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guess over the weekend. They are currently number twenty two

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in college basketball where they stand in.

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Speaker 3: Kenpom if you want to, if you want to align

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it with the A.

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Speaker 1: People, you got the human subjective eye test that puts

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him at number twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Ken Pom also has BYU.

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Speaker 1: At number twenty two in their efficiency metric seventeen and

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six overall, still knocking on the door, still in the

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top twenty five. Let's get at evalleys get a grade

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on the season thus far. Let's welome to Jonathan Tabernai

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four three JT.

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Speaker 3: Former BA. You great to talk to some Cougar basketball JT.

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How you living? Brother?

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Speaker 4: Is it football season yet?

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Speaker 1: It hurts man when you're on a four game losing streak, right,

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but give us some hope. Why should Cougar Nation have

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hope in this Boa basketball team that they can get

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it right because.

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Speaker 4: It's atmost football season. Man. Well, look listen, I will

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say this right. You look at the losses that they've had, Right,

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you look at the loss to number three Yukon, and

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you look to the loss against number one Arizona, and

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all of those those two losses could have been winning.

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And then you look at you look at the loss

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of Texas Tech, and you look at the loss to

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Oklahoma State, and then you look at the loss to Houston.

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Those weren't closed losses, and so it just it just

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feels like this team hasn't had its marquee win against

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the top teams in the country when they had the

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chance to do it. I mean, there's a big difference

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then if we're looking at the BYU team five and

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five in conference and maybe we're looking at them at

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seven and three, maybe we were looking at them right

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at eight and two. But the truth of the matter

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is this team right now, they're tired. They are exhausted.

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behind closed doors, the team is tired. Richie's tired, Rob

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cast is just not there. Kevin was so blunt about

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the big missing layups, and I mean, you know, three

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four ten for the field and you know, just an

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abysmal free throw percentage that you know the last game,

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and so and again, I am going to be overly

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critical of the things that I was a very I

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was very good at. So instance, with three point shooting,

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it isn't acceptable that Mahailo Boskovic and Alec State Coastitch

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and Tyler Morass are all getting the nil that they're

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getting and they you know, barely shooting thirty percent from

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the three point line. What are we doing here? Right?

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and to break down on defense you know, by even

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by Kernard Davis. It's it's a lot of it. It's

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a head scratcher, right. Perception is reality. Like I know,

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you know, uh Ron, mister Weaver, you're not old bed breakfast,

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lunch and dinner. Because we were talking a big game

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before the season, hey at Ruby River and we're going

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to drive down the canyon and go to r River

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together pudding too and you all. But but like you know,

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is that this BYU team was going to go to

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the Final four, and right now, we would all be

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surprised if they ended up being a five or six

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or a seven seed. And they have a gauntlet of

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a schedule left. They have eight games left, three or

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damn are against top fifteen teams in the country. And

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you know, it's just one of those things that you're like,

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my gosh, like, you know, it may be a while

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before they get another win because Baylor is better than

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Oklahoma State and it's at Baylor, and so you know,

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it's it's an interesting time to be a BYU fan

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right now. And I will say this, right it's an

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interesting time to be a BYU fan. Fans can have

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all the right in the world to be bothered, to

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be annoyed. A lot of in I own money, a

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lot of investment has been on the team, the roster,

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and on the staff. With all that being With all

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of that being said, I can guarantee you been the

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players in the staff feel it, feel it way more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, there's there's some pressure like we haven't

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right we've I don't know if we've ever seen Ky

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really get after this team in front of the media

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like an accountability approach, and we saw him get a

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little bit salty with his bigs and even calling out

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AJ to take care of his body in the post game,

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saying that he thought that AJ would look like he

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was going to pass out and and that's why he

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ended up seblling them out and that he's gonna have to,

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you know, have a little call to.

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Speaker 3: Action with a J. I thought it was interesting. That's

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Speaker 1: That Ky has really called out his team and uh,

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he's realizing there's probably a big sense of urgency right now.

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the things that he said. I never seen him Dad,

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you're talking to someone and you're like, oh, geez, I

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caught him in a bad moment and they may not

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tell you and go, I'm pissed right now, But like

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he looks like this the interviews that he has done

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at the Coaches Show and then with Spencer Linton after

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the game, he is bothered and at least that's what

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you expect from, you know, the number one rated coach

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outside of the NBA, Right, And I think that's that's

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a great place to be, you know. But and again

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I don't want to give excuses to the scene because

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next man up. But you know, gosh, you know, not

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having Dawson and not having Nate and not having Brodie,

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it is hurting this team. And I think, honestly, Blaine,

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I think there's just guys are tired, and you know,

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they need some whole you know. Kevin Young said something

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that I like. He said, you know, we're pushing through

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the rock. We're almost there. They just got to push through.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Tavinar are talking to BYU Basketball here on your

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Utah ESPN radio network.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned a few.

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Speaker 1: Guys, right, It's like you mentioned Tyler Bras, Alexikostik, Mihailo Boskovic.

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All three of these guys were brought in to hit

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a standing three point shout of bucks other things.

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Speaker 3: But like, right, it wasn't like one.

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Speaker 1: Of the main reasons why all three of these guys

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got brought in was to hit a standing three.

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Speaker 4: Oh. And I completely agree with you. They were brought

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in to do that. They were brought in to get

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it done. They're not doing it. And I honestly think

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that they are just the word I'm looking for, not concerned,

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not cautious. They are hesitant about doing it. And I

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don't know for the life of me why people used

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to tell me to stop shooting. I would still shoot

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somewhere where if these guys are were begging them to

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shoot and they still won't shoot. And so like, I

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don't understand, I really don't understand that is hurting y

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U right defensively is hurting BUYU. They're more They're scoring

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more than enough points to win games. You just got

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to figure out a way to get stops.

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Speaker 3: Who are you most disappointed in right now? JT.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be bad. I'm not trying to

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be bad.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to answer that.

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Speaker 4: I started laughing as soon as I ron.

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Speaker 3: Answer that. Don't answer that. No, I don't want I want.

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Speaker 4: No. But hey, who looks of you?

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Speaker 3: Who who do you expect? Who do you expect to

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step up next game?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because we're looking for supporting casts, supporting role who do

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you who do you think is gonna step pup next game?

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Speaker 4: This is I mean I'm disappointed who done the most

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by the way, So I would say I expect the

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more out of Keba and more out of of Abdullah.

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that are a little bit because you look at the game, right,

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I mean you you know, three four ten bunnies, right,

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and so I think between your two bigs, you should

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be able to score. You know, expect at least fifty percent,

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you know, from from the field goal range. And then

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free throw has also been abysmo. That's why I think

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Ben now it's more of a mental thing than anything else.

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And uh, you know, but it's a battle man to

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more in Waco. They are you know. And I will

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say this, I don't know this because yeah, I'm tools

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to the program. I know a lot of what's going

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on inside there. Nobody's ever told me this. This is

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my personal opinion. I think at the end of the season,

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we are going to look back and we're gonna look

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at the Kansas game and the fact that Darren Peterson

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outplayed AJ and I think we're gonna look at and

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go that was the turning point of the season. Now

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I'm gonna ask you both, don't make a big deal

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about this quote. Don't blow it up. I don't need

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my Twitter blowing up on this. But let's remember this moment.

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I think that that's going to be a turnaround. And

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again I'm telling that from a personal feeling, because Jay's

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an amazing player. What he's done is absolutely Darren Peterson

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looked like a freaking superhero. And Kansas actually looks like

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the cancers of old Cancers. Didn't look like you know,

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you know, the Kansas that lost the BYU are the

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cancers of last year. It looked like the old Cansas,

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if you know what I'm saying. And so I think

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that we look back and go, gosh, dang, guys, that

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it went on the flip because you lost to Kansas

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on a quick turnaround, had a chance to win, but

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the Oklahoma State game is the one that we're gonna

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where Aj was looking like Teflon, he was looking like

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a superhero. He was looking invincible, and you know, and

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that's our guy, and Darren Peterson is the you know,

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you know, the not so good guy, and you know,

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not the number one pick our guy is and Darren

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Peterson out played AJ and Kansas won and Darren Peters

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didn't even play a lot of the second half. And

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so it's I I hope I'm wrong. I know I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan tapinaw, are you talking some cougar hoops here on

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your Utah ESPN radio network. It's h it's been an

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interesting scene. He'sy no doubt, and what type of seed?

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And let's say they end up five hundred in the

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Big twelve. Let's say worst case scenario is BYU is

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five hundred in Big twelve play, what type of seeding

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do you think they get? I was talking to Ken

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Palm yester Or last week and he said, you know,

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if b Yu go six and four in the remaining

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ten games, that they're probably at worst. I think he

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said a four seed. Do you think they you know

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what I mean, that's what he said, going off absolutely.

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Speaker 4: That is that's absolutely cool. COO. I think that on

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the last six games, the Baylor game is tough. I

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think they beat Colorado, so that's maybe you know, I

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don't know. If they beat I will stayed at home

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at this point. I you know, so I would say one,

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I would say, you know, they between you know, at

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West Virginia and at Baylor, they'll win one. So they'll

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go one in one, two and one, two and two,

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two and three, three and three as Cincinnati, Man, that's tough.

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And then I think in the last four games, I

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think if BYU manages to go six and two, I

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think that they have a chance to be a five

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seed at best. I think if BYU goes four and

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four or three or three and five, by will be

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a seven seed.

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Speaker 3: Well there's no way.

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Speaker 1: Look, I had people reaching out to me and saying ye,

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asking me question, is this is this team going to

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the nc double Tournament.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, Like, what are you talking about? They're

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going to the n c Double A Tournament?

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Speaker 1: They will they shall uhh When you get that question,

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what's your reaction?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know, for effect, they'll go to the NCAA Tournament.

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But again, right we are and I'm gonna say wasting,

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and because I know nobody is wasting, but imagine one

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season of AJD BONSA and where you have the number

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one recruit in the country and you don't go past

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the sweet sixteen, that's tough, man. You know. I think

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the expectation, and you and I talked about this, then

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I think that if they don't go past the sweet sixteen,

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I think that it wasn't a great season. Now, you

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can definitely paint a picture of how great of a

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season it is. But I mean, dude, do you I mean,

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you could go to the beginning of the seed of

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the season before the season even started, and the three

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of us going at it lies going even more at

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it on our text thread. I mean, and I you know,

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perception is reality in reality. Right now, with uy, you

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needs to win a lot of games. I don't think that.

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I say that unless they go six and two, they're

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not six and two. And yeah, people are gonna call

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me crazy, but that's okay. Unless BYU goes six and

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two and BYU gets to the championship game of the

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Big twelve Tournament, they're not going to be a four seed.

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They're gonna be a five or a six seed. The best.

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Speaker 1: JT for three, Jonathan Tabinari, could you hit a standing

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three right now? Thirty five percent of the time with

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some of the looks that in the could you pick

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and pop? Like Canard got like seven attempts. I think

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in pick and pop situations, could you hit that.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't pick and pop right now. Unfortunately I'm too overweight.

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But I will say, da is my man for the

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ni O money that they're getting right now, I would

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get myself in shape, yes, and standing three, I could

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easily be a good forty to fifty, especially because now

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I'm more experienced now. I mean I usually mess around

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and I catch and shoot, and after I worm up

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for a couple of minutes and I just see the

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ball go through, I usually go eight for ten, nine

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out of ten. You know, last time I showered my boy,

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I think I was like forty seven for fifty. Uh.

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We were having a competition because he was asking for

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you know, for for a new phone and that that

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that that did not go well for him, by the way,

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and and so yeah, standing up, I would be a

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good sixty percent right now in a live game, easily

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easily with the shape that I am right now. So

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I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, jt oh shout out to xanders Will getting too patriarchical.

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Speaker 3: Blessing. Big news for the Tabinari family.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that was special, then, I you know, that was special.

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You know, there's been a few special moments in my life,

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and I gotta tell you, man, that was that was

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up there, that was special, that was beautiful. You know,

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it's just that he's just a great young man. And

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I've told you this before. Ben. You know we're close.

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We've we've known each other along, we've known our wives,

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and so you know, I and I and I don't

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say this too many people, but like you and I

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were close at Uyu, I was very close. I'm very close.

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We're very close. Still. Same thing with Lee Kamar, the

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same thing with Kyle Collinsworth. You know, you guys, if

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my son turns out to be like you know you guys,

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where he is an outstanding athlete and even a better person,

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a better man, I would I would be so lucky.

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And uh and so I you know, it was a blessing,

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and uh, you know, I it's it's a lucky thing.

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It's a it's a very blessing. It's a blessed to

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be able to be a dad and to experience those

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things with your son. And godspel it is true. Families

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are forever you know, we you know, it's all I

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know to be true, and it's it's a special thing,

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and so I appreciate, appreciate the shoutout. Man.

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Speaker 1: Heck yeah, man, love and appreciate you. Happy for Zander

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and your crew man. And it's a big move and

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many blessings will come from a JT. Much love, man,

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thanks for hopping on to.

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Speaker 3: Talk some ball.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I appreciate you having me and always then forever

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my men's goku theygo.

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