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reading between the lines, going to get into the postgame
commentary from head coach Kevin Young is number seen in
BYU brushed off a slow start in their eighty five
sixty eight win over Delaware tel Or where it was
not a good basketball team owned to heading end and
they had lost to a D two team, and they
had many of their stars, actually many of their their
their best players not even playing in this game.
Speaker 1: But Rob Right, the Robert Right the third.
Speaker 3: Had a fantastic game, especially in the second half, and
it was glorious to see the Cougars roar back to
life at the Marriott Center and get a win. And
I'd say a fairly dominant win of you know, winning
over By, you know, essentially over you know, almost twenty
points here in in a home setting. But we're going
to delve into the sound and find out what happened,
why it happened. From Kevin Young's perspective, Let's start off,
we're gonna play it in its entirety, all right. This
is ky postgame discussing the matchup versus Delaware.
Speaker 4: Slow start for this group in the first half, good
coaching on their part. They had a great game plan.
They slowed the game down, they mucked it up. They
played zone from from the first play on and that
was a that was a well executed game plan. It
kind of put our guys in mud, and I thought
it was good for us to kind of I just
told the guys that every game has a life of
its own, you know, and.
Speaker 5: So you just have to find what buttons to push.
Speaker 4: From a coaching standpoint and from a playing standpoint, our
guys did that.
Speaker 5: So what did you push?
Speaker 4: I thought we just we we did a much better
job outside of that first have many minutes where we
started to play a much faster. I thought we were
kind of just in our heels, you know, allowing them
to dictate the tempo of the game. And it was
clear they were trying to run a shot clock down
to the last little deal. And you know, you got
guys banking in threes from thirty feet like it's hard
to you know, think it takes an emotional toll on
you too. But I thought our guys figured out, you know,
the the recipe was to play fast, get to the paint,
and then get threes.
Speaker 5: I thought we were saddling, you know, for no paint
touch threes early on.
Speaker 3: So they came out and zone mucked it up, forcing
Bau to shoot threes. They on the other end, were
ultimately expending the entire amount of their half court set
trying to find a look that they typically didn't really get,
and they were hugging up contested shots and making them
from the perimeter, step back from thirty fading away.
Speaker 1: Everyone was hitting.
Speaker 3: Guys were coming off the bench, rotational five men were
coming off the bench. You know, that looked like they
had no business playing college basketball. They looked like they
could be offensive tackles and they're hitting.
Speaker 1: That's what happened in this game.
Speaker 3: And you hate to say it, but yeah, there are
some weaknesses on this BAU basketball team, and one of
the weaknesses is spot up three point shooting. Right now,
that's what it looks like. They got into a groove.
They started hitting them to the end of the first
half and into the second half. But that's a bit
of an issue for this BYU Man's basketball team. So
that that's what That's what I saw at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, whenever a team like Delaware starts the
game on the ten our run, I was like, all right,
and then they came out and blitzed him Like I
was sitting there on the media row, and they they
had no fear. They came out in the zone, Bau.
I don't think expected them to play zone like that.
They said, we will not let you have threes, and
they struggled. They were trying to get into the pain
and they didn't. They were more physical and look, at
one point this game was thirteen to four, and I said,
what am I?
Speaker 3: Byu was one to twelve from the three point line
in the first half.
Speaker 2: And the first the only three came from Rob Wright,
just so people know. Yeah, eight zero point three to
three percent.
Speaker 6: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: They turned it around in the second half eleven of
twenty and they ended up twelve of thirty two on
the night, thirty seven percent from the three point line.
But that's why Byu was down so big. We were
settling because taking play zone. And it's not even bad threes.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think they were all bad threes. Like well,
Kevin Yung said that that's why I was reader. Isn't
that but like even then, like like if it's an
uncontested or even a semi contested three, you know, guys
are closing out in space. You rotated the ball to
the open man and he just misses. Yeah, Like, is
that truly about three?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I understand he wants them to play with pace, be
more aggressive. You're bigger, stronger, faster, like you can win
in the pain versus zone with your talent.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You're still gonna draw doubles, You're gonna you're gonna draw defenders.
Speaker 1: And you could get a more open shot.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like these are tremendously horribly like contested
off balance threes, like most of the three point shots
look set, look square, and just we're off the mark,
Like am I wrong in that?
Speaker 6: The twelve?
Speaker 1: Like how many are.
Speaker 6: Out of the twelve?
Speaker 2: I think there were two that Richie took him like
you could have been more set, And I think it's my.
Speaker 1: He's a catching shoot. Catch sho got here?
Speaker 2: And I think what Kevin Young and he'll say later
it was rush threes, That's what it was.
Speaker 6: And I think that's what.
Speaker 3: I would say, like Dawson's like Dawson's pace. I remember
when he shot his like corner three, like he rushed it.
I thought you could tell you rushed it.
Speaker 2: I think that's what Kevin Young is said, by bad
rushing your shot, yeah, because rushing it is not necessarily
bad it's and that's a good look. Just slow down
your your form and the rushing did happen? They they
took about and I can cause I counted as they
took about five or six rush threes that they shouldn't
just playing too much's you know, you get juiced like
how foo's just missus bunnies in the past, Like we'll
slow down, gather yourself. That's what it was. They missed
about five or six of those silver in the first half.
They were nine of eleven from the charity stride.
Speaker 1: Not bad to what have.
Speaker 6: I said multiple times?
Speaker 2: If you want to get to through the tournament, when
you get found, you gotta knock down free shots.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, let's get back to k Y.
Speaker 3: Kevin Young postgame commentary there is he evaluates the eighty
five sixty eight went over Delaware last night.
Speaker 5: He able to look ahead of Yukon and passed.
Speaker 7: Though maybe, Kevin, did you direct Rob right to pretty
much take over that game?
Speaker 3: Or does that just oh short answer, didn't give a
whole lot you were there? What you make of that
legiousy you know't read it between the lines there with Ky?
Speaker 2: Maybe No, I think Kevin Young is a very professional
coach of like, no, we just didn't play the game.
We didn't execute our game plan, and he's not gonna
take anything away from the opponent. I don't think he's
he thinks his squad is looking past anybody. I think
this team is too talented and too mature for that.
I know that we have to ask that question as
to media, but I think Kevin Woks saying like, maybe
being honest, but I don't think he really believed it.
If if we were to catch Kevin Young off record,
this is me speculating, he'd be like, you serious. I
think that's what he would think, because if you lose
this game and then Yukon like, look, trap games in
football are different than basketball.
Speaker 6: But I don't think this team was overlooking.
Speaker 2: I think Delaware just came out and was trying to
punch you ale, you know out then frankly they did.
Speaker 3: Honestly, all right, let's get back to k why as
he responds to the questions from the media.
Speaker 7: Something that came instinctively to him.
Speaker 5: No, it was instinct.
Speaker 4: I mean he's a great player, so like great players,
and it's my belief you got to give him freedom.
Speaker 5: I think that's one of the reasons that.
Speaker 4: Rob came here, to be honest with you, because I
think our spacing allows for freedom.
Speaker 5: I think we allow for creativity.
Speaker 4: And him and I've had a lot of discussions, pretty frank,
to be honest with you about how important his decision
making is, you know, when he gets to the paint,
because he can't get by anybody any night. And so
I thought tonight he was just surgical. Obviously the three
was going down for him. But more I thought was
almost more impressive, was his rim finishing and his nine assists.
I thought he really got Richie going.
Speaker 5: And that's two games in a.
Speaker 4: Row now where it looks like what we all expect
out of Richie. So there was a lot of good
from that standpoint. You talk Saturday about wanting to see
the three start to go in second half of them
more than you expected. I mean, look, games are great
when you make shots, they're bad when you miss.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Like, it's just what it is.
We all know it.
Speaker 4: We've all followed the sport, and so there I don't
I think for me, it's are you taking the right ones?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: So I think to start out, we were zero to
twelve from three. I'd say probably eight of them weren't.
Speaker 5: Great, great shots, and so we talk a lot about.
Speaker 4: Paint to great paint, great shot, and so tonight in
the second half, I thought that was more in play,
and that's how we got more of those threes up
and those go.
Speaker 7: Through three games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so paint are great.
Speaker 3: It just kind of piggybacking off of what you would
alluded to because I hadn't listened to the sound yet.
But this is uh, he could have got We could
have gotten better shots. Eight of those could have been
they were semi contested. Well, guys are closing out, but
they're still makeable shots. He just wants much better shots
than that perfection that one. Well, when you're way better
than a team talent wise, you expect to get wide
open shots.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you expect to get wide open If that's Yukon,
that's a different comment. I feel like, you know, because
the opponent, most of them are gonna be contested. Yeah,
And I'm gonna be honest, Can I say this reading
between the lines, because that's what the segment is. I
think he's tired of us asking about threes falling, So
I'm not going to ask that anymore. I get the
vibe of where he's like, look Ius, like I already
told you last game, it's not gonna be a high
volume three point shooting team with the athleticism and the
skill set.
Speaker 6: I think you just have to go back.
Speaker 2: And especially when he's and this is what I mean
when you're dealing with this type of coach, when he says,
been we all saw Richie finally get back to who
he thought he was, and that's the three point shooting guy,
that's the leader.
Speaker 6: We don't need to ask these anymore.
Speaker 2: Like the next time that question comes up, I don't
know what response he's gonna give, but I'm starting to
get the vibe of stop asking Kevin Young about three
point shooting because he's commented on it enough and that's
he's made his declaration of how he feels about it.
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the sound Kevin Young poach game
discussing the Delaware victory.
Speaker 7: Does anything really surprised you about this group yet? Or
is it pretty much kind of what you thought you
would get.
Speaker 4: I'm still learn in this group, to be honest with you,
still really early in the season, so it's hard to
say I don't I wouldn't say no, I would not
say anything.
Speaker 5: That surprised me. But I also don't feel like I
know this group like the back of my hand.
Speaker 4: I think we're still learning, you know's what's best for
this team on both ends of the floor.
Speaker 6: You ever rebented in twenty four and nine in the
second half?
Speaker 5: Since that a point of emphasis to crush? Yeah, it
was a point of emphasis.
Speaker 4: Probably it was the biggest point of emphasis coming into
the game. I was very disappointed with how we rebounded
the ball to this point outside of the Carolina exhibition game,
and so challenge our guys to oppose our will on
the glass.
Speaker 5: So you know, plus nineteen on the glass.
Speaker 4: I think my analytics guy in there is doing cart
wheels because we got back half of our misses. I
think on the offensive rebounding piece. And here's I'll give
you guys.
Speaker 5: A little little inside nugget.
Speaker 4: So the other day that Probb been all over all
these guys the rebound offensively, and so Rob Wright finally
got his first offensive rebound.
Speaker 5: We shut practice down. We shut practice down, all right.
So he came in the night and got five of him.
Speaker 4: Now he cheated and got a couple at the end
there when it was over.
Speaker 5: But I like where his head's at though.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts.
Speaker 6: I just think that's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: You know about the rob right thinks shut down practice
giving us some insight, and Kevin Hun's starting to open
up more with all of us in the media know
to get serious though. Look, this team has struggle with
grabbing offensive rebounds. Villanova did it to him. I was like,
it's way too many do it at the conference play.
You're getting beat by fifteen in the second half. We've
seen that before and then even the second game, you
know against holy Cross, is like what is going on?
And he was asset so you see he's trying to
emphasize that that they they knocked it down. So they
did get some of them back. They limited the turnovers,
and I think that's the biggest thing because Yukon strength
been I've watched them.
Speaker 6: I've done some evaluation some tape.
Speaker 2: They can offensive rebound in nelhartshe if byu gives Yukon
the offensive rebounds that they did in the first two
games and start the season they're getting beat by fifteen.
I'm telling you, like I see it right now. They're
just too talented. Dan Hurley's a good coach. That program
will run circles around you if you give them second
chance points.
Speaker 3: You want to see this team reach its potential a
little bit sooner than last year's team reached its potilar,
right like, you want to see accelerated progress.
Speaker 1: We can weak out, you know.
Speaker 3: Even if it we had I don't know if you
can say marshall progress throughout last year. They obviously peaked
at the right time, and I believe they'll peak at
the right time. We just wanted a little bit faster
this year. Probably if you're a BYU fan with.
Speaker 2: The talent, I think that's that's a reasonable expectation hundred percent,
especially Richie coming back first fourty eight. The chemistry does,
but shots should fall and they should be able to
put the ball in the basket. And look for the
most part, with the scoring of how Aj, RICHI and
Rob are all putting it together. I mean, looks anytime
you get seventy out of eighty five points from your
big three, you can't argue that you do got to
worry about the bench scoring conversation for the day obviously,
but I think right now would see how they're able
to get to the basket. I think Kugar Nation is
going to be very impressed when they finally hit the clicking.
But you're right, they need to be if they went
on Saturday. That's exactly what you're looking forward to in
the non conferences them doing exactly those type of things,
because that's going to give you the evaluation bend for
games when you get to the NCAA tournament. Same thing
for Clemson when you play these teams, when you play
the Miami and the Terry Chocolate Invitational a couple of weeks,
that's what you want to see.
Speaker 3: I agree Ky postgame commentary evaluating the Delaware win.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to it.
Speaker 5: Did you even into your bet triples? Little? I have clues.
I have no idea what the stats are during the
game in terms of that. So did he get one?
He was close? Yeah? Oh he was close.
Speaker 4: That okay, that's probably why he was going so hard.
I'll have to tease him every game and say, you.
Speaker 5: Almost have a triple double, go rebound.
Speaker 7: I have learned your three games and and basically a
weekend to him, what have you learned about your team?
Speaker 5: We have some really good players, honestly, and so.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know what what can we do to continue
to get these guys to play, play with each other
and make each other better.
Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest challenge.
Speaker 4: I've been on a lot of teams that have have
have had high end talent, and sometimes it goes great
and sometimes it doesn't. And I think the ones where
it goes great is when they all play for each
other and so it's bigger our team. For me, it's
like bigger than the scheme. It's bigger than the x's
and o's. Like if these guys play for the guy
next to 'em, we're gonna be really good because we
have good talent.
Speaker 5: And you know, to uh your point about the shooting.
If if we can do all.
Speaker 4: That and then and our three star going in like
we know that they they can, then then that's obviously
where we're gonna be the most dangerous.
Speaker 5: Team to the face. Yeah, uh good.
Speaker 4: I mean he's he's so grounded and nothing phases him, honestly,
Like I love that about him for a eighteen year
old kid.
Speaker 5: I mean, he you know, I just love his approach.
He's super mature.
Speaker 4: And I thought he came in I don't know if
it was before after there was sometime during that that
that that moment, you know he really got downhill. Obviously
he's such a load getting downhill. I think all of
our guys. I'm proud of all the guys cause we.
Speaker 5: Talked a ton about like our rim finishing.
Speaker 4: So now you're seeing a little bit more variety with
our moves in the interior.
Speaker 5: You know, in that Villanova game, he was trying to
jump over the whole world and they would be in
vertical at the rim.
Speaker 4: So that's the one thing I really love about AJ
in particular is that you can tell him something and
he is really smart in terms of Okay, i'm'a I
see that, and.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go do it. You know, some guys you
gotta tell him fifty times and they still don't get it.
He he's able to process things and warp speed could not.
Speaker 3: One thing I love about AJ. He has every reason
not to put forth one effort on the offensive end
defensive end, and I rarely ever see him not give
a hundred.
Speaker 6: He's given like one hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 3: Like he's he's getting in passing lanes, he's he's closing
out on shooters. He's very good with his denial defense right,
like he's doesn't allow you know what I mean, He's
just he's shuffling, he's engaging, he's he's always full tell
and so I love that about him, and then very
engaged when either he or his teammates win a possession, right,
get a stop and or get a bucket. Very much
engaged and communicative. I love that about aj. I just
I just want to say that. I just I love
that about Aga because he's got every reason not to
be consistently that way. It's one thing to like, you know,
especially versus Delaware, you could say, like you don't you
don't need to put forth that type of effort in
order to beat Delaware, and you shouldn't have to put
forth that effort in order to beat Delaware.
Speaker 1: He was putting forth a great effort.
Speaker 6: He he doesn't take any playoff, Ben.
Speaker 2: It's a guy that's given one hundred and twenty five
percent every single play, whether it's getting in passing LANs
like you mentioned, uh, deflecting passes, playing defense, grabbing rebounds
like he's trying to keeps crashing the boards every single time.
Then he's trying to grab every single rebound. If you
go look at last night's game. You'll see number three
in every single in mixed trying to grab boards and
not just that. When he goes to the bench, he's
engaged on the bench like he's standing up celebrating, doing
stuff like that. When he's not in court, someone gets
a block, like he's flexing at his teammates like he's
he's a great teammate, Like you, what do we always say?
No entitlement, there's no entitlement. AJ debonsa. Kevin Young has
mentioned it. He's extremely what coachable, that's the biggest thing.
I go back to the Villanova game. Ag it takes
a bad Mitch rain shot, Kevin Young stops going time.
I goes right up to him, taps him on the
chest with the paper. Hey don't do that, Ah says yes,
next play, doesn't do it, gets downhill to the basket
like that's coaching, that is. And he just made the comment.
You don't have to tell him multiple times. You tell
him when he processes it, and he does it. Like look, Ben,
he dunks the ball against Delaware in a non conference game,
gets hyped and it's like mean mugging the dude and
he's picking him up ninety like ninety four feet back
down to court, Like that's that's why he's gonna be
the number one pick, you know, in the twenty twenty
six NBA draft. Like that effort right there, Like he
doesn't take a playoff, And you have to love that
about the kid.
Speaker 6: Boa He's gotta go win an aj again, Kugarnation.
Speaker 2: Enjoy it while it lasts, because that type of player,
that type of mindset doesn't always come around.
Speaker 1: All Right.
Speaker 3: Back to Ky post game last night after the Delaware win.
Speaker 7: Davis had played if he really needed him today and
is that something to be concerned about going into Savage.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm concerned when all of our guys have
any kind of injuries just because you know, you want
a full clean bill of health.
Speaker 5: I do think he could have played.
Speaker 4: I was telling, uh the coaches afterwards. I mean, it's
amazing when you take you know, one guy out, what
it does, what it just what it does to the team.
You know, he's such a a huge part because of
his toughness, his size, his defensive versatility. So I think
for me, you know it it made us all probably
appreciate him even more.
Speaker 5: But but but but to answer your specific question. I
think he's fine moving forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your uh initial thoughts on Saturday against
you come to watch last night?
Speaker 4: Just your thoughts on them. I'm still getting caught up.
I've watched several several of their games. It's obviously a
good team, really good coach.
Speaker 5: I mean he's uh, you know, he's.
Speaker 4: A really creative offensive coach. They've run really good stuff.
Obviously he's had a ton of success, so a great
respect for that for him in particular in their program.
Speaker 5: So it'll be a good challenge, you know.
Speaker 4: And I think some of the some of the games
we've played earlier is have have been uh, you know.
Speaker 5: Helped us probably get ready for it.
Speaker 4: But uh, looking forward to going out on a road
on a on a kind of a longer trip with
our guys that think that's good team bonding and so forth.
Cool to have aj back in his Hometown'd be cool
to see how many BYU fans to show out at
TD gardens.
Speaker 5: So we're looking forward to it. Two more questions, Are
you gonna be leaving Thursday? Look at what's the timeline
when you guys are getting out there? Yeah, we're leaving.
We're living on Thursday.
Speaker 8: Yup, Kevin Gi you're big three guys.
Speaker 5: Uh, I think sc I don't know what percent of.
Speaker 7: Yarvard they score for both of your points. Is that
kind of I don't know, sustainable.
Speaker 8: Is that kind of how you want it?
Speaker 7: Or do you think maybe that was cause Canard wasn't
in the line out.
Speaker 5: Or or no.
Speaker 4: I think those guys are gonna score a lot of
points every night. To be honest with you, I mean,
I think we're we're searching. I would say for somebody,
you know, off the bench to come in and uh,
you know, make shots. You know, I think Dawson will
be that guy when when we're fully healthy. Uh you know,
we're giving a lot of opportunity to Tyler. You know,
he has yet to to have a game that uh
uh you know he wants it, but I think it's
common cause he's he's a winning player, Like he makes
winning players out there. I think I think Dom is
shown flashes in the last two games that have been impressive,
and we all think every shot Alex coach It shoots
is going in. So his time's coming just because we're
gonna we need shooting, and so somebody's gonna answer the call, so.
Speaker 5: We'll see.
Speaker 4: But but again, I mean, our team has kind of
built around those those three guys, and uh, you know,
I feel great.
Speaker 5: When I wake up in the morning. Now I'm going
to battle with those three guys.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: That's uh the postgame commentary from k Y and Uh, look,
I'm just glad.
Speaker 1: The second half was much, much, much, much better than
the first half.
Speaker 3: They did close it out the first half with a
little bit more vigor in them.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It was a three point game at half, and then
they took the top off and and and finally started
executing their game plan with efficiency, scoring fifty one points
in the second half. The final score eighty five sixty eight,
and BYU ended up shooting forty five percent from the field,
thirty seven point five percent from the three point line,
and eighty six percent from the charity stripe. They completely
dominated the rebounding game, especially in the second half forty
six to twenty five. They did have seven turnovers, and
they were able to tally for steels. I would have
liked to see more steals, right like I would like
to see a few more steals.
Speaker 1: But overall a decent performance.
Speaker 3: Uh, they I would say the one criticism I have
right now is that you know, we don't have very
many corporate sponsors showing up in the Lower Bawl.
Speaker 2: Yes, someone posted on a X I saw that maybe
that's the issue. Are we doing our partners need to
give their tickets to someone.
Speaker 6: I said, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: Man, oh boy, that you guys need to all the
corporate sponsors. You guys got assistance, they should be finding.
Speaker 6: True fire open. I was like, come on, now, in.
Speaker 3: Your businesses, you can trickle those down to uh friends, family.
Speaker 6: Member, families. There are people you can give those tickets away.
Speaker 1: Come on, give those tickets away.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and minister some of you, come on, do
you yeah your war do your one eleventh. As Klanie says,
go ahead and do that. I agree, how much you ben,
I'm much. That's the only criticism.
Speaker 3: Come on, I have no I'll put criticism on this
on this team, on the staff. I also do the
fan base and the donors and the corporate sponsors. Hey
get and the people's been there. No pet band issues
like last year. They're there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no controversy around found the pet band.
Speaker 2: I know people might not like they're showing up, but
they're showing up showing out, So you got to show
up and show out.
Speaker 6: That's how it is.
Speaker 2: Look, anybody who can, by the way, check this out.
This is crazy. And I forgot to mention this, and
I should have got the exact number. Might have to
go look at the press release or the stat sheet.
I know I have it here somewhere in our band
Will studios. But Ben, it was a sellout yesterday too,
so it was a sellout. So for the fact that
you had that got the attendance. Here's the attendants eighteen
two hundred ninety nine, so almost eighteen thousand, three hundred
people were well seat So seats sold right, but not
people in it. Tennants, but like they're gonna clear whereas
you And that goes back to the point of what
someone says, how do you have it? Sould, But you don't.
You gotta have those people show up? And and here
I'm I know we're going on a tangent about the donors.
Speaker 1: The rock.
Speaker 2: The Rock's been there, Ben for Holy Cross. Everybody wants
to see aj You gotta SEEJA. You can't watch it
on television. Look, I have put the tweet out and
I'm gonna go to my page right now, Ben, I
know I was being funny, but I'm serious. Uh, Tyler
Moruss takes a three Ben and then aj runs to
the rim and puts a put back dunk like Donovan
Mitchell like us. And I'm serious, and I said this
that I invite every parent, grandparent, great grandparent, man, woman, child, baby, dog, cat,
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Like that, He's he's unreal, like to watch that put
back dunk. And I'm just like, man, you're gonna be
in for a treat the entire season watching a kid
like this. Ann Robert right, Like Ben, you've been waiting
on a point guard like that, Like that's the point
guard or guard level play you've been waiting to get
you back into the game. Those games can change the
momentum in NCAA tournament games of how he just takes
over a ballgame like he almost got close to the
triple double. I think Dominique Diamonde still is a Myce
scream for missing at dunk, but that's nor here nor there.
But at the end of the day, look, I think
the bench is a problem. Dawson has just gotten back
into practicing fully with the team, so it's gonna take
him a little bit of time. But Nate Pickens is
a big loss, so you need Dawson to continue to
step up. But Kevion gave you the names ben So
Nate Pickens out he was gonna be the guy. Dawson
Baker is gonna be the next guy, he said, Alexi
koskinch Tyler Moruss and then Dominiue DIAMONDI. He just gave
you the guys of who could be in that rotation.
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high high of a level, you gotta take it and
read between the lines. So those are the four guys
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Speaker 3: We got Jay Drew Couger, sports insider representing the Dead
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Speaker 1: No doubt about it.
Speaker 3: Uh, Jay, let's start off with b y U basketball
got a little bit Uh, Cougarnation got a little bit
of answer. You got a little bit scared Delaware oh
and two coming in and UH had a nice healthy
lead in the first half. Cougarnation was kind of on
their heels, appalled at b yu's first half.
Speaker 1: What happened in this game in the first.
Speaker 9: Half, Yeah, that was that was rather shocking. This is
a team that on Friday lost to a Division two team,
Wilmington University.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it was. It was a shocker.
Speaker 9: It was a combination of a lot of things. They first,
they made some unbelievable shots. It banked into three pointers
from the top of the key. They were but you know,
give them credit. They came to play, and they were
not intimidated, and and and they looked good.
Speaker 8: Kevin Young in the post game said that credited them.
He said they had a good game plan.
Speaker 9: He said they basically slowed it down and kind of
played like Air Force used to do back in the
day and then just took a three pointer kind of
at the end of the shot clock.
Speaker 8: And then they played zone.
Speaker 9: The zone that kind of befuddled biu's offense for quite
some time. So combination of those two things, you know,
I think I think it was Raley that asked Kevin
Young in the post game maybe someone else if they
were looking past Delaware or two towards Yukon on Saturday.
Speaker 8: And Kevin Young gave a one word answer and it
was maybe.
Speaker 9: So I thought that was pretty honest of him, because
a lot of coaches will never admit that in a
million years, But you know, maybe there's some truth to that,
that that they were caught looking ahead a little bit
and and didn't really take Delaware too seriously. And and
for you know, thirty minutes of the game, it was
a it was a ballgame. It was it was a
close game, and and then by you pulled away at
the end.
Speaker 3: Any concerns about this BAU basketball team, it's very early, right,
this is a talented team and it's.
Speaker 1: A well coached, well resourced team.
Speaker 3: Is there really any concerns about this BAU basketball team
so early in the season, You know, I.
Speaker 9: There are a few. I you know, it's going to
be a good team. It's gonna be a great team.
It's going to be probably a top four in the
Big twelve team.
Speaker 8: Maybe some concerns. Can they can they? You know I've written.
Speaker 9: Before this is Final four or bust with the amount
of talent they have on this team. So right now,
is it looking like a Final four team? I would
probably say no, not yet, but I I think it
can be.
Speaker 8: The talent is certainly there.
Speaker 9: I think the loss of Nate Pickens, who's they announced
last week is going.
Speaker 8: Has already had surgery and we'll be out for the year.
Speaker 9: That's a little bit troubling because Rob Wright played thirty
seven minutes last night at point guard, and beyond him,
they don't really have another true point guard on the roster.
Dawson Baker can play it a little bit, obviously, AJ
and Richie can play.
Speaker 8: Some it can handle the ball, but that could be
troubling down the road.
Speaker 9: And then another big thing is the three point shooting
has not been great.
Speaker 8: Richie picked it up in the second half last night
and was phenomenal. I think it was six of eight
from three. But they've got to.
Speaker 9: Be able to hit three pointers. That's the way college
basketball is going right now. And aj and Rob Wright
and Dawson and some of these other guys, everybody not
named Keva Kata probably needs to be able to hit
three pointers through you know, through three games. Tyler Morass,
the guy they brought in from Idaho to hit threes,
has not really done done so so Kevin Young said
last night that they're still waiting. They're giving him plenty
of chances, and they're kind of still waiting for him
to show what he can do.
Speaker 8: So, yeah, there are some concerns.
Speaker 9: The perimeter defense was a little suspect last night, as
you know, as Delaware was casting off and making a
lot of three pointers on him. So, but I'm not
overly concerned. I think, you know, you just look at
this roster and this talent, and you know, right now,
they look like they have as much talent as anybody
in the country. So I think better days there are ahead.
And I think Kevin Young and his staff will get
it together and they'll and they'll.
Speaker 8: Uh, they'll be peaking at the right time, let's put
it that way.
Speaker 3: A controversial thing happened recently for some b Why you
and some just college basketball fans. G League players are
getting signed BYU. Just got a commitment from Abdullah Ahmed
out of the Knicks organization in the G League. Former
G League center Abdullah Ahmed committee to BYU yesterday.
Speaker 1: Twenty two year old.
Speaker 3: He has been cleared to play by the NCAA, though
his official eligibility clock is still being finalized. He's expected
to have at least two seasons of eligibility, with a
chance at a third. Akhmed is expected role at BA
for the second semester and set out the remainder of
the season. He will officially shoot up for the Cougars
the start of the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season.
Six foot ten big man from Egypt. He's also played
the last two seasons with the Westchester Knicks, the G
League affiliate of the New York Yet New York Knicks,
the same G League affiliate that Jimmer Fernet I think
averaged twenty one point one points for when he was
the G League. But give me your reaction to this news. Obviously,
Aucument's a good player, uh. He went straight from high
school into the G League. Four points, five point five
rebounds and eight point eighteen point three minutes per contest
is what he averaged. I believe this last season. What's
your reaction to this news. Do you like it? Do
you love it? Do you hate it? Do you want
to see maybe some sort of you know, by law
passed limiting overseas professional players and G League players from
playing college basketball.
Speaker 1: What do you got for me? Jay?
Speaker 9: You know when I first heard that this could happen,
I guess it was in October and BYU was one
of the finalists, and it was a It was a
topic of conversation at the Big twelve basketball meetings and
a lot of coaches were.
Speaker 8: Kind of saying, ah, this is crazy the Saint right.
Speaker 9: Including Calvin Sampson, who unbeknownst to him at the time,
was actually in the top four for this for this
guy's services, and here he was. Kevin Sampson was kind
of mildly criticizing the fact that this could happen. So
there's a disconnect there somewhere. But I was probably against it.
I thought that's not a very good idea until I
heard Kevin Young at that most same meetings.
Speaker 8: Basically say that, hey, this has been going on in
European League basketball for a long time. These guys are
being paid over there.
Speaker 9: They're considered pros, including Yegor Demon and many many others.
The kid that started for Illinois last year, I think
it was, and so, you know, hey, it's the same
Kevin was saying, it's the same thing as long as
they're not on a two way NBA contractor as long
as they haven't played in the NBA yet. The g
League is pretty much equivalent to European the European pro leagues.
So when I heard that explanation, I guess I was, Okay, Yeah,
you know, what's good for the Goose is good for
the Gander, and you know, if that's an equivalency kind
of thing, then yeah, I'm all for it. I think
there's been some blowback in the last yesterday and today
because it's b YU, because they're kind of the newcomer
to this whole spending spree that's going on in all
college sports, but specifically football and basketball. I think of
a blue blood like Duke or North Carolina had done it,
I don't think there would have been that much of
a national outcry or anything. I would, you know, I
think people just say, yeah, the rich get richer.
Speaker 8: But I think because.
Speaker 9: It's b YU, I think it's raised some eyebrows, especially
on the hills of the AJ debonsa you know signing
and what BYU d I u's collectives basically paid to
get AJ to provo. So yeah, I add that all
up and I'm not against it, but I can see
where it is causing some consternation out there among a
lot of people.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I think there's there's lenty that don't like
either the LDS Church or BYU for that matter, as
an extension of it, that are going to say, hey,
wait a second, this is becoming a professional endeavor, you know,
pay for play. I mean, we've been hearing this now
for a long time since the Nile era, and I've
found it interesting. I don't know if you saw the
podcast with President and Profit of the Church of Jesus
Christ the Letters, It's down A. Jokes and Elder Holland,
two former BYU presidents discussing BYU's mission, it's impact and
even getting into athletics and commenting on athletics.
Speaker 1: I think down H. Jokes called it the Lord's University.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of Utah fans punching air you know,
at that point, they were not happy, Like, wait a second,
he's calling it the Lord's University.
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 3: And he's talking athletics and how it's making a positive impact.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't like kid UH and I
find it interesting that the board of trustees may be
may be really backing this with the intent of making
a positive impact in the communities that the athletic Department
is competing in right wherever they go. Humanitarian efforts, service
projects are associated with it, highlighting and promoting the the
the athletes of that institution, their stories via by U TV.
Except like, all of these things are making a positive impact,
and I.
Speaker 1: Think it's all kind of collected into this, you know,
into this.
Speaker 3: Controversial topic for many people that don't like BYU or
don't like the LBS church and they they don't like it.
Speaker 1: They just don't like it one bit.
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, b YU and THEYU athletics has always been
a lightning lot of sorts. It's you know, you don't
find a lot of people that are ambivalent towards b
YU either you know, in Utah or pretty much among.
Speaker 8: Any of the schools that compete against b YU.
Speaker 9: People either love them or they hate them, and it's
just it's a polarizing place.
Speaker 8: For whatever reason. And like many of those that you
just outlined bed.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I just, uh, you know, you're just gonna
I think, like this uh signing of a G League player,
it's it's just.
Speaker 8: Gonna further kind of put you know, put more into
that divide, as it were.
Speaker 9: And I just think, you know, people are going to
continue to choose sides. And and you know, credit BYU for,
like you said, having all these outreach programs that are
that are trying to go out into communities and trying
to say that hey, it's not all about athletics, it's
not all about you know, trying to dominate on the
courts and fields of play.
Speaker 8: That it's like this deal that.
Speaker 9: They did at Iowa State with the rate or collecting
shoes for children. It's sort of a payback for two
hundred years ago, how what it was when when a
kind isle and donated shoes to the handcart companies that
were you know, crossing the planes. So uh yeah, it's uh,
it's a very interesting topic and I don't.
Speaker 8: Think it's gonna change anytime soon.
Speaker 9: BYU is just a polarizing place and and it always
has been, and I think it always will continue to.
Speaker 1: Be, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: Jay, let's pivot over to football for a moment.
Speaker 3: The College Football Playoff Committee dubbed BYU the twelfth best team.
They were sitting pretty in their prior slot. They drop
essentially six spots after losing to arguably a top five
team on the road. Was that deserving? You know, why
is it that b where you dropped so far? And
wanted to get your reaction to it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a very good question, Ben. I I thought.
Speaker 9: What would fair in my head as I was, you know,
leaving the game and also over the weekend, was that
they should drop to maybe ten, nine or ten. So
twelve was mildly surprising to me.
Speaker 8: I think the UH.
Speaker 9: I think part of it is how they lost Texas Tech.
Speaker 8: You know, did kick five field goals.
Speaker 9: You know, they turned three of those field goals into touchdowns.
Speaker 8: And you know, it's an even bigger margin of defeat for.
Speaker 9: BYU and and by you just struggled, and there's a
lot of byballs are on that game. Obviously, I haven't
seen the ratings come out yet, but there were you know,
it was the game of the week pretty.
Speaker 8: Much, and the Cougars, you know, I don't want to
be too rough on him, they laid an egg they.
Speaker 9: I mean, I know, Texas Tech is a great defense,
probably the best college defense that I've seen in my
you know, eighteen years of covering covering college football at
least as one of the you know, BYU or Utah
playing against that defense.
Speaker 8: Live, watching it live.
Speaker 9: So you know, I just think all that kind of
coupled with the fact that the Big twelve doesn't quite
get the respect that a lot of the other the
well that the SEC and Big ten gets. So yeah,
add all that up, and I think that's why they
probably tumbled to twelve.
Speaker 8: And I think there was a little bit of I
don't know if you want.
Speaker 9: To call it predictive that the committee says they don't
kind of base anything on like predictives or whatever, but you.
Speaker 8: Know, I think human nature, they.
Speaker 9: Probably looked ahead and they probably said, you know, BYUS
might not you know, beat has to play at Cincinnati
and that could you know, that loss could make him
even drop even further.
Speaker 8: So you know that's another factor that might have played
into it. But to answer your question, Ben, yes, I was.
Speaker 9: I was surprised that they dropped as far as they
did from I think it was from seven to twelve.
Speaker 8: So yeah, that was that was mildly unfair.
Speaker 9: But I can kind of see why the committee did it,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: They didn't They didn't showcase well offensively, and everybody was
watching right, so from a public relations standpoint, wasn't good
for BYU because they really didn't show any sort of
offensive firepower. They didn't score till late in the fourth quarter,
and so not not a good deal. The only way
they can maybe right the ship is get on a
neutral field and maybe beat up on a or rather
get on a neutral field and compete better or or
or at least you know, just keep it close versus
Texas Tech and the Big twelve championship game. If they
are a two loss team, say they do let's say
ideally they get to the Big Twelve Championship Game and
they lose a second time to Texas Tech, but it's closer.
Do you think they get into the playoff?
Speaker 8: Boy, that's a tough question to answer.
Speaker 9: I think it depends on some of the other how
some of the other teams, probably Texas and Oklahoma, some
of the other se team see teams do and if
they have three losses.
Speaker 8: But I'm gonna I'm gonna maybe it's Pollyanna Pollyanna.
Speaker 9: Ish of me, but I'm gonna say, yeah, I think
I think if YU only has two losses and both
are the Texas Tech and they get to the Big
twelve champions.
Speaker 8: Game, yeah, I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say I think they I think the committee
finds a way to get BYU into the playoff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna take eye test into it in
the in the second go round. If it's not a
competitive game, if it doesn't look better than what was
what we all witnessed in Lubbock, if it's same similar
three score margin, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four points,
twenty point victory, I think they may I test BYU
out right. Well, they're not gonna they can't make a run.
They're gonna eye test them out even though yeah, they've
only lost attack. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel.
Look at where where Notre Dame's at right now. They're
eye testing Notre Dame into and in front of BYU,
despite strength of records, strength of schedule, you know, less
less losses into to a top five team, and so
they're already eye testing Notre Dame into the college football playoff.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, that's a good point.
Speaker 9: And I should have probably put that cavey out when
I said, yes, I think they're gonna two losses, you know,
backing up, I should have said yes, if they are competitive,
if they are if it's like say a one score game,
or if they you know, penetrate that Texas Tech defense
and show that you know, they they indeed can move
the ball and that they can make it to the
you know, close going into the fourth quarter sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Jare Mesterer to know, Like even if they, let's say
that Texas Tech wins the game like thirty one to fourteen,
I'm looking at the teams in front, like Alabama's gonna
play you know, Oklahoma, Georgia's gonna play Texas. If they
lose in BAU beats TCU, you know they're gonna move
up obviously to ten. I just don't think the team's
behind you can jump them above. But even if they
were lose by two scores, but they made it decently competitive,
do you still believe that they would have a team
like Miami who might not meet the title game, or
Georgia Tech or USC jump BYU that late, because like
they said, they don't punish you for losing the conference championship.
But I just don't see how these two or maybe
even three lost teams for the SEC ACC or Big
ten can jump BYU that late.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's also a good point, Ronnie. I think, uh,
you know, we'd have to go back to last year.
Speaker 9: Didn't that happen last year where SMU wasn't punished for
losing a conference championship?
Speaker 6: No they weren't. They lost the Clemson they still made
it to twelve, the last.
Speaker 9: Team in Yeah, So so the president is there for that?
So uh yeah, it's that age old question is how
much do they take into you know, consideration the conference
championship games or is that just is that another data
point or is that a you know, tripled kind of
data point uh when they're when they're going over these resumes.
So yeah, it's really fascinating and interesting to see how
it all plays out. But yeah, you know, I think
BYU fans would really have a good a good.
Speaker 8: Beef with the.
Speaker 9: Committee if if, like you said, they were leap frogged,
even though they didn't lose until the championship game.
Speaker 3: Jay, You're right for the days er I is, what
have you been writing about? What are you going to
be dropping on your timeline this week?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just I did a kind of a lengthy
thing after the basketball game last night about just kind
of what we've learned about the BAU basketball team through
two exhibitions and three non conference games kind of leading
up to the Yukon game. So that's online now, and
then I'm working on something on how bad Doc Meyer
will respond. He probably people probably saw me ask those
questions in the Colonial press conference Monday and then again yesterday, So.
Speaker 8: That's what I'm working on today. And then I'm going
to try.
Speaker 9: To do a little bit of history of TCU b
y U, specifically t to use old visits to Provo
in the Mountain West days and how heated those games
were and kind of look kind of a look back
at those leading up to the game on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Love that breakdown, Jay, Any other concerns, anything that stood
out to you from earlier this week, media availability or
the coordinator's corner from the b WAYU football side of things.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it'll be interesting. I just think by you,
you know, they gotta get Moa back.
Speaker 9: I don't know, I've read some places where he probably
won't be back, but they've just got to find another
weapon out of the backfield.
Speaker 8: I guess that would be the big thing that only
Moa injury is the number one injury really.
Speaker 9: That has should be concerning I guess for BYU fans
for this whole season. I know Jojo Phillips was out
and vater Dominus out over a little bit, but this,
this Moa injury is his absence is really well, it
was really felled against Texas Tech, and I think moving
forward it's going to be failed even more. I just
you know, you'd like to see Joe Vesa the Mooney,
or Enichnawahini or Preston Rex just one of those guys
just step up, because I just don't think they can
run there as much as they are and run LJ
as much as they are with him being a little
bit dinged up, so that would be kind of be
my maybe concern over this BYU football team moving forward.
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