Speaker 1: It's eyes Dan Untell you Mazy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, interesting story today if you are a political junkie,
Speaker 2: and a lot of us are political junkies who listened
Speaker 2: to Nightside. The General Executive Board of the International Brotherhood
Speaker 2: of Teamsters decided not to endorse any candidate for president
Speaker 2: of the United States. Now, the Teamster represents about one
Speaker 2: point three million members. That's a lot of members. You
Speaker 2: might remember that Sean O'Brien, who's the president of the Teamsters,
Speaker 2: spoke before the Republican Convention in July. He said, today, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: not the major candidate was able to make serious commitments
Speaker 2: to our union to ensure the interest of working people
Speaker 2: are always put before big business, said President Sean O'Brien.
Speaker 2: He added that the union quote sought commitments from both
Speaker 2: Trump and the Harris to both Trump and Harris not
Speaker 2: to interfere in critical union campaigns or court Teamster industries,
Speaker 2: and to honor a member's right to strike, but they
Speaker 2: were unable to secure those pledges unquote. Now, as I mentioned,
Speaker 2: O'Brien was a speaker. He was invited to speak at
Speaker 2: the Republican National Convention, and he did. I guess he
Speaker 2: didn't get a similar invitation from the Democrats a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and faced the nation, he talked about
Speaker 2: that this is cut number twenty nine, rob on our cutsheet,
Speaker 2: Cut twenty nine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, whatever the critics out there, and
Speaker 1: they are very few in the leadership, whenever I get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to highlight the American worker, especially the teams
Speaker 1: to worker, I'm going to take any and all venue.
Speaker 1: We asked both conventions respectively at the same time, and
Speaker 1: the Republican National Convention immediately responded to us, didn't try
Speaker 1: and edit edding of our messages, and I was hopeful
Speaker 1: that the Democrats would do the same, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: I'm not upset about it, but I can tell you this,
Speaker 1: my rank and file members, who have been lifelong Democrats
Speaker 1: are not happy about it.
Speaker 2: So in the run up to this decision, the Teamsters
Speaker 2: have run some polls of their members, and maybe it
Speaker 2: would be surprising for you to find out that the
Speaker 2: Teamsters released the results of an electronic poll of Teamster's
Speaker 2: members which show showed fifty nine point six percent let's
Speaker 2: round it to sixty percent supporting a Trump endorsement. Compared
Speaker 2: to thirty four percent supporting a Harris endorsement. This is interesting.
Speaker 2: This is interesting. The Teamsters have endorsed every Democratic candidate
Speaker 2: presidential candidate of this century, starting with Al Gore in
Speaker 2: two thousand, John Kerry in twenty twenty four, President Obama
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight and in twenty and twelve,
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, Joe Biden in twenty and twenty.
Speaker 2: So that's when you think about it. If you list
Speaker 2: go to the list, it's Gore, Kerry twice for President Obama,
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden. So you have to go back
Speaker 2: to nineteen ninety six when the Teamsters union did not
Speaker 2: endorse the Democrat and they chose not to endorse Bill
Speaker 2: Clinton in nineteen ninety six because he had just signed
Speaker 2: the NAFTA deal, which was a sellout of a union
Speaker 2: of unions by a Democratic resident ironically, so this is
Speaker 2: a big step. They didn't endorse Donald Trump. But in
Speaker 2: my opinion, and it's only my opinion, this is a
Speaker 2: moment in the campaign that could be a game changer.
Speaker 2: Now I know that there's still a little less than
Speaker 2: seven weeks, seven weeks. I think it's forty eight days,
Speaker 2: not that I'm counting, and Donald Trump could say something
Speaker 2: crazy tomorrow. He says something's crazy so far. But I
Speaker 2: think this is a game changer, big time game changer.
Speaker 2: So I want to know what you think this could hurt.
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. Those are areas with
Speaker 2: a lot of Teamster's Union members and their families, and
Speaker 2: you know that Teamster families will vote as one. I
Speaker 2: think that's pretty apparent. Okay, that is the history of
Speaker 2: the union. So I have one more SoundBite here from
Speaker 2: two weeks ago on Face the Nation, and this is
Speaker 2: cut number thirty. Rob If you play this one O'Brien
Speaker 2: explaining why he spoke at the Iron c Why wouldn't
Speaker 2: he speak at the.
Speaker 3: Iron c oh I spoke there because it was the
Speaker 3: ability to highlight how important we are. It was the
Speaker 3: ability to call out the people, the corporate elitist who
Speaker 3: forget who built this country, the American workers. You know,
Speaker 3: people like to you know, have their own opinions on
Speaker 3: why we were there, But I was there to talk
Speaker 3: about the American workers.
Speaker 1: It wasn't an endorsement for any and all Republicans. It
Speaker 1: was strictly a message about how important and how valuable
Speaker 1: we are and to let the people know that fight
Speaker 1: us every day.
Speaker 2: That went out going away. So that's his explanation clearly.
Speaker 2: I think Vice President Harris Kamala Harris was with the
Speaker 2: executive board of the Teamsters. I believe it was Monday,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm sure she was pleading with them
Speaker 2: to do what they have done in the past, and
Speaker 2: that is support Democrats. Now, there were at different times
Speaker 2: in the past. I think that Richard Nixon might have
Speaker 2: gotten an endorsement in one of his elections. I think
Speaker 2: President Reagan might have gotten an endorsement. George Bush forty
Speaker 2: one may have gotten an endorsement. But since two thousand
Speaker 2: it's been Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, no endorsement.
Speaker 2: That's a generation of teams to members who it was
Speaker 2: going to be interesting. I think this is a game changer.
Speaker 2: It's something that the Democrats, I think are going to
Speaker 2: have to work on and I'd love to know what
Speaker 2: you think. We'll take a quick break. It is eleven
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Speaker 4: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 4: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We are in the WBC Nightside studios, and let's get
Speaker 2: to the phone callers who are not but that's okay.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get to them right now. We'll see what
Speaker 2: people have to say here on Nightside. Let me pull
Speaker 2: it up. Let's go right to let me live. I've
Speaker 2: missed up here a little bit. Rob. Let me get
Speaker 2: rid of a couple of these. Here we go, going
Speaker 2: to go to John and Newton. First. John, you are
Speaker 2: next up, first up this hour and Nightside. Your thought
Speaker 2: about the teamster's decision not to endorse John?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Any damn yeah, my thought about the teamster's not
Speaker 5: to endorse. Well, you know, I think that the teams
Speaker 5: have sometimes shocked us with these you know, new endorsements
Speaker 5: that they don't stand behind, and you know, it's just
Speaker 5: it's kind of a shame. Really is a shame that
Speaker 5: they're not pulling this out for this guy.
Speaker 2: So so who did who did? Did you expect them
Speaker 2: to endorse Harris or Trump?
Speaker 5: Well, a lot of people like Trump. You know, I
Speaker 5: really can't tell you. It doesn't shock me that they hunt,
Speaker 5: you know, standing by the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: Really. I mean, for the last six presidential elections, going
Speaker 2: all the way back to two thousand, they've endorsed a Democrat,
Speaker 2: including twice they endorsed Democrat against Donald Trump. He will
Speaker 2: be Clinton in twenty sixteen and Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: Well, sometimes I think Trump isn't even really there. He's
Speaker 5: he's like a character, you know, he's at least on
Speaker 5: my side of everything, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me try to figure out where you are.
Speaker 2: Are you a Trump supporter or a Harris supporter?
Speaker 5: I'm I'm whoever's going to send me to space supporter,
Speaker 5: But you know, I do like I do like Trump
Speaker 5: and I actually I do like Carris as well, and
Speaker 5: I tell everybody, hey, I think Joe Biden is the
Speaker 5: best president right now.
Speaker 2: He is. I will, I will agree Biden president right now.
Speaker 2: He's the only president right now ahead.
Speaker 5: He's he's the real president. He's actually the real president.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this. Are you undecided
Speaker 2: between Trump and Harris? Truly undecided?
Speaker 5: Am I undecided? I don't. I don't really know. I
Speaker 5: just whatever, I don't know. I have. I have a
Speaker 5: few connections to President Trump, so I know, you know,
Speaker 5: I know that I know some people to know him,
Speaker 5: and uh so I like to make that person happy.
Speaker 2: But well, in the voting both you could vote for
Speaker 2: whomever you want. No one's going to know who you
Speaker 2: vote for. So let me ask you. Did you vote
Speaker 2: for Joe Biden in twenty twenty No.
Speaker 5: No, I didn't. I missed voting. I just I got
Speaker 5: too busy.
Speaker 2: Okay, that can happen even with the mail in ballots
Speaker 2: and early voting. Did you vote for Trump in twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen against Hillary Clinton?
Speaker 5: I got too busy.
Speaker 2: So you haven't voted? When was the last presidential election
Speaker 2: you took? It? Took the time to voted.
Speaker 5: I think it was. I can't really twenty twenty sixteen,
Speaker 5: twenty twelve, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, in twenty twelve it was Mitt Romney and President.
Speaker 5: Obama Nam President Obama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the choices. Did you vote for either
Speaker 2: one of them?
Speaker 5: I voted. I definitely voted for President Obama.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So are you a Democrat more than
Speaker 2: a Republican? Don't? I guess I don't. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to put you on the spot. I just it sounds
Speaker 2: to me like you're actually voter.
Speaker 5: That I used to know was with President Bush. You know, Okay,
Speaker 5: the new the new, the new Republican Party is and
Speaker 5: I don't know, I really like President Bush. I liked
Speaker 5: President Bush. And I really really got to like Rumsfeld
Speaker 5: and Shay and those people.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 5: I like them a lot.
Speaker 2: Well, you were a Republican and you and you have
Speaker 2: they have fallen out of You're not a fan of Trump.
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. Keep me posted as
Speaker 2: to who you're going to vote for it because I think.
Speaker 5: You truly I like you know, I like them all.
Speaker 5: They're all good. They're all good people.
Speaker 2: They're all good people. Okay, Well, yeah, make sure you vote. Well, yes, sir, okay,
Speaker 2: thanks Johns, a great night. Good night. Let me go
Speaker 2: to Bill. Bill. I don't think you're undecided.
Speaker 6: No, No, that was a little confused.
Speaker 7: And I mean, yeah, you know, logically, even if you
Speaker 7: take a step back and you just look at call
Speaker 7: them A and call them B and don't look at personalities,
Speaker 7: don't look at whatever, just look at basic results, it's
Speaker 7: pretty clear if you're going to hire somebody, you know,
Speaker 7: who would you hire A or B? And uh, I
Speaker 7: think I go back to A because you know, things
Speaker 7: were a little lighter, you had a little more exit
Speaker 7: in your pocket. And uh, in the world Trump guy.
Speaker 2: So realizing you're a Trump guy, which is fine, what
Speaker 2: sort of an impact do you think this non endorsement
Speaker 2: by the Teamsters and again putting in his context.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean they are big, be honest with you.
Speaker 7: I didn't think they were going to do with anybody anyhow.
Speaker 7: I read the story. I actually just got back a
Speaker 7: few I was out in Michigan for a few days
Speaker 7: and ironically, and I was reading catching up while I
Speaker 7: was on the plane, and I think the team says
Speaker 7: it just kind of going, uh, you know, they're basically
Speaker 7: doing all the Union people I've met all the years,
Speaker 7: like the UAW. Right, yeah, they endorsed the Democrat, but
Speaker 7: that's the leadership. I came back from Michigan. My buddy
Speaker 7: lives up in Grand rapt In fact, Vance was there
Speaker 7: the day before, up by Spada, which where he lives.
Speaker 7: He had they had a rally up there and a
Speaker 7: lot of Trump signs. And if you talk to most
Speaker 7: of the ICE on the Sunday afternoon from the UAW
Speaker 7: they're all voting for Trump. So the fact that the
Speaker 7: Union sixty percent of them are voting for Trump, and
Speaker 7: I know some of the guys in UPS, it doesn't
Speaker 7: surprise me the teams because you know UPS drivers that
Speaker 7: I talked to the majority of them over the years.
Speaker 7: I've talked to very few guys they say. He used
Speaker 7: to laugh about it. We'd have coffee and see my union.
Speaker 7: I get a list of who to support. They're all Democrats.
Speaker 7: By I go in to booth, I vote Republican. They
Speaker 7: always told me, yes, well.
Speaker 2: But remember this look. And in twenty twenty President Trump
Speaker 2: lost Michigan, lost Wisconsin, and lost Pennsylvania. So you know,
Speaker 2: after four years, yeah, well those are critical vote.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I mean I could go down the list.
Speaker 7: There was a lot of stuff, but I'm happy to
Speaker 7: see they put some of the stuff back. They have
Speaker 7: the rarefied signature is now in Pennsylvania that came back.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to go back and retigate twenty.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say this. All I'm just saying
Speaker 2: is that this is a close race in my opinion,
Speaker 2: and this might be a day that we're going to
Speaker 2: look back and say the fact that one that a
Speaker 2: union representing one point three million members and their families
Speaker 2: which mail multiplies that political impact by three or four
Speaker 2: because you're talking about parents and siblings and spouses and
Speaker 2: maybe even kids. So you're talking about a lot of
Speaker 2: people here. And the Teamsters, which generally endorsed as a Democrat,
Speaker 2: didn't endorse Donald Trump, but chose not to endorse Vice
Speaker 2: President Harris.
Speaker 7: That's I'm also surprised that they didn't let O'Brien speak
Speaker 7: at the convention figuring what the Republicans did, and they
Speaker 7: gave him a good amount of time because I watched
Speaker 7: that speech and I was actually kind of impressed. I
Speaker 7: thought he got.
Speaker 2: A great amount of time and he was given a
Speaker 2: five time slot. He didn't. It was like he spoke
Speaker 2: at two in the afternoon when the hall was you know,
Speaker 2: one third of the delegates were there and everybody else
Speaker 2: was still waking up from the night before. So we'll see.
Speaker 2: And I think it's a big deal. But I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out, do you think today was a big
Speaker 2: deal or no?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say one to ten. It was maybe
Speaker 7: maybe a seven. I wouldn't say it a ten, and
Speaker 7: we rigged the scale, but I'd say it was a
Speaker 7: seven because they went against the grain. That alone, it
Speaker 7: is a big deal.
Speaker 5: Got it all.
Speaker 2: Right with you? Did you call as always? Let's see
Speaker 2: who else. I think it's a bigger deal than a seven,
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm overstating it. Let me go to Matt Brighton. Matt,
Speaker 2: you're next ten nights.
Speaker 5: I go ahead, Hey, you know, and then.
Speaker 2: Great, Matt, your thought on what the teamsays did not
Speaker 2: do today, Well, the leadership of the teams just did
Speaker 2: not do right.
Speaker 8: So I'm looking at, you know, the data, and you know,
Speaker 8: I like to go by facts, and I see the
Speaker 8: last time that they gave any real Republican support was
Speaker 8: around Reagan and Bush Senior since then. They in nineteen
Speaker 8: ninety six they did not back anybody, yep, but they
Speaker 8: you know, they backed Obama.
Speaker 9: They donated you.
Speaker 8: Know, haff A Junior and then the current. But Bryant
Speaker 8: what's his last name, O'Brien the current.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's a boss, the guy by the way from Charleston.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, from Medford or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe well might maybe live there now, but he
Speaker 2: grew up I think at Jostown. I hope to have
Speaker 2: him on the show. I've got to reaching out to
Speaker 2: him actually to be.
Speaker 8: Mean, yeah, and that would be great, you know, Okay,
Speaker 8: to hear I think I think the ultimate thing is
Speaker 8: I think today was important. I don't know how many
Speaker 8: of the voters across America are going to hear and
Speaker 8: notice this for those who are not part of unions
Speaker 8: that in effects. Someone like myself is not affected directly
Speaker 8: by this, but I think it speaks to because they also,
Speaker 8: you know, have leadership in Canada. I'm not leadership, but
Speaker 8: they also you know, represent unions in Canada, and I
Speaker 8: think them basically saying being mute on the subject, you know,
Speaker 8: is a mistake. Fifty eight percent wanted Trump, very low
Speaker 8: percentage compared to that wanted, Harris, And when you're in
Speaker 8: a union or when you're in a large group of people,
Speaker 8: all I could say is a majority rule like that
Speaker 8: should have some power and decision and not listening to
Speaker 8: or for lack of a better term, respecting that on
Speaker 8: some level.
Speaker 2: And you're telling me you're you're a little disappointed that
Speaker 2: they didn't endorse Trump.
Speaker 8: If if Yeah, well I get yes for the people
Speaker 8: by the percentage who said of the majority of the
Speaker 8: one point three million said we want Trump. Majority rules
Speaker 8: in many situations in life, and I think that that's
Speaker 8: what should it happen.
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, Matt, appreciate your call. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, as always, have a great one.
Speaker 9: No problem, all right here, Uh, let me.
Speaker 2: Go to Frank in Montreal. Frank, welcome to night Side.
Speaker 2: How are you tonight?
Speaker 6: Good Dan, Thanks a lot for taking my call. I've
Speaker 6: called once before and it was just interesting to hear
Speaker 6: your last caller reference Canada and the unions a very
Speaker 6: strong unions are actually almost too strong in Canada. But
Speaker 6: my take on the unions, and some people may be
Speaker 6: a guest at this statement, but they are basically corporate
Speaker 6: terrorists and you know, you have people who if you
Speaker 6: think about unions, originally, of course you needed them. People's
Speaker 6: rights were there were not a lot of job options.
Speaker 6: People were almost forced to work in certain conditions, and.
Speaker 2: Everyone would agree with that. Why do you call them
Speaker 2: corporate terrorists? Though? I mean, do you well you think that?
Speaker 2: Let me ask us, do you think people have a
Speaker 2: right to join unions?
Speaker 5: I hope of course you have the right.
Speaker 6: There are many options and job opportunities out there. If
Speaker 6: you don't like the conditions, if you don't like the job,
Speaker 6: get another job. No one's forcing you to work there.
Speaker 2: So if if, if you're if you're admitting that unions
Speaker 2: have a right, you know, to to exist and to
Speaker 2: and people have workers have a right to organize. There
Speaker 2: comes a time when the group says, hey, we have
Speaker 2: a we need to strike because they're not offering enough money,
Speaker 2: or there's some problem with working conditions or whatever. They
Speaker 2: have that right to do that. I don't think you
Speaker 2: can say to let's say, you know, five thousand people
Speaker 2: at a manufacturing plant, go find another job. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think there should be a balance. Don't you that
Speaker 2: that that that the unions, Yeah, they can strike, but
Speaker 2: at the same time. As they strike and they hurt
Speaker 2: the company, they're also kind of hurting themselves, and hopefully
Speaker 2: at the end everybody comes to a deal where probably
Speaker 2: no one is totally happy, but everybody gets a little
Speaker 2: bit of what they want and the company continues to
Speaker 2: produce widgets and make money for the shareholders as well
Speaker 2: as the employees. Isn't that ideally what was supposed to
Speaker 2: have happen?
Speaker 6: Well, but what can you not think that if, for example,
Speaker 6: if there was no union, and there are many companies
Speaker 6: where there are no unions, correct, and people are maybe
Speaker 6: not necessarily happy with conditions. But if people start to
Speaker 6: leave and say well, I'm going to go elsewhere, maybe
Speaker 6: to the competition, for example, eventually that employer is going
Speaker 6: to say, well, I'm better to either raise my wages
Speaker 6: or my working conditions or improve conditions, and you let
Speaker 6: a free economy sort of take over, and this way
Speaker 6: it's more equitable that way.
Speaker 2: Well, sounds to be like you don't think unions are
Speaker 2: really a part of a free economy, and that they
Speaker 2: tilt the power structure away from the companies.
Speaker 6: They do, and in fact, many people you know you're
Speaker 6: paying union dues, and how many people are actually I
Speaker 6: guess you're benefiting from maybe higher wages. But then you know,
Speaker 6: if you think about the teachers' union, which is very strong,
Speaker 6: I think probably in almost every state, it's certainly in Canada,
Speaker 6: it's very strong, and you think of these teachers who
Speaker 6: you know, young graduates who and by the way, for
Speaker 6: the record, I think teachers are so underpaid or not
Speaker 6: appreciated for what they do. But nonetheless it's sort of
Speaker 6: established or understood that they're overworked and underpaid. So you
Speaker 6: have students in new new graduates that become teachers and
Speaker 6: then shortly thereafter their striking, and I'm thinking you knew
Speaker 6: the deal going into it, so you know, again, if
Speaker 6: you don't have enough teacher as well, eventually do you say, well, hell,
Speaker 6: we better start paying these people what they deserve for
Speaker 6: giving me.
Speaker 2: I get that, I get that, But sometimes you have
Speaker 2: what one of my law school professors used to call
Speaker 2: an irreconcilable conflict, that you've reached a point where both
Speaker 2: sides just fundamentally disagree and the only way, the only
Speaker 2: thing the union can do if the union believes they're underpaid,
Speaker 2: you could say to the teachers, oh yeah, go find
Speaker 2: a better job somewhere else. But as individuals trying to
Speaker 2: go find a better job, they may have a difficult
Speaker 2: time doing that. And they're in the union because they
Speaker 2: they believe that in unity, their strength and all of that.
Speaker 2: I I I think that, Yeah, I think that the
Speaker 2: balance between businesses and corporations are good for both in
Speaker 2: my opinion. That's all. I'm a union member. I do
Speaker 2: not want to see any of my money used for
Speaker 2: political purposes. I want to see my money used to
Speaker 2: improve the working conditions, the relationships, you know, with the
Speaker 2: financial relationships. But I think you've opened up a big
Speaker 2: can of worms there that takes me a little bit
Speaker 2: away from my topic.
Speaker 6: I did, Sorry about that, but no problem, no problem, Okay,
Speaker 6: thanks for taking the call in the program.
Speaker 2: Frankly, what do you do up in What do you
Speaker 2: do up in Montreal?
Speaker 6: If I could ask, I own a company, okay, but
Speaker 6: we're too small to have you know, I'm self employed.
Speaker 2: But you know, how many do you have employees?
Speaker 6: Yes? A handful, yeah, a handful.
Speaker 2: Okay. So you're you're providing, you're providing work, and you're
Speaker 2: you're providing uh, job opportunities for people to feed their families.
Speaker 2: Which is wonderful and I wish you every success in
Speaker 2: the world. Do you want to tell me, do you
Speaker 2: want to give you a company a plug? Maybe we
Speaker 2: have some other listeners in Montreal that that will like to,
Speaker 2: you know, purchase your products or do you do you
Speaker 2: want to keep it on the d.
Speaker 6: Lough No, it's it's actually we're in semiconductors and we are. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so we're we're the semiconductory manufacturer and we are. I
Speaker 6: shouldn't they manufacturer? We wrap them so we're a middle
Speaker 6: guy and uh, you know what we it's all about relationships.
Speaker 2: It's all about you've picked the great You've picked a
Speaker 2: great business there, okay, and you're going to be very it.
Speaker 6: Has been well, it's been. It's been. It's been a
Speaker 6: good run, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: The only problem is that you get you get nailed
Speaker 2: with tax is not only revenue Canada, but revenue Quebec.
Speaker 2: And it's it's a very expensive government that you support
Speaker 2: up there.
Speaker 6: Both extremely extremely We.
Speaker 2: Could talk about that. I know, I know quite a
Speaker 2: bit about the tax rates in Quebec and uh and revenue.
Speaker 6: Yeah, every dollar over seventy k you're paying fifty two
Speaker 6: you're you're giving more to the government than you're taking home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a point. There's a point where you're
Speaker 2: paying you keep one the revenue Canada gets one and
Speaker 2: revenue Quebec gets one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you have in this province have to file
Speaker 6: two income tax returns and uh, we're paying over six
Speaker 6: dollars at US gallon fifteen consumption tax. So you buy
Speaker 6: a car fifteen points from there. So this is where I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna I'm gonna let you run because if not lose
Speaker 2: my audience. There.
Speaker 5: Thank a lot.
Speaker 2: Thanks Frank, keep calling the show. It's always great to shings.
Speaker 2: Things as bad as they are in the US, economically,
Speaker 2: they could be worse. We could be socialist country like Tudeau.
Speaker 6: Well that's that's sort of what I sort of argue against.
Speaker 6: But I'd hate to see you guys go that way.
Speaker 2: So I hear you know, as would I. Thanks Freg,
Speaker 2: talk to you soon. We got a couple of lines
Speaker 2: six one seven thirty, six one seven, nine ten thirty.
Speaker 2: The question back on the table is your reaction to
Speaker 2: the decision of the Teamsters Union, a very powerful union,
Speaker 2: perhaps the biggest union in America. The Teamster's Union decision
Speaker 2: not to endorse a presidential candidate. I think it's quite significant.
Speaker 2: Maybe you agree, maybe you disagree. That's what that's what
Speaker 2: we're doing here tonight or nights. Come on right back.
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Speaker 5: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Marie in Boston. Marie, welcome back.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the Teamsters decision today, the leadership of
Speaker 2: the Teamsters to endorse in the presidential election. Are you surprised. Oh,
Speaker 2: Let's put Marie on hold and we'll get back there
Speaker 2: in a second. Let me go to Jim. Jim. You
Speaker 2: were next on Nightsicker right ahead.
Speaker 4: Ben, Yes, sir, Jim, welcome, Hey, thank you. Okay. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm a due paid member and I donated the O'Brien's campaign.
Speaker 4: I voted for O'Brien, and the things that I think
Speaker 4: I want to say, okay, is that I was dismayed
Speaker 4: when Biden ordered the operating train engineers back to work
Speaker 4: with very little compensation whatsoever. And I heard an interview
Speaker 4: with the president of their union and someone called in
Speaker 4: and said they didn't think that was going to hurt him,
Speaker 4: And she said, we'll see whether or not it had
Speaker 4: hurt him when it comes time for him to get
Speaker 4: re elected. And then the other thing is I was,
Speaker 4: I was also dismade when Troudeau ordered the operating engineers
Speaker 4: back to work, and I was. I didn't think about
Speaker 4: it at the time, but I heard O'Brien say at
Speaker 4: the at the Republican Convention, we don't take sides. In essence,
Speaker 4: that's what he said, But it didn't really. It didn't
Speaker 4: occur to me at the time that by saying we
Speaker 4: don't take sides, he wouldn't be able to endorse either candidate.
Speaker 4: But that kind of turns out the way that it is.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't just O'Brien, You're you're a team ster, I.
Speaker 4: Guess right, Yeah, I said, I'm a duce paid member.
Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. I just want to make
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that you could have been
Speaker 2: a duce paying member of my union, which is after
Speaker 2: But no, so you're a team star.
Speaker 4: I don't And I pledge and I said, you know.
Speaker 2: This better than me. Okay, so I'm asking you a question.
Speaker 2: You're going to help me out here. My understanding was
Speaker 2: it was the it wasn't O'Brien's decision. Although he might
Speaker 2: be influential, you have like an executive counsel. I have
Speaker 2: no idea, dear, how many members voted, but apparently there
Speaker 2: was a vote of what they call the executive council,
Speaker 2: and it was it was those individuals who made the decision. Uh,
Speaker 2: not necessarily Sean O'Brien. O'Brien might have been influential, but
Speaker 2: my understanding is that it was a board, an executive council.
Speaker 4: Is that okay, Well that see is very complicated and
Speaker 4: I don't know that part of it. But if you
Speaker 4: say so that you know, I'll go. I don't know
Speaker 4: that part of it.
Speaker 2: I don't think. What all I was trying to say
Speaker 2: is I don't think it was a standalone decision by
Speaker 2: Sean O'Brien the president. That there was more input from
Speaker 2: more people. That's all I'm trying to say.
Speaker 4: I mean, he did say at that Republican convention, in essence,
Speaker 4: we were not I don't we're affiliated. We're not we
Speaker 4: don't take In essence, what he said was we don't
Speaker 4: take sides.
Speaker 2: He was saying that whichever party. Uh. And we played
Speaker 2: a little bit of his sound earlier. He basically said Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: neither major candidate, meaning Trump or Harris, was able to
Speaker 2: make serious commitments to our union to endorse the interest
Speaker 2: of working people are always put before big business. He
Speaker 2: said he saw commitments from both Trump and Harris not
Speaker 2: to interfere in critical union campaigns or court teamster's industries,
Speaker 2: and to honor our members right to strike, but were
Speaker 2: unable to secure those pledges.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I don't know what. I didn't hear that
Speaker 4: at the convention. I heard at the convention in essence,
Speaker 4: we don't we're not taking side. So at the time
Speaker 4: it didn't occur to me. I was surprised, because they do.
Speaker 4: Typical teamsters are very on the Democratic side. But I'd
Speaker 4: spent years and years since I've heard any Democrat say
Speaker 4: anything that was favorable to, in my opinion, significantly favorable
Speaker 4: to labor unions. I mean, the people who do the
Speaker 4: work in this country are severely under compensated. They were
Speaker 4: just falling down on ourselves because we don't have enough
Speaker 4: money to pay our bills, and there's no reason for it.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's this guy, this guy up in the
Speaker 4: Buffalo yesterday get three hundred and sixty million dollars away
Speaker 4: to nonprofits. I said to myself, why don't you give
Speaker 4: that money to people who helped who worked for you
Speaker 4: and helped you earn the money. Give it back to
Speaker 4: the people who de who worked for a living. Why
Speaker 4: are you giving it away to nonprofits?
Speaker 2: Good question, good question. We'll see if people respond to it. Jim,
Speaker 2: thank you very much. I did not realize that you
Speaker 2: were a teamster. And by the way, the majority of
Speaker 2: the teamsters there was a poll and the majority wanted
Speaker 2: to support Donald Trump by almost sixty percent.
Speaker 4: So my uncle tired from it up in Illinois. Here
Speaker 4: it was Martino distributing for years and years. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 2: Thanks you. I appreciate your call. Interesting quick, let me
Speaker 2: let me go, let me get Marie back here. I
Speaker 2: guess Marie was there when you picked up, right Rob. Okay, Marie,
Speaker 2: we missed you before. Go right ahead.
Speaker 10: Yes, TI, thank you for taking my call. It was
Speaker 10: my point is I am not surprised at all. I'm
Speaker 10: actually surprised that he didn't endorse Trump, even though he
Speaker 10: said that he was not taking side. Now he's been speaking,
Speaker 10: he's been speaking from both sides of his mouth. Because
Speaker 10: I was very surprised that he went to the Republican
Speaker 10: convention because Republican surrogains union. If it wasn't for Democrats,
Speaker 10: that wouldn't be any union, and and and and and
Speaker 10: a Republicans not not not well, Republicans will stand take
Speaker 10: it in like like President Bidenville or did or come
Speaker 10: Famala Harris. So to me, the this this seems their union.
Speaker 10: They've ripen from the benefits that the Democrats are fighting
Speaker 10: for them and then they voting for for for Trump.
Speaker 10: What has Trump done for unions? They against union?
Speaker 2: Well, the only thing, the only thing that I would say,
Speaker 2: and again I'm not trying to take sides here, but
Speaker 2: the Republicans invited O'Brien to address their convention, and O'Brien
Speaker 2: took the opportunity on behalf of teams just to speak
Speaker 2: to the Republicans the Democrats. He requested an invitation to
Speaker 2: speak to the Democrats, and the Democrats refused to allow
Speaker 2: him to speak. Didn't give them an invitation to speak.
Speaker 10: I understand that, but because probably because Democrats were so
Speaker 10: they were hurts that he went in spoke, you know,
Speaker 10: to lever talk. Look at when Republicans are against unions,
Speaker 10: it's sort of like senior citizens votings for Republicans when
Speaker 10: they trying to take their solid security. So there are
Speaker 10: a lot of people that work well.
Speaker 2: We're always like, oh the Marie who is trying to
Speaker 2: take that? That's just not true. There's no Republican that
Speaker 2: I know of who wants to take social security away
Speaker 2: from people who have SOBI security. The Republicans are saying,
Speaker 2: I will grant you this, that maybe the retirement age
Speaker 2: should be increased from sixty five to sixty six or
Speaker 2: sixty seven because people are living longer, But that's very
Speaker 2: different from saying we're going to take back SOI security
Speaker 2: benefits that people have earned. Don't mistake that. Don't mistate that.
Speaker 10: Well, it's not mistaken because if they have their chances
Speaker 10: as they speak and say that those are entitlement, they
Speaker 10: didn't want people to get some security.
Speaker 2: An entitlements, right, those are entitlements. They the wealthy.
Speaker 10: Insurance.
Speaker 2: I pay for it, Yes you did, and I did
Speaker 2: as well. And I wouldn't vote for anybody who's gonna
Speaker 2: take my so security away. And and there's no Republican
Speaker 2: that I know of. Maybe there's a couple of Google birds,
Speaker 2: but no one is going to run for public office
Speaker 2: and say, oh yeah, when I get elected, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take people so security away. That's crazy. Hey, Mary, I
Speaker 2: gotta I hate to do this. Yeah, I took you
Speaker 2: back here, but I'm running out of time. I got
Speaker 2: a commercial break and I got to get to a
Speaker 2: couple of other callers. Thanks for calling, Please continue to
Speaker 2: call my program. I enjoyed our conversation.
Speaker 9: All right, bye bye bye.
Speaker 2: Coming back on Nightside right after this break.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling. You're gonna go to Anthony
Speaker 2: in Midford. Did the un next a Nightsider? Right ahead?
Speaker 9: Are you doing, Dan, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: You're surprised by the decision of the team's just not
Speaker 2: to endorse a presidential candidate.
Speaker 9: I'm not surprised. She's gonna tell you why everybody should
Speaker 9: have a union to back them in a work industry,
Speaker 9: and like, look at charn O'Brien. You know the teams
Speaker 9: he's did with the ups the workers are getting abused.
Speaker 9: But going back, I think out loud. I mean, I
Speaker 9: grew up as a Democrat, and uh now I'm just
Speaker 9: still independent because the money that's costing gas, the fuels
Speaker 9: and the groceries. Tamala Harrison is a're gonna fix it,
Speaker 9: and you know, when I get she's doing there for
Speaker 9: three and a half years, I'm pro unions.
Speaker 2: She said she's gonna stop price gauging. I think she
Speaker 2: mat part price gouging.
Speaker 9: Even I'm not a union member, but everybody should have
Speaker 9: a union. There's some companies out there that pay better
Speaker 9: than unions. Fix it one set happening of the of
Speaker 9: the other. But I think it's just, you know, I'm
Speaker 9: glad they did that because you know, the Democrats think
Speaker 9: it get you know, why would you going to want
Speaker 9: to be a union guy making great money and spend
Speaker 9: half your pay on double the groceries, double the gas.
Speaker 9: It's just, you know, I think everybody should look at
Speaker 9: the look around and say, Okay, when Trump was in office,
Speaker 9: everything was down. There's no laws. They weren't shipping money
Speaker 9: to Ukraine. It's just they're taking the union guy's taxes
Speaker 9: and shipped to Ukraine. You know, Trump kept it here.
Speaker 9: I don't know one Republican. I have a lot of
Speaker 9: Republican friends that own big companies. The union they love it, buddy,
Speaker 9: might have all.
Speaker 2: Right, I got you in. I got you in there
Speaker 2: Anthony's strong point of view. Let's see, I got one
Speaker 2: more caller. I got to get the Terry.
Speaker 9: Down in the case and have a great night. You
Speaker 9: have a great shape, great show, buddy.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Anthony, appreciate your call.
Speaker 9: Terry.
Speaker 2: I'll bet you're going to come at me with a
Speaker 2: different point of view. I know you're pretty well, Terry.
Speaker 2: You go right ahead, Jan How are you Dan?
Speaker 11: I am a very proud union nurse. I am under
Speaker 11: the umbrella of the Massachusetts Nurses Association, and I love
Speaker 11: what they do. However, I don't always agree with who
Speaker 11: they endorse all the time. And it is okay that
Speaker 11: the team stirs have made an error in judgment. It
Speaker 11: is okay they're human. But I'll tell you truthfully, I'll
Speaker 11: go with the tailor swift effect. Massive amounts of votal
Speaker 11: registration's happened within twenty four hours after her announcement. That
Speaker 11: speaks volumes to me.
Speaker 2: All Right, well I don't We'll see how you're not
Speaker 2: worried about.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: You're convinced that is going to prevail after all?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I do, but i'd like to say one quick
Speaker 11: thing about.
Speaker 2: Quick they only get to many seconds left, Terry go
Speaker 2: ahead and get seconds.
Speaker 11: So story, and my heart goes out to his family.
Speaker 11: But I call on Governor Sary to use her executive
Speaker 11: powers to call for the immediate suspension. But whoever that
Speaker 11: person was in the ring, whoever made the assignments.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, Terry, flat flat out of time, Terry,
Speaker 2: they're gonna fire me if I don't end the program.
Speaker 2: You have a great night. You n bye bye. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry Rob what you say in my ear? Okay, uh, Terry,
Speaker 2: I we got to wrap the program, so I apologize,
Speaker 2: thank you very much. Okay, we are done for the night.
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