Speaker 1: Rogan to Rodney AM five to seventy LA Sports. You
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Speaker 1: guys here on a Tuesday, it is MLB trade deadline day.
Speaker 1: And if you're wondering when is the big blockbuster move
Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles Dodgers. When are the Dodgers gonna
Speaker 1: make the move? Don't worry you are not alone. We're
Speaker 1: also wondering the same thing as well too, because Ben Mallor,
Speaker 1: this has been a pretty slow MLB trade deadline.
Speaker 2: Now, well we just we did have trade. The Mets
Speaker 2: have acquired the great Paul Blackburn, hey by athletics. That's big.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that trade the Royals made earlier. For who
Speaker 2: they get again, Paul DeJong so and in the White
Speaker 2: Sox are playing the Royals, so he just gets to
Speaker 2: go across the stadium there. The Dodgers at this point
Speaker 2: are negotiating with crickets. I believe that they have not
Speaker 2: there's nothing here, but they still have a little less
Speaker 2: than two hours to go right right when we get
Speaker 2: done and pass the baton to the great Petrols and
Speaker 2: Money Show, they will end, music stop, musical chairs end,
Speaker 2: and so there's still time. There's a bunch of relief
Speaker 2: pictures I've never heard of who have, Like the Marlins
Speaker 2: are unloading their entire bullpen, the trading relief pitchers here, there,
Speaker 2: and everywhere. The athletics, like the real bottom feeding teams
Speaker 2: are trading away pitchers right and left. But I have
Speaker 2: not seen anyone with name brand value that has been
Speaker 2: traded today. Yes I missed it.
Speaker 3: I remember the great JC Charguas, who was in the
Speaker 3: Dodger bullpen some years ago, traded Marlins the Mariners.
Speaker 2: Come on, oh there you go. How did I forget
Speaker 2: that one? I can't believe. Yeah, all right, that's an example.
Speaker 2: That's what we're getting today. So you know, I met Rosario.
Speaker 2: That was the deal that was done last night. I'd
Speaker 2: also like to point this out. Do the Rays have
Speaker 2: enough people at this point to feel the team like
Speaker 2: it feels like the Tampa Bay Raves have traded away
Speaker 2: everybody within the vicinity any of their organization, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the plan is there. And didn't they
Speaker 2: just announce they're building a new stadium they did so
Speaker 2: your years down the line, Well, they're building a stadium,
Speaker 2: and people in baseball. I've talked to people around over
Speaker 2: the years. They love the Rays because they can do
Speaker 2: whatever they want. It's like Frankenstein's laboratory. They can trade
Speaker 2: any player. They don't because they have no fan base,
Speaker 2: so they're not they're not beholden to the fan base.
Speaker 2: Like who's gonna call up and complain because you trade
Speaker 2: it away. It's like when you're a Raised fan. It's
Speaker 2: like being a fan of a college football team because
Speaker 2: the players are there for four years and then they
Speaker 2: go to somewhere else and then you bring in new players,
Speaker 2: new recruits and all that stuff. I was pretty it's
Speaker 2: the same thing and like four years and you're out.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about this, when's the last time
Speaker 1: you saw anybody wearing a Raise jersey?
Speaker 2: Like, like, like when the last time I saw I
Speaker 2: can tell you who. I was a guy named rich
Speaker 2: Area who worked in the early days at Fox Sports
Speaker 2: Radio and the Olderson. I know that because he worked
Speaker 2: on the Rays radio broadcast. And I actually I told
Speaker 2: the story why about he. I went out and saw
Speaker 2: him when they came in to play the Angels in Anaheim,
Speaker 2: and he gave me like this bag full of Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay raysed merchandise, which I still have if you want it.
Speaker 2: I haven't opened it. But that's the only guy that
Speaker 2: I ever saw where race though, like years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like I can't recall ever seeing somebody
Speaker 1: walk around in like an Evan Longoria jersey, Like I
Speaker 1: just don't recall it happening like ever in my entire life.
Speaker 1: I can remember a buddy of mine who's a diehard
Speaker 1: Pirates fan, and I was in Pittsburgh and you know,
Speaker 1: this was at the point where they were trading like
Speaker 1: Nate mclouth like they were like they were just unloading
Speaker 1: every bicle year. Yeah, And so I remember I met
Speaker 1: this this sporting good store in Pittsburgh and I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know they got a bunch of Pirates jerseys here.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to bring some back? So I
Speaker 1: start reading off the names of like all the available
Speaker 1: players that had jerseys there at this store, and he's.
Speaker 2: Like, no, not him, not him.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, what about Zach Duke And he says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, I actually think he's gonna be with
Speaker 1: them for a while, maybe a year. Got the jersey
Speaker 1: and he was gone. So it is unfortunate to see
Speaker 1: teams like the Pirates, the Raised all the Pirates feel
Speaker 1: a little bit better about things with some of the
Speaker 1: talent they have that are making deals here. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: you know the Dodgers, Tommy Edmund, Michael Kopek, Med Rosario.
Speaker 1: That's the moves that we've got thus far for the
Speaker 1: beloved Dodgers at the trade deadline, when everybody's looking around,
Speaker 1: going are they going to make a move? We need
Speaker 1: some help. Even Dave Roberts feels like he's saying, you know,
Speaker 1: we could use some help here.
Speaker 2: Well, another trade that came down. How about this ex
Speaker 2: Dodger Caleb Ferguson, who I think has an era north
Speaker 2: of five for the Yankees this year. No longer with
Speaker 2: the Yankees. He has been traded to the cheating a
Speaker 2: stros Right, So there you go, Caleb Ferguson going to Houston.
Speaker 2: Does that get you excited? Not really.
Speaker 1: I do wonder though, if some of these guys are
Speaker 1: happy to be traded away from the Yankees because they
Speaker 1: can finally grow out facial hair, Like, do they look
Speaker 1: at it and go, oh, thank god.
Speaker 2: Beer, you get all this shoveled and all that, and
Speaker 2: the Yankees trying to trade ex Dodger Alex Rdugo supposedly,
Speaker 2: who wouldn't want a two thirty eight hitting Alex Rdugo.
Speaker 2: Come on, you can get him right now if you
Speaker 2: want him, he's available, bring him back to the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: Come on, that was the price. Do you believe the
Speaker 2: Red Sox? What suckers? The Red Sox are? The Dodgers
Speaker 2: trade That was the prize of the trade to get
Speaker 2: Mookie Betts. Yeah, they traded Alex Rdugo essentially in a
Speaker 2: couple of other you know. Second, that's got to be
Speaker 2: in the conversation for one of the worst deals of
Speaker 2: all time. Like Mookie Betts, say, first ballot Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame in the modern era. They didn't want the Red Sox.
Speaker 2: They want to pay him like the Red Sox.
Speaker 1: Who do you think they have as much money as
Speaker 1: the Dodgers or the Yankees. They didn't want to pay him. Also,
Speaker 1: refresh my memory. Didn't Mookie want to stay in Boston?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They wouldn't meet his contract demands. Yeah, yeah, yes, he
Speaker 3: did want to stay.
Speaker 1: I would love I would love to know what those
Speaker 1: contract demands were. That they at the time said as
Speaker 1: the Red Sox to your point bends you know what,
Speaker 1: They're really struggling to draw attendance there, Like it's really
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have a lot of money to
Speaker 1: throw around. I would love to know what what was
Speaker 1: deemed to be too high of a price for Mookie Bets,
Speaker 1: who's turned out to be a superstar on another level
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers, Like, I do wonder what that price.
Speaker 2: Has has Dodger Stadium become. It's not quite like you
Speaker 2: go to Boston. You know, you go to the different city,
Speaker 2: you look at things to do in different cities. You
Speaker 2: go to Boston in like Finway Parks like number four
Speaker 2: on the list of things to see yea, yeah, because
Speaker 2: you know he's a freedom trail and all that, and
Speaker 2: eventually get the Finway. But you come to LA. It's
Speaker 2: like Dodger Stadium's is it the third oldest ballpark in baseball?
Speaker 2: I think so. I think Fenway and Wrigley are the
Speaker 2: only ones older.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But when people come to Las, you have to
Speaker 2: go to a Dodger game, right, because it's all the
Speaker 2: entertainment stuff and all that.
Speaker 1: I mean, would you rather go to Dodgers, especially the
Speaker 1: way they've done it. They've built up the outfield like
Speaker 1: they've made it's amazing. I mean, listen, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know a Lesion Park and like you know some
Speaker 1: of the you know, the surrounding areas they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit dicey, but depending on who you are.
Speaker 1: But like, if you go to a Dodger game, it's
Speaker 1: no longer you're just sitting there and watching a game.
Speaker 1: They've they've built up the beyond the outfield like it's
Speaker 1: it's a really really nice place to go and hang
Speaker 1: out if you're not if you don't have the ability
Speaker 1: like a Fenway or a Wrigley that's got bars and
Speaker 1: restaurants like right across the street within walking distance. They've
Speaker 1: done a great job. Would you rather go to Dodger
Speaker 1: Stadium or the Santa Monica Pear Like come on, man, now,
Speaker 1: it's like get out to the game.
Speaker 2: All right. As an added boy, I mean even going
Speaker 2: to Dodger Stadium, like there's a bunch of stuff around
Speaker 2: there if you're into like the entertainment stuff. And uh yeah,
Speaker 2: my favorite fun fact about Dodgers dame. I know if
Speaker 2: you know this Jonas. But yeah, the great Will Ferrell
Speaker 2: basketball movie back in the day where I was, Uh,
Speaker 2: what was the name of that movie? I forget the
Speaker 2: name of it. The oh, I know remember movie. They
Speaker 2: filmed it at the La Fire Academy Gym. There's like
Speaker 2: a gymnasum right near Dodger Stadium, like near Lot thirteen
Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium. They filmed the basketball in that at
Speaker 2: little gymnasium, Random Fun Factory. Every time I drive by there,
Speaker 2: I think, oh, they filmed that movie there right this
Speaker 2: old school gymnasium.
Speaker 3: It was It was kind of cool, semi proram that movie.
Speaker 2: That was pretty good movie.
Speaker 1: Right were they the Tropics? Is that the name of
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, I believe they were there. That was
Speaker 1: there the team. That sounds right to me. I just
Speaker 1: thought of that as Dodger Stadium. It's just popped he
Speaker 1: there's a lot to do there. But that's why, you know,
Speaker 1: we encourage everybody to get out there. And if you
Speaker 1: go out there, you're gonna get excited to see imed Rosario.
Speaker 2: Who's gonna be U. The big addition though about Tommy
Speaker 2: had been in center field. Come on, kids, Tommy had
Speaker 2: been by the way. Let me just tell you this.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for round two Vassa versus mallor an
Speaker 1: hour from now. I cannot wait to see how that goes.
Speaker 2: I'm on the right side of history, of essays, on
Speaker 2: the wrong side of history. And he went to the
Speaker 2: dark side. I I I'm going to bring up I know,
Speaker 2: and I'll bring this all way for when he's on
Speaker 2: because I know the moment he went to the dark side.
Speaker 2: I know when that happens. We used to be friends.
Speaker 2: I've known for many, many years. But something he changed,
Speaker 2: something happened, and I think I know the moment where
Speaker 2: he went to the wrong eye to the road. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know what happened. I do.
Speaker 1: Boy, well, listen, we don't know what the Dodgers are
Speaker 1: going to do, if anything, with just a couple of
Speaker 1: hours left in the lot of.
Speaker 2: Trades, though, Jonas, there happening fast and furious, a lot
Speaker 2: of trade, a lot, a lot of movement out there.
Speaker 2: Dodger fan, let me tell you something. The Dodger fan
Speaker 2: is numb. They're like they just they don't care anyway.
Speaker 2: They're like the Dodgers gonna be in the playoffs and
Speaker 2: they don't see them all worked up. Uh, the the
Speaker 2: old school Dodger fan back in the old days when
Speaker 2: the Dodgers they never made the playoffs or rarely made
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Right, there was that period of time when
Speaker 2: Frank McCord owned the team and it was the Heat
Speaker 2: Saw Troy era of Dodger baseball. Yeah, not the greatest era,
Speaker 2: you know, not the greatest era and all that, but
Speaker 2: the people are very upset when they do anything. But
Speaker 2: now it's like, well, they'll be in the playoffs, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's like okay, they're just kind of numb to.
Speaker 2: It's like, we'll see what happens in the playoffs coming up.
Speaker 2: That's the vibe I'm getting. Am I getting the wrong Vibeine?
Speaker 2: I think you are. Listen, we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the strategy for the Dodgers is let's
Speaker 1: get healthy, Like, let's just get healthy. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: our best path. This is the roster and the team
Speaker 1: that we felt like we were gonna have on the
Speaker 1: field all year. We've had bad luck with injuries. Let's
Speaker 1: just get healthy and then and then those will be
Speaker 1: our additions, our de facto trade deadline editions. As we
Speaker 1: get ready for the postseason run.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the vibe I get. But there are
Speaker 1: other people that have a different vibe. Then there are
Speaker 1: people listening here on the blow torch AM five seventy
Speaker 1: like Ish in Riverside, Ish, what's happening?
Speaker 2: What do you want? Man? What's your wishless for the
Speaker 2: Dodgers at the deadline.
Speaker 5: Hey, fellow, it's good to be with you guys. Man,
Speaker 5: I'm going to join you guys now the gentlemen are
Speaker 5: on vacation. But yeah, as far as some of the
Speaker 5: trades and things like that, Honestly, as I was, you know,
Speaker 5: talking with I think it's Kevin, I'd say, just hold tap.
Speaker 5: You know, we really do have like the trades, I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: the pieces, and honestly, in the off season, how much
Speaker 5: bigger can you get, like unless you bring in somebody
Speaker 5: like Aaron Judge, which is never gonna happen, right, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of sitting in that camp. We're like, Okay,
Speaker 5: there's really not much that we can do except for
Speaker 5: I really do think some of the adjustments that we
Speaker 5: got to make. Scrap the whole scrap, scrap the pitching plan,
Speaker 5: scrap all that stuff. You know, I'm not saying start
Speaker 5: from scraps, but just you know, uh, make some major
Speaker 5: adjustments that way. We need guys that are going to distance,
Speaker 5: you know, more than five innings. We need the bullpen
Speaker 5: to kind of get back to where they're the best
Speaker 5: pitching lesser innings. Those are the kind of things that
Speaker 5: I'd like.
Speaker 2: To see, So thank you to all right, so I
Speaker 2: agree with you, by the way, I mean, it's great.
Speaker 2: What would happen if Dave Roberts called the team meeting
Speaker 2: and say, boys, the starters are going seven innings, all right,
Speaker 2: we're all going at minimum seven a right, minimum seven? Uh?
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Like, and I'm with ish from this standpoint. That would
Speaker 1: be awesome because I mean seven innings and then you
Speaker 1: got a guy for the eighth and a guy for
Speaker 1: the ninth.
Speaker 2: He close it out and everybody goes home happy.
Speaker 1: It's just changed, man like like, and they can try
Speaker 1: and do whatever they want. Well, you gotta stay in
Speaker 1: for three batters and you gotta do no. The game
Speaker 1: is completely changed. There would be a rebellion. There would
Speaker 1: be a rebellion. Yeah, Like if you can if you
Speaker 1: see a starter in the sixth you're like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: got his good stuff, like he's he is dealing out there.
Speaker 1: Like the entire thought process behind how you work a
Speaker 1: pitching staff has completely changed. And I know you're a
Speaker 1: big fan of analytics.
Speaker 2: Ben, So I know you are. Oh yeah, I live
Speaker 2: I live by growing up. I always wanted, you know,
Speaker 2: no third time through the order, God forbid third time
Speaker 2: through the or you can't have a perfect game right
Speaker 2: then when that happens, you know what it's gonna take.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take We just ripped the Tampa Bay race.
Speaker 2: But it's gonna take a team like that that has
Speaker 2: no fan base and they don't care to just draft
Speaker 2: a bunch of high school pitchers and develop them to
Speaker 2: pitch laid into games and whatnot, and then eventually if
Speaker 2: they win, if they succeed with that, then that will
Speaker 2: become the new normal instead of the outrage and the
Speaker 2: the hulla balloo. The pictures are providing and really the
Speaker 2: agents like they get provoked when they have to go
Speaker 2: deep into the games and all that, and then also
Speaker 2: the analytical stuff where it's like, oh, look at the numbers,
Speaker 2: well like it used to be Jones. Maybe I'm wrong
Speaker 2: on this but in sports you tried to test how
Speaker 2: far you could push the limits, right, and greatness in
Speaker 2: sports was overcoming that. When you're tired, when you have fatigue, yes,
Speaker 2: not anymore now, the first sign of fatigue, you got
Speaker 2: to come out of the game. You got to come
Speaker 2: out of it. We don't want any fatigue.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I don't want to come across as reckless,
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking for the benefit of everybody here, I
Speaker 1: think there should be potentially we let some of these
Speaker 1: guys you use a specific sort of gas, if you will,
Speaker 1: maybe a performance enhancer on just your arms.
Speaker 2: Like just your arms. So you want to bring back
Speaker 2: the nineties.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if it means we're gonna get guys
Speaker 1: going into the seventh and the eighth and they're throwing
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen miles an hour, I mean, who's
Speaker 1: not on board with that?
Speaker 2: As long as nobody gets hurt. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: that's the move that we make here. If we really
Speaker 2: want to bring you and hire Roger Clemens as your
Speaker 2: pitching coach.
Speaker 1: Potentially, potentially Roger Clemens will get a call at some
Speaker 1: point or another, you.
Speaker 2: Would, But as long as it's by the book, it's
Speaker 2: all by the book. Now, it's all by the well
Speaker 2: with it projected outcomes. It's all about projected out Hey as,
Speaker 2: Steven La, what do you want the Dodgers to do?
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, I'd like to see them get Jack Flaherty,
Speaker 6: bring back an La guy. And hey, Ben, this is
Speaker 6: for you, being a baseball guy and a Dodger supporter fan.
Speaker 6: I got something for you too, Jonas. But hey, Ben,
Speaker 6: nine years, what's the same common denominator? Dave Roberts nine
Speaker 6: years Dave Roberts. Listen, how many times has Dave Roberts
Speaker 6: made the bad pitching decision because he doesn't have a
Speaker 6: feel when to keep the guy in or when take
Speaker 6: him out. Guess what, Ben, that's Dodger fans, and I'm
Speaker 6: speaking for about eighty percent of us. We're going to
Speaker 6: have a parade either way, because that's the Dodgers win
Speaker 6: the World Series.
Speaker 7: We're going to have a parade down ster Garol.
Speaker 6: But if we don't make it, they have to fire
Speaker 6: Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1: All right, that is there's the solution from Steven La.
Speaker 1: What would you should do at the deadline? I'd like
Speaker 1: them to fire Dave Roberts. You know what, I really
Speaker 1: liked him in that spot, jo Miss. I really liked
Speaker 1: him as Dave Robert. I'm convinced Dave Roberts will be
Speaker 1: the Dodger manager the rest of my life. I'm convinced
Speaker 1: that the last couple of years, the way things have
Speaker 1: gone in the playoffs, and he's he's still there, and
Speaker 1: I really think it's just a product of him, just
Speaker 1: that this is what the the this is the the
Speaker 1: talking points of you, all right, I mean, strategy, He's
Speaker 1: it's like remember that rant Joe Madden had the old
Speaker 1: Angel manager when he talked about middle managers.
Speaker 2: Is that's pretty much what you're doing at this point,
Speaker 2: a lot of managing. I mean, to get that vibe.
Speaker 2: That's where it is.
Speaker 1: I'm a Dave Robert guy through and three. You know me,
Speaker 1: so I support him. You know, I think I think
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts should have his job for lifetime. I think
Speaker 1: he's what he's done with this team.
Speaker 2: Everyone's the same thing goes on in New York with
Speaker 2: the Yankee fans complained about Aaron Boone. It's like the same.
Speaker 2: It's obviously a different coast and all that, but it's
Speaker 2: the same scenarios.
Speaker 1: Like, by the way, I saw somebody like kick around
Speaker 1: this idea, like with the Yankees move on from Aaron
Speaker 1: Boone in season Jonas in California. Yeah, I'll take no please,
Speaker 1: that'll be That'll be no from from Aaron Boone being
Speaker 1: moved on from by the by the New York Games.
Speaker 2: The counter argument is always, well, it works during the
Speaker 2: regular season, so you get in the playoffs and it's
Speaker 2: a crap shoot in the playoffs, and that's that's always
Speaker 2: their counter argument is like, well, yeah, the analytics, it
Speaker 2: does work in the but it's a small sample size
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and as our guy just mentioned, you
Speaker 2: do have to kind of have a little feel for
Speaker 2: the game on when to take pictures in and out
Speaker 2: and who to trust and who not to trust and
Speaker 2: all that, and it's just an information overloads situ waits
Speaker 2: as our boss. Don you say it's paralysis by analysis,
Speaker 2: my man? Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, we have more more feedback here. Roland
Speaker 1: is in east Vale listening here on a five seventy
Speaker 1: l A Sports.
Speaker 2: Rolland what's happening. What do you want the Dodgers to do?
Speaker 7: Here's the deal, guys, Dave Roberts needs to trust this pictures.
Speaker 7: They need to go deep because let me tell you
Speaker 7: something worry and you know, going into August and these
Speaker 7: pictures been pitchering for three months. You know, I could
Speaker 7: understand who'lls april me? You know, you do, you watch
Speaker 7: your pitches, But come on, guys, if you can't trust
Speaker 7: your pictures to go seven, a lot of these games
Speaker 7: we've lost because of that. You know, he pulls them
Speaker 7: out and here comes our bullpen and you know, and
Speaker 7: they're they're tired. Man. We need these pitchers need to
Speaker 7: pitch seven, you know, going through seven or eight if
Speaker 7: you have to. But I mean, come on, you know
Speaker 7: that that pitch count. I think it's kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 7: These these pictures, you know, they can go that extra yard,
Speaker 7: you know, and needs to trust just it.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like back remember when the Brewers traded
Speaker 1: for C. C. Sabbathi at the deadline and they brought
Speaker 1: him in and it was like, well, you know, he's
Speaker 1: probably not going to resign there because he's looking for
Speaker 1: a big money deal in they're a small market team.
Speaker 1: So the Brewers are like, oh yeah, no, we totally
Speaker 1: get it, and they threw him out there to throw
Speaker 1: like one hundred and forty pitches a game.
Speaker 3: Not our problem.
Speaker 2: You get beer next year, as many as much cheese
Speaker 2: as you want, keys, curs as you want. Just keep pitching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So maybe they just they maybe they do make
Speaker 1: a move for Garrett Crochet and just have him start
Speaker 1: like games one and two in the postseason and just
Speaker 1: say screw it and he's he's dealing.
Speaker 2: I got a couple thoughts on with that, guys. So
Speaker 2: the first thing is, I agree that the pitch count
Speaker 2: is like snake oil, right, because it's just an People
Speaker 2: love round numbers. Human beings love round numbers. Like if
Speaker 2: you throw ninety nine pitches, you're okay. But one hundred
Speaker 2: pitches then it's a problem. Right then your arm's going
Speaker 2: to fall off. Well, why not one hundred and twenty?
Speaker 2: Why not one hundred and thirty? Why is it one hundred?
Speaker 2: Why is that? Yes, they decided years ago one hundred
Speaker 2: pitches is an amazing number of pitches. Even though you
Speaker 2: hear stories about Fernando Valenzuela and Mexico, even with the
Speaker 2: Dodgers with a sword in the early days, throwing like
Speaker 2: two hundred plus pitches in a game. And I was
Speaker 2: like nothing. They didn't even count pitches back of this.
Speaker 2: But and the other thing, and this is the thing
Speaker 2: that really just is a pet peeve of mine. And
Speaker 2: it's not just the Dodgers. A lot of teams do this.
Speaker 2: They say, Okay, we're saving him for the playoffs, he's
Speaker 2: gonna be better, and then they go out and peel
Speaker 2: all over them. They invite the vomit comm in the playoffs. Jonas,
Speaker 2: But you told me in May and June and July
Speaker 2: that you cut down on the innings and the pitches,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be fine. And then they go out there
Speaker 2: and they still stink in the playoffs. So why not
Speaker 2: just pitch them during the regular season. Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's only one way to wrap this up.
Speaker 1: And it's on the iHeartRadio app and it's Mitch in
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Mitch, quickly, what do you want the Dodgers
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 8: Jonas? Ben?
Speaker 6: How you guys doing?
Speaker 8: Ben? Also, so you're talking about the raised jerseys, are
Speaker 8: those devil raised jerseys that might be worth something?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 8: Definitely should have gone back tonight.
Speaker 5: I think they gotta get it.
Speaker 6: I'm tired of.
Speaker 8: Getting these utility guys didn't you get a big hit
Speaker 8: it whether it's a shortstop or Nowfield. I mean, I
Speaker 8: wouldn't I wouldn't mind Cody back the said is the
Speaker 8: guy I think about?
Speaker 6: And what about the guy Oakland? You know, the.
Speaker 8: Dismantling team before I get the secramount of Butler, he'd
Speaker 8: be great.
Speaker 6: And Nowfield, what are you thinking them?
Speaker 8: Thanks taking my coll No, we have a.
Speaker 2: Trade listen, big time off that guy. The Pod squad
Speaker 2: are going for it the Pod. Now the Dodgers have
Speaker 2: to do something because the Padres. There's an hour and
Speaker 2: a half to go a little less than that before
Speaker 2: the music stops on the trade deadline. But the Podres
Speaker 2: who the Dodgers play tonight? You can hear it right
Speaker 2: here on AM five seventy. The Padres have acquired the
Speaker 2: Marlins closer Tanner. Scott uh is going to San Diego.
Speaker 2: And if the dog this it's gonna it's about to
Speaker 2: get real. If the Dodgers lose these next two games
Speaker 2: of the Padres, the Padres will have the tiebreaker head
Speaker 2: to head and and I think whether it be three
Speaker 2: and a half out or something like that in the standings.
Speaker 2: So these are very important games in the next couple
Speaker 2: of nights with the Padres, and the Padres go out
Speaker 2: and get a big arm for their bullpen.
Speaker 1: And that was and that was a target for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: I believe David Vasse reported on that that that was
Speaker 1: a target for the Dodgers. Now he is gone and
Speaker 1: he goes to San Diego, and so I just wonder
Speaker 1: if maybe this is karma for the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, David Vassa was kind of, you know, like
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit too friendly while in San Diego
Speaker 1: getting ready for the series coming up later on Blake Snell,
Speaker 1: former Padres, you pointed out, now a giant, but maybe
Speaker 1: there is some residual effect there from from you know,
Speaker 1: Dave vass A kind of hanging out and now that
Speaker 1: Tanner Scott is a Padre.
Speaker 2: If best say was out, he's out and he drove
Speaker 2: up the ocean side or something like that. And this
Speaker 2: all might be related pending medical review, Jonas it says,
Speaker 2: pending medical review. Hey when that, what kind of doctor
Speaker 2: are they going to find if they want him on
Speaker 2: the team. Right, Let's look online. Let's see here, it's
Speaker 2: got a Craigslist. My guy doc Mike, who calls the
Speaker 2: overnight show doc Mike from Chicago. Well, listen, it is
Speaker 2: a busy trade deadline.
Speaker 1: Well it's starting to get busy at least, you know,
Speaker 1: not a lot of big names except Tanner Scott.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest one. Maybe they're a hard old baseball guy.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 2: This is a big day because a lot of the
Speaker 2: secondary guys are being traded, a lot of the secondary guys.
Speaker 2: I also love when the insider guys are like, oh no,
Speaker 2: you know, Marlin's got a hole for Tanner Scott, right
Speaker 2: because and it's a bunch of guys you've never heard of. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, I've never heard of
Speaker 2: that guy. It's it's a hall.
Speaker 1: It's like some of the like it's okay to just say, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't know who these guys are either, Like can
Speaker 1: we just somebody like have some brutal honesty about this
Speaker 1: whole thing. But nonetheless, that's the latest big move in
Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball trade deadline sweepstakes. Tanner Scott goes
Speaker 1: from Miami to San Diego, and as you pointed out, Ben,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers will have to see him one of their
Speaker 1: trade targets. Now he is going to be pitching for
Speaker 1: the Pods.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good move though, from like lifestyle you
Speaker 2: live in Miami. Yeah, if you like the warm weather,
Speaker 2: great San Diego not bad either, Right, So you're in.
Speaker 2: You're in good shape. It's not like going from the
Speaker 2: Marlins and being traded to like the Cleveland Guardians. Oh,
Speaker 2: that would be a tough one. Yeah, that would be difficult.
Speaker 2: That would be hard to handle, right with you.
Speaker 1: So we've got more on the trade deadline moving and shaking.
Speaker 1: What does this do for the playoff chase, for the
Speaker 1: chase for the NL West with the latest big move
Speaker 1: for the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 2: We'll have more on that coming up next year on
Speaker 2: AM five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 1: AM five seventy LA Sports Rogan and Rodney, but not
Speaker 1: Rogan and Rodney, Ben Mallard, Jonas Knox in for the
Speaker 1: guys here coming up in about ten minutes from now.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like the good old days of
Speaker 1: sports radio and sports radio feuds. We've got one for
Speaker 1: that just took place not long ago. That'll be yours
Speaker 1: here in about ten minutes from now. But Ben, I
Speaker 1: did you know, as we're looking around waiting for the
Speaker 1: big deal to get done for the Dodgers at the
Speaker 1: trade deadline. Dave Assay is going to join us top
Speaker 1: of next hour as well too. I was thinking about this.
Speaker 1: I think I finally figured out why you appreciate a
Speaker 1: guy like Less Snead because the FM picks approach sounds
Speaker 1: like it's right up your alley, Like that's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything that you're about. Yeah, No, I have long I
Speaker 1: learned this growing up as a Clipper fan. For years
Speaker 1: they would have lottery picks, and the old play by
Speaker 1: play guy Ralph Lawler told me, every year, this is
Speaker 1: the year they they draft like the Big Tens all
Speaker 1: time leading score, the Big East, all time leading scorer, great.
Speaker 2: Player, and this is going to be the year everything's
Speaker 2: gonna come together. And those guys, some of them were good,
Speaker 2: a lot of them were not. And I had this
Speaker 2: this point, I had this epiphany, right, this come to
Speaker 2: g this moment where I realized it's all a fraud, Right,
Speaker 2: It's all a fraud, and especially in baseball, because the
Speaker 2: minor league system. Every year, this is gonna blow you away, Jonas.
Speaker 2: Every year they come out with a new ranking of
Speaker 2: the top one hundred minor league players, and you know,
Speaker 2: every in the offseason they come out with it, and
Speaker 2: it's a renewable resource. It would be like if you're
Speaker 2: a farmer in Iowa or in the middle of California
Speaker 2: and you love your crop and you you think it's
Speaker 2: the greatest crop in the world, and then you don't
Speaker 2: want to get rid of it. No, there's you can
Speaker 2: grow a new crop. There's there's going to be you
Speaker 2: can plow the field and you can put something there
Speaker 2: that is new. So the whole point of a minor
Speaker 2: league system is to enhance the major league roster. Right now,
Speaker 2: you don't trade everybody, but you should improve and especially
Speaker 2: like the teams that are that are in it. And
Speaker 2: I said this on the Overna Show last night, Jonas,
Speaker 2: Like there's right now there's about four or five teams.
Speaker 2: And if you were to remember the old thing, we
Speaker 2: should with tiger woods. Oh yeah, tiger woods of the field,
Speaker 2: like going to the Masters. You take tiger of the field.
Speaker 2: And if you gave me the Dodgers, the Phillies, the Orioles,
Speaker 2: I'd throw the Yankees in there. And I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: put the Cleveland Gardens. Just those. Let's just do those
Speaker 2: four for now and you can have everyone else in baseball,
Speaker 2: but if you're those four teams, don't you have to
Speaker 2: go for it? You know what I'm saying, don't you
Speaker 2: have If you're the top four, you gotta go for it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now I do want to Just you know, a little sidebar.
Speaker 1: Is the reason you're not putting the Guardians in there
Speaker 1: is because of the name change?
Speaker 2: Is that why that is? Well? A team named after
Speaker 2: a Bridge, I can't get excited about a team named Afterridge.
Speaker 2: I'd much rather have a team after named after socks.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the originally were people in the
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds. Now let's call them the white Socks of
Speaker 2: the rest. But Bridge the.
Speaker 1: Guardian way and and and don't judge me if I
Speaker 1: still watch Major League Okay, I've done nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm baseball person.
Speaker 1: No, I'm with you, and I think there is a
Speaker 1: separate I just I wonder if and when Dave Roberts
Speaker 1: made the point like yeah, you know, we're you know,
Speaker 1: we got to do something, But it feels like all
Speaker 1: the other moves have already taken place, Like I wonder
Speaker 1: how frustrated Dave Roberts is with things which may which
Speaker 1: might be telling over his confidence level at how healthy
Speaker 1: this team actually can be. If you're waiting on health,
Speaker 1: maybe that is the wrong approach.
Speaker 2: Well, Dave Roberts quote to me was great because he
Speaker 2: guaranteed if the Dodgers did anything, he would be happy. Right,
Speaker 2: He's like, well, we need to do something. He didn't
Speaker 2: say a big name or anything like that. The quote
Speaker 2: that he gave was brilliant because he's like, there's something.
Speaker 2: He was intentionally vague. Yes, right, because that's the talking
Speaker 2: points and all that soul. It's like, hey, and there
Speaker 2: is a world. I'm sure you know. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: essay and he'll probably tell us that Tommy Edmonds going
Speaker 2: to about seven hundred in the in the NLCS this year,
Speaker 2: and Rosario is gonna, you know, hit five home runs
Speaker 2: in the wild Card round if they have to be
Speaker 2: in that, which they won't, but uh, you know we'll
Speaker 2: get all that, you know, so uh and that does
Speaker 2: happen in baseball. The single greatest baseball performance I have
Speaker 2: ever witnessed was Eddie Rosario of the Atlanta Braves in
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one Oh God and LCS. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: guy was Tony Gwyn, Pete Rose Barry Bonds. It was insane.
Speaker 2: They couldn't get him out. Eddie Rosario, Who the heck's
Speaker 2: Eddie Rosario?
Speaker 1: It was like, who was the dude that hit? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was Game five at Dodger Stadium for
Speaker 1: the Mets. He hit that home run off Granky. He
Speaker 1: was just nobody could stop him that postseason Oh the
Speaker 1: second Basement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, that David Wright.
Speaker 3: No, I know you were talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the guy got a big contract is yeah,
Speaker 2: Oh it's killed. We've we've forgotten about him already, look right,
Speaker 2: it's yeah, the guy hit some bomb well. And then
Speaker 2: I was there when Matt Stares hit that moonshot for
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was Joe off of Broxton, I believe,
Speaker 2: I mean to the Moon, by the way, I still
Speaker 2: remember that.
Speaker 1: So the call from Joe Buck when Stars hit that
Speaker 1: home run was Into the Night. And so when Tony
Speaker 1: Bruno had his Into the Night's show, it worked perfect
Speaker 1: for Bruno because it was his show and it was
Speaker 1: a Philly so we're perfect Bruno. So yeah, the Into
Speaker 1: the Night Daniel Murphy, Daniel, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Liked you.
Speaker 1: Nobody kicking him out and he hit that home run
Speaker 1: off Granky, and I remember just the vibe at Dodger
Speaker 1: stayed him being like, oh no, it's happening.
Speaker 2: So I'll make a deal. If Tommy Edmund turns into
Speaker 2: one of those guys, I will get on here and
Speaker 2: I will kiss Dave Roberts took us, and I will
Speaker 2: admit I was terrible. That was a terrible take. I
Speaker 2: will apologize for the take. I do not think that's
Speaker 2: going to happen. I mean it sounds like a bet.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that sounds like I probably did die
Speaker 2: if Tommy Edmund and Rosario lead the Dodgers in the
Speaker 2: playoffs and they even if they win one playoff series
Speaker 2: with those guys leading the way and they get to
Speaker 2: the World Series. I mean, okay.
Speaker 3: And by the way, so based on you guys' most
Speaker 3: recent conversation, when I see the great Kevin ac who's
Speaker 3: been down in San Diego for years on the Union Tribune,
Speaker 3: when he says it's quite a hall of the Potters
Speaker 3: are sitting to Miami for Tanner Scott, I should take
Speaker 3: that with a grain of salt.
Speaker 2: Of course, yes, because Charlotte's seconds ago. Okay, it's all
Speaker 2: boiler plate. I'm telling you, Kevin, it's all boiler plate.
Speaker 2: They all have this ready to go. Whatever the Monks got,
Speaker 2: and you know, they go to Miami. You go play
Speaker 2: ball for a couple of years. If you're good, you
Speaker 2: go to the Yankees and the Dodgers or another team.
Speaker 2: You don't stay in Miami.
Speaker 1: It's it's lotto scratchers. You don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: you have until you scratch them off. So to sit
Speaker 1: there and say, hey, man, I've got ten grand in
Speaker 1: my back pocket right now, and the guy, oh, let
Speaker 1: me see it, and you pull out like a lot
Speaker 1: of lotto scratchers. It's not the same thing. It's not
Speaker 1: the hall that everybody makes it to be. But I
Speaker 1: do like that. That was the go to fresh off
Speaker 1: the discussion that we were just having.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's really it's a hustle Jones because it's
Speaker 2: one of those things. It's the easiest thing to do.
Speaker 2: You you praise the minor league players for the future
Speaker 2: and all that, because people always buy it. They always
Speaker 2: believe that every minor league player is going to be
Speaker 2: the next you know, Mookie Betts and the next show
Speaker 2: Heltani and all that stuff, and most of them turn
Speaker 2: out to be guys that are out of baseball, have
Speaker 2: to get real jobs within five years. Oh no. If
Speaker 2: you are a fan of boxing, it's the week, the
Speaker 2: seek week. Oh it's the best. I love boxing, man,
Speaker 2: I not MMA stuff. I'm a boxing guy.
Speaker 1: And Ben, you mentioned earlier this hour how you're a
Speaker 1: huge fan of the Santa Monica Pier, Well, tomorrow begins
Speaker 1: at six at the iconic Santa Monica Pier. It will
Speaker 1: host its first free professional boxing matches following Terence Crawford's
Speaker 1: public workout. He's the pound for pound king, so there'll
Speaker 1: be a public workout there at the pier in preparation
Speaker 1: for his bout against Israel Madromov at Bemo Stadium this Saturday.
Speaker 1: In Everything or Nothing with check this out a special
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Speaker 1: are available now at ticketmaster dot com. Now if you
Speaker 1: are also a fan not only of boxing and what's
Speaker 1: happening during fight week and everything going on at the
Speaker 1: Santa Monica Pier. If you're a fan of feuds in
Speaker 1: the world of sports radio, we got the latest for you.
Speaker 1: Next am five seventy LA Sports, Ben Mallard Jonas knocks
Speaker 1: in for Fred and Rodney here coming up TOPA.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll call it about ten little over ten minutes.
Speaker 1: From now here on AM five seventy we are going
Speaker 1: to get round two of Vasa versus Malor here on
Speaker 1: the air. Lots of conversation.
Speaker 2: To be had.
Speaker 1: With a little over an hour left in the MLB
Speaker 1: trade deadline, we've got a little bit of a little
Speaker 1: bit over an hour. I'm looking at an hour and
Speaker 1: one minute left, Ben mallor less than an hour.
Speaker 2: And thirty seconds, thirty seconds on the live clock. And
Speaker 2: that matchup you're promoting there, Jonas, you're a hype man.
Speaker 2: That's a heavyweight versus a lightweight is what that matchup is?
Speaker 2: No chance And there's a we were talking conspiracy theories earlier.
Speaker 2: There's a new conspiracy theory what the Podrays are doing
Speaker 2: right now. The Podrays have traded away pretty much their
Speaker 2: entire minor league system over the last couple of months
Speaker 2: to get Dylan Ceese, Luis Rise, and now they got
Speaker 2: Tanner Scott as well. So the conspiracy theory is that
Speaker 2: the team is going to end up being sold and
Speaker 2: that they're doing this now, one last run with this players,
Speaker 2: and they're they're gonna start unloading guys in the offseason.
Speaker 2: You buy that, jonas you think to that conspiracy that
Speaker 2: the reason the Padres are doing this is because this
Speaker 2: is last chance saloon for the Padres and if they
Speaker 2: don't win this year, they're gonna have to get rid
Speaker 2: of some of those massive contracts in the offseason. Why
Speaker 2: would like, with live sports in the way it is,
Speaker 2: why would anybody sell their team right now? Why not wait,
Speaker 2: like like ride the wave as long as you can
Speaker 2: and then sell them, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: it's weird that the Celtics have decided that ownership. There's like, oh,
Speaker 2: now we're going to sell the team. Like I get it,
Speaker 2: you just want an NBA title. But with all the
Speaker 2: money and the revenue coming in, like, why not hold
Speaker 2: on a little bit longer? We are in a tough
Speaker 2: spot there. They're one of the teams I say tough spot.
Speaker 2: They're still making money hand over fist. But when Peter
Speaker 2: Seidler died and then they had the double whammie because
Speaker 2: the TV deal in San Diego fell apart, they lost
Speaker 2: their their cable TV contract in San Diego. So the
Speaker 2: any Seidler was the grandson of Walter O'Malley right, the
Speaker 2: guy that he spent all the money for the Padres.
Speaker 2: I believe that's the case. So uh as just the text,
Speaker 2: I got that the reason the Potters are making all
Speaker 2: these trades is because they're they're gonna have to unload
Speaker 2: a bunch of players in the offseason. I mean, was
Speaker 2: was that a text from the great Steve Hartman? Was
Speaker 2: that Homer Hartman? No? I was not from Pat O'Brien either,
Speaker 2: Bean Maller, let.
Speaker 1: Me tell you what's going on with the ponds pet
Speaker 1: Co Park. It'll be owned by somebody else and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to change the name.
Speaker 2: It will no longer be called pet Co Park. Yes, uh,
Speaker 2: a final push? How about this one final push? Jonas
Speaker 2: the Yankees and the Astros trying to get the great
Speaker 2: Yondi Diaz from your Tampa Bay rig Son. What on
Speaker 2: what a stunner The Razors are trading somebody again. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, for those of you that
Speaker 1: are still going to raise games, God bless you.
Speaker 2: Just enjoy a hardy bunch. You're a hardy bunch. All
Speaker 2: that we're still waiting for the Dodgers anything having anything
Speaker 2: from the Dodgers anything.
Speaker 3: The latest thing on the Dodger front comes from John Hayman.
Speaker 3: Here's what he says. Dodgers were another team in at
Speaker 3: the end for Tanner Scott. That may have triggered the
Speaker 3: Padres to do more. That's your Dodger trade update right here.
Speaker 2: Back to you. That's back to you at the news desk. Wow,
Speaker 2: a lot of crickets. Even the Angels are doing it. Angels.
Speaker 2: I thought the angel would trade half their rosters. Nobody
Speaker 2: wants Angels.
Speaker 3: But Anthony Rendon on the injured list again, that's what
Speaker 3: just happened once a month.
Speaker 2: So he's in mid season four then, right, he's in
Speaker 2: mid season form Rendon. Yeah, there you go. Wonderful.
Speaker 1: Well listen, I mean we are going to get As
Speaker 1: we mentioned round two of this this back and forth
Speaker 1: with with David Vasse and Ben Mallor. We also had
Speaker 1: another incident that took place earlier in the world of
Speaker 1: sports and sports radio. Jeffrey Simmons, the stud defensive lineman
Speaker 1: for your Tennessee Titans. Ben Mallor, Yeah, apparently he and
Speaker 1: Buck Rising, a local radio host, had a little stage name.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you know that sounds like well, you
Speaker 2: know what it sounds like.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a name from Pro wrestler reports, start.
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, exactly, You're not making that up. I swear
Speaker 2: to god. Rising is a star rising Nashville radio. Okay,
Speaker 2: he's got the Buck Rising Show and uh and so
Speaker 2: he stops with him.
Speaker 1: Apparently he had tensions were rising, Ben Mallor when Buck
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey got together at Titans training camp.
Speaker 2: Here was the exchange. Sit down.
Speaker 4: We can talk whatever you want to talk, Jeff. We'll
Speaker 4: deal with that later. Roger McCreery sitting down with us
Speaker 4: here on one O four five his own Jeff, I
Speaker 4: mean we're on the air right now.
Speaker 2: A lot of me.
Speaker 4: I'm right here, Jeff. We can talk anytime you want to. Unbelievable.
Speaker 4: We gotta make that happen. Well, we'll deal with that
Speaker 4: later on Roger McCreary sitting down with us. Jeff, if
Speaker 4: you want to sit down and talk about this, we
Speaker 4: can talk about this.
Speaker 2: You stop talking about social media. Talk to me.
Speaker 4: I'm talking to you right here, Jeff. We tried to
Speaker 4: talk to you last week.
Speaker 2: I'm talking.
Speaker 4: I'm being rude to Roger. Will do with you later.
Speaker 2: Did he say I tried to talk to you last week
Speaker 2: and I don't want to talk to you. Is he
Speaker 2: talking to him right now? Am I wrong? Is what
Speaker 2: he's doing? Yes? By the way, I do.
Speaker 1: I do like how this this is considered like a legit,
Speaker 1: like back and forth when Mike North and Ozzie Gee
Speaker 1: and years ago had Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 3: There's not enough bleeps or dump buttons enough for me
Speaker 3: to air that.
Speaker 7: It's just.
Speaker 2: You know, have you have you ever had one of
Speaker 2: these jonas where a player gets in your face and
Speaker 2: just yells at you. Oh, Brandon Marshall, uh, the former
Speaker 2: NFL wide receiver. So we were at a radio row
Speaker 2: in uh San Francisco. It was the Super Bowl in
Speaker 2: Santa Clair.
Speaker 1: But we were like, you know, uh playing you know,
Speaker 1: hopscotch over sleeping bags to get to the to the
Speaker 1: media center. And so we get there in downtown San
Speaker 1: Francisco and Jay Moore like mentioned something about that is correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to step on and he toes here right,
Speaker 1: you know, I just I want to be clear here.
Speaker 1: I just want to you know, paint the picture correctly.
Speaker 1: But so he was like talking to Brandon Marshall, and
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall is a big dude, like he's like six
Speaker 1: or four. He's jacked, and he had left the Bears
Speaker 1: and he was I think he was on the Jets now.
Speaker 1: And so Brandon Marshall like was trying to tell some
Speaker 1: story about you know, the Bears and is falling out
Speaker 1: with the Bears and saying, oh, well, you know, listen,
Speaker 1: like they wanted to be gone and I would never
Speaker 1: you know, go out and like, you know, want anybody
Speaker 1: gone for when I specifically remembered him after a game
Speaker 1: saying if things don't improve around here, there needs to
Speaker 1: be some changes, that includes on the coaching staff, like
Speaker 1: something along those lines. And all I did was pointed
Speaker 1: out to him, and so Jay being Jay just kept
Speaker 1: stirring the pot and I was like, well, hold on,
Speaker 1: say and Brandon Marshall, what did I lie about?
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Last year after a game you were frustrated and you
Speaker 1: said postgame that if there's not some improvements around here,
Speaker 1: there needs to be some changes. Is that not calling
Speaker 1: for some changes like somebody's job, like you said it specifically,
Speaker 1: And he got so pissed because I was I was right,
Speaker 1: and I remembered the incident because it was like a
Speaker 1: big story in the NFL at the time. And he
Speaker 1: started ripping me and he's like, I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: up here and take this from that guy with all
Speaker 1: that gel in his hair. So like he got like
Speaker 1: he got pissy about it, and you know, afterwards when
Speaker 1: everything calmed down, like you know, he ended up, you know,
Speaker 1: we should shook hands or whatever. I was like, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to cod like, that's not me. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to start fights or anything that He's oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's all, hey, I respect that, you know, you didn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people like to they say
Speaker 1: something then they'll back down or what. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: well there was no, it's fine, Like I don't blame you.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get the hell out of there too.
Speaker 1: Like it's so everything was fine. But that was my
Speaker 1: only real interaction. You, on the hand, just.
Speaker 2: Get free shoes, like you get free shoes from Brandon Bass. Like,
Speaker 2: but no, I've had I've had, as you know, Jonas,
Speaker 2: I've had a fair amount of runnings over the years.
Speaker 2: But as the the great late T. J. Simers taught me,
Speaker 2: the other days. He said, if you're gonna rip the guys,
Speaker 2: you gotta show up. I used to sup all the time, right,
Speaker 2: So I ripped the guys. I'm gonna date myself. But
Speaker 2: the Dodgers used to. They made a trade with the
Speaker 2: Mets to get this guy named Todd Hunley. Right, this
Speaker 2: is years ago, and it was, you know, on the
Speaker 2: local airways here and I he was terrible. He couldn't throw,
Speaker 2: he couldn't hit. I didn't even know why he was
Speaker 2: on the team. So I was like, I took shots
Speaker 2: at him, right, And so I was out of I
Speaker 2: was in the Dodgers clubhouse, uh, one day and Hunley
Speaker 2: comes up to me and he's like, are you Are
Speaker 2: you Ben Maller. I'm yeah, whatever. You do that radio show? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do the radio show. I says, this is the line.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget this line as long as I live.
Speaker 2: He says, I don't listen to sports radio, but my
Speaker 2: family does. And they're said, with what you're saying, I mean,
Speaker 2: he was, it was outstanding. It was so good. I
Speaker 2: don't listen to you, but my family does, and they
Speaker 2: don't like.
Speaker 1: What you're saying about how much how much bigger? Were
Speaker 1: you than him, Do you think that might have deterred him,
Speaker 1: because what are you?
Speaker 2: Six seven? No, I'm not that tall, but I was
Speaker 2: much bigger than him, and really I was very fat
Speaker 2: at the time, so I could have sat on him
Speaker 2: and crushed him or something like that. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: was the one guy that I thought was going to
Speaker 2: kill me. He's dead now, so I can tell this story.
Speaker 2: Was this guy named Tony Phillips who played for the Angels,
Speaker 2: and I was assigned to cover the Angels in the
Speaker 2: nineties when they blew I think eleven game lead in August,
Speaker 2: late August, they had an eleven game lead and the
Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners came back. Sorry, Kevin, Sorry, sorry to bring
Speaker 2: up those old memories. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm in the
Speaker 2: locker room, right, So I'm and I was doing stuff
Speaker 2: for the Associated Press, so I had to get a
Speaker 2: SoundBite from somebody on the Angels. Those guys didn't want
Speaker 2: to talk, they couldn't hit, they couldn't play defense. They
Speaker 2: were terrible, right, and so Tony, I remember it was
Speaker 2: a Sunday afternoon. I just told I ran into Tim
Speaker 2: Mead recently I told him the story because he was
Speaker 2: the PR guy for the years and uh. And so
Speaker 2: I'm in the locker room and I had to talk
Speaker 2: to Tony Phillips because they had three hits in the game.
Speaker 2: He had two of them, right, so you had to
Speaker 2: get the star of the game for the end. So
Speaker 2: I interviewed Phillips in the locker room. He comes out
Speaker 2: from the from the shower area. He's in a bad mood,
Speaker 2: and I'm waiting. I'm the only one year's locker so
Speaker 2: I'm like waiting to talk to him. I asked him
Speaker 2: like a generic a you know, what do you think
Speaker 2: the angels can do to turn things around? He stands up,
Speaker 2: He's sitting. He's a little guy, for he's a very
Speaker 2: small man. He stands up and starts screaming at me.
Speaker 2: And I'm like a kid at the time. I was
Speaker 2: very young at the time. And uh, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. And I was saved by Chili Davis.
Speaker 2: He came over and saved me. I did I froze?
Speaker 2: You know you froze sometimes, you know I froze. I
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do, Like this was a big
Speaker 2: I was just a fan a couple of years earlier.
Speaker 2: And this guy who I'd watched on TV wanted to
Speaker 2: kick my ass, and I'm like, I didn't know how
Speaker 2: to handle it, you know, and I like kind of
Speaker 2: froze was a long and like chili came over and
Speaker 2: they like kind of got between us and and I
Speaker 2: guess later on we learned Tony Phillips had some issues,
Speaker 2: some off the field issues that I was not aware
Speaker 2: of at the time. He might have been partaking in
Speaker 2: at that I don't know. But now, now, were you
Speaker 2: trying to be an a hole or resilient? I was
Speaker 2: a question. I became an a hole the longer I
Speaker 2: was in the business. At that time. I was naive.
Speaker 2: I was wright eyed, bushy tailed, you know, I was
Speaker 2: a fan. I know Phillips.
Speaker 1: Did he also play for the Tigers too? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was, by the way, very good ballplayer.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was very good, and he was ahead of
Speaker 2: his time, was analytics and on base and all that.
Speaker 2: But one of the great hotheads of all time, Tony Phillips,
Speaker 2: And oh man, what a debacle. And the Angels actually
Speaker 2: brought him back later on and he yelled at me
Speaker 2: again a second time later on, he yelled it he
Speaker 2: didn't like me. Oh well, you know, Ben at least
Speaker 2: your past. Some of those feuds.
Speaker 1: You know told him in thirty years, I haven't let
Speaker 1: it go. No, but you know we thought, what do
Speaker 1: we dust? Another one off? Back for round two. Vassa
Speaker 1: Maller next