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Speaker 2: I guess we'll get right to it. We now have confirmation.
Speaker 2: It has been announced that Pat Kelsey has received a
Speaker 2: contract extension. Josh Hurd spoke today. We'll let you hear
Speaker 2: some sound. I believe we have some of that and
Speaker 2: a lot that I took away from from Josh Hurt's
Speaker 2: press conference talking about a lot of things, including an
Speaker 2: emotional Josh Hurd when talking about the loss of Junior
Speaker 2: Bridgeman of course, which of course is you know, very
Speaker 2: sad thing, a guy who's very, very very impactful around here,
Speaker 2: not only as a former Louisville basketball player, but a
Speaker 2: guy that made a big impact on this community in
Speaker 2: this state. But the big takeaway today is that Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey got his extension, So the UFL Athletic Association showed
Speaker 2: their appreciation for one Pat Kelsey raising his salary by
Speaker 2: one million dollars. So he has now signed a new contract.
Speaker 2: Actually I need to get to the specifics here. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he actually I mean, you can get
Speaker 2: a raise without signing a new extent, without like signing
Speaker 2: a new deal. I don't know the specifics of it.
Speaker 2: I didn't get all that. But anyways, he's now earning
Speaker 2: three point six to three million on a contract that
Speaker 2: runs through the twenty thirty season, So I guess that
Speaker 2: is an extensioncause I don't believe his first contract that
Speaker 2: he signed unless I'm wrong, ran up until twenty thirty.
Speaker 2: So he's gone from two point three million to three
Speaker 2: point sixty three million, and the new deal also increases
Speaker 2: the incentives he's going to earn for reaching the Sweet
Speaker 2: sixteen Elite eight in Final four. And one thing I'll
Speaker 2: say that that I don't want a nitpick and I'm
Speaker 2: going to share my thoughts on this, but I want
Speaker 2: people to, like, you know, have to put on like
Speaker 2: your your listening years is that I'm going to say
Speaker 2: something that might go over your head. But I guess
Speaker 2: what you hear me say a lot like both things
Speaker 2: can be true. I understand that this is probably the
Speaker 2: best thing the university could do for Pat Kelsey as
Speaker 2: far as like financially being responsible. We know that U
Speaker 2: of L is still paying and I don't mean necessarily
Speaker 2: like I mean they're still like you know, in debt.
Speaker 2: I mean they do still have coaches on that they're paying.
Speaker 2: In fact, they paid more for can he paying to
Speaker 2: coach at Arkansas this year than they did Pat kel
Speaker 2: city coach at Louisville. So like, that sucks that that happened,
Speaker 2: but there's nothing you can really do about it. So
Speaker 2: again two things. One, I'm glad he got an extension
Speaker 2: and a raise. I understand why it's not more, But
Speaker 2: I also would be a liar if I said, hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about Pat Kelsey's new contract
Speaker 2: extension on the show today. It'll be announced right before.
Speaker 2: What number do you think it would be? I was
Speaker 2: expecting it to be much higher than three point six.
Speaker 2: That's not a criticism because again I think if they
Speaker 2: could pay them a lot more money they would. There's
Speaker 2: no doubt they love this man, Pat Kelsey. We all do.
Speaker 2: I just think when you've got me, you're still paying
Speaker 2: the price for some bad decisions that were made that
Speaker 2: you know it's in the past, but I need to
Speaker 2: dwell on it. But I think that's why you're here.
Speaker 2: You had a coach that was awful that not only
Speaker 2: you're still paying for paying a lot, but you didn't
Speaker 2: have anybody showed up for games for years. That has
Speaker 2: an impact that affects the University. Also, another factor as
Speaker 2: to why it's not more could be that you don't
Speaker 2: want to put a big conscience. I don't want to
Speaker 2: insinuate that they're reluctant to put more money out there
Speaker 2: because they don't believe in Pat Kelsey. But there may
Speaker 2: be some aspect of let's just make sure we're covering
Speaker 2: our ass this time around, because you know what, we've
Speaker 2: given some contracts out around here. Not saying Josh had
Speaker 2: anything to do with it, because honestly, you know, he's
Speaker 2: still relatively new in the position. But I mean Louisville
Speaker 2: and they're they're not alone. But you want to avoid
Speaker 2: having to pay coaches a lot of money when they're
Speaker 2: not coaching you anymore. That's why I've always thought that,
Speaker 2: like people don't realize Chris Mack did Louiville a favor
Speaker 2: by leaving and taking half when he could have absolutely
Speaker 2: stuck around and made them fire him. And it's all nonsense. No,
Speaker 2: he took the He took half because he knew they
Speaker 2: were going to maybe get caused. No, they weren't. They
Speaker 2: wanted to get caused to fire him one. I don't
Speaker 2: think they would have it. But if they did they
Speaker 2: would basically be putting themselves in further trouble with the NCAA.
Speaker 2: So anyways, pack that's the news today. Pat Kelsey did
Speaker 2: get a new extension. His salary has been bumped by
Speaker 2: one million dollars. And again, this is what I was
Speaker 2: getting to a moment ago and got sidetracked. Not only
Speaker 2: am I surprised that it's not a little bit more,
Speaker 2: but again I understand I didn't. I don't think I
Speaker 2: brought it up, but I probably should have. You know,
Speaker 2: it would have would have been out there at some point.
Speaker 2: But one of the tweets that I had, just not
Speaker 2: even thinking it would take off and get a lot
Speaker 2: of reaction and engagement. I wasn't, you know, rage baiting
Speaker 2: or anything like that. But Pat earned a twenty five
Speaker 2: thousand dollars bonus for being acc Coach of the Year
Speaker 2: and a fifty thousand dollars bonus for Louisville being an
Speaker 2: NSIBA tournament comparatively speaking, And I'll pull it up later
Speaker 2: because I want to reference it. And this is not
Speaker 2: to be critical. Again, I want to be clear. This
Speaker 2: is just talking numbers, and when some of the numbers
Speaker 2: are surprising like they are, to me. It does not
Speaker 2: take long for me to realize, oh yeah, that does
Speaker 2: make sense. The university's athletic department is not exactly in
Speaker 2: a great position because they're still paying the price for
Speaker 2: some previous mistakes that some of the people aren't even
Speaker 2: here anymore that made those decisions. But also you're about
Speaker 2: to have to start paying twenty million dollars annually to
Speaker 2: share revenue. So there's a lot of factors in it.
Speaker 2: But the new coach, I think it's at Florida State.
Speaker 2: He has I don't know what his contract is as
Speaker 2: far as his salary, but somebody when I posted that
Speaker 2: Pat got a twenty five thousand dollars bonus for ACC
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year. The other incentives for that same
Speaker 2: award within the conference is like sometimes I mean ten
Speaker 2: times as much like you'll take whatever right. And Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey when he took this job, was not worried about
Speaker 2: probably getting a deal that made him one of the
Speaker 2: highest paid coaches in the sport because he was getting
Speaker 2: a life changing raise as is by just making two
Speaker 2: point three million at at Louisville. I don't want to
Speaker 2: say maybe I shouldn't say life changing, but obviously he
Speaker 2: was gonna make a big bump in paid by going
Speaker 2: from Charleston to Louisville. We all know that, so he probably,
Speaker 2: you know, understood, like, hey, one, I probably and clearly
Speaker 2: wasn't the first choice. But I'm getting the opportunity. And
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why Pat Kelsey was so
Speaker 2: successful in your one, because for him, he believes in himself.
Speaker 2: He knows he's got the formula, he knows he's a
Speaker 2: good coach, and he can be successful. And all he
Speaker 2: needed was the opportunity and he got it. So I
Speaker 2: doubt he was really overly concerned about any of the incentives.
Speaker 2: But like twenty five thousand dollars per winning ACC Basketball
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year, I mean, that's I didn't realize it. Again,
Speaker 2: I learned after sharing that that's insane. Like anybody else
Speaker 2: that gets that that kind of and I shouldn't say anybody,
Speaker 2: but I'll try my best to check and see if
Speaker 2: I can find some references. But I think like the
Speaker 2: majority that like win that award in football or basketball,
Speaker 2: like a lot of them are getting like quarter of
Speaker 2: a million dollars. My MANPK got twenty five grand like that. Again,
Speaker 2: I get it. You aren't in a position to go
Speaker 2: out here and just be throwing a ton of money
Speaker 2: just to do it, because you know, you got to
Speaker 2: be mindful of what you spend and to be fair.
Speaker 2: When you hired Pat Kelce as much as he came
Speaker 2: in here and stole the show right when he showed
Speaker 2: up to town and gave us the press conference, one
Speaker 2: of the reasons that was an obvious one is that
Speaker 2: you could get him and he would be cheaper than
Speaker 2: if you were able to somehow convince you know, Scott
Speaker 2: Drew to leave Baylor, which again we all know it
Speaker 2: worked out well, and I'm excited about the future. I
Speaker 2: just know that there's going to be some that are thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, why is it? You know, why did he
Speaker 2: not get a bigger bump than that? And I'll be direct,
Speaker 2: I don't really know why fans care what money coaches
Speaker 2: make because it's not your money. I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: you know, even whenever they're asking for money for nil,
Speaker 2: that's not going to a coach, So I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: I hope Pat Kelsey and I know he is going
Speaker 2: to be able to take care of his family with
Speaker 2: the amount of money he's going to make to coach Louisville.
Speaker 2: I know he's going to be doing just fine, but
Speaker 2: like I never have really like it's I'm not sitting
Speaker 2: here thinking like Dearne, they should have gave him more. However,
Speaker 2: I do understand, although I'm not totally on the same page,
Speaker 2: there are fans that just understand what Louisville basketball is
Speaker 2: and that I don't care who you hire, it's Louisville's
Speaker 2: basketball job. It's a big deal. Like starting pay is,
Speaker 2: you know, four million, and again that's probably not smart
Speaker 2: to do because you, you know, especially if you hire
Speaker 2: a coach like Pat who really had proven to be successful,
Speaker 2: but he was coming up from Charleston, and again, you
Speaker 2: weren't in a position to go out there and make
Speaker 2: somebody the highest paid coach in college basketball or one
Speaker 2: of them. So again, three point three million, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Three point six is the current three point six to
Speaker 2: three million is the new salary for Pat Kelsey. He
Speaker 2: did get a raise and an extension and more incentives,
Speaker 2: and that's good news. It's all good news. But when
Speaker 2: you look up the highest paid coaches in college basketball
Speaker 2: right now, this list was updated less than a month
Speaker 2: ago from USA today. So just to give you the
Speaker 2: top five highest paid coaches sparse total pay, Bill self
Speaker 2: is number one. Caliperio at Arkansas's number two, Dan Hurley
Speaker 2: at Yukon number three, Tom Izzo at Michigan State number four.
Speaker 2: Mick Cronin is the fifth highest paid coach at UCLA.
Speaker 2: What a waste of money. But anyways, Bill self is
Speaker 2: eight point eight million, Cal has eight even, but he's
Speaker 2: got a lot of incentives. Dan Hurley seven point seven million,
Speaker 2: Tom Izzo six point one million, Mick Cronin six point
Speaker 2: one million. But Izzo's got some, you know, a little bit,
Speaker 2: little bit of a little bit of a bump compared
Speaker 2: to a little bit more than Cronin has. So when
Speaker 2: you hear that number, that salary meaning eight eight, seven,
Speaker 2: six and six is the top five, and you hear
Speaker 2: Pat is now getting three point six where would you
Speaker 2: all guess he ranks. I'm gonna give you a second
Speaker 2: thing about it now. I'm not gonna, like, you know,
Speaker 2: do trivia here, but this is the one thing that
Speaker 2: again I'm not even being critical, just an observation. Again,
Speaker 2: it's not my money. Pat clearly is cool with it
Speaker 2: because he agreed to it. It's awesome, but he is
Speaker 2: still not one of the top forty highest paid coaches
Speaker 2: in college basketball. And again, everybody's cool with it. Ufl
Speaker 2: offered it, he accepted it. He's locked in great stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just Louisville Basketball paying less for their coach than Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: than Arizona State, than Iowa State, than Clemson, than Penn State.
Speaker 2: Then you know Missouri. I mean, I guess I could
Speaker 2: mention schools like Missouri and Nebraska and Illinois, but it
Speaker 2: even old miss But let's be real, those schools have
Speaker 2: a boatload of money just for being in the Big
Speaker 2: ten in the SEC. So good news. They did give
Speaker 2: Hi an extension, he did get more money, and everybody
Speaker 2: seems to be happy, or they wouldn't have, you know,
Speaker 2: followed through with it. It's just I'm a little surprised
Speaker 2: that that, you know, he's not viewed, because I think
Speaker 2: there is something to be said about two things. One,
Speaker 2: you gotta be mind. You can't just promise somebody a
Speaker 2: bunch of money that you don't have, right like. You
Speaker 2: got to be to manage your finances and understand what
Speaker 2: you can and can't afford. And I think giving him
Speaker 2: an extension after one year is certainly a sign of
Speaker 2: good faith. And I think Pat knows that he's loved
Speaker 2: around here, and he probably understands that because of those
Speaker 2: that came before him, they would be paying him more,
Speaker 2: but they're just not in a position to do so.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, like Fred Hoiberg at Nebraska's making
Speaker 2: four point seven million, Jamie Dixon at TCU, they're in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. He's making more than a million than Patt.
Speaker 2: And look, I know a lot of these coaches, even
Speaker 2: if they don't have a lot of momentum right now,
Speaker 2: they have a lot of juice like they have been
Speaker 2: successful to an extent. And some will say, well, Pat,
Speaker 2: I didn't want a tournament game, and you're right, he hasn't.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know what the bank
Speaker 2: account looks like for U of L. So again, I
Speaker 2: just I guess more than anything. I'll give you two
Speaker 2: quick thoughts before we take our first break, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure these are in fact, I know these are things
Speaker 2: that I've kind of already said already, but just just
Speaker 2: to kind of wrap up the segment and then we'll
Speaker 2: let you guys react to it. And again, if you know,
Speaker 2: if you've got strong opinions on it, you can share it.
Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you my I'm just giving you
Speaker 2: my takeaways to be clear. Disclaimer. It's not my money
Speaker 2: and Pat's Pat agreed to it. The school gave him
Speaker 2: a bump, so everybody's good. But I do think there
Speaker 2: is something to be said about, like, you know, you
Speaker 2: value basketball, so you pay this, but but you can't
Speaker 2: just you know, create money out of thin air that
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. So you know, I just hope that next
Speaker 2: year if in fact, like he I don't know, I'm
Speaker 2: overthinking it because that's what I do. That's my nature.
Speaker 2: It's one of my biggest weaknesses as a human being.
Speaker 2: I overthink everything in life, and this isn't something I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be losing sleepover. But you know, if this was
Speaker 2: the best offer and Pat took it, I'm assuming that
Speaker 2: he's cool, he's happy, he's ready to roll. But let's
Speaker 2: be real, if any job opened up that wanted him,
Speaker 2: they would have offered damn near double of what Louisville
Speaker 2: is now paying him. So I just hope that, like
Speaker 2: deep down, he's understanding and he's not about you know,
Speaker 2: he's not just here to to to you know, create
Speaker 2: generational wealth. Because I think from when I know about
Speaker 2: Pat and I would never claim to know him on
Speaker 2: a personal level, but from what I know, he has
Speaker 2: enough belief in himself and his system and and and
Speaker 2: you know him him having success to where it'll all
Speaker 2: work out in the long run. I just hope that,
Speaker 2: like the money all working out in the long run
Speaker 2: includes it being here at Louisville. I don't know, Austin,
Speaker 2: were you at all, Like, did you have any Again,
Speaker 2: it's not our money, We're not spending it. I just again,
Speaker 2: if if you can't afford it, you can't afford It's
Speaker 2: one of the biggest issues people have in life, like
Speaker 2: they they spend outside of their means. It's just when
Speaker 2: I thought that this, when I knew that this was happening,
Speaker 2: I would have expected I don't know, this is this
Speaker 2: is going to sound stupid, and I say a lot
Speaker 2: of stupid things. I'll stay I'll say many more stupid
Speaker 2: things the rest of the way. But it kind of
Speaker 2: to me seemed a little bit like, well, Okay, that's
Speaker 2: the best you can do. That's the best you can do.
Speaker 2: But it's like almost like why bother, like, why don't
Speaker 2: you just wait till next year, maybe you can save
Speaker 2: up some more money. And because there's gonna be players
Speaker 2: in college basketball and this isn't going to be that rare,
Speaker 2: but just an example. And I know when I hammer it, it
Speaker 2: sounds like I'm criticizing. It's just the times we're in
Speaker 2: the top end. Kid who's coming back from Texas Tech
Speaker 2: for another year, the belief is that he's going to
Speaker 2: make three and a half million, he'll basically make the
Speaker 2: same amount of money to play college basketball Texas Tech
Speaker 2: for a year that Louisville's paying Pat Kelsey. And again
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's an issue. They've got to fix it.
Speaker 2: It's just surprising. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Now I'm right up your alley, and when you mentioned
Speaker 4: that right before we got on air, I was just
Speaker 4: expecting like a little more to hold you over for
Speaker 4: a few years, not just like a low increase. Because
Speaker 4: I'm with you, then just should have just done it
Speaker 4: next year, because now we're going to go into next
Speaker 4: year and let's say something happens and Louisville has a
Speaker 4: decent first weekend in tournament or they make it a
Speaker 4: pretty substantial run in the tournament, then all we're gonna
Speaker 4: hear about during the coaching openings is is with Pat
Speaker 4: Kelsey gonna eye somewhere else and he's he's not gonna
Speaker 4: seem like he's locked down in my opinion, So I
Speaker 4: guess I'm already looking forward towards that aspect of thinking like, oh, no,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to do the same thing that we
Speaker 4: did this year next year and just deal with that
Speaker 4: until they literally drop a lottery bag on them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and I think if this is something you
Speaker 2: gotta do annually, just because you're still trying to get
Speaker 2: the bank account a little bit more healthy as you
Speaker 2: as you make you know, as you make progress and
Speaker 2: make steps, that's great. But like I just assumed that, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, here we go, he's he's he's locked in.
Speaker 2: I just I would have thought at minimum, we're talking
Speaker 2: four point three and I can't. I know, it sounds
Speaker 2: like I'm disappointed, but again, like it's not my money,
Speaker 2: I don't care. Pat's cool with it, then great. I
Speaker 2: just you know, if there would have been a contrary
Speaker 2: extension that would have been between four and five, I
Speaker 2: would have felt like, Okay, he's locked in and he's
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. And I still believe that, trust me,
Speaker 2: I do, But you know, it is still something that
Speaker 2: from a fan aspect, we know what Louisville brings more
Speaker 2: than just the salary. If you're the basketball coach, man,
Speaker 2: it's I mean, there's a lot that comes with it,
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure, clearly we've learned that, a lot
Speaker 2: of expectation. But I think he's somebody that's kind of
Speaker 2: shown he's built for that. He'll embrace it, and clearly
Speaker 2: he'll win. He did that so far. But I just
Speaker 2: I don't know if he does really really good next
Speaker 2: year and Louisville is in fact a top ten type team,
Speaker 2: like a lot of folks are projecting that they are,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure they're going to be, but like,
Speaker 2: if they do end up in that position, I do
Speaker 2: believe it'll be the first time ever that it's a
Speaker 2: talking point that Louisville will need to substantially upgrade their
Speaker 2: coach's salary or other schools for the first time ever
Speaker 2: will realize we can go double that dude's pay and
Speaker 2: he will know that Louisll's a better job than us.
Speaker 2: But we got Big ten money, we got SEC money,
Speaker 2: and as a fan, again we get caught up in
Speaker 2: like our own bubble. But this is a job to Pat.
Speaker 2: This is how he makes a living. And think about
Speaker 2: you having, you know, you being able to potentially turn
Speaker 2: down doubling your salary. Who would do that? Not many people.
Speaker 2: So again I believe that if he continues to succeed,
Speaker 2: they're going to continue to understand they got to keep
Speaker 2: coming with more money because he's earning that and this
Speaker 2: is a business, and other schools will in fact give
Speaker 2: him that. I think everybody knows that. It's just you know,
Speaker 2: I guess more than anything, I'm a little bit like
Speaker 2: It's just it's the realization that financially, this is how
Speaker 2: strapped you are. Because again we all know Louisville values basketball.
Speaker 2: This year was proof how important it is for Louisville
Speaker 2: basketball to be successful, for the university, for the athletic department,
Speaker 2: and for this city. And Pat brought us that in
Speaker 2: year one. Was awesome And I don't see that changing
Speaker 2: any point. But I don't know, it's just the reality
Speaker 2: that there. I mean, And again this isn't new information.
Speaker 2: We've talked about this, not for just a few months
Speaker 2: for a long time, for years really that the SEC
Speaker 2: and the Big ten they live in a different neighborhood
Speaker 2: than everybody else. They got bigger homes, they got bigger,
Speaker 2: they got more uh, they got more acres, right, they
Speaker 2: got they got an extra garage and there's nothing you
Speaker 2: can do about that if you're Louisville. So I believe
Speaker 2: this is the best they could do as far as
Speaker 2: being responsible, and that's that's that's just the situation that
Speaker 2: you're in. I just I think this guy's been so
Speaker 2: phenomenal and I think he is the perfect fit for us.
Speaker 2: And to be clear, I do not see a scenario
Speaker 2: where like he's not our coach in a few years.
Speaker 2: I mean, you never know, but let's just be real
Speaker 2: about it. If he continues to have success, they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to continue doing this, and if it is these
Speaker 2: gradual bumps, that's gonna be noted and there'll be other
Speaker 2: schools that realize, we never thought in a billion years
Speaker 2: we'd be able to go get Louisville's basketball coach, are
Speaker 2: you kid me? And they probably won't be able to,
Speaker 2: but they'll look at what he's making and say, we could,
Speaker 2: we could triple his pay. So again, if Louisville could
Speaker 2: do that, they would, I know it, because we know
Speaker 2: they value basketball. They have to. So here are some
Speaker 2: incentives of the deal for those of you that Yeah,
Speaker 2: So he's still getting the same twenty five K for
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year, He's getting fifty K for National
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year, fifty K for ACC regular season.
Speaker 2: So again, a lot of his like ACC tournament champs
Speaker 2: that's a fifty thousand dollars bonus, instead of a tournament
Speaker 2: appearance that's a fifty thousand dollars bonus. So the ones
Speaker 2: that are that have changed is if Louisville makes the
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen, he'll get a two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars base increase and he can get that up to
Speaker 2: two times. You make the Elite eight, he's getting three
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars increase, and you can get that up
Speaker 2: to two times. So I mean just a I mean,
Speaker 2: there's I'm looking at the document that Dusty Baker over
Speaker 2: at Wave three posted that just has the picture of it,
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to it's it's definitely full of incentives
Speaker 2: to where like if Louisville is as good as they
Speaker 2: need to be. Like if Louisville ends up next year
Speaker 2: making the final four or even the Elite eight, like
Speaker 2: he's gonna get, He's gonna get, you know, a couple
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars added for the Elite eight, quarter million
Speaker 2: added for the final four. And again, the more I
Speaker 2: look at the numbers and I'm spending on wheels here,
Speaker 2: trust me, I know, I just think every part of
Speaker 2: this entire thing, from the three point six base to
Speaker 2: some of the incentives staying the same, some of the
Speaker 2: incentives going up, but not that much. It's got to
Speaker 2: just be the best they can do. And that is
Speaker 2: not surprising when you really consider the recent years here
Speaker 2: at U of L. But it also doesn't scare me,
Speaker 2: like I'm not going to be you know, nervous about it.
Speaker 2: But it's just, you know, long story short, we got
Speaker 2: a great coach where I hope is here for a
Speaker 2: long time. I believe will be here for a long time.
Speaker 2: I believe he will have a lot of success here.
Speaker 2: It's just with the financial component because you still have
Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, sit in the mess that
Speaker 2: was made by the previous hires and whatnot. It's just
Speaker 2: an unprecedented thing to know that if a school really wanted,
Speaker 2: they could double your coach's salary. And I would hope
Speaker 2: that he would turn it down, but like if he didn't,
Speaker 2: we'd be all sad and you'd be devastating. But like, again,
Speaker 2: this is his job. Would you turn down a chance
Speaker 2: to double your salary? So again, best they could do.
Speaker 2: It's a situation we're in. All in all, it's still
Speaker 2: a good piece of news. But I do believe the
Speaker 2: more and I haven't even seen the reaction just yet,
Speaker 2: and we'll get Yarl's reaction to it as well. I
Speaker 2: think it's going to be a talking point, like Louisville
Speaker 2: could do that. Louisville, that's all they could do. In fact,
Speaker 2: i'm reading here from Dusty's tweet that shows the the
Speaker 2: breakdown of his base pay and the incentives, the performance
Speaker 2: bonuses and all that, and you know, everybody's chiming in
Speaker 2: and saying, like, cannot believe it's that low. He deserves
Speaker 2: more than that, should have been a lot more. And
Speaker 2: again these are just people on Twitter, like you know,
Speaker 2: who are you know, just you know, humans on the
Speaker 2: internet or bots on the internet. I don't know. So
Speaker 2: there's way more than any of us would ever know
Speaker 2: as far as like the finances. And again, I just
Speaker 2: maybe this is what they Maybe they got a boatload
Speaker 2: of money. We don't know about it. They just say, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was good enough for a little bit of a bump,
Speaker 2: but we need more. Pat like, maybe that's their approach,
Speaker 2: but I doubt it. I think they realize they want
Speaker 2: this guy forever. But this is probably just the best
Speaker 2: they can do. And if Louisville keeps succeeding, that'll help
Speaker 2: you get out of the financial situation you're into where
Speaker 2: you can then put a little bit more money towards
Speaker 2: the coach and keep him happy. Who knows, maybe Pat
Speaker 2: told him, Look, if you've got to, if you're out
Speaker 2: here rounding up funds to get me, to get me
Speaker 2: a big bump, just you know, take care of me
Speaker 2: a little bit, keep rounding up that money. Put it
Speaker 2: towards nil. I'm gonna build a team. Like maybe he's
Speaker 2: doing that. We're in We're in a new world here,
Speaker 2: so trust me, there's coaches that have taken some steps
Speaker 2: back as far as what they earn because they know
Speaker 2: they need that money to go get good teams or
Speaker 2: they won't be successful and have the job in the
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Speaker 2: Montgomery alongside. As as we've discussed throughout the first thirty
Speaker 2: minutes or so today, Pat Kelsey did get an extension
Speaker 2: and did get a raise. He's making now three point
Speaker 2: six million dollars and easily the most money that he's
Speaker 2: that he's ever made as a basketball coach, unless you know,
Speaker 2: somehow Winthrop and Charleston were paying more than I would
Speaker 2: have ever imagined. So good news all the way around.
Speaker 2: And we did have somebody that called in during the
Speaker 2: break that wanted to mention that Rick Patino at Saint
Speaker 2: John's also is making I guess, relatively the same. Might
Speaker 2: in fact, Beatino might have been making less than Pat
Speaker 2: And you know, good observation. And you know that's whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not super relevant. But for Rick, like
Speaker 2: if there's somebody that says, well, hey, that you know,
Speaker 2: expecting pat to be paid in the four to five
Speaker 2: range is crazy because Rick's only making three. Well, you
Speaker 2: gotta keep in mind, Rick, is it Saint John's where
Speaker 2: they really don't I mean, first of all, Rick doesn't
Speaker 2: need any money, and also Saint John's doesn't have much money.
Speaker 2: I mean, in fact, he was able to get them
Speaker 2: to I mean he brought Rick, brought Saint John's money
Speaker 2: for him to go buy players like they didn't have it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So a little bit of
Speaker 2: a different situation, and he was coming from my own,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's just totally different situation. So my
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway is that for PK to still not be
Speaker 2: in the top forty, you know, someone will say, well, okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine, he's never even won a tournament game fair enough,
Speaker 2: But like, you know, I just think this year, for
Speaker 2: him being a legitimate National Coach of the Year candidate
Speaker 2: ACC Coach of the Year a program like Louisville, you would,
Speaker 2: if I would, I expected him to just you know,
Speaker 2: put him in the top fifteen to twenty just because
Speaker 2: we're Louisville. But clearly you can't just do it because
Speaker 2: you want to. You got to have the money. And
Speaker 2: I don't want to act like it's nothing but poverty,
Speaker 2: and you know, everybody's broke at U of L. But
Speaker 2: clearly they are still paying for the mistakes made that
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to dwell on them, but
Speaker 2: like they're still paying They were still paying Chris Mack
Speaker 2: until just recently. They're still paying Kenny Payne, not only
Speaker 2: this this season that just ended, but next season. So
Speaker 2: that's I mean, yeah, it's somebody's fault down the line,
Speaker 2: but like it is what it is, and that's why
Speaker 2: you're here now. One thing that is just insane to
Speaker 2: think about. And I'm sure this is not something that
Speaker 2: anybody cares about, but I got to be honest with
Speaker 2: He's just one of those things that that really really
Speaker 2: just is wild. Jeff Cable. He still makes more money
Speaker 2: than By the way, this is from the best wage
Speaker 2: or Twitter account, they pointed out, Jeff Cable still gets
Speaker 2: paid more early than Pat Kelsey, Mark few tj Alzolberger
Speaker 2: and Brad Brownwell, and all I want to know is
Speaker 2: who is Jeff Caple's agent. I know Pittsburgh just recently
Speaker 2: went through a change in leadership with athletics. They got
Speaker 2: a new ad. I'm sure there's a variety of factors
Speaker 2: that went into that, but one of them has to
Speaker 2: be whoever gave Jeff Caple a contract that pays him
Speaker 2: that much money? Because you know, Pitt's not. I mean,
Speaker 2: there are certain schools that you look at here as
Speaker 2: far as what they pay their coach, and it might
Speaker 2: surprise you because of you know, where they are as
Speaker 2: far as the program, like not really notable, like Nebraska.
Speaker 2: Nebraska has never won an NCAA tournament game. Never weren't
Speaker 2: they the school that we determine like poverty, like they've
Speaker 2: theyvant Yeah, like they've never won a tournament game. But
Speaker 2: they pay their coach a top fifteen salary, and I
Speaker 2: think it's because they simply have the money to do so,
Speaker 2: because they're in the Big Ten and they bring in
Speaker 2: a ton of money in football. So Nebraska in a
Speaker 2: top fifteen job as far as salary is crazy. But again,
Speaker 2: these two, these two conferences, as I mentioned earlier, they
Speaker 2: are in different neighborhoods, They have a lot more money
Speaker 2: to use. They got money. They're just throwing money around
Speaker 2: because they can. So I shouldn't do this because I'm
Speaker 2: getting distracted, and I'm sure it's not making for good
Speaker 2: radio at all. But just looking through the list here,
Speaker 2: like other like at Rutgers, Steve Pakeel, he's making three
Speaker 2: point eight, Jerome Tang three point seven. Kevin Keats is
Speaker 2: three point six, but obviously he got fired. Dusty made
Speaker 2: three point six, Todd Golden's making three point six. I
Speaker 2: bet he gets a raised because clearly, you know they're
Speaker 2: in the SEC they can aboard it. And he just
Speaker 2: won a national championship. So Nico medved too, who just
Speaker 2: went to Minnesota? Correct, yes, what did he get? They
Speaker 2: dropped the bag on him.
Speaker 4: He's his first year, is going to earn three million
Speaker 4: with annual raises of one hundred thousand or yeah, one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars each season at the Gophers Advance. If
Speaker 4: the Gophers achieve certain milestones such as making the NCAA tournament,
Speaker 4: may receive contract extension. Prior to this, he had a
Speaker 4: contract extension with Colorado State, where he was at one
Speaker 4: point seven million for all last season.
Speaker 2: Is there anything in there? And if there's not, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me, but I just thought I'd ask if
Speaker 2: he is to win the Big Ten Coach of the Year,
Speaker 2: is there is there like is it mentioned any like
Speaker 2: incentive for that?
Speaker 4: Let me look because I was just looking on the
Speaker 4: Google AI think because automatically came.
Speaker 2: Up that's one that like it's not a huge deal.
Speaker 2: And again you'll hear me mention this over and over
Speaker 2: because I don't want it to be misconstrued as if
Speaker 2: I'm saying Louisville made a mistake here, because again I
Speaker 2: don't know this, but I believe that they would pay
Speaker 2: this man a lot more if they could. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that they're just okay, yeah, decent season, Pat,
Speaker 2: Let's see what else you got. I mean, maybe that's
Speaker 2: the case. I don't know. I'm not talking to Josh Hurt.
Speaker 2: I don't know what goes into these situation, these these decisions.
Speaker 2: But the twenty five thousand annually for winning ACC Coach
Speaker 2: of the Year, I just I feel like that's insanely
Speaker 2: low for anybody else, And it's really not that important,
Speaker 2: but it's just it's one of those things that stands
Speaker 2: out that I think really kind of just floors me
Speaker 2: a little bit that that's the financial situation ul Hoops
Speaker 2: is in. Now, somebody brings up a really good point
Speaker 2: that you know, does have you kind of questioning if
Speaker 2: this list is legit. But yesterday, or maybe it was
Speaker 2: the day before, Yeah, the Forbes list came out as
Speaker 2: far as the most valuable college basketball programs in the country,
Speaker 2: and Louisville came in at number five, so you know
Speaker 2: when you see that, but again, you're still in debt essentially,
Speaker 2: like you're paying for three coaches essentially, And I think
Speaker 2: Mac is off the books now, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: It might be one more year, but you're still paying
Speaker 2: Kenny Payne. You were paying Mac for a while. So yeah,
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty million, that's a big evaluation. That
Speaker 2: puts you fifth in the country, behind only Carolina, Duke, Indiana,
Speaker 2: and Ohio State. But also, you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: those programs probably aren't paying that many coaches at one time.
Speaker 2: And then of course we've got on the text lines
Speaker 2: some folks mentioning this. You know, fundraising has been an
Speaker 2: issue since Sturrich left. And maybe I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: you're right, maybe you're onto something, But I again, I
Speaker 2: in no way do I think that today's news is
Speaker 2: worthy of like criticism. And look, you can be critical
Speaker 2: if you want. I just can mean from my position,
Speaker 2: it just you know, that's the best they can do.
Speaker 2: Then it's just a reminder that you're still paying for
Speaker 2: the mess that was made with the kinny Payne higher,
Speaker 2: and honestly, you're I guess grateful that Chris Mick left
Speaker 2: and decided to just say, hey, give me this and
Speaker 2: I'm out, because most coaches wouldn't do that. By the way,
Speaker 2: speaking of the other programs here, as far as the
Speaker 2: most valuable, this is according to the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 2: I mentioned Carolina, Duke, Indiana, Ohio State, and Louisville being
Speaker 2: the top five. Number six is Arizona, seven, Syracuse, eight Illinois, nine, Kentucky,
Speaker 2: ten Arkansas, and then rounding out the top fifteen is Kansas, Michigan,
Speaker 2: Michigan State, Yukon. And then I tell you what number
Speaker 2: fifteen is the most random. I would have never guessed
Speaker 2: it program Minnesota. I mean, were they getting their money?
Speaker 2: Like Ben Johnson was his name. I think he just
Speaker 2: got fired, Like they weren't good, Like what are they?
Speaker 2: How are they bringing in that kind of money? Like
Speaker 2: they don't even I mean, Minnesota's up there as far
Speaker 2: as like one of the one of the really random,
Speaker 2: like forever unsuccessful programs. Yeah, and that's why whenever we
Speaker 2: talked about Nico Medved taking that job and then Richard
Speaker 2: Battino rising once again to now get the Xavier job
Speaker 2: like nobody has won at Minnesota in like ever forever.
Speaker 2: The one guy that did turns out he was cheating
Speaker 2: his ass off and they had to fake k there're
Speaker 2: earlead eight.
Speaker 4: So well, Ben Johnson was only making a million less
Speaker 4: than what Medved will be making. Ben Johnson basically made
Speaker 4: a million dollars less last year than what Niko will
Speaker 4: be making in his first year this year. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: where he's at three million? Ben Johnson was at two
Speaker 4: million for last season.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to find the coach here in the
Speaker 2: top in these rankings that just seems like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think I may have found him, honestly, as far
Speaker 2: as the coach where you're scratching your head like, huh,
Speaker 2: how can you justify paying that this guy's got to
Speaker 2: be caple? But he's not really, you know, he's he's
Speaker 2: barely above Pat. Like for just just to be clear,
Speaker 2: he's making three point five to nine million caple as
Speaker 2: Pat's gonna now be at three point sixty three. So
Speaker 2: for those of you that missed it earlier, three point
Speaker 2: six y three. That puts Pat Kelsey as is it
Speaker 2: three point sixty three or did I have it wrong?
Speaker 2: Let me double check here because it is important. I
Speaker 2: may have misspoke as far as what actually the toe
Speaker 2: is for uh for Pat, let me see. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: his bump puts him at three point sixty three, so
Speaker 2: I misspoke. He is he is in the top forty,
Speaker 2: but not let me see at three point sixty three,
Speaker 2: he is at number thirty thirty two. So there you go.
Speaker 2: And I mean, it's still nice to have a h
Speaker 2: I think, I think, yeah, I think he said he
Speaker 2: wasn't in the top forty, but I many I should
Speaker 2: have said he wasn't in the top thirty. So I
Speaker 2: misspoke on that. But it is I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is. And I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: speak something into existence, because you know that's not what
Speaker 2: I would do. But is it a coincidence that he
Speaker 2: just jumped ahead of Dusty May here? Like Dusty May
Speaker 2: was thirty second, Now Pat Kelsey's thirty second, Dusty May's
Speaker 2: thirty third was that planned out? You know, I doubt
Speaker 2: that Dusty May is on anybody's mind, but I do know.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was really one of the many
Speaker 2: things Pat Kelsey said when he got hired that stood
Speaker 2: out to me that I was just really you know,
Speaker 2: in pre with is not only how he delivered and
Speaker 2: sold himself and and you know he as they say,
Speaker 2: he killed the press conference, but he was very much
Speaker 2: self aware and like leaned into knowing that he wasn't
Speaker 2: Scott Drew and he was in Dusty May. Like he
Speaker 2: brought those guys' names up when he was introduced, which
Speaker 2: again I think that speaks to somebody who doesn't take
Speaker 2: themselves too seriously and somebody who you know is not
Speaker 2: gonna you know, he gets it. Hey, I'm here to
Speaker 2: show you guys what I can do. So it's a
Speaker 2: great point. Yeah, I h I realized looking at other
Speaker 2: I mean, I here we are talking about a guy
Speaker 2: making three point six and I'm not the only one.
Speaker 2: Others have said like it. I'm surprised it's not higher.
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine making three point six million
Speaker 2: a year be a great life? You don't now, I'm
Speaker 2: just under that. I'm trying to get I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get there. But I still I think my next contract here,
Speaker 2: they'll probably bump me up around that. Lets me do
Speaker 2: something neot That's what I'm expecting.
Speaker 4: Let me, let me, let me look at that next contract,
Speaker 4: just to make Yeah, I'll put it on your desk
Speaker 4: before I put pen to paper, just to make because
Speaker 4: I got to have you making sure I'm getting taken
Speaker 4: care of. I studied law in a episode of Law
Speaker 4: and Orders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, you know, you know contracts. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, we'll come back and wrap at the three
Speaker 2: o'clock hour. I uh, I have nothing on the Masters,
Speaker 2: which is we're great tease, right, But I'm just being transparent.
Speaker 2: Like the Masters in golf. It's the one thing where
Speaker 2: I really get fomo because I just, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know much about golf. In fact, when I say
Speaker 2: I don't know much, I don't know anything. And yet
Speaker 2: the Masters it's like the one of the biggest events
Speaker 2: in sports, and I'm seeing everybody talk about it. But
Speaker 2: like Harry, I'm admitting that I'm unqualified to do my
Speaker 2: job when it comes to golf. I have the Master's
Speaker 2: on right now. Shout out the Master's quick break, keep
Speaker 2: a loocked out here on sport Stock seven ninety. We
Speaker 2: are putting the finishing touches here on knees first hour
Speaker 2: of three, that's right, three hours today, which usually is
Speaker 2: what we do, but it'll be seven hours for me,
Speaker 2: and I I mean, don't ever say I don't work hard, right,
Speaker 2: And I you know, hope you guys can sense sarcasm,
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm sure I'll be on air for
Speaker 2: seven hours today and you guys will be working eight
Speaker 2: hours or more of doing something that is probably you know,
Speaker 2: something that you hate. And I don't say that till, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure there are some people out there
Speaker 2: that love their job. But I'm lucky. I'm fortunate. I mean,
Speaker 2: don't tell anybody, but I do this for free. I
Speaker 2: mean I wouldn't. My wife would probably leave me because
Speaker 2: you know, I got to contribute to the family. I
Speaker 2: got kids to defeat, but good stuff thus far. Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey got his extension. The Masters are going on, and
Speaker 2: that's all I can tell you about golf. Austin and
Speaker 2: I have talked about a lot of things during our
Speaker 2: year's long friendship, a lot of things on the show,
Speaker 2: A lot of things we wouldn't be allowed to talk
Speaker 2: about on the show. We've never talked golf. I think, ever,
Speaker 2: are you a golf guy in any way? Like like
Speaker 2: I want to be so bad to play or to
Speaker 2: keep up with like you know what's going on in.
Speaker 4: Golf A little bit of both, because I think it
Speaker 4: goes hand in hand.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm out on both. Like I just and
Speaker 2: I don't say like I'm too good for it. I
Speaker 2: just I tried golf. I suck at it. I'm not
Speaker 2: good at playing. If I'm going to play a sport
Speaker 2: that I'm really bad at, it's not fun because I
Speaker 2: would just be really mad at myself because I'm super
Speaker 2: competitive internally. So like, I just I've tried golf exactly.
Speaker 2: What about like do you keep up? Like do you
Speaker 2: watch golf like the big tournaments? I know what's going on,
Speaker 2: Like at this point, I'll have it on and like
Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to pass a test here, I'm
Speaker 2: just I'm asking you because I'm I'm willing to be
Speaker 2: transparent and say I don't know anything about golf.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it just all started as I've
Speaker 4: just gotten in my thirties the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: and I think it took my first time going to
Speaker 4: top golf and I'm like, you know what, this kind
Speaker 4: of fun. I've never swung a golf club. I well,
Speaker 4: actually I have. I did when my mom used to
Speaker 4: work at the what's called the Eagles Nest out on
Speaker 4: a David S. Motth And Air Force Base and Tucson, Arizona.
Speaker 4: Shout Shout out the Eagles Nest dm AFB where I
Speaker 4: grew up, my stomping grounds, the bad, bad streets of
Speaker 4: a military base.
Speaker 2: But they're bill different over there out here.
Speaker 4: She was, you know't you don't want to get caught
Speaker 4: lurking on a military base. But I would always you know,
Speaker 4: I was a chubby kid. I would always walk up
Speaker 4: to her to her work, and they knew that I
Speaker 4: got free food. And that also meant that I had
Speaker 4: to stay there because I didn't want to walk back,
Speaker 4: so I had to stay there and wait for her
Speaker 4: to get off. So I would just go down to
Speaker 4: where the pro shop was, and the guys knew that
Speaker 4: I was a Patty's son, so they just give me
Speaker 4: the bucket of balls, let me go out to the
Speaker 4: driving range. And that's how I got to do that.
Speaker 4: When I was a little kid. I was never good
Speaker 4: at it then, but I always thought that it was cool.
Speaker 4: But now when you go out and do it, like
Speaker 4: you said, it's a very internal competitiveness. And even Michael
Speaker 4: Jordan has said it. When you play golf, you're really
Speaker 4: playing yourself, of course, and there's nothing more frustrated because
Speaker 4: once you get out onto like a huge golf course
Speaker 4: like that and you realize, Okay, I got to get
Speaker 4: this ball all the way over there, just only using
Speaker 4: this stick, and it's like and it doesn't always just
Speaker 4: go straight, and like it's not like the Tiger Woods
Speaker 4: where you can aim at yourself. I don't know how
Speaker 4: people do that, because I played with my fiance's brothers
Speaker 4: are amazing at it. He's uh, he's always going on
Speaker 4: business trips during golf, and he knows how to fade stuff,
Speaker 4: and he knows how to get things to the right,
Speaker 4: and he knows how if he wants to get it
Speaker 4: on the hill or just left of the hill. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, I just want to hit it in
Speaker 4: the air.
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, I may contact and the ball goes vertical.
Speaker 2: That's a win for me. And for a while people
Speaker 2: think people used to think I was like sandbagging or
Speaker 2: really like overcompensating. But those that have been on a
Speaker 2: golf course with me, there's not that many people they'll
Speaker 2: a test like, oh no, Nick's not joking. He's like
Speaker 2: he's not good. Like I can't go play around to
Speaker 2: golf with people who play not even regularly, because I
Speaker 2: will think, I'll I'm the guy who will missed the
Speaker 2: ball when I swing a club, like you know, and
Speaker 2: I know that's not I mean, I know that that's
Speaker 2: not that crazy of a thing to do, but like
Speaker 2: I'll then just get really mad at myself and it,
Speaker 2: you know, and then I'm out there for four hours
Speaker 2: just pounding beers, getting pissed because I suck and.
Speaker 4: They're not even counting your scores at that oh yeah,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, so just waiting for you to get done
Speaker 4: out of that sand trap when you're eighth shot.
Speaker 2: We went on our trip last week. The fellas that
Speaker 2: went on the trip all had a day where they
Speaker 2: went golfing, and you know, they included me in the invitation,
Speaker 2: and I I just I'm like, no, I can't do it.
Speaker 2: Like I would literally be I'd be holding you guys back,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't enjoy myself and and it would be it
Speaker 2: would be a damper on your golf trip. So like
Speaker 2: it's actually it was actually a moment of clarity for
Speaker 2: me to like, you know what, like don't force it, bro,
Speaker 2: you're not golf guy. Like you know, they they don't
Speaker 2: need you out there. And I'm.
Speaker 4: You know, that's just another way I feel like I
Speaker 4: can bond with the boys, I can have something relevant
Speaker 4: to talk about or I don't know.
Speaker 2: But it's definitely a there's a lot of business that
Speaker 2: gets talked about over a game of golf, right, not
Speaker 2: like everybody, but it's a pretty common like in fact,
Speaker 2: there's been twice in my time in this profession and
Speaker 2: what I do where we've talked to clients that have
Speaker 2: either been potential clients or clients that we have that
Speaker 2: I have a relationship with, and like they want around
Speaker 2: a golf we'll talk about it. I'm like sure, but
Speaker 2: like here's what you're in for. And you know, I
Speaker 2: just got to be like, because this is what I
Speaker 2: this is what because my friends even are like, dude,
Speaker 2: you're not like it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not saying like I'm the worst person,
Speaker 2: I'm the worst player ever and that like I would
Speaker 2: ruin anybody's experience, but like I'm clearly not I'm clearly
Speaker 2: like the weak link of any group that you would
Speaker 2: that you would be around right, And you know, it
Speaker 2: was a moment of clarity for me to realize, like,
Speaker 2: you know what I don't like, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: force it, and you know, golf will be fine, just
Speaker 2: fine without me. But the one thing I really wish
Speaker 2: I had, because I've had this argument before, when it
Speaker 2: comes to like horse racing, I don't believe that you
Speaker 2: need to have knowledge of the sport of horse racing
Speaker 2: around here to talk Derby, because Derby is so much
Speaker 2: bigger than just that race. Now, clearly, when you get
Speaker 2: close to the race, you talk about the actual race itself,
Speaker 2: the field, that kind of stuff, and I can you know,
Speaker 2: at least reference that and tell you who the favorites
Speaker 2: are that kind of stuff. But we all force it
Speaker 2: around here. I used to do it as far as
Speaker 2: thinking we have to talk about like the sport of
Speaker 2: horse racing, and maybe, clearly there are people who are
Speaker 2: interested in that, but like ninety nine percent of the
Speaker 2: people who listen to shows like this throughout the year,
Speaker 2: what do they know They're not getting throughout the year
Speaker 2: for the most part, talk about horse racing. So I'll
Speaker 2: always defend myself when it comes to that. Now, when
Speaker 2: it comes to golf. It is the one thing that
Speaker 2: I do believe is a good talking point for radio
Speaker 2: here and there. I mean, it's not something you can
Speaker 2: really just do a to mean, I don't think you
Speaker 2: can spend a whole show breaking down one of the
Speaker 2: major tournaments, but like I should know enough to be
Speaker 2: dangerous to at least have a conversation. And what I
Speaker 2: can tell you in the last year that happened in
Speaker 2: golf that's notable is that Scottie Schefler came to Louisville
Speaker 2: and he got arrested. Like that's yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 4: There's turmoil like that, and there's obviously you know everything
Speaker 4: that that live live tournament and you got everything with that,
Speaker 4: and plus they got their own Netflix show now so
Speaker 4: you can kind of see some Bryce and Deshambeau.
Speaker 2: I will say this, it doesn't really appeal to me.
Speaker 2: And we'll get into this later because I do actually
Speaker 2: have a list of things that like will surprise you
Speaker 2: about the Masters itself. But like again, I'm not complaining.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm fine without golf. Golf is clearly fine
Speaker 2: without me, but it's not real inviting, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? It's it's a snob sport, is it not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you spend a lot of money, and that's what's
Speaker 4: gonna that's what's kind of gonna deter you from cause
Speaker 4: you're gonna have fun when you play. There's gonna be
Speaker 4: that one shot where you're like, all right, you know what,
Speaker 4: I can do this, and you're gonna realize, Okay, if
Speaker 4: I want to come do this again, I gotta If
Speaker 4: I want to get better, I gotta come do this again.
Speaker 4: If I do this again, I gotta come spend one
Speaker 4: hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: And you have to spend a whole day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a whole day, a lot of money,
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna eventually want to go get clubs
Speaker 4: and gear and all that.
Speaker 2: So it's can be expensive. People who love it like
Speaker 2: they love it, they make it like their personality and
Speaker 2: that's fine. So again, disclaimer before we get to the
Speaker 2: top of the hour break here, which we're late for.
Speaker 2: If you like it and you love it, cool, Like
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with golf. I just
Speaker 2: know that it's not for me. And you know, it's
Speaker 2: another one of those things about the golf world when
Speaker 2: you tell people like, you don't follow it, you don't play,
Speaker 2: you don't care. The ones who are really into it
Speaker 2: are like, what the hell's wrong with this guy? It's okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's things that you know, I'm into that.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of others are that you aren't.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's got their own thing. It's my one weakness.
Speaker 2: I kid, I got a lot of weaknesses, but it's
Speaker 2: one of the things when it comes to like being
Speaker 2: dangerous enough to talk sports at the water cooler with
Speaker 2: people like I got. I mean, my wife would be
Speaker 2: as as knowledgeable about golf as me, which isn't much
Speaker 2: so anyways, two more hours left. Stick with us right
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