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Speaker 3: I'll talk about it. I've got something to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, I got something to say.

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Speaker 4: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Weekly Geek, A big

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one if you want to know why that's so funny.

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One that's clips from that's why you joined Patron, which

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we'll talk about later. But the Dulph Lungern Punisher, my

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goodness has come up multiple times now in the Punisher

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we are talking about Punisher to night. It's given me

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a good time, a loaded Weekly Geek everybody, we're talking. Finally,

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there has been leaked multip leak trailers since last year.

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Isn't that crazy? That's first sure leaked last year like

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in twenty twenty five, and the way this long we

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got yesterday, I'm not sure if you saw this on TikTok.

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They were releasing like two second clips of the trailer,

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not the full trailer.

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Speaker 1: Big talker.

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Speaker 4: So now, yeah we posted there, but I'm not a

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TikToker or a reeler. But that's the thing where big anticipation.

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But finally it is her spider Man brand new day

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that tris here another big trail there, which is staking

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its claim. Right in December eighteenth, still doing three. We're

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gonna talk about were gonna talk about Daredevil season two,

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Born Again predictions, and then we're gonna reveal kirkle Man,

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get your opinion. But then I'm gonna reveal the finals

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of the Best Act of March Madness bracket. We're down

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in the semi finals right now. So the semi finals,

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I'll just tell you it was Sinney shall May versus

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Killy Murphy and Florence Pugh versus Leonardo Capro so wow.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say the voting heavy cast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say the voting was very, very close. But yeah,

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some good stuff tonight, some good Patreon questions. We're gonna

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get right into it. Like I said, where there is

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great many places to listen to Geek first ad free

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exclusive episodes early. We'll talk about that a little bit

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that is the best place. Everything you know is down below.

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But let's get into it. Kirkland patz Er, how did

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you uh Tato's jealousy's on this week with the Geek?

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He kept asking me about it, He kept asking me

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oh with Spierman. Drun when Spierman drop and then he's

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been about it, you know, get at where's the ban option?

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Put user and time out there we go, No, we

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won't do it.

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Speaker 2: Do that.

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Speaker 4: Hope everything is all good over there, mister Field, Kirk

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and Pats are off. See the spidy boy Spierman brand

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new day. He's coming out in July, so it's not

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April May, June four months, four months away, so much sooner.

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Speaker 1: Than I feel like I really thought about. You know, yeah,

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I feel like I had that date like crossed my

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mind recently, but until you just said it. Now, it's

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like it's really sinking in. I mean we're almost in

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what March is already halfway done now, like yeah crazy, yeah,

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March eighteenth, yeah, client, But no, it's it's exciting, and

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I feel like usually when these types of big trailers drop,

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I don't actually watch them till I'm like after work

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or whatever. Like where I'm working right now, I get

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like zero service at all, so I'm like in the

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bomb shelter and then I come out at like lunch

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to quickly check messages, pointing with your finger at me.

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What's going on?

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Speaker 4: By the way, I'm storming norm Trest now on the

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man just talking.

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Speaker 1: Is I'm the friendly quirkly Yeah, because.

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Speaker 4: I saw it yesterday. I just got like eight ten

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notifications from Kirkland like give me laugh emojis for a

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thing that was three days old. You know, he's not lying.

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Speaker 1: I catch up. I do catch up, but yeah, I

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sometimes it's it's like I just I'm off great or something.

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Get off the internet every once in a while. But uh, yeah, no.

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it was like tailor or you posting it in our

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our group chat. The stuff I've seen like cross Discord,

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so like just getting little bits and pieces. It's like

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I'm it's like I'm paul A Trad's just drinking drinking

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the blue stuff and I'm seeing like fragments of the future.

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Speaker 4: And had a question about that later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. But to actually sit down and

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watch the trailer, I never actually watched the leaked trailer

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at all. I didn't think. So, yeah, you're no, I

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try not to be and uh I leak everywhere. You

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do leak everywhere? Yeahpecially when Sony is crafting trailers. They

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like to leak their own ship. You know that. I

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feel like they shouldn't include uh in the in the trailers,

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but I'll get there. Overall, though, this was a really

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really high trailer. It was fun to watch this. Like

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hipping in Horrayan in my in my office here, getting

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all pumped up. Just yeah, it's gonna be such an

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exciting year of cinema. I know it's already. It's already

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stuff released already, but still answer bad.

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Speaker 4: What is the good stuff you've seen? Because I think

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like weather Hits. You're man, you haven't seen Project Hill

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Speaker 1: So that's that's maybe I'm thinking of like the things

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this year. Yeah, I guess you are right. I haven't

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really seen too much. Actually in twenty twenty six Wuthering Heights.

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Speaker 4: It was well made, but anny new streaming movies even,

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Speaker 1: And I thinking of the House man, I like that

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as last year last year. Okay, yeah, then I haven't

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Gotta get on Roderick Hill, Mary,

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I highly recommend. Check out Me and Tat's Nonspoils review.

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It was a.

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Speaker 1: Recommend for the theaters, like you should.

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Speaker 4: I recommend for Extreme you have to. I was trying,

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and I gotta get your opinion on something. We'll do

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it after Spider Man because it will delay the cast

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little bit, and I don't I'm already delay the cast

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right now. But me and Emily were deciding, because the

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kids are skiing well last time. This weekend, we're gonna

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should we go do just a date and some you know,

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dinner lunch or something, or should we go do a movie?

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then she's like, what were we gonna see? Because she

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thought the drama was out. I'm like, well, I want

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to see Project Kill Mary. She's like, oh, well, didn't

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you just see that. I'm like yeah, And I'm like,

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but this is probably that's gonna unsell you. We got

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she didn't like go on the west Side when we

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don't have to, but gott to see on the extreme screen.

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it's just the.

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Speaker 4: Bridge and the traffic and all that stuff. I disagree,

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but I'm also not the driver. So she hit me

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with the like, well don't you get a license, which

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with that. And then it's like, well, I can't say

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anything right. I don't have a license. I don't drive.

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scared of two things in life, ladies, gentlemen. Driving snakes.

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That's literally it. That's literally it. I can take on

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Speaker 1: Fuck snake with sharks, you just oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Listened to Dane Cook. Fuck that shark up, you know,

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punch that shark in the eye. Not today's shark. But yeah,

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definitely see it on the extreme screen, which imagine that's

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and we we thought we had some things Saturday but

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you're thinking right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot. I'm filling with you guys on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Not Saturday.

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Speaker 4: You said Sunday. There you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I reminded you.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I'll have to talk to a lady about

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I'll text you guys later, but yeah, I won't move

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to Saturday now. But yeah, so this trailerer you were,

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you're what were the big hotst We're gonna bring up

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the trail of course to break it down talking about

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the about one star review already. I don't need to

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get about your dating life.

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Speaker 1: Well get there.

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Speaker 4: I'll listen to the originals episode this week. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like just just just like the vibe overall, honestly,

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like just just really like the song choice, really like

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but the fact it's like he's living across the street

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Speaker 1: Or maybe ross parties together.

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the advertisement they're doing that because obviously like nand and

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they just got married. Zendia is always like it's so funy,

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has been hot for like I don't like two three years. Yeah,

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like she's not, but like really like she's still just

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project or anything like that. But I feel like these

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things are just to show, Heyjen, our audience deals people

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you love, like, don't worry, they're in there. But also

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I think was telling us geeks like, hey, if you

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don't like the idea of Peter, not really uh it

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we're gonna get more than I wanted of him, uh, interacting,

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not even just seeing them. I'm find the stalking. It's

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the little literal interacting with them. We see three separate

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and then them talking to Peter. And again, this is

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the movie. It just reminds me a lot of Iron

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the day, you know, on that episode, I was, I

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was venting. I was super pissed off that they showed

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the U MJ NOS about Spider Man reveal and like

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it's it's really not to the same extent. I might

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be completely overblown the whole situ here, but I was

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like equally as upset when I saw the two of

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them on the roof together in the scene, and I shit,

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you not, Travis. It literally happens at the exact same

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time in both trailers, like like where she's on the

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bridge with Peter, and it's like it's like, well, it's

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your spider man, It's obvious. It happens at two minutes

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and four seconds in that trailer, and then this one

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it happens in like two minutes and two seconds anything like.

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they kiss or makeup or anything. They don't even say

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anything in that scene. They're just like looking at each other.

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and I just got pissed off. I was like, fuck you, Sony,

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why do you even have to throw that in there?

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might have just put all over scenes in this trailer

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besides maybe one or two, and like, I agree, I

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definitely believe that, yeah as well, Like I do agree

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with that, But still I'm just upset that like they

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just feel like they have to cram all of that

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into this trailer, and like, what even is the story

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in this in this adventure, Like I feel like it's

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first trailer really at all? Right, it's just MJ. Like

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I just gotta get MJ back, Like I feel.

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Speaker 1: Down our throats right now.

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Speaker 4: Again, I think if MJ was played, but because I

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get all no offense to Jacob Babylon, like like if

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it's just him, he didn't need to be in the trailer.

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But with Zendeia, they gotta put Zenda in the trailer, right,

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especially because there is no other bit, like I guess

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there is, but we've argued this before, right of I

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always said, okay, so we had Downy Sam Jackson, a

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cumber Badger. I'd say those are like a tier type

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of characters and actors right where hul can punish her.

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I think for the mainstream, aren't that But two bees

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make an a But I think it's good they don't

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have that, like smoking, even though it's like it's still

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spider Man and it's Tom Hall and a Spidermann. He's

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got more popular, like people like him, more people are

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very invested in him in Zendia. In like the dirt

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sheets or Frock that's wrestling in tabloids and everything. Shit,

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that's what they call him. The wrestling is dirt like

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but like and the thing is like they've not done

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or said anything where it's like, I don't know, they're

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kind of an asshole. Like I think people really like

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these two, right.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of Rock Canada.

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Speaker 4: Please, Yeah, exactly, Tom, we're waiting.

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Speaker 2: We will.

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Speaker 4: We will drink these on the twenty for hours. Shom,

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you'll get twenty you'll he's get a day promotion out

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of us for free, for free. We don't ask for

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anything in return, just send the don't even send a dollar,

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just retweet the stream or just give us the bureaus.

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like a newer crop of villains and characters, and because

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he's been away for so long, I think they just

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want to rely on okay, try and truthful Peter, Spiderman

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and the friends. But I guess the two stories are

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because he didn't say what's MJ back, but like, obviously

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that's what he wants. But I think it's just like

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dealing with that issue still. And then it's also whatever's

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going on in his body. That's and I don't think

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that is the main story, and main film doesn't even

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show that. But with him going to Banner and he's

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like having the web cocoon and they don't show but

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I don't know why they don't even show like he's

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falling and he's like and they like cut off to

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show like he doesn't have organic webbing. It's like fucking

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anyone can well, yeah, but like anyone can figure out

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that now he has like shoots webs from his wrist

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now like that the way they cut it's like just

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because you haven't cut off, how else did it do,

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like from his fucking eyes or something I don't know,

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but which I thought about in Secret Wars. It's gonna

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suck for Andrew now, like he's gonna be the only

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Sperier man that doesn't have organic webbing now because Toby did,

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and now Tom has it. Do you know what I'm

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talking about? What's seeing him talking about? Maybe you don't

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because you might just watch it once, Okay, because now

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he's gonna shoot webs from his wrists now instead of

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he has the machines. Yeah, and Andrew doesn't though, So

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that's man that sucks.

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Speaker 1: For him when we get our our solo Andrew project

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with Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. Right, No, I.

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Speaker 4: Still like Dylan's pitch the Henry Cavill Wolverine instead of

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the Curis duo. But yeah, bring up that trailer.

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Speaker 2: We'll go.

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Speaker 4: We'll go see by scene. But I guess I think

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that's what they're trying to show is Peters alone, depressed

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and there's something happening to his body. I don't think

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that's the I don't think it's a body horror movie.

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I don't think that's the main problem. Like, I'm sure

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there's gonna be a bad guy, he's gonna have to fight.

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But wouldn't it be great if it's just like the substance.

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You know, a lot of people have brought up that

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obviously he turns into the human Spider different times. I

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don't think they'll go that far. I think he could

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have like a nightmare or see a shadow. I do

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agree with multiple people and someone in our discord so

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that it's like Sperimant is a pretty family friendly thing,

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and like if you go two grotests, I what I

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could see Kirkland is them giving him like the human

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just double arms, because that's what happens toon before he

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turns the Human Spire, he gets another set of arms.

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I could see that because they could see GI then

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that's not scary. But go in the full have you

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ever seen that? You've seen the Human Spire before? Right

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where he's just like it's like big tentacles and everything like, Yeah,

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and that's where I feel like, I don't know, you'd

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have to have like another really good protagonist to kind

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of stop that. Obviously Punisher has stopped it before, so

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there's a lot of signs of why they could do

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that story. I don't think they're gonna do that though.

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I don't think the end of this movie is John

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Burton all the Hulk take it on the Human Spider,

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you know. But maybe I'm wrong, So.

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Speaker 1: I hope not.

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Speaker 4: I don't really I'd be happy for John, you know,

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closing the billion dollar movie they'd cut, so I was

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bumped to we'll talk about the leak trailer. You'll hear

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act shall pause after I'll tell you pause. But you

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know classic experiment sitting upside down.

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Speaker 1: I don't love the.

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Speaker 4: Pause right there? Yeah, go back, go back to the buildings. Yeah,

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So obviously, I'm not sure. Do you see the discord

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today when I was showing the street view that Flash

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was on and Punisher was on. Going the GV discord

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and just scroll up a little bit, I will say

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that this is definitely I guess that's one thing we

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talked about. Just in general. I'm liking majority of the

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color grading. I think sometimes there's a little too dark

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and blue, but like majority of the color grading, like

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you'll see it. It's kind of like maybe a couple

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of hours ago, it's of Flash from No Way Home

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and then Frank in the road. So that's where this

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first shot of him on top of the building has

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a bit of that Flash is. It's not as bad

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to that level, but it is still like, uh, this

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dude is on the fucking top of the building, which

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is kind of annoying because it's just like like there's

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Lily project that I've written have been like, Okay, we

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gotta figure out how to get top building. We could

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do it this way, this is this way, and it's

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like they could literally Marvel doesn't have the money just

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to show like this shot would be super easy. Just

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get Tom up there for a fucking hour. He didn't,

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and you don't have to Tom Cruism where he's like

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he's like buckled up, just like have him in the

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middle of the building, like get a couple of shots

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like in Physical.

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Speaker 1: Man, you know, asurance, I guess.

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Speaker 4: But Tom's like Tom Cruise is doing it, you know,

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like when they when there's something high from the climber,

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something dangerous. You know what he's doing, just having fun man,

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making movies, big adventure, having a great time.

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Speaker 1: He is the way for permits. He just starts climbing.

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No like film me, film me.

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Speaker 4: So I agree that this is not the greyt shot,

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but it's not at least that level of what flash

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shot was in No Way Home. So I will say that.

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Speaker 1: Overall it's close. I think it's close.

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Speaker 4: Really Okay, Okay, I think visually though, there's multiple things

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in this trailer that look a lot better than the

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previous trilogy I think No Way Home was starting. I

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think No Ao has some cool singular shots, like that

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one shot of Peter when he's bloodied and crying and

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he's in the rain and it's the big Jonah jameson

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like telecast that ship's peak. But then I think, like

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regular stuff can look like really like iffy. But I

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think there's a lot of cool stuff in here, even

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though it has a lot of like the mcu CGI

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like glossy stuff of like there's no real person in

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the shot. There's a couple of them, which it sucks

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because a couple of those are like the comic book

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cover tribute. So it's like really cool, but it looks

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a little off kilter.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping they kind of polish that up, you know,

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for the final project. And I'm sure like when you

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see on the big screen like you're in that moment,

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I'm sure it it maybe you will look a little

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bit cleaner.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I forget about this test pas point they

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had Florence p you jump off the building for Thunderbolts

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only the two seconds that which in the movie. Yeah, yeah,

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I just it's just so I get it posts and

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they rush these things, but just it just look a

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little a lot better. That's one thing. Kirk and I

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would say, Project Heil Mary some of the best visuals

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you're ever gonna see in like this decade, last Decade's

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phenomenal looking movie. So I never had that once in

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that movie where it's like, eh, everything and there's a

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lot of space and crazy stuff going on. Everything looks

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like real or like palatable. So yeah, I like it. Anyways.

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Love in the suit though, looks great.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, say that moment off the building and oh

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that blue it looks so good, especially just like the

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ripple of like the air on him.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so ready for this suit. You can hit

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play because I'll talk over. Have you seen the meme

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Apeal saying like this is what it's like to let

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go of a ten out of ten, Battie, and it's

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him like yeah, like you know, like high school years.

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That's so yeah. Oh yeah, like this age shout out

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to my great a crush you I lost big time.

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So pause right there. So that music, no, I wouldn't

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put it in that category. It was just one that

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I kind of fumbled the bag on, you know. So

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that laughter you you did, Yeah, the one that got

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way are you talking about tom everything?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So Darkest Hair though, I like it.

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Speaker 2: I dig it.

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Speaker 4: The first two beats to that that note, it sound

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like they're you using the song from the leak trailer

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New York. I Love you, but You're bringing me down.

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I wish they fucking used that because that song just

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fits so perfect to this trailer. I'm hoping it's another

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trailer or in the movie, or they just got cheap

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and they want to pay the license. But I think

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that song that Jimly could have made that like a

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top tenor. You didn't like the song hang.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like the song. No, it was I don't

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know too much New York. I love you whatever, but.

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Speaker 4: You're bringing me down. There's a line like your your

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your mayor has become like a millionaire king, like not

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paying ba's and something like that. Like it's so oh.

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Speaker 1: Man, I like this song choice a lot more.

470
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,599
Speaker 4: You know what I'm after this. Someone made a fan

471
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,799
edit of that with this trailer. I'm gonna bring that

472
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,759
up to We're gonna watch it after. I'm gonna see

473
00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:35,440
if I'm convinced because you were watching on the trailer,

474
00:19:35,559 --> 00:19:38,039
the the leaked Shaky Camo trailer.

475
00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that was a bad bad angle. Also

476
00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:42,359
really discern everything that's going on.

477
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,880
Speaker 4: I know, Nam it's Peter Parker.

478
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 1: He don't remember me, but looking like.

479
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,839
Speaker 5: We used to know each other.

480
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 1: He's looking like what sorry, a drug dealer.

481
00:19:52,799 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 4: He's looking like a drug deal People have been saying

482
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,559
he looks like Bully maguire.

483
00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,319
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I don't again, like I there was

484
00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:04,119
a phone on him there, he got a dining bag

485
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,000
of coke or something. He's just he's doing a deal here.

486
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 4: I just wish unless he was cool, I wish they

487
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,839
just didn't make him wear of the wig anymore, you know,

488
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,119
like he's balding in my life, just loving ned be bald.

489
00:20:13,279 --> 00:20:17,839
It's like like the young people are bald, Like I

490
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,519
think that's the trend, be like, but it's a young

491
00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:21,359
people are bald all the time. They're balding. It's her

492
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,079
in age is like, he can just be bald. He

493
00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:24,440
doesn't have to wear this fucking two bay.

494
00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:27,839
Speaker 1: But whatever, maybe it's part of the character now it'll

495
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,359
be like a big reveal moment.

496
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,759
Speaker 4: Maybe like fuck, what movie is that? And I guess

497
00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:35,440
it's probably multiple movies. So do you also this? Remember

498
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,359
this is I didn't hit place. I just heard you

499
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,039
don't remember me because it clutched for me. This is

500
00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:44,559
clearly the diner she worked at. In no way home.

501
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,519
Speaker 1: Right, I would say, so yes?

502
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 4: So is this so? I don't know to give this

503
00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:51,680
guy the benefit of that or not. I don't know.

504
00:20:51,839 --> 00:20:53,960
Is this that he go something happens in their life

505
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,720
and he's going their check on him, or is this

506
00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:58,480
fucking guy punishing himself and going there like every time

507
00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:00,160
he needs a fucking donut of coffee, he's going on

508
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,839
there the ladder, that fuck man psychopath. Not saying that

509
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,720
we haven't been there, but it's just like that's like

510
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,880
that's bad mental health mentality, Peter, just like to put

511
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,519
yourself through that constantly.

512
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,759
Speaker 1: And I can't even like give them the bene of

513
00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:14,359
a doubt. It's like, oh, it's probably not that long

514
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,200
from the last movie, like ned here looks so different.

515
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,519
Confess we seen him last.

516
00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 4: They confirmed it four years.

517
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fuck I mean four.

518
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 4: Years he's going to fucking diner.

519
00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,799
Speaker 1: I'm hoping there's an incident that like, Okay, I gotta

520
00:21:28,839 --> 00:21:32,160
check on them because my boy just move on at

521
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,000
this point. Yeah, go fuck black Cat guy too, Peter Parker,

522
00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:35,839
Tom Holland, you know.

523
00:21:35,839 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, especially when we get on the trailer, he's

524
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,519
fucking jacked.

525
00:21:39,599 --> 00:21:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

526
00:21:39,839 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 4: But again, my my point of Spider Man, he can't

527
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,599
go get tail like in a relationship because it's the

528
00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:46,400
same thing. So I get hurt, right, that's where black

529
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,799
Cat's for. She's just down to.

530
00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: Like dock boots and yeah, you know, flinging and sling

531
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,880
it recreational intercourse.

532
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,839
Speaker 4: It's a thing, not Spider Man sides.

533
00:21:54,039 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we used to know each other.

534
00:21:58,759 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: That bruise on his thigh. Those the first thing I

535
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,079
noticed in this.

536
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:08,519
Speaker 4: From black Cat. Peter really like though, him washing the

537
00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:10,640
suit and for some reason, when it closes, like zooms

538
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,359
up into the suit, it looks fucking good. I don't

539
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,599
know why. In the water again, it's just because like

540
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,640
how good the suit looks practical. But when they up,

541
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,799
I'm like, yeah, that's a fucking spirement out for right there.

542
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: You know this fucking like crack pot here. This is

543
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,839
probably Oh yeah, he cooks up his dope.

544
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 4: That's actually why he's at that diner. He's not there

545
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,640
to see them. He's just getting smacked from Ned. I

546
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,960
think was going to happen that right, So pause right there, Uh,

547
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,839
we won't stick on it too long. It's a Daredevil spoiler.

548
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,559
Keep going. Was to make everyone I forget. Actually pause

549
00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:42,960
it's before I go because me and Brent were talking

550
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,759
about in the jew a chat and he was like,

551
00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:47,240
I'm just really opening it to spoil anything, and Dared

552
00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:49,359
I'm like, nah, like, now that's not gonna be a thing.

553
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,920
What do you want me to say? What it is?

554
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: Yes?

555
00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:53,279
Speaker 4: Okay, So everyone if you don't want an spoils for

556
00:22:53,319 --> 00:22:55,799
Da dar Double season two. It's not a massive spoil,

557
00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:58,640
but skip ahead. I'd say about a minute. Who gives

558
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,000
this key to the city Kirkland?

559
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,799
Speaker 1: Who is this chick?

560
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 4: She's from Daredevil season one. You'll she'll you remember when

561
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,519
we get to season.

562
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:07,839
Speaker 2: Two, lawyer.

563
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: It's not the lawyer friend, is it.

564
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 4: No, it's like she's on fifteen. But who gives the

565
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,640
key to the city Kirkland? Two people usually the mayor,

566
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,160
the mayor, so and who's the mayor? Fisk is no

567
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,640
longer in the mayor and this is the woman that.

568
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,759
Speaker 1: With the rest of the class.

569
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Daredevil's season one, she's the one that was like,

570
00:23:24,759 --> 00:23:26,920
remember the cop that got his head caved in, was like,

571
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,759
come on, turn with me, like work with me. But

572
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,000
she doesn't go with him, like she kind of she

573
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,279
wants to, but she kind of turns her back on him.

574
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,720
So this shows that she's gonna become mayor and Fisk

575
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:39,480
is done and they and they did. They specifically said

576
00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:42,359
the showrunners while the promoing Daredevil, they said, oh yeah,

577
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,680
Sperman takes place after Daredevil. So I think it's when

578
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,559
we get to our predictions. I think it's all good

579
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,039
for Wilson Fisk.

580
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: Now, you know, she could just be in the position

581
00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:54,279
for him, you know, while he's taking care of business. Sure,

582
00:23:54,319 --> 00:23:57,599
who knows. There could be explanations, but because I guess.

583
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,599
Speaker 4: I didn't say mayor, but I'm gonna say.

584
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: Interesting choice to show this in this trailer, like if

585
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,799
that is actually a spoiler, like yeah, necessary, Why do

586
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:07,240
we have to see him getting the key to the

587
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,519
city in this specific trailer?

588
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 4: Well, because you know what, I hate to say it

589
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,039
to everybody, you know, walk with me, sure, and someone's

590
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:17,960
gonna counteract with me, right, They're gonna be make Travis

591
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:20,400
John Berthen's on this trailer. He was in Daredevil, He's

592
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,200
a punisher Penitation, He's in this movie. They still those

593
00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:26,200
TV shows now in Disney. Plus, I don't think they're

594
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,000
really gonna have any bearing whatsoever, because why if Fisk

595
00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:34,839
is just stroying ones like Disney not all, but I

596
00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:37,759
think like these street level ones and maybe even going

597
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:39,799
for Disney plus ones because I think they've found out,

598
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:42,200
which we all kind of admit that not many people

599
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:44,640
watch both, right, the hardcores do, but the ga kind

600
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,319
of gave up after the first year, Like they watched WandaVision,

601
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,680
they watched Loki watch Winter Soldier and then guess what,

602
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:52,279
COVID ended and everyone got a fucking life, you know that,

603
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,839
and honestly too though the other shows that fold weren't

604
00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:56,119
as good, right, so I think a lot of people

605
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,440
checked out. But I think that's the problem where now

606
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,319
with Daredevil when it's like, oh, but how are they

607
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:02,440
gonna explain this and this and weh're's spier man, They're not.

608
00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:04,519
They're not gonna give a shit. They're not gonna They

609
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:07,079
might have a throwaway line, but I think those shows

610
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,119
are gonna operate a lot like Netflix used to be worried.

611
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Now they're like, yeah, we're at the table, so maybe

612
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:12,799
you can do things where it's like, yeah, John Berthell

613
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,039
actually gets to be in a movie. But there's never

614
00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:17,119
gonna be like a storyline from a show again, like

615
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,799
a big storyline that sets up that Again, there's too

616
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:21,920
many people that got fucked up from multiverse a madness.

617
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:24,240
How many people if you didn't watch WandaVision and you

618
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,880
watch that movie, you're like, she said, our kids, Like

619
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:29,440
what the fuck happened? Like like that's the thing, Like

620
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,599
I don't think anything big will ever happen those shows ever. Again.

621
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,680
That's like, so right now Mayor Fisk has New York

622
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:38,319
under like he has ice fucking running around right now,

623
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,599
and there right we're spider Man. Why spier Man not

624
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:43,559
having at Murdock. He's just going like slapping cheeks with

625
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,240
black Cat while this is all happened.

626
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: What's going It's getting bruises, man.

627
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:52,279
Speaker 4: Geez, Peter, you wanna help us. I'm a little bit

628
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:54,920
he's doing.

629
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: He's doing under understandable. You got to make up for

630
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,799
the void of m Jane is like, could.

631
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 4: You imagine that everyone forgets you could pause one more

632
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,400
time a little runt here? Could you just imagine she

633
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,799
gets her memory back and she's like, yeah, I was

634
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:11,559
saying this guy but like I never slept with him there,

635
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,640
I just knew there's I didn't know you were around,

636
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,920
but I just couldn't be with anyone else. And then

637
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,960
it's just revealed he's just been like banging Felicia Hardy

638
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,240
and like Gwen Stacy for like just the whole time.

639
00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:23,559
Yeah that we're not dating, we're just like and like

640
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,279
Gwen has a baby bump all the su Yeah no,

641
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,920
they're nothing like I've been waiting for you. But do

642
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,880
you know something about her hair in this trailer.

643
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: Looks very dark, doesn't look red at all.

644
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,039
Speaker 4: There is tinges of red if if you look certain shots,

645
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:37,400
you see red. So it looks like there's kind of

646
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,039
like a red I don't know, kind of some some

647
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:42,759
touch ups or a line. I don't know what the

648
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,680
I don't know what women would call what would that call?

649
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,960
Like just some fringes, yeah, highlights? Yeah sure, but yeah,

650
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,480
there's definitely some red in this trailer. So it's not

651
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:53,079
full red, but I'll take it. I'll take it.

652
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are these guys just cuddling on the couch

653
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,119
like this? What's going on here?

654
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,039
Speaker 4: Well, she's a boy friend, so yeah, I think they

655
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:05,640
lived together. Oh okay, yeah about me?

656
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't see the red.

657
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,319
Speaker 4: I believe you it's gonna happen again. They'll come up again.

658
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:14,200
I thought you were buying the MJ ned thing. Just

659
00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:16,680
sit there because Taylor. He's on this cast, but he

660
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,319
got fooled by an AI image today. He saw someone.

661
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Happens to the best of us. Kate Taylor, we've all

662
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:23,839
been there.

663
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,759
Speaker 4: It's never happened to me on air. So I'll pull

664
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,400
it up here, Taylor. Someone replaced the boyfriend with Ned.

665
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,079
And he's like, I didn't even notice that.

666
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: It's not even a good edit.

667
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,839
Speaker 4: No, it's not even good. Like look at Ned. That

668
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,920
ain't Ned. That ain't fucking Ned right there?

669
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: This arm is also like ginormous in that image. His

670
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:43,400
forearm is yeah, it is is bigger than his bicep.

671
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:43,880
It's crazy.

672
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: But no, I don't think they're I don't think they're

673
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:50,200
knocking boots. So just friends again. Remember they're still just friends.

674
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,640
They just don't remember Peter Parker. They didn't get mine white.

675
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,359
They're still friends again. And we'll talk about Ned and

676
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,839
mj oh Okay, yeah, and well I'll point out Lair

677
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,319
on the trailer. They have a on one of their

678
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,920
rooms here. They have a wall of all Spider Man stuff,

679
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,519
like trying to find out who he is, No, trying

680
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:09,640
to find who he is, I think because remember they

681
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,279
still had all these interactions with Spider Man. They've just

682
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:14,680
forgotten Peter Parker because you know why the spell thing,

683
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,160
they didn't think it through. It's fucking dumb. It's dumb

684
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,480
in my opinion. So it's it's so flawed when you

685
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,519
break it down and you're like, well, how does this work?

686
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:25,839
And like what have all the yearbook like when they

687
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:28,920
see this guy and like what about like the same thing?

688
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,960
Like okay, doesn't happy Hogan Remember she had a niece

689
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,480
or he had he had a nephew, or she had

690
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,319
a nephew. You know, like it just yeah, but magic,

691
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,839
you know, right, movie magic. It's fine.

692
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want us to think about that.

693
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: Just just just focus, just consume and be happy.

694
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: It's just the case because I'm not just Peter Parker.

695
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 4: Spider Flipp you though, he's looking very very glossy there.

696
00:28:53,559 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Frank. Frank is so far awesome. He's so awesome,

697
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,440
especially you know, breaking the fourth wall. You know we're

698
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,279
going through I just going through season two. I finished

699
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:10,640
season two of the Retro or Punish Your Show, and

700
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,720
then we did like the movie versions. God, I just

701
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:16,440
love John Berthal's Punisher.

702
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 4: It really makes you appreciate him, right, really.

703
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:27,359
Speaker 1: Really yeah, just the voice, the attitude and no no

704
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:42,920
play old big playtle thing waiting.

705
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,839
Speaker 4: For people that don't know that's Frank Cat the audio listeners,

706
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:42,799
it's Frank Castle is all longer. He's in a trap

707
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,640
and how he gets out of it. They're about to

708
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,000
kill his friend and heamhage the way, Yeah I got

709
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,440
something to say. And then he breaks out him and

710
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,559
beats him. It's the most nonshalt like dumb, like why

711
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,799
would they check on him? Again? Check out the punish

712
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,720
of retro. It's great there, but yeah, birth all is

713
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,000
even just that like stop your whimper like that feels

714
00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:00,480
like from the animated series Again. I do people to

715
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,079
prepare themselves because I think they're gonna like lessen him

716
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:05,119
a little bit. But I'm okay with that, you know,

717
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,319
like you can't I agree?

718
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: I yeah, I agree. I think like early thoughts, like

719
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,720
when when this was first spoken about that he was

720
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:13,559
going to be a part of it, It's like, okay,

721
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,880
like how is it gonna actually go? But I'm I'm

722
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,480
totally fine with that. I feel like this trailer is

723
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,960
a good like representation of kind of what to expect.

724
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,759
How he's like about to drop an f bomb and

725
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:24,880
then spite he just like like mutes his mouth right there,

726
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,319
like like it's just a good like mixing of like

727
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,160
the very family friendly Peter Parker with like the brutality

728
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,119
that is Frank Castle.

729
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, but even in this truck, he's like kind of

730
00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:36,880
like play the clip, he's kinda like smiling when he

731
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,720
says this, you know.

732
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,759
Speaker 1: Like I do love the blady shoots his gun and

733
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,240
like on normal villains like that just like that like okay, yeah,

734
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,160
don't work anymore, and then Frank's gone though. It just

735
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,880
blows it right off.

736
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: Yah suit you So.

737
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: You're not equipment like Leon if that's what you're talking about.

738
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,799
Speaker 4: Yet not yet. That's he seems to be more jovial punisher.

739
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:04,759
So I wonder in the in the special, Yeah, so

740
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,440
we'll see. I get I'm okay at that. Just people

741
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,799
need to get ready. I think there's gonna be a

742
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,160
lot of people that are like, oh my pusher.

743
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:14,559
Speaker 2: So so.

744
00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: When do you think a pause after the motherfucker or

745
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,400
that's fine there? I wonder if they're going to establish

746
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,559
when how long they've known each other Not a big deal,

747
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:27,200
but obviously it's been four years. So I guess they've

748
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,039
just kind of mumped into each other at some point.

749
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,559
I guess I'm also just curious to why, because other

750
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,960
than in born again when they had to work together, right,

751
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,880
lots of times when Dared punsher square is off, it's like, oh,

752
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,039
things for helping, But Matt's still gonna lock him up, right,

753
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:44,359
He's like, you gotta go, you go to prison. I'm wondering.

754
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:46,759
I guess it's just because there's big danger happening right now.

755
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,519
I wonder where Spider Man's stance is on this, Like

756
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:52,240
if he had time, would he throw Frank to the

757
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:54,440
police or is he just find with Frank Murkin people

758
00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:56,559
you know? And I wonder if the over answer that.

759
00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: Peter, Well, Peter doesn't do anything in this instance, right,

760
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,759
just fucks off and tells you, yeah home.

761
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: Well, I'm but I'm hoping there's maybe like something happening

762
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,559
where he can't arrest him, like there's a bomb or

763
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,079
like an attack happening where it's like, oh, I could

764
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,680
arrest Frank, but if I don't, hundreds of people might

765
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,400
die right that Because he's in a rush when he's

766
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,319
getting out of here, because like what he's just gonna

767
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,319
be like go home, Frank and the Frank just standing

768
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:19,839
in the middle of the street, like by him, He's

769
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:20,880
just leaving him by himself.

770
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Yeah, I'm curious to see how

771
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,200
that introduction goes or yeah, like would they be there

772
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,119
like bold and not even really show that like they

773
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,839
just know each other.

774
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: They could do that. I could see that. And honestly though,

775
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680
like from the interaction, like I'm just pointing these things out,

776
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,960
I love the interaction. I'm very excited for this dynamic.

777
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,839
It's just little things that I will that those are

778
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,799
type of details that'll get it from like you know,

779
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,119
maybe like a nine nine too, like a ten. I'm like, okay,

780
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,279
you fill in the stuff. Like again, I think it's

781
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:50,440
a valid question. Would would Peter Parker if it's just

782
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,160
him and Frank in a room? Because I think for

783
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,160
the most time, if it's just Frank, he'll fuck him up.

784
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:56,400
Would he have him arrested? I don't know. I would

785
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,880
like to, And I'm not saying there's a right or wrong.

786
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,440
I would just like to know Tom All and Spider Man,

787
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,119
like how does he feel in that issue? How does

788
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:03,599
he feel about And I guess that's maybe we're all

789
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:05,599
playing with Hulk, right, because if we hear Hulk breaks

790
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:07,960
out and maybe Frank's solution is to kill him, That's

791
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,680
where hopefully that plays into it. So I just want

792
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,640
that answer to like how does Spider Man literally just

793
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,480
feel about the Punisher? Not you know Frank cast is,

794
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,440
Like how does he feel about the guy who instead

795
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,200
of arresting a mob boss or a criminal, he just

796
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,119
blows his head away?

797
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,359
Speaker 2: You know?

798
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,279
Speaker 4: How does he feel?

799
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,559
Speaker 1: And like I'm wondering, like how much he's even aware

800
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,920
of the Punisher, Like does he know all about his

801
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,319
history and how brutal of you know, just his origin,

802
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,920
like Frank Castle in this universe should be it should

803
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,160
be a pretty like renowned story, right, family just murdered

804
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,680
in front of him.

805
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: In season one, Remember they thought he was dead and

806
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,000
came back and that was a big deal. So they

807
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,759
should know and they should they could cut touch on

808
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,119
that trauma, right, Like, That's where I feel like they

809
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,839
I'm giving them credit that hopefully they do it. I

810
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,720
feel like that's why Punisher is in here. Not only

811
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:56,359
is he raging Bowl, but both these characters have lost everything, right,

812
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,680
and then you get to see how they deal with

813
00:33:57,759 --> 00:33:59,559
it separately. I don't think Frank's simma be at the

814
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880
end like fucking smile and then going to hang out

815
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,519
with Could you imagine the movie just ends with Peter MJ.

816
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,960
Ned and just Punish like they're watching some fucking movie

817
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:08,840
or so they're watching.

818
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: Shoot each other with water guns or something. They have

819
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:11,880
him like a pool party.

820
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 4: Frank comes out of the fucking big like spasooka water

821
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,599
gun like houndaball, but he's the second Ned does a cannibal.

822
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,360
He like gets shell shock, PTS what I and He's like,

823
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,599
He's like, no, Ned, and just cut. Imagine the movie

824
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,440
ends cutting to black with Punisher having Ned in a

825
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,719
choke hoold and Peter's way, no Frank, and then cut

826
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,440
to black and we don't know what happens for like

827
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:33,159
six years.

828
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,519
Speaker 1: Alright, that would be insane.

829
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: That's continue to love this go.

830
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 4: I'm excited though. I'm happy John's gonna big movie because

831
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,559
sometimes Spider Man has.

832
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: To do the whole.

833
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: Okay, if you go back a little bit, it might

834
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,719
be in another shot. Go back, dude, like the small

835
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,400
It's okay, go back a little bit. When he just

836
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:54,920
before he enters that room, I'll tell you when hipause

837
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,400
a ready, guns, oh, let him go walk a little more.

838
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,159
I's wrong, They're right there, So I think it happens

839
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:03,920
later on in the room. But behind him that you

840
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,920
see that wall with the light and papers on it,

841
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,960
that's supposed to be they have Viider Man. They have

842
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,639
a bunch of Spiderman magazines and stuff like that. So

843
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,800
I think what's happened is they have all these memories

844
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:17,280
of helping Spider Man, being with Spiderman. But that's where

845
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239
I hope with the spell. I hope it's not just

846
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,880
like an insta like what was happening with Happy Hogan

847
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,960
of like I really like Dent Man. She did a

848
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,199
lot of good and he didn't even remember he had nephew, right.

849
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:28,559
I would love it if they were like, we remember

850
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,679
like interacting with Spider Man, but a lot of it

851
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,800
does not make any sense, And that would actually make

852
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,599
me be invested them trying to find out. Right if

853
00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:36,920
they're like, yeah, this guy like he was around for

854
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:39,920
all fucking school whatnot? Like even if NED was like

855
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,280
I remember helping on missions, why is this guy not

856
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,920
around anymore? So I kind of hope they're like, something's

857
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,159
off with our memory and has to do a Spider Man.

858
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,320
Even if they even she's like a little bit of

859
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,679
that sense, I would enjoy that because it's just a

860
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,239
good bridge instead of just Okay, Ned's obsessed with Spider Man. Cool,

861
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,280
we've been there before, you know.

862
00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think that would make me personally

863
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,559
a lot more in the overall, just like getting them

864
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:06,199
back because like we all, we all thought they were

865
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,320
gonna go in that direction. Anyways, it's like, Okay, well

866
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,119
they don't remember Spider Man, Well they're gonna like you know,

867
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,480
like like like it's were bringing her back. Yeah, she's

868
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,239
definitely gonna know. But if they do that, you know

869
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,480
in a way that I'm actually enjoying it. I feel

870
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,639
like I have a feeling I'll probably pass this movie

871
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:25,440
no matter what, just because I'm a big spidy head. Yeah,

872
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,039
I'll be sold on it. Frank's in there, so like,

873
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,239
no matter what, it's probably like a guaranteed eight regardless

874
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,880
of what happens. But uh, I, like you said earlier

875
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,719
about just like going from a nine point five to ten,

876
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,639
like those little things can definitely make make the difference.

877
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: And speaking and go next club because big moment here,

878
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,679
I think sometimes.

879
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,559
Speaker 1: Look at that red hair. That's not red at all.

880
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,880
You're it's red lunch.

881
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: You're watching a bad quality there's red highlights in it.

882
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: Chat back me on I'm on ten ADPA, but.

883
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: Your computer's broken. You took you as I hope. So

884
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,440
there's tinges of red.

885
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:02,199
Speaker 1: They got some booze here. This is crazy.

886
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: They around a big party. Yeah. Mj is also wearing

887
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,920
an outfit that's very similar to the first appearance of

888
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,320
Mary Jane Watson the combook. So you're you're it's your

889
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,079
lucky day Tiger, just the jackpot. So, but there's some

890
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,119
red pilots in there. I'm telling you. They're light, but

891
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:18,440
they're in there. Your man has to do the hard

892
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,719
thing even if it breaks. Okay, so pause here.

893
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,519
Speaker 1: That's not read at all.

894
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: Man.

895
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 4: That doesn't look red, and I'll give you that in

896
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,199
something well like in these movies are in the comics.

897
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:34,679
Speaker 1: Quite down as bubbs. We're not asking me.

898
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: I think Kirk colorblind.

899
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: You just agreed that that this one doesn't look red.

900
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,159
Speaker 4: Not this one, but he saw the red earlier. We

901
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,719
don't know his character's name, so we don't know if

902
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,480
he's from the comics or not. There's like a boyfriend

903
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:49,039
MJ had recently named Paul everyone fucking hated. You know,

904
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,239
I make these jokes and they are just jokes. But man,

905
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:56,360
if these two are like again, it's k two things

906
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,400
from the character of Peter Parker. He's a say too,

907
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,000
Matt satamatic. What is it satomatistic? Right, satamatic?

908
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: What are you trying to say?

909
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:09,199
Speaker 4: Satumatchistic? I think that's how it is, just someone that

910
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,519
enjoys pain. If he is wait, no, it's it's a

911
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,920
thing satam anachistic. So either search it up.

912
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: Or I'm gonna get it.

913
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you if because at one point in the

914
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,360
trailer she said, oh, like our neighbor, if if he's

915
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,280
living even you know, let's say three doors down, shut

916
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,239
the three doors down. You got the word there, satamnachistic,

917
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,079
Right did I get that time?

918
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: Sat amanachistic, sato man sado mass achism. There you go, sadism,

919
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,159
sexual arousal from inflicting pain and mess.

920
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,119
Speaker 4: So so for short, I'm so for sure, I'm just

921
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,559
gonna say he's a he's an sm right.

922
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: There you go. That's the origin of SMM.

923
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,599
Speaker 4: Oh is it okay? So he's am sm is SMM

924
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,960
because if he is three doors down and he is,

925
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:02,599
he doesn't remember him, and I'm gonna say they're in college,

926
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,840
So I'm gonna say in college that they're knocking boots,

927
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,960
they're doing some dping. So he like he's just getting

928
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,440
back from crime fighting. And then with his spiders, like

929
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:15,719
he is enhanced, hearing, enhance all that stuff. He's gonna

930
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,880
be trying to go to bed and he'sa MJ. He's

931
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:22,800
hearing MJ. Maybe Paul.

932
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,639
Speaker 1: That's I'm hoping. He's making his own noises with Felicia Hardy,

933
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,559
like we're saying he won't be equal equal noise.

934
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: He won't because he's pathetic.

935
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,519
Speaker 2: He's been hearing that.

936
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: He's gonna hear the the this conumn going on. He's

937
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,239
gonna hear breaking, he's gonna hear squishing, he's gonna hear

938
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,719
hair pulling, he's gonna hear It's different if they're just

939
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,239
making if they're together, but if he is legitimately their

940
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,519
neighbor and they like live on the same war, this

941
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,639
man is fucking punishing out himself to non degree. Now

942
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,119
does that.

943
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:53,079
Speaker 1: Four years four years of this?

944
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? And does that fit into the Tom Hall narrative

945
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,599
of like why is Tom holl never fucking like getting

946
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:00,440
like why is he not doing anything big? Like you

947
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,239
see Challengers, you see every clip I see of the

948
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,079
or in April the drama, the movie, there's that clip

949
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:08,960
of her fucking Ryan the hell out of our passing,

950
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:11,159
and then you get now this guy in Spider Man.

951
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,320
So now literally you have the scene here where Tom

952
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Hollands in a party scene and I'm not sure if

953
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,440
they're gonna kiss here, but I think we're gonna watch

954
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,400
a move where Tom Holmes just watching this man kiss

955
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,760
his wife. Now if that's fine, that's fine. I'm not

956
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,039
trying to be a tear thing. They're actors, they get it,

957
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,559
but like it feels a little one sided. That's why

958
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:28,679
it's kind of like why can't Tom hall hang get

959
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,079
like some sort of black Cat or a Spider Gwen

960
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:32,760
going on here? You know. So I just laugh though,

961
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,800
like just like just because I actually give no shits

962
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,679
about on meming because of the meme of Tom Holland's

963
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:40,800
a strong man, the fact they literally did that in

964
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,920
this movie, and him watching his wife like about to

965
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,840
mago another dude, they literally did that in this movie.

966
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,920
So it's funny. But yeah, I wonder because this head

967
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,159
graves like they could easily just be flirting, right, they

968
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,000
might not even be like a couple yet or anything.

969
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:56,280
So I kind of hope that's the route. I don't

970
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,760
need him to be the boyfriend because I feel like

971
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,480
that's like, if she remembers, I don't need a break

972
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,360
up with him. Just make him a flirtation guy. Maybe

973
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,360
he's a charming, cute guy that's you know, getting closer

974
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,519
to MJ. And that really puts in Peter's head of like,

975
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:10,719
oh fuck, like she's actually gonna move on now, you know.

976
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,039
So because what have they've been dating for four years?

977
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,960
What if they've been dating for four years? She gets

978
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,119
her memory back, like.

979
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: You don't even know her for four years?

980
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's no right, he has no right.

981
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,679
Speaker 1: That's no right. I agree.

982
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 5: It's Peter Parker's heart. What is happening.

983
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 4: It's looking bad the net.

984
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:39,159
Speaker 1: After hearing, after hearing the night the nightmares for four years.

985
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,519
Speaker 4: That's why he's going to net. He's getting drugs to

986
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:45,039
drown it out, just to get you know whatever. So yeah, exactly,

987
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,000
he's coming. I suppose we were talking about he's hearing

988
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,079
come to me more. Kevin David was interesting. He says, trailers, okay,

989
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,039
international audience will push the film to make seven nine

990
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:56,880
hundred million. I think seven hundred guarantee. I maybe I'm wrong.

991
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,880
I think this is a billion guaranteed, Devin. I put

992
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,400
your names there again, they're Kevin. The only reason is

993
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,599
just because it's been five years since Snoway Home. I

994
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:07,840
think Zendaea is bigger. I think Tom, even though he's

995
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,719
not done much more like I think people just it's

996
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,440
not as bigger. I think people genuinely miss Spider Man

997
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,719
and they missed Tom Holme being Spider Man. I think

998
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,199
it would be different if he was an other crossover movies,

999
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,159
like if there was an Avengers or something like that.

1000
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,679
But he's literally been gone since December twenty twenty one

1001
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,880
for Spider Man. So I actually think unless it's bad reviewed,

1002
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,280
I actually think it. I'm not gonna say easy bill,

1003
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,519
but I'm gonna say an easy bill. I'm gonna throw

1004
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:31,960
a T T Y And they're like, I think even

1005
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,079
if it's just like a one point, because let me

1006
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:35,880
look and see what the other ones made while you're

1007
00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:37,679
talking there, but yeah, what do you think about it?

1008
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:39,880
Do you think this is after we've seen a first trailer?

1009
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Now?

1010
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: Are you thinking it's a billion?

1011
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: I think so. I agree with your points. I think

1012
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,679
there's been enough time since the last Spidey and like

1013
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,880
that's the Mount Rushmore MCU characters and we only have

1014
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,679
so many of those.

1015
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,199
Speaker 4: Did you say he's one of ver he is?

1016
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: He's one of.

1017
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I think it is. I'm like, well, no, his

1018
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,800
name is not iron Man, as much as I don't like.

1019
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: Iron Yeah, I don't know, but well, I was gonna say,

1020
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:04,639
like he's one of them, and he's one of the

1021
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:06,760
only ones that's remaining, but not really because we're getting

1022
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,800
Downy back, We're getting Evan's back, not Rushmore's going nowhere,

1023
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,159
but still Spidey. All the other reasons that we've already

1024
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:18,000
brought up, like the more family or oriented type nature

1025
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:19,679
of the character, I feel like it ropes in just

1026
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,400
a whole wider range of audience. And you know, Zendia

1027
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:26,719
is super super hot right now, but like also Tom Holland,

1028
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,159
he's still he's still fantastic and people still love like

1029
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,599
the just the boyish charm that I think he brings

1030
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:32,199
to the character.

1031
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, like to me, This is where I pushed back, like,

1032
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:35,840
even I know it was a big deal because of

1033
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,599
the MCU being hot when he came in, But like Homecoming,

1034
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:41,119
the first one made eight hundred and seventy eight million dollars,

1035
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,159
and to me, like, I think this one has more

1036
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,880
hype than that in my opinion, And then Far from

1037
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,880
Home made one point one billion, and then knowing Homemade

1038
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,239
one point nine obviously there's a big buffer there because

1039
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,679
of all the returning characters, right, but like that Far

1040
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,960
From Home number, like even if it made like one

1041
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,679
point zero three billion, like I think it's I think

1042
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,159
the Far From Home number is that's the number, looking

1043
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,599
even though I would if I were to take the

1044
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:07,159
over and under, I would say it'd make more than

1045
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,840
one point one billion, Like I don't know. Minecraft almost

1046
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,119
made a billion, Stitch made a billion, like I think

1047
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,159
people will. And it's in the summer too. I think

1048
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:15,559
that will be the movie that eats up a lot,

1049
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,239
Like I think a one point one billion is a

1050
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,599
lock for me. Yeah, there you go, all right, so

1051
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:29,880
we get some him transforming here, Oh those nipples that

1052
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:36,400
looking good? Uh sure? I well, no, you keep going.

1053
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,639
Speaker 1: So he has he has like the Night tear and

1054
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:40,519
then this is him waking up, which.

1055
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,039
Speaker 4: Is weird because I guess he must have been in

1056
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:44,280
his suit because he goes use his webshooters and they're

1057
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,079
not there, but they kept his boxers on, so good

1058
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:49,119
for him. But yeah, this is nighttairs and I think

1059
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:51,599
he's having his mutation. But this is the cutaway. Watched

1060
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:54,159
the a pause here, Okay, so like yeah and you

1061
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,760
hear yeah, you hear it, so like why why not

1062
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,519
just show it them?

1063
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: Just show it?

1064
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 4: Like pan up, like well, like you gave it away,

1065
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,320
you gave the chrick away.

1066
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: They like, als, would he stop? Yeah, you're so right? Yeah,

1067
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,960
like unless unless another Spidy character webs him.

1068
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: I guess nick Age from Spider or what's up Bader?

1069
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,719
But like, uh, Summan, Mike, I don't agree with this,

1070
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,199
he says. I think there's a chance this makes more

1071
00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:20,239
than Doomsday. I would not take that, or I would

1072
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,760
take Mike, if you want to make that pizza bet,

1073
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,480
I would make that pizza bet that dooms Day. I

1074
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:26,719
know Dune's out, but I think with Doomsday with all

1075
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,639
his characters coming back and the Christmas month, like you

1076
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,079
never know, Like I don't think it's impossible, but I

1077
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,679
think it's close to impossible. Kirkham, are you on that?

1078
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Do you think it could make more than Doomsday?

1079
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: Uh? I think he could be close, but I I

1080
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,119
don't think so. I think I think Doomsday still takes

1081
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:44,280
it all right.

1082
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,639
Speaker 4: Continue, Oh and Tom's looking at a fucking huge movie.

1083
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,199
He looking good on your boy, kidding those bureaus. And

1084
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,079
that's also the clean body too. He's kind of all

1085
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:55,360
that alcohol, I know, but yeah, good on man, he's

1086
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,800
looking looking good. It's been gv big club in the

1087
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,079
font and the collar. Excuse me, doctor Banner, I need

1088
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:04,480
your health.

1089
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,199
Speaker 1: What did you say your name was?

1090
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: What did you say your name was? Excuse me, doctor Banner?

1091
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: Yes? You y s U? Yeah?

1092
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 4: That I don't know, but makes sense for him to

1093
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,760
go to uh Banner. You know, guy that's constantly had

1094
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,280
problems with his body and mutating and stuff. So I

1095
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,400
think that's a good tie in there.

1096
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:24,519
Speaker 1: On.

1097
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 4: It's not a web shooter, no you remember that is?

1098
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember? Does it help him turn.

1099
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, and Andrews and Seahawk he made a device

1100
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,719
where he can keep him with that device staying on. Yeah,

1101
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,639
and Frank's gonna fucking I need your health. Freak it

1102
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:44,440
that it does. That looks like a fake. He looks

1103
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:46,519
very video gaming and he's like, Hi, hell, can I

1104
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,280
help you? He looks like a CGI person.

1105
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,199
Speaker 1: There totally the Avengers game.

1106
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:57,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, is mutating.

1107
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: Like look at him there this go back his shoulders. Man,

1108
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:02,679
he's working hard. So yeah, look he's he's got the

1109
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,480
middle of it too. He's looking in the try it

1110
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:07,800
the triceps back there. Boom, Okay, that's fair, Mike, I

1111
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,079
everyone will. I jumped to Michael, but he said a

1112
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,800
chance like fifteen percent. You know what, that's fair. That

1113
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,639
that's fair. I would give you that because like there's

1114
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:16,840
always a chance that doom really fucks it up. Like

1115
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,199
let's say, and I've said this before. I think we

1116
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:21,800
said this last week. I think dooms they could be

1117
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,199
like a ten to ten. It could also be a

1118
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,519
two out of ten. It could be a movie that

1119
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:26,679
word of like word of mouth spreads, it's like, oh

1120
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,199
these movies, this adventure movie really stinks, you know, So

1121
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,599
I'll take you that. You know, there's a chance, So

1122
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,159
there you go, and it's mutating.

1123
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 5: Ituld be enormously dangerous.

1124
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: Spiders have three life.

1125
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 4: I love that you have him visiting. That's cool if

1126
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,840
you want to go back to that chairs that's supposedly saved.

1127
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: Sink when between cycles, no hitting, go back a chance again,

1128
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:58,840
despite of vulnerable spiders have three life cycles.

1129
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,639
Speaker 4: Right there, it is either Sadie Sink or it might

1130
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:04,840
be Peter because he is into the same amnarchistic No,

1131
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,880
because he's in the same anarchistic He's just in there

1132
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,280
and he's watching footage of that.

1133
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: He traps himself in this room clockwork.

1134
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,559
Speaker 4: Or no, he's reliving it. He's like Memento. He just

1135
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:21,079
doesn't go back a little bit too. There's this shot

1136
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:24,199
of Peter with the webs is clearly go back a

1137
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:28,519
little bit more, a little more. This is clearly him

1138
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:31,440
trying to hold onto the Hulk, like watch the animation

1139
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:33,320
of it, so him play now, yeah, we're good here,

1140
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:33,760
thank you.

1141
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,559
Speaker 5: If DNA is mutating, it would be enormously dangerous.

1142
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 4: See yeah, well I think shot himself. No, that's what

1143
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,719
they're making a look. No, I think that's what they're

1144
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,840
making it look like. I think he's holding onto Hulk

1145
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,480
jumps because if he sling shots himself. Kirkland, he's been

1146
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:51,280
Spider Man for like a decade. Why is he going

1147
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,719
through the fucking water barrel?

1148
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Like he's not used to his new natural webshooters.

1149
00:48:56,159 --> 00:48:57,599
Speaker 4: Can you go back? Can you go back? And let's

1150
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,760
hear the dialogue that precedes the scene as like the

1151
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,480
four shadow, Yeah right here, Yeah.

1152
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: If DNA is mutating, it could be enormously dangerous.

1153
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: And they cut this. Come on, come on, yeah, enormously dangerous,

1154
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,760
enormously dangerous.

1155
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of Hulk like sound of animations.

1156
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 4: Can you Yeah, I'm telling yeah, I like the thing.

1157
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: So, I mean, is it like confirmed what Sadi you

1158
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:29,719
think is?

1159
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,679
Speaker 4: Okay, she's Jane Gray, but it's not confirmed. I think

1160
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,079
she I agree with the reports.

1161
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: Seems like a Jean Gray type prison.

1162
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: Or Peter Parker right now, I got those two. Oh

1163
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:44,079
you're just cut off your powers. No, they just they

1164
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:45,519
just keep me on a chair so I can watch

1165
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:48,360
some stuff. But yeah, like it's this like technically, people

1166
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,119
point out the scene the next thing you're gonna play

1167
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:53,079
where it's her jumping bodies. They're like, that's not really

1168
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:54,760
a Jean Green thing, because like, why wouldn't she just

1169
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,039
control one person? She would have to like jump from

1170
00:49:57,039 --> 00:49:59,400
one body to another. But it's like, I don't know,

1171
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,119
it's the fucking to you. They're doing their own thing

1172
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,400
like the same way, Like it's movie. That's an option.

1173
00:50:03,679 --> 00:50:05,519
So when I'm not gonna take that.

1174
00:50:06,639 --> 00:50:09,119
Speaker 2: I can't leave despite a vulnerable the threats.

1175
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, the people have been like Jane Gray doesn't do

1176
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,440
this and like control sure, but I can't even see stay.

1177
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:21,480
So there's Peter watching his footage. I don't know if

1178
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,239
it is she's the way she's moving doesn't feel like

1179
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,519
Sadie Sink to me. The height matches up and not

1180
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,480
the way she's moving. I agree like that it's a

1181
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,440
great show. To Keith David, I agree with people that

1182
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:35,000
said that it's probably just like him watching a YouTube

1183
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:36,920
video or something. But man, I saw a great fan

1184
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,880
cast and like, could you imagine if he was this

1185
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,199
world super Kirk Connors. I was like, fuck, yeah, man,

1186
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,639
Keith Davis, Kirk Connors would be great. But I don't

1187
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:50,960
think we're getting that. But yeah, Keith David, amazing guy.

1188
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 5: Stay out of my way.

1189
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, man, scorpions looking good now. Of course I'd

1190
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,559
like a helmet on the guy, but that's okay. I'm

1191
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:00,400
lik in that outfit.

1192
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: Maybe get a helmet, right, Like maybe it's just for dialogue,

1193
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,239
maybe like or something.

1194
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 4: He's one of those fucking nanotech ones. So I'm hoping

1195
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,159
maybe a little bit more green. I'd like to brighten

1196
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,480
up a little bit, but like, overall, the suit looks

1197
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,320
good and you and may have talked about this. I'm

1198
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,760
a sucker for scorp I have added to our our list, yeh, Kirkham.

1199
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,199
But I thought for our bread and butter, we should

1200
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,119
do a ranking of Spider Man villains, like make the

1201
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,320
tier list. We should do that because I feel like we,

1202
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,159
you and I share something like on Scorpion Rhino, Like

1203
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,440
some of these goons that get a lot don't get

1204
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,639
a lot of love. Scorpion of me is like, sure,

1205
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:32,159
he's a C tier villain, but he's like an A

1206
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,079
tier in my heart, you know, Like I fucking love

1207
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:34,760
the Scorpion.

1208
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: So I think his stalks on the rise as well,

1209
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:39,079
especially with the new version that we've seen with friendly

1210
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:40,079
neighborhood Spider Man.

1211
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 4: I just hope they don't shocker him in this movie,

1212
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,360
you know, like everyone.

1213
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:46,119
Speaker 1: Home did that in Homecoming.

1214
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 4: That's what I mean. Yeah, And I hope they don't

1215
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,159
do this scorny Scorpion. Like, I'm not saying he has

1216
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:52,760
to be the main Green Goblin villain, but I hope

1217
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,079
he's not. Just kind of like a joke and he

1218
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,400
gets taken out one or two fights, you know.

1219
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like let's let's buff up our street film because

1220
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:02,400
he has so many of them, and let's make them

1221
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,199
like actually entertaining, Like let's make them reoccurring. You know, well, yeah,

1222
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:07,920
next time Spider Man.

1223
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: And if anyone's like, oh, it's just Scorpion, and then

1224
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,440
it's like it's a fucking fake world. Make us so stronger,

1225
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,440
make it so stronger than Spider Man. You know, like

1226
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,800
you you back in the day you had the single

1227
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,880
a pencil, you could put anything on the fucking page,

1228
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,400
you know. So, same thing with the Geen Gray thing,

1229
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,280
Like Geen Crays never hopped minds like this.

1230
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,639
Speaker 1: So it's like, what this movie's gonna fail.

1231
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see says I've seen people theorizing that it's

1232
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,199
the Possession person talking to the scorp when he talks. Okay,

1233
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,519
go back, let's see what he says. Actually, see the

1234
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,239
line's up, I'm fucking.

1235
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 5: Stay out of my way.

1236
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be that's a very like generic thing though,

1237
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,800
but like it could.

1238
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 5: Be stay out of my way.

1239
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: This is the most like looking of the old trail

1240
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,760
chief that the song going on, and that shot of

1241
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,639
him and MJ's not great either. This stuff, yeah, this

1242
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:04,519
is some monot stuff kid, right, Yeah, there's some more flash.

1243
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:06,280
Oh you see the red now, eh, so what you're

1244
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:06,719
talking about?

1245
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: No, it's not red.

1246
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:11,199
Speaker 4: Okay, it is red though, but yeah, right, that background

1247
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,079
not looking good, even though it looks like the clock

1248
00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:15,840
tire that Emma Stone died at. So maybe look out there,

1249
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,280
Spider Man. But yeah, there's just something like that background.

1250
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,320
We need a couple more shades done on it. But

1251
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,679
you know, they got rush these movies out, so we

1252
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,320
might not get that.

1253
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, so two minutes and four seconds and in

1254
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,519
the other two minutes and two seconds.

1255
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:29,679
Speaker 2: There you go.

1256
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: They love it. They love some day at that mark

1257
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:32,719
they do.

1258
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: It's such a minor scene, but man, it still just

1259
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:36,840
irks me. I'm curious if I'm the only one that

1260
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,320
kind of feels that. I feel like I'm just still

1261
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,519
so shaking up from that Far from Home trailer and

1262
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:41,559
this just reminds me of it.

1263
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: I think I agree with you too, because I Espo

1264
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,159
said earlier. It could be true, right, because these could

1265
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:49,440
be all scenes minus one or two. But I really wish,

1266
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:53,119
like already I'm not like loving that Peter's interact with them,

1267
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:54,800
but okay, you're gonna do that there in the movie. Cool,

1268
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,480
and they have one scene maybe awkward. Fine, the fact

1269
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,960
that she's interacting with Spider Man again, it's like it

1270
00:54:01,039 --> 00:54:03,679
just also reminds me of just like with every third

1271
00:54:03,679 --> 00:54:05,840
act of the Token movie is oh, someone canaps MJ,

1272
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,840
you know, and that's where it's like, like, why can't

1273
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,920
it just be her and Peter or the guy that

1274
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,480
they don't know, you know, Like I don't know. We'll

1275
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,920
see again, We'll see how it is. This could be

1276
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,719
a fucking flashback though, right easily, and our minds could

1277
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,559
be like a night that they were. I know it's not,

1278
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:21,159
but I'm just saying, or maybe it's a dream sequence.

1279
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:23,920
So I'm just saying, like, maybe it's something I don't know,

1280
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,440
but yeah, I agree, jan is.

1281
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: Gonna be possessing her body here and she's just gonna

1282
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,960
strangle Peter and throw them off the building.

1283
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 4: This us for so long, could you imagine? Yeah, And

1284
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,360
I know some people are gonna be like, oh, well,

1285
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,800
didn't you think they're gonna interact? Yeah, if I did

1286
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,840
pizza bet, yeah, sure, but I don't want to know it.

1287
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,639
I do the same thing like with the from I

1288
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:49,239
didn't want to know it. You know, there's some sports

1289
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,119
that don't bug me. Like that's what when certain things

1290
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:54,440
don't bug me, it's like knowing a characters in a

1291
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,159
movie or maybe a step piece, but specifics of interactions

1292
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,000
or character arcs, that's the stuff I don't like to know.

1293
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:01,760
I like to know the journey. If you're like, oh,

1294
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,400
fuck it if I learned that Geen Gray, Like, let's say,

1295
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,679
if I sat down with fucking Tom holl And he's like,

1296
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,400
here's your bureaus and I say, who say the sync planings?

1297
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,800
He says, Jean Gray, that's not gonna buget ruin it

1298
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,039
for me, you know why? Because I don't know what

1299
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:13,960
the script is. It could be great or it could

1300
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,920
be shit. I don't really know, right, So that's what's

1301
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:18,079
But with this, it's okay, now I know they interact

1302
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:19,920
where I would have liked that. It's like, oh, inspiming,

1303
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,800
gonna see her and maybe it's not a big deal again,

1304
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,280
but for me, it's like I didn't need I don't

1305
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,159
think this trail needed that, you know, so.

1306
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,079
Speaker 1: It definitely didn't. And it's the same thing with a

1307
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:30,639
Far From Home one, like and this one's such a

1308
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:33,039
lesser degree, but I feel like it's still the same

1309
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:35,480
thing that like they're just robbing us from seeing that

1310
00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:37,679
scene for the first time on the big screen, like

1311
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,679
just like the tension of the moment, like especially you know,

1312
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,960
like let's play along and just be like, Okay, yeah,

1313
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,920
it's been five years or four years since since like

1314
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:52,039
they've actually known each other. We're going along with the adventure.

1315
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:55,039
What's gonna happen? Are they gonna find out? And like

1316
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,960
we're going along on that adventure throughout the whole movie,

1317
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,239
and then it leads up to this scene that we

1318
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,559
haven't seen yet. It's like, holy fuck, what's gonna happen?

1319
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:04,159
Like like like is it gonna be revealed? It just

1320
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,480
I'm sure it'll still hit well, I'm sure I'm still

1321
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:09,079
gonna love this movie. I might be in tears in

1322
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:11,440
this scene, who knows, but I'm just at this moment,

1323
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,480
screw you, Sony and your terrible trailers. It's pissed me off.

1324
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:17,119
Speaker 4: And you know what this is. This might be a

1325
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:19,280
hard reading. Maybe you disagree with me, but I'm gonna

1326
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,920
throw a t t Y on this right now. With

1327
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:24,639
his body the way it looks and with her face.

1328
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,440
This is after she's found out he's Spider Man again,

1329
00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:29,840
That's what I'm gonna say right now, there's no way

1330
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,280
for us to know that, but with their body language

1331
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,760
in this scene, because if Spider Man just saves her,

1332
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,679
it's like, oh, thanks, Spider Man, I guess she could

1333
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:39,960
be asked like, hey, where are you? We have all

1334
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,599
these memories, so it could be that. So it could

1335
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:44,480
be what I talked about before, where maybe they they

1336
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:46,960
know of Spider Man, Hey why did you? Like we

1337
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:48,239
have all these memories of you, but we don't know

1338
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,840
who you are, Like what the fuck does that mean?

1339
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,559
So maybe it's that. But with their body language, something

1340
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:54,320
emotionals out in here, So I could even see this

1341
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,679
being the thing. And maybe it's just the classic thing

1342
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,639
where it's like, oh, like you got my memory, but

1343
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,639
like we still can't be together. I don't know that.

1344
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,280
I'm just gonna throw a tt y and say this

1345
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,039
happens after and we'll look back on and be like

1346
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:07,960
see motherfuckers. But you know that's okay, there you go.

1347
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: I agree, and for those Spiders who make it through,

1348
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,360
it amounts to a kind of fun.

1349
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,559
Speaker 4: Back the posters, So what do you say?

1350
00:57:19,239 --> 00:57:20,079
Speaker 1: There's the posters.

1351
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, these are all the covers and everything like that.

1352
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:25,199
Do you think this is people are theorizing that's during what.

1353
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this looks so bad, Like this could

1354
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,679
look so much better.

1355
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:32,239
Speaker 4: It's tough because it looks I'm have two minds. It's

1356
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,639
great because I appreciate directors and its like, let this

1357
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:36,840
is the very first image of Spider Man, right, that cover,

1358
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,119
it's the first cover of Spider Man. So I appreciate

1359
00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:41,559
that they are doing that. It's crazy how no one's

1360
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:44,039
actually really done that yet in the fucking movies. Just

1361
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:47,239
recreate this image? Right? The image looks what people? I

1362
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,519
agree with? It looks like the PS five game. Right,

1363
00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:51,519
it looks like a loading screen for the PS five game.

1364
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:54,880
So I guess I'm of two minds. Vision doesn't look

1365
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,039
the greatest, but I appreciate them going for it. So

1366
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:00,039
on the whole site it's a win. Do you I

1367
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:05,119
think this is happening during the Thunderbolts ending his people said,

1368
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:07,079
with a gray and the smoke. That's not my theory.

1369
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:08,800
I heard other people saying, I think it could be true,

1370
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,840
but also it could just be a big gloomy But

1371
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,039
even the guy, like his composition on the screen just

1372
00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:15,280
does not look like he's there.

1373
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:16,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1374
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: I kind of like that theory, like it, Yeah, if

1375
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,880
he's saving people somewhat of an attempt to like like

1376
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,320
you know, combine the adventures, I guess yeah, because.

1377
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 4: It happened New York, right, So again, where the fuck

1378
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,440
is Spider Man?

1379
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: I think it's like fifty to fifty. I don't know.

1380
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,440
I don't feel strong for or against. But the city

1381
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,440
does look pretty fucking miserable here. But yeah, it's just

1382
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,719
New York on normal day.

1383
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:41,199
Speaker 4: It's something when I was there was fuck man, I'm

1384
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:45,199
a New York fan. Sorry, old cool yep.

1385
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:49,599
Speaker 1: I love this, like like this image of him, like

1386
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:51,880
doing this pose I've always loved. But again, like it

1387
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:53,199
just I.

1388
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: Don't know, something's off.

1389
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like a goon or like it's like

1390
00:58:58,760 --> 00:58:59,519
an actual care.

1391
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: I think he's I think he is. I think he

1392
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,960
is just Boomerang. I think that's who he is. I

1393
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,320
think because I think these are just gonna be a

1394
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,559
montage when he's narrating what he's been up to the

1395
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,159
four years. I think they're just gonna show a bunch

1396
00:59:09,199 --> 00:59:11,400
of him kicking an ass. Yeah, which is fine.

1397
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:11,719
Speaker 2: Cool?

1398
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 4: Do that that's tarantula that he's fighting the tarantula. Yeah,

1399
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,239
that's also a comic book cover right there, that exact image.

1400
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,480
There you go. But again though, it does not look

1401
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:25,960
like him and Tranceller are there together, Like, it does

1402
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,199
not look like his hand is actually stopping his hand.

1403
00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: He's lost his best buddy. This guy is like dead

1404
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,079
on the ground. He's just taking his like. He's not

1405
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:37,519
even aiming a tarantula here. He's even a Peter Parker

1406
00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:38,039
if anything.

1407
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, poor guy.

1408
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,199
Speaker 1: You're correct, though it's a pretty poor image.

1409
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:46,039
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa.

1410
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:46,639
Speaker 1: What happened?

1411
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 4: And people did point out that apparently the Lee trailer.

1412
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:51,559
I had to I didn't look more into it. But

1413
00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:53,079
as be say, as I've seen other people that this

1414
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:55,880
scene or not this scene, I'll point out after anyways,

1415
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,840
continue So.

1416
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, paula trades man, you drink the

1417
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:05,639
blue stuff?

1418
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:09,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if this one, I don't want to

1419
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:11,320
get hyped and believe what people think. But like, I

1420
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,599
think it's more drinking the black stuff. And like I

1421
01:00:16,639 --> 01:00:19,719
wouldn't mind because I guess you could just say he

1422
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,840
got bit and he just eventually kept evolving, right, I

1423
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,760
wouldn't mind if the Simulte attached to him and that's

1424
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,920
what made him have organic webbing. Is it kind of like,

1425
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,559
you know, the Simulte took something from him the spire

1426
01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:32,199
powers a gen but kind of gave something him with

1427
01:00:32,239 --> 01:00:34,880
the organic web shooters, you know. And because I don't

1428
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,880
know why else's eyes would be black here, I guess

1429
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,880
it could also be that person taking over them, right,

1430
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:40,800
and I guarantee that's probably it. Like this could be

1431
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,599
maybe Jean Gray when she goes in their mind, their

1432
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:44,840
eyes turned black. But I've seen some people throw out

1433
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,440
the Simulte thing. Wouldn't hate it, And that could also

1434
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,480
be a good reason of Hey, why is my body changing? Well,

1435
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,000
there's a fucking alien in you, dude, Like, so I

1436
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,559
could buy it. So I'm I'm very I think I am

1437
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:57,400
more like sixty forty against it, but I could see it.

1438
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: I think I'm like against it. Uh, it just seems

1439
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,000
like a big thing to throw into this this project,

1440
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,840
but I don't know. Maybe it could be done tactfully,

1441
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,719
but not.

1442
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 4: If your fights Frank in the finale, man, you know

1443
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:18,000
Frank possessed, Yeah, possessing day versus black Suit Spider Man.

1444
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:21,039
Speaker 1: Yeah nobody, right, Yeah, I feel like that would be

1445
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:25,480
a more fun face off than the like Man Spider

1446
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:29,000
just because I I yes, I love that safe two

1447
01:01:29,079 --> 01:01:32,159
of the character. But yeah, yeah, for sure. Maybe you

1448
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:33,960
get Symbiot Hulk maybe.

1449
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that'd be great.

1450
01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: I love my shots so much man, me too.

1451
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:43,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this scene's gonna bang too. Obviously. That's

1452
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:46,480
the hand. And again the guy that directed his desin,

1453
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:48,880
Daniel Crandon. He directed some cheat and that's some of

1454
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,079
the best actions m suit. Right. I didn't love the

1455
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:53,840
third act of that movie, but I think action wise,

1456
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,960
you're gonna get and even the web SWLing stuff, right

1457
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,880
like some of the CGI. Some of the shots, Kay,

1458
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,280
maybe not the greatest, but I think the visual of

1459
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,519
them and the actual choreography of them think they're gonna be.

1460
01:02:04,239 --> 01:02:05,960
I think it's gonna be top tier on that department.

1461
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:06,480
I really do.

1462
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, Marzi the suit, I'm just I'm just loving

1463
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:19,559
Oh yeah, man, there's nine CGI characters down here, right.

1464
01:02:19,519 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's yeah Terrence Howard's war Machine. But uh,

1465
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,920
people have pointed out apparently in the lead trailer this

1466
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:31,199
took place in a building.

1467
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: I thought I noticed that when I was watching.

1468
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,599
Speaker 4: The shitty version that you sent me. Yeah, so, uh,

1469
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:39,880
there could be some mystery characters. I feel like, if

1470
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,800
it's in the building, then why are there the mystery characters.

1471
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,239
I feel like that. I feel like this is just

1472
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,639
another montage thing of him showing fight people. True, you

1473
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:50,639
could easily just see Gi Charlie Cox and somebody just

1474
01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:53,719
to say like, hey he was fighting. Yeah, like he

1475
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:54,639
was fighting with them and.

1476
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: That was it.

1477
01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:57,239
Speaker 4: But I don't think it's anything big because who could.

1478
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,079
It's not gonna be Spider Man. I don't need to

1479
01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:01,039
be halt because I think they're trying and say that

1480
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:04,079
Hulk turns. I don't think it's Frank because if that's Frank,

1481
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:05,559
why when you just have him there? He's in the

1482
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:08,039
fucking trailer ready, right, so I guess it could be

1483
01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:12,039
flying he's shoving off the building as well, Okay, yes,

1484
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:14,519
of course, yeah, or he could become at one point

1485
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:16,519
he does get the war machine shoot kirkle in the

1486
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:19,480
comics pressure he does. Yeah, it's a great fit punisher

1487
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:23,159
warmhe yeah, you think it is Terrence Howard. No, it's

1488
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:26,239
to Unborthenal. But no, I just think other than maybe

1489
01:03:26,239 --> 01:03:28,760
Sadie sinc there's no one really surprised here, So I

1490
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,320
think could I think it could be like a Charlie

1491
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,760
Cox though easy had a dared double cameo in there,

1492
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,400
because it's like, yeah, we didn't get him in the movie,

1493
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,639
but they've been piling around for the past four years.

1494
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: Great agreed, nice flowers. Oh there, I saw.

1495
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:54,639
Speaker 4: Lash you go back a couple of times. Of course

1496
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:56,719
Lasht weren't about to be done. He's just saying they

1497
01:03:56,719 --> 01:03:58,880
said red. So then when he looks online, he can

1498
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,440
be like, yeah, yeah, I said the're red doors.

1499
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: It's this lighting right here, it is.

1500
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,519
Speaker 4: I told you it was like, yeah, they didn't go

1501
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:08,760
full red. But Dunda looking fucking gorgeous in this whole trailer, man,

1502
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,320
I like, don't get me wrong, if that's your look,

1503
01:04:11,559 --> 01:04:13,800
you can do your look. I hate when they made

1504
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,599
it her fucking like like all frumpy and stuff in

1505
01:04:16,639 --> 01:04:19,320
the first three movies, like when she's like that's.

1506
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: The point though, right, She's supposed to be like the

1507
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:25,960
ugly duck Lan that nobody nobody cares about and the blossoms.

1508
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, you know what I about saying, isn't that right? How?

1509
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:38,559
Speaker 1: Brother? Like what?

1510
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,119
Speaker 4: Mike has a question which we're gonna get to. He

1511
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:44,280
has a question about the trilogy. And actually, let's say, Kirkland, Uh,

1512
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,320
we're gonna take our second ad break his first at break,

1513
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,960
add somewhere in the thirty minute mark, I forgot to

1514
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,440
take it. We take our first at break. Keep the

1515
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,159
trailer up though to your first at break. We'll be

1516
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:54,440
our second ad break while were at back. We're back.

1517
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,840
Mike's question I'll read out fully, but I'm just paraphrasing.

1518
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,320
He was gonna ask you, like now some time, how

1519
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,639
do we feel about the the John Wats trilogy? Right?

1520
01:05:02,519 --> 01:05:04,880
And we're watching again with the girls right now. Ellie

1521
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,320
hasn't seen it, Logan saw, but very younger when has

1522
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:09,320
memories of it. We have Knowing Home, which we're gonna

1523
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,559
watch either this week or next week. The whole MJ shit,

1524
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,840
Like in retrospect, I get in the moment was like

1525
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,360
who's she? It was like the city sing thing, right,

1526
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,800
who's she playing? Who's that, But when you watch the

1527
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,480
movie now, it's really just like, why didn't they just

1528
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:25,119
make her MJ, Like like later on after the fact,

1529
01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:27,800
it just doesn't play the same. It just plays very

1530
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,320
awkward and kind of dumb. So the same thing, we're like, oh, well,

1531
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,480
she's gonna be MJ, but she's not gonna be like,

1532
01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:35,840
she's not gonna be a redhead. We're gonna dress her

1533
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,599
down so people don't think she's like hot, but she's

1534
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:39,800
gonna be his love. And you know, her name's gonna

1535
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,679
be MJ. But it's Michelle Jones, not Mary Jane Watson.

1536
01:05:42,719 --> 01:05:45,440
But her name is still gonna be Michelle Michelle Jones Watson.

1537
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:53,360
And when watching this movie, I'm just interesting. No, I

1538
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,880
have no fucking problem with all the other losers in

1539
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,880
the world that back then would now like why should

1540
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,679
not white? Why should not white? Even the hair I

1541
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:01,880
don't get. I still wish the hair because to me,

1542
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,599
the hair actually is a more characteristic than her fucking

1543
01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:08,199
skin color. I actually don't think if MJ is white, Asian,

1544
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,159
trans whatever, but to me, whatever I think about MJ,

1545
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,559
it's her hair, right, So same thing with Spider Man.

1546
01:06:14,599 --> 01:06:16,280
It'd be like Spiderman. I don't care of color is,

1547
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,239
but like if his suit was yellow and green, I'd

1548
01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:20,440
be like, what the fuck, Like, that's not Spider Man.

1549
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,599
So that's where I've always been, back to that I

1550
01:06:21,639 --> 01:06:23,400
don't care a race or anything like that. And also

1551
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,519
just helps at Zendaa looks like great and red hair

1552
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:27,000
when she's actually dyed her hair red hair. So it's

1553
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,840
always been like, fuck, just do it. Already liked, just

1554
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,840
do it. So I feel like that's what's interesting. And

1555
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,960
I don't know if it's because well, now he's grown

1556
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:37,519
up and now he's Spider Man, but the first rector

1557
01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:39,760
to get a crack of the MCU Spider Man, it's

1558
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,079
like he's more street level. He's got a Spiderman's suit.

1559
01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:46,480
MJ's calling herself MJ. Not even do her fucking friends, right,

1560
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,360
Remember that was the whole twist. Oh well my friends, uh,

1561
01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:50,880
they call me MJ. She's just introducing yourself to MJ's

1562
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,719
random people. She's got the red hair, and I get it.

1563
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,840
I don't want to hear. I know there's MCU diehards.

1564
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,519
I they're gonna push it. Their glasses go. Well, you

1565
01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:00,360
know those movies were like the origin of MJ. Now

1566
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:02,679
this is the real MG. Yeah, it's like every fucking

1567
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:04,679
movie it's like, well, this is really Spider Man now,

1568
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:05,880
and then at the end of the movie or the

1569
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,280
beginning the next one, he's like, Oh, I don't know

1570
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,320
what I'm doing, and it's just like I don't like

1571
01:07:09,639 --> 01:07:11,440
so that stuff is just dumb to me. So I'm

1572
01:07:11,519 --> 01:07:14,119
very happy they're doing this type of stuff. And it's like, yeah,

1573
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,880
fucking Mary Jane's a hot character. Let let Dunda would

1574
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,960
be fucking hot because she's a good looking woman, you know.

1575
01:07:20,199 --> 01:07:22,960
Let Tom be fucking Hall. Like the cautioning in these

1576
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,920
movies that they haven't in before. People point out when

1577
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,639
Zendaya and Tom Hall were on the streets, they look

1578
01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:31,599
more like fucking Peter Parker MJ than in these fucking movies,

1579
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,599
like some of their outfits and stuff like that. Like,

1580
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,639
for me, it's in the caution in these choices. So

1581
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,239
I appreciate everything. I can't remember how we got here.

1582
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,320
You asked me some sort of question.

1583
01:07:40,199 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the another Patreon question about how we feel about.

1584
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:44,719
Speaker 4: The Yeah, but you kind of let it in that.

1585
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,679
But before we get the mic, pit play because you

1586
01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:48,239
see that wall a bit better too that I saw

1587
01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:53,840
far oh there right there, Yeah, that's their apartment. They

1588
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,880
got so much Spider Man stuff there, and yeah again

1589
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,840
like even then the character that Dundaa is showing there.

1590
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,239
I just prefer this so much more over the whole

1591
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,920
like the black Dahlia thing, and like I didn't I

1592
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,719
didn't vibe with that character. And I think we've talked

1593
01:08:07,719 --> 01:08:10,440
about this before that the ms you made Zendea look

1594
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,320
like a worst actress. She's better than what the MCU

1595
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,880
gives are all the time, right, So I hope one

1596
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,760
of these movies they can actually let her let loose

1597
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,039
and have you know, I don't know, I just I

1598
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:21,000
think watching those movies now. But yeah, I will give

1599
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:24,399
the full thing on that. But before I say, with

1600
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,960
this trailer, the good thing is everything I thought years

1601
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,920
ago when we're getting Spider Man and the MSU, everything

1602
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,319
I thought it would be. I don't know if it

1603
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,199
exactly was, and I guess it kind of goes into

1604
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:36,279
my question. I don't think it was exactly that, but

1605
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:38,439
I feel like this is closer to what I had

1606
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,359
in mind. You know, like this feels like wow, like

1607
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,359
we're we're finally getting the MCU sperm, and I was

1608
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,640
hoping we'd get Don't get me wrong, I love this

1609
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,199
Toby one still more as of right now. But I

1610
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:50,960
think Tom is great and they could do great. I

1611
01:08:51,039 --> 01:08:53,960
just think for some reason things were always holding those

1612
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,279
back from being like, truly get great. I don't count

1613
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:59,319
No Way Home because No Way Home is a whole

1614
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:02,479
different beast right with the returning characters and legends. But

1615
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,399
Mike's question was, now that we're entering a new Aero

1616
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,760
spare man, how would you guys overall rate the jarn

1617
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,000
Walt's trilogy, What elements from it you want to keep

1618
01:09:09,079 --> 01:09:11,279
or change moving forward? And how would you say measures

1619
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:13,159
up to Rayney trilogy. So I've ranted for a bit,

1620
01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:15,079
but obviously, as I said, the things of doing MJ

1621
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,960
happy with all those changes make her more MJ.

1622
01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:23,359
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, uh good, good, little tangent there. I

1623
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,199
feel like I'm kinda It's interesting because I'm kind of

1624
01:09:26,199 --> 01:09:29,479
on the opposite side. I really have no issues whatsoever

1625
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,359
with the MG stuff that they did. I felt like

1626
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:34,880
it fit. Oh no shit at the time.

1627
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 4: Go back king on esupposed to She's actually wearing the

1628
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:44,760
black dolly and necklace here. Fun enough oh fuck, you

1629
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,720
bet the bike out? Oh fuck, because it's just like

1630
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,880
the opening far from I don't know if that is all. No,

1631
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,920
the thing is though, remember though it broke slightly and

1632
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,680
far from home, so that's why it might not look

1633
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,760
Yeah yeah, so I'll believe the man in the chair.

1634
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:03,880
To me, it was just like the whole gimmick they

1635
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,199
gave zend day of just like, oh well, I'm gonna

1636
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:07,560
take you to the bridge and I'm gonna be a

1637
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,399
black Dolly because you know black Dahlia. She like loves

1638
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,520
mers and loves weird stuff. And that's not like I

1639
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,479
didn't like that. And again, like we just talked about,

1640
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,560
they can change anything they want, right, they can pick

1641
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,520
up a pencil and go okay. Now, she's kind of

1642
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,319
more like true crime, emo cut type of nut. I

1643
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:23,960
just don't think it fits for the character. And I

1644
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,159
don't think it fit for Zendia. When Nda has like

1645
01:10:26,199 --> 01:10:29,119
a like she's like at times like early Will Smith.

1646
01:10:29,159 --> 01:10:32,039
She's like fucking female Will Smith. She's so charismatic, and

1647
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:36,039
they have her playing this character like brings down her charisma.

1648
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: It's like with the girl, but it's not like her movie, right,

1649
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,119
Like she's a very minor part of that first.

1650
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,359
Speaker 4: Pan looking that first movie, but not second and third.

1651
01:10:45,159 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: And that that was the one that you hated the most,

1652
01:10:47,079 --> 01:10:49,680
where she's she's just like a nothing character. She goes

1653
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:50,399
by Michelle.

1654
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,159
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I didn't like that. But then the second one,

1655
01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:54,039
she's still playing the very like yeah, like the you know,

1656
01:10:54,039 --> 01:10:56,119
black Dollia. I just love weird shit, you know, Like

1657
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,680
I know, it's just like when Patrio, it's like he

1658
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,640
did Joel and and then like, oh remember in Game

1659
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,000
of Thrones when everyone fell in love with them, was

1660
01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:05,399
the viper because he's so charismatic. Yeah, let's never do

1661
01:11:05,399 --> 01:11:07,079
that again with Pedro. Let's just have him played really

1662
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:09,439
dark characters and it's like, what the fuck are we.

1663
01:11:09,399 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: Doing here, guys and them, and have them never actually.

1664
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,279
Speaker 4: Be on s. Yeah yeah, but yeah, so you would.

1665
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:17,039
You were all fond. Damn you want to keep that.

1666
01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:19,399
You want to talking about murders and being like, oh,

1667
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:19,960
I never.

1668
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: Said that whatsoever? Sixteen you said that whatsoever. I'm just

1669
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,239
saying looking back on those projects, I hey, but just

1670
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,880
looking back on that trilogy and just the arc, I

1671
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,439
think of those characters I was really enjoying. I think

1672
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,920
just the whole growth from the first movie to the

1673
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:42,199
second one, and just like the awkward like high school

1674
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:46,279
like courting that like like Peter Parker and MJ are

1675
01:11:46,319 --> 01:11:48,239
kind of doing in that second movie. I don't know,

1676
01:11:48,279 --> 01:11:50,199
I feel like it just it just reminded me of

1677
01:11:50,199 --> 01:11:53,239
of that era of my life, and it just it

1678
01:11:53,319 --> 01:11:55,479
just hit harder now if I had to pick one

1679
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,439
or the other, obviously, I'm going to my you know,

1680
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,079
my my dear, my old school like comic book version

1681
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:02,520
of of the MG because I was just like my

1682
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,720
first exposure to the character.

1683
01:12:04,119 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 4: I can't go there either, though, because she fucking sucks too.

1684
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,800
We've talked about that before. Kristen Duntz's MJ right, like

1685
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,439
or are you just about the comic version.

1686
01:12:12,319 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: M I'm just saying, like the comic book, like the cartoon,

1687
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,760
like literally my first exposure to Spider Man, except it

1688
01:12:21,399 --> 01:12:25,199
you know, you never forget your first. But I also think,

1689
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,880
like you do bring up good points of just like

1690
01:12:29,079 --> 01:12:33,239
the version of the character that they had isn't like

1691
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,119
like it's definitely not squeezing out the maximum potential of

1692
01:12:37,159 --> 01:12:40,800
the character. Zindeia No, I like, honestly, like I don't

1693
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,880
think I had seen Zindia in anything before that movie,

1694
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,239
so like she really wasn't on my radar at that

1695
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,119
point in time. Like I think she was a Disney star,

1696
01:12:48,359 --> 01:12:51,239
like Disney Kids star, but like definitely not my era

1697
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,039
of Disney shows when I was growing up. So yeah,

1698
01:12:56,079 --> 01:12:58,600
like like I just didn't really feel like I watched

1699
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,880
that movie and was like they gave her nothing, Like

1700
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:02,760
I just didn't know.

1701
01:13:03,119 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 4: I don't even mean that that to me. I was

1702
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,800
just talking about the general the character. I think. See,

1703
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,720
my problem is not even the character stuff in there.

1704
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,319
I didn't like it later on. I didn't like the

1705
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:15,319
whole in retrospect now watching it, the secret and the

1706
01:13:15,319 --> 01:13:17,880
screen time is not worth the reveal of my friends

1707
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,359
called MAMJ. Just don't have her say her name the

1708
01:13:20,359 --> 01:13:22,840
whole movie and I'm Mary Jane Watson, like the whole

1709
01:13:23,159 --> 01:13:26,039
the whole Like, oh well she's MJ, but she's r MJ.

1710
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:28,720
It's like what does that matter? Like she's playing Mary

1711
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,159
Jane right, because then you just got a bunch of

1712
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:32,880
other fucking losers there, Like, well she's not because remember

1713
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,520
what happened City Sink got cast all bunch of fucking losers,

1714
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,439
Like I bet she's playing the real Mary Jane. It's like, no,

1715
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,720
like Zenda and this world is the real Mary Jane.

1716
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,239
So that's why I just like, why are they being

1717
01:13:42,319 --> 01:13:44,760
cheeky with well, she's Michelle Jones. It's dumb stuff. I'm

1718
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,319
just saying. Of like when Mike asked me in retrospect

1719
01:13:47,319 --> 01:13:49,640
watching that me and they're like, this doesn't pay off

1720
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,319
like it did, like when we first were like, oh,

1721
01:13:51,319 --> 01:13:52,680
who is it? Who's this girl?

1722
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:53,079
Speaker 2: You know?

1723
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then uh, just to his question, looking

1724
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,159
back on the trilogy, I really love them. I I

1725
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,399
still have a lot of fun with those movies, especially

1726
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,600
like the first one having Michael Keaton like as the villain,

1727
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,000
Like like he he totally stands up, stands up. Oh yeah,

1728
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:13,800
is that's the right way to say that. I don't

1729
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:14,600
know why it sounds so weird.

1730
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 4: I just said, he holds up, holds up.

1731
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:23,399
Speaker 1: He stood up. He stood up in Success Man, but man,

1732
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,159
like like that scene in the car, like at the dance,

1733
01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:29,359
like it's just so much tension there and like you

1734
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,479
got you got Tom Holland a Spider Man like I

1735
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,680
I love that casting so much. Uh, it's it's probably

1736
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,680
the best Spider Man casting that we've had in all

1737
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,600
versions of the character. Obviously they look Toby because because

1738
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,479
we because we like the nostalgia. Andrew is fantastic.

1739
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Andrew. He's the goat.

1740
01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I disagree.

1741
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,279
Speaker 4: I think he outmeeted him in No way Home big time.

1742
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,279
I think when they all three together and you saw

1743
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,520
what Andrew Garfield could do in the MCU with like

1744
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,159
good directors and they get a good world as like

1745
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:03,720
he he I think he's more natural equips and better

1746
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,439
at the romance like I I to me, he's he's

1747
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,279
a going geek winner that year he's Tom Hollman. I

1748
01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:10,520
don't know if he won the Gold and Get that year.

1749
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,319
I think he did, actually, but like I actually can't remember.

1750
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:15,840
But I think Andrew, if you were not to put

1751
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,880
him in those amazing movies and give him something else juicy,

1752
01:15:19,039 --> 01:15:21,680
he would he'd be the king. You know.

1753
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:27,279
Speaker 1: It's a close debate. I think though Tom Holland is

1754
01:15:27,359 --> 01:15:30,039
just so much better at the Peter Parker than Andrew

1755
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:32,840
Garfield is. I feel like Andrew Garfield is too suave

1756
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,560
and badass.

1757
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 4: Well, no, I think it's too cool. I don't, I don't.

1758
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,720
I don't know that Andrew Garfield's a badass. But like

1759
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,159
I look at it fair enough, I wan too many adjectives. Yeah,

1760
01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:43,560
you know what I look at as a badass. This

1761
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:51,760
fucking guy right here, you know that? Yeah, yeah, it's

1762
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,560
those cars. Motherfucker's move. I can't say that's a scenes.

1763
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: The scenes for like the Rami movies. You could be like, man,

1764
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,279
this Peter Parker is the corniest of them all. But

1765
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,920
like Toby maguire, he is a fucking he's a mob

1766
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:07,239
shark or something like he's he's a badass guy.

1767
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,159
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, if I'm in a dark alley, I mean,

1768
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:12,880
that's how that goes, if I'm if I'm in a

1769
01:16:13,039 --> 01:16:15,760
dark alley. If I'm a dark alley and I gotta

1770
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,680
fight one three of them, I'm picking Toby McGuire at last,

1771
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:28,560
every single time. But Jesus, we got you let him go.

1772
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,079
Speaker 1: You can't say you can't block him in guys.

1773
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 3: You guys are gone.

1774
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:37,039
Speaker 2: The car.

1775
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:45,399
Speaker 4: He starts, Calm, I got away. I can't see the

1776
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:51,520
way we're we're blocking the pun for fuck that fall

1777
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,960
for got We moved for you, dude to We had

1778
01:16:56,079 --> 01:16:58,359
every fucking right, but like, look, how but look at

1779
01:16:58,359 --> 01:17:04,159
that look how calm he was, and then when it

1780
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:07,800
was I can't see the cars guys they.

1781
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:15,159
Speaker 1: Got and there's like a thousand more photos.

1782
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 4: To anyone that says motherfucker, Like motherfucker. Yeah, I'm not

1783
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,239
messing with that guy. It's always definitely the most badass

1784
01:17:21,279 --> 01:17:22,880
of them. But ye know, Tom's so great. I just

1785
01:17:23,119 --> 01:17:25,079
and don't be wrong. I thought that until I saw

1786
01:17:25,159 --> 01:17:26,840
no way home, and once I saw, I gotta get

1787
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:32,279
this image. Ja's the lighted mind, just told me yelling.

1788
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:34,800
You can see his mouth fully open and stuff can

1789
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:35,479
even drive.

1790
01:17:37,079 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: His eyes were wide open. He just got flashbang.

1791
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 4: But I swear one of the one of the Papa rossis

1792
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,640
guys like we got you blocked in and like listening, listener,

1793
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:51,079
I don't want to be. I want to be we

1794
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:56,399
got you blop him. They're literally taunting him, they got

1795
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,039
you block, we got you blocked, asshole, no wonder and

1796
01:17:59,079 --> 01:17:59,800
he had every right.

1797
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 2: I can't see.

1798
01:18:09,079 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 4: Why don't we have that as a drop either. We

1799
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,560
got to We've done as an inside joke for years,

1800
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,479
you know, so But anyways, Tom aout Tom. You love

1801
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,239
Tom the Trilogy?

1802
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Tom the Trilogy. Yeah, I don't know.

1803
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:27,479
I also just like the more what's the word I'm

1804
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,600
looking for, Like, I feel like these movies reminds me

1805
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,680
the most of like my like personal like grade school

1806
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,720
experience where it's like Toby's you know, I was like

1807
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,800
a kid watching that, especially at that age, seeing these

1808
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,720
characters like Flash Thompson in that movie. Is the actor's

1809
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,720
name Joe, Yeah, like like he's supposed to be what's

1810
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,039
seventeen years old? Eighteen years old like in that movie,

1811
01:18:50,119 --> 01:18:52,359
like this guy looks thirty five, Whereas I watched like

1812
01:18:52,399 --> 01:18:54,159
the Tom Hall Ones, I'm like, yeah, these guys kind

1813
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:56,119
of like this just reminds me more of my my

1814
01:18:56,199 --> 01:19:00,600
high school experience thinks without the superheroes of course. So

1815
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,000
I don't know, there's just a certain attachment to it,

1816
01:19:03,079 --> 01:19:08,039
I think, And like that's just like a great era

1817
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:10,359
of the MCU as well, right like this is before

1818
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,520
like like like we start this or yeah, we start

1819
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,680
this coming off of the great like introduction of the

1820
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,720
character with Civil War, which everyone's so hyped such like

1821
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,720
a little like taste of the characters, and there's such

1822
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,920
a big build up going into So I think there's

1823
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,359
just a lot of factors that really made it that

1824
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,039
much more special in my heart and when I rewatched them,

1825
01:19:29,079 --> 01:19:32,239
like I kind of remember those memories, like all the

1826
01:19:32,319 --> 01:19:34,000
hype leading up to Far From Home, except for when

1827
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,359
you and I broke down that trailer and I was

1828
01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:38,880
just venting and pissed off, but like even just like

1829
01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:42,399
didn't love the mysterio outcome of course in hindsight, but like,

1830
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,199
how fucking hype was that when it's like Jake Chillenhall

1831
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:47,680
is mysterio and a live action Spider Man movie, like

1832
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,000
the first time we see him with the fish bowl,

1833
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:53,239
like it looks so good. So yeah, there's a lot

1834
01:19:53,279 --> 01:19:55,039
of reasons why it's still and then of course no

1835
01:19:55,079 --> 01:19:56,800
way home. It is just but I agree with you,

1836
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,920
I think that's just a unicorn like that, that's that's

1837
01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:04,920
stands in its own kind of yeah, like existence, like you.

1838
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,359
Speaker 4: Need, of course the other two Spearmen to get you there,

1839
01:20:07,399 --> 01:20:09,680
but it's it's so just by itself in a way

1840
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,840
where it's like it's tough, like I can't even count

1841
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,399
as like a buffer towards the front like the trilogy.

1842
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,359
It's it's a it's an odd spot, right because it's

1843
01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:19,279
kind of the culmination of two other Spider man's right,

1844
01:20:19,359 --> 01:20:22,439
like Toby's and Andrews. So yeah, like watching them the

1845
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,279
only home I know will hold up. I love that movie.

1846
01:20:24,279 --> 01:20:26,560
I think they do a great job there. You know,

1847
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,319
obviously about some visuals, but overall character stuff, story stuff,

1848
01:20:29,319 --> 01:20:30,920
I hold up. And Mike, I agree with you when

1849
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,680
you said to be Fairs and Day was still just

1850
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,840
out of Disney Channel when Homecoming that's comeing out, no

1851
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,439
one known to users strengths. That's why I did kurtail

1852
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,199
and say in my pro Homecoming was just the MJ reveal,

1853
01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:43,079
not Zendea. That's fine, it's more Agaan as they continue

1854
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:45,239
on with that character. I don't think they used the

1855
01:20:45,239 --> 01:20:46,920
best and I didn't like the gimmick of again like

1856
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,840
weird MJ. That was kind of Gothy right, It's just

1857
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,319
like a weird trilogy. Like I don't know how like

1858
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,119
as far as our rate, I wouldn't give a number,

1859
01:20:55,119 --> 01:20:57,600
but I would give it like a like a B

1860
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,399
to be minus. I think because we watched Far from

1861
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,680
Home again last week and I think that was maybe

1862
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,640
the third time I've seen it, and it's knowing a

1863
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,479
bad movie, but me and him the end of that one,

1864
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,199
because once the kids are gone. Then we actually like

1865
01:21:10,279 --> 01:21:12,119
talk like about what we think about movies because we

1866
01:21:12,119 --> 01:21:13,399
don't want to like, oh that was shit, right, And

1867
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,359
then you know, the non trilier time, there's a couple

1868
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:16,840
of times when like the kids want to watch Harold

1869
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,279
in the Purple cram r Like, we're not watching that.

1870
01:21:18,319 --> 01:21:20,199
You watch the Grandma. There's a couple times we do

1871
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:21,880
got to break at the Gamack like no, no, no, we

1872
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,720
don't think we'd like this. You you guys watched somewhere else,

1873
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,680
but with this, we just both looked at it. She's like,

1874
01:21:27,239 --> 01:21:29,640
this is like a very like kind of just fine movie, right,

1875
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,479
like far from like I actually took it down to score.

1876
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,199
I think I had it like a seven and I

1877
01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:35,600
took it down to a six because it was just fine.

1878
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,600
And again, and I'll give all the credit in the

1879
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,920
world to Brent. He's always pointing this out, but he's like,

1880
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,079
like when I first started talking to Brent and listen

1881
01:21:43,119 --> 01:21:44,920
to his stuff, He's like, you can't watch the Captain

1882
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,079
America trilogy is a trilogy, right because look at Captain America,

1883
01:21:48,119 --> 01:21:50,760
Captain America, what happens, But then Winter Soldiers after Avengers,

1884
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,920
so you're missing that and then Civil War. If you

1885
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,760
just watched Captain America movies, that's a fucking mess, right,

1886
01:21:56,079 --> 01:21:58,239
So we want to because the girls wanted to get

1887
01:21:58,279 --> 01:21:59,880
watched No Way Home. But then they said, oh, that's

1888
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,159
watch them all because Ellie, Gwen and Logan my three oldest.

1889
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:04,520
I think they're all gonna be going to theaters to

1890
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,399
see this one, so let's get them caught up and everything.

1891
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,159
So watching the Hall movies though without the Avengers Far

1892
01:22:10,199 --> 01:22:12,199
from Home, it's just super fucking weird as well too.

1893
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,479
That's the other thing, like if you're not watching it,

1894
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,920
like I feel like, like the MJ thing in the moment,

1895
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,079
it was great to have this directfall of of what

1896
01:22:19,159 --> 01:22:21,880
was the blip like and what was losing Tony Stark like,

1897
01:22:22,079 --> 01:22:24,600
But in the Spider Man world it does it just

1898
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,720
feels like you're kind of wasting time a bit because

1899
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,000
it's like and it also sucks too because when it's like,

1900
01:22:29,039 --> 01:22:30,720
what was the blip, like, we thought, oh, we're gonna

1901
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,159
get tons of that, right, they never really capitalized on

1902
01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:35,039
that five years of the blip, So that's the problem

1903
01:22:35,079 --> 01:22:39,399
where I think it has aged. I think it's age

1904
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,239
definitely worse than maguire's I know SPIERMN three exists, but

1905
01:22:42,279 --> 01:22:44,560
I think the McGuire once have gotten better and these

1906
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,760
have aged. We're no way home again. It's just it's

1907
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,000
in its bottle. So for me, it's like a bb mindset.

1908
01:22:49,079 --> 01:22:51,399
Homecoming is like good, but I don't think it ever

1909
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,479
was even when we reviewed it the first time. I

1910
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,760
don't consider that a great MCU movie. I think that's

1911
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,560
very much in like the the B tier. So I

1912
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,199
don't think they ever hit the head on the nail

1913
01:23:01,239 --> 01:23:04,119
with the single solo Spidering one, and I think with

1914
01:23:04,199 --> 01:23:06,680
this one they could. I'm expecting at least an eight

1915
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,000
out of ten, which other than Noway Home, that'd be

1916
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,279
the highest Spider Man like since the Toby One's for

1917
01:23:11,359 --> 01:23:14,960
me so crazy?

1918
01:23:15,079 --> 01:23:18,520
Speaker 1: What was I gonna say there? Well, uh, just comparing

1919
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:24,000
like the how the Raimies age compared to compared to

1920
01:23:24,039 --> 01:23:27,920
the The Watts trilogy, I guess it's it's tough, right

1921
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,039
because you're kind of cursed by it being in the MCU.

1922
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:36,199
Like like movies or a trilogy, there's no in between movies.

1923
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:37,640
There's no filler that you have to watch. There's no

1924
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,199
Disney Plus shows that you got to fill up to

1925
01:23:40,399 --> 01:23:44,239
it to figure out what villain is introduced or whatnot,

1926
01:23:44,279 --> 01:23:46,520
like like, that's just kind of the curse of the

1927
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,640
MCU overall. If you want to just watch the trilogy

1928
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,920
of Captain America or something like that, it is like.

1929
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 4: A big TV show a lot of times, right, And

1930
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,039
that's a good thing or bad thing. But like a

1931
01:23:55,039 --> 01:23:57,199
lot of times TV shows, you can't just watch one

1932
01:23:57,199 --> 01:23:59,119
episode in the middle of a season. You got to

1933
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,159
watch the whole thing, right, And that's what these movies are,

1934
01:24:02,279 --> 01:24:03,279
which is it's weird.

1935
01:24:03,399 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 1: So yep, no, for sure.

1936
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then Mike, you also asked was the tale

1937
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,520
and it was with Raymie. You asked, uh, well, how

1938
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,640
was the measure up to Raymie? No, nowhere near to me? Like,

1939
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,439
I like the themes better there, like the story, the visuals,

1940
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,199
the score as well, everything like that. I'm gonna get

1941
01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:23,800
no way home stuff. And I know someone's gonna be like, well,

1942
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,279
those are the ones you grew up with, travs, so

1943
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:27,600
of course you like those. Okay, Sure, I think that's

1944
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,279
a bad Shrawman argument because I grew up with the

1945
01:24:29,359 --> 01:24:31,239
Keyen movies and I don't put those the top, right,

1946
01:24:31,319 --> 01:24:34,800
Like I grew up with Returns, Baton Robbin eighty nine.

1947
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,880
I watched those all as I was a kid, and

1948
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,199
the Nolan trilogy is my Batman, right like that thing.

1949
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:41,920
And even then, I right now have a hard time

1950
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,800
to sign between what I like more with Dark Knight

1951
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,119
and The Batman. So I have multiple times to show you.

1952
01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:49,680
Oh no, there's a new version that's made current day,

1953
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,720
and I think that is better. I think the ramy

1954
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,760
stuff just worked a lot better. But like Kirkin said,

1955
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,399
had different things that had to do right where this

1956
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,800
it is tough when you're not watching. I bet Far

1957
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,079
From Home will hit a lot better if I ever

1958
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:04,680
do a full MCU rewatch again, right, but watching it

1959
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,479
just by itself, just plucked out, it doesn't work, So

1960
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,760
I think, uh, and but again, NOE Home is a

1961
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,600
that's a gift. Knowing Home to me is the second

1962
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,359
best MCU movie. That's like a top tenor for enjoyment.

1963
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:17,079
And that's not just because nostalgia. They nailed it on

1964
01:25:17,159 --> 01:25:19,439
the arc. They took big risks with the even though

1965
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,800
spell thing was done. They did that, they killed Aunt May,

1966
01:25:22,079 --> 01:25:23,760
they did a few other things in there that I

1967
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,880
thought were really good and ballsy and just a bit

1968
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,960
more darker. Defoe was fucking fire on all cylinders in

1969
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,920
that movie. Like that's not just a nostalgia movie. Those

1970
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,600
do exist, but I don't think that's it. But again

1971
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,720
that's just like that can't uplif the whole trilogy. But

1972
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,680
again it's not the worst because Amazing Spider Man is fuck.

1973
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,000
I rewatched, we watched those. I took those down by

1974
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,199
a score too. I just we reviewed those within the

1975
01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:49,640
podcast era me kylein Dylan, and I think I gave

1976
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,960
like Amazing Spider Man like a seven and the second

1977
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,319
one like a six or something. I was like, and

1978
01:25:53,359 --> 01:25:55,760
I looked at my letter box, I'm like, these are high,

1979
01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:00,600
like Andrew Emma did so much heavy lifting it. And

1980
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,119
I don't know if I can ever watch those movies

1981
01:26:02,119 --> 01:26:04,479
really ever again. But it's tough because those two are

1982
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,079
so gray in them together, right, so that's why you

1983
01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:06,600
watch it.

1984
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,119
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah it has it has some good juice

1985
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:12,600
in there, but those are bad movies, bad bad movies.

1986
01:26:13,119 --> 01:26:17,319
Uh yeah. I mean like for me, I wouldn't put

1987
01:26:17,359 --> 01:26:20,039
any of the Tom holl And Spider Man movies below

1988
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:22,840
and nine like like I really really enjoy all of them.

1989
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 4: Said you won't put any below and nine.

1990
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't put any of them below nine Homecoming

1991
01:26:27,279 --> 01:26:28,279
or Far from Home?

1992
01:26:28,319 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 4: I I when have you seen Far from Home last?

1993
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:30,960
My friend?

1994
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,399
Speaker 1: Over the holidays? Like Christmas time?

1995
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 4: This year? You watch Far from Home when they go

1996
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,199
to fucking wherever in the jone.

1997
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: Hall's there, London man.

1998
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a nine.

1999
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,560
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that movie absolutely. What do

2000
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:47,840
you do? You didn't kick me out of the room.

2001
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:52,760
It's just just you and I heard.

2002
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 4: Antonio man, just I can't kick you.

2003
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: All subjective. It's all subjective, right, Fuck? I forgot what

2004
01:26:57,039 --> 01:26:57,840
you had that one.

2005
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 4: I was deleted it, but it kims in hand whatever. Yeah, probably,

2006
01:27:03,159 --> 01:27:06,239
So let's make this simple. No, you got to keep

2007
01:27:06,279 --> 01:27:08,000
it Christmas. It's good. It's good.

2008
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 3: You know, got something to say.

2009
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 4: We're gonna recreate that scene of GV film. That's what

2010
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,560
we do. We're not gonna recreate great scenes for movies.

2011
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,600
We're gonna recreate bad ones and then make them good,

2012
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,479
you know. Yeah, Mike's complete, right. The same with Guardian's

2013
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,800
Trilogy and Finny Warren anging between two and three. Yeah,

2014
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,479
you watch two and then three ends up with Gomora

2015
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,319
is dead. It's all like, yeah, but that's just the

2016
01:27:37,319 --> 01:27:41,840
way it is. It just they just stand out, can you.

2017
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well just quantumnia. I guess m N one and

2018
01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:49,840
two are pretty like there's just stuff going on around

2019
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,319
those movies, like like m N two it's not really safe.

2020
01:27:53,359 --> 01:27:55,800
I guess that that has consequences.

2021
01:27:56,199 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, the end credits, if you just stop at the

2022
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,960
end credits. But well, write, I guess his daughter's ages

2023
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,880
all the way the fuck up? I forgot about that, right,

2024
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,239
His daughter go goes from eight year old to like

2025
01:28:05,279 --> 01:28:08,039
an eighteen year old in between the second movie, know

2026
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:11,800
in the third one, right because the blip happens, right, Yeah,

2027
01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:16,720
so yeah, big change is so big your GV big

2028
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:18,479
here you go.

2029
01:28:19,119 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what was I gonna say? I still prefer

2030
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,520
the raimi. I think I don't think I answered that

2031
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:24,000
that question.

2032
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:27,239
Speaker 4: But absolutely, But how does that work? Is if those

2033
01:28:27,239 --> 01:28:29,880
are all nines, you're saying all the hollo ones are nine.

2034
01:28:30,039 --> 01:28:31,640
Surely Spierman three is not a nine?

2035
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: Right?

2036
01:28:33,399 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: Man power nostalgia though, like it's it's fair, that's my

2037
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,039
spider Man. And you make a good argument of like

2038
01:28:39,119 --> 01:28:42,000
it's not just based around nostalgia. Because like Nolan's you know,

2039
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:45,760
a good example of of of a Batman that can

2040
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,439
supersede the nostalgia the factor of the ones that we

2041
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,680
grew up on. But there's just so much extra to

2042
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,920
those movies beyond it just being a film or a

2043
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,000
collingbook movie. Like I feel like there's just a culture

2044
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:00,960
around those movies too, like the me like it's just

2045
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,239
still quotable. Even people that aren't in, like they don't

2046
01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:06,479
follow the podcast or they don't listen to the comic

2047
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,720
book podcasts or anything like that, Like they still just

2048
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,960
understand the memes of that and.

2049
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,279
Speaker 4: They know that sound cute like that didn't you know?

2050
01:29:15,039 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent and just Toby like like

2051
01:29:18,119 --> 01:29:20,439
like I don't know, I think it's just a generation

2052
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,760
type thing and those movies really really did that for myself.

2053
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,039
Speaker 4: So yeah, And I also think, like I know, some

2054
01:29:27,079 --> 01:29:29,840
people might agree disagree because they put up Superman like

2055
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,239
the Chris red one, which kem Fige, I don't know,

2056
01:29:32,279 --> 01:29:33,640
I it's sure, but he says before every time they

2057
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,479
make a movie, they watched that movie. Some people might

2058
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:39,920
put a Batman's begin but I still put that Maguire's

2059
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,239
first movie that is the greatest superhero origin film in

2060
01:29:43,279 --> 01:29:45,399
my time or my opinion. That's like I think they

2061
01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:48,800
people compare it to or I'd say that people for

2062
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,319
origin films that usually comes up as like Chris Reeves

2063
01:29:51,319 --> 01:29:53,680
Superman or Batman begins, or like the hail that's like

2064
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,399
these are the two or one of them as well

2065
01:29:55,399 --> 01:29:57,119
in that. But for me, it's Toby Spierman. I think

2066
01:29:57,119 --> 01:29:59,880
that's the perfect amount because Batman begins also like takes

2067
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:01,760
a to get to Batman. And you might not scratch

2068
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,479
that in because I remember when I saw in school,

2069
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,079
I was all jazz and my teacher saw it, who

2070
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:08,199
likes Batman reads Batman. He's like, yeah, the movie was

2071
01:30:08,199 --> 01:30:09,880
better when he wasn't Batman. I was like, oh, that's

2072
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,199
a weird take, but that's how he felt, right, So,

2073
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,760
and Christoph Reid's like, we won't check out the feeds.

2074
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,399
We on Patreon, we reviewed those. That's just a long movie.

2075
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,479
And I just I think the Toe Maguire is like

2076
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,199
a perfect superhero origin movie that anybody that's doing it

2077
01:30:23,239 --> 01:30:25,560
should watch that and like this is how you do it. Yeah,

2078
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,920
of course sure they skip all the high school years.

2079
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,560
Of course you can't do everything, but to me in

2080
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,760
that time and then what you should base upon and

2081
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,039
improve upon, that's the movie right there, you know.

2082
01:30:35,239 --> 01:30:38,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I completely agree. I think it's a

2083
01:30:38,199 --> 01:30:41,479
good just mixture of it all and just paced well

2084
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,439
where Christopher Reeve is that's an epic.

2085
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 4: That is an epic. Yeah, but again that's what that's

2086
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,279
also why someone might say that, right, well, it is

2087
01:30:49,279 --> 01:30:51,720
an epic, like that's why it is the movie, right

2088
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,760
So yeah, alright, so we get some more questions. We're

2089
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,960
gonna be cutting the Pixar slight and what we've been

2090
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,600
watching because we spend an hour and a half on

2091
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,279
this trailer and thing to.

2092
01:31:00,279 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Say on what people have been watching. And it's not

2093
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:02,840
even what I've been watching.

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01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,399
Speaker 4: But that's fine, and I'll take that out on this

2095
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,119
one because I don't know if I'm gonna work tomorrow,

2096
01:31:07,239 --> 01:31:10,880
So so, so what do you shut out? What have

2097
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:11,239
you been watching?

2098
01:31:11,239 --> 01:31:14,079
Speaker 1: Before you it's not even what I've been watching, but

2099
01:31:14,279 --> 01:31:16,039
one of Shade and I's favorite shows of all time

2100
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:19,520
starvers The Forces of Evil, which I feel like, I

2101
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,880
feel like, actually maybe not. You have such a wide

2102
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,119
spread of children's ages, I feel like it's maybe not

2103
01:31:25,159 --> 01:31:28,880
appropriate for the younger ones. But it's a kids show. Nonetheless,

2104
01:31:29,119 --> 01:31:32,079
it's like, uh, I don't know how to gauge what's

2105
01:31:32,119 --> 01:31:34,359
appropriate for children or whatnot. I mean, your kids watch

2106
01:31:34,399 --> 01:31:35,479
Lord of the Rings, so it's fine.

2107
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they watch a lot of the Rings. They're okay.

2108
01:31:37,159 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 1: Anyways, we named our dog after a character in the show,

2109
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:43,560
Marco Diaz. I'd see what you're doing in the video clips.

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01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:54,760
There you slide, dog, I got eyes everywhere? Are you

2111
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,319
to me with your fucking video clips? Anyways, Absolutely love show,

2112
01:31:58,359 --> 01:32:00,640
see it so many times I have to just pull

2113
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:04,840
up the cast listen here. It's fucking loaded. And the

2114
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,520
single greatest villain in the entire show, his name is Toffee,

2115
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,439
voiced by the great Michael C.

2116
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 2: Hall.

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01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:13,159
Speaker 1: Blew my mind, really blew my mind. And he is

2118
01:32:13,239 --> 01:32:15,359
such like a like a creepy demeanor to the way

2119
01:32:15,359 --> 01:32:17,560
he speaks, like he like he's just calm, but like

2120
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,279
very intimidating. And when I saw yeah, yeah, young Dexter

2121
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,720
as the voice, it blew my mind. Absolutely just just

2122
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,439
peaud the show more than it already was for me.

2123
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,439
So oh you're right here, uh.

2124
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 4: Michael, oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

2125
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: There you go.

2126
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 1: But that was my one thing. I just discovered it today.

2127
01:32:32,159 --> 01:32:33,960
I wanted to share it because you know, we're Dexter,

2128
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,479
we're Michael Seahall fans here.

2129
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 4: He's on my list of like I feel like, all.

2130
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,079
Speaker 1: Come back in here with me or am I just

2131
01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:41,039
talking to No?

2132
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 4: This is what you're gonna do. No, there's some of

2133
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,600
those acts. Those directors have peel that they only use

2134
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,359
for their movies, and you won't see him much like

2135
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,359
Michael see Hall is an actor I would use in

2136
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:49,960
so much.

2137
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,159
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:32:50,199 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 4: I love Michael Shall. Oh yeah, even despite like Resurrection

2139
01:32:54,039 --> 01:32:58,000
the season one, Like love michaels All. He's a great talent.

2140
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 1: And like you could be a different role in every

2141
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,760
single project, but you just use him in everything because

2142
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:03,479
he's just amazing.

2143
01:33:04,279 --> 01:33:06,239
Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, so we got some other than one. We

2144
01:33:06,279 --> 01:33:08,359
got some questions that are adjacent to this, and then

2145
01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:09,840
one that's just kind of randomly in there. But we

2146
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,840
love you, Maddie, so we'll do it now. And yeah,

2147
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,159
if you join Patreon on the dollar tier up, you

2148
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:17,319
can set any questions for Patreon. Actually I think it's

2149
01:33:17,319 --> 01:33:18,680
on the free tier now because we had other stuff

2150
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,000
on the dollar tier. So yeah, if you just joined

2151
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,399
Patreon even in the free tier, you get updates and this,

2152
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,520
as I said earlier, that is the best way to listen.

2153
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,399
You've gone multiple ads already in this episode. You get

2154
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,800
get a single ad in this episode of this and

2155
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,399
that you could go listen to all our retrospectives. We

2156
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,560
are next week, we're dropping The Punisher two thousand and

2157
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,399
four retro. We got originals episode coming up that we

2158
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,079
just record, which was really good, talking about some of

2159
01:33:39,079 --> 01:33:42,479
our filming, talking about Taylor's film history or family history,

2160
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,560
talking about getting old and some of the just dumb

2161
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,279
injuries we've had lately, just by the age of thirty.

2162
01:33:48,319 --> 01:33:50,399
So that's a really good time. And then we got

2163
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,960
the Resident Evil retrospectives hot and fired and going. And

2164
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:57,800
then there is what do we record for Oh my god,

2165
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,359
I can't remember what we record for the producer or

2166
01:34:00,359 --> 01:34:02,319
did we not do that yet? I can't remember what

2167
01:34:02,359 --> 01:34:04,960
we have or coming up? Oh no, we already did that.

2168
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,600
It was bread and Butter. We did that earlier. So

2169
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:07,439
we got some tonight.

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Speaker 1: No, I said, we got something coming up to my

2171
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:10,359
great disdain.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I thought. I was like, I was like, what

2173
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,399
cast is after this? Fuck? Oh yeah, you know, Well,

2174
01:34:18,119 --> 01:34:21,159
We're we're happy become a patron producer. Pick your film, John,

2175
01:34:21,159 --> 01:34:24,239
I'm happy you picked ourk Crystal Kirkland, he's he's scared

2176
01:34:24,359 --> 01:34:26,479
bo but uh thank you. Our picture of producers Aaron

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01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,359
Braden and April Darkness, Jack Grant, Superad, Mike Gollage sixty nine,

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Ak Normany his vetus had dog, Yeah, Lenny Kravitz, Cocktail, Clay,

2179
01:34:33,319 --> 01:34:36,680
John o h and Sam Green and John m This

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01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,760
is getting along, So we very much appreciate all you support.

2181
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,680
We thank you. Lots of good stuff in the feed

2182
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,479
project hel Mary review the Spoils reviewers drop. On Friday,

2183
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,319
Dylan Kirkland did side quest. I saw'd be el rincongrat sir.

2184
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: Hell yeah.

2185
01:34:48,039 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 4: It almost made me boot it up, and I was like,

2186
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,600
I don't have time for this because I've never beat it.

2187
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:53,840
Beat it. I think I'm like seventy percent. But that's

2188
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,840
a game that like, and you know, I just put down.

2189
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: I thought you did it the whole time until Dylan

2190
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:59,560
told me that I don't like this whole time. Trav's

2191
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:00,359
just been sure for me.

2192
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, well because you never finished shouldn't finished

2193
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,319
Death Stranding, So which is It's fair you know, but

2194
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,680
that's one where I, like I said, I put down

2195
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,399
and came back into it. I'm like, I'm not ready

2196
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:11,760
for this right now, because you got to.

2197
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,039
Speaker 1: Be really, it's a hard one to come back two months.

2198
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 2: Later, it is.

2199
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Speaker 4: And that kind of didn't Markers.

2200
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:18,159
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't even know where the fuck I

2201
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:18,479
have to do.

2202
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like because and I remember I was going hard

2203
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,439
and playing all the time, and then just life happened.

2204
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,119
I think it was maybe around the time when the

2205
01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:25,880
kids was born, and like I think it was think

2206
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,600
it was Ellie when I was still playing it and

2207
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,319
then I just put it down. Then when I came back,

2208
01:35:29,359 --> 01:35:31,079
it almost like I felt like it was weird, Like

2209
01:35:31,159 --> 01:35:33,159
I was, like I said, I'm thinking of seventy percent

2210
01:35:33,159 --> 01:35:35,479
of the way, I was being bosses, doing stuff like

2211
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,720
not doing stuff that tras traps in the past, like

2212
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,000
wow trash, like you're actually killing these dark soul boss

2213
01:35:40,119 --> 01:35:42,359
is good for you, and then playing it after months

2214
01:35:42,399 --> 01:35:44,279
of not touching I felt like that, I like, I

2215
01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:46,119
don't know to fucking do, Like almost felt like I

2216
01:35:46,119 --> 01:35:48,079
should start over, but I don't want to do that

2217
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:51,960
because that's a lot of hard. Yeah, So we'll see

2218
01:35:52,039 --> 01:35:54,560
I'm where should I do on this? I'm I have

2219
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,119
some of those Taylor, I'm very conflicted. The Crimson Desert

2220
01:35:57,119 --> 01:35:57,920
reviews came out.

2221
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,119
Speaker 1: Today and I said, still a seventy seven.

2222
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 4: Then it's take a look here, because I said seventy

2223
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,880
eight was like my barometer. It's seventy eight right now.

2224
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,920
But it's tough because it's like it's very The reviews

2225
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,119
I've seen are very polarizing as far as it feels

2226
01:36:12,119 --> 01:36:13,880
like the pill. I love it, love it, and other

2227
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,840
people are like, no one's saying it's a bad game,

2228
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,279
but very much like it does a bunch of stuff,

2229
01:36:18,279 --> 01:36:19,920
but none of it that well. It's like, oh you've

2230
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,199
seen that. It's it's just like it's nothing new to

2231
01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:23,800
the wheel. It's just all stuff in the wheel. So

2232
01:36:24,279 --> 01:36:26,359
it's just tough because again, like games costs hundred dollars,

2233
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,880
this isn't a short game. It's one of those like

2234
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,800
Breath of the Wild Elder scrolls, like go explore everything,

2235
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:33,960
and it's like, yeah, I'm just so torn on Yeah,

2236
01:36:34,039 --> 01:36:35,319
I just so torn if I do this. So that's

2237
01:36:35,319 --> 01:36:36,640
where I's like, do I just not do that? And

2238
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,079
I do actually make a play for elden Ring or

2239
01:36:39,119 --> 01:36:41,960
I do some of the backlog because in May, Lego

2240
01:36:42,079 --> 01:36:44,560
and Bonds coming out, so that's already around the corner too, right,

2241
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,199
So it's like I don't know. I I'm so I

2242
01:36:47,239 --> 01:36:49,159
got till to more to the side, but I just

2243
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,239
I haven't decided on what I want to do with

2244
01:36:51,279 --> 01:36:52,640
this because it's just because what if I'm in that

2245
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,359
camp where I just dropped one hundred dollars, I'm like,

2246
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:59,159
this game's like all right, you know, so yeah, and

2247
01:36:59,199 --> 01:37:02,359
then it's not getting It's like it's out tomorrow tomorrow, yeah,

2248
01:37:02,359 --> 01:37:05,560
at nine or in the day like early, No, it's nine,

2249
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,319
you know. And that's the thing that I'm kind of

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01:37:07,359 --> 01:37:12,119
great tailored, like it's seventy seven, seventy eight, and it's like,

2251
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,760
is that game just not gonna drop on sale like

2252
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,560
six months from now? You know? Like yeah, I don't know.

2253
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think you could wait unless you're I'm

2254
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,880
also just on my myself trying to be a lot

2255
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,119
more strict on like when I'm percha like still have

2256
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:27,960
been gone Ghost of Yotai right, Like I felt like

2257
01:37:28,319 --> 01:37:32,079
me too. I'm all legend dropped like day one, yeah, yeah, exactly.

2258
01:37:32,159 --> 01:37:34,039
But it's like, yeah, I don't know. I saw I

2259
01:37:34,119 --> 01:37:35,920
still have things that I could play to, Like I

2260
01:37:36,199 --> 01:37:38,439
now you know that I wanted to see the whole

2261
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,399
time on Elder Ring. It's like, well, I have that,

2262
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,079
but I'm I'm so scared to go in there because

2263
01:37:42,079 --> 01:37:43,960
I've heard it's just so much harder than the actual

2264
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,840
bass game. And Lord helped me that. That definitely took

2265
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:48,680
some years off my life.

2266
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, I've heard that. I've also thought about the

2267
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:52,319
elm Ring. Do I just keep it like a summer

2268
01:37:52,319 --> 01:37:53,960
of love and I'm just like, you know what, I'm

2269
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:55,000
just gonna leave it where it is.

2270
01:37:55,079 --> 01:37:55,239
Speaker 2: You know.

2271
01:37:55,319 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 4: There was like one time I had a fling with

2272
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,840
something when I was younger, or someone that was I

2273
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,119
met while camping and they're in the oakan Augan for

2274
01:38:02,359 --> 01:38:04,680
just that summer and then they moved back to Edmonton,

2275
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,399
like they never came back and that was fine, Like

2276
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,239
we were younger and that's what all was. It's like,

2277
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,119
was that was that alm Ring for me? Was that

2278
01:38:10,279 --> 01:38:11,880
was just I'll never go back to Soul's game again.

2279
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,920
In just that year, it was like a summer flaying

2280
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:14,399
in the will.

2281
01:38:15,239 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: I think it's get hyped on the movie. Hopefully, hopefully

2282
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:18,479
that's true.

2283
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 2: That might be.

2284
01:38:19,159 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 4: Actually you're right, that might actually be. I should I

2285
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:23,600
think you've made the decision. I think I'm going to

2286
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,680
a table until that movie comes out, because then I

2287
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,359
like that, I'll give me a reason to get back

2288
01:38:27,399 --> 01:38:30,560
into it. Watch the movie never come out, and I'm like, fuck,

2289
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,199
but yeah, there's still stuff like I'm I'm I And

2290
01:38:33,279 --> 01:38:35,239
then again I went back and resid I was so

2291
01:38:35,359 --> 01:38:37,279
hyped on Residnuvil nine, I'll top on sequest. I went

2292
01:38:37,319 --> 01:38:39,199
back to play Residuevil two. You know, like that's how

2293
01:38:39,239 --> 01:38:42,159
hyped I was, And uh, there's still stuff. Oh bean

2294
01:38:42,239 --> 01:38:44,880
it twice. Yeah, yeah, but I was just like, I

2295
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,600
want to go back. I want to do this shit again,

2296
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:49,239
you know. So there's lots of stuff, but yeah, so

2297
01:38:49,279 --> 01:38:50,960
I don't know, we'll see what I'm talking on side quest,

2298
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,840
but lots of good stuff on the feeds. Maddy asks,

2299
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,199
how would you rank these projects in terms of your

2300
01:38:56,279 --> 01:38:59,520
hype level as of today? He put up Doomsday Doom

2301
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,439
three Man in the Odyssey for a little Maddie Verba

2302
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,600
Cheery put I voted Doomsday as my most anticipate for

2303
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,439
gold Geeks. So this might be a recency biased, but man,

2304
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,600
fresh off that Dune three trailer, I think do is

2305
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,439
saying this top spot for me. Don't need to see

2306
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,960
a single frame more. With that said, I will likely

2307
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,560
see Doomsday first due to fear of spoilers. That's a

2308
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,760
good point. We'll talk about doing in just a second here.

2309
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,600
So it's a good uh transition kind of even though Maddie,

2310
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,399
your next question is gonna bug us up with those Okay, yeah,

2311
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,960
we're rank those projects right now, Doom, doing Doomsday, doing

2312
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:28,720
three Spearmen in the.

2313
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:36,239
Speaker 1: Audis, yeah, am man, it's a tricky one. I'm gonna

2314
01:39:36,239 --> 01:39:37,319
have to go Spidy number one.

2315
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2316
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to go Spidy number one, and

2317
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,960
then I'll go sorry, what was the fourth after.

2318
01:39:44,119 --> 01:39:47,239
Speaker 4: Odyssey and Dune Doomsday? Avengers?

2319
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh? Fuck Avengers too?

2320
01:39:49,119 --> 01:39:51,159
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, holy.

2321
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Shit, Kay, yeah, I'm gonna do I'm gonna go Spidy,

2322
01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:00,319
Dune Doomsday and then Odyssey, purely on the fact that

2323
01:40:00,359 --> 01:40:03,000
I just got two trailers for those those top two

2324
01:40:03,079 --> 01:40:05,560
on my list. So that's like fresh in the mind, right,

2325
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:08,159
are you fucking kidding me?

2326
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,199
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna become a solo person cast. It really

2327
01:40:12,359 --> 01:40:16,520
is my honesty. Last, honestly, below Doomsday is criminal Kirkland.

2328
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: That's okay, fine, I'll swap those. I'll swap criminals fair enough.

2329
01:40:19,039 --> 01:40:22,760
I'll go outestly third, then Doomsday fourth. I don't know

2330
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,840
if that makes it better or worse. I mean, I'm

2331
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,239
still under the impression Dune is just not coming out

2332
01:40:27,279 --> 01:40:28,920
this year. I'm just kind of willing then.

2333
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 4: To even the trailer dating it this week.

2334
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, I guess You've got a good point, like

2335
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,760
they could do anything, right, man, I just feel like

2336
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:37,920
that I'm losing that argument.

2337
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:41,159
Speaker 4: I me too. I didn't put in my the Mike

2338
01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:42,840
when he did the box Office draft. Me and Mike

2339
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,600
both didn't put in our top ten because I thought

2340
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,840
they would move. But the fact also you can move anything, right.

2341
01:40:48,279 --> 01:40:50,359
We've covered before camera which movie was, Remember there was

2342
01:40:50,399 --> 01:40:52,079
a movie that dropped a trailer then a week after that.

2343
01:40:52,199 --> 01:40:53,479
I think it was like X Men of Palk They

2344
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,039
like delayed the movie even th that of dates, so

2345
01:40:55,359 --> 01:40:57,119
they can easily do that. I just felt like that

2346
01:40:57,319 --> 01:41:00,199
was like like, now we're not scared, We're gonna We're

2347
01:41:00,199 --> 01:41:02,000
still gonna come out, you know, And like I was like,

2348
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,199
all right, there's a good article too that I think

2349
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:07,159
Hollywood Reporter put out that, like, even the industry is

2350
01:41:07,239 --> 01:41:09,520
very divided because theater people are like, actually, this could

2351
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,720
be really great because we want big theaters, we want

2352
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,560
people to come in and see stuff. But then there's

2353
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,600
other people like they could hurt each other. People that

2354
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:17,399
are like they could fuck over Jamanju, which is the

2355
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:19,000
week before which people might be like, I'm not seeing

2356
01:41:19,039 --> 01:41:22,479
Jamanji if I'm here, Because again, these are gonna be

2357
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,760
I'm gonna say that's just round up. Say they're just

2358
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,000
both three hour movies. So with that, before we continue

2359
01:41:28,119 --> 01:41:31,399
Mike's play Expedition thirty three. Absolutely, that's another on same thing.

2360
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,159
Cyberpunk has is coming to Xbox Games Pass this month.

2361
01:41:34,159 --> 01:41:36,279
I always want to try it, right, So that's why

2362
01:41:36,279 --> 01:41:38,239
it's like, there's so many other great games. So and

2363
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:39,960
it'd be different if I wasn't buying a lot of

2364
01:41:40,039 --> 01:41:42,000
new games to review for side Quest this year. But

2365
01:41:42,039 --> 01:41:44,520
it's like I did Res, I'm doing Bond, I'm doing Batman,

2366
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,840
I'll be on GTA, I'll be on other stuff.

2367
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,039
Speaker 1: So you know, do you have PlayStation Plus, do you force?

2368
01:41:50,119 --> 01:41:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2369
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,239
Speaker 1: I got Premium Space Marine two just came to the

2370
01:41:53,279 --> 01:41:55,600
monthly games, and that's like an online co op. We

2371
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,159
gotta we gotta jump in there. We can force Taylor

2372
01:41:58,199 --> 01:41:59,359
into it like ARCS.

2373
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 4: Whatever the we will if we play, he'll go, He'll

2374
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,800
just fucking fall asleep. He'll just tell me, oh, trust

2375
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,840
don't worry. I'll be on in five minutes. Forty five

2376
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,880
minutes later. Trest in there with his dick in his hands,

2377
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,000
could have been getting laid. But no, I'm sitting awaiting

2378
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,359
for Ted. It's like, okay, cool, but no, Mike, I

2379
01:42:13,399 --> 01:42:14,960
do want to play because I've heard such great things

2380
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,279
about it, but I with both those movies are gonna

2381
01:42:18,279 --> 01:42:20,159
be three hours, right, so it's six hours right there.

2382
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,279
Previews are usually we'll say just for us or about

2383
01:42:23,319 --> 01:42:25,039
fourteen minutes, so that's a half an hour each. So

2384
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:27,880
that's three and a half travel time. You're looking at

2385
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:29,840
because what did I get to? I got to six

2386
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,680
and a half seven, So you're looking what pretty much

2387
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,039
between depending where you live, unless you live right across

2388
01:42:35,039 --> 01:42:37,119
the theater, and you might get pop You're gonna show

2389
01:42:37,159 --> 01:42:39,359
up early, get popcorn, because that's gonna be time where

2390
01:42:39,399 --> 01:42:41,000
kirk on you can't show up at screen time, because

2391
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:42,720
that's like, that's gonna be a busy night. If people

2392
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,880
there for Dune and Doomsday, that's gonna be a very

2393
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,359
busy night. So that's gonna i mean say that's an

2394
01:42:48,399 --> 01:42:51,079
eight hour venture at the theaters. I've said this before.

2395
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,439
I'm completely fine as a moviegoer, as a and we

2396
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,119
always are honest with you guys. As a podcaster, that

2397
01:42:57,319 --> 01:43:00,680
fucks us over so much monetization wise, not even joking

2398
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,399
because the SEO and stuff, because what happens is when

2399
01:43:03,399 --> 01:43:06,479
people search for our podcast or the Doomsday Review, it's

2400
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:08,239
gonna be there. But if we have to, because we

2401
01:43:08,279 --> 01:43:11,800
will review Doomsday, like Mike Mattie said, for spoilers. First,

2402
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,079
my ideal world is I hope you can line up

2403
01:43:14,079 --> 01:43:17,239
where we all we should probably talk when we get closer.

2404
01:43:17,319 --> 01:43:20,000
We all need to take the Friday off. We see

2405
01:43:20,039 --> 01:43:22,520
these movies, we review them. We put the Doom review

2406
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,279
at first, and then Doomsday because Doomsday, whatever people think,

2407
01:43:25,359 --> 01:43:26,079
will do bigger.

2408
01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:26,279
Speaker 2: Right.

2409
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 4: But the problem with a lot of algorithms on Apple

2410
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,840
and Spotify, I'm not so much sure on YouTube, but

2411
01:43:31,359 --> 01:43:33,600
when people search for the Doomsday one and they see

2412
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,479
geeks for still click on it, but the first episode

2413
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,079
show is Doom, so lots of people just go, oh,

2414
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:40,159
they didn't actually review that, so then they move along

2415
01:43:40,279 --> 01:43:43,680
right you want it. And that's why before fucking celebrity

2416
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,479
podcasters took over the podcast charts, we used to chart

2417
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,359
all the time, like Garden, Finny Wore and Aenning reviews

2418
01:43:48,399 --> 01:43:50,920
at one point like five for just like a couple

2419
01:43:51,319 --> 01:43:54,680
like days or even the week, but like top fifth

2420
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,960
review like TV and Apple podcasts in America, there is

2421
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:59,479
that episode right now, the whole podcast, which is the

2422
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,760
episode because it was it could see it right away.

2423
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,079
So that's where my fear is, we're gonna get shit

2424
01:44:04,199 --> 01:44:07,680
screen times. We're gonna have to review Doomsday on Thursday,

2425
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:09,560
then we have to do Dune on Friday, and it

2426
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,359
hurts both those right, and even then they could be right.

2427
01:44:12,399 --> 01:44:14,920
I don't know if it's gonna have I think I'm

2428
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:16,680
more on the side and I think we're gonna tullbos

2429
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,880
for the next year. I am on more side that

2430
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,760
I don't think it's like a Barbenheimer. I think with Barbarenheimer,

2431
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,520
those movies were different and that was kind of a

2432
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,199
fun like oh, like you have the dark depressing almost

2433
01:44:27,279 --> 01:44:32,119
bio biopic documentary of the bomb Oppenheimer. But then it's like, oh,

2434
01:44:32,199 --> 01:44:33,760
then you have a fun time of Barbie in the Gang.

2435
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:35,920
I feel like both Doomsday and Dune are gonna be

2436
01:44:36,079 --> 01:44:38,359
I'm not saying quality, I'm saying just similar themes of

2437
01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:41,720
really bad stuff happening to characters because it's like a

2438
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,039
big war, right, even Doomsday it might not be a war,

2439
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:46,279
but it's gonna be Doctor Doom. He's gonna fuck some

2440
01:44:46,319 --> 01:44:49,239
shit up, right, So I don't know. I hope they move,

2441
01:44:49,399 --> 01:44:52,319
but there's been more. I guess that report on Deadline

2442
01:44:52,399 --> 01:44:54,199
was or I think it's harly report that more industry

2443
01:44:54,239 --> 01:44:56,319
people like within or they're like, oh yeah no, there's

2444
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,119
like both those movies are staying. No one's moving. It's like, oh,

2445
01:44:59,399 --> 01:45:01,840
like that's a big and don't be wrong as a

2446
01:45:02,199 --> 01:45:04,520
box office guy, though, I'm fascinated to see how that

2447
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,119
goes for those two. Right, and again, what if like

2448
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:11,000
what if that happens where either one if one of

2449
01:45:11,039 --> 01:45:13,640
them reviews a little poor or if they're God forbid

2450
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,399
ones rotten, Because all I've heard is doing Massiah is

2451
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,079
a fucking weird book. Have you heard that before? Right?

2452
01:45:18,119 --> 01:45:19,920
People say the third one gets all weird and everything.

2453
01:45:20,079 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: Hidalgos is currently reading it right now, and he sends

2454
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,079
me some some screenshots of like some of the pages

2455
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:27,239
and quotes that are in there. Yeah, yeah, it's it's

2456
01:45:27,319 --> 01:45:27,880
fucking weird.

2457
01:45:28,119 --> 01:45:30,319
Speaker 4: So what if there's a chance that that movie comes

2458
01:45:30,359 --> 01:45:32,880
out and it is weird for the general audience and

2459
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,279
it becomes a like, I don't I don't really like

2460
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,359
not my Dune. I don't really enjoy it, right, Like

2461
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,600
it's not a like the same thing. But look at

2462
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:43,359
like Wicked to Wicked part two, right, the big thing that,

2463
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,479
like that big group of people, they didn't show up

2464
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,439
for that. So if let's say Dune two reviews even

2465
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,359
slightly negatively, and now it's competing with Doomsday, you'll get

2466
01:45:52,359 --> 01:45:54,039
a bunch of you like, well, I already saw a

2467
01:45:54,079 --> 01:45:56,600
three hour movie. I've heard people say Dune three is

2468
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,039
kind of weird or like not the greatest. I'll wait

2469
01:45:59,079 --> 01:46:02,119
till home, you know where If if Dune's alone, it's like, well,

2470
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:04,399
I'll go see Dune because there's nothing else. But when

2471
01:46:04,399 --> 01:46:07,159
you have Downy and Evans, like, I don't know if

2472
01:46:07,159 --> 01:46:09,159
it's gonna play the same or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe

2473
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:12,039
people are just like they they make it an event.

2474
01:46:12,119 --> 01:46:14,000
They sign up that day and they're like, we're gonna

2475
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,720
go see We're we're taking ten to eight hours a day,

2476
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,920
we're seeing both these movies. We're gonna group of friends together,

2477
01:46:20,119 --> 01:46:22,319
and maybe they are. I don't know how things go, Like,

2478
01:46:22,359 --> 01:46:23,800
how are you feeling about that right now? If like

2479
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:27,119
it's seeming if they do stay long term formcast, you

2480
01:46:27,159 --> 01:46:28,800
think that's good for them, bad for them in the middle,

2481
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:31,680
where's that going for you? And then Mattie, I'll answer

2482
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:32,319
your question after.

2483
01:46:33,239 --> 01:46:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I never thought it was a good

2484
01:46:35,359 --> 01:46:37,520
idea to begin with. That's why I was always kind

2485
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,520
of just saying that Dune was gonna move, Like I

2486
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:43,079
totally I still kind of feel that, even even though

2487
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:46,000
the date is in the trailer not Doom, so you.

2488
01:46:46,039 --> 01:46:50,239
Speaker 4: Never think Doomsday could move. I thought, like, I just

2489
01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:50,560
feel like.

2490
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,600
Speaker 1: That's the bigger one, so it's like the bigger one

2491
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,239
therefore would be the heaviest, So therefore the heaviest object

2492
01:46:55,279 --> 01:46:56,600
would move the hardest.

2493
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they got other shit they gotta do too, right,

2494
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,680
Like we get X men going, we gotta get like

2495
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,000
you they were done three, it's like gonna they it's

2496
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:04,920
gonna be the end, even though there's more books. They're

2497
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,399
marketing this as the epic conclusion. We're Marvel Supts to

2498
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,479
worry about, Like, well, we got Spermin five and Fantastic four.

2499
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,319
We gotta kim production, right, So.

2500
01:47:14,199 --> 01:47:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you make up some some really good

2501
01:47:18,359 --> 01:47:23,119
points about just the logistics of general audience seeing these

2502
01:47:23,359 --> 01:47:29,239
particular projects, and like the fact that Barbie and Oppenheimer

2503
01:47:29,279 --> 01:47:31,680
are so different. I think that's why it works so well.

2504
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:35,159
But yeah, these are pretty these are pretty adjacent type films.

2505
01:47:36,279 --> 01:47:41,399
To Peter, there's action in it. So Florence Pugh, Florence Pugh,

2506
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,840
she's killing it that day absolutely, which she deserves because

2507
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,359
she's amazing obviously, boys.

2508
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.

2509
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 1: I would be down to take the Friday off. I'll

2510
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:58,079
pitch it to the boys to tough one. I know

2511
01:47:58,199 --> 01:48:00,039
you have the sick days, so you can fucking I

2512
01:48:00,039 --> 01:48:03,079
would never never use those use I'm just saying you'll

2513
01:48:03,079 --> 01:48:05,039
probably be feeling sick around that time, so that you'll

2514
01:48:05,039 --> 01:48:06,680
be forced to actually take a sick day.

2515
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 4: Of course, eight theaters against people, don't throwing a popcorn

2516
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:12,960
on me and stuff. But like, no, I like, yeah,

2517
01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:14,840
hopefully Taylor would or like I said, I hope the

2518
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,439
screenings are early enough that and that's what I hope

2519
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:19,279
the theaters do. If they're gonna do this, be savvy,

2520
01:48:19,399 --> 01:48:21,720
have the theaters open up, because usually they only did

2521
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,520
it in the summer or during like holidays, where it's like,

2522
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,520
oh yeah, showings can start like two or four. Don't

2523
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,159
give me like yeah for showings at seven. It's like,

2524
01:48:29,159 --> 01:48:31,319
because I also don't want to go see Dune, like

2525
01:48:31,399 --> 01:48:33,479
because I'm with Maddie, I would say Doomsday first because

2526
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:35,159
of spoilers, right, I think with do in the book

2527
01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:37,359
being out, it's like if I get spoiled, it's gonna

2528
01:48:37,359 --> 01:48:40,000
be like before then we're Doomsday. That's gonna be a

2529
01:48:40,079 --> 01:48:43,760
mad dash to stay away from everything, right, chats, youtubes,

2530
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,720
et cetera. So, but do I really want to go

2531
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,399
see Dune at like nine forty five or ten? Not

2532
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,600
really like like after that? I don't know. So I

2533
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,600
will like they're if the screenings are early, I have

2534
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:57,439
no problems see them both back back. I love doing

2535
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,880
duple features. I just don't want that that long one.

2536
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,880
But so, Matt, you asked for hype, you didn't ask

2537
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,640
for I know it's different, I know the Sund's done,

2538
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:08,279
but for anticipation, when I anticipate something that's like I

2539
01:49:08,399 --> 01:49:10,319
really like this Dune Doomsday thing, like oh, I want

2540
01:49:10,319 --> 01:49:11,800
to say, this goes when you ask him. By hype,

2541
01:49:12,119 --> 01:49:15,239
that's a different list because I am technically more anticipated

2542
01:49:15,279 --> 01:49:17,439
for Doomsday than Spider Man, because I think I just

2543
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,479
want to see what the mess Doomsday could be or

2544
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,600
how they pull off the Hail Mary, right, But for

2545
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:29,000
my hype levels, it goes awesty it's tough, so it's

2546
01:49:29,039 --> 01:49:31,279
definitely the bottom two is definitely Spider Man on Doomsday.

2547
01:49:31,279 --> 01:49:33,319
I have Doomsday laugh because my hype is not there

2548
01:49:33,399 --> 01:49:35,279
for Doomsday right now. I'm sure will be well as

2549
01:49:35,319 --> 01:49:37,079
we get there. I'm excited to see all those returning

2550
01:49:37,119 --> 01:49:40,479
characters and once the marketing starts, great. But honesty is

2551
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:44,520
tough because versus doing three, because honesty is done by Nolan,

2552
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,840
who to me is the goat and I love almost

2553
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:48,520
all his films, and I think we're gonna get something

2554
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:52,439
special where Dune that June two to me is one

2555
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:54,000
of the greatest movies of all time, and this is

2556
01:49:54,039 --> 01:49:55,560
the follow up to it, right, So no one's made

2557
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:56,960
a couple of those to me, but this isn't like

2558
01:49:57,039 --> 01:49:59,159
a sequel to that. I think the reason I give

2559
01:49:59,239 --> 01:50:01,239
the Auesse the just because when people tell me all

2560
01:50:01,399 --> 01:50:04,159
like doom Assiah is weird, That's where it's like, what

2561
01:50:04,279 --> 01:50:06,359
if that doesn't transfer on screen? Right? Like what if

2562
01:50:06,399 --> 01:50:08,479
there is some issues with making that into a film

2563
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,439
that could still probably only be three hours. So I

2564
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,119
would go, honestly Dune three because I think doing three

2565
01:50:14,119 --> 01:50:16,680
has a bigger chance to stumble. I'm not saying they will.

2566
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:18,680
I trust the knee, but I'm just saying if you

2567
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,560
were asked me, Hey, if you were if Kirkham was

2568
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,159
a fortune teller and he's like, hey, one of these

2569
01:50:24,239 --> 01:50:26,279
movies ends up rawding? Is it doing three or Odyssey?

2570
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,039
I'm taking Dooing three every time. I don't think Odyssey's

2571
01:50:29,079 --> 01:50:30,920
gonna be rawten. In my opinion, I think doing three

2572
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,159
could take some big swings up. People are like fuck,

2573
01:50:33,279 --> 01:50:35,560
like they did what with the Worm? Like, I don't

2574
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,520
think I want to do anything with that? And yet

2575
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,680
Spider Man then Doomsday Spider Man. Like I'm not like

2576
01:50:42,199 --> 01:50:45,800
I'm hyped for, but I'm still cautiously I'm more hyped

2577
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,239
now after this trailer. I'm very excited for birth novel.

2578
01:50:49,279 --> 01:50:51,079
That's what I'm very excited for to get Punisher in there,

2579
01:50:51,159 --> 01:50:53,039
so I gotta see more of it. But uh, the

2580
01:50:53,239 --> 01:50:56,359
suit the shots, looking very forward to that. And then

2581
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,359
Maddie as Patson recently said in an interview that Batman

2582
01:50:59,359 --> 01:51:01,319
two will take some big swings and be very different

2583
01:51:01,319 --> 01:51:03,119
from the first film. And he quick takes us what

2584
01:51:03,239 --> 01:51:06,399
he could be referring to. Also random stat pretty wild

2585
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,680
how Pat passins and they have three movies together coming

2586
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,840
out this year. It is crazy because they got the drama,

2587
01:51:13,359 --> 01:51:16,960
they got Odyssey because she's in Odyssey, and then they

2588
01:51:17,039 --> 01:51:19,439
got doing three. So that is funny how that all

2589
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:21,039
worked out, because yeah, I remember the day I said that.

2590
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:22,840
I think she said like they had never even met before,

2591
01:51:23,159 --> 01:51:25,079
and now they worked together like three times in a row.

2592
01:51:25,279 --> 01:51:27,399
So hopefully it's good. We're gonna talk about doing the

2593
01:51:27,399 --> 01:51:31,319
second here, but big, like it's tough. I do think

2594
01:51:31,359 --> 01:51:34,039
with how long the Batman's taken and with Matt Reeves,

2595
01:51:34,039 --> 01:51:36,359
I think there probably is big swings. I feel like,

2596
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,359
of course the actor's gonna say that right, like he's

2597
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,279
contractedly obligated to do this movie. So if they ask him,

2598
01:51:42,279 --> 01:51:43,720
I don't think he'd be like, yeah, Matt really filmed

2599
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,840
this one in like we waved this long time. Yeah,

2600
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,600
we waited so long, and Matt really fucking shit the bed,

2601
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,000
you know, Like remember when James Gounna became the DC

2602
01:51:51,119 --> 01:51:53,439
head and said flash from the gravest superhero movies all time.

2603
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,199
So that's what it's like. I can only take it

2604
01:51:56,279 --> 01:51:58,680
so far. I think, to me what I've always said,

2605
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,399
and I still stand by this. The biggest swing would

2606
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,039
be that they're gonna gender swap two Face and it's

2607
01:52:04,079 --> 01:52:06,159
not gonna be Dent, It's gonna be scar Joe because

2608
01:52:06,159 --> 01:52:08,520
Scargo's playing his wife. And that's what I because even

2609
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,520
Matt Reeves and Matt Thomson's like, oh, we're getting someone

2610
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:12,920
with the villain's never been done before again, could that

2611
01:52:13,039 --> 01:52:15,600
just be bullshit? And it's just two Face And She's like, well,

2612
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,600
our version of two face never be done. Sure, But

2613
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:19,520
I think a big swing because I think pass and

2614
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,319
who I think is a fan of Colm Books would

2615
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,680
know reading that making two Face a woman this time,

2616
01:52:26,039 --> 01:52:27,560
that is a big swing and there's gonna be some

2617
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,399
people not happy with that. So I feel like it's

2618
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,640
I feel like that's just a big swing I can

2619
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,039
think of off the bat I don't know about other stuff.

2620
01:52:35,399 --> 01:52:37,039
I hope it's not too different, because when he said

2621
01:52:37,039 --> 01:52:39,520
it's very different, I hope not. Like I do want more,

2622
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:41,960
like not just the same movie, but like I want

2623
01:52:42,039 --> 01:52:43,600
more of the Batman. So I don't want to be

2624
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:47,840
like I don't want to be radically different. I want

2625
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:49,159
to just be more of the same with some new

2626
01:52:49,239 --> 01:52:52,680
story and of course some variations, right, But uh, yeah,

2627
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:56,119
that's what That's what my prediction is, is something with

2628
01:52:56,359 --> 01:52:58,279
the film. But you got anything there, Kirk, you think

2629
01:52:58,279 --> 01:52:59,039
it would be a big swing.

2630
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, my mind just goes to like a more

2631
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:07,159
I guess, less grounded type of villain. Like you know,

2632
01:53:07,239 --> 01:53:09,760
Batman does have some freak shows that he that he

2633
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:13,840
faces off with, right clay faces of the world. What's

2634
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,359
that like, undead guy that like can't die at all.

2635
01:53:18,279 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2636
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:20,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not.

2637
01:53:20,239 --> 01:53:22,039
Speaker 1: Saying we're getting this guy in this movie, but like

2638
01:53:22,119 --> 01:53:24,760
that's that's a freak show type villain that would be

2639
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:26,800
very different than what we've seen with like Paul Dano's.

2640
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,039
But I think kind of what you're pitching is probably

2641
01:53:29,079 --> 01:53:31,439
the more likely situation of just like a different rendition

2642
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:35,840
of the character the Cape Crusader Man. I love the

2643
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:37,760
different versions of the villains that we saw in that

2644
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,479
with with Harley Quinn that was so awesome. The gender

2645
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:44,720
swapped Penguin that was really really fun and just just

2646
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,680
a fresh coat of paint right on a character we've

2647
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:50,680
seen so many times before. And I mean, I'm sure

2648
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:54,279
there's people that hate that for stupid ass reasons, but

2649
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,439
it is fun for me, and I feel like, like

2650
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,680
I feel like the majority of people, but he gets

2651
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:01,039
in the air.

2652
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 4: It's like the people this week, like I like luckily

2653
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:05,560
know an artists court, Like people were saying it was stupid,

2654
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:06,600
but no one made a big deal of it. But

2655
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:08,960
people when I was searching clips and sing stuff, we're

2656
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:10,800
just losing their mind at these two second clips of

2657
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:12,359
the trailer, Like I can't believe someone would do this.

2658
01:54:12,399 --> 01:54:13,880
It's such a stud way dude, Like they're just killing

2659
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,439
their momentum. Just release the trailer. It's just like, no,

2660
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:18,439
you know why, because what happened. My sister texted me

2661
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,800
to be like, Hey, is this Spermen trailer out? Yeah, Like,

2662
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:22,119
can you send me a link so I know it's

2663
01:54:22,119 --> 01:54:23,880
the right one here, it is. That's how the GI

2664
01:54:24,039 --> 01:54:26,560
does this. Man, they're not fucking online being like there's

2665
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,199
two sayings like whenever I got mad the Avengers in

2666
01:54:29,239 --> 01:54:31,520
the chair thing, it's like no one really gives a fuck,

2667
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,760
you know, like, you know, really like real people give

2668
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,760
a fuck. There's just so much fake outrage, Like you

2669
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,039
don't you probably listen to Stressy, but I ran about

2670
01:54:39,039 --> 01:54:40,560
the whole Timity show me and the ballet thing.

2671
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 1: It's like I could watch that. Actually, okay, I liked

2672
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,119
it on Instagram. You should have noticed.

2673
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:47,199
Speaker 4: I don't really check the I don't check I tried

2674
01:54:47,239 --> 01:54:49,479
not to check them. I go on social media. I've

2675
01:54:49,479 --> 01:54:52,079
always said this during sports and wrestling, because that's when

2676
01:54:52,119 --> 01:54:54,359
social media is the best, when ship's popping off. And

2677
01:54:54,479 --> 01:54:57,359
then when I'm collecting like news before our newscats tressly

2678
01:54:57,439 --> 01:54:59,600
just because I missed something. But yeah, it's just like

2679
01:55:00,039 --> 01:55:02,199
who's actively like at home getting mad about like what

2680
01:55:02,319 --> 01:55:03,840
tim is you showing me said at the ballet, Like

2681
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,479
even if you disagree with them, it's like, who's getting

2682
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:07,359
mad about it?

2683
01:55:07,439 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: You know?

2684
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 4: I respect at least like it was dumb, but I

2685
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,119
at least respect a doja cat for being like, yeah,

2686
01:55:12,199 --> 01:55:13,720
I kind of just did it for like she like

2687
01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:16,279
blasted them, and then like two days there she's like,

2688
01:55:16,319 --> 01:55:18,079
you know what that was dumb. I just kind of

2689
01:55:18,079 --> 01:55:20,800
did it for the engagement, and like I apologize for that.

2690
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,199
It's like and that's why again you never know social media, right,

2691
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:25,640
are these people actually upset or that's the same thing.

2692
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,520
If Harvey Dent is a woman, you know what, I'm

2693
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,840
gonna go, Oh cool, Scardo, Let's see what happens. I've

2694
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,279
always said before I would fucking love a female joker.

2695
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,439
Like we have so many a getting with two face.

2696
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:37,479
It's like, I know some people be mad. It's like,

2697
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:42,399
you got Tommy d or Tommy d Jones, Tommy Lee Jones,

2698
01:55:42,439 --> 01:55:45,039
not d Jones, Tommy Tommy that's what that's what his

2699
01:55:45,159 --> 01:55:46,920
life calls. And tell me d Jones, but tell me

2700
01:55:47,039 --> 01:55:51,159
Lee Jones. You got Aaron Eckhart. There's countless of animation adaptions.

2701
01:55:51,239 --> 01:55:54,760
It's like, sure, may get a woman. I'm not gonna care. Like,

2702
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:56,520
all I'm gonna care is if it's a story sucks.

2703
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,920
If the story sucks, and be like man, this like

2704
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:01,000
if she burns herself and she's like I'm doing this

2705
01:56:01,039 --> 01:56:02,880
because I'm a woman. Yeah, I'm gonna say, well, that

2706
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:04,960
fucking suck. I don't know why they did that, because

2707
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:06,840
she just said she's a woman. That's why she's two faced,

2708
01:56:07,079 --> 01:56:08,800
Like they gotta do something so outrageous.

2709
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

2710
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,119
Speaker 4: I hope the Big swing's not Robin. That's my thing too.

2711
01:56:12,159 --> 01:56:15,239
I don't want fucking Robin this movie at all. That

2712
01:56:15,319 --> 01:56:17,159
comes from someone that named one of their kids after

2713
01:56:17,199 --> 01:56:21,479
Dick Grayson, I do not want not here. I will pass.

2714
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:27,800
I know this Richard after Dylan's dad as well. No Grayson,

2715
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,880
Elli Grayson, Ellie Grace, Ellie's midle name is Grayson, like

2716
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:31,560
you have a son.

2717
01:56:34,439 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: Was born.

2718
01:56:35,079 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't like him, that's what you guys have. Man,

2719
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:38,960
he's he doesn't shown us true pality.

2720
01:56:39,039 --> 01:56:41,279
Speaker 1: Yet he hangs out with Tony while we're over.

2721
01:56:41,399 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think less of me, father, I do. Man,

2722
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:45,560
that guy's so good.

2723
01:56:47,079 --> 01:56:48,359
Speaker 1: You wish it was being the dud.

2724
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:53,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I have no debt to dois this? I

2725
01:56:53,159 --> 01:56:54,720
just wish you died period.

2726
01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:57,479
Speaker 1: Your tomatoes.

2727
01:56:58,319 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 4: Uh, now to the transition is over here. This might

2728
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,039
be the longest just two man weekly geek over my god,

2729
01:57:03,159 --> 01:57:05,640
we still we'll power through some of these clay ass

2730
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:07,600
with the rival Dune three trade, which we talk about.

2731
01:57:08,119 --> 01:57:10,640
Would any of you try spice from Dune if getting

2732
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,199
hooked on a hallucinenic drug meant the gift of foresight?

2733
01:57:13,359 --> 01:57:15,119
Would you get hooked on that drug? I think I

2734
01:57:15,239 --> 01:57:17,119
know you're he said, Taylor, I think I know your answer,

2735
01:57:17,159 --> 01:57:19,039
which he's not here, but he didn't need to be.

2736
01:57:19,119 --> 01:57:21,079
We know he would. He would be one the gift

2737
01:57:21,119 --> 01:57:23,199
of foresight? But yeah, what would you? Would you be

2738
01:57:23,279 --> 01:57:25,479
fucking with drugs that give you the gift of foresight?

2739
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2740
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:29,279
Speaker 1: This is a very interesting, like am I in this world?

2741
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,760
Like like we're following the Dune rules? This is the

2742
01:57:32,479 --> 01:57:34,000
like we got a rackuss, we got all of this.

2743
01:57:34,359 --> 01:57:35,319
Is that this how this works?

2744
01:57:35,399 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 2: Or it's just.

2745
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 4: Would any of you try the spice from Dune if

2746
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:43,359
getting hooked? Yeah? He never said if you were there,

2747
01:57:43,399 --> 01:57:46,079
So I'm just assuming that Ned leads from Spider Man

2748
01:57:46,199 --> 01:57:48,920
selling the spices from Done and you can buy it

2749
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:52,359
from him. That's it's legal toos, it's illegal.

2750
01:57:52,399 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 1: You know, they don't really say. It's like like they

2751
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:58,079
don't really talk. I mean the books might, but they

2752
01:57:58,079 --> 01:57:59,720
don't really get in the nitty gritty of like the

2753
01:58:00,039 --> 01:58:03,520
permanent health issues that might come with it, Like do

2754
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,640
you get lung cancer from from huffing some from some spice.

2755
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,399
I'm sure it can't be good. It's not natural, but

2756
01:58:09,439 --> 01:58:11,439
it's natural to the planet of Oracus. But like I'm

2757
01:58:11,439 --> 01:58:13,000
also not from that planet, so it might have some

2758
01:58:13,119 --> 01:58:15,800
harsh Taking all those factors out of it, and you know,

2759
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:17,239
let's just say it's really worried.

2760
01:58:18,079 --> 01:58:19,279
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have a drug users.

2761
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:24,039
Speaker 1: There's a very just just random at a party, somebody

2762
01:58:24,079 --> 01:58:26,199
hands me something, they say, hey, hit this, there's some

2763
01:58:26,319 --> 01:58:29,119
spice from Dune. I feel like I would be interested.

2764
01:58:29,119 --> 01:58:31,359
I feel like I would try it. Yeah, why not?

2765
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:33,680
I know your answer? Your clean cut. You're boring.

2766
01:58:34,199 --> 01:58:37,439
Speaker 4: No, there's two ways not boring. It's called health. I

2767
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,680
got the I got the Alaska.

2768
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,119
Speaker 1: Monitor home monitor.

2769
01:58:42,159 --> 01:58:44,319
Speaker 4: Over here, this guy I got the Alaska better than

2770
01:58:44,319 --> 01:58:47,239
everyone shoulder. You see how Hold had that SHOWLDO show.

2771
01:58:47,279 --> 01:58:49,399
That's the fucking straight edge, straightedge.

2772
01:58:49,399 --> 01:58:50,359
Speaker 1: I got four edp.

2773
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 4: I have. I've been straightedge from my entire life. Not

2774
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:57,800
a drawn of liquor, cigarette, anything like that. A bunch

2775
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,560
of different reasons. Health reasons growing out. People A bunch

2776
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:01,840
of people always tell me I was gonna do it

2777
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,119
because I grew up in high school was very people

2778
01:59:04,159 --> 01:59:06,880
doing fucking cocaine high school and just very druggy. If

2779
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,039
like you'll do it, you'll do it eventually. Even my

2780
01:59:09,319 --> 01:59:11,039
father in law has been like, oh, he'll drink one day,

2781
01:59:11,039 --> 01:59:13,159
don't worry. It's like not like you, peeple, don't get

2782
01:59:13,199 --> 01:59:13,600
me worried.

2783
01:59:15,039 --> 01:59:16,079
Speaker 1: He'll get past the space.

2784
01:59:16,159 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna be fucking plaster when you marry him.

2785
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:20,319
You want to know, that's how I got the fuck

2786
01:59:20,359 --> 01:59:22,319
it's no again. And I'm the one of those like,

2787
01:59:22,399 --> 01:59:24,079
don't do it. I'm more of that on fucking religion.

2788
01:59:24,079 --> 01:59:25,600
I don't care what you put in your body. I'm

2789
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:27,640
putting my own stuff in my body. So taking that

2790
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:30,199
aside though, And I think, like I've always said, like

2791
01:59:30,239 --> 01:59:32,079
if I ever get the diagnosis of like the Walter

2792
01:59:32,199 --> 01:59:34,760
White like lung cancer six months, that's when I'm like,

2793
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,159
all right, give me, give me that cocaine, give me

2794
01:59:37,239 --> 01:59:39,199
that weed, like, and then I'll try something like rum.

2795
01:59:39,319 --> 01:59:42,640
I love the smell rum. The smell of rum real interesting.

2796
01:59:43,399 --> 01:59:45,840
Oh yeah, yeah.

2797
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: People were beer.

2798
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 4: Though, like anytime, you know, like the no, And that's

2799
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:54,159
where that's that's what's cool now is when non alcoholic

2800
01:59:54,199 --> 01:59:55,920
stuff I can have people try that and be like,

2801
01:59:56,039 --> 01:59:58,239
what does this taste similar? And when people like I

2802
01:59:58,319 --> 01:59:59,840
think the last time we had our summer get to

2803
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,279
get they're like someone of the zeros I can't remember

2804
02:00:02,319 --> 02:00:04,319
it was you or Kyle with some of the Corona zeros.

2805
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:06,000
I try one of those and so I said, oh,

2806
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:07,720
they're just like that. I'm like, well, these fucking suck.

2807
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,800
Like I don't think i'd be a beer guy. Minute, No,

2808
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:12,960
I didn't. That probably would have helped. That probably would help. Yeah,

2809
02:00:13,119 --> 02:00:14,680
Or my dad was a big beer guy. He didn't

2810
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:16,319
drink anymore now either, but like he was a big

2811
02:00:16,399 --> 02:00:18,399
beer guy. And that's the thing where but this is

2812
02:00:18,439 --> 02:00:20,239
a different question, right, This is not to me like

2813
02:00:20,279 --> 02:00:23,000
a drug. This is like the the aspect of like

2814
02:00:23,159 --> 02:00:26,720
you get the gift of foresight thing. I think that's interesting.

2815
02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:28,880
I always would love to have some sort of power.

2816
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:30,680
There was a point in my life, Kirklam that I

2817
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:32,399
did want to look into some voodoo and ne Orleans.

2818
02:00:32,479 --> 02:00:34,640
I decided not to touch the stuff, but I did

2819
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:36,319
want to look in and get in that culture and

2820
02:00:36,359 --> 02:00:39,680
see what's going on. I think gift to foresight, though

2821
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:41,880
I don't know if I want to mess with that.

2822
02:00:42,079 --> 02:00:44,840
I think it's that chicken egg scenarios. You see something,

2823
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:47,760
you know, if I if I see myself pushing Kirkling

2824
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,920
down the stairs, is that always gonna happen? Or do

2825
02:00:51,079 --> 02:00:54,000
we make events that happened to me to get to

2826
02:00:54,039 --> 02:00:55,239
push Kirkling down the stairs?

2827
02:00:55,319 --> 02:00:55,439
Speaker 2: Right?

2828
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:57,479
Speaker 4: I think that's the thing. Like the same thing if

2829
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,399
I knew the day I die, that could be great

2830
02:00:59,399 --> 02:01:01,960
because you could for that have anything deck in row. No, Okay,

2831
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:03,960
I got twenty five years, I gotta do this. This

2832
02:01:04,039 --> 02:01:06,800
is this prior towards what is like important. But at

2833
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:08,720
the same time, that would fuck with you. You would

2834
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:10,880
think about that could make you sad, depressed. So I

2835
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:14,119
think foresight that's the problem where there's an aspect of

2836
02:01:14,159 --> 02:01:15,600
me though like that, but I feel like it's just

2837
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:18,359
you see one bad vision and you're just fucked and

2838
02:01:18,399 --> 02:01:20,159
then I think you go down that rabbit hole if

2839
02:01:20,159 --> 02:01:22,960
you're just trying to get more visions, so like context,

2840
02:01:23,039 --> 02:01:24,880
what's going on or what's led up to that you know,

2841
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:27,720
and just like you just never know. So I'm not

2842
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:31,279
like a everything in life happens for a reason type

2843
02:01:31,279 --> 02:01:35,760
of guy, but I am kind of There's just there's

2844
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:39,279
some odd coincidences in life where you know, if you

2845
02:01:39,359 --> 02:01:41,880
don't turn I think I believe more and almost the

2846
02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:44,520
multiverse aspect of because there's just too many scenarios, right.

2847
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:46,880
Minimally have talked about this before because we have different Definitely,

2848
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:48,119
what's your definition of a soulmate?

2849
02:01:48,199 --> 02:01:52,039
Speaker 1: Kirkland, what's my definition of a soulmate?

2850
02:01:52,159 --> 02:01:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2851
02:01:52,359 --> 02:01:54,399
Speaker 4: Because me Andimally have different definitions. We that's what we

2852
02:01:54,439 --> 02:01:55,399
figured out we was talking about.

2853
02:01:55,399 --> 02:01:56,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think it's a one of

2854
02:01:56,800 --> 02:02:00,359
one thing like some people might me either, go find that, but.

2855
02:02:00,439 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 4: She just thought so many men with the person who

2856
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:03,560
spent your whole life with, like if you met them

2857
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:05,840
and like, oh that's my soulmate, like you you become

2858
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:08,119
the soulmate where I feel like to me, so it's

2859
02:02:08,119 --> 02:02:11,880
always been there's only one person out there forever, like

2860
02:02:12,079 --> 02:02:12,560
like you're not.

2861
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: Gonna find that's your definition?

2862
02:02:14,119 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah to me? So not no, no, not my definition.

2863
02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:18,560
But I've always took it as is that's like it's

2864
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:20,479
fate You've met this person where for me it's like

2865
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:22,760
if I didn't end up homeless in the Yukon, which

2866
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:24,199
you could say is fate, but like I don't apply

2867
02:02:24,239 --> 02:02:25,880
it best buy, and then I don't meet Emily. If

2868
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:29,399
the Yukon job never goes away, I could be I

2869
02:02:29,439 --> 02:02:31,119
could never even meet Emily because she lived in vern

2870
02:02:31,199 --> 02:02:32,880
a different city, right, So that's what it's like. It's

2871
02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:34,720
hard for me to believe that, like, no matter what,

2872
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:36,600
we had always met and I'm and I think it's

2873
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:38,680
always arrogant for me to be like, oh, there's no

2874
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:40,640
one else in this world, eight billion people that Emily

2875
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:42,119
could have met and been like fill in love with

2876
02:02:42,199 --> 02:02:44,439
their married and everything. Right. So that's why I don't

2877
02:02:44,439 --> 02:02:46,479
believe in that sense of like a soulmate, where there's

2878
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:49,560
someone out there that's you're gonna find that that that's

2879
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:52,359
your destiny to get that person, right, because you take

2880
02:02:52,399 --> 02:02:54,119
a left, your life playing changes.

2881
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like in this adventure that is your life,

2882
02:02:58,079 --> 02:03:00,319
you took all those paths to lead you to to hear.

2883
02:03:00,479 --> 02:03:02,439
So then you can make the argument, well, and that

2884
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:06,079
is your soulmate because all of your all of your decisions.

2885
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:08,840
Speaker 4: Although you know, I like to think is free will,

2886
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:11,079
though it just happened. I wasn't destined to find her.

2887
02:03:11,279 --> 02:03:14,640
Speaker 1: I I come with like a mixed mind of like

2888
02:03:15,039 --> 02:03:17,199
I think things do happen for a reason, but I

2889
02:03:17,239 --> 02:03:19,319
think you still have to put yourself in those situations

2890
02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:22,359
to like really get the wheel moving. But like, man,

2891
02:03:22,439 --> 02:03:25,199
the universe just does things. Like sometimes yes, I feel

2892
02:03:25,239 --> 02:03:27,279
like I feel like I don't like most of the

2893
02:03:27,439 --> 02:03:30,079
coincidences probably happened, but like most of the time, I

2894
02:03:30,119 --> 02:03:32,560
feel like there's just there's just things that play. Who

2895
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:35,720
knows various stuff that maybe there's there's yeah, well.

2896
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:37,439
Speaker 4: And that's where the fund is well, and that's where

2897
02:03:37,439 --> 02:03:39,479
it comes with the whole like dreams in deja vu.

2898
02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:41,119
That shit fucks me up to all times, like why

2899
02:03:41,119 --> 02:03:41,640
am I having this?

2900
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:44,359
Speaker 1: That does make it absolutely especially when it's like, you know,

2901
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:46,399
for a fact, I've never been in this situation before,

2902
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,840
Like to a t everything is happening, yeah.

2903
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole matrix. And so that's why not even

2904
02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:52,119
the drug sing I just wouldn't take be is I

2905
02:03:52,239 --> 02:03:55,439
need the gift to foresight. There's too much, there's too

2906
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:57,159
much that could mess with you. I guess I'm not

2907
02:03:57,319 --> 02:03:59,640
that type of person, and I think that'd be you'd

2908
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:01,319
have to ask a different times. I guess right. Maybe

2909
02:04:01,319 --> 02:04:03,800
if I was single, no family, kids, it'd be different.

2910
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:06,479
But like Lady Jessica and Dune, she has the power

2911
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:07,880
to take that in. I don't know if I could,

2912
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:10,199
I think even then, I don't know if I want

2913
02:04:10,199 --> 02:04:11,840
to hear people's prophecies, right Like, I don't know if

2914
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:15,239
I want that power to see a bunch of futures,

2915
02:04:15,279 --> 02:04:17,720
even my own, and then try to not hinker with that,

2916
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,199
because I feel like you would. That would mess you

2917
02:04:20,319 --> 02:04:21,560
up no matter what you saw, if you saw the

2918
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:23,840
person you got married to, or your death or some

2919
02:04:24,079 --> 02:04:27,239
big event, I think that would change things in your life.

2920
02:04:27,359 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 1: So it absolutely would. Yes, But I'm curious. I'll try.

2921
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:32,760
I'll take a hit of that.

2922
02:04:33,159 --> 02:04:36,079
Speaker 4: I'm curious. Uh two in three, what do you think

2923
02:04:36,119 --> 02:04:38,079
of Astralia Kirklan? Uh?

2924
02:04:38,319 --> 02:04:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, this one's fucking hypes. I am very blind

2925
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,720
on this one. I haven't looked at the posters. Uh yeah,

2926
02:04:45,239 --> 02:04:47,479
Hidalgo told me not to. He says that there's a

2927
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:51,000
pretty decent spoiler in the posters. He was getting pretty

2928
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:51,560
heated about it.

2929
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:52,479
Speaker 2: There is one.

2930
02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I learned about it because of that. I was like,

2931
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:57,159
why why does this look like that?

2932
02:04:57,439 --> 02:05:01,279
Speaker 1: But I see Yeah, but uh so I have taken

2933
02:05:02,039 --> 02:05:04,199
this poster. I knew you were gonna pull some up

2934
02:05:04,279 --> 02:05:10,199
like that, but we have to blur that for the

2935
02:05:10,439 --> 02:05:11,640
the YouTube we're gonna get pulled.

2936
02:05:12,119 --> 02:05:14,319
Speaker 4: It's not jen before. It hasn't happened yet, So I

2937
02:05:14,399 --> 02:05:17,079
think it was so far away video for that.

2938
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, it's it's still just so hype. I

2939
02:05:24,079 --> 02:05:26,439
I love the first movie. The second movie was like

2940
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:29,279
even better of an experience. I feel like at that

2941
02:05:29,359 --> 02:05:31,119
time too, I like rewatched the first one, so I

2942
02:05:31,199 --> 02:05:33,359
kind of understood a little bit more about what was

2943
02:05:33,439 --> 02:05:36,079
going on. Uh, you know, compared to somebody that reads

2944
02:05:36,239 --> 02:05:39,359
reads the book. I'm still just blind going into this.

2945
02:05:40,319 --> 02:05:43,600
But holy fuck, like the cast it like, come on,

2946
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:48,039
we got more deep polytrates like on your Tailor's in

2947
02:05:48,119 --> 02:05:50,600
here now, like like all of the pieces in here, Denise,

2948
02:05:51,399 --> 02:05:53,359
Like this is gonna be another ten out of ten.

2949
02:05:53,479 --> 02:05:55,319
I I think if it's not, it's gonna be a

2950
02:05:55,439 --> 02:05:58,640
really really upsetting for us at least time for me.

2951
02:05:59,279 --> 02:06:02,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to relive this fucking Golden geeg single.

2952
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 1: Two that you got to be there with me, you know,

2953
02:06:04,199 --> 02:06:05,720
next time for the on the review.

2954
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:06,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

2955
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:11,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was tough alone defending between those two. But yeah,

2956
02:06:11,479 --> 02:06:12,560
this trailer was so ipe.

2957
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:15,159
Speaker 2: Uh oh.

2958
02:06:15,319 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna say, you kill my train

2959
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:17,279
of thought.

2960
02:06:18,199 --> 02:06:20,439
Speaker 4: You're talking about people being back, Momo's back.

2961
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:26,039
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Momo's back. Seems like there's gonna be

2962
02:06:26,039 --> 02:06:30,039
a big clash between Paul and uh Johnny I think

2963
02:06:30,039 --> 02:06:33,279
that's her name. Yeah, it was cute shot.

2964
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what's very interesting, right. I love when he's like, oh,

2965
02:06:37,079 --> 02:06:39,720
I'm prepared to die, just not today. And that's where

2966
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,039
I don't know when they are when they're in the tent,

2967
02:06:43,239 --> 02:06:44,920
have to be in this trailer and he's like holding her.

2968
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:47,319
Do you think are they having an affair throughout? Because

2969
02:06:47,439 --> 02:06:49,760
I think they've said this takes place seventeen years after

2970
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:52,079
doing two, which is crazy because like, I know they're

2971
02:06:52,079 --> 02:06:54,000
gonna put some makeup on these people, but like teammate

2972
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:56,800
did not like seven years seventeen years older, like you

2973
02:06:56,840 --> 02:06:58,840
got to you gotta do some more makeup. But like,

2974
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:01,000
do you think those are time in between that they

2975
02:07:01,039 --> 02:07:03,319
were maybe having a fit because like he marries Florence

2976
02:07:03,399 --> 02:07:05,600
Pugh and then because they were in love, right, but

2977
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:07,439
he kind of did, like as a power play to

2978
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:10,159
marry Florence Peugh, right, kind of unite the families. Do

2979
02:07:10,239 --> 02:07:12,800
you think they were having a fair in that time?

2980
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:15,880
Do you think that's a flashback to when they were

2981
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:17,279
together in some of their children or do you think

2982
02:07:17,319 --> 02:07:18,960
it's like a dream like when they do have those

2983
02:07:19,039 --> 02:07:21,239
visions and sometimes they come true, sometimes they don't write

2984
02:07:21,239 --> 02:07:23,720
because they showed even in June One, there's visions that

2985
02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:26,000
guy that he killed, Remember at the end of the

2986
02:07:26,039 --> 02:07:28,000
movie when he kills that guy, he is having visions

2987
02:07:28,039 --> 02:07:30,039
the whole time about him, like that guy taking him

2988
02:07:30,119 --> 02:07:31,920
under his wing and like training him and everything. Right,

2989
02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:34,199
So it's like, that's what I'm curious about. I think

2990
02:07:34,239 --> 02:07:38,000
I leaned towards their visions maybe, but I could see

2991
02:07:38,039 --> 02:07:40,159
them maybe having an affair in that time too, right,

2992
02:07:40,199 --> 02:07:42,680
because you know, seventeen years, I don't know how much

2993
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:44,159
him and Pee love each other. So what do you

2994
02:07:44,199 --> 02:07:44,840
take from that when.

2995
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 6: They were in the tent there, Yeah, I mean it

2996
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:51,600
had just the whole feel of those trippy, like those

2997
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:53,840
trippy dream sequences of like this this is like a

2998
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:57,119
future that didn't really happen, or might happen or or

2999
02:07:57,279 --> 02:07:59,159
you know something like that, like we've seen like the

3000
02:07:59,199 --> 02:08:00,439
comparison you brought up.

3001
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:04,359
Speaker 1: Seventeen years like that. I didn't know about that long

3002
02:08:04,399 --> 02:08:06,920
of a time gap. I assume there was one, especially

3003
02:08:07,039 --> 02:08:14,119
like thinking about who Anya's character is, yes, yeah, yeah, exactly,

3004
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:17,880
Uh who, I guess she's supposed to be seventeen years

3005
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:20,960
old in this even though like probably older than to me,

3006
02:08:21,199 --> 02:08:22,239
like in real life.

3007
02:08:22,479 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 4: It's like Florence Pugh fucking playing a ten year old

3008
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:29,479
and yeah, I'm all over. I guess it's I just

3009
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,039
say it's space magic. You know, they push differently on

3010
02:08:32,119 --> 02:08:33,039
a racus and everything.

3011
02:08:33,159 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 1: So for sure, I think you might be right about

3012
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:41,479
the I'm not saying that's your theory or if you

3013
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:43,960
believe that, but just some people have been saying that, Uh.

3014
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:49,560
Speaker 4: There's some sort of but it's weird, Like to me,

3015
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:51,439
he's always having visions about the future, right, so I

3016
02:08:51,439 --> 02:08:53,960
don't think he'd be having visions about the past has

3017
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,000
already changed, right, So I don't know.

3018
02:08:56,119 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 1: And also like Paul from the like the last act

3019
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:02,720
of the second movie when he drinks the blue stuff,

3020
02:09:03,199 --> 02:09:06,119
compared to where he was any other period of the

3021
02:09:06,159 --> 02:09:08,680
Dude Adventure, like he's just such a different person now

3022
02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:11,079
from that point on. Yes, And I think I think

3023
02:09:11,119 --> 02:09:13,359
he's gonna be even more extreme in this third movie,

3024
02:09:13,399 --> 02:09:16,760
even more like Taranqua and like probably seem like a

3025
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:20,800
villain like he he's like talking in absolutes, only a

3026
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:22,239
Sith speaks in absolutes like.

3027
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:25,279
Speaker 4: Very akin if he were to feed the amper type

3028
02:09:25,319 --> 02:09:25,920
of vibe, you know.

3029
02:09:26,319 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's gonna be felt like he's

3030
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:30,760
going to be really cold compared to what we've seen

3031
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:33,880
in the past, and I think that goes against what

3032
02:09:34,039 --> 02:09:36,000
we saw of that scene in the tent. And even

3033
02:09:36,039 --> 02:09:39,319
if it is like a like an earlier memory, compared

3034
02:09:39,319 --> 02:09:41,039
to where he was when he's got the fucking slim,

3035
02:09:41,119 --> 02:09:43,359
shady shaved head and his face hat and looking all

3036
02:09:43,439 --> 02:09:46,880
mean looking at the camera. I miss that he's got

3037
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:48,600
a little something under his eyebrow. I thought I was

3038
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:51,800
sick tear drop, but it was just like a it's

3039
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:53,319
like a tattoo. It looks permanent.

3040
02:09:54,359 --> 02:09:57,079
Speaker 4: Really, I thought it was just a scratch that I

3041
02:09:57,079 --> 02:09:58,000
don't think that's permanent.

3042
02:09:59,279 --> 02:10:02,680
Speaker 1: Take a looking, let me know what you think. But yeah,

3043
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,840
so so comparing where he was at the end of

3044
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:08,359
the last movie as well as kind of what's shown here.

3045
02:10:09,279 --> 02:10:11,760
It seems to kind of clash with that tense sequence

3046
02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:13,479
for me, like it doesn't seem like that's something that

3047
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:16,640
he would really be doing, even though at the end

3048
02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:19,119
of the last movie, like he still felt like there

3049
02:10:19,199 --> 02:10:20,960
was some Paul in there, right, like when he speaks

3050
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:25,319
to Johnny before he clashes. I don't know, Yeah, I

3051
02:10:25,399 --> 02:10:27,399
think they could just still be a tattoo, could still

3052
02:10:27,439 --> 02:10:27,840
be muck.

3053
02:10:28,359 --> 02:10:29,239
Speaker 4: It could be a tattoo.

3054
02:10:29,279 --> 02:10:32,239
Speaker 1: I guess, we'll see, we'll see. It could be some

3055
02:10:32,319 --> 02:10:35,960
warm juice. Who knows. But yeah, I don't know.

3056
02:10:36,199 --> 02:10:38,239
Speaker 4: I was like trying to say, some horrifying pictures of

3057
02:10:38,319 --> 02:10:39,520
them can.

3058
02:10:42,319 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 1: Zoom in a def video viewers.

3059
02:10:45,439 --> 02:10:45,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

3060
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:49,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm I'm scared. I'm scared of what's gonna

3061
02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:51,359
be going on with Paul here because I I love

3062
02:10:51,439 --> 02:10:53,159
this character and they do such a good job of

3063
02:10:53,279 --> 02:10:57,000
like telling his his story, uh through these Deny movies.

3064
02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:01,439
But yeah, I'm I'm so pumped though, man, Like when

3065
02:11:01,479 --> 02:11:03,920
there's like that clash with like the samurai looking people

3066
02:11:04,279 --> 02:11:06,920
and like the other faction just going at it, like

3067
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:10,439
this is just gonna be like I'm chilling. I'm chilling already. Yeah,

3068
02:11:12,079 --> 02:11:13,840
well I gotta I gotta scroll and get this.

3069
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:17,399
Speaker 2: Going, man yokey.

3070
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 1: Like that was that was going while I was watching

3071
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:23,359
this trailer.

3072
02:11:23,479 --> 02:11:26,319
Speaker 4: So that though, that's the problem though that they didn't

3073
02:11:26,359 --> 02:11:29,239
have She wasn't belting the stumers more than she comes back,

3074
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:31,960
I hope. So they were saying, there was like it

3075
02:11:32,079 --> 02:11:35,359
was his chanting that was used as the music. But yeah, no,

3076
02:11:35,479 --> 02:11:37,680
I have nothing but good things to say. I trust

3077
02:11:37,680 --> 02:11:39,640
any Like, we were talking about the hype and things

3078
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:42,600
that could go wrong. Sure, that could happen. That always

3079
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:44,439
happens in movies. Where do you think something's gonna go

3080
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:47,199
completely right? Like, I don't get me wrong if you

3081
02:11:47,359 --> 02:11:49,520
I still love the movie. I defend the movie all

3082
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:51,800
the time. But only the Dark Knight Rise is as

3083
02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:53,600
perfect as I was kind of hoping it was. Right

3084
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:55,479
on the lead up to that movie, I thought, oh man,

3085
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:58,439
it's Nolan bad McGinn's Dark Knight and I always again

3086
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:01,199
grade them on the curve. The guy Dave Ledger, he

3087
02:12:01,239 --> 02:12:03,760
had changed the whole fucking script. It's like, wikona forever.

3088
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:06,079
I'm never gonna really go hard against that, right, But

3089
02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:07,479
that's why it's like, yeah, I kind of love that

3090
02:12:07,640 --> 02:12:09,920
to be a bit more tighter of a movie, right,

3091
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:11,600
so and doing three Kids to be that when I

3092
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:13,880
hear it's getting weird, I feel like when things get weird,

3093
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:15,520
I've heard people be like, this is gonna be very

3094
02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:18,800
hard to adapt on screen. That's not like a I'm

3095
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:20,359
not worried because I trust the need. But at the

3096
02:12:20,359 --> 02:12:22,439
same time, that's still like, okay, if things go wrong,

3097
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:24,359
I can see like I'm prep for it, right if

3098
02:12:24,479 --> 02:12:26,800
I'm sitting there and I go, oh, this is more

3099
02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:28,359
like a nine out of ten or eight point five.

3100
02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:30,319
I don't think that hurt is bad because just some

3101
02:12:30,479 --> 02:12:32,680
people have said it's gonna be a hard adaption. But

3102
02:12:33,279 --> 02:12:36,399
visuals look great, acting looks great. This cast is fucking stacked.

3103
02:12:37,359 --> 02:12:39,760
I'm excited to see why and how my Mo's back.

3104
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:41,640
I think I got somewhat of a general idea. I'm

3105
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:43,800
excited to see a pew in there. But man, out

3106
02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:45,760
of everybody, maybe other than Timmy who, you know, he's

3107
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:47,800
gonna be coming like a raging bowl lost at a oscar.

3108
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:51,079
But this is not gonna be a fucking surprising thing

3109
02:12:51,239 --> 02:12:54,520
to say. But who I'm most excited for fucking Baddison man,

3110
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:57,199
Robert Passon, look at that trailer that's.

3111
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:58,359
Speaker 1: Sees what's that haircut?

3112
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:00,680
Speaker 4: He's like, you can do it, you buzz and then

3113
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:02,560
you can do that, and then I forgive yourself the Timmy.

3114
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:05,079
You could easily do the Timmy bulb for Halloween. Man.

3115
02:13:05,239 --> 02:13:07,520
You know you get the black hair, so get that

3116
02:13:07,680 --> 02:13:08,319
stuff going on.

3117
02:13:08,359 --> 02:13:08,680
Speaker 2: All but.

3118
02:13:10,159 --> 02:13:11,119
Speaker 1: A darker branches.

3119
02:13:12,239 --> 02:13:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I never noticed. You never stood in the

3120
02:13:15,399 --> 02:13:18,800
right light, I guess. But yeah, I think he's gonna

3121
02:13:19,279 --> 02:13:21,880
and it's gonna be tough too, right because awesome Butler,

3122
02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:25,600
no slouch. Awesome Butler fucking destroyed it and doing too.

3123
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:28,720
He was incredible. So it's not like an easy and

3124
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:30,920
even stellone Scarscar is a bear, and so it's like

3125
02:13:31,239 --> 02:13:34,239
Passant has like a like a tough two tough acts

3126
02:13:34,279 --> 02:13:36,560
to follow. But I think he could do it. Obviously

3127
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:38,439
he did not get to the final four, but he

3128
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:40,800
made the Best Actor thirty two March Mans for a reason.

3129
02:13:40,840 --> 02:13:42,279
In my case, I think he's one of the best

3130
02:13:42,319 --> 02:13:44,399
out there. So I think he made it to the

3131
02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:48,239
I think he made it to the third. There's five rounds.

3132
02:13:48,239 --> 02:13:51,239
I think he made round three. I think he got

3133
02:13:51,359 --> 02:13:53,520
kicked out at I think he got beat by Pugh

3134
02:13:54,239 --> 02:13:57,199
funny enough, so but yeah, I can't say enough good things.

3135
02:13:57,359 --> 02:13:59,760
Very excited and uh yeah, I hope he moves up,

3136
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:01,800
don't'ber hope it's on the same day, hopefully change weeks,

3137
02:14:01,840 --> 02:14:06,079
but we will see. All right, We're gonna just do

3138
02:14:08,199 --> 02:14:10,800
I'm just gonna reveal the thing, and then I don't

3139
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:13,920
know if Dared Devil's gonna happen, because you know quickly,

3140
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:15,399
because there's gonna be all the time we do news.

3141
02:14:15,439 --> 02:14:16,920
We're not gonna get a long while like we do usually,

3142
02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:18,720
because this cast went way longer than I expected for

3143
02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:21,800
just two people. Any quick predictions Dared Devil moments, people

3144
02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:24,239
are gonna die. You're looking forward to that starts next Tuesday,

3145
02:14:24,439 --> 02:14:26,119
and asked us, where are you feeling on Daredevil.

3146
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe.

3147
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:30,560
Speaker 4: Sorry, next Tuesday, Yeah, five days now.

3148
02:14:31,359 --> 02:14:33,560
Speaker 1: Uh well, that's a shock, even though I feel like

3149
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:35,399
you just told me this like less than a week ago,

3150
02:14:35,439 --> 02:14:36,760
and I said the exact same thing. I'm like, I

3151
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:39,520
can't believe it's coming so fast Tuesday.

3152
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:43,680
Speaker 4: I am excited tonight. What can't be.

3153
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for it. I feel like i'm I'm

3154
02:14:48,479 --> 02:14:50,159
just peeking on this universe. Even though I'm not like

3155
02:14:50,239 --> 02:14:52,479
rewatching dared Devil. I feel like Punishers kind of an

3156
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:56,600
adjacent you know, like some crossover characters. Turk was in

3157
02:14:56,680 --> 02:14:57,439
the season.

3158
02:14:57,319 --> 02:15:01,159
Speaker 4: Of Characters Worn Again.

3159
02:15:01,239 --> 02:15:03,479
Speaker 1: You know that'd be cool, that'd be cool for sure.

3160
02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:10,560
I mean, I don't think Fisk is gonna be the

3161
02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:19,039
mayor anyway. That'll be my starting prediction, So.

3162
02:15:19,119 --> 02:15:21,119
Speaker 4: I guess with what I can expand upon that. Do

3163
02:15:21,199 --> 02:15:24,560
you think he dies jail Lee's country?

3164
02:15:24,600 --> 02:15:26,000
Speaker 1: What do you think I think he's doing stuff. I

3165
02:15:26,079 --> 02:15:27,199
think he's like preoccupied.

3166
02:15:27,199 --> 02:15:27,439
Speaker 2: I don't.

3167
02:15:27,439 --> 02:15:30,119
Speaker 1: I don't think like even if he like lost his mayorship,

3168
02:15:30,119 --> 02:15:32,439
I don't think he's like down and out and like defeated, like,

3169
02:15:32,560 --> 02:15:34,079
oh man, how I am ever going to get back

3170
02:15:34,119 --> 02:15:36,800
on my toes again? Like it's like a move like

3171
02:15:36,920 --> 02:15:38,920
he's not the mayor because he's got he's got to

3172
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:41,920
do kind of other things or maybe whatever. Like like

3173
02:15:42,039 --> 02:15:44,800
I I I think he kind of has his finger

3174
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:47,800
on the pulse anyways with the managing of I mean,

3175
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:49,960
he always does. He's the kingpin, right, Like, even even

3176
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:51,960
if he's not the mayor, he's still like pulling the strings.

3177
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:54,239
It seems for the majority of the city.

3178
02:15:54,479 --> 02:15:57,119
Speaker 4: But you had problems before, you know, sometimes you think

3179
02:15:57,119 --> 02:15:58,000
his plans are too big.

3180
02:15:59,159 --> 02:16:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, at least like the way that it's executed.

3181
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:04,119
I've had some issues with it, but I mean, I

3182
02:16:04,199 --> 02:16:08,039
still love the Vincent Dunafrio or however're saying his name

3183
02:16:08,079 --> 02:16:15,239
these days. So yeah, I'm so excited to just see

3184
02:16:15,479 --> 02:16:20,720
kind of what he's unraveling. Oh my god, Vanessa, there

3185
02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:21,359
you go. That's her.

3186
02:16:21,439 --> 02:16:25,039
Speaker 4: Na she get any more hands from different guys in

3187
02:16:25,079 --> 02:16:25,840
the season.

3188
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't, I know, I don't think they'll find a

3189
02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:32,760
new Adam for her, but yeah, I'm just curious to

3190
02:16:32,799 --> 02:16:34,120
see what's going on with those two.

3191
02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Fisk will. I guess it's tied together.

3192
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:41,399
There is a story arc. I can't remember what the

3193
02:16:41,559 --> 02:16:43,520
technical name of it, but it's one of the best

3194
02:16:43,559 --> 02:16:47,040
story arcs ever. I'm really hoping that Matt Murdock ends

3195
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:49,760
up in prison at the end of season because I

3196
02:16:49,799 --> 02:16:54,000
think there's so much juice for to imagine you, as

3197
02:16:54,079 --> 02:16:56,200
Daredevil getting exposed and then you go to prison with

3198
02:16:56,319 --> 02:16:59,120
all those people he helped fucking put away, and what

3199
02:16:59,200 --> 02:17:00,879
I would say those I would love him and fists

3200
02:17:00,920 --> 02:17:02,600
to be in there together. I don't know how you

3201
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:06,760
get there because in that storyline, fisk is not in

3202
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:08,479
there with them as far as I can remember, so

3203
02:17:08,600 --> 02:17:10,159
that's not in the comic books. I'm just thinking of

3204
02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:11,719
way how you can get rid of f b Mayor.

3205
02:17:12,079 --> 02:17:14,000
Don't think he should ever kill fisk Off. He should

3206
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:17,239
either be in a coma away or in prison. Think

3207
02:17:17,239 --> 02:17:18,920
you should always seem there as a bad thing until

3208
02:17:18,959 --> 02:17:21,000
they ever go. Like if they were to say, hey,

3209
02:17:21,079 --> 02:17:23,520
Secret Wars is the full reset and we aren't doing

3210
02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:26,000
anything more with Fit like this version of fisical then

3211
02:17:26,360 --> 02:17:27,920
and Matt than sure you can kill him off, but

3212
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:29,719
right now, I think you always got to keep him

3213
02:17:29,719 --> 02:17:32,440
around because he's a great character. That's why I'd love

3214
02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:35,920
is for them both to end up in prison, and

3215
02:17:36,319 --> 02:17:38,239
especially Matt. I would love Matt to end up in prison.

3216
02:17:38,319 --> 02:17:40,840
And there's other heroes coming back. You have Jessica Jones.

3217
02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:42,760
I feel like we're gonna see other Netflix characters. I'd

3218
02:17:42,799 --> 02:17:45,559
love to see Turk, but I could see maybe get

3219
02:17:45,639 --> 02:17:46,120
Luke Cage.

3220
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:46,440
Speaker 2: Maybe.

3221
02:17:46,520 --> 02:17:48,360
Speaker 4: I think Luke Cage is more likely because you've got

3222
02:17:48,399 --> 02:17:50,920
Jessica Jones in there. But I'm very excited to see

3223
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:53,520
Christian Richard and Jessica Jones back. I love that first season,

3224
02:17:53,600 --> 02:17:56,879
but that shows very rocky, but she's never rocky. She's

3225
02:17:56,920 --> 02:17:58,520
one of the best castings they did in that era,

3226
02:17:58,760 --> 02:18:01,360
and I guess say, like probably the second best next

3227
02:18:01,399 --> 02:18:04,879
to or it's sounding bad, it's probably fourth best now

3228
02:18:05,079 --> 02:18:09,360
because I feel like it's like Bernthall, Donofrio Cox then her.

3229
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:11,559
But still she's in the mount Rushmore. That's what I'll say,

3230
02:18:11,639 --> 02:18:13,959
right and I'll still say she's want the best moral castings.

3231
02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:16,040
So I'm interesting what they do with her and if

3232
02:18:16,040 --> 02:18:18,559
they spin on her off do something. But that's what

3233
02:18:18,639 --> 02:18:21,239
I would like Matt. I'd like him to uh to

3234
02:18:21,319 --> 02:18:23,799
end up in prison and maybe doing something a little

3235
02:18:23,840 --> 02:18:26,319
bit different. I'm not looking too forward to him and

3236
02:18:26,479 --> 02:18:29,520
Karen because I'm not Karen and Matt TV show shipper.

3237
02:18:29,600 --> 02:18:33,159
I'm a Punisher and Karen TV show shipper. But you know,

3238
02:18:33,239 --> 02:18:36,360
we'll see what happens. Do you think because people speculate

3239
02:18:36,479 --> 02:18:38,680
this is foggy he's back in the season right now

3240
02:18:38,799 --> 02:18:41,040
just flashbacks. Do you think he stays dead or is

3241
02:18:41,079 --> 02:18:44,840
there a is there a way back for him? U?

3242
02:18:45,559 --> 02:18:47,559
Speaker 1: Sorry, they showed him in the street. I don't remember.

3243
02:18:47,639 --> 02:18:50,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's they've prefer those back for flashbacks. But some

3244
02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:53,000
people go like, oh, are they just because there's one

3245
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:56,719
story in the com books where they did fake Foggy's death,

3246
02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:58,639
So because remember we talked about in the reviews that

3247
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,440
can't Yeah, so do you think they'll go with that route?

3248
02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:02,559
Do you think they're gonna keep him dead?

3249
02:19:07,639 --> 02:19:11,760
Speaker 1: I could see both avenues. I personally hope they keep

3250
02:19:11,799 --> 02:19:14,719
them dead, and I am gonna lean that way with

3251
02:19:14,840 --> 02:19:18,840
my prediction as well. I think flashbacks is totally fine,

3252
02:19:19,159 --> 02:19:20,799
especially when Matt's down and out and you can have

3253
02:19:20,879 --> 02:19:23,719
like a little inner dialogue with Foggy. But yeah, I

3254
02:19:24,440 --> 02:19:26,239
just bring him back. It just seems like a lazy

3255
02:19:26,319 --> 02:19:29,319
way to just to just yeah, well we kind of

3256
02:19:29,360 --> 02:19:31,440
reckon our idea. We don't actually want to kill him off,

3257
02:19:31,479 --> 02:19:32,799
so we're just gonna bring him back. And even if

3258
02:19:32,799 --> 02:19:35,280
there was a comic book version of that, I just

3259
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:37,760
don't think it fits for how they executed the whole

3260
02:19:38,239 --> 02:19:41,360
Foggy death from the from the previous season.

3261
02:19:42,120 --> 02:19:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's for me, it's a double where I don't

3262
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:46,760
I'm not the biggest fan of that Foggy character. When fine,

3263
02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:48,319
if he dies and we got a lot of characters

3264
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:50,159
going on, right, If they're gonna bring back I think

3265
02:19:50,159 --> 02:19:52,120
they bring they're bringing back when the cops. I can't

3266
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:55,040
remember his name from the Daredevil show, so the one

3267
02:19:55,079 --> 02:19:57,840
that always helped, like ban Foggy, so he's back. You

3268
02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:01,319
got Cherry, You're gonna have Jessica Jones. So I'm cope

3269
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:03,280
other than flashbacks, even if they want to make him

3270
02:20:03,319 --> 02:20:06,719
like the hairy to his dexter, like, sure, if you

3271
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:09,399
have Foggy Nelson, give him advice that way. Sure, I

3272
02:20:09,399 --> 02:20:10,799
don't want too much of it, but I don't really

3273
02:20:10,879 --> 02:20:13,879
want that flashback. Okay, let's do that, and then where

3274
02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:15,920
it is he can reminists about him. What about your

3275
02:20:15,959 --> 02:20:19,879
boy here? You know, oh Kirk's I see you again.

3276
02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:23,639
I gotta have warn you because I and I fucking

3277
02:20:23,719 --> 02:20:26,559
call this in the finale and I call this another

3278
02:20:26,680 --> 02:20:28,920
time too. And the show winner's even talked about it

3279
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:32,120
that he's on like he's trying to do a redemption

3280
02:20:32,319 --> 02:20:35,959
arc like bulls Eye is like to himself, like they're saying,

3281
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:39,200
it's very like Rocky, But I said the way when

3282
02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:41,520
he went back to fucking Nelson Murdoch and he just

3283
02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:44,159
like was all moping, like, oh my god, they're trying

3284
02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:46,920
to make this guy like have a babyface term and

3285
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:49,600
like I don't. I actually don't know how I feel

3286
02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:52,479
about that. I don't mind him and Daredevil working together

3287
02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:55,200
because they have to. I don't know if I ever

3288
02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:57,879
really want him like with the good guys. I don't

3289
02:20:57,879 --> 02:20:59,719
think he can even buddy up with them because like

3290
02:20:59,799 --> 02:21:01,399
he killed Foggy, right, So I don't want to everyone

3291
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:05,719
to see that, But I just I would rather him

3292
02:21:05,799 --> 02:21:07,760
just be the chast I love Bullseye. I'm a big

3293
02:21:07,799 --> 02:21:09,760
bull Eye defender. I think this is a great adaptation

3294
02:21:09,879 --> 02:21:12,200
of him. I think Wilson Bethel does an amazing job,

3295
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:15,319
something like a hater like Kirkland. But I don't want

3296
02:21:15,399 --> 02:21:18,079
a moment where it's like I forgive you bulls, Like

3297
02:21:18,479 --> 02:21:20,840
I don't ever want that. And there's definitely a scene

3298
02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:22,920
one of those trailers where he's like picking Bullseye up

3299
02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:25,239
like they like link arms and he pulls them up.

3300
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:28,559
So I I don't know. I hope, I hope that's

3301
02:21:28,600 --> 02:21:31,920
handled well. But I am very excited to see Bullseye again.

3302
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:35,159
I just that's gonna be an interesting plot thread to

3303
02:21:35,319 --> 02:21:38,760
pull on. So how you feel about your favorite spoon thrower.

3304
02:21:42,399 --> 02:21:45,879
Speaker 1: Man, it's so funny, especially you know, I'm fresh off

3305
02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:50,840
season two Punish here this character and Billy Russo are

3306
02:21:50,959 --> 02:21:52,760
like very similar of a tear for me.

3307
02:21:52,879 --> 02:21:54,399
Speaker 4: You know, how do you feel about Jigs on seas

3308
02:21:56,319 --> 02:22:00,360
tune in episode he fucking sucks? He sucks the big

3309
02:22:00,479 --> 02:22:05,000
one man does he does? Remember? Yeah, I'll be like, yeah,

3310
02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:06,280
I think when this is over, I'm gonna put this

3311
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:07,680
show over. Dared, I'm like, yeah, I just wait for

3312
02:22:07,760 --> 02:22:09,959
season two, Like like, I know you're gonna get to it.

3313
02:22:10,280 --> 02:22:11,920
But the fact that they do this whole build up

3314
02:22:12,159 --> 02:22:13,799
and then what they do Frank just walks up to

3315
02:22:13,879 --> 02:22:16,680
when he's down, out shoots him and then walks away. No, no,

3316
02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:20,440
no confrontation, no, nothing like Jigsaw some of the biggest one.

3317
02:22:20,479 --> 02:22:21,879
But I'm saying, have you we didn't talk this the

3318
02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:25,520
retro you were seen Parish or war Zone never. Okay,

3319
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:29,000
Jigsaw is the bad guy, so it'll be fun for

3320
02:22:29,079 --> 02:22:29,639
you to compare.

3321
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:32,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I just is it still like Billy Russo?

3322
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:37,200
Speaker 4: Like no, the Netflix version completely different origins. He's just

3323
02:22:37,319 --> 02:22:39,680
like a bobster, and that they gave him this hole

3324
02:22:39,760 --> 02:22:41,319
like he's the friend of Frank and the family and

3325
02:22:41,360 --> 02:22:43,360
all that stuff. It sucks because I like that guy

3326
02:22:43,360 --> 02:22:45,040
who plays him in the Netflix show, But that season

3327
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:47,559
two stuff is just like and we're there he and

3328
02:22:47,639 --> 02:22:49,959
he's a he's saying an anachistic right, He's all into

3329
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:53,399
the sex with like touching AWE's and everything like that

3330
02:22:53,559 --> 02:22:59,479
and bruises. It's like, we got thirteen episodes, what do

3331
02:22:59,559 --> 02:23:00,639
we do with only this year?

3332
02:23:04,920 --> 02:23:06,520
Speaker 1: Anyways? Why was I talking to a bility?

3333
02:23:06,600 --> 02:23:06,719
Speaker 2: Oh?

3334
02:23:06,799 --> 02:23:08,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, because fucking bullseye.

3335
02:23:11,239 --> 02:23:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3336
02:23:11,479 --> 02:23:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't love the character. I don't I definitely don't

3337
02:23:14,239 --> 02:23:15,760
love If we're going to try and do some sort

3338
02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:18,600
of redemption thing, I I hope he's just used as

3339
02:23:18,680 --> 02:23:20,959
a tool to like get things out of out of that,

3340
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:25,040
whether it's emotion or just just I don't know, just

3341
02:23:25,159 --> 02:23:27,840
just make Matt question his own religion. I mean, he's

3342
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:29,319
had to do that a couple of times throughout the show,

3343
02:23:29,360 --> 02:23:31,000
So it might just be rehashing what we've kind of

3344
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:35,200
already seen before. I don't want to just say that

3345
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:38,920
I'll never not hate this guy, but like it's just

3346
02:23:39,239 --> 02:23:41,000
it's just a goofy character to me, and.

3347
02:23:41,479 --> 02:23:43,479
Speaker 4: The redemption will be for you this year, maybe he'll

3348
02:23:43,479 --> 02:23:43,959
be on band.

3349
02:23:44,159 --> 02:23:46,040
Speaker 1: It could be. I obviously won't knock it till I

3350
02:23:46,360 --> 02:23:51,159
till I try it. Yeah, but yeah, well we'll see.

3351
02:23:51,159 --> 02:23:54,520
Hopefully it's it's used to a lesser degree for my

3352
02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:55,000
own sake.

3353
02:23:55,399 --> 02:23:58,959
Speaker 4: And I said that I'm hoping matt ends in prison

3354
02:23:59,079 --> 02:24:00,799
something like that. Where do you cause they're already filming

3355
02:24:00,879 --> 02:24:02,920
season three in March where you answered for Fisk, Where

3356
02:24:02,920 --> 02:24:07,159
do you think matt ends up just be the bad Yeah?

3357
02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:09,280
Do you think they just be the bad guys? And okay,

3358
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:12,159
on to season three, new new team, or you think

3359
02:24:12,200 --> 02:24:13,879
it is a good even then do you think it's

3360
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:16,280
like a solid ending to these stories or do you

3361
02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:17,719
think it's a cliffhanger of some sort.

3362
02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:21,559
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely leading somewhere. I don't think it'll

3363
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:24,159
be like a closing to the book like Super just yeah,

3364
02:24:24,280 --> 02:24:28,680
his story's done. Yeah, I don't think he's gonna be

3365
02:24:29,639 --> 02:24:31,920
really like focusing on the law stuff, like it'll be

3366
02:24:32,360 --> 02:24:37,440
more to the Daredevil side. Don't really have like a

3367
02:24:37,559 --> 02:24:40,680
thought of like what that would be setting up, like

3368
02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:42,559
if he's just focusing more on the Daredevil stuff. But

3369
02:24:42,639 --> 02:24:44,280
that's I don't know. It just seems like we've done

3370
02:24:44,280 --> 02:24:48,000
a lot of the lawyer things, and I don't know,

3371
02:24:48,239 --> 02:24:51,000
it's it's not a not a weighted, weighted guess, but

3372
02:24:51,319 --> 02:24:52,040
that's my prediction.

3373
02:24:53,360 --> 02:24:55,000
Speaker 4: Do you think him and Karen are still together by

3374
02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:55,680
the end of season?

3375
02:24:57,559 --> 02:24:59,440
Speaker 1: Honestly, I kind of forgot that was the thing until

3376
02:24:59,440 --> 02:25:05,120
you reminded me. Yeah, we brought this up. Yeah I could.

3377
02:25:05,479 --> 02:25:07,639
I don't think Karen's gonna die or anything like that,

3378
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:11,200
so it just seems like the easy, easy thing to do.

3379
02:25:12,239 --> 02:25:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think they're like together together now,

3380
02:25:16,959 --> 02:25:19,200
Like why else would you put like if the season's starting,

3381
02:25:19,239 --> 02:25:21,600
they're dancing and they're kissing, when you kind of have

3382
02:25:21,760 --> 02:25:23,559
this season end with them and the the next season.

3383
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:25,840
So it's like I feel like, like what, Like, I

3384
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:27,600
guess the only thing is and that's why I guess

3385
02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:29,719
I gotta ask you. The only thing I think you

3386
02:25:29,799 --> 02:25:32,159
could set up is the reason they're together, so we

3387
02:25:32,239 --> 02:25:35,239
can fucking kill her. I think with Foggy just dying,

3388
02:25:35,559 --> 02:25:37,559
I don't think you do that. I think you could

3389
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:40,719
have her death in the future, but it won't feel

3390
02:25:40,799 --> 02:25:45,079
maybe redundant, but it just like almost two samesies, you know,

3391
02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:46,840
like so much. And I also feel like for the

3392
02:25:46,879 --> 02:25:48,520
people that did really like Foggy, I think you and

3393
02:25:48,600 --> 02:25:50,440
me are kind of like all right on Foggy, But

3394
02:25:50,440 --> 02:25:52,600
the people that love Foggy, I think those same people

3395
02:25:52,639 --> 02:25:54,920
love Karen, and I feel like those og Netflix sans

3396
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:57,879
would feel really disenfranchised with the show. Is if like,

3397
02:25:58,040 --> 02:26:00,239
you killed Foggy and then the next season killed and

3398
02:26:00,280 --> 02:26:02,440
I think it would be I think they'd just be

3399
02:26:02,479 --> 02:26:04,200
a group like I would in person. And I don't

3400
02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:05,639
get wrong, I like Caring. I don't think you should

3401
02:26:05,719 --> 02:26:08,280
kill her off. I'm interested in the dynamic. And sure

3402
02:26:08,360 --> 02:26:11,520
this is they've never really fully like had to go

3403
02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:13,600
out right because when they dated in season two, Electric

3404
02:26:13,639 --> 02:26:15,239
came to town and that was all fucked up. So

3405
02:26:15,360 --> 02:26:17,319
like that was they had like two episodes where were

3406
02:26:17,399 --> 02:26:19,680
Caring and Matt were happy and then all went to shit, right,

3407
02:26:19,719 --> 02:26:21,239
And even then they're not gonna be happy. They're on

3408
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:23,440
the run. I don't think I think I've said this

3409
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:25,879
many times. I still love all this black suit dared

3410
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:28,959
al stuff I'm seeing looks great, But yeah, I think

3411
02:26:29,399 --> 02:26:32,479
I think that's why I think my drama is if

3412
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:35,840
it's Matt somewhere else or in prison, that's where it's like, oh,

3413
02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:38,360
they're happy together, but they're split apart, like something like that.

3414
02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:40,559
That's where I think it could go where I just

3415
02:26:40,600 --> 02:26:42,280
don't think this season. I don't see it ending with

3416
02:26:42,360 --> 02:26:44,559
like Fiscus behind bars and now we're buying a house

3417
02:26:44,600 --> 02:26:46,719
and and Matt I'm pregnant. Like I just don't think

3418
02:26:46,719 --> 02:26:48,440
that's a daredvel way. I think stories canna end, but

3419
02:26:48,520 --> 02:26:51,680
there's always like, uh, Matt Sills this fucking shit to

3420
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:54,239
deal with, you know, like there's never he can never

3421
02:26:54,360 --> 02:26:56,760
get that happy ending, especially if they're already they plan

3422
02:26:56,799 --> 02:26:58,399
to shoot a season three. I think they said in May.

3423
02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:00,680
I'm not saying it's a cliff I just think they

3424
02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:03,040
know that, Okay, we kind of have an idea of

3425
02:27:03,079 --> 02:27:05,079
where we might want to go with some of these characters.

3426
02:27:05,200 --> 02:27:08,639
So yeah, we'll see. I'm I'm pretty excited. Some of

3427
02:27:08,639 --> 02:27:10,479
the early reactions have got me a bit more excited,

3428
02:27:10,479 --> 02:27:12,040
but I want to wait till actual views come out.

3429
02:27:12,040 --> 02:27:13,600
They come out the day of which I didn't love,

3430
02:27:14,079 --> 02:27:16,920
but I'm hoping that the stuff that I did love

3431
02:27:17,079 --> 02:27:19,920
last year or the last season is the majority of

3432
02:27:19,959 --> 02:27:21,799
the season, because obviously we talked about a million times

3433
02:27:21,799 --> 02:27:23,840
that season was very messy, and for me, there was

3434
02:27:23,840 --> 02:27:25,680
a couple episodes that were close to fail, whether it

3435
02:27:25,799 --> 02:27:28,440
was just the lack of excitement with that episode at

3436
02:27:28,559 --> 02:27:31,280
execution and especially some of those characters. I'll still never

3437
02:27:31,360 --> 02:27:34,040
forgive Matt Murder for exposing fucking white tiger in a

3438
02:27:34,079 --> 02:27:37,719
courtroom to everybody, Like, what a fucking fis of shit? Man, Like,

3439
02:27:37,959 --> 02:27:39,760
there's stuff that did happen in that show where it's

3440
02:27:39,799 --> 02:27:43,399
like that really hurt some things going forward. But I

3441
02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:47,559
hope that it is uh one of the better seasons

3442
02:27:47,639 --> 02:27:50,120
and uh yeah, I hope they went from their mistakes.

3443
02:27:50,200 --> 02:27:53,680
So all right, finally, Kirkland, let's do this. I'm sorry

3444
02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:56,239
that took a longer, but you know, blamespier Man, you know,

3445
02:27:56,840 --> 02:27:58,479
thank god this was on a four man panel. We've

3446
02:27:58,479 --> 02:28:01,399
being only an eight hour cast right now. Okay, I'm

3447
02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:03,520
gonna do this quickly because I didn't want to, but

3448
02:28:03,559 --> 02:28:05,440
I'm gonna have to. I've only had to do this once,

3449
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:08,159
Kirkland to break ties in both the finals. I have

3450
02:28:08,280 --> 02:28:12,319
ties Timothy sha versus Killian Murphy. Fifty to fifty are

3451
02:28:12,399 --> 02:28:16,079
the votes from the patrons for the Best Actor. This

3452
02:28:16,319 --> 02:28:18,479
is super tough for me, I'm going to get your

3453
02:28:18,479 --> 02:28:20,479
opinion first. Your vote doesn't matter. I only do the

3454
02:28:20,520 --> 02:28:22,360
tie breakers, so your vote doesn't matter. But if you

3455
02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:24,920
were I no, no, no, no. The rule is I

3456
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:26,920
make the tie because I don't vote on these at all.

3457
02:28:27,000 --> 02:28:28,879
I only do tie breakers. So that was my rule

3458
02:28:28,920 --> 02:28:31,719
of patrons. If you guys can't settle it, Tras comes in,

3459
02:28:32,040 --> 02:28:35,000
what would you vote for though, Killian Timothy best actor

3460
02:28:35,040 --> 02:28:36,280
the last ten years current day?

3461
02:28:36,879 --> 02:28:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, going to the finals, that's a that's a good comparison.

3462
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:47,360
That's a good finals for sure. Or it's not the finals,

3463
02:28:47,360 --> 02:28:47,760
it's going.

3464
02:28:47,680 --> 02:28:49,719
Speaker 4: In semi finals. Yeah, the winner was the finals.

3465
02:28:51,079 --> 02:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one of them has an Oscar right

3466
02:28:54,879 --> 02:28:56,040
versus when not.

3467
02:28:56,120 --> 02:28:57,639
Speaker 4: Having that action. That's true.

3468
02:28:57,920 --> 02:29:00,479
Speaker 1: That's true, Sorry, Timmy. I mean I love both these

3469
02:29:00,680 --> 02:29:04,719
these gentlemen. They've They've both done some amazing piece of

3470
02:29:04,799 --> 02:29:11,319
work characters that I absolutely love. I feel like there's

3471
02:29:11,399 --> 02:29:14,959
no right answer, Like like I'm like about I felt

3472
02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:16,159
like I was about to give you an answer and

3473
02:29:16,239 --> 02:29:17,879
then I had to like stop myself as I'm like,

3474
02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:20,040
well what about what about this guy and his performances?

3475
02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:28,719
Cut like Killian, as Oppenheimer recently rewatched, I appreciate that

3476
02:29:28,799 --> 02:29:30,520
movie so much more on a second viewing, and he

3477
02:29:30,639 --> 02:29:34,280
is just he's just perfect. Mm hm, he's.

3478
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3479
02:29:37,559 --> 02:29:39,319
Speaker 1: But like Peaky Blinders is in there, that's within the

3480
02:29:39,440 --> 02:29:41,000
last time, and there's Thomas.

3481
02:29:42,920 --> 02:29:43,399
Speaker 4: Dunkirk.

3482
02:29:44,600 --> 02:29:51,799
Speaker 1: Dunkirk, I don't really remember that much in there. Man, Honestly,

3483
02:29:51,840 --> 02:29:55,239
I'm gonna give it to Timmy here. I yeah, it's

3484
02:29:55,479 --> 02:29:57,399
it's crazy. I know it's not my vote, so it

3485
02:29:57,440 --> 02:30:01,159
doesn't matter at all. You're gonna be so you're going

3486
02:30:01,239 --> 02:30:03,079
Killian then by your reaction, is that what you're doing?

3487
02:30:03,239 --> 02:30:06,280
Speaker 4: Uh No, I'm going Timothy as well. I would. Here's

3488
02:30:06,360 --> 02:30:06,680
the thing.

3489
02:30:06,840 --> 02:30:09,959
Speaker 1: I think what Timothy purely for the reason of the

3490
02:30:10,079 --> 02:30:13,879
dune to speech when you're just yelling at everyone, because

3491
02:30:13,879 --> 02:30:16,440
I I love rewatching that scene. It gets me juiced up.

3492
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:18,239
But anyway, sorry, give you a reason.

3493
02:30:18,639 --> 02:30:20,399
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that, And I think it's the

3494
02:30:20,440 --> 02:30:22,719
same thing. I've made this comparison before too. It's like,

3495
02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:24,760
if you gave the people the same script, who might

3496
02:30:24,799 --> 02:30:26,760
you get the better performance out of? And I still

3497
02:30:26,799 --> 02:30:29,799
think I might lean Killian, but I've had a big

3498
02:30:29,920 --> 02:30:33,360
vote going forward. Is I think just Timothy has that variety,

3499
02:30:33,639 --> 02:30:36,959
you know, where like there's some big things for Killian Murphy,

3500
02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:40,239
but I definitely feel like he's like on the smaller

3501
02:30:40,319 --> 02:30:43,360
chier for the past ten years. Even Peggy Blinders, that's tough.

3502
02:30:43,399 --> 02:30:45,280
Piggy Blinder is great, But like you look at Timothy

3503
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:47,639
in the past ten years. I gotta listen and listen

3504
02:30:47,639 --> 02:30:51,639
to the varieties. Right, you got where is it here?

3505
02:30:51,680 --> 02:30:53,959
You got call Me by your Name, you got Lady Bird,

3506
02:30:54,079 --> 02:30:56,159
you got Hostiles, you got the King, you got little Women,

3507
02:30:56,479 --> 02:30:58,399
you got Dune part one, you got bones and all

3508
02:30:58,440 --> 02:31:01,440
you know, don't look up. You got Long Duning Part two,

3509
02:31:01,639 --> 02:31:04,639
a complete un known Mario Supreme. I think that's just

3510
02:31:04,680 --> 02:31:07,239
why I lean that way, because he just has a

3511
02:31:07,319 --> 02:31:09,879
bit more variety, where Like, I've not seen Killing play

3512
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:12,600
like a very like fun, whimsical character like Wonka, Right,

3513
02:31:12,920 --> 02:31:15,159
And I'm not saying like that's better than what he's

3514
02:31:15,200 --> 02:31:17,799
doing in Pee Blinders or what he's doing in Uh

3515
02:31:18,559 --> 02:31:20,639
with the fuck in Oppenheimer. I think Wonka's is like

3516
02:31:20,680 --> 02:31:23,159
a fine movie. But like Timmy's really good at that, right,

3517
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,079
and he's good at all the other stuff. So I'm

3518
02:31:25,120 --> 02:31:30,239
gonna give it a Timmy just for the variety. Again,

3519
02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:33,040
I still think Amastone should have beat Timmy, so I'm

3520
02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:35,959
pretty mad about that. But a last didn't happen. I

3521
02:31:36,040 --> 02:31:39,000
still have made Amastone go this route as well to win.

3522
02:31:39,120 --> 02:31:40,799
But no Timmy. I'm put him to the finals dining

3523
02:31:40,799 --> 02:31:42,639
with the Oscar, but you know, maybe he'll in the

3524
02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:46,799
March Madness pool other side fifty both of them tied.

3525
02:31:46,840 --> 02:31:49,920
Florence Pugh versus Leo Kirklin.

3526
02:31:50,479 --> 02:31:56,559
Speaker 1: Florence Pew versus Leo DiCaprio just in the last ten years, right.

3527
02:31:56,680 --> 02:32:01,479
Speaker 4: Last and years twenty fifteen to now. And you're gonna

3528
02:32:01,479 --> 02:32:03,200
say that because you're gonna I know what you're thinking.

3529
02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:04,799
He's trying to think, Oh, well, that's why one pick

3530
02:32:04,879 --> 02:32:07,959
Leo last ten years. But if you read Leo's last

3531
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:11,479
ten years, I argue on, trust that's his best time

3532
02:32:11,479 --> 02:32:12,000
in his career.

3533
02:32:13,159 --> 02:32:15,200
Speaker 1: Give me some highlights. I don't want to google this.

3534
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:17,200
Speaker 4: I can't. It's it's just The Revenant.

3535
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:19,559
Speaker 1: No, hang on, of course, just The Revenant. I didn't

3536
02:32:19,600 --> 02:32:20,319
like that movie at all.

3537
02:32:21,440 --> 02:32:24,600
Speaker 4: When I'm an Oscar, though, it's back in theaters too.

3538
02:32:24,600 --> 02:32:26,760
If you want to give it another go nope for

3539
02:32:26,840 --> 02:32:31,399
its ten year anniversary this week. Okay, hang on last

3540
02:32:31,639 --> 02:32:34,879
ten years. Okay, oh shit, don't do this to me.

3541
02:32:34,920 --> 02:32:37,239
Why would it lest his work as a producer? First,

3542
02:32:37,360 --> 02:32:39,840
fuck off? One to be I'm looking for acting work.

3543
02:32:39,879 --> 02:32:41,799
Speaker 1: Okay, it sucks sometimes it does.

3544
02:32:41,920 --> 02:32:44,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, last year, so you didn't like that. But

3545
02:32:44,319 --> 02:32:46,600
he was in the Revenant, Okay, once upon a Time

3546
02:32:46,639 --> 02:32:50,399
in Hollywood, don't look up Killers the flower Moon. One

3547
02:32:50,479 --> 02:32:55,879
battle after another. So he's only done one, two, three, four,

3548
02:32:56,079 --> 02:32:58,559
five things. But those five things are incredible.

3549
02:32:59,399 --> 02:33:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Pew has everything from like Hereditary.

3550
02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:07,719
Speaker 4: To well, she was never in Hereditary, so she doesn't

3551
02:33:07,719 --> 02:33:07,879
have that.

3552
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:11,479
Speaker 1: What do I think of midsmar Yeah, it's late, they make.

3553
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:16,079
Speaker 4: Outlacking family stuff or fight of family, Mids More Little Women,

3554
02:33:16,879 --> 02:33:18,920
Black Widow, the Wonder, don't worry.

3555
02:33:19,440 --> 02:33:23,120
Speaker 1: So fantastic. But Leo has the better projects, so I

3556
02:33:23,159 --> 02:33:26,959
think I'm gonna have to lean to him. But I'm

3557
02:33:26,959 --> 02:33:31,319
curious what you're leaning Pew. Boys for life, But like,

3558
02:33:31,959 --> 02:33:34,920
gotta be honest with myself here, come on, how good

3559
02:33:35,000 --> 02:33:41,159
is Leo? Once more time? Oba Oba oba oba fuck

3560
02:33:41,239 --> 02:33:43,360
you now, man?

3561
02:33:43,840 --> 02:33:45,920
Speaker 4: But could she do could she not do that role?

3562
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:47,159
You don't think she could do that role?

3563
02:33:49,040 --> 02:33:51,479
Speaker 1: It would be a very different type of character I think,

3564
02:33:51,600 --> 02:33:54,120
but she could do a version of it.

3565
02:33:55,719 --> 02:33:57,840
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's tough.

3566
02:33:57,920 --> 02:33:59,879
Speaker 1: You're leaning pew, you're leaning peugh because you think that

3567
02:34:00,079 --> 02:34:01,920
she could do the same in all these roles once

3568
02:34:01,959 --> 02:34:02,760
upon time in Hollywood.

3569
02:34:02,760 --> 02:34:06,040
Speaker 4: She could just feel like I lose so much on Hollywood.

3570
02:34:06,239 --> 02:34:09,559
She could definitely do Ricked all I think, where like

3571
02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:11,680
I don't could Leo do?

3572
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't think she could do Ricked. I don't think

3573
02:34:13,639 --> 02:34:15,200
she could do could Leo do mid Mar?

3574
02:34:16,600 --> 02:34:17,360
Speaker 4: I don't think he could.

3575
02:34:18,159 --> 02:34:19,719
Speaker 1: It's so hard because it's like.

3576
02:34:21,239 --> 02:34:23,799
Speaker 4: That scene where she's crying hyper vanilating. Is Leo doing that?

3577
02:34:25,280 --> 02:34:28,959
Speaker 1: M hm, it's it's it's it's a tough comparison though,

3578
02:34:28,959 --> 02:34:33,159
because she writes is he riding versus a male role?

3579
02:34:36,159 --> 02:34:36,719
Speaker 4: That scene?

3580
02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:47,440
Speaker 1: I just picture they're they're the scene an naked Leo

3581
02:34:47,719 --> 02:34:54,479
just ride Killian. I would pay to see that. I

3582
02:34:55,680 --> 02:34:57,600
I don't think it's an easy comparison at all. I

3583
02:34:57,639 --> 02:35:01,440
think they're very very different type of style that they

3584
02:35:01,520 --> 02:35:02,559
bring to a role.

3585
02:35:02,920 --> 02:35:04,799
Speaker 4: Like and even then you don't even like remnut so

3586
02:35:04,879 --> 02:35:07,239
Revenant that takes them down to four and then don't

3587
02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:11,200
look up is like, you know what I'm gonna. I

3588
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:14,520
think the reason I'm gonna because not just to lose credibility.

3589
02:35:14,559 --> 02:35:16,159
I think the reason why it's gonna be like the

3590
02:35:16,239 --> 02:35:18,280
Killing Thing, I am gonna give it to Pew because

3591
02:35:18,280 --> 02:35:20,520
I am a peop boy for life, but one battle

3592
02:35:20,520 --> 02:35:23,559
of another, don't look up Once upon Time Hollywood, and

3593
02:35:23,639 --> 02:35:26,360
even Killers of the Flower Moon. I'm losing it because

3594
02:35:26,360 --> 02:35:29,040
we're gonna late. He's lately been doing a lot like

3595
02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:33,600
the comedic bumbling idiot role, where Pew has again more

3596
02:35:33,760 --> 02:35:37,719
variety of like like Yolena Don't Worry Darling, which is

3597
02:35:37,760 --> 02:35:39,799
not a great movie, but still her in that movie

3598
02:35:40,319 --> 02:35:42,639
Midsomar ofp On I'm for the small Bitch, she's in

3599
02:35:42,840 --> 02:35:46,399
it where Leo. All those roles are in like a

3600
02:35:46,600 --> 02:35:50,719
very similar Venn diagram, like especially like one battle after

3601
02:35:50,719 --> 02:35:53,840
another once upon Time Hollywood. That's a similar type of care,

3602
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:58,959
not exactly, but the kind of in Overhead Idiot, very comedic. Right.

3603
02:35:59,159 --> 02:36:02,000
So as much as I'm all about life, man, life

3604
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:05,000
and again remnant once a time, I don't look because

3605
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:07,959
I mean one about another five projects, great projects, but

3606
02:36:08,799 --> 02:36:10,920
he cuts off there, So I think I think I'm

3607
02:36:10,920 --> 02:36:13,079
gonna go with Pew I'm going to go with the future.

3608
02:36:14,159 --> 02:36:16,600
I'm gonna make the finals Tinny shell May versus.

3609
02:36:16,399 --> 02:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Florence Peugh, that's a good finals.

3610
02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, even though I just feel like P's gonna eat

3611
02:36:21,559 --> 02:36:23,520
him up. I us don't reveal who, but I feel

3612
02:36:23,559 --> 02:36:25,559
like I feel like if I put Leo in there,

3613
02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:28,120
it's closer. So I would want to do that to

3614
02:36:28,159 --> 02:36:29,920
make the poll closer. But I'm not going to do

3615
02:36:30,040 --> 02:36:33,559
that for the sanctity myself. But I feel like Pew.

3616
02:36:34,319 --> 02:36:36,440
You can't argue that she can't give a great performance

3617
02:36:36,440 --> 02:36:37,399
to drop the dime, you.

3618
02:36:37,440 --> 02:36:43,159
Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, I mean it. It's such a tough splitting

3619
02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:44,079
of the hairs, right.

3620
02:36:44,079 --> 02:36:45,440
Speaker 4: She's amazing little woman, you know.

3621
02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:49,159
Speaker 1: With Timmy, she's yeah, a little ten year old.

3622
02:36:49,280 --> 02:36:50,319
Speaker 4: Play little ten year old foot?

3623
02:36:50,680 --> 02:36:51,360
Speaker 2: Can Leo do that?

3624
02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:55,760
Speaker 4: Mama Da? Could he do that?

3625
02:36:56,959 --> 02:36:57,079
Speaker 2: Now?

3626
02:36:57,159 --> 02:36:57,600
Speaker 4: He couldn't?

3627
02:36:57,600 --> 02:36:57,959
Speaker 1: He could?

3628
02:36:58,159 --> 02:36:58,479
Speaker 2: He could?

3629
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:02,200
Speaker 4: I don't. I think Leo would look at that script

3630
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:04,639
he put it down, He's slide back over.

3631
02:37:04,840 --> 02:37:07,079
Speaker 1: There's a universe where he just plays the Timothy Shallome

3632
02:37:07,239 --> 02:37:09,520
role in like the nineties, like young lad Yes.

3633
02:37:09,559 --> 02:37:10,840
Speaker 4: But in this route when they ask to play a

3634
02:37:10,840 --> 02:37:13,000
little kid, he takes a little Papa's little what are

3635
02:37:13,040 --> 02:37:16,959
those called. I'm fucking playing no ten year old, like

3636
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:19,479
the no fucking way Leo is playing a ten year

3637
02:37:19,479 --> 02:37:23,840
old kid. But Florence did that convincedly obviously not maybe

3638
02:37:23,840 --> 02:37:27,680
at any point, like at the same age as in

3639
02:37:27,760 --> 02:37:29,479
his twenties, is he playing ten year old kid? I

3640
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:29,760
don't know.

3641
02:37:30,280 --> 02:37:34,079
Speaker 1: It's just a movie called Little Men. You got Leo

3642
02:37:34,200 --> 02:37:38,239
in there, you got a fucking Viso del Toro. Who

3643
02:37:38,319 --> 02:37:40,120
else is in there? You gotta have those two for sure,

3644
02:37:40,479 --> 02:37:42,159
and then you'd have to have a female that would

3645
02:37:42,159 --> 02:37:44,479
be like the Timmy roll, right, you gotta get the

3646
02:37:44,959 --> 02:37:46,399
that could be Florence also.

3647
02:37:46,319 --> 02:37:47,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that could be playing so you gotta get the

3648
02:37:47,879 --> 02:37:50,879
adjacent So I don't think Benisio fits in Little Little Man,

3649
02:37:50,959 --> 02:37:52,799
and I think it's you know, it's still gonna be

3650
02:37:52,840 --> 02:37:55,280
all four white men, right like it's like him, it's

3651
02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:58,600
Brad Pitt. It's him and Brad Pitt for sure.

3652
02:38:02,040 --> 02:38:02,959
Speaker 1: It could be the older one.

3653
02:38:03,000 --> 02:38:04,840
Speaker 4: Clooney could be in there, and then fuck because the

3654
02:38:04,879 --> 02:38:06,719
Rebnick could put Tom Hardy in there and make him

3655
02:38:06,760 --> 02:38:08,799
do something, make him play the ten year old. He'll

3656
02:38:08,840 --> 02:38:12,399
fucking do it that, you know, That's what I mean.

3657
02:38:13,000 --> 02:38:13,479
Speaker 2: Oh, fuck.

3658
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the one that dies?

3659
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:23,840
Speaker 7: Spoilers for Little Men, Yeah, Chared Leto or some ship

3660
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:27,959
like that, like a familiar face that you know, Yeah,

3661
02:38:28,600 --> 02:38:29,639
you just get sickly.

3662
02:38:30,200 --> 02:38:32,520
Speaker 4: No, who No, I'd be like Matt Damon or something

3663
02:38:32,559 --> 02:38:34,719
like that. Get the get the Ocean's Boys back together

3664
02:38:35,760 --> 02:38:39,600
and make Matt Damon pass away. Oh well, I'm trying

3665
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:41,319
to think there's anybody else older that world.

3666
02:38:41,559 --> 02:38:45,360
Speaker 1: We're just pitching The Little Men, you know, two hours

3667
02:38:45,360 --> 02:38:46,680
and forty minutes into our weekly.

3668
02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:49,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, and I don't know why we did.

3669
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We also didn't pitch an age appropriate like Florence Peter

3670
02:38:52,680 --> 02:38:54,120
Leo is not an age appropriate.

3671
02:38:55,479 --> 02:38:57,440
Speaker 1: It would have to be like Julia Roberts, right, she

3672
02:38:57,600 --> 02:38:58,680
was in the Oceans.

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02:38:58,319 --> 02:39:07,399
Speaker 4: Movie, Yeah, exact, or Kate Win's it Titanic. Yeah, it's

3674
02:39:07,440 --> 02:39:10,159
one of those two. And then Sean Pan's gonna play

3675
02:39:10,159 --> 02:39:11,559
the dad my Little Men.

3676
02:39:14,879 --> 02:39:17,280
Speaker 1: It's like the scene of her when he's like wrestling

3677
02:39:17,360 --> 02:39:17,879
the Hobbits.

3678
02:39:18,000 --> 02:39:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wins to give you the whatever Church brothers

3679
02:39:22,280 --> 02:39:25,399
present to you, and then he walks and my little Men,

3680
02:39:26,000 --> 02:39:28,280
he is shaking him with his big muscles.

3681
02:39:29,040 --> 02:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Get out here.

3682
02:39:30,479 --> 02:39:32,440
Speaker 4: I love them, I love my sons.

3683
02:39:35,799 --> 02:39:39,159
Speaker 1: You wish I died instead of instead of Chared Letto's character,

3684
02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:40,079
don't you father?

3685
02:39:40,760 --> 02:39:44,440
Speaker 4: I hope if they do remake Lord of the Rings movies,

3686
02:39:44,559 --> 02:39:50,079
fucking Sean Penn plays for sure.

3687
02:39:52,760 --> 02:39:53,319
Speaker 2: Your posts.

3688
02:39:53,680 --> 02:39:56,079
Speaker 4: All right, we gotta stop. We're going too far. Ah.

3689
02:39:56,239 --> 02:39:58,239
This is it this weekly geek. As you see, we

3690
02:39:58,280 --> 02:40:00,200
had to cut some topics for two forty in spent

3691
02:40:00,239 --> 02:40:01,760
a lot of time. This is this is what you

3692
02:40:01,799 --> 02:40:03,920
get geek. First. Here we get some great content. We

3693
02:40:04,120 --> 02:40:07,000
broke that trailer down. Lots of good times, curriculum things

3694
02:40:07,040 --> 02:40:09,600
for joining me. It was a fun one. Pros when

3695
02:40:09,600 --> 02:40:11,239
you hear from all next, you can't be boring.

3696
02:40:13,120 --> 02:40:18,840
Speaker 2: Wait, dad, tell me. I'm this guy. I'll talk about this.

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I'm about something to say.

