WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:04.879 All right, welcome, welcome, everybody, welcome the show. This is 2 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:10.279 Hesher for boiler Room. We are coming in hot with 3 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:15.439 some breaking news here. It looks like some shit is 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:20.960 going down over at the Unite the Right rally that's 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:26.640 happening in Charlottesville, Virginia. All kinds of crazy stuff happening 6 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:30.359 there this afternoon. Andy Nowicki of the Boiler Room is 7 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:35.560 out there on the ground and there is a lot 8 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.520 of chaos happening right now. We're trying to raise Andy 9 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:43.200 on the skype. I'm joined by Funk Soul fellow boiler 10 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:44.560 Room or here with me. Folks, are you. 11 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:47.960 There, Yes, I'm here, Hesha, good to be with you. 12 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.119 All right, okay, thanks for joining us on short notice. 13 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:54.479 Looks like we've got some crazy stuff breaking here while 14 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:59.640 we're trying to raise mister Nowicki. Let's let's just go 15 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:01.520 to our tea right now to see what's happening. It 16 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:05.799 appears that a vehicle has driven into a crowd of 17 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:09.359 people and looks like there are definitely some injuries here. 18 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.680 So let's see what's going on here on this live stream. 19 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:16.400 That's great for democracy, but we need to have the 20 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:21.040 maturity and the result to reject all forms of violence 21 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.040 within that political structure. 22 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:26.319 Alvin, appreciate you coming on our tea to give us 23 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:31.040 your thoughts on this this horrific event today in Shartsville, Virginia. 24 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:35.480 I guess Ivin bought from the Libertarian National Committee, and 25 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:39.879 through throughout that interview, we've been showing you these disturbing 26 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:44.640 images coming from the incident where at least one we're 27 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:47.200 actually hearing reports three cars may have been involved in this, 28 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:52.840 plowing their way through a crowd of anti far protesters 29 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.920 there in Charlottesville, Virginia. Police is saying that there are 30 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.359 at least six people injured. Earlier, we spoke to Auntie 31 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.239 America's Alex Rubinstein. 32 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:04.959 He was at the scene. He witnessed what happened when he. 33 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:05.920 Knew the mark was coming. 34 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.199 I'm not sure how it worked physically, but the person 35 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:11.039 in front, from what I hear, was able to drive 36 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.560 away and was followed by a state trooper. That was 37 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:15.479 told to me by an NBC reporter. I didn't see 38 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:18.879 that personally. I saw, I saw, I didn't. I saw 39 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:24.439 two cars that were totaled. The trunk was just completely smashed. 40 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.919 A woman was inside crying. There was there was blood 41 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:29.560 on the hood of her vehicle. There was blood all 42 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:33.080 over the place. People, about sixteen people injured. I saw, 43 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:35.479 I saw some of them flying through the air over 44 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:40.080 the hood of the car. And I'm hearing actually one, 45 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:43.120 one possible fatality. I can't confirm that, but that's that's 46 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.120 what I've been hearing on the ground. And I also 47 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:47.800 care about sixteen people injured total. 48 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.680 Has there been any suggestion at this point as to 49 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:54.199 who the victims were The people who were hit by 50 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:57.719 this car. Were they right wing protesters or the counter protesters? 51 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.360 No, no, they were counterprotes They were more of the 52 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:05.240 Antifa variety. They weren't breaking things or anything like that. 53 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:09.719 They were marching through a very very small road. It's 54 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.719 a one way and they had just a big number 55 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.400 of people in that stretch, and the car just plowed 56 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:17.599 through three cars, actually plowed through. 57 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:18.719 Two of them. 58 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.039 It appears to be unintentionally one of them, and it 59 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:22.319 appears to be very intentional. 60 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.599 I mean, this sounds like an horrific scene. Lots of 61 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:27.919 people injured by the sound. What have the authorities done 62 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.560 about this? I would imagine they would place down into 63 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.080 something like this people. 64 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:36.080 Well, it's not completely locked down. I mean, streets have 65 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.840 been shut off on and off all day in Charlottesville. 66 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.960 They were originally fire trucks came down and even a 67 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.120 bear cat. The bear Cat was the first vehicle to 68 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.919 respond after reports had started coming out of this of 69 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:54.960 this incident, and then later on some ambulances were able 70 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:57.719 to show off after about like seven to ten minutes 71 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:01.039 or so. I hear Don Trump is going to give 72 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.879 a speech later tonight say something about this. 73 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:06.120 But it seems a lot. 74 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:09.159 Okay, Okay, We've got Andy Willie join us on the 75 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:13.680 scene over there in Charlottesville, Virginia. Andy, NOWICKI are you there? 76 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:16.560 I'm here, all right. 77 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.199 So our first of all, glad you're safe. It seems 78 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:22.360 like there's some crazy stuff happening down there. Are you 79 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:27.040 anywhere near this this incident with the car plowing into people? 80 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:31.759 I know, well, I have no idea about that at all. 81 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.759 I first heard about it on our I guess our 82 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:40.360 communication by skype Jay said something about it, and I 83 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:42.399 didn't know about it at all, And then the clip 84 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.680 you just played is the first first I've heard about it. 85 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:48.680 Yeah, it looks pretty crazy. They're saying three cars were 86 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:54.439 involved and potentially up to sixteen people injured, potential fatality. 87 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:56.199 I don't know. It's at that stage right now where 88 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:01.519 we're not really getting much information, but the images are crazy. 89 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:06.680 There's definitely uh cars with what appears to be blood 90 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:11.279 on them and damage to the front. So something. 91 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:12.920 It is. 92 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.279 It is an ugly, ugly scene here. I can say 93 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:17.720 that much what I've seen. 94 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.279 Let us give us a Actually, I'm gonna play a 95 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.839 clip here. I've got a clip that you recorded. Let 96 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:24.639 me just play this to kind of set the mood 97 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:28.000 for people who are just tuning in here. This is 98 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:32.079 available up on Andy Nowiki's YouTube page. You can find 99 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.439 him on YouTube. Just type in Andy no Wiki. Uh. 100 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.920 But this is something he recorded just earlier today. 101 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.560 This is what a police state looks like. This is 102 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:47.680 a police state. I have the constitution. There is nice 103 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:50.879 all that we get to to. We're we're permitted to 104 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:59.079 assemble these armed thugs of the stage for breaking up 105 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.959 the age a gathering. 106 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:05.040 They're breaking up a gathering. 107 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.199 Back, tell me the reason why why? What is the 108 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.319 reason why this No, I'm not moving back until you 109 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.160 tell me why there was a permit for this for 110 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:15.759 this rally? 111 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:17.800 Why was this permit revoked at the last minute. 112 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:18.639 How is that lawful? 113 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:19.720 How is that lawful? 114 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:20.839 How is that lawful? 115 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:22.040 How is that lawful? 116 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:29.160 You know, don't push me, don't push me, has off me? 117 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:35.040 This is a lawful assembly. 118 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:36.240 You are unlawful. 119 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:37.920 You are unlawful. 120 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:39.839 You are unlawful. 121 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:43.279 The whole world is seeing this. 122 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:52.360 I'm leaving. I'm leaving. 123 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:53.399 I'm leaving. 124 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:02.160 Okay, okay, So tell us what's going on here so 125 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.519 the radio listeners can get a feel for what just 126 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:05.120 happened there. 127 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:15.120 We got a little Alex jonesy there, I guess. 128 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.079 Starting up a mosh pit with a bunch of riot 129 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:14.759 cops there. 130 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:21.480 But well that's the let I actually made three different videos. 131 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:22.399 That was the last of them. 132 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:29.519 And I was really there in the capacity of I mean, 133 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:33.639 I'm sympathetic to the marchers, but you know, I'm not 134 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:36.759 a member of any of the groups that are marching, 135 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:39.360 and so I was sort of going to be I 136 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:45.759 was here representing the sympathetic media, but I wasn't really 137 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:48.000 I had no plan to get in the thick of 138 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:52.079 things and you know, bust anybody's heads or you know, 139 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.240 if things got ugly. I didn't intend to, you know, 140 00:07:56.360 --> 00:08:01.240 take part in anything. But but I really what happened 141 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.680 was I mean, it was it was a It was 142 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.319 an ugly, ugly scene from the start. And the more 143 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:09.920 I think about it now, the more it seems like 144 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.199 the local authorities it was just set. 145 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:12.560 Up to fail. 146 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.199 Of course, they tried to make it so that the 147 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:19.199 rally wasn't even gonna happen, even though there was a 148 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:22.920 lawful permit that was gotten to hold the stage's rally 149 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:27.519 in in Lee Park, which is where the the statue 150 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.439 of Robert E. Lee is that the city now wants 151 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:34.320 to tear down. Uh, so that they were gonna rally there. 152 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.679 They got a permit and then the city council tried 153 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.360 to revoke it, and then actually the a c l 154 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.440 U of all groups stepped in and said, no, that's 155 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.919 not that's not fair, that's that's not lawful. Uh you 156 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:51.759 know they have they're permitted to assemble and that's that. 157 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:57.519 So so it was it was on, but everything was 158 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:01.559 just totally chaotic. It was just it was what do 159 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.279 they say in the military, fou bar. Yes, it was 160 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:09.759 fu bar to the max. You know, I was walking 161 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:11.960 up from you know, I was with a group. I 162 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:14.399 was sort of embedded like a journalist in the you know, 163 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.240 uh in in in in wartime. 164 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:18.559 I was sort of like that. 165 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:22.480 I was with these guys who were members of these groups. 166 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.159 The Traditionalist Workers Party was the group that I was 167 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.759 mainly with. There were a couple other ones around as well, 168 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.320 and we uh, we all marched down and you know, 169 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.200 uh uh started in a parking deck, marched onto the 170 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.000 street and then immediately when we turned the corner and 171 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:42.799 the protesters were there. 172 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:45.240 The Antifa were there, and. 173 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:48.559 They were of course extremely belligerent, which you would expect. 174 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.759 But what I didn't expect was there there were absolutely 175 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:59.519 no cops. Like in this crucial spot where you turned 176 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.440 the corner and come up the steps to get to 177 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:04.519 the where the monument is where the rally was going 178 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.279 to be, they were standing in the way, and so 179 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.240 there was pushing and shoving because. 180 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.840 The the the the people attending the event wanted to 181 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.519 get there, and and you know, these jerks were standing 182 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:19.039 in the way and yelling things at them and spitting 183 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:19.360 at them. 184 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.679 And how big was the crowd there? 185 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:24.759 Uh? 186 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.240 You know, I took video of the crowd as well. 187 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:34.399 I would say there was maybe I'm guessing maybe one 188 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:39.039 hundred and fifty two hundred people something like that, angry protesters. 189 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:40.720 You know, of course some of them were. 190 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.360 Not all of them were were belligerent, Not all of 191 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.480 them were violent, not all of them were throwing things, 192 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:51.919 but but a good a goodly number of them were. 193 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.000 And it was total anarchy because there was nobody. There 194 00:10:55.000 --> 00:11:00.320 were no law enforcement officials there to clear up path. 195 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:05.200 There was no escort, there was no you know, there 196 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.960 were no cops there saying okay, step aside, let these 197 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:13.360 people through so they can lawfully enter the area where. 198 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:19.120 The ie like, we lost connection a little bit there, Andy, Well, 199 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:22.320 looks like he dropped. Okay, we're gonna try to reconnect. Andy, 200 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.799 go ahead, funks off. If you got an update for us. 201 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:28.039 There has been a connection a short time ago via 202 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:29.840 the zero Hedge news. 203 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:30.559 Why are you guys? 204 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:35.720 There is one confirmed fatality so far, many injured after 205 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.840 the coplad into the protesters earlier in Charlotte's Charlottesville. The 206 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:44.720 driver is currently in custody. The mayor of Charlottesville has 207 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:48.200 confirmed the fatality. He has said, I quote, I am 208 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.639 heartbroken that a life has been lost here. 209 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.519 I urge all people of goodwill go home. 210 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.080 Jes Sessions as is due to statements saying that we 211 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:03.960 stand united behind the president and conduct the violence in Charlottesville. Also, 212 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.600 there was apparently reported up to nine people on the 213 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.679 ground in total, and they don't know whether it was 214 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:14.039 a man or a woman who was the victim of 215 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:20.039 this fatality. The license plates are Ohio based and the 216 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.519 make of the vehicle is reported to be a twenty 217 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.000 ten Dodge Challenger, So it's starting to get quite a detailed. 218 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.200 Now, Okay, all right, wow, okay, Andy, Nowicky, are you back? 219 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:30.399 I'm back? 220 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:32.799 Sorry about that, Okay, yeah, no problem. We're just getting 221 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:34.759 a quick update from Funks. All there. It sounds like 222 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:39.639 we have a fatality confirmed by the media here with 223 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:43.200 regards to the car incidents, So go ahead continue your story. 224 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.120 You were just breaking down the size of the crowd 225 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.440 and how it seemed like there was no police support 226 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:53.759 to help anybody or to divide the two crowds as 227 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:54.799 the march was beginning. 228 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:59.360 There no, there was no Now, there were police, but 229 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:01.279 they were on the least that were there were all 230 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:05.559 standing in you know, in a row on the top 231 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.039 of the hill where the next to the statue. That 232 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:10.200 was what that was all they were doing. They were 233 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:14.240 just standing there doing absolutely nothing. It was and the 234 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:16.879 chaos was getting worse and worse they were, and I 235 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:21.080 filmed it, and I'm going to put I haven't posted 236 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.759 the those those videos on YouTube yet, but I'm going to. 237 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:28.000 But uh, it was crazy. I mean they were They 238 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:32.080 were throwing water bottles and cans and and other things 239 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:37.279 and smoke bombs back and uh, we were up on 240 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:40.679 the hill the the you know, the the demonstrate that 241 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.519 the people taking part in the Unite the Right rally 242 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:48.360 were up on the hill and the uh, the Antifa 243 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:51.639 and the and the and the counter protesters or whatever 244 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.759 they would whatever you would call them. Uh, the antiphat 245 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:59.399 types were below us, and so they were yelling things 246 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:01.960 and throwing things up at where where we were. So 247 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:04.519 you were dodging bottles left and right. I mean, it 248 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.600 was just it was just it was just incredible. 249 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.320 And the and the police had no no qualms about 250 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:13.600 people throwing bottles into the crowd. 251 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:17.120 Huh, they weren't there there. There was there was no police. 252 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:18.200 There was nobody there too. 253 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:21.759 I mean, it was u it was a total free 254 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:25.039 for all and and it got ugly. I mean there 255 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:27.480 were there were some brawls there were some scuffles. 256 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:29.000 Uh. 257 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:30.840 There were a couple of times where they threw smoke 258 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.639 bombs ut on the hill and then and then somebody 259 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.639 on the hill took it and threw it back at them. Uh, 260 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:38.559 and that and then people on the hill cheered about that. 261 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.759 But uh, but but there was never really much time 262 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:45.399 to uh. I mean, it was just uh, it was 263 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.679 not dying down, it was getting it was getting more 264 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.759 and it was getting worse. If anything, the uh, you know, 265 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:55.200 the bad vibes were were amping up higher and higher. 266 00:14:55.240 --> 00:15:00.639 And then I remember suddenly the we were told too, 267 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:07.840 We were told to not not by any policemen or 268 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:13.279 official but anyone in official capacity, but some other members 269 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:14.679 of the Unite the Right rally. 270 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:15.559 Some of the leaders of. 271 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:20.080 These groups were told us to move over these particular barricades. 272 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.240 So it was sort of like we were dropping back 273 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:27.960 to another position behind these barricades, that maybe it was 274 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.480 going to be a more stable position for us. And 275 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.360 again this is before any of the speakers, any of 276 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:39.039 the people who were supposed to speak spoke at all. 277 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.159 And then so so all of that was was just 278 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:47.639 was wild and crazy and ridiculous and out of control. 279 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.240 But what really set me off. And you can hear 280 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:51.879 it in that. 281 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:56.279 The video you just played, and there's a couple other 282 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.440 videos like that. What set me off was that all 283 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:04.000 of a sudden, somebody, uh, this big the Swat team 284 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:08.519 March March stuff, this like, I don't know, fifteen twenty guys, 285 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.120 you know, in full swat gear and you know, with 286 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:16.240 the the masks over their eyes and the body armor, 287 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:17.679 the whole the whole thing. 288 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:22.279 Yeah, and it's everything, the ballaclas, the full on umpire 289 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:27.399 get yes, yes, it's crazy to see your footage. Everybody 290 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:29.279 should go check that out on YouTube if you want 291 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:30.000 to get a look at. 292 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.639 Yeah, and and so and so somebody was saying this this, 293 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:35.879 you know, was just reading this announced message over and 294 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:41.120 over and over again. This, uh, this has been this 295 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.440 something like, this gathering has been has been declared unlawful. 296 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.200 You must disperse or you will be arrested. And he 297 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:49.720 just kept repeating it, you know, every couple of minutes. 298 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.559 This gathering has been declared unlawful. You must disperse or 299 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.559 you will be arrested. And that was what set me off, 300 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.039 because I mean, that was just such a such a 301 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.320 dirty trick, uh. And and I think it was a 302 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:04.640 dirty trick, you know, and it's not I don't think 303 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:08.519 it is in any way lawful because you know, the 304 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:10.480 permit was attained, Uh. 305 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.359 It was backed up by the A C. 306 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:16.160 L U, who certainly aren't on the you know, certainly 307 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.240 aren't fans of Unite the Right or or the alt 308 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:21.920 right in any way, but they are they do believe 309 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:22.759 in the First Amendment. 310 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:24.759 Bless them for that. 311 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:26.440 Yeah. 312 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.000 So, and so that was when I just lost it 313 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.799 because and I just started, you know, I started filming 314 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:35.799 these these swat guys and saying, this is what a 315 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:39.079 police state looks like. And and uh when he said, 316 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:43.319 when the guy was saying, you know, you must disperse this. 317 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:44.640 This has been declared unlawful. 318 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:46.599 You must disperse or you'll be arrested, I kept saying, 319 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:47.400 why is it unlawful? 320 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:48.039 Why? Why? 321 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:53.240 And eventually me and a few other guys, I think 322 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.240 some of the I think Richard Spencer was one of them, 323 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:01.160 and maybe Mike Enoch and Nathan Domingo, and there may 324 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:05.039 be there were maybe a couple other ones. We all 325 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:08.319 just sort of an impromptu way linked arms. And you 326 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.920 can see this in the second video that I posted, 327 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:16.880 where the swath starts coming at us. Uh, and they're 328 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:20.640 trying to you know, just just you know, sort of muscleus. 329 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:21.079 Uh. 330 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:23.839 You know, muscless are around or you know, move us 331 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.240 out of the way, make us move. But we we 332 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.680 sort of are pushing back against them, leaning back against them. 333 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:35.599 Uh and you know, trying to bring our force against theirs. 334 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:39.880 Of course, they they won eventually because there's more of them, 335 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:41.920 and they were bigger, and there were just like five 336 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:44.759 or six of us, maybe a few more maybe maybe 337 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:48.799 seven or eight of us. But uh, then then I 338 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:51.799 got as you could see in the last video, I 339 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:56.319 got man handled by this one one cop. 340 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.599 He was you know, sort of trying to wave uh. Uh. 341 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:02.559 He didn't try to knock the camera out of my hand, 342 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:04.559 but he was sort of trying to putting a hand up, saying, 343 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.440 you know, put that away, and and I just kept 344 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.359 on him, you know, saying saying how was this lawful? 345 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:15.319 Blah blah blah, you know, keeping at it somewhat aggressively. 346 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.400 And then he got physical and you know, just pushed 347 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:20.400 me over. And then uh there were then there was 348 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:22.960 there was tear gas, and there there were several times 349 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:26.559 where there was uh uh where there were blasts of 350 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.119 tear gas and suddenly you were doubling over, coughing. I 351 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:32.880 don't know if you've ever had that experience before. Have 352 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.440 you ever have you ever had tear gas? 353 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:38.680 No, not a not a full on experience with it. 354 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:40.160 I remember when I was a kid, I had like 355 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.480 some uh some dog tear gas because there was an 356 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:44.480 aggressive dog down the street on the way to the 357 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.480 bus stop. So I may have gotten a little bit 358 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:50.839 of you know, back spray from the wind maybe once 359 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:53.519 trying to get that dog off away from me. But no, 360 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:55.960 I've never experienced a full dose. I mean, I can 361 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:58.000 only imagine how uncomfortable that is. 362 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.200 Yeah, So so that was when at the end of 363 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.039 that video you see me just doubled. 364 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:05.440 Over and. 365 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.880 I'm just filming the ground for for a minute or 366 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.319 so because I just I've forgotten that I was even 367 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:12.240 holding a camera and that the camera was even on. 368 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.119 So so yeah, so that was that. And then you know, 369 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:20.400 of course, uh, when we had to disperse, and then 370 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:24.200 some of the some of the Antifa were were still 371 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:29.799 hanging around harassing the uh the alt right types, and 372 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:32.119 and so some fights were breaking out there. I saw 373 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:37.119 some some pretty brutal fights happening. There were again really 374 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.519 really bad vibes, a lot of anger, uh, you know, 375 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:43.640 and it was just it was getting worse and worse, 376 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:46.200 and it just got bungled. I mean, it just got 377 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:50.920 really badly handled by the authorities. I mean it I 378 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:55.079 was saying, uh on our chat that, as far as 379 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:59.480 I'm concerned, Charlottesville is Berkeley Berkeley East in the way 380 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:02.359 that they handle this, you know, just sort of letting 381 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:07.519 the letting the rampagers rampage and not doing anything. 382 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:11.440 About it, secretly probably being in league with them. 383 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.680 That way. From from what I'm seeing here on the feeds, 384 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.200 you know, from the from everybody's comments that are there, 385 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:20.880 From from what I'm seeing on the footage, there's a 386 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:24.519 lot of periscope footage going around, a lot of tweets 387 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:28.480 with video footage, your excellent video footage. I mean, uh, 388 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:31.480 this this doesn't seem like the kind of thing where, oh, 389 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:34.160 they just decided, you know, day of the event that 390 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:37.839 it was no longer a lawful gathering. I mean, not 391 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:39.720 that they even had. You know, you guys shouldn't even 392 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.880 need a permit to have a lawful gathering in public, 393 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.759 you know, So, I mean it's just ridiculous. And I agree, 394 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:50.799 it very much looks like it was you you know, 395 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:57.000 that the the demonstration was entrapped into being there and 396 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:01.519 now lo and behold, we've got an automobile attack happening 397 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:03.720 on a really busy street. I'm looking at the footage 398 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.519 that was captured of this right now. It's very pretty graphic. Yeah, 399 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.200 it's really graphic. It's very brutal. It does appear that 400 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:12.079 a lot of people were. 401 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:13.599 Hit. 402 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:18.640 It looks like a Dodge has pushed into a couple 403 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.759 of other cars and multiple people were hit by more 404 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:25.799 than one car. This is really gnarly looking. And of 405 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.920 course it looks like this is gonna be probably hard 406 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:32.279 to say, but if I had to guess, I'd say 407 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:35.319 this is going to be blamed on the right. This 408 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:39.079 is gonna be blamed on the al right, right, something 409 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.400 like to that effect here, because it looks like it 410 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:46.640 was the counter protest crowd there, the antifoot crowd, if 411 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:51.079 you will, that took the brunt of this automobile attack. 412 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:53.720 Yeah. 413 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:56.920 I mean, it's been filtering out over the social media 414 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:01.599 feeds already that it's Trump's fault, it's the Bannan's it's 415 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:04.559 bright Bart's folds. It's just everyone who you can think of. 416 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:07.079 It's it's all their faults. So, just to echo what 417 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.119 Hesher said, I think, yeah, things are going to get 418 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:14.079 pretty gnarly after today with the with the lefty liberals 419 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:20.119 so called cracking down on anyone with conservative sentiments within themselves. 420 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.720 So yeah, I think there's some naughty times. I heard 421 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:23.119 you guys. 422 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:25.759 Well, I wish I could say I was surprised. I've 423 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:29.039 been waiting for this event to pop off or something 424 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:34.359 like it, and it seems that it's here. Andy. Do 425 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.119 you are you still in the vicinity. It looks like, 426 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:42.839 let's see, it looks like this happened at Fourth and 427 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:46.440 Water Streets. The police have cordoned off the scene. They're 428 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:49.119 saying please avoid the area of Fourth and Water Streets. 429 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:55.400 Multiple injuries after crash. CPD Virginia State Police responding it's 430 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.400 with the Facebook message on the Charlottesville Police it's there's 431 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:04.640 a video footage posted that shows the moment a dark 432 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:09.160 gray car rams into a light gray car before violently reversing. 433 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:14.759 So people got hit as it reversed really quickly, as 434 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.119 well as some people that got hit by the car 435 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.799 that it ran. One or two cars that it rammed into. 436 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:25.319 Great graphics scene here, and different from some of the 437 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:28.599 other auto attacks where there's no close up footage of it. 438 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:31.039 There appears to have been a lot of cameras on 439 00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:35.359 in this location where this happens, so there's gonna be 440 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:37.359 a lot of footage of this out there. 441 00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:40.799 Well, I. 442 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:45.640 Kind of need to be taken off just because I'm 443 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.559 it's actually it's actually my daughter's birthday, so I need 444 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:51.559 to call and wish your happy birthday. But I was 445 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:53.599 glad to be able to meet with you guys and 446 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:56.559 talk a little bit about what the experience was from 447 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:58.599 my perspective, from my vantage point. 448 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:03.000 Glad to tear you okay, Yeah, Yeah, we're glad you're okay, Andy, 449 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.119 And thanks for calling in and giving us an update. 450 00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:07.599 I know a lot of people were wondering. We've all 451 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:09.880 been watching this go down in real time. It's been 452 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.599 been a big day. There's been a hack over at 453 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.720 red Ice, so there's just been a lot of attack 454 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:20.319 going on against the conservative spectrum, the right, the alt right, 455 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.359 the allt light. You know, it's there's gonna be no 456 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.000 difference between any of those different shades of political worldview 457 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:31.319 at this point among the left. You know, it's it's 458 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:34.880 not looking good here. But Andy will let you go. 459 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.279 Any final words for everybody, and if not, go out 460 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.000 and try to enjoy the rest of your weekend there 461 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:41.799 and stay safe. 462 00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:47.359 Yeah, just check out the videos I made and or 463 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.079 that I put up and I'm on my YouTube page, 464 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:56.039 and try to spread them around if you feel so inclined. 465 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.920 Just because I really think the unlawfulness of of the 466 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:06.279 way that the city behaved in this particular case in 467 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:12.160 preventing a lawful assembly from assembling that didn't do anybody 468 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.759 any favors, and that didn't didn't help with what happened 469 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:17.799 after that, I would I would hold them at least 470 00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.680 partially responsible for any violence and carnage that took place 471 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.240 into the aftermath of what they did. 472 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:29.759 Absolutely, Andy, I totally agree. They clearly were more interested 473 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:35.480 in a political agenda than they were public safety, and 474 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:39.319 we were seeing now how that's turning out, and it's 475 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.200 not turning out well for the public. Definitely. All right, 476 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:43.200 thanks for joining. 477 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.039 Us, Andy, Yeah, thanks for having me talk to you soon. 478 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:48.519 All right, there he goes everybody, that's Andy NOWICKI calling 479 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:55.440 in live from Charlottesville. Virginia at the Unite the Right 480 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.880 rally where we have just got breaking news that a 481 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:07.920 car has plowed into protesters at that rally. Some very 482 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:12.599 serious injuries it looks like, and one fatality is being 483 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.880 reported as well. Let's folks alow, what do you think? 484 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.039 Shall we go to RT see what's on the live 485 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:18.799 update there? 486 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:20.039 Yeah? 487 00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.000 Good, I think it'd be good to cut into some 488 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.160 RT live feed for a little bit and to hang 489 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.880 back and then maybe to break down some more of 490 00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:31.039 today and chat a bit about what's being gone on 491 00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:33.400 with Red Ice, because they took a very heavy hit 492 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.319 and there could be a huge docks on the way 493 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.720 for those guys as well, so it's looking pretty serious 494 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:39.039 for them. 495 00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.880 Okay, Yeah, definitely a crazy day in the news here. 496 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.920 So we're going to go to the RT live feed 497 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.799 and we'll be back with you shortly here after we 498 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:50.160 get some more information out of r. 499 00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.839 T the extent of the violence that has happened in 500 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:57.799 Charlotte'sville today. Right now, it seems that America is anything 501 00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:58.839 but united. 502 00:27:58.960 --> 00:27:59.559 Unfortunately. 503 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.319 We've seen a number of examples of violent protests happening. 504 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.599 We've seen plays depicting the death of our president we've 505 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.079 seen a while back when you will remember a comedian 506 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.400 Kathy Griffin, she did a photoshoot showing herself holding a bloodied, 507 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.400 severed head that resembled the president. Many people slammed her, 508 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.920 saying that it was provoking violence on that side. And 509 00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:27.559 even protests that have happened at universities across the country 510 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.640 have seen a lot of violence break out between essentially 511 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:35.519 the left and the right sides of political parties. People 512 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.240 often coming to blows or using pepper spray, a lot 513 00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.680 of it. A lot of times it's just unsolicited violence. 514 00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:47.880 And today we've seen another extreme example. Again, we've seen 515 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.400 these cars. It seems like there were three cars that 516 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:55.759 flowed into the protesters. One person has died and many 517 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.440 more are injured. And we're going to keep checking in 518 00:28:58.519 --> 00:28:59.880 to see what has happened. 519 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.920 Okay, and the United States President Donald Trump has just 520 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:06.680 a few months ago made comment on that incident. 521 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:07.759 Let's hear what he had to say. 522 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:14.000 We're closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia. 523 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:21.039 We condemn in the strongest possible terms, this egregious display 524 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:26.240 of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides on many sides. 525 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.079 It's been going on for a long time in our country. 526 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:35.160 Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. This has been going 527 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.920 on for a long long time. It is no place 528 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:43.039 in America. What is vital now is a swift restoration 529 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.960 of law and order and the protection of innocent lives. 530 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:53.480 No citizens should ever fear for the safety and security 531 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.799 in our society, and no child should ever be afraid 532 00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:03.640 to go outside and play or be with their parents. 533 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:05.960 And have a good time. 534 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.200 I just got off the phone with the Governor of Virginia, 535 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:13.559 Terry mccauoff, and we agreed that the hate and the 536 00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:20.480 division must stop, and must stop right now. We have 537 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.400 to come together as Americans with love for our nation 538 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:28.039 and true effect really, and I say this so. 539 00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.319 Strongly, true affection. 540 00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:31.960 For each other. 541 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.319 Our country is doing very well in so many ways. 542 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:45.119 We have record, just absolute record employment. We have unemployment 543 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:49.359 the lowest that's been in almost seventeen years. We have 544 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:55.240 companies pouring into our country, Fox con and car companies 545 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.920 and so many others. They're coming back to our country 546 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.000 renegotiating trade deals to make them great for our country 547 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.680 and great for the American worker. We have so many 548 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:13.440 incredible things happening in our country. So when I watch Charlottesville, 549 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:18.920 to me, it's very, very sad. I want to salute 550 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:23.279 the great work of the state and local police in Virginia. 551 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:28.599 Credible people, law enforcement, credible people, and also the National Guard. 552 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:35.039 They've really been working smart and working hard. They've been 553 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:39.160 doing a terrific job. Federal authorities are also providing tremendous 554 00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.000 support to the governor. He thanked me for that, and 555 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.359 we are here to provide whatever other assistance is needed. 556 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.640 We are ready, willing enable. Above all else, we must 557 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:55.920 remember this truth. No matter our color, creed, religion, or 558 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.839 political party, we are all Americans. 559 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:00.599 First. 560 00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:08.279 We love our country, we love our God, we love 561 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.960 our flag. We're proud of our country. We're proud of 562 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:18.079 who we are. So we want to get this situation 563 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.559 straightened out in Charlottesville, and we want to study it, 564 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.160 and we want to see what we're doing wrong as 565 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.519 a country where things like this can happen. My administration 566 00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:35.000 is restoring the sacred bonds of loyalty between. 567 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.920 This nation and it's citizens. 568 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:42.200 But our citizens must also restore the bonds of trust 569 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.160 and loyalty between one another. We must love each other, 570 00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:52.119 respect each other, and cherish our history and our future together. 571 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.160 So important. We have to respect each other. 572 00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:58.640 Ideally, we have to love each other. 573 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:07.039 Donald Trump, responding that today's fatal events in Charlottesville, Now, 574 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:12.000 the fatal incident followed what had already been violent scenes there, 575 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:16.359 with crowds having gathered for a right wing march in Charlottesville, Virginia. 576 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:32.240 These are the latest pictures we had of those earlier protests. 577 00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:36.480 Oh my god. 578 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.839 So it looks like a truck, dark colored truck smashed 579 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.240 into two cars in front of it. They hit a 580 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:48.519 bunch of car people, and then the truck backed up 581 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:50.640 really quickly, and it looks like it hit a bunch 582 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.319 of people while it was going in reverse. 583 00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:59.440 Yeah, actually doing like a four year rold of the air. 584 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.400 This view of discretion advice there. 585 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:03.960 It was completely touted up. 586 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:10.480 Definitely. You never see I didn't see who got out 587 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.360 of the truck though, there's no I haven't seen any 588 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:14.440 footage that I. 589 00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:15.480 Saw a picture on the ground. 590 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.159 He was in a like a white a white a 591 00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.400 white vest, white white guy. 592 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:20.920 Dark haired. 593 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.960 He was sitting on the ground. Cuffs They haven't in custody. 594 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.440 That's been Twitter got picture. 595 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.039 And plate on this truck were Ohio plates. 596 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:35.920 My apologies eleven. 597 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:41.440 Indeed, of that fatal incident where a vehicle random as you. 598 00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:42.840 Saw there from the video into. 599 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.719 The pretty at least one person has been killed and 600 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.039 a numbers and there injured in a horrific event. And 601 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.599 I believe we can hear now from it eyewitnessings at 602 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:53.039 the scene. 603 00:34:54.199 --> 00:35:01.280 Girl Torah, it's pretty all things like logical, like you know, 604 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:03.920 one month month, this one equals four forest the number 605 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:04.719 of death in Japan. 606 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:14.159 Ship territic yeah. 607 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.719 Yeah, and the car as we heard their suggestion being 608 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:19.199 that it then reversed over people and reports to this 609 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:23.079 guy people went in pursuit of that said vehicle. Now, 610 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.039 the violence had already erupted on the day, with crowds 611 00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:29.119 gathering for a right wing march there in Charlottesville. 612 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.119 These are the pictures from earlier on in the day 613 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:32.000 of Some. 614 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.119 Of those five pictures were the last pictures from the stream. 615 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.559 The kind of reminded me of like multiple circle pits 616 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.840 that the fucking medal gig did, yeah, but minus the 617 00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:43.400 weapons of. 618 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:44.199 Course, you know. 619 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:50.760 The hatred. 620 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.239 Oh yeah yeah, and the crowd serve. 621 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.920 Just tuning in, you're watching Artie International and our rolling 622 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.000 coverage of this breaking news story from Charlottesville, which has 623 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.199 now declared a state of emergency over a rally turned violent. 624 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.800 The small city has become a ground zero for white nationalist, 625 00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.719 neo Confederate and alt right activist in the US. This 626 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:29.480 includes the KKK, who are fighting to keep traces of 627 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:34.119 the Confederate legacy there intact. It followed an announcement to 628 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.960 remove a statue a too renamed to local part Charlotte's 629 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.199 film Earlier. I spoke with Artie America is Alex Rubinstein. 630 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.280 He was at the scene and witnessed the violence that ensued. 631 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.360 I'm not sure how it worked physically, but the person 632 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.199 in front, from what I hear, was able to drive 633 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.719 away and was followed by a state trooper. That was 634 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:54.639 told to me by an NBC reporter. I didn't see 635 00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.159 that personally, uh I saw, I saw. 636 00:36:57.320 --> 00:36:57.679 I didn't. 637 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:02.400 I saw two cars that were totaled. The trunk was 638 00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:06.079 just completely smashed. A woman was inside crying. There was 639 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.199 there was blood on the hood of her vehicle. There 640 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.960 was blood all over the place. People about sixteen people injured. 641 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.119 Saw I saw some of them flying through the air 642 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:18.960 over the hood of the car, and I'm hearing actually 643 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.280 one possible fatality. I can't confirm that, but that's that's 644 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.280 what I've been hearing on the ground. And I also 645 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.000 care about sixteen people injured total. 646 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.840 Has there been any suggestion to this point as to 647 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:33.360 who the victims were The people who were hit by 648 00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.880 this car. Were they right wing protesters or the counter protesters? 649 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.400 No, No, they were counter protesters. They were more of 650 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.360 the Antifa variety. They weren't breaking things or anything like that. 651 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.840 They were marching through a very very small road. It's 652 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.840 a one way and they had just a big number 653 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.519 of people in that stretch, and the car just plowed 654 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.239 through three cars, actually plowed through two of them. It 655 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.199 appears to be unintentionally one of them in it. It 656 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:01.480 appears to be very intentional. 657 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.760 I mean, this sounds like an horrific scene. Lots of 658 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.039 people injured by this sound. What have the authorities done 659 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.239 about this? I would imagined they would look the place 660 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:10.360 down after something like this. 661 00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.280 Well, it's not completely locked down. I mean, streets have 662 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.920 been shut off on and off all day in Charlottesville. 663 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:23.119 They were originally fire trucks came down and even a 664 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.239 bear cat. The bear cat was the first vehicle to 665 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.760 respond after reports had started. 666 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.599 That interesting, they've got a bearcat right there to respond. 667 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:34.800 Later on, some ambulances were able to show off after 668 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.920 about like seven to ten minutes or so. I hear 669 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.039 Donald Trump is going to give a speech later tonight 670 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:43.039 say something about this. 671 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.280 But it seems as though. 672 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:48.079 Charlottesville is not completely shut down, although there is a 673 00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:49.039 state of emergency. 674 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.000 And what's the mood there of those counter protests you said, 675 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.119 it's some of them who've been injured here. How have 676 00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:59.840 they responded to what seems to have been an assault 677 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:01.920 on some of that numbers. 678 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.360 Yeah, it's just it's just very somber here. A lot 679 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.480 of people crying, a lot of people have friends that 680 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.320 were that were hit by that car, and just just 681 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.599 all around sadness. You know. You know, typically at a protest, 682 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.320 if if the police will ask you to get on 683 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.000 the sidewalk, protesters will say no. I mean, everyone was compliant. 684 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.880 Everyone was just trying to do the best thing that 685 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.079 they could do at that time for the for the 686 00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:27.039 injured people, it seems. 687 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:32.039 And how would you describe the scene there today? We've 688 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.320 heard of previous incidents as well. Just how violent has 689 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.800 this protest been sure. 690 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.599 I mean there was a good number of chemicals being sprayed. 691 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.119 There was pepper spray. 692 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:45.679 There. 693 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.599 I'm sorry, I apologize my cameraman. 694 00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:49.199 Uh. 695 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:52.719 There there was a large number of pepper spray being 696 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:57.039 shot from both sides at each other. I saw people 697 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.519 hitting each other with poles. I saw a lot of 698 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.960 people with just blood, a lot of blood running down 699 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.599 their face, giant welts. It was very it was very dramatic, 700 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.280 very scary at times. But I will say that the 701 00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:15.440 police did not did not use heavy handed tactics today. 702 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:18.280 And how would you describe the scene now? Does this 703 00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:20.159 look like things are going to calm down? 704 00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.039 Perhaps people might disagree with that comment. 705 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.519 It seems it seems that for the day in Charlottesville, 706 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:32.639 it's over. Everybody has spread out across multiple that we're 707 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:38.400 following multiple law sites throughout the downtown area. Ah, but 708 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.559 it seems that for the day, everything everybody's tired, everyone's 709 00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:42.480 everyone's grieving. 710 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.239 Okay, let's cross over to Washington, d C. 711 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:51.159 Now can speak to our correspondent that Jacqueline Vugers. I understand, Jacqueline. 712 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:53.760 Donald Trump's been reacting to this, what's been said. 713 00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:58.000 Yes, he has He said that the obviously everyone here 714 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.320 is closely following the incident that happened in Charlottesville and 715 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.320 condemns bigotry on all fronts. He also called for unity 716 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.840 in America and said that the hate and division here 717 00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:11.440 must stop. Let's take a quick listen to what his 718 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:12.199 remarks were. 719 00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.320 Okay, folks, we'll coming back a little bit here. Now, 720 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:19.599 what's with the condemning bigotry already? I mean, we don't 721 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.280 know that that has anything to do with this. 722 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.920 Yeah, I mean from just just try to engauge what 723 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.440 is what was currently going on is uh is a 724 00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:36.880 task in itself. Uh, there's definitely a sense of discompopulation 725 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.800 and just file arounds, just just blame anybody and everybody 726 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:47.880 that seems to be the uh, the current theme from 727 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.239 Antifa from these progressive leftists. Where As I said earlier 728 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.440 on that is bright Bart's fault, It's Steve Balon's fault. 729 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:55.320 It's Trump's fault. 730 00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:00.440 That we are marking a new stage now in the 731 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.960 so called punch Nazis in the face. You know, everybody 732 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:09.159 against the right, everybody who, as I said earlier, has 733 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.000 has a conservative bone in the body, Well, that's the 734 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.119 right we need to smash and punch these Nazis. 735 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.480 You know, we've talked about this before, Hershew. 736 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:24.039 We've seen numerous examples of Antifa thugs in action, provoking 737 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:28.639 people from the conservative right and not talking about a 738 00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.000 right or of to light or extreme hard or whatever 739 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.639 other word you want to put on that who come armed, 740 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:40.360 ready for action with their fists to cause a riot, 741 00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:45.000 and that is part and parcel of what we've seen 742 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.880 to them. You know, there is there is no smoke 743 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:52.840 without fire. I'm not you know, a portioning innocence on 744 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:54.239 any side here. 745 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:55.320 But it was. 746 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.679 It was a complete melee, a complete mess, a complete melae, 747 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.599 and one could only hope that, yeah, there's that there 748 00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.920 is a lot of lessons learned from this, especially in 749 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:11.079 the wake of of multiple injured up to nine injured, 750 00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.800 including one fatality as well. 751 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.000 So it's it's a mess of with day man. 752 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.960 Yeah, yeah, it really is. And uh, this this isn't 753 00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.320 gonna go away. You know. It sounds like the streets 754 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.639 have cleared out a little bit, people have, you know, 755 00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:31.320 the rallies broken up. But I don't think that this 756 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.440 is gonna do anything to improve the divide the issues 757 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:42.880 here between the left and all factions of the right 758 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.079 at this point. And and that's the unfortunate thing, is 759 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:50.159 the all those shades of gray, you know, right of center, 760 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.000 left of center, you know, people that don't want to 761 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.559 identify with, you know, believing in and belonging to the 762 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.719 extreme of the right or the left. You know that 763 00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:07.519 that island of common sense, you know, on either side 764 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:12.760 of center are going to slowly continue to disappear here, 765 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:17.079 maybe quickly after something like this. So, yeah, this, this 766 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.559 is definitely not good. This is not a good situation here. 767 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:21.920 Do we have any There's. 768 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.400 Going to be only one side hasher. There's only going 769 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.360 to be one side from now on, and it's the left. 770 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:26.159 And that's that. 771 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.599 And you know, this is what we've been seeing with 772 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.119 you know, everything in the wake of the James de 773 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.840 Moor depicle from from Google, from the Google a Google 774 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.480 manifesto that we were chatting about on the Border room 775 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.039 as well. We have this this hive mind cut like 776 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.800 mentality of is either the left mofos or get out 777 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:48.320 of our companies, get out of these places. If you 778 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.280 even have a hint of you know, liking Trump or 779 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.480 anything like that, it's like, you know, we're going to 780 00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.039 wreck your lives, We're going to wreck your jobs. So 781 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.000 the question remains for the the audience that ask them 782 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:05.599 to ask themselves, well, who are the real domestic terrorists 783 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:09.239 in this case? From what I've been viewing for for many, 784 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.400 many many months now in the run up to to 785 00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:14.880 Trump getting elective, with what we've we've chatted about on 786 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.360 numerous shows, including The Border Room, is that the vast 787 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:21.639 majority of violence has not been coming from the right 788 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.960 or has been coming from the hard or extreme right. 789 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.960 It has been coming from these move on Saurus George 790 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:34.199 Soros funded thugs. And we had a little bit of 791 00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.119 a chat on the back line as the as Artie 792 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.519 were rolling their footage with the audio for our listeners there, 793 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.440 and you know, we discussed about this guy, this guy 794 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:46.800 from Ohio, so he he drove six hours to come 795 00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.639 to this protest and then like on queue, decides to 796 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.320 you know, use this vehicle as as a battering ram 797 00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:58.760 to run over people and then like reverse. You know, 798 00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.360 there's the numerous things we could talk about that in 799 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.599 a South hashire, you know, was it you know, what 800 00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:04.760 was it was that planted? 801 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:06.360 What was that stage? 802 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.719 Was that guy you know funded so there's there's gonna 803 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:10.000 be a lot of questions in the wake of this, 804 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.079 and in the wake of the of the fatality of 805 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:13.480 you know, who. 806 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.239 Was this guy from from from Ohio? Was he was 807 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:19.400 he a lone wealth? Was he was he funded in 808 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:20.039 any way? 809 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:20.599 You know? 810 00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.800 Coming six hours? It it just it leaves one to. 811 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.920 Think, yeah, and he has been caught, right, So it 812 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.360 looks like he's been caught. So now the questions are, 813 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.800 who is this person who owns the car? 814 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:34.760 Uh? 815 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.880 Is this person from Ohio? And did he drive six 816 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.199 hours six plus hours to get there and do that? Uh? 817 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:46.400 You know, there's there's always more questions than answers at 818 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:49.159 this point, and unfortunately it's going to be over to 819 00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.000 you know, the FBI and the mainstream media to try 820 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.000 to tell us what happened there, And of course that 821 00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:59.440 all goes through you know, a number of questionable filters 822 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.639 by the time it reaches our ears. So this is 823 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.400 I don't know, I don't know what's going to happen here, 824 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:11.000 but you know, I I maintain that this is a 825 00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:15.400 time when we should not be thinking about right versus left. 826 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:22.320 The only legitimate political standpoint to have here is not 827 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.440 one of anti left or anti right. It needs to 828 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.320 be one of anti deep state because most likely that 829 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.239 is where this is coming from. You know, that's that's 830 00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:36.519 where I'm going to put my educated guess, you know, 831 00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:40.679 giving the limited amount of information that we have right now. 832 00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:44.639 Yeah, this is a distraction from the North Korea issue 833 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.519 as well. I mean, you know, you've spoke about deep 834 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:51.079 state Hesitian. You know, we've been hearing President Donald Trump 835 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:55.440 echoing words of the of the military, echoing words even 836 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.519 further than that of the of the deep state, these 837 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:03.239 buzzwords in his sin, tax, fire, and fury. You know, 838 00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.280 when I hear these things by Trump, I'm like, this 839 00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.559 is this, this is this is not trumps syntax, this, 840 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.679 this is not him. This this stuff has been fed 841 00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.320 to the guy to to put to. 842 00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:14.440 Put out on the media. 843 00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:19.119 And you're right, Harsher, it is it's to get it's 844 00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.119 it's not an example of you know, anti this, anti this, 845 00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:24.320 or you know, pro left, pro right, et cetera, et cetera, 846 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.599 yad YadA, yadda. It's a case of let's you know, 847 00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:31.760 engage with a gray matter, get our magnifying glasses, and 848 00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.320 let's start unraveling this. And you know, looking over the 849 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.559 detail as well, So he made some very good points there. 850 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:42.159 Yeah, so we'll see. I mean, uh man, I wish 851 00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:45.360 there was more information we could go on at this point, 852 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.760 but it looks like we're going to have to wait 853 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.880 it out and see if any jay wants to join 854 00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:51.760 us here hold on, go ahead, though. 855 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:52.239 Should think. 856 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.559 According to reports, the demonstration was organized by god called 857 00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:56.400 Jason Kessler. 858 00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.440 He's a former Daily Caller. 859 00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.960 Writer and act and this was all set up this 860 00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:06.800 Unite the Right hashtag Unite the Right to protest against 861 00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.920 the removal of the statue of Confederate General Robert E. 862 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:15.360 Lee from Emuancipation Park. The park used to be named 863 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.559 Lee Park after the Confederate general, but Charlottesville City Council 864 00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:23.480 voted to change its name in June. So yesterday we 865 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:25.920 had this. I'm not sure if you saw all this 866 00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:29.400 cracking down and social media, Hasure or whoever's listening to 867 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.519 this live or on the podcast, but there was this 868 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:38.320 tiki torch march that was going on in Charlottesville, and 869 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:42.639 at one point it seemed to surround the counter protesters 870 00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.719 the counter demonstrators, and so there was a there was 871 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.079 a lot of triggering going on regarding that, and then 872 00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:53.679 today we had the actual, the official Unite the Right event, 873 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:56.760 So we have had a type of like a prelude 874 00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.840 or a prologue to what, you know, what was happening today, 875 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.440 some sort of like a natural build up. I mean 876 00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:08.280 there was a lot of high tension in Charlottesville, you know, 877 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.000 less than twenty four hours prior to this event. 878 00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:12.320 Today. 879 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.440 Just got word that Patrick Henningson's going to be live 880 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.159 on the RT feed in about fifteen minutes or so, 881 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:24.119 so I would like to keep this broadcast going. I'm 882 00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:26.320 gonna have to switch back over to the RT feed 883 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.599 while I get a couple of things situated over here. 884 00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:32.639 So if you want to hang back, please YEP show thinks, 885 00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.639 don't go anywhere. You're listening to the boiler Room on 886 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.679 Alternate Current Radio. I'm your host, Hesher. I'm joined by 887 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.599 Funk Soul from the UK, and we had Andy Nowiki 888 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:45.599 joining us earlier. If you're just tuning in and you 889 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.760 missed that, it'll be up on recording as soon as 890 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:54.000 we shut down, and we'll make a show page for 891 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:56.000 it so that you can share it around and find it, 892 00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:59.719 and you can also go check out Andy Nowicki's YouTube page. 893 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.760 I'll be linking that on the show page for today 894 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.480 so that people can go see some of the footage 895 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:11.039 the Andy recorded down there. He experienced tear gas, he 896 00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:15.599 experienced being told to leave, So it's some good footage 897 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.519 out there on mister Nowiki's YouTube page. Okay, we're going 898 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:24.559 to go back to simulcasting RTI International here. Well, well, 899 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.679 we gather ourselves and look for some more data. 900 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.599 Charlottesville has now declared a state of emergency over the rally. 901 00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.599 This city has become a ground zero for white nationalists 902 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.880 New Confederate an old tried activist in the US. 903 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.159 It includes the KKK as. 904 00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.239 They fight to keep traces of the Confederate legacy there. Intact, 905 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:47.519 it follows a plan that was announced to remove a 906 00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.440 statue and to rename to local parks. Earlier, I spoke 907 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.039 with Artie America's Alex Rubinstein. He was at the scene 908 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:55.960 and witnessed what ensued. 909 00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.320 I'm not sure how it worked physically, but then in 910 00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.320 front from what I hear, was able to drive away 911 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:04.960 and what's followed by a state trooper that was told. 912 00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:07.360 To me by Okay, RT is kind of annoying me 913 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.719 here a little bit with their covers. They're really leaning 914 00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:13.360 on RT America, which tend to, uh really have a 915 00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.320 bit of a leftist slant when it comes to their 916 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:18.039 analysis of these kind of things. 917 00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:19.840 So I'm just a bit partisan. 918 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.119 Yeah, just a little bit there, man. I mean this 919 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:26.639 whole thing with like trying to conflate the alt right 920 00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:31.440 with the KKK. I mean, geez, when whenever you get 921 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:35.840 RT America involves stuff starts to sound like CNN light, 922 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.440 you know, geez, they talk about the alt light. We 923 00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.800 need to call RT America CNN light. Those guys clearly 924 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.760 they just sit there and read off the Reuter's script lines. 925 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.039 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's interesting listening to the 926 00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:54.760 listening to to the live feed and seeing a surprisingly 927 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:59.880 enough with with RT, it's usually usually a reliable source. 928 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.360 It's with its recorded and live footage and including its reports, 929 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:10.679 it's usually a reliable and usually non partisan, you know, 930 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.760 good source of information. So I was quite surprised to 931 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.840 hear that as it was as it was flowing over 932 00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:18.199 the feed. 933 00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:21.920 Yeah, well that's I assume this is why their producers 934 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.639 getting Patrick henningson on the line here, because they know 935 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:28.719 that when they're just piping in people from RT America 936 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.320 and having guests like that previous guest that they had 937 00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:36.039 on there that was trying to you know, conflate the 938 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.599 the alt right with the KKK and white supremacy and 939 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.280 all this. You know, these blanket statements that don't actually 940 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:47.360 describe what's going on, don't actually describe the nuances of 941 00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:52.119 the people that are right of center, you know. So 942 00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:54.840 hopefully when Patrick comes on, we'll get a little bit 943 00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:57.719 more of a balanced analysis here. 944 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.719 Yeah, I mean from from my ops if they you know, 945 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:04.880 with yesterday's proceedings and in and latching onto what's been 946 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:07.840 going you know on today. You know, I was coming 947 00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:10.320 back from like the north of the UK, you know, 948 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:12.119 back into London and this was all kind of hitting. 949 00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.119 So I just had Twitter to rely on for the 950 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.840 you know, for the live feeds and updates and you know, 951 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:21.320 bullet points and whatnot. But and and please, you know, 952 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:23.920 excuse my netness. And this this also goes for the audience. 953 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.639 But you know, regarding the situation itself, it seems that 954 00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:31.360 the that you know, the the side of the the right, 955 00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.039 these so called rightists, you know, it seems like there's 956 00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:39.119 there's many splinter factions involved. So we've got all right, 957 00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.639 we've got all light, we've got you know, center right, 958 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:47.039 we've got you know, hardline nationalists, we've got you know, 959 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:50.800 you know, we got more extreme factions as well. So, 960 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.840 as I said earlier on, it's it's quite a it's 961 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.159 quite a melee of fractals that's involved in this situation, 962 00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.679 more so on the on the right hands side, but 963 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:04.800 it's it's all being lumped together as you know, for say, 964 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:08.840 for example, Nazi scum and white nationalists. And I just 965 00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.559 picked up from from from Twitter earlier on, you know, 966 00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:14.840 Van Jones is saying like there's a lot of pressure 967 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.159 on the president to just call out every single one 968 00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:22.000 of these people for who they are as you know, 969 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.559 as as as white nationalists and. 970 00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:25.360 As as racist. 971 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:29.920 So as as usual, the media has no problem with 972 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:33.400 with with libel and with with with with defamations. 973 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:37.079 So I would say after this, if, if, and when 974 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.440 it does actually settle down, there's there's going to be 975 00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.599 quite a few, quite a few lawsuits on the go 976 00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:43.079 after this. 977 00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.920 Oh yeah, yeah, how's it feel? Patriots? You know, are 978 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.400 you constitutionalists, all you patriots out there, you're now uh 979 00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:57.079 summarily part of the alt right, and thereby you are 980 00:55:57.119 --> 00:56:04.000 summarily uh kk k, you are Nazis, you are racists, 981 00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:07.920 you are bigots, you are misogynists. That's what you get 982 00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:12.679 for giving a crap about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, 983 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:18.840 protecting your children from the degeneracy of the media and 984 00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:21.880 the extreme left. That's what you get. This is what 985 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:23.639 we all get. We all get to be part of 986 00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:27.599 one group. Now, we all get to be racist, we 987 00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.440 all get to be bigots, we all get to be 988 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:37.760 white supremacists, and kkk because we are not leftists. I 989 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:39.679 don't know, bet you hesha, but hold on, what's that 990 00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:41.920 coming away the accelerator. 991 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:45.280 At that point, anything is possible, so all sort of 992 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:48.599 rational actions sort of go out the window at that point. 993 00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:50.920 That's very well. What could have happened. 994 00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:56.360 If it was someone ramming protesters intentionally, then that's something 995 00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:01.039 that will be discovered through this investigation afterwards. Whatever the 996 00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:05.039 case is, it's absolutely a horrible situation. But I wouldn't 997 00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.239 want to speculate on the motives of the driver yet. 998 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:11.960 I think that's probably premature. It should be anyway. 999 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.840 But if you look on Twitter right now, everyone is 1000 00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:18.519 blaming Steve Bennon and Donald Trump for the death and 1001 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:20.039 injuries that have taken place. 1002 00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.480 Yeah, it's a very good point, Patrick, and it's something 1003 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:26.159 I've been trying to adhere to throughout our coverage of this. 1004 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.280 I got into a sort of a heated debate with 1005 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.800 a journalist earlier who suggested that we weren't attributing any blame. 1006 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.280 But as you said, although they may be unlikely, there 1007 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.800 are possibilities where this may have been an accident. It's 1008 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.199 not impossible until we know what the mindset of the 1009 00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:40.760 driver was. 1010 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:41.559 It's hard to say. 1011 00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:45.280 But that said, everybody on the internet is already making 1012 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:48.400 their mind about this. People are very emotional about what 1013 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:52.039 has happened today. Are you surprised that we have seen 1014 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:53.119 such violence? 1015 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:54.840 We knew that there was going to be a protest, 1016 00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:55.679 We knew there was going to be. 1017 00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:59.320 A counter protest. The authorities knew all about this. They 1018 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:03.599 had National God there. They were trying to actually disperse 1019 00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:05.440 the people. But he's surprised by the violence that we 1020 00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:06.519 saw even beforehand. 1021 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.719 I'm not surprised, actually, And one thing I'm going to 1022 00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:14.079 say this is not my opinion. 1023 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.320 This is just a matter of fact. 1024 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:19.519 If you look at the protests in Sacramento, in Berkeley, 1025 00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:23.960 and at college campuses around the country, especially during the 1026 00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:28.800 Milo Jananopolis speaking tour. What you find is this group 1027 00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:33.239 Antifa showing up very well organized and then showing up 1028 00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:37.679 and really inciting violence, and a lot of times oddly 1029 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.840 police just stand back and allow them to throw punches 1030 00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.360 and beat people and kick people on the ground. There's 1031 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.800 lots of video of this up on social media, and 1032 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:51.360 it seems like this wing of the protest, this Antifa group, 1033 00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:54.000 seems to very much play to the media and play 1034 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:55.960 to the cameras, and so. 1035 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:01.559 Group you hardly hear about them. 1036 00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:04.840 They seem to have no political shape and they only 1037 00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.199 appear as a counter protest. 1038 00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:09.280 Group inciting violence. 1039 00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:11.559 If you think about it, there would have if Antifa 1040 00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:17.239 wasn't there and so aggressive. It's doubtful that anything you know, 1041 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.320 would have would have taken place at this But yet 1042 00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.000 you know they do have a right to be there 1043 00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:23.920 as well. But what I find is if you look 1044 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:29.000 at their record, extremely aggressive, extremely violent, advocating publicly calling 1045 00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:33.000 for violence against anybody that they label or brand a 1046 00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:37.000 Nazi or a fascist, and even the term anti fascist. 1047 00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:41.679 It's kind of a disingenuous construct because they don't seem 1048 00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:44.519 to want to define what fascism is and they seem 1049 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.960 to be sticking this label solely on Trump. This tells 1050 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:50.119 me that this is a kind of a politicized construct, 1051 00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:53.880 and you could say on what basis, you know, are 1052 00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:57.320 they operating on. Is it just purely agitation or do 1053 00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:02.559 they actually have some sort of genuine political argument to make. 1054 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:04.719 And if you look at the term fascism in terms 1055 01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:08.159 of corporatism, this is something that flourished under eight years 1056 01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:11.239 of Barack Obama and George Bush before him, and Bill 1057 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:14.599 Clinton before that. So in terms of the Clinton, Bush 1058 01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.960 Obama continuum, you can make an argument that fascism in 1059 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:23.639 America is definitely a bipartisan on all wings, establishment driven 1060 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.159 trend in US society and public and corporate life. 1061 01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:30.719 So we have on one side a group of white 1062 01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:33.599 nationalists known to use violence. On the other that we 1063 01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:39.639 have the anti rights demonstrators who, according to Donald Trump, 1064 01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:42.679 as he said earlier, there is blave on all sides. 1065 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.000 He's not saying that they didn't play any role in 1066 01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:49.320 any violence at any such demonstrations. And then, as we've 1067 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.119 heard from other guests as well as yourself. The suggestion 1068 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:56.079 that the local police have been backwards in coming forwards, 1069 01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:59.199 that perhaps they've been sympathetic and have stood back. Surely 1070 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.719 the high level authority should have foreseen that this is 1071 01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:03.920 a recipe for disaster. 1072 01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:07.920 Well, normally the way police normally work in the United 1073 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:12.079 States is now unfortunately, we have to apply for permits 1074 01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.440 to do protests. So the group that applied for the 1075 01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:18.400 permit was Unite the Right. That was the right wing group, 1076 01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:21.679 and they actually backed by the American Civil Liberties Union 1077 01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:25.480 surprisingly in this protest, and so they had their permit 1078 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:29.840 from the police. Police also knew the Antifa agitation counter 1079 01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:33.079 protests was coming, and normally in America, the police are 1080 01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:41.480 then responsible for protecting they gather them and then protecting 1081 01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.119 them from the counter protests. That's normally how it works. 1082 01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.960 And so for some reason that doesn't seem to have happened. 1083 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.800 Maybe it was just they were overwhelmed by the sheer 1084 01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:53.360 numbers of these sort of the Antifa protests that were 1085 01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:56.280 busted in from out of town, and I think the 1086 01:01:56.280 --> 01:02:00.000 majority of these people are from probably quite far away 1087 01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:03.360 adventure to guess. Certainly that was the case in California 1088 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:04.760 and other places where you see. 1089 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:05.760 Them popping up. 1090 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:10.559 The right rent wing demonstration probably had people from out 1091 01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:12.679 of town as well, no doubt. Even the one of 1092 01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:18.320 the drivers implicated in this auto automotive accident is allegedly 1093 01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.280 we're hearing from Ohio, from out of town, six hours 1094 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:25.079 drive away from Charlottesville, Virginia. But it is incumbent on 1095 01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:30.320 the police to give protection to a lawful protest. And 1096 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.760 you know, if you have people coming across state lines 1097 01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:38.000 in an organized way and really to just cause violence, 1098 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:44.480 certainly that's the police, aren't They're not responsible for that, 1099 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:49.159 and quite frankly, it would have no problem difficult to 1100 01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:53.360 control that. So you know, whether that should have canceled 1101 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.079 the demonstration full stop. That's certainly an option by the 1102 01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:59.440 police that's been done before. Demonstration's canceled ahead of time, 1103 01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:04.320 and that diffuses any potential confrontations that didn't happen, unfortunately, 1104 01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.280 and what you have was an outbreak of violence. And 1105 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:12.079 it's sad because I think there are elements on the 1106 01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:17.480 sort of extreme right that are definitely benefiting from a 1107 01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:22.639 visibility and publicity standpoint, from a polarized atmosphere like this, 1108 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:26.760 and absolutely on the far left they're feeding off that too, 1109 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:30.320 and so there's a kind of an odd symbiosis between 1110 01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:33.760 the extreme right and this antifa, which is the extreme 1111 01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:39.159 left and so who are publicly calling for violence in 1112 01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:44.039 a kind of disturbing way labeling people, and this term 1113 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:49.480 alt right is completely meaningless now, and so it's been 1114 01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:55.519 completely convoluted through really a hysterical discourse from the Democrat 1115 01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:58.519 Party and basically anybody who seems to be against Donald Trump, 1116 01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:01.519 and so they've men to buying this term all right 1117 01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.719 with Nazi, with fascists, and of course that becomes the 1118 01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:09.000 battle cry for violence against people who then get labeled 1119 01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:12.719 by that. That to me is extremely dangerous. And we 1120 01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:21.880 can see, yes, people were injured and heard the protests 1121 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.320 and things like that openly just beating up people on 1122 01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:26.480 the stream. The police are standing by kind of watching 1123 01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:29.039 it in some cases, so really disturbing. 1124 01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:30.679 Patrick. 1125 01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:34.559 People tuning into our channel this evening watching these scenes 1126 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.239 globally from all around the world who maybe don't know 1127 01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:40.679 too much about life in America will see these horrific scenes. 1128 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:45.039 They'll have heard repeatedly about this huge political divide in America. 1129 01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.039 What we've been seeing today at this protest, this violence, 1130 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:52.559 is this the extreme fringes of the political sphere clashing. 1131 01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:57.360 Is this basically an extreme minority causing problems or is 1132 01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.679 this in any way indicative of that divide the country. 1133 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:06.000 No, this is absolutely an extreme minority event. As you 1134 01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:08.960 put it, If you go throughout the United States, you 1135 01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:12.719 travel off fifty states, and I've traveled a lot through 1136 01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:15.840 the country, especially over the last couple of years, and 1137 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:16.880 you don't see this. 1138 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:18.119 This is not what's happening. 1139 01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:21.719 What's happening in America, and I think, much to the 1140 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:26.000 dismay and possible chagrin of those people who are just 1141 01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:32.639 hell bent on unseating the current president, democratically elected president, 1142 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.400 I might add, is that people are getting back to work, 1143 01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:37.440 they're trying to get on with their lives. But you 1144 01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:42.400 do have a radical minority that seems to be completely 1145 01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:45.639 determined in what they call what their code word is 1146 01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:49.119 on the left in America's relentless resistance. That's the sort 1147 01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:51.159 of code word that's come out of this sort of 1148 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:54.400 Hillary Clinton camp very early on, and you see that 1149 01:05:54.840 --> 01:06:00.000 basically embodied in all these sort of basically anything to oppose, 1150 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:04.599 anything to resist, and also this includes Russia Gate. So 1151 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:09.599 this is unfortunately, this is reflected in US foreign policy. 1152 01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:13.880 So you have the total dysfunctionality of US domestic politics, 1153 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:18.119 where there's really the fringe in the extreme pushing people 1154 01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:22.239 like Adam Schiff and Democrats and Republicans too, pushing this 1155 01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:27.159 kind of Russia hysteria. This then manifests itself on the 1156 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:29.400 foreign policy scene very dangerous. 1157 01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.119 So can domestic. 1158 01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:35.559 Politics in America shape its foreign policy, make it more reactionary. 1159 01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:39.800 Cause presidents cause administrations to be more warhawk ish in 1160 01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:43.559 order to say, take the attention off of any domestic 1161 01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.679 issues or to get a bump in the polls. 1162 01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:47.920 This has happened in US history before. 1163 01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:50.320 And so we're looking at a situation with North Korea, 1164 01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:54.320 and that's perfectly a perfect storm gathering right now for 1165 01:06:54.440 --> 01:07:02.159 that sort of convenient distraction to take. White House is 1166 01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:04.800 so desperate to sort of get a win, as it were, 1167 01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:06.760 that they might be pushed in that direction by the 1168 01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:10.719 political operatives that are around the president and his team 1169 01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:13.000 at the moment. So these are all the things that 1170 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:15.840 I'm worried about, and that many other sort of I 1171 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:18.920 think sober analysts are worried about. When you look at 1172 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:22.800 the situation of what's broken out today, but it is 1173 01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.960 absolutely a fringe phenomenon here. This is not what's going 1174 01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:31.280 on around the country. And so it's sad that this 1175 01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:34.519 will be sort of the main topic of discussion for 1176 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:38.639 the next few days. But I guarantee you, and this 1177 01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:40.519 is the way the news cycle is, in the sort 1178 01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:44.199 of the hyper twenty four to seven extant news cycle 1179 01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:47.280 in America, this will become yesterday's news. By this time 1180 01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:49.440 next week, no one will have heard about it. There'll 1181 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:53.599 be something else that will dominate CNN's news feed, or 1182 01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:55.960 Fox and NBC and so forth. 1183 01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:59.000 You talked about Donald Trump, we have seen. 1184 01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:02.679 I mean, he's felcome held to offer some kind of 1185 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:07.679 reference to today's events with this fatality. He called it 1186 01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:10.519 an example of hatred and bigotry, and he made a 1187 01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.280 point of saying that this is hatred and division that 1188 01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.280 had been around for a long time prior to him, 1189 01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:19.119 prior to Barack Obama. But the far left have and 1190 01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:22.520 will continue to link him to such events. They say 1191 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:27.239 that these far right extremists are his supporters, they're Trumps guys. 1192 01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.239 Is the president right to try and distance himself from this? 1193 01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:32.039 What else can you do? 1194 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:33.560 Well? 1195 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:38.439 I think you can't blame anybody for anyone that supports them. 1196 01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:39.439 You saw this. 1197 01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:42.439 So when David Duke came out during the sort of 1198 01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:45.960 primary I think was during the primary stage or maybe 1199 01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:49.479 during the general and said that he was backing Donald Trump, 1200 01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:52.479 and then he was then Trump was hijacked during an 1201 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:55.000 interview with Jake Tapper on CNN, who put the words 1202 01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:59.560 KKK into his mouth and said, well, you know, are 1203 01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:01.880 you going to avowed David? Do you have no control 1204 01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:05.920 over who backs you if you're in politics. So this 1205 01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:09.000 is a really sort of, you know, weak argument that 1206 01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:13.520 left Democrats we're using throughout the election cycle, you know, 1207 01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:16.279 and you have people basically saying that the alt right 1208 01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.920 is the KKK is like the modern expression of the KKK. 1209 01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:24.000 That is a completely disingenuous statement, but you hear this 1210 01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:27.560 is part of the hysterical rhetoric that's going on. This 1211 01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:31.279 type of hysterical rhetoric does not help the situation at all. 1212 01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:34.479 What it does is it drives to further polarize. You know, 1213 01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:42.640 it's a kind of a dumbed down analysis, and quite frankly, 1214 01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:44.439 I'm going to say, in times like this, they're not 1215 01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:47.119 thinking straight, because if they're thinking straight, they wouldn't make 1216 01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:49.720 a statement like that. When you study this phenomenon of 1217 01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:53.279 the alt right has many different iterations and it's got 1218 01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:59.399 quite a diverse big tent under there, everything from conservatives, Republicans, 1219 01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:04.439 paleo servatives, moderate people, ex Obama supporters. I mean, there's 1220 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:06.840 lots of people that might affiliate themselves with the so 1221 01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:09.920 called alt right who are on Reddit. 1222 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:13.279 For instance, So there's the whole throng of people there. 1223 01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:14.640 It's completely diverse. 1224 01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:18.239 The label, like I said before, means nothing anymore because 1225 01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.520 it's completely convoluted by now. 1226 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:23.239 But yet this is still used as a kind of. 1227 01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:28.960 A rallying cry by the counter protesters. And it's sad 1228 01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:32.279 and that the whole game of labeling in America. 1229 01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:34.159 Seems to be an almost national. 1230 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:37.439 Pastime now and rather than having a real discourse or 1231 01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:41.199 debate we're talking about issues and talking through and analyzing 1232 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.800 issues and history. Instead people are just labeling each other 1233 01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:47.279 and then, you know, whatever they said, you know, I'm 1234 01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:49.840 just going to oppose you for the sake of opposing you, 1235 01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:52.640 and there I've stuck my label on you. We're seeing 1236 01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:55.720 so much of this in mainstream politics in America, and 1237 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:58.479 it's definitely not a good sign because we're not going 1238 01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:01.359 to be able to have that national debate or national 1239 01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:04.560 conversation that's meaningful. It's just going to be a sort 1240 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:07.800 of slagging match, which is kind of what we had 1241 01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:09.479 a lot of. What we had a lot of really 1242 01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:11.600 for the last sort of twelve months. 1243 01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.119 Yeah, we've been as we've been speaking to Patrick, we've 1244 01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:16.880 been showing pictures of the incident, the car plowing through 1245 01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:20.079 the counterprotesters. It's one of those stories where it's very 1246 01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:23.119 easy and people will very quickly get very emotive about it, 1247 01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:26.319 but we try to speak to a variety of guests 1248 01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:28.960 to get context, and I believe you've given us certainly 1249 01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:32.439 a lot of that there. Patrick Henningson, many thanks, Executive 1250 01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:36.960 director of twenty first Century wire dot Com. 1251 01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:39.119 Okay, let's bring you live pictures. 1252 01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:39.399 Now. 1253 01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:41.239 This is the scene now. 1254 01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:44.119 You saw the pictures early earlier of the car ramming 1255 01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:46.920 into other vehicles, which you can see there, and this 1256 01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:49.880 is the scene now. So the police have clearly cordoned 1257 01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:52.439 off the area, although you will occasionally catch a glimpse 1258 01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:55.800 of police in riot gear just coming across that cord, 1259 01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:59.000 and there there's standing by making sure that the area 1260 01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:00.880 is clear. And you can you can see the extent 1261 01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.039 of the damage done those two vehicles. 1262 01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:04.399 You can see there were the. 1263 01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:09.239 Two that were apparently practically stationary from what we've seen 1264 01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:11.840 on the video, when a vehicle which is believed to 1265 01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:16.119 have been a Dodge pickup truck, rand into them from behind, 1266 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:19.680 and you can see the force with which the collision occurred. 1267 01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:26.399 Dozens of people were caught up in that collision. At 1268 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.039 least eight people have been confirmed injured and at least 1269 01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:33.000 one fatality. That is according to a tweet coming from 1270 01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:36.479 the mayor of Charlotte's film. It caught everybody who was 1271 01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:40.640 taking part in that protest by surprise. You can see 1272 01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.600 from the debris there again the force of the impact. 1273 01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.640 I must add at this point a lot of people 1274 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:51.960 assuming that this was a deliberate assault upon the counter protesters, 1275 01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:54.680 the anti white nationalist protest. That may be the case, 1276 01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:56.600 but we cannot say that for certain of this case. 1277 01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:57.880 As has been explained, there. 1278 01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.159 Have been incidents that have had in the past where 1279 01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:02.479 it wasn't deliberate. 1280 01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:06.239 As soon as we know who the culprit. 1281 01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:09.159 In the car was, the perpetrator should say and exactly 1282 01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:11.840 are a little bit clearer about the motivation. We will 1283 01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:14.239 bring that to you as soon as we know. If 1284 01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:16.560 anyone's been apprehended, we'll let you know. We do know 1285 01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:18.760 that the state trooper, according to reports, set off in 1286 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:23.119 pursuit of the vehicle responsible, which then reversed back down 1287 01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:29.000 the road, injuring further people in the protest as a result. Now, 1288 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:32.880 though the police have taken control. Earlier we'd seen violence 1289 01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:35.960 break out at this white nationalist protest. 1290 01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:39.760 The police had brought in riot police. 1291 01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:42.840 The National Guard had actually been set out onto the 1292 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:46.199 streets to try and clear the protest in anticipation of 1293 01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:49.239 things getting worse, but they weren't able to intervene in 1294 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:56.439 time to stop this fatal incident from occurring. Now, and 1295 01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:58.479 I must warn you once again you may very well 1296 01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:01.479 find these images disturbed being here is again the moment 1297 01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:04.600 where this vehicle crashed into two other cars and into 1298 01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:26.079 a crowd of counter protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia. 1299 01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:32.520 Oh my god, I just ran down all of these people. 1300 01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:34.960 Those cars just. 1301 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:57.600 Mowed down all of these people. Holy shock, Your cars 1302 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.000 mowed down all of these proteins. 1303 01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:03.680 Girl on the ground. 1304 01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.800 Was too much, It was too hard to. 1305 01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:09.880 There was a girl from the brand, he got to 1306 01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:12.640 try to get up. 1307 01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:13.880 Intentional. 1308 01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.000 It was intentional. They've backed up and they'd hit again. 1309 01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:19.720 Intentional terrorist attack said. 1310 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:24.560 As I mentioned, there's still no official confirmation regarding whether 1311 01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.600 this attack was or was not deliberate. The driver we're 1312 01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:31.159 understanding now is in police custody. Early we spoke to 1313 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:33.439 our own up to a journalist and a political analyst. 1314 01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:36.399 He suspects that this attack was indeed carried out on purpose. 1315 01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:41.439 That was clearly a deliberate, deliberate terrorist attack. 1316 01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:44.800 Okay, welcome back, everybody. You're listening to Boiler Room on 1317 01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:48.239 Alternate Current Radio. We're having an impromptu show here today. 1318 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.680 We were joined by Andy Nowicki a little bit earlier, 1319 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:54.119 who was calling in live from Charlottesville, Virginia to give 1320 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:58.039 his report on what he saw today, what he experienced 1321 01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.840 out there as part of that march, along with Richard 1322 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:06.319 Spencer and a bunch of other people. So he's got 1323 01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:08.720 some great videos up there on his YouTube page. Everybody 1324 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.399 go check those out, bookmark those for later. There's going 1325 01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:13.439 to be more coming out as well that he hasn't 1326 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:17.359 uploaded yet, but you can see Andy and some of 1327 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:20.199 the people he was with facing off against a large 1328 01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:25.600 force of riot police that were claiming that their rally 1329 01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.520 was unlawful and that they needed to disperse. And just 1330 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:31.720 as we were getting Andy on to talk about that, 1331 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:35.880 news started breaking about a car plowing into people at 1332 01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:40.159 the Unite the Right march And you just heard Patrick 1333 01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:45.399 henningson on RT live there. So Patrick is able to 1334 01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:48.079 join us here. We're also joined by Randy Jay and 1335 01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:51.520 Funk Soul. So, gentlemen, welcome back to the live stream here, 1336 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.359 and Patrick, thanks for joining us. That was a really 1337 01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:56.479 good breakdown you gave there on RT. You kind of 1338 01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:59.199 helped them balance it out a little bit. The guess 1339 01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:03.119 they had before you was, boy, I think he might 1340 01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:04.880 have been an Antifa member. 1341 01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:07.880 I'm not sure well, And the guess they have on 1342 01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:10.960 after me was basically saying that this was that was 1343 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:15.039 a deliberate terrorist attack by the person hit the car, 1344 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:17.319 And you know, quite frankly, like if you're not there, 1345 01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:21.359 and it's going to take a police investigation to figure 1346 01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:24.680 out really what happened, because you know, tensions are high. 1347 01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:26.960 You know, you put a lot of thousands of people 1348 01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:29.520 in there, and you put traffic in there, and you 1349 01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:32.760 squeeze that into an alley way. You know, anything could happen, 1350 01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:35.920 anything could set off anything. It looks like someone hit 1351 01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:40.479 their brakes, most likely because of the protesters. It's stopping 1352 01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:43.399 their car or something, and then someone rear ended them, 1353 01:17:44.119 --> 01:17:48.520 and then someone rear ended them. Yeah, okay. So the 1354 01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:51.159 third car, I think it looked like a Camaro or 1355 01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:55.439 something was or a Mustang I'm not sure, or a 1356 01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:59.600 hell Cat was basically reversed out of there and it's 1357 01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:04.000 front end was completely mashed up, so it could have 1358 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:07.479 panicked and hit the accelerator and end up, you know, 1359 01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:10.640 trying to you know, trying to reverse, end up going 1360 01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.800 forward hitting somebody. But they're they're total the front end 1361 01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.119 of their car, so they definitely hit a vehicle or 1362 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:20.159 something as well. So you don't know what happened. I mean, 1363 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:23.119 she's going to have to take some witness statements and 1364 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:28.079 some forensic investigation to figure that one out. I personally 1365 01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.199 doubt I might be wrong, you know, but I personally 1366 01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:33.399 doubt that someone would go in there with the attention 1367 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:39.039 of running people over. I just don't see that happening. 1368 01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:41.720 I mean, I don't know. Maybe that's just me, but 1369 01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:44.840 that's not like American style behavior. 1370 01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:48.039 Really, you know, yeah, but and you see that a lot. 1371 01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:50.159 You know, you see people I lived in a place 1372 01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:55.079 once where there was a dentist's office out in the 1373 01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:57.239 front part of the building where I lived in, and 1374 01:18:58.279 --> 01:19:02.560 somebody drove up a tree. They literally, you know, when 1375 01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:05.800 when people are in a scattered frame of mind. This 1376 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.840 was probably an older person got confused, hit the accelerator 1377 01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:12.880 and drive instead of reverse and knocked a fence down 1378 01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:15.640 and drove their car up onto a tree. You know. So, 1379 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:19.000 I mean, I can imagine it's easy to imagine that, 1380 01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:21.720 you know, an accident could happen like that in a 1381 01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:26.239 stressful situation where you know, crowd, there's a crowd of people. 1382 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:29.840 I mean, it clearly didn't look like the uh I 1383 01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:32.279 think it was a truck actually that hit the two 1384 01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:34.800 cars in front of it, and then it went into 1385 01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:36.920 reverse real fast, but then it stopped. You know, it 1386 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.800 didn't seem like it was trying to escape really, And 1387 01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:44.279 the person allegedly is in custody that was driving that truck. 1388 01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:46.880 So it's going to be interesting to see what kind 1389 01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:49.920 of narrative comes out of the mainstream media on this 1390 01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:52.680 or you know, and of course there's the possibility that 1391 01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:57.399 could be used spun for political purposes as well if 1392 01:19:57.439 --> 01:19:59.680 it was an organic event, and it it did seem 1393 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.199 like and it was very different from some of the 1394 01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:06.359 European car attacks like we've seen in the past. 1395 01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:10.399 Well, the one they called a terrorist attack in Finsbury Park, 1396 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:14.680 you remember that last month or two months ago, right, Yeah, 1397 01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:18.960 it's apparently a white supremacist mowed down a Muslim outside 1398 01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.800 the mosque at midnight. Well, it turns out that the 1399 01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:27.039 person that supposedly died is actually an old, elderly person 1400 01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:31.399 that had collapsed before the van came over the cross walk. 1401 01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:35.239 So I mean that the whole story has been that 1402 01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:37.600 you still see people in the news saying they mowed 1403 01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:40.720 us down in Finsbury Park. Well, that's to me a 1404 01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:44.720 bogus story. It just on its face, it seems to 1405 01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:47.880 me like that's a false narrative. But yet the media 1406 01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:50.000 still runs with it. So then now they're saying, well, 1407 01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.319 we've seen this terrorist attack in London and this is 1408 01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:55.640 what the alt right or the white nationalists or the 1409 01:20:55.920 --> 01:20:59.319 whatever did. And I'm not sort of apologizing for you know, 1410 01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:02.600 the Tommy Robinson types and the pigitas, because I think 1411 01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:07.039 that most of them are complete idiots. But the you know, 1412 01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:11.119 that wasn't it. I don't think somehow that wasn't He 1413 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:13.760 didn't kill that person, didn't strike them with the van. 1414 01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:16.680 I just don't from what I read and saw from 1415 01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:19.079 the news reports, that actually didn't happen. But the media 1416 01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:23.319 just ran with the narrative anyway. So it's amazing something 1417 01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:27.239 of that high profile people will get it wrong. It's incredible. 1418 01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:30.640 Yeah, And it's still floating around out there as though 1419 01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:35.560 it was a car attack, and it's you know, I 1420 01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:38.199 gotta wonder how this one's going to turn out in 1421 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.600 the end. There they're showing, you know, current scenes of 1422 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:42.880 that street. It's all blocked off, there's no one there. 1423 01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:46.399 It's ready for the FBI to come in and frame 1424 01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:48.560 the story however they want to. Probably. 1425 01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:52.720 Yeah, So you know, I look at these pro I 1426 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:56.039 mean this is flash mob city. I mean, like this 1427 01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:59.119 is Antifa fit. Go look at their Facebook groups. They're 1428 01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:03.920 fucking huge, right, so they can mobilize on Twitter and 1429 01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:09.399 they literally flash mob at anytime and h and so 1430 01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:13.279 they are absolutely violent. They're up to carrying sticks, they're 1431 01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.199 beating people with them. You know, they're out for a fight. 1432 01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:18.840 It's no doubt about it. No, if sands or butts, 1433 01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:21.640 this group is there is there for a fight. They're 1434 01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:25.119 there for physical violence, and if they don't get it, 1435 01:22:25.159 --> 01:22:30.359 then it's not going to be worthwhile. You know, it's 1436 01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:33.119 not gonna be a worthwild event for them unless there's 1437 01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:37.319 some violence there. You know, look look at this, it's amazing. 1438 01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:41.159 And they say that, you know there's there's tear gas 1439 01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:45.159 and violence breaking out on both sides. Well maybe that's true, 1440 01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:46.680 but I've seen a lot of footage today, and the 1441 01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:50.000 only footage I've seen, all the violence was incited by 1442 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:52.720 the Antifa types. You know, they've always. 1443 01:22:52.479 --> 01:22:53.880 If you look at if you look at all the 1444 01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:56.800 Antifa footage and you look at all the events, that's 1445 01:22:56.840 --> 01:23:00.920 always the case. Always. The violence is always initiated and 1446 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:07.279 always started by the these Antifa maniacs basically, and they're 1447 01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:12.960 political mission statement is non existent. They're totally bogused. They 1448 01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.960 just oppose fascism. What the hell does that mean? We 1449 01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:19.760 oppose the KKK, We opposed Trump. He's racist, the racist 1450 01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:23.439 policies of this White House, the racist Trump administration. What 1451 01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:26.760 kind of bullshit talking point is that? You know this 1452 01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:33.720 isn't a race, show me what's racist about this last 1453 01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:37.479 whatever how many months in office? You know, Oh, he 1454 01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:40.840 wants to build a wall. Oh he wants to you know, 1455 01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:45.640 he's stopping immigration, and he put a travel band on Muslims. Okay, 1456 01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:48.279 you can argue sort of the points of that, and 1457 01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:51.720 and I do and I will, but you know, to 1458 01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:58.840 call it racism is just basically toxifying the conversation immediately. Uh. 1459 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.720 And so this is what that sort of side of 1460 01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:03.399 the are. 1461 01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:07.199 Doing and sad and they had no sad, they had 1462 01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:11.000 no care to do that when Obama was in office. 1463 01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:13.640 You know, nothing he did could ever be racist, even 1464 01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:17.920 though he you know, bombed more people than just about 1465 01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:19.479 any other president we've had. 1466 01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:22.600 It's it's not it's not only that if if Obama 1467 01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:27.000 injected racism at every single opportunity, whether it was Trayvon Martin, 1468 01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:31.279 whether it was Ferguson, whether it was anything, he would 1469 01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:33.880 he would come out and then sort of inject himself 1470 01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:37.279 into it and to ratchet up the tension. And so 1471 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:41.000 race relations hit an all time low under in the 1472 01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:44.199 US under President Obama. And there's a reason for that 1473 01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:47.399 because him and Eric Holder basically had on their agenda 1474 01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:50.680 with al Sharpton egging them on and doing his uh 1475 01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:56.479 you know, street racketeering that that shaking companies down, shaking 1476 01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.640 NGOs down for sort of uh going on this sort 1477 01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:03.960 of hard race line, identity polocks line, or he's going 1478 01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:07.119 to mobilize protests at their office, or whether he did 1479 01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:10.079 that with Hollywood, for god's sakes, with Sony pictures. So 1480 01:25:10.279 --> 01:25:13.159 you know, that's what eight years of Obama did. And 1481 01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:18.720 so they're completely supporting this. Absolutely, the Democratic grassroots totally 1482 01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:22.000 behind this Antifa thing because they see it as a 1483 01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:24.159 sort of sharp end of the spear and sort of 1484 01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:27.520 hopefully getting rid of Trump. But it's doing nothing for 1485 01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:32.159 them politically because this group has no they've got nothing 1486 01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:35.560 to offer. It's just it's just showing up and just 1487 01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:40.239 being rebellious and anarchist and destroying stuff like we saw 1488 01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:45.720 in Charlotte, North Carolina, like we saw in Portland, like 1489 01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:48.760 we saw in Ferguson, and like we've seen in so 1490 01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:54.840 many other places. And so you know, that's it's completely 1491 01:25:55.800 --> 01:26:00.239 it's productiveless. That's a real word. I use that word 1492 01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:02.560 non productive. 1493 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:07.359 Yeah, well it works in a situation where we're dealing 1494 01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:12.239 with anybody who's not you know, part of that extreme 1495 01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:17.000 leftist sort of philosophy is now a KKK, a white supremacist. 1496 01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:19.520 I was shocked at some of the guests they had 1497 01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:22.479 on our t there just making blanket statements about the 1498 01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:25.680 alt right and playing into this whole concept of well, 1499 01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:28.880 if you're not with us, you're now a Nazi. It 1500 01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:33.159 doesn't matter if you're a constitutionalist, a patriot, a alt right, 1501 01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:37.239 alt light, anywhere to the right of center, and all 1502 01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:41.119 of a sudden, you're a nazi, you're a KKK, you're 1503 01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:45.560 a racist. I thought it was just really bad the 1504 01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:47.439 way that they try to paint that. 1505 01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:53.880 Yeah, yeah, it's just ridiculous. There's there's no conversation to 1506 01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:54.319 be had. 1507 01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:58.319 That's the most unfortunate part about it. To me. It's like, 1508 01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:05.239 you know, now there's just this growing population that is 1509 01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:07.880 going to be totally unable to even have a conversation 1510 01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:11.720 about any of these issues just because you know, they 1511 01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:15.319 recognize that someone is not in their identity politic and 1512 01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:17.319 it's really sad. 1513 01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:19.680 And so you know, people around the world are looking 1514 01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:22.359 at this and they're getting this impression that, oh, look 1515 01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:24.960 what Trump's done to America. You know, this is kind 1516 01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:28.880 of the sort of the standard talking point, Oh, you know, 1517 01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:31.479 he's and so what they're doing here in America here 1518 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:34.119 and what this is, this is the same as what 1519 01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:37.720 they're doing in Venezuela. So it's the deep State are 1520 01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:40.359 doing what they do in foreign countries, they're doing it 1521 01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:44.199 in the United States. Okay, So what you're looking at 1522 01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:47.079 it's just a more soft, kind of americanized shopping mall 1523 01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:51.479 version of the sort of the hardcore shit that you're 1524 01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:57.399 seeing in Venezuela, Syria, Tunisia, Egypt. That's real hardcore. You know, 1525 01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:00.399 it's a real loss of life in that one. You know, 1526 01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:03.760 police officers getting killed, and you know, people getting shot, 1527 01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:07.119 run over by police cars, and you know, like in 1528 01:28:07.159 --> 01:28:10.079 Egypt during the Arab Spring Attire Square, you know, they're 1529 01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:13.079 literally a police are just running over protesters and just 1530 01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:17.039 not stopping. Basically, I think the one thousand people or something. 1531 01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:19.520 I don't know how many people got injured or killed, 1532 01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:23.000 but it was it was a lot, you know. But 1533 01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:26.319 so this is kind of a soft Americanized Facebook, you know, 1534 01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:31.239 nice Silicon Valley version of the sort of you know, 1535 01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:35.479 Color Revolution, I guess in the United States. But it 1536 01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:39.039 can never go anywhere because because they because you can't 1537 01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:42.520 in the US. You know this, It's not Venezuela, it's 1538 01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:46.960 not Syria, it's the USA. And most Americans don't give 1539 01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:50.720 a damn about this. Most Americans are just getting on 1540 01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:55.399 with it. And these people are just freaks, quite frankly, 1541 01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:58.720 and I'm going to say, I'm going to say there's 1542 01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:03.720 freakishness on both sides, on the right and definitely on 1543 01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.800 the left. But on the right they're saying, oh, we're 1544 01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:10.439 peaceful and we're all this, and they're talking about this 1545 01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:13.920 sort of racial purity stuff, and that's a big talking point, 1546 01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:16.560 and of course they're going to set off. It's making 1547 01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:20.479 themselves an easy target by doing that from these sort 1548 01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:23.560 of groups on the left, So they're fueling it actually, 1549 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.199 but they're also raking in all the ad revenue on 1550 01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:30.520 their YouTube channels and their websites by taking this kind 1551 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:38.159 of Pageita type stance and being so called controversial. I've 1552 01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:40.800 seen people who have just reinvented themselves in the last 1553 01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:45.279 three years. They just become this new personality and they've 1554 01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:50.640 made a shitload of money doing it, some big names 1555 01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:54.920 that we all know anyway. But you know, so there's 1556 01:29:54.960 --> 01:29:58.520 that there's that aspect of it as well, and so 1557 01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:03.520 you know, bullshit on both sides. But I think actually 1558 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:09.520 it's slightly worse. The Antifa thing is slightly worse because 1559 01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:11.520 I'm I think I should have said this on the 1560 01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:15.199 air NRT, but they absolutely have, you know, a federal 1561 01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:21.880 FBI informants and agitators embedded in Antifa, just like every 1562 01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:27.000 other major group, and so does the the right wing groups. 1563 01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:29.960 Yeah, I was going to bring that up too. I'm 1564 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:32.399 glad you mentioned it because we're talking about that on 1565 01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:35.520 the back line. Funk Soul Randy and I were talking 1566 01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:38.760 about that. You know how anytime we see any of 1567 01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:42.720 these events like this, there's always that one guy or 1568 01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:45.720 those five or six guys there that are claiming their 1569 01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:49.560 KKK or you know, they are one of these extreme 1570 01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:54.279 factions that the media wants to conflate into the the 1571 01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:59.000 larger population of one of these groups like Antifa or 1572 01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:02.199 like the alt right. We've seen this over and over again, 1573 01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:04.880 so you know, for sure we see a guy there 1574 01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:09.680 holding a KKK sign, a pro KKK sign, there's a 1575 01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:13.560 good chance that guy's a FED or some sort of agitator, 1576 01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:14.359 you say. 1577 01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:20.319 In fact, it's always those guys and so you see this. 1578 01:31:20.439 --> 01:31:23.840 We saw this in the pat con uh operation pat 1579 01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:29.000 Con with the FEDS infiltrating militia groups and patriot militia. 1580 01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:32.199 It's called pat con or short for patriot conspiracy. And 1581 01:31:32.279 --> 01:31:35.920 so that that was just normal bill of fare for 1582 01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:39.439 the FBI to do that. And the environmental groups too, 1583 01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:43.960 all this sort of and the payta animal activists, vegetarian activists, 1584 01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:48.279 you know, blowing stuff up, bombing uh in, the abortion 1585 01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:53.359 activists as well, pro life activists. That you have agitators 1586 01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:56.680 in there that are embedded as well, and then in 1587 01:31:56.720 --> 01:31:59.520 some cases, in most cases, in all cases, in fact, 1588 01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:05.199 probably they're steering sort of the hardest core, sharp end 1589 01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:10.840 of the agitation. And so that's proven throughout history. So 1590 01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:13.279 that's the problem whenever you get a group, whenever you 1591 01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:16.279 get something under an activist. This is why I just 1592 01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:19.760 don't have time for activist groups anymore, because every single 1593 01:32:19.840 --> 01:32:23.560 one can be infiltrated. Once you have a group, and 1594 01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:27.560 once you have a political organization, whatever it is. It 1595 01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:30.279 could start off as genuine, but it won't be long 1596 01:32:30.399 --> 01:32:35.319 until it's infiltrated, and then people will radicalize it or 1597 01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:39.640 destroy it or take it off into a cul de 1598 01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:43.000 Sac or whatever. I see it all the time. And 1599 01:32:43.039 --> 01:32:46.920 so that's why, you know, if you're running something like that, 1600 01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:48.720 you know you have to be so well organized to 1601 01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:50.520 keep that from happening. But this is just a free 1602 01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:53.359 for all, the Santifa thing, I mean, it's a joke. 1603 01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:56.840 It's just a Facebook. Anybody could get in there. You 1604 01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:00.079 could have anybody in there or as at least at 1605 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:02.640 least on this unite right, I would venture to say 1606 01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.279 that they all knew each other. Uh, that everyone knew 1607 01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:07.800 who probably knew most of them knew each other, and 1608 01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:09.560 they could probably vouch for each other. 1609 01:33:10.199 --> 01:33:10.319 Uh. 1610 01:33:10.640 --> 01:33:13.159 You know, you might not agree with all of their politics, 1611 01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:15.680 but you know, but this Antifa thing, it's a free 1612 01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:18.159 for all. You know, anyone could come in, even from 1613 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:20.680 out of the country, could appear to get a plane 1614 01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:24.079 and you know, land in DC and next thing, you know, 1615 01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:27.119 and therein Yeah. Because I'm looking at this footage now, 1616 01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:30.920 this car thing, definitely someone got panicked and then the 1617 01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:34.760 guy reversed out of there. It's not a terrorist I can't. 1618 01:33:35.079 --> 01:33:38.720 I cannot believe what I'm watching here as a terrorist attack. No, 1619 01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:42.520 I have all time, honestly, and I'll tell you this too. 1620 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:45.920 That's a damn nice car that person was driving. And 1621 01:33:47.079 --> 01:33:50.199 if you're driving a Dodge hell Cat or something like, 1622 01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:53.640 that thing looked like it was in cherry condition and 1623 01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:56.479 the last thing you want to do is just destroy it. 1624 01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:01.920 So but yeah, he toltally, he basically rear ended somebody 1625 01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:06.399 and I don't know what happened, but it looks like 1626 01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:09.520 he had rear ended them first, and so it looked 1627 01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:11.640 like a pile up. I mean, that's obviously what I'm 1628 01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:14.119 looking at. So have these idiots coming on the news 1629 01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:17.399 calling it a terrorist attack. I mean they should be 1630 01:34:17.960 --> 01:34:23.319 arrested for you know, pumping out insightful fake news. Well 1631 01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:26.520 in a police state run by me anyway. 1632 01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:33.720 Yeah, hey everyone, maybe that terrorism's going going the way 1633 01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:37.039 of racism. And what I mean by that is perhaps 1634 01:34:37.079 --> 01:34:39.560 we're just going to see the word just thrown around 1635 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.560 willy nilly like it's this is an active terror. 1636 01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:44.039 That's an active terror. 1637 01:34:44.479 --> 01:34:48.880 And it'll just it'll cease to uh mean an active 1638 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:50.680 terror like it like it once did. 1639 01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:55.439 Yeah, yeah, I know, you're probably it's probably we'll see 1640 01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:59.039 how this one pans out. I expect to hear. I mean, 1641 01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:01.399 I'm not watching you TV and I'm not going to 1642 01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:03.800 sit there and ride it. But if you guys ride CNN, 1643 01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:07.920 you'll get some cherry talking points. Actually, if you do, 1644 01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:12.439 please send me the MP three recordings and all play 1645 01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:13.079 it on the show. 1646 01:35:13.239 --> 01:35:16.039 Okay, Yeah, we'll be keeping our eye out for them. 1647 01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:19.840 And you know, you make a good point about Antifa there. 1648 01:35:19.880 --> 01:35:23.199 I mean, these people they wear masks, and most of 1649 01:35:23.239 --> 01:35:26.560 the people, at least the prominent people on the alt right, 1650 01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:29.479 you know, they You're right, they do know each other. 1651 01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:33.000 They're very public about their views and what their platform 1652 01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:37.960 is exactly, you know, and and these Antifas they don't. 1653 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:40.520 And you know the other thing about the niphos, they 1654 01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:42.680 show up in all masks and everything nobody, you know, 1655 01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:47.600 they all want to keep their anonymity. And when you 1656 01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:54.279 look at their their local marches, they're usually maybe you know, 1657 01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:58.840 a dozen people at most. So you mentioned on RT 1658 01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:01.479 that you know one like this, it's like you've got 1659 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:04.279 people coming from all over the nation like they're being 1660 01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:08.760 busted in or something like that. Totally, it sticks out 1661 01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:12.359 to me that there's so many at certain events. You know, 1662 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:15.439 it's like the planned events, the ones that are planned 1663 01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:18.199 out way in advance that aren't held early in the 1664 01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:22.800 morning and have the most coverage. There's always like hundreds 1665 01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:24.560 of these people, but then you look at one of 1666 01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:32.399 their local chapters and it's tiny. I just find it 1667 01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:37.039 very strange, you know. I mean, usually like one guy 1668 01:36:37.199 --> 01:36:40.560 can take on five or six antifaz you know, if 1669 01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:43.319 you just find them on a street corner in Portland 1670 01:36:43.359 --> 01:36:45.199 or something like that. But then you get something like 1671 01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:48.840 this and all of a sudden there's hundreds of them. 1672 01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:52.399 Yeah, and they're throwing this word fascism around as well. 1673 01:36:52.439 --> 01:36:56.279 I'm watching in the news right now, and who are 1674 01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:59.479 these people? Honestly, who are these people? 1675 01:36:59.760 --> 01:36:59.920 Yeah? 1676 01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:03.840 This is just so easy to do. I mean they're 1677 01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:07.680 on a crusade, and you know what, what do they want? 1678 01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:11.119 You know what? What? What? What did you want? More 1679 01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:13.880 war with Hillary Clinton? Is that you know, you know, 1680 01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:19.880 wanted to bomb bomb Syria, bomb a couple other countries maybe, 1681 01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:26.199 Bob i Ran I guess yeah, I mean and so 1682 01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:32.079 and Bernie Sanders is you know, crazy old man really 1683 01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:35.600 that just basically became a Democrat so he could run 1684 01:37:35.640 --> 01:37:40.159 for president, who arguably probably had a better chance than 1685 01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:43.640 than Hillary to win in general. But I mean, god, 1686 01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:48.079 I mean, if you think Donald Trump's unsightly and you know, 1687 01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:52.800 not qualified. You know, Bernie Sanders is promising free college 1688 01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:55.359 tuition to people just to get votes. I mean, it's 1689 01:37:55.439 --> 01:37:58.800 that's pathetic, but that's what was going on during the 1690 01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:03.960 campaign there, talking about all this stuff. So yeah, I 1691 01:38:04.039 --> 01:38:07.119 don't know, it's pretty hopeless. Really, they're not they're not 1692 01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:09.960 going to gain any ground from this. On the left. 1693 01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:13.279 They're not going to gain any ground from it. And 1694 01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:18.479 they keep doing this, and it's just they're just going 1695 01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:22.279 to get more radical. You know, they're going to get there. 1696 01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:25.840 They're totally radicalized now, and then they're going to start 1697 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.800 fighting each other for leadership positions. And basically it's like 1698 01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:36.159 a bad, bad, weird version of the Tea Party. It's 1699 01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:42.840 like a militarized, violent leftist kind of mutation of the 1700 01:38:42.920 --> 01:38:47.479 Tea Party. This is what's going on. You know, it's hopeless. 1701 01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:50.399 It's a joke. I mean, look at all these people, 1702 01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:54.279 you know, none of them have only a couple of 1703 01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:58.760 them have jobs. Everyone's got tattoos though I noticed. 1704 01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:00.560 Oh yeah, plenty of times for tattoos. 1705 01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:03.039 They got money for tats, they got money for. 1706 01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:07.479 Freaking hair color. 1707 01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:11.359 Yeah, oh yeah, all that ship. Yeah, colored hair and 1708 01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:16.840 all that joy. Wow. Yeah, they're filming everything and just 1709 01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:18.479 like so what you know, what do you what do 1710 01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:22.479 you got to offer? You know, just say it, get 1711 01:39:22.520 --> 01:39:25.079 that together, put that out, then let's have a let's 1712 01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:27.079 have a discussion of where to take the country. 1713 01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:30.319 It is a shallow though, is Hey, what are you 1714 01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:34.159 guys doing this weekend? Oh, it's trending that on you know, 1715 01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:37.560 it's training on Twitter and Facebook that you know, this 1716 01:39:37.640 --> 01:39:40.800 thing's going down. You guys want to go. Yeah, I 1717 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:43.239 mean that's how shallow some of it is. 1718 01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:45.279 Well, that's what you do when you're young. I mean, 1719 01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:47.560 when when stuff's breaking out, you want to be there. 1720 01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:47.960 You know. 1721 01:39:49.159 --> 01:39:51.800 I've been in a couple of riots and I've been 1722 01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:54.880 tear gassed and it was it was it was you know, 1723 01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:57.800 it was a bonding experience for a young person, you know, 1724 01:39:57.880 --> 01:39:59.800 and it's like there was no point to it at all. 1725 01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:02.359 It was no point. It was like it was over beer. 1726 01:40:02.439 --> 01:40:04.359 I think it was the beer riots of San Luis 1727 01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:10.039 obispo In in nineteen ninety one or something like that, 1728 01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:13.359 I mean, or ninety nineteen ninety Yeah, and it was 1729 01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:16.119 just pointless. It was just it was just it was 1730 01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:19.520 just you know, craziness for craziness sake. The police showed 1731 01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:22.800 up and teargassed everybody, and then they students tore the 1732 01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:26.279 place to pieces, and yeah. 1733 01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:29.680 Doesn't it have the depth of you know, the Golden 1734 01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:35.159 State Warriors, you know, won the NBA Championship, Real Madrid won. 1735 01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.079 Let's go flip a car and light it on fire. 1736 01:40:38.239 --> 01:40:43.439 Yeah, yeah, well more like the football analogy, Randy, Maybe 1737 01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:48.479 not so much. The Warriors don't diss my team. No, no, NBA, 1738 01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:49.960 you know, we don't do that, you know we did. 1739 01:40:50.239 --> 01:40:55.880 But definitely English Football League, Polish Premier League, or you know, 1740 01:40:56.640 --> 01:41:02.640 Turkey versus England. You know, some abbings and fire bomb 1741 01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:05.319 fire bomb police cars. Yeah, that's all good, that's all. 1742 01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:06.920 That's all good fun. 1743 01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:14.520 Yeah, it's the stage made fascist versus the the board, you. 1744 01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:16.119 Know, twenty. 1745 01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:21.600 Look they're all carrying flags. Okay, they've all got these 1746 01:41:21.600 --> 01:41:27.239 red flags with what definitely it's gotten Nazi connotations to it. 1747 01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:31.159 This is on the leftist Okay, it's like, you know, 1748 01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:33.600 so you have to remember the National Socialists as well. 1749 01:41:34.359 --> 01:41:38.640 We're definitely of the leftist variety when they sort of formed. 1750 01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:42.359 But so the fact they've all got they're in America 1751 01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:45.199 and they're carrying these flags around. It's the most bizarre thing. 1752 01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:49.319 You know, who carries freaking flags around in America? I mean, 1753 01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:52.680 it's something about it. It's just not right, nothing about 1754 01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:54.319 nothing about it's right. 1755 01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:59.039 Have you noticed that the they're using like I don't 1756 01:41:59.039 --> 01:42:01.359 know what you would call it, like closet dowl you 1757 01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:03.239 know what I mean, Like something that's got like a 1758 01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:08.199 two inch diameter, like a you know, a violent weapon, 1759 01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:10.760 a blunt force weapon. It seems to me that it's 1760 01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:14.000 not so much about carrying their flag as it is 1761 01:42:14.079 --> 01:42:18.039 about having, you know, a bow staff to hit people with. 1762 01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:23.600 Yeah, that's well, they can get those cheap at home base. Yes, 1763 01:42:23.640 --> 01:42:24.319 that's why. 1764 01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:26.159 That's right. They can take it right out of their 1765 01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:29.039 lobby lobby. They pull it right out of their mom's closet. 1766 01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:35.319 Yeah, downing wooden dowling a hobby lobby, you know, go 1767 01:42:35.399 --> 01:42:37.439 down there before you get to the pro st, where's 1768 01:42:37.439 --> 01:42:40.079 the nearest hobby lobby. You've gotta get some wooden dowlings. 1769 01:42:41.920 --> 01:42:43.720 It's kind of a ridiculous. 1770 01:42:43.720 --> 01:42:45.880 They're all out, they're all out. Look online, Oh we 1771 01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:47.319 got to go to Walmart now. 1772 01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:51.880 Yeah, I saw a guy wearing a German World War two, 1773 01:42:53.319 --> 01:42:57.920 uh helmet. You know there's somebody these guys, you know 1774 01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:01.479 what side they were on. And the Confederate flag, I mean, 1775 01:43:01.479 --> 01:43:03.840 that's of course going to be and you know that's 1776 01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:08.600 just like you know, like it's like a bug light, 1777 01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:12.479 you know in the Philippines. You know, it's just gonna 1778 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.640 it's gonna attract the biggest sort of creatures you can imagine, 1779 01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:19.760 I mean, and NonStop. So you know, whoever's waving that around, 1780 01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:22.279 I mean, that's you have your right to do that. 1781 01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:24.239 In America, of course, there's going to be a reaction 1782 01:43:24.359 --> 01:43:27.119 to it. But I mean, I know people from the 1783 01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:30.279 South that sort of like they fancy they're General Lee, 1784 01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:34.760 And I wouldn't call them racist or classify them as racist, 1785 01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:37.439 but they're just proud of being in the South and 1786 01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:44.199 has the unfortunate byproduct of being associated with slavery as well, 1787 01:43:44.720 --> 01:43:47.720 you know, one hundred and fifty years ago. So unfortunately 1788 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:51.520 that's the outgrowth of the Confederate flag and what that 1789 01:43:51.640 --> 01:43:58.760 sort of sets off on an American partisan politics. But 1790 01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:01.239 you know, we all used to watch the Dukes of 1791 01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:04.880 Hazard growing up, and we weren't it wasn't you know, 1792 01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:08.880 there wasn't any racist overtones in that show at all, 1793 01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:11.479 not that I know of. Just like really, you know, 1794 01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:16.840 loads of Southern Hicks and you know moonshine runners, and 1795 01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:19.920 you know it's like what driving. 1796 01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:22.840 The car by there by a lot of the standards 1797 01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:26.039 applied today that movie. I mean, if you wanted to 1798 01:44:26.119 --> 01:44:30.600 spin it or that program would be considered racist against 1799 01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:34.279 Southern whites. If someone wanted to, you know, spin it 1800 01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:36.960 that way, they could, but it wasn't meant to be. 1801 01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:39.920 No one ever, You're right, no one ever took it 1802 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:44.000 that way or did some sort of you know, psychological 1803 01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:46.359 think tank thing on it like that, because that's not. 1804 01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:51.119 What it was. Well, look, the this is just people 1805 01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:55.479 are just idiotic, you know, because in America it's it's 1806 01:44:55.520 --> 01:45:01.600 it's supposed to embody the egalitarian philosophy fee right, whereby 1807 01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:04.000 you know, all people are created equal, everyone's got an 1808 01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:06.359 equal chance to succeed. Everyone can be president. My god, 1809 01:45:06.399 --> 01:45:08.439 we have the first black president. So you know, it's 1810 01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:11.319 all there, right, all for the taking. And then you 1811 01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:15.560 have but but more than just identity politics, you have 1812 01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:20.880 an entrenched elite. You have a political class that is 1813 01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:26.119 completely elitist and totally oligarchical and entrenched, and you know, 1814 01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:30.640 swamping spit with all the big corporations as well. And 1815 01:45:30.760 --> 01:45:35.039 so so how do you how can you possibly ever? 1816 01:45:35.439 --> 01:45:37.319 You know, let's say you don't want to sell your 1817 01:45:37.319 --> 01:45:40.760 soul to the devil and go into a career in politics, 1818 01:45:41.199 --> 01:45:44.640 you know, go be an intern and shovel you know 1819 01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:48.960 what for some congressman or senator and and so have 1820 01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:51.079 to look the other way while he's shagging the other 1821 01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:54.920 endtern and you know, an hour before the wife comes in, 1822 01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:58.239 and and and so, instead of selling your soul to 1823 01:45:58.279 --> 01:46:01.840 the devil and that dirty world in Washington, d C. 1824 01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:06.439 You know, why not break the mold and have somebody 1825 01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:09.960 come through to be elected president who doesn't have any 1826 01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:15.079 political resume. I mean, what is more American than that? 1827 01:46:16.279 --> 01:46:19.199 And so that's what Donald Trump has done. So just 1828 01:46:19.239 --> 01:46:23.239 as Barack Obama broke the color barrier, donald Trump broke 1829 01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:28.079 the oligarch or the sort of the political deep state barrier. 1830 01:46:28.720 --> 01:46:31.920 And to me, that's a more significant barrier because I 1831 01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:35.439 don't sort of believe in hanging your hat on color 1832 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:39.760 and genders as you're defining principle of who you are 1833 01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:43.479 living in a country like the United States. So to me, 1834 01:46:43.760 --> 01:46:47.479 it's like, you know, can can you know, can I 1835 01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:51.239 win on ideas? Can I win on leadership qualities? Can 1836 01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:55.680 I win on you know, being fast and you know, 1837 01:46:55.760 --> 01:47:00.439 being clever and you know, being quick on my feet 1838 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:05.079 and managing all the sort of moving parts. Can I 1839 01:47:05.159 --> 01:47:08.279 Can I win on that? And so that's what Trump did. Yeah, 1840 01:47:08.319 --> 01:47:10.319 he's got a lot of money, Yeah, he's got clout. 1841 01:47:10.399 --> 01:47:14.199 Yeah he's a celebrity, but he's not a politician. So 1842 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:17.880 that's a major breakthrough for American politics, especially for all 1843 01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:20.399 these people in the sort of who in the lower 1844 01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:24.119 echellence of society, because it means that they don't have 1845 01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:29.039 to kiss ass. Technically they could somehow one day if 1846 01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:33.159 they're successful or if they're you know, legitimate and they've 1847 01:47:33.159 --> 01:47:35.399 got the right ideas and they resonate with the public, 1848 01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:38.239 then they they will have a chance to attain some 1849 01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:43.840 sort of success in the political sense. And so they're 1850 01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:46.479 tearing him down for that, you see. And that's that's 1851 01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:49.399 the most Unamerican thing I can think of, is the 1852 01:47:49.600 --> 01:47:54.319 tearing down Donald Trump. It's it's it's you know, I 1853 01:47:54.319 --> 01:47:57.720 didn't see anybody tearing down Obama like this at all. Yeah, 1854 01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:00.960 they had the birth certificate thing, and you know that, 1855 01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:05.880 I personally looked at that, you know, and it looked 1856 01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:11.119 like the forgery, you know, and the Selective Service draft 1857 01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:13.600 card as well, you know, so it looked like a fake. 1858 01:48:14.520 --> 01:48:17.000 So I but I'm not in charge, and I'm not 1859 01:48:17.560 --> 01:48:20.600 you know, I don't have the authority to bring any 1860 01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:25.159 charges or to investigate further. It might have been a ruse, 1861 01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:30.479 who knows, but you know, But aside from that, I mean, 1862 01:48:30.520 --> 01:48:33.560 what was the worst thing that anyone did to Obama? 1863 01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:36.479 And people say, oh, well, they are whites resented him 1864 01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:41.199 when the whites elected Obama? Are you kidding me? Obama 1865 01:48:41.239 --> 01:48:44.399 wasn't elected by Black America. He was elected by white America. 1866 01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:49.119 And those people that were disenchanted by Obama because he 1867 01:48:49.159 --> 01:48:51.960 carried on with what Bush had started, they went and 1868 01:48:52.039 --> 01:48:55.640 voted for Trump. It's as simple as that. And this 1869 01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:58.680 is what people they will not admit or cut face 1870 01:48:58.800 --> 01:49:03.119 up to. All the people who are relentless resistance. They 1871 01:49:03.159 --> 01:49:05.439 will not face up to this reality. And therefore I 1872 01:49:05.479 --> 01:49:08.359 believe that they will lose the next election because they 1873 01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:10.520 still haven't come to grips with what's really going on 1874 01:49:12.119 --> 01:49:15.920 in the public out in the world, not on MSNBC, 1875 01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:19.920 not on CNN. That's not the world. Well, what's really 1876 01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:22.640 going on in people's heads? What people are really into, 1877 01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:27.560 what they really believe? And they're not they're not into antifa. Actually, yeah, 1878 01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:30.239 you know the other Yeah. 1879 01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:33.960 I was gonna say, Patrick that their reaction seems to 1880 01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:41.279 be too social engineer harder, rig the game, harder, censor 1881 01:49:41.359 --> 01:49:45.560 the Internet harder, do do all of these other things 1882 01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:50.159 to get to call their way, you know, back, you know, 1883 01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:53.119 maybe to the White House or at least the public 1884 01:49:53.159 --> 01:49:56.880 perception of who the current figurehead of the United States is. 1885 01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:01.159 But there's no you know, just like the whole the 1886 01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:04.239 whole message of the anti FA there's no, there's no 1887 01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:05.760 there there. 1888 01:50:06.319 --> 01:50:08.399 No, there's no. I don't even know what their message is. 1889 01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:13.520 We oppose fascism in America? What fascism? What? What? What's fascism? 1890 01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:13.720 What? 1891 01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:15.600 Trump is a fascist? 1892 01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:15.840 Well? 1893 01:50:15.880 --> 01:50:19.000 How is he a fascist? First of all? What is fascism? 1894 01:50:19.079 --> 01:50:22.359 Can we can we agree on a definition to start with, 1895 01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:27.359 because that's the first problem with this term fascism. Well, 1896 01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:29.800 I think I know what fascism is, but I use 1897 01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:34.640 more of a sort of no inn orthodox twentieth century 1898 01:50:35.119 --> 01:50:39.319 definition of it, which is more in line with corporatism. 1899 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:42.760 But then there's you know, there's government corporate fascism, and 1900 01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:47.399 then there's political fascism as well, you know, so there's 1901 01:50:47.439 --> 01:50:51.359 different aspects of fascism. There's the heavy iron glove that 1902 01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:56.439 comes comes down hard on on citizens, and then there's 1903 01:50:56.479 --> 01:50:59.359 the collusion between government and corporations. If you look at 1904 01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:03.399 the way our uh, the intermingling of government and corporations 1905 01:51:03.439 --> 01:51:08.960 in the US, especially you know, Google, they're completely fascist 1906 01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:12.399 and all these people probably love Google. In fact, all 1907 01:51:12.439 --> 01:51:16.359 the people at Google are probably cheering on Antifa right now. 1908 01:51:16.880 --> 01:51:21.079 And Google is the most fascist organization in America. They're 1909 01:51:21.079 --> 01:51:25.840 bearing free speech under their search engine algorithms, and they're 1910 01:51:25.840 --> 01:51:31.920 supposedly a leftist company promoting diversity and whatever, you know, 1911 01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:36.199 but they're they're they're definitely not promoting the values enshrined 1912 01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:38.399 in the US Constitution. Tell you that right. 1913 01:51:38.279 --> 01:51:41.439 Now, Yeah, that's for sure. You look at the ten 1914 01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:46.479 companies that put the most money into lobbying this this 1915 01:51:46.640 --> 01:51:52.279 country's politicians. You're looking at Alphabet Company, you know, Google, 1916 01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:57.399 You're looking at Pfizer, the pharmaceutical industry. You're looking at 1917 01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:01.920 Lockheed Martin, You know all these these top ten companies 1918 01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:06.560 that put the most money into lobbying, they're the ones 1919 01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:11.199 that are running this the primary aspects of the legislation 1920 01:52:11.279 --> 01:52:14.920 in the direction of the country and that, Yeah, that 1921 01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:16.520 is fascism. 1922 01:52:16.760 --> 01:52:20.239 It's not Trump Trump. Trump's got nothing to do with that. 1923 01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:23.399 Trump has zero to do with that. Yeah, he's got 1924 01:52:23.399 --> 01:52:26.000 Goldman Sacks people in his cabinet. God, everyone's works for 1925 01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:29.479 Goldman Sacks at some point in their career now, but 1926 01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:34.399 put that aside. Obama was elected by Wall Street and 1927 01:52:34.399 --> 01:52:36.600 Goldman Sacks. In fact, they told him who to appoint 1928 01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:39.840 in his cabinet, and he pretty much adhered to I 1929 01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:41.560 think it a City Bank or I don't know who 1930 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:44.880 gave him the list of his cabinet. So you need 1931 01:52:44.920 --> 01:52:47.039 these people, and I think it was like seventy percent 1932 01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:49.800 of those ended up being in the cabinet. You know, 1933 01:52:49.880 --> 01:52:53.079 a bank, you know, the same bank that's repossessing the 1934 01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:55.760 houses of the families of all these people on the 1935 01:52:55.760 --> 01:53:03.800 street with their wooden home base. Rod Ye Antifa people, right, 1936 01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:06.640 these people are complete idiots. They don't know what's going 1937 01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:08.880 on in America. They don't know what's going on in 1938 01:53:08.920 --> 01:53:12.880 the world. They haven't got a freaking clue. They're totally hopeless, 1939 01:53:13.399 --> 01:53:16.720 and they're they're as ignorant as the most ignorant redneck 1940 01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:18.079 in America. 1941 01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:21.520 Yeah, even more probably. All right, let's go to let's 1942 01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:22.960 go to funks AOL for a minute. Funks all, do 1943 01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.640 we have any updates on who was driving that Dodge? 1944 01:53:27.199 --> 01:53:29.479 Any have you heard anything new or we've been chatting? 1945 01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:32.600 Yeah, yeah, just as you guys have been rolling through things, 1946 01:53:32.640 --> 01:53:34.680 they're in the in the back line of the chat. 1947 01:53:34.720 --> 01:53:38.680 I've just been scanning the social media and surprise, surprise, 1948 01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:42.760 these so called antifa were bust in. That's what's starting 1949 01:53:42.800 --> 01:53:47.159 to come through now as reports, No surprises there, and 1950 01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:50.079 a lot of people have been taken it upon themselves 1951 01:53:50.119 --> 01:53:52.600 to go and do their own research ahead of the media, 1952 01:53:53.159 --> 01:53:55.119 and I guess the cops as well. In the situation 1953 01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:58.640 as into the identity of the driver of the Dodge, 1954 01:53:59.520 --> 01:54:01.840 A lot of people been mocking up a pastiche or 1955 01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:05.920 a montage of information and putting on social media. Now 1956 01:54:06.159 --> 01:54:11.319 I'm looking at Twitter regarding who this person is, and 1957 01:54:11.720 --> 01:54:16.920 apparently through search quarry, which is a license plate in 1958 01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:22.359 vin search engine, people have traced the identity of the 1959 01:54:22.479 --> 01:54:28.520 Dodge driver to a guy called Jerome Vangaloo. I think 1960 01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:31.159 that's how you pronounce it. Seems Afrikaans or some form 1961 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:34.159 of maybe Belgian or Dutch surname. 1962 01:54:34.279 --> 01:54:35.079 Jerome Vangaloo. 1963 01:54:35.479 --> 01:54:38.439 He's the owner of the twenty ten Dodge Challenger which 1964 01:54:38.479 --> 01:54:42.479 crashed into people. He has lived in Michigan, Ohio, and 1965 01:54:42.640 --> 01:54:47.560 possibly now lives in Detroit. It said he most likely 1966 01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:51.119 bought the car for his son, Joel j O e 1967 01:54:51.239 --> 01:54:57.199 l Joel Bengaloo. People have traced joe Vengaloo's Twitter account 1968 01:54:57.680 --> 01:55:00.600 and his Facebook account and surprise prize. 1969 01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:03.039 He seems to be very much anti Trump, and he 1970 01:55:03.119 --> 01:55:05.880 said some not so very nice things about Trump. 1971 01:55:05.960 --> 01:55:10.680 For example, if only Trump were aborted, stuff like that, 1972 01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:15.760 and yeah, so there's a lot of stuff coming in 1973 01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:17.880 like that. It's kind of starting to go viral. I 1974 01:55:17.960 --> 01:55:20.000 kind of had this about in the last ten or 1975 01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:21.760 fifteen minutes, but it's starting to kind of go through 1976 01:55:21.800 --> 01:55:26.640 the hashtag Charlottesville thread on Twitter. 1977 01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:26.960 Now. 1978 01:55:27.439 --> 01:55:30.079 Quite a young guy, actually I can get an exact 1979 01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:32.079 age on it seems like he's in the region of 1980 01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:37.000 eighteen to eighteen to twenty five and he is the 1981 01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:41.920 so called proprietor of the twenty ten Dodge Challenger, so 1982 01:55:42.880 --> 01:55:51.359 pro Antifa, anti Trump young activist is reportedly the guy 1983 01:55:51.439 --> 01:55:55.439 who mowed into the crowd in Charlottesville. 1984 01:55:55.479 --> 01:55:56.399 So there you have it. 1985 01:55:56.840 --> 01:55:59.279 Hey, fun, can you can you get us a report 1986 01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:01.279 up on that twenty first cent you are with that? 1987 01:56:01.960 --> 01:56:02.159 Yeah? 1988 01:56:02.239 --> 01:56:04.119 Yeah, absolutely, yeah, no problem, you. 1989 01:56:04.119 --> 01:56:07.520 Can slap something together. I mean, that's are you serious? 1990 01:56:07.920 --> 01:56:10.880 So that just blows away all of the commentators they 1991 01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:12.920 have just been on saying it was a terrorist attack. 1992 01:56:13.279 --> 01:56:15.680 Right, people have gone on their own research, They've used 1993 01:56:15.720 --> 01:56:19.520 logic deduction reasoning. They most likely think they I mean, 1994 01:56:19.640 --> 01:56:22.079 because when you do a search on this, you can, 1995 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:24.119 you know, through the search quarry, you can bring up 1996 01:56:24.119 --> 01:56:26.039 the name of the actual registered owner. 1997 01:56:26.880 --> 01:56:29.399 It says it says his name, his age fifty one. 1998 01:56:29.560 --> 01:56:33.279 And so they assume now that it's the that this 1999 01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:36.319 belongs to the Sun because on his Facebook page he 2000 01:56:36.399 --> 01:56:39.720 posts a picture of the twenty ten twenty ten Dodge 2001 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:42.560 vehicle saying, hey, check out check out my new vehicle. 2002 01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:47.079 So it's it's it's it's very interesting stuff. Obviously this 2003 01:56:47.119 --> 01:56:51.279 has to this has to be further checked out on whatnot. 2004 01:56:51.359 --> 01:56:54.720 But yeah, it seems to be going viral at this point, 2005 01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:57.920 and if you do go through the hashtag, it's it's 2006 01:56:57.960 --> 01:56:59.680 starting to it's starting to appear up now. 2007 01:57:00.279 --> 01:57:03.720 If if so I got I could without being there, 2008 01:57:03.760 --> 01:57:08.840 I could see editors in news newsrooms across you know, 2009 01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:15.079 North America just saying, hey, wipe that terrorist moniker off 2010 01:57:15.119 --> 01:57:15.920 the headline. 2011 01:57:16.199 --> 01:57:16.640 Hurry. 2012 01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:18.119 Yeah, heads are ex floating. 2013 01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:22.520 Yeah, oh god, I want to see who's calling it 2014 01:57:22.520 --> 01:57:27.960 a terrorist attack. I'm going to troll them so hard 2015 01:57:29.159 --> 01:57:29.720 after that. 2016 01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:30.720 Yeah much. 2017 01:57:30.880 --> 01:57:35.119 Yeah, a lot of people are calling it domestic domestic terrorism. 2018 01:57:35.239 --> 01:57:38.560 That's some of the language and semantic stuff I've been 2019 01:57:38.680 --> 01:57:42.399 seen throughout social media, as in, it's Trump's false Bridebot's fault, 2020 01:57:42.439 --> 01:57:46.520 it's it's Bannon's folds. Anyone who is you know, who 2021 01:57:47.119 --> 01:57:50.479 swings to the right is now is now a nazi racist, 2022 01:57:50.600 --> 01:57:53.880 all of these descriptors. That's it, you know, anyone on 2023 01:57:53.880 --> 01:57:56.119 the left there, their mind is made up about anyone 2024 01:57:56.119 --> 01:57:59.159 who has a conservative bone in the body, who, who 2025 01:57:59.199 --> 01:58:01.960 and what they are this point, it's just, uh, it's 2026 01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:03.920 just an overdrive. As well as some of the some 2027 01:58:03.960 --> 01:58:05.960 of the pictures that are still pearing up, the very 2028 01:58:05.960 --> 01:58:09.520 graphic pictures of mid air shots of the the dodge 2029 01:58:09.920 --> 01:58:13.000 vehicle going into people in the in the protest as well. 2030 01:58:13.079 --> 01:58:15.920 So it's it's still it's still on meltdown on that 2031 01:58:16.039 --> 01:58:17.640 on that hashtag, and it seems to be getting a 2032 01:58:17.680 --> 01:58:18.079 lot worse. 2033 01:58:18.079 --> 01:58:25.000 Actually, yeah, well it's at Salon called it terrorism of fuckers. 2034 01:58:26.399 --> 01:58:31.239 Well, the narrative, you know that that that work thrown around. 2035 01:58:31.439 --> 01:58:35.239 The narrative that that I'm seeing looking around as we've 2036 01:58:35.279 --> 01:58:39.760 been talking, is you know, divided America. Well, that's what 2037 01:58:39.800 --> 01:58:45.640 they're That's what the media at large is absolutely pushing. 2038 01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:48.399 That's their meme, that's their. 2039 01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:55.000 Sort of narrative. And again you know, it's it's just 2040 01:58:55.039 --> 01:58:59.720 to foil them against themselves and show them or in 2041 01:58:59.800 --> 01:59:04.159 the demonstrate how you know, in the tank they are with. 2042 01:59:04.239 --> 01:59:05.800 The deep state and all this other stuff. 2043 01:59:05.800 --> 01:59:09.039 But where was this conversation, Where was that divided American 2044 01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:15.680 narrative in the last presidency, when when cities were burning 2045 01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:18.960 down and there were riots and streets and in Maryland 2046 01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:24.119 and Ferguson and and elsewhere, where was the divided America 2047 01:59:24.720 --> 01:59:30.359 leadership from the top blame the guy at top narrative? 2048 01:59:30.399 --> 01:59:31.560 Then it was gone. 2049 01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:36.319 No, it was only in sort of rush Limbaugh Hannity 2050 01:59:38.600 --> 01:59:41.079 you know, tea party a few other places. Tea party 2051 01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:45.520 is a bit crazy. But and yeah, I just you know, 2052 01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:49.720 you info wars, I guess that's that's that's selling people 2053 01:59:49.720 --> 01:59:53.279 who were sort of making that commentary. So it was 2054 01:59:53.319 --> 01:59:54.199 totally for boating. 2055 01:59:55.159 --> 01:59:57.680 So if this is if this is true, if the 2056 01:59:58.239 --> 02:00:03.920 guy that hit everybody with his car is a Antifa 2057 02:00:04.119 --> 02:00:11.520 or an Antifa sympathizer, then much like the congressional baseball 2058 02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:17.359 game assassination attempt, we've possibly got another case of the 2059 02:00:17.439 --> 02:00:25.279 outrageous leftist media triggering their viewers into committing actual violence 2060 02:00:25.760 --> 02:00:28.920 while people on the right were simply there to try 2061 02:00:28.920 --> 02:00:30.399 to have a peaceful protest. 2062 02:00:30.520 --> 02:00:33.560 Yet again, because they're martyred because they're markered, and you know, 2063 02:00:33.600 --> 02:00:36.319 because they're markered, all bets are off, you know, anything 2064 02:00:36.359 --> 02:00:39.880 goes at that point, and that's that. Yeah, that's just 2065 02:00:40.119 --> 02:00:43.119 fake news. Basically, that's what the White Helmets do. You know. 2066 02:00:43.199 --> 02:00:48.520 They they do these staged films and situations and that's 2067 02:00:48.560 --> 02:00:51.359 the number one recruiting tool for basically the news for 2068 02:00:51.560 --> 02:00:56.199 front imported fighters. They see that on CNN on whatever 2069 02:00:56.840 --> 02:01:00.600 europe channel, and they say, oh God, can't let them 2070 02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:02.159 get away with this. I'm going to go there and 2071 02:01:02.199 --> 02:01:05.079 fight for freedom, yes, fight for the fight for the people. 2072 02:01:05.159 --> 02:01:07.279 And so now they've done this fake news about this 2073 02:01:07.439 --> 02:01:12.199 terrorist attack and Charlottesville. It's the alt right batter ramming 2074 02:01:12.479 --> 02:01:16.600 innocent protesters on the street and cold blood. Hey I'm 2075 02:01:16.600 --> 02:01:18.960 going to go and beat somebody or burn something down. 2076 02:01:20.119 --> 02:01:23.319 Who knows? There's no limit? Really, this this, this is 2077 02:01:23.359 --> 02:01:27.000 the media basically, ooh my goodness, this is I mean, 2078 02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:30.840 if this, if this is, if this is true? What 2079 02:01:30.840 --> 02:01:33.279 what what they're what they're digging up here? I mean 2080 02:01:33.640 --> 02:01:37.199 this just and that's the reason why you should never 2081 02:01:37.279 --> 02:01:42.159 speculate on motive on any any of these things, you know, 2082 02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:43.680 because you don't know what happened. 2083 02:01:44.560 --> 02:01:44.760 You know. 2084 02:01:45.319 --> 02:01:49.720 It's like you don't know and but you but you 2085 02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:53.119 we can know if he was, you know, an anti 2086 02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:57.319 Trump guy. At least you can make an educated guess that, hey, 2087 02:01:57.359 --> 02:02:00.319 this might be here on one side. Okay, we'll do 2088 02:02:00.319 --> 02:02:04.159 a psychological work up here. I'm sure, Randy, are you 2089 02:02:04.279 --> 02:02:08.920 still there, yes, yeah, you'll appreciate this. Okay, So let's 2090 02:02:08.920 --> 02:02:11.199 do a psychological work up, work up on this guy. 2091 02:02:12.039 --> 02:02:15.439 So you're saying that he wanted Trump to be aborted 2092 02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:20.359 and his dad bought him a nice hot car, right, 2093 02:02:21.359 --> 02:02:24.960 and so so he goes he's he's in there, he's 2094 02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:27.079 in the thick of it. He ends up rear ending 2095 02:02:27.119 --> 02:02:32.079 somebody and hitting somebody. So instead of stopping to get off, 2096 02:02:32.840 --> 02:02:36.399 you know, So what would a would a right one 2097 02:02:37.319 --> 02:02:40.079 is the left wing reaction, which is to hit reverse 2098 02:02:40.199 --> 02:02:41.840 as fast as you can and get the hell out 2099 02:02:41.840 --> 02:02:45.640 of there, you know, is is that what we're looking 2100 02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:52.159 at here? So was he more concerned about his dad 2101 02:02:52.319 --> 02:02:54.199 taking the car away? 2102 02:02:54.239 --> 02:02:57.439 Maybe he maybe he thought the marchers were marching right 2103 02:02:57.479 --> 02:02:59.920 down the middle of his safe space and he wanted 2104 02:03:00.039 --> 02:03:00.680 them out, you know. 2105 02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:04.680 I don't know who knows, but certainly that's you know, 2106 02:03:04.880 --> 02:03:09.760 interesting reaction because you know, he hit fellow traveler, so 2107 02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:11.560 he would have known it's a fellow traveler, So he 2108 02:03:11.720 --> 02:03:13.720 should have got out and say, hey, I'm sorry, Oh 2109 02:03:13.720 --> 02:03:16.479 my god, what a food bar? Can I do anything 2110 02:03:16.520 --> 02:03:20.479 to help? You know? No, he tries to get out 2111 02:03:20.479 --> 02:03:24.680 of there and escape. Basically hit and run. It's just 2112 02:03:24.920 --> 02:03:27.760 it's just it's just a lousy hit and run. But 2113 02:03:28.600 --> 02:03:32.039 within the context of a protest, right, I mean, that's 2114 02:03:32.079 --> 02:03:34.159 I could look at it that way. Oh yeah, sure, 2115 02:03:34.399 --> 02:03:35.720 hardly a terrorist attack. 2116 02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:39.920 Yeah, probably a drunk driving, drunk driving hit and run, 2117 02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:41.840 you know, because those was he stoned? 2118 02:03:42.640 --> 02:03:43.159 Was he stoned? 2119 02:03:43.199 --> 02:03:45.640 And be surprised? Those antiphos treat this whole thing like 2120 02:03:45.640 --> 02:03:47.760 a party. It's like a party excuse for them. 2121 02:03:47.920 --> 02:03:50.560 Yeah, was he on meth? Was he stoned? Was he 2122 02:03:50.600 --> 02:03:53.600 on What are the what are the pills they take? 2123 02:03:53.720 --> 02:03:56.079 The antidepressant one that that gives you a kind of 2124 02:03:56.119 --> 02:04:01.199 a buzz if you what's it called Paraxa or something. 2125 02:04:01.520 --> 02:04:05.760 Oh, let's see. Oh they like Riddlin is one of them? 2126 02:04:06.159 --> 02:04:09.920 Riddling? Yeah, Ridlin? So maybe he popped a Riddlin. Really 2127 02:04:09.920 --> 02:04:13.600 have a good old time, and uh, I'll bet you, 2128 02:04:13.640 --> 02:04:16.399 I'll bet you who's under the influence of something. Maybe 2129 02:04:16.399 --> 02:04:18.359 that's why he panicked, because he's like, I'm not going 2130 02:04:18.399 --> 02:04:21.520 to get busted for this drive again. I wasn't thinking 2131 02:04:21.520 --> 02:04:23.560 about the person he killed. Who's more thing about getting 2132 02:04:23.560 --> 02:04:24.399 out of there. Right. 2133 02:04:24.600 --> 02:04:28.239 Well, the story is beginning to change, you guys. There's 2134 02:04:28.239 --> 02:04:29.600 some more breaking stuff coming in. 2135 02:04:29.640 --> 02:04:33.079 It's it's it's it's a bit of a reversal of fortune. 2136 02:04:33.079 --> 02:04:37.600 It's turning on its head. Joe Vungaloo, who is who 2137 02:04:37.680 --> 02:04:38.640 is the reported guy? 2138 02:04:38.760 --> 02:04:42.760 He's apparently currently on Facebook denying he was the driver. 2139 02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:47.279 So this is starting to trend and Joe Vungloo, he says, 2140 02:04:47.399 --> 02:04:51.199 he's saying via his Twitter, I'm not the one. Excuse 2141 02:04:51.239 --> 02:04:54.600 of my language. He says, I'm from fucking Michigan, you idiots. 2142 02:04:54.760 --> 02:04:55.760 And apparently he. 2143 02:04:55.760 --> 02:04:56.479 Is from Michigan. 2144 02:04:57.439 --> 02:05:00.760 He is from mich He's from Michigan, and he drives 2145 02:05:01.640 --> 02:05:03.960 an Impala. I don't know if I'm correcting, if I'm 2146 02:05:04.000 --> 02:05:05.760 saying that correctly, an Impala. 2147 02:05:07.079 --> 02:05:12.479 So he's starting to correct people that that it wasn't him, apparently. 2148 02:05:12.960 --> 02:05:15.279 Even in the and is he even in the area. 2149 02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:21.720 That's yeah, yeah, I just think it's it's sad for 2150 02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:25.800 the guy. But funny in another way that that there 2151 02:05:25.960 --> 02:05:28.479 that there's the rush and the guys you know, in 2152 02:05:28.520 --> 02:05:32.159 his backyard barbecuing and people are calling him and saying, hey, 2153 02:05:32.199 --> 02:05:32.720 what did. 2154 02:05:32.600 --> 02:05:36.640 You Yeah, the car is registered, the car is registered 2155 02:05:36.720 --> 02:05:38.880 to his father. A lot of people. They took GV 2156 02:05:39.319 --> 02:05:41.800 one one one one, so quadruple one they went. They 2157 02:05:42.199 --> 02:05:45.239 ran it through all of these national directories. So they've 2158 02:05:45.279 --> 02:05:48.000 been you know, logical, they've been deductive about this. They've 2159 02:05:48.199 --> 02:05:50.720 gone through the methodology. So it seems to be that, yes, 2160 02:05:50.760 --> 02:05:52.640 it was registered to his I think it was his 2161 02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:57.079 fifty one year old father, Jerome Vangaloo, but apparently his 2162 02:05:57.159 --> 02:05:59.640 so called son Joel I's say no, I drive an Impala. 2163 02:05:59.760 --> 02:06:03.199 So so the cases it's all starting to change now. 2164 02:06:03.560 --> 02:06:07.279 I've also noticed we've got Mike Cernovich on this as well. 2165 02:06:07.720 --> 02:06:10.960 I can't see what Mike Cernovich is saying because he 2166 02:06:11.119 --> 02:06:15.279 doesn't like being called out for sharing kind of fake 2167 02:06:15.359 --> 02:06:18.399 news and kind of crappy kind of like headlines and whatnot, 2168 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:20.399 so he kind of blocked me in the past, so 2169 02:06:20.800 --> 02:06:23.920 kind I can't connect to with what Cernovich is saying. 2170 02:06:23.960 --> 02:06:25.840 But if this has come from the. 2171 02:06:25.840 --> 02:06:29.439 Horses and mouth of Sernovich, I'm not surprised that things 2172 02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:33.920 have changed again because Mike Cnovich has a reputation, in 2173 02:06:33.920 --> 02:06:37.479 my opinion, of putting out putting out shit, samaches, and 2174 02:06:37.680 --> 02:06:39.960 we could have been subjected to this yet yet again 2175 02:06:39.960 --> 02:06:42.399 from Mike Cnovic, who thinks he's got he's got a scoop, 2176 02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:44.760 he's got he's got the hardest lead. 2177 02:06:45.239 --> 02:06:46.960 But it just completely obliterates. 2178 02:06:47.800 --> 02:06:53.000 Yeah, yeah, I disavowed all political violence, he says, So yeah, 2179 02:06:53.039 --> 02:06:54.600 maybe he deleted those tweets on that. 2180 02:06:54.600 --> 02:06:57.279 Sure, yet he said on January the twenty fourth, if 2181 02:06:57.319 --> 02:07:00.199 only Trump was aboarded, And people have screenshot it that 2182 02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:03.319 from his from his Facebook. 2183 02:07:03.359 --> 02:07:03.600 So. 2184 02:07:05.000 --> 02:07:07.880 Most most most certainly he is he is anti Trump. 2185 02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:11.039 So he's very much in defense mode right now. But 2186 02:07:11.079 --> 02:07:12.159 I'm just trying to wade. 2187 02:07:11.960 --> 02:07:15.359 Through all of the stage is insinuating that someone is 2188 02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:22.560 running Joe van van Goaloo's Facebook account for him response 2189 02:07:22.640 --> 02:07:25.079 to Internet rumors, I drive a two thousand and nine 2190 02:07:25.159 --> 02:07:28.960 Chevy and Paula not a challenger. F you the Internet, 2191 02:07:29.520 --> 02:07:33.399 and I'm not the one. I'm in Michigan, you fing idiots. 2192 02:07:34.039 --> 02:07:36.680 But it was his father's vehicle. That's that's what that is. 2193 02:07:36.720 --> 02:07:39.399 That is an affirmative. People have ran that through the directory, 2194 02:07:39.439 --> 02:07:42.680 so they have a solid lead in that case. Who 2195 02:07:42.760 --> 02:07:45.159 was driving that vehicle? Was it him or was it 2196 02:07:45.199 --> 02:07:47.560 his father? Was it stolen? So it brings up a 2197 02:07:47.600 --> 02:07:48.880 couple of things here into the case. 2198 02:07:49.319 --> 02:07:49.920 Yeah, it does. 2199 02:07:51.520 --> 02:07:52.920 It's a bit of a head you know. 2200 02:07:53.079 --> 02:07:57.760 Yeah, interesting, interesting, Well, whatever the case is, it's definitely 2201 02:07:58.199 --> 02:08:02.000 not good to speculate on the on the get go. 2202 02:08:02.159 --> 02:08:04.720 As Salon dot com he's done calling it a terrorist event, 2203 02:08:05.800 --> 02:08:14.800 and so many others on the alt left. So yeah, wow, interesting. 2204 02:08:15.880 --> 02:08:18.880 Well, this one's gonna be interesting to watch unfold as 2205 02:08:18.880 --> 02:08:22.199 the day goes on. Here. That's the question. If that 2206 02:08:22.479 --> 02:08:27.039 was this man's car, his father's car registered to him, 2207 02:08:27.159 --> 02:08:30.439 then who was driving it, who was the person driving it, 2208 02:08:30.600 --> 02:08:32.560 and what is their story? 2209 02:08:33.560 --> 02:08:38.439 Good question, So let's get some facts and well hopefully 2210 02:08:38.479 --> 02:08:40.479 they'll come out. The Guardians run a piece on this, 2211 02:08:41.159 --> 02:08:43.359 and I'm just just scanning this here to see if 2212 02:08:43.399 --> 02:08:47.520 they have anything on the arrest. Someone said someone's in custody. 2213 02:08:47.840 --> 02:08:49.880 I remember seeing that. Did ee see that in the 2214 02:08:50.079 --> 02:08:50.960 news reports or not? 2215 02:08:51.640 --> 02:08:53.840 I did see all I've been seen from the Guardian. 2216 02:08:54.560 --> 02:08:56.199 Yeah, all I've been seen from the Guardian all day, 2217 02:08:56.199 --> 02:08:58.199 pot is not every twenty or thirty minutes or so. 2218 02:08:58.319 --> 02:09:00.199 They just keep on running this whole whitesprem It's just 2219 02:09:00.199 --> 02:09:03.600 an all right thing. They've just been excreting this all 2220 02:09:03.720 --> 02:09:07.279 day to day. It's been the same old crap, right right. 2221 02:09:07.840 --> 02:09:10.239 Well, so you know there's we know there's spin patrick. 2222 02:09:10.520 --> 02:09:14.319 If it's a person on the left, they're gonna say 2223 02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:17.840 Trump triggered him, and if it's a person on the right, 2224 02:09:17.840 --> 02:09:22.720 they're gonna say Trump embolded him. So that's Look, that's 2225 02:09:22.760 --> 02:09:23.640 the subtitle. 2226 02:09:24.239 --> 02:09:26.800 Well, so here's how the Guardian's spinning this. I mean 2227 02:09:26.840 --> 02:09:30.640 they are just like they're the Azvestia of the twenty 2228 02:09:30.640 --> 02:09:33.279 first century, you know, in the West. So they're saying 2229 02:09:33.439 --> 02:09:36.720 police declared an unlawful assembly alert, and a spokesperson for 2230 02:09:36.760 --> 02:09:39.760 the four said the Virginia National Guard was called to 2231 02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:42.920 closely monitored the situation, will be able to rapidly respond 2232 02:09:42.960 --> 02:09:47.520 provide additional assistance if needed. What unlawful assembly? But the 2233 02:09:49.520 --> 02:09:52.920 demonstration it wasn't a protest, it was a demonstration, the 2234 02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:56.720 initial one. They had a permit, right according to Andy Anyway, 2235 02:09:57.760 --> 02:09:59.840 they had a permit and it was recognized by the 2236 02:10:00.119 --> 02:10:03.479 c LU. So what So what they're saying the Guardians 2237 02:10:03.520 --> 02:10:08.159 reporting the unlawful assembly is Antifa, but they're not saying 2238 02:10:08.199 --> 02:10:11.439 Antifa in the article there's there's stating a fact, which 2239 02:10:11.479 --> 02:10:14.319 is the police have declared an unlawful assembly alert, but 2240 02:10:14.399 --> 02:10:18.199 they're not saying who is the unlawful assembler. And this 2241 02:10:18.399 --> 02:10:22.199 is how the media works. It is just amazing how 2242 02:10:22.239 --> 02:10:24.880 they spin things. Unbelievable. 2243 02:10:25.560 --> 02:10:28.000 Yeah, that's a big miss on on their. 2244 02:10:27.920 --> 02:10:31.840 Part, huge, huge, I'll drop I'll drop this article in 2245 02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:36.079 the chat box here. I mean, you see this all 2246 02:10:36.239 --> 02:10:40.760 the time, so they're clearly taking their spinning aside and God, 2247 02:10:40.800 --> 02:10:44.800 and they call us fake news, unbelievable. You know, we're 2248 02:10:44.800 --> 02:10:49.760 getting hacked by Google, you know, I'm sorry, hacked our 2249 02:10:49.800 --> 02:10:54.720 search our search engine, uh, getting hacked off by Google 2250 02:10:55.960 --> 02:10:58.359 and buried. And then they're allowed to put this stuff 2251 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:01.359 out and this is like, you know, totally okay, and 2252 02:11:01.359 --> 02:11:04.600 it's completely misleading. This report. 2253 02:11:05.239 --> 02:11:09.319 Yeah, it's amazing. The big giant headline at CNN dot 2254 02:11:09.359 --> 02:11:14.359 com Terror in Virginia, speeding car rams crowd. 2255 02:11:15.479 --> 02:11:17.399 Oh beautiful, send me that link. 2256 02:11:17.439 --> 02:11:21.760 I love that one counter protester killed nineteen hurt at 2257 02:11:21.840 --> 02:11:26.359 white nationalist rally in Charlottesville that was not built as 2258 02:11:26.359 --> 02:11:31.479 a white nationalist rally. It was billed as unite the right. 2259 02:11:32.119 --> 02:11:35.119 So the language here is amazing. 2260 02:11:35.920 --> 02:11:38.920 Yeah, So, I mean, we got propaganda coming out of 2261 02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:43.319 right years these days, big times. It's amazing. 2262 02:11:43.840 --> 02:11:45.039 I don't know if you guys have seen this. 2263 02:11:45.359 --> 02:11:48.359 I've managed to get some access through another means to 2264 02:11:48.399 --> 02:11:51.560 see what cnovic has been tweeting retweeting, for example, and 2265 02:11:51.640 --> 02:11:55.279 there's reports coming in of a helicopter crush in Charlottesville. 2266 02:11:55.319 --> 02:11:56.680 I don't know if you guys want to jump on 2267 02:11:56.720 --> 02:11:59.359 to Twitter and just just to help you confirm that. 2268 02:11:59.479 --> 02:12:01.479 But that's that's what I'm reading now. 2269 02:12:01.560 --> 02:12:03.920 Just trying to cross check that with a with a 2270 02:12:03.920 --> 02:12:05.039 couple of other agencies. 2271 02:12:05.079 --> 02:12:09.399 But that seems that seems pretty serious. 2272 02:12:09.520 --> 02:12:16.479 Oh wow, yeah, yeah, okay, So again, Molly mceue, Molly mceue, 2273 02:12:16.880 --> 02:12:20.840 that's mc k e ws. It's like a Louise Mensch vibe. 2274 02:12:20.840 --> 02:12:24.079 I'm getting here. She just tweets, She just tweeted, we 2275 02:12:24.199 --> 02:12:26.520 need to have a conversation about what is happening today 2276 02:12:26.560 --> 02:12:28.359 in Charlottesville and Russian influence. 2277 02:12:29.560 --> 02:12:37.760 Whoa yeah, Putin was driving the Dodge. I see totally, totally. 2278 02:12:39.319 --> 02:12:43.560 Everyone from the UK news agencies, NBC bookers have been 2279 02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:47.479 tweeting on this. Cnovich retweet the guy who took this 2280 02:12:47.560 --> 02:12:51.319 helicopter video I think the aftermath of the crash. It's 2281 02:12:51.359 --> 02:12:55.319 at Simon Underscore Raider a r R a d e 2282 02:12:55.479 --> 02:12:58.960 R at Simon Underscore Raider. So a lot of the 2283 02:12:59.000 --> 02:13:01.800 news agencies are now asking them about the footage and 2284 02:13:02.079 --> 02:13:04.039 they're you know, they're getting them to the d M 2285 02:13:04.079 --> 02:13:05.800 them about this so. 2286 02:13:08.279 --> 02:13:09.319 Mail online video. 2287 02:13:09.439 --> 02:13:12.880 That's the daily fail in the in the UK, NBC 2288 02:13:13.560 --> 02:13:15.960 they've been Shiman in their booker has been looking for 2289 02:13:15.960 --> 02:13:18.880 more information as well. So there seems to be some 2290 02:13:18.920 --> 02:13:21.600 more movement with with some other stuff that's been happening 2291 02:13:21.640 --> 02:13:23.199 in Charlott's for as we as we. 2292 02:13:23.159 --> 02:13:27.520 Speak, Louise mench she is what she got to say. 2293 02:13:27.680 --> 02:13:29.199 It was it was Russian agents. 2294 02:13:29.520 --> 02:13:32.560 I mean she she's probably blaming this this young kid 2295 02:13:32.560 --> 02:13:34.680 has been a being a putin bot or or something 2296 02:13:34.720 --> 02:13:35.119 like that. 2297 02:13:35.399 --> 02:13:38.199 Wow, God amazing. And then you know, look at Artie 2298 02:13:38.279 --> 02:13:43.279 America's coverage on this. It's completely like on the extreme left, 2299 02:13:43.560 --> 02:13:46.439 you know, the extreme left, totally anti Trump. 2300 02:13:47.279 --> 02:13:55.039 So how's Russia? You know, yeah, Russia and the all 2301 02:13:55.079 --> 02:13:57.920 this it's just I don't know, man, They're just throwing 2302 02:13:57.960 --> 02:14:00.720 everything at it. It's like, oh, something bad and let's 2303 02:14:00.760 --> 02:14:04.439 take everything we possibly have about Trump and the right 2304 02:14:04.479 --> 02:14:06.199 and just throw it all at the wall and see 2305 02:14:06.199 --> 02:14:08.520 what sticks until the story actually comes out. 2306 02:14:08.600 --> 02:14:10.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2307 02:14:10.560 --> 02:14:12.079 I'm kind of not liking Mike at the moment. 2308 02:14:12.119 --> 02:14:13.600 I think I'm going to switch off him because he 2309 02:14:13.640 --> 02:14:15.760 said forty seven minutes ago that the best journalist and 2310 02:14:15.800 --> 02:14:17.880 today wasn't from the mainstream, it was from people like 2311 02:14:17.920 --> 02:14:22.000 Faith Goldie and even BuzzFeed to Blaker's doesn't. So I 2312 02:14:22.039 --> 02:14:23.439 think I'm going to switch them off for a while 2313 02:14:23.439 --> 02:14:25.920 because I certainly don't like Faith Goldie, who was one 2314 02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:29.479 of Ezra Levant's finest along with Gavin McGuinness. 2315 02:14:29.159 --> 02:14:31.640 At all. So it's Goldie. 2316 02:14:32.079 --> 02:14:34.319 Sorry, Mike, it's good night. 2317 02:14:35.199 --> 02:14:39.000 Hey. Speaking of did you guys see the interview with 2318 02:14:39.319 --> 02:14:43.560 Jordan Peterson and James Moore is that his name? 2319 02:14:43.680 --> 02:14:43.960 Yes? 2320 02:14:44.079 --> 02:14:50.560 Yes, yes, it's really good and I mean excellent conversation, 2321 02:14:50.880 --> 02:14:53.880 you know, and it's a total poll or opposite of 2322 02:14:53.920 --> 02:14:56.760 that stuff on Maull and you whatever the hell's name 2323 02:14:56.840 --> 02:15:02.239 is had the Google guy on and basically used it 2324 02:15:02.279 --> 02:15:05.359 as an excuse to talk about himself and his views 2325 02:15:05.439 --> 02:15:09.119 for like a whole hour practically, and you know, on 2326 02:15:09.159 --> 02:15:12.760 a total ego trip loves the sound of his own voice. 2327 02:15:12.920 --> 02:15:16.640 Stefan does. And then I watched Jordan Peterson and it was, 2328 02:15:17.520 --> 02:15:22.239 you know, Google guy didn't talk too much, but it 2329 02:15:22.279 --> 02:15:24.880 was a really really good conversation. I mean it was 2330 02:15:24.920 --> 02:15:29.359 like you I learned something, yeah, you know, And I 2331 02:15:29.399 --> 02:15:32.760 was very impressed with Jordan Peterson, very I mean amazing. 2332 02:15:33.760 --> 02:15:38.000 Yeah, he's a great guy. Yeah, Clinical clinical professor of psychology. 2333 02:15:38.039 --> 02:15:40.039 He's been the guy who's been very active against Bill 2334 02:15:40.079 --> 02:15:43.279 C sixteen, the gender pronoun focus in. 2335 02:15:45.239 --> 02:15:48.279 Canada. He's a very very interesting guy to watch. 2336 02:15:48.399 --> 02:15:51.560 He speaks a lot of sense and his YouTube videos 2337 02:15:51.560 --> 02:15:52.279 are fantastic. 2338 02:15:52.359 --> 02:15:55.279 He's got a huge Patreon following. 2339 02:15:55.319 --> 02:15:57.520 I mean, there are people out there that're donating somewhere 2340 02:15:57.520 --> 02:16:00.239 in the regional between fifty to sixty thousand dollars a 2341 02:16:00.399 --> 02:16:03.239 month via Patreon for this guy to do. You know, 2342 02:16:03.279 --> 02:16:05.800 a lot of seemingly great work out there. So I 2343 02:16:05.880 --> 02:16:07.800 think this is just the beginning for Jordan Peterson. I 2344 02:16:07.880 --> 02:16:10.079 think he's he's going to be floating more in the 2345 02:16:10.079 --> 02:16:12.720 mainstream in the weeks and months to come with with 2346 02:16:12.760 --> 02:16:13.680 the plans that he's got. 2347 02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:18.479 Yeah, but he's not like the theo's rebel media types. 2348 02:16:18.680 --> 02:16:20.760 He's sort of he's real. 2349 02:16:21.560 --> 02:16:23.119 But they're adopting them part. That's the thing. 2350 02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:25.680 I mean, you have the likes of you know, Tommy Robinson, 2351 02:16:25.800 --> 02:16:28.279 you know God Sad and all these other people who 2352 02:16:28.319 --> 02:16:32.079 are looking to get someone as credible as as Jordan 2353 02:16:32.120 --> 02:16:36.840 Peterson and take them into this rebel media as relevance fold, 2354 02:16:36.959 --> 02:16:37.879 which I don't like. 2355 02:16:38.559 --> 02:16:40.319 Yeah, it's that's that's not cool. 2356 02:16:41.040 --> 02:16:43.799 That's to discredit you. That's that's the only reason they 2357 02:16:43.879 --> 02:16:47.239 do that. And those that's why those outlets exist as 2358 02:16:47.239 --> 02:16:50.360 well as is honey pot people that they can bring 2359 02:16:50.399 --> 02:16:52.559 in and then just basically they've got them and at 2360 02:16:52.559 --> 02:16:55.799 that point no one will take them seriously again, So 2361 02:16:56.200 --> 02:16:59.799 that's why they're there. They exist on that basis, you know, 2362 02:17:00.440 --> 02:17:01.319 clearly ridiculous. 2363 02:17:01.399 --> 02:17:04.760 Well, hopefully Jordan Peterson will will break out of that 2364 02:17:04.840 --> 02:17:08.040 whole cycle. It seems like he's got enough organic support 2365 02:17:08.280 --> 02:17:11.639 just on his own to not need those those types 2366 02:17:11.680 --> 02:17:15.000 of people backing him. So let's hope that he sticks 2367 02:17:15.040 --> 02:17:17.440 with that, because he really is a great speaker, you know, 2368 02:17:17.520 --> 02:17:21.840 And I thought it was so awesome the first time 2369 02:17:22.200 --> 02:17:26.040 I saw him lay out his how to have Antifa 2370 02:17:26.239 --> 02:17:29.600 not show up at your speaking engagement or your rally, 2371 02:17:30.440 --> 02:17:33.959 so simple he said, schedule it at eight am or 2372 02:17:34.079 --> 02:17:36.520 nine am. They won't even be out of bed yet. 2373 02:17:38.440 --> 02:17:43.399 Who said that? Oh brilliant? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2374 02:17:43.239 --> 02:17:46.879 It's just some of the he's just so common sense, 2375 02:17:46.959 --> 02:17:49.959 you know. I really like, I really like hearing him 2376 02:17:50.000 --> 02:17:52.559 so far, and I think I think when he was 2377 02:17:52.559 --> 02:17:56.559 on Rogan's podcast that really probably just launched him into 2378 02:17:57.559 --> 02:18:00.239 a whole new sphere of listeners there too, you know, 2379 02:18:00.280 --> 02:18:03.159 because Rogan has got such a huge, huge audience for 2380 02:18:03.200 --> 02:18:06.440 his podcast and it seemed to really pick up for 2381 02:18:07.000 --> 02:18:12.959 Jordan after that, right, yeah, yeah, stark difference there though, 2382 02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:16.120 between his his chat and molin New's chat. 2383 02:18:16.479 --> 02:18:18.239 Oh gosh, night and day. 2384 02:18:18.399 --> 02:18:20.600 I couldn't even make it through an hour of molon 2385 02:18:20.719 --> 02:18:22.840 you're talking to that guy. As interested as I was 2386 02:18:22.959 --> 02:18:24.639 in James's. 2387 02:18:24.239 --> 02:18:28.879 Story, Molineu comes off is very stuck up and like 2388 02:18:29.040 --> 02:18:33.280 some sort of intellectual elite, and people call him a philosopher, 2389 02:18:33.879 --> 02:18:37.000 and I'm like, what is he published in philosophy? Has 2390 02:18:37.040 --> 02:18:39.719 he written any does he have any peer reviewed papers? 2391 02:18:39.719 --> 02:18:43.520 Does he have any philosophy books? Does he have a book? 2392 02:18:43.559 --> 02:18:43.959 I don't know. 2393 02:18:44.159 --> 02:18:46.920 Maybe he does, but I think he's got one coming out. Actually, 2394 02:18:47.120 --> 02:18:49.680 I think there's something on route away here. 2395 02:18:50.120 --> 02:18:52.440 I mean, it's it's pointless for someone like that even 2396 02:18:52.440 --> 02:18:54.079 to put out a book because all they do is 2397 02:18:54.120 --> 02:18:56.760 sit there and flap their gums on YouTube for like 2398 02:18:56.840 --> 02:18:59.000 ten years, and who would want to buy a book 2399 02:18:59.040 --> 02:19:02.120 from them? You know, because I've just said just about 2400 02:19:02.159 --> 02:19:05.760 anything that can possibly be set, uh, you know, it's 2401 02:19:05.799 --> 02:19:12.719 nothing it's ridiculous. You know, this is a ridiculous character. Really, 2402 02:19:13.399 --> 02:19:18.239 they're just it's this, this YouTube type pundit that that's 2403 02:19:18.280 --> 02:19:20.319 all they do is just talk talk talk. You know. 2404 02:19:21.600 --> 02:19:24.920 He hasn't written any serious papers or position papers on 2405 02:19:25.399 --> 02:19:27.879 anything that I that I've seen or know of. He's 2406 02:19:27.879 --> 02:19:30.680 so he's just known for his YouTube videos, which is 2407 02:19:30.680 --> 02:19:33.799 basically looking at a screen and reading off PowerPoint presentations, 2408 02:19:33.840 --> 02:19:36.440 which is what he did for years. I think he's 2409 02:19:36.440 --> 02:19:38.559 starting to add lib now because people have caught onto 2410 02:19:38.600 --> 02:19:40.840 it and sort of complaining about it, So he's starting 2411 02:19:40.879 --> 02:19:44.200 to actually talk now. But I mean, after how many 2412 02:19:44.319 --> 02:19:47.879 years of reading off his cue cards, watching his eyeballs 2413 02:19:47.879 --> 02:19:50.479 go from left to right all his videos, it's ridiculous. 2414 02:19:51.040 --> 02:19:53.159 I'm probably just quite a skilled I'm. 2415 02:19:53.040 --> 02:19:56.000 So smart, you know, I'm so any who can't do 2416 02:19:56.079 --> 02:19:59.200 that bring up some wikied copy and paste some Wikipedia 2417 02:19:59.280 --> 02:20:01.879 stuff and then put into an order, and then you're 2418 02:20:01.920 --> 02:20:06.079 an expert on bitcoin or the migrant crisis or whatever 2419 02:20:06.239 --> 02:20:10.559 reading other people's work. Basically, it's like, wow, fantastic, you're 2420 02:20:10.559 --> 02:20:11.120 so smart. 2421 02:20:13.440 --> 02:20:15.600 Yeah, great, exactly. 2422 02:20:15.719 --> 02:20:15.920 Yeah. 2423 02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:17.840 Well, I think he's probably heard us call him out 2424 02:20:17.879 --> 02:20:20.280 on that a few times because I've noticed the same. 2425 02:20:20.399 --> 02:20:23.559 Now he's trying to do more impromptu stuff, more interviews, 2426 02:20:23.559 --> 02:20:27.159 stuff like that, and I don't know that that. I 2427 02:20:27.319 --> 02:20:30.200 just couldn't even make it through that one with James. 2428 02:20:30.879 --> 02:20:33.959 Yeah, So what was the last we heard on Andy 2429 02:20:34.159 --> 02:20:37.399 or what I missed that part? Oh, he's apparently in 2430 02:20:37.479 --> 02:20:39.479 the eye of the storm. Huh. 2431 02:20:39.479 --> 02:20:42.079 He made it out, He weathered the storm, he made 2432 02:20:42.120 --> 02:20:46.360 it out. He was he was there to be pushed 2433 02:20:46.360 --> 02:20:50.200 around by the riot police, told to disperse, told that 2434 02:20:50.360 --> 02:20:56.200 his and his compadre's rally was unlawful, that they had 2435 02:20:56.239 --> 02:21:00.200 to break up, and he even received some tear gas 2436 02:21:00.280 --> 02:21:02.959 and a couple of a little bit of man handling 2437 02:21:03.200 --> 02:21:06.520 from some of the riot police. There. There's some great 2438 02:21:06.520 --> 02:21:08.440 footage of it. He had his uh, his cell phone 2439 02:21:08.479 --> 02:21:11.799 running the whole time, so up on his YouTube page. Uh, 2440 02:21:12.120 --> 02:21:14.399 anybody can go check that out. I recommend you do. 2441 02:21:15.040 --> 02:21:17.959 It's very interesting. You see Andy versus the police state 2442 02:21:18.280 --> 02:21:21.239 boiler room zone Andy Nowicki versus. 2443 02:21:21.120 --> 02:21:23.040 Yeah, he's writing in the thick of it, new Wicky 2444 02:21:23.200 --> 02:21:26.600 was Newicky was locking arms with Spencer down there and 2445 02:21:27.000 --> 02:21:31.120 imagine that the umpire police coming. Yeah, that's mental. 2446 02:21:31.399 --> 02:21:33.520 Yeahl's finest. 2447 02:21:34.040 --> 02:21:37.280 I've never heard Andy raise his voice like that before, 2448 02:21:37.440 --> 02:21:40.239 so he had his war face on for sure today. 2449 02:21:40.719 --> 02:21:44.680 Yeah, seriously, that was Yeah. I haven't looked at all 2450 02:21:44.680 --> 02:21:47.799 his videos yet, but I'll try to. Maybe we'll repost 2451 02:21:47.840 --> 02:21:50.760 some of those some new wiki action definitely. 2452 02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:53.680 Yeah, they're they're they're ripe for it. There, there's some 2453 02:21:53.719 --> 02:21:54.639 good short videos. 2454 02:21:54.680 --> 02:21:56.440 And let's get him on the Sunday Wire tomorrow. 2455 02:21:56.639 --> 02:21:57.920 Okay, yeah, sounds good. 2456 02:21:58.680 --> 02:22:03.559 I'll get a play by play, let's find out what 2457 02:22:03.680 --> 02:22:04.520 really happened. 2458 02:22:05.959 --> 02:22:09.159 Absolutely all right, you guys, well funks all, I know 2459 02:22:09.200 --> 02:22:11.000 you got to get out of here, man. So thanks 2460 02:22:11.000 --> 02:22:12.079 for joining us today. 2461 02:22:13.120 --> 02:22:14.760 No, it's good. It was great you guys. It's been 2462 02:22:14.799 --> 02:22:16.159 a great round table chating. 2463 02:22:16.239 --> 02:22:18.760 Thanks once again to Patrick for bring some great points 2464 02:22:19.120 --> 02:22:21.680 via the RT live feed and for coming on with us. 2465 02:22:21.920 --> 02:22:26.840 It was very sensed, very very based, and much appreciated. 2466 02:22:26.840 --> 02:22:29.319 And what I certainly took away from you guys is that, yeah, 2467 02:22:29.319 --> 02:22:34.440 it's very important to stay based and use a little 2468 02:22:34.479 --> 02:22:37.079 bit more skepticism in these particular cases and let the 2469 02:22:37.280 --> 02:22:41.280 dust settle and then start to put things back together 2470 02:22:41.440 --> 02:22:44.079 bit by bit by bit. And as we've seen, we 2471 02:22:44.719 --> 02:22:47.239 think we've got a lead, we've got a scoop, we've 2472 02:22:47.319 --> 02:22:49.600 got something that we're willing to bite down on. 2473 02:22:49.680 --> 02:22:52.559 But then it changes and it just blows in your face. 2474 02:22:52.639 --> 02:22:56.200 So that's that's the current state of affairs of what's 2475 02:22:56.200 --> 02:22:57.639 happening right. 2476 02:22:57.680 --> 02:22:57.840 Hey. 2477 02:22:57.959 --> 02:23:01.879 Also, if you find out any more on this perpetrator, 2478 02:23:02.360 --> 02:23:05.239 you're welcome to also come on and join us tomorrow 2479 02:23:05.680 --> 02:23:09.120 Funk Soul on the Sunday Wire. We can sure thing, Yeah, 2480 02:23:09.200 --> 02:23:10.040 flesh this out. 2481 02:23:10.879 --> 02:23:14.360 Yeah, sure thing. Yeah, I'll be in touch. 2482 02:23:14.399 --> 02:23:17.440 If it's if it's something that is not that it 2483 02:23:17.520 --> 02:23:20.120 checks out, you know, fight based, if it's if it's 2484 02:23:20.159 --> 02:23:22.040 if it's rock solid and I can bite myself up 2485 02:23:22.040 --> 02:23:23.559 at this all I'll get in consent and we can 2486 02:23:23.600 --> 02:23:24.639 we can roll that out of the show. 2487 02:23:24.680 --> 02:23:25.799 That'll be that'd be great stuff. 2488 02:23:25.879 --> 02:23:28.559 Yeah, yeah, awesome, awesome, all. 2489 02:23:28.600 --> 02:23:32.799 Right, look forward to good Okay, great, so folks all, 2490 02:23:32.840 --> 02:23:35.799 thanks for being here once again, Randy Jay, You got 2491 02:23:35.840 --> 02:23:38.840 any any final thoughts on this before we cut the stream. 2492 02:23:39.040 --> 02:23:43.280 Well, I'll add to one of Patrick's comments on on 2493 02:23:43.520 --> 02:23:47.120 RT earlier, and that is I look out my my 2494 02:23:47.239 --> 02:23:52.120 window here in California, and I see a couple of 2495 02:23:52.239 --> 02:23:56.000 kids riding a bike and in the distance it looks 2496 02:23:56.040 --> 02:23:58.280 like just two people talking in front of a car, 2497 02:23:58.440 --> 02:24:04.360 not fighting. No, no buildings burning. Yeah, that's not the 2498 02:24:04.440 --> 02:24:07.040 United States at large. It's just where all the cameras 2499 02:24:07.079 --> 02:24:09.959 are at to make it, you know, to sort of 2500 02:24:10.520 --> 02:24:16.399 get on film these organizers that clashed, one with the permit, 2501 02:24:16.600 --> 02:24:18.840 one group with a permit, and the other the other 2502 02:24:18.920 --> 02:24:19.799 one via. 2503 02:24:21.239 --> 02:24:22.319 Hashtag campaign. 2504 02:24:22.600 --> 02:24:28.280 So all is well and good in the Inland Empire. Yes, yep, 2505 02:24:28.639 --> 02:24:32.000 there's no riots, no no one looting or burning anything. 2506 02:24:32.719 --> 02:24:36.079 Race is getting along. I mean, it's it's it's almost 2507 02:24:36.239 --> 02:24:37.000 a utopia. 2508 02:24:39.680 --> 02:24:42.159 Nice. It's good to hear. It's good to hear. It's 2509 02:24:42.159 --> 02:24:42.840 not all that bad. 2510 02:24:43.159 --> 02:24:47.559 All right, Thanks Randy, j Okay, Patrick, anything else you 2511 02:24:47.639 --> 02:24:49.600 want to cover before we cut the stream here, I'll 2512 02:24:49.600 --> 02:24:52.639 make sure and let everybody know tonight on hash and 2513 02:24:52.680 --> 02:24:55.479 session to join us for Sunday Wire tomorrow, of course, 2514 02:24:55.479 --> 02:24:58.319 which will be at nine a m. P Civic eleventh 2515 02:24:58.360 --> 02:25:03.040 Central noon Eastern absolutely five pm across the pond. 2516 02:25:04.079 --> 02:25:05.719 You got it. Let's do it, all. 2517 02:25:05.680 --> 02:25:10.040 Right, okay, great, looking forward to continuing this coverage tomorrow 2518 02:25:10.239 --> 02:25:13.760 on the Sunday Wire with you, and thanks for jumping 2519 02:25:13.760 --> 02:25:15.520 on the call. With us. Really appreciate your input. 2520 02:25:15.959 --> 02:25:19.719 Yeah, and is Randy still there? Yes, Hey, if you 2521 02:25:19.719 --> 02:25:22.680 want to talk North Korea, I just put a major 2522 02:25:22.760 --> 02:25:27.159 piece up that's been republished by Ron Paul on North Korea. 2523 02:25:27.440 --> 02:25:30.239 It's up at twenty first century war dot com. And 2524 02:25:31.440 --> 02:25:35.639 if you want to come and chat about North Korea tomorrow, 2525 02:25:36.239 --> 02:25:39.120 we're definitely going to talk about that because that's also important. 2526 02:25:39.559 --> 02:25:40.719 Okay, you got it. 2527 02:25:41.079 --> 02:25:43.360 Okay, we'll work it out, work out the times with 2528 02:25:43.600 --> 02:25:46.239 Sure and stuff and we'll let you know. But yeah, 2529 02:25:46.239 --> 02:25:48.319 that would be cool. Yeah, it's just some big, big 2530 02:25:48.360 --> 02:25:49.600 stuff going on with that. 2531 02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:52.920 Good deal sounds good, So looking forward to Sunday Wire tomorrow. 2532 02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:54.959 Everybody be sure and join us for the live show, 2533 02:25:55.000 --> 02:25:56.879 and if you're unable to, you can of course pick 2534 02:25:56.879 --> 02:26:01.799 it up on podcast at iTunes, at iHeartRadio, at Sprinker 2535 02:26:01.840 --> 02:26:05.079 dot com, Alternate Current Radio dot com, and twenty first 2536 02:26:05.079 --> 02:26:07.600 Century Wire dot com. Of course. All right, this is 2537 02:26:07.600 --> 02:26:11.159 Hesher for Boiler Room. We are signing out. 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We'll see 2549 02:26:45.959 --> 02:26:48.680 you later. You're listening to Alternate Current Radio, probably sent. 2550 02:26:48.680 --> 02:26:51.399 Here so that we put them in our jails, because 2551 02:26:51.479 --> 02:26:53.200 to put them in our jails, they didn't pay the 2552 02:26:53.239 --> 02:26:56.479 electric bill to put them. Oh I like that much 2553 02:26:56.600 --> 02:27:07.760 much better. No, get those lights so off. Oh oh 2554 02:27:07.799 --> 02:27:12.399 that's so much better. Those lights were brutal. Turn them off. 2555 02:27:12.440 --> 02:27:14.040 They're too they're too bright. 2556 02:27:14.280 --> 02:27:17.280 Turn them off, turn them all