Speaker 1: Ww podcast listeners, Welcome to another Wrestling Magic episode here
Speaker 1: with Rocket Tea, the Gardner and mister Maverick himself. As
Speaker 1: we know, it's been a big week in WDWE Summersdam
Speaker 1: just took place on August third, coming out of the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown Stadium in Cleveland, Ohio. The event they set
Speaker 1: a new record there with fifty seven seven and ninety
Speaker 1: one fans, But one of those fans was our very
Speaker 1: own Maverick Fellas.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 3: And I'm living the dream over here in Louisville, just
Speaker 3: taking care of some stuff and trying to figure out
Speaker 3: a few things in my life. But you know, it's
Speaker 3: always the same wrestling, wrestling, wrestling, And unfortunately I couldn't
Speaker 3: be in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Where I grew up, but my nephew could.
Speaker 3: And Maverick is going to share I think, something beautiful
Speaker 3: and unique with us, just like when he was alive
Speaker 3: at Wimbley last year for what was all in So, Maverick,
Speaker 3: why don't you want you say hello to everybody and
Speaker 3: start giving us a little background on the show.
Speaker 4: All right, guys, glad to be back on the show
Speaker 4: with YOUTWO. It's been a little while, so going up
Speaker 4: to Cleveland. It was a nice little event because Michael
Speaker 4: I went up with your brother Tim, and as we
Speaker 4: were driving up, believe it or not, we looked over
Speaker 4: at the Uni Lot, which is a big thing in Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Usually it's where everybody parks when the Browns games are
Speaker 4: going on. So we look over off the highway, freeway
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, and Alsodden, we see
Speaker 4: this dude dressed up as the Ultimate Warrior just running
Speaker 4: down the street and he's like shaking the fences and everything,
Speaker 4: just having the best time of his life. And he
Speaker 4: was in pretty good shape too, so it looked the
Speaker 4: part very well, and you know, shirtless and everything, and
Speaker 4: we're like, wow, I think we're in the right place.
Speaker 1: And there's there's always an Ultimate Warrior and there's always
Speaker 1: a macho man every rest event.
Speaker 4: Hey you got that right. And there was a few
Speaker 4: matra men around, but not quite as eccentric, I guess
Speaker 4: we could say just none were running around being too
Speaker 4: crazy with it. But uh yeah. So we get to
Speaker 4: the stadium and everything, after getting parking situated, obviously, everything
Speaker 4: was made pretty easy for us. We went out. We
Speaker 4: saw where the what is it called the pre Show
Speaker 4: was being filmed, and everything didn't get too close to
Speaker 4: that just because that's where the gigantic crowd was. But
Speaker 4: they didn't open the doors until a little bit later
Speaker 4: than what we were hoping because they had said four thirty.
Speaker 4: They didn't opened until about four to fifty five. So
Speaker 4: we're all standing there just waiting at the gate, like
Speaker 4: fifty thousand of us, just all sweaty and everything, and
Speaker 4: it's just like, how this's getting worse and worse by
Speaker 4: the minute. Eventually we get inside, and you know, the
Speaker 4: fans were pretty lively. It was pretty nice to be
Speaker 4: in there. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: What were some of the chants that were going on
Speaker 1: when you were waiting in line?
Speaker 2: There's always chance going on? Uh in Lockclaire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of Rick Flair wu's going on,
Speaker 4: But there was a lot of just open up and
Speaker 4: everything like that. I remember, Yeah, everybody was just getting
Speaker 4: more and more annoyed the longer we were out there.
Speaker 4: Cleveland was not happy about having to stand outside for
Speaker 4: that long.
Speaker 1: There was a temperature out there when you were standing.
Speaker 4: I think it was close to ninety degrees that day,
Speaker 4: which I know it's not that hot to some places,
Speaker 4: but for us in Ohio, it's kind of that's a
Speaker 4: bit much.
Speaker 2: So you go ahead. I just gonna say, just out
Speaker 2: of curiosity.
Speaker 3: When they get those doors open, was there just like
Speaker 3: merch stands everywhere?
Speaker 4: So I did forget to mention. So outside where the
Speaker 4: pre show thing was, there was a few trailers that
Speaker 4: had merch stands inside of them. There was some food
Speaker 4: stuff out there as well. Once we got inside the stadium,
Speaker 4: there was a couple of merch areas you could get belts, shirts, whatever,
Speaker 4: but it was more food. And I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 4: I was really happy with the placement of a lot
Speaker 4: of the stuff within Brown Stadium. I was pretty happy
Speaker 4: to see where they had. Everything was pretty much everywhere
Speaker 4: you can need and couldn't really get lost either. Everything
Speaker 4: was marked very well.
Speaker 1: I want to backtrack just a little bit because you're
Speaker 1: stationed in UK. So how did y'all decide to go
Speaker 1: to Summers? I'm just like, whoh, we want to go?
Speaker 1: It's in Cleveland. It was a convenient.
Speaker 2: You said you went with Uncle Tim, So did y'all? Like?
Speaker 1: What is what was that process like deciding to go?
Speaker 4: Well, so I was planning on coming home and just decided, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is the time period that I just saw that
Speaker 4: SummerSlam was in the area, and I was kind of
Speaker 4: looking at the prices. It's like, you know, I can
Speaker 4: get this. I can get pretty good seats. And I decided,
Speaker 4: you know what, how often am I going to be
Speaker 4: able to say that I got to be at a
Speaker 4: wrestling event in Cleveland Brown Stadium and something as big
Speaker 4: as SummerSlam. So I decided, you know what, I'm going
Speaker 4: to get tickets if Tim wants to come, because that's
Speaker 4: who I'd prefer to hang out with that day. Cool.
Speaker 4: If I have to go with someone else or even
Speaker 4: eat the money for the ticket, I'll do it, but
Speaker 4: prefer to go with Tim for sure. And he was
Speaker 4: happy to go as well, happy that he was able
Speaker 4: to experience it with me.
Speaker 2: So y'all are from Ohio? Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes? Originally?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: They didn't know they We never got that information out.
Speaker 1: So if we're me learning and the listeners learning a
Speaker 1: little bit more about you, okay, So that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So back to get in the gate? Uh March Stands?
Speaker 1: What was Is there anything unique at the March Stands?
Speaker 1: I know they have to Cleveland, Ohio belts. I know
Speaker 1: those are going to be the custom ones. Anything else
Speaker 1: that stood out on the marchdands.
Speaker 4: Uh, So there was a few of them that I
Speaker 4: noticed had certain hoodies and certain it almost looked like
Speaker 4: a jerseys that just said Cleveland at the top and uh,
Speaker 4: some Summer Slam stuff over it, and certain things that
Speaker 4: were like browns or Cavaliers or Indians colors, depending on
Speaker 4: what you were looking for. So there was a couple
Speaker 4: of unique things that were specifically Cleveland branded, but they
Speaker 4: all said Summer Slam on them as well, which I
Speaker 4: thought was nice and I should have grabbed something, but
Speaker 4: I just my mind blanked and I was just excited
Speaker 4: to be there.
Speaker 3: So how was it getting through you know, ticketing and
Speaker 3: all that and finding your seats, you know, taking everything in.
Speaker 3: I'm sure your uncle Tim Pearlly grabbed a beer you
Speaker 3: wanted a hot dog or something like that, and then
Speaker 3: headed down. How long did it take you to get
Speaker 3: to your seats with all the people filing it at
Speaker 3: the same time?
Speaker 1: And where were you sitting? If you can, if you
Speaker 1: can give us some perspective.
Speaker 4: So I was sitting in the section that is the
Speaker 4: first section that's not on the field, So I was
Speaker 4: in the stands, but it was ten droughts back from
Speaker 4: the wall, basically.
Speaker 2: On the bottom bowl the first level, yes.
Speaker 4: First level if you want to look it up, guys,
Speaker 4: section one to eleven in Cleveland Brown Stadium. It was
Speaker 4: a pretty good site as well. I could see the
Speaker 4: ring and everything almost perfectly, and then looking up at
Speaker 4: the jumble strowan or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 4: that they had it above the ring. You could see
Speaker 4: the wrestlers were the exact same size when you look
Speaker 4: down in the ring, So I thought it was fine.
Speaker 2: Where I was. That's pretty nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you can drop some of the pictures in
Speaker 1: discord for the listeners. You know, we're still fitting the
Speaker 1: effects with summers lad we still got Friday night coming
Speaker 1: up here under the horizon, so we noticed be some
Speaker 1: more fallout, so I'm sure the listeners would love.
Speaker 2: To see those see those pictures. So no merch.
Speaker 1: But you said there was a couple of things that
Speaker 1: were unique to the stands. There was there any pre
Speaker 1: well it was on a pre show. Anything on pre
Speaker 1: show before we had our first match. We know that
Speaker 1: jelly roll opened up how was that for you?
Speaker 4: So a couple of things were going on at that time,
Speaker 4: So in the section that I was in, the sun
Speaker 4: was just bearing down on us, and it was kind
Speaker 4: of hard to see the ring at that moment. But
Speaker 4: then as Jelly Rull started performing, and honestly, he sounded
Speaker 4: pretty good, and I didn't mind looking away from the
Speaker 4: ring at that moment. And then the sun started to
Speaker 4: go down just enough so that the stadium's structure was
Speaker 4: blocking it. So then at that point it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: they planned this pretty well with timing and everything, so
Speaker 4: it wasn't going to be an issue. So honestly, I
Speaker 4: was pretty pleased. And Jelly Rule sounded good. I'm not
Speaker 4: like a huge, huge fan of him or anything, but
Speaker 4: he's not somebody that I'll ever say that I'm like
Speaker 4: hating on. He sounded pretty good that night, and I
Speaker 4: thought he did America the Beautiful very well.
Speaker 1: Michael, how do you feel what I'm hearing here is
Speaker 1: that showet Jelly Roll has eclipsed the sun.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm getting out of this right now. I
Speaker 3: hate to say that that's just wrong. Actually, I do
Speaker 3: stand up for what Jelly Role has done as far
Speaker 3: as going to Congress to get and fetamines taken off
Speaker 3: the streets. Uh, nobody's seen those YouTube clips. I highly
Speaker 3: recommend that you see this because the stand that he's
Speaker 3: taking against drugs is very, very important. So while he's
Speaker 3: not a musician that I listened to at all, uh,
Speaker 3: he's a human being that I get behind one. Now,
Speaker 3: with that being said, as far as people opening up
Speaker 3: in a particular venue, I always liked somebody who is
Speaker 3: more indigenous to it. However, Cleveland, it's it's a hodgepodge
Speaker 3: of what you could get there, like Machine Gun Kelly.
Speaker 3: Come on, No one wants to see that anymore. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean the biggest, the biggest rock band. Well, one
Speaker 3: of the biggest rock bands that never really got mainstream
Speaker 3: success from Cleveland was a band called mushroom Head, mostly
Speaker 3: because they were ripped off by lip Not. But the
Speaker 3: fact is, if you put the original lineup up there
Speaker 3: and you said mushroom Heads or Cleveland's own mushroom Head,
Speaker 3: the place would have come unhinged. But of course their
Speaker 3: act is not going to play America the Beautiful.
Speaker 2: So I was okay with it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have nothing against it, honestly, it's just
Speaker 3: it's something just to add to say we had one
Speaker 3: more name in the place. A lot of times they'll
Speaker 3: play America the Beautiful or anything else off camera before
Speaker 3: like pre show or before the show actually starts so
Speaker 3: they can get right into the action.
Speaker 2: So it was I think it was.
Speaker 3: Very tastefully done, and I'm glad that he could help
Speaker 3: out getting you some shade.
Speaker 1: All right, Moving on, So, you know, everybody's been given
Speaker 1: their reviews like crazy. Everywhere you turn, someone's reviewing this thing.
Speaker 1: We're lucky we have the in person perspective from you, Maverick.
Speaker 1: We know we had two turns, three title changes, the
Speaker 1: blood of Food between Punk and McIntire get hotter, and
Speaker 1: we had the travel Chief return. So let's just stop
Speaker 1: with the tart. What's at the top. The big thing
Speaker 1: I died to live and mommy match was the Dominick turn.
Speaker 2: This was job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was jaw dropping for me. How did you feel?
Speaker 1: And then how did the people are around you in
Speaker 1: your area or just in the in general the whole
Speaker 1: stadium respond Because I felt like the stadium being open,
Speaker 1: I didn't get to really hear how the people felt.
Speaker 4: Uh So let me think here so match itself was
Speaker 4: pretty good. I remember Tim and I were both saying,
Speaker 4: you know what, it was very serviceable. I really enjoyed
Speaker 4: watching it, and then afterwards seeing the turn from Dominic.
Speaker 4: I remember some people were kind of saying like, how
Speaker 4: could you turn on mommy? But then other people were
Speaker 4: kind of like, I would I mean it's lived, and
Speaker 4: then other people around me were just like why wouldn't
Speaker 4: he And just looking at the both of them, it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I could understand either way right now. And
Speaker 4: that's kind of where a lot of us sat. And
Speaker 4: it was fun hearing every buddy all at once just
Speaker 4: scream oh as soon as he kissed her, that was
Speaker 4: that duge deal.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much what happened here in my household between
Speaker 1: me and mister rocket Tea.
Speaker 2: I said that, Oh. She was like how could you?
Speaker 2: And I was like why why would you?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: This match opened up twenty minutes, so between from from
Speaker 1: bed to bell, I mean, you're right, very so service
Speaker 1: will match? Uh Gardner, did you catch anything live or did.
Speaker 2: You even get to watch watch it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I watched it live, and I gotta say, like, on
Speaker 3: a one to ten scale, I gave this match a
Speaker 3: solid six point five when my expectation was a four
Speaker 3: point seven. So I love the fact that week by
Speaker 3: week Dominic looks.
Speaker 2: Sleazier and sleezier.
Speaker 3: I mean that mullet mustache combo. In the nineties, we
Speaker 3: call that like the pedophile special. Okay, So it's it's
Speaker 3: he's taking it like a butt, like he needs to
Speaker 3: trim that thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, like he needs to shave.
Speaker 3: That caterpillar off his off his upper lip, or trim
Speaker 3: that down and trim that mullet a little bit.
Speaker 2: We get it.
Speaker 3: You're trying to be Eddie. Eddie never looked that sleazy.
Speaker 3: Eddie looked greasy. He didn't look sleazy. I kind of
Speaker 3: felt it was coming. But I really enjoyed the match.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the athleticism. Very few minor botch takes. Nothing
Speaker 3: that really stands out to me, just once or twice,
Speaker 3: an accidental spin around when you should have been there
Speaker 3: in front of them kind of thing. But they recouped
Speaker 3: for it really fast, and they were good with the
Speaker 3: camera as far as quick cuts to the audience for reactions,
Speaker 3: so we didn't pay attention to maybe a missed spot.
Speaker 3: It was very low in miss spots. And to believe that,
Speaker 3: to believe that Live can be in Rhea's world is
Speaker 3: now very much appropriate, and we can elevate Live to
Speaker 3: that higher tier the Charlotte Teer. Maybe she gets Sasha
Speaker 3: banks old spot, you know, because Sasha could go and
Speaker 3: she was smaller.
Speaker 2: Live can go. She's smaller.
Speaker 3: It creates also the dynamic of taking on smaller opponents.
Speaker 3: When Alexa bliss Or initially comes back and you know,
Speaker 3: Ali Yes helped me out here, Tia Trinidad Malchi Black's
Speaker 3: wife Selena Vega, I mean, she can really go. So
Speaker 3: we have a smaller person who can fight a mid
Speaker 3: sized person who can fight a larger female. So we
Speaker 3: have something really good going on with Live, I think,
Speaker 3: and I think that she can play this pretentious role
Speaker 3: and this I'm so hot roll way better than like
Speaker 3: Carmela or some of the other people before her could.
Speaker 3: So I rather see her in this role than somebody
Speaker 3: like Alexa, who I think is going to be a
Speaker 3: better fit with the Wya at seven. But that's just
Speaker 3: me and so Rock, what did you think?
Speaker 2: Like fully for the result? Man?
Speaker 1: I was I was so happy with from top to bottom,
Speaker 1: the entrances, the story they told the pace that they fought,
Speaker 1: the interference from Dom, the two Oblivions, and somebody correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but I know Matt had set
Speaker 1: this stat as early as last month. But the Oblivion
Speaker 1: Lives finish has been one of the most protected moves
Speaker 1: in the sense that nobody has kicked out of it.
Speaker 1: I believe that Rhea's kickout is the first ever for
Speaker 1: the first Oblivion that we saw, so I think she
Speaker 1: actually did something. There's some history there, but it was
Speaker 1: the finish for me that really did it.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 1: As soon as the bell wrong, you saw camera Panta
Speaker 1: Doom the smile, and as soon as I saw a smile,
Speaker 1: I knew, and then the way they had the camera
Speaker 1: on her when she was holding the belt right before
Speaker 1: he came up and embraced her, it was perfect camera work.
Speaker 2: It was just it was great.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'd like to add in real quick, I
Speaker 4: don't mean to cut you off, Rocky ahead. The one
Speaker 4: thing that I want to add in that I did
Speaker 4: see was as soon as Dom took the chair out
Speaker 4: of Ray's hands. That was something that the crowd around
Speaker 4: me it was like really concerned and starting to say,
Speaker 4: like he's starting honor that was the start of it
Speaker 4: for us, it felt like and that kind of put
Speaker 4: a seat in my head like could it be? I
Speaker 4: couldn't tell at that point, and then it eventually did happen,
Speaker 4: you know, And that was kind of that moment where
Speaker 4: everybody lost it for a second in the ring or
Speaker 4: in the arena.
Speaker 1: I should say, yeah, I felt that too, But when
Speaker 1: I saw the smile, I knew and I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are not I am,
Speaker 1: but let's move on. So our first match had a
Speaker 1: title retention. Our second match had a new champion, new
Speaker 1: Intercontinental champion, Braun Breaker. We know people are saying, maybe
Speaker 1: it's too soon. What was atmospher like for that match?
Speaker 1: And then Michael tell me what you think it might
Speaker 1: have been too soon for him?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: So that match it felt fast in my opinion. It
Speaker 4: didn't really feel like it went very long.
Speaker 2: But twelve minutes, yeah.
Speaker 4: It felt well. I guess we did could just come
Speaker 4: off a twenty minute match earlier in that so it
Speaker 4: did feel quicker. But I remember just thinking like, he's
Speaker 4: not bad, He's pretty good in the ring. The match itself,
Speaker 4: I had no complaints about it's just how fast it went.
Speaker 4: It kind of made me question like is his stamina
Speaker 4: loo or is there something else that could be wrong here?
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you don't need every match
Speaker 4: to be, you know, twenty thirty minutes, So I get it.
Speaker 4: But I do really like Sammy's ayn. I'm kind of
Speaker 4: a mark for that guy. But you know, I think
Speaker 4: Braun maybe as intercontinental depending on how long he keeps it.
Speaker 4: This could be a good or bad thing. Only time's
Speaker 4: really gonna tell, honestly, all right, So I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna get into how I feel about this.
Speaker 3: This is a difficult match to watch for me, not
Speaker 3: because of the performance, but because the fact that I
Speaker 3: like both people. I've never been a fan of someone
Speaker 3: just getting the rocket straight out of the gate and
Speaker 3: strapped to the moon. And of course Braun already had
Speaker 3: one speed bump with Sammy. With the fact is I
Speaker 3: do think it is a bit early. I think that
Speaker 3: there's other stories that you could tell with Braun, as
Speaker 3: far as not putting a title on him to build
Speaker 3: him up into the next upper echelon. In fact, instead
Speaker 3: of a title, I would push him up until next
Speaker 3: year's King of the Ring and they make him King
Speaker 3: of the Ring without all the speaking in you know,
Speaker 3: the thick English accent and carrying a scepter and cape.
Speaker 3: But I think it would be better for him to
Speaker 3: have feuds with like mo over them is no one
Speaker 3: likes him. Take out Waller, you know, take out go
Speaker 3: to battle with Seamus, you know, tie that up, so
Speaker 3: Seamus isn't in the upper tier. These are the people
Speaker 3: that you could build the next year with him above
Speaker 3: and then go into the King of the Ring tournament,
Speaker 3: win the King of the Ring and then you.
Speaker 2: Can get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you could either get the title match at
Speaker 3: SummerSlam or you know, you could still be slid into
Speaker 3: the intercontinental tier now that the belt actually means something
Speaker 3: again and it's starting to have more credibility. Uh, the
Speaker 3: fact that they've played hot potato with it since Goonter law,
Speaker 3: that's that's not It doesn't say much for Sammy being
Speaker 3: the one to this phone Gunter. It doesn't say much
Speaker 3: for Gunter. And what's it gonna say for Braun if
Speaker 3: they take it off him right away when his next
Speaker 3: challenger say braunz Stroman. So that's another guy you want
Speaker 3: me to believe in? Broun Breaker having go into a
Speaker 3: few with braun Stroman.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.
Speaker 3: Potential to build this character and this particular athlete, in
Speaker 3: this particular wrestler without putting a title on him this early,
Speaker 3: and without damaging Sammy's credibility as a person with butterfingers
Speaker 3: every time he touched his goal.
Speaker 2: So that's how I felt about that.
Speaker 1: Quick side note they spelled his name with two k's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just really realizing that looking at the match card here. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, so I know the
Speaker 1: atmosphere jumped up for our next match, the United States
Speaker 1: Championship match. This was our one of our other title
Speaker 1: changes of the night. What was the atmosphere like there
Speaker 1: for you, MAV? What was going on with this match?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: So they did a pretty good job of playing it
Speaker 4: up before the match had started, and there wasn't really
Speaker 4: too much of a mention of Logan Paul being from Cleveland,
Speaker 4: at least not in the stadium, but I remember everybody
Speaker 4: already knew and then seeing him come out in the
Speaker 4: browns colored gear, you know, the brown and orange people
Speaker 4: saw it but didn't really say much about it, and
Speaker 4: seeing MGK come out, some people were for it. Some
Speaker 4: people were just like meah, and people were still going
Speaker 4: nuts for La Knight when he came out up to
Speaker 4: that point. That was the biggest pop and it was
Speaker 4: really nice to see La Night perform live. I will
Speaker 4: say the match itself wasn't bad. It had a couple
Speaker 4: of high spots. I really liked seeing Logan Paul. However,
Speaker 4: after he did whatever it was that it was off
Speaker 4: the ropes to the outside. There was a point where
Speaker 4: the crowd started chanting you still suck, and it kind
Speaker 4: of brought me back to some old matches that I
Speaker 4: was thinking about. But overall, match was very good. The
Speaker 4: crowd was really responding to it a lot, especially the
Speaker 4: younger fans were really behind La Night. But honestly, I've
Speaker 4: got to say I'm really happy with the match result
Speaker 4: because Night I felt like he really deserved it after
Speaker 4: watching just that one match. I haven't seen much of
Speaker 4: him up until now, but that was very well done
Speaker 4: and I really can appreciate seeing they didn't just give
Speaker 4: it to the kid because it's his hometown. They just said,
Speaker 4: you know what, it's not always worth that this other
Speaker 4: guy he'll get a bigger pop out of.
Speaker 2: It or whatever.
Speaker 4: So h Gardner, what do you think then?
Speaker 3: The biggest disappointment to me was not having an appearance
Speaker 3: by Caine. Now you're gonna ask me why, because last
Speaker 3: time I saw Machine Gun Kelly Caine was choked slamming
Speaker 3: him to.
Speaker 2: Hell in Cleveland. I remember that, and.
Speaker 3: I think he's done it more than once. So it
Speaker 3: would have made my day if if La Knight got
Speaker 3: in some kind of turmoil Machine Gun Kelly was trying
Speaker 3: to help uh Logan Paul and then out of like
Speaker 3: from under the ring, Cain comes out and La Night
Speaker 3: like laughing, maybe even like a little pre record like
Speaker 3: I've got an insurance policy for your friend. That that
Speaker 3: could have been a little bit of fun. But it
Speaker 3: didn't spoil them. The match was great. There was a
Speaker 3: lot of good high spots balanced out. I give Logan
Speaker 3: his props because I'm never a fan of celebrities crossing
Speaker 3: over into wrestling. But this guy's done his work. This
Speaker 3: guy has done his work, and in real life, he's
Speaker 3: tough his nails, and he's very credible as far as
Speaker 3: being a wrestler, and I gotta say like the selling,
Speaker 3: he's improved on his selling so much. Now as far
Speaker 3: as La Knight goes. I've been following Eli Drake. I
Speaker 3: still call him by his old name. When he was
Speaker 3: performing in TNA all the way through NWA and everybody
Speaker 3: knew that he had the tools, and he washed off
Speaker 3: the stink of Max Dupree really fast. A lot of
Speaker 3: people can't wash off that stink that they get from
Speaker 3: a bad gimmick or a bad angle. Just ask shins Kakamura.
Speaker 3: With the loss of Gender Mahal, It's just it's always
Speaker 3: going to plague him for the rest of his life.
Speaker 3: So to watch La Night, Eli Drake, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call him, get his comeuppance on the big stage,
Speaker 3: that was really rewarding. To be the person who took
Speaker 3: out a guy who's legitimately beat up tough people in
Speaker 3: real life.
Speaker 2: Is come uping. There's a positive upside to.
Speaker 3: This whole angle and whole grind that they're going to
Speaker 3: put into it. What I see a rematch? Could I see?
Speaker 3: This is the only one time I could say a
Speaker 3: little bit of hot potato between the two trade it
Speaker 3: back two months at a time, and then put it
Speaker 3: back on La Night for a while, and then when
Speaker 3: La Night eventually loses the title, it would still be
Speaker 3: to a bitter Logan Paul interfering, which would be another
Speaker 3: big blowoff match. So out of the two guys, we
Speaker 3: could get a series of six matches, but we'd all
Speaker 3: be rewarded by it. So that's kind of where I
Speaker 3: am on this whole situation. But they did the right thing,
Speaker 3: and honestly, I was really happy with it, and I
Speaker 3: don't think.
Speaker 2: The match could have went better.
Speaker 3: There was a couple of slop spots, but I watched
Speaker 3: for that stuff because I've been watching this well over
Speaker 3: thirty years.
Speaker 2: What about you rock Well, Like I said, this is
Speaker 2: what I knew.
Speaker 1: The atmosphere had started to go up on this when
Speaker 1: I could hear it in the crowd. I love Logan
Speaker 1: Paul's gear. I love the guy's gimmick, his presence. He
Speaker 1: just understands how to be a jerk, how to work
Speaker 1: the fans, how to talk, how to walk. He just
Speaker 1: he gets it coming out of and the gear saying
Speaker 1: you're from the city, but you're really not, because you're
Speaker 1: from the suburbs of the city.
Speaker 2: It's just it plays into that hero so perfectly.
Speaker 1: This kid is just be honest, ears a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to watch. I do need to correct myself, though
Speaker 1: there was four title changes on this night, not three.
Speaker 1: So moving on into the next title change of the night,
Speaker 1: w W Women's Championship match, Queen Naya Jacks win's your
Speaker 1: first woman's title from Bailey WW with this title to
Speaker 1: be exact, what was this like where there are cheers
Speaker 1: for Bailey, where their booze?
Speaker 2: How do people feel.
Speaker 1: About the night wind because I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people have mixed reactions about this one.
Speaker 4: All right, so this one, this is where the crowd
Speaker 4: actually died out for a minute, and I remember seeing
Speaker 4: so many people leaving the stands at that point once
Speaker 4: Naya came out. That was what seemed like the bathroom
Speaker 4: break in the stadium for a minute. And as I'm watching,
Speaker 4: there's some people that were all over Naya, And honestly,
Speaker 4: there was a lot more cheered for Bailey, and it
Speaker 4: was interesting just to hear that people are now more
Speaker 4: behind Nya than they used to be. But they kept
Speaker 4: calling her queen and everything. I'm kind of sitting there like,
Speaker 4: all right, she did win Queen of the Ring and everything,
Speaker 4: but you know, I want to see better performances out
Speaker 4: of her because I haven't seen her I'll be honest
Speaker 4: with you guys, I haven't watched Smack Down a Rod
Speaker 4: leading up to this, so this was just kind of
Speaker 4: I went in and was kind of blind to a
Speaker 4: lot of things. But seeing the match overall, I didn't
Speaker 4: think it was bad. But the crowd reaction because everybody
Speaker 4: kind of left and went to the bathroom for a
Speaker 4: lot of it, it wasn't as big of a deal,
Speaker 4: and overall the match was fine. It was service bullet
Speaker 4: to be. It was just solid five out of ten.
Speaker 4: Nothing special, but nothing bad, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean the match run fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: There were some good spots, there were some good trade backs. Gardner,
Speaker 1: are you guys having to say, let's hear it.
Speaker 3: Fifteen minutes is about five minutes too long for what
Speaker 3: I would have put into this.
Speaker 2: So my next thing is.
Speaker 3: With this, is she going to join the bloodline or
Speaker 3: is she just going to injure her next opponent.
Speaker 4: I do have one other thing to add though, real quick.
Speaker 4: I've just forgotten about it, but Tiffany Stratton coming out
Speaker 4: with the money in the bank. What I would have
Speaker 4: wanted to have seen after Naia won it was if
Speaker 4: Stratton would have cashed in on her directly after that.
Speaker 4: That's what I would have liked to have seen.
Speaker 3: I mean, the build is there, and I think that
Speaker 3: they wanted to give us a slow tease, so we'd
Speaker 3: wait till Monday or Friday. However, I just there's nothing
Speaker 3: about this that excites me. Bailey's very talented, very underrated,
Speaker 3: and of course that was her gimmick for a long time,
Speaker 3: but really she is, and she is an upper echelon.
Speaker 3: She was one of the four horse women. She is
Speaker 3: way better than anybody ever gives her credit for. And
Speaker 3: I mean Nia was fired for being a klutz. N
Speaker 3: I was fired for being sloppy. So you know, I
Speaker 3: get that her family, I oh, let me put it
Speaker 3: this way. I get that her family is basically the
Speaker 3: most important family to pro wrestling right now. However, she's
Speaker 3: the weakest link on a chain to the biggest family
Speaker 3: in pro wrestling right now. I mean, she hasn't screened
Speaker 3: my hole yet, So we'll see if that happens on
Speaker 3: another championship run, or we'll see if she injures somebody.
Speaker 3: If she injures somebody, I see, you're getting her walking
Speaker 3: papers again, because it's at this point it's like, how
Speaker 3: long do we have to fire you for you to
Speaker 3: get together? So I think this is a premature award,
Speaker 3: and I think that there are more talented women who
Speaker 3: could hold that strap. And I think there's more talented
Speaker 3: women that they out of the company that could hold
Speaker 3: that strap, like Asasha Banks, like a Tony Storm.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're rewarding someone who hurts people.
Speaker 1: So my whole well, they're gonna definitely give her some
Speaker 1: runway with it. I mean that's kind of the point,
Speaker 1: like you said, the most important family. So we'll see
Speaker 1: how the fans continue to react to her. We'll see
Speaker 1: what kind of storyline they give her to really sink into.
Speaker 1: And to add to your to your thought real quick, Maverick,
Speaker 1: about wanting to see the cash in from Tiffany that's
Speaker 1: still there, because Tiffany can help or be ringside anytime
Speaker 1: Nya has a defense, and she can still we can
Speaker 1: still see that at any point she can still cash
Speaker 1: in attack Naya or Naya maybe has you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a some kind street fighter, whatever kind of match that
Speaker 1: words her down. Tiffany can still catch in at any time.
Speaker 1: So absolutely that would work. But let's move into our
Speaker 1: only non type match or just no title match at
Speaker 1: all involved in this match at all. The six month
Speaker 1: oh seven month blood feud leading it back for Royal
Speaker 1: Rumble Seem Pump versus Drew McIntyre. Special guest referee Sef
Speaker 1: Franklin rawlins.
Speaker 2: I know the crowd was into this one. Oh, I
Speaker 2: was pumped for this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were all into this one. This one was
Speaker 4: honestly a very good match, and the story behind the bracelet,
Speaker 4: as silly as it was, it even got me even
Speaker 4: more into it that I'm like, what has been going
Speaker 4: on in this story line? But they're fighting over this bracelet.
Speaker 3: I think it's a perfect example that a title they
Speaker 3: say is a prop, but he's using something of entitlement
Speaker 3: as a prop and it's it's working. It's giving us
Speaker 3: a real reason to watch. We're getting a real story here,
Speaker 3: a real invested story, and it's between three people. So
Speaker 3: this is gonna last six months. It ties up three
Speaker 3: very talented people, but three talented people, and that's the
Speaker 3: thing that is awesome because that is a way of
Speaker 3: keeping good workers working together and not putting them in
Speaker 3: stupid ass storylines with you know, a town down or
Speaker 3: something like that. And it's nothing against those guys, they're
Speaker 3: just not in the same league. So you see them
Speaker 3: go up against the seeing Punk or Drew McIntyre or
Speaker 3: god forbid a tag team of the two, you know
Speaker 3: they're going to get mowed over. So I love the
Speaker 3: fact that these three are going to be intertwined for
Speaker 3: a while, and these three are going to be hurting
Speaker 3: each other for a while, and these three First of all,
Speaker 3: let me start out with everybody knows that I'm a
Speaker 3: huge fan of my twin brother Punk, And the other
Speaker 3: thing people should know is I believe that making Drew
Speaker 3: win was the right decision, yep, And I feel that
Speaker 3: they did it in the best way. I think they
Speaker 3: did it in a very great storytelling way. I only
Speaker 3: counted one botch in the match. I think that was
Speaker 3: Punk's initial lift when he couldn't quite get him straight.
Speaker 3: But aside from that, I mean, you've got Seth playing
Speaker 3: mister Miniacle, you have Drew playing the Scottish psychopath again,
Speaker 3: which I love. No more sword, no mosch, stupid music,
Speaker 3: no more, no more god awful. But he had a
Speaker 3: title reign and they just squandered it. And then you
Speaker 3: have Punk being Punk. That's all you need. The match
Speaker 3: was great. You couldn't tell Punk was almost fifty years old.
Speaker 3: I mean you can, but he's still better than you know,
Speaker 3: like the miz So. But like, seriously, he's he shook
Speaker 3: off his ring rush that he showed in AW. Obviously
Speaker 3: he's taking his time down in XT coming in as
Speaker 3: a coach down.
Speaker 2: There, very serious as his rehab.
Speaker 3: So there was no there was no bad tire on
Speaker 3: that car and that vehicles still driving.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing about it has already been going on
Speaker 1: since they were a Roambu January. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: few to the year, like hands down.
Speaker 4: It could be. And something that the crowd really uh
Speaker 4: went nuts over was just seeing Robins put on the
Speaker 4: bracelet and I just thought it was so goofy looking
Speaker 4: for a minute and I'm kind of questioning it. I
Speaker 4: asked the guy next to me that I didn't even know, like, hey, so,
Speaker 4: what the heck's is significance of it. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this guy's like wife's and his dog's name on it
Speaker 4: or something. I'm like, that's it, and Seth's putting out
Speaker 4: I thought it was like he's just wearing it for
Speaker 4: the moment until the match is over. To give it
Speaker 4: back to Punk or something, but then ended up being
Speaker 4: a bigger part of the match. And it was like,
Speaker 4: I've never seen grown men fight over a bracelet. I've
Speaker 4: seen them fight over the belts, but this is a
Speaker 4: new one. I've seen them fight over the custody of
Speaker 4: Dominic Mysterio, but never a friendship bracelet like this.
Speaker 3: I got to ask, who do you think produces this,
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna bet that it's Punk Rollins and Drew
Speaker 3: that kind of came up with this, And of course
Speaker 3: Punk's producers a steal and you don't hire Punk without Ace,
Speaker 3: so I'm sure he had something to do with it.
Speaker 3: Now you have arn Anderson back, Now you have Spie
Speaker 3: Go back. There's a lot of brilliant minds who could
Speaker 3: have put into this and said, hey, this isn't a title,
Speaker 3: but this is something that you guys could each steal
Speaker 3: from each other and have rights to. And it makes
Speaker 3: one man man mad and the other two vindictive and
Speaker 3: vengeful towards each other.
Speaker 1: This is brilliant, and it's so brilliant over like you said,
Speaker 1: apprenticeship brace it was it ninety nine cents, maybe not
Speaker 1: even I mean, these are these are bracelets that are
Speaker 1: made in daycares like. But the significance of AJ's name,
Speaker 1: Larry the Dog's name on there. Punk's just it's just
Speaker 1: the mass these masterful guys putting his storyline.
Speaker 2: Together and making everybody care. That's just. That's how good
Speaker 2: resting his right now, that's great.
Speaker 1: So let's move into something that was I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is better, but this is it was also great,
Speaker 1: and that is our new world heavyweight champion.
Speaker 2: That ring general Gunter.
Speaker 4: Thoughts all right, So this match starting out, it was
Speaker 4: almost even with the chance for both of them because
Speaker 4: Priest has I want to say, he's come a long way.
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember seeing him as a evil Martinez
Speaker 4: I believe back in roh and he's come a long way.
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed seeing him enter the ring as he
Speaker 4: is now and then seeing Gunther. I think he's gained
Speaker 4: a lot of respect over the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: He's really done great work. His Intercontinental run was very,
Speaker 4: very good, and I can really appreciate all the improvements
Speaker 4: that he's made, especially to his physique. He's really slimmed
Speaker 4: down a little bit more. But match itself awesome. I
Speaker 4: have no other words really to put it, And I
Speaker 4: thought that the title change was still tasteful. But Finn turning,
Speaker 4: I didn't really expect to see that, but it was
Speaker 4: pretty cool to see it happen once again. And Finn,
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is about. He can make
Speaker 4: just such an evil looking face like that, just so
Speaker 4: scummy for a minute when he turned on him and
Speaker 4: just staring at him with like just that disdain. You
Speaker 4: can almost feel it when we were watching it live
Speaker 4: like that, and everybody felt it around me. Gardner, would
Speaker 4: you think I love this?
Speaker 2: I absolutely love this.
Speaker 3: First of all, I think that putting the title on
Speaker 3: Priest was premature. I get that he was a McMahon guy.
Speaker 3: He has the look he has to seek. He's not
Speaker 3: a bad performer at all. He's not in the same
Speaker 3: league as Gunther. I mean, I still have a hard
Speaker 3: time not calling him Walter because I watched him for
Speaker 3: over ten years as Walter. But the fact that this
Speaker 3: was built about two upstarts. One one won a title
Speaker 3: because he took advantage of money in the bank. The
Speaker 3: other won the title because his friend turned on him. Now,
Speaker 3: if this builds Balor versus Priest, I hate it because
Speaker 3: I'm a huge Balor fan too, and he's being underutilized
Speaker 3: and I don't want to see him really just become
Speaker 3: fodder to Damien Priest. What people don't realize is, originally
Speaker 3: when they ousted Edge from the judgment day, it was
Speaker 3: Balor who was the leader. But it was the push,
Speaker 3: the non forgiving push that Vince McMahon was trying to
Speaker 3: give Damien Priest because it was one of his guys.
Speaker 3: That's what put him in more of the driver's seat.
Speaker 3: And then of course Ripley has a charisma that's unstoppable
Speaker 3: and that's what put her in the passenger seat, and
Speaker 3: everybody else took the backseat, and it was really sad
Speaker 3: and for Finn, I hope this catapults him back into
Speaker 3: main event caliber matches, main event cal feuds, and more
Speaker 3: main event caliber everything, because he deserves that. Now, with
Speaker 3: that being said, though the match itself was great, it
Speaker 3: was a hass match. We had a lot of like
Speaker 3: just it sounded like people were snapping celery every time
Speaker 3: they hit each other. It sounded like people were snapping
Speaker 3: carrots every time they hit each other. I know, I'm
Speaker 3: quite the gardener, but that's what it sounds like if
Speaker 3: you really do it right, and I can't tell you
Speaker 3: it was a great match. How long did it go?
Speaker 2: Rock? Twenty five minutes?
Speaker 3: And I think it was probably five minutes overdue, especially
Speaker 3: the fact that you saw Ballor go for the leg
Speaker 3: once then back off, so we all knew the finish
Speaker 3: at that point, so I wish they would have finished
Speaker 3: it then maybe at least shaved two minutes off at
Speaker 3: that point. That's the only complaint I had with it,
Speaker 3: aside from that the right winner. This has been a
Speaker 3: long time in the making, and obviously, when the Undertaker
Speaker 3: himself says on his own podcast, if there's anybody from
Speaker 3: today's era you'd like to have a match with it WrestleMania,
Speaker 3: He's like, gunther No, I mean, could you match those
Speaker 3: two in their primes?
Speaker 2: I'd love to. I'd love to.
Speaker 3: How about this gun Through tagging with Priest against the
Speaker 3: Brothers of Destruction all in their primes?
Speaker 4: Oh god?
Speaker 2: How we got that Boss match Man Boss.
Speaker 1: Match Fantasy book and stuff all day?
Speaker 2: But okay, we have got the Bootscooter and boog Yon so.
Speaker 1: Blood rules match for the Undisputed WWE Championship, also twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes long Cody Roads versus Solo Socoa. Real quick,
Speaker 1: how did y'all feel about Cody accepting the.
Speaker 2: Blood Line match?
Speaker 1: We know why it was done, but before we knew
Speaker 1: on Friday, when he accepted it on SmackDown, I mean,
Speaker 1: people were like, this has got to be the dumbest
Speaker 1: baby face in the history. Why would you accept another
Speaker 1: blood line bulls match? Your backup has been taking out.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we know what happened, but what did
Speaker 1: y'all initially think or feelings about it?
Speaker 3: Dumbest babyface in the history, honestly. Honestly, there's always that
Speaker 3: one storyline where they knew one thing too much. That's
Speaker 3: why they accept it. You know, they don't show it
Speaker 3: till that day, but we can all figure it out.
Speaker 3: Everybody knew Roman was coming back. I think everybody and
Speaker 3: their brother knew that Roman was coming back, so we
Speaker 3: knew that there's gonna be some kind of protection. To me,
Speaker 3: the highlight of this match was before the match, and
Speaker 3: you know what that is. When he's going through the
Speaker 3: Arn Anderson going through the back put back back curtain
Speaker 3: right through Gorilla and Arn did the gun motion, but
Speaker 3: he didn't put the thumb up because you know WWE,
Speaker 3: and he said, I made some calls and have some backup.
Speaker 3: You knew right then that Roman Reigns was going to
Speaker 3: take you know, make a personal appearance. So it wasn't
Speaker 3: a surprise on who was going to win and how
Speaker 3: it was going to happen and how it was going
Speaker 3: to go down. It was just who was going to
Speaker 3: show up and back them up? And it was It
Speaker 3: was a good match. It's it's actually exactly what I expected.
Speaker 3: Another one that could have been shaved five minutes off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mav the Cody's entrance, the camera following him from
Speaker 1: the bus with Pharaoh.
Speaker 2: The dog walking back all the way through.
Speaker 1: What was there? How was the crowd during that time?
Speaker 1: Right there?
Speaker 4: They all got on their.
Speaker 1: Feet, Okay, anybody yelling, hurry up, anybody like just anything?
Speaker 2: Sound?
Speaker 4: Actually it was actually pretty quiet from what I remember,
Speaker 4: but seeing what was going on, everybody stood up immediately
Speaker 4: seeing Champs about to come out and seeing arn Anderson,
Speaker 4: everybody had this wave of just WHOA for a second,
Speaker 4: you know, but uh, I just remember him coming out
Speaker 4: with that uh that helmet that he had on. People
Speaker 4: kind of got a kick out of it. Some people
Speaker 4: were giving a little extra into their cheering for it.
Speaker 4: But up to that point I thought it was going
Speaker 4: to be the loudest pop of the night because I
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know if Roman will come back.
Speaker 4: The Rock could come back for all I knew. But
Speaker 4: that point, everybody was pretty excited to see Cody come
Speaker 4: out and a match itself very good, but it felt
Speaker 4: a little long towards the end. I'll say this bloodline
Speaker 4: rules stuff I'm not a huge fan of. I find
Speaker 4: it is just like one of the cheaper kind of
Speaker 4: gimmicks that WWE's come up and kind of shove down
Speaker 4: our throats at this point. It's not really conducive to anything.
Speaker 4: In my opinion. It works for the characters right now,
Speaker 4: but I just kind of hate seeing it because it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we know what's about to happen next. There's always going
Speaker 4: to be these goons almost that are going to run
Speaker 4: in and start helping the champion, and I find it
Speaker 4: gang war ish. I'm not really sure. It feels like
Speaker 4: just something that's not really necessary to an extent, I
Speaker 4: get it, but I'm just not really a fan of it.
Speaker 4: But then seeing Orton and Owen's come out, I was
Speaker 4: kind of like, all right, fifty to fifty shot between
Speaker 4: Roman and the Rock being the last ones. I mean
Speaker 4: seeing Rains When he stepped out at the very end,
Speaker 4: that's when the crowd really really popped, and it was
Speaker 4: the loudest that I had heard that night. It was
Speaker 4: absolute hands down, and I was very enjoyable to be
Speaker 4: a part of that crowd. Even though I'm not personally Rainsman,
Speaker 4: I kind of find him boring as a character. I
Speaker 4: don't really like the tribal chief constantly being shoved down
Speaker 4: our throat because I felt like he wasn't a fighting
Speaker 4: champion half the time, so I never really cared for him.
Speaker 4: But that night I felt like, you know, he paid
Speaker 4: your dues, and it looks okay right here. How he
Speaker 4: hit solo with the spear, I thought, you know, looked
Speaker 4: pretty good this time. It's not minding him so much
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: If you watch the slow motion or the still photos
Speaker 1: of that spear, the way Roman had his legs almost
Speaker 1: at that ninety degree vertical angle and the way they
Speaker 1: were spread out in the still photo, you can you
Speaker 1: can you.
Speaker 2: Can feel the impact. That's how I know how great
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: Whenever you say that you weren't really filling the travel
Speaker 1: chief character because he wasn't a fighting champion. Well that's
Speaker 1: the great thing about wrestling, because now that he comes
Speaker 1: back as just a fighting tribal chiefe, whether he champion
Speaker 1: or not, as a babyface, all those feelings that you
Speaker 1: have towards him before they get to change because there
Speaker 1: is an elite level status that Roman Reigns lives on
Speaker 1: that because when you're the biggest hell for the last
Speaker 1: four years, people he and want you to leave and
Speaker 1: you drop the title which everybody was wishing, praying for,
Speaker 1: and then immediately a week or two later they're wanting
Speaker 1: you back and you've done nothing that.
Speaker 2: Is It's just absolute, it's god mode.
Speaker 1: So this is just the start of what we're going
Speaker 1: to get going towards wargames, right, that's whatever its.
Speaker 2: Project war Game Survivor series.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: I'm curious.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's everybody knows it's going to be Old
Speaker 3: bloodline versus New bloodline. So it's gonna be Sammy joining
Speaker 3: up the USO's with Roman. I mean, it makes the
Speaker 3: most sense versus Tagalo Tomatonga, Jacob Tattoo and Sola. My
Speaker 3: next question though, is so what is the injury status?
Speaker 2: Does anybody know of Jacob the two?
Speaker 4: Uh So, after that spot where he went outside the
Speaker 4: ring to hit Cody, he was holding on to his ankle. Now,
Speaker 4: some reports are saying that he was told to sell
Speaker 4: his ankle afterwards, but I'm not sure if it was
Speaker 4: supposed to be to that extent, because he really looked
Speaker 4: messed up. I'm not too sure if it was supposed
Speaker 4: to happen like that. He might actually be hurt right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know of any reports or anything that say
Speaker 4: he actually is. I haven't seen anything yet, but that's
Speaker 4: what I saw that night.
Speaker 1: Well, that report of him being told to sell the
Speaker 1: ankle make sense to me, because why else wouldn't if
Speaker 1: he jumped in and and attacked Roman, right, So that
Speaker 1: was actually kind of perfect.
Speaker 3: They're actually not seeing the bigger picture here, Rock. It
Speaker 3: means he's going to go into a blood feud with
Speaker 3: Chad Gable.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because there's actually I don't know
Speaker 1: if either one of you know this.
Speaker 2: WW has signed.
Speaker 1: HICKELOA six four two sixty five the adoptive son nephew
Speaker 1: of Haku, making him the half brother Tutamatonga and Tongaloa.
Speaker 1: So yes, it makes the most sense for Sammy to
Speaker 1: fill that fourth spot. But there's another bloodline member that's
Speaker 1: signed to the roster.
Speaker 3: Oh Hiccoloa. I thought was actually uh Tongaloa Nokia. Okay,
Speaker 3: I got who you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Okay, dude.
Speaker 3: They're just rating Japan left and right. There's nothing left
Speaker 3: of the Bullet Club.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: If they actually signed him, I could see him in
Speaker 3: that spot. But I still see Sammy zan as like
Speaker 3: special guest referee.
Speaker 2: Or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's on five, but yeah, that's I think that would
Speaker 1: be not make the most sense, but I want to
Speaker 1: make it the bloodline versus blood line.
Speaker 3: But they also have Zilifa too in the pipeline, and
Speaker 3: I think that's Rakishi's youngest son or something like that.
Speaker 1: So he he thought he I thought he was AMaGA son.
Speaker 2: It made one of the two, one of the two.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I saw him here in Houston a few months ago.
Speaker 2: A booker t show fast fast grass of a little
Speaker 2: pit bull. U he does uh whenever the.
Speaker 1: His finishers is basically are running some moments spikes when
Speaker 1: they're when the opponents on their knees. He hits the
Speaker 1: ropes twice and does a little sideways running some moments
Speaker 1: Spike pretty cool, like a little dart.
Speaker 3: So mav post show, fireworks everything else.
Speaker 2: What was it like?
Speaker 4: So post show we were seeing Roman standing outside the ring.
Speaker 4: There are some fireworks going off for Cody. He gets
Speaker 4: the title back and everything, but it felt like he
Speaker 4: wasn't really showing it off to the crowd as much.
Speaker 4: He was kind of kept looking back to Roman, and
Speaker 4: Roman kept just staring in the ring between Solo and him. Overall,
Speaker 4: it was a nice atmosphere. Everybody was going home happy.
Speaker 4: A lot of people as soon as that match ended
Speaker 4: were just getting up and leaving because they wanted to
Speaker 4: be traffic or whatever, which wasn't going to happen. Everybody
Speaker 4: was going to get clogged up anyways. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: remember it was a really cool atmosphere to be a
Speaker 4: part of. Just at the end of that And even
Speaker 4: though I'm not really Roman fan, that one moment still
Speaker 4: was like, you know, he did pretty good this time
Speaker 4: no matter what, and I can't take that from him,
Speaker 4: And very enjoyable to be part of Cody himself. God,
Speaker 4: I remember seeing him in roh in a First Blood
Speaker 4: match with Matt Taban for a I believe it was
Speaker 4: rh's TV title and seeing him back then, that is
Speaker 4: when I thought he has moved past the stardust. He's
Speaker 4: gone so much further. Really is a testament to it.
Speaker 4: That was my thought before leaving the arena and everything.
Speaker 4: But overall happy with how the night ended. And one
Speaker 4: thing that we kind of left out there was the segment.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys got to see it,
Speaker 4: but we did in the stadium. We got to see.
Speaker 4: It was a Jelly Roll giving a choke slam to Waller,
Speaker 4: and you know what, he did it pretty well. I
Speaker 4: think Waller jumped up high enough for him to make
Speaker 4: it look great. But it was probably one of the
Speaker 4: best choke slams we've seen in years. I don't know
Speaker 4: if Waller really sold it that hardcore that it just
Speaker 4: looked that good, but man, it really was very good,
Speaker 4: and I give credit to it also our truth mentioning
Speaker 4: the Rock and Roll Express. That was a pretty funny
Speaker 4: moment because I nudged him right beforehand. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're gonna bring them out, and then they actually said
Speaker 4: their names and miss of course corrected them, and we
Speaker 4: just kind of sitting there laughing for a second, like
Speaker 4: there's no way that they could possibly bring those two
Speaker 4: ancient dudes back out of here.
Speaker 2: There's no way they still wrestle.
Speaker 3: They wrestle for NWA and Billy Corgan. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I tell you this is a funny story. I'm going
Speaker 3: an segue for all of you who know who the
Speaker 3: Rock and Roll Express are. They were like twenties heart
Speaker 3: throb tag team from the early eighties, feted with the
Speaker 3: Midnight Express, who were managed by Jim Cornett, who's the
Speaker 3: king of wrestling podcasts. He's number one Louisville. I'm number two, guys,
Speaker 3: So the Rock and Roll Express will not retire. Now,
Speaker 3: about ten twelve years ago, they were out on Beale
Speaker 3: Street and I had a bartender who's into wrestling as
Speaker 3: much as I am.
Speaker 2: His name's Nighthawk.
Speaker 3: Now, you can't understand a damn thing, the guy says,
Speaker 3: because he has four teeth and they're oddly misshapen and
Speaker 3: out of space, so we call it speaking hawknees. But
Speaker 3: he sees them out there, so he goes out and
Speaker 3: talks to him, and I'm looking out the window like
Speaker 3: just running the place, and I was like, who's Hawk
Speaker 3: talking to? And I was like, I recognize those mullets
Speaker 3: and those bandanas tied around their thighs. That's the Rock
Speaker 3: and Roll Express. So went out there and I said, guys,
Speaker 3: it's a big pleasure to meet you, Michael Gross, very
Speaker 3: big pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 2: Shook their hands.
Speaker 3: Look, guys, I want you to be careful about tonight.
Speaker 3: They're like, why, what's up? I said, I heard there's
Speaker 3: a tennis racket on the street, and they both got
Speaker 3: angry and walked off, because that's a homage to Jim
Speaker 3: Cornett who always used to whack Ricky Morton in the
Speaker 3: back with a tennis racket so he could take the
Speaker 3: loss of the Midnight Express. So that was my limited
Speaker 3: meeting with the Rock and Roll Express. But these guys
Speaker 3: are in their seventies and they will not retire. If
Speaker 3: anybody saw the Final Deletion back from twenty sixteen seventeen,
Speaker 3: the Rock and Roll Express, they'd show up at the
Speaker 3: tag team version of The Final Deletion.
Speaker 2: It was like a tag team thing. And then all
Speaker 2: of a.
Speaker 3: Sudden, the doorbell rings and Matt Hardy opens it and
Speaker 3: he's like the express that rocks and rolls and it
Speaker 3: ends up with the hardy boys versus the rock and
Speaker 3: rolls on a scaffold that's being lifted into the sky.
Speaker 2: God, that cinematic stuff was so bad.
Speaker 3: But the point is it wouldn't have surprised me if
Speaker 3: they came out, if they weren't probably indebted to Billy
Speaker 3: Corgan and the NWA, that would have been hilarious. I
Speaker 3: probably would have greased my drawers.
Speaker 2: Well, to say the least, MAV.
Speaker 1: I was absolutely happy for you, but one hundred percent
Speaker 1: jealous of you. I mean, god lest SummerSlam. I mean, geez,
Speaker 1: I know, I think Michael, you know this. So I've
Speaker 1: been to WrestleMania, I've been to Rumble. I want to
Speaker 1: go to a Summer Slam, and I want to go
Speaker 1: to the Survivor Series. I want to be able to
Speaker 1: say I hit the Big Four. But Survivor Series are
Speaker 1: part of the Big Four? Are they moving money in
Speaker 1: the bank in that slot? Yeah, Survivor Series, Okay, because
Speaker 1: I know what these Crown jewels being a big thing,
Speaker 1: you know, overseas and money in the bank trying to
Speaker 1: become a stadium. I didn't know if that was going
Speaker 1: to be a stadium show.
Speaker 3: Now that you've integrated Survivor series of war games. Now
Speaker 3: it's actually palatable and watchable as opposed to like a
Speaker 3: goofy novelty that we bought into in the late eighties.
Speaker 3: So I Survivor series is not going to go away.
Speaker 3: It's just going to be Survivor series war games until
Speaker 3: it's just war games, because war games was.
Speaker 2: Such a better concept.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny because the only live events
Speaker 3: I've ever been to. I went to smack Down a
Speaker 3: couple of months ago, and it was so future I
Speaker 3: walked out, And mostly it was because I sat between
Speaker 3: two rather large, unique smelling women and their unique smelling
Speaker 3: bad breath, and they were very bad marks and every
Speaker 3: time a bad guy came out, they would boo and
Speaker 3: I'd have to smell that breath, and their bodies didn't
Speaker 3: smell much better. I don't know why they just couldn't
Speaker 3: have sat together, but and it was just just not palatable.
Speaker 3: So that you know, that's like, And I've went to
Speaker 3: two raws with my good friend Sean Boyce back in Memphis.
Speaker 3: We were lucky enough that had a friend who had
Speaker 3: a skybox who would uh of a wrestling game.
Speaker 2: He didn't like it.
Speaker 3: He'd say, you know, you guys, take these tickets. And
Speaker 3: I was there for the third return of Chris Jericho,
Speaker 3: so yeah, that was It was just you know, like
Speaker 3: Sean was talking talking me up about it. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're Jericho's going to be there. There were pictures of
Speaker 3: him in the Nashville Airport.
Speaker 2: And all this stuff, and I was like, okay.
Speaker 3: And that night, coincidentally, when we got out, we went
Speaker 3: to a bar I used to run on Beale Street
Speaker 3: called the Blues Hall, and someone produced a scorpion pepper
Speaker 3: and Shawn's known for eating hot peppers, and so they're like,
Speaker 3: if you can eat it and keep it down.
Speaker 2: For ten minutes, we'll give you like fifty sixty dollars.
Speaker 3: I think it was Rodd Bobby Blue Bland's son, the
Speaker 3: godson of bb King. So he gives us to us
Speaker 3: and Sean eats it and he's sweating profusely, and we
Speaker 3: just started doing the whole chant of the boots to
Speaker 3: ass is boots to asses, and he kept it down
Speaker 3: for ten minutes that we walked out back and he's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. He's like that's one of the hottest
Speaker 3: peppers I ever had. But yeah, so that's you know.
Speaker 2: I went to that.
Speaker 3: I went to an original oge c W show. I
Speaker 3: went to go see your uncle Tim Russell once or twice.
Speaker 3: I was supposed to go to a couple of LUCA
Speaker 3: shows that didn't happen. I'm trying to think if I've
Speaker 3: been to anything else. I was supposed to go to
Speaker 3: a w CW Thunder, but I worked at a four
Speaker 3: h camp and couldn't leave for the night. So I
Speaker 3: haven't been to anything like this. And now, Maverick, you've
Speaker 3: been to a record breaking all time attendance record at Wembley, right,
Speaker 3: and you've been now to the all time attendance record
Speaker 3: breaking for wrestling at the Cleveland Brown Stadium.
Speaker 4: Correct. The only other events that I've been to was
Speaker 4: a WWE house show back in what was it which
Speaker 4: taft Falls, Texas, which if you guys didn't know, that's
Speaker 4: where Keith Lee is actually for and also where they
Speaker 4: have a Wrestling Hall of Fame. But the only other
Speaker 4: one before that was the roh Paper view Masters of
Speaker 4: the Craft, which was a lot of fun. Me and
Speaker 4: Tim really enjoyed it. That's where I got to see
Speaker 4: Cody and first blood match and everything. Pats West was.
Speaker 2: It's my first.
Speaker 4: Introduction to Darton Castle, Dalton Castle, Evil Martinez who's now
Speaker 4: Damian Priest, And honestly, I was just probably the Knight
Speaker 4: that really kept me interested in wrestling, because after that,
Speaker 4: I was like, I want to keep watching this after
Speaker 4: seeing it up close again. But yeah, been a couple
Speaker 4: of interesting shows, but I want to go to a
Speaker 4: Mania one day maybe if you know, the opportunity comes,
Speaker 4: but not going to hold my breath if it doesn't,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I had the two Manias in Houston seventeen twenty five,
Speaker 1: a handful of rows of smack downs with the one
Speaker 1: event that was in WWE two thousand and eight, Victory
Speaker 1: Road TNA main event.
Speaker 2: Booker T versus Samoa Joe. You love some Booker T,
Speaker 2: don't you? I do?
Speaker 1: But what was cool about this event because teenage was
Speaker 1: so hot. Dixie Carter was walking around with the belt,
Speaker 1: letting people will take pictures and touch the belt, the
Speaker 1: world title belt.
Speaker 3: Please be a viewer after this, Please be a viewer.
Speaker 1: After I got to touch the TNA title and take
Speaker 1: a picture with it, I no longer have the picture
Speaker 1: because it was on an old phone.
Speaker 2: I didn't have backed up. But that would never happen again.
Speaker 1: But all right, guys, we got to close it out.
Speaker 3: So I want to I want to share a couple
Speaker 3: of things real quick. So I was looking up attendants. Okay, So, Rock,
Speaker 3: do you have your computer open or something that you
Speaker 3: can look up the attendance for sure?
Speaker 2: Sure? Do so?
Speaker 3: Do you think, okay for a stadium, either the black
Speaker 3: Hole in Michigan or Ohio State's Horseshoe would be the
Speaker 3: two biggest stadiums in the United States?
Speaker 4: Okay, in the US?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: And then you okay. However, if they could swing it,
Speaker 3: look up the attendance of the Indianapolis Speedway. That's gonna
Speaker 3: blow your mind.
Speaker 5: Where's that for the black Hole? There we go, Let's
Speaker 5: give me a second. I just gotta be here somewhere,
Speaker 5: Tennis more buck.
Speaker 2: Is what is this?
Speaker 3: The black Holes where the Michigan Wolverines play football? Okay,
Speaker 3: and it seats over one hundred thousand, just like Ohio
Speaker 3: State does. With them being rivals, one will take out
Speaker 3: a concession stand and add twenty more seats just to
Speaker 3: have bigger attendance. Than the other, and they do this
Speaker 3: back and forth they have for ten years.
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of funny.
Speaker 3: But each stadium seats well over one hundred thousand people,
Speaker 3: and I've been outside of the horseshoe at Ohio State.
Speaker 2: It's ginormous.
Speaker 3: However, if you really wanted to set the biggest attendance
Speaker 3: record ever, I would say the Indianapolis Speedway.
Speaker 2: I believe that seats.
Speaker 3: Around two hundred and fifty thousand people. Jesus, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Rock you you're your producer.
Speaker 2: I'm still looking.
Speaker 5: I'm still looking at he's pull up on these other
Speaker 5: articles to fifty.
Speaker 4: Well, if I remember right, I want to say, wasn't
Speaker 4: WCW's collision in Korea show like half a million people
Speaker 4: or something.
Speaker 3: Over three days? Something like that over three days.
Speaker 1: I'm seen a lot of stats here, some of the
Speaker 1: highest record games there.
Speaker 2: And it's not in the US.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm not seeing the one that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: but I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 2: Well, let's take a look Indianapolis Speedway. I'm taking a
Speaker 2: look right now. Okay, you're gonna so I'm a little
Speaker 2: why are you looking at that?
Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed because now that Dominic and Reo
Speaker 1: broken up, I'm gonna have to take down the autograph
Speaker 1: poster I got out of them. It's like, right here
Speaker 1: and Alex will happen together. I can't look at it
Speaker 1: no more.
Speaker 2: Are you ready? Are you ready for this?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Indianapolis five hundreds attendance record is three hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty thousand, which was set in twenty sixteen for the
Speaker 3: hundredth running of the race.
Speaker 2: Yeesh, wow. Now talk about cagged up traffic.
Speaker 3: Now, you would have to make so many accommodations and
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's you know, I I just
Speaker 3: can't fathom how big that is. And I want to
Speaker 3: go see it myself to see if it actually could
Speaker 3: see three hundred and fifty thousand people. But I mean,
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of a bigger How would you sell
Speaker 3: that out?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. It would have to be a mania
Speaker 4: or something, and you'd honestly you said, it's a racetrack, right, Yes,
Speaker 4: Where do you place the ring at that point, just
Speaker 4: in the middle of it all, and then have seats
Speaker 4: all the way leading up to it potentially becoming like
Speaker 4: half a million at that point basically you'd.
Speaker 1: Have to have the ring rotating around the actual track
Speaker 1: like a like a little two chu train track and
Speaker 1: have it rotating around all day.
Speaker 2: And that had to be a three day mania.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Probably.
Speaker 3: I mean with the size of the place, you could
Speaker 3: put three rings in it.
Speaker 2: Okay, because of the way it's designed.
Speaker 3: All on on the grass. So I mean it's it
Speaker 3: could be done. It could be done, and you alternate
Speaker 3: so different people have different main events and things like that.
Speaker 3: But if it can actually seat which I believe comfortably
Speaker 3: like two hundred and fifty something thousand, that that could
Speaker 3: be the biggest ever in the United States, that is.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Shoot, So all right, as we.
Speaker 3: Sign off first of all with the theme that they're
Speaker 3: going to be going overseas soon. Don't we have that
Speaker 3: crown jewel coming up?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: It's September, I believe, let's find out. So what do
Speaker 1: you want to go into team?
Speaker 3: Well, the theme today is going to be your best
Speaker 3: or favorite foreign movie.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Before we were talking, you said you had one right away.
Speaker 4: So I thought about one earlier, but I'm going to
Speaker 4: say a different one because you know, I'm a fan
Speaker 4: of slum Dog Millionaire that's probably one of my favorite
Speaker 4: foreign movies. What about you, Mike.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna say that? No, no, no, I was gonna
Speaker 2: say that one you took it. It looked so hard.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: It's okay, It's just I was I couldn't think.
Speaker 1: And that I remember as I was through researcher.
Speaker 2: But okay, Gardner, Well, you know a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people will go something that's ah appetizer ish, like Snatch,
Speaker 3: which is a fantastic British film. However, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: in a little bit different direction. It's The Devil's Backbone.
Speaker 3: I think I've actually mentioned it on Wrestle Magic once
Speaker 3: or twice before. It is a child's horror movie done
Speaker 3: by Guillermo del Toro.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's set in the Spanish Revolutionary War. It is the
Speaker 3: Shining meets childhood horror, and it's brilliant, brilliantly written, and
Speaker 3: the cinematography on it is mine blowing. It is the
Speaker 3: precursor to Pants Labyrinth. If you've never seen Pants Labyrinth,
Speaker 3: I highly recommend that. So if you like Pants Labyrinth
Speaker 3: and you love The Devil's Backbone and it's one of
Speaker 3: those that you just can't kind of look away from
Speaker 3: because you just got to keep watching. It's not disturbing,
Speaker 3: it's just you realize that their plot holes until the
Speaker 3: end when they tie up everything, and you say, man,
Speaker 3: this is a good movie.
Speaker 1: Enough, Rocky, I was gonna Pinstone dumb Millionaire.
Speaker 2: I don't watch.
Speaker 1: I can't think of any foreign much MOREGN movies that
Speaker 1: I watched. Mostly everything I watch is wrestling.
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I do highly recommend the Dead Will Ring movie.
Speaker 2: Wants to watch it twice? But Foreign? You mentioned Snatch?
Speaker 1: I remember that one as a good British film.
Speaker 2: I just drew a complete blank. Man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Even in the research I found Kim Down like I
Speaker 1: know that one. I like that one.
Speaker 3: And then well, rock have you ever seen Lockstock and
Speaker 3: Two Smoking Barrels?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: If you like Snatch, you'll love that movie too. Okay,
Speaker 3: just trust me on this one. Remember a lot of
Speaker 3: your James Bond was made oversea. Well not a lot,
Speaker 3: but I mean Moonraker was made in outer space.
Speaker 1: Okay, you got me on that one. Godzilla minus one
Speaker 1: I saw that one this year.
Speaker 3: Did you ever see shin Godzilla? That was a great one.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I hated that one.
Speaker 3: You hated shin Godzilla. I loved it.
Speaker 4: I found it so weird.
Speaker 3: All right, so sign offs. I'm your gardener, Michael Gross.
Speaker 3: You can reach me on exit one four to four. Captain,
Speaker 3: I love to talk wrestling. If you want to be
Speaker 3: on the show with us and you have ideas for
Speaker 3: the show, we will credit you and we will definitely
Speaker 3: take care of you as far as if you know
Speaker 3: how to talk wrestling with us and you want to
Speaker 3: have some chemistry and see what you can do, we'd
Speaker 3: love to have you aboard Rock.
Speaker 1: I could tease youre zero seven on X as well.
Speaker 1: And just like you said, with those ideas, just throw
Speaker 1: them out and we'll make them come to life. MAB
Speaker 1: sign us off.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: You guys know where to reach me at maintenance, MAV
Speaker 4: on X, Twitter or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: Do something nice for somebody you never know who needs
Speaker 4: it out there, and uh yeah, I think this is
Speaker 4: another good show for us, guys. Honestly, SummerSlam was big
Speaker 4: success overall. I would say, no matter what, that was
Speaker 4: a lot of fun to be there and I think
Speaker 4: I think we covered it pretty well. So thanks for
Speaker 4: shoving me on the show again. Good night, guess good night.
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