1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,440 Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,400 where we left off with the Wall Street Journal article 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:16,640 authored by Kadijas Aftar and Caitlin Ostroth. Bruneau was arrested 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,519 in twenty twenty in France, where French prosecutors were investigating 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,079 him on allegations of rape and supplying girls to Epstein. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,079 He died in jail in twenty twenty two. Maxwell was 8 00:00:28,079 --> 00:00:31,320 found guilty in twenty twenty one and is serving a 9 00:00:31,399 --> 00:00:35,039 twenty year sentence. So the people out there that want 10 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:37,439 to play some antics and want to play word games 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,679 about Jeffrey Epstein being a human trafficker are starting from 12 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:46,320 a place of intellectual dishonesty. Now it's a fact that 13 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:48,719 he was never convicted, but what does that even mean. 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,039 That means he's innocent or does that mean that the 15 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:55,560 government didn't have the willpower to go after him because 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,759 we know the evidence was there, So it comes down 17 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:00,920 to willpower. Then you have to ask yourself why what 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,719 motivates a decision such as that that spans over multiple administrations, 19 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:10,359 And for me, there's only one reason, only one answer, 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,840 and that is that Jeffrey Epstein was too valuable of 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,640 an asset for them to burn at the time. That's 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,680 all that makes sense. Prosecutors in Paris on Saturday said 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,040 that they would re examine the case of Brunel and 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,920 set up a special team to analyze evidence that could 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,879 implicate French nationals in the Epstein case. Look, whoever was involved, 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,159 wherever they were, they need to be tracked down. And 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,480 anybody that was engaging in abusing girls, especially with Jeffrey Epstein, 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,799 needs to be held to account. And anybody who facilitated 29 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:46,359 that or helped that along the way, they should be 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,480 outed as well. And if they did anything criminal, financially 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:56,079 or otherwise, hang them by their toes too. This was 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,799 another instance of Epstein attempting to engage miss Rumler on 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,680 a matter about which she had no knowledge, and she 34 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:06,439 appropriately directed him to his legal counsel, said Jennifer Connolly, 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,199 a spokeswoman for Rumler. She declined to specify which legal counsel. 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,560 Rumbler has said she never represented Epstein and regretted her 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,000 association with him. No, she regretted being outed. Did you 38 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:23,000 regret the soup? Did you regret the handbags? Did you 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,360 regret god knows what else. It's always the same story, right, Oh, 40 00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:28,800 I'm so sorry that I was hanging out with so 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,199 and so. No, you're not sorry. You're sorry you got caught. 42 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:36,319 The shit's laughable. It's like somebody like Brian Kohlberger bro 43 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:39,599 goes to jail and all of a sudden he finds God. Okay, great, 44 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:43,199 Maybe you should have found God before you murdered four people. 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,319 But it's all good, right. He regrets it. As the 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,240 extent of her relationship with Epstein became clear in the 47 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,759 recent files, Rumler said last week that she would resign 48 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,439 from Goldman Sachs, where she is general counsel, in June. 49 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:01,000 Poe said he didn't talk with Rumler or Epstein about 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,039 Brunell on May fourth, twenty sixteen, or at any other time. 51 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,199 He said he had a schedule called that day with 52 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:11,240 Rumler to discuss his work on a legal motion to 53 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,520 quash a subpoena directed at Epstein. My engagement by Jeffrey 54 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,080 Epstein was limited, Poe said, adding that he terminated work 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,520 for Epstein in August of twenty sixteen. They all want 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,919 to run away. They all have the marathon shoes on. 57 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:33,360 Don't they I had no idea, what are you talking about? 58 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:37,360 Wasn't me? I never was at Jeffrey Epstein's house, And 59 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,599 then we find out you were, and then it just 60 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:42,439 becomes a different excuse and the goalposts get moved again. 61 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,520 Long before his role in the Epstein case came to light, 62 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:50,520 Brunell already had a sordid reputation in the fashion world. 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,840 In nineteen eighty eight, CBS sixty Minutes aired an investigation 64 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,400 into modeling agencies featuring women who said they were drug 65 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,400 by Brunell and expected to have sex with his male 66 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:04,599 friends in order to get modeling work. I guess they 67 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:09,599 were all lying to just a bunch of women who 68 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:12,800 are manipulating guys like Jean Luke Brunel. The real victim 69 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,000 here is Jean Luke Brunel and Jeffrey Epstein. Bro Yo, 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,439 that's literally the narrative that we're getting from some people. 71 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:22,879 One woman on camera said that Brunell had drugged and 72 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,759 raped her. No criminal charges wherever filed, and Brunell, who 73 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,240 denied the allegations, continued to operate freely cycling through agencies. 74 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,759 By the two thousands, Brunell and Epstein had forged a 75 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,600 deep relationship. Flight log show that Brunell was a frequent 76 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:42,959 passenger on Epstein's private jet starting around two thousand and 77 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,600 that's when the pipeline opened up. And I really encourage 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,519 all of you to take a look at that Maritza 79 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,079 Vasquez deposition. It is very telling and she gives you 80 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,879 a bird's eye view of what MC squared was up 81 00:04:56,879 --> 00:04:59,959 to when it comes to bringing girls in and set 82 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,920 them into the belly of the beast. In two thousand 83 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,480 and five, Epstein wired up to one million dollars to 84 00:05:07,519 --> 00:05:11,120 Brunell to help him launch EMC squared Model Management, which 85 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,279 opened offices in New York and Miami later that year. 86 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,199 The agency's name appeared to be an inside joke, with 87 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:22,199 people believing that in the equation E equals MC squared, 88 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,040 the E stood for Epstein. Well, I don't doubt that 89 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:29,000 for a minute. This was Epstein's company. We all know 90 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:32,560 that Brunell was the middleman. He was the face, right, 91 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,959 Oh well, I'm the modeling scout. But the real money, 92 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,879 the power was coming from Epstein behind the scenes. Epstein 93 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:45,360 used the agency as a way to procure women and 94 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:49,720 as a payroll vehicle, securing work visas for young women. Yeah, 95 00:05:50,079 --> 00:05:54,439 a lot of immigration fraud. Let's talk about that. All 96 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,800 these people out here with their contrarian views about human trafficking, 97 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,399 please explain all of the immigration fraud. Why we're work 98 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,839 visas being obtained, Why we're girls being brought to America 99 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:08,480 being told they are going to be models and never 100 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,360 getting a modeling gig. Please explain all of it. Now 101 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,800 what they'll say is, oh, well, we don't believe the girls. 102 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:19,519 So again they're coming from a place of intellectual dishonesty, 103 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:22,120 and I have no desire to even conversate with people 104 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,160 like that. Now, look, there is always a place for 105 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:30,199 contrarian views, and people should always question what's going on. 106 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:33,519 Whatever the narrative is, it should be questioned. But I 107 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,160 think there is such an overwhelming amount of evidence here 108 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,000 that it makes people just look stupid. Honestly, it makes 109 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,720 you look stupid. Now, I'm not saying that people shouldn't 110 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,680 question some of the more outlandish commentary. I mean we should. 111 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,360 I've told you from the very beginning that there's going 112 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:53,439 to be disinformation that they're going to try and obfuscate. 113 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,560 They're going to try and confuse us. And one of 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,800 the best ways to do that is to dump false 115 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,600 information so that people look at it and say, all 116 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,519 of this is bunk. Just take a look at this 117 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:07,879 allegation here. So since this allegation's outlandish, they all must be. 118 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,079 And that's why I told you not to fall for 119 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,920 the side quest. Don't fall for all the slacious bullshit. 120 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:19,560 That's what they want. Stay on target, and the target 121 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,360 is the system that allowed this to occur. A pair 122 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:27,160 of emails from July two thousand and six captures the arrangement. 123 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,079 On July thirteenth, Epstein wrote to Brunell at his MC 124 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:34,360 squared address, instructing him to put a woman that were 125 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,319 discussing on your payroll, specifying a fifty thousand dollars annual salary. 126 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Brunell asked whether Epstein wanted the woman to start scouting models. 127 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,079 Epstein replied the next day, starts salary as soon as possible. 128 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Epstein added that he would be in Paris the following 129 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:54,439 week and could see her. Then. Well, well, well, what 130 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,279 do you know, I'm sure it was just about modeling, right, 131 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:01,279 Nothing to see here. Jeffrey Epstein and his buddy of 132 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:04,240 Jean Luke Brunel, they were just, you know, great patrons, 133 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,279 and they were really worried about people's lives, and they 134 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:12,959 wanted people to achieve greatness, so they decided to get involved. 135 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,480 When Epstein was jailed in Florida in two thousand and 136 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,680 eight after pleading guilty to procuring a minor for prostitution, 137 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:25,079 Brunel visited Epstein almost seventy times, according to gel logs. 138 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:27,920 But yeah, Jean lu Brunell nothing to do with this. 139 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:33,720 Why should we pursue Jean lu Brunell, no evidence. It's unreal. 140 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,519 The whole entire thing is so unreal that it makes 141 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,759 me just so agitated and mad, even after all these 142 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,919 years of knowing that the fix has been in. In fact, 143 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,720 the longer this goes on, the more agitated I get. 144 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,399 After his Florida arrest in two thousand and six, Epstein 145 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,200 shifted his focus to women in their late teens and 146 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:58,480 twenties from Europe and Russia, whom he could lure to 147 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,000 the US and abuse. Since they were dependent on him 148 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,840 for visas, housing, and finances. He also pressured these women 149 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:11,600 to share with them details about their interactions with other men. Well, well, 150 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:16,919 well another receipt, is it? That's exactly what he was doing. 151 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,519 And after he got oled in America, his handlers told him, look, 152 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,360 you gotta focus elsewhere. Now you can still get up 153 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,759 to what you want to get up to, but you 154 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:27,559 got to leave the high school age girls alone, at 155 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,639 least not get them from the high schools. So Epstein 156 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,240 flip the script and the same exact template that they 157 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,840 used sharing Iran contra to move drugs, to move guns, 158 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,360 to move money, they just started using to move girls 159 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,039 from Eastern Europe. And of course these are the girls 160 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,799 that I have dubbed the girls with no names. By 161 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,399 twenty twelve, Brunel was in frequent communication with Epstein. On 162 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,399 June seventh of that year, Joshua Fink, the son of 163 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:05,159 Blackrock CEO Larry Fink, email Brunell about an MC two invoice, 164 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:08,039 saying he had received a bill and wanted to clarify 165 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,440 a point or two about their agreement. Brunell told Fink 166 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,120 he would suspend the billing. Oh, isn't that nice? So 167 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:19,639 what did you purchase from MC squared, the son of Blackrock? 168 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:23,360 Did you buy models for a modeling shoot? Did you 169 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,879 have models for I don't know, a video? What sort 170 00:10:27,919 --> 00:10:30,759 of business were you doing with MC squared? And why 171 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:35,799 were you doing it? Probably a good question. Yeah, the 172 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:38,519 invoice was related to a model whom Fink was dating 173 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,919 that had a work visa through the agency, A traffic 174 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,240 girl that was brought in. That's what that means in 175 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,000 my opinion. When Brunell forwarded the email chain to Epstein, 176 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,960 the reply was talk to me first, please. When the 177 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,679 woman forwarded the same email that day, Epstein replied, this 178 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,200 for a past, not future. Epstein was well aware of 179 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,519 the relationship. The woman had forwarded him several chat logs 180 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:07,039 with Fink, which captured the couple clashing over how serious 181 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:10,279 a relationship was and whether marriage was on the table. 182 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:14,759 Jeffrey Epstein, the matchmaker, huh, a real life, live action 183 00:11:14,919 --> 00:11:20,720 version a fiddler on the roof? Isn't that nice? And 184 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:23,159 with your visa? I have no idea what it is 185 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,039 I can do beyond pay your agency to supplement your 186 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:29,000 income and theirs because you are not getting work as 187 00:11:29,039 --> 00:11:31,840 a model. Fink wrote in reply to her complaints that 188 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:34,360 he wasn't doing enough to help her because she was 189 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:36,759 never brought there to be a model. She was brought 190 00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:39,639 there to be you know. I hate to say it 191 00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:43,080 served up to somebody and I guess that's somebody was 192 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,480 mister Fink. Fink told the journal that he met the 193 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:49,559 woman at a friend's dinner party and started a romantic 194 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,360 relationship that lasted roughly a year. I had no relationship 195 00:11:53,399 --> 00:11:56,480 with Epstein or Brunel, he said. I am totally shocked 196 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,480 that she was forwarding electronic correspondence to Epstein. Oh, I'm 197 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:06,320 sure you're shocked, you dumb idiot. I had no relationship 198 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,000 with Brunell and Epstein except for getting girls from them. 199 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:13,240 What an absolute clown. He said that he was helping 200 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,000 the woman settle her debts with a modeling agency and 201 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,120 loaned her money to pay off Brunel. She wasn't working 202 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,279 or getting enough jobs, and so she had suggested at 203 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:24,639 one point, hey, could you help me settle these debts, 204 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:29,039 he said, And so that was the correspondence. It was 205 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,679 a personal relationship, and personal things happen. He added. Well, yeah, 206 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,720 there's no doubt that in personal relationships things go south. 207 00:12:37,799 --> 00:12:41,600 But not every personal relationship has its genesis at the 208 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,320 MC square at office. Kind of an important part of 209 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,519 the story, you know. The woman described herself to the 210 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,679 journal as trapped in a web of abuse controlled by 211 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,639 Epstein and Brunel. She said that she had been a 212 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,080 successful model abroad with the top agency, but after signing 213 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,679 with MC square and getting a work visa through the agency, 214 00:13:02,919 --> 00:13:06,519 her work dried up. She said Brunell charged fees without 215 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,240 securing castings and that Epstein abused her throughout. So you 216 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,759 can choose not to believe her if that's what you 217 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:15,519 want to do, and I'm sure there's going to be 218 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:20,440 people that take that approach, but not me. I believe her, 219 00:13:21,039 --> 00:13:23,519 and that's because I just know too much about what 220 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,120 they were doing in Eastern Europe, and when you read 221 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:29,159 the depositions and you listen to the people tell the 222 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,159 stories who were there, I'm confident in saying that Jeffrey 223 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:37,240 Epstein and Jean Luke Brunell one hundred percent were trafficking 224 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:41,080 women between each other. And that's just the beginning, Okay. 225 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,600 That's what I think we can prove, and I think 226 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:48,080 that it is undeniable that Jeffrey Epstein and Jean lu 227 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,440 Brunell were trafficking women between the two of them and 228 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:59,440 trading them like people trade baseball cards. The woman said 229 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,679 that she had met Fink on her own independent of 230 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,279 Epstein and Brunel and saw the relationship, which she said 231 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,360 was consensual, as a possible escape. But Ebstein wanted the 232 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:12,399 relationship with Fink to end to keep her under his control. 233 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:16,360 The woman said. When Fink proposed meeting her Emparis to 234 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:19,840 resolve their issues and discuss marriage in late twenty twelve, 235 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,480 Epstein blocked it and the relationship ended, according to the 236 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:27,159 woman and messages she showed the journal, boy, this really 237 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,279 sets a bomb off in the camp of the people 238 00:14:29,279 --> 00:14:32,840 who say that Epstein wasn't trafficking girls. Huh my prediction. 239 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,600 They'll move the goalposts. Oh well, he wasn't trafficking underage 240 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:44,080 girls until the story comes out to confirm that. Brad Edwards, 241 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,399 a lawyer who has represented more than two hundred Epstein victims, 242 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,039 including the woman, said Epstein's wealth in power allowed him 243 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,600 to infiltrate industries, perhaps more pervasively the modeling industry. He 244 00:14:55,639 --> 00:14:59,120 found Jean Luke, a like minded predator with whom he 245 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:02,960 could conspire on a daily basis to recruit and control 246 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,559 the lives of countless young women, including Jane Doe. Brunell 247 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,519 and Epstein were so close in twenty twelve that a 248 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,000 version of Epstein's trust from that year listed Brunel as 249 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,480 a beneficiary for as much as five million, according to 250 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:21,679 a copy made public in the recent Justice Department files. 251 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,759 Around that time, Brunel was fretting over a deposition of 252 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,360 Maritza Vasquez, who I've talked about plenty of times and 253 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,840 shared the whole deposition with you folks as well. MC 254 00:15:36,039 --> 00:15:40,440 two's former financial controller and bookkeeper. Vasquez had given a 255 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,039 sworn statement in twenty ten in a civil lawsuit filed 256 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,480 by one of Epstein's victims. Vasquez described how models were 257 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:52,360 placed in Epstein controlled departments and how visas were arranged 258 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:57,080 for underage girls, and that apartment building was the one 259 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:00,360 over on East sixty six. That's where they stabed all 260 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,240 these girls from all these countries. Earlier, Brunell had accused 261 00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:08,320 Vasquez of embezzling company funds from two thousand and four 262 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,000 to two thousand and six. She pleaded guilty to a 263 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,919 criminal charge in two thousand and seven and agreed to 264 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:18,519 pay restitution of ninety eight thousand dollars. Vasquez couldn't be 265 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:24,000 reached for comment. On October fourth, twenty twelve, Brunell messaged Epstein, 266 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,200 her lawyer, said she will take the fifth on everything. 267 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,440 What to do, he wrote. Epstein's reply, Ask every question 268 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,919 you can think of? Did she have sex with the girls? 269 00:16:34,279 --> 00:16:37,159 Make her sit and take the fifth to every question 270 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,759 for hours? No big Gil right, Just get behind the 271 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:45,600 scenes and let's come up with a plan. Let's obstruct 272 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,960 another crime. By the way. Brunell and Epstein also relied 273 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,600 on a common recruiter. Daniel said two fine girls and 274 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:58,480 women in other countries the file show. Siodd, a European 275 00:16:58,519 --> 00:17:02,360 modeling scout, exchanged dozens of emails with Brunel and Epstein. 276 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:07,079 In one exchange from July twenty fourteen, Sayad informed Epstein 277 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:10,799 that he had two girls from Sweden, a Slovakian, two French, 278 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,920 and redacted the Russian with whom you spoke. Epstein said 279 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,440 that he would reimburse Sayid for his expenses and said, 280 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,480 please send me the details of the girls' names, etc. 281 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,799 Si I compared his recruiting efforts to fishing. In this busyness, 282 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:32,599 I feel like fishermen. Sometimes I cash quick, sometimes no fish. 283 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,839 He ended the message with the taally of his expenses 284 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,200 for the trip twenty seven hundred euros. Siodd's attorney in 285 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:43,599 France didn't immediately respond to a request for comment, and 286 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,160 a video posted on x and recently broadcast on French TV, 287 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,359 Siod said he worked professionally to introduce models to Epstein. 288 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:56,079 With time we have learned that he committed atrocities. He said, 289 00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:58,640 oh yeah, he had no idea. Huh, no idea? What 290 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,359 you were up to? Another guy who had no clue. 291 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:06,440 In December twenty fourteen, Virginia Roberts, one of Epstein's most 292 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,519 prominent victims, filed a motion to join a lawsuit that 293 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,960 was challenging Epstein's non prosecution agreement related to his earlier 294 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:17,559 arrest in Florida. In one of the exhibits, she alleged 295 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,160 that Brunell traffic girls as the youngest twelve to his friends, 296 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:27,559 including Epstein. The allegations placed Brunel in public crosshairs alongside Epstein. 297 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,039 As a result, the relationship between Brunel and Epstein appeared 298 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:37,200 to fray. In January twenty fifteen, Brunel and EMC Squared 299 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,880 sued Epstein in a Florida court, claiming that the agency 300 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,240 had gone from being worth millions to almost worthless because 301 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:48,960 of the notoriety surrounding Epstein's crimes. The lawsuit alleged Brunell 302 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,960 had lost potentially ten million dollars in profits, that photographers 303 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,640 and scouts had cut ties with EMC Squared, and that 304 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,759 Brunel could no longer recruit new models because families refused 305 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:05,279 to entrust her daughters to a man publicly linked to Epstein. Meanwhile, 306 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:11,119 Brunel was just as much of a monster, and I 307 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,920 suspect that this lawsuit was just another cover, just like 308 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,559 the lawsuit with Les Wesner. I feel the same way here, 309 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:23,039 kind of an escape patch right. The following month, to tone, 310 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,759 Brunell's lawyer called Edwards, the victim's attorney, saying he was 311 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:30,079 having trouble serving Epstein with the lawsuit, and raised the 312 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:35,400 possibility of that Brunell possessed photographic evidence against Epstein. Well, 313 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,279 we know Brunell had the goods, and the more I 314 00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:40,759 look at it, the more I think about it, the 315 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:47,000 less convinced I am that Brunell killed himself. Edwards, unsure 316 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,119 whether this represented a genuine break between the two men 317 00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:53,440 or employed by Epstein, told the journal he alerted his 318 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:57,519 law partner Stan Pottinger. Pottinger died in twenty twenty four. 319 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:02,319 The rift between Epstein and Brunell was temporary, and that's 320 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:08,480 why I think it was a ruse. The recently released 321 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,599 Justice Department file show. By April twenty fifteen, Brunell suggested 322 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,839 a friend to mediate the dispute, and later that month, 323 00:20:16,079 --> 00:20:19,359 Epstein asked to meet Brunel. I have some ideas that 324 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,000 I think you will like, Epstein wrote on April fourteenth. 325 00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:27,119 Still over the following year, Pottinger, along with Boys and Edwards, 326 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,200 corresponded with federal prosecutors in New York and to Tone 327 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:35,519 to get Brunell to cooperate. By twenty sixteen, Brunell had 328 00:20:35,559 --> 00:20:39,640 agreed to turn himself in and was naming names. Wow, 329 00:20:40,319 --> 00:20:43,319 just wow, and it just died on the vine. They 330 00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:45,839 had everything they needed right here and they refused to 331 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:49,000 do it. But sure, you're crazy for thinking the fix 332 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:57,279 was in The prosecutor Notes from February twenty ninth, twenty sixteen, 333 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,200 revealed that the victims lawyers briefed the prosecut to Tone 334 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,599 says his client has photographic evidence. According to the notes, 335 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,279 Brunell doesn't want to implicate himself. On May third, Pottinger 336 00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:12,839 wrote in an email to a prosecutor. Yesterday, I spoke 337 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,039 to Daniel Sayed, whom Jean Luke Brunell describes as a 338 00:21:16,079 --> 00:21:19,920 scout or recruiter of girls and or women for Jeffrey Epstein. 339 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,920 So he's another co conspirator, right, so he needs to 340 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,160 be investigated and indicted if the evidence is there. To 341 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,200 Tone said that Epstein eventually called him to discuss Brunell's 342 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,200 suit and tried to build a rapport, bonding over their 343 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,480 shared Brooklyn roots. He's a real charmer, to Tone recalled. 344 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,319 He said that Brunell eventually settled the suit with Epstein 345 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,759 and said the terms were confidential. After the effort to 346 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:49,000 get Brunell to testify failed, Epstein continued luring victims. When 347 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,319 Epstein was found dead in a jail cell in twenty nineteen, 348 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:57,039 Brunell went into hiding. French authorities launched an investigation shortly 349 00:21:57,079 --> 00:22:00,759 after searching his home and offices. To see here though 350 00:22:01,079 --> 00:22:04,119 no human trafficking. Everything's just a big made up lie. 351 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:09,799 It's a big moral panic. In December of twenty twenty, 352 00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:13,720 French police intercepted Brunel at a Paris air report as 353 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,920 he attempted to board a flight to Senegal, he was 354 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,119 taken into custody in charge with sex crimes. In February 355 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,559 of twenty twenty two, he was found hanged in his 356 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,559 prison cell. That sounds familiar. Huh. We've heard that story before, 357 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:30,960 haven't we. And look, I'm not buying it. I don't 358 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,720 buy that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, and at this point 359 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,599 I don't buy that Jean Luke Brunel killed himself either. 360 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,880 But like usual, we'll continue to swim through that muck 361 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,680 searching for some clarity. All the information that goes with 362 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,119 this episode can be found in the description box