part of what his defense is.
Speaker 3: He's not He'll show pressure, but he's not going to
bring pressure, and so you have to have defensive linemen
that you can count on.
Speaker 2: And that's why you see the first.
Speaker 3: Day of really the first couple of days and all
the movement around the Saints has been really strictly on
the defensive line. Yeah, you've traded for some, you've re
signed some, and that's because they understand what Brandon and
Staley's defense is all about. And so in their mind
they're like, all right, well we can be versatile with
Chase Young Cam Jordan.
Speaker 2: You know, depending on what happens, he can kick inside.
We've seen him do that.
Speaker 3: And so they're just trying to stockpile all these defensive
linemen that they feel like can do different things. But
just know that if you're in that defense, you have
to be superman. You do like the front four of
a Brandon Stalely defensive line or front three with two
outside backers, it turns into a five man front. They
have to go above and beyond because you're not going
to get pressure from other places.
Speaker 1: And it looks like they're trying to give Staley some
of the pieces Davon Godchow we talked about yesterday, kind
of the the centerpiece of a lot of these moves,
giving you that kind of three four nos. And again,
Godha has always been an interesting three four nos because
he's not your like giant space sater a lla Evince
will Fork, But honestly, it's something he's been doing since college.
Even in that Dave Randa system back in the day.
He was an undersized guy they put there because he
couldn't be blocked one with the sinner, so try. I mean,
so look, Kellen Moore and and and granted, all of
this speaks to the continued hamstringing of building this roster
thanks to cap management and all the mistakes and whatnot
that Mickey Lewis and the crew have made up to
this point. Uh, because you're you're, you're just you're having
to do what you can. And so that's why you
end up signing Chase Young. You're you're you bring in
a guy like Godshaw, who is again not not not
a world beater, but solid. It's it's an improvement there
to a new defensive coordinator that's going to want that
position to improve. I don't know that any of it.
Here's the deal. Uh, maybe it makes you slightly better,
but how much is eventually the question, And a lot
of that's just gonna come down to, Like, it just
feels weird. It feels like this new staff is going
to you have to prove that the coaches were a
lot of the problem last season because they're going to
have a lot, if not almost all, of the same pieces,
and yet they're going to be expected to do more
with said pieces.
Speaker 3: And so you look at you know, re signing Nathan Shephard,
got y'all trade, like we're talking about like all these
moves are kind of pointing to what we're talking about
building the defensive line because you know you need them.
But also, like, what does this say about Brian Brazi? Yeah,
how you view him in your future plans? You spend
a first round pick on him, right, I know it's
a back end of the first round, but you still
like you had a resource into him as a player.
Do we feel like the new staff watch the tape
and you know, look, they know who the player is.
I mean, nobody in the league goes into a job
where they don't know the players. They obviously know him.
I'm sure they did a deep dive whenever he was
coming out. It just kind of tells me that they
don't love where he's at in his development.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's fair to say. He's
certainly someone that flashes but is not good against the run,
which is something he's gonna be relied upon to improve
vastly at and well the past.
Speaker 2: Us gets him.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he still could be better in that regard as well.
Now you could also say that, look for Calmore took
the job, the thing that he talked about, and think
that every coach does. You know, it all starts up front.
And look at the success we utter the Eagles because
the offensive and the defensive lines. And so this is
a a commitment to that theory. But again, the guys
you have are not the guys that you had when
you were in Philly when you look at just the
the the the all stars that they had all over
that defensive front, all over that offensive front. And so
maybe this uh who knows, Maybe this TEAMU, O line
and D line that the Saints are going to be
putting on the field this fall, maybe these coaches can
get more out of them. But I think objectively, you
look at yesterday, You look at the teams, like the
Commanders who are out there celebrating, the Steelers who are
out there celebrating you. I mean, even the Rams making
some interesting moves. Like you look all around and other
fan bases have things that cheer about and get better about.
I think the Saints are firmly in the category of
fan bases that kind of felt like they were just
sitting on their hands yesterday and not a lot of
excitement to be gained.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again it's all kind of going to one
position group and so maybe they can branch out and
I know, you reset one of your receivers, but that's
not gonna be a lead story either. But at least
they're identifying like what they need within a new scheme, right,
because there's sometimes when they haven't done that. And Brian
Berzi sold somebody that's like twenty three years old, and
he showed a lot of promise like early in the season,
but finished the season four games did not have a sack.
So he had seven and a half in the first
thirteen games. And you're thinking you maybe turn that corner.
But I mean, you're right about the run defense portion
of it. But uh, there's not going to be a
signing that the Saints make that's going to be as
exciting as what some of these other teams are doing.
That's why you're in cap You're in cap hell, and
you know you can't make those moves and so at
least they are making moves to try to solidify some
of the changes with the new coaches that they're bringing on.
Speaker 2: It's really all they can do right now.
Speaker 3: Like, if you're a Saints fan and you're wanting to
get excited, you're probably going to have to wait minus
the probably to the end of April in the NFL
Draft and hope that they don't screw that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Which there's a lot of smoke around maybe the
Saints going quarterback now in the draft whatever though you
could you could write stories about the Saint quyn anywhere
in the draft. But yeah, April now, exactly like Jake said,
your attention's kind of now firmly to April. Any potential
excitement that that could bring.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: For what this is worth, the Saints are now under
the salary cap as Carl Granderson, Caesar Rees and Kaal
and Sanders all restructure their contracts. They have about thirteen
million dollars in cap space. There could be some more
moves made, but basically all of the kind of simple
restructure voidable deals kick the can moves are now in
the barn. Like those moves are done and they are
under the cap for whatever that's worth, which is unfortunately
kind of not much.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, Paulson Diebo signs with
the Giants basically for what you signed Chase Young for.
Which player next season would you have rather had under
the three year, fifty plus million dollar deal.
Speaker 1: I think I think probably Chase Young. I think I
think I think d line means more to this team,
because again, you still have resources in those other areas, Like, Okay,
you lose a debo, but you still have Alante Taylor,
you still have kool Aid. You lose Chase Young, and
who do you have left? There is no one that
he's playing ahead of that you feel good about playing. Like,
even if you think that Chase Young underperformed, who do
you feel is on that roster there that will performer
perform as well as Street? Yeah, exactly right, exactly the.
Speaker 2: First and second rounder.
Speaker 1: The backups are not made the same in that regard,
So we don't cry. Yeah, basically all right, when we
get back here on off the bench, let's go back
to some of these other NFL moves.
Speaker 2: There's a ton to get into.
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Speaker 4: Com, Welcome back to more sports talk. What's some other
stuff mixed in off the bench with Hester and t Bomb?
Speaker 2: All right, what's happening to you all?
Speaker 1: Welcome back to OTB. We are going through some of
the NFL moves from yesterday. Maybe one of the funnier
moves is the Miles Garrett saga. As Miles Garrett say, look,
I don't care about money, I don't care about Canton.
I care about championships. And I've given eight years of
my life to Cleveland and we are in a worse
spot than we even were when I got here. I
demand to be traded. I'm willing to miss games to
be traded. And the Brown say no, We're absolutely not
trading you. And he was said, well, okay, let me
talk to HASLM. Haslm says no, I'm not even gonna
meet with you. Talk to the GM. And at this
point I thought for sure that Miles Garrett would would
would would take this thing, this game of chicken, all
the way right, and he'd be willing to sit out
and reilling to force his way out. However, you can
say it's not about the money, and it's kind of
one of those situations where okay, it wasn't until it was.
And then the Cleveland brown say, okay, Miles, well what
if we made you the highest paid non QUARTERBACKFL history?
And we did it by a wide margin, as Max
Crosby just eclipped Justin Jefferson with that title, getting thirty
five million dollars a year, only for Miles Garrett to
now have a contract worth forty million dollars a year,
and all of a sudden, Miles is back in that's right,
staying in Cleveland at least another four years. It would
look like and here's the Lol Browns fact of the day.
The Cleveland Browns. Who again, guys, if you think the
Saints are bad, they're worse. The Cleveland Browns come the
first team in NFL history with two players on the
roster making forty million dollars or more per season.
Speaker 3: Oh good, yeah, I translated to what three or four
wins exactly mean?
Speaker 2: Hey, how could you not invest.
Speaker 3: It is wild, like some of the comments that he had,
It's like, no, if we make it the highest pay
not quarterback, ever, I bet you love being a Cleveland Brown.
Like I ain't mad at him either, I mean dollars
per year, But my god, what is the plan for
the Browns?
Speaker 1: I mean, cause that's that's the thing, right, That's like
where people are talking about do you take a do
you take Abdul Carter or do you take a quarterback?
And objectively, Carter's better than the quarterbacks. But I just
keep looking at the Cleveland example where it's like, Okay,
you took Miles Garrett first overall and he has been
as good as a first overall pick, could possibly be
a five time All Pro back to back Randon Fensive
Player of the Year, and you got nothing. So it's
almost like I feel like, because not all positions are
created equally, even if you don't fully believe that, if
you have a chance to take QB one, you almost
have to take QB one. But otherwise well, but then again,
I guess the count argument there would be, well, it's
the Browns, and not all teams would have wasted Miles
Garrett in the same way. Taite, What do you think
this does for Micah Parson. You're looking forward to to
battling with that Miles Garrett contract.
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday.
Speaker 5: It just seems like anytime an NFL team like waits
to pay their superstar, they wind up costing themselves so
much more money. You're better off just getting it done now.
They should have done this last year before they got
the CD deal done, because Jamar Chase is still not
paid yet.
Speaker 1: They could have.
Speaker 5: Paid CD now Jamar still makes more than him. It's
not I mean, it's not looking good because they just
gave a defensive tackle an eighty one million dollar contract.
And I mean, yeah, they have fifty six million dollars
worth of the cap space, but are they gonna use it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the long term future Michael Parsons
is well.
Speaker 2: And I think you hit on a great point, Tatay.
Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons why Roseman and the
Eagles have been so good is instead of chasing the market,
they set the market and then let everything else fall
where it may. Right. They did it with Zach bond.
They said it would say kwon Barkley and now they
don't have to work like like Jamar Chase's price just
probably went up because of this, right because he's gonna
want to be the highest paid non quarterback.
Speaker 2: In the NFL and a half.
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson's price probably just went up after the Crosby
and Miles Garrett deal. So again, I'm with you, man,
getting ahead kind of taking the initiative is the ideal
way to do it, even if you feel like you
may be overpaying in the short term. If you wait
too long, you're gonna end up overpaying in the long term.
Uh was the dk Metcalf move actually the biggest move yesterday?
I mean, you got Geno Smith, you got Sam Donald,
you got in.
Speaker 2: A lot of others.
Speaker 3: How about like, how about Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield
both getting new contracts that are over one hundred million
dollars when they were both on the Panthers a couple
of years ago and everybody was clowning the Panthers. Sure,
having Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield again.
Speaker 1: It shows you that the actual organizations here matter just
as much as the players. It's a reason why I
can't help but look at the Justin Fields to the
Jets signing and laugh because the Jets have been god awful.
Speaker 2: Like here's let's say.
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, which people may argue with, but let's say
Mark Sanchez is the last good Jets quarterback. Since that moment,
you've had Gino Smith, Michael Vick, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty,
Josh McCown, Sam Darnold, Joe Flaggo, Zach Wilson, Mike White,
Trevor Sitting, and Tim Boyle and Aaron Rodgers all Star games.
And you're gonna tell you that Justin Fields that hasn't
done anything, that he's gonna be the guy that's like suddenly,
it's it's it's it's a double negative. Two bad things
are gonna make a positive. I just I don't I
don't see it. So, yeah, the the organizations are a
big piece of that. But that's probably why the Metcalf
news is the biggest to me, because the Steelers already
one of the more competent and maybe the most like
competent organization in the NFL one of certainly, and although
they don't technically know who their quarterback is going to be,
whoever it is is now better for having DK Metcalf
regardless of what ends up happening with George Pickens or whatnot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see if they run it back and try
to bring rust back. I mean justin field to somebody
that I think could have found a home that was
a little bit better as far as offensively the scheme
and what he does well and what it's trying to
get done. But sure, Jets just keep on trying to
find who your quarterback's going to be. I just don't
love the fit there. But for the Steelers, the offense
is gonna look different now. Naji Harris now with the
Chargers and so like that was a guy that you
always was one of the league leaders in carries. Are
they trying to maybe get away from strictly running the football?
I mean they got an offenseive coordinator that loves to
run the football. Like, but getting rid of Naji Harris, Like,
what is the offense going to be? What is the
identity going to be? Now you have two receivers that
are going to want targets, They're going to want their catches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only time will tell. And Arthur Smith is
the guy in charge of it. All which maybe feels
not like it feels like statistically you maybe won't get
some of the seasons that you're hoping for. Jake on
the way out here, was it due to you, as
a longtime NFL player to see Justin Fields sign for
thirty million dollars guaranteed, two years, forty million, thirty million
guaranteed and he hadn't done anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in the NFL. It's a fair question.
Speaker 3: But I've become numb to that a long time ago,
Like I always say, it was you know, I'd be
somebody that started five of my six years and the
fourth receiver on the team who had like eleven career
catches would be making double what I was making.
Speaker 2: So like you just gotta have to get used to it.
Speaker 3: Are the tenth guy on NBA bench who nobody knows,
not even like the core fans of his team know
he's making like nine million a year, right, And so
in football is way more po popular than the NBA.
But it's something you have to get used to, like
I said, a little numb to it because it happens
literally all the time.
Speaker 1: All right. When we get back, maybe touched in a
couple more of these NFL stories also big recruit coming
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living all right. LSU on the recruiting trail just locked
up a visit with one of the nation's top cornerbacks,
Haveyn Finny so Kat out of California. He was the
number two cornerback in the twenty twenty seven class. He
reclassified to twenty twenty six. He is a four star consensus.
Rivals has him as a five star if you care
about such things, for whatever that's worth. And Finny after reclassifying,
now ranks is thirteen quarterback in that twenty sixth class.
But LSU is locked up a visit. He'll be on
campus in late June for an official. He took an
unofficial to Batan Rouge in April. He's visited USC, Oregon.
You're competing with A and M Tennessee, Texas the other
aforementioned schools as well, and check this out. Jake on
three gives you a fifty eight percent chance of signing
Haven Finney. How in the world do you arrive at
a fifty eight percent chance? I don't know, you know,
it's funny and my score book, I had it scored
as a fifty three, So hearing that it's fifty eight
makes me a bit more bullish on Finny as it
looks like he might be fittin me come here fitting
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, look at fifty eight.
Speaker 1: Look Corey Ravens landed five stars out of Cali before
at Corner obviously Eli Rix back in twenty twenty. Maybe
Corey can and do it again. Now, for what it's worth,
that LSU twenty twenty six class looking good, even though
to're early third in the nation. And if you were
to lock up Fitty in that boat, well, it would
it would It would just increase.
Speaker 3: That Yeah, I mean you got one last year obviously,
a five star and picket. So like you're wanting to
add more of those type of players to your roster
through high school recruiting. And it's a position group that
really since this current staff has been there, they've had
to piece together through the portal.
Speaker 2: Now with good players.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they like piece together with bad players,
but you do want to build that foundation back where
you can be very selective if you want to add
a corner or a safety through the portal. You don't
have to add. They had to add over the last
three four seasons at that position. So the foundation. If
you can get that back right, which this sounds like
a player that could do that, that's the most important thing,
all right, Coming.
Speaker 1: Up next hour here on OTB, we got SEC Baseball,
we got OTB mailbag, we got coach Ken Maulkey. Keep
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