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gonna break down the Byuiwy State game from his vantaged points,

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talk some Big twelve football as well, and maybe get

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Speaker 3: We got Shehan jah Rajah on the Live Shehan, how

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are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great? Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Hey, appreciate you joining us and talking some college football.

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Let's take let's take a gander at Big twelve football

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here for a moment, something that no one expected happened.

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Last week Texas Tech lost to ASU. I don't know

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if anyone was predicting that, especially after ASU got pummeled

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by the Utes. B YU also continues to shock people

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each and every week, shocking Vegas, shocking college football pundits

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and analysts around the country as they continue to win

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these close, hard fought battles on the gridiron. But let's

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talk a little bit about let's level set. Who is

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the Big twelve? What are we seeing from the Big

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twelve right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, I think it's in a very competitive year,

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just like it was last year. But I think that's

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top group is kind of starting to separate itself. Even

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though they lost, I still think that Texas Tech belongs

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at the top of that list. I think that BYU,

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with their undefeated star, is in tremendous shape. I think

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Arizona States, you know, even though they've got two losses,

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only one is in Big Twelve play and that was

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about their starting quarterback Sam Levitt, So I think they're

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all in great shape. Houston, of course, still undefeated in

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conference place, Cincinnati still undefeated. So a lot of teams

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that I think have the ability to get into the

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mix if they can get maybe one or two breaks.

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But to me, I think that that top three at

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the top right now, that's the class of the conference.

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Texas Tech, BYU, Arizona States.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are there any dark horses right now? We've been

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discussing this a little bit on our show, Like the

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Kansas surge last year, right Kansas was losing one score

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games time and time again, and then all of a

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sudden they rattle off like three ranked wins on the

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back end and disrupted many teams quest to get to Arlington.

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Who's Kansas of twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 4: Do you think It's an interesting question? And you know,

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I think that there's kind of two different ways to

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approach this. One is you know, you have a team

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like Cincinnati who obviously has been able to take care

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of business to the first half of their schedule. They

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win a close game against Kansas they win a close

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game also against Iowa State. They beat up two of

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the lesser teams in the conference, and now they're kind

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of facing the gauntlet Baylor at Utah, Arizona BYU, TCU

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all losable games, frankly, but also all winnable games if

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some things go right for them, especially with that BYU

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game being at home. So I think that that's a

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team that can elevate itself from being just contender to

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maybe being legitimate sort of top of the pile if

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they're able to have some things go correctly. Another team, too,

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that I think has a lot more upside than they've

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played with the past couple of weeks is TCU. I mean,

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they kind of got shell shocked on the road against

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Kansas State, and they lost a really type game against

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Arizona State, but a pretty manageable slate for them as well.

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really tough game. They play Cincinnati, they play Iowa States,

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but those two games are at home, so I wouldn't

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be shocked if they're able to really rebound Because we've

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seen the upside of this team for stretches in the

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beginning of the year. I think that maybe at the

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end we start to see the top of it. And

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actually one more that probably is a little bit closer

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to the Kansas comparison of last year is Kansas State.

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I mean since that UCF game, they have been playing

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at a different level. They lose a one point game

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to Baylor, they crushed TCU. They're playing at Kansas this week,

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have text Tech at Oklahoma State, which would be a win.

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something like three and two or four and one in

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the second half of the year.

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Speaker 2: Is BYU football too legit, too legit to quit? As

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mc hammer once told us, is I can't remember what

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your preseason prognostication was with Bear Bachmeyer at the Helm,

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but I want to say that you were probably more

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positive and favorable in your prediction than some of the

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other national analyst and pundits.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they are I think, really really good

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right now. I might big question you know, I remember

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saying this I believe on DYUTV before the season that

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when they decided to go with bear Bachmeyer over the

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two other guys who were competing for that job, it

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gave me more optimism that this team had the upside

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to compete for the Big twelve, because when I looked

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at this DYU oftense specifically, my question was always where

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does the explosion come from. I know that LJ. Martin's

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going to give me five yards per carry. I know

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they've got some receivers that can make some plays if

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they get the ball in good spots, but it really

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was that straw that stirred the drink, and I was

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curious if if the quarterback that they played this year

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would be able to do it well. I think bear

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proven that he's ready for this moment. So I'm not

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surprised with how good they've been defensively. I'm not surprised

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with how good LJ. Martin's been. I'm not surprised how

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good this receiver room has been. But I think that

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the way that They've brought bear Bachmeier along through the

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first seven games of the year, really not asking very

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much of them through the first five and easing things

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up when they go down against Arizona and easing things

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up even more when they played that Utah game. I

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think it's been absolutely perfect. I give Klonie Sataki and

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Aaron Roderick a whole lot of credit because this is

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again a player who has never played college football before

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and wasn't even here in the spring. The fact that

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he's been able to step up the way that he has,

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the Big Twelve at a lot of tough games left,

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but a very legitimate contender for the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Let's break down the BYU Ioway State game BAU seven

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and zero four to H and twelve and Big Twelve play.

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They're the number eleven team in the in the in

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the country, Iowa State five and two, two close losses,

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two back to back losses, one score games versus midible.

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Speaker 3: Foes in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: It's a one thirty pm kickoff on Fox and right now,

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Ioway State is the slight favorite at home, two and

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a half point favorite.

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Speaker 3: Over unders at forty nine and a.

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Speaker 2: Half BYU gets the NOD slightly in the ESPN Analytics

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fifty four point two percent per ESPN FBI Analytics. How

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do you see this game play out? Where do you lean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean it's been a game that I think

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a lot of people have been on Iowa States, and

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think that Iowa State is better than how they've played

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the past two weeks. They had a really impressive start

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to the season. They've got an exciting young quarterback in

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Rocobec who's done some great stuff this year. But you know,

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when I look at this matchup, I think that people

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don't understand the level switch bhy you's been able to

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control games. You know. One of the things that is

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a blessing and curse about the way that they play

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is that they don't necessarily put their throat on people, right,

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impressive as the games where I think about that West

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Virginia game as kind of a chief example. But this

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asked to control games, they do it pretty easily. Like

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quality drives. And it's funny over the past two weeks,

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in that game against Cincinnati and in that game against

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Colorado that they both lost, I would say it has

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kind of lost in different ways. When you look at

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the way that they lost that Colorado game, they were

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not able to get Colorado off the field. I think

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that BYU can do the ball control stuff that Colorado

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did in that game. When you look at the Cincinnati game,

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it was much more that Cincinnati was able to win

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big on the offensive line. Now, I think that BYU's

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offensive line is not quite as good as last year,

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but I think that they have in bear Bachmeyern, LJ.

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Martin more weapons available to them to take advantage of it.

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to control this game. I think that they're going to

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be able to limit Iowa States rushing attack especially and

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make them one dimensional. And I think that ultimately in

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a more low scoring game that people expect, I expect

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the why you to come out victorious?

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Speaker 3: Love that breakdown. Shahan jeror Rajah.

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Speaker 2: Here on ESPN The Fan representing CBS Sports college football

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insider Shahan what do you make right now of just

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college football as a whole through seven eight weeks now,

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how would you describe.

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Speaker 3: The biggest storylines?

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Speaker 2: I know you've brought some of these on your show,

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on your podcast, The College Football Insiders, et cetera. But

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what would you say are the key storylines of college

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football through eight weeks now?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that more than anything else, I mean,

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you have to look at the level of unpredictability and

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charity that there's been through the first couple of weeks.

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because I think that you look at the Southeastern Conference,

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they haven't played in either of the past two national

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title games. I don't necessarily know that they have the

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top five team in the country right now in terms

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of overall quality, and I think there's a couple of

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reasons for that. I think that college football is moving

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towards more of a developmental mindset, ironically, whereas I think

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that a lot of the big brands are still trying

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Big ten teams are winning from that perspective. I think

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been harder to maintain quality depth. You know, if you've

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got a second string or third string player that you

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want to bring along slowly, well maybe he could go

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start somewhere else and there could be more immediate financial

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interesting situation, and I think that it's made for again

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a more unpredictable sport than we've seen in a long while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I think it's great. I think

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it's grant. I think it's wonderful. Do you think the

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SEC and Big Ten like the current state of college

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football with so much parity?

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several years. I mean, you know, get Texas went on

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the road and needed over time to beat Kentucky and

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they lost to Florida, who might miss a bowl game,

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you know. Now, I think that also, like I think

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that that those middle to lower class teams like they

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need some of this parody, right, they need the top

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to be a little bit more accessible. And I think that,

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you know, I think the Big Ten is very happy

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with where they're in terms of you know, they've got

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a lot of programs that are championship caliber, right when

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you talk about Penn State or sorry not Penn State,

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Ohio State, Indiana, and Oregon. They've got more teams that

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I think can get into that playoff mix, like a USC.

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to maybe contend in future years. So I mean, I

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think that it's kind of a mixed bag. They love

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the fact that there are so many quality teams in

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their conference, but it also means that there is a

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tougher path for individual teams that there's ever been before.

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Speaker 2: Love that breakdown, and I can't wait to see what

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the College football you know, the college football Playoff prognosticators

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predictors are beginning their their bracketology right now. I don't

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know if you guys have posed your bracketology or your

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individual bracketology.

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Speaker 3: How do you see it right now?

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Speaker 2: Who are your favorites to make it to the college

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football Playoff right now?

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Speaker 4: Well, we just did one mid season, not this past week,

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but before that, and this was before the Utah game.

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I will say that I had YU making the field

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as an at large at the eleven seed. I had

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Texas Tech as well. Obviously they lost a game after that,

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but I still think that they're in very good shape

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to make it. You know, the top I think is

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very obvious. Right You've got Ohio State, You've got Indiana,

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is still in good shape. From the ACC the secs

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where I think it gets most interesting. You know, Alabama

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has been since Week one the best team in that conference.

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Texas A and m still undefeated at seven to zero

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as well number three in the country. But you know,

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I think that sort of that second tier of contenders

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is where it's going to get really interesting because there

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are maybe three other teams or four or five other

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teams from the SEC who have a chance, but who

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also but then again, any of those teams could potentially

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lose their case spending on what happens in the second

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half of the year. I think for the Big Ten,

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it's hard to find a fourth team that's going to

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make it. And then with the kind of the later

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at largest, you have the second tier or kind of

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other contenders in the Big twelve with ABYU, a Utah

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and Arizona State. You have Notre Dame as a ten

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and two potential team. You have Georgia Tech right now

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as an unfeeded do I think is.

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Speaker 5: Going to lose a couple more games, so it's going

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to be a really tight race for I would say

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spots eight through eleven in the college football playoffs, and ultimately,

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I think the teams that manage to take care of

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business are the ones that are going to be in

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best shape.

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Speaker 2: Shahan jer Roger here on esp and the Fan representing

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CBS Sports College Football Inside or getting into another college

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football segment, who's your favorite right now to win the

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Heisman or who are some of your candidates right now

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to win the Heisman.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that this is one of the most

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difficult heis and races that we've ever had. I mean,

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it's funny if if Ashton Gentz was playing college football

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this year, he might win every single vote because there

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is not a single person who I think has clearly

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set themselves apart. I've seen people start to air towards

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Ty Simpson, the quarterback at Alabama. I personally don't love

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that case. I think he's a tremendous player, but it

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feels very much defaulting to best quarterback on team we like,

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you know, obviously, I think that there's something similar for

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Julian say And at Ohio State, who's played really well

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but hasn't really been asked to do that much. So

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when you talk about the Heisman, I think that the

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Heisman above all is a story award. Yeah, obviously, stats

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and you know, impact and all this sort of stuff matter,

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but it's not the most viable player. It's not you know,

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whatever you want to call it like. It is a

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story award. And I think that Trap the Country last

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year is a good example of that. And so I

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think that's right now and it's still early. They have

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a month and a half of games left to go.

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But if you want to talk about a player who

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has the best story I think in college football right now,

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give me Trinidad Chambliss at Ole Miss Division two transfer

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from Farris States when the national championship there last year.

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After not starting the season as a full time starter,

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he comes into twenty twenty five as the backup to

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Austin Simmons. Simmons gets hurt and he just balls out.

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He leads him, of course, to win over LSU. He

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takes Georgia to the wire. They have a couple more

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opportunities to get into the mix. His stats have been really,

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really good, even though he didn't start the first two games,

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so it's a little bit of a wild card. But

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if they're able to finish the season at at least

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ten and two and be in the college football playoffs,

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and Trinidad Chambliss puts up close to four thousand yards

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of offense, I think he's going to have a very

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legitimate chance to come away with the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 3: Love that breakdown.

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Speaker 2: I do think it is a storytelling, a storytelling and

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stat combined with stat type of award, and I think

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there's a strong case for that. What do you think

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of the Doak Walker race right now in college food?

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But why do you think, like running the ball? Running

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backs in college football make a much bigger impact for

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their respective teams than they end up having in the

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National Football League.

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Speaker 3: It's just a change.

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Speaker 2: League now, And so like being a being capable to

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run the ball effectively and have a bell cow back

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in college football typically lends itself to more wins and championships,

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big bowl games and making their way through now the

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college football playoff. What do you see in the Doak

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Walker Award mid season race.

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Speaker 4: No, that's an interesting question, and I think you're absolutely right.

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I think the individual running backs matter a whole lot

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in college football. And by the way, when you look

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around the sport right now, I think that it has

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been as difficult a year to run the ball with

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some of the offensive line turnover we've had and some

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of the issues that teams have had than it's ever been.

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So teams that can run the ball are in a really,

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really good position. I think right now, for me, it's

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a two player raise. My leader right now is Amaud

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Hardy at Missouri. I think that he has been unbelievable. He,

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I think, as much as anybody, has been the reason

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that this Missouri team did not fall off after losing

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multiple receivers to the NFL. And I think that he's

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just one of those players that so many of his

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yards come after contact as well, and I think that

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he's been huge for that team. You know, a player

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who I think had a better case maybe in the

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first half of the year, and I'm a little worried

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how the second half is going to go. Is Justice

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Haynes at Michigan as well. That offensive line is not

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the kind of offensive line that you came to expect

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under Sharan Mora at Michigan during Jim Harbaugh's tenure. But

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he has been a huge impact for this team. He

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was a big part of winning some of these games early,

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including you know, and so I think he is just

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a game changing running back. But I mean, hey, you know, obviously,

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I know that you guys are aware. I mean LJ.

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Martin right now is number six in the nation and

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rushing yards, Jeremiah Love that Notre Dame office came into

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the year as an All American contender. He's been a

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little more inconsistent, but so There are a lot of

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really good running backs right now, but I think that

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Hardy would be my favorite, with Haines and maybe Martin

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kind of rounding out that top three.

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Speaker 2: I like the breakdown cheon. What have you guys been

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broaching on your show recently? How can we follow you,

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how can we support you? Et cetera? Give us a

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few pitches here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can follow me on all social media at

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Sean J. Roja. Read all my work at CBS sports

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dot com. Follow our podcast to culle Schibles Insiders. I

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am on episodes usually every Thursday and Sunday, and we

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actually just got off of our episode today. We previewed

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the week of Games Ahead, and we really looked into

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some of the coaching carousel stuff, including, by the way,

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some surprising candidates who could get into the mix. Don't worry, though,

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Kalani Sutaki is not one of them.

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Speaker 3: I'd like you do.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Lannie has been at all flirtatious

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with some of these job openings, and which job openings

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have at least reached out?

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Speaker 3: Do you think to Klan because there's gonna be a

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lot of them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're seeing more and more of these pop

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up and and firings are occurring, and and it's it's

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it's it's sad, but it's uh, it's uh, it's the

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nature of this college football beast that we've built. Are

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there any teams that are reaching out to Killani?

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Speaker 3: Do you think?

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Speaker 4: Well? First of all, I'd say if I am an

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athletic director in the Western United States, like Colonie Sataki

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might be my first call. He is doing such an

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incredible job of course at BYU, and I think are

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is about to put together back to back ten win

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seasons in the Big twelve. But you asked about has

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he been flirtatious? I mean not at all. For the

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most part.

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Speaker 6: I think that I think.

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Speaker 4: That UCLA is a program that will try to reach out.

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But I think that at this moment in time, b

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why you can offer Klonie Sataki more as a football

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coach than UCLA can, even though obviously they're not in

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the Big ten. And so I don't expect very much

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move mint. I expect, assuming the season ends the way

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that we think that Klannie's talk is going to be

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back and very happy and probably rewarded with another well

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deserved contract. So no, I wouldn't worry too much fun

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with byu san. But you know, again, I think that

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there are a lot of jobs that he would do

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a really good job at, and I think he's more

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than earned the right to at least consider them, even

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if I think that he won't ultimately choose any of them.

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Speaker 3: I think his in laws live in Florida.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Oh man, No, well, well, hey, listen,

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I love my in laws. Is that sometimes that can

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be a blessing or a curse, you know, But seriously,

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I think that he is very, very happy where he's at,

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and you know, obviously has has a wonderful family that

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I know has loved getting to grow up in probo

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love it.

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Speaker 3: Sheon.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, man, thanks for hopping off for a

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college football segment.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in.

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Jerem Jordan of b YU TV JJ.

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Speaker 6: How that are you, buddy, Ben Brett, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: How are we going?

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Speaker 3: Living right? Man? Feeling right? It's a great day to

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be a Cougar.

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Speaker 2: Seven to zero in football BYU basketball. He's predicted to

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be an Elite eight. Dare I say final four team?

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All is well right now in Cougar Country.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's going great, man, good vibes here in

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Kansas City. I'm actually in the airport heading back tonight

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from Big twelve Basketball media days. Great event. People excited

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about the game three and a half hours to the

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north of me at Iowa State coming up this weekend. So, man,

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I don't know if it could be much better.

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 6: You always eighth and the A people in the men

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to hoops and eleventh in football.

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Speaker 3: Life's good, bro, So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned those numbers right last year we had this discussion.

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Actually yesterday both teams BYU football and BYU basketball ended

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up thirteenth overall in the final ap pole. I believe,

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pretty crazy, right Versus the expectations that both teams had

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last year. It's obviously that football overachieved and to a

534
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certain extent, basketball achieved the expectation because there was a

535
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lot of hype surrounding this BYU basketball team. So now

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going into twenty twenty five, you see what football and

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what basketball expected to do.

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Speaker 3: Like, what's the follow up to this? What will be

539
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the end? You know with the dust settles? What are

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we going to be talking about here?

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Speaker 2: Is it another overachieving year for BYU football and a

542
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hitting quota for basketball this year?

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Speaker 6: I mean, if basketball can go to the Final four,

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then that that was incredible. Even though I know they

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have a final four level team, they have one of

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the best five players in the country, is validated by

547
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the AP preseason First Team All American list with aj

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de Bontnet. They probably have the number one or two

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pick obviously in aj SO basketball, Yeah, they have to

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go at least the lead day with this roster, seeing

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the one the investment in the roster and two who

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they have and the continuity of the coaching staff, which,

553
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by the way, Kevin Young told me yesterday that multiple

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coaches on the staff had head coaching offers elsewhere but

555
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chose to stay at BYU because they love Provo, they

556
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love the school, they love the roster. Obviously, big things

557
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are going to happen for this staff and these guys

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from a big year. So there's a lot of investment there.

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But in football, it's an interesting question because they've done

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it again. They've surprised people, they've overachieved. You know, there

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were some places that said, hey, six and a half

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wins for this team with a true freshman quarterback at

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seven and zero, what do we raise our sides to

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I'm still I am currently standing in the show me

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state that is Missouri. I'm still in show me mode

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with football relative to Big twelve title game and college

567
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football playoffs. Foil could very well go too and zero

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in the next two games, and now I'm willing to

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embrace that. But if they split, they're still in the mix,

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which is good. But if they unfortunately, if they went

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on two, that sort of ends. Right now you're in

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a tie breaking meeting scenario with you loss and so

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on and so forth. So I'm still in show me mode.

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I like what this boy team is done. They don't

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have style points.

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Speaker 4: But they just win.

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Speaker 6: And the next two weeks is certainly going to tell

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us where we should go with the expectations. But if

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you're asking me, like, okay, right now, end of the year,

580
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what are we talking about is did they get to Arlington?

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But then you go back to bear Backmeyer and you go, well,

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did they win nine games in the regular season? Preseason?

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That's how I felt. I was thinking eight four, but

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I thought and nine and three. I think they can

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maybe do that. That'd be incredible. And if you get

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ten in a bowl game, there's only been four to

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freshman quarterbacks since two thousand that have won ten games.

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I mean, the expectations for this guy continue to go up.

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But we have to remember how crazy. This is of

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what he's done so far, and it's still not over.

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Speaker 2: The analytics ESPN analytics at least lean to a ten

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and two regular season. What do you if that is

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an accurate depiction, Where do you foresee the two losses coming?

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Speaker 6: It's a good question, you'd think at Texas Tech right

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and Baron Morton not gonna play this week? Will Hamm's

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the starter A supported this morning. I think they realized, Okay,

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we gotta ramp it up. Loklahoma State's not the game

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where you have to have Parry Morton back.

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Speaker 4: He's missed, you know.

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Speaker 6: Time three different times. Tech feels up one. Frankly at

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Iowa State feels like that's probably the second most likely lost.

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You look at Cincinnati and they look like the ASU

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from last year. But the metrics on Cincinnati put him

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at like I have six seventh in the Big twelve

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right now, which is really interesting. They kind of put

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vou in third, which is interesting. I have DA second

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in the Big twelve in terms of best teams. I

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have tex Still, they've lost one game by four on

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the road against the defending champs with their backup quarterback.

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They shouldn't be punished a ton for that. I think

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techs still the best team in the league. But yeah,

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I think the next two games determined a lot. Obviously

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at Cincinnati two. So you have three roadings.

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Speaker 4: Men, you got to.

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Speaker 6: Get one of them at least if you want to

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be an Arlington, you probably need to. If UO you

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walked in with one loss at the end of the

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regular season, they're going to be in that title game.

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You don't want to get bundled up like last year

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with a bunch of the two loss teams and now

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you're hoping on random tie breakers and you may not

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make it in like Boi didn't last year.

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Speaker 2: Charm Jordan here on ESPN the Fan talking to BYU Football,

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BYU Basketball. He was out at Big twelve Basketball Media Days.

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What were some of the jebs that you were able

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to obtain through your interviews, your cat, your your your

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your interactions, your interviews, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: I love that. Kevin Young said. Aj De Bonca has

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the opportunity to be the best defensive player in the nation,

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and he said we're asking him to do a lot

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on the offensive end, but his length and his ability

632
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on the defensive end, he said, sometimes he's gonna want

633
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to take a breather on the defensive end because of

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what we're asking him on offense. But the ceiling for

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him defensively is high now. Against Nebraska, there were a

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few moments right where he did need a breather, and

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they've got to address defensively how they attack that. They

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allowed ninety points. They allowed forty seven percent from three.

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They didn't play everybody the whole time like they're going

640
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to Friday against UNC. Kevin Young also told me he

641
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wants to play the targets more like a regular game.

642
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They did not play the starters all in the second half.

643
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We didn't see Rob Wright the third, we didn't see

644
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Capakta very much. Those guys played less than twenty minutes each.

645
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Those guys are probably in the twenty eight to thirty

646
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two minute category when we get into the regular season.

647
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They're both kind of fighting through a couple of minor

648
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injuries they're getting over. Also, I love that Richie Saunders

649
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is not worried about kind of his role in this offense.

650
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Neither is Kevin Young. Like Kevin told me, you could

651
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plug Ritchie into the top eight teams in the NBA

652
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right now and he would function schematically, he faces the floor.

653
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He's good off ball. He wants Richie to and Richie

654
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told me this as well. The next step for him

655
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is to become a very good on ball defender. And

656
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Rob r at the third is excited about kind of

657
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getting downhill, getting in transition. He told me he's quicker

658
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with the ball than without the ball, which is wild.

659
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So I'm excited to see these guys play and see

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them gel and it's there may be a few losses

661
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here and there that we don't expect, because one, they're

662
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playing a tough schedule too, they've got to gel together.

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And three, let's see how that defense approves, because last

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year that's probably the thing that you know, kept them

665
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at it going a little longer. Obviously, Alabama goes off

666
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for what was it, twenty five to three in the

667
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sweet sixteen. Certainly, if you play a little bit better

668
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defense overall, you give yourself a better seed, a better chance,

669
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a better opportunity to make a run in March. And

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I'm not worried about the offense at all. Devin Young

671
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is gonna run that part. They were the best offense

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in the last twenty five years, maybe ever for BYU.

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I expect them to be even better with the best

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individual player in America in Aj Debonta, who can get

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a shot off on anybody.

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Speaker 3: One of the things we were debating.

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Speaker 2: I want to say this was maybe a week and

678
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a half ago on the show is last year we

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had Yegor come in high expectations, lottery pick, labeled all

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those things, and by mid season BYU fans and maybe

681
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even national media and others were questioning whether or not

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the hype was real. We obviously know that on the

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back end of the schedule, the back end of the

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season BYU climax and crescendoed into their best selves, and

685
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so did Yegor and the gentleman is balling out in

686
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the NBA now and he was a lottery pick, went

687
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eighth overall to the nets.

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Speaker 3: It was great, It was great, It was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Will we be in the same situation with Aj by

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mid season or is it just going to be declarative

691
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right off the bat that Aj is the guy, he's

692
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the dude, he's the best player in college basketball, and

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he's showcasing it night in and night out.

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Speaker 6: I think we've had multiple evidences of this. One is

695
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typically when we kugarnation hype something. It's us saying it

696
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right Loan Peak three, Final four. The country was not saying,

697
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oh look at Yu, They're going to God for we

698
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were the ones quest for perfection. That was internal in

699
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ol way from Bronko Menenhall. Who's saying what about aj?

700
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It's everybody else. Then it's everyone else telling us he's

701
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this good. He's the number one or number two pick

702
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,559
at preseason first team All American. We're not the ones

703
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that did w associated pressed it the voters, did you

704
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know Big twelve? Somehow he wasn't the Big twelve Freshman

705
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of the year by the way, which hey, Darren Peterson's

706
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great too, but how are you the first team All

707
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Big twelve unanimous sky which anyway, it's everyone else telling

708
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us that I think out of the gate. Also at Nebraska,

709
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the fact that he goes for thirty in the first

710
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exhibition and he's ten of nineteen overall, he's two or

711
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,039
four from three, he's eight of eight from the free

712
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throw line, he drew seven fouls. Those are all NBA

713
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:21,159
like numbers. This guy is great right now. He probably

714
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,360
would have been the number one pick against Cooper plag

715
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:25,800
even if he had gone out of year early, which

716
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,079
Cooper plag you know, win a year early. By the way,

717
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,159
he reclassified in high school, so that would have been interesting.

718
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,239
But everyone else is telling us it's not us. So

719
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:37,960
we can buy into the hype on him on this

720
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,960
one because the sources are sound.

721
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: I love it.

722
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: Jerrem Jordan here on ESPN the fan Little Cougar Beat

723
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:48,880
brought to you by our good friends at Game Day

724
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,960
mench Health, Game daymanchealth dot Com. So jerem uh, let's

725
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:59,840
discuss what this BYU basketball team will look like from

726
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,480
a rotation standpoint or a chemistry standpoint.

727
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: I think one of the.

728
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,599
Speaker 2: Biggest tasks, the biggest challenges that k Why has is

729
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:12,920
getting I guess everybody involved and feeding all the talent

730
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:15,599
that is on this roster. He did a great job

731
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,400
last year. Can he do it again in twenty twenty five,

732
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,480
twenty twenty six.

733
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it'll take a minute. I mean, I think

734
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:26,519
it's pretty clearly defined that Rob Wright third, Richie Songers,

735
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:29,960
A d. Dumontster, Canard Davis mu Kvakata. There's the starting spot,

736
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:33,199
like lock that in with Charbi and then it's you

737
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,920
know who's healthy and who's coming along, you know, Tyler

738
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,000
Russ I think is it's sort of a trem and

739
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,679
not nail type in terms of three point shooting off

740
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:43,400
the bench. I think Mihali Boskovich has a similar role.

741
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:47,519
Nadim Mbop what roll with he'll play because he had

742
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:50,519
a double double against Nebraska in limited minutes and I

743
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,920
thought he was pretty good. The retro freshman from Senegal,

744
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:56,840
Xavion Stateton is going to be a rim protector, rim roller.

745
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,760
That will be interesting. Nick Pickens probably your back and

746
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,679
point guard, but he's coming off an injury. Dawson Banker

747
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:06,280
little banged up, we know what he provides. Dominicia Monday.

748
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,239
There wasn't a guy like him on last year's roster.

749
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,119
A six with seven, real long wing who wants to

750
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:15,880
dunk on everybody. Alexei Kostitch has international experience with Austria

751
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:19,320
as a shooter, so there's a lot of Brody Kozlowski

752
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,719
banged up, we'll see what he provides is kind of

753
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,199
a stretch for You're right, there's a lot of mouths

754
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,679
to feed here. I think the starting lineup is as

755
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:30,360
good as anyone's in the country. Who's healthy, What role

756
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,920
can they provide what kind of instant impacts can those

757
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,679
guys have off the bench. I think that's TVD and

758
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,239
it'll take a minute. Like last year it was, this

759
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,519
is a new staff, it's a new look roster with

760
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:44,599
certain positions. You know, Yegor hurt his knee for a while,

761
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,760
Dallen Hall coming off the bench. There was all these

762
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:50,679
quotational situations and questions. I don't know that it's going

763
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,440
to be as visas it was last year because you've

764
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480
got five great dudes in the starting lineup. I see

765
00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:58,280
you ride them and you try and get to kind

766
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,239
of eight or nine BYU was toying with ten or

767
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,000
eleven right there at the end of the year. Just

768
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:05,760
depends who provides what at what point, who's healthy. But

769
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,199
I think it will take a minute. Like when you

770
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,280
need to be good is February March. You don't have

771
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,400
to figure that out until then. And so I think

772
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,039
there is a little bit of patience and we're gonna

773
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:20,800
get antsy though, because we look at Clemson in Wisconsin

774
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,320
and Yukon and you want those wins. But boy's going

775
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,760
to be rewarded for a tough schedule and hopefully they're

776
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,679
one two or three seed and they have a great

777
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,159
path to hopefully something special in March.

778
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:36,559
Speaker 2: Every year there's a surprise, maybe on the roster, there's

779
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:40,159
someone that steps up and maybe overachieves.

780
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: I want to say.

781
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: Last year, like Tray Stewart really really balled out at

782
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:53,920
critical times for BYU, maybe overachieved versus the expectation that

783
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:58,079
was placed on him leading up to the season. Trevin actually,

784
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:00,480
I think played well and kind of made doubt into

785
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:04,880
believers last season. The sharpshooter at a woods Cross High school?

786
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:08,119
Who is it going to be this year for the Cougars?

787
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 6: Do you think the good question?

788
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,079
Speaker 4: Uh?

789
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 6: From a bench perspective, I wonder if I'm Boop is

790
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,760
the guy that gives you some some punch off the bench.

791
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,400
That's just a little different. As a sixty nine redshirt freshman,

792
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,960
he's pretty raw. I think he's gonna have some games

793
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,119
where we go, hey, that's awesome. Dominique Diamande could be

794
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:29,800
that guy. He's got NBA athleticism at six' seven From.

795
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,159
France red shirted At washington last, Year Super Long. Frame

796
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:36,480
he's played for The Augri. Coast he's actually connected With

797
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,000
charles Bull in that in that, space which is pretty.

798
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,480
Cool he might be the. GUY i don't know that

799
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:43,840
it's gonna be like to your point Of Trey trey

800
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,800
wasn't the guy that was scoring double. Figures Trey stewart

801
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,119
was What preston res has become the last two games

802
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,039
From boy And boa. Football it's a player too, here

803
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239
here or there that really helped. You, Right you're not

804
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,920
asking him to be a massive, factor but is he

805
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,400
he is a piece of the. PUZZLE i wonder if

806
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,280
a guy Like Dom diamonde could be that, guy because

807
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,039
they Need Tyler moruss to be in the, rotation they

808
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:07,880
Need boskovic to provide some they Need baker to get

809
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,920
healthy and be one of those veteran. Leaders But diamande

810
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,920
from an athleticism, standpoint he's the kind of guy THAT

811
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,400
ua has coming off the. Bench BUT i don't know

812
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:19,760
that Previously ulay's really. Had if that guy was that,

813
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,880
athletic he was probably in the starting. LINEUP i think

814
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,800
this is a good situation FOR ua to develop a

815
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,440
guy like that WITH nba athleticism in length love.

816
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: That breakdown and the other guy forgotten what mag maybe

817
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:34,199
was the favorite.

818
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,559
Speaker 3: There like as far as the, overachievers and the.

819
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: Individual side maybe over you, know just kind of over

820
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,000
delivered for the. Expectation but what mag was probably the

821
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,119
winner of that award last.

822
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:49,039
Speaker 6: Year three AND d guy corner. Threes you, know that's that's,

823
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,400
awesome is who is that guy on this? Team who's

824
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,800
the you, KNOW i Think Canard davis takes that, role

825
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,239
BUT i Think canards a better. Scorer last year he

826
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,880
put up SIXTEEN a, Games so then that's not a role. Player, Dude.

827
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:02,519
Speaker 3: Love that.

828
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,519
Speaker 2: Breakdown Jerrem jordan here ON espn The, Fan, Jerrem let's,

829
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:10,760
uh let's revert back to some comments made By Brian

830
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,440
santiago At big Twelve Basketball Media. Days one of the

831
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,000
things he, MENTIONED i think was the thing that makes

832
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:22,360
him most intrigued is kind of like the momentum and

833
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,920
the the that that the entire athletic department, has but

834
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:29,400
like the the two teams B yu, football B yu,

835
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,800
basketball the great coaching, staff maybe even the. Resources like

836
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,559
when when you INTERACTED i don't know how often you

837
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:38,159
did when you were out there at The big Twelve

838
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:41,239
basketball media, days what sense do you get about the

839
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,719
next step FOR byu athletics under the, tutelage under the

840
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,519
vision Of Brian.

841
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:51,159
Speaker 6: Santiago DID i interact With? Brian DID i take an

842
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,159
uber With brian at one am On monday?

843
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: Night?

844
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: YES i did.

845
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:59,199
Speaker 3: So, Yes YES i knew. IT i knew. It.

846
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 6: YEAH i think the next step is maintaining WHAT voi

847
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:05,480
is doing right, now BECAUSE i don't know. That you

848
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:07,960
have to get it. Better look at What VOI's doing right.

849
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,119
Now you need to get To arlington at some point

850
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:13,880
in the next three. Years in, football you need to

851
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,639
win A big, twelve right that's the next step of this.

852
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:16,880
Program and maybe it's this.

853
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: Year who.

854
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 6: Knows maybe the team keeps it going and with the

855
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,360
true freshmen they exceed all the. Expectations in, basketball, yeah

856
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,760
it's like get to An elite, eight get to A final.

857
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,119
Four you always the MOST ncaa tournament appears is ever

858
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:30,320
for a team that hasn't gone to The planal. Four

859
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,280
you have the best player In, america you have one

860
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,239
of the you could argue the best coach under forty

861
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,119
five in college. BASKETBALL i, mean this is the. Time

862
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:46,559
so do those things maintain excellence where you're competing some

863
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:51,000
conference championship and the two main sports continue The olympic sports.

864
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:55,719
Excellence the boas produced in soccer and volleyball and cross

865
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,519
country and so on and so, forth continue to elevate

866
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,760
s or it's like women's basketball on stop and so,

867
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,440
on continue to raise, funds nil recruit at a super high. Level,

868
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,039
obviously what football and basketball are doing is. Amazing SO

869
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,519
i don't know that it, is, hey we have to do,

870
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:13,679
something we have to win A natty in basketball or.

871
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,119
FOOTBALL i don't think it's. That obviously down the, road

872
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:18,159
you want to get to, that but you got to

873
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:20,960
compete for and win conference. Championship and let's maintain what

874
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,159
boy is doing right. Now they don't have to go

875
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,719
seven to zero every. Year BUT i would love to

876
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,239
be in the space where we feel Like day's going

877
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,920
eight plus every year and once every couple of. Years,

878
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,400
yes they are competing for the conference, championship they're winning,

879
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,079
It they're in the playoff at some point in the

880
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:38,159
next three. Years and if they expand a, sixteen that certainly.

881
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:41,199
Helps but maintain what you're, doing keep it, going don't

882
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,920
be a flash in the, pan because there's programs that do.

883
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,719
THAT i Think boys built to last though right, now

884
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,079
and the, physical, emotional social investment THE uyu has right

885
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:52,440
now looks like it's going to be.

886
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: Sustainable one last thing before we let you, Go JERALD

887
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:59,920
B yu just got to win over there.

888
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,119
Speaker 3: Rival what a glorious day it. Is three in a.

889
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: Row they got a working. Streak, Now, YEAH i couldn't believe.

890
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,880
It it was, crazy it was, amazing it was wonderful as.

891
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:14,199
Grand look the the fallen state Of man is one

892
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,079
of comparative.

893
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 3: Culture it's the enmity between. Neighbors it is.

894
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,599
Speaker 2: That that competition that drives up sometimes the keeping up

895
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:30,880
with the. Jones is HAS byu now surpassed its neighbors in?

896
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: Football is it on the same?

897
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: Level is it surpassing its Neighbor what does the future

898
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,199
look like of this rivalry on the, gridiron SPECIFICALLY byu

899
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:44,960
Versus Utah holy?

900
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 6: War in my completely biased, Opinion, yeah let's look at

901
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,920
WHEN byu has been on level a level playing field

902
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,519
With utah as an. Independent obviously they were not always

903
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,800
doing the best it could at the. Time utah was

904
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,639
in a power conference for over a decade over VU.

905
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:05,320
Au they have this massive head. Start when they've both

906
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,119
been in The big twelve or even announced in The big,

907
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:11,800
twelves you always three and oh Against utah since they've

908
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,440
been announced in The big. Twelve those margins you, know

909
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:19,719
are are nine one in, three so they're always close. Games,

910
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,360
like it's not Like utah is far behind in that.

911
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,440
Space but the way we aloys recruiting tells us a.

912
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,760
Lot next year's class is the greatest recruiting class you

913
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,960
always ever. Had now in the, eighties if they had

914
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,719
recruiting rankings MADE vba was. Higher who, knows but what

915
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,360
boys doing, nationally the kind of kids they're, getting the

916
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,280
coaching staff that the coaches that they're, Acquiring, yes it

917
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,079
is a new. ERA yu is the number one team

918
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,920
in the state and the head to, head the, recruiting

919
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:51,079
the perception, nationally it's it's. HAPPENING i Think dave McCann

920
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:52,960
called it a couple of years. Ago people mocked. It

921
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:55,639
he was, right and it's exciting to see where this is.

922
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:58,000
GOING i, Mean bloways going to get a nine game

923
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,440
win streak Against he's not necessarily certainly hope, so but

924
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,039
those GAMES boi has equal to or more. Talent now

925
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:08,280
you heard it From Aaron roddrick On Coordinator's. Corner he,

926
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,360
said WHEN i was up At, Utah, yeah it wasn't

927
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,639
it wasn't the same because we were in a power

928
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,000
league that were. Not it's a level playing field now

929
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,400
And VOI's thriving right. Now they're doing, great and it's

930
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,880
the end of the year For. Utah you don't know

931
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,800
how Long kyle's gonna. Go Morgan scully takes. Over they

932
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,360
hope there's some continuity, there but With colinie's tack at

933
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,800
the Helm, man things are going. Great you Hope Jay

934
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,079
hill's here, forever.

935
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: But he's not gonna.

936
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 6: Be so enjoy the time he's calling the defense because

937
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,760
right now it's. Special Aaron rodgers offense continues to do its.

938
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,320
Thing he got Bart bachmeyer for a couple of years

939
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,679
and then you got the they're a parent after. That

940
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,559
so it's, exciting.

941
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: Man so how much longer can b a fans At JOY. J?

942
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,320
Hill do you Think.

943
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 6: I'm hoping another two or three? YEARS i, mean If

944
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,880
i'm If i'm a power force school off, THERE i

945
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on the mortality of. LIFE i hope that he's enjoying

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upset which is funny for the number eleven team in

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the country another you know road dog Or himen Home

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ground game gets. GOING i think L j And bart

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continue what they've been. Doing sixty fourth rushing defense in

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the country For Iowa state that three, three. Five you

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create more problems in the run game Than Devin Dan pierre.

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we'll see you much Love Jerem. Jordan ladies and, Gentlemen

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