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Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me

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covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book five, The Butcher's Masquerade, chapters

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thirteen through eighteen. In these chapters, b is already being

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brought out as I feel like it's unfair to say

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a bargaining chip, but she's just in play a lot

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sooner than I had been anticipating. I really didn't think

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it would happen this fast. Welcome to spoil Me, Welcome

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to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very

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much to Jackie for commissioning this episode. Sup Jackie. Yeah,

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these chapters are a surprise on a number of levels.

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So let's just begin at the beginning, shall we.

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Speaker 2: There is.

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Speaker 1: We start off first of all, I want to mention

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the weather. It's absolutely pouring down rain for a lot

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of this section. And I know that we have encountered

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rain before, but there was something about it in the

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past that always sort of felt like it was the

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aftermath of having had no rain in this being like

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a specific plot point, or there was just something about

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it that felt very like orchestrated, I guess. And this

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is the first floor where the weather has felt like

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it's just weather. It has been a bit of a

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suspicious thing to me. If the weather like affects anything,

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I don't know if constant rain is something that is

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like particularly good for our people or particularly bad for

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them in some way. I have to assume that there

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are probably crawlers out there whose abilities regarding sense of

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smell are really specific, So I imagine that it would

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be the sort of thing where they are at a

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disadvantage with the rain. But I don't know how much

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I should even pay attention to this. I just wanted

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to make note of the fact that I was noticing it.

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And we hear about hear this like being called the Yanks,

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which are these humanoid aliens, and they have three genders

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and they need all of them to make babies. The

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women and children lived in peaceful communities along with the

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unintelligent third gender, whatever it was called. I didn't know

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the details. The males were forced out once they reached maturity.

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The males were also known as powerful fighters. They couldn't

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work together lest they fight like beta fish, which is

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very interesting.

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Speaker 2: I would be uh, I would be.

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Speaker 1: Down to get the newsletter from these folks find out

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exactly how they do this.

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Speaker 2: So there's a guy out in a tree and they're.

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Speaker 1: Thinking that he's like poised to try and attack them

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from above that he thinks he's hidden, and Carl casts

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ping and the tree starts shaking once Ping lands, and

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Donut is like, okay, I thought the way he was

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still before that he was knocked out, but clearly not,

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so what's happening? And then all of a sudden, Karl

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looks at his map and he sees these multicolored dots

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and he's like, oh God, damn it, and all of

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a sudden, the double billed achievement makes sense. So yeah,

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it has to do with the overlap with the vengeance

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of the daughter plotline, and I think it's very funny.

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I'm super curious exactly.

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Speaker 2: How all look.

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Speaker 1: There are times where things come to us and sort

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of get lodged in our minds in a way that's

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like kind of just a funny hypothetical at the moment,

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and then you get to a point in some kind

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of creative project where you're suddenly like, oh, that thing

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that I said kind of half as a joke, actually

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maybe that can happen. And so a part of me

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is very strongly wondering.

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Speaker 2: If maybe Matt.

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Speaker 1: Dineman was watching something that had a really boring plot

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line and was sort of like, God, can't they just

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like do X y Z even that would make it

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more interesting, you know, and then got to this point

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and was like, oh, you know what I'm gonna do

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and is intending to sort of I don't want to say,

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like mock exactly, but just sort of play with that idea, because, like, guys,

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this is something that happens with me in my job

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a fair amount. There will be things that either I'm

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covering by myself or sometimes this will happen with Miles

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especially rare Shaan does this some, but she's not really

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a fiction writer and so it's less with her. But

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we will begin to bounce around ideas that we think

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would have worked better for whatever it is that we're

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reading at the time, and sometimes we will come up

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with some really like light years better plots than what

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was written and what like you know, earned millions of dollars,

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and obviously it's one thing to just be able to

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like say they should have done this. I'm not trying

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to act like but I'm just saying that there are

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times where it does sort of feel infuriating that there

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are people making money writing some of the most uninspired nothing,

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you know what I'm saying. And anyway, this is just

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a thought for me. I recently entered a it's a

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short story contest, a very short story, two thousand words,

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and it had to be on either like a werewolf

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or a vampire because of spooky season, and you could

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do both.

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Speaker 2: So I did both.

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Speaker 1: And my short story is based on an idea that

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I had when I was covering Twilight with Miles, which

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was like, where are the grown ups stepping in on

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this weird shit that's going on? And so I have

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it that there's like, you know, a kind of Edward

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Cullen esque vampire that gets called into the guidance office

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by a were wolf who knows what he is and

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is just like.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what are you doing dude?

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Speaker 1: So you know, things will, ideas will occur to you

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at strange times and then wind up being useful when

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you don't expect it necessarily. So anyway, this, uh, let's

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see he we have like this moment of realization for

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Carl of what's going on here, and then we immediately

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cut into a flashback of him engaged in negotiations with Boring,

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et cetera. And uh, he's got Quasar with him, and

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as we find out, they're changing rules so that Quasar

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can't message Carl easily, which is like one of those

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things that is really insidious, the idea that they're going

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to make it difficult for him to contact you when

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he is your representative, so that you can't have information

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that's fucked up, And honestly, it should be something that

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he mentions on the air, I think too, just the

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idea that I was given representation and now I'm apparently

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not even allowed to consolet with him, Like what kind

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of bullshit is that. I don't know if that would

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get him in trouble instead, but you know, considering that

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the everybody's fucking cheating tactic has been working, it might

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be something that he could do. So we have the

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four cretent bodyguards and the two spouse. My client is

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requesting two more items and we'll have a deal. And

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he says, I'm pretty sure you're already going to award this,

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but we want it to be a lock. And he says,

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we want you to extend a license for a program

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to continue on collapse of the sixth floor Vengeance of

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the Daughter, and Orran is like, that's not how this works.

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AI decides it and if they if the AI can't

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come to a conclusion, then we do a lottery. And

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Quasar says, there's actually like a subclause. Showrunners running at

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a lower than expected profit are allowed to give emergency

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use to a single program. And Orrin is like, all right, fine,

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but they'll have to pay twenty percent to boran and

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they might not be willing to do that, and quasars like, no,

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they are. I already talked to them, which I did

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think was kind of funny. And evidently this is something

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that has to be kept extremely hush hush.

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Speaker 2: And uh, let's see.

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Speaker 1: Here it is it guaranteed Vengeance of the Daughter of

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the equivalent a third season. Not all secondary programs were

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allowed to send their elites to the ninth floor. It

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was a coveted reward, and Quasar insisted Sensation Entertainment would

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leap at the opportunity. It would also once again give

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them an incentive to keep me alive, especially if Born

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agreed to my third request.

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Speaker 2: And we still don't get information on that one.

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Speaker 1: It's being pieced out, you know, very slowly over time here.

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So this is when Carl messages Quasar to find out like,

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did they agree to this or not, because he's trying

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to determine just how motivated are these people that I'm

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about to interact with to keep me alive? And he

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just gets a mess like an answering machine basically, and

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has to move forward without really knowing his standing within

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all of this, and Mordecai notes that there are two

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elites that they're about to deal with, and he's like,

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oh shit, that's unexpected. And Carl asks Dona, if she

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really wants to do this, you can come with me,

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or you can stay here and deal with the town

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and get setting up defenses and everything. And I enjoy

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Donu just being like I thought we had already covered this,

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he says, I figured, but I also promised to give

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you the choice. So she asks him, as they're heading

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over to meet them, are you sure that this is

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really necessary? Because we've got a lot going on and

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this just kind of seems like a distraction we don't

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really need right now, and he insists, like, yeah, I

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promise it is. After the third floor, she's going to

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be friendly with us, and right now we really need

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the help. So Sarena signet comes out, and he has

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a little reminder of like, oh shit, she's so much

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weirder looking than I remember. And she says, we came

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seeking you, and we found others seeking you as well.

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And this dude steps out the It's an ogre strong

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man who looks really similar to the one that gave

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him that horrible ice cream cone of worms. But after

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a moment, Carl realizes that this isn't that guy. This

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is a different one, and his name is Arison the

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Wise and he's level forty five, all war black. Let's see.

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A group of six small sized creatures emerged. All wore

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black studded leather from neck to toe. Each wore a

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pair of weapons over their shoulders. They wore no helmets,

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but each of the male, pale skinned warriors had been

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don as wrapped tight around their fuzzy heads rambo style.

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not fat, more like miniature well built football players, stout

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like a roll of armored barrels. Their wide set, eyed

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eyed face is glared at me and donut with mistrust.

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a mohawk. One's face was painted with camouflage, and he

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eventually we find out that these are ware kin and

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whatever it is they turn into, we don't know yet.

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them transform where they go after you, and you it says,

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you find out for yourself after they bite you. And

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later Carl realizes that he has not been taking it

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seriously enough that their bite can infect him and he

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needs to start paying a little little bit more attention

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to that. As a possible consequence, Clint and his brothers

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have joined forces with Serena Signet. They have a common enemy,

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and at this point Signet brings forth a level fifty

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whose name is Bravo, and his health is almost drained

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all the way, and Signet says, I almost used him

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as a blood sacrifice, but I decided to let you decide.

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Speaker 2: What to do with him.

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Speaker 1: And Carl says, heal him, and Signet is like, you're

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still such a softy, and Carl puts on the ring

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of suffering whatever it's called, and says, not anymore. And

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that is a very uncomfortable moment. Kiddo's I didn't like

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Speaker 2: This later, like.

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Speaker 1: He's thinking about how this ring feels heavy on his

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hand and very warm in the rain, and it's only

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one more kill and he'll get two additional dexterity points.

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me of like.

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Speaker 2: Here it is.

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Speaker 1: This is like the idea that it can be addictive.

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I was thinking of it as an actual chemical reaction

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that the ring puts out, but it may be a

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lot simpler than that, where it's just the more you

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use it, the more advantages you gain from it, and

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thus just naturally you begin to want to use it

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more because of those advantages. And it may not actually

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the ring in that sense. So I don't know, but

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I don't like it, And I especially don't like how

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Carl doesn't seem to be aware of it and the

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fact that this is happening to him.

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Speaker 2: He just seems utterly.

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Speaker 1: Absorbed in imagining what could, you know, how great things

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he would say out loud a little bit how he's

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feeling about things, because I think that Dona if she

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heard him anything that he's been thinking, if she heard

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him say it out loud, she would clock right away.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know what.

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Speaker 1: But he's being I think probably pretty careful on purpose

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about not sharing with anybody how he's feeling. And I'll

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just say, if you have to kind of what's the

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word I want to say.

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Speaker 2: If you have to censor.

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Speaker 1: Your feelings about something because it will worry your friends,

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maybe you should be more.

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Speaker 2: Concerned with what your friends are worried about than you are.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is definitely one of those things where

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if everybody is seeing something except you, consider that maybe

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they are actually seeing something and it's you that's the problem. Unfortunately,

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we have this thing in our especially American culture, where

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we like to think that if I'm the only one

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who doesn't see it, that means that I'm the only

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one who stands up for the truth or isn't fooled

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like these other sheep, or you know, like, there's all

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kinds of ways that you can get yourself to think

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that the reason I don't see it is actually a

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good thing that means good things about me. When a

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lot of the time. It's simply that you are too

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close to something and you are you know, have a

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conflict of interest or vested interest at least.

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Speaker 2: So I don't like it. And and.

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Speaker 1: He winds up taking all of his stuff. But he's

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doing this new kind of looting where he's putting things

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into a box before he opens it so that if

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there's something dangerous in there, it will not catch him

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off guard, which is a pretty clever idea. And I'm

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wondering how many people have figured this out as a

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method of going into inventories without harming themselves, because like

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you know, on the very first floor, Carl had figured

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out how to booby trap corpses. So it is certainly

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possible many people have figured this out by now, or

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that hunters.

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Speaker 2: Had been doing that in the past, and that.

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Speaker 1: It's just like a tradition at this point. So he

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gets a bunch of stuff that he's just sort of like,

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it's not none of this is really grey. And it

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seems like they have more limitations on what they can

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carry than the crawlers. But there are nine levitation potions.

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They allowed you to rise up into the air for

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as long as your intelligence times two seconds. It wasn't

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clear how high one could go or what would happen

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if the potion ran out before you lowered yourself. The

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hunter had been using one of these to scat out

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the city when he'd caught a missile to the face. Well,

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life comes at you fast, buddy.

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Speaker 2: So this is when.

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Speaker 1: She like, first of all, we have Donat asking what

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spells are you using to keep you dry? And Signet says,

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it's not a spell, it's a curse. Be grateful you

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don't have it. But that's all we.

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Speaker 2: Get on that.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's anything that should be

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a hint that I should have picked up on, but

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that's not further elaborated on here. And Signet says, Okay,

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we have to go into the forest. I'm going to

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talk to you as we walk there, and I'm not

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going to force you to help, but I'm hoping that

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we can come to an agreement. And of course Carl

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is like obligated to play along, but.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't know that.

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Speaker 1: And this is when she says, our Arison is going

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to zoc out to like stop a bunch of the hunters,

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and Carl has a we should assist.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Also, they have this uh, giant caterpillar that has six

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saddles on it and makes it look like they're riding

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an amusement park ride when they travel, and I find

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that delightful. I am very Look, I'm not a big

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fan of a caterpillar. A lot of them actually are

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really really creepy. Even when they're fuzzy, they are creepy.

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And there are some that are fuzzy, but that fuzz

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is like barbed and venomous not venomous?

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Speaker 2: Is it that poisonous?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But anyway, I don't really go for them,

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but in this context it does sound kind of fun.

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Nadine wasn't born as a caterpillar. A bearded sage isn't

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normally intelligent despite their name. Not that Nadine was miss

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science Fair before the high alphattack, but she was a Chi,

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a teacher in charge of the Chi Day School. And

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I am assuming that again, this is a thing with

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like the dinosaurs as well. So let's see signet. When

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it rains really hard, Confederates sometimes range fourth from the river. Uh,

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And that I didn't like think of that. The Naiads

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are just as long as it's wet. Enough further out

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of the water that that allows them more room to negotiate,

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and that is a really like I love that as

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a threat, and it's also really unsettling to think that,

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like just getting out of the water itself isn't necessarily

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going to save you if they're coming at you, Like

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you need to get up the banks at least twenty

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feet or something because if it's raining, oh well, you know.

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So this is when Signet is talking about her mother

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and she protected and loved me and taught me the

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importance of family. And my family's palace is occupied by

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the simpering dukes of the Confederacy. Nothing has changed since

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I was cast out of the river and exiled from

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the hunting grounds by my father's people. And I love

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this interaction. Donuts like, oh yeah, my dad exiled me too,

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But then he got his tail caught in a car

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door and he couldn't go on showings anymore, so haha,

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fuck him. And Signet's like, I can help you reclaim

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your crown after we're done with mine, and she's like, oh,

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I already got my crown back. Plus I conquered Cleveland

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and secured the GC title, something he could only dream

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of And I just love that Signa isn't asking any questions.

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She doesn't care, she doesn't need to know, but she

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is willing to engage with Donut on this level. And

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I just found that very fun that she's like apparently

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taking it quite seriously. And he finally says, why did

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you come and find me? And she's like, I'm recruiting

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a team and he's like, yeah, the last time you

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did that, you like fucking left me to be a sacrifice,

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and she's like the first time, yeah, but not the

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second time. And then he asks about what happened after

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he left the circus, because when they come by the

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next day, everybody's gone, and she's like, well, when you

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killed Heather the Bearer, you remember what happened that she

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just like aged and then crumbled away. That's what happened

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to everybody except for Grimaldi. And he asks did he

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turn back into a dwarf and she says no, he

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his story in this is mostly done. I'm gathering people

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to me for a different reason. And I am real

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curious about that, Like, is it possible that she's planning

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to use this weird parasitic thing that Grimaldi had going

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on against her enemies, which would be horrifying but also

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would make some sense. Would he agree to do that?

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Is it that he can't turn back or that she's

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asked him not to.

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: And then he asked about the strong Man and says

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he was here in the hunting grounds when the attack occurred,

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only his brother Apalon was in the over city. Apleon

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is gone, but Ariison lives. They have another brother, Herman

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the Fleet, who was in Larroccos. We don't yet know

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his fate. I exchanged a look with Donut. I'll fucking

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bet you did. Yikes. So he like finds out that

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these guys are where castors see a sto R and

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I am assuming.

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Speaker 2: That it's.

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Speaker 1: A type of beaver. And I may be wrong about this,

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but that's what I remember cast Storer being. I don't

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remember where I know this from, but that's what I'm

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going with. And if they are rad I'm very into it.

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She says, a type of rodent, and I'm assuming beavers

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are in.

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Speaker 2: The rodent family.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, their people were all magically transformed by princess Imogen.

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This was long ago, even before Scolopendra's attack back then,

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my father still sat upon the throne, and Imagen was

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his right hand, his so sirer General. They attacked the

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chi and stole their land. My sister cast the transfiguration

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and then sent the cleansers in to mop them up.

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Only a few escaped. These warriors were children then. Nadine

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was their instructor, their teacher. She was transformed into the caterpillar.

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The school children were all turned into different creatures, but

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these six young boys were all turned into the same thing,

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which is interesting.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder why that is.

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Speaker 1: If they just all happened to be together and the

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spell was just in a general direction or what. And

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he's like, okay, so what's the plan? And she says,

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there are two cancers on this land and I'll cut

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them both free, the Confederacy and the high Elves. And

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he's like, okay, so you want revenge and then you

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want to take out the high Elves. And she says

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close enough, which is not quite the thing, but interesting.

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She's keeping something to her chest and tell me start

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chapter fifteen. It's just donut going. This fucking storyline.

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Speaker 2: Is so lame. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And she says, this sounds like something the CW network

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would cancel after the first season, and when she asks

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Zev how are the ratings, Zev just says, there dot

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dot dot okay, I love Donut, just being like I

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fucking knew it, and Zev has to very quickly be like, look,

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when you were on the third floor with her, the

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ratings were actually good. And the thing is a lot

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of people are into the arc that they are on currently.

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It lagged on floors four and five, but now with

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the Warriors and the Caterpillar Mount, they're into it enough

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that even though many are excited to see you back

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involved again, there are also a lot of them that

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are work You're going to just completely take this over,

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And I love Dona is like, of course, we're gonna

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take it over. Having myself and Carl on the program

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is the equivalent of having Audrey Hepburn and I don't know,

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Macho Man Randy Savage suddenly show up as guest stars.

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You guys, I was not expecting anything like macho man

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Randy said. That cracked me up so bad. You do

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not understand how much I lost my mind. It was

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just so unexpected. I fully thought it was going to

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be like Audrey Hepburn and bing Crosby that it was

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just going to be like, you know, a duo that

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is just sort of relevant to each other in any way.

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But she's like, nah, we're not doing that, And honestly,

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that like fair. Actually there's a chance that people would

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be more excited to see a duo that don't have

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anything to do with each other than otherwise, you know,

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like really, so anyway, I just that really got me

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that I was not ready for that at all. So

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let's see, we're talking to the Sensation people. Then they're

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gonna try and steer the narrative. So you're back in

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a Saferm in time for Odette's show in a few hours,

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which eventually does happen, and like carl Atte first is

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sort of why are these guys so insistent on us

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going back to the Saferman And it's like, oh, oh right,

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I forgot that that's like part of.

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Speaker 2: The deal here.

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Speaker 1: So this is when Arison the Ogre appears and he's

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got a body over his shoulder and it's a hunter

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and I love Arison being like, I'm really sorry. I

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didn't mean to kill him. I tried to keep him alive,

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but he just started yelling and shit, and I just

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squeezed him to stop him yelling, and then all the

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stuff came out. All the stuff came out is so

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vivid and horrible.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And he says it this way a few times, so

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I'm just gonna assume this is like the way he

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talks about it. But I just I really, guys, Oh boy,

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I was horrified. And he's got like literal arrows sticking

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out of him and doesn't really seem to notice and

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signets pulling him out, which would hurt really bad, and

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he's just like completely unresponsive to it at all.

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Speaker 2: There's no reaction.

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Speaker 1: So Carl examines the hunter ar Wick uh and he

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is part of the dream and he remembers the photograph

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of the dream leader Epitome no Flex, which is just

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such a funny name, honestly, and he finds something that's

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actually really valuable. There's, first of all, an arrow of

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enthusiastic double gonna rhea, which is the worst and you

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actually have to like geld yourself if you want to

476
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,240
get rid of it or pass it to somebody else.

477
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,720
But the other thing is a map that has the

478
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:34,680
whole hunting ground divided up into sections, and there are

479
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:39,359
different groups labeled on each of the sections. So it

480
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,119
has become clear that the hunters have like divvied up

481
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,480
this floor and are making sure that they sort of

482
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:49,839
stay out of one another's way, and they are in

483
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,720
the area of the dream. There are multiple other groups

484
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,759
with names, such as the Crafters and the nebular Sin Patrol.

485
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,680
I focused on one area in the south, near the

486
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,759
Elf Castle Skull Empire. My heart quickened. The Orcs had

487
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:10,200
sent hunters here. Excellent, But there was more to the

488
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:13,759
crude map too. Hey, our names are written on here,

489
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Doughnut said, pointing with a paw. He spelled my name wrong.

490
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,559
There was a list of about thirty names. All of

491
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:23,680
the top ten were on there, along with several others.

492
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,559
I recognized. Each name had an arrow to a point

493
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:30,160
on the map. All the names were circled in different colors.

494
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,440
Some were circled in two different colors. Both Donut and

495
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:36,440
I were circled in blue and purple. If I was

496
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,279
reading that correctly, that meant we'd been claimed by the

497
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:43,839
Hive and the Skull Empire. The line from our names

498
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,720
led to the approximate location we'd been this morning before

499
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:50,039
we'd set out. They knew where all of us were.

500
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:55,039
It appeared each group was given a hunting area, but

501
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,960
some of the hunters claimed specific crawlers.

502
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: Kac was circled by.

503
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: The Skull Empire. Elle was being hunted by the Crafters.

504
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,480
Eva was also being hunted by the Crafters. In addition

505
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,160
to Me and Donut, the Hive had claimed lucymr. The

506
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,400
nebular group was hunting Prepotente and Miriam Dom. The Dream

507
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,599
only had one person on their list, the very last name.

508
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:24,680
This dead hunter had circled it a bunch of times,

509
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,079
pressing so hard the pencil broke through the paper, and

510
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:29,839
then at the bottom of the map he'd drawn a

511
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,599
pretty impressive likeness of their target with a big X

512
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,559
over his goofy, smiling face. Lewis, and he's the one

513
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:44,200
who wanted Juice Box to turn into Epitome no Flex.

514
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,759
Apparently they have zero sense of humor when it comes

515
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:55,480
to this sort of thing, and Carl once again takes

516
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,519
an opportunity. The others know where we are because they're

517
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:02,599
cheating assholes and they're coming for us, so he makes

518
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:05,359
sure to say that shit out loud again. Signet is

519
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,639
not concerned, and this is when Urson says, I'll squeeze

520
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:15,039
all the stuff out of them too. But so he

521
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,719
chats with Lewis and warns him. Lewis is sort of like, God,

522
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,840
everybody's so uptight, and I was like, dude, yeah, okay,

523
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,400
sure maybe they are, but like they're still fucking coming

524
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:26,559
for you.

525
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want anyway.

526
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: One of the elves is like complimenting Mongo's behavior. In

527
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,000
the center of the clearing was a small eight foot

528
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,679
white barked tree with a fairy ring of white flowers

529
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,920
circling it, and the AI just says, this tree is

530
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:50,320
old as shit. So as Signet is about to make

531
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,199
an announcement, Quasar chimes in with a message for Carl

532
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:58,760
about the fact that they're making it so we can't

533
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,880
casually chat.

534
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,599
Speaker 2: I need a core order.

535
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,159
Speaker 1: To send you a message, which is huge. That's a

536
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,320
huge pain in the ass. You can still send me

537
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,639
messages all you like. All your constant bitching about the

538
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:12,960
Hunters getting outside info has caused a stir and things

539
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,760
are moving on that front. Regarding the program It's good news,

540
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,719
Bad News. Sensation has agreed to accept Born's offer, but

541
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,639
they're being bitches and want to wait before signing anything

542
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:27,320
between you and me. I'm reading between the lines. My

543
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,800
take is you got to find a way to make

544
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,679
the program more exciting, but in a way where the

545
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,679
spotlight isn't throwing the star in shadow. So basically, they

546
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,719
want to do this, but they want to be sure

547
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:40,840
you're not gonna ruin what they wrote. And then he

548
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,480
mentions the other thing, which we don't know what this

549
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,360
is in response to, but he just says, one hundred

550
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,880
and fifty million credits. I don't know how you're gonna

551
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,320
pull that off, Cowboy. That's enough money to buy your

552
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,599
own planet. By my count, your current outside the Dungeon

553
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,480
net worth is sitting at about one hundred and seventeen credits,

554
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,159
and you probably already have a taxi bill of fifty

555
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:03,320
And even if you do gather that much money, which

556
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,639
you won't, we have a few legal issues to deal with.

557
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,880
Bribery is both a way of life but also a

558
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,559
real crime out here in the real world. And while

559
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,960
technically it's not a bribe, I'm not so sure the

560
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,880
high courts will see it that way. It's not exactly

561
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,280
something we can keep hidden.

562
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: Now is it.

563
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:24,199
Speaker 1: I have an idea, but it's a little never mind,

564
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,079
I'm working on it.

565
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: Talk to you soon.

566
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: Don't die on me. This is the most fun I've

567
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719
had since the night I graduated law school and nailed

568
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:38,039
Professor Foster. Never change, buddy, I very much enjoy Quasar.

569
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,239
So yeah, I'm very curious what he would need this

570
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,199
amount of money for.

571
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: What is it? What is it?

572
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: And this is when we get our new quest, vengeance

573
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:56,920
of the daughter uh Signet has returned and wishes to

574
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,079
reclaim your mother's crown or at the very least put

575
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:04,480
a proper government in place. And there is a confederacy

576
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:10,199
at Fort Freedom, so we need to assault that reward

577
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,199
you get to move on to part two, and every

578
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:17,559
survivor of the assault will be twenty percent more willing

579
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:20,599
to follow your orders. I bet that number will go

580
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,440
up even more if you complete the second half of

581
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,280
this quest. So that is really valuable that like, if

582
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,760
you do this, if you focus on this enough, you

583
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,639
are going to be able to have all of these

584
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:38,000
people not necessarily like your beck and call, but certainly

585
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:43,519
they will be potentially useful to you. And that's that's

586
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:48,719
a big deal. That's very helpful So then chapter sixteen,

587
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:54,599
this is when we have him and Donut walking with

588
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:01,960
these wearcasters and they are bringing them to a place

589
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,079
where they can go into a safe room. It's Clint

590
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:11,880
and Holger and Dona is asking Holger about his mullet

591
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:14,360
and it is like, yeah, well, in our world it's

592
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,719
a really specific cultural thing, and he says it's a

593
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:24,159
sign of my dominance, and Clint's like bullshit, and Holger's saying,

594
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:30,920
don't be bitchy just because you're bald. And they wind

595
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,400
up later arguing about like the history in a certain

596
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,760
place and then get in an argument and a fistfight

597
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,960
that Carl has to break up, and they behave after

598
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,920
the fight like nothing happened. So there seems to be

599
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,760
a very kind of sibling vibe with the two of them.

600
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: Well they were.

601
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:53,159
Speaker 1: They will bicker and get really violent, but immediately drop

602
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,960
it and it won't be something that affects their ongoing

603
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:06,639
relationship necessarily. And let's see, uh, we've known her since

604
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:09,079
we were kits. She lived in the village with us.

605
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:12,199
After she was cursed, one of the village elders introduced

606
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:15,079
her to Grimaldi and she left with him soon after that.

607
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: That bitch.

608
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: Imagen came to the village and attacked and killed almost

609
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,199
all of us. A few years after that, when Scolopendra attacked,

610
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,039
those of us who had survived Imagen's attack were mostly

611
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:28,760
unaffected by the demon's cloud, and they don't know why.

612
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,239
He says it might be because one of the attacks

613
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,280
was a transfiguration spell and it was the exact same

614
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,360
one Imagen had used, so maybe it had like kind

615
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,960
of been done already.

616
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: But there were also spores in the cloud.

617
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,599
Speaker 1: And I did get sick, but then I was fine,

618
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:52,159
So you know, I'm really not sure. Most of the

619
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,360
animals were transformed or killed. We almost all starved. Miss

620
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,480
Nadine saved us. And this is when he asks about

621
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,599
the High Elves and carl Asks, and Clint is like,

622
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,440
haven't you heard this story? Because they were basically untouched.

623
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,440
The High Elves, they had some kind of magic and

624
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,719
a lot of people actually think they were behind the

625
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:24,519
whole thing. And Clint says, rumor has that the elves

626
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:26,920
went down there once back when she was still asleep,

627
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,320
that when they collected all their soul gems, the worms

628
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,679
started to wake up, so they ran, but before they left,

629
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,960
they stole something else, an item that protected them and

630
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,519
saved all of them, and Holger says, well, I heard

631
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,559
that bitch Imagen tried to cast her transfiguration spell on

632
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:50,000
the giant centipede and it didn't work, but that was

633
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:51,679
why it was one of the spells in the nine

634
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,679
Tier attacks. Scolopendra was just firing back everything that had

635
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:56,960
been fired at her over the years, only it was

636
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:02,320
all at once, like a damage reflect And this is

637
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,360
when they start to get in a fight, back and forth,

638
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,360
back and forth, and then really go at each other.

639
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:12,000
And there's a moment where Dona is just like, man,

640
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:13,800
this is like you and your friend when you were

641
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,320
playing video games, and she says something like girls never

642
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,960
insult each other like that, and Carl says, girls are

643
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,760
worse than boys, but they usually don't do it to

644
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,119
your face. And I really hate this assumption that girls

645
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:32,400
are worse than boys. It is absolute horseshit, and I

646
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,079
am so tired of it, and never ever say that again,

647
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:42,199
because it's just the type of insulting that girls do.

648
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,480
If we're going to have a wild stereo type here

649
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:51,119
is oftentimes a lot pettier and comes with a different

650
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,719
kind of like social consequence, but trying to act like

651
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,039
men don't do this shit and aren't awful to each

652
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:02,840
other about it is absolute horseshit.

653
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:06,079
Speaker 2: So no enough.

654
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: So this is when a mob comes in and it's

655
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,840
a bunch of weasels, and they are able to take

656
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,559
care of them quite easily. But it turns out that

657
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:27,840
Donut try to use her barred power and they are

658
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:32,039
with people who are not going to mince words about

659
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:37,400
the effectiveness of her spells. So Holger is just saying

660
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,719
to Donut, you can't sing, and I'm sorry. I don't

661
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,519
mean to offend you. It's not like you know, but

662
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,840
your spells don't work if you can't sing and you're

663
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,400
not on tune. And with more minor spells, that's not

664
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,840
really that big a problem. It just doesn't work super well.

665
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:57,119
But like if you try some bigger spells and you're

666
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:59,639
not in key, that's gonna be a really big problem.

667
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,880
So you're going to need to get some help with that.

668
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,719
Go to a barred guild and get singing lessons, or

669
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,000
get like an item that auto chunes your voice basically,

670
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:15,840
And I deeply appreciate that they just fucking tell her,

671
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:19,159
I really do. She says something like about how well

672
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,159
Carl and Mango think that I'm a great singer, don't they?

673
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,280
And he just says, they're your friends. Of course they

674
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,719
think that. And I appreciated that he like stepped in

675
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:35,320
and just said they're your friends, because if she just said, like,

676
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,920
don't you Carl, and he had sort of left it

677
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,239
open for Carl to reply, it would have been much

678
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,800
more awkward to make Carl say, yeah, he's right, don't

679
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:50,679
you really you can't sing? But instead he's just like, look,

680
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,679
of course they do. They see the best in you.

681
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: That's what friends are for.

682
00:43:53,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: And that was very tactful, I thought. So also Wet

683
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,800
like a brief description of the fact that this fight

684
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,960
against the Weasels was not easy exactly, but they were

685
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:11,480
able to handle it just fine. And a huge part

686
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:15,519
of that was the Wearkin because they are absolutely terrifying,

687
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,960
and Carl is like, you get like six or eight

688
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,519
of them together, I bet they'd be fucking unstoppable. These

689
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:29,280
guys are really intense. So this is when they get

690
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,159
an ADMIN noticed that they've gotten another sponsor, the Apothecary,

691
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:35,920
which rang a bell, but I didn't exactly remember what

692
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,199
it was for. And Carl does that it's from a

693
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,079
mob description on the fourth floor about the crack Cairn,

694
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:47,039
the real one. I had no idea what she really

695
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:49,559
looked like, but I doubted she was an octopus thing.

696
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,960
It was rumored she was involved with a company that

697
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,679
ran the tunneling system, which was owned and operated by

698
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,440
the Plenty, who were goat people. If this apothecary collective

699
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,559
was the Plenty, he's silent partner, it meant they likely

700
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:06,440
had a bottomless reserve of money. And I keep thinking

701
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,000
about the fact that it was a Caprid that was

702
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:11,960
trying to get Carl killed, and if she's working with

703
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:14,199
the Plenty, but a Caprid was the one who was

704
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:16,800
trying to fuck his whole day up. Is that related

705
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,400
or is that person an outlier or did they just

706
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,000
look like a Caprid but they weren't. Like what's going

707
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,239
on there? Is that linked at all?

708
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: And Donut is like, I don't like us and.

709
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:35,079
Speaker 1: A bunch of other people are getting the same sponsor

710
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:37,599
that won't be they'll have they won't have the money

711
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,199
they need to send us good shit. And Carla is like, well,

712
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,119
I thought that about the Pacifist and they send me

713
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,159
really good stuff, and Donut said, they gave you a vegetable,

714
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,000
and I wanted him to be like, look, yes, but

715
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:53,280
they also gave me an emergency like platinum box or

716
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,159
whatever with the friggin shistera attachment that probably cost them

717
00:45:57,199 --> 00:46:01,920
an absolute fucking fortune. So oh yeah, I think that

718
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:08,960
the vegetable really falls into shadow in that light. So

719
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,519
they go into the safe room and it turns out

720
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:16,760
that Samantha has been pitching a fucking fit. And it

721
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,280
turns out Donut didn't realize Samantha was at all linked

722
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,519
with uh, oh my god, what's her face?

723
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: Daughter?

724
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Vengeance of the daughter, you know, the daughter in it.

725
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,239
And so the fact that Donat mentioned this has caused

726
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,480
Samantha to really get hyper focused on getting to talk

727
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:36,119
to this girl.

728
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,119
Speaker 2: And she has been screaming.

729
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:44,599
Speaker 1: For Carl so loud and so relentlessly and has figured

730
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:46,679
out how to open her mouth again and how to

731
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,880
like roll around, so they aren't able to even just

732
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,480
shut her mouth and stop her from talking. Donut did

733
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,960
block her from the chat and says something like, you

734
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:56,960
must have seen how annoying she is. And there the

735
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,960
way she talks, which I'm assuming is the all caps,

736
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:05,559
which is hilarious because it's exactly what Donut does. Sorena's signet,

737
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:11,320
that's the one, and she says I want to see her,

738
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:15,519
and Carl says, all right, I can do that, but.

739
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: You have to stop screeching.

740
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,039
Speaker 1: One more squeal and the deal is off, and she

741
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:25,000
agrees to this. I patted her on the head and

742
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:27,440
she growled at me and tried to bite my finger.

743
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:35,119
So this is when we get transferred to first a

744
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:41,159
trailer that's like in outer space to get checked over

745
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:46,320
for any explosives or whatever. They are not given any

746
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,320
warning that they're going to be in space, and Donut

747
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,800
winds up throwing up as they just sort of like

748
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,519
float around, and Carl gets a look at Earth and

749
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:04,400
gets quite emotional for a moment there. I immediately thought

750
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,039
of Cooley, who'd written the nineteenth edition of the cookbook.

751
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,800
This had been his last view but of his own

752
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,559
home planet. He died after a failed assassination attempt on

753
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:14,559
a pair of admins.

754
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:19,679
Speaker 2: And yeah, I was sort of like, is the studio

755
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,280
out here? Like did she move? What's going on?

756
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,679
Speaker 1: But it seems like they just get sent all the

757
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:26,599
way out here to get checked over, and then they

758
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:36,960
get sent back down to be with Odette, and let's see,

759
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,239
we landed sideways and Odet's familiar trailer and she is

760
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,960
there with Zev, which instantly Carl is sort of like,

761
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:50,880
that's weird, what's going on? And Odett's like, look, we

762
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,440
don't have a lot of time, but I really need

763
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,519
to talk to you about your ex and she tells

764
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:01,119
them be as alive and you know, has to explain

765
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:07,840
a little bit about how that happened, and Donut is like, immediately, Zev,

766
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,920
did you fucking know?

767
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: And Zev says, I just found out a minute ago,

768
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,960
Like don't.

769
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't keeping shit from you. Why did you take her?

770
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,639
And why are you telling us this now?

771
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: Odebt?

772
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,079
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to tell you, Odette said, not till

773
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:26,440
you were free, But present circumstances have forced my hand.

774
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,039
The plan was to secret her away and keep her

775
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:32,559
safe till the crow was over. We had a security breach.

776
00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:36,320
It hasn't yet leaked that she's alive and off planet,

777
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,239
but that will soon change. Another program is planning on

778
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,199
running a story. They're going to ambush you with the

779
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,440
information infromation stolen from me, and I want to make

780
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,559
sure you have all the facts before you're confronted, and

781
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,519
if you're amenable, we can completely head off this story

782
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:56,960
poaching bastard and she says that I took me to

783
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:03,360
protect my investment and he says bullshit, and she's like, no, seriously,

784
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,039
there was a number of ways this could have gone,

785
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,480
and I didn't want it to be like the cruelest,

786
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:13,440
worst one. And you know, kind of back and forth

787
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:18,079
just about I thought people on the surface were safe, YadA, YadA,

788
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,480
And finally Donah is like, can I talk to her?

789
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:23,159
Speaker 2: Is she here?

790
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,559
Speaker 1: And it's really like the narrator's delivery of this I

791
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:29,880
thought was really good, where she just keeps being like,

792
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,800
is anybody gonna answer me? Is she here?

793
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,119
Speaker 2: Can I talk to her?

794
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: And I just thought it was it was very moving,

795
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:41,360
you know, this frustration. All she wants to know is

796
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:46,519
can I see my person? And of course, understandably, Carl

797
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:50,440
is very caught up with like the details on why

798
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,880
this is happening this way. I'm not mad at him

799
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,400
for that at all, but Donah is having a much

800
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,320
more like fundamental response to the news that be is

801
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,519
alive and they are not engaging with her at all

802
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:06,880
until she kind of loses her temper a little bit.

803
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: And.

804
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Finally Zev just like she tries to say first of

805
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,400
all that this is partially about what I did to Mordecai,

806
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,440
and then Zev just blurts out she's using beat a

807
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:28,400
blackmail boorrent and Odette gives her an irritated look, but

808
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:31,159
Zev says, it actually doesn't have anything to do with

809
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:33,960
you or her, and it's a good thing, but we

810
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:36,880
all have to pretend it wasn't Odette who saved b

811
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:41,800
and that Bourne did something noble. In exchange, Odette is

812
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,440
getting a higher revenue share for the remainder of the crawl.

813
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:49,079
We just signed the contract, and Odette's like, the contract

814
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:52,559
was an afterthought, It wasn't my main motivation, which I

815
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:54,199
actually do believe, but it doesn't.

816
00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: Change that the other one is there.

817
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: And then Odette says, well, if you're gonna tell him

818
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,119
about the contract, telling the rest, and Zeb says, you

819
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:06,199
get a fan box. You're not supposed to open it

820
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,039
for a few hours, but the votes are in. Soon

821
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,239
after you open it, you're going to be whisked away

822
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,920
to an event where you'll be able to interact with fans.

823
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,079
It's going to be just you, not Donut. That's where

824
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:20,079
they were going to confront you. It's why we're telling

825
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:25,239
you now. She's here. She's off planet, but she's standing by.

826
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:28,519
I want your permission to bring her on the show.

827
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:32,920
And Carl really begins to lose it and is like, absolutely,

828
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,119
no fucking way, and Dona interrupts and is like, we're

829
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:39,840
doing it. I need you to trust me. We've talked

830
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,599
about this and we are fucking doing it.

831
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,639
Speaker 2: I will see you guys on set.

832
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,639
Speaker 1: And Carl says, if you are fucking with us, Odette,

833
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:55,719
I will find a way to fucking kill you. I

834
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,760
don't care how long it takes. I will figure it out.

835
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,119
And she just says, I would expect nothing less of you. Carl.

836
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:06,519
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Zev.

837
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Zev said, she dropped all this on me

838
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,719
as we started prepping you. You don't have to do this, Donut,

839
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,599
I said, it's quite alright, Carl, Donut said she was pretending.

840
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,199
Of course, it's quite all right, she repeated. She jumped

841
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:25,840
from my shoulder and moved to the counter and peered underneath.

842
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,320
She gasped, Carl, they have treats hidden under the counter.

843
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,880
They found the treats.

844
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:35,039
Speaker 2: That come in the pink bag. I love those.

845
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,519
Speaker 1: Zev remained standing on the floor by the couch watching Donut,

846
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,960
a worried expression on her face. The small fish woman

847
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:47,119
was trembling. I'd never seen her like this. This is

848
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:50,719
such terrible timing, Zev said. This shouldn't be happening now.

849
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,880
This is too big to be happening now. God damn it,

850
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,159
there's something else going on. What are you so damn

851
00:53:56,199 --> 00:54:00,760
nervous about? Sh Donut is going to need it is

852
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,000
going to need you focus on that. Look, I began,

853
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:06,639
I'm worried that you're. All you need to know is

854
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:09,639
that you need to close that yap of yours right now.

855
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: Please.

856
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:14,639
Speaker 1: I was so surprised that she told me to shut

857
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,000
up that I did so.

858
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

859
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what the other fucking aspect of this is,

860
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,000
or what the interaction with fans and the fan boxes.

861
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:29,920
They have already tried to fuck with Carl right in

862
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,079
the beginning by giving him that picture of b But

863
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:36,440
maybe it's like it was going to be something like

864
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,239
that where they were going to put him on the

865
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,360
spot with her somehow regarding her cheating, because that's been

866
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,719
talked about a lot, you know. I don't know, and

867
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,840
I'm assuming like Zev being like Donut is going to

868
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,800
need you as related maybe to gravy Boat. I don't

869
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,199
know when he is going to be unleashed, you know.

870
00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:59,960
But yeah, there's I don't know, there's just as Carl says,

871
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:03,280
there's like something else going on, and the fact that

872
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,440
Zev is as nervous as she is makes me think

873
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,360
that it's like kind of something that is against Borent somehow,

874
00:55:11,639 --> 00:55:15,039
Like maybe she is part of a group that's you know,

875
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:20,199
a resistance of some kind and that they had had

876
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,360
a plan and this is like potentially going to fuck

877
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,679
up the plan, which would be amazing. He comments at

878
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,639
one point about how the Cuatine don't really have a

879
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:37,280
poker face at all, and how the fact that she

880
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,960
has been so convincing in playing her role that she

881
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:45,920
is still like under their control is evidence of what

882
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,440
a great actress she is, because this is not a

883
00:55:48,639 --> 00:55:51,559
natural thing for the Cuatine, And I just thought that

884
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:55,159
was really interesting, the acknowledgment that she in particular has

885
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,480
this like, you know, ability to lie in her this streak.

886
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,079
We haven't gotten to know Zev in a very specific

887
00:56:06,159 --> 00:56:08,039
way very much. So we have to pick up a

888
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,559
lot about who she is from all of these side

889
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:13,360
clues and just make.

890
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,199
Speaker 2: Judgments from that.

891
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: So all right, I've got to wrap this up, but

892
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,360
I am really interested to see where we go. Like,

893
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,840
you know, I was giving Odette a lot of shit

894
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,280
at the end of the last book when you see

895
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,599
them getting picked up, because I was sort of misunderstanding things,

896
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:32,760
And now I definitely do believe that. It's basically she's

897
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,559
an opportunist. She's gonna do the thing because she wants

898
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:38,679
to help, but if she can fucking get money out

899
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:40,480
of it, she's of course going to do that. Like

900
00:56:40,519 --> 00:56:43,800
why wouldn't you, And honestly, as a very practical person myself,

901
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,239
I would do the same thing. I know it would

902
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,880
look a certain way, But there comes a point where

903
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,679
it's like, oh, well, if it looks a certain way,

904
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,639
especially if she happens to be using that money toward

905
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:58,360
a bigger goal of some kind that she's keeping to herself,

906
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,920
maybe you're just willing to piss people off because your

907
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:06,440
cause needs money somehow, you know, I don't know, I

908
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,000
don't know, but uh, yeah, I am I'm really curious

909
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:14,320
how this is gonna go because be just was like,

910
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,159
she was so not okay when we last saw her,

911
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,679
and I have to imagine being scooped up by fucking

912
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:25,960
aliens has not helped, you know. I just don't know

913
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,039
what to expect of her when Carl sees her again.

914
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,719
Is she gonna be fucking lucid at all? Or is

915
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,239
seeing him going to like spark something in her that

916
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,559
brings her kind of back to earth Or is she

917
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:45,199
going to kind of crack upon seeing him after all?

918
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,000
I don't know, could go a lot of different ways.

919
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:52,079
So all right, well I have to wrap up, guys,

920
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,079
but thank you again so much for listening and for

921
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,199
coming to the lives those of you who are here.

922
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,440
Thank you Jackie for commissioning this one, and ntil next

923
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:34,360
time to the lou motherfuckers. That was an Unspoiled Network podcast.

