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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Off Day Dodger Talk. David Vase with you

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<v Speaker 2>until eight o'clock tonight right here on a five to

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<v Speaker 2>seventy LA Sports and we have a great show for you. Tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to check in with Jorge Castillo, formerly

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<v Speaker 2>of the La Times, now covers the Mets and Yankees

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<v Speaker 2>for ESPN. We'll get into Juan Soto and the drama

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<v Speaker 2>of him having the fomo of not being in pinstripes

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<v Speaker 2>and not having as much fun playing for the Mets.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll also find out whether or not New York

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<v Speaker 2>has gone soft because Aaron Judge dropped maybe the easiest

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<v Speaker 2>fly ball in the World Series. Maybe a superstar has

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<v Speaker 2>never made that type of error in a World Series

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<v Speaker 2>game at Yankee Stadium. Only Aaron Judge did, and it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like New York has just forgiven him something they

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<v Speaker 2>would not do for a lot of other players. So,

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<v Speaker 2>with the Dodgers going to face the Mets seven times

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<v Speaker 2>in the next week and a half and going to

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<v Speaker 2>see the Yankees on the next homestand a good time

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<v Speaker 2>to check in with horiy A Castillo. And since the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers are playing the Mets tomorrow night at City Field,

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<v Speaker 2>it was appropriate for us to reshare a conversation that

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<v Speaker 2>I had with two of the Los Angeles legends of

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<v Speaker 2>high school baseball from Crenshaw and Fremont High School in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties, the one and only Darryl Strawberry legendary met

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<v Speaker 2>and our guy Eric Davis, Eric the Red. Both of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys came back to LA to play for the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't go the way they thought it would, but nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>during twenty twenty and the COVID shutdown, those two guys

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<v Speaker 2>did a rare interview together with me right here on

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<v Speaker 2>a five to seventy LA Sports And since it was

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<v Speaker 2>in the abyss of twenty twenty, I thought tonight would

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<v Speaker 2>be a great night to reshare that conversation, So that's

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<v Speaker 2>coming up at the bottom of the hour. Horia Castial

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<v Speaker 2>will join us in about ten minutes now. Since our

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<v Speaker 2>last Off Days show, it went well with the Colin

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<v Speaker 2>Yee highlight montage of the last ten game road trip

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodger homestand did not go as great as that

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<v Speaker 2>last road trip, the Dodgers were just four and five

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<v Speaker 2>after taking two out of three from the A's and

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<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, winning the last two against the

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<v Speaker 2>Diamondbacks humongous after being swept by the Angels. But there

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<v Speaker 2>were still a lot of great moments in this entire

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<v Speaker 2>homestand and Colin Yee did his magic again with this

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<v Speaker 2>highlight montage.

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<v Speaker 3>Live from Dodger Stadium the series Dodger Baseball Column along

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<v Speaker 3>with Jose Mota, I tomever it with mondays off this week,

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<v Speaker 3>Grinder will us to come into this one. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>first of three with the Athletics went to Old Miss

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<v Speaker 3>and was drafted in the first round.

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<v Speaker 4>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>This ball swung out and hammered deep to right pat

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<v Speaker 2>O'tani with his thirteenth home.

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<v Speaker 3>Run of the year. That didn't take verry long. Three

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<v Speaker 3>nothing league A one pitch swung on and well hit

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<v Speaker 3>the right field, this ball heading back toward the walls. Gone,

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<v Speaker 3>It is gone. It's the first major league home run

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<v Speaker 3>for his son Kim, and the Dodgers have tied it

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<v Speaker 3>up three to three as Kim goes deep into the pavilion.

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<v Speaker 3>There's lead first and second to won from Ferguson and

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<v Speaker 3>Rookie swings and he hits it to right center field.

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<v Speaker 3>Half balls go over the.

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<v Speaker 2>Wall, bounce us off the track around the third is Keith.

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<v Speaker 3>K He's in here comes so hey, he's up scoring

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<v Speaker 3>a two round double for Mookie Beets. It's six to three.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, there's only so many moments who're gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Get you know, we all went in play the game

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<v Speaker 5>for so long, and so coming up in a situation

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<v Speaker 6>I'm blessed for it, especially be behind show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, there's so many but anytime you can come through

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<v Speaker 4>The guys win, I mean, it's always fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Freeman leaves at second base, where presents the go ahead

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<v Speaker 3>Max Month, seeing back to back at bats, has gone

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<v Speaker 3>yard and the Dodgers lean it three to one. Three balls,

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<v Speaker 3>two strikes to Dalton rushing. Alexander's staring in Now the

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<v Speaker 3>A's right handers payoff pitch, so I'm not run about

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<v Speaker 3>up the middle of ace. Heck, that's the first big

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<v Speaker 3>league hit for the Dodgers number one prospect Dalton Rushing.

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<v Speaker 3>He got it in his second plate appearance, and he

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<v Speaker 3>It's a free one pitch and Otani just hammers won

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<v Speaker 2>It is back.

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<v Speaker 3>It is gone. His second home run of the Knight.

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<v Speaker 4>Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Otani getting it done for the home run to

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<v Speaker 3>That ball is gonna drop in fair. It bounces over

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<v Speaker 3>come around to score. It is seventeen to two. Aufman

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<v Speaker 1>By from Dodger Stadium, It's Game two of the Freeway Series. Hi, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>alongside my dear friend hosse Mota, I'm Steven Nelson, and

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you may be and how whoever you may be listening,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to a special Saturday at the stadium. For the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in two hundred and sixty days, Clayton Kershaw

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<v Speaker 1>is back on the mountain for the Dodgers, making his

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five season debut. Been averaging about eighty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half miles per hour on his fastball.

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<v Speaker 4>He's tuned up for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>The payoff swinging in a miss strike three twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>And the countdown begins in three thousand strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 1>The payoff to Paez is pummeled center failed. Indeed, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>has brand. What a swing from Andy Potz, a three

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<v Speaker 1>run tank to death center ties the game and key

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<v Speaker 1>K hammers of all the left faield no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dodgers get one back. Keek K goes halfway up

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, and it's five to four. Helpation at

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<v Speaker 1>the plate to two. Oh Rushing will swing and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a rope down the right field line. HiT's a fair

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<v Speaker 1>ball into the corner. Kick Ga waved around. He will

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<v Speaker 1>score as the ball bounce out of play. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>RBI ground rule double for Dalton Rushing and this game

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<v Speaker 1>is tied at five. Will Smith can tie the game

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<v Speaker 1>with one swing. This ball is hitting the air to

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<v Speaker 7>Just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>We are tied.

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<v Speaker 4>On this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Tony wings and hits a high drive to the

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<v Speaker 3>Show Hayes coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Solo home run show Hey, Old Tani his seventeenth of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. He took Bookie hammers another ball left field

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<v Speaker 4>He's done it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Tani and Bets go back to back of the six.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a seven to three ball game eight of the

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<v Speaker 1>season for Bets. Second of the night, Dodgers not going quietly.

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<v Speaker 1>Tioscar Hernandez was there but just couldn't make the catch.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I fly ball right field. Ta Oscar on

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding me? Rounding birds home run robbery from Taoscar

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<v Speaker 3>Two and two the count of Peyton Smith. Ya Alamoto's

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<v Speaker 3>him the cutter. Nine strikeouts for Yoshinobu Yamamoto. He leads

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<v Speaker 3>set at the belt. The right hander kicks fires, tug

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<v Speaker 3>and miss strike. Cray got him with a slider, calling

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<v Speaker 3>a pressure cooker for Ben Kisparius, but Diamondbacks leave them loaded.

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<v Speaker 3>He leaves it second base while Miller goes into the stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>The O two pitch to Tommy Edmund Hilt He swings

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<v Speaker 3>then the second is Tommy Edmund. The Dodgers get a run.

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<v Speaker 3>It's three to two. Two wonder one see Leeds. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a high drive to center field. That's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Tawell going back, he's gonna make the catch. Otani tags

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<v Speaker 3>he won't score Emma. Dodgers walk it off for the

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<v Speaker 3>fourth time this year. Max Mounsey's sacrifice fly wins it

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<v Speaker 3>for the Dodgers four to three.

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<v Speaker 4>Final shore.

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<v Speaker 3>One two pitch to Tiascar. He swings hits a high

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<v Speaker 2>It is done.

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<v Speaker 3>Left three run home run Taoscar Hernandez Emma Dodgers have

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<v Speaker 2>In front three to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Great job again by calling ye I love Montages and

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<v Speaker 2>what a way to do it on an off days

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<v Speaker 2>show the Dodgers four and five on that homestand but

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<v Speaker 2>Tioscar Hernandez to the rescue last night with that big,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, three run home run against Corbyn Burns. When

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<v Speaker 2>we continue on Dodger Talk, we'll check in with joy

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<v Speaker 2>A Castillo. Don't go anywhere. There's a lot to get

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<v Speaker 2>to between now and eight o'clock right here on AM

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<v Speaker 2>five to seventy LA Sports AM five seventy LA Sports.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Dodgers are going to see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mets and the Yankees in the next week and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, beginning Tomorrow night at City Field, a three

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<v Speaker 2>game series between the Dodgers and Mets. First time these

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<v Speaker 2>two teams have seen each other since last year's NLCS,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first time the Dodgers will see Juan Soto

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<v Speaker 2>since last year's World Series, and the perfect person to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to is our guy from the La Times who

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<v Speaker 2>got swooped up by ESPN and now covers the Mets

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<v Speaker 2>and Yankees. He is the best baseball rider on the

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<v Speaker 2>East Coast and we're lucky to have him on the

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<v Speaker 2>show tonight. That is the one and only Jorge cast deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Jorget thanks a lot for the time, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Dave. What an introduction, man, what an honor.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to be back with you.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I could hear it in your voice. You care

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<v Speaker 2>more right now than Juan Soto does.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm hustling more right Is that is that my banguage

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<v Speaker 8>is a lot better right now? You can't see it,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's it's so much better right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Dodgers are walking into a city field that's

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<v Speaker 4>It's not.

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<v Speaker 8>It doesn't seem like it's just that he's not producing, right.

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<v Speaker 8>He's obviously not producing to a level that we expect

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<v Speaker 8>from Juan Soto. Last year, he just came out of

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<v Speaker 8>This year, he has not been great from the jump,

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<v Speaker 8>and his body language just teams off. And you know,

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<v Speaker 8>at least five years until that opt out kicks, until

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<v Speaker 8>figure it out with Swans. Swan Soda has to figure

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you covered one Soda with the Yankees last year,

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<v Speaker 2>there a noticeable difference as far as the way he

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, there is a difference. You know, everyone's pointing out.

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<v Speaker 8>It sounds trivial, it sounds silly, But the fact is

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's always said it's a field thing, but you know,

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<v Speaker 8>maybe maybe it's like a chicken oric thing. Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 8>or maybe he's just not feeling right with his surroundings.

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<v Speaker 8>But we are not seeing that swagger that you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the smile. He's smile, he's swaggering. He's looking back and

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<v Speaker 8>he's staring at the picture we saw that I covered him.

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<v Speaker 8>I also covered him in DC, and he was like

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<v Speaker 8>It's just not the same. He doesn't have handshakes with

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<v Speaker 8>everyone like he did last year with the Yankees. He

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<v Speaker 8>had these handshakes, this one handshake with Aaron Judge. You're

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<v Speaker 8>It does look different, and maybe there is some fumma.

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<v Speaker 8>But like I said, man, he's a grown man. He

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<v Speaker 8>This is the first month of a this is the

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<v Speaker 8>a rough start here in New York. Colo show down,

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<v Speaker 2>Jorge Castillo, who covers the meds and Yankees for ESPN,

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<v Speaker 2>day Dodger Talk. All Right, the other part of the

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<v Speaker 2>whole New York scene I wanted to get to because

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Judge. You know, I grew up knowing that New

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<v Speaker 2>fag Jorge that everybody is giving Aaron Judge a free

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<v Speaker 2>pass in New York for clanking that fly ball in

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<v Speaker 2>what eventually cost the Yankees in Game five. If that

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<v Speaker 2>was Alex Rodriguez, they would be reminding him every day.

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<v Speaker 2>How does Aaron Judge get away with everybody just absolving

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<v Speaker 2>him of his postseason sin?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so it's not just that, right, And then the

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<v Speaker 8>postseason he had he struggled again and I think he

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<v Speaker 8>was turning the corner actually in that Game five until

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<v Speaker 8>they dropped that fly ball. You know, he made it

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<v Speaker 8>a nice catch earlier in the game, hit a home run.

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<v Speaker 8>Blah blah blah. The reason why this happens with Aaron

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<v Speaker 8>Judge and not like you said in Alisa Regaz He's

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<v Speaker 8>a homegrown guy. He's beloved here in New York. He

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<v Speaker 8>stayed in New York. He could have gone for more

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<v Speaker 8>money in San Francisco or San Diego, he chose to

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<v Speaker 8>the argument he's the best right handed hitter of all time.

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<v Speaker 8>The numbers are amazing, going back to the year plus

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<v Speaker 8>down in the beginning of May of last year. This

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<v Speaker 8>thousand and four when that was Pete Barry Bonds, but

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<v Speaker 8>this is as close as we're going to get, as close.

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<v Speaker 9>As we've seen.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think that's why it's a mixture of that.

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<v Speaker 8>The guy's amazing. He's been great obviously during the regular season,

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<v Speaker 8>and he's a homebro guy who chose to play for

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<v Speaker 8>the Yankees. And this is the New York's guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>this is not a rod. A rock came in and

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<v Speaker 8>was worth shooting with Derek Jeter from the jump. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>a rock came in. He was a star elsewhere. He

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<v Speaker 8>People love Aaron Jodge he's respected across baseball, and I

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<v Speaker 8>think that's why he's getting more of a free pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Jorge has Judge referenced that drop in Game five, or

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers, or that being a motivating factor to his

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<v Speaker 8>No, Actually, I've heard a story during spring training about

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<v Speaker 8>that whole fifth inning and how that really you know

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<v Speaker 8>how I mean the way they just really gave that

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<v Speaker 8>if they win that game, the Dodgers are in trouble

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<v Speaker 8>with their fishing situation. But obviously that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>And you wonder.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, at that time, Garret.

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<v Speaker 8>Cole was healthy. He's thirty four years old. Aaron Judge

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<v Speaker 8>just turned thirty three years old. These guys aren't young.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, the window. We talk about windows all the

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<v Speaker 8>time in sports. Sometimes we overstate them. Sometimes it's true,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, to win with those two guys, Garrett Cole

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<v Speaker 8>was out for the season. Now, you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 8>win a World Series now very soon this year, next year.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, I went around asking different guys. Aaron

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<v Speaker 8>Judge said, hey, we lost. It doesn't matter how we lost.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, whether I believe him or not. Whether you

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<v Speaker 8>believe him or not, that's another story. But he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>a loss is a loss. We dropped that close and

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<v Speaker 8>it's stumped. I'm sure other guys in that clubhouse talked about, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>the way we lost that stump. I don't think Aaron

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<v Speaker 8>Judge is you know, dropping that fly ball in center

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<v Speaker 8>field is motivating him anymore this year. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 8>you looked at what he did in the regular season

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<v Speaker 8>last year, it's basically the same thing. The guy who's

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<v Speaker 4>Game for him right now. And what he needs to do.

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<v Speaker 8>Is stay healthy because if he stays healthy, the Yankees

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<v Speaker 8>will make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 9>And once he gets to the.

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<v Speaker 8>Playoffs, he needs to do maybe not exactly this, but

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<v Speaker 8>he needs to be a star in the playoffs. That's

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<v Speaker 8>the next step for Aaron Judge. And if you just

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<v Speaker 8>starting the playoffs, the Yankees are a real straight in

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<v Speaker 8>an American league that's pretty weak.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt. Maybe a rematch from last year's World Series

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<v Speaker 2>a LA seventy seven and seventy eight in the Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 2>Dodger days, Jorge should be fun this weekend. It'll be

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<v Speaker 2>even fun, even more fun at Dodgers Stadium when the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers return home to play the Mets and Yankees. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you out there for that and appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for taking time out of a busy night

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<v Speaker 2>in the Big Apple.

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<v Speaker 8>Appreciate you, Dave, Thanks for having me on there.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes Jorge Castillo from ESPN. He is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best. You want to follow him on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 2>Jorge Castio. When we continue here on Dodger Talk, you

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<v Speaker 2>will hear our conversation with two of the legends of

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles baseball, Darryl Strawberry Eric Davis. They were together

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll share that conversation with you again right here

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<v Speaker 2>on AM five to seventy LA Sports from New York

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers Mets tomorrow night, Kershaw Day at City Fields, and

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<v Speaker 2>four to ten. I wanted to reshare a great conversation

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<v Speaker 2>I had with two LA baseball legends. It was done

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<v Speaker 2>Here was the great Darryl Strawberry and Eric Davis together

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<v Speaker 9>I say, how you doing everyday? What's up?

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<v Speaker 6>D old timer? What do you do baby?

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<v Speaker 7>How you coming on?

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<v Speaker 6>You say good? We're good.

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<v Speaker 9>We old timers out, so we call each other old timers.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's good to be with you, David. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 9>really good to be with you on the phone with

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<v Speaker 9>my best friend growing up in California and playing a

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<v Speaker 5>It is so great to hear your guys voice. And

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<v Speaker 5>I know Los Angeles was really excited when we put

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<v Speaker 5>this together. When you guys come back to LA, do

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<v Speaker 7>It don't never leave, David, because that's kind of DNA.

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<v Speaker 7>Even though we started somewhere, and he started in New York,

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<v Speaker 7>I started in Cincinnati, and then we went places, and

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<v Speaker 7>to LA, and we went to all the places. LA

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<v Speaker 7>will always be home, and so the jumilation of recite

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<v Speaker 7>when we get when we go, it's just as anticified

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<v Speaker 7>when we see the La Dodger fans and the Laker

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<v Speaker 9>M nerators was there when we were there, So you know.

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<v Speaker 7>We had a whole lot of but it was extraordinary

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<v Speaker 9>It is remarkable, you know to sit back and think,

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<v Speaker 9>to come back home and play, and like Gerrek said,

425
00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.720
<v Speaker 9>it will always be home. It's I mean, la, I

426
00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:40.359
<v Speaker 9>mean he grew up on the free mind. I grew

427
00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.000
<v Speaker 9>up in Crenshaw, and there's so many great baseball players

428
00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:45.599
<v Speaker 9>that come out of Southern California and all of us

429
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:47.640
<v Speaker 9>got a chance to see each other and play against

430
00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:52.240
<v Speaker 9>each other, and it's but there's nothing like home. There's

431
00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:55.559
<v Speaker 9>nothing like Harbor Park. There's nothing like the program or

432
00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.480
<v Speaker 9>who we were being eric and what we built around

433
00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:01.119
<v Speaker 9>there for so many years in our old neighborhood when

434
00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:02.720
<v Speaker 9>we became professional athletes.

435
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.079
<v Speaker 5>You guys put together a documentary a few years back

436
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.440
<v Speaker 5>about Harvard Park down there in South Central and even

437
00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:11.799
<v Speaker 5>me in the San Fernando Valley used to hear about

438
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.200
<v Speaker 5>how you guys would be working out down there right

439
00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.799
<v Speaker 5>before spring training. What did that park mean to not

440
00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:21.799
<v Speaker 5>only you two guys to reconnect every off season, but

441
00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:24.680
<v Speaker 5>what did it mean to the community for you guys

442
00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:26.400
<v Speaker 5>to be there every off season?

443
00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:31.160
<v Speaker 7>Well it started for me. It was uh and it

444
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.319
<v Speaker 7>was great that she was able to hear it down

445
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:35.519
<v Speaker 7>in the San Fernando vellay. That means we have some

446
00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:36.480
<v Speaker 7>good marketing people.

447
00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:36.759
<v Speaker 6>You know.

448
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:42.160
<v Speaker 7>They was about the spream news, but it was something

449
00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:47.680
<v Speaker 7>that we really really took pride in because like the

450
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:53.400
<v Speaker 7>conversation me and Shaw would have and it really consummated

451
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:56.960
<v Speaker 7>itself from the history of so many black baseball players

452
00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:01.440
<v Speaker 7>from South Central Inner City and our era. We heard

453
00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 7>about them and we didn't see them, and you know,

454
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:06.119
<v Speaker 7>some of them went on to do great things and

455
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 7>they moved away and and so forth. But we wanted

456
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 7>to make sure that our voices and our face was

457
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 7>seen in the same areas that we grew up in.

458
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:24.079
<v Speaker 7>And by us starting Harvard Park where we did, it

459
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:28.400
<v Speaker 7>did two things. It created a culture gap because there's

460
00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:31.799
<v Speaker 7>so many players coming from so many places in South

461
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:34.960
<v Speaker 7>Central and it reminded us of where we came from

462
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:38.559
<v Speaker 7>to always keep pushing, to keep wanting more and to

463
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:41.359
<v Speaker 7>keep doing better and to keep letting the kids around

464
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.480
<v Speaker 7>that area see us to know that dreams do come true.

465
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:50.559
<v Speaker 7>So it was remarkable. It was something that we did

466
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 7>from the bottom of my heart. That number one, it

467
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:57.079
<v Speaker 7>had ever been done before that, and it's never been

468
00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:00.160
<v Speaker 7>done prior to that. So having a good twis of

469
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.839
<v Speaker 7>the fifteen year run. And if you haven't seen the documentary,

470
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.599
<v Speaker 7>then you've missed something real special. But watch the documentary

471
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 7>and watch how many different baseball executives and players and

472
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:17.200
<v Speaker 7>managers and scouts came from just that was part of

473
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.200
<v Speaker 7>Harvard Park. So for me, just being able to resonate

474
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:26.039
<v Speaker 7>everything around that for our community really gave us the

475
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:27.960
<v Speaker 7>worth all to want to be there, to let them

476
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:28.920
<v Speaker 7>know that we still care.

477
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:33.000
<v Speaker 5>Darryl, for you, how much did Harvard Park mean to you?

478
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 5>And to be able to go back and you get

479
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.200
<v Speaker 5>to la with the Dodgers a year before Eric did.

480
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Did that all of it bring it full circle?

481
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Well?

482
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:46.000
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, of course it brought it full circle. But Harbor

483
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:49.319
<v Speaker 9>Park was always Barbara Park for us, you know, because

484
00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 9>there was a community of us growing up in and

485
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.200
<v Speaker 9>we will always want to go back and be a

486
00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.839
<v Speaker 9>part of that. We want to be a part of people.

487
00:25:58.039 --> 00:25:59.960
<v Speaker 9>I think that was the most important thing for me

488
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.319
<v Speaker 9>and Eric. You know, yeah, we were million dollar ball players,

489
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.640
<v Speaker 9>but here we were working out in the ghetto with

490
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 9>trash cans. So we were making a statement and everybody

491
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:13.640
<v Speaker 9>was wondering, Yeah, everybody's wondering why these guys are not

492
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 9>up at U c l A. Or USC were, like,

493
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:22.240
<v Speaker 9>we didn't grow up in Westwood, yeah wherever UCLA is,

494
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:23.960
<v Speaker 9>And we didn't grow up in See. We didn't grow

495
00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 9>up and you know, we didn't go to those schools.

496
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 9>He went to Fremont, I went to Crenshaw, and we

497
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 9>played on parks like these, and the reminder for us

498
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:35.200
<v Speaker 9>going back there was to make people understand that these

499
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 9>parks like this breed major League Baseball players like myself,

500
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 9>Ic Davis, Chris Brown, you can go on along the list.

501
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 9>Eddie and Ozzie and all the different guys that come

502
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 9>from southern California played in some of the same places

503
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.519
<v Speaker 9>we played in out in Compton, you know, we played

504
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 9>out there. But Harvard Park was very special to us

505
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.599
<v Speaker 9>because there was a neighborhood full of trouble, full of crime,

506
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:00.559
<v Speaker 9>and we were the only guys that were and they

507
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.559
<v Speaker 9>had gangs in that area, and we were like the

508
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:06.880
<v Speaker 9>only guys nobody would ever touch think about touching coming

509
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 9>in that neighborhood. They would walk around what we were

510
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.279
<v Speaker 9>doing there, and they thought it was just amazing that

511
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 9>we would be a part of a community like this

512
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:20.559
<v Speaker 9>that we know so much about and know the trouble

513
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:24.079
<v Speaker 9>that was there. But at the same time, we realized

514
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 9>that this is home for us, and we need to

515
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 9>let young people and young athletes see that. You know,

516
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 9>you can come out of here and be very successful.

517
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 5>Eric Davis and Darryl Strawberry are joining us on Dodger Talk.

518
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:40.480
<v Speaker 5>And the one thing that I said about you two

519
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 5>guys before you came on, not only were you really

520
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:47.880
<v Speaker 5>great baseball players, you're great people. Number one and number two.

521
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 5>You made everything you did cool, from the high top

522
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 5>shoes that you wore to working out at Harvard Park.

523
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 5>Do you feel like some of the swag in the

524
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 5>style is missing from baseball all these days the way

525
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.400
<v Speaker 5>you guys used to do it. And like I mentioned

526
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 5>Harvard Park, you guys made it cool to want to

527
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:06.160
<v Speaker 5>be there.

528
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 10>Oh there, let me just add them real quick man

529
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 10>swag is not something you give yourself. Okay, this generation

530
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 10>creates their own swag. That's why you have so many

531
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 10>people that are branding themselves. Swag is something that someone

532
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:24.279
<v Speaker 10>else gives you.

533
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

534
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.160
<v Speaker 7>If they saw dyl Strawberry, they was like, there he

535
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:33.839
<v Speaker 7>is watched, They went to watch, they went to sit down.

536
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.680
<v Speaker 7>His name was ringing. When we were ten years old.

537
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 7>That swag. When you went to Prinshaw to watch the

538
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 7>the basketball team play, you was trying to figure out

539
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.279
<v Speaker 7>where was he there? He is right there. That's your swag.

540
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 7>When other people talk about you in that light, that's

541
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.519
<v Speaker 7>your swag. Now you have guys now that give themselves

542
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 7>nicknames and doctor themselves up. They instag, they show, they

543
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:04.000
<v Speaker 7>do a lot of different things to create the attention,

544
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 7>but their game don't highlight their swag. Swag is something

545
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 7>that somebody else gives you. So what you saw was

546
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:17.680
<v Speaker 7>the natural essence of what we was all about. Style

547
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.960
<v Speaker 7>and charisma is something that we was all about from

548
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 7>a kid, and it wasn't something that transcended or turned

549
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.119
<v Speaker 7>into once we got to the major leagues. And so

550
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 7>by us liking the things that we were doing and

551
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 7>entertaining the people from a young age, that created our swag,

552
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 7>and then that just materialized over time because the better

553
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Speaker 7>you performed, the better swag you got, you know what

554
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 7>I'm saying. So him being an ultimate and me being

555
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 7>an ultimate, we was driven by that. Swag just consumed us.

556
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 7>And that's what people really know about you, is about

557
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 7>how you performed, not what you say on Instagram or

558
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 7>Facebook or whatever.

559
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 5>Daryl, you're on Instagram, you see all that. Yeah, I'm

560
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 5>sure you agree.

561
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:09.880
<v Speaker 9>With Eric, Well yeah, yeah, but I understand that in there.

562
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 9>It's clearly clear about that. You know, the swag. Swag

563
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 9>is what you know. It's not something that we label

564
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:18.440
<v Speaker 9>ourselves to be. Is it what people make you out

565
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 9>of because of they watch you and they see you

566
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 9>and and we didn't really have We had a different

567
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 9>style about us. Us swag was like you know, from

568
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 9>the ghetto. You know, we wasn't nobody gave us a

569
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.240
<v Speaker 9>spoon and gave us anything. We had to work for it.

570
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 9>We had to work hard. We come from some very

571
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.839
<v Speaker 9>difficult times and situations, and you know, we had to

572
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 9>build who we were. We had to we had to

573
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.759
<v Speaker 9>fight our way through neighborhoods and you know, the gangs

574
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 9>and everything that was around us to play ball and

575
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 9>stuff like that. So you know, we we developed, we

576
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 9>developed who we were by stepping on the field and performing.

577
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 9>I mean, it just clearly showed that, you know, when

578
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 9>we played little together and you know, and Eric was

579
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 9>a short stop batting the leadoff and I was hitting third,

580
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.400
<v Speaker 9>Chris Brown was hitting for you imagine a lineup like

581
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 9>that with guys in there, and you got to face

582
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 9>those type of hitters like that, and then we get

583
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:12.720
<v Speaker 9>to the big leagues and then we take it to

584
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 9>a whole nother level. You know, Eric takes the game

585
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 9>to a whole another level as a as a player

586
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 9>that you know, hits over thirty home runs, still eighty bags,

587
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 9>you know, doing things like that, doing doing things that

588
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 9>players was not doing and in the air and the

589
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 9>time that we came up and players today are not

590
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.640
<v Speaker 9>even doing that the kind of players we were back

591
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 9>in the day. So you know, that's what really gave us,

592
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.960
<v Speaker 9>you know, brought the attention of who we were because

593
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:39.960
<v Speaker 9>we were different. You know, we come from a different

594
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 9>place and we played the game a different way.

595
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 5>How much did you guys take from where you came

596
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 5>onto the into the minor leagues and onto the major

597
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 5>league stage. Do you feel like everything you guys went

598
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 5>through off the field helped you be better players on

599
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 5>the field when you got to this type of situations

600
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 5>where there were a lot of attention and pressure gets

601
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.079
<v Speaker 5>a little bit higher. Did you feel like all the

602
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 5>pressure of trying to survive was bigger than anything you

603
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 5>were going to face in the big leagues.

604
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 7>Uh, the pressure and how to survive in South Central

605
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 7>was way harder trying to make it to the major leagues.

606
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

607
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, just going to school, the towsand tribulations, I mean,

608
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 7>having a fight that had your letterman jacket or your

609
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 7>or your Walla Bees or your biscuits or or someone

610
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 7>trying to take you another code or your bomber jacket

611
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 7>going here and there. I was more afraid of my

612
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 7>mama than I was anybody on the street. And if

613
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.400
<v Speaker 7>I came home and I didn't have my bomber jacket,

614
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.119
<v Speaker 7>I was going to deal with my mama. And so

615
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 7>right on the street was second nature to me and

616
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 7>Gondirl the same way Ruby was that tough the rocks

617
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 7>for all of his siblings and stuff. So knowing that

618
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 7>going to play a game that that you grew up

619
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 7>playing on dirt with glass and different things of that nature. See,

620
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 7>they give the guys from Latin America that create about

621
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 7>where they came from and out they played. We did

622
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:16.960
<v Speaker 7>it the same way in the parking recreations. That's why

623
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 7>Straw was so intimate about us playing at Harvard Park,

624
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 7>Ross Snyder, Jackie Robinson all dirt in fields. We didn't

625
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:27.559
<v Speaker 7>have the grass and fields and all those types of

626
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:29.640
<v Speaker 7>things and stuff. So when you got to the point

627
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.680
<v Speaker 7>to where, uh, I'm gonna tell you a story. Actually,

628
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.079
<v Speaker 7>we had a County MAC team and like eighteen of

629
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 7>our guys off our County MAC team to got drafted right,

630
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 7>and we won the Pacific Regionals at Compton and we

631
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 7>went up to Seattle, Washington, right, and so they put

632
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.640
<v Speaker 7>us on. After we landed, they took us to the

633
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 7>field and we just started laughing because the guys was like,

634
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 7>y'all laughing, what y'all laughing? We got we playing here,

635
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 7>and they was like, yeah, the most home runs in

636
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 7>the tournament was seven. We hit six the first night

637
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 7>and we broke the record. Because we were used to

638
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 7>playing in open spaces where guys could play all the

639
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 7>way back to the swimming pool or something. So when

640
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.679
<v Speaker 7>you saw a nice beautiful field, they was gonna get it,

641
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 7>and they got it. So knowing all of that and

642
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 7>then taking that into the minor leagues, it wasn't if

643
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:33.079
<v Speaker 7>for us it was wintered.

644
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, was that the same experience for you?

645
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 7>David Strong hit the ball in that ballpark that they

646
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 7>still looking for they ain't found it. It's almost forty.

647
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 6>So you know, doubt it was.

648
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:49.639
<v Speaker 9>So it was so incredible. I mean, it was so

649
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 9>incredible for us to grow up, you know, actually where

650
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.880
<v Speaker 9>we grew up in South Central and become you know,

651
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 9>major league baseball players. I think, like Ed was saying,

652
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 9>most people, we don't know. The challenges were more difficult

653
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 9>for us, you know, walking to school and being challenged

654
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 9>by people from different neighborhoods and things like that that

655
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.159
<v Speaker 9>we had to deal with. Putting the uniform on was

656
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 9>easy for us, you know, because think about it, we

657
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.039
<v Speaker 9>both played basketball. Eric played for Free Mind, I played

658
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 9>for Current Shall. We played basketball. Then we go crossover

659
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 9>and we go into baseball, and we get into baseball,

660
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 9>and playing baseball was just really easy for us, you know,

661
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 9>but we were so determined. Me and Eric was different

662
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.159
<v Speaker 9>than everybody else because we saw guys get drafted before us,

663
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 9>and we saw how they were when they responded when

664
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 9>they came back, and we just used to say to ourselves,

665
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 9>they have not seen nothing until we get into the league,

666
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 9>because we're going to be totally different, different type of

667
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 9>players because they didn't have Most people didn't have the

668
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.039
<v Speaker 9>ability that me and Eric had. We had such a

669
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 9>high level five two two ability to play the game

670
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 9>and i Q for the i Q was so high

671
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 9>for the game and understanding the game the way it

672
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 9>should be played at such a different level, and I

673
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.280
<v Speaker 9>think most people would never really recognize that. They didn't

674
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 9>recognize us until we actually entered into the big leagues

675
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 9>and realized and started playing the way we started to play,

676
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 9>and they was like, Wow, I never seen anything like this.

677
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 9>Would you know these two guys play at such a

678
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 9>high level like we did.

679
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 5>I could say this flat out. I mean, I'm not

680
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 5>as old as you guys, but I watched you guys play,

681
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.639
<v Speaker 5>and I would say that you two guys were two

682
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 5>of the best players I ever seen play baseball. But

683
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.320
<v Speaker 5>all I hear about is how good you guys were

684
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 5>at basketball. So did you guys ever go head to

685
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 5>head at Fremont Crenshaw. Did you guys ever play guard

686
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 5>each other? I thought maybe might want to switch. I thought,

687
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 5>maybe you might want to switch.

688
00:36:52.800 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 7>I can do with him on the I was and

689
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 7>and uh, and the star was a quarterback at Prinshaw.

690
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.679
<v Speaker 7>I got recruited to to play football. They didn't even

691
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 7>know I played basketball or baseball. So the the ability

692
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 7>to be more time talented has left a whole lot

693
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 7>of our black athletes because of it's such a high

694
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.400
<v Speaker 7>profile sports now that they're putting all their marbles into

695
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 7>basketball or all their marbles into football. We could our

696
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:39.480
<v Speaker 7>marbles into sports and then let our talents take us

697
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.559
<v Speaker 7>where we wanted to go. But it gave us options.

698
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 7>The Straw could have went to any school he wanted to.

699
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:47.360
<v Speaker 7>I could have went to almost any school that I

700
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:52.800
<v Speaker 7>wanted to. So the options of being multi colleged helped us.

701
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 7>In baseball, I was able to jump over the fence

702
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 7>because I could have dump backwards.

703
00:37:57.880 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

704
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.119
<v Speaker 7>It was so many different garls that I took from

705
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 7>the basketball court onto the baseball and Searan did the

706
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:08.639
<v Speaker 7>same time. I mean, he could run jump through all

707
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 7>the different anchors of him being a quarterback was which

708
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 7>his mom was so small. So you have to know

709
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 7>how to diversify and put things kind of around you

710
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 7>to allow each sport to give you saulting and and

711
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 7>knowing all the great athletes that came from south Centralinia.

712
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.719
<v Speaker 7>The ball was said h even for baseball at the

713
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 7>at UH the Prince or Ellis Valentine and the guys

714
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 7>and Artie Johnson and wanted to tire. It was so

715
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 7>many different players that you saw, even from front with

716
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 7>chet Lemon and Danny Paul and Barbie Tua. You had

717
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 7>Uh the Dorsey and Manuel in Washington and Jefferson, so

718
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 7>you had West. So you had so much talent where

719
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 7>you had to measure up where you was gonna get

720
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 7>sit there. You know, you had to cover the place.

721
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 7>So was the competition at such a little at lower

722
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 7>level for us Pat Warner and those things were so

723
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 7>competitive that when we got to play against guys our age,

724
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 7>because we always played against guys older than us, and

725
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 7>so so when we got to play against guys our age,

726
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.639
<v Speaker 7>they was in trouble. They they was in trouble right right.

727
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 7>That's so true because you make that so clear. Because

728
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 7>we grew up around so many different players and our coach,

729
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 7>Earl Brown, who coached us in the Summer League. All

730
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 7>he talked about is all these other players. Oh, you

731
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 7>guys not better than Eddie and Ozzie. You know, he

732
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 7>just he just built us up inside to be better

733
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 7>than guys like that because they came through the same place,

734
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:43.920
<v Speaker 7>playing out the accompidence.

735
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 6>Eddie and Ozzie.

736
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 9>They did this, and they did that. We used to

737
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 9>say nothing, guys. Yeah, Willie calls so many kid, there

738
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.679
<v Speaker 9>were so many. Yeah, it was many of them a

739
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 9>head of us, and you know, and he kept always,

740
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:05.960
<v Speaker 9>you know, putting it in our ears and me and

741
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.039
<v Speaker 9>Ed was like, well, we only to stamp on this

742
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 9>because when we when we get out of here and

743
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 9>we get to the major League, it's gonna be a

744
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:14.159
<v Speaker 9>different ball game because they ain't gonna be to do

745
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.960
<v Speaker 9>the kind of things that we're gonna do. Like he said,

746
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:19.000
<v Speaker 9>you know, we could jump, you can get over he

747
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 9>going over the watch. See I would have had forty

748
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 9>home runs, but Eric got this war. I mean, if

749
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 9>he had to go over the wall and stay stadium

750
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 9>and take one of my home runs and then the

751
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.880
<v Speaker 9>other day, then the next day he throws me out

752
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 9>at third base trying to go from first to third,

753
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:36.400
<v Speaker 9>and I was like, oh, you're supposed to hey, right

754
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:41.159
<v Speaker 9>that David Starar's hard hitted. I told him to pull

755
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.000
<v Speaker 9>the ball like before he get going on the bus

756
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 9>outside the little state. So I told him to be

757
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 9>disrespectful by tagging up on merespectful when we was kids,

758
00:40:54.840 --> 00:41:00.320
<v Speaker 9>but we was in the Apple. It was naturally televised

759
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:05.480
<v Speaker 9>im And then he took me to dinner and we

760
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 9>had a good time after the game. So in between

761
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:11.960
<v Speaker 9>the lines, our competitor jus was just that.

762
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's the one thing I always wondered about you guys.

763
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 5>Did you did you know Straw got his World Series

764
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 5>before you did? D Was there any of that kind

765
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 5>of trash talking between you guys?

766
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 4>No?

767
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 9>No, never, no never. It was always the best, It

768
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 9>was after the best. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you how

769
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.440
<v Speaker 9>humble dryl was and still is. As I might add,

770
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 9>is that even when he went Rookie of the Year,

771
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 9>we went to the Laker games, and we would always

772
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:47.039
<v Speaker 9>go to Laker games and everybody was telling Daryl congratulations

773
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 9>and was hanging around him, but all he could say

774
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 9>was wait till my partner comes.

775
00:41:53.559 --> 00:42:00.119
<v Speaker 7>Nothing became. And that's how humble he was, was that

776
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 7>he was always saying, don't y'all think I'm good.

777
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 6>Wait till he come.

778
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 7>And so no matter where the situations we were, he

779
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.559
<v Speaker 7>always looked out for everybody that was around it. So

780
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 7>they became my turn. I did the same thing. I

781
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 7>looked up to all the guys from Brown and the

782
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.000
<v Speaker 7>guys that That's how our program was was. It wasn't

783
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.679
<v Speaker 7>just about man Daryl. It was about every one of

784
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 7>us who came to be hung her. And that was

785
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 7>one of the reasons why we started the program, was

786
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 7>to give so many different guys the opportunity to see

787
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 7>how also when they made it, then they would do

788
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 7>the same thing and the team would be going and

789
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 7>going and going. So Strong was really the leader of

790
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.920
<v Speaker 7>that because he made it to the major league first,

791
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 7>and he showed us the way and he helped us

792
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.440
<v Speaker 7>get there by how how hard he was. And it's

793
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.679
<v Speaker 7>it's something that needs to be clarified. It's because when

794
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 7>you have black athletes who are challenged, they think we

795
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 7>don't work hard because we're so kind. But if you

796
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 7>would have watched the weights and the and the running

797
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 7>and the things that we did every day, then you

798
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 7>would have saw that. But he lied in that. He

799
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 7>was the first one of us. I can remember that

800
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 7>started lifting weights and stuff when he had a personal

801
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Speaker 7>trainer first, and I'm like, what you doing with that? No, dog,

802
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:26.800
<v Speaker 7>we got to keep grunting. Okay, then I have to go.

803
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 7>Because she led that. That's the kind of individual he was.

804
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 9>That's why he was so successful. Well that's true. Thanks

805
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 9>he but that we were all like that together because

806
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 9>we were like brothers, we were like the family. And

807
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.679
<v Speaker 9>the thing about it, David, is we cared about all

808
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.880
<v Speaker 9>our younger players coming underneath us, you know, like the

809
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 9>Royce Clayton, you know, he comes from underneath us, you know,

810
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:53.119
<v Speaker 9>learning out there with us, and we taught him to

811
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.400
<v Speaker 9>have the mentality to be strong and learn how to

812
00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:59.320
<v Speaker 9>go through the adversities of sports. Is gonna be there

813
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 9>and you're gonna have some learned to deal with it.

814
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 9>So it was just it came from all of us,

815
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 9>you know, it came from It really came from me

816
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 9>and Eve because we were like the cornerstone and everything

817
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.400
<v Speaker 9>around there when it came to the program, because the

818
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:15.239
<v Speaker 9>program was about Harvard Park and it was about where

819
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.119
<v Speaker 9>we come out of and where we never leave. And

820
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 9>I think that's what really made us great because we

821
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 9>never forgot where we came from. And there was no egos.

822
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 9>You know, it was all about It wasn't about being selfish.

823
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 9>It was about us lifting each other up and encouraging

824
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 9>each each other. And like erk Sin, I wonder took

825
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 9>get here, but I was like, you guys, wait, my

826
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 9>boy is coming. He is bad. You guys have never

827
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.840
<v Speaker 9>seen anything like this here. I'm telling you you just

828
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 9>waiting until you see it. And once they got a

829
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 9>chance to see it, they realized, like wow, these are

830
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:52.719
<v Speaker 9>like true guys that come out of South Central that

831
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.519
<v Speaker 9>really built their own legacy the way they wanted to

832
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 9>build it. Now, some way somebody else should have said

833
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 9>it should have been the way we decided that it

834
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 9>was going to be. And we was going to help

835
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 9>all these younger players, like I said, that were around us,

836
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 9>because all the young players at the program. People need

837
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 9>to go watch Harbor Park, they need to go see that.

838
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:13.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you something, Dave.

839
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 7>And and and just how how much Giryl and myself

840
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 7>connect the two guys coming from South Central. We weren't

841
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 7>put on an average pedestal girl was supposed to be

842
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 7>the next Ted Williams, one of the greatest players and

843
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 7>not one of the top three players of all time,

844
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 7>and I was supposed to be. The players had carried

845
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 7>that type of baggage as eighteen to nineteen year old.

846
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 7>We had to live with that and and to move

847
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 7>through the minor leagues and to move through the major league.

848
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:04.320
<v Speaker 7>I can't call a player of my era and Straw's

849
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 7>era that was dealt with that kind of pressure as

850
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 7>a tangent. And and did we get there. No, But

851
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 7>it wasn't because of the talent and the way we played.

852
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:23.360
<v Speaker 7>It was because of injury and the way I played

853
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:27.039
<v Speaker 7>and the way Daryl played, how how he got hurt.

854
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:28.679
<v Speaker 7>We would have had so much.

855
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.519
<v Speaker 4>Fun and and winning.

856
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:38.199
<v Speaker 7>Here in l A. He hurt his back, I had

857
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 7>triple surgery. But if you go back and look at

858
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 7>our records on the game that we played together, we

859
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:50.880
<v Speaker 7>were we We was tearing people up sports the way

860
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:56.079
<v Speaker 7>of of of changing the narrow behind something on the

861
00:46:56.239 --> 00:47:00.360
<v Speaker 7>aftermon Uh. People ask me all the time, it would

862
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:01.559
<v Speaker 7>you change something.

863
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 4>And I'll be like no, because of the way.

864
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 7>That I went about it, the people that I went

865
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.039
<v Speaker 7>through what I went through with I wouldn't have changed

866
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.239
<v Speaker 7>how I played. I wouldn't changed the people that I

867
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.079
<v Speaker 7>played with. I wouldn't have changed our friendship. I would

868
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 7>have changed how we run. I wouldn't have played all

869
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 7>the bad things we went through, and I wouldn't changed

870
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.480
<v Speaker 7>men the good things, because everything that we went through

871
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:27.400
<v Speaker 7>is the reason that we're the people that we are

872
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 7>today at fifty eight years old. So to me, that

873
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 7>story is still going on. There's still more chapters. Look

874
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:41.000
<v Speaker 7>at what he's doing now. And it's ironic that we

875
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 7>both now don't live in California and we go back

876
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 7>because of how the chapters in our lives have taken

877
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.679
<v Speaker 7>us other places to do things with people that we

878
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 7>never thought that we would do, not just in baseball,

879
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:56.800
<v Speaker 7>but away from baseball. That's what I'm thought of it,

880
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, girls, part of the same thing.

881
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Yl, go ahead.

882
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 9>No I am. I'm really proud of me and Eric

883
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.000
<v Speaker 9>And when I look back and I reflect back on

884
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 9>what it was like, how we were growing up and

885
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 9>who we were in LA and we came out. We

886
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 9>came out of California with more hype than any any

887
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 9>player I think in the history of baseball being like

888
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 9>Eric said, me being Ted Williams the next Ted Williams

889
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 9>and him being Willie Mays. And I don't think anybody

890
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.000
<v Speaker 9>really understands what that's like, you know, to be able

891
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.400
<v Speaker 9>to carry that and have to have that on us.

892
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:35.880
<v Speaker 9>And and the way we played in the game, and

893
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 9>we played the win all the time. It was lights out,

894
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 9>you know. And we wasn't just a one demential player,

895
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.199
<v Speaker 9>you know, we were we were players where you know, we

896
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.039
<v Speaker 9>hit home runs, we steal bases, we played the field,

897
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 9>we run scored and we I mean, we did it all.

898
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 9>And that that took a grind on who we were physically,

899
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.440
<v Speaker 9>and then the body starts to break down. You start

900
00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 9>having the injuries, like their said, and you know, and

901
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.280
<v Speaker 9>of course you know, I come through the troubles of

902
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:04.960
<v Speaker 9>my life with the addiction part too, so that played

903
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 9>another part of slowing me down even more. And it's

904
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.519
<v Speaker 9>a real reality. But like he's like he was saying,

905
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.239
<v Speaker 9>who had made us today? When we look back at

906
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 9>who we were and when we see each other, we

907
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:20.360
<v Speaker 9>laughed because we had such a good time of being

908
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:24.559
<v Speaker 9>who we were in California growing up there exactly We'll

909
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 9>never forget that. We'll never forget that what that's really

910
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 9>like and what what it was like growing up there,

911
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.039
<v Speaker 9>because when you look at all the people that have

912
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:33.719
<v Speaker 9>come through Southern California and all the players, you know,

913
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 9>I remember the players we played blank and ship them

914
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 9>and I think that we did them in the playoffs

915
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 9>and they were supposed to be hot stuff. Yeah Bush, Yeah,

916
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:44.400
<v Speaker 9>we beat them. We beat them out of the component and stuff.

917
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 9>You know, it was just you know, it was us,

918
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.039
<v Speaker 9>you know, us with me, Eric and Chris Brown. And

919
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.039
<v Speaker 9>Chris Brown was a part of us too in those days,

920
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 9>you know, when we were growing up. But me and

921
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 9>Eric uh put ourselves in a position. And I remember

922
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 9>sitting there kind of you know, at the stage him

923
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 9>and Eric was drafted and I was number one. I

924
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 9>was still holding out. He said, man, dog, I gotta go.

925
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:13.400
<v Speaker 9>I gotta get going. You know, I didn't have any

926
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 9>much hold.

927
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 6>Oh I didn't have any record.

928
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.880
<v Speaker 9>He didn't know, he didn't taking but he knew what

929
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 9>the thing about it was what makes me so proud

930
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 9>of Ericus. He knew where he was going. See like

931
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 9>those players, I knew where I was going. He knew

932
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.679
<v Speaker 9>where he was going. We knew that we wasn't gonna

933
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 9>fall shore. We knew that one day we would be

934
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.719
<v Speaker 9>in the show, and it was just a matter of time.

935
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 2>That is a bucket list childhood dream. Talking to Eric

936
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Davis and Darryl Strawberry. Ronnie will podcast that interview again.

937
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 2>It was from twenty twenty, but worth sharing again. Thanks

938
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to hory A Casti you, thanks to the straw and

939
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Ed for their help, and thank you to Ronnie Fossio.

940
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 2>We will be back with you tomorrow at three o'clock

941
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:59.159
<v Speaker 2>for a pregame first pitch at four to ten between

942
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers, and that's Cruse shaw Day right here on

943
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 2>AM five seventy LA Sports. Thanks again Ronnie Fascio and

944
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 2>thanks to you for listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

945
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<v Speaker 2>See you