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Speaker 2: What about Lunar New Year, which I just found out
about last night?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I don't remember being a It's a
state holiday, not a federal holiday. And I and I
think other states have it all. I don't. I don't
know nothing about it. The Blue States probably have it.
I don't. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know what they have in Massachusetts Triot's dad. Yes,
Red Sox play at eleven o'clock. They have the Boston
Marathon bombing that name that I understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. We should have a Patriots Day too. Yeah,
I don't. I mean the Lunar New Year. I don't.
I mean, I don't care. That's nice to get a day, yeah,
I guess, Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really doesn't impact me.
I have to still work.
Speaker 2: I have to my wife though, she's I'm like, what
are you doing?
Speaker 1: It's lunar New Year. I go for who, Well, you're
not in that whole realm of of weird stuff anyway. Yeah, yeah,
but that's what it is. Weird stuff. Well it is
and it isn't. I mean, it's like, I think it's
more of an Eastern philosophy of the lunar New Year,
and there is some belief that there's energy and powers
from the moon and who knows. Okay hears the Year
of the Snake gentlemen. Yeah, beware of snakes. Yes, well,
they're everywhere physical and metaphorical, yes, figurative. Yes, well, it's
already off to a strange year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny that we say this a
year ago. By the way, they found the people who
like were like ruining New Year's Day. Yet no, you
look more like a New Orleans terrorist attell Oh yeah, yeah,
Texas they did they get them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they got him like that day.
Speaker 2: I I'm sorry, but like the investigation as to what
why were the railings down that day just happened to
be down that I mean that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Because here's why I'm asking that, because a year ago
we had an incident here in Rochester outside the Kodec Theater,
and then it was like just kind of.
Speaker 1: Like, yep, you acting alone, no big deal, nothing to
see here. You look, you lose.
Speaker 2: It's like, really, well, a year later we have another,
you know, I mean, just kind of odd.
Speaker 1: That's all. I'm like.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is pay attention, don't let it go.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all because you said it's a weird year,
and that has been man wilds. I'm saying it's it's
a weird year. But I don't know. I don't. I
can't get caught up in that stuff. I really can't.
I can't. I really feel like that's almost bad for
your health. I think I'm dead. No, no, it is.
I think like watching that, worrying about it, sweating. I
just stopped watching YouTube. I'm starting to talk. I'm talking
to somebody today and they're getting themselves all upset about
something and then they go and you know, and Trump
was cutting all these funny well he didn't. He it's
reinstated already today. It could have been because of the
outcry possibly could have been because they're looking at things fiscally.
I don't know. I here's the thing that I see, Like,
you know, as the confirmation hearings are going on, and
you get Caroline Kennedy saying that Robert F. Kennedy my
uncle Roberts a douche. Well, no, it's her cousin. And
what he said was, yes, it's the daughter of John F. Kennedy,
and so they're cousins. And she said that he is
a predator and then talked about how he used to
put baby chickens and baby mice or mice in a
blender and blend them up for his trained birds like
hawks or whatever he had. I don't know. I don't
know why he would do that either way, but she
said that he did it. And the thing is like,
I go, okay, I we have to if we can
all just for a second, step back, just step back
for a second, please, just for a second. I'm going
to ask this question because people go, well, you know
what you get mad about Trump, that's bullshitting. You're an asshole,
and you're fuck you, and k he's great, and well,
hang on a second, hang on for just a second,
people who would harm animals like that by putting them
in the fucking blender to feed them to a bigger
predator animal that doesn't need them, probably blended. I don't know.
We used to lock them away or they just weren't.
We were wary of those people. And when we look
at President Trump, I will say, like, you have a
guy that ran a university that took people's money and
then didn't pay them back when the university folded, that
changed laws, evaded tag is accused of sexual crimes, did
all these things that we would say most of the time,
if that was somebody in your circle, you would go
not going to be friends with that guy anymore, or
not going to hang out with that person anymore, or
if you know, like you would be in Christian that
somebody I would just sort of avoid. If this list
of things is done, so I think we're we have
a problem with the messenger. If Trump's going to be
the person to carry out things, it's the messenger. Because
if you go back and you look at things, and
we look at something like immigration, we've had people on
the Democratic side of the aisle say the exact same
things Trump is saying right now. Having illegals that cause problems,
we will pick them up to port them out of cities.
You can find Democratic candidates for president and other offices
saying the same thing. But now that when Trump says it,
we get upset because he doesn't fit the mold of
what we like. He doesn't and he doesn't align with
I mean, I know that the evangelical, but he doesn't
align with Christian values. He doesn't. I don't care what
he say. He does not, he does not, and so
and and as a person, I think there's a lot
of people that go that cringe because you go, oh
my god, what is this? And I will tell you,
like in the beginning, when he first ran, I didn't
think he was ever gonna win. And I remember why
we thought it was a joke. Like I don't know
that I thought it was necessarily a joke. But when
I saw him, I go, wait, you can do that
where he's just calling names of people and he's doing stuff.
But at the same time, we don't know what's happening
in there. That's why I try to say to everybody,
please give it a chance here because I don't know
what's happening. I don't I'm not. I don't know. I
wouldn't know if it was the Democrats, I wouldn't know.
But do we know that he pulled back all this
money on purpose with grants or was it done to say, hey, look, guys,
put a halt on this for forty eight hours. We
don't know. I wasn't there, and I don't hundred days yet.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that there aren't going to be
things that maybe you won't agree with, But there are
things that I think that most people would agree with.
But we don't like the messenger. And I'm going to
tell you the messenger. You're right, he's got some flaws. Well,
here's a great example. Okay, other people hit their flaws.
Speaker 2: Which president has deported more illegals or i'm sorry, undocumented
aliens than any other president in history? And nobody bothered
to mention it. It was Obama three point two million.
They called him the deporter in chief. But when he
did it, it was okay, it was Trump does it.
It's it's and that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It was swept under and it's the way, but it's
the way he says it. You know, it's the same thing.
You can say the same thing, because he was.
Speaker 2: More diplomatic about his parents and everything, whereas Trump's just
doesn't give a crap. Well, at the end of the day,
the results were the same. Both were like good ideas.
Speaker 1: We could say that the results are probably the same.
I would think that, or the attention is the same
the messenger, and that's where I go. So when people
get all angry about he's okay, well, hang on a second.
If you had all these characteristics in a person, and
when I put it in front of you, you're gonna
go never fucking put that guy in office. But we did.
And that's the other part of it. Why are you
gonna go screaming and yelling about something that you can't
change and get your blood pressure raised up and make
everything worse.
Speaker 2: I think we one thing that is, like we said,
like Lunar New Year, it's the year of the Snake
and it's twenty twenty five. I would I would take
like I think a step back is a great way
to start, or maybe even name this podcast to be
the theme for the year. Yeah, Like I have taken
two days after this bill's lost to really think about
it and let the swelling come down. So we could
actually objectively. We'll get to this later, but no, My
point is. My point is though. My point is, though,
is that we have to stop just reacting immediately to
social media, which, by the way, ninety percent.
Speaker 1: Of the time is it e the right. I'm gonna
I'm gonna change your phrase, okay, because I believe this
your knee jerk reaction that every person has. If you're
if you're really gonna analyze it, try to really look
at this in more of a i'll say, as close
to a faux scientific way as you can. Everybody's knee
jerk reaction is a programmed reaction. Yes, it is how
we were taught to react to certain situations. It may
not be the same situation, but we saw our parents
do it. We're told this wasn't okay. That's how they exploded.
I'm gonna get pissed off, Bubba. That to me is
the wrong reaction probably one hundred percent of the time.
And that my thing of take a step back is
something that I've realized as I've gotten older and more
in parenting, to be quite honest with you, because my
gut reaction, like a you know, I had a tough
conversation with my kid the other week. He was very
upset about something and he said something and I know
I could feel the need jerk reaction come up, like
I got to hear and I just swallowed it and
I just said, I'm listening. Yep, buddy, I'm listening to
what you're saying. And I want you to know you're heard,
because it was more of an emotional thing than it
was in reality. But what we do is we react,
and that's how we're conditioned as human beings. We are
once we get on the planet and we're taught how
to do this. And I think that yes, if you
take a step back and just wait and see or
try to look a little deeper or be a little
more honest. You know, a lot of times when we
don't like somebody, they there's nothing they can do that
we're going to ever like them again. Would that be fair? Sure? Yeah?
I think. I mean, just take that on your own
personal relationships. And so that's why I say take a
step back. I love that you took a step back
with the bill. How do you take a step back
with the bills? What do you get?
Speaker 2: Because we have to really like sit down, and like
I sat down to write last last two nights. Yes,
I wrote for the Times.
Speaker 1: We can.
Speaker 2: I try to write my articles as early in the
week as possible so that way I have the rest
of the week to like edit and revise and change.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting down and it gives you time to
really think it through too at Monday, so that Monday
Peter goes. I'd love to read your Peter Montemurno, whom
we'll have on later, he's been on this show. He
asked me, because I love.
Speaker 2: To read your column, buddy, I go, you know what,
I don't even know what I want to say yet,
because I've written down.
Speaker 1: Did I scratched it? Written and scratched it? What did
you write? Scratch? I really rom a Bill's perspective. Well,
it was just like a bunch of ideas. It wasn't
just like a column yet.
Speaker 2: It's for the first time in ten years I actually like, okay,
I didn't just like stream of conscious right into a
column and.
Speaker 1: It just ends up becoming a painting. It was like,
what do you want to say that hasn't been said
or will be said? Or whiz predictable?
Speaker 2: And after about twenty four hours I sat down and
thought to myself, Okay, give you a little preview here.
The Buffalo Bills are the guy at the blackjack table,
and the Kansas City Chiefs are the dealer, and you're
going or the NFL really is the dealer, okay. And
the Bills keep for the first time, and since the
since the Kelly years, keep hitting nineteen, twenty, eighteen, twenty
not twenty one nineteen like close. You never hit on
eighteen or nineteen unless you're really feeling like you know.
And the NFL keeps hitting twenty one, twenty one, twenty one,
twenty one. And the idea is everybody wants McDermott out.
Everybody does, not everybody, but a lot of people do.
Speaker 1: And that's the change.
Speaker 2: Even like Diana Russini, who's connected to everybody, is talking
on the athletics saying there's talk that he may be
out now, Greg Connors, we all know that's not the case.
McDermott's not going anywhere. And you know what, I'm not
a fan of his, but nor should he.
Speaker 1: Every Time a coach like McDermot, whether it was Marty
Schottenheimer or a Chuck Knox or somebody of that, ilk
leaves an organization.
Speaker 2: Like, let's say McDermot would leave today if he got fired.
It always implodes, it always gets worse. Don't give me
Jim Moore in Indianapolis with Peyton Manny because that team
wasn't even the playoffs, they had to fire him. This
team has consistently gotten there. So there's one of three reasons.
Speaker 1: One mcdermot's a hell of a coach Monday through Saturday
and builds his guys up, but on Sunday they win.
They just don't always win when we need them to,
Like against two guys Mahomes or Burrow.
Speaker 2: Two, it's all Josh Allen or three, it's both of them,
and we just need to just go along with it
because one of these times we're gonna we're gonna get through.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'll ask you this because I think that
everybody at some point, as a fan of a sport
has had a problem with a ref right. And so
the big thing is, I think there's even an articles
written about how favorable are the refs to the to
the Kansas Adam Schefter talked about it.
Speaker 2: He tweeted it out Sunday morning and got a lot
of flak from Nick Right about it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because they go, everyone can complain, right, example
one a the Bill's fourth down at Sunday's AFC Champion game.
But there's a full on mob in my mind that
is searching for the missing clue that links the Refs
and the Kansas City Chiefs together in some sort of way.
But a Bill's fan posted on x tailgate beers that line.
Judge Patrick Holt, who spotted the ball shorter than the
line on Sunday, supports the Ravens for more than a decade,
and along he found photos and allegedly indicated that he
and his family of ties to Kansas City, and then
he wrote line. Judge Patrick Holt, who made the awful
decision for Dalton Kincaid and Josh Allen in the Buffalo
Chiefs game, is a certified Ravens fan who also has
family ties to Kansas City. Shocker. Now, the thing is like,
to me, I can't tell if this is a good
thing or a bad thing for the NFL. And I
mean that in the NFL is getting talked about at nauseum.
Articles are being written at nauseum. That's great, mark, right,
and you want to tune in. I don't know, but
it makes me wonder will the NFL make rule changes?
And when I say rule changes, there's already a chip
in the ball, but it's four next gen stats. But
is there a way? I mean, look, we use some
kind of ball determining where the ball is in tennis,
whether they have some kind of electronics that does it.
So is that is that worth doing? Or here's the thing.
How long before the push tush is outlawed? And I'm
saying that because Philadelphia Buffalo's the only team that couldn't
do it, Well, everybody does it. It's boring, it's a scrum,
it's not exciting, and it's you know what I'm saying,
not to go not to go off. But that's not true.
The Bills were actually the most efficient team in the NFL.
It they didn't do it this week. So they did
they did it early and it worked. But and on
that play it worked, well, we think it worked.
Speaker 2: And last week when they didn't run it on third down,
and now it looks like it's why don't you Well.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you get people saying, I'm never
gonna watch Dave Pornoy, I'm never gonna watch it. Okay,
we know that's PS. We know that's PS. But you
do have uh, Dean Blandino, who used to be the
rules guy, his brother saying to him, uh, it's chief favoritism.
And he says, and he says it was quoted in
the New York Post. He says, uh, uh, let's see
my brother, Dean laneu even noting how his brother believes
the NFL made calls to ensure Taylor Swift attended the
Super Bowl, and then he says, quote, the chiefs have
gotten the benefit of calls, but good teams make their
own breaks. You think about the Patriots. Plandino said. Now
he's retired, but he used to be the rules are
he's the rules are of the UFL. Now, okay, my brother,
who is convinced that the league is rigged, that is
convinced that I signed a non disclosure agreement when I
left the league office. That's what his brother believes. He
said that, uh, that I cannot tell anybody that is
rigged because I was head of officiating. We grew up
in the same household. By the way, I said, listen,
there's no conspiracy the officials. There's too many variables, there's
too much going on to me, it's the hardest sport.
When you think about football, with seven different officials to say, okay,
I'm going to rig this game. Where the game is
rigged from the league, off is down, the officials are
just trying to get it right. I would say I
think football is the hardest game to fix.
Speaker 2: It is the hardest game to fix. Bill Burr went
on the comic Bill Burr, and he's gotten a little
weird lately, but he went on Rich Eisen.
Speaker 1: Show, I don't think the game is fixed. I think
it's massaged. Okay.
Speaker 2: And now when you put it that way, okay, it's
like if there's a certain call. Remember like when the
Bills lost to the Texans in twenty nineteen, the opening
kickoff of the second half, the kid from the Texans
catches the ball and he flips it to the official.
The official just backs off. Bills recovered the ball in
the end zone. That's a touchdown, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Somebody in a black jacket and a referees outfit came
over and said, no, we're not doing this.
Speaker 1: You're gonna give the ball to the text. He surrendered
the ball. No he didn't.
Speaker 2: He Yeah, he surrendered the ball. But that wasn't you
got to take a knee. That's in the rule book.
You have to take a knee if you're going to
surrender yourself. He just flipped the ball on the ref
The Bills recovered that was a touch that went been
twenty three to nothing. Why because they wanted to make
it a game and the Texans eventually won. Now, if
you if you don't like this, first of all, Blandino
is part of the UFL. Now, yeah, they show him
reviewing the calls live on television. If you watch a
u or an NEXTFL game, it's now the UFLF. You
watch a UFL game, Blandino is, Okay, here's what.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do.
Speaker 2: So here's what we have, and he actually goes over
the play and makes the call in the booth for
the officials, and Mike Florio for Pro Football Talk is
saying the NFL needs to do that or else we're
always going to have this suspicion.
Speaker 1: Why don't you just do that? Why don't you just
make everything on the up and up? They don't want
to do it. Why don't they want to do it?
One they're cheap, and two maybe the game is massage Billy.
Maybe it may well make could be I mean to
happen if the Bills get that and they go down
the field score now it's an eight point game. Yes,
well that was exactly it. I think a lot of.
Speaker 2: People became a six point game the other direction.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if putting technology in is a
good thing or a bad thing, because look at what
the human factor of this is. Right. We have had
debates for week, you know what I mean, And so
I go, maybe it's a mistake for the NFL to
try to do that. I could see outlawing a pushtush.
I could see making that illegal. I really could, because
it almost makes it.
Speaker 2: I could see them doing that too. But the fact
that teams have stopped it tells it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I won't. It won't because of
exactly what happened here, and they won't. But I as
it goes on and if you get a little better
at it. The only thing I will add to this
a sort of off note. Will take a quick break, Uh,
but Peter will be back on in about a half
hour or two. You could get misery. You can commiserate
with him.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles going to the Super Bowl two school
districts in New Jersey have had a delayed opening the
day after the Super Bowl. Take no, Buffalo, take no,
You're gonna get there someday. I truly believe that have
a delay, have a delayed opening at least, if not
closed for the fucking day, just call it a snow day. Well,
I thought that was really cool. You know what, that
makes sense. It is cool. But here's the thing though,
they usually like the parade is on a Tuesday. Yes,
why don't you just get like, why don't just give
those two days, like, you know, two days off. You
could give them two days off if if you win,
if you win, but so we don't know, and it
has to be pre planned. So I like the two
hour delay, right, get up a little bit, you know
you'll be up late if no matter what, then you
gotta get their kids to school and the parents are
going off the work. I mean, how do you can
but plant if that's why you got to schedule it
and plan it out right, catch you our central schools
at a two hour delay, the Buffalo bills and going
to the super Bowl, plan it out right, and you
got two weeks playing the New Ork You get a
whole and then and then if there is a parade
and you can't get through because the parade is gonna
be downtown Buffalo. Is that exactly when the buses would
be leaving school or whatever? Then you go, we're shutting
down for the day. Yeah, you know what I mean.
And that makes sense. It may make sense to me,
makes sense. I think that should happen. All right, we'll
take a moment designed by geniuses. I'd like to start
a new segment called by Geniuses run by idiots. Okay,
that may be a better intro because I was gonna
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Speaker 5: Mony body's gone trial, just for laughing at the joke,
just for saying of the bargain what any sales girl
already known. Most of us sort men die with firing line,
just waiting from the number to be calm. I guess
time just speaks.
Speaker 6: Oh Danny, it certainly does now. Yeah, like you live
and you learn, right, absolutely, that's the whole point. You
don't know it all until you're dead.
Speaker 1: That may be true too, And even then.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: You're always You're always looking back going no, whoops, could.
Speaker 1: Have, should have? Would have? Yeah. I I want to
start a thing with designed by geniuses, run by idiots. Zaba,
geniuses run by idiots. I got, I got a massage. Yeah,
but I like the idea like that actually better because
I want to send out some new There's a lot
of things in my head, you know, liter New Year.
I had some time to think, but I've been running
around doing a bunch of different things. But I saw
this story and I didn't believe it at first, and
then I saw it in multiple places and I went, Okay,
it's so, this is where we're at, this is the
world we're at right now, and well we can break
down the personal stuff with the story afterward. But a
young woman has pleaded guilty to harassment in the United Kingdom,
which I would say still part of the Western world, right, yeah, yeah,
but modern day first cyber farting case. We read that again.
A young woman has pleaded guilty to harassment in the
United Kingdom's first cyber farting case. This is amazing. Now,
when I say the world is designed by geniuses, the
fact that we can have a cyber farting case shows
you that geniuses have designed it. Idiots are using it
or running it. Okay, she bombarded. Here's the I'll give
you the long and the short of it. Apparently she's
involved with a guy. It's her boyfriend. I don't know
if they live together or not. Who is going through
either a contentious divorce or a custody case. I don't
know if you ever married this other woman. It got
so ugly, this woman. I can't wow, I can't. Yeah,
can read it to you, and I'm gonna read it.
Speaker 2: I can imagine the gap between the genius and the idiot,
and this story maybe as far as the east from
the west.
Speaker 1: The way you're laughing about this, Oh but Danny, it's
so dumb. It's so dumb. Imagine you're a magistrate in
the United Kingdom court and you have to hear this thing.
She sent three videos of herself letting it rip on
December twenty second, followed by another four of the same
nature the next few days. Now, this is a woman
I will say that truly loves her. Man. I just
caught myself on the camera my hair I did. Somebody
made fun of me. I think it was Kevin's buddy.
This is calling it. I have Jimmy neutron hair. Do
you know Jimmy neutron is But they got all blown
when I was walking on Kevin's buddy with the teeth,
without the teeth. I don't know. Okay, who doesn't have this?
Is there so many just making it all right? So
Evans that she's the woman. Let's say Rihanna Evans, pretty name, Rihanna. No,
that sounds like like you know that sounds like if
I said to you Rihanna Evans, Yes, if you told
me it was deb deb Evans like, oh yeah, I
got it. Karen. If you said, well, no, what names,
what female names would you associate with? Fart like Charmaine?
If you said to sue, sue anyone with a Joe
in front of their name, Joe, Ellen, Bobby, Joe, Bobby,
yeah right, like yeah yeah, because it's kind of like
a mask of remember Joe from Facts of Life.
Speaker 2: I can see Joe for Backs of Life. Okay, you know,
so sorry, Natalie.
Speaker 1: Each video showed Miss Evans passing wind for her her face,
smiling at the cat like with delight fact that this
went to court, that's the part. Everything's going to court,
you know, except the important stuff. Her tuning continued on
Boxing Day, and which is to day after Christmas. I
thought that was just the Canada thing. Oh why on
Boxing Day in New Year's Day? Despite police getting wind
of what had happened five four three two one. In
a victim statement read to the court, miss pri Church,
I don't know. It says that she would like to
feel safe in my home. It's this is cyberbullying in
a way. Was later arrested. Could you imagine getting arrested
what he's in for farting?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: Oh? In England they're getting bad dude. No, but I
can see it happening here. The reason I do this,
Wait a second, Danny farting harassment?
Speaker 3: No, yes.
Speaker 1: If I'm sending constant videos to somebody farting and going, hey, hey,
you know what I think of your ideas, and I
just send it, I barrage you with it, I think
you've got a harassed We talked to a family about
a month ago at Spencer Port who had a daughter
who keeps getting harassed but nobody really does anything about it.
We think we're gonna get like like a I think
they're gonna start making Kate. Yes, I think that will
be the icebreaker. That's a good way to put ability.
It's the icebreaker. Evans was later arrested at her home
and admitted she had sent the videos. The prosecutor said
she wanted to send videos because she felt her partner
was being treated unfairly. So I want you to know
this was motivated by love. This is a story motivated.
This is a woman that you need to keep in
your life because she's doing what she came. She's committed.
She's committed. She's committed, yes, and probably should be committed,
but she kep I could see Jordan Peterson doing the
whole thing about this woman. She's definitely she definitely loves you.
She's going to do that then, yes, she's a keeper.
Somebody says there's some issues going on. You could trust
a woman who farts on your behalf Miss Evans partner
and his ex partner. In regard to child contact, I
would assume child custody. At the time she sent these videos,
she had some drinks. She sent them understanding, you want
to live yourself up a little bit, Well, I would.
Here's the thing I think most people will go, man,
not a good idea, right, not a good idea. Now,
we did send pictures of poop. We would take these
massive ships when we worked and ready you Tommy rich Tommy.
Tommy didn't do it, did he? I think he did?
Tom Yes, it was just a film, but I did.
I didn't do that. Phil. I was like, no, I'm
not Phil. Ship eels, oh guy and he they wrapped
around the ball. If you went in with a loot
and started playing, this ship would have magically come up
out of the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like an idea where they try to get a snake
was a ship charge. Yeah, he could have made like
like that was before YouTube was a thing. He could
have made millions at the time. Since she had some drinks,
she sent them understanding Now this has caused the victims
some distress. She sent them without malicious intent. Now, come on,
come on, how could it be unless she's sending like
doodoo in a box. No, but she's farting and she's
just smiling. And I mean, and you got it? Like,
how how did they not? But how do yes, how
do they not throw it out and just go all right?
Tigl it? Man? They're they're idiot. No, but I could
even see it happening. I'm telling you, I could see
it happening somewhere here. We just had a freaking lunar
New Year Day off. Why do you get upset about that?
I upset about it, But it's like ridiculous it stop.
It's nice. We should be celebrating these things. It's the
new American. I don't need to celebrate somebody else's holiday.
Oh my god, Okay, it's the melting pot. Where do
you think Christmas came from? You have Columbus Day? Oh
we should we had still there the magesty?
Speaker 2: Okay here, No way that worked out for everybody, didn't it.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for what she got? Go ahead, yes,
it did. Fifteen rehabilitation sessions. You gotta sit down with
a shrink. I think yeah, because there's things that's meant
sixty days alcohol abstinence, someone's got a monitoring. Yes, somebody
has to come and two years restraining order. She has
to pay one hundred pounds compensation. I'm not sure. Yeah,
And she has to pay one hundred and ninety nine
dollars or ninety nine pounds to the victim and was
banned from contacting her. A probation officer said she had
been in a relationship for two years and there was
bad blood with her boyfriend's ex partner. She hadn't thought
sending the videos was a criminal offense, and the defendant
questioned why she hadn't been blocked by the victim prior
to peering in courts? Why don't you just block me? Right?
You know you don't even know when someone I think, right,
I've never blocked anybody.
Speaker 2: So I see the lawyers how they argued this case
back in front the prosecutor. Do they put on the
wigs too? And England do they still do that? They
put on the wigs when they had that.
Speaker 1: It was pretty malicious. She was smirking throughout, found of hilarious,
but the victim didn't cyber farting. So there you go.
The world is designed by geniuses to be run by idiots.
That jury, it was this a bench trial. I think
it was a bench far trial, a benchmark trial. That's like,
it was so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Well a little what about those ladies like like like
Tommy would watch these cake fart videos?
Speaker 1: No, is that harassment? I don't think it was Tommy
or like a rich We're like, no, this good looking woman. No,
I think somebody called up and told us and I
went and watched it. Yes, yeah, I know we played it.
Was it Tommy. I didn't think it was Tommy.
Speaker 2: Tommy, you know, like they told us about it, and
you and Tommy, well everybody had to watch them together.
Speaker 1: Tommy thought it was the funniest thing. This woman gets
on like because you know what, I love cake farts. Okay,
I'm gonna look at your cake.
Speaker 2: And then she just pulls her pants that just farting
into a cake.
Speaker 1: Well, and we could stop laughing. It's so ridiculous. There's
still a guy that writes me to this day about that. Yes,
on my birthday two thousand and eight. Every year of
my birthday, he sends me a cake he sends me
a cake fart meme. He does every time. It was
a woman. She was up on a counter. She was
good looking in a bikini. Yeah right, not her bare ass,
but in her bikini gets down on like one of
those not an intimate scake, which would be really good.
They they missed the boat on this. No, seriously, you
get one of the ones. Remember, I don't know in
Silver Creek they did this in your school, But they
used to put powdered sugar on the brownies they would serve.
And I used to take it and I would go
up to somebody and I would and I would blow
it so it would go in their face. Now, if
you had a cake with that on it and she farted,
how fucking great? How funny is that? But this was
chocolate icing on like a yellow cake, like a pound
cake or something with chocolate icing, and she would bury
her ash in there and she'd just rip afart, and
I think they fu I kind of fucked, yeah, I
kind of. Yeah. It would bubble up, it would bubble up. Oh.
Here it is the story of cake farts, not say
real crazy technology cake farts tails from the internet. Let
me just see. Yeah, now, let me just see, because
this may be one of those back in the day
blah blah blah. But this would have been got almost
fifteen years ago. Right.
Speaker 9: Once upon a time in twelfth century England, there lived
a man named Roland. Roland, a court jester, was one
of the most beloved subjects of King Henry the Second,
so much so that he was given thirty acres of
land and ownership of Hemingstone.
Speaker 4: Men, don't let's see if you can find the world
cakes drunk history. I'm trying to find cake farts. They
give us the story in cake fartsh.
Speaker 9: Here we go, how to trace it back? I think
it dates back in Sis circa nineteen ninety. I was
at a motel room in Florida when I came across
an aging fifty plus actress sitting stark naked on a
bed in vogue.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 9: She looked gorgeous. Yes, I do find so mature women
really attractive. My mind started wandering, and I was a
presidence of her. Assistant point tricks on her.
Speaker 1: She lets it go all over the cake, assuming she
was alone and no one would notice. Of course she
didn't know, all right, I don't know. It's ridiculous but
there used to be find cake farts and I don't
know where we found it, probably on you two somewhere. Well,
YouTube got rid of that. Everything's tightened down now. People, Oh,
they don't.
Speaker 2: Want you to swear on YouTube. They'll they'll like they
they'll throw strikes against you and stuff. I guess they
wanted to keep it as clean as possible. Well, like, okay,
it's because people are not watching it like it's television,
but they want to have like some type of civility
to it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, that's that's that's that's hilarious. Have
you ever tried to get revenge on somebody? Did you ever?
I don't know that I would. Uh, I've never I've
never been a ventul person. I just don't have the
ambition to do it. Yeah, but will you ever get
in an argument somebody and they hang up? So you
call back? And I think I've called back like a
bunch of times, and I left, the milk gives some message,
No left, no message whatsoever, but just left. And now
I don't do anything at all. But I don't. I
can't imagine filming myself far. And here's the thing, does
her boyfriend even know there's a chance that the guy
doesn't even know unless the ex could you tell your
girlfriend to stop sending me videos of her farting? I
think at one point, if I read this article, right,
how do you not laugh at that? If you're the
recipient of it? Like, how do you just not laugh
that off? Okay? Here it is, Prosecutor Diane Williams told magistrates,
imagine this, so I don't know how the court works.
So there's a number of.
Speaker 2: Magistrates I imagine are the people wearing the wigs in
the room, but those are the judges.
Speaker 1: People, but plural, Okay, magistrates that in the first video,
she proceeds to pass gas by placing the camera on
her bottom and that's take that. Take that. Oh we
have it so good, don't we. Well we have it
so saying like but that what a way to get
and they go, that's she's said to have mental health problems.
I don't know how she has mental health problems. She
was trying to be a good girlfriend.
Speaker 2: That's that's Loyal's that's loyal, putting the tea in loyalty
and oh.
Speaker 1: What a country, what a world? Huh, well, this is
the world we live in. That Dan I'm just telling
you it is other better things to do for revenge
that much more dangerous. Well, I don't know, yeah, like,
why would you want to even get involved? I engage? Yeah, well,
it's it's a minor thing. Have you ever like I
tried to like.
Speaker 2: This sounds like the guy who like showed up at
somebody's house last week that we talked about with the
devil mask and the sign. It's like that to me
is like way scarier than sitting fart videos the fart smile.
Speaker 1: And this woman said I think she she was trying
to just play a little prank and be funny. You know,
she probably didn't say anything. She didn't say at least
they're not saying she's anything. Okay, eat my ass right?
And did the court take this series? I don't know
get how did that crack up? When this is somebody
actually wasted the money to have this case. Yes, there
you go. We'll take a moment. Peter Montemerno will join
us to commiserate with Dan about the bills. I felt
you too, you were I was upset at the time
because it felt, you know, bad, But then I thought,
I don't know. I mean, here we go with the
same premise as ever, well there's always next season. Well,
we don't know what next season has. And Josh Allen
has never missed, right, has been maybe out a little
bit for an injury, like.
Speaker 2: Two games, I believe his rookie season, he had his
elbow almost ripped out of his socket.
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's it. You know. Patrick Mahomes only
missed a couple of games, like.
Speaker 2: The guys like far I mean, there's very it's very
rare that a quarterback doesn't miss extensive time.
Speaker 1: Elway didn't miss extensive time.
Speaker 2: Far of like didn't miss a game until Arthur Motes
basically destroyed him for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: But every other quarterback Manning missed the entire season. Brady
missed in essence an entire season. That happens.
Speaker 2: And when you lose your quarterback, we would know Rogers
has done it several times. So when you lose that quarterback,
you're screwed, man, right, You're absolutely screwed.
Speaker 1: The Bills would be screwed. Yes, that is putting a
mile so of the Chiefs. And by the way, if
the Chiefs ever lost homes of the Bills won the
Super Bowl. People like well, see, that's exactly what exactly
right they and that's gonna be that's, you know, Josh's
biggest nemesis, you know. I mean he came out in
that game, wyoming Josh. It wasn't the cool calm collected
of twenty twenty four Josh that we've seen all He
almost turned the ball over five different games, and then
he turned into cool com collected Josh that we've seen
since twenty twenty four. And then he ended with a
pass that depending on the angle and I don't know
it could have caught it. It could have, but but didn't.
Speaker 2: Put this way where we are, We've had a lot
of butts. We always say, but what if we're out
of those? We can't because what if he caught it? Okay,
does that necessarily mean that they would have went down
to score? Because hey, what if we got kiansas city
at home?
Speaker 1: We couldn't do that? Oh what if we didn't? Oh
we did? We did it? They what if thirteen seconds?
Oh the next one?
Speaker 2: You mean, there's so many what ifs with this team.
We can't say what if anymore. We just have to
go and finish.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do. I am going to
find that line Judge's phone number, docs them no, and
I'm gonna do video. I'm going to fart in my
phone and Jay just send them NonStop videos going Hey,
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These smells from behind from the air we swallow and
don't food that meat when we eat food to just
digest it into our intestitans. It just breaking down. You
know why I will never go. There's a place I
really want to go to. It's called the stretch Lab.
Stretch Lab. I'm sorry, the stretch Lab, Billy. I'm getting
texts at the same time. I apologize. I heard a
ding and then it's like, add the stretch Lab is
a place you can go to and they they'll stretch out,
and I'm always afraid that they'll stretch in a certain
way and I'll fart And I'm not kidding. That's why
I haven't gone. Because I had an opportunity to go,
and before they were opening, it was like a complimentary
thing through the gym that I was working at and
they're like, yeah, you can go get stretched, and I go, Like,
I get up in the morning and I've been doing
I was doing these stretches for beginnings. Now I'm doing
like this pilate stretching thing because I want to try
it just to see. And I got into a position
this morning and I was like a fart. It was
like thunder, and I went, could you imagine being on
the table and having someone stretch yet, I mean, they
have to hear it all the time, and the thunder
has to happen all the time.
Speaker 2: When I I was a TV reporter briefly for Channel
thirteen back in two thousand and seven, I was filling
in for Darren Mark. Actually Dernmark had left and they
took turns in to had me on and I went
to a pilates place and they put me in pilates
like clothes and stuff, and they stretched me out. Well,
there's vinyl on the on the table, it's a final table.
Speaker 1: So I scooed, you scooted a little bit and it
makes yeah like like they sound like right. I didn't fight,
I think think anything of it.
Speaker 2: She didn't think anything of it because they hear it
so often, right, But I wasn't farting or anything.
Speaker 1: I just bove. So I throw it back to normal Holland.
Speaker 2: Back at the anchor desk, and she's cracking up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't figure out why. And then I
find out later, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you farted, I go, I didn't fart. They go,
you didn't they go now, But they thought everybody the
newsroom thought that I you know, it was passing gas
on the table. It was I just I just adjusted.
But the pants were like slick, and it just made
that noise.
Speaker 1: What do you what are you gonna do? You can't
do anything, nor doesn't all But I mean there's well,
that's where you know, my dad's been a little I
think upset lately. His cousin passed away and they didn't
have any formal services.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's so you can't say goodbye nothing. There's
no morning processing.
Speaker 1: And I think there was an odd thing like he
grew up. She was two years younger than him. They
you know, they grew up like two streets across from
each other. And she's the one whose house we're at.
And she gave us the money, and she brought us
to the mall that had Spencer's where I bought the
fart powder and then put it in my dad's coffee
while at her house. Well, her kids don't talk to her.
I don't know why exactly. Still I still talk to
the kids. She would often say to me, how she
you know, what's going on with my son? Blah blah, blah.
I've been trying to get a hold of him or
she would show up where he worked at a restaurant
in Dallas, And you know, I think once he snuck
out the back. I'm still kind of close with him.
We talk on a regular basis, but I won't tell
him that his mother's died. And that was what That's
what the text is going back and forth just now.
Because my father's so upset about this, he will I
can't imagine that they don't even know where mother do
they know where to the mother's dead. I go, it's
not my business to go tell them. I'm not getting him. Hey, listen,
you tell your mod died not doing a couple of
weeks ago. I'm not doing that. But I was the
fart powder the reason, just so you could know that
I may be add but the trade of thought was
fart fart powder that I put in my dad's coffee
when I was fifteen, and he wound up farting all
day long. But was not anywhere that I got to
witness it. He was in a court in South Carolina
with his cousin's husband, who was a neurologist, testifying in
a child abuse case. Right over the George border.
Speaker 2: See, I don't know which direction to go now because
I have I have stories about parents who don't and
their kids who don't talk.
Speaker 1: I also have a story of about this fiber that
I've been taking. I'm a witch direction. Wait, why are
you taking fiber? Is it helping? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, but when you switch fibers, your body needs to adjust.
Yesterday I felt like I've took the morning after pill.
I don't know what that feels like, but I can
imagine what it feels like, because ma'am.
Speaker 1: I still there. It's contracting. My wife's like, what is
going on over there?
Speaker 2: Like you could hear me two rooms over just yeah, yeah,
because it's like they're just it's a lot of fiber,
you know, just two scoops, three glasses of water, you know,
just I'm not doing it all at once, but like
you know, over time, it's like it adds up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, have you cleaned out? Yeah? Kid, there you go. Yeah.
But there's the thing.
Speaker 2: I've always done it, but I just switched brands. I
switched brands of fiber powder. Right, you don't want to
use that like meteme ucil, you don't want to use that.
You don't want to use betterfiber. You want to use
like the Uh.
Speaker 1: Why did you switch?
Speaker 2: Why are you because I found out that the brand
I was using wasn't as healthy as the brand I
switched to. I used that Yuka app that Utah told
me about, And now I scan everything I buy Yuka app,
I don't Yeah, you told me about it. Going with
a carrot. You scan the stuff at the grocery store.
I'll tell you how healthy it is to eat.
Speaker 1: I tell you told me that. No, I told you.
Speaker 2: About think dirty. You told me about Yuka. Uka is
actually easier than think dirty. Okay, and they like the
think dirty. Eventually they like they going to give you
so many UCA is free for the most part. I
scan everything now I buy and this fireh one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: We're good. Yeah, let's use this fiber, honey. And so
you're using it and it's really Yes, it's work. I've
gotten used to it. But yeah, I mean, but you'll
be Yeah, you'll be doing that for a while, all right,
Danny h We're waiting on Peter Montemurno to join us.
But in the meantime, the show has taken a turn. No, well,
a turd you said yes that you had, How did
you text it? Hang on, I want to read the
text verbatim. I don't want to get this wrong. I
want to get the text correct from one Dan Burrillo,
who I always say, text Danny and then it comes
up with somebody else to your pill. Uh. I don't
know if you have any plans to talk tonight. Talk
if any Bills talk tonight. Let me read that again.
I don't know if you plan on any bills talk tonight,
but I have one clear thought I'd like to convey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your clear I kind of alluded to
some of it earlier, but basically, like like with McDermott, right,
this is the guy you're stuck with.
Speaker 1: Could they tighten it up? They need to tighten it up. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: They did to tight up their play calling. They needed
to tighten and tighten up their situational football. Like why
wasn't James Cook on the field in the last nine minutes?
Speaker 1: Why didn't he take the ball?
Speaker 2: Why didn't the run a four minute offense with three
thirty three to go? I mean, you had the you
had you had the scenario. If you asked anybody who
was rooting for the Bills Hey, Bills, get the ball
with three timeouts and three thirty three left down three
with Josh Allen as your quarterback, would you take it? Yeah,
despite everything that happened in the game, of course you
would have taken it.
Speaker 1: And it didn't work out. It didn't work out.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, at the end
of the day, through all of that, right, you can't
just fire your head coach. Who are you gonna replace
him with? Well, Bill Bilichick, Well, okay, that's the obvious one.
But but okay, that's such a that's such a leap.
Speaker 1: Right at the end of the day, I think that.
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of time because you think about
either they're really really well coached and they have a
great team and a great quarterback, or they're not really
well coached and they have a great quarterback. Right, one
of the they've only lost three games or four games
in the in mcdermot's tenure, by more than one.
Speaker 1: What is this clear thought? Because I'm and now it's
gotten less clear. Is this about the coach being fired
or not? Yeah, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 2: It's it's just that you can't really get rid of
him because at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Who are you replacing him with? That's a great question.
You can't. You can.
Speaker 2: At this point, he's got you this far, you got
you gotta just keep going with him.
Speaker 1: I say that it is coaching that's got him that
far because the defense was a bunch of no names.
Lono wasn't even back for a while, and he got them. Yeah,
or the coordinator did, and he's a defensive minded guy
they got They got him now.
Speaker 2: On the flip side, On the flip side of that,
I think Wade Phillips would have come up with the
defense by now that would have defeated Patrick Mahomes or
Joe Burrow at this point, those are the two guys
that the Bills seem to they're not able to beat
in the playoffs. And when your defensive minded head coach
has an amazing quarterback, that's the perfect scenario as far
as the team goes. Because the quarterback has the team
with scoring points, the defensive minded head coach has the
schemes to beat the opponent, and unfortunately, in key moments,
the Bills didn't have that. Kansas City pay played their
best game of the year last Sunday, and the Bills
didn't and they still almost pulled it off.
Speaker 1: So they just need that little like they just got
to tighten.
Speaker 2: Those screws a little bit, whether it's better players on defense,
a better scheme on defense, inventing all offseason ways to
beat Mahomes and Burrow because they're the ones who can't
seem to figure out how to do it. The other thing, too,
I kind of alluded to, was we've gone over every
possible what if scenario and we've lost every single one
of them. So we can't come up with any more
what of scenarios because we've had them all. What if
Kansas City played the Bills at home, we'll beat them that? No,
we had that what if what if Josh Allen gets
the ball with three thirty three left? No, we we
just had that what if?
Speaker 1: What if?
Speaker 2: We can't what if anymore? They just got to finish period.
I thought we went over all the scenarios before Sunday. No,
we had one more and it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: And what if caught the ball? We don't know, because
I think we've went over all these scenarios, right. But
I think the most frustrating thing is that you can
say where the ball was spotted. I don't know, but
everybody Jim Nance, Tony Jean Series, who is you me?
Everyone at Bath thought that it was a first down,
Greg Connors. But again they're not right on the field,
you know, And so oh, I think that's the thing
that sticks in everybody's croub.
Speaker 2: Well, when the officials are meeting at two different spots. Yeah,
that's awfully curious. And they gave it to the guy
who was further away from the ball.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you had the
scenario you wanted, the Lway scenario, the drive scenario, our
hero quarterback.
Speaker 1: With the ball in his hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to win the game, you didn't have to run
a two minute offense. You had three timeouts. You could
have just run a regular offense and gone down and.
Speaker 1: Pack because you figured it out. But what happened.
Speaker 2: Your offensive coordinator had a brain cramp, and your defensive
coordinator brain cramped in the first half, your head coach
had brain cramps. And we just got eliminate these brain cramps.
But you're not gonna get much better coaching. It'd be like,
like I said earlier, it's like hitting on nineteen than
what like what are you gonna do? The Browns got
rid of the Browns and Chiefs both got rid of
Marty Schottenheimer for this same problem, and they both regretted it.
Speaker 1: So this is what it is. I know, I know,
I don't think that. I think they need to bring
a stud receiver. I don't know. Like t Higgins is
the only one of fail and if the Bengals franchise him,
you're not gonna get him. Everybody else is old. All
the free agents are old. If you want Miles Garrett
out of Cleveland, forget it. But I think you need
defensive backs, you do, Yeah, I think the offensive guys
are gonna get You need pass rushers. That's the other thing.
Speaker 2: You haven't had a pass rush in a playoff elimination game.
How is it that Jordan Phillips, the oldest guy in
the defense, managed to get the Mahomes though late that
was a small miracle.
Speaker 1: You can't let it go. You're not gonna let it go.
But the end of the day, I'm resigned to it.
Speaker 2: Like Ryan Fitzpatrick said, oh, the atmosphere in Buffalo is
like a funeral.
Speaker 1: That's sad. It is though, that's pathetic, But isn't it
a little bit? I mean, isn't it not when we
have the expectations in the hope.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 2: Football isn't like the son in our lives where that.
Speaker 1: Is the case? Jesus, it's the sun that Yes, it is.
It is in Buffalo. You're right, it is. Yes. My
wife goes, baby, how you feeling. I'm fine. Yeah, But
I mean, look, it's like that for a lot of
a lot of people.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 1: But bigger cities have more things to do and more people.
And this is who don't give a shit. Oh this
is people's country clubs. Yes, this is their social club,
this is their means of life. Yeah. And when that
new stadium cubs, a lot of those people are going
to be excluded, excluded, but they're still gonna love that team.
Oh yeah, we're all gonna love the team. And that's
gonna be the thing. I love thee Like people are
uni by tickets, I'm like, no, I've about a ticket.
In twenty years. I would love to see if what
happens economically to the city when Buffalo wins the super Bowl.
That's an interesting when they win the Super Bowl, what happened?
Speaker 2: The one thing about Buffalo before they got good. The
city of Buffalo. I don't know if anybody noticed this.
There was a resurgence when Brown mayor Brown became mayor,
the city had a renaissance. Like people started coming to Buffalo.
The airport had a lot to do with it because
now the airport was able to fly anywhere in the country.
Right so now right, So there were people, like a
lot of comics and others like moving to Buffalo because
it was affordable, and yet they could fly anywhere. They
could be anywhere they need to be in a day.
And all of a sudden, the city, the waterfront cleaned up,
and the economy.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go take it, you could go, like.
Speaker 2: In downtown Rochester, what do you have East Alexander in Park,
That's pretty much what you got. You go to Buffalo, man,
there's so many different neighborhoods, you can do stuff like
great Connors even said, if you want a staycation, go
to Buffalo for a few days. They really have it
mapped out. You got Niagara Falls, you got all intown,
you got Cheek the Walk, you got everything there. The
city's really had a research. It's long before the bills,
did it not just imagine if the Bills want a super.
Speaker 1: This is what yeah, right, and and that maybe it
all comes together, Danny, maybe it all comes together. I
don't know if Pete's gonna join us or not. Okay,
he does have a young family. So things, can I know? Things?
You go around? Uh, we'll take a moment when we
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all happy.
Speaker 11: To played a card another seas and bound and drain
leaves us with nothing and blood pain doesn't. Seasons change
and so do dreams. Before Acho silent screen snowfalls, but
down Race Hardy cadged on every face.
Speaker 1: Lasting change, baby, single night, just as.
Speaker 11: Night Sight, Buffalo, Heart Spray one Small's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It is pretty Yeah, here's another version in the Healthy Fats. Wow. Yeah,
there's so many things you like that. I like the
other one a lot I do.
Speaker 2: I like there's a there's a band. I gotta find
the name of it, right. They take every song and
turn it into an alice and change tune and it's amazing.
Speaker 1: They're they're incredible. The dude sounds like Lane Staley. They're fantastic.
I gotta get the name of it, you know, Danny,
I I didn't realize how much I've for years have
been risking my life without knowing it, without knowing tipping
herself on the shower. Is that part of it?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe no. Listen to this story out of Colorado.
Speaker 13: We turned out to a horrifying accident at a high
school track meet in Colorado.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if I paused it there, so
we need to just put the pause effect in. I
think I didn't do another story there.
Speaker 13: It is okay, we turned out to a horrifying accident
at a high school track meet in Colorado.
Speaker 1: Did you run track?
Speaker 7: A Colorado family is in mourning after a tragic accident
at a track meet.
Speaker 1: Now, why are you starting to laugh? Because why for
the other shoe to draw? Okay, well, this isn't the
other shoe. I'm going to tell you watch it was
just horrible for everybody.
Speaker 7: Fifty seven year old Wade Linston was at a field
house in Colorado Springs watching his son when a competitor
in the weight throwing event lost control of a twenty
five pound weight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my son through this for years. And I've watched
those things where somebody loses it, like they slip in
the ring or something and it's indoor, right right, and
it goes and they have this big netting like a
bad stop, but it goes up like I don't know,
fifteen feet. I've seen these kids get them stuck up
at the top. I've seen it go over and around. Yeah, yeah,
and I go but not fool but but the thing
that I had never ever ever thought was someone was
gonna die.
Speaker 7: Like the one scene here the wait flying over a
safety net, striking Linston in the bleachers.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine.
Speaker 2: Oh man, this is not the first time this has
happened either. I've heard I've heard of javelin sitting people.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well they don't do javelin in high school anymore.
Time of college. Okay maybe, but this is a high
school event, my friend, and I know it is at
Colorado Springs, but there were rit House high school events
in their field house Nazareth as well. My friend Tiki
Carlos Fernandez, he was really my friend, but in high
school he was in eighth grade and a better thrower
of the javelin than his older brother. And his brother
was out picking up a javelin and he took one
and just freaking launched it and it landed like right
near his brothers killed men Mountain Lion field House for
medical with him nine.
Speaker 7: He was pronounced dead at the scene. His family says
Langston was a truly wonderful person who brought laughter to
every room he entered. Questions now.
Speaker 1: Except the field house, where he brought tears all.
Speaker 7: Being raised about the safety net. The university that hosted
the meet soot certified barriers, but one athlete tells The
Daily Mail the nets were the lowest he's seen in
this scene.
Speaker 1: Way to go, kid, thanks for squealing years of competing.
Speaker 7: Accidents at track meets are rare, but in September, a
teenager in Australia was critically injured by a hammer throw.
And it's rare, but still it's one killed by in
twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: It was just a complete, utter terrible. You know, if
an act of terrible you know what I filed there before?
The kid that through the through Oh my god. You
never You're never gonna escape that. You never walk up
that day going well, today's day. I either break the
record or kill someone, you know what I mean. There's
no chance that that even happened. Dude, you imagine having
that on your conscience, and it was your teammate parent
father who you probably knew for years. Possibly I killed
your dad, I could you possibly in any way? And
from what I read in an article was that he
what what? No, I'm just imagining it. Yeah, it's horrible. Yeah,
that he went to cover up his wife and other
son so would hit them. Yeah, and took and he
took the blow. Now just think like I you can
figure out the gravitational pull on a twenty five pound
weight depending on the height it was, and what is
it fall? Nine point nine meters per second or nine
point two meters per second? I think, so you can
figure that out, Like that thing is probably coming at
I don't know, forty fifty miles an hour to meteor.
You gotta fucking meteor coming at you. It's like dropping
the penny off the night. Yes, great example. Right, you're
going to jail, Yeah, you're going to records. Well, you
would kill somebody.
Speaker 7: Now an outpouring of support, not only for Wade Linston's family,
but also for the young athlete who lost control of
that weight.
Speaker 3: And he's a good kids and I he's probably just
dying inside right now, and I feel terrible for him.
Speaker 1: You couldn't. I don't even know if you could go
back and do the event if you're the kid. And
if you do, is there a bunch of people, what,
let's se.
Speaker 2: People give him a standing ovation when he heads out
he just.
Speaker 1: Walks out there, or what if they have you know
how like sometimes they'll pause a game in Major League
Baseball or something to present somebody with the most stolen bases,
and they come out Ricky Henderson, who's now dead himself,
gets the base or whatever it was. Could you imagine
if like they get the kids walking out there and
they start clapping, and out walks the wife of the
man that you killed, and you know she's supposed to
hug in and across the face, that's your phone. The
thing is just it's unbelievable. I would have never thought that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's terrible. Do they get the name of
the kid that threw it today?
Speaker 12: Did they?
Speaker 2: I mean they because he's probably yeah, they mean, yeah
it was a high school event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's just terrible.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, you know that once in a great while
something like that happens. I mean, like I remember we
talked to Dan Mason in baseball when uh I forgot
what it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a It first happened in hockey, then it
happened in baseball, and they said, okay, we need to
fix this. And I always wondered for years why they
didn't have nets along the dugout in baseball. Somebody got
somebody got smacked in the face, almost got killed, and
so major League Baseball made it put in a mandate,
and the miners did to do it too, where.
Speaker 1: They put you know, netting around the the dugouts and everything.
So and it doesn't really take you don't even see it.
You kind of don't when you're watching. It happened in
a Florida Pantings game in hockey, and like oh five
or something, that girl got killed because the fuck went
up there. But oh my gosh, yeah, I mean like
it's like, but here's the thing. It's high school budgets
aren't great, you know. So you think you're doing all
the right parameters. You know, you're doing all the right things,
and then all it takes is one kid to lose
the hammer throw or whatever it is. Damn it, John,
I told you to hold on to that thing. Yeah,
that's the other thing too. What like like what like
does the coach or a parent, what do you say?
What do you say to this kid? Let's go back
and look at the tape. Let's see where you went wrong.
Call Shortan Shordan, how would you have got it? Oh
my god, I'll see him. Uh, it's his birthday and tomorrow.
Oh no, kid, yeah, excise me what twenty two twenty
three three? Wow? The big two three? Uh. I saw
this in the Times Wayne County. I only bring it
up because I've never heard of this before. But a
forty nine year old guy named James Willie Junior was
pulled over at three ten pm. James Willie Junior. Yeah,
James Willey Junior and Elmira sounds like an outlaw name, yes,
James Willie. James Willy Junior. Yeah, that's funny. I don't
know that I've ever heard of Willy as the last name.
Oh I have, I grew I went to school with
a cup where she did. Of course he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kid, Toby Willy. I didn't really know him. So
he's married to a woman who's who's like one of
the founders of the Bills Mafia as a matter.
Speaker 1: Of fact, Okay, Leslie Willie, Yeah, the Willy's in Silver Creek. Hmm,
come on, you get really Uh he's now my He's
found to be intoxicated by alcohol and drugs. Okay. His
BAC was point zero two percent, which point zero eight
is zero two is like trick and cough syrup. Right, well,
it's it could be could be yeah, yeah, I could
say that, you could be. A d R E was
called in and confirmed James was indeed intoxicated by intoxicated
by cannabis. He said, intoxipated because the word isn't there
the way it's written is a d R was called
in and confirmed James was indeed by cannabis. They leave
a word out. It's the Times, Wayne County, a rush
a sports columns. People love that sports columnist. He was
released on an appearance ticket d w A. I okay,
a d R E. Do you know what a d
R E is? Driving? No? No drug recognition expert, drug
recognition expert. Oh yeah, he's stone. This is what I
was thinking as I go, what do you do?
Speaker 2: I need a drug recognition It was definitely Panama red if.
Speaker 1: Dave, for people who don't know, was a was a
gentleman who likes cannabis. Yes, free years responsibly. Dave was
always responsible with that stuff. Mid days and sometimes we'd
take a nap. He always you know, he's voice track
and won't try you just hit a big Dave.
Speaker 2: Okay I never did, but he was always I always
said if I ever did it was always being first
with Kano.
Speaker 1: I remember walking into the studio. I thought he left
and he would voicetrack his show because you could do
that with technology, so pre record and what you're hearing
on the radio was already recorded. Were about geniuses earlier. Yeah,
and he was taking a nap on the couch to
the have the newspaper over to like a blanket keep
warm because we could never get that. We could never
get the thermostat right in that room. Oh god, in
the winter. That was so bad. It was so bad
because it was connected to top George's studio and if
you adjusted that thing and Todd, was it a bad mood? Yeah.
So I never knew what a dr I did a
drug recognition expert, which I'd like to bring a Dawn point. Well,
I'd like to h Officer or Deputy Hurley from the
Monroe County Shriff's Department on just to say, couldn't we
all be a drug recognition expert? I mean I couldn't.
I couldn't. What do you mean you fucking couldn't. I
could walk through somewhere you could smell it. Oh yeah, yeah,
maybe not coming.
Speaker 2: You and I actually you and I recognize it. We
were somewhere recently, yes, and we could smell it. But
that's but that's obvious. Like my brother goes, what said,
He goes, you didn't like, Oh, no, you told me
about a friend of ours. He goes, you didn't know
that guy was a stoner by looking at him and go, no, Danny, No,
I'm not going to say who it is because he's
a professional.
Speaker 1: Wait, you're like, you didn't know that. No, Oh, I
didn't know that. I had no idea. Yeah, but like
I can't because I never smoked it. I never realized
what it looked like like.
Speaker 2: You could tell if a heroin acts guy, because he
usually passed out and foaming at the mouth. He's got
probably a needle in his arm or a tournique, yeah,
or he's got marks on his arm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could tell that now, Coquette, I don't know.
I have no idea. I have no idea what those
look like. But get pretty much figured out. Yeah, but
if you take it a gummy though, that's the thing
you can't that I don't know. And what if a
drug recognition expert, somebody who's really tired cognitive skills do
slow down? Eyes can get bloodshot. Yeah, like eating a
gummy no odor no nothing, Yeah, yeah, I don't know
commercial for it to be no odor recognition expert. What
what what kind of training goes into drug added Are
you like the Frank abog Nail of drugs? Yes, yes, yeah,
we brought in Jerry Garcia to uh to b R
d R E. Oh yeah, that guy's definitely known. I've
heard of DWI. I've heard of d w AI. I've
heard of that, d ui a ui. I've never heard
the term ow I.
Speaker 2: Operating wild operating while intoxic kids, you know so well,
remember like we found about out of our people like
down south who got busted for d w i's on
like a motorized cooler.
Speaker 1: Do you remember this? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah that would
be I would I think that would or a tractor maybe,
well that would sound like because you're not driving a car,
but you are operating machinery. Well, this guy got an
ow I and he was oh.
Speaker 3: Guns driver arrested in Heartlands telling us that they were
scared for their safety riding home from school this afternoon.
Megan Lee joining us Live now from Heartland and Megan
police just sent out in information on why this driver
is now behind bars tonight.
Speaker 12: Yes, hnon, that driver is behind bar tonight. It's a
seventy seventy two year old man. Police tell us he's
facing charges of operating well intoxicated and degree recklessly.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm going to play a little bit more
of this story. And I think that we were I
don't know, but I'll give you my assessment on things,
and you tell me if I'm wrong. I think there'd
be a lot of people who may say I am wrong,
but I don't think I am. I never think of safety.
Speaker 12: Taken off the bus and then that driver continued to
drive on and that's when they made it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how the kids were taking off the
bus like he missed Apparently he missed like the First
States stop, which we laugh. But I mean, I gotta
tell you that if that were my kid on there,
I'd be fucking pissed. Oh dude, I believe you know
what I mean. You gotta be right the.
Speaker 12: Traffic stop and to speak with the bus driver again.
A seventy two year old man from Heartland is behind
bars tonight. I sat down with two students who were
on that bus today and they said it was a
very scary incident.
Speaker 1: These are the kids of the bus.
Speaker 12: Maryland Lakeside students. As they got off the bus this afternoon.
Speaker 8: We were scaring stop the bus, stop, the bus.
Speaker 1: Stop the bus.
Speaker 12: Something didn't feel right on the bus ride home for
eighth graders Jakora Reeves and Curlin Alvarez.
Speaker 8: I was scared because he didn't stop at any of
the first few stops, and I was scared that the
other kids weren't.
Speaker 12: Going to get to go home.
Speaker 10: And that's not all he were just like getting mad
over and little stuff.
Speaker 12: Jacora called nine to one one when she noticed something
was off with the route.
Speaker 10: Apparently didn't have the last.
Speaker 12: Uses Dausman Transportation Incorporated for bussing, the company confirming in
an email to me that they're looking into an incident
from today.
Speaker 8: I was worried about everyone. I'm like, where did my
brother go? And it's this little girlhood or something. Are
all the kids off the bus?
Speaker 12: Jakoura's mom, Janni Shanida, is proud of how the girls
handle Situation's.
Speaker 14: A good job seeing them work together in a way.
They took care of the babies. I was very happy.
Speaker 12: However, she's not happy with the Heartland Lakeside district.
Speaker 14: We should have been notified a step I should have
got a car from the principal. Anybody want me to
let me know what was going on?
Speaker 1: All right? Here, here's here's my thing with these things.
If my kid was on that bus, I'm not I
am going to do everything in my power to not
especially if they're little. Let's say they're a little kid,
I'll see anywhere in elementary school, high school. I might
have to have a conversation. Go, man, you never want
to be that motherfucker, right, You never want to be
the guy behind the wheel. But if they're little, it's
like an adventure. I don't want them being afraid to
get on the bus. Of course not, do you know
what I'm saying. You never get it again. Now you
have to be the chauffeur. Thank you, and I and
that depending on where you live, it's sometimes that's possible.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So uh and so there's I'm kidding different thing. So
somebody else. My thing would be to not talk about
it and just be like, oh, you made it. And
of course the kid's gonna hear other people. But if
I can just go but you're fine, You're fine. And
nothing happened and we're all good, and we're all good,
And certainly I would be on the side of anybody
getting that person fired, having some kind of breathalyzing, Maybe
they need a dr in the in the garage, you
know whatever, I get it, but I don't want that
with my kid. And I have always sort of been
that way. And I feel like when you start putting
cameras in kids' faces, I think we don't have the
memory we think we do. It's proved. I think that
when situations are heightened, we put a camera in your
face and go, oh my god, Oh my god, you
must have been so scared. Were you were you scared?
Did you think you were gonna die? It's leading the
witness guys, and you're making hell for the kids and
the family. Please, I'm not excusing the seventy two year
old guy. You shouldn't have been driving, absolutely no, no,
no doubt. And again if my kid was, but I
just don't want I think we make a bigger deal
out of shit and we make it worse. Yes, and
we make it worse. And I think we do that
all the time. We love drama, that's human nature. We
love our gosh, like gossip is our national passage. I mean,
if we no, no, I'm saying, if we don't have
anything going on, we'll drumming up man in some way.
For we have wars on all kinds of things, if
we don't have a real war. And my I just
think in these situations, and I often think of like
the time the guys wandered into my kids' school years ago,
and it was the cops were all surrounding the school
and they were looking for these guys out of New
York City who came up here over a drug deal
gone bad. And they picked up a father and daughter
and realized they had the wrong people and drop them
off in gates and then a high speed chase down
four ninety they get off in my neighborhood and come
gunning through my neighborhood. I think we were on the
radio together. And I wouldn't go up to the school.
I refuse to go up there. I go the pros
are there, Yeah, what are we gonna do? And so
when my kids came here, I'm but I'm mean to go.
I'm like, don't nothing's gonna happen. If something terrible happens,
we'll deal with it. But right as of right now,
nothing has happened. The cops are there and you're just
gonna get in the way. Yeah, you're cholesterol and that's
the thing. That's what I said, maniss it pissed people off.
Speaker 4: Up.
Speaker 1: He joined us. He had a curveball thrown his way
real quick, and we will bring him on. Peter montmor
what did you want to say about the the other
thing from before we get to peak.
Speaker 2: Over on Saturday? Has anybody ever played chicken with you
on the road? No, I'm driving down the road and
they're at you. Yes, it's night. It's Saturday night. I
had to go pick up my wife's been sick for
a while and started to get it or just starting
to get better. No, no, just like just ill. And
so I had to go pick up a prescription or something.
And I'm driving down the road and there's two cars
coming and one of the cars gets into the lane
that I'm in and comes at me. So I'm just
thinking he's passing the other guy. But then I realized, wait, ak,
he was in front. Why is he coming after me?
Speaker 1: And he's still driving a hundred yards, still coming after me.
So I pull over to the side of the road
and he just keeps going, and I'm like, no, they weren't.
I think it was a dare I think it was
a fraternity prank because it was near Ori t. But
these guys are like, what are you doing? Man? Why
are you driving at me? Because there was no there's
no reason to pass anybody. They had clear lanes to
drive through. Why are they driving at me? And then
as I look in the rearview mirrors, I'm pulled over.
They both kind of like catch up with each other
and like pull off to the side of the road.
But it's like, come on, man, really was it was
slick out? Yeah, that's pretty dumb. Yeah, that's pretty dumb.
I'm lucky I didn't. Like I almost wanted to, like,
you know, try to like go find the guy's license
plate and call him in because that's incredibly dangerous. Yes,
it is incredible, incredibly dangerous. You probably should have done
that in all honesty, because that you're playing with, yeah,
weights and things that you're when I say, waits the
weight of a car, you're playing with machinery you really
can't handle if something happened, right, Yes, you got to
like gravity in the laws of physics playing and they're
coming down a hill too. Peter's gonna come on, but
I want to just play this song for Peter. This
is Danny in the Healthy Fats and just Peter wants
to talk. We're gonna get them talk a little Buffalo
bills but sounds so sweet, Dan, the way you play
that guitar.
Speaker 11: Baby, Oh the bills they it's so hard, but fade
It played a card another seas and down and dreams
leaves us with nothing but.
Speaker 1: Pain and blame.
Speaker 11: Seasons change and so do dreams. Fool a co silent
scream snowfalls, but down hardy catch on everything.
Speaker 1: There we go. The raft must be on the take.
I don't know. We will find out from Peter Mont Peter,
how are you, sir man? How you doing? Guys doing well?
Peter had a curveball I think thrown at him tonight. Yeah.
Speaker 10: Look, you know you know when you have what did
I say?
Speaker 11: Right?
Speaker 1: What did I say? I know bets are off, but
you have kids.
Speaker 10: Yes, that's right, So I apologize for.
Speaker 1: At all. Danny was making some good points and one
of them was probably I don't even know, but I'll
ask this Dan to you before we get to Peter.
Was Peter's comment the impetus to the thought that you
wanted to make very clear not really, No, okay, because
Peter did say last time that he thinks that McDermott
has overstayed as welcome.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think in a lot of ways he has.
Don't get me wrong, Yeah, I mean. But the thing
is is, though, is that who Like it's like, like
I said, it's like hitting at nineteen. Who's going to
replace the guy? And how are they gonna get over
this hump? Like there's only one guy maybe in sports
who can like figure out Patrick Mahomes or there might
be a few, but they're not coming to Buffalo, right,
Like Wade Phillips has been on the bench for a
long time as a defensive coordinator. His last appearance in
the NFL was with the Rams. Before that, he built
them up. Before that, he won a Super Bowl with Denver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he so.
Speaker 2: Like McDermott is a defense a head coach, he's got
to be better and he just you're not going to
get any much better than him unless you hire a
guy like Belichick, which is a pipe tream.
Speaker 10: Is it fair to say that the Bills have a
Super Bowl roster right now.
Speaker 1: I think they have a super Bowl quarterback. I don't
know if they have a super Bowl roster when you
look on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2: But then again, I don't know if Kansas City has
a Super Bowl roster aside from Mahomes and Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: That's that's what. But to cornerstones on each side of
the ball, they do, and they have they have an
all star head coachlosers and closers closer, But I don't
know if Buffalo. I think you gotta firm up that backfield,
a defensive backfield.
Speaker 10: Defens I watched a little bit of film. H Hamlin
was just.
Speaker 1: Well, I said, I said that DeMar Hamlin saved his
worst game for that game. I mean that season, Yes,
all of it. It was yes.
Speaker 10: I don't know if he was playing scared or he
just did the lights are too big for him. I
don't know, but it was pretty disappointing. And then when
you lose, you know who we lost in the game.
Benford going down is just crippling el is.
Speaker 1: I don't know which was Tamar Hamblin's doing. I mean
with wa wait wait wait wait, we.
Speaker 2: Won Tamar Hamlin is the one who knocked Bedford out
of the game.
Speaker 1: Yes, their heads.
Speaker 2: Collided and Bedford looked like he was he was like
a sack of potatoes on the on the cart man.
Speaker 10: He shouldn't have been out there, He should not have.
Speaker 1: Been out, should have been home. I think the NFL's
concussion protocol is a bit of a jokes on who
you are, right.
Speaker 10: I think I think Jared Goff had concussion in the
playoff game. He got crushed. Yeah, there's no question he
had concussion. He's right back out there. And you know
two series from that. I mean, you see guys get
hit less and be out for longer, just.
Speaker 2: And it does Troy Troykman's told stories about he doesn't
remember Super Bowl thirty at all because he.
Speaker 1: Played with a game, right and they won.
Speaker 2: Kelly had a concussion the Redskins game, Yeah.
Speaker 10: The Redskins super Bowl. Yeah, he doesn't remember what happened.
Speaker 1: Peter. I I think that the premise of, well, we'll
get him next season is kind of tough because it's tired.
We've been very lucky that Josh Allen has remained healthy,
but there's no guarantee.
Speaker 10: No, and you feel like every year you get older.
You know, obviously these professional athletes are doing more for
their bodies. You know you heard during the Ravens bro
or the Ravens game that you know, Travis Henry or
Derrek Henry spends two hundred and twelve thousand dollars a
year on body performance. So as you get older, yes,
you're you're you're getting a step slower. You know, I
still think Allen's in his prime. But make no mistake,
you take you keep taking hits like that. I love
how he pops right back up, he stays on the ground.
He after he takes a big that's gonna start wearing
away as much work as you do. So can we
count on that type of quarterback play to year three
years down the road? I don't know next year, Yes,
but I don't know two and three years down the
road again, nutrition, body performance, taking care of your body
in the offseason. But you know, again, it's it's we're
on borrow time with Josh. I feel like at this point,
I mean again, he's got a big deal six years right,
he signed a six year extension two years ago. Yes,
so he signed through twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now he's they're.
Speaker 10: Gonna restruct fourteenth paid quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to restructure him too, because like he's
got a big you have to because he's got a
big cap. But like that's no big deal. They just
pushed that money further down the road. He gets more
guaranteed money. That's all good. But I mean, like, you know,
Elway played till he was thirty nine. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
Marino played till he was thirty nine, Kelly played till
he was thirty six. Josh is gonna be twenty nine
next year. Okay, So I mean there's or thirty. So
he's gonna he's got plenty of he's got plenty of time.
He's gonna be twenty nineties.
Speaker 1: Half two.
Speaker 10: In those quarterbacks you mentioned, I wouldn't call Elway a scramble.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 10: He was more mobile than Marino and Kelly.
Speaker 1: He was the most mobile of his generation. Yea, other
than the young of.
Speaker 10: That generation, without question. But were the pocket quarterbacks? Could they,
like Brady, could they play longer because they weren't taking
the shots?
Speaker 1: That's a great question in an.
Speaker 10: Open field, like like Josh does so obviously, you know
Elwait took his share of him, But I think Josh
is a little more mobile than than Elway was. I
think definitely mobile, but I think Josh was in another
category because you know, it's it's when you're in the
open field, you're making cuts. You know, your knees are
your joints are older, your knees are older. I worry
about that stuff more than the hits. I worry about
the tendons and making the cut on the turf and
all that kind of stuff that that makes me nervous
as part of his game. But that's his game, and
that's why the Bills are successful every year because he
has that part of the game that's almost indefensible. But again,
I wonder, you know, they have to restructure it, right,
They have to restructure it. And I would love his
agent or him to say, all right, guys, listen, I
need X, Y and Z. You know, I feel like
he's the guy who doesn't want to rock the boat, right,
but he knows he needs a couple of big dogs
on the defensive side, and he needs somebody else in
a wide receiver spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he spoke lowly.
Speaker 2: That could take the top off. He spoke lowingly of McDermott.
So I mean, like that's not going to be an issue.
But I think as the quarterback, he like like with Peter,
with every team. You know this because you played every team,
even in work Bill, you know this too. Every every
successful organization has a champion somewhere. Like with the Philadelphia Eagles,
their champion isn't on the field. It's a guy by
the name of Howie Roseman. He's the general man. He
was the architect. He built that franchise. You know, the
Kansas City Chiefs, their champion isn't really Patrick Mahomes as
much as it's Andy Reid.
Speaker 1: He built it.
Speaker 2: The Bill's champion is on the field, it's it's Josh Allen.
So he's the guy who wields all the power, and
he has to realize that he doesn't want you don't
want him to turn to and Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck
the big thing in Indian after deanw. Luck was like
he didn't want to rock the boat either, so he
never said anything, never dine anything, and they never went anywhere,
and eventually he decided, yeah, I'm done, I don't want
to play anymore. But the power was always in his hands,
and I think the powers in Allen's ads, he's got
to sit down and go here's what you said, here's
what we need, here's what I need if we're going
to do this and finally get past these guys.
Speaker 1: Or else it's never gonna happen, you know. Yeah, why
it looks like they could have maybe possibly, you know,
I don't know, Peter. We talked about this earlier. If
the NFL benefits from all the talk about the first
fourth down play that should have put the Bills at
a first down.
Speaker 2: Both of them because the third Dell was look like
he got there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, and I said to Danny, Look,
does this lead to rule changes? Because you have an
outcry on social media, people naming the line judge and
saying that he's a Ravens fan and he's got ties
to Kansas City and making all these assumptions and things.
But does it lead to rule changes where look, in tennis,
you've got technology that tells you exactly where the ball hits.
Do they start to use some kind of technology where
you can see or does that sort of take the element,
the human element out of the game, which gives us
the controversy at times which we kind of crave and love.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we do, Craven love. It is people's jobs are depending.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I
think that you may see a change Peter with the technology,
and I don't think it's going to have anything really
to do with so much careers and things as it
will have to do with betting. They are two in
bed with betting. And that's where I wonder, honestly, does
this change because of betting? At some point does somebody
come to the NFL and go, guys, we had all
this money and you fucked it up with this shitty
call or are they in cahoots there? Could that be
the thing? I don't know, but I do wonder if
that would change and more because of betting down.
Speaker 10: The line, you know, I I thought of this because
you know, the thing that drove me nuts is after
a competitive game, if you lose your distraught in like
two seconds. After the last series, it wasn't even triple
zero yet Dawkins is hugging Chris Jones and Doctors's face,
what are you doing? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Now, then I look at Josh Allen and his disdain
and his disgust. Yeah, he's invested in it, and I
don't think unless it's beyond the player's control, I don't
think the players have any idea what might be happening.
But there's too much. There's too much glad handing after
a game. Do you really love what you're doing? Do
you care about?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Used to say that it wasn't in football, was in baseball.
Tommy Lussorta Brad Davies and I interviewed him once and
he goes, what's one thing you would change in baseball?
Mister Losordi goes the fratizing before and after the game.
We used to hate each other. That's the way it
should be.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 1: But and I liked it more when there was that too.
But now the guys work out together in the off
season and boys, and they're all getting traded to different places.
And who's the who's the big personality on the defensive
line that I no, Maybe it's off anyway? He was
out yeah for the Bills, and it might be might
be no, probably offensive line. Then I'm thinking I'm getting
the guys name wrong. But he was over hugging too
and had a big smile on his face and laughing
and look at the end of it, they're the ones
that battled. They're the ones that battled, you know. And
I think that for Josh it was I think Josh
wears his heart on the sleeve and put you know,
puts on the Superman cape at times and was really
trying to do something.
Speaker 2: But let's let's let's let's bake this. Let's let's call
it what it is. Okay, the NFL owners, for years,
you couldn't talk about gambling.
Speaker 1: None of that.
Speaker 2: It is taboo, right right, right, But then all of
a sudden, now you say it.
Speaker 1: Here's here's where's where I'm going with this.
Speaker 2: The NFL is the ones who are like you never
see a college football program saying, hey, Indiana is going
to relocate the North Carolina unless you build us a
new stadium.
Speaker 1: Right, they can't do that.
Speaker 2: But football is just as big in Texas as it
is in the NFL, or in Florida or whatever. College
football is just as important.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The difference is the NFL owners now have owned put
together a construction company. So now they hassle the state
and local local governments to give them money to build
a new state where they put money in their pockets.
Speaker 1: You know what else. They're invested in DraftKings fan Buel,
They're invested in the gambling too. This is never going
to change. The only thing that can.
Speaker 2: Change is if next Sunday everybody puts their mouths where
their money money is and don't watch and just doesn't watch,
doesn't gamble, and send the NFL a message.
Speaker 1: It's the only way because if we.
Speaker 2: Don't, they know they could get away with it because
they because there was all this chatter about refs before
this game.
Speaker 1: Did it change a thing? Not really? No.
Speaker 10: I'd love for you to someone give you a credential
to fly to New Orleans and sit in the press
conference with Goodell and.
Speaker 1: Just about one step further, Peter, how about this?
Speaker 2: How come nobody, not one media person, not one ask
the refs after the game about the spot.
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk not asked.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 1: I did they think they bring them out? I don't
think they were. Somebody's got to ask that question. But
I don't think they had the opportunity because I didn't
think they made those refs available. Maybe I'm wrong, but
I think you have to know you know what it is.
I think the media has to request to talk to
THEO and nobody that's actually irrespond But do we know
maybe people did the requests? That's one.
Speaker 2: The other thing is that I think it's it's the
end of the Bill's season, right, so now all these
Bills writers have to go cover the end of the team,
the end of the season. That at that moment, their
responsibilities are like, Okay, if the Bills win, here's what
you're going to cover. If you lose, if they lose,
here's what you're gonna cover. I think that was the
last thing on their minds at that point.
Speaker 1: Abody's got to do it. But also, how much do
we know this? How much says media? How many media
companies have cut right? You used to send a couple
of guys where you could have one guy go, you
go ask this, get that ref I'm going to go
into the locker room where you go in lockerown. I'm
going to it can't anymore. Some guys don't even go
with a cameraman. They're doing it all these they're doing
their own ship. Just I think the Dad Brown's doing
it all there. That's sort of to you know, to
your point of we got to wrap this up. What's
going to be the bigger story? And at that point
those refs and who knows what the refs are gonna say.
Speaker 2: But it's not just like Capitol Hill, like we've seen
the President's like, you know, his selections. It's they're thrilling
them back and forth. At the end of the day,
at least you have a transcript of what they are saying.
Whether or not you can determine based on reading the
transcript if they're hiding someone.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 10: There have been games where the refs have come out.
I can't remember which games they were.
Speaker 1: It was earlier this month.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they come out and they say, oh, yeah, we
mess this call up. Uh yeah, they make a statement,
but it's not consistent. It's not consistent.
Speaker 2: Well, and they won't get into specifics. It happened earlier
this year. I can't remember what it was. Earlier this month.
There was a playoff game and the officials said, we're
not going to answer the question or not going to
get into why.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, it becomes I mean, where are you
going to go with it? You know? But my point
is I want to get a pattern. Yes, well, here's
the thing. Start making it so it's not a request
to talk to them they got to talk. They're available. Yeah,
this isn't the world always available? Make them available, and
then we hold their feet to the and their feet
are held to the fire a little bit, right, Yeah
you got that?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, but I sorry, I don't want I don't
want to forget this point. But my brother works from
Minna football. He handles the pylon cam in the end
zone his team does. So I asked him, I said,
are there are other camera angles that we don't know
about that New York seeing that fans can't see? And
he said, no, that all the cameras, everybody sees what
New York sees, and avery you know, it's different teams
working on different cameras and different producers get together during
the game, so it's a whole machine. But there, I thought,
maybe there's camera angles that we're not seeing. So we're thinking, well, no,
it's we see what New York sees. And for that
fourth down he was over the line and and the
camera that was right down the line. How can how
can they not overturn that? I I it's beyond me
and it will always We'll never going to know.
Speaker 1: We're never gonna know. But I said to Danny, could
This lead to two changes, and one because of betting putting.
They already have a chip in the ball for next
gen stats. We've got the technology in tennis. There's something
they can do. You can do if they want to
find out exactly where that ball is on the field
right to eliminate this shit. And the other is Peter
I'm waiting for when the push tush is rule olid. Yeah,
I really am in.
Speaker 2: A way, and I want to too, just to protect
Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: Well right, because you got a good chance of somebody
getting hurt and it's boring to watch unless they stop it.
It's not very exciting most of the time. Most of
the time the offensive team gets it, that's the thing.
They usually get it. Well.
Speaker 10: Coming in to that game, I'm sure you heard the
stat the Chiefs actually gave up thirty two consecutive Gube
sneaks for first downs thirty two, so you can see
why they went to the well all the time.
Speaker 2: Those were twenty nine to thirty one, and they nailed
the first one that they had earlier game. They remember
last week against the Ravens on that third down and
goal at the two, everybody's like, rollogo, just push it. Twice,
or maybe Nan said it just put push push it twice,
and instead Allen ran this weird play and he was
about to flip it back to the backfield, and then
he held down to the ball and said, why just
run the tousch push. So now it fails the first time, right,
and then it fails the second time, and everybody's like, well,
why did you have a backup plan? It's like, we
can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1: I think I think that the only reason that it
stays in is because Buffalo failed at it, so then
therefore it doesn't alway does it always work? And so
we got and now we now, hey, it's oh, we
got all this talk. We got they're not going to
out outlaw. But I wonder if eventually it does happen.
Speaker 10: Well, and I think, you know Kansas City again having
those consecutive uh plays where they gave it up, so
they're probably practicing for it obviously during the week here,
what's going to happen? This is all that Buffalo does
the most successful. The thing that that frustrated me, And
I don't hear. Maybe people were talking about this, but
I haven't heard it. You're on camp, you're in Kansas
City Stadium. You're in a fourth down situation, the crowd's
going berserk, the offense can't hear the cadence. Yeah, so
you sometimes you go want to silent count and you
need the half a step. The defense is getting off
before the offenses because everybody's moving differently because you're doing
a little tap on the bot and then boom, they
snapped the bit. You can't hear the cadence, and the
timing isn't there. Timing has to be there for that play.
So that that's one thing I was a little aggravated
about because you could they're in the middle of the
enemy territory, they can't hear. They cannot hear, and that
you need to hear the cadence. The offensive line needs
to hear, and everybody has to be timing has to
be perfect in order to execute that play. But I
don't know if they talked about that yet.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't really heard of that. I've heard more
of Usually you try to go really loud to draw
them off sides, but you are competing against one of
the loudest stadiums in the NFL.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, to try that, and you know, we're so
and looking a little bit at the film as well.
We're so and out. You know, it's not so much
what Kanacy was taken away versus what the schemes were
for Buffalo. But and this has been true even last year,
and I screamed about this last year. I didn't scream
about too much this year. But man, they don't like
to use the middle of the field as much as
they like to use the numbers to the boundary. They
don't why they don't throw and you have to use
the whole field, right, But my god, the concentration, the boundaries.
The twelfth defender and the thirteenth even engage with that
area of the field when you don't have to when
you have skill, guys. I mean, look when Shakiro goes
over the middle and Hollins he's throwing fifteen yard gigs
and it's wide open. You don't use kink the right way.
In my opinion, they don't use the middle of the field.
And I don't understand why Marcelo's using as much as
they should.
Speaker 2: Marcel's Wiley said, he goes when you're on offense, it's
eleven on thirteen, he goes, what do you think he
goes you might ask me, what do I mean he
goes the sidelines.
Speaker 10: Too, Yes, he goes.
Speaker 1: You got to be wai, Yes, So why don't.
Speaker 2: You run more quick slants and stuff like that? I mean,
the Bills really had no downfield passing game this year.
If it was it was a broken play and Alan
and Shakir would make it work or somebody else, it
would just oh wow, Matt Collins caught the ball. But
it's by the way, he had a heck of a
season for.
Speaker 1: A great catch in that game, five.
Speaker 10: Touchdowns, I think the most touchdowns on the team. Didn't
he has white.
Speaker 1: House, Yeah, with shoes up. Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I would love for a Bruce Arians
to come in and just revitalize that offense.
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, well, what about Joe Brady.
Speaker 2: You had three thirty three left and in the last
nine minutes you're the second best guy on your offense.
We figured out really was James Cook and he didn't
touch the ball, and nobody wants to talk about why.
Speaker 1: And you saw you brought up the idea, did they
did he pull himself out of the game. Yeah, I
don't know, because no one's talking about this.
Speaker 10: No, it looked and looked that way to me, just
the way he got up and didn't hesitate because he
saw someone coming out. It's like he got up and
ran straight to the sideline and what what what are
you doing? That's my reaction. Now, That's why I asked
the question earlier. Do we have a Super Bowl roster?
Do the Bills have a Super Bowl roster? Because okay,
who else just for you know, we talked about just
to talk about it, but who could be better?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 10: Who could take that Super Bowl roster to the next level?
Could Mike McCarthy take that Super Bowl roster to the
next level?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 10: Could could? You don't think so?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And who's who just got.
Speaker 10: Fired by Jacksonville?
Speaker 1: He could Peterson? I don't think he could either.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 10: No, but both of them won super Bowls, I'm saying,
and I know, I know.
Speaker 11: Do they have.
Speaker 10: What it takes to take a Super Bowl roster to
the next level?
Speaker 1: And I you know, en comes out of retirement. It's funny. Well, no,
it's funny because Sean Payton. Sean Payton, when he realized
that the Saints were this close, he took a pay
cut because Greg Williams was willing to come and be
the defensive coordinator who everybody in Buffalo hates, everybody in
New York hats, everybody hates Greg Williams rightfully, So the
guy's a jackass. But man, he built that Saints defense
up to win that Super Bowl and he beat Peyton Manning.
Right now, I'm not saying it should be Greg Williams.
Speaker 2: What I am saying is, though, there is somebody out
there on either side of the ball that can help
you get over that hump strategically. Because this Bill's defense,
I'm sorry, You're not gonna find another edge rusher. They're
not that good. They never developed a pass rush in
an elimination game. They haven't done it.
Speaker 1: They also didn't have a situational run game except this
year they did, and they didn't use it in the
last nine minutes. I don't understand. So I mean, like,
you need somebody, another set of eyes on both sides
of the ball and.
Speaker 2: Say, hey, coach, here's what we're thinking, here's what we
need to do. Unfortunately, Joe Brady's a young coordinator, and
so is Bobby Babage. You got young guys back there who.
Speaker 1: Could be innovative, right, But man, they weren't experienced enough
in that big moment, but they could become that. They
could feel like each time you keep knocking on the door,
it's almost like just punching a piece of wood until
finally it's weakened enough that you break it, you know
what I mean, or hammering in something. And I hope
that's the case. The question is, you know, does everything
all stay healthy and well? And who knows?
Speaker 10: That's that's the big king. You have to stay healthy.
Look at Detroit, they were there, they were desigated incredibly, Yes,
but there's you mentioned Greg Williams that it reminds me
of the the press conference or the interview that Ralph
Wilson had as to one of the reasons why Greg
Williams won the job, and I was like, you gotta
be kidding me. I couldn't believe he said that, Like
this guy's losing it.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 10: You remember what he said, Dan, Well, he had a
lot of grafts and charts. Yeah, he was prepared for Michael.
He was the most prati charts.
Speaker 2: He and Tom Donahoe said, Tom Donahoe is the general
manager of the time. He was the most prepared candidate
we've ever seen, and I and I hired Bill Kawer
this is and Brad David goes, oh, so he keeps
his paper clips away from his uh rubber bands, And then.
Speaker 10: That makes me again, and then for Ralph Wilson, and
I'll never forget. Bill Paullion actually heard this from Bill
Poleon himself. Bill Polling was when he was working for
the Bills. He's walking down the hall and Ralph will
and goes, who are you? I'm your I'm your general manager.
Bill Pauleye. He didn't even know, wow, who Bill Poleon was.
Speaker 1: This is This is an eighty five though, Bill, Yeah,
but he had other things. Rob was in his sixties
at that, other things on his mind. Danny had a
lot of money, Yes, money issues, all right, well but
there's got to be but there's got to be something.
Speaker 2: And they're this close, Yes, yes they are. I can't
figure out how I don't know that than Josh.
Speaker 1: Allen, Yeah, this book. I thought this was a dip.
I didn't say a rebuild, but a dip season I did.
I thought, I said at the beginning, I.
Speaker 2: Know all the signs were there, but the time, nobody,
nobody in this room on this show right now, thought
they were going to not.
Speaker 1: Win the division. No, nor no, I did think that, but.
Speaker 2: We didn't think that they would necessarily be a championship
game team, and they grew into one as the season
went on.
Speaker 1: He did, which, by the way, does that come?
Speaker 10: I like the whole thing everybody eats. I couldn't stand that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but well there's a shot except one. But is
that a coaching thing? The fact that they all yeah,
so maybe we're on the right path now. So Pete,
I said, I said to Bill earlier. I'm I see
your face.
Speaker 2: I see Pete, I said to Bill earlier. I said, Look,
I mean we could kill McDermott for his in game
decision making or the fact that somehow, somehow Sunday or
Monday through Saturday, the game plan got lost somewhere, that
they had a B game plan instead of an A
game plan. But the end of the day, it can't
just be they're successful just because Josh Allen. These guys
are coached up, they are playing well, and when they
lose games, they've only lost a handful of games in
McDermott's entires. Once Josh, once they started making the playoffs
in twenty nineteen, I think they've only lost two or
three games by more than one score total, the Ravens
game this past year, the playoff game against Cincinnati, and yeah,
and then and then to one game against Indianapolis, one
game against Philadelphia. So that's like four games where they've
actually gotten blown out. So they play really, really good football.
They're well coached. It's just a matter of how come
when it's this moment that they can't get over that hump?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 10: Because they're this close situational football that's their problem. It's
situational football, I think. And coaches do a great job
with position players and putting guys in the best position
to be successful. And that's all well and good. Like
you said, they're competitive every every Sunday, but when it
comes down to situations in the game that are make
or break the Bills never since, they never well and
when it matters, dulcome through. Thirteen seconds? Oh yeah right,
I feel like that hurts more. This game hurt more
than thirteen seconds. In my opinion, I agree with you
from a fan perspective.
Speaker 2: I agree with you because thirteen seconds, Peter, like you
still had another week to go and play. We have
no idea if they would have beaten Cincinnati, and the
following year with the better team, they couldn't beat Cincinnati
at home, So you can't just assume they would have
beaten Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: And after the thirteen seconds game.
Speaker 2: They had the scenario Josh Allen, our hero with the ball,
three thirty three left, three timeouts and a three point deficit.
Speaker 1: This is NFL. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's the ink from the pen. This was
the NFL film scenario we were waiting for. We were
waiting for the NFL film scenario.
Speaker 1: I know we had it. Yes, we had it. We
signed that for it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and like you said, ask Marino, we'll be back again,
you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, six plays seventeen yards? Well, and do we so
last thing? Do do you?
Speaker 10: I don't want to ask this question. Do you go
after two things?
Speaker 1: Would it?
Speaker 10: And I know we did the right thing by leading,
like trading him, But what's Stefan Diggs type player mattered
in Sunday's game?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 10: I don't think so either because of how the defense
is drawn up. But now, so that's another one forward.
Do we go after a guy like t Higgins?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 10: Do we go after a guy like Tamar Chase, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is Chase a free agent?
Speaker 10: I think he is.
Speaker 1: I know he wrong. I don't think he is. I
think Higgins is.
Speaker 2: I'm certain Higgins is, and I don't think since that's
gonna franchise him again. I don't know about Chase though,
but I'm certain. But like I looked at the free
agent list yesterday and there's a lot of old dudes
on it.
Speaker 10: But I just worry about Hey, this locker room is secure.
It's we got all the right people. And do you
want to bring it up understands Kumbaya, You're gonna have
to bring in someone different.
Speaker 2: Do you want to bring in a pain? And they
have to bring right exactly exactly, and receivers are a.
Speaker 1: Pain in the ass.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Was Amari going to be back? Don't know. I mean again,
that's another thing we could go on all day.
Speaker 2: Every time the Bills make an end season trade that
we think is going to make an impact, that guy
his impact is minimal every single year, whether it's Hims
or whether it was Kelvin Benjamin and now it's like
his first game, that was it.
Speaker 1: He had a few catches, but it was like he
didn't do anything more. Than Mac Collins did. Uh, well,
we'll see Peter. I don't know if you'll enjoy the
Super Bowl or not. Do you want to see Kansas
City get three in a row? No, it's something that's
never been done. I mean I kind of, you know,
go your goals.
Speaker 10: I don't. I don't particularly like a lot like you
only see them through TV, right, but I particularly don't.
I can't root for a guy like Travis Kelce. I
just can't. I can't. I like Andy Reid, I think
he's great. Spagnolo is awesome. Two great coaches, two closers,
two closers. I just I don't particularly like a lot
of the Kansas City Chiefs, Like I don't feel like
I can root for them. I can't stand the head
coach for Philly. So you know, I someone said that.
Speaker 7: What do you.
Speaker 2: The one likable guy, the one likable guy in this
whole Super Bowl and I don't even know if I
love him, is Jalen Hurts. I mean Jalen Hurts like
he's a professional. Now, there's times when he sulks on
the sidelines that you can tell, but he's the guy
keeping Syrianni the head your quarterback is keeping your head
coach in line, like he's coach, don't coach, calm down, coach,
don't be an idiot, Like that's that's a tell.
Speaker 1: But I mean, at least he's a leader.
Speaker 2: Right on the flip side, I've read reports and stories
that like in Kansas City, if it weren't for Andy Reid,
that that would be a freaking crap show in casey
because like those guys like like they don't Mahomes and
Kelsey aren't necessarily leaders.
Speaker 1: They're just really good. Yeah, I don't I don't know anything.
I don't read about any of those guys. And I
think the Kelsey has become more likable because we've seen
him more.
Speaker 2: But like it's not like a Brady situation or an
Allen situation.
Speaker 1: Where everybody in the roster would run through a wall
because they don't want to disappoint you.
Speaker 2: It's not the same way in Kansas City. It sounds strange,
but it's it's Andy Reid's the guy. They're playing for
him now as.
Speaker 10: A cushion the blow at all if if Alan wins
the MVP next Thursday.
Speaker 1: No, not for me. I think MVP almost means nothing.
Speaker 2: I think it's bittersweet, but at the same time it
falls the pattern of another MVP who didn't finish.
Speaker 1: And I've made that argument.
Speaker 2: I made it argument with a ride with the Yankees.
Baseball is an issue.
Speaker 1: Too, Peter. I gotta get out of here, rock and
roll man, I gotta go see a young man who
needs some help with an essay. I got a full bladder,
all right, but always a pleasure. And we'll have you
down again before the season begins, probably time and all
kinds of stuff. Love it, love your take, all right, Yeah,
all right, guys, thanks later, soon later, Peter Montamernal. All right,
we'll wrap it up here for the lady that farted
sent the videos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has gotten punished, gut bunished for the poor
family of the dude.
Speaker 1: Who oh, the hammer guy, I almost I could have
been killed. Yeah, I could have been years, many years.
I was at these things many years. I think I
had to move out of the way in one of them.
I'm sure you did. Yeah, oh, because I was standing
on the sideline at ri T and some errant one
win and I remember like hustling out of the way
because it went over. But that was not netting. That
was just the thing I should probably have been standing there.
For Dan Burrello, great insight to the Buffalo Bills. As always,
please read his columns in the Times of Wayne County.
You can get it online as well, Yes you can,
and uh, very well written. Thank you I have written,
Oh cool, I made sure. No, I'm not kidding. I'm
looking forward to this one coming off. Since you've talked
about the struggle of China, write it has struggle, but
I mean the process. Yes, yes, I don't mean uh
for Dan. I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.