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<v Speaker 1>Go right out to the ka Commas Sparrell hotline and

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<v Speaker 1>bring on our guy Ryan Michael at the Ryan Michael

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, Ran, how are you doing this evening?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing well?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you? I?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We're following up a four touchdown, no interception slaughter of

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Falcons.

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<v Speaker 3>Hyper Bo Nix's has never been higher.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you had him as the second highest ranked

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback on your board before the draft, and if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to take a victory lap, I'm certainly here for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Football is not gonna spike itself. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>question is are you a little bo curious about Bo

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<v Speaker 1>being the franchise quarterback for the Denver Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as I would love to spike that football

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<v Speaker 2>and pat myself on the back, the reality is I

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<v Speaker 2>have to approach this as an analyst, which means I

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<v Speaker 2>have to do so objectively, and there's a difference between

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<v Speaker 2>what I want to be true, what may be true,

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<v Speaker 2>and what may eventually be true. So certainly it's trending

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<v Speaker 2>far closer to a yes than a Now, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>an impressive, really nine game run. Now for two rough

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<v Speaker 2>games to start off the season. You know, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be AFC Rookie of the Week back to back weeks

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<v Speaker 2>after being you know, Offensive Rookie of the Month in October.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been tearing up the stat sheets in that in

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<v Speaker 2>that nine game run lated one hundred and eighty eight

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and eighty so that sixty seven percent of

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<v Speaker 2>his passes over two thousand total yards, eighteen total touchdowns

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<v Speaker 2>to only one turnover, that no loss fumbles all year.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, bo Nix is as hot as I said

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<v Speaker 2>during the offseason, perhaps even more so. I still think

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<v Speaker 2>we have to pump the brakes a little bit and

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<v Speaker 2>we still need a little bit of a bigger sample size.

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<v Speaker 2>PERFOREM ready to any of.

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<v Speaker 3>The franchise quarterback Well what you calling bo hot like

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<v Speaker 3>you did? Maybe you are a little bow curious there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, give it all the positives and particularly

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<v Speaker 1>both dominance over the last two weeks. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's entered the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year discussion

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<v Speaker 1>there with Jayden Daniels.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've entered the discussion, and you know, certainly

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<v Speaker 2>eleven games into the season, I would still say that

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<v Speaker 2>Jayden Daniels is the clear favorite. Statistically by almost every measure,

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<v Speaker 2>whether we're talking completion percentage, passing, yard yards per drop back,

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<v Speaker 2>yards per attempt, touchdown passes he has fewer, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's still a low interception percentage like bow higher passer

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<v Speaker 2>I think by nearly ten points, and a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more efficient per carry on the ground. They both have

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<v Speaker 2>four lesson touchdowns. It's really those two games at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the year then that I think is going

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<v Speaker 2>to hold Gough Nicks out of eventually winning the award.

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe it's conceivable that by the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, even if Daniels is named NFL Offensive with

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<v Speaker 2>You of the Year, and it would be deservedly so,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's possible that you could make an argument

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<v Speaker 2>for Bo having had the more impressive season. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>really all we can talk about eleven games in. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>given the disparity between the two plane situations, and given

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<v Speaker 2>just how well he's been playing over the last nine

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<v Speaker 2>and just how high a feeling has been, especially over

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<v Speaker 2>the last two weeks, I like the way Bo's playing

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<v Speaker 2>more than the way that Jay Daniels is playing. In

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<v Speaker 2>terms of altogether big picture, is he going to end

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<v Speaker 2>up winning the award. It's certainly a discussion now, especially

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<v Speaker 2>after last week, but Jaydan Daniels is still still ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of him by a few inches.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to Ryan Michael at the Ryan Michael on Twitter right,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as all of us want instant gratification, and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly the Broncos are extra thirsty for quarterback gratification, they

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<v Speaker 1>post Peyton Manning era. Would you rather have a young

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback dominate as a rookie similar to st J Stroud

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<v Speaker 1>step back this year, or as a sophomore like Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>Manning who started off poorly but then dominated.

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<v Speaker 3>From basically your two on, it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good question, and I think the what you framed it

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much answers it.

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<v Speaker 3>For me.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather have given a choice see dominance in

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback sophomore season, because as we saw with CJ. Stroud,

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<v Speaker 2>last year, statistically, whether we're talking analytics, mart's run, general efficiency,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a top three NFL quarterback as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>He produced arguably the greatest rookie passing seaman we've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>If you adjusted for era there are a number of

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<v Speaker 2>other quarterbacks that enter the discussion. I think that something

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<v Speaker 2>that people don't necessarily account for is just how much

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<v Speaker 2>of an impact it has when defensive coaches have more

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<v Speaker 2>All twenty two film to study. So we've seen CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Scroud certainly take a step back from being a top

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<v Speaker 2>three overall NFL quarterback, and he's about average, below average

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<v Speaker 2>by some metrics, slightly above average by others. So I

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<v Speaker 2>would rather see what we saw out of Peyton Manning

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<v Speaker 2>the second year. I can speak from my own experience

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<v Speaker 2>having coached in Europe, having coached in the IFL. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the exact same level, certainly, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>always been a tremendous disadvantage for me as a defensive

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<v Speaker 2>assistant to not have coaches film to study on a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback who's coming up that week. So it's certainly at

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL level, I think it's even more inful. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very happy to see Bonnick's playing so well so early,

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<v Speaker 2>but as we've seen with CJ. Stroud, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>pump the brakes a little bit because he does have

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<v Speaker 2>the advantage of the coaches don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>All twenty two come to study.

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<v Speaker 3>Just said, well, yeah, I think that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've seen, you know, as coaches get an

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<v Speaker 1>off season and all that tape, yere's where the tape

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<v Speaker 1>and an off season of prep for a guide, it

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly they've got to adjust encounter a judge. We look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing what BO does as far as that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff goes. What are your projections for BO and the

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<v Speaker 1>offense in the coming weeks and really the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm certainly optimistic about the upcoming schedule. Right games

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<v Speaker 2>against the Raiders and against Cleveland are very very winnable.

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<v Speaker 2>The Colts game is a very very winnable game. The

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<v Speaker 2>Chargers and Chiefs down the stretch are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult. And even though the Dangles don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>strong win loss record, obviously Joe Burrow's playing the position

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<v Speaker 2>at an elite level. So that game against Cincinnati is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a tremendous challenge. If we can win

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<v Speaker 2>nine games, then I would consider that an overachievement, and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly believe the over under was five and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>so we've already surpassed that. But you can't take any

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<v Speaker 2>wings for granted. You know, the schedule looks favorable over

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<v Speaker 2>the next three games, but we've forgot to put in

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<v Speaker 1>Talking with Ryan Michael at the Ryan Michael on Twitter, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I talked a little bit earlier and I

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted out I saw you've since dovetailed off that with

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<v Speaker 1>some numbers about this growing sentiment on social media from

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers fans as they try to talk themselves

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<v Speaker 1>out of Kyle Shanahan.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know the entire league.

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<v Speaker 1>Is trying to try and adopt his offense, say, went

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<v Speaker 1>coaches off his staff, and you got these spoiled forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine Ers fans out here, like, you know what, the

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<v Speaker 1>grass is greener. I forget the Jim Thomsulla, Chip Kelly Era,

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<v Speaker 1>forget by Mike Singletary, the Mike Nolan Arris, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, forget all that the grass is greener. We can

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<v Speaker 3>get somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Better than the guy the entire league wants right now

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<v Speaker 1>by firing him.

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<v Speaker 3>As I look at the the just the ludicrous.

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<v Speaker 1>Nature of this forty nine Ers fans trying to talk

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<v Speaker 1>themselves out of Kyle Shanahan by claiming you can't win.

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<v Speaker 3>The big one. Where where do we come down on that?

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<v Speaker 1>And where do we come down on how ridiculous it

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<v Speaker 1>would be for the Niners to fire Kyle Shanahan Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the most mind numbing football takes that I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>all people. It might be the absolute worse. And Lord knows,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of bad ones out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Sanahan is somebody who is you know, two fourth

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<v Speaker 2>quarter slash overtime performances away. Had those games gone the

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<v Speaker 2>other way in San Francisco, and certainly if things went

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<v Speaker 2>different for Atlanta in twenty sixteen, we'd be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>him as a future Hall of Famer. So people have

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<v Speaker 2>to remember he inherited a two win forty nine er team.

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<v Speaker 2>He's led them to win totals of thirteen, thirteen, twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>and ten. He got Hall of Fame caliber efficiency out

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<v Speaker 2>of Jimmy Garoppolo, and Jimmy Garoppolo is a fine quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>but there were stretches of time where he was producing

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<v Speaker 2>efficiency marks that were comparable to Patrick Mahomes, Andrew Breese

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<v Speaker 2>and Brock Purty enters the conversation right seventh round quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>He led the NFL in passer rating last year. He

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<v Speaker 2>led the NFL and the adjusted net yards for attend

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<v Speaker 2>by a country mile nine point zero one. Second place

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<v Speaker 2>is seven point four eight. I believe it was tu

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<v Speaker 2>and he set the NFL's all time single season record

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<v Speaker 2>for yards for passing attempt at nine point six, a

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<v Speaker 2>record that was previously held depending on the threshold in

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<v Speaker 2>Shannahand in twenty and sixteen, I believe Matt averaged nine

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<v Speaker 2>point three yards for passing attempts. And yet the Niners

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<v Speaker 2>are five and five, they have the top eight offense

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<v Speaker 2>and average defense. Statistically, it is really what have you

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<v Speaker 2>done for me lately? Kind of world? If we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about firing Kyle Shanagan. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just seems ludicrous to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals to the top that division right now, But

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<v Speaker 1>all the other teams are five and five, one game back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like they're they're really out of it as

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<v Speaker 1>far as any of that goes. And in the NFC,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not really out of it a five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred anyway, it's closed a week of conference.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just found that whole narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, a bit frustrating and laughable as

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<v Speaker 1>you have a fan base who is so spoiled that

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<v Speaker 1>you would sit there. You know what, Kyle Shanahan actually sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>We should go out there and you know, we should

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and get the next Nate Hackett.

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<v Speaker 3>It's uh, you know, it's it's it's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a ludicrous to see what what people will talk

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<v Speaker 1>themselves into. Uh, you talked a little bit instat gratification earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's ludicrous where people talk themselves into talking with

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>Let the Ryan Michael on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking over at the Jacksonville Jaguars, you know they've had

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<v Speaker 1>to start mac Jones lately because the injury to Trevor,

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<v Speaker 1>to Trevor Lawrence, and uh, presumably the coaching staff they're

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<v Speaker 1>about to be fired, front office probably getting cleaned out

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Off the top of your head and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>putting you on the spot a little bit here, but

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<v Speaker 1>what what coaching staff? What coach would you would you

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<v Speaker 1>pair with Trevor Lawrence to try to get the most

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really really difficult question because you have to

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<v Speaker 2>ask yourself who would want to take over that position

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<v Speaker 2>and do ball they've been the losing this franchise in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL since twenty eleven. They've had, I believe eight

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<v Speaker 2>different head coaches if you include the interim head coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>So Ben Johnson is obviously the name that people have

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<v Speaker 2>great fit. Trevor Warren's is the guy that you know

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<v Speaker 2>how high I am on Trevor Lawrence. Some numbers for

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<v Speaker 2>him despite playing in arguably the worst situation in terms

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<v Speaker 2>Before he was shut down due to injury, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see if he comes back, still ranked top ten in

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<v Speaker 2>TOTALQBR adjusted EPA for play, touchdown passes, passing yards, first

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<v Speaker 2>downs passing Trevor Lawrence. You could make the argument and

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<v Speaker 2>it's had the most impressive single season of his career,

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<v Speaker 2>which I know people will laugh at. They'll be very

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<v Speaker 2>dismissive of that. But when you consider the defense ranked

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<v Speaker 2>dead lasting yards per play at the time they shut

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<v Speaker 2>him down dead laugh and passer rating surrendered. To still

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<v Speaker 2>show up and keep the Jags competitive in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those games, I think it's the testament to who

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<v Speaker 2>he is as a quarterback, especially when healthy. So Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson is the name that I'm sure they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be targeting. I don't think there's any easy fix because

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Peterson did a lot of good things, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>his first two years. You look at two nine win

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<v Speaker 2>seasons in Jacksonville, and obviously this year has been a disaster,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's two nine win seasons. Especially twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>he had a one quarter away from the ANFC Championship.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a tough place down there and do well.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because the career of Doug Peterson is fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Instant success followed by it falling apart, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>over the next couple of years. It was the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing in Philadelphia, where you know, he sort of inherited

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<v Speaker 1>everything that Andy Reid did and then you know, got

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<v Speaker 1>him a Super Bowl and then everything just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>fell apart from there, leading to his ouster and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jacksonville, early on, the wins came pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it looked like he might be building

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<v Speaker 1>something there and then the wheels just came off, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I wonder what that's attributed to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets you know, he gets players to rally around

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<v Speaker 1>him early, and then it just wears off. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>something that that he's not changing that everybody's keying in on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what, but it appears that Doug Peterson

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<v Speaker 1>in the second stand has largely mirrored the first and

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<v Speaker 1>without the top end success.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you the play calling has been an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute mess in Drecksonsville this season. It's one of many problems.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, to your point earlier about Kyle Shanahan,

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<v Speaker 2>could you imagine if the San Francisco forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 2>let him go after they finished sixth and ten in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, You know, he comes back with three consecutive

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<v Speaker 2>double digit win season, so they still have a shot

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<v Speaker 2>at doing that this year. Maybe they'll finish the eight

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<v Speaker 2>or nine wins this what have you done formul lately? Culture,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is a problem, and the Jagglars have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more problem. So by no means am I suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>that Doug Peterson is Kyle Shanahan. I think Kyle Shanahan's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the finest coaches of our generation. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>a collaborative team effort and the fact that they never

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<v Speaker 2>sigured out the defensive side of the ball certainly hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>help the situation, because when you have what we have

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<v Speaker 2>here in Broncos Country, a top five, top three defense,

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<v Speaker 2>it really covers up a lot of imperfections on the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive side of the ball. I mean, now we're I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth ranked scoring offense in the NFL and we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the heels of our most impressive offensive performance of

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<v Speaker 2>the season by far. So hats off to Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 2>GIF Sean Payton love this week for sure, but the

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<v Speaker 2>defense has been the core of our success this year,

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<v Speaker 2>for the reason why we're over five hundred. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have that luxury on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the football, it's very, very difficult to keep morale up

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<v Speaker 2>in the locker room that it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking with Royan Michael at the Ryan Michael lest a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of questions here, Ryan, as we hit it back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Denver Broncos. You just got through talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that defense, and what we've seen is that the defense

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<v Speaker 1>for the Broadcos has played lights out and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>getting its flowers for that game against Atlanta because the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put up so many points, but they held

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Falcons to six points. I think that if

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<v Speaker 1>you'd asked before the game if Denver was more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to score thirty four or hold Atlanta to six, I

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<v Speaker 1>think most people would have said Broncos were more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to score thirty four. It was surprisingly effective against it offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's loaded with skill position weapons. But I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>question that I'm sort of circling the drain on here

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<v Speaker 1>is what is the bigger boone to bow Nicks Having

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<v Speaker 1>a defense like that at his back where the pressures

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<v Speaker 1>not on him, or having an offensive line that appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be graded out as the top offensive line in

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<v Speaker 1>football right now to keep him clean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thankfully he doesn't have to choose because he has both, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and those are both testaments to just how successful we

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<v Speaker 2>were during the offseason. It's quarterback's best friend is to

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<v Speaker 2>have protection upfront and to have stability on the defensive

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<v Speaker 2>side of the football. I think back to what Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Sanchez did in the late two thousand and nine twenty

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<v Speaker 2>ten in that run, and certainly Bonix I think was

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<v Speaker 2>a much better quarterback prospect than Sanchez ever was, and

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<v Speaker 2>already a better quarterback than Sanchez ever was. But what

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<v Speaker 2>a benefit it was to a young rookie quarterback to

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<v Speaker 2>step into a situation with the lead defense on the

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<v Speaker 2>other end of the football. So thankfully both has both.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know there are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are impatient complaining about the skill position players look in

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<v Speaker 2>salary cap, how we're not going to have everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>to have arguably the best offensive line the football, arguably

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive football, and arguably the best rookie quarterback in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL tinkling in a good spot.

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to agree with you. I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 3>our Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>Week where we're probably going to be coming away with

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<v Speaker 1>another dub. We have a lot of talk about next week. Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>always appreciate you dropping by Budd My pleasure absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Michael let the Ryan Michael on Twitter