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today trop six spots and the A People or I
guess over the weekend. They are currently number twenty two
in college basketball where they stand in.
Speaker 3: Kenpom if you want to, if you want to align
it with the A.
Speaker 1: People, you got the human subjective eye test that puts
him at number twenty two.
Speaker 3: Ken Pom also has BYU.
Speaker 1: At number twenty two in their efficiency metric seventeen and
six overall, still knocking on the door, still in the
top twenty five. Let's get at evalleys get a grade
on the season thus far. Let's welome to Jonathan Tabernai
four three JT.
Speaker 3: Former BA. You great to talk to some Cougar basketball JT.
How you living? Brother?
Speaker 4: Is it football season yet?
Speaker 1: It hurts man when you're on a four game losing streak, right,
but give us some hope. Why should Cougar Nation have
hope in this Boa basketball team that they can get
it right because.
Speaker 4: It's atmost football season. Man. Well, look listen, I will
say this right. You look at the losses that they've had, Right,
you look at the loss to number three Yukon, and
you look to the loss against number one Arizona, and
all of those those two losses could have been winning.
And then you look at you look at the loss
of Texas Tech, and you look at the loss to
Oklahoma State, and then you look at the loss to Houston.
Those weren't closed losses, and so it just it just
feels like this team hasn't had its marquee win against
the top teams in the country when they had the
chance to do it. I mean, there's a big difference
then if we're looking at the BYU team five and
five in conference and maybe we're looking at them at
seven and three, maybe we were looking at them right
at eight and two. But the truth of the matter
is this team right now, they're tired. They are exhausted.
You know, Kevin Young is saying the right things, but
I dare to say that on the back, you know,
behind closed doors, the team is tired. Richie's tired, Rob
Right is tired, AJ is tired, and the just supporting
cast is just not there. Kevin was so blunt about
the big missing layups, and I mean, you know, three
four ten for the field and you know, just an
abysmal free throw percentage that you know the last game,
and so and again, I am going to be overly
critical of the things that I was a very I
was very good at. So instance, with three point shooting,
it isn't acceptable that Mahailo Boskovic and Alec State Coastitch
and Tyler Morass are all getting the nil that they're
getting and they you know, barely shooting thirty percent from
the three point line. What are we doing here? Right?
And so it's it's difficult for me to see that
and to break down on defense you know, by even
by Kernard Davis. It's it's a lot of it. It's
a head scratcher, right. Perception is reality. Like I know,
I'm going along Ben, you know, one of the things
I'm going to say is perception is reality. I mean,
you know, uh Ron, mister Weaver, you're not old bed breakfast,
lunch and dinner. Because we were talking a big game
before the season, hey at Ruby River and we're going
to drive down the canyon and go to r River
together pudding too and you all. But but like you know,
like my thing is perception is reality, and the perception
is that this BYU team was going to go to
the Final four, and right now, we would all be
surprised if they ended up being a five or six
or a seven seed. And they have a gauntlet of
a schedule left. They have eight games left, three or
damn are against top fifteen teams in the country. And
you know, it's just one of those things that you're like,
my gosh, like, you know, it may be a while
before they get another win because Baylor is better than
Oklahoma State and it's at Baylor, and so you know,
it's it's an interesting time to be a BYU fan
right now. And I will say this, right it's an
interesting time to be a BYU fan. Fans can have
all the right in the world to be bothered, to
be annoyed. A lot of in I own money, a
lot of investment has been on the team, the roster,
and on the staff. With all that being With all
of that being said, I can guarantee you been the
players in the staff feel it, feel it way more
than the fans do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, there's there's some pressure like we haven't
seen in the last year and a half two years,
right we've I don't know if we've ever seen Ky
really get after this team in front of the media
like an accountability approach, and we saw him get a
little bit salty with his bigs and even calling out
AJ to take care of his body in the post game,
saying that he thought that AJ would look like he
was going to pass out and and that's why he
ended up seblling them out and that he's gonna have to,
you know, have a little call to.
Speaker 3: Action with a J. I thought it was interesting. That's
the first time I want to say that.
Speaker 1: That Ky has really called out his team and uh,
he's realizing there's probably a big sense of urgency right now.
Speaker 4: And I think it's interesting that that he has said
the things that he said. I never seen him Dad,
Like he truly looks pissed, Like you know, and Ben,
you're talking to someone and you're like, oh, geez, I
caught him in a bad moment and they may not
tell you and go, I'm pissed right now, But like
he looks like this the interviews that he has done
at the Coaches Show and then with Spencer Linton after
the game, he is bothered and at least that's what
you expect from, you know, the number one rated coach
outside of the NBA, Right, And I think that's that's
a great place to be, you know. But and again
I don't want to give excuses to the scene because
next man up. But you know, gosh, you know, not
having Dawson and not having Nate and not having Brodie,
it is hurting this team. And I think, honestly, Blaine,
I think there's just guys are tired, and you know,
they need some whole you know. Kevin Young said something
that I like. He said, you know, we're pushing through
the rock. We're almost there. They just got to push through.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Tavinar are talking to BYU Basketball here on your
Utah ESPN radio network.
Speaker 3: You mentioned a few.
Speaker 1: Guys, right, It's like you mentioned Tyler Bras, Alexikostik, Mihailo Boskovic.
All three of these guys were brought in to hit
a standing three point shout of bucks other things.
Speaker 3: But like, right, it wasn't like one.
Speaker 1: Of the main reasons why all three of these guys
got brought in was to hit a standing three.
Speaker 4: Oh. And I completely agree with you. They were brought
in to do that. They were brought in to get
it done. They're not doing it. And I honestly think
that they are just the word I'm looking for, not concerned,
not cautious. They are hesitant about doing it. And I
don't know for the life of me why people used
to tell me to stop shooting. I would still shoot
somewhere where if these guys are were begging them to
shoot and they still won't shoot. And so like, I
don't understand, I really don't understand that is hurting y
U right defensively is hurting BUYU. They're more They're scoring
more than enough points to win games. You just got
to figure out a way to get stops.
Speaker 3: Who are you most disappointed in right now? JT.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be bad. I'm not trying to
be bad.
Speaker 3: You don't have to answer that.
Speaker 4: I started laughing as soon as I ron.
Speaker 3: Answer that. Don't answer that. No, I don't want I want.
Speaker 4: No. But hey, who looks of you?
Speaker 3: Who who do you expect? Who do you expect to
step up next game?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Because we're looking for supporting casts, supporting role who do
you who do you think is gonna step pup next game?
Speaker 4: This is I mean I'm disappointed who done the most
by the way, So I would say I expect the
more out of Keba and more out of of Abdullah.
And so I think Beato and Keba are the ones
that are a little bit because you look at the game, right,
I mean you you know, three four ten bunnies, right,
and so I think between your two bigs, you should
be able to score. You know, expect at least fifty percent,
you know, from from the field goal range. And then
free throw has also been abysmo. That's why I think
Ben now it's more of a mental thing than anything else.
And uh, you know, but it's a battle man to
more in Waco. They are you know. And I will
say this, I don't know this because yeah, I'm tools
to the program. I know a lot of what's going
on inside there. Nobody's ever told me this. This is
my personal opinion. I think at the end of the season,
we are going to look back and we're gonna look
at the Kansas game and the fact that Darren Peterson
outplayed AJ and I think we're gonna look at and
go that was the turning point of the season. Now
I'm gonna ask you both, don't make a big deal
about this quote. Don't blow it up. I don't need
my Twitter blowing up on this. But let's remember this moment.
I think that that's going to be a turnaround. And
again I'm telling that from a personal feeling, because Jay's
an amazing player. What he's done is absolutely Darren Peterson
looked like a freaking superhero. And Kansas actually looks like
the cancers of old Cancers. Didn't look like you know,
you know, the Kansas that lost the BYU are the
cancers of last year. It looked like the old Cansas,
if you know what I'm saying. And so I think
that we look back and go, gosh, dang, guys, that
was the game that that that the season felt like
it went on the flip because you lost to Kansas
and then you went and lost to Arizona at home
on a quick turnaround, had a chance to win, but
you didn't. And uh, you know, I don't even think
the Oklahoma State game is the one that we're gonna
look back to me. That was a very specific turnaround
where Aj was looking like Teflon, he was looking like
a superhero. He was looking invincible, and you know, and
that's our guy, and Darren Peterson is the you know,
you know, the not so good guy, and you know,
not the number one pick our guy is and Darren
Peterson out played AJ and Kansas won and Darren Peters
didn't even play a lot of the second half. And
so it's I I hope I'm wrong. I know I'm not.
Speaker 1: Jonathan tapinaw, are you talking some cougar hoops here on
your Utah ESPN radio network. It's h it's been an
interesting scene. He'sy no doubt, and what type of seed?
And let's say they end up five hundred in the
Big twelve. Let's say worst case scenario is BYU is
five hundred in Big twelve play, what type of seeding
do you think they get? I was talking to Ken
Palm yester Or last week and he said, you know,
if b Yu go six and four in the remaining
ten games, that they're probably at worst. I think he
said a four seed. Do you think they you know
what I mean, that's what he said, going off absolutely.
Speaker 4: That is that's absolutely cool. COO. I think that on
the last six games, the Baylor game is tough. I
think they beat Colorado, so that's maybe you know, I
don't know. If they beat I will stayed at home
at this point. I you know, so I would say one,
I would say, you know, they between you know, at
West Virginia and at Baylor, they'll win one. So they'll
go one in one, two and one, two and two,
two and three, three and three as Cincinnati, Man, that's tough.
And then I think in the last four games, I
think if BYU manages to go six and two, I
think that they have a chance to be a five
seed at best. I think if BYU goes four and
four or three or three and five, by will be
a seven seed.
Speaker 3: Well there's no way.
Speaker 1: Look, I had people reaching out to me and saying ye,
asking me question, is this is this team going to
the nc double Tournament.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, Like, what are you talking about? They're
going to the n c Double A Tournament?
Speaker 1: They will they shall uhh When you get that question,
what's your reaction?
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, for effect, they'll go to the NCAA Tournament.
But again, right we are and I'm gonna say wasting,
and because I know nobody is wasting, but imagine one
season of AJD BONSA and where you have the number
one recruit in the country and you don't go past
the sweet sixteen, that's tough, man. You know. I think
the expectation, and you and I talked about this, then
I think that if they don't go past the sweet sixteen,
I think that it wasn't a great season. Now, you
can definitely paint a picture of how great of a
season it is. But I mean, dude, do you I mean,
you could go to the beginning of the seed of
the season before the season even started, and the three
of us going at it lies going even more at
it on our text thread. I mean, and I you know,
perception is reality in reality. Right now, with uy, you
needs to win a lot of games. I don't think that.
I say that unless they go six and two, they're
not six and two. And yeah, people are gonna call
me crazy, but that's okay. Unless BYU goes six and
two and BYU gets to the championship game of the
Big twelve Tournament, they're not going to be a four seed.
They're gonna be a five or a six seed. The best.
Speaker 1: JT for three, Jonathan Tabinari, could you hit a standing
three right now? Thirty five percent of the time with
some of the looks that in the could you pick
and pop? Like Canard got like seven attempts. I think
in pick and pop situations, could you hit that.
Speaker 4: I couldn't pick and pop right now. Unfortunately I'm too overweight.
But I will say, da is my man for the
ni O money that they're getting right now, I would
get myself in shape, yes, and standing three, I could
easily be a good forty to fifty, especially because now
I'm more experienced now. I mean I usually mess around
and I catch and shoot, and after I worm up
for a couple of minutes and I just see the
ball go through, I usually go eight for ten, nine
out of ten. You know, last time I showered my boy,
I think I was like forty seven for fifty. Uh.
We were having a competition because he was asking for
you know, for for a new phone and that that
that that did not go well for him, by the way,
and and so yeah, standing up, I would be a
good sixty percent right now in a live game, easily
easily with the shape that I am right now. So
I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, jt oh shout out to xanders Will getting too patriarchical.
Speaker 3: Blessing. Big news for the Tabinari family.
Speaker 4: Hey, that was special, then, I you know, that was special.
You know, there's been a few special moments in my life,
and I gotta tell you, man, that was that was
up there, that was special, that was beautiful. You know,
it's just that he's just a great young man. And
I've told you this before. Ben. You know we're close.
We've we've known each other along, we've known our wives,
and so you know, I and I and I don't
say this too many people, but like you and I
were close at Uyu, I was very close. I'm very close.
We're very close. Still. Same thing with Lee Kamar, the
same thing with Kyle Collinsworth. You know, you guys, if
my son turns out to be like you know you guys,
where he is an outstanding athlete and even a better person,
a better man, I would I would be so lucky.
And uh and so I you know, it was a blessing,
and uh, you know, I it's it's a lucky thing.
It's a it's a very blessing. It's a blessed to
be able to be a dad and to experience those
things with your son. And godspel it is true. Families
are forever you know, we you know, it's all I
know to be true, and it's it's a special thing,
and so I appreciate, appreciate the shoutout. Man.
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, man, love and appreciate you. Happy for Zander
and your crew man. And it's a big move and
many blessings will come from a JT. Much love, man,
thanks for hopping on to.
Speaker 3: Talk some ball.
Speaker 4: Hey, I appreciate you having me and always then forever
my men's goku theygo.
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