Speaker 1: And hello, Hi, how are you welcome to the Big
Podcast on this Wednesday. Today is the eleventh day of February,
Year of Our Lord, two thousand and twenty six. My
name is Tom Sullivan. So we have you know yesterday
the new everything blew up and everybody was on the
hot and heavy on the search for Nancy Guthrie, and
the video came out and so it was it was
taking all the focus. I'll give you an update on
how that's going. They're still searching for they haven't made
any arrest, but there's some interesting experts talking about the investigation.
That will play for you. But I want it. We've
got a lot of other things to get to. Let me.
Let me start with what came out this morning. A
thirty in the morning Eastern time. Labor Department comes up,
I'm sorry, Bureau of Labor Statistics comes out with their
monthly jobs report. It's the first Friday of every month.
And you're going, it's not the first Friday. Tommy just
said it was Wednesday. Yeah, that's because it was supposed
to come out the first Friday, but because of the
latest government shutdown, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said, we
don't have the we don't have the data. So we
got the information out today and I'll give you I'll
give you just the data, and you decide whether you
think this makes sense or not. I'm having trouble with it.
Let me put it that way. So economists surveyed Wall
Street Journal does a big group of a twenty some
economists from banks, from universities, from think tanks, and from
all over the place, a diversified group. And those economists said, well,
we think payrolls, labor, labor is everybody's watching it closely.
Is it starting to lose its strength? Is there a
crack in the labor market? Well, economist said, looked like,
we think fifty five thousand payrolls were added in the
month of January. And then Goldn Sachs came out and said, yeah,
that sounds a little high. He was how about forty
five thousand. So instead they came out with oh, and
City Bank they're economists said because of seasonal distortions, they
think that it will be closer to zero. So when
the Bureau of Labor Statistics announced the jobs report this morning,
they said, yeah, it was one hundred and thirty thousand
payrolls added. Last month. That was double what even some
of the most generous estimates were. Where they came up
with this, I don't know. They had to delay reports
the report because of the fact that they didn't have
the collection process working during the month of December because
of the shutdown. So well, the first print is one
hundred and thirty thousand payrolls were added twice as much
as had been estimated. The unemployment rate dropped from four
point four down to four point three. The number of
people that have been long term unemployed at the U
six eight percent. That's down from eight point four. So
that went the right direction. But when you take a
look at the annual benchmark revision they do it every January,
they decided, well, last year, the number of jobs added
last year was overstated by one million, twenty nine thousand,
huge miss on the on the jobs reports for the
year of twenty twenty five. So they said, yeah, there's
a million, one hundred and fifty eight million people working,
and previously they had estimated to be over one hundred
and fifty nine million, so they had to adjust with
the annual benchmark revision dropped by a million twenty nine thousand,
So that's why I go. I don't know about these numbers,
but everybody says you've got to rely upon these average
hourly earn It's up three point seven percent. That's better
than inflation. Inflation is running just a little under three.
Participation rate went up to sixty two point five. That's
all good. But if I can bring you back to
a report that oh and let me go back. They
also did the revisions. They revised not only the annual
bench parking revision, but they also revised the monthly reports.
In November, they reduced that to payrolls of only forty
one thousand. December revised to payrolls of only forty eight thousand.
So forty one thousand November, forty eight thousand December. The
asttimaut was fifty five thousand, and instead we come up
with one hundred and thirty thousand. I'm going to basically
brace yourself for this number is not good. They're going
to make a major revision to it. Remember, just a
couple of weeks ago, the big company that keeps track
of everything regarding the labor market challenges are Gray and Christmas.
They've been around forever, and they said that in the
month of January. This is the report we're getting today.
But they said in the month of January there was
one hundred and eight thousand layoffs, which was the highest
January total since two thousand and nine during the Great Recession.
So I give you the I'll give you the numbers,
but I'm just telling you this labor market is a
big question mark, and the FED takes a very close
look at the labor market to determine what to do
with interest rates. When you take a look around federal
government federal government jobs, we know that the DOGE came
in and whacked those the government. Federal government workers peaked
in October of twenty twenty four, and it has declined
three hundred and twenty seven thousand jobs working at the
US government since then, about eleven percent drop. So we
have we have a lot of at one point eight
million people are long term unemployed. That's about twenty five
percent of all the unemployed people out there. So that's
the jobs report was a big deal this morning and
Wall Street the bond market did not go crazy, but
it changed a little bit. But the market today was
all said and done, was down just a little bit,
not much of a change. So We'll take what we can.
Retail sales also, you've got to be careful here because
retail sales, they said, well, well, by the way this
goes back, this is the December number, and it was
essentially flat unchanged. Retail sales in December unchanged, So that's
the seasonally adjusted number, but when you take out the
seasonal adjustments, it hit a record high. So I don't
know if retail sales did well or did not do well,
but if you do the seasonal adjustments, it was flat
as a pancake. What else do we have today? Oh
my gosh, they've been doing these hearings in Washington that
are just an embarrassment to everybody today. They drug Pam
Bondy bonding in as the Attorney generalman before this committee,
and just you knew what was going to happen. The
Democrats were all going to just hit her with bows
and arrows, and they did, and she's, you know, snarked
right back at them. It was embarrassing. I thought it
was absolutely terrible. John Kennedy talking about these hearings and
about the funding for the Department of Homeland Security. Remember
they're supposed to that's the only part that wasn't agreed
to be funded. And if they don't fund that, well,
Senator Hawley from Missouri said, well, here's some of the
things that will not be funded if they don't get that.
DHS funding put through.
Speaker 2: Coastguard doesn't get funded, TSA doesn't get funded, FEMA doesn't
get funded. So if you're an area like in my
state we had terrible tornadoes, we're due for a whole
bunch of FEMA belief, none of it will come. If
you're trying to travel, Good luck to you because TSA
isn't going to be operating.
Speaker 1: ICE will not be defunded.
Speaker 3: If this doesn't pass, all of those other things that
the American people depend on will be.
Speaker 1: We brought this up, but apparently the people in Congress
don't know this. DHS, the funding for ICE has already
been done and they're funded through twenty twenty nine. But
the Day Democrats in the House are really mad and
have to do something about ICE because the far left
wing of the party is very upset and they want
them to defund ICE. So defunding ICE is kind of
out of the same paragraph. Isn't it that the Democrats
were going around back in twenty twenty going defund police,
and you know how that worked out for their party.
Al Motor, who is a Democrat strategist, talking about not
only the fact that the defund police message, but he's
also reacting to In New Jersey yesterday they had a
special election to fill the empty seat of Mikey Sheryl,
who was elected governor of New Jersey. So a woman
by the name of the Anna Lita Mahea. She is
a far left Democrat and guests who won she did,
I mean, she's really far left. So this guy, Alma
Tour is a big Democrat strategist in the state of
New Jersey.
Speaker 4: He's a Democrat. Listen to his reaction you alluded to.
You live near there and understand the politics quite well.
And this is about a leftward lurch amongst some in
my party, including Ken Martin, who just showed a clip
of who are pushing a more leftist agenda in the
rhetoric of fighting Trump. Well, elections are about local issues.
As you said, I think that this district is pretty liberal,
and so she's likely to prevail, and the squad is
going to have another member, which is not good for
our national politics. Why not, it's not good because I mean,
not only is she anti Israel, she wants to abolish ICE.
ICE has done some horrible things in Minnesota, but ICE
also does lots of good things every day around the country.
They shouldn't be abolished, they should be formed, and they
ought to have monitoring and oversight like any law enforcement group.
We shouldn't abolished them, just like we shouldn't have abolished
the police five years ago. Look where that got our party.
We're starting to get back into that stupid rhetoric and
it's not going to help us Sun the national scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't sound happy, does he. And he's a
Democrat and it was a Democrat versus the Democrat. But
the far left, what do you call her? The proberbly
The new member of the squad has been elected, and
so today was a meltdown. Yesterday was a meltdown in
these congressional hearings. I'm telling you that their children would
do better than the behavior that we've seen in Congress.
So we're rudderless right now. John Kennedy, the Senator from Louisiana,
it's disgusted.
Speaker 5: Well, I watched some of the hearing yesterday. It reminded
me of the of the game room in a mental hospital.
This is not complicated. Illegal ration is illegal. If no
one is above the law, then how come people in
our country illegally are?
Speaker 6: They're not.
Speaker 5: I support enforcing our immigration laws. I think most Americans do. Now,
how you enforce those laws matters. They have to be
enforced in accordance with equal protection, Harris, due process, and
the reasonable suspicion standards set forth and Tarry v. Ohio,
a Supreme Court case. Now, you have the right to protest.
I've seen some of the protesters. I know some of
them are deeply weird. Some of them give off this.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I've got a freezer full of body parts in my
basement vibe. But that's not against the law. You could
be deeply weird of the America. You can protest. What
you can't do is protest violently. That too, is against
them all. And if you protest violently and act like
a money and try to interfere with a cop, it's
not going to end well.
Speaker 1: Even your cocker spaniel knows that. Here's a tip.
Speaker 5: Most cops, including ice officers, will leave you alone unless
you do illegal stuff.
Speaker 1: And that's what all this is about. Yeah, and the
behavior that they're displaying. Most people don't see it. Mostly
you're busy, you're working, you're not watching what's going on
in Congress. But boy, they are really having a meltdown
in that body. That's why they are. And there's a
lot of polling and a lot of talk about the
fact that the Republicans are going to get smashed and
the Democrats are going to do great in the midterms.
I'm not sure that's historically the way it usually goes.
But if you're trying to defund ice and you're also
out there preaching about the fact that you don't want
voter ID voter ID to vote when the polling shows
that it is wildly popular with Democrats, Republicans, and independents,
not even close. And yet a lot of the Democrat
members of Congress are yelling about the fact that they
think it's terrible. I it's too soon to tell, but
I think that a lot of the Democrats are on
the wrong side of the policy issues and their behavior
now is just beyond the pale. It just is beyond
the pale. I mean, John Fetterman, I've told you before,
he's my favorite Democrat. You can predict that he is
also upset.
Speaker 7: I absolutely would expect that it's going to shut down.
I know we the Democrats, we provided I think it
was ten ten kinds of basic things. And then the
Republican pushback quickly saying that that's like a Christmas wish
list and they're non starters.
Speaker 1: So he's betting that the Department Homeland Security will shut
down and go back to Holly. What Senator Hawley said about, well,
that's the Coastguard, that's TSA, that's FEMA.
Speaker 8: So not.
Speaker 1: They're not even good with coming up with good policy.
I've got one that's a good one today. This one
started last night and went out for about eight hours.
There are two stories about what happened at the El
Paso Airport last night and this morning, and one of
them was that there were they were they intercepted some
cartel drones that were coming over the El Paso airport.
If you don't know your geography, El Paso is way
over in the tiny little corner in West Texas, right
on the western Tip. I mean, if you're in El Paso,
you can look across the Rio grand and there's Mexico.
So they're right next to each other but apparently Sean Duffy,
Transportation Secretary, with representatives from the White House and the Pentagon,
insisted that a sudden incursion of drones from Mexican drug
cartels had necessitated a military response, which prompted the FAA
to close the airspace because they were going to use
the military was going to use this high energy laser
technology to intercept and destroy the flying drones. The only
problem is the airplanes that are coming and going from
the El Paso airport would also be subjected to the laser,
which would blow them up. So the FAA immediately shut
down the airspace. All aroun around the whole area around
El Paso. The official in El Paso, the mayor there, said,
you can't just shut down the airspace. We had many
medical evacuation flights that were forced to go to New Mexico,
about forty five miles away from El Passo, over to
the Los Cruises. He went on. He was really upset
about the fact you just can't shut down a community
and not let anybody know that. The Pentagon did this
on their own, and the Pentagon says, we had to
do it, we had no choice. Well, apparently there's another
side to this story, Pete Mundine, who's an aviation guy
at CNN, had this.
Speaker 8: Sudden and so mysterious, But now we know, really taking
the mystery away from all of this, why this went
into place, This huge sweeping airspace restriction, all due to
the Pentagon wanting to use this high energy laser that
can essentially melt. This was not coordinated at least according
to multiple sources, between the Pentagon and the Federal Aviation Administration.
So the FAA essentially had to act unilaterally here, putting
this ten mile no fly zone a ten mile radius
up to eighteen thousand feet was going to last ten days.
That is pretty significant. Never before in modern aviation history
has there been a precedent for something like this. A
lot of people have been comparing this to the airspace
shutdown nationwide on nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: We knew the reason for that, that was obvious.
Speaker 8: This was not very clear, and even some pilots going
into El Paso International Airport last night we're asking on
the radio, why the heck is this going on. I
just want to show you here what is so interesting
about this. The El Paso International Airport is truly pretty
much across the Street from Bigg's Army Airfield and Fort
Bliss there and so it now seems that this high
energy laser was being used at the Army's Fort Bliss,
and the Federal Aviation Administration was straight up concern that
this would pose a risk to civilian flights. This is
not a small airport, by the way. We're talking about
one hundred flights each day. Over that ten day period,
it would have been a thousand flights, so a pretty
big sort of cascading impact. And multiple sources are telling
that this really was put in place. This flight restriction
was put in place to force the Pentagon's hand, and
this is what caught so many people's attention, the use
of deadly force in this notice to airmen, this temporary
flight restriction, because this is something that is not necessarily unusual,
but it's really just the size of this that's so unusual.
And so we're now getting to the bottom of this,
but there's some really big questions here about if the
Pentagon has stopped using this system, if it plans to
stop using the system, and.
Speaker 1: If it used it already.
Speaker 8: Sources telling our Natasha Bertrand and Zach Cohen that the
Pentagon actually used this high energy laser system to target
mylar balloons just before this restriction went into place. We're
talking four milar balloons and that's so critical, and so
you know, it really raises some questions about whether the
military had the ability to what's called iff identify frond
or foe so critical and using something like this, and
so if they sort of lacked the basic knowledge of
this system, you can see why the Federal Aviation Administration
put this in place. All of this explanation, though, that
we're getting from sources really undercuts the White House explanation
here that this was all because of a drug cartel
drone that flew across the Mexican border causing this airspace restriction.
Speaker 1: So s of this afternoon, we don't know what the
truth is. Was it mylar balloons that they were targeting.
And if you're going to target, go do it out
in the desert somewhere where there are not airplanes or
at least yeah, notify the FAA far in advance so
that they don't have commercial airlines is flying into your
high power drones. It's a little bit of a mix
up there, But the military always is testing some of
the latest greatest stuff, because there's always some problem in
the world, and that problem is and has been Iran.
Bebing Net in Yahoo at the White House today meeting
with President Trump. They are talking about what they are
going to do regarding Iran. And here's what the President
had to say before the meeting.
Speaker 9: I know one thing, they want to make a deal.
They wouldn't talk to anybody else, but they're talking to me.
But you know, it's a good question. A lot of
people say no, and I would say that I'd rather
make a deal. It's going to be a good deal.
No nuclear weapons, no missiles, no this, no that, all
the different things that you want.
Speaker 1: But some people worry that.
Speaker 9: They've been very dishonest with us over the years.
Speaker 1: Robert Greenway, who's defense ectionert over at the Heritage Institute,
said it this one.
Speaker 10: Night, Hamberg took the nuclear program off the table. So
the ballistic missile program is all that they've got left.
And that, of course remains a target that both Israel
and the United States, and frankly the region should be
interested in eliminating. And once that happens, Irad is no
longer the principal threat in the region. And we're in
a new Middle East.
Speaker 1: So he's not the only one recommending that we take
out their ballistic missiles. General Jack Keene always we go
to for his ideas well.
Speaker 11: My actions in the meeting is I'm delighted it's taking place,
and it's really quite extraordinary. And President Trump has been
in office thirteen months and he's met with Prime Minister
net seven times in those thirteen months. That is completely
unprecedented to have those kind of meetings. It reminds me
of the Churchill Roosevelt interaction. When Churchill was in the war,
Roosevelt was not. He was providing physical materials support to him,
to be sure, but also moral support and also intellectual
support and how to cope with it. These two men
truly have a relationship of partnerships that's joined by common
interest security of Israel, to be sure, but also stability
and peace in the Middle East, and the fact that
there is an adversary, an enemy there, a diabolical enemy
that wants the destruction of Israel and have had nuclear weapons,
would likely use them. So this has brought them together
time and time again. And I think the results of
this meeting had twofold intent, one set of Prime Minister
to let the President know what his thoughts are about
the negotiations, and certainly I believe he's pretty clear as
our president is. The goal would be no enrichment for
nuclear certainly, reduction of ballistic missiles significantly in numbers, but
also limit the range. And the third thing is no
support for the proxies. Likely AURM will not even agree
to any one of those in any subptom or consequential way.
But I'm sure the Prime Minister wanted to make certain
that the President heard that, and I think the second thing,
in terms of the military option, it probably wanted to
talk to him face to face. Likely somepany is done
on the phone to make sure the President understands what
in an historical opportunity they have here to actually set
the condition for a regime change. It had been seven
presidents before President Trump who had to deal with this regime.
None of them have ever been in this position. And
President Trump is in this position for a number of reasons. One,
he stopped the nuclear deal in twenty eighteen. Two, he
killed cost of Solemony in twenty twenty, the iconic figure
that had so much to do with the death of
Americans from eighty two all the way to just several
years ago prior to his death. And then the third
thing he took action in destroying Ron's nuclear program. Well,
here we are with the next step, which I think
is more likely than not, and that is to finally
take Iran off the board as the destabilizing adversary in
the region and with the potential for finally after forty
six years, to have some stability and enduring peace in
the region. That is the historic opportunity, and I would
imagine both of them would agree with that premise.
Speaker 1: So they're trying. They're trying to create peace in the
Middle East. Somebody is going to want to be the leader.
But Iran has been the number one sponsor of terrorism
around the world. So trying to figure out how to
either get rid of the regime or do something to
make them not the threat that they are. And Nancy
gut Thrie, the search goes on. Yesterday we did the
whole podcast about the breaking news regarding the guy showed
up and they were able to find the video from
her doorbell, which was amazing looking through needle in a haystack.
FBI's ability to do that is just mind boggling. Well,
there's a couple of things. One is, you saw maybe
you saw the video, maybe you saw some still photos.
But what they came up with today was you can
look and see the same guy approaching the porch, and
it's a still photo, and he doesn't have a backpack on,
and he doesn't have the holster hanging off the front
of his pants. So the question is did he come back,
Was he casing the place or did he come back
to the house after he carried Nancy Guthrie out to
a car. We don't know, so there's more questions from that.
And also today Harvey Levin, the guy who started TMZ,
got yet another letter sent him regarding sending some bitcoin.
Speaker 6: So an hour and a half ago we got a
kind of a bizarre letter, an email from somebody who
says they know who the kidnapper is and that they
have tried reaching Savannah's sister Annie and Savannah's brother to
no avail, and they said they want one bitcoin sent
to a bitcoin address that we have confirmed is active.
It's a real bitcoin address, and as they put it,
time is more than relevant. So we have no idea
whether this is real or not, but they are making
a demand. It's interesting that you know, bitcoin's fluctuate in value,
but it's around fifty six thousand dollars now one bitcoin,
which is about the amount that the authorities are off
for information leading to the return of Nancy. So I
don't know if that aligns. But whoever sent this, and
they actually give a name that and an email address,
but whoever sent this is asking for around that amount
via bitcoin for information that they say leads directly to.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like it sounds absolutely like a crank.
By the way, bitcoin about sixty there was down to
fifty a couple of days ago, is now sixty seven
thousand something like that while we're recording here today. But
so the koops are coming out of the out of
the woodwork and wanting one bitcoin to say I know
who the who the kidnapper is the guy yesterday there
was all this activity when we recorded yesterday about the
fact that the SWAT teams were getting in their vehicles
and we're heading out to some place and they thought
they were going to go find something. Well they did
find some buddy. They stopped the guy down in Rio Rico,
which is right, just a hop, skip and a jump
from the Mexican border, about an hour south of Tucson.
So they went down there and they apparently had this
guy in their sights and they made a traffic stop,
which is the safer way to do it than get
somebody out of their home. So they made a traffic
stop on this guy. And as the news went on
last night, it was they have a guy. They detained
a guy for questioning, but they were very careful not
to say that they had arrested him. Well, it turned
out that late in the evening they they released him.
The guy's name is Carlos Palazuelos. He's a delivery driver
for door Dash here he is. Are you ever up
in Tucson? Yeah, I work in Tucson.
Speaker 10: What do you do, Gils?
Speaker 1: There are packages? Okay? Do you think you might have
delivered a package to Nancy got through South?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 1: Might have been a possibility to I don't know. Did
they ever did they indicate that you might have been
on her property? You're not sure. No, they just came
up until right now.
Speaker 6: All I know is that they show me my in
law a picture of somebody wearing a mask or something,
and they supposedly look like my eyes.
Speaker 1: So that's it. I mean they I'm sure haven't totally
written him, you know, crossed him off the list. He
looks his eyes looked like the guy's eyes under the mask.
And his in laws, I wonder how that's going. His
in laws were the ones that called the police and said, hey,
our son in law looks just like this guy. So
he was released because they don't have any He drives
for door Dash, and he did not know if he
was on Nancy Guthrie's property or not. It's just like yesterday,
I told you. In the middle of all this, all
of a sudden, the guy pulls up, gets out of
his car and goes up to the porch of Nancy Guthries's.
The police are all around the place, the media is
all out on the street. It was the pizza delivery guy.
One of the media people had ordered pizza. So these
guys that are ordering that are delivering pizza and delivering
door Dash, they're busy working. They're not paying any attention
to all of this and whose house it is or
anything else. Back to this question about the photograph of
the bad guy without the backpack and the gun, and
then later he has a backpack and a gun. Paul
Mora waited on it.
Speaker 12: Well, I wish I had a more dispositive answer for you.
But my read, of course, is that he showed up
initially in the video that we've all seen. That seems
to be the first approach, because that's when he first
seems to notice that nest camera, and that's the point
where he's bringing all kinds of things in. He's got
that very loaded backpack. It's very different from let's say,
a burglar who would normally show up with an empty
backpack to take things out. So it argues that he
had a particular plan for what was going to go
on inside that home. We assume an abduction, but we
don't know that could have developed, and then at some
point he must have gone out and come back in.
He was loading something into the car. Doesn't necessarily mean Nancy,
but very clearly he made more than one trip, it
seems to me, from inside the house, back to the
car and back in. We do know that he was
at the scene for at least forty one minutes. That's
a pretty hard metric, so that's a lot of time
to do all of this stuff, but it's also the
opportunity for him to have potentially left hopefully some DNA
or some other clue here that's going to ultimately identify him.
You know, I hesitate to read too much into that,
you know this positive statements like well it's a cheap holster,
but an expensive gun. That gun doesn't go to that holster.
Who knows how it developed. I've had spoken to some
of the local sourcing out here. Apparently there is a
thing that sometimes guys driving put the gun in the
opposite side like that because they can reach across if
they need. Arizona is an open Carrie state. Obviously, it's
going to be something that you look at very hard.
There are people who know a lot more about guns
than I do, who I am sure scraping at this
to try to identify the gun. There are a number
of identifiable things in that image, right down to what
he's wearing. You know, I've seen images that seemed to
show the actual sweatshirt that he's wearing.
Speaker 1: And then you can get into purchase history.
Speaker 12: Let's remember that's how the FBI solved the case of
the DC bomber that we had recently that was nascent
and and dormant, I should say for four years. It
was purchase history and it got down to where he
bought the batteries years ago. So if you can do that,
my gut tells me that they're going to be able
to do a lot with what you can see in
this video.
Speaker 1: So speaking of that holster, I heard one of the
law enforcement experts talking about the Holster and he called
it a Howdy doty Holster, and I'm thinking I kind
of laughed because I thought, how many people you have
to be a certain vintage to know what what? Who?
Howdy Duty was a mat Alona how do doty Holster
to that I think I had when I was in
like the first grade. I think I had a little
cowboys set, and I think the I think my holsters had.
Two of them were sorry, but I think they were
Howdy Doty. I think they were Howdy Duty. So he
was a cartoon character back in the day children's program.
But I don't think anybody knows about how the Duty
unless you're, like I said, at a certain age. Mark.
I'm sorry. Mike Easter, he's a former FBI guy. He
works in the cellular area where they go track down
the cellular signals.
Speaker 3: I think that the timeframe was reasonable and I say
that because you have to remember, as your previous conversation was,
bits and byees take time to uncover those artifacts. But
also you have to remember there's due process for US
or for the FBI, and that partnership with these private entities,
then we have to overcome their privacy rights. And once
you start getting into those areas where the lawyers get involved,
it does create a delay, and that's unfortunate, but it's
just the reality of the situation. Sometimes we can operate
pretty quickly in the exigency of the matter. But I
would imagine that due to a large level of privacy
of accessing that server by the government and even probably
assistance from private experts, that they needed to go through
the appropriate legal channels, and I believe cash or Director
ptael I Apologize actually mentioned that in his address that
they went through legal process. The significance of understanding the
cellular network is the importance of knowing what access points, phones,
or even vehicles in that area would be connected to
for service. So then we are cast I'm not there anymore.
They can go and then exploit those sites for digital
evidence of phones and other mobile devices to include cars.
Speaker 1: So I don't understand why the cellular stuff hasn't been
talked about more, because I understand if you're trying to
capture every car that is driving through the middle of
most major cities, it's going to be a long list
of trying to track down who all those cars were.
But if you're in the suburbs of Tucson at two
o'clock on a Sunday morning, how many cars can there be?
I would think he would be limited. So I'm puzzled
by also reporters asking about is that it Oh my gosh,
we're at the end of the investigative clues. I'm thinking,
oh my gosh, there's got to be a ton more,
especially now that they've released the photos and the video.
And I believe Chris Tarbell from the FBI agrees with
me on this.
Speaker 13: I don't think they're at a dead end. I have
plenty of leads to go on, So yeah, I agree
with Harvey that they probably if this was well thought out,
he probably would have disabled the camera even from across
the street. You know, a well placed laser is going
to burn out the lens on that camera, or even physically,
you know, shooting at it with a pelly gun or
something like that's going to disable that camera. So maybe
maybe it was a surprise once he got up there
and saw it. But I mean there's plenty of other
leads going on, you know, from the clothing to the
holster to cell phone tower pings. I'm sure the FBI
is running down all these leads. So I mean, think
about just traveling around. You're in New York, You're hitting
you know, one hundred towers a day. We're gonna the
number of cell phones hitting these towers and triangulating.
Speaker 1: Take some time.
Speaker 13: The FBI is good at that though, and we've been
doing it for a long long time. And so they're
going to comb through and they're going to find people
that in the area around this time, and then maybe
people in the area beforehand and sort of build a
pattern of life of people in the area, and then
we can take out residents and go through the misses
that way. But there's a lot of data to come
through on.
Speaker 1: This, Yeah, so they'll find something, they'll find some clue
that will be the big breakout. There are other people
also talking about if the FBI found this digital data
from the porch yesterday, there's got to be more. And
the cameras are inside. Plus they've got cameras. They keep
talking about a circle K that's close by. That's the
gas station on a busy intersection. They'll be watching, apparently,
checking every car that went by there. So there's a
lot more to go for that Wall Street today. Like
I told you, it was not much going on. Let's
see Dow Jones industrials, Well, they bounced around a little
bit on the on the downside and then the upside
of it was no real direction. Dow down sixty seven
to close at fifty one, the S and P down
just part of a point, Nasdaq down thirty six points.
Gold was up eighty two dollars to five thousand, one twelve,
and oil up more than a dollar, the highest I've
seen for a while, sixty five dollars and some change
for a barrel of oil. That's it for today. Thank
you for coming by. We will be back again tomorrow.
Hope I'll see you there.