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<v Speaker 1>You are about to listen to the Doctor Dahlia Show,

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<v Speaker 1>sassy stimulating talk radio and now here's Doctor Dahlia.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor, Doctor, tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>True I'm supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Doctor? Will it be okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Got the cast that makes me Doctor?

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<v Speaker 2>You've got me right off the doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back, everybody. Hope you're having a wonderful summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 4>Sadly, this cyclospora outbreak is not over, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>it looks like it's already taken some lives. The Michigan

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<v Speaker 4>Department of Health and Human Services has announced this week

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<v Speaker 4>that two people within Michigan with significant underlying health conditions

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<v Speaker 4>have died in connection with the outbreak of the intestinal

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<v Speaker 4>illness cyclistriasis caused by thespora parasite.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the Department of Health.

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<v Speaker 4>They said the two deaths have been identified as part

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<v Speaker 4>of the cyclosporiasis outbreak affecting Michigan. Now, Michigan has been

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<v Speaker 4>the state with I believe the most cases. We can't

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<v Speaker 4>say it's ground zero because there's multiple outbreaks going on

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<v Speaker 4>right now with cyclospora. One link was iceberg lettuce, but

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<v Speaker 4>cyclospora happens every year. During this time of year because

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<v Speaker 4>the parasite likes the nooks and crannies of berries and

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<v Speaker 4>the little crevices and lettuce, and the surface area of

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<v Speaker 4>shredded lettuce is much more than a single piece when

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<v Speaker 4>you have those little pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>So we usually see cyclospora.

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<v Speaker 4>Outbreaks every year, but the degree of this one is

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<v Speaker 4>a lot larger. I believe there's been over eleven two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirty four cases in Michigan alone. Ohio has

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<v Speaker 4>about four thousand cases now. Hospitalizations are still up. Even

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<v Speaker 4>though cyclosporiass is generally not a life threatening illness, death

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<v Speaker 4>could still happen if you're vulnerable, and cyclospora has now

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<v Speaker 4>been found in at least forty five states.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've been a.

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<v Speaker 4>Little slow to get that data because many people have

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<v Speaker 4>been calling telemedicine companies and getting treated and not tested.

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<v Speaker 4>Most telemedicine companies say you gotta get tested. The CDC

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<v Speaker 4>needs to know the case count. But other people are saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I need an antabotic, so they're asking for it. They're

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<v Speaker 4>looking up the antabotics on CHANGINGTP. Then they're calling up

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<v Speaker 4>with something different, getting that antabotic and self treating. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know, I wouldn't be surprised if there

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<v Speaker 4>were cases in all states.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just we might not know about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But as of Monday, so a couple of days ago,

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<v Speaker 4>there's been eleven and thirty four cases of cyclosparias is

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<v Speaker 4>reported in Michigan alone, four thousand in Ohio, and in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of other states, the numbers are coming in. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, why, why would somebody die from this parasite?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, your.

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<v Speaker 4>Body is very, very smart, and we've talked about why

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<v Speaker 4>diarrhea happens. When your body detects something that shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's a virus, whether it's a bacteria, whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>a parasite, it will draw fluid from the intestine. Because

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<v Speaker 4>the intestine knows how to suck up fluid. We could

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<v Speaker 4>also draw from it to flesh it out, and so

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<v Speaker 4>the body will try its hardest, and since you get

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<v Speaker 4>cyclospora from fecal oral route, you ingest it. The body

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<v Speaker 4>feels that it's going to take hold in the intestine

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<v Speaker 4>and then it'll flesh it out. The problem is is

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<v Speaker 4>the immune response that could follow if the body doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>know that it flushed it all out, or it still

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<v Speaker 4>thinks it's there or now it's you know, opened up

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<v Speaker 4>Pandora's box. You could continue fleshing and fleshing and get

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<v Speaker 4>extremely dehydrated. If you lose your fluids, now that can

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<v Speaker 4>cause other end organ damage. We need to get a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more data as to how these people died.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they die because they lost so much electrolytes? I

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<v Speaker 2>apologize like electrolytes.

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<v Speaker 4>When you do have diarrhea, not only do you lose water,

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<v Speaker 4>but you lose your potassium and magnesium and other salts.

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<v Speaker 4>If you lose too much of your salts, that can

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<v Speaker 4>then cause you to have admirable heart rhythms.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>If you can't eat now you have malnourishment, you're not

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<v Speaker 4>metabolizing your medications correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>Different things that could happen to somebody who has a

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<v Speaker 4>horrible intestinal illness, and I've seen people really crump and

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<v Speaker 4>get extremely extremely sick. Cyclospora or cyclosporiasis usually doesn't kill,

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<v Speaker 4>but it has that potential.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is is here we are months into this.

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<v Speaker 4>Outbreak, having over eleven thousand cases in one state alone.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have the average person getting tested. We don't

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<v Speaker 4>know the numbers I think it is a lot bigger.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's interesting because I drive by Taco Bells and

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<v Speaker 4>other Mexican restaurants and fast food and you don't see

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<v Speaker 4>the drive through line as busy as you see the

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald's and the innt out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people are starting to panic. And you know, I've.

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<v Speaker 4>Always told you guys, the the fast food places or

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<v Speaker 4>these convenient food places that try to sell fresh ingredients

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<v Speaker 4>and vegetables often are the ones behind the eight ball

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<v Speaker 4>as it relates to infectious disease and food born illness.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's why you heard a lot about Chipotle in

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<v Speaker 4>the news before COVID. Now they've really stepped things up

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<v Speaker 4>and you don't hear a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Food born illness.

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<v Speaker 4>But remember Chipotle was in the news almost every week

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<v Speaker 4>and and I don't know what it was ever found

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<v Speaker 4>with that, but because they used fresh ingredients, there was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of questions as to well, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, how do we know these fresh ingredients are

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<v Speaker 4>not carrying bacterian parasites, whereas places like McDonald's and in

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<v Speaker 4>and out, You know, if they're not using a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of fresh ingredients, they could be.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, if a lot of their You know

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<v Speaker 4>your quarter pound or with cheese has the slivered onions.

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<v Speaker 2>Onions could still you have you know, a bacteria and

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<v Speaker 2>parasites on them.

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<v Speaker 4>But if they aren't having the shredded lettuce on those,

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<v Speaker 4>you might not hear as many issues.

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<v Speaker 2>The Big Mac I think has shredded lettuce. So these

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<v Speaker 2>other fans food places do. But it depends on on

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<v Speaker 2>their quality assurance.

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<v Speaker 4>It depends on how they address their their their food

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<v Speaker 4>borne pathogens, their hand washing.

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<v Speaker 2>Et cetera. So any place.

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<v Speaker 4>The point I'm trying to make is any of these

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<v Speaker 4>locations could could you know, serve a as a as

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<v Speaker 4>a potential source even your own home cooked food.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why we have you watch your vegetables.

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<v Speaker 4>You know all sometimes buy pre washed broccoli, pre washed spinach.

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<v Speaker 2>You should still wash that. How do you know it

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<v Speaker 2>was washed thoroughly?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you know something didn't get into the vacuum

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<v Speaker 4>seal bag wash it or it's not I mean it's

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<v Speaker 4>not sterile, So I would I would be a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more diligent with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of you are very very frustrated.

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<v Speaker 4>You're having diarrhea, so you're calling up to telemedicine companies.

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<v Speaker 4>They won't treat you over the phone again for us

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<v Speaker 4>to diagnose you with a parasite versus nora virus versus

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<v Speaker 4>E coli versus travelers diarrhea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's difficult because.

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<v Speaker 4>They really need to know the numbers in the cases

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<v Speaker 4>and tell amedicine. Even though it's helping people get access,

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<v Speaker 4>it is kind of interfering with the epidemiological studies that

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<v Speaker 4>need to be done, and so you would have to

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<v Speaker 4>call your doctor or go to an urgent care to

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<v Speaker 4>get tested.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't let this diarrhea go.

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<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of people are like, Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>losing weight, this is wonderful, I'm feeling great.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't I wouldn't have that attitude towards this. It's dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>now that we.

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<v Speaker 4>Know it's causing hospitalizations, can kill people. And yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really worried that people are going to undernourish and stay

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<v Speaker 4>away from vegetables completely. Just wash for vegetables and be

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<v Speaker 4>So some of you probably saw this article saying one session,

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<v Speaker 4>just a single session of brisk walking per week, could

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<v Speaker 4>shed just as much much fat as three weekly workouts.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure many people are looking at that going great.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have to do the one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>minutes a week that's being recommended, and I could just

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<v Speaker 4>work out once I did a lot of housework on

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. No you're not. But I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>this study said. The scientist from the University of Hong

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<v Speaker 2>Kong looked at.

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<v Speaker 4>Specifically interval walking, which a workout that involves very fast

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<v Speaker 4>walking interspersed with short periods of rest where you go

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<v Speaker 4>fast and you stop, and you go fast and you stop.

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<v Speaker 4>And they did a four month trial, according to Daily Mail,

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<v Speaker 4>looking at three hundred and fifteen adults with abdominal obesity,

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<v Speaker 4>and the abdominal obesity is the dangerous type of fat.

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<v Speaker 4>We call it visceral fat, where it surrounds the stomach

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<v Speaker 2>So in the study.

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<v Speaker 4>The participants were assigned to one of three groups. One

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<v Speaker 4>And then the study was published in the journal Nature Communications,

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<v Speaker 4>matter more than how that exercise is spread across the week.

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<v Speaker 2>There were no significant change is in blood pressure or cholesterol.

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<v Speaker 4>that once weekly interval training may be feasible and effective

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<v Speaker 4>alternative for people who struggle to fit multiple exercise sessions

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<v Speaker 4>into their schedules. You know, really, people, you can't fit

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<v Speaker 4>I worked a lot, and I worked in hospitals, and

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<v Speaker 4>I took the stairs then instead of the elevator, I

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<v Speaker 2>I would on my break walk.

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<v Speaker 4>interval training offers similar benefits and represents a practical exercise strategy.

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<v Speaker 4>They see for many adults with central obesity who struggle

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's been studies looking at you only need

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<v Speaker 2>ten minutes. Just try and get ten minutes in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>switching subjects here breastfeeding. There's a lot of women that say,

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<v Speaker 2>at work. I can't breastfeed. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I only got two weeks off with my first child

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<v Speaker 4>and three days off with the second. I still did

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<v Speaker 4>the breastfeeding and the pumping. Now I made less milk,

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<v Speaker 4>but as long as I could get the baby Samana bodies,

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<v Speaker 4>every little bit counts.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I've done in.

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<v Speaker 4>My life is had that attitude every little bit counts.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Am I have my ideal weight? Absolutely not. And

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<v Speaker 2>I really need to be in the gym longer, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do need to exercise more. But I do exercise

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<v Speaker 2>a lot a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm hiking, I'm walking, I'm working out, I'm treadmillon, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>lifting weights. But genetics doesn't seem to be as with me.

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<v Speaker 4>My metabolism isn't with me like it used to be.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've always worked out even when I was on

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<v Speaker 4>bed rest, and I was put on bed rest when

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<v Speaker 4>I was pregnant, I still worked out in bed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I just always moved because I knew if I don't

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<v Speaker 4>keep my muscles up, my metabolism will go down.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to build my muscle. I need to keep

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<v Speaker 2>my muscle up.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to keep moving, and so we need to

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<v Speaker 4>find ways to move. Have one of those little cycles

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<v Speaker 4>underneath your desk where while you're working you could cycle.

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<v Speaker 4>But these studies saying you know you could get away

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<v Speaker 4>with just one workout a week, that's I think too little,

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<v Speaker 4>because your body needs exercise. Your body was never designed

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<v Speaker 4>to sit in the cave as a caveman for twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four hours. Your body was designed to hunt, gather, get

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<v Speaker 4>up to go to the bathroom, chase the kid, go

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<v Speaker 4>and fish, climb the tree, grab the fruit. You were

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<v Speaker 4>designed to move, and those who don't move don't do well.

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<v Speaker 2>So to think that you could.

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<v Speaker 4>Do that six days a week and only one day move, no,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I don't really like these studies. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I get what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're only fitting in one workout on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 4>that's gonna still be worth something, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I credit them for that. Let's say your friend says.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I want you to come out and play pickleball

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<v Speaker 4>on Saturday and you go and you play pickleball for

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<v Speaker 4>an hour or two. That's gonna be a good workout.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't break any bones because people are breaking bones now

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<v Speaker 4>playing pickaball, But that's gonna be a good workout. But

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't mean you get to them. Blow off exercise

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the week. But what this does tell

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<v Speaker 4>you is try to do some activity on the weekend

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<v Speaker 4>if that's your time off. Walk the dogs, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do more housework, you know, go and check on the neighbors.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't drive up to your mailbox. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>things you could do to stay active. When it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to laundry. Let's say you have a laundry room. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe rather than trying to carry everything and everything fall

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<v Speaker 4>on the ground as you're going back to your apartment

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<v Speaker 4>or going back to where the laundry goes, why don't

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<v Speaker 4>you go piece by piece add find little ways to

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<v Speaker 4>add extra moves. You want to walk over to the

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen to bring your plate and your fork and your spoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Bring your fork, then go back, bring your plate, go back,

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<v Speaker 4>bring your cup.

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<v Speaker 2>Put some music on and dance to the music.

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<v Speaker 4>If there's a commercial or an ad break while watching

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<v Speaker 4>a movie, get up and walk back and forth in

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<v Speaker 4>your room. We talk about pedometer readings and how the

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<v Speaker 4>ten thousand steps was a marketing strategy back in the

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<v Speaker 4>sixties during the the I believe the Tokyo Olympics by

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<v Speaker 4>a company that wanted to sell panometers saying you need

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<v Speaker 4>ten thousand steps. It wasn't scientifically sound, but I love

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<v Speaker 4>that number. Ten thousand steps. Ten thousand steps is not

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<v Speaker 4>hard to do. Make yourself that goal. And if you're

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<v Speaker 4>getting ready to go to bed and you're only at

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<v Speaker 4>eighty five hundred, it only takes a few minutes to

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<v Speaker 4>get those extra fifteen hundred steps walk back and forth.

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<v Speaker 4>If you think that's gonna rev you up, then make

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<v Speaker 4>sure the next day you're doing your steps in the

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<v Speaker 4>morning so you could feel confident that you could go

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<v Speaker 4>to sleep. You know, it's it's it kills me that

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<v Speaker 4>we're trying to find shortcuts to doing something that.

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<v Speaker 2>Our body needs.

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<v Speaker 4>We're driving, we're taking buses, we're we're parking right up

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<v Speaker 4>to the door of where we work, or we're parking

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<v Speaker 4>in our garage, your car portal.

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<v Speaker 2>Right next to our apartment. You know, we I was

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<v Speaker 2>just in New.

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<v Speaker 4>York twice, actually and boy are people more slender there.

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<v Speaker 4>Why because they're walking everywhere, they're biking everywhere. But for

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<v Speaker 4>those of us who live more rural or suburban, we're

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<v Speaker 4>dry everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not exercising.

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<v Speaker 4>The only way we're gonna lose weight or keep our

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<v Speaker 4>weight down is not eating crap that effects and changes

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<v Speaker 4>our metabolism, eating smaller portions, eating healthier, clean, single ingredient foods,

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<v Speaker 4>and moving more. These GLP ones, they're only temporary, making

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<v Speaker 4>people not think of food noise. I watch that rebel.

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<v Speaker 2>I think her name is what Rebel Wilson.

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<v Speaker 4>She's losing weight, she's doing I think ROW or one

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<v Speaker 4>of these online h GLP one.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of things.

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<v Speaker 4>And you see her riding a bike and someone's offering

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<v Speaker 4>her rocky road. They're offering her food and and she's able.

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<v Speaker 2>To deal with the food noise.

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<v Speaker 4>I think those medications work really really well with that

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<v Speaker 4>until your body gets used to it. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to come up with then a plan when these GLP

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<v Speaker 4>one stop working, and for everybody I think, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it happens or you can't afford it anymore because there's

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<v Speaker 4>too expensive, even at five hundred a month, So build

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<v Speaker 4>that muscle. Keep exercising, and I love that she's exercising,

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<v Speaker 4>and she's talking about making good food choices because you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Just rely on the shot.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't just rely on exercising once a day.

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<v Speaker 2>My problem with.

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<v Speaker 4>Exercising is I want a roller skate, I want a

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<v Speaker 4>bike ride, and I'm falling.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't want to break anything. Pickleball.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, my husband almost broke a bone play pickle ball.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're gonna have to find exercise that you could

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Dolli Show one eight seven seven dot Dolli one

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<v Speaker 4>You can't make this stuff up. So in New York City,

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<v Speaker 4>you know how they want to do those government run

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<v Speaker 4>grocery stores where they're going to be providing staples of

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<v Speaker 4>food at thirty percent off. Other options at the store

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<v Speaker 4>may be still regular price, but they want eggs and

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<v Speaker 2>Be thirty percent off. YEA, well, that's great. It sounds beautiful,

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<v Speaker 4>You know, all these socialist ideas seem to make people salivate, going.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, look at all these goodies, look at all.

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<v Speaker 4>These you know, uh, you know, free healthcare and free

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<v Speaker 2>They make it all sound good until.

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<v Speaker 4>supply because somebody buys out the cheaper stuff, either resells

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<v Speaker 4>it or stocks up on it.

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<v Speaker 2>So excuse me.

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<v Speaker 4>When Mamdani mayor Mamdannie New York was asked about that, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to ensure that the people who this

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<v Speaker 2>is for is going to be able to take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's going to involve some sort of ID. Now

434
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<v Speaker 4>this is coming from the same group of individuals who are.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Anti voter ID. It's it's just ridiculous. It's the hypocrisy man.

436
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<v Speaker 2>So New York.

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<v Speaker 4>City mayors Ara Momdami earlier this week said what they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to use as a quote library card esque system

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<v Speaker 4>to be employed to prevent abuse at these markets. You see,

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<v Speaker 4>this is an example of promising without looking at the

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<v Speaker 4>ramifications and understanding the.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Infrastructure of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So a reporter asked about how are they going to

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<v Speaker 4>prevent bulk purchases of groceries at the artificial discount from

445
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<v Speaker 4>being resold at MSRP or higher. According to Fox News,

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<v Speaker 4>So the mayor responded that the government.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Grocery request for proposal.

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<v Speaker 4>Makes clear that this is a program for New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to put food on the table, not

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<v Speaker 4>a program for people to be able to make a

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<v Speaker 4>quick buck through reselling.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he pass it over to his EDC head.

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<v Speaker 4>Jenny Pack, to add additional details. So then she said,

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<v Speaker 4>we are looking to make sure that we target New Yorkers,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it be a sort of library card esque thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and also we manage who's buying and that is focused

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<v Speaker 4>on everyday New Yorkers, she said, So we are mindful

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<v Speaker 4>of that, and so we're going to make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>we have all the things in place to ensure that

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<v Speaker 4>does not happen. Well, if that's the case, that would

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<v Speaker 4>mean some sort of ID When asked about the parent divergence,

462
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<v Speaker 4>according to Fox News, between Pack's response referencing a possible

463
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<v Speaker 4>ID card system and opposition to voter ID, a Mandami

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<v Speaker 4>spokesperson said it was an apples to orange contrast. They said,

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<v Speaker 4>comparisons to voter ID laws or the save Act simply

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<v Speaker 4>do not apply. This is not an identification system, nor

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<v Speaker 4>is it a mechanism to verify who someone is, where

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<v Speaker 4>they live, or how much they earn, even though they

469
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<v Speaker 4>just docked close to a million apartment owners.

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<v Speaker 2>For that Pettitteer tax.

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<v Speaker 4>So, according to Mondonnie spokesperson, they said, it is a

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<v Speaker 4>practical inventory management tool.

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<v Speaker 2>To ensure affordability.

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<v Speaker 4>Groceries remain available for the people who need them instead

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<v Speaker 4>of being cleared.

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<v Speaker 2>Off shelves for resale, they say.

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<v Speaker 4>The spokesperson pointed to the mayor's comments specifically regarding book

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<v Speaker 4>buying concerns, saying that the premise of the reporter's question

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<v Speaker 4>not whether people from Pennsylvania, New Jersey or upstate New

480
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<v Speaker 4>York will be able to shop at the subsidized outlets.

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<v Speaker 4>So they said, to be absolutely clear, New York City

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<v Speaker 4>grocery stores will be open to everyone. There will be

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<v Speaker 4>no system to verify identity, residency, or income, and no

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<v Speaker 4>one will be asked to show ID to shop.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then, then.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you ensuring you're helping the individuals who need

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<v Speaker 4>the help? Okay, we have seen people take advantage of discounts,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean somebody could.

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<v Speaker 2>Very easily drive to that burrow, jump out of the car,

490
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<v Speaker 2>say ride.

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<v Speaker 4>Around the block a couple of times, go and get

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<v Speaker 4>their groceries come out. I mean, are they going to

493
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<v Speaker 4>limit how much milk you could buy? How are they

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<v Speaker 4>going to you know, the whole purpose of this is

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<v Speaker 4>to help the very New Yorkers who need the need

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<v Speaker 4>the financial assistance. Unless that's really what they don't want

497
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<v Speaker 4>to do. Is it that they want to make all

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<v Speaker 4>these promises this DSA group and say look, we made

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<v Speaker 4>good on.

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<v Speaker 2>It, whether it works or.

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<v Speaker 4>Not, and say, yes, it is helping people. People are

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<v Speaker 4>getting cheaper groceries. Well yeah, is it the people who

503
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<v Speaker 4>need the cheaper groceries or is it the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking advantage they don't?

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<v Speaker 4>They might not have to worry about that. They in

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<v Speaker 4>their mind might be, look, we just have to make

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<v Speaker 4>the grocery stores, get them rolled out as quickly as possible,

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<v Speaker 4>show that they're giving thirty percent off discounts, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we could say we're in the clear. And that's not

510
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<v Speaker 4>the way you govern. So instead of the ID, what

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<v Speaker 4>they might do is something like a customer card, similar

512
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<v Speaker 4>to loyalty programs that other grocers like Shoprid or food

513
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<v Speaker 4>Lion or weice. So the customer card would be designed

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<v Speaker 4>by the private operator of the city run store to

515
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<v Speaker 4>help manage supply, prevent people from buying large quantities of

516
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 4>discounted staples for resale, and is strictly intended to make

517
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<v Speaker 4>sure the savings reach families putting food on the table. Yeah,

518
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<v Speaker 4>but don't you need for a customer card? Don't you

519
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<v Speaker 4>need ID? So this is this is it's this is

520
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<v Speaker 4>ludicrous and listen, listen. I want people to get as

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<v Speaker 4>I've been a big fan of the Wick program where

522
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<v Speaker 4>if somebody needs milk or fish or staples, they could

523
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<v Speaker 4>go into the store, show their Wick card and actually

524
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<v Speaker 4>get the milk, actually get the food. I love the

525
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<v Speaker 4>idea of individuals and families who don't have the funds

526
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<v Speaker 4>to feed their family to actually get the food to

527
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:01.559
<v Speaker 4>feed their family. I support that entirely. Hypocrisy is ridiculous.

528
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<v Speaker 4>And so the DSA has put themselves into.

529
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<v Speaker 2>A corner where where.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if they're so anti voter ID, then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>how are they you know, identifying who gets to you know,

532
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<v Speaker 4>you know, take advantage of all the goodies they want

533
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<v Speaker 4>to give. Now, when it comes to the city buses,

534
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 4>it's just gonna be whoever wants to ride the bus

535
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 4>can ride it for free. So they're they're going to

536
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.240
<v Speaker 4>try to get away from the id that way. But

537
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<v Speaker 4>what's happening when then with the city buses, well, people

538
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<v Speaker 4>who need, you know, a warm area to sleep or

539
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<v Speaker 4>need to be in the cool homeless people are going

540
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<v Speaker 4>to be sleeping and living on the buses and this

541
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<v Speaker 4>is something that we have found in the past happened.

542
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<v Speaker 4>So then the average person is not going to be

543
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<v Speaker 4>able to use the bus for commutes. So it's it's

544
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<v Speaker 4>what they want to do and what they claim they

545
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<v Speaker 4>can do. Uh in theory is not very practical. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the bodegas and the small business grocery stores,

547
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<v Speaker 4>they're going to be hurting as a result of these

548
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<v Speaker 4>How are they going to compete with a local borough

549
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<v Speaker 4>grocery store that's selling food at thirty percent less? Now,

550
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<v Speaker 4>we all believe that the supply is going to run

551
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<v Speaker 4>low where they're not going to be able to have

552
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<v Speaker 4>enough stock, So somebody next to one of these stores

553
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 4>will probably do well because somebody is going to go

554
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<v Speaker 4>in want to get their thirty percent off milk or

555
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.319
<v Speaker 4>thirty percent off meat, it's going to be gone. Somebody

556
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 4>will have already bought it up, so they're going to

557
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<v Speaker 4>have to go to the store next to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Or the bodega to go and get the food they need.

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<v Speaker 4>So most likely, you know, I think, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>the stores are run as poorly as they have before,

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<v Speaker 4>the the you know, the the I think the small

562
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<v Speaker 4>business owners, especially since there's only five of these stores

563
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<v Speaker 4>that are going to be in the whole entire city

564
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<v Speaker 4>of New York City, I think small business will do

565
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<v Speaker 4>okay in the long run.

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<v Speaker 2>If this grows, they could get killed. They could just.

567
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<v Speaker 4>Completely get get priced out of the market. And and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when the Democratic Socialists are all about going

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<v Speaker 4>after the rim, which who's protecting then the small business

570
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<v Speaker 4>owner that's trying to make a living and has very

571
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<v Speaker 4>high overhead and you know, minimum profit, you know, selling

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<v Speaker 4>basic food and groceries.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's going to be interesting to see what they do, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I mean, it's it's a joke, what what what

575
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<v Speaker 4>what the DSA wants to do?

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<v Speaker 2>And and and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it doesn't look like they thought things through.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad the reporters are challenging them on it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I want people to get the food they need.

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Oz announced a nationwide auditive Medicaid programs, saying that

639
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<v Speaker 4>as agency plans to require states to take more responsibility

640
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<v Speaker 4>in combating healthcare fraud, it blows my mind that this

641
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<v Speaker 4>isn't already done. According to doctor Oz, he said, it's

642
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 4>an example of what would like them to do to

643
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 4>prove that they're serious about this. And if you don't

644
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 4>take it seriously, it indicates to us that we might

645
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 4>have to take the audits that we're doing to the

646
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 4>different states more aggressively. So with what's going on in Philadelphia,

647
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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to be getting more details a little

648
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 4>bit later today, but there were I believe again false claims,

649
00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:00.079
<v Speaker 4>ghost visits that were billed for, and we believe that

650
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 4>one of the culprits was even doing this out of jail.

651
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm just blown away that.

652
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 4>You know, when when I took care of patients with

653
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<v Speaker 4>Medicare and Medicaid, I mean, as with any other insurance

654
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 4>HICCK for form, we made sure that we were using

655
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 4>the utmost accuracy because the consequences not only from a

656
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 4>criminal standpoint, but also from a logistical standpoint and from

657
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 4>a patient care standpoint.

658
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Is disastrous.

659
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:33.920
<v Speaker 4>If you bill incorrectly, if you bill inappropriately, if you

660
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, get get audited or committed or accused of fraud,

661
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 4>it's it's just an absolute mess.

662
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 2>And so you just don't mess, you know, you don't

663
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<v Speaker 2>do it wrong.

664
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<v Speaker 4>It's it's But but when there's lack of oversight, and

665
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.519
<v Speaker 4>this is what we had in the previous administration, in

666
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.400
<v Speaker 4>the previous few years, where whoever was in charge didn't care.

667
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 4>They didn't monitor the border, they didn't look at people's

668
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 4>past criminal records, they didn't look at you know, a

669
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:03.079
<v Speaker 4>voter ID and snap benefit.

670
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 2>They just completely.

671
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:11.599
<v Speaker 4>Ignored, you know, all avenues where individuals could take advantage

672
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 4>and and find susceptibilities and vulnerabilities in.

673
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>The systems and such that now we've got.

674
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 4>So many people take advantage for years, we have to

675
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 4>unroot it and unrooted and pull it out by the roots.

676
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Is very very difficult, especially when we're barely finding the

677
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:28.519
<v Speaker 4>little leaves of the tree.

678
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying out some new metaphors here.

679
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 4>And so what ends up happening whenever something like this

680
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 4>happens is then the honest, innocent people like the patients

681
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.079
<v Speaker 4>or the medical providers now have.

682
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.159
<v Speaker 2>More hoops to go through more work.

683
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Now that there's there's more scrutiny, you're gonna have some

684
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 4>individuals say, you know what, all right, that's fine, but

685
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't have the staff, I don't have the manpower,

686
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:56.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to.

687
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Be accused of fraud.

688
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 4>So I'm just gonna not take Medicare. I'm just going

689
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.840
<v Speaker 4>to not take Medicaid. And we're hearing a rise in

690
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 4>medical providers avoid using government run healthcare so that they

691
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 4>don't get caught up in this mess. Now there's the

692
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.320
<v Speaker 4>individuals that are actually committing fraud, and then there's the

693
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 4>individuals who are doing good. But now they're going to

694
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 4>have much more oversight, much more documentation, much more burdensome, red.

695
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Tape, and bureaucracy.

696
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 4>Why because the bad people screwed it up for the

697
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.320
<v Speaker 4>good people. And so the people who are really getting

698
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 4>hurt are the patients. The ones with medicare the ones

699
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.960
<v Speaker 4>with Medicaid. The old Medicaid was a real pain in

700
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.480
<v Speaker 4>the butt. I remember early on in the early two thousands,

701
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:45.559
<v Speaker 4>where patients would get Medicare, Medicaid eligible, but it didn't

702
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 4>mean that they were going to have Medicaid pay for

703
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 4>their care, and so doctors were not getting paid. So

704
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 4>what did doctors end up doing saying, well, look, we're

705
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 4>just not taking Medicaid, And so you had Medicaid patients

706
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 4>scrambling for doctors who would take their cases.

707
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>So it was it was it. You know, nobody's gonna.

708
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 4>Cry a river or play a violin for doctors. But

709
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 4>and I don't want people to, but whenever we have

710
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 4>a system that really starts to affect how patients can

711
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 4>access healthcare, that's gonna be Let me just switch gears

712
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 4>for a quick second on how this fraud happens and

713
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 4>why it's so rampant. When a doctor is legitimate and

714
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 4>seeing seeing or a nurse partitioner or a PA, they're

715
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 4>seeing a patient, they order a test, they administer care, they.

716
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Document, and they have to document very very thoroughly.

717
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.000
<v Speaker 4>And that documentation doesn't mean that the visit happened at

718
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.480
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent. But you have a lot of checks

719
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 4>and balances in terms of well, the patient came in,

720
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 4>the patient checked in, the patient provided payment, the patient

721
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 4>had an exam, a nurse did vitals, so there's multiple

722
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 4>people involved. There's witnesses that saw the patient, you took

723
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:08.039
<v Speaker 4>care of the patient, you documented. Sometimes U will will

724
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 4>have a chaperone in the room saying, yes, I saw

725
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 4>the procedure, witness the procedure. Patient gets a prescription, they

726
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 4>go and get that prescription. There's a pharmacy or a

727
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.440
<v Speaker 4>medical supply company, and so there's many people involved in

728
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:25.400
<v Speaker 4>that train of care such that when a person goes

729
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.079
<v Speaker 4>from point A to point Z, there's enough proof that

730
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 4>that care was given. What's happening with these fraud cases

731
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 4>is there's submitting claims.

732
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>On work that was never done, either with.

733
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<v Speaker 4>A fake patient or with a patient that says, yeah,

734
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 4>go ahead and use my name.

735
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll say you saw me.

736
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 4>But the fraud can be anywhere from you not having

737
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 4>done the service to you, doing an unnecessary service to you,

738
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 4>overdoing a service for you, charging for repeated services. The

739
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:02.320
<v Speaker 4>fraud is so general that there's many ways that people

740
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 4>might think they're trying to evade the system, but they're

741
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 4>still screwing the system and screwing the taxpayers over and

742
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 4>so anybody involved and that obviously is complicit and you

743
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 4>know should have you know, criminal charges against him. Unfortunately,

744
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 4>some of the victims within this are the actual patients.

745
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 4>So the patient goes into the medical provider thinks, Okay,

746
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm just having my regular medical visit done. I'm getting

747
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 4>my burn care done, or I'm getting my medical supplies,

748
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 4>or I'm getting my treatment, and then the doctor decides

749
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 4>to go, yeah, I had to see them three times

750
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 4>this week, or I had to in addition, give them

751
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 4>something else to take home, and the patient is just unaware.

752
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 4>So somebody asks a patient, did you see this doctor? Yeah,

753
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 4>I saw the doctor.

754
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Did he take care of him? Yes he did. Did

755
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.519
<v Speaker 2>you get X, Y and Z? Well I thought I did,

756
00:41:57.599 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I did, maybe I didn't.

757
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:02.920
<v Speaker 4>And so when they start to slip in extra charges

758
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 4>or slip so you know, when people are fraudulent or criminal,

759
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 4>they start out small and they see what they could

760
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.039
<v Speaker 4>get away with, where they could sandwich in the fraud,

761
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 4>and then some of them go, you know what, nobody's looking,

762
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 4>nobody's paying attention, and then they.

763
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Just outright go blatant.

764
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:24.400
<v Speaker 4>And unfortunately, we're only finding the blatant cases.

765
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.360
<v Speaker 2>And so when I hear, you.

766
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Know, time after time that we're finding three hundred and

767
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 4>fifteen billion in fraud or seven hundred and fifteen million

768
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:36.519
<v Speaker 4>or all these different I think in Chicago, Chicago prosecutors

769
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 4>have indicated to indicted two people for three hundred and

770
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 4>fifteen million in fraudulent billy. That's just in Chicago, you know,

771
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:49.000
<v Speaker 4>and this was reported about six weeks ago. When you

772
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 4>hear of these cases, it's the ones that are rampant,

773
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.480
<v Speaker 4>and you wonder how much of the mild subtle I

774
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 4>don't want to say mile.

775
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 2>None of it is mild, but the.

776
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:02.920
<v Speaker 4>More subtle, co vert fraud is being done where people

777
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 4>are starting to dip their toe into the fraud water.

778
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.000
<v Speaker 4>And so unfortunately, the fraud is very easy to do.

779
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.000
<v Speaker 4>And I know people are talking about the honor system.

780
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 4>It's really not an honor system. And honor system is

781
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.119
<v Speaker 4>just take my word for it. No, you're supposed to

782
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 4>document if you're given a medical supply, there's a sticker

783
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 4>on that, and you're supposed to write the code or

784
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 4>put that code in the chart. There's always a paper trail.

785
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 4>You're supposed to be doing the paper trail.

786
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Some people are playing dumb, they're not being very diligent.

787
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.840
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh woe is me, Oh I.

788
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 4>Forgot to put that down, or the patient forgot.

789
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 2>To take it or oops, my bad, but no.

790
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 3>No.

791
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Fraud means there's intent, and there's recurrence, and there's malice,

792
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:50.239
<v Speaker 4>and so it's pretty easy to find one eight seven

793
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795
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796
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