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<v Speaker 1>Honduras June fifteenth, nineteen fifty four. A small army of

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<v Speaker 1>approximately two hundred men is stationed at the Guatemalan border.

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<v Speaker 1>For weeks, they have patiently waited for the CIA to

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<v Speaker 1>greenlight the last phase of operations success. But Carlos Castillo

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<v Speaker 1>Armas has been waiting much, much longer. Since nineteen forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>He's been plotting his revenge while his lust for power grows.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite being described by many as an unimposing man, his

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<v Speaker 1>unlikely comeback is remarkable, though only made possible by overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>outside forces. Liberator, puppet, dictator, oppressor, pick any name you

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<v Speaker 1>like to Armas, they mean nothing. He knows it's a miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>He's even alive. He should have died during coup attempt

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago. Now Here, at the age of thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>he has lived through more hell than many of us

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<v Speaker 1>will ever endure. This is the end of the line

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<v Speaker 1>for him, his last opportunity to seize power. One way

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<v Speaker 1>or another, he will succeed in his quest, his hunger sated,

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<v Speaker 1>only to be assassinated by one of his presidential guards

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<v Speaker 1>three years after taking office. This is fru Data, the

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable story of the nineteen fifty four, CIA sponsored Guatemalan

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<v Speaker 1>COUD Episode four operations success. The CIA knew that to

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<v Speaker 1>turn Guatemalans against their leader, they would need to provide

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<v Speaker 1>a domestic alternative, someone they could prop up as a

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<v Speaker 1>man of the people, a liberator. United Fruit had a

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<v Speaker 1>name in mind. After all, it had to be someone

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<v Speaker 1>they could work with. The front runner in this odd,

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<v Speaker 1>undemocratic primary process was Miguel Idigores Fuentes. He'd been an

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<v Speaker 1>army general under Ubigo's dictatorship until a Revlo was elected

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty five. He later ran for office in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty and lost the election to Arbanz. Since then,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd moved to El Salvador, where he was extremely vocal

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<v Speaker 1>about the elections being stolen from him, a totally unsubstantiated claim.

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<v Speaker 1>Much like Ubigo, he would have become a corrupt fascist dictator. However,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike his former boss, Fuentes was not an easy man

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<v Speaker 1>to work with. He wasn't willing to play ball or

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<v Speaker 1>blindly accept orders from a foreign government. On top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>he was considered a reputational liability. Rachel Nolan is a journalist, historian,

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<v Speaker 1>and professor. She's the author of Until I Find You,

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<v Speaker 1>Disappeared Children and coercive adoptions in Guatemala.

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<v Speaker 2>When this was famously brutal. In fact, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons that the CIA rejected him as an original candidate

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<v Speaker 2>for the role of dictator Guatemala is that he was

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<v Speaker 2>unpopular after having overseen massacres of indigenous people. The CIA

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<v Speaker 2>was making calculations in nineteen fifty four about who are our.

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<v Speaker 3>Allies in Guatemala.

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<v Speaker 2>They had in mind certain oligarchic figures within the country.

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<v Speaker 2>They were saying, well, he's not very liked. They were

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<v Speaker 2>almost trying to hand pick the successor to Urban's by saying,

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<v Speaker 2>who has a following, who is a credible.

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<v Speaker 3>Leader, who might look like a popular leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they were fooling themselves that people wouldn't know it

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<v Speaker 2>would be that it was was THEIA.

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<v Speaker 1>The United Fruit Company pitched a second man, Juan Cordova Serna,

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<v Speaker 1>who was already on the company's payroll as a legal advisor,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a promotion. Unfortunately, just before they could reach

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<v Speaker 1>an agreement, he was hospitalized with throat cancer, most likely

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy of those cigarettes Edward Burnet's had so successfully advertised.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, it all came down to Colonel Carlos

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<v Speaker 1>Castillo Armas, a remarkably unremarkable man whose military background would

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<v Speaker 1>help lend credence to the uprising narrative. Armas had actually

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<v Speaker 1>been a member of Arabelo's cabinet until nineteen forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>when he quit. After the assassination of Francisco Arana. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty, he attempted a coup which failed miserably. He

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<v Speaker 1>was shot, wounded, and left for dead. He was only

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<v Speaker 1>saved because someone heard him moan and rushed him to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. Ironically, after being saved, he was sentenced to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily for him, just before his scheduled execution, he managed

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<v Speaker 1>to escape, some say through bribery, others through a tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>From there, he spent a few years working odd jobs

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<v Speaker 1>in Colombia and Honduras. At some point he was reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>working as a furniture salesman, biding his time for the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to strike back. This opportunity finally came when he

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<v Speaker 1>was hand picked to become the next leader of Guatemala,

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Nolan.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, Castillo Armas was a weak little guy. Even the

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<v Speaker 2>CIA reports about finding a leader a kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>you would call an AstroTurf leader rather than a grassroots leader,

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<v Speaker 2>someone who looks to be grassroots or looks to be

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<v Speaker 2>a popular leader of a counter revolution in Guatemala, but

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<v Speaker 2>is actually directed by the CIA. At first, the CIA,

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<v Speaker 2>who are literally trying to cast people. I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>are thinking, will this guy do well? That guy do

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<v Speaker 2>They're going through different names, and they pass over Castio

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<v Speaker 2>Aaramas because he's too unimpressive. He's been drinking in New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans for the last decade. He's been outside of the country,

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely attempting on his own to martial account of revolution

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<v Speaker 2>and invade. I mean, he saw himself as a potential

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<v Speaker 2>future leader of Guatemala, but no one took him all

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<v Speaker 2>that seriously. Idiodes Fuantes was taller. I mean, it sounds ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 2>but the CIA loves this kind of thing. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>central casting. He was whiter. There was a long discussion

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<v Speaker 2>about Cristio Aaramas that he had darker skin and so

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<v Speaker 2>would he really be seen as a Caliola like potential leader.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, these were the racist terms in which it

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<v Speaker 2>was discussed. But the appearance was important. That was part

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<v Speaker 2>of the thing to try to make the coup look real.

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<v Speaker 2>So Costiotamas was an incredibly unimpressive man. Actually, he seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to be what he was, which was someone who would

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<v Speaker 2>never have been there.

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<v Speaker 3>He would never have been in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Guatemala it were not for the push from the CIA.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, back in the States, United Fruit was arranging another

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<v Speaker 1>large delivery of weapons to Central America, easy enough given

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<v Speaker 1>their experience in the field, not to mention the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they owned more ships than most countries, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as a few railroads and in an active gallantry. The

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<v Speaker 1>CIA had agreed to finance the entire operation with about

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<v Speaker 1>three million in taxpayer dollars equivalent to thirty four million today.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, the plan was an open secret. In January

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen fifty four, Elite resulted in the Guatemalan press

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<v Speaker 1>publishing correspondence between Castillo Attomas Idigoras Fuentes and the Samosa

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<v Speaker 1>family of Nicaragua. These reports also exposed to the involvement

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<v Speaker 1>of Venezuela El Salvador, the Dominican Republic, and the government

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<v Speaker 1>of the North. Certainly it wasn't Canada, but the international

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<v Speaker 1>press did not pick up the story, which went largely unnoticed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was yet another confirmation that overthrowing Autoban's was fair

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<v Speaker 1>game and no one would interfere. Finally, it was showtime.

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<v Speaker 1>The American embassy in Guatemala City was equipped with an

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<v Speaker 1>array of communication devices capable of jamming official broadcasts as

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<v Speaker 1>well as airing clandestine ones. The setup allowed Americans to

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<v Speaker 1>disguise their programs as legitimate national radio frequencies. Equipping an

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<v Speaker 1>embassy with instruments of war was a major violation of

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<v Speaker 1>international law even in the wild fifties. The embassy even

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<v Speaker 1>set up an outdoor sound system that played convincing recordings

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<v Speaker 1>of planes flying over the city to make people believe

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<v Speaker 1>they were under attack. The ambassador himself, John Purifoy, was

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<v Speaker 1>given cash to personally bribe potential military defectors and politicians.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a brazen lack of discretion, one you'd expect

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<v Speaker 1>from the Eisenhower Nixon administration. In fact, Eurofoy publicly stated

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<v Speaker 1>to The Times in January of nineteen fifty four that

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<v Speaker 1>quote public opinion in the US might force us to

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<v Speaker 1>take some measures to prevent Guatemala from falling into the

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<v Speaker 1>lap of communism end quote. Joseph Whipple is a professor

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<v Speaker 1>and former CIA operations officer. He served as the deputy

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<v Speaker 1>chief of the CIA office in Guatemala City from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four to nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 4>This is nine years after World War Two, right, things

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<v Speaker 4>happening in Europe, happening in Asia, and also there's still

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<v Speaker 4>kind of an aura of the Monroe doctrine. This is

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<v Speaker 4>an area of the world where we're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>have any foreign influences. The US is the top dog

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<v Speaker 4>in this area. That's also a factor that took place

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen fifty four, even into the bay At pace,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, Autoban's was fully aware that his days

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<v Speaker 1>as president were not His small, under equipped army didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the means to fend off an attack sponsored by

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<v Speaker 1>the most powerful country in the world. The nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight US ban on the sale of weapons to Guatemala

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<v Speaker 1>had made the military even weaker than it already was. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>Ottomans was forced to make one crucial, unavoidable mistake. Unable

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase weapons from the Western world, he had to

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<v Speaker 1>look elsewhere. On the morning of May fifteenth, nineteen fifty four,

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<v Speaker 1>a strange event took place in Puerto Barrios the entire

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<v Speaker 1>city had been closed to visitors, and the Minister of

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<v Speaker 1>Defense was roaming the docks with a handful of military officials.

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<v Speaker 1>A Swedish freighter was being hastily uploaded. Its cargo, registered

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<v Speaker 1>as lab equipment, was really a shipment of weapons and

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<v Speaker 1>ammunition from Soviet Czechoslovakia after almost six years of de

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<v Speaker 1>facto embargo. The shipment was not only way to supply

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<v Speaker 1>the military before Castillo Atomos's highly anticipated invasion, it was

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<v Speaker 1>also a way to provide hunters and fishermen with the

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<v Speaker 1>low caliber AMMO they needed for work. The CIA knew

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<v Speaker 1>about the shipment, which they'd been monitoring since before it

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<v Speaker 1>even left Europe. They hadn't stopped it because it supported

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<v Speaker 1>their narrative of Guatemala being in cahoots with the Soviet Union.

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<v Speaker 1>It quite literally provided them with a smoking gun proof

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<v Speaker 1>of Communist ties. Had this not happened, the CIA had

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<v Speaker 1>already devised its own plan to smuggle Soviet weapons into Guatemala,

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<v Speaker 1>planting them with the help of the Nicaraguan government. Arban's

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<v Speaker 1>just saved them the trouble. Joseph Whipple again.

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<v Speaker 4>Arbuns himself. I mean, you know, looking back at it,

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<v Speaker 4>he made some big mistakes. I've often thought that the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that he nationalized the United Fruit Company is a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit overemphasized as a reason for American dissatisfaction with him,

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<v Speaker 4>although probably it was a part of it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>buying weapons from Czechoslovakia and so on was foolhardy, certainly

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<v Speaker 4>on his part.

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<v Speaker 1>Without skipping a beat, the agency immediately secured more funding

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<v Speaker 1>from the Eisenhower administration and set a date for the invasion.

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<v Speaker 1>Even before that, Just days after the shipment, an American

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<v Speaker 1>led commando unit took the liberty of launching a full

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<v Speaker 1>scale attack on the train carrying the Czech weapons from

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Barrios to Guatemala City. Their initial plan was to

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<v Speaker 1>blow up the railroad, but heavy rains stopped the explosives

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<v Speaker 1>from detonating. The American troops had no other choice but

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<v Speaker 1>to open fire on the convoay. The resulting gunfight claimed

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of one soldier on each side and left

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<v Speaker 1>many more injured. The train, on the other hand, was

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<v Speaker 1>unscathed and went on to reach its destination. Its cargo

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<v Speaker 1>proved mostly inconsequential for the Guatemalan army. As it turned out,

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<v Speaker 1>it mainly consisted of unusable, outdated World War II leftovers.

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<v Speaker 1>The US felt emboldened to respond by providing the Liberation

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<v Speaker 1>Army with plenty of weaponry. They even dispatched two submarines

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<v Speaker 1>and three aircraft capable of carrying the atomic bomb. With

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<v Speaker 1>the invasions set for June nineteen fifty four, things were

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<v Speaker 1>starting to ramp up. Rachel Nolan.

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<v Speaker 2>There were airplanes used that were only available to US

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<v Speaker 2>military or CIA forces. I mean, if they had been

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<v Speaker 2>more careful, they would have used only hardware or equipment

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<v Speaker 2>that was recognizably Guatemalan.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So Vicier didn't really take.

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<v Speaker 2>Care to cover its tracks particularly, which is something that

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<v Speaker 2>confuses me.

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<v Speaker 1>Jukobo Atobans was feeling the pressure. Cabinet called countless frantic

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<v Speaker 1>meetings with American officials, offering to renegotiate United Fruits Land compensation,

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<v Speaker 1>but to no avail. On the ground. The propaganda campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>orchestrated by E. Howard Hunt and David ATTLEE. Phillips, was

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<v Speaker 1>that desperately needed to be liberated and castillouaramas As the

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<v Speaker 1>as Cuba. It was a different time, but the most

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<v Speaker 1>valuable propaganda was broadcast from inside Guatemala by a clandestine

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<v Speaker 1>radio station called Radio Librecion, a cunning bit of psychological

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<v Speaker 1>updated fellow Guatemalans on the progress made by Castillo Armas's

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<v Speaker 1>oust the communist dictatorship. In reality, Automas's ragtag army of

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<v Speaker 1>to cross the border into the country. Stephen Kinser is

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<v Speaker 1>Bitter Fruit, The untold story of the American Coup in Guatemala.

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<v Speaker 5>The American operation to overthrow the Government of Guatemala PB's

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<v Speaker 5>success was almost entirely psychological. It was not military, it

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<v Speaker 5>had constructed this psychological project. It involved making Guatemalans believe

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<v Speaker 5>that there had been a rebellion within the Guatemalan military.

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<v Speaker 5>So what they did was, for example, paint a few

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<v Speaker 5>issue proclamations that would be broadcast on a so called

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<v Speaker 5>that the pilots of these planes had rebelled against Urbans

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<v Speaker 5>and they were fighting for freedom. Meanwhile, these planes would

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<v Speaker 5>drop bombs strategically in places that would be particularly embarrassing

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<v Speaker 5>for the regime, like inside the main military academy. It

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<v Speaker 5>definitely became clear to the generals that the United States

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<v Speaker 5>Arbnz was out of office. So there were no military

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<v Speaker 5>confrontations of any significance. It was a matter of putting

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<v Speaker 5>enough pressure on the generals preventing Arbenz from reacting, rather

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<v Speaker 5>than giving him a military challenge that the army would have.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to face.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until June eighteenth, nineteen fifty four that the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberation Army of Castiuantomas finally entered Guatemala through Honduras. He

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<v Speaker 1>personally led a small group of fewer than two hundred men,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Guatemalan army. They were few but well armed.

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<v Speaker 1>The CIA had supplied them with plenty of weapons and ammunition.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to that, they had the benefit of a

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<v Speaker 1>fast work of infrastructure provided by UFC, including several outposts, railroads,

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<v Speaker 1>and even the national telecommunications network. The liberator advanced a

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<v Speaker 1>wapping six miles into the country before receiving orders to

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<v Speaker 1>halt and await further instructions. The CIA was determined to

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<v Speaker 1>make this a bloodless coup. The operation had been over

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<v Speaker 1>engineered for exactly that reason. That same morning, a C

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven aircraft flew over Guatemala City. It dropped leaflets

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<v Speaker 1>demanding Arbenz's resignation and threatening to bomb the capitol. It

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<v Speaker 1>was one of several American led airborne operations, including the

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<v Speaker 1>bombing of fuel tanks in Puerto Barrios which further maimed

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<v Speaker 1>the government's already scarce resources. Arbenz had no intention of surrendering.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fully aware of the CIA and United Fruits

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel Nolan, the propaganda was directed mostly toward the capital,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's sort of impossible to know what your average

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<v Speaker 2>Guatemalan on the street thought as the coup was unfolding.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of a mystery, right, Like, for how long

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<v Speaker 2>did people think of as a real uprising, although the

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<v Speaker 2>newspaper coverage even pretty soon after the event shows that

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<v Speaker 2>it was general knowledge that it was a US backed

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<v Speaker 2>coup fairly quickly. If you ask what the average Guatemalan

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<v Speaker 2>in the country thought, or you mentioned in more rural

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<v Speaker 2>areas outside of the capital, even if they weren't up

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<v Speaker 2>to date on all of the details of who was

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<v Speaker 2>behind the overthrow, it affected their daily life in an

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<v Speaker 2>extreme way. They could have gone from being day laborers

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<v Speaker 2>who were indebted to the owner of the farm to

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<v Speaker 2>owning their own plot of land and they were stripped

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<v Speaker 2>of that possibility once again.

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<v Speaker 1>In a matter of days, the Americans lost three of

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<v Speaker 1>their aircraft. Two of them were caught in crossfire and

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<v Speaker 1>had to be grounded. The other simply ran out of

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<v Speaker 1>fuel and crashed near the Mexican border. The Guatemalan government

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<v Speaker 1>practically had no functioning military aircraft. If the US wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain plausible deniability and continue to push the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>of a domestic uprising, the CIA could not afford to

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<v Speaker 1>leave wrecks of American planes in the country. Meanwhile, on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, Castillou Attamas and his few hundred mercenaries were

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<v Speaker 1>also failing spectacularly. The Guatemalan armies somehow managed to fend

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<v Speaker 1>off their attacks on the cities of Puerto Barrios and Zacappa.

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<v Speaker 1>Faced with the prospect of a farcical failure, the CIA

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<v Speaker 1>begged the State Department for more airplanes, a flea that

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<v Speaker 1>was rejected so as not to expose American involvement in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. With confidence in Castillo Atamas waning, the CIA

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<v Speaker 1>felt it was time to take measures into their own hands,

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<v Speaker 1>and decided to use the oldest play in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>a false flag operation. A false flag operation is an

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<v Speaker 1>act committed with the intent of blaming another party. To oversimplify,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea is to attack your own people or territory

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<v Speaker 1>and then blame the enemy to have an excuse to retaliate.

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<v Speaker 1>Notable examples include reportedly Julius Caesar staging an attack to

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<v Speaker 1>justify his invasion of Gaul, the Germans killing prisoners dressed

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<v Speaker 1>as Nazis, then blaming Polish soldiers to invade Poland in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty nine, the Soviet Union shelling the village of

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<v Speaker 1>Manila on the border with Finland as an excuse to

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<v Speaker 1>invade Finland also in nineteen thirty nine, and a great

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<v Speaker 1>number of other confirmed or suspected operations throughout history, some

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<v Speaker 1>more controversial than others. This time around, an American pilot

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<v Speaker 1>was hastily instructed to use one of the few remaining

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<v Speaker 1>plans to bomb the Honduran border. Honduras would then claim

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<v Speaker 1>Attoban's had attacked the country despite Guatemala's almost complete lack

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<v Speaker 1>of aircraft, forcing the United States to intervene in defense

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<v Speaker 1>of Honduras. A simple plan if not for the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Honduran authorities after the bombing had taken place on

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<v Speaker 1>a deserted airstrip near the border, gave contradictory reports about

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<v Speaker 1>the location of the attack. This made the international press

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious and unwilling to run the story, in an act

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<v Speaker 1>of rare restraint for the time. That same day, another

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<v Speaker 1>American pilot tasked with bombing the government's radio station in

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<v Speaker 1>Guatemala City mistakenly bombed the headquarters of an American evangelical mission,

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<v Speaker 1>which was fortunately vacant. At the time of the strike.

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<v Speaker 1>It had become increasingly evident that the entire operation had

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a comedy of errors. Stephen Kinzer, the coupe

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<v Speaker 6>Several of the planes that the CIA was using were lost.

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<v Speaker 6>At one point, it almost seemed like the who had failed.

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<v Speaker 6>But two things happened I think that made it succeed.

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, when new planes were needed, Alan Dulles

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<v Speaker 6>went directly to Eisenhower, and Eisenhower approved the dispatch of

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<v Speaker 6>new planes. He later said famously that whenever you decide

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<v Speaker 6>to take the path of violence, of the support of violence,

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<v Speaker 6>it is too late to turn back. You have to

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<v Speaker 6>put in all your resources to guarantee that you succeed.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was important. The other thing that happened had

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<v Speaker 5>to do with our bends. He lost his nerve. He

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<v Speaker 5>didn't handle the crisis well. I later met with Joree Torrieo,

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<v Speaker 5>who was his foreign minister. Torrieo said to me, the

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<v Speaker 5>cabinet should have been in permanent session that whole two weeks. Instead,

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<v Speaker 5>the cabinet never met even once. So our bends did

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<v Speaker 5>not respond well, and I think that turned a CIA

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<v Speaker 5>operation that might have failed into a success.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for Arbenz, who was starting to feel rather hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>about things, the United States had infinite resources. For any

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<v Speaker 1>botched operation, two more would be set up, like some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of clumsy, inefficient hydra. Even the most dismal percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of success would have still resulted in the US ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>winning and overthrowing the Guatemalan government Huckabo. Arbenz never ceased

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<v Speaker 1>to negotiate pleading with the US for a peaceful resolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for him, it was never in the cards. CIA

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<v Speaker 1>director Alan Dulles was also pleading with Dwight Eisenhower, but

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<v Speaker 1>for more airplanes. As described in Bitter Fruit by Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Kinser and Stephen Slessinger, as well as in Secret History

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<v Speaker 1>by Nick Cullither, the President asked Dulles what chances they

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<v Speaker 1>had of succeeding he had not provided the CIA with

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<v Speaker 1>additional aircraft. About zero, Dellas replied, and suppose we supply

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<v Speaker 1>the aircraft? Asked the President about twenty percent, said Dulls,

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<v Speaker 1>If you said ninety percent, I would have said no.

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower concluded, and that might have been the exact moment

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<v Speaker 1>the fate of Guatemala was decided. In a last ditch effort,

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<v Speaker 1>Attobenz's government requested that the United Nations investigate the events

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<v Speaker 1>taking place in Guatemala. The Security Council called for the

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<v Speaker 1>immediate termination of any action likely to cause bloodshed and

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<v Speaker 1>requested all members abstain from rendering assistance to any such action. However,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing was done to further investigate the events or to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure the resolution would be respected. In fact, at the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the coup in June of nineteen fifty four,

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<v Speaker 1>the UN Security Council, whose presidency is held by a

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<v Speaker 1>Almost certainly, the timing of the coup was no coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Emboldened by a lack of international scrutiny, the CIA put

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<v Speaker 1>their new aircraft to work shelling Guatemala's countryside and hitting

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<v Speaker 1>military facilities to support Castillo Atomas's ground efforts forget a

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<v Speaker 1>bloodless coup. The operation had just devolved into a precise,

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<v Speaker 1>nevertheless violent internal conflict. The capital was next. In Guatemala's city,

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of actual air strikes blended in with the

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<v Speaker 1>fake ones blasted by the speakers outside the American embassy,

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<v Speaker 1>a dystopian scene of chaos and psychological warfare. The police

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<v Speaker 1>for Diploma Mussy quickly turned to please for mercy. Arbenz's

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<v Speaker 1>government frantically and repeatedly wired US officials asking for an

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<v Speaker 1>immediate ceasefire, but to no avail. On the contrary, the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA could smell blood in the water and intensified their attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>The Voice of Liberation, the rogue radio station they had created,

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<v Speaker 1>continued to spread rumors of an army in the thousands

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<v Speaker 1>marching through the countryside. Reporters could not verify such rumors,

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<v Speaker 1>so they turned to what had always been their best

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<v Speaker 1>source of information, the United Fruit Company Lafrutera, advised by

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<v Speaker 1>its PR firm in New York City, started circulating pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of alleged rebels who had joined Custeu Onomas's ranks. In reality,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just peasants who had been asked to pose

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<v Speaker 1>with unloaded rifles. They also circulated pictures of mass graves

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<v Speaker 1>alleged proof of Adben's atrocities. The pictures were of dubious origins,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't clear where or when they had been taken.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio communications were constantly being jammed or used to spread

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<v Speaker 1>fake rumors. The mercenaries, the few hundred that actually existed,

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<v Speaker 1>started killing farm animals and leaving them on the streets

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<v Speaker 1>to simulate a trail of Mayhem. While mostly overlooked and

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<v Speaker 1>quickly forgotten by the Western world, the Guatemalan coup had

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<v Speaker 1>a profound impact on the people of South and Central America,

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<v Speaker 1>informing the way they viewed the United States and capitalism

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<v Speaker 1>in general. Rachel Nolan, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Anti Gringo sentiment or the anti Yankee sentiment is quite strong,

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<v Speaker 2>and people reference nineteen fifty four. It's not a forgotten memory.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a submerged history. People talk about Yankee imperialism.

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<v Speaker 2>People are well aware that the abuses and crimes and

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<v Speaker 2>violence of the Civil War was detonated by the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four coup. So that's not forgotten or buried history

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>One notable example is Ernesto chay Gvada, an Argentinian expat

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<v Speaker 1>whose fame in hindsight makes almost every other character involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this story look like an extra. The impact of

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<v Speaker 1>the Guatemalan coup on schae Gvada's political views, though his

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<v Speaker 1>direct involvement in the story is marginal, changed the course

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<v Speaker 1>of history. It just so happened that Ernesto had moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Guatemala earlier that same year, in January of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four, drawn by Ottobanz's promise of social reforms. As

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<v Speaker 1>the coup unfolded in front of his eyes, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be an understatement to say he was saddened and disillusioned,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that to the United States, the greed of a

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<v Speaker 1>company came before democracy, the well being of millions of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and the future of an entire nation. In correspondence with

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<v Speaker 1>his family, Chey explicitly cited the United Fruit Company and

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<v Speaker 1>capitalism as negative forces disadvantageous to citizens. When the coup started,

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<v Speaker 1>he joined an armed militia affiliated with the Communist Youth.

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<v Speaker 1>He served as a fighter and volunteered as a medic.

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<v Speaker 1>Even after Arbenz's resignation. He continued to fight with rebel

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<v Speaker 1>forces before ultimately taking refuge at the Argentinian embassy and

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<v Speaker 1>fleeing to Mexico, where he would meet Fidel Castro. The rest,

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<v Speaker 1>as they say, is history.

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel Nolan again, I think that the CIA really didn't

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<v Speaker 2>consider what they would now call blowback. A person who

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting in Guatemala City watching this all unfold in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty four was Ernesto Gaevada, later known as Chagavada,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was radicalized by what he saw. And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons many historians think that the Cuban Revolution

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<v Speaker 2>took such a hard left turn right at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>was that they were very reasonably the leadership of the

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<v Speaker 2>Cuban Revolution was very reasonably concerned that the US would

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<v Speaker 2>do in nineteen fifty four, Guatemala, in Havana.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen fifty nine, right now, they tried. The Bay

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<v Speaker 3>of Pinks was a failure.

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<v Speaker 2>But chey Evada couldn't have been radicalized by sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>Guatemala City if the CIA had been successful in keeping

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<v Speaker 2>their actions a secret. They were sloppy. It was very

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<v Speaker 2>openly a CIA action. Therefore, a whole generation was radicalized.

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<v Speaker 1>Some say that the CIA's effective use of the Voice

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<v Speaker 1>of Liberation as a propaganda tool inspired Chay to create

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Rabelde years later in Cuba. His first wife claimed

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<v Speaker 1>it was his experience in Guatemala that convinced him of

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of taking arms against imperialism as the only

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<v Speaker 1>effective way to drive change. In addition to that, reportedly,

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<v Speaker 1>by seeing how quickly some of Arbenz's men turned against him,

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<v Speaker 1>Chae Gavada became convinced that an army must be cleansed

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<v Speaker 1>to safeguard the revolution. Doubtedly, though it is not clear

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<v Speaker 1>to what extent, his time in Guatemala made Ernesto Gavada

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<v Speaker 1>all the more convinced that a communist revolution was the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to eradicate imperialist capitalism. It also hardened his

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<v Speaker 1>conviction that change could not be achieved without the use

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<v Speaker 1>of violence. C Chae Gvada's radicalization further highlights how short

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<v Speaker 1>sighted the CIA and uf CO sponsored coup really was.

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<v Speaker 1>It is June twenty seventh, nineteen fifty four. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a little over a week since the beginning of hostilities

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<v Speaker 1>in Guatemala. At this stage, Castillo Attamas and his men

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<v Speaker 1>are nearly unstoppable, hardly thanks to their tactical savvy, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather because of the gargantuan operation built around them. The

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<v Speaker 1>American press is running stories about Arbenz's government being a

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<v Speaker 1>communist threat that needs to be eradicated. The pr campaign

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<v Speaker 1>by the United Fruit Company leading up to the coup

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<v Speaker 1>has been extremely effective. No Western outlet is reporting on

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<v Speaker 1>the anti American protests that erupted all over South America.

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<v Speaker 1>No one is questioning how in the world a small

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<v Speaker 1>group of a few hundred illiterate peasants turned mercenaries has

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<v Speaker 1>been able to launch a full scale invasion of a

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<v Speaker 1>sovereign nation. No One is batting an eye at their

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<v Speaker 1>dominance of the air, with modern fighter bombers operating from

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<v Speaker 1>multiple neighboring countries on a daily basis. No one is

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<v Speaker 1>investigating the highly sophisticated and widespread broadcast system run by

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<v Speaker 1>those same illiterate peasants. Like any good story, the coup

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<v Speaker 1>benefits from a rather generous dose of suspension of disbelief.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been two days since Arbanz received a disheartening ultimatum.

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<v Speaker 1>This one did not come from the CIA dropping leaflets

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<v Speaker 1>over the National Palace it came directly from his own army.

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<v Speaker 1>Resign or will be forced to strike a deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the enemy. With no one to turn to but the

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<v Speaker 1>people who elected him, Arbanz desperately calls upon the civilian

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<v Speaker 1>population to take arms and fight the invaders themselves, but

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<v Speaker 1>to no avail. People's hope has been lost, smothered by

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<v Speaker 1>the terrifying psychological warfare, the fake reports of military convoys

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<v Speaker 1>headed toward the capital, and the very real ones of

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<v Speaker 1>a civilian Guatemalan ship sunk by air forces in the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all over. Visibly shaken, sleep deprived and Reeking of

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<v Speaker 1>booze Jakabu, Arbenz is finally ready to see step down.

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<v Speaker 1>He calls a foreign minister and asks him to negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>the terms of his resignation. He then tries to announce

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<v Speaker 1>his decision with a speech via radio, but the transmission

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<v Speaker 1>is partially jammed. It will be over a month before

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA allows the speech to be broadcast. Shortly after,

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<v Speaker 1>with no guard to escort him, Jacobo Arban's walks out

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<v Speaker 1>of the National Palace late into the night. A soldier

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<v Speaker 1>spots him and asks him where he's going. He replies

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly meaning I'm going to the front. The young man

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<v Speaker 1>is baffled. The president has clearly lost his mind and

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<v Speaker 1>decided to join the resistance himself. You can't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>he cries, You can't go to the front. Abendz repeats firmly,

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<v Speaker 1>Only this time he points to the street in front

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<v Speaker 1>of him. What he really meant to say was I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going across a colloquial expression. The guard takes a step

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<v Speaker 1>back and watches on as his president crosses the street

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<v Speaker 1>and walks right into the Mexican Embassy, And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>the dream of a functioning democracy in Guatemala ends next

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<v Speaker 1>time on the last Fruit Detas. Fruitetai is a production

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<v Speaker 1>of fourth act studios written and produced by Stefano Dotzac,

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<v Speaker 1>narrated by me Todd Bierstrom, Sound design and original music

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<v Speaker 1>by Reno Marco Solferini, Script editor Nicholas Charleson, original artwork

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<v Speaker 1>by Luca Polini, featuring excerpts of interviews with Stephen Kinser,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Sue Montgomery, Rachel Nolan, Richard Nuccio, and Joseph Whipple,

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<v Speaker 1>who we sincerely wish to thank for their time, expertise

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<v Speaker 1>and kindness. Fruititai is based on a number of sources. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to mention Bitter Fruit, The Story of the

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<v Speaker 1>American Coup in Guatemala by Stephen Kinzer and Stephen Slessinger

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<v Speaker 1>as the most instrumental book for the making of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>A special thank to Boston University and its staff for

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<v Speaker 1>It'll help more people find it, and it'll help us

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