1 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,719 Speaker 1: And hello, Hi, how are you welcome to the Big 2 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,799 Podcast on this Wednesday. Today is the eleventh day of February, 3 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Year of Our Lord, two thousand and twenty six. My 4 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,479 name is Tom Sullivan. So we have you know yesterday 5 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,280 the new everything blew up and everybody was on the 6 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,240 hot and heavy on the search for Nancy Guthrie, and 7 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:53,200 the video came out and so it was it was 8 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,280 taking all the focus. I'll give you an update on 9 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:02,039 how that's going. They're still searching for they haven't made 10 00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:07,959 any arrest, but there's some interesting experts talking about the investigation. 11 00:01:08,079 --> 00:01:10,840 That will play for you. But I want it. We've 12 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:13,560 got a lot of other things to get to. Let me. 13 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,959 Let me start with what came out this morning. A 14 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,760 thirty in the morning Eastern time. Labor Department comes up, 15 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,519 I'm sorry, Bureau of Labor Statistics comes out with their 16 00:01:25,879 --> 00:01:29,200 monthly jobs report. It's the first Friday of every month. 17 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,400 And you're going, it's not the first Friday. Tommy just 18 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,680 said it was Wednesday. Yeah, that's because it was supposed 19 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:39,480 to come out the first Friday, but because of the 20 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:44,319 latest government shutdown, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said, we 21 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:48,799 don't have the we don't have the data. So we 22 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,359 got the information out today and I'll give you I'll 23 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:57,439 give you just the data, and you decide whether you 24 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:01,719 think this makes sense or not. I'm having trouble with it. 25 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,239 Let me put it that way. So economists surveyed Wall 26 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,400 Street Journal does a big group of a twenty some 27 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:14,080 economists from banks, from universities, from think tanks, and from 28 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:19,360 all over the place, a diversified group. And those economists said, well, 29 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,199 we think payrolls, labor, labor is everybody's watching it closely. 30 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,879 Is it starting to lose its strength? Is there a 31 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,680 crack in the labor market? Well, economist said, looked like, 32 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,840 we think fifty five thousand payrolls were added in the 33 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:44,400 month of January. And then Goldn Sachs came out and said, yeah, 34 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:47,000 that sounds a little high. He was how about forty 35 00:02:47,039 --> 00:02:53,960 five thousand. So instead they came out with oh, and 36 00:02:54,120 --> 00:03:01,280 City Bank they're economists said because of seasonal distortions, they 37 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,840 think that it will be closer to zero. So when 38 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:09,159 the Bureau of Labor Statistics announced the jobs report this morning, 39 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:11,400 they said, yeah, it was one hundred and thirty thousand 40 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,800 payrolls added. Last month. That was double what even some 41 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,719 of the most generous estimates were. Where they came up 42 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:24,840 with this, I don't know. They had to delay reports 43 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:28,000 the report because of the fact that they didn't have 44 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,400 the collection process working during the month of December because 45 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:37,800 of the shutdown. So well, the first print is one 46 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:42,400 hundred and thirty thousand payrolls were added twice as much 47 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,719 as had been estimated. The unemployment rate dropped from four 48 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:55,800 point four down to four point three. The number of 49 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,479 people that have been long term unemployed at the U 50 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,000 six eight percent. That's down from eight point four. So 51 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,080 that went the right direction. But when you take a 52 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:13,240 look at the annual benchmark revision they do it every January, 53 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:19,439 they decided, well, last year, the number of jobs added 54 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:24,240 last year was overstated by one million, twenty nine thousand, 55 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,560 huge miss on the on the jobs reports for the 56 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:33,560 year of twenty twenty five. So they said, yeah, there's 57 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,360 a million, one hundred and fifty eight million people working, 58 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,519 and previously they had estimated to be over one hundred 59 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:44,360 and fifty nine million, so they had to adjust with 60 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:50,279 the annual benchmark revision dropped by a million twenty nine thousand, 61 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:53,839 So that's why I go. I don't know about these numbers, 62 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:59,399 but everybody says you've got to rely upon these average 63 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:05,040 hourly earn It's up three point seven percent. That's better 64 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:09,480 than inflation. Inflation is running just a little under three. 65 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,120 Participation rate went up to sixty two point five. That's 66 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,000 all good. But if I can bring you back to 67 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:20,480 a report that oh and let me go back. They 68 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,759 also did the revisions. They revised not only the annual 69 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,600 bench parking revision, but they also revised the monthly reports. 70 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,079 In November, they reduced that to payrolls of only forty 71 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:39,360 one thousand. December revised to payrolls of only forty eight thousand. 72 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,480 So forty one thousand November, forty eight thousand December. The 73 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,920 asttimaut was fifty five thousand, and instead we come up 74 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:52,240 with one hundred and thirty thousand. I'm going to basically 75 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,560 brace yourself for this number is not good. They're going 76 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,360 to make a major revision to it. Remember, just a 77 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:02,120 couple of weeks ago, the big company that keeps track 78 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,639 of everything regarding the labor market challenges are Gray and Christmas. 79 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,439 They've been around forever, and they said that in the 80 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,160 month of January. This is the report we're getting today. 81 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,680 But they said in the month of January there was 82 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,439 one hundred and eight thousand layoffs, which was the highest 83 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,240 January total since two thousand and nine during the Great Recession. 84 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,040 So I give you the I'll give you the numbers, 85 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,399 but I'm just telling you this labor market is a 86 00:06:33,399 --> 00:06:37,519 big question mark, and the FED takes a very close 87 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:40,040 look at the labor market to determine what to do 88 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:46,399 with interest rates. When you take a look around federal 89 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:49,759 government federal government jobs, we know that the DOGE came 90 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:55,399 in and whacked those the government. Federal government workers peaked 91 00:06:55,439 --> 00:07:01,079 in October of twenty twenty four, and it has declined 92 00:07:01,399 --> 00:07:05,680 three hundred and twenty seven thousand jobs working at the 93 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,600 US government since then, about eleven percent drop. So we 94 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,439 have we have a lot of at one point eight 95 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,240 million people are long term unemployed. That's about twenty five 96 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:22,879 percent of all the unemployed people out there. So that's 97 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,279 the jobs report was a big deal this morning and 98 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,639 Wall Street the bond market did not go crazy, but 99 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,839 it changed a little bit. But the market today was 100 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:38,000 all said and done, was down just a little bit, 101 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:41,560 not much of a change. So We'll take what we can. 102 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,839 Retail sales also, you've got to be careful here because 103 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,879 retail sales, they said, well, well, by the way this 104 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:55,279 goes back, this is the December number, and it was 105 00:07:55,519 --> 00:08:06,319 essentially flat unchanged. Retail sales in December unchanged, So that's 106 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,279 the seasonally adjusted number, but when you take out the 107 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,240 seasonal adjustments, it hit a record high. So I don't 108 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:17,680 know if retail sales did well or did not do well, 109 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,360 but if you do the seasonal adjustments, it was flat 110 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:25,240 as a pancake. What else do we have today? Oh 111 00:08:25,319 --> 00:08:31,040 my gosh, they've been doing these hearings in Washington that 112 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:37,559 are just an embarrassment to everybody today. They drug Pam 113 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:42,879 Bondy bonding in as the Attorney generalman before this committee, 114 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:45,799 and just you knew what was going to happen. The 115 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:49,080 Democrats were all going to just hit her with bows 116 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,200 and arrows, and they did, and she's, you know, snarked 117 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:56,200 right back at them. It was embarrassing. I thought it 118 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:03,919 was absolutely terrible. John Kennedy talking about these hearings and 119 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,919 about the funding for the Department of Homeland Security. Remember 120 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,519 they're supposed to that's the only part that wasn't agreed 121 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,240 to be funded. And if they don't fund that, well, 122 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,960 Senator Hawley from Missouri said, well, here's some of the 123 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,720 things that will not be funded if they don't get that. 124 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:26,120 DHS funding put through. 125 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Coastguard doesn't get funded, TSA doesn't get funded, FEMA doesn't 126 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,639 get funded. So if you're an area like in my 127 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:34,200 state we had terrible tornadoes, we're due for a whole 128 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,919 bunch of FEMA belief, none of it will come. If 129 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,600 you're trying to travel, Good luck to you because TSA 130 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,600 isn't going to be operating. 131 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: ICE will not be defunded. 132 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: If this doesn't pass, all of those other things that 133 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,519 the American people depend on will be. 134 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: We brought this up, but apparently the people in Congress 135 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,559 don't know this. DHS, the funding for ICE has already 136 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,600 been done and they're funded through twenty twenty nine. But 137 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,360 the Day Democrats in the House are really mad and 138 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,480 have to do something about ICE because the far left 139 00:10:06,519 --> 00:10:10,240 wing of the party is very upset and they want 140 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:16,000 them to defund ICE. So defunding ICE is kind of 141 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,360 out of the same paragraph. Isn't it that the Democrats 142 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:25,519 were going around back in twenty twenty going defund police, 143 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,000 and you know how that worked out for their party. 144 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:35,200 Al Motor, who is a Democrat strategist, talking about not 145 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,240 only the fact that the defund police message, but he's 146 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:43,159 also reacting to In New Jersey yesterday they had a 147 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:49,120 special election to fill the empty seat of Mikey Sheryl, 148 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:52,720 who was elected governor of New Jersey. So a woman 149 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:58,159 by the name of the Anna Lita Mahea. She is 150 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:02,519 a far left Democrat and guests who won she did, 151 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,679 I mean, she's really far left. So this guy, Alma 152 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,840 Tour is a big Democrat strategist in the state of 153 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:10,480 New Jersey. 154 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: He's a Democrat. Listen to his reaction you alluded to. 155 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:17,559 You live near there and understand the politics quite well. 156 00:11:17,639 --> 00:11:22,679 And this is about a leftward lurch amongst some in 157 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,960 my party, including Ken Martin, who just showed a clip 158 00:11:27,039 --> 00:11:31,960 of who are pushing a more leftist agenda in the 159 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:36,039 rhetoric of fighting Trump. Well, elections are about local issues. 160 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,519 As you said, I think that this district is pretty liberal, 161 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,080 and so she's likely to prevail, and the squad is 162 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,840 going to have another member, which is not good for 163 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:48,519 our national politics. Why not, it's not good because I mean, 164 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,960 not only is she anti Israel, she wants to abolish ICE. 165 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,000 ICE has done some horrible things in Minnesota, but ICE 166 00:11:56,039 --> 00:11:58,320 also does lots of good things every day around the country. 167 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:01,120 They shouldn't be abolished, they should be formed, and they 168 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:04,960 ought to have monitoring and oversight like any law enforcement group. 169 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,399 We shouldn't abolished them, just like we shouldn't have abolished 170 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:09,519 the police five years ago. Look where that got our party. 171 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:12,200 We're starting to get back into that stupid rhetoric and 172 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:14,639 it's not going to help us Sun the national scene. 173 00:12:14,759 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't sound happy, does he. And he's a 174 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:19,960 Democrat and it was a Democrat versus the Democrat. But 175 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:23,600 the far left, what do you call her? The proberbly 176 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:25,960 The new member of the squad has been elected, and 177 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,240 so today was a meltdown. Yesterday was a meltdown in 178 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,039 these congressional hearings. I'm telling you that their children would 179 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:36,440 do better than the behavior that we've seen in Congress. 180 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,759 So we're rudderless right now. John Kennedy, the Senator from Louisiana, 181 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:44,919 it's disgusted. 182 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,039 Speaker 5: Well, I watched some of the hearing yesterday. It reminded 183 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,799 me of the of the game room in a mental hospital. 184 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:03,559 This is not complicated. Illegal ration is illegal. If no 185 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,879 one is above the law, then how come people in 186 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,559 our country illegally are? 187 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:10,879 Speaker 6: They're not. 188 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 5: I support enforcing our immigration laws. I think most Americans do. Now, 189 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:21,639 how you enforce those laws matters. They have to be 190 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,559 enforced in accordance with equal protection, Harris, due process, and 191 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,720 the reasonable suspicion standards set forth and Tarry v. Ohio, 192 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,120 a Supreme Court case. Now, you have the right to protest. 193 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,200 I've seen some of the protesters. I know some of 194 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:46,279 them are deeply weird. Some of them give off this. 195 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:48,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. 196 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 5: I've got a freezer full of body parts in my 197 00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:56,480 basement vibe. But that's not against the law. You could 198 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:59,200 be deeply weird of the America. You can protest. What 199 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,159 you can't do is protest violently. That too, is against 200 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:06,960 them all. And if you protest violently and act like 201 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:10,559 a money and try to interfere with a cop, it's 202 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:11,679 not going to end well. 203 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: Even your cocker spaniel knows that. Here's a tip. 204 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,279 Speaker 5: Most cops, including ice officers, will leave you alone unless 205 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,840 you do illegal stuff. 206 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: And that's what all this is about. Yeah, and the 207 00:14:25,919 --> 00:14:29,440 behavior that they're displaying. Most people don't see it. Mostly 208 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:31,799 you're busy, you're working, you're not watching what's going on 209 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:36,440 in Congress. But boy, they are really having a meltdown 210 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,919 in that body. That's why they are. And there's a 211 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,519 lot of polling and a lot of talk about the 212 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,080 fact that the Republicans are going to get smashed and 213 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:48,759 the Democrats are going to do great in the midterms. 214 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,960 I'm not sure that's historically the way it usually goes. 215 00:14:54,879 --> 00:14:58,240 But if you're trying to defund ice and you're also 216 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,600 out there preaching about the fact that you don't want 217 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:07,279 voter ID voter ID to vote when the polling shows 218 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,799 that it is wildly popular with Democrats, Republicans, and independents, 219 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:15,159 not even close. And yet a lot of the Democrat 220 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:18,960 members of Congress are yelling about the fact that they 221 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:24,279 think it's terrible. I it's too soon to tell, but 222 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,720 I think that a lot of the Democrats are on 223 00:15:27,799 --> 00:15:32,320 the wrong side of the policy issues and their behavior 224 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,600 now is just beyond the pale. It just is beyond 225 00:15:37,639 --> 00:15:41,759 the pale. I mean, John Fetterman, I've told you before, 226 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:46,320 he's my favorite Democrat. You can predict that he is 227 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,480 also upset. 228 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,519 Speaker 7: I absolutely would expect that it's going to shut down. 229 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,559 I know we the Democrats, we provided I think it 230 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,960 was ten ten kinds of basic things. And then the 231 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:01,480 Republican pushback quickly saying that that's like a Christmas wish 232 00:16:01,559 --> 00:16:03,639 list and they're non starters. 233 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: So he's betting that the Department Homeland Security will shut 234 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:13,039 down and go back to Holly. What Senator Hawley said about, well, 235 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,720 that's the Coastguard, that's TSA, that's FEMA. 236 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 8: So not. 237 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:25,159 Speaker 1: They're not even good with coming up with good policy. 238 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:28,080 I've got one that's a good one today. This one 239 00:16:28,879 --> 00:16:33,080 started last night and went out for about eight hours. 240 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,200 There are two stories about what happened at the El 241 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Paso Airport last night and this morning, and one of 242 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:47,960 them was that there were they were they intercepted some 243 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:52,320 cartel drones that were coming over the El Paso airport. 244 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,679 If you don't know your geography, El Paso is way 245 00:16:56,279 --> 00:16:59,919 over in the tiny little corner in West Texas, right 246 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:04,279 on the western Tip. I mean, if you're in El Paso, 247 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,000 you can look across the Rio grand and there's Mexico. 248 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,200 So they're right next to each other but apparently Sean Duffy, 249 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,119 Transportation Secretary, with representatives from the White House and the Pentagon, 250 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,359 insisted that a sudden incursion of drones from Mexican drug 251 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:30,920 cartels had necessitated a military response, which prompted the FAA 252 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,319 to close the airspace because they were going to use 253 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,839 the military was going to use this high energy laser 254 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:43,839 technology to intercept and destroy the flying drones. The only 255 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,799 problem is the airplanes that are coming and going from 256 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,000 the El Paso airport would also be subjected to the laser, 257 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:57,559 which would blow them up. So the FAA immediately shut 258 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,480 down the airspace. All aroun around the whole area around 259 00:18:01,559 --> 00:18:06,160 El Paso. The official in El Paso, the mayor there, said, 260 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,599 you can't just shut down the airspace. We had many 261 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:14,799 medical evacuation flights that were forced to go to New Mexico, 262 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:17,839 about forty five miles away from El Passo, over to 263 00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:20,920 the Los Cruises. He went on. He was really upset 264 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,680 about the fact you just can't shut down a community 265 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,279 and not let anybody know that. The Pentagon did this 266 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,839 on their own, and the Pentagon says, we had to 267 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,079 do it, we had no choice. Well, apparently there's another 268 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,400 side to this story, Pete Mundine, who's an aviation guy 269 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:42,720 at CNN, had this. 270 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,319 Speaker 8: Sudden and so mysterious, But now we know, really taking 271 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,880 the mystery away from all of this, why this went 272 00:18:50,039 --> 00:18:54,440 into place, This huge sweeping airspace restriction, all due to 273 00:18:54,519 --> 00:18:57,759 the Pentagon wanting to use this high energy laser that 274 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:03,799 can essentially melt. This was not coordinated at least according 275 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:07,680 to multiple sources, between the Pentagon and the Federal Aviation Administration. 276 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:11,599 So the FAA essentially had to act unilaterally here, putting 277 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,960 this ten mile no fly zone a ten mile radius 278 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 up to eighteen thousand feet was going to last ten days. 279 00:19:20,079 --> 00:19:25,720 That is pretty significant. Never before in modern aviation history 280 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:28,079 has there been a precedent for something like this. A 281 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,519 lot of people have been comparing this to the airspace 282 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:32,079 shutdown nationwide on nine to eleven. 283 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: We knew the reason for that, that was obvious. 284 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 8: This was not very clear, and even some pilots going 285 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,119 into El Paso International Airport last night we're asking on 286 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,920 the radio, why the heck is this going on. I 287 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:44,000 just want to show you here what is so interesting 288 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:47,799 about this. The El Paso International Airport is truly pretty 289 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,640 much across the Street from Bigg's Army Airfield and Fort 290 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,440 Bliss there and so it now seems that this high 291 00:19:56,599 --> 00:20:00,400 energy laser was being used at the Army's Fort Bliss, 292 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:04,160 and the Federal Aviation Administration was straight up concern that 293 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,000 this would pose a risk to civilian flights. This is 294 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:09,319 not a small airport, by the way. We're talking about 295 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:12,599 one hundred flights each day. Over that ten day period, 296 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:14,240 it would have been a thousand flights, so a pretty 297 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,799 big sort of cascading impact. And multiple sources are telling 298 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,279 that this really was put in place. This flight restriction 299 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,680 was put in place to force the Pentagon's hand, and 300 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:28,599 this is what caught so many people's attention, the use 301 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,279 of deadly force in this notice to airmen, this temporary 302 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:38,839 flight restriction, because this is something that is not necessarily unusual, 303 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,039 but it's really just the size of this that's so unusual. 304 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,400 And so we're now getting to the bottom of this, 305 00:20:44,599 --> 00:20:46,720 but there's some really big questions here about if the 306 00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:49,000 Pentagon has stopped using this system, if it plans to 307 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:50,519 stop using the system, and. 308 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: If it used it already. 309 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,519 Speaker 8: Sources telling our Natasha Bertrand and Zach Cohen that the 310 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:59,920 Pentagon actually used this high energy laser system to target 311 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,000 mylar balloons just before this restriction went into place. We're 312 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,240 talking four milar balloons and that's so critical, and so 313 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,960 you know, it really raises some questions about whether the 314 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:13,680 military had the ability to what's called iff identify frond 315 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,880 or foe so critical and using something like this, and 316 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,880 so if they sort of lacked the basic knowledge of 317 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:24,079 this system, you can see why the Federal Aviation Administration 318 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,200 put this in place. All of this explanation, though, that 319 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,000 we're getting from sources really undercuts the White House explanation 320 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,079 here that this was all because of a drug cartel 321 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:40,400 drone that flew across the Mexican border causing this airspace restriction. 322 00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:44,079 Speaker 1: So s of this afternoon, we don't know what the 323 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,400 truth is. Was it mylar balloons that they were targeting. 324 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,680 And if you're going to target, go do it out 325 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,799 in the desert somewhere where there are not airplanes or 326 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,839 at least yeah, notify the FAA far in advance so 327 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,839 that they don't have commercial airlines is flying into your 328 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,359 high power drones. It's a little bit of a mix 329 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,640 up there, But the military always is testing some of 330 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,039 the latest greatest stuff, because there's always some problem in 331 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,079 the world, and that problem is and has been Iran. 332 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:21,359 Bebing Net in Yahoo at the White House today meeting 333 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,359 with President Trump. They are talking about what they are 334 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,319 going to do regarding Iran. And here's what the President 335 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,079 had to say before the meeting. 336 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 9: I know one thing, they want to make a deal. 337 00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:38,119 They wouldn't talk to anybody else, but they're talking to me. 338 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:41,000 But you know, it's a good question. A lot of 339 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,839 people say no, and I would say that I'd rather 340 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,960 make a deal. It's going to be a good deal. 341 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,200 No nuclear weapons, no missiles, no this, no that, all 342 00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:51,519 the different things that you want. 343 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: But some people worry that. 344 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 9: They've been very dishonest with us over the years. 345 00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: Robert Greenway, who's defense ectionert over at the Heritage Institute, 346 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,799 said it this one. 347 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 10: Night, Hamberg took the nuclear program off the table. So 348 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,039 the ballistic missile program is all that they've got left. 349 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,240 And that, of course remains a target that both Israel 350 00:23:13,279 --> 00:23:15,240 and the United States, and frankly the region should be 351 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:18,160 interested in eliminating. And once that happens, Irad is no 352 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:20,000 longer the principal threat in the region. And we're in 353 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,720 a new Middle East. 354 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: So he's not the only one recommending that we take 355 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,079 out their ballistic missiles. General Jack Keene always we go 356 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,880 to for his ideas well. 357 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 11: My actions in the meeting is I'm delighted it's taking place, 358 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:35,920 and it's really quite extraordinary. And President Trump has been 359 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,400 in office thirteen months and he's met with Prime Minister 360 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,240 net seven times in those thirteen months. That is completely 361 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,039 unprecedented to have those kind of meetings. It reminds me 362 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:53,240 of the Churchill Roosevelt interaction. When Churchill was in the war, 363 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,119 Roosevelt was not. He was providing physical materials support to him, 364 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,920 to be sure, but also moral support and also intellectual 365 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,599 support and how to cope with it. These two men 366 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,480 truly have a relationship of partnerships that's joined by common 367 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:12,839 interest security of Israel, to be sure, but also stability 368 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,119 and peace in the Middle East, and the fact that 369 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,599 there is an adversary, an enemy there, a diabolical enemy 370 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,920 that wants the destruction of Israel and have had nuclear weapons, 371 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,279 would likely use them. So this has brought them together 372 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,240 time and time again. And I think the results of 373 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:34,519 this meeting had twofold intent, one set of Prime Minister 374 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:37,880 to let the President know what his thoughts are about 375 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:43,359 the negotiations, and certainly I believe he's pretty clear as 376 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,519 our president is. The goal would be no enrichment for 377 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:53,079 nuclear certainly, reduction of ballistic missiles significantly in numbers, but 378 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,559 also limit the range. And the third thing is no 379 00:24:56,759 --> 00:25:02,160 support for the proxies. Likely AURM will not even agree 380 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,960 to any one of those in any subptom or consequential way. 381 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,680 But I'm sure the Prime Minister wanted to make certain 382 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,000 that the President heard that, and I think the second thing, 383 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,519 in terms of the military option, it probably wanted to 384 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:19,039 talk to him face to face. Likely somepany is done 385 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,960 on the phone to make sure the President understands what 386 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:26,559 in an historical opportunity they have here to actually set 387 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,799 the condition for a regime change. It had been seven 388 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:34,119 presidents before President Trump who had to deal with this regime. 389 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:36,640 None of them have ever been in this position. And 390 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,599 President Trump is in this position for a number of reasons. One, 391 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:43,880 he stopped the nuclear deal in twenty eighteen. Two, he 392 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:48,160 killed cost of Solemony in twenty twenty, the iconic figure 393 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,599 that had so much to do with the death of 394 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,160 Americans from eighty two all the way to just several 395 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:55,839 years ago prior to his death. And then the third 396 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,079 thing he took action in destroying Ron's nuclear program. Well, 397 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,160 here we are with the next step, which I think 398 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:06,720 is more likely than not, and that is to finally 399 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:11,200 take Iran off the board as the destabilizing adversary in 400 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:17,079 the region and with the potential for finally after forty 401 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,799 six years, to have some stability and enduring peace in 402 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:25,240 the region. That is the historic opportunity, and I would 403 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:28,759 imagine both of them would agree with that premise. 404 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,319 Speaker 1: So they're trying. They're trying to create peace in the 405 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,279 Middle East. Somebody is going to want to be the leader. 406 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,079 But Iran has been the number one sponsor of terrorism 407 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,240 around the world. So trying to figure out how to 408 00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:45,880 either get rid of the regime or do something to 409 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,839 make them not the threat that they are. And Nancy 410 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,960 gut Thrie, the search goes on. Yesterday we did the 411 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,519 whole podcast about the breaking news regarding the guy showed 412 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:04,480 up and they were able to find the video from 413 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:08,960 her doorbell, which was amazing looking through needle in a haystack. 414 00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:14,119 FBI's ability to do that is just mind boggling. Well, 415 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:17,319 there's a couple of things. One is, you saw maybe 416 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,079 you saw the video, maybe you saw some still photos. 417 00:27:20,519 --> 00:27:22,920 But what they came up with today was you can 418 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:28,240 look and see the same guy approaching the porch, and 419 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,880 it's a still photo, and he doesn't have a backpack on, 420 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,160 and he doesn't have the holster hanging off the front 421 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,920 of his pants. So the question is did he come back, 422 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:44,240 Was he casing the place or did he come back 423 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:47,519 to the house after he carried Nancy Guthrie out to 424 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,160 a car. We don't know, so there's more questions from that. 425 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,680 And also today Harvey Levin, the guy who started TMZ, 426 00:27:56,559 --> 00:28:03,440 got yet another letter sent him regarding sending some bitcoin. 427 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,559 Speaker 6: So an hour and a half ago we got a 428 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,519 kind of a bizarre letter, an email from somebody who 429 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,200 says they know who the kidnapper is and that they 430 00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:22,079 have tried reaching Savannah's sister Annie and Savannah's brother to 431 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,519 no avail, and they said they want one bitcoin sent 432 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,759 to a bitcoin address that we have confirmed is active. 433 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:37,319 It's a real bitcoin address, and as they put it, 434 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,720 time is more than relevant. So we have no idea 435 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,960 whether this is real or not, but they are making 436 00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:51,000 a demand. It's interesting that you know, bitcoin's fluctuate in value, 437 00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:55,319 but it's around fifty six thousand dollars now one bitcoin, 438 00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:59,920 which is about the amount that the authorities are off 439 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,839 for information leading to the return of Nancy. So I 440 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,200 don't know if that aligns. But whoever sent this, and 441 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,720 they actually give a name that and an email address, 442 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,400 but whoever sent this is asking for around that amount 443 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,160 via bitcoin for information that they say leads directly to. 444 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,799 Speaker 1: So it sounds like it sounds absolutely like a crank. 445 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,640 By the way, bitcoin about sixty there was down to 446 00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,960 fifty a couple of days ago, is now sixty seven 447 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:36,759 thousand something like that while we're recording here today. But 448 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,359 so the koops are coming out of the out of 449 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640 the woodwork and wanting one bitcoin to say I know 450 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,599 who the who the kidnapper is the guy yesterday there 451 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,400 was all this activity when we recorded yesterday about the 452 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,559 fact that the SWAT teams were getting in their vehicles 453 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,720 and we're heading out to some place and they thought 454 00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:59,400 they were going to go find something. Well they did 455 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:03,680 find some buddy. They stopped the guy down in Rio Rico, 456 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,319 which is right, just a hop, skip and a jump 457 00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:10,359 from the Mexican border, about an hour south of Tucson. 458 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:14,319 So they went down there and they apparently had this 459 00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:17,720 guy in their sights and they made a traffic stop, 460 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,200 which is the safer way to do it than get 461 00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:22,640 somebody out of their home. So they made a traffic 462 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,160 stop on this guy. And as the news went on 463 00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:28,880 last night, it was they have a guy. They detained 464 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,200 a guy for questioning, but they were very careful not 465 00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:35,319 to say that they had arrested him. Well, it turned 466 00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:39,480 out that late in the evening they they released him. 467 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:47,240 The guy's name is Carlos Palazuelos. He's a delivery driver 468 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,039 for door Dash here he is. Are you ever up 469 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:52,640 in Tucson? Yeah, I work in Tucson. 470 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 10: What do you do, Gils? 471 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,039 Speaker 1: There are packages? Okay? Do you think you might have 472 00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:57,759 delivered a package to Nancy got through South? 473 00:30:58,039 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 11: Oh? 474 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: Might have been a possibility to I don't know. Did 475 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,160 they ever did they indicate that you might have been 476 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,960 on her property? You're not sure. No, they just came 477 00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,599 up until right now. 478 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 6: All I know is that they show me my in 479 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,279 law a picture of somebody wearing a mask or something, 480 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,480 and they supposedly look like my eyes. 481 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: So that's it. I mean they I'm sure haven't totally 482 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,279 written him, you know, crossed him off the list. He 483 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:29,160 looks his eyes looked like the guy's eyes under the mask. 484 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,039 And his in laws, I wonder how that's going. His 485 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,559 in laws were the ones that called the police and said, hey, 486 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,799 our son in law looks just like this guy. So 487 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:44,119 he was released because they don't have any He drives 488 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960 for door Dash, and he did not know if he 489 00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:51,359 was on Nancy Guthrie's property or not. It's just like yesterday, 490 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680 I told you. In the middle of all this, all 491 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,000 of a sudden, the guy pulls up, gets out of 492 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:59,920 his car and goes up to the porch of Nancy Guthries's. 493 00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:02,559 The police are all around the place, the media is 494 00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:05,200 all out on the street. It was the pizza delivery guy. 495 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:09,319 One of the media people had ordered pizza. So these 496 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,480 guys that are ordering that are delivering pizza and delivering 497 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,960 door Dash, they're busy working. They're not paying any attention 498 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,200 to all of this and whose house it is or 499 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,720 anything else. Back to this question about the photograph of 500 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,440 the bad guy without the backpack and the gun, and 501 00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,799 then later he has a backpack and a gun. Paul 502 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,880 Mora waited on it. 503 00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:35,279 Speaker 12: Well, I wish I had a more dispositive answer for you. 504 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,480 But my read, of course, is that he showed up 505 00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:40,759 initially in the video that we've all seen. That seems 506 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,559 to be the first approach, because that's when he first 507 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,480 seems to notice that nest camera, and that's the point 508 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:48,559 where he's bringing all kinds of things in. He's got 509 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,799 that very loaded backpack. It's very different from let's say, 510 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,440 a burglar who would normally show up with an empty 511 00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:58,240 backpack to take things out. So it argues that he 512 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,720 had a particular plan for what was going to go 513 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,160 on inside that home. We assume an abduction, but we 514 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,480 don't know that could have developed, and then at some 515 00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,160 point he must have gone out and come back in. 516 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,799 He was loading something into the car. Doesn't necessarily mean Nancy, 517 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,759 but very clearly he made more than one trip, it 518 00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,400 seems to me, from inside the house, back to the 519 00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:20,759 car and back in. We do know that he was 520 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,440 at the scene for at least forty one minutes. That's 521 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,160 a pretty hard metric, so that's a lot of time 522 00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:29,680 to do all of this stuff, but it's also the 523 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:33,319 opportunity for him to have potentially left hopefully some DNA 524 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:37,359 or some other clue here that's going to ultimately identify him. 525 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,720 You know, I hesitate to read too much into that, 526 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,640 you know this positive statements like well it's a cheap holster, 527 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,799 but an expensive gun. That gun doesn't go to that holster. 528 00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,519 Who knows how it developed. I've had spoken to some 529 00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,319 of the local sourcing out here. Apparently there is a 530 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,480 thing that sometimes guys driving put the gun in the 531 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,480 opposite side like that because they can reach across if 532 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,720 they need. Arizona is an open Carrie state. Obviously, it's 533 00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:05,559 going to be something that you look at very hard. 534 00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:07,559 There are people who know a lot more about guns 535 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:09,559 than I do, who I am sure scraping at this 536 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,519 to try to identify the gun. There are a number 537 00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:17,320 of identifiable things in that image, right down to what 538 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,760 he's wearing. You know, I've seen images that seemed to 539 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,559 show the actual sweatshirt that he's wearing. 540 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: And then you can get into purchase history. 541 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:30,519 Speaker 12: Let's remember that's how the FBI solved the case of 542 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,639 the DC bomber that we had recently that was nascent 543 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,960 and and dormant, I should say for four years. It 544 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:39,840 was purchase history and it got down to where he 545 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,239 bought the batteries years ago. So if you can do that, 546 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,320 my gut tells me that they're going to be able 547 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,639 to do a lot with what you can see in 548 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,119 this video. 549 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: So speaking of that holster, I heard one of the 550 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:53,840 law enforcement experts talking about the Holster and he called 551 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,239 it a Howdy doty Holster, and I'm thinking I kind 552 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,840 of laughed because I thought, how many people you have 553 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,239 to be a certain vintage to know what what? Who? 554 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,719 Howdy Duty was a mat Alona how do doty Holster 555 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,679 to that I think I had when I was in 556 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,599 like the first grade. I think I had a little 557 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:20,079 cowboys set, and I think the I think my holsters had. 558 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:24,639 Two of them were sorry, but I think they were 559 00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:28,639 Howdy Doty. I think they were Howdy Duty. So he 560 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,079 was a cartoon character back in the day children's program. 561 00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:35,880 But I don't think anybody knows about how the Duty 562 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,719 unless you're, like I said, at a certain age. Mark. 563 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,920 I'm sorry. Mike Easter, he's a former FBI guy. He 564 00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,920 works in the cellular area where they go track down 565 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,119 the cellular signals. 566 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,079 Speaker 3: I think that the timeframe was reasonable and I say 567 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,800 that because you have to remember, as your previous conversation was, 568 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,559 bits and byees take time to uncover those artifacts. But 569 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,039 also you have to remember there's due process for US 570 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,079 or for the FBI, and that partnership with these private entities, 571 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,880 then we have to overcome their privacy rights. And once 572 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,639 you start getting into those areas where the lawyers get involved, 573 00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:15,800 it does create a delay, and that's unfortunate, but it's 574 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,119 just the reality of the situation. Sometimes we can operate 575 00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,159 pretty quickly in the exigency of the matter. But I 576 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:25,519 would imagine that due to a large level of privacy 577 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,079 of accessing that server by the government and even probably 578 00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:33,599 assistance from private experts, that they needed to go through 579 00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:36,360 the appropriate legal channels, and I believe cash or Director 580 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,239 ptael I Apologize actually mentioned that in his address that 581 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,840 they went through legal process. The significance of understanding the 582 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,159 cellular network is the importance of knowing what access points, phones, 583 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,039 or even vehicles in that area would be connected to 584 00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:58,119 for service. So then we are cast I'm not there anymore. 585 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,719 They can go and then exploit those sites for digital 586 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,039 evidence of phones and other mobile devices to include cars. 587 00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:10,639 Speaker 1: So I don't understand why the cellular stuff hasn't been 588 00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:14,119 talked about more, because I understand if you're trying to 589 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,199 capture every car that is driving through the middle of 590 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,000 most major cities, it's going to be a long list 591 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,440 of trying to track down who all those cars were. 592 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:30,960 But if you're in the suburbs of Tucson at two 593 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,880 o'clock on a Sunday morning, how many cars can there be? 594 00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,760 I would think he would be limited. So I'm puzzled 595 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,320 by also reporters asking about is that it Oh my gosh, 596 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,360 we're at the end of the investigative clues. I'm thinking, 597 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,039 oh my gosh, there's got to be a ton more, 598 00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:52,320 especially now that they've released the photos and the video. 599 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,480 And I believe Chris Tarbell from the FBI agrees with 600 00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:57,039 me on this. 601 00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,159 Speaker 13: I don't think they're at a dead end. I have 602 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,320 plenty of leads to go on, So yeah, I agree 603 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,639 with Harvey that they probably if this was well thought out, 604 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,360 he probably would have disabled the camera even from across 605 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,320 the street. You know, a well placed laser is going 606 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,159 to burn out the lens on that camera, or even physically, 607 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,000 you know, shooting at it with a pelly gun or 608 00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,199 something like that's going to disable that camera. So maybe 609 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,239 maybe it was a surprise once he got up there 610 00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:22,480 and saw it. But I mean there's plenty of other 611 00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,880 leads going on, you know, from the clothing to the 612 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,840 holster to cell phone tower pings. I'm sure the FBI 613 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,320 is running down all these leads. So I mean, think 614 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,039 about just traveling around. You're in New York, You're hitting 615 00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,079 you know, one hundred towers a day. We're gonna the 616 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,519 number of cell phones hitting these towers and triangulating. 617 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: Take some time. 618 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,039 Speaker 13: The FBI is good at that though, and we've been 619 00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,280 doing it for a long long time. And so they're 620 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,599 going to comb through and they're going to find people 621 00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:50,719 that in the area around this time, and then maybe 622 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,280 people in the area beforehand and sort of build a 623 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,199 pattern of life of people in the area, and then 624 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,440 we can take out residents and go through the misses 625 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,719 that way. But there's a lot of data to come 626 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,039 through on. 627 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:06,199 Speaker 1: This, Yeah, so they'll find something, they'll find some clue 628 00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:09,280 that will be the big breakout. There are other people 629 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,679 also talking about if the FBI found this digital data 630 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,800 from the porch yesterday, there's got to be more. And 631 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,599 the cameras are inside. Plus they've got cameras. They keep 632 00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:23,599 talking about a circle K that's close by. That's the 633 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,119 gas station on a busy intersection. They'll be watching, apparently, 634 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,440 checking every car that went by there. So there's a 635 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,119 lot more to go for that Wall Street today. Like 636 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:42,440 I told you, it was not much going on. Let's 637 00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:47,320 see Dow Jones industrials, Well, they bounced around a little 638 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,719 bit on the on the downside and then the upside 639 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,039 of it was no real direction. Dow down sixty seven 640 00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,840 to close at fifty one, the S and P down 641 00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:03,199 just part of a point, Nasdaq down thirty six points. 642 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,679 Gold was up eighty two dollars to five thousand, one twelve, 643 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:12,840 and oil up more than a dollar, the highest I've 644 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,599 seen for a while, sixty five dollars and some change 645 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:18,480 for a barrel of oil. That's it for today. Thank 646 00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:21,360 you for coming by. We will be back again tomorrow. 647 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,880 Hope I'll see you there.