WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:04.240 Rogan to Rodney AM five to seventy LA Sports. You 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:05.839 know you can always listen to us as well. On 3 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:09.759 the iHeartRadio app. Ben Maller Jonas knocks in for the 4 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:14.039 guys here on a Tuesday, it is MLB trade deadline day. 5 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:19.079 And if you're wondering when is the big blockbuster move 6 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:22.359 for the Los Angeles Dodgers. When are the Dodgers gonna 7 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.320 make the move? Don't worry you are not alone. We're 8 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:27.920 also wondering the same thing as well too, because Ben Mallor, 9 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:30.679 this has been a pretty slow MLB trade deadline. 10 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.880 Now, well we just we did have trade. The Mets 11 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:38.200 have acquired the great Paul Blackburn, hey by athletics. That's big. 12 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:42.039 You mentioned that trade the Royals made earlier. For who 13 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:46.679 they get again, Paul DeJong so and in the White 14 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:48.920 Sox are playing the Royals, so he just gets to 15 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.159 go across the stadium there. The Dodgers at this point 16 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.000 are negotiating with crickets. I believe that they have not 17 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:57.880 there's nothing here, but they still have a little less 18 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.880 than two hours to go right right when we get 19 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.840 done and pass the baton to the great Petrols and 20 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:08.319 Money Show, they will end, music stop, musical chairs end, 21 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:10.239 and so there's still time. There's a bunch of relief 22 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:13.280 pictures I've never heard of who have, Like the Marlins 23 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:17.120 are unloading their entire bullpen, the trading relief pitchers here, there, 24 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:21.239 and everywhere. The athletics, like the real bottom feeding teams 25 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:25.000 are trading away pitchers right and left. But I have 26 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:29.040 not seen anyone with name brand value that has been 27 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:31.239 traded today. Yes I missed it. 28 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:33.560 I remember the great JC Charguas, who was in the 29 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:36.840 Dodger bullpen some years ago, traded Marlins the Mariners. 30 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:38.640 Come on, oh there you go. How did I forget 31 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:43.120 that one? I can't believe. Yeah, all right, that's an example. 32 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:47.079 That's what we're getting today. So you know, I met Rosario. 33 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:49.719 That was the deal that was done last night. I'd 34 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:52.319 also like to point this out. Do the Rays have 35 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.280 enough people at this point to feel the team like 36 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.640 it feels like the Tampa Bay Raves have traded away 37 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:01.640 everybody within the vicinity any of their organization, Like, I 38 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.000 don't know what the plan is there. And didn't they 39 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:07.120 just announce they're building a new stadium they did so 40 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.680 your years down the line, Well, they're building a stadium, 41 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.680 and people in baseball. I've talked to people around over 42 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:15.280 the years. They love the Rays because they can do 43 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.879 whatever they want. It's like Frankenstein's laboratory. They can trade 44 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:21.840 any player. They don't because they have no fan base, 45 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.520 so they're not they're not beholden to the fan base. 46 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.240 Like who's gonna call up and complain because you trade 47 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.479 it away. It's like when you're a Raised fan. It's 48 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.719 like being a fan of a college football team because 49 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:35.479 the players are there for four years and then they 50 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:37.560 go to somewhere else and then you bring in new players, 51 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:39.840 new recruits and all that stuff. I was pretty it's 52 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:41.599 the same thing and like four years and you're out. 53 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:42.080 That's it. 54 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.680 I was just thinking about this, when's the last time 55 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:49.000 you saw anybody wearing a Raise jersey? 56 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.520 Like, like, like when the last time I saw I 57 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:54.319 can tell you who. I was a guy named rich 58 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:56.639 Area who worked in the early days at Fox Sports 59 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:59.000 Radio and the Olderson. I know that because he worked 60 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.560 on the Rays radio broadcast. And I actually I told 61 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:04.719 the story why about he. I went out and saw 62 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:06.759 him when they came in to play the Angels in Anaheim, 63 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.080 and he gave me like this bag full of Tampa 64 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.560 Bay raysed merchandise, which I still have if you want it. 65 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.479 I haven't opened it. But that's the only guy that 66 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.840 I ever saw where race though, like years ago. 67 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:19.919 I'm just thinking, like I can't recall ever seeing somebody 68 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.759 walk around in like an Evan Longoria jersey, Like I 69 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.840 just don't recall it happening like ever in my entire life. 70 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:29.080 I can remember a buddy of mine who's a diehard 71 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:32.719 Pirates fan, and I was in Pittsburgh and you know, 72 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:34.479 this was at the point where they were trading like 73 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.360 Nate mclouth like they were like they were just unloading 74 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.680 every bicle year. Yeah, And so I remember I met 75 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:43.840 this this sporting good store in Pittsburgh and I'm like, hey, man, 76 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:45.479 you know they got a bunch of Pirates jerseys here. 77 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:46.759 Do you want me to bring some back? So I 78 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:49.639 start reading off the names of like all the available 79 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.680 players that had jerseys there at this store, and he's. 80 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:53.960 Like, no, not him, not him. 81 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:58.479 And then I'm like, what about Zach Duke And he says, oh, yeah, 82 00:03:58.479 --> 00:03:59.719 you know what, I actually think he's gonna be with 83 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:03.759 them for a while, maybe a year. Got the jersey 84 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.319 and he was gone. So it is unfortunate to see 85 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:08.639 teams like the Pirates, the Raised all the Pirates feel 86 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.000 a little bit better about things with some of the 87 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.120 talent they have that are making deals here. And meanwhile, 88 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:17.120 you know the Dodgers, Tommy Edmund, Michael Kopek, Med Rosario. 89 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.720 That's the moves that we've got thus far for the 90 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:24.240 beloved Dodgers at the trade deadline, when everybody's looking around, 91 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:26.560 going are they going to make a move? We need 92 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:28.959 some help. Even Dave Roberts feels like he's saying, you know, 93 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:30.000 we could use some help here. 94 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.959 Well, another trade that came down. How about this ex 95 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.720 Dodger Caleb Ferguson, who I think has an era north 96 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:37.839 of five for the Yankees this year. No longer with 97 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.680 the Yankees. He has been traded to the cheating a 98 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:46.319 stros Right, So there you go, Caleb Ferguson going to Houston. 99 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.040 Does that get you excited? Not really. 100 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:50.160 I do wonder though, if some of these guys are 101 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:52.160 happy to be traded away from the Yankees because they 102 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:54.319 can finally grow out facial hair, Like, do they look 103 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.079 at it and go, oh, thank god. 104 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:58.959 Beer, you get all this shoveled and all that, and 105 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:02.639 the Yankees trying to trade ex Dodger Alex Rdugo supposedly, 106 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:05.839 who wouldn't want a two thirty eight hitting Alex Rdugo. 107 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:07.519 Come on, you can get him right now if you 108 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:11.319 want him, he's available, bring him back to the Dodgers. 109 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:13.160 Come on, that was the price. Do you believe the 110 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.759 Red Sox? What suckers? The Red Sox are? The Dodgers 111 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:17.959 trade That was the prize of the trade to get 112 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.800 Mookie Betts. Yeah, they traded Alex Rdugo essentially in a 113 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:25.279 couple of other you know. Second, that's got to be 114 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.720 in the conversation for one of the worst deals of 115 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:32.160 all time. Like Mookie Betts, say, first ballot Hall of 116 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.519 Fame in the modern era. They didn't want the Red Sox. 117 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:38.000 They want to pay him like the Red Sox. 118 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:39.639 Who do you think they have as much money as 119 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:41.920 the Dodgers or the Yankees. They didn't want to pay him. Also, 120 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.279 refresh my memory. Didn't Mookie want to stay in Boston? 121 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:46.240 Yeah? 122 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.839 They wouldn't meet his contract demands. Yeah, yeah, yes, he 123 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:49.439 did want to stay. 124 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.240 I would love I would love to know what those 125 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:55.000 contract demands were. That they at the time said as 126 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.279 the Red Sox to your point bends you know what, 127 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.000 They're really struggling to draw attendance there, Like it's really 128 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:01.199 you know, they don't have a lot of money to 129 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.160 throw around. I would love to know what what was 130 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.720 deemed to be too high of a price for Mookie Bets, 131 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.920 who's turned out to be a superstar on another level 132 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.600 with the Dodgers, Like, I do wonder what that price. 133 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.399 Has has Dodger Stadium become. It's not quite like you 134 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.279 go to Boston. You know, you go to the different city, 135 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:17.959 you look at things to do in different cities. You 136 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.279 go to Boston in like Finway Parks like number four 137 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.519 on the list of things to see yea, yeah, because 138 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:24.439 you know he's a freedom trail and all that, and 139 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.480 eventually get the Finway. But you come to LA. It's 140 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:32.040 like Dodger Stadium's is it the third oldest ballpark in baseball? 141 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:34.199 I think so. I think Fenway and Wrigley are the 142 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:34.879 only ones older. 143 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:35.160 Yeah. 144 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.720 Yeah, But when people come to Las, you have to 145 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:39.680 go to a Dodger game, right, because it's all the 146 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:41.639 entertainment stuff and all that. 147 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.160 I mean, would you rather go to Dodgers, especially the 148 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:46.399 way they've done it. They've built up the outfield like 149 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.480 they've made it's amazing. I mean, listen, you know, you know, 150 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:51.839 you know a Lesion Park and like you know some 151 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:54.680 of the you know, the surrounding areas they're like, you know, 152 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:56.519 a little bit dicey, but depending on who you are. 153 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.160 But like, if you go to a Dodger game, it's 154 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.279 no longer you're just sitting there and watching a game. 155 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.240 They've they've built up the beyond the outfield like it's 156 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.879 it's a really really nice place to go and hang 157 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:09.680 out if you're not if you don't have the ability 158 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:11.759 like a Fenway or a Wrigley that's got bars and 159 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.600 restaurants like right across the street within walking distance. They've 160 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:17.879 done a great job. Would you rather go to Dodger 161 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.480 Stadium or the Santa Monica Pear Like come on, man, now, 162 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.160 it's like get out to the game. 163 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:27.360 All right. As an added boy, I mean even going 164 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:29.279 to Dodger Stadium, like there's a bunch of stuff around 165 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.079 there if you're into like the entertainment stuff. And uh yeah, 166 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:34.639 my favorite fun fact about Dodgers dame. I know if 167 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:37.560 you know this Jonas. But yeah, the great Will Ferrell 168 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.680 basketball movie back in the day where I was, Uh, 169 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:42.399 what was the name of that movie? I forget the 170 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:45.319 name of it. The oh, I know remember movie. They 171 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:49.480 filmed it at the La Fire Academy Gym. There's like 172 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.160 a gymnasum right near Dodger Stadium, like near Lot thirteen 173 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.399 at Dodger Stadium. They filmed the basketball in that at 174 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:58.120 little gymnasium, Random Fun Factory. Every time I drive by there, 175 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:00.160 I think, oh, they filmed that movie there right this 176 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:01.480 old school gymnasium. 177 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.759 It was It was kind of cool, semi proram that movie. 178 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:06.480 That was pretty good movie. 179 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:09.920 Right were they the Tropics? Is that the name of 180 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:12.839 the team. Yeah, I believe they were there. That was 181 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:15.160 there the team. That sounds right to me. I just 182 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:17.079 thought of that as Dodger Stadium. It's just popped he 183 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.160 there's a lot to do there. But that's why, you know, 184 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.000 we encourage everybody to get out there. And if you 185 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.720 go out there, you're gonna get excited to see imed Rosario. 186 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.480 Who's gonna be U. The big addition though about Tommy 187 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:29.199 had been in center field. Come on, kids, Tommy had 188 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:31.199 been by the way. Let me just tell you this. 189 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:36.000 I cannot wait for round two Vassa versus mallor an 190 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:38.840 hour from now. I cannot wait to see how that goes. 191 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:40.519 I'm on the right side of history, of essays, on 192 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:42.679 the wrong side of history. And he went to the 193 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.799 dark side. I I I'm going to bring up I know, 194 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:46.480 and I'll bring this all way for when he's on 195 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:49.200 because I know the moment he went to the dark side. 196 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:51.519 I know when that happens. We used to be friends. 197 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:55.039 I've known for many, many years. But something he changed, 198 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.320 something happened, and I think I know the moment where 199 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.559 he went to the wrong eye to the road. Yeah, 200 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:03.200 I know what happened. I do. 201 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.000 Boy, well, listen, we don't know what the Dodgers are 202 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.000 going to do, if anything, with just a couple of 203 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:09.279 hours left in the lot of. 204 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.399 Trades, though, Jonas, there happening fast and furious, a lot 205 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:14.360 of trade, a lot, a lot of movement out there. 206 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:16.639 Dodger fan, let me tell you something. The Dodger fan 207 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.679 is numb. They're like they just they don't care anyway. 208 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.600 They're like the Dodgers gonna be in the playoffs and 209 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.240 they don't see them all worked up. Uh, the the 210 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.480 old school Dodger fan back in the old days when 211 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:29.600 the Dodgers they never made the playoffs or rarely made 212 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.200 the playoffs. Right, there was that period of time when 213 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:35.559 Frank McCord owned the team and it was the Heat 214 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:40.639 Saw Troy era of Dodger baseball. Yeah, not the greatest era, 215 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:43.240 you know, not the greatest era and all that, but 216 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.320 the people are very upset when they do anything. But 217 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.320 now it's like, well, they'll be in the playoffs, and 218 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.600 you know, it's like okay, they're just kind of numb to. 219 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:51.639 It's like, we'll see what happens in the playoffs coming up. 220 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:54.159 That's the vibe I'm getting. Am I getting the wrong Vibeine? 221 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.279 I think you are. Listen, we talked about it yesterday. 222 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:59.879 I wonder if the strategy for the Dodgers is let's 223 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.600 get healthy, Like, let's just get healthy. That's gonna be 224 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:04.759 our best path. This is the roster and the team 225 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:06.279 that we felt like we were gonna have on the 226 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.480 field all year. We've had bad luck with injuries. Let's 227 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.679 just get healthy and then and then those will be 228 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:15.159 our additions, our de facto trade deadline editions. As we 229 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:16.600 get ready for the postseason run. 230 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:16.840 Here. 231 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:19.240 That's the that's the vibe I get. But there are 232 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:21.480 other people that have a different vibe. Then there are 233 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:24.039 people listening here on the blow torch AM five seventy 234 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.279 like Ish in Riverside, Ish, what's happening? 235 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:29.919 What do you want? Man? What's your wishless for the 236 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:31.240 Dodgers at the deadline. 237 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.159 Hey, fellow, it's good to be with you guys. Man, 238 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:38.360 I'm going to join you guys now the gentlemen are 239 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.279 on vacation. But yeah, as far as some of the 240 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.600 trades and things like that, Honestly, as I was, you know, 241 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:47.120 talking with I think it's Kevin, I'd say, just hold tap. 242 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.960 You know, we really do have like the trades, I'm sorry, 243 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:54.039 the pieces, and honestly, in the off season, how much 244 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.639 bigger can you get, like unless you bring in somebody 245 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:00.159 like Aaron Judge, which is never gonna happen, right, you know, 246 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:02.879 I'm kind of sitting in that camp. We're like, Okay, 247 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.519 there's really not much that we can do except for 248 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:08.879 I really do think some of the adjustments that we 249 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:13.399 got to make. Scrap the whole scrap, scrap the pitching plan, 250 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.559 scrap all that stuff. You know, I'm not saying start 251 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.600 from scraps, but just you know, uh, make some major 252 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:21.960 adjustments that way. We need guys that are going to distance, 253 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.039 you know, more than five innings. We need the bullpen 254 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:26.840 to kind of get back to where they're the best 255 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.559 pitching lesser innings. Those are the kind of things that 256 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:29.960 I'd like. 257 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:34.600 To see, So thank you to all right, so I 258 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:36.559 agree with you, by the way, I mean, it's great. 259 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.519 What would happen if Dave Roberts called the team meeting 260 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.039 and say, boys, the starters are going seven innings, all right, 261 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:47.000 we're all going at minimum seven a right, minimum seven? Uh? 262 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:48.320 And that's the thing. 263 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.799 Like, and I'm with ish from this standpoint. That would 264 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.559 be awesome because I mean seven innings and then you 265 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:56.919 got a guy for the eighth and a guy for 266 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:57.240 the ninth. 267 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.120 He close it out and everybody goes home happy. 268 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:02.320 It's just changed, man like like, and they can try 269 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:04.000 and do whatever they want. Well, you gotta stay in 270 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:06.559 for three batters and you gotta do no. The game 271 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:09.080 is completely changed. There would be a rebellion. There would 272 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.799 be a rebellion. Yeah, Like if you can if you 273 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.200 see a starter in the sixth you're like, oh, he's 274 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:19.200 got his good stuff, like he's he is dealing out there. 275 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.679 Like the entire thought process behind how you work a 276 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.519 pitching staff has completely changed. And I know you're a 277 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:27.080 big fan of analytics. 278 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:28.799 Ben, So I know you are. Oh yeah, I live 279 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.120 I live by growing up. I always wanted, you know, 280 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.960 no third time through the order, God forbid third time 281 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:35.600 through the or you can't have a perfect game right 282 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.559 then when that happens, you know what it's gonna take. 283 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:40.559 It's gonna take We just ripped the Tampa Bay race. 284 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:42.159 But it's gonna take a team like that that has 285 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:45.799 no fan base and they don't care to just draft 286 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.879 a bunch of high school pitchers and develop them to 287 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:53.000 pitch laid into games and whatnot, and then eventually if 288 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.799 they win, if they succeed with that, then that will 289 00:12:55.799 --> 00:13:00.159 become the new normal instead of the outrage and the 290 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.720 the hulla balloo. The pictures are providing and really the 291 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:04.840 agents like they get provoked when they have to go 292 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:07.679 deep into the games and all that, and then also 293 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:10.879 the analytical stuff where it's like, oh, look at the numbers, 294 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:13.399 well like it used to be Jones. Maybe I'm wrong 295 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:15.440 on this but in sports you tried to test how 296 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.639 far you could push the limits, right, and greatness in 297 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:23.440 sports was overcoming that. When you're tired, when you have fatigue, yes, 298 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:27.120 not anymore now, the first sign of fatigue, you got 299 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:28.840 to come out of the game. You got to come 300 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:30.320 out of it. We don't want any fatigue. 301 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:34.000 I mean, listen, I don't want to come across as reckless, 302 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.480 but I'm thinking for the benefit of everybody here, I 303 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:40.080 think there should be potentially we let some of these 304 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.559 guys you use a specific sort of gas, if you will, 305 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.720 maybe a performance enhancer on just your arms. 306 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:48.840 Like just your arms. So you want to bring back 307 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:50.240 the nineties. 308 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:52.480 I mean, look, if it means we're gonna get guys 309 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:54.679 going into the seventh and the eighth and they're throwing 310 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.120 one hundred and eighteen miles an hour, I mean, who's 311 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:57.879 not on board with that? 312 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:00.200 As long as nobody gets hurt. I mean, I think 313 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:01.759 that's the move that we make here. If we really 314 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.120 want to bring you and hire Roger Clemens as your 315 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:04.679 pitching coach. 316 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.919 Potentially, potentially Roger Clemens will get a call at some 317 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:09.840 point or another, you. 318 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.919 Would, But as long as it's by the book, it's 319 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:14.879 all by the book. Now, it's all by the well 320 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.000 with it projected outcomes. It's all about projected out Hey as, 321 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.360 Steven La, what do you want the Dodgers to do? 322 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:25.960 Hey, guys, I'd like to see them get Jack Flaherty, 323 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:30.559 bring back an La guy. And hey, Ben, this is 324 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:35.480 for you, being a baseball guy and a Dodger supporter fan. 325 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.120 I got something for you too, Jonas. But hey, Ben, 326 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:44.080 nine years, what's the same common denominator? Dave Roberts nine 327 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:48.080 years Dave Roberts. Listen, how many times has Dave Roberts 328 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.679 made the bad pitching decision because he doesn't have a 329 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:52.759 feel when to keep the guy in or when take 330 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.679 him out. Guess what, Ben, that's Dodger fans, and I'm 331 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:59.399 speaking for about eighty percent of us. We're going to 332 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:03.039 have a parade either way, because that's the Dodgers win 333 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:04.000 the World Series. 334 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:05.960 We're going to have a parade down ster Garol. 335 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.120 But if we don't make it, they have to fire 336 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:10.000 Dave Roberts. 337 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:18.679 All right, that is there's the solution from Steven La. 338 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.919 What would you should do at the deadline? I'd like 339 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:26.879 them to fire Dave Roberts. You know what, I really 340 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:28.840 liked him in that spot, jo Miss. I really liked 341 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.840 him as Dave Robert. I'm convinced Dave Roberts will be 342 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.799 the Dodger manager the rest of my life. I'm convinced 343 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:37.399 that the last couple of years, the way things have 344 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:39.679 gone in the playoffs, and he's he's still there, and 345 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:41.840 I really think it's just a product of him, just 346 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:44.360 that this is what the the this is the the 347 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:47.000 talking points of you, all right, I mean, strategy, He's 348 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.279 it's like remember that rant Joe Madden had the old 349 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:53.159 Angel manager when he talked about middle managers. 350 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.080 Is that's pretty much what you're doing at this point, 351 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:58.360 a lot of managing. I mean, to get that vibe. 352 00:15:58.360 --> 00:15:59.000 That's where it is. 353 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.240 I'm a Dave Robert guy through and three. You know me, 354 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:03.480 so I support him. You know, I think I think 355 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:06.080 Dave Roberts should have his job for lifetime. I think 356 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:07.519 he's what he's done with this team. 357 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:10.960 Everyone's the same thing goes on in New York with 358 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.200 the Yankee fans complained about Aaron Boone. It's like the same. 359 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.200 It's obviously a different coast and all that, but it's 360 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:17.279 the same scenarios. 361 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:19.600 Like, by the way, I saw somebody like kick around 362 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:23.000 this idea, like with the Yankees move on from Aaron 363 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:29.159 Boone in season Jonas in California. Yeah, I'll take no please, 364 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:33.080 that'll be That'll be no from from Aaron Boone being 365 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.480 moved on from by the by the New York Games. 366 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:38.600 The counter argument is always, well, it works during the 367 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.159 regular season, so you get in the playoffs and it's 368 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:44.120 a crap shoot in the playoffs, and that's that's always 369 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.960 their counter argument is like, well, yeah, the analytics, it 370 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:50.320 does work in the but it's a small sample size 371 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.919 in the playoffs, and as our guy just mentioned, you 372 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:55.679 do have to kind of have a little feel for 373 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.480 the game on when to take pictures in and out 374 00:16:57.600 --> 00:16:59.360 and who to trust and who not to trust and 375 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.879 all that, and it's just an information overloads situ waits 376 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.640 as our boss. Don you say it's paralysis by analysis, 377 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:07.400 my man? Yeah. 378 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.000 By the way, we have more more feedback here. Roland 379 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.559 is in east Vale listening here on a five seventy 380 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:16.559 l A Sports. 381 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.079 Rolland what's happening. What do you want the Dodgers to do? 382 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:24.279 Here's the deal, guys, Dave Roberts needs to trust this pictures. 383 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.160 They need to go deep because let me tell you 384 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.880 something worry and you know, going into August and these 385 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.279 pictures been pitchering for three months. You know, I could 386 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:34.480 understand who'lls april me? You know, you do, you watch 387 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.039 your pitches, But come on, guys, if you can't trust 388 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:39.160 your pictures to go seven, a lot of these games 389 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:41.640 we've lost because of that. You know, he pulls them 390 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:43.799 out and here comes our bullpen and you know, and 391 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:47.359 they're they're tired. Man. We need these pitchers need to 392 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:50.200 pitch seven, you know, going through seven or eight if 393 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:51.759 you have to. But I mean, come on, you know 394 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:55.119 that that pitch count. I think it's kind of ridiculous. 395 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:59.039 These these pictures, you know, they can go that extra yard, 396 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:04.559 you know, and needs to trust just it. 397 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:03.279 You know what. 398 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:06.240 It's kind of like back remember when the Brewers traded 399 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:08.720 for C. C. Sabbathi at the deadline and they brought 400 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:10.039 him in and it was like, well, you know, he's 401 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:11.920