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<v Speaker 1>Sir, it's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Are get off our show, idiots, the kids are playing

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<v Speaker 3>or turn off. The countries are screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Goal play inner murals, Brother, goal play inner murals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna ask if if we're ready to get

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<v Speaker 2>this thing started, but that would have been a waste

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<v Speaker 2>of time because I know we're ready. I hope we're ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna speak it into existence. In fact, if we're

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<v Speaker 2>not ready, I mean, I've been up since three point

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<v Speaker 2>thirty this morning, no joke, got up three thirty this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Filled it on news radio eight forty whas, which is

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<v Speaker 2>always an honor. And maybe we have a bigger audience

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<v Speaker 2>today Austin because I plugged Coffee and Company fueled by

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<v Speaker 2>Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety while I was on

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Stick. Oh that's right, I like what you

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<v Speaker 2>said earlier, Big Nick. I'm a big stick. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>like it just I mean, while you were going to

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom too. Yeah, it made me feel real good

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<v Speaker 2>as I as I walked in to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>my business. I doubt that'll ever be any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a name for me in radio, but yeah, I always

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<v Speaker 2>am a little loopy, a little slap happy when when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in this situation where I got up really early,

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<v Speaker 2>did four hours of radio, and then from nine am

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<v Speaker 2>to three pm. That's a long break, right, and I

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<v Speaker 2>do sit and I rest, but I can't sleep because

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<v Speaker 2>if I really tried, I wouldn't be able to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just lay there restless waste time. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little more bring this up to say, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little slap happy right out of the gate, more so

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<v Speaker 2>than usual. Typically when I do double duty, it takes

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<v Speaker 2>like four thirty ish for I'm like, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just let who knows where this show's going. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm you know, I guess loopy is the

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<v Speaker 2>better way to slap happy, the better way, the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to describe it. But like, we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But right out of the gate here, I'm just letting

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<v Speaker 2>you guys know I'm kind of a zombie, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>that could be fun. Aren't zombies cool? Right? Yeah? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Depends depends on what zombie you're talking about. World War

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<v Speaker 4>Z zombie, walking dead zombie, neither the living dead zombies.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, zombies aren't good, are they now, now that

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<v Speaker 2>I think about it, No, not really.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyways, if you were to turn into a zombie,

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<v Speaker 4>then i'd gracefully have to be the one to, you know, put.

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<v Speaker 2>You out of your misery. Yeah, well I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>you to do that. I wouldn't. Please don't, please don't,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're ready, we're ready to rock and roll. I

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<v Speaker 2>maybe over compensating by continuously saying how we're ready to roll,

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<v Speaker 2>ready to roll, ready to roll, but ready or not,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do it. Taking you up till six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dick Coffee, Austin Montgomery, the travel chief alongside,

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<v Speaker 2>and we got a lot to get to today and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll certainly do exactly that. And I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 2>will stick with us. Don't forget you could take us

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<v Speaker 2>with you wherever you go. Listen live on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Also listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot Com. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll get right to it. We now have confirmation.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been announced that Pat Kelsey has received a

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<v Speaker 2>contract extension. Josh Hurd spoke today. We'll let you hear

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<v Speaker 2>some sound. I believe we have some of that and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot that I took away from from Josh Hurt's

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<v Speaker 2>press conference talking about a lot of things, including an

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<v Speaker 2>emotional Josh Hurd when talking about the loss of Junior

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<v Speaker 2>Bridgeman of course, which of course is you know, very

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<v Speaker 2>sad thing, a guy who's very, very very impactful around here,

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<v Speaker 2>not only as a former Louisville basketball player, but a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that made a big impact on this community in

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<v Speaker 2>this state. But the big takeaway today is that Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey got his extension, So the UFL Athletic Association showed

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<v Speaker 2>their appreciation for one Pat Kelsey raising his salary by

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<v Speaker 2>one million dollars. So he has now signed a new contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I need to get to the specifics here. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he actually I mean, you can get

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<v Speaker 2>a raise without signing a new extent, without like signing

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<v Speaker 2>a new deal. I don't know the specifics of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get all that. But anyways, he's now earning

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<v Speaker 2>three point six to three million on a contract that

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<v Speaker 2>runs through the twenty thirty season, So I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>is an extensioncause I don't believe his first contract that

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<v Speaker 2>he signed unless I'm wrong, ran up until twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gone from two point three million to three

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<v Speaker 2>point sixty three million, and the new deal also increases

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<v Speaker 2>the incentives he's going to earn for reaching the Sweet

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen Elite eight in Final four. And one thing I'll

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<v Speaker 2>say that that I don't want a nitpick and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to share my thoughts on this, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>people to, like, you know, have to put on like

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<v Speaker 2>your your listening years is that I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 2>something that might go over your head. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>what you hear me say a lot like both things

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<v Speaker 2>can be true. I understand that this is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>best thing the university could do for Pat Kelsey as

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<v Speaker 2>far as like financially being responsible. We know that U

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<v Speaker 2>of L is still paying and I don't mean necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean they're still like you know, in debt.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they do still have coaches on that they're paying.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they paid more for can he paying to

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<v Speaker 2>coach at Arkansas this year than they did Pat kel

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<v Speaker 2>city coach at Louisville. So like, that sucks that that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's nothing you can really do about it. So

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<v Speaker 2>again two things. One, I'm glad he got an extension

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<v Speaker 2>and a raise. I understand why it's not more, But

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<v Speaker 2>I also would be a liar if I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be talking about Pat Kelsey's new contract

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<v Speaker 2>extension on the show today. It'll be announced right before.

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<v Speaker 2>What number do you think it would be? I was

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<v Speaker 2>expecting it to be much higher than three point six.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a criticism because again I think if they

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<v Speaker 2>could pay them a lot more money they would. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt they love this man, Pat Kelsey. We all do.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think when you've got me, you're still paying

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<v Speaker 2>the price for some bad decisions that were made that

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's in the past, but I need to

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<v Speaker 2>dwell on it. But I think that's why you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a coach that was awful that not only

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<v Speaker 2>you're still paying for paying a lot, but you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have anybody showed up for games for years. That has

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<v Speaker 2>an impact that affects the University. Also, another factor as

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<v Speaker 2>to why it's not more could be that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to put a big conscience. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>insinuate that they're reluctant to put more money out there

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't believe in Pat Kelsey. But there may

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<v Speaker 2>be some aspect of let's just make sure we're covering

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<v Speaker 2>our ass this time around, because you know what, we've

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<v Speaker 2>given some contracts out around here. Not saying Josh had

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with it, because honestly, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>still relatively new in the position. But I mean Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>and they're they're not alone. But you want to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>having to pay coaches a lot of money when they're

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<v Speaker 2>not coaching you anymore. That's why I've always thought that,

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<v Speaker 2>like people don't realize Chris Mack did Louiville a favor

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<v Speaker 2>by leaving and taking half when he could have absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>stuck around and made them fire him. And it's all nonsense. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he took the He took half because he knew they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to maybe get caused. No, they weren't. They

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get caused to fire him one. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they would have it. But if they did they

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<v Speaker 2>would basically be putting themselves in further trouble with the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, pack that's the news today. Pat Kelsey did

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<v Speaker 2>get a new extension. His salary has been bumped by

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<v Speaker 2>one million dollars. And again, this is what I was

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<v Speaker 2>getting to a moment ago and got sidetracked. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>am I surprised that it's not a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 2>but again I understand I didn't. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>brought it up, but I probably should have. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have would have been out there at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the tweets that I had, just not

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<v Speaker 2>even thinking it would take off and get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reaction and engagement. I wasn't, you know, rage baiting

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. But Pat earned a twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars bonus for being acc Coach of the Year

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<v Speaker 2>and a fifty thousand dollars bonus for Louisville being an

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<v Speaker 2>NSIBA tournament comparatively speaking, And I'll pull it up later

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<v Speaker 2>because I want to reference it. And this is not

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<v Speaker 2>to be critical. Again, I want to be clear. This

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<v Speaker 2>is just talking numbers, and when some of the numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are surprising like they are, to me. It does not

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<v Speaker 2>take long for me to realize, oh yeah, that does

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<v Speaker 2>make sense. The university's athletic department is not exactly in

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<v Speaker 2>a great position because they're still paying the price for

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<v Speaker 2>some previous mistakes that some of the people aren't even

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<v Speaker 2>here anymore that made those decisions. But also you're about

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<v Speaker 2>to have to start paying twenty million dollars annually to

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<v Speaker 2>share revenue. So there's a lot of factors in it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the new coach, I think it's at Florida State.

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<v Speaker 2>He has I don't know what his contract is as

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<v Speaker 2>far as his salary, but somebody when I posted that

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<v Speaker 2>Pat got a twenty five thousand dollars bonus for ACC

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<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year. The other incentives for that same

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<v Speaker 2>award within the conference is like sometimes I mean ten

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<v Speaker 2>times as much like you'll take whatever right. And Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey when he took this job, was not worried about

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<v Speaker 2>probably getting a deal that made him one of the

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<v Speaker 2>highest paid coaches in the sport because he was getting

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<v Speaker 2>a life changing raise as is by just making two

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<v Speaker 2>point three million at at Louisville. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say maybe I shouldn't say life changing, but obviously he

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna make a big bump in paid by going

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<v Speaker 2>from Charleston to Louisville. We all know that, so he probably,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, understood, like, hey, one, I probably and clearly

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the first choice. But I'm getting the opportunity. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the reasons why Pat Kelsey was so

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<v Speaker 2>successful in your one, because for him, he believes in himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows he's got the formula, he knows he's a

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<v Speaker 2>good coach, and he can be successful. And all he

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<v Speaker 2>needed was the opportunity and he got it. So I

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<v Speaker 2>doubt he was really overly concerned about any of the incentives.

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<v Speaker 2>But like twenty five thousand dollars per winning ACC Basketball

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<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year, I mean, that's I didn't realize it. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I learned after sharing that that's insane. Like anybody else

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<v Speaker 2>that gets that that kind of and I shouldn't say anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll try my best to check and see if

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<v Speaker 2>I can find some references. But I think like the

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<v Speaker 2>majority that like win that award in football or basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of them are getting like quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars. My MANPK got twenty five grand like that. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. You aren't in a position to go

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<v Speaker 2>out here and just be throwing a ton of money

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<v Speaker 2>just to do it, because you know, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>be mindful of what you spend and to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>When you hired Pat Kelce as much as he came

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<v Speaker 2>in here and stole the show right when he showed

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<v Speaker 2>up to town and gave us the press conference, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons that was an obvious one is that

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<v Speaker 2>if you were able to somehow convince you know, Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Drew to leave Baylor, which again we all know it

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<v Speaker 2>worked out well, and I'm excited about the future. I

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<v Speaker 2>just know that there's going to be some that are thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, why is it? You know, why did he

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<v Speaker 2>not get a bigger bump than that? And I'll be direct,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know why fans care what money coaches

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<v Speaker 2>make because it's not your money. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even whenever they're asking for money for nil,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to a coach, So I don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope Pat Kelsey and I know he is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to take care of his family with

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of money he's going to make to coach Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's going to be doing just fine, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I never have really like it's I'm not sitting

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<v Speaker 2>here thinking like Dearne, they should have gave him more. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I do understand, although I'm not totally on the same page,

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<v Speaker 2>there are fans that just understand what Louisville basketball is

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<v Speaker 2>and that I don't care who you hire, it's Louisville's

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<v Speaker 2>basketball job. It's a big deal. Like starting pay is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, four million, and again that's probably not smart

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<v Speaker 2>to do because you, you know, especially if you hire

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<v Speaker 2>a coach like Pat who really had proven to be successful,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was coming up from Charleston, and again, you

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<v Speaker 2>weren't in a position to go out there and make

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<v Speaker 2>somebody the highest paid coach in college basketball or one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. So again, three point three million, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Three point six is the current three point six to

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<v Speaker 2>three million is the new salary for Pat Kelsey. He

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<v Speaker 2>did get a raise and an extension and more incentives,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's good news. It's all good news. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you look up the highest paid coaches in college basketball

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<v Speaker 2>right now, this list was updated less than a month

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<v Speaker 2>ago from USA today. So just to give you the

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<v Speaker 2>top five highest paid coaches sparse total pay, Bill self

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<v Speaker 2>is number one. Caliperio at Arkansas's number two, Dan Hurley

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<v Speaker 2>Mick Cronin is the fifth highest paid coach at UCLA.

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<v Speaker 2>What a waste of money. But anyways, Bill self is

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<v Speaker 2>eight point eight million, Cal has eight even, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of incentives. Dan Hurley seven point seven million,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Izzo six point one million, Mick Cronin six point

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<v Speaker 2>one million. But Izzo's got some, you know, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a little bit of a bump compared

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<v Speaker 2>to a little bit more than Cronin has. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you hear that number, that salary meaning eight eight, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>six and six is the top five, and you hear

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<v Speaker 2>Pat is now getting three point six where would you

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<v Speaker 2>all guess he ranks. I'm gonna give you a second

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<v Speaker 2>thing about it now. I'm not gonna, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do trivia here, but this is the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>again I'm not even being critical, just an observation. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not my money. Pat clearly is cool with it

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<v Speaker 2>because he agreed to it. It's awesome, but he is

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<v Speaker 2>still not one of the top forty highest paid coaches

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball. And again, everybody's cool with it. Ufl

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<v Speaker 2>offered it, he accepted it. He's locked in great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just Louisville Basketball paying less for their coach than Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 2>than Arizona State, than Iowa State, than Clemson, than Penn State.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you know Missouri. I mean, I guess I could

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<v Speaker 2>mention schools like Missouri and Nebraska and Illinois, but it

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<v Speaker 2>even old miss But let's be real, those schools have

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<v Speaker 2>a boatload of money just for being in the Big

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<v Speaker 2>ten in the SEC. So good news. They did give

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<v Speaker 2>Hi an extension, he did get more money, and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be happy, or they wouldn't have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>followed through with it. It's just I'm a little surprised

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<v Speaker 2>that that, you know, he's not viewed, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>there is something to be said about two things. One,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta be mind. You can't just promise somebody a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of money that you don't have, right like. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to be to manage your finances and understand what

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<v Speaker 2>you can and can't afford. And I think giving him

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<v Speaker 2>an extension after one year is certainly a sign of

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<v Speaker 2>good faith. And I think Pat knows that he's loved

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<v Speaker 2>around here, and he probably understands that because of those

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<v Speaker 2>that came before him, they would be paying him more,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're just not in a position to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you know, like Fred Hoiberg at Nebraska's making

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<v Speaker 2>four point seven million, Jamie Dixon at TCU, they're in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve. He's making more than a million than Patt.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, I know a lot of these coaches, even

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't have a lot of momentum right now,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a lot of juice like they have been

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<v Speaker 2>successful to an extent. And some will say, well, Pat,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want a tournament game, and you're right, he hasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I don't know what the bank

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<v Speaker 2>account looks like for U of L. So again, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I guess more than anything. I'll give you two

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<v Speaker 2>sure these are in fact, I know these are things

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<v Speaker 2>that I've kind of already said already, but just just

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of wrap up the segment and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>let you guys react to it. And again, if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got strong opinions on it, you can share it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just telling you my I'm just giving you

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<v Speaker 2>my takeaways to be clear. Disclaimer. It's not my money

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<v Speaker 2>and Pat's Pat agreed to it. The school gave him

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<v Speaker 2>a bump, so everybody's good. But I do think there

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<v Speaker 2>is something to be said about, like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>value basketball, so you pay this, but but you can't

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, create money out of thin air that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist. So you know, I just hope that next

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<v Speaker 2>year if in fact, like he I don't know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>overthinking it because that's what I do. That's my nature.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of my biggest weaknesses as a human being.

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<v Speaker 2>I overthink everything in life, and this isn't something I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be losing sleepover. But you know, if this was

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<v Speaker 2>the best offer and Pat took it, I'm assuming that

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<v Speaker 2>he's cool, he's happy, he's ready to roll. But let's

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<v Speaker 2>be real, if any job opened up that wanted him,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have offered damn near double of what Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>is now paying him. So I just hope that, like

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<v Speaker 2>deep down, he's understanding and he's not about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not just here to to to you know, create

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<v Speaker 2>generational wealth. Because I think from when I know about

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<v Speaker 2>Pat and I would never claim to know him on

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<v Speaker 2>a personal level, but from what I know, he has

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<v Speaker 2>enough belief in himself and his system and and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know him him having success to where it'll all

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<v Speaker 2>work out in the long run. I just hope that,

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<v Speaker 2>like the money all working out in the long run

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<v Speaker 2>includes it being here at Louisville. I don't know, Austin,

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<v Speaker 2>were you at all, Like, did you have any Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not our money, We're not spending it. I just again,

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<v Speaker 2>if if you can't afford it, you can't afford It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest issues people have in life, like

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<v Speaker 2>they they spend outside of their means. It's just when

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that this, when I knew that this was happening,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have expected I don't know, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to sound stupid, and I say a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stupid things. I'll stay I'll say many more stupid

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<v Speaker 2>things the rest of the way. But it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>to me seemed a little bit like, well, Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the best you can do. That's the best you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like almost like why bother, like, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you just wait till next year, maybe you can save

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<v Speaker 2>up some more money. And because there's gonna be players

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball and this isn't going to be that rare,

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<v Speaker 2>but just an example. And I know when I hammer it, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like I'm criticizing. It's just the times we're in

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<v Speaker 2>the top end. Kid who's coming back from Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 2>for another year, the belief is that he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>make three and a half million, he'll basically make the

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<v Speaker 2>same amount of money to play college basketball Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 2>for a year that Louisville's paying Pat Kelsey. And again

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that's an issue. They've got to fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just surprising. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm right up your alley, and when you mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>that right before we got on air, I was just

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<v Speaker 4>expecting like a little more to hold you over for

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<v Speaker 4>a few years, not just like a low increase. Because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm with you, then just should have just done it

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<v Speaker 4>next year, because now we're going to go into next

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<v Speaker 4>year and let's say something happens and Louisville has a

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<v Speaker 4>decent first weekend in tournament or they make it a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty substantial run in the tournament, then all we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>hear about during the coaching openings is is with Pat

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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey gonna eye somewhere else and he's he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>seem like he's locked down in my opinion, So I

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<v Speaker 4>guess I'm already looking forward towards that aspect of thinking like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna have to do the same thing that we

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<v Speaker 4>did this year next year and just deal with that

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<v Speaker 4>until they literally drop a lottery bag on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and I think if this is something you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta do annually, just because you're still trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>the bank account a little bit more healthy as you

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<v Speaker 2>as you make you know, as you make progress and

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<v Speaker 2>make steps, that's great. But like I just assumed that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, here we go, he's he's he's locked in.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I would have thought at minimum, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>four point three and I can't. I know, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm disappointed, but again, like it's not my money,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. Pat's cool with it, then great. I

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, if there would have been a contrary

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<v Speaker 2>extension that would have been between four and five, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have felt like, Okay, he's locked in and he's

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<v Speaker 2>not going anywhere. And I still believe that, trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>I do, But you know, it is still something that

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<v Speaker 2>from a fan aspect, we know what Louisville brings more

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<v Speaker 2>than just the salary. If you're the basketball coach, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I mean, there's a lot that comes with it,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of pressure, clearly we've learned that, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of expectation. But I think he's somebody that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>shown he's built for that. He'll embrace it, and clearly

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<v Speaker 2>he'll win. He did that so far. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he does really really good next

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<v Speaker 2>year and Louisville is in fact a top ten type team,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of folks are projecting that they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure they're going to be, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>if they do end up in that position, I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe it'll be the first time ever that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>talking point that Louisville will need to substantially upgrade their

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<v Speaker 2>coach's salary or other schools for the first time ever

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<v Speaker 2>will realize we can go double that dude's pay and

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<v Speaker 2>he will know that Louisll's a better job than us.

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<v Speaker 2>But we got Big ten money, we got SEC money,

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<v Speaker 2>and as a fan, again we get caught up in

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<v Speaker 2>like our own bubble. But this is a job to Pat.

416
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<v Speaker 2>This is how he makes a living. And think about

417
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<v Speaker 2>you having, you know, you being able to potentially turn

418
00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:26.200
<v Speaker 2>down doubling your salary. Who would do that? Not many people.

419
00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:28.640
<v Speaker 2>So again I believe that if he continues to succeed,

420
00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:30.759
<v Speaker 2>they're going to continue to understand they got to keep

421
00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.359
<v Speaker 2>coming with more money because he's earning that and this

422
00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:35.920
<v Speaker 2>is a business, and other schools will in fact give

423
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:39.319
<v Speaker 2>him that. I think everybody knows that. It's just you know,

424
00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:42.839
<v Speaker 2>I guess more than anything, I'm a little bit like

425
00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:46.839
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's the realization that financially, this is how

426
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<v Speaker 2>strapped you are. Because again we all know Louisville values basketball.

427
00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.359
<v Speaker 2>This year was proof how important it is for Louisville

428
00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:56.720
<v Speaker 2>basketball to be successful, for the university, for the athletic department,

429
00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.039
<v Speaker 2>and for this city. And Pat brought us that in

430
00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:02.559
<v Speaker 2>year one. Was awesome And I don't see that changing

431
00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:07.039
<v Speaker 2>any point. But I don't know, it's just the reality

432
00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:10.000
<v Speaker 2>that there. I mean, And again this isn't new information.

433
00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:12.640
<v Speaker 2>We've talked about this, not for just a few months

434
00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.720
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, for years really that the SEC

435
00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and the Big ten they live in a different neighborhood

436
00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.119
<v Speaker 2>than everybody else. They got bigger homes, they got bigger,

437
00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.480
<v Speaker 2>they got more uh, they got more acres, right, they

438
00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:28.359
<v Speaker 2>got they got an extra garage and there's nothing you

439
00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:31.839
<v Speaker 2>can do about that if you're Louisville. So I believe

440
00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:33.839
<v Speaker 2>this is the best they could do as far as

441
00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:38.000
<v Speaker 2>being responsible, and that's that's that's just the situation that

442
00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you're in. I just I think this guy's been so

443
00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.440
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal and I think he is the perfect fit for us.

444
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<v Speaker 2>And to be clear, I do not see a scenario

445
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<v Speaker 2>where like he's not our coach in a few years.

446
00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you never know, but let's just be real

447
00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:52.880
<v Speaker 2>about it. If he continues to have success, they're gonna

448
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:55.440
<v Speaker 2>have to continue doing this, and if it is these

449
00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.279
<v Speaker 2>gradual bumps, that's gonna be noted and there'll be other

450
00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:02.920
<v Speaker 2>schools that realize, we never thought in a billion years

451
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>we'd be able to go get Louisville's basketball coach, are

452
00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you kid me? And they probably won't be able to,

453
00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.960
<v Speaker 2>but they'll look at what he's making and say, we could,

454
00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:13.680
<v Speaker 2>we could triple his pay. So again, if Louisville could

455
00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:15.799
<v Speaker 2>do that, they would, I know it, because we know

456
00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:20.119
<v Speaker 2>they value basketball. They have to. So here are some

457
00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:24.240
<v Speaker 2>incentives of the deal for those of you that Yeah,

458
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<v Speaker 2>So he's still getting the same twenty five K for

459
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year, He's getting fifty K for National

460
00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year, fifty K for ACC regular season.

461
00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:38.039
<v Speaker 2>So again, a lot of his like ACC tournament champs

462
00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:40.160
<v Speaker 2>that's a fifty thousand dollars bonus, instead of a tournament

463
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:43.319
<v Speaker 2>appearance that's a fifty thousand dollars bonus. So the ones

464
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<v Speaker 2>that are that have changed is if Louisville makes the

465
00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Sweet sixteen, he'll get a two hundred and fifty thousand

466
00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.319
<v Speaker 2>dollars base increase and he can get that up to

467
00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:55.119
<v Speaker 2>two times. You make the Elite eight, he's getting three

468
00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:58.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars increase, and you can get that up

469
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<v Speaker 2>to two times. So I mean just a I mean,

470
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<v Speaker 2>there's I'm looking at the document that Dusty Baker over

471
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<v Speaker 2>at Wave three posted that just has the picture of it,

472
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm trying to it's it's definitely full of incentives

473
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<v Speaker 2>to where like if Louisville is as good as they

474
00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.200
<v Speaker 2>need to be. Like if Louisville ends up next year

475
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>making the final four or even the Elite eight, like

476
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.359
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna get, He's gonna get, you know, a couple

477
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:28.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars added for the Elite eight, quarter million

478
00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:31.519
<v Speaker 2>added for the final four. And again, the more I

479
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:34.000
<v Speaker 2>look at the numbers and I'm spending on wheels here,

480
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:38.160
<v Speaker 2>trust me, I know, I just think every part of

481
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:42.400
<v Speaker 2>this entire thing, from the three point six base to

482
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>some of the incentives staying the same, some of the

483
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 2>incentives going up, but not that much. It's got to

484
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>just be the best they can do. And that is

485
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:58.039
<v Speaker 2>not surprising when you really consider the recent years here

486
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<v Speaker 2>at U of L. But it also doesn't scare me,

487
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:04.160
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not going to be you know, nervous about it.

488
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<v Speaker 2>But it's just, you know, long story short, we got

489
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:08.759
<v Speaker 2>a great coach where I hope is here for a

490
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:10.440
<v Speaker 2>long time. I believe will be here for a long time.

491
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<v Speaker 2>I believe he will have a lot of success here.

492
00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:15.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just with the financial component because you still have

493
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<v Speaker 2>to kind of, you know, sit in the mess that

494
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>was made by the previous hires and whatnot. It's just

495
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>an unprecedented thing to know that if a school really wanted,

496
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>they could double your coach's salary. And I would hope

497
00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that he would turn it down, but like if he didn't,

498
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:36.759
<v Speaker 2>we'd be all sad and you'd be devastating. But like, again,

499
00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:40.039
<v Speaker 2>this is his job. Would you turn down a chance

500
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:42.480
<v Speaker 2>to double your salary? So again, best they could do.

501
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a situation we're in. All in all, it's still

502
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 2>a good piece of news. But I do believe the

503
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:50.319
<v Speaker 2>more and I haven't even seen the reaction just yet,

504
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:52.319
<v Speaker 2>and we'll get Yarl's reaction to it as well. I

505
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.000
<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be a talking point, like Louisville

506
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>could do that. Louisville, that's all they could do. In fact,

507
00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.119
<v Speaker 2>i'm reading here from Dusty's tweet that shows the the

508
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 2>breakdown of his base pay and the incentives, the performance

509
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:09.079
<v Speaker 2>bonuses and all that, and you know, everybody's chiming in

510
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.839
<v Speaker 2>and saying, like, cannot believe it's that low. He deserves

511
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.440
<v Speaker 2>more than that, should have been a lot more. And

512
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 2>again these are just people on Twitter, like you know,

513
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.880
<v Speaker 2>who are you know, just you know, humans on the

514
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 2>internet or bots on the internet. I don't know. So

515
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.359
<v Speaker 2>there's way more than any of us would ever know

516
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:28.400
<v Speaker 2>as far as like the finances. And again, I just

517
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is what they Maybe they got a boatload

518
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:33.160
<v Speaker 2>of money. We don't know about it. They just say, Okay, yeah,

519
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>that was good enough for a little bit of a bump,

520
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 2>but we need more. Pat like, maybe that's their approach,

521
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 2>but I doubt it. I think they realize they want

522
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 2>this guy forever. But this is probably just the best

523
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 2>they can do. And if Louisville keeps succeeding, that'll help

524
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 2>you get out of the financial situation you're into where

525
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>you can then put a little bit more money towards

526
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the coach and keep him happy. Who knows, maybe Pat

527
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>told him, Look, if you've got to, if you're out

528
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<v Speaker 2>here rounding up funds to get me, to get me

529
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.880
<v Speaker 2>a big bump, just you know, take care of me

530
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, keep rounding up that money. Put it

531
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 2>towards nil. I'm gonna build a team. Like maybe he's

532
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:10.480
<v Speaker 2>doing that. We're in We're in a new world here,

533
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>so trust me, there's coaches that have taken some steps

534
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 2>back as far as what they earn because they know

535
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 2>they need that money to go get good teams or

536
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>they won't be successful and have the job in the

537
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<v Speaker 2>first place. All right, quick break. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>Freshman Awards program. All right, Nick Coffee, that's me Austin

559
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<v Speaker 2>Montgomery alongside. As as we've discussed throughout the first thirty

560
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<v Speaker 2>minutes or so today, Pat Kelsey did get an extension

561
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and did get a raise. He's making now three point

562
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>six million dollars and easily the most money that he's

563
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:44.519
<v Speaker 2>that he's ever made as a basketball coach, unless you know,

564
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>somehow Winthrop and Charleston were paying more than I would

565
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<v Speaker 2>have ever imagined. So good news all the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>And we did have somebody that called in during the

567
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<v Speaker 2>break that wanted to mention that Rick Patino at Saint

568
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 2>John's also is making I guess, relatively the same. Might

569
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.760
<v Speaker 2>in fact, Beatino might have been making less than Pat

570
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 2>And you know, good observation. And you know that's whatever.

571
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not super relevant. But for Rick, like

572
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>if there's somebody that says, well, hey, that you know,

573
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 2>expecting pat to be paid in the four to five

574
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>range is crazy because Rick's only making three. Well, you

575
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 2>gotta keep in mind, Rick, is it Saint John's where

576
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.519
<v Speaker 2>they really don't I mean, first of all, Rick doesn't

577
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>need any money, and also Saint John's doesn't have much money.

578
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, in fact, he was able to get them

579
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>to I mean he brought Rick, brought Saint John's money

580
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 2>for him to go buy players like they didn't have it,

581
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So a little bit of

582
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:40.519
<v Speaker 2>a different situation, and he was coming from my own,

583
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's just totally different situation. So my

584
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>biggest takeaway is that for PK to still not be

585
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.639
<v Speaker 2>in the top forty, you know, someone will say, well, okay,

586
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 2>that's fine, he's never even won a tournament game fair enough,

587
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.519
<v Speaker 2>But like, you know, I just think this year, for

588
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>him being a legitimate National Coach of the Year candidate

589
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 2>ACC Coach of the Year a program like Louisville, you would,

590
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 2>if I would, I expected him to just you know,

591
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>put him in the top fifteen to twenty just because

592
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>we're Louisville. But clearly you can't just do it because

593
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 2>you want to. You got to have the money. And

594
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to act like it's nothing but poverty,

595
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>and you know, everybody's broke at U of L. But

596
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>clearly they are still paying for the mistakes made that

597
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't want to dwell on them, but

598
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>like they're still paying They were still paying Chris Mack

599
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.039
<v Speaker 2>until just recently. They're still paying Kenny Payne, not only

600
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.840
<v Speaker 2>this this season that just ended, but next season. So

601
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 2>that's I mean, yeah, it's somebody's fault down the line,

602
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.599
<v Speaker 2>but like it is what it is, and that's why

603
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 2>you're here now. One thing that is just insane to

604
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>think about. And I'm sure this is not something that

605
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>anybody cares about, but I got to be honest with

606
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 2>He's just one of those things that that really really

607
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 2>just is wild. Jeff Cable. He still makes more money

608
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.320
<v Speaker 2>than By the way, this is from the best wage

609
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>or Twitter account, they pointed out, Jeff Cable still gets

610
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 2>paid more early than Pat Kelsey, Mark few tj Alzolberger

611
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and Brad Brownwell, and all I want to know is

612
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<v Speaker 2>who is Jeff Caple's agent. I know Pittsburgh just recently

613
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>went through a change in leadership with athletics. They got

614
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<v Speaker 2>a new ad. I'm sure there's a variety of factors

615
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:18.920
<v Speaker 2>that went into that, but one of them has to

616
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:21.639
<v Speaker 2>be whoever gave Jeff Caple a contract that pays him

617
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.239
<v Speaker 2>that much money? Because you know, Pitt's not. I mean,

618
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.320
<v Speaker 2>there are certain schools that you look at here as

619
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>far as what they pay their coach, and it might

620
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 2>surprise you because of you know, where they are as

621
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.679
<v Speaker 2>far as the program, like not really notable, like Nebraska.

622
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Nebraska has never won an NCAA tournament game. Never weren't

623
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<v Speaker 2>they the school that we determine like poverty, like they've

624
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 2>theyvant Yeah, like they've never won a tournament game. But

625
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.960
<v Speaker 2>they pay their coach a top fifteen salary, and I

626
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 2>think it's because they simply have the money to do so,

627
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:56.639
<v Speaker 2>because they're in the Big Ten and they bring in

628
00:39:56.679 --> 00:40:00.280
<v Speaker 2>a ton of money in football. So Nebraska in a

629
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<v Speaker 2>top fifteen job as far as salary is crazy. But again,

630
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>these two, these two conferences, as I mentioned earlier, they

631
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>are in different neighborhoods, They have a lot more money

632
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>to use. They got money. They're just throwing money around

633
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 2>because they can. So I shouldn't do this because I'm

634
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 2>getting distracted, and I'm sure it's not making for good

635
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 2>radio at all. But just looking through the list here,

636
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 2>like other like at Rutgers, Steve Pakeel, he's making three

637
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>point eight, Jerome Tang three point seven. Kevin Keats is

638
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>three point six, but obviously he got fired. Dusty made

639
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 2>three point six, Todd Golden's making three point six. I

640
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 2>bet he gets a raised because clearly, you know they're

641
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC they can aboard it. And he just

642
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>won a national championship. So Nico medved too, who just

643
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.800
<v Speaker 2>went to Minnesota? Correct, yes, what did he get? They

644
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 2>dropped the bag on him.

645
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 4>He's his first year, is going to earn three million

646
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.320
<v Speaker 4>with annual raises of one hundred thousand or yeah, one

647
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand dollars each season at the Gophers Advance. If

648
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 4>the Gophers achieve certain milestones such as making the NCAA tournament,

649
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 4>may receive contract extension. Prior to this, he had a

650
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.599
<v Speaker 4>contract extension with Colorado State, where he was at one

651
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 4>point seven million for all last season.

652
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything in there? And if there's not, I

653
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't shock me, but I just thought I'd ask if

654
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 2>he is to win the Big Ten Coach of the Year,

655
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:27.880
<v Speaker 2>is there is there like is it mentioned any like

656
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 2>incentive for that?

657
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Let me look because I was just looking on the

658
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 4>Google AI think because automatically came.

659
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Up that's one that like it's not a huge deal.

660
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.679
<v Speaker 2>And again you'll hear me mention this over and over

661
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.599
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want it to be misconstrued as if

662
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying Louisville made a mistake here, because again I

663
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know this, but I believe that they would pay

664
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>this man a lot more if they could. You know,

665
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's that they're just okay, yeah, decent season, Pat,

666
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Let's see what else you got. I mean, maybe that's

667
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 2>the case. I don't know. I'm not talking to Josh Hurt.

668
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what goes into these situation, these these decisions.

669
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>But the twenty five thousand annually for winning ACC Coach

670
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.280
<v Speaker 2>of the Year, I just I feel like that's insanely

671
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>low for anybody else, And it's really not that important,

672
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 2>but it's just it's one of those things that stands

673
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 2>out that I think really kind of just floors me

674
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit that that's the financial situation ul Hoops

675
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 2>is in. Now, somebody brings up a really good point

676
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 2>that you know, does have you kind of questioning if

677
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 2>this list is legit. But yesterday, or maybe it was

678
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the day before, Yeah, the Forbes list came out as

679
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>far as the most valuable college basketball programs in the country,

680
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 2>and Louisville came in at number five, so you know

681
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 2>when you see that, but again, you're still in debt essentially,

682
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>like you're paying for three coaches essentially, And I think

683
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Mac is off the books now, but I could be wrong.

684
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 2>It might be one more year, but you're still paying

685
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Payne. You were paying Mac for a while. So yeah,

686
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and sixty million, that's a big evaluation. That

687
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>puts you fifth in the country, behind only Carolina, Duke, Indiana,

688
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:13.280
<v Speaker 2>and Ohio State. But also, you know, a lot of

689
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:17.000
<v Speaker 2>those programs probably aren't paying that many coaches at one time.

690
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 2>And then of course we've got on the text lines

691
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.559
<v Speaker 2>some folks mentioning this. You know, fundraising has been an

692
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 2>issue since Sturrich left. And maybe I don't know, maybe

693
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 2>you're right, maybe you're onto something, But I again, I

694
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 2>in no way do I think that today's news is

695
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:35.920
<v Speaker 2>worthy of like criticism. And look, you can be critical

696
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 2>if you want. I just can mean from my position,

697
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 2>it just you know, that's the best they can do.

698
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Then it's just a reminder that you're still paying for

699
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.599
<v Speaker 2>the mess that was made with the kinny Payne higher,

700
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 2>and honestly, you're I guess grateful that Chris Mick left

701
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.280
<v Speaker 2>and decided to just say, hey, give me this and

702
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm out, because most coaches wouldn't do that. By the way,

703
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 2>speaking of the other programs here, as far as the

704
00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>most valuable, this is according to the Wall Street Journal,

705
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned Carolina, Duke, Indiana, Ohio State, and Louisville being

706
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the top five. Number six is Arizona, seven, Syracuse, eight Illinois, nine, Kentucky,

707
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 2>ten Arkansas, and then rounding out the top fifteen is Kansas, Michigan,

708
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State, Yukon. And then I tell you what number

709
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 2>fifteen is the most random. I would have never guessed

710
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:28.280
<v Speaker 2>it program Minnesota. I mean, were they getting their money?

711
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Like Ben Johnson was his name. I think he just

712
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:32.880
<v Speaker 2>got fired, Like they weren't good, Like what are they?

713
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 2>How are they bringing in that kind of money? Like

714
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.559
<v Speaker 2>they don't even I mean, Minnesota's up there as far

715
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>as like one of the one of the really random,

716
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.400
<v Speaker 2>like forever unsuccessful programs. Yeah, and that's why whenever we

717
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>talked about Nico Medved taking that job and then Richard

718
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Battino rising once again to now get the Xavier job

719
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 2>like nobody has won at Minnesota in like ever forever.

720
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 2>The one guy that did turns out he was cheating

721
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:00.360
<v Speaker 2>his ass off and they had to fake k there're

722
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>earlead eight.

723
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.920
<v Speaker 4>So well, Ben Johnson was only making a million less

724
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 4>than what Medved will be making. Ben Johnson basically made

725
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 4>a million dollars less last year than what Niko will

726
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 4>be making in his first year this year. Yeah, so

727
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 4>where he's at three million? Ben Johnson was at two

728
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 4>million for last season.

729
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 2>And I'm trying to find the coach here in the

730
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 2>top in these rankings that just seems like, I mean,

731
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I may have found him, honestly, as far

732
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 2>as the coach where you're scratching your head like, huh,

733
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:31.840
<v Speaker 2>how can you justify paying that this guy's got to

734
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:35.400
<v Speaker 2>be caple? But he's not really, you know, he's he's

735
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 2>barely above Pat. Like for just just to be clear,

736
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 2>he's making three point five to nine million caple as

737
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Pat's gonna now be at three point sixty three. So

738
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 2>for those of you that missed it earlier, three point

739
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 2>six y three. That puts Pat Kelsey as is it

740
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>three point sixty three or did I have it wrong?

741
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Let me double check here because it is important. I

742
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>may have misspoke as far as what actually the toe

743
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 2>is for uh for Pat, let me see. Yeah, so

744
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 2>his bump puts him at three point sixty three, so

745
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 2>I misspoke. He is he is in the top forty,

746
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 2>but not let me see at three point sixty three,

747
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 2>he is at number thirty thirty two. So there you go.

748
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.639
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, it's still nice to have a h

749
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think, yeah, I think he said he

750
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 2>wasn't in the top forty, but I many I should

751
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 2>have said he wasn't in the top thirty. So I

752
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 2>misspoke on that. But it is I don't know. I

753
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:34.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know if this is. And I'm not trying to

754
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>speak something into existence, because you know that's not what

755
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.519
<v Speaker 2>I would do. But is it a coincidence that he

756
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 2>just jumped ahead of Dusty May here? Like Dusty May

757
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>was thirty second, Now Pat Kelsey's thirty second, Dusty May's

758
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:50.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty third was that planned out? You know, I doubt

759
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 2>that Dusty May is on anybody's mind, but I do know.

760
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was really one of the many

761
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>things Pat Kelsey said when he got hired that stood

762
00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:59.199
<v Speaker 2>out to me that I was just really you know,

763
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 2>in pre with is not only how he delivered and

764
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 2>sold himself and and you know he as they say,

765
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 2>he killed the press conference, but he was very much

766
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:11.519
<v Speaker 2>self aware and like leaned into knowing that he wasn't

767
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Scott Drew and he was in Dusty May. Like he

768
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 2>brought those guys' names up when he was introduced, which

769
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>again I think that speaks to somebody who doesn't take

770
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 2>themselves too seriously and somebody who you know is not

771
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, he gets it. Hey, I'm here to

772
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:24.840
<v Speaker 2>show you guys what I can do. So it's a

773
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 2>great point. Yeah, I h I realized looking at other

774
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I here we are talking about a guy

775
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:32.719
<v Speaker 2>making three point six and I'm not the only one.

776
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Others have said like it. I'm surprised it's not higher.

777
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, can you imagine making three point six million

778
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 2>a year be a great life? You don't now, I'm

779
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 2>just under that. I'm trying to get I'm trying to

780
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.599
<v Speaker 2>get there. But I still I think my next contract here,

781
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 2>they'll probably bump me up around that. Lets me do

782
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 2>something neot That's what I'm expecting.

783
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Let me, let me, let me look at that next contract,

784
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.440
<v Speaker 4>just to make Yeah, I'll put it on your desk

785
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 4>before I put pen to paper, just to make because

786
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 4>I got to have you making sure I'm getting taken

787
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:00.599
<v Speaker 4>care of. I studied law in a episode of Law

788
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:01.000
<v Speaker 4>and Orders.

789
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit, you know, you know contracts. All right,

790
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>quick break, we'll come back and wrap at the three

791
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour. I uh, I have nothing on the Masters,

792
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 2>which is we're great tease, right, But I'm just being transparent.

793
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Like the Masters in golf. It's the one thing where

794
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I really get fomo because I just, you know, I

795
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 2>don't know much about golf. In fact, when I say

796
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know much, I don't know anything. And yet

797
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 2>the Masters it's like the one of the biggest events

798
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:27.280
<v Speaker 2>in sports, and I'm seeing everybody talk about it. But

799
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like Harry, I'm admitting that I'm unqualified to do my

800
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 2>job when it comes to golf. I have the Master's

801
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.199
<v Speaker 2>on right now. Shout out the Master's quick break, keep

802
00:48:34.199 --> 00:53:58.039
<v Speaker 2>a loocked out here on sport Stock seven ninety. We

803
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.679
<v Speaker 2>are putting the finishing touches here on knees first hour

804
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:05.679
<v Speaker 2>of three, that's right, three hours today, which usually is

805
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.079
<v Speaker 2>what we do, but it'll be seven hours for me,

806
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 2>and I I mean, don't ever say I don't work hard, right,

807
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>And I you know, hope you guys can sense sarcasm,

808
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I'm sure I'll be on air for

809
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 2>seven hours today and you guys will be working eight

810
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>hours or more of doing something that is probably you know,

811
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 2>something that you hate. And I don't say that till, like,

812
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:26.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sure there are some people out there

813
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>that love their job. But I'm lucky. I'm fortunate. I mean,

814
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 2>don't tell anybody, but I do this for free. I

815
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 2>mean I wouldn't. My wife would probably leave me because

816
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:34.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got to contribute to the family. I

817
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 2>got kids to defeat, but good stuff thus far. Pat

818
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey got his extension. The Masters are going on, and

819
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:46.039
<v Speaker 2>that's all I can tell you about golf. Austin and

820
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I have talked about a lot of things during our

821
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:51.719
<v Speaker 2>year's long friendship, a lot of things on the show,

822
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:53.199
<v Speaker 2>A lot of things we wouldn't be allowed to talk

823
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:55.719
<v Speaker 2>about on the show. We've never talked golf. I think, ever,

824
00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:58.400
<v Speaker 2>are you a golf guy in any way? Like like

825
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I want to be so bad to play or to

826
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 2>keep up with like you know what's going on in.

827
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:04.679
<v Speaker 4>Golf A little bit of both, because I think it

828
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 4>goes hand in hand.

829
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm out on both. Like I just and

830
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't say like I'm too good for it. I

831
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 2>just I tried golf. I suck at it. I'm not

832
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.199
<v Speaker 2>good at playing. If I'm going to play a sport

833
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 2>that I'm really bad at, it's not fun because I

834
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>would just be really mad at myself because I'm super

835
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:27.519
<v Speaker 2>competitive internally. So like, I just I've tried golf exactly.

836
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 2>What about like do you keep up? Like do you

837
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:34.159
<v Speaker 2>watch golf like the big tournaments? I know what's going on,

838
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Like at this point, I'll have it on and like

839
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not asking you to pass a test here, I'm

840
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 2>just I'm asking you because I'm I'm willing to be

841
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:42.880
<v Speaker 2>transparent and say I don't know anything about golf.

842
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think it just all started as I've

843
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:48.840
<v Speaker 4>just gotten in my thirties the last couple of years,

844
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:50.719
<v Speaker 4>and I think it took my first time going to

845
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 4>top golf and I'm like, you know what, this kind

846
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.639
<v Speaker 4>of fun. I've never swung a golf club. I well,

847
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:58.840
<v Speaker 4>actually I have. I did when my mom used to

848
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.559
<v Speaker 4>work at the what's called the Eagles Nest out on

849
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 4>a David S. Motth And Air Force Base and Tucson, Arizona.

850
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Shout Shout out the Eagles Nest dm AFB where I

851
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:13.239
<v Speaker 4>grew up, my stomping grounds, the bad, bad streets of

852
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:14.239
<v Speaker 4>a military base.

853
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:16.360
<v Speaker 2>But they're bill different over there out here.

854
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:18.760
<v Speaker 4>She was, you know't you don't want to get caught

855
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:22.119
<v Speaker 4>lurking on a military base. But I would always you know,

856
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I was a chubby kid. I would always walk up

857
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 4>to her to her work, and they knew that I

858
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:29.679
<v Speaker 4>got free food. And that also meant that I had

859
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:31.239
<v Speaker 4>to stay there because I didn't want to walk back,

860
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:32.559
<v Speaker 4>so I had to stay there and wait for her

861
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 4>to get off. So I would just go down to

862
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.320
<v Speaker 4>where the pro shop was, and the guys knew that

863
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:39.280
<v Speaker 4>I was a Patty's son, so they just give me

864
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.000
<v Speaker 4>the bucket of balls, let me go out to the

865
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 4>driving range. And that's how I got to do that.

866
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:44.760
<v Speaker 4>When I was a little kid. I was never good

867
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 4>at it then, but I always thought that it was cool.

868
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:48.280
<v Speaker 4>But now when you go out and do it, like

869
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 4>you said, it's a very internal competitiveness. And even Michael

870
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.840
<v Speaker 4>Jordan has said it. When you play golf, you're really

871
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:57.440
<v Speaker 4>playing yourself, of course, and there's nothing more frustrated because

872
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 4>once you get out onto like a huge golf course

873
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:02.280
<v Speaker 4>like that and you realize, Okay, I got to get

874
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:06.599
<v Speaker 4>this ball all the way over there, just only using

875
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:10.840
<v Speaker 4>this stick, and it's like and it doesn't always just

876
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.400
<v Speaker 4>go straight, and like it's not like the Tiger Woods

877
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.599
<v Speaker 4>where you can aim at yourself. I don't know how

878
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:19.280
<v Speaker 4>people do that, because I played with my fiance's brothers

879
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.239
<v Speaker 4>are amazing at it. He's uh, he's always going on

880
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.599
<v Speaker 4>business trips during golf, and he knows how to fade stuff,

881
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:27.400
<v Speaker 4>and he knows how to get things to the right,

882
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:29.280
<v Speaker 4>and he knows how if he wants to get it

883
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.320
<v Speaker 4>on the hill or just left of the hill. And

884
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:33.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, dude, I just want to hit it in

885
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 4>the air.

886
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:37.079
<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, I may contact and the ball goes vertical.

887
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.079
<v Speaker 2>That's a win for me. And for a while people

888
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.519
<v Speaker 2>think people used to think I was like sandbagging or

889
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:47.280
<v Speaker 2>really like overcompensating. But those that have been on a

890
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:49.920
<v Speaker 2>golf course with me, there's not that many people they'll

891
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a test like, oh no, Nick's not joking. He's like

892
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 2>he's not good. Like I can't go play around to

893
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.360
<v Speaker 2>golf with people who play not even regularly, because I

894
00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:00.320
<v Speaker 2>will think, I'll I'm the guy who will missed the

895
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.039
<v Speaker 2>ball when I swing a club, like you know, and

896
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.639
<v Speaker 2>I know that's not I mean, I know that that's

897
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:06.239
<v Speaker 2>not that crazy of a thing to do, but like

898
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll then just get really mad at myself and it,

899
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then I'm out there for four hours

900
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.440
<v Speaker 2>just pounding beers, getting pissed because I suck and.

901
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 4>They're not even counting your scores at that oh yeah,

902
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:19.400
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, so just waiting for you to get done

903
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:21.360
<v Speaker 4>out of that sand trap when you're eighth shot.

904
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>We went on our trip last week. The fellas that

905
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 2>went on the trip all had a day where they

906
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 2>went golfing, and you know, they included me in the invitation,

907
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 2>and I I just I'm like, no, I can't do it.

908
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I would literally be I'd be holding you guys back,

909
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't enjoy myself and and it would be it

910
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:43.840
<v Speaker 2>would be a damper on your golf trip. So like

911
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 2>it's actually it was actually a moment of clarity for

912
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:47.800
<v Speaker 2>me to like, you know what, like don't force it, bro,

913
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:50.360
<v Speaker 2>you're not golf guy. Like you know, they they don't

914
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.000
<v Speaker 2>need you out there. And I'm.

915
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's just another way I feel like I

916
00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:59.119
<v Speaker 4>can bond with the boys, I can have something relevant

917
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.559
<v Speaker 4>to talk about or I don't know.

918
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's definitely a there's a lot of business that

919
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.920
<v Speaker 2>gets talked about over a game of golf, right, not

920
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>like everybody, but it's a pretty common like in fact,

921
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:14.119
<v Speaker 2>there's been twice in my time in this profession and

922
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.639
<v Speaker 2>what I do where we've talked to clients that have

923
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:19.320
<v Speaker 2>either been potential clients or clients that we have that

924
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I have a relationship with, and like they want around

925
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 2>a golf we'll talk about it. I'm like sure, but

926
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.239
<v Speaker 2>like here's what you're in for. And you know, I

927
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:30.800
<v Speaker 2>just got to be like, because this is what I

928
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>this is what because my friends even are like, dude,

929
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you're not like it's not that big of a deal.

930
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:36.880
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I'm not saying like I'm the worst person,

931
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm the worst player ever and that like I would

932
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>ruin anybody's experience, but like I'm clearly not I'm clearly

933
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:44.719
<v Speaker 2>like the weak link of any group that you would

934
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 2>that you would be around right, And you know, it

935
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 2>was a moment of clarity for me to realize, like,

936
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:51.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what I don't like, I'm not going to

937
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:54.440
<v Speaker 2>force it, and you know, golf will be fine, just

938
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 2>fine without me. But the one thing I really wish

939
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I had, because I've had this argument before, when it

940
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 2>comes to like horse racing, I don't believe that you

941
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:04.880
<v Speaker 2>need to have knowledge of the sport of horse racing

942
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.639
<v Speaker 2>around here to talk Derby, because Derby is so much

943
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.159
<v Speaker 2>bigger than just that race. Now, clearly, when you get

944
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:12.480
<v Speaker 2>close to the race, you talk about the actual race itself,

945
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the field, that kind of stuff, and I can you know,

946
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:16.920
<v Speaker 2>at least reference that and tell you who the favorites

947
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.559
<v Speaker 2>are that kind of stuff. But we all force it

948
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.599
<v Speaker 2>around here. I used to do it as far as

949
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:23.199
<v Speaker 2>thinking we have to talk about like the sport of

950
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:25.480
<v Speaker 2>horse racing, and maybe, clearly there are people who are

951
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:28.559
<v Speaker 2>interested in that, but like ninety nine percent of the

952
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:31.119
<v Speaker 2>people who listen to shows like this throughout the year,

953
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:34.480
<v Speaker 2>what do they know They're not getting throughout the year

954
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:37.920
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, talk about horse racing. So I'll

955
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:39.920
<v Speaker 2>always defend myself when it comes to that. Now, when

956
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:42.199
<v Speaker 2>it comes to golf. It is the one thing that

957
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I do believe is a good talking point for radio

958
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:47.679
<v Speaker 2>here and there. I mean, it's not something you can

959
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 2>really just do a to mean, I don't think you

960
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:50.920
<v Speaker 2>can spend a whole show breaking down one of the

961
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.239
<v Speaker 2>major tournaments, but like I should know enough to be

962
01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 2>dangerous to at least have a conversation. And what I

963
01:00:57.280 --> 01:00:59.199
<v Speaker 2>can tell you in the last year that happened in

964
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.719
<v Speaker 2>golf that's notable is that Scottie Schefler came to Louisville

965
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and he got arrested. Like that's yeah, that's all I got.

966
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.679
<v Speaker 4>There's turmoil like that, and there's obviously you know everything

967
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:11.119
<v Speaker 4>that that live live tournament and you got everything with that,

968
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:13.159
<v Speaker 4>and plus they got their own Netflix show now so

969
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 4>you can kind of see some Bryce and Deshambeau.

970
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:18.119
<v Speaker 2>I will say this, it doesn't really appeal to me.

971
01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 2>And we'll get into this later because I do actually

972
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 2>have a list of things that like will surprise you

973
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.559
<v Speaker 2>about the Masters itself. But like again, I'm not complaining.

974
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm fine without golf. Golf is clearly fine

975
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.000
<v Speaker 2>without me, but it's not real inviting, you know what

976
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean? It's it's a snob sport, is it not.

977
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you spend a lot of money, and that's what's

978
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:38.840
<v Speaker 4>gonna that's what's kind of gonna deter you from cause

979
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.960
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna have fun when you play. There's gonna be

980
01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:42.719
<v Speaker 4>that one shot where you're like, all right, you know what,

981
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.119
<v Speaker 4>I can do this, and you're gonna realize, Okay, if

982
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.000
<v Speaker 4>I want to come do this again, I gotta If

983
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:48.639
<v Speaker 4>I want to get better, I gotta come do this again.

984
01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:50.960
<v Speaker 4>If I do this again, I gotta come spend one

985
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:51.679
<v Speaker 4>hundred dollars.

986
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:53.000
<v Speaker 2>And you have to spend a whole day.

987
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's a whole day, a lot of money,

988
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.000
<v Speaker 4>and then you're gonna eventually want to go get clubs

989
01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:58.039
<v Speaker 4>and gear and all that.

990
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's can be expensive. People who love it like

991
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:02.800
<v Speaker 2>they love it, they make it like their personality and

992
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:04.880
<v Speaker 2>that's fine. So again, disclaimer before we get to the

993
01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:06.280
<v Speaker 2>top of the hour break here, which we're late for.

994
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:09.639
<v Speaker 2>If you like it and you love it, cool, Like

995
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying there's anything wrong with golf. I just

996
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:15.360
<v Speaker 2>know that it's not for me. And you know, it's

997
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:19.320
<v Speaker 2>another one of those things about the golf world when

998
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 2>you tell people like, you don't follow it, you don't play,

999
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:23.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't care. The ones who are really into it

1000
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:25.320
<v Speaker 2>are like, what the hell's wrong with this guy? It's okay,

1001
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's things that you know, I'm into that.

1002
01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:30.079
<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of others are that you aren't.

1003
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:32.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, everybody's got their own thing. It's my one weakness.

1004
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I kid, I got a lot of weaknesses, but it's

1005
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.039
<v Speaker 2>one of the things when it comes to like being

1006
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 2>dangerous enough to talk sports at the water cooler with

1007
01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:43.280
<v Speaker 2>people like I got. I mean, my wife would be

1008
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:47.440
<v Speaker 2>as as knowledgeable about golf as me, which isn't much

1009
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:49.559
<v Speaker 2>so anyways, two more hours left. Stick with us right

1010
01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:59.559
<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety