Speaker 1: Now one of your putting. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here. Something just kids, my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the or over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, and
Speaker 1: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 1: over the fence and me was dead once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground, like. I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Say, what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: It was staying enough. I'm out here looking through the
Speaker 1: window now and I don't see anything. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go outside. Jesus, quiet you better or hello? Hit
Speaker 1: the boddy out here? What went on out there? I
Speaker 1: thought of a bit of about sixty nine. I don't
Speaker 1: know him out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Oh, Readings is Fred and Alaska.
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 3: What I wanted to share with you today comes from Edwin.
Speaker 3: Edwin had originally come up about a decade ago, and
Speaker 3: he was working a cannery, and then he worked a
Speaker 3: fishing boat. He worked his way around in the industry.
Speaker 3: He ended up in my neck of the woods back
Speaker 3: over in Dillingham. He was working for Peter Pan and Seafoods.
Speaker 3: This was approximately four years ago, the year before the
Speaker 3: COVID crap, So four or five years ago. Edwin along
Speaker 3: with a couple of Filipino canry workers that he worked with.
Speaker 3: One of them had a car that he was borrowing
Speaker 3: from another friend or what have you. So they decided
Speaker 3: they're gonna take a trip out and see what you
Speaker 3: know Alaska is about. So even though Edwin had been
Speaker 3: around the industry, he was always out in the water
Speaker 3: or stuck in a canary. So having the tunity to
Speaker 3: go somewhere like Snake Lake, they were all over it.
Speaker 3: So from what Edwin said, which there's a little bit
Speaker 3: of a language barrier, he was from Poland. His real
Speaker 3: name isn't Edwin. I can't pronounce it. It's above my
Speaker 3: pay grade. So what ends up happening to him and
Speaker 3: his Filipino friends. They jet out up to Snake Lake Road.
Speaker 3: They passed China Cap he said, they stopped at those
Speaker 3: gravel pits. They're on the right hand side as you're
Speaker 3: going back up in there, he said. When they got
Speaker 3: up on the mountain, they stopped to overlook the vast
Speaker 3: valley and just the beauty of it. And he said
Speaker 3: one of the Filipino guys he had a pistol. So
Speaker 3: what they decided they were going to do is try
Speaker 3: to shoot a pond is probably two miles away. They
Speaker 3: were just dicking around with a pistol and busting shots,
Speaker 3: and of course they're not hitting anything because it just
Speaker 3: sheer distance.
Speaker 4: They weren't going to hit nothing. But after they were.
Speaker 3: Done dumping some mags, Edwin said that they heard a
Speaker 3: weird shrill, like a child screaming. It gives me the chills,
Speaker 3: is thinking about behind them, up above them. He said
Speaker 3: he wasn't sure how far, but it sounded real close
Speaker 3: because it sounded like the kid was standing behind them,
Speaker 3: shrieking squeal kind of a It shocked all of them.
Speaker 3: They turned around. They were like, oh, we didn't even
Speaker 3: know kid was there. They thought they startled a kid
Speaker 3: by firing, so they were turning around to say sorry
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 4: Nothing was there. Edwin said.
Speaker 3: One of the Filipino guys start pointing up in the
Speaker 3: woods and started saying something in his home tongue, and
Speaker 3: he couldn't make up what he say he was telling
Speaker 3: him because the guy was getting real worked up, and
Speaker 3: finally Edwin said he calmed him down enough to figure
Speaker 3: out he was saying, they're the monster up there, right.
Speaker 3: They were thinking, oh, bear, Oh, this monster is a bear.
Speaker 3: Edwin thought it would be a good idea if he
Speaker 3: walked up a little ways to flesh it out, because
Speaker 3: the other guy didn't see it and wanted to see
Speaker 3: the bear. One guy that initially saw this thing was like, no,
Speaker 3: let's go, Let's get in the Carlos go. Because he
Speaker 3: wasn't explaining to them what had happened. Edwin, for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: he took the pistol, reloaded it, figured, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: scare the bear out. My buddy will get a look
Speaker 3: at it, we'll get out of here. He wasn't scared
Speaker 3: of bears, teaches on. I'm not scared of bears. I'd
Speaker 3: just rather be prepared for him with something better than
Speaker 3: a nine milimeters pistol.
Speaker 4: But anyway, teaches on.
Speaker 3: So he goes up in there and he's got the
Speaker 3: pistol and he's going to do all the alders and
Speaker 3: stuff in the willows, and he's not making any headway. Man.
Speaker 3: He said that he got in there and it was
Speaker 3: a tangle. It was just try to push through like
Speaker 3: a humongous, very strong spider web, and so he backed out,
Speaker 3: tried to go up a little further and try to
Speaker 3: make a way through one of the game trails, but
Speaker 3: he would ended up down on his knees and was like,
Speaker 3: screw this. He felt very vulnerable, so he backs up.
Speaker 3: He comes back down the hill and his friends are
Speaker 3: in the car. The one guy was started blaring on
Speaker 3: the horn because they didn't see him come down to
Speaker 3: the backside of the car, and he banged on the
Speaker 3: trunk to get him to stop honking the horn, and
Speaker 3: they turn around and startled, and it was shocked, and
Speaker 3: He's like they were yelling, get in I'm not laughing
Speaker 3: at the guy. I'm just mentally picturing these two freaked
Speaker 3: out dudes in the car saying get the hell in here,
Speaker 3: and Edwin's oblivi to what they're doing. He figured, oh,
Speaker 3: they must saw the bear. So he's not actually listening
Speaker 3: to these guys, which he later regrets. He walks in
Speaker 3: front of the car a little ways and is looking
Speaker 3: up the hill. What he didn't realize is this thing
Speaker 3: had come down the hill, crossed in front of these
Speaker 3: two guys within twenty five feet and just dropped barely
Speaker 3: down off this side of the road. So he's looking
Speaker 3: up and he's basically walking up and turning his back
Speaker 3: at the very spot where this thing just went down
Speaker 3: over their rise right, and so horn blaring again, and
Speaker 3: he's holding the pistol still, and he's looking back. He's
Speaker 3: telling him to stop. He's trying to get a look,
Speaker 3: and he wants to see this bear, and he figured
Speaker 3: it had to be big if they're scared, and for
Speaker 3: whatever reason edwin it didn't FaZe him. For whatever reason,
Speaker 3: he still doesn't understand it. So he walks a little
Speaker 3: further to see if there's a trail up better than
Speaker 3: the one he had just tried. And again he freely
Speaker 3: admits he was making one mistake after another. So he
Speaker 3: sees the spot and then he notices where there's a footstep,
Speaker 3: and then he notices he looks down, he sees another footstep,
Speaker 3: and so he's like, oh, and he looks at it
Speaker 3: and he looks like a big human footprint. And as
Speaker 3: he's looking down at it, that shrieked, shrill, childlike screen
Speaker 3: came from right behind him. It startled the crap out
Speaker 3: him so much he dropped the gun out of just shock.
Speaker 3: Dropped gun, turns around and only sees just the top
Speaker 3: of the head and the eyes from about right here,
Speaker 3: just off the road down going down, because it's the
Speaker 3: spot they were at, was just before it dropped into
Speaker 3: the sheer drop offs, a little further up on Snake
Speaker 3: Lake Road. And so this thing is down looking up
Speaker 3: at him, and he's looking across at it, and he's
Speaker 3: maybe fifteen feet away.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 3: The top of the head looked very round, and the
Speaker 3: eyes looked almost too small for its head, but in context,
Speaker 3: the head was huge and the eyes were beady and
Speaker 3: pitch black. He saw it blank, and he's trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what the hell he's seeing because it's not
Speaker 3: a bear, and it's still making these weird but cooling
Speaker 3: noise and the different types of sounds he ain't never
Speaker 3: heard before. It didn't relate to any animal he could
Speaker 3: pick out, just strange whistles and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 3: Edwin said, as he's staring, horn starts blaring again, and
Speaker 3: that's what snapped him out of his staring, and he
Speaker 3: looks over is they're literally crawling out of their skin
Speaker 3: trying to get Edwin get the hell back in that car.
Speaker 3: Edwin reaches down and as soon as he's grabbing the pistol,
Speaker 3: he feels dump and this thing is less than four
Speaker 3: feet away, because when he looks back, he sees it
Speaker 3: and he looks up. Edwin is six foot two, he
Speaker 3: said he had to look up at it, and he's
Speaker 3: guessing it had to have been between ten and eleven
Speaker 3: foot tall. He said the head was very big and round,
Speaker 3: the jaw was very wide set, black hair, very greasy,
Speaker 3: almost pitch black skin, but it looked great because of
Speaker 3: the greasy kind of complexion to it. Beat the eyes,
Speaker 3: he couldn't make out any ears, and he's in a
Speaker 3: compromised position. He's bent over to grab this pistol. The
Speaker 3: Filipinos in the car lost, they have lost it. They
Speaker 3: are both in the back seat, hunkered down low. They
Speaker 3: want no parts of this. Right the horn blaring had stopped.
Speaker 3: Edwin said that part of him wanted to grab the
Speaker 3: pistol and tell it to get back, and the other
Speaker 3: part of him, he sensed that he was in serious
Speaker 3: danger if he did so. He just turned around and
Speaker 3: faced it, not looking in his eye. He was trying
Speaker 3: to examine it. He said the torso was abnormally longer
Speaker 3: than the legs. It seemed like the legs didn't match
Speaker 3: what should be there for torso. The black hair and
Speaker 3: everything obscured everything. He had twigs and stuff in the hair,
Speaker 3: and he said the smell was putrid, like dead meat
Speaker 3: with a heavy body odor and urine smell, very heavy,
Speaker 3: he says, very pungent. He said the clothes he was wearing.
Speaker 3: It didn't touch him anything, but he was about four
Speaker 3: feet away. The clothes he was wearing stunk like that
Speaker 3: even after washing, so it had to been pretty futrid
Speaker 3: for that kind of a holdover as far as the smell,
Speaker 3: so he doesn't know what to do. He's standing there
Speaker 3: and he's not wanting to make eye contact, but the
Speaker 3: thing isn't moving. It's breathing heavy.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 3: He was making a gurgling sound as it breathed. It
Speaker 3: really struck him to his core. He said that he
Speaker 3: was having an odd out of body experience, but all
Speaker 3: he could see in his out of body experience was
Speaker 3: looking down over his shoulders, basically just above himself. Still
Speaker 3: wasn't looking to sing in the eye, which is what
Speaker 3: do you do with that? He said, he was so scared.
Speaker 4: He felt like he was having heart palpitations or whatever.
Speaker 4: He thought he's going to have a heart attack.
Speaker 3: He was healthy, young guy, mid thirties, strong, active, worked
Speaker 3: hard his whole life, so he never had a heart problem.
Speaker 3: But he was so panic stricken and worked up. And
Speaker 3: he said, as he's standing there, he said no. He
Speaker 3: screamed no, and it startled, this creature, and it took
Speaker 3: a half step back, turned and walked about ten feet away,
Speaker 3: and then turned back around and squatted down off the
Speaker 3: side of the road. When it came up, he initially
Speaker 3: turned towards it and then his out of body thing.
Speaker 3: And then as he starts yelling no, he's turning himself,
Speaker 3: and this thing turned and walked over into his field
Speaker 3: of view, turned and squatted down and was looking right
Speaker 3: back at him. He said it was very inquisitive looking.
Speaker 3: And then at that point, because it was further away,
Speaker 3: he decided to grab the pistol from the ground. He
Speaker 3: grabbed the pistol and he held it, and he said,
Speaker 3: the thing just looked at him. Was just kind of
Speaker 3: the expression in his face changed. I went from curious
Speaker 3: to okay, what now. This is a feeling he got.
Speaker 3: Then Edwin said, as soon as he felt confident holding
Speaker 3: the pistol, he lost it. He lost all confidence and
Speaker 3: dropped the guy. He said, he doesn't know what came
Speaker 3: over him, but he felt that if he continued to
Speaker 3: hold that pistol, he was dead. Once he dropped the gun,
Speaker 3: he bent down and sat Indian style and was looking
Speaker 3: back at this thing that was squatted down like fifteen
Speaker 3: feet away, and he said it was massive. He was
Speaker 3: taking in its size because once he sat Indian style
Speaker 3: and this thing was squatted down, he could see its girth,
Speaker 3: its mass, and even though it seemed skinny, when it
Speaker 3: was standing up, he said, you could see every muscle,
Speaker 3: ripple everything. He said, it's hand, the thumb was offset
Speaker 3: further this way. And this thing started not pawing at
Speaker 3: the ground but reaching on the ground and doing something right.
Speaker 3: And he couldn't make out what it was doing, but
Speaker 3: it was doing something specific to it. He couldn't tell
Speaker 3: if it was trying to write something on the ground.
Speaker 3: He couldn't tell if it was just like we doodle
Speaker 3: on paper or something. He couldn't figure it out. Because
Speaker 3: this thing stopped paying attention to him and was doing
Speaker 3: that thing on the ground, and he said, as it
Speaker 3: was doing that, he was trying to figure out what
Speaker 3: the hell. And then that's when he snapped out of
Speaker 3: it again because his Filipino friends in the car. The
Speaker 3: car started and the horn blared with the car starting
Speaker 3: and the horn in unison because Edwin turned around and
Speaker 3: the cars coming at him right so he didn't watch
Speaker 3: this thing. He didn't watch the creature, but he turned
Speaker 3: around and basically eased up onto the hood as his
Speaker 3: friends came at him, and then as soon as he
Speaker 3: was on the hood, they gunned it. And this thing
Speaker 3: is as he looked back, he could already see it
Speaker 3: going over the edge of the road and dropping down
Speaker 3: off the side. They went down a little ways and
Speaker 3: Edwin was banging him up because he was sliding off.
Speaker 3: He wasn't going to last much longer. They stop, He
Speaker 3: got off and he ran back to where he had
Speaker 3: dropped the gun. They're backing up. They're doing a twenty
Speaker 3: five point turnaround, which on that road is just absurd.
Speaker 3: If you're curious, what kind of car is an old
Speaker 3: Chevrolet Chavette little ford or he said it was an
Speaker 3: early eighties model or something like that, eighty two or
Speaker 3: eighty three. But anyway, so he runs back and grabs
Speaker 3: the pistol. The pistol had been run over. It wasn't compromise,
Speaker 3: it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Broke, say, but it was a bit out of operation.
Speaker 4: And so he's got it.
Speaker 3: He's trying to work the action and when he jumped
Speaker 3: up on the hood, they end up running over the pistol.
Speaker 3: And so what that did was packed a bunch of
Speaker 3: dirt in between the slide and the frame, and so
Speaker 3: it's a lot of extra friction. And so finally he
Speaker 3: gets it, pops the round out of it, and took
Speaker 3: the magazine out. The bottom plate of the magazine was
Speaker 3: torn off a little bit, but it was still functional,
Speaker 3: and he's working the slide to get the dirt out
Speaker 3: of it and stuff. Puts the magazine back in, and
Speaker 3: as he goes to racket, the base plate of the
Speaker 3: mag let go and all of it just fell out
Speaker 3: the bottom. So he had one round in this nine millimeter.
Speaker 3: His friends are behind him still doing this twenty point
Speaker 3: turnaround right and they're yelling out the window out of
Speaker 3: all sorts of curse words and idiot, what are you
Speaker 3: doing all this kind of stuff? And so he said,
Speaker 3: as he's standing there just trying to take in everything
Speaker 3: that just happened, because he said it was so surreal.
Speaker 3: He could not believe that this was actually happening. And
Speaker 3: he said, as he was working the action, because at
Speaker 3: this point it was just like a nervous tick, He's
Speaker 3: just working hell out of that action. As he's doing so,
Speaker 3: he had emptied the round. The round was on the ground,
Speaker 3: the other bullets were on the ground, and he was
Speaker 3: just basically in shock working this action.
Speaker 4: And I asked him, I was like, how long were
Speaker 4: you like that? What drew you out of it? Did
Speaker 4: they come back up in the car?
Speaker 3: So he goes, no, what had happened is as he's
Speaker 3: facing off that edge basically where he initially sought, just
Speaker 3: its head and its eyes, he was basically at the
Speaker 3: same spot, maybe a little further away, and he's just
Speaker 3: working that action. And as he's doing so, he said,
Speaker 3: this thing was right back almost at the same spot,
Speaker 3: looking at him from the same kind of point of view, right,
Speaker 3: and so he froze, And as he froze, he said,
Speaker 3: he felt the bumper of the car bump into his
Speaker 3: leg and that's what snapped him out of it.
Speaker 4: And the guys are looking at when it was get in.
Speaker 3: The guy on the passenger side, he crawled into the
Speaker 3: back and he was pointing off the edge, and of
Speaker 3: course Edwin was still looking at this thing, so he understood.
Speaker 3: He jumps in, and as they take off back down
Speaker 3: the road, Edwin's trying to look back and get a glance.
Speaker 3: This thing came back up onto the road and then
Speaker 3: went right up the mountain, just right on up.
Speaker 4: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 4: be right back after these messages, he said.
Speaker 3: The initial alders and willis he tried to crawl through
Speaker 3: were a maze of holy shit trying to get through there.
Speaker 3: He said, this thing just went like it was nothing,
Speaker 3: just right on up the mountain and disappeared out of you.
Speaker 3: Because of the vantage point on the road and the
Speaker 3: turns and stuff, they ended up getting a flat tire
Speaker 3: because once they got back down by the gravel pit area,
Speaker 3: the guy driving got a little squirrely and the old
Speaker 3: tires on there once it kicked sideways, that popped one
Speaker 3: of the rear tires. They did not care, not even
Speaker 3: a little bit. They continued on down with the flat tire,
Speaker 3: and all they got to China Cap, which we called
Speaker 3: um up the mountain, which and I'll leave that alone anyway.
Speaker 3: So they get down to China Cap only because it's
Speaker 3: shaped like an old Chinese type style hat. So when
Speaker 3: they get there, they stop and they're taking a breather,
Speaker 3: and they start talking to each other, what the hell,
Speaker 3: why were you doing that? And Edwin didn't have an answer.
Speaker 3: But he doesn't know why he was possessed to not flee.
Speaker 3: He said it was the weirdest thing. He said, it
Speaker 3: almost felt like this thing was drawing him in to
Speaker 3: its curiosity, not Edwin's, and asked him, can you flesh
Speaker 3: that out a little bit? Can you explain that a
Speaker 3: little better? And he didn't have an explanation. He said,
Speaker 3: he just had the feeling that this thing was drawing
Speaker 3: him into this thing's curiosity. When it went and sat
Speaker 3: squatted down, he said, he had the strangest feeling like
Speaker 3: it was trying to tell him something. But he's freaked out.
Speaker 3: He's worried about pistol grabbing the gun. All the stuff
Speaker 3: is happening. He was expecting it to be a bear,
Speaker 3: and so it was just a conundrum. And he said,
Speaker 3: but to this day, four or five years later, to
Speaker 3: this day, he feels like this thing was trying to
Speaker 3: communicate something to him on the ground, right, he said,
Speaker 3: the way it was very It wasn't random just swirling
Speaker 3: around of the hand. It was like it was doing
Speaker 3: something with its hand. Whether it was writing with its
Speaker 3: hand or trying to draw something.
Speaker 4: He didn't know.
Speaker 3: Because there's this monster in front of him and this
Speaker 3: weird shit's happening.
Speaker 4: What do you do with that? So his mind wasn't
Speaker 4: on everything this creature was doing. It was just happening.
Speaker 3: And to this day, he said, he still thinks that
Speaker 3: this thing was trying to communicate something. He asked me
Speaker 3: if I would go back there and check their I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna be there at some point, but
Speaker 3: I don't know a boy that it's gonna be hard
Speaker 3: enough to film in the woods back home. But I
Speaker 3: want to thank Edwin for sharing. He'll be back to
Speaker 3: Alaska next year doing some more fisheries work or canary work,
Speaker 3: whichever it may be. Edwin had a message for everyone,
Speaker 3: don't assume they're out to hurt you immediately. They could
Speaker 3: be trying to communicate with you and you just don't
Speaker 3: recognize their form of communication. So that's fair me personally,
Speaker 3: I'm biased, so I'll just leave that alone.
Speaker 4: But teach his own.
Speaker 3: He says he feels he really missed out on something
Speaker 3: that could have been groundbreaking because of what was going
Speaker 3: on and everything and them starting up the car and
Speaker 3: coming at him. One of his comments was, Dillingham's a
Speaker 3: hell of a place. I can't agree more. Dillingham is
Speaker 3: one hell of a place outside of the small town
Speaker 3: village that you get with the social ILKs in general.
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful place and it's definitely different. I wanted
Speaker 3: to share with you today. Is a small family and
Speaker 3: Dealingham just a few years back. We'll name him Keith
Speaker 3: and Danielle. Keith and Danielle have their two daughters and
Speaker 3: their son. Their oldest daughter at the time was twelve,
Speaker 3: the next daughter was like nine.
Speaker 4: And the little boy was five.
Speaker 3: So what they did was is that they had a
Speaker 3: subsistence site for king salmon on the Lusk River where
Speaker 3: they had they're sitting at side at they weren't getting
Speaker 3: king salmon that they wanted.
Speaker 4: They got a few.
Speaker 3: Keith it talk to a relative of his who had
Speaker 3: a setet site on the Wood River side. And if
Speaker 3: you look at the map, becomes in the Nushigak Bay
Speaker 3: goy Dillingham. Then the Nushigak branches off to your it
Speaker 3: would be the right and then the Wood River cuts
Speaker 3: up to Electing Gig.
Speaker 4: So his plan was to take the wife and family
Speaker 4: go get his king net.
Speaker 3: He brought his red gear for subsistence and basically it's
Speaker 3: just different shackle size for the smaller salmon gill net anyway,
Speaker 3: so they get out there, they pull his gear, they
Speaker 3: stack it up, and everyone uses a sign saying it's
Speaker 3: basically for fishing game and whoever else this is set
Speaker 3: net site for subsistence whatever with a number on it.
Speaker 3: So he grabs his sign, grabs his gear, and they
Speaker 3: go up to the Wood River. Now when they get
Speaker 3: to his friend's site, his friend's gear was out, and
Speaker 3: he agreed that he would pick the fish and stack
Speaker 3: the gear up on the bank, just temporarily take his
Speaker 3: sign down and put his up and so on. So
Speaker 3: he had it worked out. So he gets up to
Speaker 3: his buddy side or his relative site. Typically what we
Speaker 3: do is one end is achored out into the river
Speaker 3: or the water wherever it's at, and the other end is.
Speaker 4: Attached to the bank.
Speaker 3: And so what we'll do is we'll pull up with
Speaker 3: the bow of the skiff and pull the gear up
Speaker 3: on top and go through and pick the fish out.
Speaker 3: He used the net to pull yourselves towards shore or
Speaker 3: out or however you work it out, but typically to
Speaker 3: pick the fish right into the boat. So he goes through,
Speaker 3: he picks a few fish out and whatever, and they
Speaker 3: pull his gear and as he stacks the shackle and
Speaker 3: he takes the sign down, his twelve year old daughter says, Dad, Dad,
Speaker 3: that man is waving at us.
Speaker 4: So he's up on the bank, so he's looking around.
Speaker 4: He turns back. He's what man, and she goes, he's
Speaker 4: in the woods. It wasn't necessarily woods.
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of willows and alders at that point
Speaker 3: on the river hadn't got into the timbers quite yet,
Speaker 3: and so he goes, there's no one up here, sweetheart.
Speaker 4: And he continued doing what he was doing.
Speaker 3: So he shoves the sign in and he grabs the
Speaker 3: one lead line and anchors it end of the ground
Speaker 3: where his friend had an anchor, so he could toe
Speaker 3: his line out and drop it and be set. So
Speaker 3: he comes back down and he's unloading his red gear,
Speaker 3: his shackles, and he notices there's a good sized tear
Speaker 3: in one of them, so he asks for his mending twine.
Speaker 3: So he's sitting there and he's mending up this net
Speaker 3: this small hole, and as he's patching it up, his
Speaker 3: daughter and his wife say, hey, there's something in the willows.
Speaker 3: So he's a little frustrated because he's trying to work.
Speaker 3: He wants to get things set out before the next
Speaker 3: tide comes in and potentially fill up the net. So
Speaker 3: he goes over and he brought a shotgun for ducks
Speaker 3: or whatever he may come across, and he also had
Speaker 3: his four P forty four rifle in a case towards the.
Speaker 4: Back of the skiff for bear protection. So he just
Speaker 4: grabs a shotgun.
Speaker 3: He figured, I'll go up on the bank and see
Speaker 3: if I see anything and just make some noise with
Speaker 3: some bird shot in the air.
Speaker 4: So he gets up there, he looks around, he doesn't
Speaker 4: see nine.
Speaker 3: He just bam shoots one off, pumps the shotgun, puts
Speaker 3: it on safety, goes back, sets it into the skiff.
Speaker 3: That says it's scared off. It's scared off, and he
Speaker 3: heard nothing. He just sho any bear would have took
Speaker 3: off and whatever. So he goes back, he finishes minding
Speaker 3: the net. They get it all set up to go,
Speaker 3: and so what ends up happening is you take your
Speaker 3: bully line and an anchor and you have it off
Speaker 3: your bow, and whoever's operating the skiff will drag that
Speaker 3: net offshore, out into the water until it's nice and
Speaker 3: taunt and then you drop the anchor and let it
Speaker 3: set and then you got a nice set. So they're
Speaker 3: in the process of doing that. He has his wife
Speaker 3: operating the skiff. She's backing it up. She's following his
Speaker 3: commands with his hands or whatever. This way that way,
Speaker 3: and just as it's getting taunt and he's like a
Speaker 3: little more, and they just get it out of the
Speaker 3: way and he drops the anchor in the bully. They
Speaker 3: back away from it so it doesn't get caught up,
Speaker 3: and they're propeller or whatever.
Speaker 4: They go up just above it. They beach the skiff.
Speaker 3: They want to see if any fish hit the net,
Speaker 3: because the kids like to watch the salmon splashing the
Speaker 3: net and fight.
Speaker 4: So as they're sitting there. He kept getting the feeling
Speaker 4: that they were being watched.
Speaker 3: From where they set the net, the bank kind of
Speaker 3: went down lower to where they beached up, so the
Speaker 3: bank wasn't as high, and he had a better field
Speaker 3: of view of that immediate area because with the willows
Speaker 3: and stuff, man, it's really hard to You'll have all
Speaker 3: this grass right on the edge of the river bank,
Speaker 3: it'll be three four foot tall. Then you got the
Speaker 3: ten twelve foot willows there, so you don't have a
Speaker 3: whole lot of room to really see what's going on
Speaker 3: beyond that. But where they banked up, he tied off,
Speaker 3: and he kept getting the feeling like they're being watched,
Speaker 3: and so he goes to the back of this gift.
Speaker 4: He pulls out his Marlin four forty four and he
Speaker 4: loads up about three rounds.
Speaker 3: Racks went in tells his wife something feels off, and
Speaker 3: she said, I feel it too. His daughter kept trying
Speaker 3: to interrupt, and he kept cutting off, hey, don't interrupt,
Speaker 3: adults are talking. In his mind's it was, I need
Speaker 3: to discuss with my wife what to do if a
Speaker 3: bear comes, because that's what they were thinking. As they're
Speaker 3: discussing this. The daughter keeps interrupting, and so he gets upset.
Speaker 3: Keith goes, what are you interrupting us adults for? And
Speaker 3: she goes, Dad, that man is. So he looks around
Speaker 3: and he sees darkness in the willows. Duck down and
Speaker 3: he was like, what the hell? So he asked a
Speaker 3: daughter who was it? Because they know everybody who was it?
Speaker 3: Was it an elder from Elecni Gig, was it? Someone
Speaker 3: from Billingham?
Speaker 4: Who was it?
Speaker 3: She goes, I don't know. He was wearing a coat,
Speaker 3: he said, what kind of coat? She said, a fur coat.
Speaker 3: He stood up, he waved at me, he motioned for me,
Speaker 3: and then when you turn he ducked down and he goes, okay.
Speaker 3: He decides what he's going to do is get out
Speaker 3: of the skiff, walk along a little further up river,
Speaker 3: get up onto the river bank, and have the wife
Speaker 3: and the kids over here, hopefully get an eye on
Speaker 3: whatever's waving at his kid or whoever's waving at his daughter.
Speaker 3: And as soon as he said I'm going to walk
Speaker 3: up a little ways, immediately his wife, the two daughters
Speaker 3: and a little boy they oh, no, don't go.
Speaker 4: Because there was a feeling in the air. The air changed.
Speaker 3: He was like, just calm down, don't be We ain't
Speaker 3: scared of bears. What we got, we're protected. He had
Speaker 3: the four forty four Marl and big whopper of around.
Speaker 3: It's basically a forty four mag just a lot longer
Speaker 3: casing with a lot more behind it. So he wasn't
Speaker 3: concerned about the bears in that aspect. So he calmed them,
Speaker 3: said hey, it'll be okay. He gets up, goes ahead
Speaker 3: of his plan, gets up to where he figures it'd
Speaker 3: be a good vantage point. They're lucky the wind is
Speaker 3: coming towards them, so he wouldn't be winded. And he
Speaker 3: just took his hat and everything off, and he's just
Speaker 3: peeking up through the grass watching those willows where he
Speaker 3: saw the dark movement. Now he decides I'm going to
Speaker 3: since i'm over here. He didn't like smoking in front
Speaker 3: of his kids, so he lit up a cigarette since
Speaker 3: the wind was blowing into his face.
Speaker 4: He figured he'd be good and not get winded.
Speaker 3: So as he's lighting a cigarette and smoking, he notices
Speaker 3: dark movement, so he immediately stops what he's doing and
Speaker 3: starts looking. He sees he said it looked like something
Speaker 3: going like this in the brush, and he said he
Speaker 3: couldn't make it out because of how things were with
Speaker 3: the willows. It was silhouetted because the sun was rising
Speaker 3: from that direction. This is in the wee hours of
Speaker 3: the morning, just as the sun's coming up. And again
Speaker 3: at landed the midnight sun. At that time of year,
Speaker 3: it doesn't fully get dark, so there was plenty of
Speaker 3: light and that he could see just fine, but he
Speaker 3: just the way things were going down, he couldn't make
Speaker 3: out what this motion was because that's all he was
Speaker 3: seeing out of the willows, was like a single arm
Speaker 3: going like this, and it made no sense.
Speaker 4: And he hears his daughter start screaming.
Speaker 3: He sees the willows moving, but from his vantage point,
Speaker 3: his family's off here to his right, and he's looking.
Speaker 3: I guess the family would be off between the two
Speaker 3: and three o'clock position ish two thirtieth position, and his
Speaker 3: twelve o'clock was directly at this thing.
Speaker 4: So he's looking and he can see the movement, but
Speaker 4: he can't make.
Speaker 3: Out anything because again it's silhouetted, and so he decides, okay.
Speaker 4: He puts out a cigarette, puts it in his pocket.
Speaker 3: He grabs his rifle puts his hat on and he
Speaker 3: ducks down as cutbank a little bit. And so what
Speaker 3: he does is he ducks down below the bank line
Speaker 3: and shimmy's on over closer to his family to get
Speaker 3: a bitter look at what's going on and if he
Speaker 3: has to shoot, he's between his family and this bear
Speaker 3: at the time is what he was thinking, but acting
Speaker 3: strange bear. So he gets over there. Danielle is telling
Speaker 3: him it's looking at us, it's looking at us.
Speaker 4: It's a hairy man. It's a hairy man.
Speaker 3: And immediately he stands up and looks and sees this
Speaker 3: thing duck back into the brush, and immediately all bets
Speaker 3: are off.
Speaker 4: He realized, oh, it is a harry man. We gotta go.
Speaker 4: It's too close, it's showing too much interest in my kids.
Speaker 4: I gotta go. So he gets over to the skiff,
Speaker 4: he grabs.
Speaker 3: An anchor line. He's loading up the anchor and his
Speaker 3: wife is firing up the kicker. He pushes off and
Speaker 3: they back away and they loop out into the river
Speaker 3: a little further and drop the anchor because they wanted
Speaker 3: to watch this thing. So as they're sitting there, they
Speaker 3: anchored up, the anchor catches and they're just a little
Speaker 3: bit below where they set the net.
Speaker 4: They're looking and watching the willows.
Speaker 3: As they're doing that, they're talking to each other about
Speaker 3: what they saw, what exactly, who, what, when?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 3: His daughter kept it was waving at me and smiling.
Speaker 3: It kept waving and smiling, and he goes, what did
Speaker 3: it look like? And she said it looked like a
Speaker 3: man with the fur hat on, and all I could
Speaker 3: see it was his face, but his face looked really dirty.
Speaker 3: And he goes, dirty how and she goes, it was
Speaker 3: just dirty. It was dark brownish, it was dirt. They
Speaker 3: looked dirty, and she couldn't really articulate what.
Speaker 4: She was seeing. So they sit there for a while.
Speaker 3: He was a little shook up, so he ReLit his cigarette,
Speaker 3: and he hated doing that in front of his kids
Speaker 3: because he knew it was a bad influence, but he
Speaker 3: lit that cigarette anyway because he was a little shaky.
Speaker 3: Everyone in the skiff really didn't want to be anchored there,
Speaker 3: but they were trying to get a better view of
Speaker 3: what they're dealing with. They just set this net, so regardless,
Speaker 3: they're going to have to deal with it in one
Speaker 3: way or another.
Speaker 4: When they get their gear and reset his cousin's gear.
Speaker 3: And so as he's contemplating this, he sees the silhouette
Speaker 3: kind of move, and every once in a while it
Speaker 3: would stand up a little taller.
Speaker 4: They were above the McClung river.
Speaker 3: This thing appeared to be peeking back at them every
Speaker 3: so often and making it way towards the McClung. So,
Speaker 3: as they're discussing, okay, it's moved away, he decides, right
Speaker 3: then and there screw this set net site.
Speaker 4: I don't want to deal with this.
Speaker 3: So they hold the anchor, they go right back up
Speaker 3: on shore, they pull his gear, they change out the signs,
Speaker 3: they reset his friend's gear, and he said, as it
Speaker 3: got done doing that, and they just got his cousin's gear,
Speaker 3: retaunt and anchor and Blewie dropped, he said, something caught
Speaker 3: his eye off his right hand side, because they were
Speaker 3: going upriver, and they were facing upriver with the bow
Speaker 3: of the skiff as he was working this thing. So
Speaker 3: he looks over and he sees it standing up almost
Speaker 3: where his daughter first saw it. It's motioning for them.
Speaker 3: It keeps motioning for them like this, and then it
Speaker 3: would look up, look around, and then do it again.
Speaker 3: And motion for them, and he said its hands were huge.
Speaker 3: He said it had to be over eight foot tall.
Speaker 3: But what caught him, instruck him was how wide it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 4: right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: He said, it almost at that distance looked as wide
Speaker 3: as it was tall. But he knew it was just
Speaker 3: an optical illusion type of thing. But he said it
Speaker 3: was very wide, very stocky, but big, and so they're
Speaker 3: freaked out. Luckily, his cousin's gear was set, all his
Speaker 3: stuff was in the skiff.
Speaker 4: He dropped it. They looked at a brief moment and
Speaker 4: got on out of there. Yeah. Again, none of these
Speaker 4: experiences are unique.
Speaker 3: I know there's a little over one hundred experiences shared
Speaker 3: with you guys thus far, but understand that is a
Speaker 3: drop in the bucket. There's way more than that just
Speaker 3: from the Bristol Bay area, not counting the interior by Fairbanks,
Speaker 3: the Koyakuk River, name a river, the Russian River, the
Speaker 3: Kenai River. These things are happening, not on a daily basis.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to lay it out.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Everywhere he turned, there's a Harry man
Speaker 4: out to get you. That's not it. Just be aware
Speaker 4: this encounter I want to share with you. This particular guy,
Speaker 4: he no longer lives at this place, which is just
Speaker 4: north of Willow a little ways.
Speaker 3: His property is not far from the Sussitina River. His
Speaker 3: experience was last fall. His dog had been missing for
Speaker 3: about a week, almost two weeks, and this particular dog
Speaker 3: was really old. It was about sixteen seventeen years old,
Speaker 3: and he assumed the dog went off to die, which
Speaker 3: dogs would do, that kind of thing, same with cats.
Speaker 3: He decides he sees this path across the river there
Speaker 3: and he wants to go check it out. So he goes,
Speaker 3: and he finds a shallow spot and he gets across,
Speaker 3: and then he backstracks to this trail and he starts
Speaker 3: going down it. Off to his right, he's going through
Speaker 3: black spruce and some cottonwoods and some fairly young birch trees.
Speaker 3: Someone had gone through there sometime before and knocked down
Speaker 3: a bunch of the old growth birch, probably for firewood.
Speaker 4: From the stumps that had small little thing is grown
Speaker 4: out of it.
Speaker 3: So he's going through there and he's checking it out,
Speaker 3: and something he feels like he's being watched. He really
Speaker 3: he can't put his finger on it. So as he's
Speaker 3: going through these trees, very similar to the what's behind
Speaker 3: me here. We got some cottonwoods birching, some spruce.
Speaker 4: Back over there. So basically the same type of terrain
Speaker 4: behind me.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: So as he's going along and he's going down this
Speaker 3: path it is fairly open, but off to his right
Speaker 3: is where the alders. They get thicker and they're blushed up.
Speaker 3: And as he's going along and there's some movement, he
Speaker 3: hears over there and he's, hah, I want if to
Speaker 3: ask my dog. Of course, for almost seventeen years, that's
Speaker 3: unconditional love. So of course he's going to head over
Speaker 3: to check it out.
Speaker 4: As he's walking over and it's approximately thirty yards from
Speaker 4: his position, he felt no.
Speaker 3: Danger, had no inklining, just anything bad or out of
Speaker 3: the ordinary. He's continuing over there and the bushes has
Speaker 3: really come alive, and then he hears a real guttural
Speaker 3: growl and he goes, oh, that's not my dog. I
Speaker 3: hope it's not a bear chewing on my dog. I
Speaker 3: don't want to see that. He backs out, he's smart
Speaker 3: about it. He backs away. He wasn't armed. He just
Speaker 3: went to go check out a trail not far from
Speaker 3: his property.
Speaker 4: No harm, no foul.
Speaker 3: He gets back to it just as the tree is
Speaker 3: sticking up right close to the river bank. He was
Speaker 3: getting back to that area when he noticed something was
Speaker 3: being thrown at him. He kept hearing things land in
Speaker 3: the shrubs beside him, but he couldn't make anything out.
Speaker 3: So he turned around and he's trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what the hell, and this piece of a foot leg
Speaker 3: lands almost at his feet, just into some bushes, and
Speaker 3: then it flopped on the trail by him. Thought nothing
Speaker 3: of it at first. He's kind of looking at it,
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what it is. And this particular
Speaker 3: dog that had been missing.
Speaker 4: Was all white except for some black socks basically on
Speaker 4: his feet, and it was one of those legs.
Speaker 3: I'm a dog lover man, cats are cute. I got
Speaker 3: no use for him, but I've always loved dogs. Grew
Speaker 3: up with a sled dog team. So he was in shock,
Speaker 3: standing there staring because he's wrecking. That's a piece of
Speaker 3: my dog. So he looks back in the direction of
Speaker 3: the bushes. He sees movement back behind there, but it
Speaker 3: looks like a bear, because it looked like to be
Speaker 3: on all fours, pacing back and forth through the brush.
Speaker 4: But the growling going on was not like that of
Speaker 4: a bear.
Speaker 3: It was too long, too deep, too different, way too
Speaker 3: different than what you would typically expect. So as he's
Speaker 3: caught the plating, still in shock, like he's still trying
Speaker 3: to wrap his mind around about his dog's.
Speaker 4: Leg at his feet.
Speaker 3: I've seen some shit, but to have a piece of
Speaker 3: your loved one's corpse chucked at you, and.
Speaker 4: Who knows what it was a warning, knew it was
Speaker 4: his dog. I have no clue. It's all speculation.
Speaker 3: So he snaps himself out of it because all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, the movement turns into all out movement towards him,
Speaker 3: just out of.
Speaker 4: You in those shrubs. So he's kind of shocked, and
Speaker 4: he went to start backing up, and then he seen
Speaker 4: this thing transition from fours up to two's just out
Speaker 4: of you with the tree line, and he was perplexed,
Speaker 4: still in shock, turned to run, but just was like
Speaker 4: contemplating taking the piece of his dog with him to
Speaker 4: bury it or something. He was in shock.
Speaker 3: I could imagine in that moment what it would be
Speaker 3: like all of a sudden, a piece of your loved
Speaker 3: ones at your feet.
Speaker 4: I digress.
Speaker 3: As he's still in shock, this thing moves around and
Speaker 3: is coming back on his back trail. Now he's not
Speaker 3: that far. He's made it maybe eighty yards down this
Speaker 3: path from the river bank, so he's not that far.
Speaker 3: He just cleared the trees that line the river and
Speaker 3: then it opens up into some marsh and tundra areas
Speaker 3: and whatnot, and a bumping muskeg back in there. So
Speaker 3: he wasn't far. But this thing circled around. Now as
Speaker 3: it's circling around, it dawns on him. I need to
Speaker 3: get out of here because it's circling up on me.
Speaker 3: So he leaves the dog's leg, turns and cuts down
Speaker 3: the trail and he's hauling ass at this point, and
Speaker 3: he can hear this big thing moving through the trees,
Speaker 3: not paralleling him, but like moving to cut off his
Speaker 3: forward progression. So he was a highly motivated track star
Speaker 3: that day. So he continues running. He gets to the
Speaker 3: river's edge where he's at is right in front of
Speaker 3: a deep hole. But it's pretty much shallow outside of
Speaker 3: this deep hole, so he backs up about ten feet
Speaker 3: and this noise had stopped. So he looks over to
Speaker 3: his left and he sees this movement behind a tree.
Speaker 3: It was actually a group of trees. He saw a movement,
Speaker 3: something peeking out, something going back.
Speaker 4: Now he didn't know what to do.
Speaker 3: He was shocked because he knew it was on two
Speaker 3: feet shaped, humanoid, but massive.
Speaker 4: So this thing wasn't hiding.
Speaker 3: It was like the deer putting its head behind the tree.
Speaker 3: You could still see its body. That's what he said.
Speaker 3: It reminded him of because it wasn't putting eyes on him. Somehow,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be able to see this big, massive things.
Speaker 3: So he gets stuck staring at this thing, and it's
Speaker 3: trying to contemplate what do I do. I could imagine
Speaker 3: at this point he had resolved himself that he's going
Speaker 3: to jump into the river to get the hell out
Speaker 3: of Dodge. I can't say as I wouldn't. I would
Speaker 3: be all over jumping and there. I don't even think
Speaker 3: i'd still be standing at that particular point. However, I
Speaker 3: wasn't there. No judgment, No judgment, John, I'll get it.
Speaker 3: It's shocking when you're accosted by something like this and
Speaker 3: you have no reference point. You're thinking it's a bear
Speaker 3: or something like that, and then it's just totally mind
Speaker 3: altering for sure. So he's contemplating everything going on. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: this thing is making these movements, and he takes his
Speaker 3: gaze off it just for a moment to check the
Speaker 3: depth of the water again, contemplating how cold it's going
Speaker 3: to be, because it had stopped, so all this aggression
Speaker 3: had stopped, but it was still right there. So he
Speaker 3: glances away, pondering how far he'd have to jump, or
Speaker 3: if he's going to dive, just things of this nature.
Speaker 3: And then he looks back and there's nothing there, so
Speaker 3: he calmed down, right, He's okay, it's gone. And then
Speaker 3: he started thinking, is my mind playing tricks on me?
Speaker 3: Because he felt he should have been able to hear
Speaker 3: it leave or watch it leave because it made noise
Speaker 3: as it was coming. Then all of a sudden, just
Speaker 3: poof gone. So he starts really looking like intently, and
Speaker 3: he notices it slipping from trees to trees. As he's
Speaker 3: turning this way. He notices out of the corner of
Speaker 3: his eye the movement. He catches on to what's going
Speaker 3: on and starts adjusting He's turning his head but looking
Speaker 3: out the side of his eye, and he sees this
Speaker 3: thing moving back along, but it's circling back to where
Speaker 3: he was just at with the dog leg. He decides,
Speaker 3: you know what, the dog's gone. I'm not gonna try
Speaker 3: to retrieve this carcass. I don't know if it's eating it,
Speaker 3: I don't know. He had already resolved that the dog
Speaker 3: was dead anyway, so he was just gonna leave it
Speaker 3: at that. Hey, fair enough, I get it. Move on
Speaker 3: that type of thing. So he's struggling with accepting what
Speaker 3: he's seeing. He's staring at his feet and he can
Speaker 3: hear noises going on around him, but he's in this
Speaker 3: surreal shock of what's going on? Why is this going
Speaker 3: on here? So he snaps out of it. He catches himself. Now,
Speaker 3: when I was talking to him about it, he was
Speaker 3: taking long pauses and I would have to sow what
Speaker 3: happened next.
Speaker 4: I sorry to interrupt, but he was in deep thought.
Speaker 3: I think what it was is he was envisioning at
Speaker 3: that point the thing ripping his dog apart, but he
Speaker 3: had no clue if that's exactly what happened or not.
Speaker 3: Speculation anyway, he turns around and he decides he's not
Speaker 3: going to jump into the river. He's going to go
Speaker 3: back up river a little ways and cross across these
Speaker 3: rocks to where it because this thing wasn't actively being
Speaker 3: aggressive at that point. It was just slipping around like
Speaker 3: a phantom. It just so happened. It was going in
Speaker 3: the direction real slowly. It's not like it was trying
Speaker 3: to cut him off. But he realized, I better get
Speaker 3: moving on this now while I can, and rightfully so
Speaker 3: and smartly, he started going down the trail and he
Speaker 3: had is this es gate plan. He's going to go
Speaker 3: across this is sitting if he has to this particular
Speaker 3: point where he has to cross.
Speaker 4: It's not the easiest place to cross.
Speaker 3: It's not a necessarily a small river, but this particular
Speaker 3: point he could navigate the way he got across relatively
Speaker 3: easy with the swiftness.
Speaker 4: Of the water or whatever. He didn't want to have
Speaker 4: to swim.
Speaker 3: Now, I know I'm repeating this, but he repeated it
Speaker 3: to me, so I'm telling you as how he conveyed
Speaker 3: it to me, I'm conveying it to you. So he's
Speaker 3: continuing down the trail and the movement he hears starting
Speaker 3: behind him. It's no longer off to his right hand
Speaker 3: side now the movement's behind him, and as he's going
Speaker 3: along the trail, he's trying not to look. He's really
Speaker 3: he's lost mentally, he's trying to put all these pieces
Speaker 3: together that don't fit. And because he'd been there lifelong,
Speaker 3: never had a peaking, never had anything go missing, nothing
Speaker 3: no longer lives there now. So he's going along and
Speaker 3: he's contemplating all these things, and he hears the noises
Speaker 3: behind him, but he doesn't really want to look, but
Speaker 3: he's very cognizant of the fact that it's not horribly
Speaker 3: far behind him and it can move silently. He's getting
Speaker 3: up to this little crossing point, which is a cluster
Speaker 3: of rocks, shallow area, some more rocks, a little deeper area,
Speaker 3: and then some more rocks to get across, so it's
Speaker 3: not just a crossing a creek.
Speaker 4: Just understand that.
Speaker 3: Now, as he's getting up, there's another trail that comes
Speaker 3: from where people come from a different road and come
Speaker 3: down there to do the fishing from the bank. Right,
Speaker 3: So as these two trails are merging, it's damn near
Speaker 3: right at that point where he's going to cross back across. Now,
Speaker 3: as he's going along, he hears the noise behind him,
Speaker 3: but off to his right hand side. He notices movement
Speaker 3: going off back to his right hand side, and he's concerned,
Speaker 3: and he turns and looks, and it looks like his
Speaker 3: neighbor's dog, and he's I wonder why the neighbor's dog
Speaker 3: is over here. So he chalks it up neighbors problem.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it doesn't happen his dog. What I'm dealing with
Speaker 3: on mind. So he's getting onto the rocks.
Speaker 4: And go back across, and just as he is, here's
Speaker 4: splashing rocks a little bigger than a softball. We're being
Speaker 4: chucked just at points where he would have to where
Speaker 4: he was going to be crossing. He didn't know what
Speaker 4: to make of it. I don't know what to make
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: Usually they throw rocks and gets you out of there,
Speaker 3: scary or something. So he just starts making his way.
Speaker 4: He does this thing.
Speaker 3: He gets across, and the trail that cuts back towards
Speaker 3: his property is a lot narrower than the one on
Speaker 3: the other side where people come from a different road
Speaker 3: and go down there and fish. He's going along the
Speaker 3: narrow road, he notices a familiar patch of fur from
Speaker 3: his dog that was missing. What he surmises is that
Speaker 3: it threw it straight because where this particular piece of
Speaker 3: the dog was directly straight across the river from where.
Speaker 4: He entered the trail and where the dog leg was
Speaker 4: further up. So he's assuming this thing just flung it
Speaker 4: across the river so he would see it on his
Speaker 4: way back to his property. He didn't give exact specifics
Speaker 4: on where he exactly was, but it's just north to me.
Speaker 4: Just that direction is where this went down.
Speaker 3: The Susitna rivers back over here, it wraps, it goes
Speaker 3: all the way, it goes away. These things I struggle with,
Speaker 3: are they our friends? Not here in Alaska. I have
Speaker 3: not had a single email, a single conversation with anyone
Speaker 3: to where it was a joyous, calm, peaceful thing. It's
Speaker 3: always some form of aggression or predatory behavior. Some of
Speaker 3: these shares. They're very concerning as far as safety goes.
Speaker 3: It makes you wonder why certain things are being held back.
Speaker 3: A lot of it I think has to do with
Speaker 3: so many.
Speaker 4: People not speaking on their experience. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: people I've had at least thirty people just want to
Speaker 4: tell me. So there are little pinpoints on a map,
Speaker 4: but they didn't want to share it. They didn't want
Speaker 4: me to speak on it. When there's at least thirty
Speaker 4: of those, which I understand, respect your privacy. You won't
Speaker 4: hear me talk about what happened to you.
Speaker 3: Hear you never will if you have to be anonymous
Speaker 3: and just want to share so I can put a
Speaker 3: pin on a map.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 3: All I ask is, if you do share in that way,
Speaker 3: at least let me know the nature of it, screaming
Speaker 3: howling off in the distance, saw it and running whatever
Speaker 3: it may be, just so I can put a pin
Speaker 3: in the general area. Until then, thanks for joining me,
Speaker 3: and we'll see on the next one. They say, you.
Speaker 4: Don't gotta go, but you can't stay.
Speaker 2: Science still step side. I'm trying this chart, that chart everything.
Speaker 2: Can you ride right back? Joy for me? Joy staying
Speaker 2: right you call it right away and still still stay
Speaker 2: stay us to do dossssssssssst used these things