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Special thank you 13 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:35.079 to doctor Chris Hill live in studio for an entire hour. Earlier, 14 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:37.880 Bill Riley voiced theut stop by Curtis of our friends 15 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:38.840 at Handy and Handy. 16 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:41.359 Our next guest. We've been working on this for a 17 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:41.960 little while. 18 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:47.200 Former RSL general manager and good friend Elliott Falls live 19 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:47.799 in studio. 20 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:49.759 Elliet, good to see you, man, How are you great? 21 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:51.000 I'm great, great to see you. 22 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.119 I know you're great now because we had a little 23 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:57.320 Ed Sheeran bumping us in, so that's used Jeff. 24 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:59.240 Yeah, oh that was, I mean, and it was it 25 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.520 was perfect. Good one's that's a banger. So for our 26 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:05.040 listeners that have no clue. Elliot and I play golf 27 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.400 together from time to time. He is a very good player. 28 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.239 I've learned a lot just watching him play. 29 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:11.920 And we both have our like speakers going to the 30 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.319 same time, so it's like rival music. And we have 31 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.840 pretty similar tastes in music. But occasionally I'll notice, like 32 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:22.319 a shaggy song or something. 33 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:24.239 I don't think you've ever heard a shaggy song. But 34 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:26.840 that was when Trey's phone started ringing. 35 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.159 It happened. Oh, that would be so sick if that 36 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:29.799 was his rent town. 37 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.200 But one day I'm getting ready to tee off and 38 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:35.120 I'm like, is that Ed Sharon in the background? Castle 39 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:36.799 on the Hill? And let me be clear, that's a banger. 40 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:38.159 It's a good song. I just didn't know you were 41 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:38.799 an Ed Sharon n. 42 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.879 You know, you find us, you find some space, and honestly, 43 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:43.400 when you're when you're out on the golf course for 44 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:45.480 a while, you gotta you gotta change it up. 45 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:47.959 You can't just have the same same old, same old. 46 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:48.760 Oh this is true. 47 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:52.239 And you can't give Trey the the control. You can 48 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:54.359 never give Trey the control. Let's be clear about that. 49 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.040 How good do you think you are a golf. 50 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:01.439 Not very good right now. I haven't been playing well lately. 51 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:02.319 That's not true. 52 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:06.519 Like do you think if you allocated time and energy 53 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.439 to just you get a great coach? 54 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:12.840 You're playing every day, which you kind of do anyway, 55 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:14.759 you're hitting balls all the time. 56 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:18.240 Some people think so you're but but you genuinely try 57 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:20.960 to be as good as you possibly can. Sure, how 58 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:22.560 good do you think you could be? Because you're close 59 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.120 to a scratch? I know you say you're not, but 60 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:24.479 you are. 61 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:30.560 Uh yeah, I don't know. I think I could get 62 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:36.439 to a plus handicap, but I don't. You know, certainly 63 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:41.240 nowhere near you know, the the great players you see, 64 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:45.199 you know in some places played I've played around. I mean, 65 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:48.599 it's always humbling when you play with really good golfers. 66 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:49.639 And I've played around. 67 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:51.879 You know this. 68 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:54.400 A few of us like to play the Nibley Men's 69 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:57.800 League indeed, and Nibley's a fun place and you know, 70 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.199 shout out to Andrew Meacham and he the pro there. 71 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:02.039 He does an unbelievable job. It's a lot of fun. 72 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:06.599 Cool men's league. Fridays we go out in the club Championship. 73 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:08.240 None of my friends played with me, so I had 74 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:09.960 to play. I got paired up by myself for a 75 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.719 couple of us to have jobs. Elliott, it was a 76 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:16.479 Saturday and Sunday. Your job does but to qualify for 77 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:17.840 that have to play on Fridays. 78 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:20.240 And I did the best I could. I'm not even 79 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.719 talking about you. You're okay, well, I think friends. I 80 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.759 hurt my feelings, but you retired early and we'll get there. 81 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:27.759 But anyway, as you were a club. 82 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.000 Championship anyway, you know, I got paired with a couple 83 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:34.120 guys and you know, they they clean the clean my 84 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.639 clock in the club championship. I mean, you know, And 85 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:40.319 I've actually played with him a couple of times since. 86 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:42.840 And you know, the one guy went out and shot 87 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:44.439 five under this week at Nibbley. 88 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.560 Who are these people? They're just good golfers, like college guys. 89 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:53.240 College They're they're about my age. 90 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:54.159 See. 91 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:56.639 It always depresses me every time I feel like I'm 92 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:58.479 improving a little bit to hear that there are so 93 00:03:58.520 --> 00:03:59.680 many people that are so much. 94 00:03:59.560 --> 00:03:59.919 Better at this. 95 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.960 There's yeah, there's there's there's a lot of good golfers 96 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:03.280 out there. 97 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.080 There's a lot of good golfers in the state of Utah, 98 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:05.439 there is. 99 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:07.759 I'm better now than I was when we first started 100 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:10.560 playing together. At least give you that certainly. Okay, you're 101 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:12.960 not a bad golfer. I don't think I'm a bad golfer. 102 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.639 You're a good golf Sorry, I should I should be 103 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:17.519 I should be more clear you were a good golfer. 104 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:18.800 Well, that's kind of you to say. 105 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:21.480 But you know, just when you think you're good, you 106 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.399 play with somebody like our guys steal the Walt my guy. 107 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:26.759 Sure. Yeah. And did you play against him when you 108 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:30.360 were a Judge? Yeah, no, I think no, I think 109 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:30.959 he was the same. 110 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:33.120 I mean, I think I think we over I mean, 111 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.600 I only played two years at Judge, but I'm pretty sure. 112 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:39.199 Because he went to Park City. I'm ninety nine pretty sure. 113 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.720 I think we overlapped at least one year, if not, okay, 114 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:43.639 if not both years. 115 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.319 It was wild watching him play and watching and watching 116 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:52.040 you like watching golfers like him like problem solve It's yeah, 117 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.160 they think of things that you would even would not 118 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:54.959 even consider. 119 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:56.879 Yeah, there's so many aspects of the game that are 120 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:01.000 to challenge you, right, and like that, if you're if 121 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:04.560 you're not proficient at you're you're gonna fall apart. Like 122 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:06.800 you if you sure you can have a great swing. 123 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:10.720 If you can't chip a ball, you're done. Yeah, if 124 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.199 you can't make a five footer, you're done. You you 125 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.160 undo all the good work you do get in there. 126 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.680 Yeah. It's a tough game, man. It humbles you, it 127 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:20.240 really does. 128 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.040 And you know, at least for me, and I think 129 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:25.920 this this goes for most golfers. As soon as you 130 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.079 as soon as you feel like you've found something you've 131 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.199 you lose it. You lose whatever it is, or you 132 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:33.839 lose something else. I mean, it's it's a it's a 133 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:35.079 tough game, but that's what makes it fun. 134 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:37.000 Yeah, yeah, it's it's quite a challenge. 135 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:37.399 Uh. 136 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:39.959 This weekend, I was back in Indianapolis with my brother 137 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.879 and we played this great track. Four of the holes 138 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.439 are actually in the Indy five hundred racetrack. 139 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:47.319 I've heard of that. It's really cool. 140 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.360 Front nine and I'm not sure I've ever done this before. 141 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:53.360 I birdie two of the first five holes. All right, 142 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.759 then we're on a par three. We're about one seventy 143 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:59.360 eight out. I wrote my seven iron. I'm like, that 144 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.800 is it? Hit it within three feet? I'm like okay, 145 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:04.639 this could be your third BIRDI in the first six sols. 146 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.279 I don't know that I ever shouldn't have thought that correct, 147 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.920 because what I did was I pulled a two and 148 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:11.920 a half foot or for Birdie tapped in for part, 149 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:13.680 and then I melted down. I think I shot a 150 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:15.560 I think I shot a thirty eight on the front 151 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:17.720 and then a forty eight on the back because I 152 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:19.279 was in my head about that Birdie putt. 153 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:24.079 It's yeah, it's I mean, the best thing you needs 154 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.199 impossible to do, but certainly all the time. But the 155 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:28.639 best thing you can do for your score is to 156 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.720 not know what your score is. I mean, it's if 157 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.240 you know where you are, that's when it gets in 158 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.519 your head and you start playing defensive and yeah, your 159 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.560 toast and like like you said, you got a three 160 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.720 footer and you're like, oh man, I just got to 161 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:44.600 make this day, and it's you know, and you know what, 162 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.480 you know, what's what's crazy about it is we talk 163 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.439 about this and then you watch the pros on. 164 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.639 The weekend some of them do the same thing. 165 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.120 Yeah, and like we talk about how going out, you know, 166 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.279 you end up playing with a with a great player, 167 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:00.600 don't you think all the PGA forre guys who end 168 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:02.959 up getting paired with with Scotty Scheffler these days feel 169 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.639 the same way. Yeah, it's like I'd feeling good about myself. 170 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:08.120 I just won a tournament. Oh now I gotta play 171 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:08.839 Scotty Schefler. 172 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:09.079 Yeah. 173 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.000 No, it's funny you referend Scotty because I just pulled 174 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.560 this up because you know, I didn't used to. 175 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.439 Well, I never played golf growing up. 176 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.160 I got into it over the past few years, and 177 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:20.399 playing with people like you and getting better equipment and 178 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:21.800 taking lessons has helped. 179 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.480 But I never really covered it either. But it's such 180 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:25.639 a behemoth. 181 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.839 Now if you're in this space, you better become familiar 182 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:30.560 a little bit at least with what's going on in 183 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:32.600 the world of golf. And so I cover it in 184 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:34.879 a way that I used to, and I bring it 185 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.279 up in this context. I didn't cover it when Tiger 186 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:41.199 was Tiger, which honestly depresses me because I've read I've 187 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.680 read the book, and I've watched the documentary like ten times, 188 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.560 and if the Golf Channel ever shows like hey, Tiger 189 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.480 Highlights coming up, I'm recording it and I'm watching all 190 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:51.600 of it. I really wish I was watching and covering 191 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.759 it when Tiger was Tiger, But because I didn't, and 192 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:56.800 now I'm covering it in a different way, I do 193 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:58.959 this thing where I'm like, it feels like Scotty's having 194 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.319 this Tiger like run, and then you pull up these stats. 195 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:05.680 So I was gonna say something like, you're going heading tours, 196 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:06.600 go ahead, well, and. 197 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.360 I actually honestly want your thoughts. 198 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:13.480 So Scotty just became the first golfer since Tiger to 199 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:17.399 have two straight seasons of five wins or more on tour. Sure, 200 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.480 and it's only Scotty and Tiger over the past forty years. 201 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:23.279 So Scotty has done it once, Yeah, twenty twenty four 202 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:25.800 and twenty twenty five. So I heard like, oh, first 203 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.319 since Tiger. Okay, well, then he's having this Tiger like run. 204 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:31.600 Tiger did it in ninety nine, two thousand, two thousand, 205 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.639 two thousand and one, two thousand and one, two thousand 206 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.639 and two, two thousand and three, two or two thousand 207 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:37.840 and two, two thousand and three, two thousand and five, 208 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.000 two thousand and six, two thousand and six, two thousand 209 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:44.200 and seven. He did it six times. He's back to 210 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:46.879 back seasons with five or more wins on tour. Tiger 211 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.799 did it six times, Scotty's done it once. They're the 212 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:51.519 only golfers in forty years to do it. 213 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.240 If you want to, if you want to, if you're 214 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.279 feeling good about yourself on the golf course, go read 215 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:59.480 some Tiger stats and you will really humble yourself. Yeah, 216 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:03.600 but I mean they're just the most unbelievable, the one 217 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:05.559 about you know, Scotty's been number one in the world 218 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.879 for what three straight years that nobody's even coming close 219 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:11.840 to him, right, He'd have to be number one in 220 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.879 the world till like twenty thirty six to match Tiger's streak. 221 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:16.600 That's just wild. 222 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.120 It's I mean, Tiger, you know, did you see the 223 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:23.240 shot Scotty hit yesterday to win the tournament yeap effectively 224 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:26.240 on seventeen. You sit there and you're like, that's one 225 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.039 of the greatest shots you've ever seen, And then you 226 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:32.320 think about the natural like comparison is Tiger's shot on 227 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:36.360 sixteen in the Masters in like yeah, yeah, and and 228 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:42.960 like that shot makes makes Scotty's shot look like a 229 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:47.039 three foot pott Yeah. And it's just the things Tiger 230 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.639 was able to do and what what's crazy about Tiger 231 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:52.399 is he's probably the best iron player of all time. 232 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:54.840 Like he so he come, he comes into golf right, 233 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:57.960 and he hits it a mile, and he's overpowering courses 234 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.480 and like everybody's heard it. You know, oh, a Tiger 235 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.000 proof golf courses. That's why they started lengthening them. All 236 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:06.519 this stuff. It's not even close to what the best 237 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:08.799 part of his game was. He was maybe the best 238 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:12.679 iron player of all time. His short name is outrageous, 239 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:16.480 as displayed by the you know, the shot on sixteen 240 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:19.879 that the Masters, among a million other shots, and then 241 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:23.120 he was probably the best potter maybe to ever live. Yeah, 242 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:25.960 I mean I saw stat recently where it was like 243 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:29.639 in I'm gonna I'm just making this up, but it's 244 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:34.559 something like this where he had he had like eighteen 245 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:38.960 hundred putts inside four feet in two years, and he 246 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.960 missed two of them. 247 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:43.440 It's just unfathomable. 248 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.519 Now you give me eighteen hundred puts inside four inches, 249 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:47.919 I think I'd missed two of them. 250 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:51.559 I mean, it blows the mind in a different way 251 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:53.399 when you actually try to be good at it, when 252 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.039 you try to play the game and then you realize, 253 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:57.519 like how hard it is to be good and consistent, 254 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:00.600 and how wild it is that he did what he did. 255 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.360 Now he's not gonna get Jack's record. 256 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:06.720 Injuries and then proclivity for Perkins waitresses and such kind 257 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:07.639 of threw him off the rails. 258 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:09.399 But do you think he's the greatest that's ever done it. 259 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:12.279 I think he's the greatest that's ever done it. 260 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:16.679 But I also think, you know, some day, I mean, 261 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.960 he he may never have this conversation, who knows, but 262 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.879 like he probably has to reckon a little bit with 263 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:28.559 the fact that it was him. It like the injuries 264 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.039 were even him in a lot of ways because of 265 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:35.799 the swing change. Yeah, okay, the swing stuff is wild 266 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:37.279 to me. I mean, he went out and he won. 267 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.320 He won the Masters in record breaking fashion. He won 268 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:43.039 he won the US Open Upebble Beach by one hundred 269 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.519 shots whatever it was. I mean, and you know that story, right, 270 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:48.559 I mean that one's unbelieve he won that tournament by 271 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:55.000 thirteen strokes or something like that. And then he goes 272 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:59.399 out and completely changes his golf swing because he's and 273 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.480 it's what God him where he was. So I also 274 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.600 understand how this like this is the mentality of an athlete, right. 275 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.039 Like, there's this. 276 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.039 There's this pursuit of perfection, at least at the very 277 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:18.679 top ends of sports, where you're never satisfied. You never 278 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:20.799 think you're good enough, you never And of course the 279 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.879 irony is like you also go out and you believe 280 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:25.720 you're the best every day you're out there. So it's 281 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:30.840 this weird, you know, dichotomy in your head. But he 282 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.000 thought there was something to fix, and so we went 283 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.240 out and completely read it as golf swing, and you know, 284 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.000 I think that led to some of the injuries. Obviously 285 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.320 there's other things that happened, but like he was winning 286 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.399 majors by fifteen strokes, Like what do you need to 287 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:44.039 go change? 288 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:47.679 Just go do it again, just keep at it. 289 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.080 Yeah, it's interesting you bring it up because I listened 290 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.440 to an interview or you know what this is actually 291 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:54.519 during one of the golf channels, like, hey, this is 292 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.039 when Tiger was Tiger broadcasts and they interviewed Wyndham Clark. 293 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:02.960 I'm trying to think when Wyndham said his swing was 294 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.919 at when Tiger swing was at his best. Is there 295 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.320 an era where you felt like his swing was in 296 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:10.279 the best place and he never should have touched it. 297 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.679 I think it's hard to argue against that. 298 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:17.080 Like you know, early twenty ninety eight to two thousand 299 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.399 and three, kind of like winn he won the Masters, 300 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.879 the first Masters, that that Pebble Beach US Open, when 301 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:24.799 he had the Tiger Slam where he held all the 302 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:29.039 majors at the same time, you know, I mean. And 303 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:31.440 but by the way, we haven't talked about his amateur career. 304 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.080 You know that, right, You know that he won three 305 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:38.720 consecutive US Junior Amateurs and then won three consecutive US Amateurs. 306 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.200 Like that's mind blowing. 307 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:43.759 In and of itself. It's mind blowing, mind blowing. Yeah, 308 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:47.080 that he did that. And also and again, yes, his 309 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.440 career was derailed as a result of some poor personal 310 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.320 decisions and the health as your referenced with his. 311 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:55.840 His swing change. 312 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:59.440 But what the other thing it's interesting about this sport 313 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:05.039 to me is how many great young golfers get derailed 314 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:08.720 by fatigue, sure, or not wanting to live. It was 315 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:12.240 interesting talking to Steele about this because at the media 316 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:16.000 tournament prior to the Utah am they paired me with him, 317 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.000 and they did that intentionally because he's a pro now 318 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:21.000 he's an amateur now, because he's trying to qualify and 319 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:23.360 I'm learning all this stuff in real time, like can 320 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.159 you qualify for the Masters in the US Open in 321 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:29.320 the amateur route? And Steele has a very successful career. 322 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:33.080 So he referenced how like money was immateial to him. 323 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:34.639 He didn't need to grind to make the money. But 324 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:37.919 he was telling me about the lifestyle. The grind to 325 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.000 just get your car go to Q school is interesting. 326 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:41.679 And I said during Q school, who was the one 327 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.519 golfer that you played with or against that you felt 328 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:46.440 was to ad He said, Xander said it was Xander 329 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:49.000 when he ran in his Ander He's like, Okay, that's different. 330 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.159 I'm not sure that I can ever be that. But 331 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:55.080 there are myriads of different things that derailed these golfers 332 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:58.080 before they ever even touched their apex. And again Tiger 333 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.360 was derailed, but after an incredible a like the fact 334 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.120 that everything fell in the line the way that it did. 335 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.200 It's one of the most remarkable stories in the history 336 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:06.279 of sport, it really is. 337 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:10.559 And then and then by the way, the twenty nineteen Masters, 338 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.240 like are you kidding? The comeback? And then watched that 339 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:17.559 live it was unbelievable. Yeah, it was unbelievable, by the way. 340 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.559 You know, you know our friend Matt who plays off 341 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:21.519 with us, he was there. 342 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:22.559 Oh, he was at that. 343 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.480 He left on he left on Sunday morning, so he 344 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.000 wasn't there for the final round, but he was there. 345 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:30.600 Do you remember It's actually funny, do you remember the 346 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.720 shot where Tiger hit a ball out of the trees 347 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:35.960 and had to had to curl it around and together, 348 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.279 and he had the gallery around him, and and that 349 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:43.039 I believe it was Ah, it was one of the 350 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.639 security guards comes running by and slips on the wet 351 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.559 grass and almost takes Tiger's leg out. In the TV 352 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:50.919 shot you can see Matt. Oh really yeah. And that 353 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.120 was Father's Day too, by the way, right, I believe 354 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:54.440 no Father's Day is us open? 355 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:56.039 Oh, yes, he's right. 356 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:01.320 It might have been something about no because his father anyway, Yeah, 357 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:03.840 but there was something something about it. It was an 358 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:05.919 unbeliev I mean, just an unbelievable tournament. 359 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:07.879 Well, and then the relationship with his dad is so 360 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:10.679 fascinating to me. It's yeah, you know, because the fact 361 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:13.360 of the matter is he's not Tiger without earl. But 362 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.000 there was still, you know, a lot of things about 363 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.000 that relationship. 364 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:19.000 It's not hard to make an argument it was an 365 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:20.120 unhealthy relationship. 366 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:23.000 Well, and you just wonder how much of Tiger's ultimate 367 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.360 downfall was learned behavior, right like all of the things 368 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:28.919 we learned about his dad later on in the womanizing 369 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.799 And anyway, all right, before we catch a break, I 370 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:34.720 wanted to have you in studio for a while now, 371 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:38.600 and coming up next, I want to talk about you know, 372 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.080 where you feel the club is at now, what it 373 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.200 was like to build what I perceived to be for 374 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:46.279 about eighteen to twenty matches last year is the best 375 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.559 team we've had here. I truly believe that. But before 376 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:50.320 we catch a break, let's get to know you a 377 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.240 little bit. For our listeners who don't local kid, Judge 378 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:54.840 high kid, you tak kid. 379 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:56.960 Yep, and you're not You're a little bit like me. 380 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:58.879 You're not just like a soccer guy like you love 381 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.679 Utah football, you up loving. 382 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:01.360 The jazz like Oh. 383 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:03.679 I was listening to you with with Doctor Chris Hill 384 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.799 today and you were talking about hiring Urban and the Muss. 385 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:08.680 I was in the Muss. I was in the Muss 386 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:12.720 for both undefeated seasons. I'm real, like literally brought chills 387 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:13.920 to my down my spine. 388 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.240 So tell us about your path, like and then we'll 389 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:17.519 get to the RSL stuff on the other. 390 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:21.359 Yeah, so you know, like you said, local local guy, 391 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:26.480 grew up you know, right within walking distance of Rice Ecles, 392 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.240 going to games as a kid, huge jazz fan as 393 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:32.960 a kid. I mean, you know, the the Stockton to 394 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:37.039 Malone pick and roll in the and the you know, 395 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.920 the ninety six ninety seven finals runs are sear to 396 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.480 my brain. I mean that's like, that's that's sports fandom 397 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:46.160 to me. Like that is, and then and then the 398 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:48.519 utes going to the to the final four and then 399 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.759 the championship match and or championship game. There's this there's 400 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:57.079 the soccer guy, you know, and you know, falling short 401 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:59.400