Speaker 1: And joining us now is Tony Ardeman of wise Wolf Gold.
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Speaker 1: average out your dollar costs. And so we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about what has happened and the wake of the election.
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of big moves in stock market,
Speaker 1: the crypto market, gold and silver, that type of thing,
Speaker 1: and yet has anything fundamentally changed. Joining us now is
Speaker 1: Tony Ardeban. Thank you for joining us, Tony.
Speaker 2: Always great to be here, David.
Speaker 1: It's crazy that what we've seen we had the stock
Speaker 1: market now Jones went up fifteen hundred points to a
Speaker 1: record high after Trump won the election. You know we
Speaker 1: saw before this. I remember Drudge trying to make a
Speaker 1: case that Lala was going to win, and he was said, well,
Speaker 1: there's one outlier. You know, even though all the CEOs
Speaker 1: and all the editors these liberal newspapers are running away
Speaker 1: from Lala and running to Trump. He said, the stock
Speaker 1: market is doing really well. So that says that those
Speaker 1: in power, they anticipate this to continue. So that usually
Speaker 1: means that you're going to have the incumbent win. Well,
Speaker 1: she wasn't the incumbent. Trump was more of an incumbent,
Speaker 1: and so they're looking at this and they're thinking that
Speaker 1: this is going to be good for Wall Street. Tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about your perspective on the stock
Speaker 1: market thing before we get into crypto and gold and silver.
Speaker 3: Sure, well, I wouldn't say from last week when we spoke,
Speaker 3: and you know, prior to the election, wanted to discuss
Speaker 3: the outcomes, whether it was a Harris.
Speaker 2: Win or a Trump win.
Speaker 3: And today I get to know how it feels to
Speaker 3: be Gerald Salente all the time because I called it.
Speaker 2: Lastly, here's the headline on Kicko.
Speaker 3: Trump's victory spurs bitcoin surge to seventy six thousand, all
Speaker 3: time high stock in the stock rally, while gold and
Speaker 3: silver tumble. And that's what I said I thought would
Speaker 3: happen if if it was a Trump selection, there would
Speaker 3: be a downturn in the precious metals markets temporarily, because
Speaker 3: what that is, it's nothing unsound about the fundamentals of
Speaker 3: that market, or that it's overpriced. It's people selling off
Speaker 3: their positions to get into cash and then buy into
Speaker 3: the stock market. And because it's a psychological threshold that
Speaker 3: was crossed with a Trump victory, because it signals a
Speaker 3: lot of things that are going to be different than
Speaker 3: in an Harris administration. And again it's it may not
Speaker 3: even be policy, but it's it's to perceive changes.
Speaker 2: And that's what's going on. It's all psychological.
Speaker 3: I mean, Trump's not president, he has no he cannot
Speaker 3: affect policy.
Speaker 2: And that's it.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's just a it's a psychological move.
Speaker 3: And plus what he's discussed with bitcoin is what you
Speaker 3: know with the Nashville conference that I attended, and R. F. K.
Speaker 3: Junior being you know, in the periphery of his administration,
Speaker 3: that's driving that as well. But fundamentals, David, again, there's
Speaker 3: what you can get very wealthy dabbling in stocks. You know,
Speaker 3: there's many examples of that, and I know people that do.
Speaker 3: I don't get into that side of the business because
Speaker 3: I don't believe that their projections of profits or they're
Speaker 3: what they show equals wealth, you know, because they can
Speaker 3: always paper over it.
Speaker 2: That's the thing about stocks.
Speaker 3: You can always increase the amount of shares, just like
Speaker 3: you can with the fiat currency and so much of that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hidden.
Speaker 3: You don't like the people that held Lehman stock or
Speaker 3: Enron or something like that, or World comp I mean,
Speaker 3: they got burned and it looks good on you know, temporarily,
Speaker 3: but again it's it follows these these trends that aren't
Speaker 3: necessarily built on anything. It's just a perceived value. And
Speaker 3: that's what happened after the Trump went on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got burned very bad in stock market where
Speaker 1: they dot Com crash.
Speaker 2: I looked at it.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I'm not betting on any of these companies.
Speaker 1: It really is a bad. Well I'll go with the
Speaker 1: real manufacturers of switching circuitry because we know that Internet
Speaker 1: is going to be there, right, But they all went down,
Speaker 1: I mean until everybody went down. You know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: pet dot Com that went down. It was everybody crash
Speaker 1: because they built up the expectations We're going to see
Speaker 1: the same thing happening with AI, I think as well.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it is a betting market, and we saw
Speaker 1: one of these whales that was betting on the election,
Speaker 1: and I think he put in like fifty million and
Speaker 1: he made like a twenty five million dollar profit or whatever.
Speaker 1: But it is a it is a bet, and that's
Speaker 1: really kind of what these guys are doing. It's kind
Speaker 1: of the same thing that this whale did to make
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And it's kind of the madness
Speaker 1: of crowds and this kind of contation that is going
Speaker 1: through there because I think, Tony, what are they kind
Speaker 1: of betting on? Well, they're kind of betting on that
Speaker 1: Trump is going to lower taxes and he's going to
Speaker 1: do this, and he's going to do that, and what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with that? That's going to be feeding
Speaker 1: the deficit more. It's going to be more inflation, right,
Speaker 1: So you know that's when you look at the the
Speaker 1: inflation stuff, it's really the hedge against that is not
Speaker 1: necessarily the goal of the stock market. The hedge is
Speaker 1: really gold against that type of inflation or crypto if
Speaker 1: you look at it that way. And I think the
Speaker 1: crypto thing. You went to the Nashville conference, as you
Speaker 1: pointed out, where Trump was there and rf K Junior
Speaker 1: was there, and they were talking about crypto and the
Speaker 1: fact that maybe we'll even have some of that as
Speaker 1: keeping that in reserve, have the federal government buying that.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a big part of what is
Speaker 1: happening at crypto right now.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the big story really is what Larry
Speaker 3: Finger Blackrock wants. I mean, really, at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, the most successful ETF launch in history was
Speaker 3: black Rocks Bitcoin ETF. I talked about that right in
Speaker 3: January when it was announced it was going to go through,
Speaker 3: and I said, now watch the price of bitcoin. I
Speaker 3: think bitcoin was thirty five thousand or thirty seventh whatever
Speaker 3: it was back in January, and I said, this is
Speaker 3: going to change the game because now you've got these
Speaker 3: big institutional players.
Speaker 2: It at least accelerated the timeline for bitcoin.
Speaker 3: Even by anybody who's been in bitcoin a long time
Speaker 3: knows that bitcoin will stand on its own. But if
Speaker 3: you really want to drive the price and drive scarcity,
Speaker 3: that's what you'll do. So I really think that those,
Speaker 3: you know, proposals, maybe not so much from RFK Junior,
Speaker 3: but from Trump or those were coming from other places.
Speaker 2: Those aren't coming from Trump's mind. I remember when he was.
Speaker 3: Talking in Nashville, and it's like he was reading it
Speaker 3: for the first time because when he'd come across the
Speaker 3: h he said in bitcoin finally surpassed the the market cap.
Speaker 2: Of silver, and he goes wow, like he was, like,
Speaker 2: you read it the first time.
Speaker 3: I don't think, I don't think his mind is on bitcoin,
Speaker 3: but definitely there's a lot of people backing him that
Speaker 3: have showed him, you know, what they plan to do.
Speaker 2: I don't oppose that.
Speaker 3: I mean, if as long as you can still hold
Speaker 3: your private wallet, private keys, all the rest of that,
Speaker 3: I don't recommend buying you tips. But I think that's
Speaker 3: really to get to the point, that's the fundamentals behind
Speaker 3: what's driving this perceived you know shift in what the
Speaker 3: administration the you know, the friendliness to bitcoin, as you
Speaker 3: seem like the Biden administration was totally anti crypto, and
Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, the Trump administration was very
Speaker 3: friendly either, you know, the previous one.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I think though, with this new new proposals and what's
Speaker 3: been discussed in Nashville, there's a there's a lot that's
Speaker 3: going to happen in bitcoin that's something to watch. But
Speaker 3: again it's not coming from policy necessarily, as it's coming
Speaker 3: from from black.
Speaker 1: Row, and that is a big significant difference between the
Speaker 1: two of them, and that is their attitude towards crypto.
Speaker 1: As you pointed out, they were not friendly towards crypto
Speaker 1: and the Trump administration and he had Jared Kushner and
Speaker 1: Steve man Uchin start to talk about how they're going
Speaker 1: to do central bank digital currency. Of course that's a
Speaker 1: competitor to crypto. And then with the Democrats, they went
Speaker 1: full on war and we're gonna just we're going to
Speaker 1: stop this. We're going to intimidate people. Don't make yourself
Speaker 1: an exchange for people to get enter out of this,
Speaker 1: and you know when to shut your bank down if
Speaker 1: you get into this type of thing. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was already full on war and it was going to accelerate.
Speaker 1: And so when Trump took the opposite approach, and then
Speaker 1: when he wins, that is a you know, really juicing
Speaker 1: this thing at this point in time. As I look
Speaker 1: at the CBDC, the Western countries, especially the Five Eyes,
Speaker 1: the US, UK, Canada, New Zealand Australia have pulled back
Speaker 1: on their push for CBDC, I think they're not giving
Speaker 1: up on it. I think they're just trying to do
Speaker 1: it by stealth. And I think they're going to outsource this,
Speaker 1: and I would not be surprised if they do something
Speaker 1: like I played yesterday a clip from Elon Musky said,
Speaker 1: I think I can make X the half of the
Speaker 1: world's financial system. It's exactly the same type of thing
Speaker 1: that Zuckerberg was trying to plot with Libra, except I
Speaker 1: think Musk is smarter about it, and he might actually
Speaker 1: be used by them to put in a de facto
Speaker 1: central bank, digital currency, digital money, global IDs and stuff
Speaker 1: like that for a while, and then after people get
Speaker 1: acclimated to it, then they can just take it over.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's kind of the path that
Speaker 1: I see happening with that.
Speaker 2: What do you I think you're right. I think it'll
Speaker 2: come through corporations.
Speaker 3: And now that we have, you know, kind of a
Speaker 3: clear view for we don't we're no longer in the
Speaker 3: election process. It is interesting you step back and you wonder,
Speaker 3: you know these CBDC plans, You know that they were
Speaker 3: going full tilt towards that, and how do you get there?
Speaker 3: I mean, you have, in order to build something back better,
Speaker 3: you have to destroy it first. I mean, I look
Speaker 3: at what they what they've done, not doing anything about
Speaker 3: the petro dollar, weaponizing the dollar all around the world,
Speaker 3: just to i mean, the ubiquitous sanctions and going full
Speaker 3: tilt into that, even though when it's hurting you know,
Speaker 3: dollar utilization and increasing d dollarization worldwide.
Speaker 2: It just made me think, Okay, you've got a plan here.
Speaker 3: You're going we're going to destroy the dollar and people
Speaker 3: are going to beg for something different or something stable,
Speaker 3: and that would be a central bank digital currency. And
Speaker 3: you know, you could get your credit it's loaded up,
Speaker 3: but you just give your biometric data and all the
Speaker 3: rest and you sign up for this this new wallet.
Speaker 2: So that's what I was thinking. I'm not sure now,
Speaker 2: I mean, you may be right.
Speaker 3: This with the the corporation links and you know, the
Speaker 3: Silicon Valley PayPal mafia linked to this new administration, we
Speaker 3: have to watch that very closely. The technocracy really knows
Speaker 3: no party, and then that's that's the cue here. They
Speaker 3: don't they don't recognize party and they use both the
Speaker 3: you know, establishment parties the doopoly for their own ends.
Speaker 2: So that's what we still have to be very cautious
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: And the timeline may have changed a bit, but it's
Speaker 3: still coming CBDC will be a reality.
Speaker 2: You know, the World Economic Forum wasn't wrong.
Speaker 3: Ninety seven percent of countries have adopted some form of
Speaker 3: a plan for central bank digital currencies.
Speaker 2: So there's a This is a change, for sure.
Speaker 3: This result on the election is going to change some things.
Speaker 3: But ultimately, all that's still in the table, deeed, allgorization
Speaker 3: still on the table, David every all the fundamentals.
Speaker 2: People forget.
Speaker 3: Trump printed forty percent of all the dollars ever made.
Speaker 3: It was it was Biden sat, hold my beer and
Speaker 3: he doubled it. I mean, so I see, you know again,
Speaker 3: we've already have a history. We already know what a
Speaker 3: Trump administration looks like. And you know, when he ran
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, he ran against the stock market.
Speaker 2: He ran against the federal Reserve.
Speaker 3: He said, we got to audit that, we got to
Speaker 3: look into that, and he you know, it was it
Speaker 3: was vague, but he ran against it.
Speaker 2: He said, the stock market's a bubble.
Speaker 3: And then when he was elected, he said, look, greatest
Speaker 3: stock market of all time, right, you know, And I
Speaker 3: think that's the issue, is that the stock market's built
Speaker 3: off of debt and its ties to the central bank
Speaker 3: and how much liquidity it can get, and you know,
Speaker 3: the lowering of interest rates, which is inflation. All of
Speaker 3: that is inflationary, and I think Trump will push.
Speaker 2: More of that. I mean, that's that's it.
Speaker 3: It'll look good on paper, you might your four oh
Speaker 3: one K might look good for a little while, but
Speaker 3: we the fundamentals of that is that the currency's losing value.
Speaker 3: And I don't think that these companies are sound. A
Speaker 3: lot of them that are that are seeing these rallies
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the difference between the approach of the two.
Speaker 1: You know, the Democrats will come on you straight ahead, right,
Speaker 1: And so Biden back in twenty twenty two, he's saying, okay,
Speaker 1: I want everybody in the swamp, you know, everybody. That's
Speaker 1: all the agencies that are under the executive branch. One
Speaker 1: of these four areas going to redesign the financial system.
Speaker 1: We're going to figure out how law enforcement is going
Speaker 1: to force it on people. We are going to write
Speaker 1: the code, and we're going to tell people how we
Speaker 1: got to do it to save the environment.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you know, they look
Speaker 1: at Ai and it's like, oh wait a minute, we've
Speaker 1: got to think about number four. You know, we're going
Speaker 1: to have to pivot a little bit here because this
Speaker 1: energy thing is is not working out for us. And
Speaker 1: then they realize that people know what they're going to pull,
Speaker 1: and so they're going to step it back and they're
Speaker 1: going to do it iteratively, as Fauci said, right step
Speaker 1: by step. And that's the danger of the Republican approach.
Speaker 1: They always get this stuff in. You know that people
Speaker 1: will say, oh, we've got a Republican president now, so
Speaker 1: I'm not going to buy any guns, and so they
Speaker 1: stopped buying guns. When a Democrat gets in, they buy
Speaker 1: the guns, and then it's the Republican who comes in
Speaker 1: and says, we're going to take the guns into the
Speaker 1: due process. Later we're going to start doing a gun
Speaker 1: control by executive order. So they always run this stuff in.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a frontal attack, sometimes it's just in the
Speaker 1: you know, they get people's trust and they exploit that
Speaker 1: trust and get people to go to sleep. And that's
Speaker 1: the key thing. That's why I want people to realize
Speaker 1: that this agenda that they've got is not going away,
Speaker 1: and none of the fundamentals, as you were talking about
Speaker 1: in terms of deficit and money creation and all the
Speaker 1: rest of the stuff, dedollarization. None of that is changing
Speaker 1: under Trump any differently than it would have been under Biden,
Speaker 1: except that people are going to be kind of pacified
Speaker 1: and not really paying attention as much because it's going
Speaker 1: to be coming from Trump.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well, it count me out of being
Speaker 3: pacified on any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I saw. I pretty much saw what was going to
Speaker 2: come in.
Speaker 3: It's this rally in the stock market, gold and silver
Speaker 3: take die for a bit, but it all comes back.
Speaker 3: It'll come back because the fundamentals are still there. There's
Speaker 3: something wrong with our currency, there's something wrong with our policy,
Speaker 3: you know. And if there is a massive change see
Speaker 3: change geopolitically by the Trump administration, that could move things.
Speaker 2: But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you know, the personnelist policy last time
Speaker 3: he hired everybody who didn't vote for him.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, will he will he bring some sort of
Speaker 3: ease from the tensions of geopolitically with you know, things
Speaker 3: like Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Will he actually stop that?
Speaker 3: Will he slow down the accelerator accelerated past to World
Speaker 3: War III. I hope, so, I hope, I hope I'm wrong,
Speaker 3: but I think, uh, you know again, central banks are
Speaker 3: buying gold at a record pace that will continue because
Speaker 3: the dollar is losing purchasing power and in order in
Speaker 3: order for the government to function, David, I mean, all
Speaker 3: these plans, all these things that they want to do.
Speaker 2: Neither candidate in.
Speaker 3: This election ran on fiscal responsibility or balancing the budget
Speaker 3: or anything that would have been talked to out in
Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties. They would have been out front, by
Speaker 3: the way in the nineteen nineties, and they would have
Speaker 3: shown the debt clock and everything else. They stopped doing
Speaker 3: that a long time ago because the numbers are so
Speaker 3: bad it gives up the game. I mean literally, if
Speaker 3: you have a brain at all, if you're paying attention,
Speaker 3: you go, well, that's those numbers aren't sustainable. Well, no
Speaker 3: they're not, and so it will stop eventually, you know,
Speaker 3: you will have to have to be And that's why
Speaker 3: they float these terms like reset financial reset worldwide.
Speaker 2: That's what these.
Speaker 3: Banks, folks, that's what it's not because they necessarily think
Speaker 3: that they're going to be a wealthier country. It's because
Speaker 3: they want to have a functioning country. These central banks
Speaker 3: are buying gold because they're going to rednominate all of
Speaker 3: their currencies in gold. That's what they're doing. They're going
Speaker 3: to reset all these balance sheets and stuff that's been
Speaker 3: held over since. By the way, a lot of this,
Speaker 3: a lot of the goal that's held on these balance
Speaker 3: sheets is marked at thirty five dollars an ounce. It
Speaker 3: never moved because that was the way it was that
Speaker 3: Breton Woods in nineteen forty four. A lot of these
Speaker 3: countries never rebalanced it and never revalued it, and a
Speaker 3: lot of that's what all this stuff with the bricks
Speaker 3: is for for their cross border payments. What they're doing
Speaker 3: is they're not setting up a unified currency. They're setting
Speaker 3: up away for all of them to trade currencies against
Speaker 3: their gold across their borders and for trade.
Speaker 2: That's really what this is.
Speaker 3: The dollar is already lost, you know, when the Bank
Speaker 3: of International Settlements gave the gave gold, you know, tier
Speaker 3: one reserve asset status.
Speaker 2: I think it's only a few years ago.
Speaker 3: That was massive because that had it only been currencies,
Speaker 3: and the gold got listed and now it's supplanted the
Speaker 3: euro as number two. Number one is the dollar for
Speaker 3: most held reserve asset. Those days are just passing. And
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these countries, especially the ones
Speaker 3: the central banks that are buying the most gold, to
Speaker 3: see that.
Speaker 2: And that's what's going to change again. The dollar.
Speaker 3: A Trump victory, a Harris victory, the dollar has been damaged.
Speaker 3: It's mortally wounded, and it's going to have to it's
Speaker 3: going to have to change in form.
Speaker 2: It has to just based off of again the debasement.
Speaker 1: And Larry Fink Blackrock says, it doesn't make any difference
Speaker 1: between the two of them. He said, you know, for
Speaker 1: what we're doing, it doesn't make any difference. He knows
Speaker 1: that it's not going to make any difference. You know,
Speaker 1: when you look at when everything starts to crash, and
Speaker 1: we've got all these different derivatives, and we've got ETFs
Speaker 1: and all the rest is you know, what, what does
Speaker 1: it go back to. It's got to go back to
Speaker 1: something real. Well, you know, you could look at things
Speaker 1: like land, but it's hard for most of us to
Speaker 1: own the land outright, and of course with property taxes
Speaker 1: you never will gold you're not gonna you know, you
Speaker 1: can actually own that outright, you know, And and so
Speaker 1: it's a it's a different perspective, and of course it's
Speaker 1: somebody that's really barish on all of this stuff. I
Speaker 1: think that's where the people who are looking at gold
Speaker 1: not seeing a very bright path ahead for the financial
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Speaker 1: bitcoin IRA like he has with the Precious Metals IRA.
Speaker 1: Hope he gets that wolf Pack bitcoin up soon, he says,
Speaker 1: loading trucking ATM I'll listen later though, So, yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 2: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: There are some good products out there that are bitcoin iras.
Speaker 3: We get so busy with the gold and silber irays,
Speaker 3: I haven't thought even to link those up. That most
Speaker 3: likely will be an option though, if we find some way,
Speaker 3: just like we've done with New Direction Trusts, that's an
Speaker 3: option and we will have the wise Wolf Bitcoin will
Speaker 3: be operational soon this kind of stuff, I tell you,
Speaker 3: the more regulations that they have, it's harder and harder
Speaker 3: to do any kind of startups, and you have to
Speaker 3: have a certain type of banks and it takes forever.
Speaker 3: So with my schedule, it takes three times four times
Speaker 3: as much as it used to take me because I
Speaker 3: can't devote much brain power to it. I have to
Speaker 3: like put it in the morning and I look at
Speaker 3: it and we'll do one thing, two things, and maybe
Speaker 3: you know, get to something later. And that's where I
Speaker 3: am with wise well Bitcoin. But by the end of
Speaker 3: the year, we will be functional.
Speaker 1: And we can see that, we can see just how
Speaker 1: much they have ramped up all these know your customer
Speaker 1: rules and all the rest of this stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: because on rock fin when people give us a tip,
Speaker 1: they converted into their own cryptocurrency or whatever, and then
Speaker 1: I got to hop out of that. I've got to
Speaker 1: hop into ethereum and then from ethereum into a dollar
Speaker 1: and have thing, and and to have to deal with
Speaker 1: you know, these these exchanges. The regulations that are coming
Speaker 1: out of Washington to try to shut that down essentially
Speaker 1: with rules and regulations. Can imagine what it's like to
Speaker 1: be a dealer and have to deal with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to be a big corporation really to try
Speaker 1: to jump through these hoops. Maybe that will change under
Speaker 1: a Trump administration if they're friendly to crypto. One of
Speaker 1: the key things that they should do start removing all
Speaker 1: these arbitrary regulations that have been put into the kind
Speaker 1: of de facto shut it down.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well, I think that is a big difference.
Speaker 3: You know, we talk about the doopoly and most things
Speaker 3: are the same, whether it's left or right paradigm. I
Speaker 3: totally agree with that, but in this instance, and I
Speaker 3: think again, the reason it's so stark contrast is because
Speaker 3: of things like Blackrock, Larry Fink, there's with the ETFs
Speaker 3: again with bitcoin. That's what's primarily driving this policy change.
Speaker 3: Blackrock is going to get their return. They made a
Speaker 3: bet on bitcoin, They're going to get their return. And
Speaker 3: I think with the just the fundamentals of everything that
Speaker 3: came out of the Biden administration and Elizabeth Warren and
Speaker 3: you know, they're useful tools against things that are anything
Speaker 3: free market, so that that's just.
Speaker 2: You know, nobody would believe them.
Speaker 3: It'd be like, you know, it's the reason that LBJ
Speaker 3: and JFK could have never opened China. But could you know,
Speaker 3: because he was anti communists, you know, so it's like
Speaker 3: the perceived free market, you know, advocate as.
Speaker 2: People will perceive Trump as.
Speaker 3: But I don't, you know, we know he's you know,
Speaker 3: so many crony capitalist moves or imminent domain stuff that
Speaker 3: you and I would never do. But he's come along
Speaker 3: and back this and for good or ill I think,
Speaker 3: and I think for bitcoin and people that are private
Speaker 3: holders of bitcoin or understand, this is going to be.
Speaker 3: This is the bull market, this is going to be
Speaker 3: this is life changing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Again, if he follows through, even if he's thirty forty
Speaker 3: percent into what he said, you know what some of
Speaker 3: the things that we're discussed in Nashville, David were, you know,
Speaker 3: RFK Junior saying that if he was elected, he would
Speaker 3: have the he would order the treasury to buy like
Speaker 3: five hundred bitcoin a day until it reached twenty percent
Speaker 3: of the world's reserves, just like we supposedly have twenty
Speaker 3: percent of the world's gold reserves. We don't, by the way,
Speaker 3: spoiler alert, we don't have that. But that's what he
Speaker 3: said that he would do is president. And then of
Speaker 3: course Trump came and had a lot less specific policy
Speaker 3: rolled out, but he did mention a strategic reserve asset
Speaker 3: and that he would not move the current bitcoin that
Speaker 3: was held over from seizures like Silk Road and things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: But I need to give that back to Ross Olbrich right,
Speaker 1: hopefully he'll let him out. But yeah, they just had
Speaker 1: a Bitcoin Policy Institute just put out a fifty three
Speaker 1: page report about setting up a strategic bitcoin reserve, exactly
Speaker 1: what they were talking about at that conference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, there's a.
Speaker 3: There was a move made after Trump announced that too,
Speaker 3: by the Biden administration kind of answering him.
Speaker 2: They sold off.
Speaker 3: A big chunk of the bitcoin that had already held
Speaker 3: because he said he was going to hold it. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you followed that. So there was there
Speaker 3: was a difference, and this may be like one of
Speaker 3: the most underlying differences, glaring ones that actually existed between
Speaker 3: the two candidates. And I think moving forward it's going
Speaker 3: to be Bitcoin is in a bull market now and
Speaker 3: will continue indefinitely. I mean, you might see some pullback,
Speaker 3: and I don't I'm not giving investment advice but if
Speaker 3: you don't know about bitcoin any take a look at
Speaker 3: the fundamentals here. Really it's about how much supply is there,
Speaker 3: and it's not what you mean. It's not a heavy supply,
Speaker 3: especially with the inflows they're doing in these ETFs and
Speaker 3: they're just buying it up in massive quantity.
Speaker 2: So something to watch there. I don't I think.
Speaker 3: I think the bitcoin market continues to be bullish. Gold
Speaker 3: and silver will continue to do what they do, it
Speaker 3: just won't be as fast. I mean, I think some
Speaker 3: of the things that we're driving the price of gold
Speaker 3: and silver gold, especially under the Biden administration, was just
Speaker 3: there was no moves made economically to help anything to
Speaker 3: bolster the strength of the US economy. I mean we
Speaker 3: saw moves like just depleting the strategic petroleum reserves and
Speaker 3: then not refilling and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that with US, like looting treasury.
Speaker 1: Yeah yes, yeah, But you know one thing that's not
Speaker 1: going to change. I see the headline from Kitko, Can
Speaker 1: the US survive? It's debt, the doom loop trap and
Speaker 1: golden future, golden dollars future under Trump. That's that's the
Speaker 1: you know, with this debt that Trump escalated is really
Speaker 1: a doom loop, and I fully expect for him to
Speaker 1: do that as well this this next time. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to do exactly the same type of thing.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, I think first of all, the
Speaker 1: debt is crushing and it's going to continue. Once he
Speaker 1: changed the slope which it was increasing, Biden kept that going,
Speaker 1: and I think I think Trump is going to do
Speaker 1: that again, if not set it on a whole nutrajectory,
Speaker 1: a steeper slope. And so I think that doom loop
Speaker 1: is a trap. And I think that the debt thing
Speaker 1: is not going to change regardless of you know, Trump
Speaker 1: coming in. None of that's going to change. It may
Speaker 1: actually get worse.
Speaker 3: It may actually get worse that yes, And again, because
Speaker 3: you know Trump is looking to reform or so called reform,
Speaker 3: I think what you're going to see is just a
Speaker 3: lot of bipartisanship and other things that the government got
Speaker 3: bigger under Trump. I mean, there was huge amount of
Speaker 3: spending increase, and especially with COVID nineteen eighty four. It
Speaker 3: really remains to be seen. He's not a fiscal hawk,
Speaker 3: he doesn't see it that way. And then you know,
Speaker 3: his rhetoric has always been that he leverages through debt,
Speaker 3: and that's what the US economy's built off of. I
Speaker 3: would love to see some jobs coming back, you know,
Speaker 3: if he's going to be strategic about tariffs or anything. Again,
Speaker 3: we'll just see it's on the table. We don't know
Speaker 3: what's going to happen yet. I just have the past
Speaker 3: to be my guide. I know what four years of
Speaker 3: the Trump administration looked like prior, you know, twenty seventeen
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: So I know that and that's what I'll be going
Speaker 2: off of.
Speaker 3: And there was a massive increases in spending, you know,
Speaker 3: the debt continued to balloon. Maybe a little bit of deregulation,
Speaker 3: but again the fundamentals of creating a sound economy just
Speaker 3: weren't there. So I'm going to and so I'm going
Speaker 3: to see that. You know, again, there's a boon in
Speaker 3: the stock market, it's temporary. And you know, the precious
Speaker 3: metals markets, which gold and silver are money, they're going
Speaker 3: to continue to strengthen and they're going to continue to
Speaker 3: grow in value or if you want to say value,
Speaker 3: it's really the loss of purchasing power the dollar. The
Speaker 3: dollar will continue to lose purchasing power because that's built
Speaker 3: into a fake fiat currency.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I think a lesson for all of
Speaker 1: us is take a look at what is happening in China.
Speaker 1: For example, they had this potemp Can wealth. They built
Speaker 1: all these potemp Can villages everywhere, potemp Can sky scrapers,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people became paper billionaires. Now a
Speaker 1: third of all the billionaires have lost their billionaire status
Speaker 1: because this property market that is crashing. So I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the key things. So when you look
Speaker 1: at it, what are you going to do to protect
Speaker 1: your wealth? And as I said before, even with property,
Speaker 1: you know the taxes that are attached to it and everything.
Speaker 1: It has to be maintained like that. Whereas if you
Speaker 1: have gold as kind of a wealth insurance, once you
Speaker 1: get it, you've got it that type of thing. And
Speaker 1: so that's what I look at that, and trying to
Speaker 1: be outside of the digital system. That's a real premium
Speaker 1: for me to be outside of this whole digital system.
Speaker 1: I do not obey. Here says yes, thank you, Tony,
Speaker 1: got my package yesterday. Happy customer thumbs up wolf Pack Gold.
Speaker 1: So another happy customer. And I've known Tony for a
Speaker 1: very long time and I've had nothing but good experiences
Speaker 1: with Tony through out all these different years, and so
Speaker 1: I really do appreciate what you do. So tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about, you know, what's happening specifically at
Speaker 1: Wise Wolf.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, after the election, we saw there was
Speaker 3: an uptick and there was some liquidity, people selling, as
Speaker 3: I predicted, because they're going to get out of the
Speaker 3: precious metals. They feel like it's safe to return to
Speaker 3: the markets. And I hope they do well and they'll
Speaker 3: be back. That's okay, and that you know, we're buying
Speaker 3: and selling them whatever kind of market, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: And the main priority right now is just to make
Speaker 2: sure we have supply. I was talking.
Speaker 3: I did an interview with Andy Sheckman from Miles Franklin
Speaker 3: on the Wise Wolf Golden Crypto show this week. We
Speaker 3: had a great conversation and you know, he reminded me, said,
Speaker 3: most people don't understand, but you do. You know that
Speaker 3: if there was massive orders right now placed for physical
Speaker 3: precious metals, that it would break the system. There would
Speaker 3: be no metals like you know, and that would dramatically
Speaker 3: change the price structure.
Speaker 2: And that's what's wrong.
Speaker 3: That's what we both agreed on is that there's something
Speaker 3: fundamentally wrong with the pricing structure of precious metals because
Speaker 3: the law of supply and demand really doesn't fit here
Speaker 3: because of the paper, because of the contracts and things
Speaker 3: that are out there. So it was I'm going to
Speaker 3: release that in the next couple of days. Is a
Speaker 3: great talk, but really that's you know, coming from somebody
Speaker 3: like Andy who has been in this for decades and
Speaker 3: with his father and just seeing just about every market.
Speaker 3: He and I both agreed the number one pressing issue
Speaker 3: was supply. It's the reason I have I'm in Texas
Speaker 3: right now, but it's the reason we have this secondary
Speaker 3: physical location. I can't see how I could do a third,
Speaker 3: but we definitely need supply. And that's the thing is
Speaker 3: just supplying wolf pack is hard. And you know, we
Speaker 3: can buy from hostsalers, but to really pass on the
Speaker 3: savings and things.
Speaker 2: It's just tough. It's tough to get supplied, it's tough
Speaker 2: to get delivered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you've always been able to do it up
Speaker 1: to this point.
Speaker 2: A great job.
Speaker 1: We've had crazy market for the last month, every week
Speaker 1: setting a couple of new all time highs and everything,
Speaker 1: so it is time that we're going to see kind
Speaker 1: of a buying opportunity. I think that's the way a
Speaker 1: lot of people might think of this, if they want
Speaker 1: to look at it for the long term in terms
Speaker 1: of wealth, insurance and that type of thing. But it's
Speaker 1: always been great talking to you and working with you, Tony. Really,
Speaker 1: do you appreciate what you do. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, sir, Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, folks. Oh, by the way, let's not forget that,
Speaker 1: Tony's got a program.
Speaker 2: Come home. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, find me yeah on Rock Fin on the America
Speaker 3: and Plug channel, Rumble on the America Plug Channel, and
Speaker 3: in my Twitter at Tony Ardimurn you can find me.
Speaker 3: There will be live here at the at eleven am Central, that's.
Speaker 1: Right right after this program Tony's program begins, and you
Speaker 1: can find them all those different places. Thank you so much, Tony.
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