WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.200 Company fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 2 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:06.599 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think 3 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:07.240 when we. 4 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:09.800 Are get off our show, idiot. 5 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:11.359 The kids are playing a tailt. 6 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:13.000 The countries are screwing it up. 7 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.359 Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. 8 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:19.440 They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 9 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:21.199 Who's the kid here? 10 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:23.079 Who's the kid here? 11 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:38.399 Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee? 12 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:43.560 All right, let's get this started. Coffee and Company. That's us. 13 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:45.960 That's the name of the show. My name is Nick Coffee, 14 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:49.359 hence the name. And we've got Austin Montgomery alongside today, 15 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.439 just like we do really every day now and we're 16 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:56.600 with you until six o'clock and obviously a lot to discuss. 17 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:59.600 I am, believe it or not, in a pretty good 18 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:01.679 mood today. I've got some I've got some good energy. 19 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.520 The energy levels are where I feel like they need 20 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:05.159 to be for me to, you know, host a three 21 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:08.599 hour radio show. But obviously the result from last night's 22 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:12.280 game not not great, and we'll certainly talk a lot 23 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:13.840 about that. And if you guys want to be a 24 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:16.079 part of the show today, we will let you do that, 25 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:17.879 you can give us a call FIVEBO two five seven 26 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.200 one seventy nine hundred, and you can text it in 27 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:22.200 on the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text line at 28 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.959 five O two six five three zero seven ninety. I've 29 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:27.439 got a plan today as far as how I'm going 30 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:28.920 to balance things out, because I don't want to just 31 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:32.840 spend three hours talking about how rough it was to 32 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.000 see that gameplay out the way that it did last night. 33 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:39.040 And I totally understand if you're a fan of Louisville 34 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:41.840 basketball and you kind of have really started to doubt 35 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:45.719 if this team is good enough to, you know, compete 36 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.439 for a spot in the NCAA tournament. I will tell 37 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:51.879 you that last night was was a tough. Look. I 38 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:55.439 still think that this thing can be can be salvage 39 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:59.680 to a point where you know, you might find yourself 40 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:03.519 a potential tournament team, but I also can't ignore what 41 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.079 what happened last night. I also think there's some factors 42 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.560 that we'll certainly discuss that that I would hope in 43 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.960 a week, maybe hopefully by Sunday, you know, it's not 44 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.879 as big of an issue, but obviously it kind of 45 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:17.439 seemed like everything just kind of came to a head 46 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:20.360 last night with Louisville dealing with a lot of injuries. 47 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:23.120 I think these guys just kind of visibly you could 48 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.439 tell that they they know, they know what it's they 49 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.400 know what they're missing when they don't have Caseon Bryor 50 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:30.520 out there, a leader for this team, one of their 51 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.639 best players. Clearly, Koran Johnson hasn't played in a long time, 52 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.199 but now they know he's done for the year, and 53 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.319 that's not really an excuse. Pat Kelsey really emphasized that 54 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:42.520 last night and his postgame press conference. As far as 55 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:46.719 you know that next man up, you can't use that 56 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.840 as an excuse, and you can't approach it that way. 57 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:51.520 You can't be a victim. And I don't think these 58 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.199 guys did that last night. And I think the guy 59 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.680 leading this program is somebody that will make it clear that, yeah, 60 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:58.479 they know what's going on, but there's there's gonna be 61 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.960 no feeling sorry for yourself. There's gonna be no victims. 62 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:02.360 You're just gonna have to keep fighting and try to 63 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:05.400 figure it out. Now, will that result in them being 64 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:08.280 able to become a good team despite how shorthanded they are. 65 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:11.759 Only time will tell, But I don't have much doubt 66 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.719 that the guy that's in charge is going to do 67 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:17.360 everything he can to try to figure it out instead of, 68 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:22.520 you know, feeling sorry for themselves. Now, speaking of that, 69 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.639 the last guy here that was coaching, he felt like 70 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:29.599 a victim the second he walked on campus, the second 71 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:31.280 he got here. He never really felt like there was 72 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:34.599 any scenario where louisvill would be good and it was 73 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.240 all everybody else was falled and we should just be 74 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.919 thankful that he's here. And that man is Kenny Payne. 75 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:41.280 So I bring that up a couple of minutes into 76 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:43.039 the show because at three poin thirty we're gonna be 77 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.439 joined by Jay Williams of ESPN. And I don't remember 78 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:47.719 if I ever talked about this on the show or not, 79 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:50.039 because obviously if you follow me on social media, then 80 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.080 then you probably saw the back and forth between myself 81 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:55.639 and Jay Williams, and I think I might have brought 82 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.639 it up like when we did that brief show after 83 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:02.400 the Indiana game, meaning like we were on the air 84 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:04.599 as soon as the game or from three o'clock to 85 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:08.599 I guess about five, And I don't Austin, you may remember, 86 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.599 you may not if you don't know, biggie. Did I 87 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:12.280 talk about it on the show as far as like 88 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.400 Jay Williams saying he wanted to come on at some point. 89 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:15.599 I don't remember. 90 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:16.639 I don't know. 91 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:17.480 Yeah, I don't. 92 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.040 Do you even have a clue what I'm talking about? 93 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:21.160 I don't, And if you don't, it's okay because I 94 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:23.079 never brought it up. It was something that I just 95 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:24.560 didn't really know if it was going to happen or not. 96 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:26.920 But I think you may have mentioned because Jay Williams 97 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.040 was given Louisville some praise, yes for finally being back. 98 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:31.680 So I don't remember any back and forth. 99 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.839 Well, so here's what happened. He at halftime, when Indiana 100 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.959 was getting their ass kicked by Louisville, they went to 101 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:39.759 the studio set and he was a part of the 102 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.160 of the of the studio set, the halftime crew, and 103 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.240 he was being being very complimentary of Pat Kelcey and 104 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.040 saying it was nice to have Louisville back, and then 105 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.800 he mentioned props to Pat Kelsey, you know, especially with 106 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:56.199 what he inherited, and I tweeted out that that's crazy, 107 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.519 given the fact that you know, Pat Kelcey actually did 108 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.360 inherit an awful situation didn't play fait. And I'll go 109 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:03.839 back and pull up the tweet word for word just 110 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:06.839 so we have some proper context. But you know, Jay 111 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:09.680 Williams was one of the guys initially that I think 112 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:11.800 was a part of the and I don't want to 113 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.959 see him specifically, and I'll ask him directly because he's 114 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:16.360 going to join us on the show A three thirty, 115 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:17.759 but I just want to set it up as to 116 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.680 how we got here. So he was one of many 117 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.600 ESPN or really just national college basketball guys that occasionally 118 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.879 would gaslight Louisville fans as if we need to chill 119 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.879 out and not be mean to Kenny Payne because it's 120 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:33.399 none of it's his fault and people don't realize what 121 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.720 he's dealing with and what he inherited in the mess 122 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:37.959 and it's broke and all that stuff. That's just triggering 123 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.040 PTSD for me as we speak, because it's all nonsense. 124 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:44.040 And really it was disrespectful to Chris Mack who did 125 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.720 walk away, but he's the one who actually went through 126 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:51.279 the worst of like scandal stuff. I mean, he actually 127 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:55.000 didn't have nil and the portal because that hadn't existed yet. 128 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.399 And he didn't leave a bad culture of players. Those 129 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.560 guys who were on the team when Kenny got here 130 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.519 that stayed were good young men that did not have 131 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:03.920 a bad like he didn't inherit a bunch of bad dudes, 132 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:05.959 and some people bought that after year one, oh, he's 133 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.040 going to go get new players because he took over 134 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.279 a locker room that has a bunch of bad apples. 135 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:11.920 And that was never the case at all. And it 136 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.439 played out the next year where they were slightly better 137 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:17.360 with slightly better talent, but still the problem was the 138 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:19.160 guy leading, who was not a leader by the way. 139 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:23.439 So I didn't I mean, I didn't call him a name. 140 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.040 I just said, it's crazy that Jay Williams is. Did 141 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.160 you really just say props to Pat Kelsey for what 142 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:31.240 he inherited whenever he you know, like Pat Kelsey actually 143 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.160 did inherit a mess, but he didn't play victim. Again, 144 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.560 he's got If Louivill didn't have injuries, I think we'd 145 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:37.879 be in a little bit of a different situation, especially 146 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:39.560 with our mindset right now when it comes to love 147 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.519 of basketball. So he responded by just saying, you know, 148 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:45.279 why don't you tag me Nick or something like that. 149 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.720 Very playful. He wasn't like we were screaming at each other, 150 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.079 but you know, he said, why don't you have me 151 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:53.120 on your show? So I said, come on any time. 152 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.160 I just assumed it would be done then. Well, then 153 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.079 on Thanksgiving morning he DMed me and said Happy Thanksgiving 154 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:00.240 and said when are we doing this? And we actually 155 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.759 throughout Monday initially to start the show with it, and 156 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.480 he had some stuff going on, and we then bumped 157 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.360 it back to today at at three thirty. So he's 158 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:11.439 actually on the call tonight in one of the acc 159 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.560 SEC Challenge games, but he's going to join us at 160 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.600 three thirty, and I mean, I'm going to ask him 161 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:20.800 about you know. You know, I'll save it because I 162 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.480 I know there was at least one instance where he 163 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:28.519 was sort of telling Louisville fans to kind of calm 164 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.920 down and give Kenny Payne some time. And I don't 165 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:33.279 remember if he was one. And it's probably not fair. 166 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:35.519 In fact, it isn't fair, but it's just how it's 167 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:38.439 just how it is. You know, when you've got ESPN's 168 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.519 crew of college basketball guys, rather it be somebody that 169 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:43.319 is an analyst, somebody that's a played by play guy 170 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.759 or just somebody who covers the sport like Seth Greenberg. 171 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:49.519 I mean, he he's he's he was the worst as 172 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:51.600 far as my in my opinion, when it comes to 173 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:55.800 just refusing to acknowledge that like he was dead wrong 174 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:57.759 about Kenny Payne. Like he's the one who said that 175 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:00.879 Louisville should have like should have high fared him mid 176 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:04.240 season whenever Mack left, and look, a lot of people 177 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:05.879 said Kenny Payne should be hired, Like it's okay to 178 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:08.920 be wrong, but like he just acted like he didn't 179 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.839 guess like Louisville fans for being unreasonable because they should 180 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:15.319 just understand that they should be thankful Kenny's here. So 181 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:17.839 I know, Jay didn't say those were the worst people 182 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:21.399 are the worst of the national folks that tried to 183 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.399 tell Louisville fans that we need to be nice to 184 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.120 Kenny Payne because we should be thanking him essentially because 185 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.879 he came here to take over this mess of a situation. 186 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:36.039 Seth Greenberg is up there. Corey Alexander is actually the worst. 187 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:38.399 I don't know how that guy can look himself in 188 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:40.240 the mirror with some of the nonsense that he said. 189 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.679 As far as blaming Louisville fans for the lack of 190 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:47.240 getting recruits when Kenny wasn't even active recruiting anybody. And 191 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:51.279 the I mean it was the last game of the season, 192 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:53.440 when they were losing in the NCAA or they were 193 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.399 losing in the ACEC tournament. Everybody knew it was gonna 194 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.440 be over. And he's like doing this. It's gonna be 195 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.039 a real shame of this, acting like Kenny was a 196 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:04.120 good coach when in fact he quite literally not exaggeration, 197 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:07.159 is the worst college basketball high of ball time, like 198 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.679 he just is. So you know, I don't want to 199 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.279 revisit that previous era, but we'll get Jay's thoughts on it, 200 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.759 cause I'm just gonna essentially ask him, like when it 201 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:18.879 comes to the information you guys were getting, because I 202 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.000 believe trust me, I know how this works. I know 203 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:22.720 that the guys who cover the games, the guys who 204 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.080 are able to get access because they work for ESPN 205 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:26.399 and they're going to be part of the broadcast in 206 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.399 some form or fashion, they're going to get access to 207 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:30.919 the player, to coaches, and I know those coaches were 208 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.080 probably feeding them nonsense and if they ran with it, 209 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:35.559 that's really just you know that's there. I mean, they're 210 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:38.399 they're sharing what they heard directly from somebody, but clearly 211 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.639 if if it was all being stated that they're trying. 212 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.559 But man, you just don't know what we've we've what 213 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.519 we've dealt with, you don't know what we inherited. Then 214 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:47.799 you know that that was just a lie. So this 215 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.039 isn't going to be like a yelling, screaming thing. I'm 216 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:52.279 I'm very happy that he decided that he would come 217 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:54.600 on the show, and I look forward to talking to him. 218 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.440 You know, I want to get his thoughts also on Kentucky, 219 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.240 because Kentucky obviously beat Duke, and he really made Yucky 220 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.480 fans angry after he did a video shortly after the 221 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:05.200 game and basically telling Kentucky fans to chill out. They 222 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.960 need to understand that despite the loss, Cooper Flag is 223 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.279 still going to be somebody that is going to be 224 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.799 all over ESPN because he's a big time star and 225 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:14.960 he's going to bring more eyeballs to college basketball. So 226 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:17.320 looking forward to talking to him. He's expected to call 227 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.159 in at three point thirty today and you know, we'll 228 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:24.120 see what happens. So just wanted to give you a 229 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.200 heads up that is coming at three thirty, and also, 230 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:29.639 you know, just explain the situation because it is kind 231 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:31.840 of random that this that this is, this is all come. 232 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:34.200 He's not somebody's ever been on the show before. I 233 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:36.679 would never go about, you know, trying to to to 234 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:38.159 ask him if he wants to come on, just because 235 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:39.840 I wouldn't think that he would. He would, he would 236 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.960 do it, but who knows, maybe it turns into something 237 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.720 to where we end up, you know, we end up 238 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:48.759 making him a you know, not a regular, but somebody 239 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:50.840 who comes on from time to time to talk some 240 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:51.519 college oops. 241 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:53.279 Yeah, little Jay William's friend of the show. 242 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:53.519 Yeah. 243 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:55.279 I like how that's friend of the program. I love 244 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.000 that look. So again, before we dive in and talk 245 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:03.519 about you know, last night and how sad it was, 246 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.799 I mean I wasn't really angry. I was just you know, like, 247 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:11.200 may be sad is an exaggeration. But we are going 248 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.440 to talk about Kentucky taking their first loss, because, believe 249 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.200 it or not, one thing I said as soon as 250 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.559 these guys got hired, Pat Kelce and Mark Pope, they 251 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:20.480 they they're very similar as far as how they want 252 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.879 to play. They're very analytically driven and the same way 253 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:27.720 that teams are gonna successfully so far. I mean, the 254 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:29.759 teams that have tried to slow Louisville down have done 255 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:31.399 a good job of doing it. Last night, I mean 256 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:34.440 Chris Beard, I think he joined Rick Barnes as far 257 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:36.720 as the two coaches that really put on a really 258 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:39.080 good performance, as far as showing how you take Louisville 259 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.519 out of what they want to do and you really 260 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.080 dare them to shoot threes because you know that the 261 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.720 numbers tell you that they're not good shooters. So you 262 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.759 know that happened a little bit to Kentucky last night, 263 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:51.519 right the game was slowed down, there weren't as many 264 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:55.759 many possessions as as Kentucky wanted. And Clemson, you know, 265 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:58.039 they were tough physically and they beat up on them 266 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.200 and they were able to pull out a win. We 267 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.360 also got to talk about the college football playoff rankings 268 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:06.559 because why do they even I mean, I hate to 269 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:09.120 give you the same recycled take that I've had on 270 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:12.600 this for the last month or so, but don't put 271 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:15.600 somebody in front of a camera after you make these 272 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:20.840 decisions whenever you know you can't you can't give any 273 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.399 data or facts that back up where you have certain 274 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:29.200 teams ranked. And I really think that a formula, maybe 275 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.639 not the BCS formula of old, but maybe something like 276 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:36.080 that would in fact be a better scenario than this committee, 277 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:40.320 because there's just there's there's plenty of teams ranked at 278 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.919 a certain spot that have no there's no shot that 279 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:45.519 mean it's over. I mean, the majority of college football 280 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.639 teams aren't playing in their championship games, so like they 281 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.200 can't move, they're done. But like there's examples of like 282 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.679 how would how do you justify this? So even though 283 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.559 there's teams ranked egregiously that aren't in contingent for the playoff, 284 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.080 it just gives people another example of like what are 285 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:04.480 you all doing? Like what's going on here? So Ward Manual, 286 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:06.919 the Michigan Athletic Director, who is essentially the spokesman for 287 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:09.440 the committee, who comes on live television right after they 288 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.039 give us the rankings. You know, I mean give him credit. 289 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.279 He's out there doing and he's trying his best to 290 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:16.559 to you know, not make it look as bad as 291 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:18.600 it looks. But there's just certain things that just you 292 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:21.120 can't make any sense of. So we'll get into that 293 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.720 and again, we'll taken you up until till six o'clock, 294 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:27.320 all right, So just my thoughts on last on last night, 295 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:30.720 this is something that we still don't like to say, 296 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.480 but it needs to be said. You lost to a 297 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.879 better team Ole Miss. I know they were underdogs, and 298 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:40.799 I don't you know, I get why Louisville was favored 299 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.320 slightly at home because they were coming off of a 300 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.759 good performance in the Bahamas. Ole Miss doesn't have a 301 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:48.840 win that really, I mean, Louisville has a better win. 302 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:51.039 In fact, Louville may have two better wins on the 303 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:55.080 resume than what Miss that Ole Miss had and they 304 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:56.799 lost a close game to Purdue what they lost. So 305 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:00.559 like Louisville being favored and crazy, but like ole Miss 306 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.159 was better and ole Miss was probably a better team. 307 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:06.399 Even if Louisville had prior doesn't mean louivill wouldn't have won. 308 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:08.240 But like, Ole Miss is a good team, and I 309 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:09.399 don't know if they're going to end up making a 310 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.360 deep run in the tournament. We know the coach that 311 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.840 they have as a really really good coach and he 312 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:16.639 showed that last night. So again, you don't want to 313 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.480 be here as far as just you knowing that Old 314 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.080 Miss is better than you, but they are they are 315 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.919 now knowing that a team that's better than you beat 316 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.120 you is tough enough, but it's even more tough to 317 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.279 know that, you know, they beat you eighty six to 318 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.039 sixty three. And it kind of felt like at times 319 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.159 it might it might get even worse than that, And 320 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:35.480 in fact, I think it did get a little bit 321 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.559 worse than that at times. So look, there's a lot 322 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.200 of layers to just the the strategy, the style of 323 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:45.399 play for Louisville that I'm going to try my best 324 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:47.480 to balance it and not turn into just a big 325 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.600 dork talking talking ball. I mean, I am a ball knower, 326 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:52.679 at least I tell myself that I am. Yeah, you are, 327 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.480 but I know that like that, that's not where That's 328 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:57.200 not what this is for. That's not what this show is. 329 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:59.799 We're trying to have fun, try to be entertaining. But 330 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:02.240 you know, there are some things that I think would 331 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:04.360 make sense to people, even if you are somebody that 332 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:06.720 you know doesn't follow basketball that closely, or maybe you 333 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:08.320 know more about basketball than I do. I don't know, 334 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:12.399 but I'm just saying this team being a shooting team, 335 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:16.039 a lot of people are basing that off of the 336 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:19.639 percentage that these guys shot at their previous school. Because 337 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:21.600 right now, I mean, let me pull it up Lois, 338 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:24.799 by the way, last night they shot from three? Was 339 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:27.799 it thirteen percent something like that? Last night Louisa shot 340 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:32.960 seventeen percent from three? They made let's see five of 341 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.759 thirty from three. I mean, that's just that's that's not 342 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:38.080 gonna do it. Can't buy a bucket, and we all 343 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:44.360 know that. So when it comes to this team, there's 344 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:48.000 guys that can make shots. Like if you shot a 345 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.320 certain amount of attempts and your percentage was in the 346 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.399 thirty mid thirties to forty, you're a shooter. But it's 347 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:57.039 that doesn't it's not just all based off your percentage. 348 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:00.320 Like for example, Noah Waterman, who, by the way, did 349 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.120 play in a fast system last year at BYU, And 350 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:04.799 maybe he's not the best example. Let me give you 351 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.360 a different example here, because and you know, he's somebody 352 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:10.480 that is not making shots at the same rate he 353 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:12.559 did last year, and some of his misses are just 354 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:14.960 him missing open looks and he'll eventually get those to fall. 355 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.360 But like him, you know making it, you know, cutting 356 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:21.279 from the from from the block up to the to 357 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:23.960 the wing and just catching it and firing it like 358 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.840 that's that's not a I don't think like the percentage 359 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.519 is that you saw from his time at BYU and 360 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.279 wherever else Noah played, that wasn't what he was doing. 361 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:36.240 So like Terrence Edwards Junior, he's a guy that last 362 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:38.559 year shot the ball pretty well from three, and we 363 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.200 at times have seen him make some threes here, but 364 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.120 he's playing in a completely different system that he did 365 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:45.679 at James Madison. So like, I just think the numbers 366 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:49.919 as far as what they did previously, it's irrelevant. And look, 367 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:52.720 they're a better shooting team than what they showed last night. 368 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.399 I think they're a better shooting team than what their 369 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.200 percentage shows right now. But they haven't you know, that's 370 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:01.200 that's just a guess for me. I don't really have 371 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.200 anything to back that up on. And some people would say, well, 372 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:06.079 look at their numbers from last year. I'm not doing that. 373 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.559 I just know that you can't mean they're missing because 374 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:10.599 it you start to press, it becomes a mental thing 375 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.599 whenever you know you're missing open shots. And here's a 376 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:16.759 big factor. At the other schools, these guys were at 377 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.480 the Open. Three was just one of many components as 378 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.039 far as what you do in your system at Louisville 379 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.400 with Pat Kelsey. And this is not a criticism of 380 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:27.440 his style and his system because I think it can work. 381 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:29.680 I just think you've got some guys that maybe aren't 382 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:31.240 as good a shooters as you thought they were. And 383 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:34.160 also you're clearly injured. You got guys that aren't playing 384 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.759 that you need. They could have helped you. Not only 385 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:39.240 because those guys, I mean, Cason's not a three point 386 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:43.000 shooter despite percentages, but Corin is neither is Treori, to 387 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:45.200 be honest with you, But whenever you've got those guys 388 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.880 to play, everybody else is more fresh. Therefore they're probably 389 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.000 going to have a better likelihood of making shots. These 390 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:51.880 guys are winded, they're playing more minutes now than they 391 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:55.359 typically did, so, you know, disclaimer, it's not like I'm 392 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:57.839 telling you that Pat Kelsey's system is just, you know, terrible, 393 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.279 it'll never work. But I think Terrence Edwards Junior is 394 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:06.279 somebody that last year shot the ball from three, let's see, 395 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:10.319 thirty five percent roughly. That's that's not elite, but that's 396 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.440 not bad. And some would say that's pretty good, and 397 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:15.000 I would I would agree with you, but I would 398 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.440 be willing to bet that the three point shots that 399 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:21.240 he got at JMU aren't a lot of the shots 400 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:23.440 that he's taken now because it's just a different system. 401 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:25.200