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Here today, I'm 10 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.679 headed back into the butt of world video Bible school 11 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:36.600 and looking at a video called five Reasons Atheism Fails, 12 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:38.399 And since I want to make sure my beliefs are 13 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.159 in line with reality, if atheism fails, then I want 14 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:41.840 to know about it. 15 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:42.840 So let's take a look. 16 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:45.600 First, I should probably clarify that I you did the 17 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:47.520 butt thing at the beginning, because it's Kyle Butt and 18 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:49.679 he's got a funny last name. Haha, I'm a child 19 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.679 roll the intro. But first a word from our sponsor, 20 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.439 surf Shark. Are you worried about privacy on the Internet 21 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.159 in this day and age? 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This is a limited time offer, so 48 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.359 sign up today and remember by signing up for search 49 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:06.840 Tark VPN, you're helping to support my channel, so thank you. 50 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:18.120 Every system of belief or unbelief in the world carries 51 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:22.719 with it certain implications that if the belief system is true, 52 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.840 then those implications must be true. 53 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:28.240 As will I don't know that I know enough about 54 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.479 every possible belief system to be so absolutist about it, 55 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.439 but caveating aside, yes, I can agree with that. I mean, 56 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.039 I guess you could even universalize it without knowing every 57 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.280 possible belief system by getting all reductionist. If the atheist 58 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:44.280 belief system is true, for instance, then an obvious implication 59 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.680 of that is that there is no God, and that 60 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:49.639 cannot be the case unless atheism is true. But here 61 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.560 in lies another catch. Many atheists, myself included, would actually 62 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.159 argue that atheism is not actually a belief system per se. 63 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:00.360 Certainly there are atheists that can and do use their 64 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.360 atheism to inform their belief system, but this is not 65 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:06.680 a required part of atheism. Atheism is the answer to 66 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:10.280 one single question, do you believe in God? If the 67 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:13.039 answer is no, then you're still an atheist, regardless of 68 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:14.520 what other belief systems you may hold. 69 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.080 One way to show the belief system to be flawed 70 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:20.919 is to show that the implications are false. 71 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.039 Yes, if you can show that a God exists, then 72 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:27.120 you will have successfully shown atheism to fail. Not sure 73 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.159 what else could show atheism to be false. I mean, 74 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:31.759 pick any topic and you'll find atheists on either side 75 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:34.919 of it. Granted, for topics that are highly influenced by religion, 76 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.479 there is frequently one side that is larger than the other, 77 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:40.360 but you can still find them on both sides. Case 78 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:44.319 in point, there is an organization called Republican Atheists, atheists 79 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.159 who actively support the party that is most closely aligned 80 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:49.840 with Christian nationalism. I don't know how they square their 81 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.199 non belief with supporting the party most vocal about wanting 82 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:54.800 them to not exist, but there you have it. 83 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.479 The idea that God doesn't exist implies several ideas that 84 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:00.800 can't be true. 85 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.039 It's not so much that it implies several ideas, it's 86 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:06.280 more that it negates the implications put forward by the 87 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.639 various theistic world views. For instance, when an apologist says 88 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.400 that it's okay to kill children because God commanded it. 89 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.240 If there is no God, then the implication there is 90 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:18.000 that it is not okay to kill children. But there 91 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:21.680 is no atheist command to exterminate believers or whatever, so 92 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:23.360 it doesn't really work in the reverse. 93 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:30.920 Let's look at five reasons that atheism fails. First, atheism 94 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:34.160 implies that human free will doesn't exist. 95 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.720 Christianity implies that as well. If there is an all knowing, 96 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:40.759 all powerful entity who knows everything you are going to 97 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:42.879 do in the future, and is also the entity that 98 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.839 created everything in the first place, then free will cannot exist. 99 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:49.600 You cannot make the choices other than the ones that 100 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:53.160 this entity already knows that you are going to make. Atheism, 101 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.160 on the other hand, leaves it as an open question. 102 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:57.879 It could be that everything that happens in the universe 103 00:04:58.000 --> 00:04:59.800 is the result of a causal chain going back to 104 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.319 the initial state of the universe, where if you knew 105 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:04.920 the position and velocity of every single particle at the 106 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:08.160 origin of the universe, then you could hypothetically calculate every 107 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.480 future event in the universe. But it also could be 108 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.600 that there are some aspects of reality that are truly random, 109 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.720 thus allowing for multiple potential outcomes given the same inputs, 110 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:20.839 leaving open the possibility that we actually do have free will. 111 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:23.319 As far as I know, this is still an unanswered 112 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:26.639 question either way. The existence or non existence of free 113 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.560 will is not actually an implication that comes along with atheism. 114 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:36.480 Atheistic biologist William Probyne stated naturalistic evolution has clear consequences. 115 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:41.879 Human free will is non existent. Renowned atheist Sam Harrish 116 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.600 wrote an entire book on the subject of human free will, 117 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:49.160 and he stated free will is an illusion. Our wills 118 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:51.920 simply are not of our own making. 119 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:56.319 Yeah, okay, you can find atheists arguing against free will, 120 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.360 but you can also find atheist arguing for free will. 121 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.279 Down to is a question of the nature of reality, 122 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:06.279 is it entirely deterministic or not? And we don't have 123 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.000 a solid answer to this question. But all that's kind 124 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.680 of beside the point. Anyway. You said that this is 125 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.639 atheism failing. If I agree that the existence of free 126 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.959 will means that atheism fails, then what have we accomplished here? 127 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.920 Until free will is demonstrated to actually be a real 128 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:24.439 thing that exists, nothing, Honestly, the same is true of Christians. 129 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:26.720 Not all of them believe in free will. Have you 130 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:29.839 heard of Calvinism, Kyle? I know, strictly speaking, if you 131 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:31.959 ask them, they'll tell you that free will is a thing. 132 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:34.720 It's just that without divine intervention, our fallen natures will 133 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:37.519 always choose to do evil. So every time someone does 134 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.600 something not evil, that is God actively intervening to make 135 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:42.639 them go against their will. But that feels like a 136 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:45.839 distinction without a difference. My point is there are Christians 137 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:47.879 on both sides of this issue, just like there are 138 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:50.920 atheists on both sides of this issue. So I don't 139 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:52.839 know what you even think you're accomplishing here. 140 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:58.120 These atheists did me that if free will exists, then 141 00:06:58.160 --> 00:06:59.120 atheism is false. 142 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.519 Yes, those particular atheists are of that opinion, or at 143 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:05.680 least some of them are. I've seen Kyle take quotes 144 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:07.839 out of context before. It wouldn't surprise me at all 145 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:10.160 if some of those were actually just additional victims of 146 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:13.439 his quote mining, But the point is so insignificant that 147 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:15.319 I don't feel the need to check up on every 148 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:17.319 quote to make sure it was an accurate representation of 149 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:17.920 their beliefs. 150 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:22.600 Their solution is to deny human free will. However, the 151 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.519 fact that you're choosing to watch this video right now 152 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:28.000 proves you have free will? 153 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.240 Does it? If free will is an illusion and my 154 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.759 choices are ultimately determined by my current position in a 155 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:37.079 cascade of physical interactions, then I had no choice but 156 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.439 to watch this video, and the feeling that I did 157 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.160 have a choice is an illusion. Just because a choice 158 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.720 feels like a free one does not mean that it 159 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:47.480 is so. Even if I grant your premise, you have 160 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:49.839 yet to demonstrate that free will is actually a real thing. 161 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:54.360 If humans do have free will by all accounts, atheism 162 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:55.519 is false. 163 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:59.079 By some accounts. Just because you ignored the accounts that 164 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:02.360 disagree with yourclusion doesn't mean that all accounts are in 165 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:03.079 agreement with you. 166 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:08.040 Second, according to atheism, if humans don't have free will, 167 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:10.800 then they can't be held responsible for their actions. 168 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:14.800 Counterpoints, If humans don't have free will, then when we 169 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.319 hold each other accountable for our actions, we don't have 170 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:20.319 any choice in the matter, because you know, no free will. 171 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:24.240 If atheism is true, there's no such thing as human 172 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.680 moral responsibility. 173 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:31.000 Perhaps, but the illusion of moral responsibility would still be there. 174 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:33.519 And it's not like we could do anything differently anyway, 175 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:35.919 if you're right, of course, which is not a settled matter. 176 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:40.919 Atheistic biologist Jerry Coyn, in a speech titled you Don't 177 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:45.799 Have free Will, stated I don't consider myself morally responsible 178 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:47.759 because I don't have a choice. 179 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:50.919 Well, maybe that's why he contributed to a book edited 180 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:53.360 by Lawrence Krauss, long after it became known that Krauss 181 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:55.879 is a sex pest, and he deleted his blog post 182 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:58.080 explaining that he would dissociate from Kraus in light of 183 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:00.720 the credible nature of the allegations, as well as additional 184 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.440 allegations that Coin was aware of that were not public. 185 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:06.159 It's not really relevant here, but I mean, come on, 186 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:08.559 if he didn't have free will, then he had no 187 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.759 choice but to contribute to Kraus's book whining about cancel culture. 188 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:14.240 But it's always nice to know that the apologists are 189 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:15.879 picking the cream of the crop when it comes to 190 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:17.600 actually representing atheists. 191 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.200 You see, if we don't have a choice, then we 192 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.080 aren't responsible. But each one of us knows that we 193 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.440 have felt very real guilt when we've chosen to do 194 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.200 things that we knew were wrong. 195 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.960 So far, for points one and two we have I 196 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:37.559 feel like the atheist position is wrong. Therefore atheism is wrong. 197 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:40.440 He hasn't even stumbled his way up to the argument 198 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:42.279 from consequences that this is supposed to be. 199 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.799 If humans can be held morally responsible for their behavior, 200 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:49.879 atheism can't be true. 201 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:53.320 Donald Trump is still president of the United States. Ergo, 202 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:55.879 atheism is true. That's at least as good an argument 203 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:57.919 as any he's made. 204 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.919 Third, according to atheism, real objective moral right and wrong 205 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:03.519 can't exist. 206 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.879 Again, it depends on which atheist you ask. Though at 207 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:09.279 least this is a position that I personally hold, so 208 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:12.200 it's progress, I guess for me at least. 209 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.879 Charles Darwin stated that if a person doesn't believe in God, 210 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:19.559 he can have for his rule of life, as far 211 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:23.120 as I can see, only to follow those impulses and 212 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:26.919 instincts which are the strongest, or which seem to him 213 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:28.120 the best ones. 214 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:30.840 Let's go ahead and finish that quote. Apologies, it is 215 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.320 a bit of a lengthy one quote. A dog acts 216 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:35.799 in this manner, but he does so blindly. A man, 217 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:38.399 on the other hand, looks forwards and backwards and compares 218 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:41.519 his various feelings, desires, and recollections. He then finds, in 219 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.639 accordance with the verdict of all the wisest men, that 220 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:47.039 the highest satisfaction is derived from following certain impulses, namely 221 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.879 the social instincts. If he acts for the good of others, 222 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:52.399 he will receive the approbation of his fellow men and 223 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:54.840 gain the love of those with whom he lives, And 224 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.240 this latter gain, undoubtedly is the highest pleasure on this earth. 225 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.000 By degrees, it will become in tolerable to him to 226 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.960 obey his sensuous passions rather than his higher impulses, which, 227 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:08.679 when rendered habitual, may be almost called instincts. His reason 228 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:10.799 may occasionally tell him to act in opposition to the 229 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.720 opinion of others, whose approbation he will then not receive, 230 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.320 but he will still have the solid satisfaction of knowing 231 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:20.840 that he has followed his innermost guide or conscience. So yes, 232 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.679 there is no moral objective standard. But Darwin described a 233 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.320 moral philosophy that came to be known as enlightened self interest, 234 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:30.639 the idea that doing good to other people will, on balance, 235 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.679 result in better outcomes for yourself. If I help other 236 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:35.759 people when they need it, they will be more likely 237 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:37.720 to help me when I need it. Also, it just 238 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:39.799 feels good to do good deeds, so why wouldn't you. 239 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:44.840 If it's true that it is objectively wrong to murder 240 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:49.279 innocent people just for fun, then by all accounts, atheism 241 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:51.320 can't be true. 242 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.919 And we once again see an apologist using the addition 243 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:57.879 of the for fun modifier. There. Surely the ancient Israelites 244 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:59.720 who were enacting the will of God didn't do it 245 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:01.840 for fee fun, so it was okay for them to 246 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.720 murder babies. We know that it's objectively wrong to torture 247 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:06.600 inferance for fun. 248 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:10.360 Every one of us knows that torturing an innocent baby 249 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:14.120 for fun is wrong, as do we understand that torturing 250 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:16.759 babies for fun is really wrong, that it's truly always 251 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:18.360 wrong to torture a baby for fun. 252 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:21.200 And if my timing works out properly for this video, 253 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:24.039 my last two videos will have gone into much greater 254 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:27.480 detail about how this line of thinking convinces Christians that 255 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:30.919 modern day atrocities are morally good. Is that a world 256 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:32.799 you want to live in? Kyle? This is not one 257 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:33.519 that I want to live in. 258 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:41.240 Fourth, if atheism mistrue human life is meaningless, incorrect. My 259 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.919 life has a lot of meaning to me, and I'd 260 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:45.200 like to think that it means a lot to my 261 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.399 loved ones as well. The fact that this meaning will 262 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.960 not persist very long after my death does not mean 263 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.879 that it is meaningless. It's just meaningless to people whose 264 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.399 lives will be meaningless to me because I'll be dead, 265 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:00.000 you see. Atheist Alex Rosenberg wrote what is the person 266 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:04.919 of the universe? In his book The Atheists Guide to Reality? 267 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:09.759 He stated, there is none? What is the meaning of life? Ditto? 268 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.960 There is no ultimate purpose to the universe, and our 269 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.080 lives are not given meaning by some higher power. But 270 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.960 that doesn't mean that our lives are meaningless. It just 271 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.120 means that the meaning is not assigned to us by 272 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:23.639 a third party. We get to determine that for ourselves. 273 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:29.600 Meaning there is none. Atheist Graham Lawton, the executive editor 274 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.679 of New Scientist magazine, wrote a very brief article titled 275 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.960 the Meaning of Life. His first line read, the harsh 276 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:41.840 answer is it has not sure. 277 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.639 The only meaning your life has is that which you 278 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:48.000 give it. I don't see this as harsh necessarily, but 279 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:51.279 if you thought your life had some eternal, transcendent meaning, 280 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:53.559 then I guess it could come across that way. 281 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:57.960 Dan Barker wrote, you and I are like ants or 282 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.840 rats or pieces of Really, in the big picture, we 283 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:05.679 are no different than a piece of broccoli in the 284 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:11.159 cosmic sense. If a human life has more objective value 285 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:14.799 than a stalk of broccoli, atheism can't be true. 286 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:19.480 Okay, well, what is the objective measuring stick by which 287 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.440 we would measure human life and broccoli? As a human 288 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:25.600 I am perfectly comfortable agreeing that we humans are more 289 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:29.200 important broccoli. But that is a subjective determination. What is 290 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:31.720 your proposed measuring stick that would make it objective? Even 291 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:36.000 if God is real, God's opinion, that's subjective. Again, it's 292 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.519 just God's opinion. Sure, you can say that God's opinion 293 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:40.600 is more important than ours if you want, but that 294 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:41.799 doesn't make it objective. 295 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:47.159 Fith Atheism demands that nothing spiritual or supernatural exists in 296 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:47.600 the world. 297 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:51.360 No it doesn't. I mean, I don't believe that anything 298 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.200 supernatural or spiritual exists, but I know atheists who believe 299 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.080 in things like ghosts. Checkmate. 300 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:59.399 I guess now that would mean humans have no soul. 301 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.639 Correct, We're all a bunch of soullesss bastards. 302 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.000 It would imply there's no such thing as real love. 303 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:10.919 Incorrect. Real love is an emotion that we experience. Experiences 304 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.519 are real, even if souls aren't. 305 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:16.240 Or courage or virtue. 306 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:19.240 If we don't have a soul, then I guess none 307 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:23.039 of us have thoughts, opinions, or emotions. Kyle does know 308 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.679 that brains exist, right, and that they're super duper complicated, 309 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:31.399 like complicated enough to explain thoughts, opinions, and emotions. I mean, 310 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.480 given what's come out of the world Video Bible School, 311 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:35.080 it wouldn't surprise me to learn that they don't believe 312 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:38.240 in brains. But yeah, this point of his is refuted 313 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:40.240 by the existence of brains. 314 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.519 But what we call love or virtue would just be 315 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.759 a mechanism to pass on our genetic information. 316 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:51.720 If you're super reductive about it, I guess yeah, But 317 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.799 that doesn't mean that I don't still experience the thoughts 318 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:57.759 and feelings that I experience. If I'm reductive about my 319 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:00.360 YouTube channel, it is simply a mechanism to put food 320 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:02.679 on the table. But that doesn't mean that I don't 321 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:04.879 also derive joy from what I do, or that the 322 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:07.519 people who watch the videos experience whatever thoughts and feelings 323 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.440 keep them watching. Just because something can be reduced to 324 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.559 a single, uninspiring fact does not mean that there aren't 325 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:17.480 other aspects of that thing that are significant. 326 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:20.200 In a very real sense. If you have ever really 327 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:24.679 unselfishly loved another person, atheism can't be true. 328 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.960 Well, that's just a load of shit. What's next? 329 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.399 Ultimately, atheism strips humanity of everything that makes us human. 330 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.080 And I guess the concluding recap is, what's next? Okay? Well, 331 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:39.960 if there is no God, then we have defined what 332 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:41.919 it is to be human, and we have done so 333 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:45.000 by observing traits that we share. But hey, at least 334 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.919 Kyle is pro choice, right after all, most of this 335 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:50.360 that he said makes us human are things that embryos 336 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:53.879 do not have. They don't experience love or virtue or 337 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:57.639 well anything. Since that's what makes us human, then in 338 00:16:57.720 --> 00:16:59.960 Kyle's worldview, abortion must be okay. 339 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:05.319 It denies our free will, our moral responsibility, and sense 340 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:07.319 of real right and wrong. 341 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.039 Free will is a debate. Moral responsibility is a social construct, 342 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.599 as are our senses of right and wrong. Now that 343 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:16.799 isn't to say that these things aren't important. Quite the contrary, 344 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.839 social constructs of all kinds are incredibly important to our 345 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.519 day to day lives. Like money, Money is a social construct. 346 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.480 Without a society saying that money is valuable, then the 347 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.200 papers that represent money are not valuable. But obviously money 348 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.200 is important. So don't confuse my saying that morality is 349 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:35.559 a social construct with the idea that morality does not 350 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:36.960 exist or is not important. 351 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.599 It robs our lives of purpose and any real meaning. 352 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.079 It robs our lives of the imposed purpose of suck 353 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.240 God's back. We get to choose our own purpose and meaning, 354 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.000 and that is far more valuable to me than believing 355 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:53.880 that worshiping a being that logically shouldn't even need worship 356 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:55.720 in the first place is my meaning. 357 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:01.279 And it slanders every commendable attitude of love, virtue, and 358 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:05.440 kindness as a manipulation strategy we used to pass on 359 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:06.599 our DNA. 360 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:09.680 One specific moral philosophy can be seen that way if 361 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:13.240 you are incredibly reductionist about it. Yeah, but that is 362 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:16.440 not the only moral philosophy compatible with atheism. Your lack 363 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:19.640 of knowledge regarding moral philosophy does not prove atheism wrong. 364 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:24.680 In light of this information, C. S. Lewis's conclusion as 365 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:31.680 he abandoned atheism still rings true. Consequently, atheism turns out 366 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:33.680 to be too simple. 367 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.279 So Ockham's razor sides with atheism. Okay, I'll take it. 368 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:40.839 That's it for this one. Today's comment to the day 369 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:44.240 comes just from Andrew Sangling, who says, what genocide. I 370 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.000 wish people would stop spreading this BS, do better and 371 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.720 check the facts. This was on my video from a 372 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:52.519 couple of weeks ago where Frank Turrek defended the biblical genocides, 373 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:54.599 and I pointed out that we shouldn't be surprised that 374 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:57.240 Turrek also defends the genocide that Israel is doing in 375 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:00.920 Gaza right now, now, Andrew, if you had been paying 376 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.400 attention to the video, you might have heard me say 377 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.319 this genocide and yes, it is a genocide. This is 378 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:09.920 not me using hyperbolic language to make Frank look bad. 379 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.480 This is the conclusion arrived at by institutions like the 380 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:16.680 United Nations and the International Association of Genocide Scholars. I'm 381 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:19.160 not really sure what more fact checking you would want 382 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.319 other than the consensus of scholars specializing in genocide and 383 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:24.839 the conclusion drawn by UN commission that spent two years 384 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.759 studying the situation specifically to determine whether or not it 385 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.599 was a genocide. More to the point, you offered no 386 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.039 sources credible or otherwise to counter the conclusion that it 387 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:36.920 is a genocide. Thanks for watching. Don't forget to go 388 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.720 to surf shark dot com slash Rhino for an extra 389 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:40.799 four months for free. 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