Speaker 1: They is a word, so like I don't need to
Speaker 1: always say they, like it's just a weird It's like
Speaker 1: this is one of these psychology tactics who are like
Speaker 1: who is they? Who is they?
Speaker 2: And it's like that sounds like you're saying Jews.
Speaker 3: Does the word they mean Jews when you're talking about Jews.
Speaker 1: Yes, but if I'm not talking about Jews, then they
Speaker 1: doesn't mean Jews. When I say they want us to
Speaker 1: believe this or they want us to do that, and
Speaker 1: you hear Jews, that's your own derangement.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: If I want to say something about Jews, I'll say it.
Speaker 1: If I want to say something about Israel, I will
Speaker 1: say it. If I want to just like when I
Speaker 1: want to say something about black people, I'll say it.
Speaker 5: When I was.
Speaker 1: Saying during BLM, they want us to believe, nobody said
Speaker 1: do you mean Jews? And so again it's one of
Speaker 1: these trash tactics to make people fearful to speak. When
Speaker 1: I say Zionists run the media, I mean Zionists run
Speaker 1: the media. People that support the political ideology of Israel
Speaker 1: run the media. Any other things that I can help clarify.
Speaker 2: But are you familiar with this like very long standing trop.
Speaker 1: Who did give me about a trope.
Speaker 6: That's a pretty bold claim by Candice Owns. I mean
Speaker 6: zionis running the media.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if I believe it.
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's get into some clips see if we
Speaker 2: can confirm or deny her allegation the trope that she's
Speaker 2: pushing there. Uh.
Speaker 6: Anyways, welcome to Liberty Lockdown. This is that Clint Russell guy.
Speaker 6: That's right, it's me that guy, Clint Russell. Hi, Nick
Speaker 6: fuint does I forced my way onto your radar. Sorry
Speaker 6: about that. Just to clarify a point. You know, Nick
Speaker 6: Is was responding to something that I don't I don't
Speaker 6: remember Dave saying. It seemed to me he was taking
Speaker 6: it as like Dave was telling him he should apologize
Speaker 6: for things he said in the past.
Speaker 7: A lot of people like Dave Smith in particular, Dave
Speaker 7: Smith has been going around and I like Dave. I'm
Speaker 7: not trying to start drama with him again. But I
Speaker 7: saw Dave Smith did a show with that Clint Russell
Speaker 7: guy this week, and he said, why does Nick flent
Speaker 7: Is take back all the horrible things he said, like
Speaker 7: about Hitler and first of all, I don't think it's
Speaker 7: that horrible. Actually, I don't know why you're all offended.
Speaker 7: I thought you're a comedian. I don't think it's that bad.
Speaker 7: That's number one, Number two, This is why why will
Speaker 7: I never apologize? Why will I never do that? They're
Speaker 7: never operating in good faith? Know that, understand that, bank
Speaker 7: that when you're dealing with Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Josh Hammer,
Speaker 7: these guys are gangsters. They're crooks, these guys are liars,
Speaker 7: and they are never operating in good faith. You think
Speaker 7: the Anti Defamation League and the SPLC, you think these
Speaker 7: people operate in good faith. You think they're honest. You
Speaker 7: think they're looking for a sincere apology.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 7: They are looking for submission, They are looking for humiliation.
Speaker 6: I think it was more of like, you might want
Speaker 6: to move on from some of the shit posting because
Speaker 6: you're in a position of power now and you have
Speaker 6: a responsibility, and if you want to create a better
Speaker 6: world and better country, which I believe you do, that
Speaker 6: it may be best to leave some of the more
Speaker 6: aggressive shit posting in your past. I think that was
Speaker 6: the point he was making. I certainly didn't take it
Speaker 6: as him saying you should apologize to Ben Shapiro or
Speaker 6: Mark Levan or any of these people. So that's just
Speaker 6: my two cents. People can go back and watch it.
Speaker 6: I haven't gone back and watched it because I was
Speaker 6: in it, But if you guys want to go back
Speaker 6: and watch it and tell me what part Nick is
Speaker 6: actually responding to here, I would love to know if
Speaker 6: there is a point at which Dave said that Nick
Speaker 6: should apologize. I don't remember that happening. If it did happen,
Speaker 6: I stand corrected, but I don't think so, and I
Speaker 6: don't I just can't envision Dave saying that, because Dave
Speaker 6: is not the type they would apologize for any of
Speaker 6: the jokes he's made, so I don't think he's going
Speaker 6: to begin to these clips. I just want to give
Speaker 6: a quick kudos to Candice Owans, which, by the way,
Speaker 6: Dave Smith had Candae Sollans on yesterday. They had a
Speaker 6: great discussion as usual, and I got a name dropped again.
Speaker 2: Last night.
Speaker 5: I was on my buddy Clint Russell's podcast at Liberty
Speaker 5: Locked Out.
Speaker 2: Clint Russell, by the way, criminally underrated.
Speaker 5: He's great, So it was meet him and Ian Carroll
Speaker 5: and we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well it was a
Speaker 5: great show. I think I bowled over everyone. I talked
Speaker 5: too much on the show. I apologized for it afterward,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I bet I'm gonna get shit
Speaker 5: in the comments for this, and I did today, So
Speaker 5: sorry about that, guys.
Speaker 2: It was late. I'd had a couple of whiskeys. I
Speaker 2: was ramped in a bet.
Speaker 6: My life is very, very surreal, and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 6: we're living in the simulation at this point. That's the
Speaker 6: only assumption I can come to. I have no idea otherwise.
Speaker 6: While of this is happening, this is simulation theory confirmed,
Speaker 6: Elon Musk. I am your perfect case study. It's a simulation.
Speaker 2: You were right.
Speaker 6: I just want to point out this is the whole
Speaker 6: game here, folks. This is the whole reason that our
Speaker 6: little sphere here is dominating the commentating circle right now.
Speaker 6: Is like everybody wants to hear people telling their honest
Speaker 6: to god truth. They're actually more concerned about you being
Speaker 6: honest than they are about you being right. That's how,
Speaker 6: that's how just awash in lies. We have been our
Speaker 6: entire lives, really, but very starkly so. Over the past
Speaker 6: five years, that people are just like I want someone
Speaker 6: who tells it like they see it, not even like
Speaker 6: it is, but just like they see it. Kennis Owns
Speaker 6: is a perfect example of that. And she sits down
Speaker 6: with that CNN reporter and she's like, do you understand.
Speaker 2: Why people don't like it when you say they though?
Speaker 2: Can you understand given the age old trope?
Speaker 6: And Kennis is like, I don't give a shit about
Speaker 6: a trope. Don't care. If I want to talk about that,
Speaker 6: I'll talk about that. If I meant that, then I
Speaker 6: say that. If I didn't say that, I didn't mean that.
Speaker 6: Moving on, It's like, babam, that's exactly what people want.
Speaker 6: You can hate Candace. You can say she's got X
Speaker 6: y z R. It doesn't matter, doesn't matter the audience,
Speaker 6: the audience, don't lie.
Speaker 2: You're not doing millions of views per show.
Speaker 6: You're not the number one political podcast on the planet
Speaker 6: Earth because you're not delivering something that the people want.
Speaker 2: She's delivering it.
Speaker 6: And guess what, So is Nick Flentes, So is Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 6: So is Dave Smith. These are all the people that
Speaker 6: are telling how they see it, and as a consequence,
Speaker 6: they are getting enormous audiences. Ian Carroll a perfect example.
Speaker 6: So you're just not gonna stop this title? Waif you're
Speaker 6: not gonna stop it, and let me tell you, someone
Speaker 6: like Ben Shapiro, who's star rose like the phoenix and
Speaker 6: has now collapsed down to earth, is not gonna save you.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 6: For those that don't know, the big pushback over the
Speaker 6: past couple of days has been Ben Shapiro back hot
Speaker 6: on the circuit, trying to undermine and replace Tucker Carlson
Speaker 6: as the leader of the conservative commentating marketplace.
Speaker 2: Not gonna happen, Ben.
Speaker 6: I guess the stop that he makes to make this
Speaker 6: sales pitch to America CNN where all the Trump supporters
Speaker 6: are watching, right. I mean, this guy is such a
Speaker 6: clear crystal case of an operative. I don't know why
Speaker 6: anyone takes him seriously anymore, and let's be honest, very
Speaker 6: few people do. I was looking at his viewership recently
Speaker 6: and I'm like, there's a distinct possibility that my show,
Speaker 6: this little show, no marketing budget, no nothing, just pure
Speaker 6: networking and word of mouth and friends in this world
Speaker 6: that have helped me out, by the way, not via compensation,
Speaker 6: just because they like what I do. I'm like, there's
Speaker 6: a non zero chance that Liberty Lockdown will be more
Speaker 6: influential than Ben Shapiro by next year. Like, it's a
Speaker 6: distinct possibility. Think about how fucking crazy that is. Ben Shapiro,
Speaker 6: who was the darling of the YouTube algorithm for the
Speaker 6: past fifteen years, or at least for about a decade there.
Speaker 6: The past couple of years he kind of fellen off.
Speaker 6: But for about a decade it was like you go
Speaker 6: onto YouTube, I don't care what the fuck you're looking for.
Speaker 6: It was like Lex Friedman, Ben Shapiro and just boom
Speaker 6: right in your lap, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 6: What is Shapiro's actual role? What is his actual job?
Speaker 6: Because he would have you believe that his job is
Speaker 6: to commentate on the news, commentate on politics in America,
Speaker 6: But what is his real job? When do you see
Speaker 6: his most passionate retorts come out. It's not really against
Speaker 6: the lefties, it's not against the Wolk College students. He's
Speaker 6: kind of jovial during most of that. No no, no,
Speaker 6: no no. Ben Shapiro gets most activated most clearly when
Speaker 6: you critique literally anything about Israel. His number one passion
Speaker 6: in life is the defense of the nation of Israel.
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you how.
Speaker 2: I see it. That's my job, just to tell you
Speaker 2: how I see it.
Speaker 6: And I think as a consequence of that becoming more
Speaker 6: and more obvious, especially after the multi year war in Gaza,
Speaker 6: his audience is being hemorrhaged. So what does he do
Speaker 6: to reclaim his star on the Walk of Fame. Well,
Speaker 6: he goes to see an end and he.
Speaker 3: Says this, if somebody glosses Nazis on the air, that
Speaker 3: person probably should not be associated with a conservative thing tank,
Speaker 3: and that everyone should have a duty to say that
Speaker 3: that is a bad thing to do. The real issue
Speaker 3: here is I think that Tucker Carlson's morphing from I
Speaker 3: would say, a very edgy right wing political figure on
Speaker 3: Fox News, but certainly within the mainstream into a conspiracist,
Speaker 3: a person who ideologically wanders anti Semitism, who ideologically wanders
Speaker 3: all sorts of anti Americanism on his show, and then
Speaker 3: errs it for the public to hear with interviews like
Speaker 3: the ones he did with Nick Flents, which was essentially
Speaker 3: a massage with Nick flinnays the truth is that most
Speaker 3: people don't watch politics all that granularly. Even people who
Speaker 3: are in politics don't spend a lot of time on
Speaker 3: sort of the fringe edged lord right that Flint has is,
Speaker 3: and so the sort of mainstreaming, the popularization and normalization
Speaker 3: of Flentez by Carlson is significantly more important than just
Speaker 3: Flint as his existence. Obviously, it was a seminal moment.
Speaker 3: I think when it comes to the right's decision as
Speaker 3: to whether Tucker himself is a source of truth or
Speaker 3: whether he is a destructive force inside conservatism, I think
Speaker 3: the broader problem here is again that you have an
Speaker 3: enormous number of young people who are engaging with true
Speaker 3: white supremacist, anti Jew content and are taken in by it,
Speaker 3: and there do need to be more voices pushing back
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 2: Fren Spiro, we thank you for your voice.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Thanks so much, Jake Tapper of
Speaker 6: CNN saying Ben Shapiro, we thank you for your voice.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you do, Jake, I'm sure you do. CNN.
Speaker 6: It's just the rest of America that doesn't really appreciate
Speaker 6: it anymore. But let's be honest, what he's doing there
Speaker 6: is gatekeeping. He is trying to topple from the highest
Speaker 6: of heights when it comes to conservative media, one Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 6: someone who he used to compete with head to head,
Speaker 6: who he no longer does. And by the way, it
Speaker 6: should be pointed out that when Ben Shapiro talks about
Speaker 6: Nick Fuintes being on the fringes of the political right
Speaker 6: and basically painting him as some sort of like freak
Speaker 6: anomaly thing that really isn't that important, but yet it
Speaker 6: is important enough that apparently Tucker Carlson has to be canceled, Ben,
Speaker 6: Nick Fuentes is about, I don't know, five to ten
Speaker 6: times more popular than you right now, maybe more. I mean,
Speaker 6: if you're going to talk about fringe, what makes it fringe,
Speaker 6: it's he's more mainstream than you.
Speaker 2: Benny.
Speaker 6: Hate to break it to you, Bud, You're no longer
Speaker 6: the guy that you once were, at least that you
Speaker 6: thought you were, And I, for one, celebrate that fact.
Speaker 6: I think that's a great thing, because I would actually
Speaker 6: like the right wing in this country to be dedicated
Speaker 6: to this country, I know, very radical thought, and you
Speaker 6: are not. So now to just push back briefly on
Speaker 6: the entire basic criticism that he's making of Tucker Carls,
Speaker 6: and I kind of did that on the episode a
Speaker 6: week ago, so I'll keep it very brief, but he's
Speaker 6: saying that he's an idea launderer. He's a launderer of
Speaker 6: bad ideas. It's like, if you watch that interview, Carlson
Speaker 6: makes it very clear the areas of disagreement that he
Speaker 6: has with Nick Fuentes. He said his piece, he said
Speaker 6: what he wanted to express, and ultimately it is his
Speaker 6: platform and he gets to say what he wants. You know,
Speaker 6: an arena in which you could actually contend with Nick
Speaker 6: Fuente's dangerous, bad, fringe radical ideas well, that would be
Speaker 6: your own or literally anywhere on planet Earth. As Nick
Speaker 6: Fuintes has had an open invite to you, Ben Shapiro
Speaker 6: for years now, an invite for which you have ran consistently,
Speaker 6: you fucking coward.
Speaker 2: So how about.
Speaker 6: Instead of canceling Tucker Carlson, we cancel Ben Shapiro, seeing
Speaker 6: as he has an opportunity to defeat with better ideas
Speaker 6: the bad, dangerous, radical fringe ideas of one Nick Fontes,
Speaker 6: and he's not willing. So why should you be the
Speaker 6: leader of the right wing if you can't even contend
Speaker 6: with free speech and debate against these very obviously bad ideas.
Speaker 2: Ben Yeah, I'd.
Speaker 6: Say that's a much bigger problem than him not pushing
Speaker 6: back when Nick said that he idolizes Stalin, which by
Speaker 6: the way, I have watched the clips that go into
Speaker 6: detail explaining Nick's perspective on that, and he goes on
Speaker 6: to say that he thinks that Stalin's an evil guy,
Speaker 6: but he's it's just like he's an impressive historical figure
Speaker 6: coming from poverty and being this basically the most powerful
Speaker 6: man on earth. And Nick obviously has some affinity for
Speaker 6: strong men. So that's not my cup of tea. As liberty,
Speaker 6: I despise those types of figures, but I do understand
Speaker 6: his perspective, and it's not it's kind of how I
Speaker 6: feel about the Zionus, Like I don't really respect what
Speaker 6: they've done, but I totally can like go like, wow,
Speaker 6: that's impressive. It's an impressive amount of evil that's been committed.
Speaker 6: So I get the point he was making. I just
Speaker 6: wanted to correct the record on that because I did
Speaker 6: bring that up last week and I hadn't done the
Speaker 6: deep dive to watch the ten minute, you know, exposition
Speaker 6: as to why he felt that way, and in case
Speaker 6: you're still not convinced that Ben Shapiro's primary role in
Speaker 6: American political commentating is gatekeeping. Here's what PbD had to say.
Speaker 4: So when we had BB, I would say death threats
Speaker 4: at an all time high, no question. When BB came up,
Speaker 4: then they agree, all right, Ben wants to come on
Speaker 4: the podcast. Then when I said, you know, I want
Speaker 4: to have Nick on, I looked at the booking team
Speaker 4: after Ben was confirmed, I said, if they cancel, it's because.
Speaker 2: Of me agreeing to have Nick on.
Speaker 4: Great, we have Nick on, I show the clips, we
Speaker 4: have the conversations, everything takes place, fair interview. You sound
Speaker 4: like a racist year you sound like this here? Why
Speaker 4: are you dropping this word? So he's kind of like,
Speaker 4: you know, even manningut. Two weeks later, Ben Shapiro cancels.
Speaker 4: Why why do you cancel?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 4: What is the brand? Why not have conversations? We're not
Speaker 4: a fire brand, We're not well, let's see maybe next year. No,
Speaker 4: I'm not interested. Don't big shot yourself. It's unattractive.
Speaker 6: So I'm sure most of you have already figured this out,
Speaker 6: but let me make it explicit. What Ben Shapiro is
Speaker 6: doing right now is because Nick Fointes is so goddamn
Speaker 6: charismatic and has a lot of things right. It makes
Speaker 6: a really compelling argument that's really hard to refute. You
Speaker 6: now have an operation to try and because he has
Speaker 6: now gone from you know, blacklisted, third Rail can't talk
Speaker 6: about him basically Voldemort and he's now getting on bigger
Speaker 6: and bigger shows. Did candas did Tucker did Date Like
Speaker 6: he's doing the big shows now. Problem, he's been on PbD. Problem.
Speaker 6: So what is Shapiro doing Well, he's now withholding his
Speaker 6: services his guest appearance is as if he's such a
Speaker 6: fucking draw right from going on because he had funt
Speaker 6: des on. You see the game and what they're what
Speaker 6: they're attempting to do is they're attempting to make it
Speaker 6: so that anybody that host Nick Funtes can no longer
Speaker 6: be in the good graces of conn Inc.
Speaker 2: Maggot Inc.
Speaker 6: If you will, the Benny Johnson's of the world, the
Speaker 6: Pasobics of the world, you can't be in those good
Speaker 6: graces if you gain it necessary to have a conversation
Speaker 6: with Nick funt Is. And if you do have a
Speaker 6: conversation with Nick funt does it better be you calling
Speaker 6: him a racist, anti Semite for an hour straight and
Speaker 6: if it's not, well, then we're going to fucking destroy
Speaker 6: your life. That's what they're doing. It's super clear that's
Speaker 6: what he's doing. And it's not just him, it's Levin
Speaker 6: as well. But there's a lot of people that are
Speaker 6: pushing this. A lot Denish Jesus has been doing it,
Speaker 6: who I've done a show with, and I liked Densh
Speaker 6: But this is like, fucking so obvious and crazy. But
Speaker 6: there's other figures that are doing the same thing. And
Speaker 6: that's the game. This is the gate keeping game. This
Speaker 6: is not this is not reflective of the right wing
Speaker 6: movement that I like.
Speaker 2: That says fuck your feelings, right.
Speaker 6: Remember Shapiro used to basically say that, no, no, no, this
Speaker 6: is like feelings are paramount. Actually they're arguably more important
Speaker 6: than principles. In fact, they are more important than principles
Speaker 6: because one of my highest principles is free speech, letting
Speaker 6: better ideas win an open debate. I think that's a
Speaker 6: great way for us to move forward as a country,
Speaker 6: to settle our differences peacefully so that it doesn't get
Speaker 6: violent and crazy. That's actually what our founders believed in
Speaker 6: that's what I believe in. That's what I thought all
Speaker 6: Americans believed in, until someone like Nick funt does pops
Speaker 6: his head up and suddenly everybody forgets about the First Amendment. Well,
Speaker 6: my sincere apologies, I haven't forgotten about it. Still love it,
Speaker 6: still uphold it, still willing to die for it. Actually,
Speaker 6: and so is Tucker Carlson, So is Dave Smith, So's
Speaker 6: Cannie Owns, so is MTG. And I think Nick funt
Speaker 6: Is is right there with that mentality. So those are my people. Well,
Speaker 6: right now, we don't have to agree on everything. In fact,
Speaker 6: we don't, but we have to have shared cultural values,
Speaker 6: shared principles, a shared ethos by which we formulate civilization.
Speaker 6: And people like Ben Shapiro don't have it. Okay, this
Speaker 6: is the exact same thing. This is the fun house
Speaker 6: mirror of the twenty ten through twenty eighteen period, twenty
Speaker 6: twenty one period, really just the entire woke apocalypse that
Speaker 6: we went through. It's the same fucking thing. We all
Speaker 6: see it, right, there's a particular category of human beings
Speaker 6: that can't be criticized. Does that ring a bell for anybody?
Speaker 6: It rings a bell for me. We just went through it.
Speaker 6: That's what BLM was. This is what Candice Owens fought
Speaker 6: back against. This is the reason that she was so
Speaker 6: activated when this same phenomenon came on again, and once
Speaker 6: again she found herself on the other side of it,
Speaker 6: and God bless her, she didn't change her principles. She
Speaker 6: actually continued to push the same talking points. No, I'm
Speaker 6: going to say what I have to say about this
Speaker 6: group of people. Nobody's special. Everybody is open for criticism.
Speaker 6: That is actual Americanism, that is actual freedom. But Ben
Speaker 6: Shapiro doesn't want that. Mick Levin doesn't want that. And
Speaker 6: it's not just Ben Shapiro that's unwilling to debate these issues,
Speaker 6: especially with Nick fluent Is. They're trying to do the
Speaker 6: same fucking thing to Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson, who does
Speaker 6: not have the same worldview at least certainly not the
Speaker 6: exact same worldview of Nick fuint is far from it.
Speaker 6: But Levin gets an opportunity and offer directly from Tucker
Speaker 6: Carlson to debate their differences. And here's what Levin has
Speaker 6: to say.
Speaker 9: I got a very strange text this morning from Tucker
Speaker 9: Carlson ten and sixteen am. I'll read it to you
Speaker 9: for probade them. Good morning, he writes it to me.
Speaker 9: The leadership at Turning Point has asked me to debate
Speaker 9: you at their event in Scottsdale in December. I'm happy
Speaker 9: to do it, and I hope you'll agree as well.
Speaker 9: Beyond the personal insults, which I'll try to keep to
Speaker 9: a minimum, there are real important ideological differences between us,
Speaker 9: and I think the country would benefit from an extended
Speaker 9: conversation about them. So again, I hope you'll accept. Let
Speaker 9: me know thanks. The guy is desperate. He's taking a
Speaker 9: hit on his podcast. He's fighting like hell for his career,
Speaker 9: he's fighting like hell for his reputation. People are awakening
Speaker 9: to what scum he actually is, and he thinks I'm
Speaker 9: going to platform him. He thinks I'm going to help
Speaker 9: him kick up his podcast ratings. What would Charlie say?
Speaker 9: What would Rush say? What would any rational response?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 9: I wrote him the following, My family and I want
Speaker 9: nothing to do with you. Well, you've become your vile
Speaker 9: libels against my faith, millions of Christians, and in my view,
Speaker 9: what you seek to do to our country. There's nothing
Speaker 9: to debate you're a Nazi promoter. You're the modern day
Speaker 9: David Duke. I debate people with whom I disagree for
Speaker 9: living we're a lot smarter than you, but for whom
Speaker 9: I have some respect. I'm also disappointed in TPUSA that
Speaker 9: continues to platform you some unsolicited advice. Stop long enough
Speaker 9: to remember who you used to be and what you
Speaker 9: used to stand for. So has expected knee jerk. For
Speaker 9: the record, I'm strongly anti Nazi. Does he sound that
Speaker 9: way to you America? Oh you're gonna hear more. But
Speaker 9: that's hardly the point. This seems like the perfect opportunity
Speaker 9: to rebut what you consider evil ideas, and to do
Speaker 9: it to my face like a man. I think you
Speaker 9: jump at the chance, assuming you believe your positions are defensible.
Speaker 9: I'm offering the marketplace of ideas you often talk about.
Speaker 9: Is it possible you can't really defend, for example, what
Speaker 9: Israel has done to civilians in Gaza? They said, there
Speaker 9: you go. You're not feared, you're despised. Well, you're a coward,
Speaker 9: and if you change your mind, I'm here. Thanks, you
Speaker 9: little bastard. Nobody's afraid of you. I'd rather debate a
Speaker 9: skunk than you.
Speaker 6: It's moments like this where I feel like I'm losing
Speaker 6: my mind. Sincerely, Tucker Carlson is the biggest political commentator
Speaker 6: on the right wing, and Mark Levin says he's desperate,
Speaker 6: he's struggling, he's trying to defend his career, defend his podcast,
Speaker 6: his numbers. Plemitting you think I'm gonna go on and
Speaker 6: debate you and help uplift your podcast numbers. It's like,
Speaker 6: Mark Levin, what the fuck world do you live in?
Speaker 6: Like you're you're so irrelevant it's almost impossible to overstate,
Speaker 6: Like you're just barely more relevant than Josh Hammer. Like
Speaker 6: you're definitionally a non entity. You probably have like every
Speaker 6: time I respond to you on a I ratio, you
Speaker 6: not to say that that means I'm like important or anything.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying you're not important at all. Okay, so
Speaker 6: fuck And then to to you know, read off those
Speaker 6: private text messages, which, by the way, you're a total
Speaker 6: bitch for that, but also to do that in a
Speaker 6: way that's like you think you're dunking on Tucker with that.
Speaker 6: Tucker's like, Hey, I think it'd be good for the
Speaker 6: country that are you know, I'll try and keep the
Speaker 6: personal insults to him. And I think that we our
Speaker 6: differences are significant and the country would benefit from a
Speaker 6: long form, you know, debate between the two of us
Speaker 6: and what do you say? And he just goes off
Speaker 6: like you're an any semi and I would never and
Speaker 6: basically fuck you and your whole family. And it's like whoa.
Speaker 6: And then Tucker's just like, well, you're a coward. If
Speaker 6: you change your mind, I'll be here. It's like, Tucker
Speaker 6: looks like total chat energy there, bro, and you come
Speaker 6: off like a school marm, which you are. Anyways, let's
Speaker 6: move on from Mark Levin. I shouldn't have spent that much
Speaker 6: time on him. I apologize. I will never play Mark
Speaker 6: Levin again. Okay, I probably will, but not often. This
Speaker 6: is what Tucker had to say in response to Shapiro
Speaker 6: with Magan Kelly, which, by the way, I got a
Speaker 6: quick story. I actually went to Magan Kelly's event last
Speaker 6: night and I got to meet her, very very nice lady.
Speaker 2: I only got like a minute with her.
Speaker 6: It was very brief meet and greet type deal, but
Speaker 6: I did have enough time to say to her. Macan,
Speaker 6: I just want you to know that if you get
Speaker 6: the Tucker Carlson treatment.
Speaker 2: Next.
Speaker 6: There are ten million people that will back you up.
Speaker 6: You don't ever need to kneel. And she said, very sincerely,
Speaker 6: thank you so much. I really need the support right now.
Speaker 6: And then we took a photo and I pieced out.
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, I think she's a good person,
Speaker 6: and I think she's a courageous lady, and I hope
Speaker 6: that she recognizes that, like, you don't need to play
Speaker 6: this game anymore. For our entire lives. You had to
Speaker 6: bite your tongue. You could not tell certain truths. You
Speaker 6: just couldn't do it. And if you did, your career
Speaker 6: was over. You would get the Nick Fuontez treatment, no
Speaker 6: fly list, get your bank accounts closed, de platform blacklisted everywhere.
Speaker 2: That's not the world we're in anymore. In fact, it's
Speaker 2: the opposite.
Speaker 6: If you're courageous enough, you will shine, you will break through,
Speaker 6: You will hit heights that you have never hit before.
Speaker 6: That is the market speaking. All of the gatekeeping and
Speaker 6: the parameters by which we had to function before they
Speaker 6: have fallen. Fucking stand up, step up. And but if
Speaker 6: you still don't have the courage to do so, you
Speaker 6: have no one to blame but yourself. Look at all
Speaker 6: of the most high profile figures in this space right now, Tucker, Nick, Candace.
Speaker 6: What's the commonality. They tell it like they see it,
Speaker 6: and they're independent. You have a choice. This goes for
Speaker 6: Matt Walsh and everybody else that like people keep saying,
Speaker 6: when are you gonna leave the Daily Wire. Look, I'll
Speaker 6: just be straight with you. I don't give a shit
Speaker 6: what Matt Walsh does. If he wants to stay there
Speaker 6: and continue to bite his tongue about a bunch of shit,
Speaker 6: that's his prerogative. I don't care, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 6: take you seriously until you leave. Just being honest, you
Speaker 6: seem compromised. You are compromised. You can't say certain things,
Speaker 6: as evidenced by the fact that your colleague Candice Owens
Speaker 6: got fired because she said certain things that you're not
Speaker 6: allowed to say around bench berro Right, we all know
Speaker 6: that's what happened. So anyways, the market is telling you
Speaker 6: you will never be as successful as you can be
Speaker 6: in the political commentating space if you don't just fucking
Speaker 6: throw off the shackles and tell the truth.
Speaker 10: Isn't the this is an important race? Is not because
Speaker 10: Lindsay Graham is like Mark Levin. You know, some when
Speaker 10: if you're stuck an elevator with him, you'd have to
Speaker 10: obviously kill yourself because you couldn't handle. He's not that
Speaker 10: you would enjoy. You'd enjoy being stuck in elevator with him.
Speaker 10: That's the new world we're in. That's a good thing,
Speaker 10: ladies and gentlemen. That's the best fucking thing that has
Speaker 10: happened in forever.
Speaker 2: It's such a great thing. And yet a lot of.
Speaker 6: People are still scared. They're like, ah, he's still I mean,
Speaker 6: this is the whole James Lindsay pitch. He keeps saying
Speaker 6: it's not too late to turn back. You can always
Speaker 6: turn back, Clint. You can stop telling the truth and
Speaker 6: come back to the plantation and we'll forgive you. But
Speaker 6: the time is running out. You have to do it soon. No,
Speaker 6: not turning back. I'm not gonna start to lie to
Speaker 6: try and get along with the fucking people I don't
Speaker 6: respect anyways, Why would I.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it. Enjoy your fucking.
Speaker 6: Seapack speech or whatever. I was never invited to those
Speaker 6: things anyways. I'm a fucking radical libertarian. You guys hate
Speaker 6: me before, you're gonna hate me after.
Speaker 2: We're good. I'm good with that. We're cool.
Speaker 6: Speaking of Benchpiro, here's what he had to say to
Speaker 6: Makan Kelly.
Speaker 3: I think that what Candon's owns is doing right now
Speaker 3: is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now. Okay,
Speaker 3: and I say that again, but what because like.
Speaker 11: I don't know pine on whether it's evil or not.
Speaker 11: But my position is it's really none of my business,
Speaker 11: and why is it?
Speaker 3: But I have a question, why is it none of
Speaker 3: your business?
Speaker 2: I mean, you comment on these things for a little bit.
Speaker 7: I'm not mother of the Internet.
Speaker 3: No, But but if this were on the left and
Speaker 3: somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of his wife having murdered him,
Speaker 3: I assume that you would be talking about it.
Speaker 11: Is that what Candace is accusing Erica of Yes of
Speaker 11: murdering her own husband.
Speaker 3: She's accusing TPUSA insiders and other members of the right wing,
Speaker 3: including Seth Dyllan, of being involved in the murder of
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 11: Yes, Okay, Like I said, I don't take in that content,
Speaker 11: which is an honest statement.
Speaker 7: I don't have time to watch.
Speaker 5: I believe you, I believe you.
Speaker 3: But the point that I'm making is that in our business,
Speaker 3: I think it's important listen not trump. We don't even
Speaker 3: know what I understand, but with Tucker, friendship should not
Speaker 3: trump our manifest requirement to speak out when people do
Speaker 3: and say things that are both detrimental to conservatism and
Speaker 3: morally wrong.
Speaker 11: So I don't totally disagree, but I think the way
Speaker 11: of handling that, at least for me, is much different.
Speaker 6: Imagine condemning someone for saying something that you find morally reprehensible,
Speaker 6: which is what Ben Shapiro is doing to Canis Owns
Speaker 6: right there, and then just whole cloth making up a
Speaker 6: claim Cannas has never said, ever, never even hinted at.
Speaker 6: He says explicitly that Erica Kirk killed her own husband.
Speaker 6: According to Candas Owns, that's the allegation that Canis Owons
Speaker 6: is making. Cannas has never fucking said that ever, ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 6: That's a terrible, terrible lie, and he knows she hasn't
Speaker 6: said that. There's no way he fucking thinks she said that,
Speaker 6: which is why he immediately backpedals and he goes, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: she's saying that, you know, Seth Dylan and a bunch
Speaker 6: of the TPUSA insiders did it. She's not fucking saying
Speaker 6: that either. She's saying that she believes that they're covering up.
Speaker 6: The reason she believes that is because they are overtly lying,
Speaker 6: provably lying. We know that for a fact. Does that
Speaker 6: mean that they're covering up like the actual murder. We
Speaker 6: don't know. We just know that they're lying. So that's
Speaker 6: the position. A lot of people in Charlie's in her
Speaker 6: circle have been proven to have lied in the aftermath
Speaker 6: of his assassination. We don't know why, but it's totally reasonable,
Speaker 6: especially if you were fucking Charlie Kirk's friend, to ask
Speaker 6: those questions, which apparently Candace Owens is the only one
Speaker 6: that was actually his friend.
Speaker 2: You sick Fox.
Speaker 6: You just such a bad person, such a bad person
Speaker 6: to try and character assassinate Candis owns like that. I mean,
Speaker 6: you can have disagreements with her tactics. I've had my own,
Speaker 6: I've said so on this show, But to just fucking
Speaker 6: whole cloth fiction, just make up some shit that she
Speaker 6: hasn't said, that's really beyond the pale, obviously, and then
Speaker 6: to attribute to Candas Owens on a platform which By
Speaker 6: the way, I was at one of those events, so
Speaker 6: I know how many people are there, thousands of people
Speaker 6: sitting there. And to say that to Megan Kelly and
Speaker 6: then to demand of Megan Kelly essentially that she condemn
Speaker 6: Candice Owns, Tucker Carlson, blah blah blahlah. List goes on
Speaker 6: and on now for things that didn't even happen. And
Speaker 6: you're the moral arbiter. You're the moral guardrails of the
Speaker 6: right wing that we have to listen to and basically
Speaker 6: craft our lifestyles around. Get the fuck out of here, dude, No,
Speaker 6: you're reprehensible. If you start taking your moral guidance from
Speaker 6: someone like Ben Shapiro, you need to go to church immediately.
Speaker 2: Holy shit.
Speaker 6: I like the duplicity that I mean, it's not even duplicit,
Speaker 6: it just overlies. Oh, I can't believe these people. All right,
Speaker 6: one more clip.
Speaker 11: The main criticism, as I understand it, has been well, yes, platforming.
Speaker 11: They say that I don't accept platforming as a valid objection.
Speaker 2: What is that a verb?
Speaker 10: By the way, you take a noun and you make
Speaker 10: it into a verb, and nobody says anything. As a
Speaker 10: former editor, I say no, yeah, I agree, honestly.
Speaker 11: But like, as far as I know, Nick Fointes hasn't
Speaker 11: eaten anyone, you know, I mean Jeffrey Dahmer, eight people,
Speaker 11: and he was platformed by Diane saur Did we have.
Speaker 10: A member, a sitting member of Congress. I spoke to
Speaker 10: the Speaker of the House about this.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 10: We have a sitting member of Congress from Florida called
Speaker 10: Randy Fine who is literally texted or put on Twitter.
Speaker 10: We should kill them all, every single one. Someone texted
Speaker 10: a picture of literally of a dead baby and he
Speaker 10: laughs at it, and it's like, this guy's a lawmaker's
Speaker 10: appropriating money to a military committing genocide and that's cool.
Speaker 10: It's not cool now, And let's just be honest. That
Speaker 10: is much worse than anything Nick Fuentez.
Speaker 6: That's irrefutable, obviously, factually accurate. Randy Fine and what he
Speaker 6: has said and done is on all levels worse than
Speaker 6: any of the worst hits or jokes or whatever the
Speaker 6: fuck you want to say about Nick fuente is way worse. Literally,
Speaker 6: like tens of thousands of people died. Hello, you think
Speaker 6: tens of thousands of people died because Nick made a joke? No,
Speaker 6: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Rain.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think this is a perfect opportunity for
Speaker 6: those that are the morality gatekeepers, which, by the way,
Speaker 6: I generally don't like go off critiquing people's morals in
Speaker 6: this world. I just don't care. It's not my place.
Speaker 6: It's not really relevant to the future of the country.
Speaker 6: Unless I see like obvious lies, like obvious liars, I
Speaker 6: will call that out. But like, if it's a difference
Speaker 6: of opinion and your morals are you know, a little
Speaker 6: bit questionable, I tend not to concern myself with it, Like,
Speaker 6: do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: I don't care. You're not relevant, so keep it moving.
Speaker 6: But when it comes to the people who are doing this,
Speaker 6: the actual woke, right, the actual people that want to
Speaker 6: cancel others, and they actually have reprehensible morals themselves, well
Speaker 6: then yeah, it's time for the little hypocrisy shuffle. Let's
Speaker 6: play that game. You want to question my morals, how
Speaker 6: about we question yours? How about the genocide you funded?
Speaker 6: How about that? How about all of the wars you guys,
Speaker 6: how about the violations of the first and second and
Speaker 6: fifth and every Amendment? How about we talk about that
Speaker 6: a little bit, talk about that and talk about how
Speaker 6: You've gotten super wealthy off of destroying this country. If
Speaker 6: you want to have a morallity debate, okay, let's do it,
Speaker 6: especially the politicians. Just to repeat, you're not going to
Speaker 6: win this debate with suppression. The entire horse all of
Speaker 6: the horses have stampeded out of the corral. The barn
Speaker 6: door flew open, the hinges have broken off, there are
Speaker 6: no doors left.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: This is what Asmen Gold, who's one of the biggest
Speaker 6: streamers on YouTube, had to say to a Harrison Smith
Speaker 6: clip friend of the show.
Speaker 7: If you have a problem with any of that, you
Speaker 7: hate Jews and you are a not Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, it's just not gonna it's not working.
Speaker 8: And so the right is like there are two factions
Speaker 8: inside of right wing politics right now. There are America
Speaker 8: first Conservatives and there are international traditional you know, neo
Speaker 8: con is Israel like, you know, like lobbyist people, right like,
Speaker 8: there are two groups of people here and the infighting
Speaker 8: is why they're losing. They're losing because they're infighting. The
Speaker 8: reality though, is it again the Israel issue is the
Speaker 8: Republican trans issue. I think eighty percent a huge amount
Speaker 8: of voters are demoralized completely fucking demoralized by the fact
Speaker 8: that they have politicians playing like cow telling and playing
Speaker 8: paddy cake with Israel constantly.
Speaker 2: It is. It's a massive thing.
Speaker 8: And the more that you play into that, and the
Speaker 8: more that you try to like, oh no, this is normal,
Speaker 8: this is fine, that's the problem. Who are you voting
Speaker 8: in the best interest for American citizens or Israeli citizens
Speaker 8: and you're in the American fucking government. I think you
Speaker 8: know what, if you can answer that question, I have
Speaker 8: a different question, do you want to go to Israel
Speaker 8: today or tomorrow? Because you're getting a one way ticket
Speaker 8: there and you're never coming back. That's my opinion.
Speaker 6: It's not a political commentator, that's just like a cultural
Speaker 6: commentator basically on YouTube and millions of yours, millions this
Speaker 6: is and he's reflective of his generation, the twenty to
Speaker 6: forty year old generation is like, we're not fucking doing
Speaker 6: this anymore. So good luck, good luck blacklisting all of us.
Speaker 6: You think we won't all migrate to whatever platform allows
Speaker 6: us to continue to have these conversations. By the way,
Speaker 6: I'm so like in this world and so radicalize at
Speaker 6: this point, I can't even go to normy conventions anymore.
Speaker 6: Like they used to be really interesting to me to hear,
Speaker 6: you know, someone talk some either politician or commentator, and
Speaker 6: now I just hear them. I'm like barring, it's such
Speaker 6: a snoozefest man. And no disrespect to Megan. I do
Speaker 6: like her, but you know that shit doesn't do anything
Speaker 6: for me. Like after the three hour long conversation you
Speaker 6: have with Dave Smith and he and Carol, you think
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go listen to Eric Trump talk and be
Speaker 6: like riveted. No, because they can't tell the whole truth.
Speaker 6: That's that's the whole market demand. And I'm just like
Speaker 6: you guys, that's all I want. I want honest, interesting
Speaker 6: discussions from people who are not bought and paid for.
Speaker 6: And if I sniff that, I click, I changed the channel.
Speaker 6: It's immediately over and I don't turn back. And that's
Speaker 6: the whole environment. Now I probably shouldn't even be giving
Speaker 6: these tips to them, but like they're not gonna take
Speaker 6: me seriously anyways, because I'm al racious.
Speaker 2: I a beggoting right. So that's the truth.
Speaker 6: Though, if you want to win in this game, which
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a game, but you know what,
Speaker 6: I'm saying, if you want to win in this market,
Speaker 6: you have to tell the fucking truth and you cannot
Speaker 6: be compromised. And if you are well, then you better
Speaker 6: have a huge marketing budget behind you, like mister Hollyhand,
Speaker 6: and pray to God that you trick enough people that
Speaker 6: you can actually make a living doing this, because best
Speaker 6: I can tell, this is the first time in my
Speaker 6: life that all that matters, literally, all that matters is honesty.
Speaker 6: What a world, What a beautiful fucking time to be alive.
Speaker 6: It's so good, it's so it's so refreshing, And I'm
Speaker 6: not going back. I don't know about you. I'm not
Speaker 6: going back. I absolutely refuse. I will never go back
Speaker 6: into the fucking corral of allowable opinion. Fuck you, Let
Speaker 6: me show you a good example of those types of
Speaker 6: speeches that are super caned and obviously bought and paid for.
Speaker 2: This is our good friend, Penny Johnson. How we doing tonight? Good?
Speaker 12: How we're feeling? You feeling that revival spirit? You're feeling
Speaker 12: that revolutionary spirit, that comeback spirit. One year ago tonight
Speaker 12: President Trump won the twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 6: You want to know how your presidency's pretty much a
Speaker 6: total failure. On the one year anniversary of you winning
Speaker 6: the election, the only celebration that you have is to
Speaker 6: say that you won the election.
Speaker 2: That's a great sign.
Speaker 6: That's not like we're one year into the Trump's presidency
Speaker 6: and here's all of the things that he's accomplished. It's
Speaker 6: just one year ago we won. Do you feel the spirit? No,
Speaker 6: I don't feel the spirit. And if I do feel anything,
Speaker 6: it's anger, actually, And why can this elucidates that quickly?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 1: And if you think you're going to infiltrate and convince us,
Speaker 1: So this is the same party while we get gas
Speaker 1: lit about everything that's happening. Like I said, you lost
Speaker 1: the party. Maga got fractured. Not when Tucker Carlson interviewed
Speaker 1: Nick Fuentes, but when Donald Trump looked at us in
Speaker 1: our faces and said Epstein. Who That's when it was
Speaker 1: game over.
Speaker 6: You guys, remember that, right a couple months ago, you're
Speaker 6: still talking about Epstein?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, have and we moved on.
Speaker 6: Well, President Trump, it's because no one's fucking in prison
Speaker 6: other than the guy who died in prison.
Speaker 2: Inexplicably.
Speaker 6: By the way, another friend of the show, former guest
Speaker 6: Steve Baker, has an incredible expose that I'm not gonna
Speaker 6: read the whole thing to you. It's gonna be out
Speaker 6: and he's probably gonna be doing the media circuit and
Speaker 6: I'll see if I can get him on for a
Speaker 6: quick hit on the show to discuss it. But he
Speaker 6: works for the Blaze, and kudos to him if.
Speaker 2: You got this right. He deserves the pulitzer for real.
Speaker 6: They think that they have basically a gate match, so
Speaker 6: based off of the walking of a former Capitol police
Speaker 6: officer who they believe is responsible for planning the J
Speaker 6: five pipeon. That's the bomb that was planted the night
Speaker 6: before the J six riots, which we now know had
Speaker 6: hundreds of playing close police officers involved, which probably catalyzed
Speaker 6: the rights to begin with.
Speaker 2: So I'll just tell you what I think. This is early.
Speaker 6: No arrests have been made, no arrest will probably ever
Speaker 6: be made, and we'll probably never get justice because that's
Speaker 6: just how everything works.
Speaker 2: Again, just being honest.
Speaker 6: But here's my thought process, and I've felt like this
Speaker 6: for a long time. But if it turns out that
Speaker 6: Steve Baker's investigation is correct and that this lady Capitol
Speaker 6: police cop is actually responsible for planning that pipeine, which,
Speaker 6: by the way, she then went on a couple months
Speaker 6: later quit her job and now works with the CIA.
Speaker 6: Ah Uh sometimes sometimes fucking Alex Jones is right, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Anyways, if that's true, I'll tell
Speaker 6: you what I think. I don't know for sure. I
Speaker 6: don't know, but we know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: We don't know know, but we know if she got
Speaker 6: a job with the CIA and she's responsible for that pipeon,
Speaker 6: the CIA did it, like, we can all acknowledge that, right, Okay,
Speaker 6: So I think it's a CIA. I think it was
Speaker 6: also the Democrats because they did the whole J six
Speaker 6: hearings where they lied and obfuscated and hit exculpatory evidence.
Speaker 6: So yeah, they were part of it. They were part
Speaker 6: of the operation too, But a lot of Republicans too.
Speaker 6: I think that's the main thing that people are not
Speaker 6: going to want to talk about. This is a by
Speaker 6: part is an affair. You don't set up and entrap
Speaker 6: a thousand plus people on JA with a CIA operation
Speaker 6: in plane clothes undercovers without it being a bipart is
Speaker 6: an affair.
Speaker 2: You know how.
Speaker 6: I know that because Donald Trump's been in office for
Speaker 6: a year now, or he won a year ago. He's
Speaker 6: been in office for ten months, and none of those
Speaker 6: people are in prison, not even indicted, not on trial, nothing. Actually,
Speaker 6: So you tell me, what does that tell you? Tells
Speaker 6: you that this is a bipart is an affair. This
Speaker 6: is the actual swamp, which in my opinion, Donald Trump
Speaker 6: is knelt to or was always part of.
Speaker 2: I don't know which.
Speaker 6: So that's my perspective on it, and I think that
Speaker 6: the operation was specifically. This is my guess that J five,
Speaker 6: you plant a pipe bomb. J six, you try and
Speaker 6: catalyze riots. That's what you try to do. And if
Speaker 6: you fail, because the participants in the protest on J six,
Speaker 6: for whatever reason, do not get violent and do not
Speaker 6: charge into the Capitol despite the antagonism and the by
Speaker 6: the playing closed cops to get them to do so, well,
Speaker 6: then you just detonate that bomb that you had planted
Speaker 6: there the night before.
Speaker 2: That's my guess. And is it dark.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's real dark. And if it's true, then it's
Speaker 6: right up there with any of the biggest scandals in
Speaker 6: American history right up there. I'm going to go into
Speaker 6: further detail once we get additional confirmation, and God willing
Speaker 6: we get some arrests on this thing, but I'm gonna
Speaker 6: leave it at that for now. It's a huge story,
Speaker 6: and you're not going to hear about this, most likely
Speaker 6: from Fox News and CNN and all these other organizations.
Speaker 2: That's my guess.
Speaker 6: I hope I'm proven wrong on that, But my God,
Speaker 6: talk about a tyrannical empire we live under. Framing the
Speaker 6: populace right wing as terrorists. But don't you dare. Don't
Speaker 6: you for a second think that they might have been
Speaker 6: involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That would be dangerous,
Speaker 6: that would be radical. I wouldn't go there. All right,
Speaker 6: I got one serious bit of news that I got
Speaker 6: to get into. I mean, this has all been serious,
Speaker 6: but like one less salacious story that I think is
Speaker 6: really important. And this ties into my wheelhouse because this
Speaker 6: is about mortgages, and this will be really boring for
Speaker 6: some people and really really interesting for others. So I
Speaker 6: don't know, you can judge for yourself if this is
Speaker 6: a segment worth watching. It's gonna be very quick, but
Speaker 6: I think it's really important. So here's Donald Trump, or
Speaker 6: the Trump administration's brainchild to remedy the home ownership crisis
Speaker 6: amongst the young in this country. I'm sure you're thinking
Speaker 6: to yourself, well, they're just gonna like cut regulations and
Speaker 6: they're gonna make it so that it's much easier to
Speaker 6: build because if you increase the supply, then it might
Speaker 6: meet the demand and then pricing will come down. Right, No,
Speaker 6: none of that. Their big plan to remedy the crisis
Speaker 6: of young people's home ownership is to extend mortgages from
Speaker 6: thirty years to fifty years. Oh man, I'm so personally
Speaker 6: offended on so many runts, like my Austrian economics background, furious,
Speaker 6: my mortgage broker background, furious physical conservative background. Just I'm
Speaker 6: so angry about this, So just real briefly, let me explain.
Speaker 6: So a thirty year mortgage versus a fifty year mortgage, Right,
Speaker 6: Obviously it's an amortization, so it's gonna be how many
Speaker 6: years it takes you to pay off that loan, So
Speaker 6: it's an additional twenty years. So if you buy that
Speaker 6: house at twenty five years old, you're not gonna be
Speaker 6: able to afford a house until're probably thirty or thirty
Speaker 6: five or forty, So thirty five years old plus fifty
Speaker 6: puts you eighty five when you pay off that fucking mortgage. Sorry,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna try not to laugh through this whole thing,
Speaker 6: but it's so fucking crazy. It makes me so mad,
Speaker 6: all right. So then you take do the math on this,
Speaker 6: So a thirty year mortgage at six percent, say like
Speaker 6: half a million dollar loan, because like starter home is
Speaker 6: usually six to eight hundred thousand in much of the
Speaker 6: country now, so you take out a half a million
Speaker 6: dollar loan, and the payment difference between a thirty and
Speaker 6: a fifty year mortgage is about four hundred dollars per month.
Speaker 6: And the way qualification works for a mortgage is that
Speaker 6: your DTI, your debt to income ratio usually is capped
Speaker 6: at fifty percent of your gross income. So say you
Speaker 6: make I don't know, seven thousand dollars a month, that
Speaker 6: means that your DTI is capped at fifty percent, which
Speaker 6: is thirty five hundred. That's fifty percent of seven thousand.
Speaker 6: So you can now have a mortgage payment of thirty
Speaker 6: five hundred and qualify and then buy that home. But
Speaker 6: in reality, what dynamic does this create. It takes a
Speaker 6: lot of people that weren't able to qualify for a
Speaker 6: home at the price level that they would actually be
Speaker 6: interested in buying, say a six hundred or seven hundred
Speaker 6: thousand dollars house. Now they're able to qualify for the loan,
Speaker 6: but so are them and a million other twenty to
Speaker 6: forty year olds who have all been renting and waiting
Speaker 6: for the housing market to collapse. So now you have
Speaker 6: all of these people who have been waiting patiently for
Speaker 6: the market to collapse, which it will inevitably if they
Speaker 6: don't do shit like this, and it should, and they're
Speaker 6: going to now add a whole bunch of demand to
Speaker 6: a market that's still doesn't have enough supply, adding more
Speaker 6: fuel to the already historic real estate bubble in this country,
Speaker 6: despite the fact that affordability is totally out of whack.
Speaker 6: That's their master plan to add more demand and do
Speaker 6: nothing about supply. Fucking awesome, awesome work, and to bury
Speaker 6: you in debt literally until you die.
Speaker 2: That is Donald.
Speaker 6: Trump's master plan to make sure that you're happy again,
Speaker 6: that the populace right is subdued, that you can then
Speaker 6: go start a family because you can afford a house,
Speaker 6: but you can really barely afford a house, and you're
Speaker 6: still gonna be up to your neck in debt forever.
Speaker 6: God bless America, right, really getting us on the right track.
Speaker 6: And then this is their big fix, right, this is
Speaker 6: the big fix to the fucking big problem that's radicalizing
Speaker 6: all the young people in this country.
Speaker 2: Especially young white men.
Speaker 6: They're gonna put you in debt for fifty years after
Speaker 6: you already are indebted for your student loans, which got
Speaker 6: you a degree that gets you nothing, and then they're
Speaker 6: gonna replace all of your jobs at AI. They're gonna
Speaker 6: bury you in debt, and then they're gonna say vote
Speaker 6: for me, because at least we're not woke, except we
Speaker 6: are woke when it comes to our greatest ally, right,
Speaker 6: So fuck dude, that ain't gonna work. I know this
Speaker 6: seems like a really negative episode, but I'm just being
Speaker 6: straight with you, Like, does that work for anybody?
Speaker 2: Hello? No, it shouldn't.
Speaker 6: I hope that people are smart enough to recognize that
Speaker 6: scam for what it is. A thirty year mortgage is
Speaker 6: already a fucking albatross. You go into a fifty year
Speaker 6: mortgage just to reduce the payment on a half a
Speaker 6: million dollar loan by four hundred dollars a month so
Speaker 6: you can qualify it. Instead of buying a five hundred
Speaker 6: thousand dollars home, you can now buy a six hundred
Speaker 6: thousand dollars home.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, thanks, thanks Daddy Trump. It's gross. So long
Speaker 2: story short. Basically, the conclusion of all this is.
Speaker 6: I lost a bunch of my relatives to fentanyl, and
Speaker 6: we go like, Trump, could you do anything about that?
Speaker 13: And he's like, Israel has never had a better friend
Speaker 13: than President Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 6: And then you're like, all right, but I mean you're
Speaker 6: gonna end these wars, right, because like you did promise that,
Speaker 6: and you're gonna make sure that we get justice and
Speaker 6: disclosures on the Epstein files.
Speaker 13: And you're like, Trump, Israel has never had a better
Speaker 13: friend than President Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 2: You're gonna fix that, right, That's what we voted for.
Speaker 13: And here, Israel has never had a better friend than
Speaker 13: President Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 6: And then you're like, I can't afford a house or
Speaker 6: have kids or start a family, So if you could
Speaker 6: do something to help us out with that, that'd be great,
Speaker 6: And maybe I'd consider voting for Jdvans if you can
Speaker 6: actually just deliver on the promises you made, if you
Speaker 6: can deal with the border, and you can deport a
Speaker 6: bunch of people, and you can actually deal with the
Speaker 6: supply demand dynamic when it comes to housing, so that
Speaker 6: I can actually start a family. That would be great.
Speaker 6: But like, what do you have to say about that
Speaker 6: President Trump?
Speaker 13: Israel has never had a better friend than President Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I feel like you're not hearing me.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest with you, Like, I don't feel
Speaker 6: like you're actually hearing anything that I'm saying right now.
Speaker 6: And that's the real problem is that you're not hearing us.
Speaker 6: We continue to tell you exactly how we feel. We're
Speaker 6: like the first generation maybe ever that's actually willing to
Speaker 6: just say it like it is, tell you exactly why
Speaker 6: we're mad and actually not be demanding handouts. Most of
Speaker 6: us are not saying, like, let's vote for Mondani and
Speaker 6: get fucking state ran grocery stores to bring the price
Speaker 6: of beef down by fifty cents. We're like, can you
Speaker 6: dismantle the red tape and the regulatory environment the di
Speaker 6: skyrocketed things? Can you stop borrowing and printing and spending
Speaker 6: us into oblivion so that I can actually afford to
Speaker 6: get things on my own. Can you stop subsidizing the
Speaker 6: housing market and handing out basically free cash to the
Speaker 6: hedge funds to go out and acquire all these rental
Speaker 6: properties which absorb so much of the supply of housing
Speaker 6: and ultimately drives up prices through the roof.
Speaker 2: Could you do that?
Speaker 13: Israel has never had a better friend than President Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 6: We're not asking for a fucking handout. We're just asking
Speaker 6: for you to get the fuck out of our way.
Speaker 2: And you can't even do that.
Speaker 6: And when there's a revolution in this country as a
Speaker 6: consequence of this, don't say I didn't warn you because
Speaker 6: I didn't want it to happen, and I still don't
Speaker 6: want it to happen, and I want desperately for you
Speaker 6: to hear. Are please pl e as no e please,
Speaker 6: We are pleading with you.
Speaker 14: Publican party which is have they've lost their goddamn mind.
Speaker 14: They're arguing about who's allowed to talk to who on
Speaker 14: the internet, but yet all the flights from being grounded,
Speaker 14: the airspace is being closed, We've got a government shut down.
Speaker 14: The money is still going out the door to so
Speaker 14: we can invade Venezuela, arm Israel, arm the Ukraine, or
Speaker 14: it's a giveaway to Pallenteer so that Peter Tiel can
Speaker 14: install surveillance technology and all the cities that riding is
Speaker 14: going to happen in in three two.
Speaker 2: What I mean like it's coming.
Speaker 14: You can feel it, and that's where the Republican Party is.
Speaker 6: Please listen to us. We're not asking for the world.
Speaker 6: Put this country first and get the fuck out of
Speaker 6: our way.
Speaker 2: That's it.
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