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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your putting. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Something just kids, my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the or over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 1>over the fence and me was dead once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, like. I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Say, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>It was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was staying enough. I'm out here looking through the

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<v Speaker 1>window now and I don't see anything. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go outside. Jesus, quiet you better or hello? Hit

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<v Speaker 1>the boddy out here? What went on out there? I

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<v Speaker 1>thought of a bit of about sixty nine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know him out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, Oh, Readings is Fred and Alaska.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for joining me.

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<v Speaker 3>What I wanted to share with you today comes from Edwin.

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin had originally come up about a decade ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was working a cannery, and then he worked a

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<v Speaker 3>fishing boat. He worked his way around in the industry.

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<v Speaker 3>He ended up in my neck of the woods back

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<v Speaker 3>over in Dillingham. He was working for Peter Pan and Seafoods.

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<v Speaker 3>This was approximately four years ago, the year before the

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<v Speaker 3>COVID crap, So four or five years ago. Edwin along

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<v Speaker 3>with a couple of Filipino canry workers that he worked with.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them had a car that he was borrowing

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<v Speaker 3>from another friend or what have you. So they decided

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna take a trip out and see what you

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<v Speaker 3>know Alaska is about. So even though Edwin had been

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<v Speaker 3>around the industry, he was always out in the water

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<v Speaker 3>or stuck in a canary. So having the tunity to

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<v Speaker 3>go somewhere like Snake Lake, they were all over it.

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<v Speaker 3>So from what Edwin said, which there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a language barrier, he was from Poland. His real

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<v Speaker 3>name isn't Edwin. I can't pronounce it. It's above my

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<v Speaker 3>pay grade. So what ends up happening to him and

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<v Speaker 3>his Filipino friends. They jet out up to Snake Lake Road.

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<v Speaker 3>They passed China Cap he said, they stopped at those

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<v Speaker 3>gravel pits. They're on the right hand side as you're

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<v Speaker 3>going back up in there, he said. When they got

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<v Speaker 3>up on the mountain, they stopped to overlook the vast

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<v Speaker 3>valley and just the beauty of it. And he said

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<v Speaker 3>one of the Filipino guys he had a pistol. So

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<v Speaker 3>what they decided they were going to do is try

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<v Speaker 3>to shoot a pond is probably two miles away. They

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<v Speaker 3>were just dicking around with a pistol and busting shots,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course they're not hitting anything because it just

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<v Speaker 3>sheer distance.

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<v Speaker 4>They weren't going to hit nothing. But after they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Done dumping some mags, Edwin said that they heard a

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<v Speaker 3>weird shrill, like a child screaming. It gives me the chills,

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<v Speaker 3>is thinking about behind them, up above them. He said

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't sure how far, but it sounded real close

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<v Speaker 3>because it sounded like the kid was standing behind them,

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<v Speaker 3>shrieking squeal kind of a It shocked all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>They turned around. They were like, oh, we didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know kid was there. They thought they startled a kid

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<v Speaker 3>by firing, so they were turning around to say sorry

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing was there. Edwin said.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the Filipino guys start pointing up in the

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<v Speaker 3>woods and started saying something in his home tongue, and

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<v Speaker 3>he couldn't make up what he say he was telling

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<v Speaker 3>him because the guy was getting real worked up, and

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<v Speaker 3>finally Edwin said he calmed him down enough to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out he was saying, they're the monster up there, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They were thinking, oh, bear, Oh, this monster is a bear.

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin thought it would be a good idea if he

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<v Speaker 3>walked up a little ways to flesh it out, because

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<v Speaker 3>the other guy didn't see it and wanted to see

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<v Speaker 3>the bear. One guy that initially saw this thing was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go, Let's get in the Carlos go. Because he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't explaining to them what had happened. Edwin, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 3>he took the pistol, reloaded it, figured, Okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>scare the bear out. My buddy will get a look

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<v Speaker 3>at it, we'll get out of here. He wasn't scared

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<v Speaker 3>of bears, teaches on. I'm not scared of bears. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>just rather be prepared for him with something better than

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<v Speaker 3>a nine milimeters pistol.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, teaches on.

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<v Speaker 3>So he goes up in there and he's got the

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<v Speaker 3>pistol and he's going to do all the alders and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff in the willows, and he's not making any headway. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that he got in there and it was

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<v Speaker 3>a tangle. It was just try to push through like

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<v Speaker 3>a humongous, very strong spider web, and so he backed out,

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<v Speaker 3>tried to go up a little further and try to

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<v Speaker 3>make a way through one of the game trails, but

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<v Speaker 3>he would ended up down on his knees and was like,

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<v Speaker 3>screw this. He felt very vulnerable, so he backs up.

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<v Speaker 3>He comes back down the hill and his friends are

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<v Speaker 3>in the car. The one guy was started blaring on

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<v Speaker 3>the horn because they didn't see him come down to

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<v Speaker 3>the backside of the car, and he banged on the

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<v Speaker 3>trunk to get him to stop honking the horn, and

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<v Speaker 3>they turn around and startled, and it was shocked, and

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<v Speaker 3>He's like they were yelling, get in I'm not laughing

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<v Speaker 3>at the guy. I'm just mentally picturing these two freaked

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<v Speaker 3>out dudes in the car saying get the hell in here,

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<v Speaker 3>and Edwin's oblivi to what they're doing. He figured, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they must saw the bear. So he's not actually listening

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<v Speaker 3>to these guys, which he later regrets. He walks in

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<v Speaker 3>front of the car a little ways and is looking

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<v Speaker 3>up the hill. What he didn't realize is this thing

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<v Speaker 3>had come down the hill, crossed in front of these

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<v Speaker 3>two guys within twenty five feet and just dropped barely

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<v Speaker 3>down off this side of the road. So he's looking

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<v Speaker 3>up and he's basically walking up and turning his back

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<v Speaker 3>at the very spot where this thing just went down

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<v Speaker 3>over their rise right, and so horn blaring again, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's holding the pistol still, and he's looking back. He's

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<v Speaker 3>telling him to stop. He's trying to get a look,

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<v Speaker 3>and he wants to see this bear, and he figured

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<v Speaker 3>it had to be big if they're scared, and for

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<v Speaker 3>whatever reason edwin it didn't FaZe him. For whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 3>he still doesn't understand it. So he walks a little

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<v Speaker 3>further to see if there's a trail up better than

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<v Speaker 3>the one he had just tried. And again he freely

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<v Speaker 3>admits he was making one mistake after another. So he

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<v Speaker 3>sees the spot and then he notices where there's a footstep,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he notices he looks down, he sees another footstep,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he's like, oh, and he looks at it

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<v Speaker 3>and he looks like a big human footprint. And as

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<v Speaker 3>he's looking down at it, that shrieked, shrill, childlike screen

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<v Speaker 3>came from right behind him. It startled the crap out

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<v Speaker 3>him so much he dropped the gun out of just shock.

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<v Speaker 3>Dropped gun, turns around and only sees just the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the head and the eyes from about right here,

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<v Speaker 3>just off the road down going down, because it's the

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<v Speaker 3>spot they were at, was just before it dropped into

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<v Speaker 3>the sheer drop offs, a little further up on Snake

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<v Speaker 3>Lake Road. And so this thing is down looking up

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<v Speaker 3>at him, and he's looking across at it, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>maybe fifteen feet away.

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<v Speaker 4>He said.

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<v Speaker 3>The top of the head looked very round, and the

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<v Speaker 3>eyes looked almost too small for its head, but in context,

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<v Speaker 3>the head was huge and the eyes were beady and

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<v Speaker 3>pitch black. He saw it blank, and he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out what the hell he's seeing because it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a bear, and it's still making these weird but cooling

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<v Speaker 3>noise and the different types of sounds he ain't never

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<v Speaker 3>heard before. It didn't relate to any animal he could

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<v Speaker 3>pick out, just strange whistles and all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin said, as he's staring, horn starts blaring again, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what snapped him out of his staring, and he

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<v Speaker 3>looks over is they're literally crawling out of their skin

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get Edwin get the hell back in that car.

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin reaches down and as soon as he's grabbing the pistol,

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<v Speaker 3>he feels dump and this thing is less than four

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<v Speaker 3>feet away, because when he looks back, he sees it

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<v Speaker 3>and he looks up. Edwin is six foot two, he

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<v Speaker 3>said he had to look up at it, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>guessing it had to have been between ten and eleven

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<v Speaker 3>foot tall. He said the head was very big and round,

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<v Speaker 3>the jaw was very wide set, black hair, very greasy,

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<v Speaker 3>almost pitch black skin, but it looked great because of

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<v Speaker 3>the greasy kind of complexion to it. Beat the eyes,

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<v Speaker 3>he couldn't make out any ears, and he's in a

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<v Speaker 3>compromised position. He's bent over to grab this pistol. The

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<v Speaker 3>Filipinos in the car lost, they have lost it. They

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<v Speaker 3>are both in the back seat, hunkered down low. They

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<v Speaker 3>want no parts of this. Right the horn blaring had stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin said that part of him wanted to grab the

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<v Speaker 3>pistol and tell it to get back, and the other

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<v Speaker 3>part of him, he sensed that he was in serious

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<v Speaker 3>danger if he did so. He just turned around and

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<v Speaker 3>faced it, not looking in his eye. He was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to examine it. He said the torso was abnormally longer

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<v Speaker 3>than the legs. It seemed like the legs didn't match

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<v Speaker 3>what should be there for torso. The black hair and

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<v Speaker 3>everything obscured everything. He had twigs and stuff in the hair,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said the smell was putrid, like dead meat

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<v Speaker 3>with a heavy body odor and urine smell, very heavy,

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<v Speaker 3>he says, very pungent. He said the clothes he was wearing.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't touch him anything, but he was about four

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<v Speaker 3>feet away. The clothes he was wearing stunk like that

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<v Speaker 3>even after washing, so it had to been pretty futrid

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<v Speaker 3>for that kind of a holdover as far as the smell,

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<v Speaker 3>so he doesn't know what to do. He's standing there

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<v Speaker 3>and he's not wanting to make eye contact, but the

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<v Speaker 3>thing isn't moving. It's breathing heavy.

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<v Speaker 4>He said.

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<v Speaker 3>He was making a gurgling sound as it breathed. It

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<v Speaker 3>really struck him to his core. He said that he

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<v Speaker 3>was having an odd out of body experience, but all

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<v Speaker 3>he could see in his out of body experience was

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<v Speaker 3>looking down over his shoulders, basically just above himself. Still

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't looking to sing in the eye, which is what

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<v Speaker 3>do you do with that? He said, he was so scared.

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<v Speaker 4>He felt like he was having heart palpitations or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>He thought he's going to have a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 3>He was healthy, young guy, mid thirties, strong, active, worked

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<v Speaker 3>hard his whole life, so he never had a heart problem.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was so panic stricken and worked up. And

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<v Speaker 3>he said, as he's standing there, he said no. He

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<v Speaker 3>screamed no, and it startled, this creature, and it took

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<v Speaker 3>a half step back, turned and walked about ten feet away,

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<v Speaker 3>and then turned back around and squatted down off the

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<v Speaker 3>side of the road. When it came up, he initially

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<v Speaker 3>turned towards it and then his out of body thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then as he starts yelling no, he's turning himself,

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<v Speaker 3>and this thing turned and walked over into his field

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<v Speaker 3>of view, turned and squatted down and was looking right

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<v Speaker 3>back at him. He said it was very inquisitive looking.

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<v Speaker 3>And then at that point, because it was further away,

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<v Speaker 3>the thing just looked at him. Was just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>to okay, what now. This is a feeling he got.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Edwin said, as soon as he felt confident holding

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<v Speaker 3>dropped the guy. He said, he doesn't know what came

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<v Speaker 3>he bent down and sat Indian style and was looking

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<v Speaker 3>back at this thing that was squatted down like fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>taking in its size because once he sat Indian style

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<v Speaker 3>and this thing was squatted down, he could see its girth,

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<v Speaker 3>its mass, and even though it seemed skinny, when it

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<v Speaker 3>ripple everything. He said, it's hand, the thumb was offset

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<v Speaker 3>further this way. And this thing started not pawing at

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<v Speaker 3>the ground but reaching on the ground and doing something right.

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<v Speaker 3>And he couldn't make out what it was doing, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was doing something specific to it. He couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 3>if it was trying to write something on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>He couldn't tell if it was just like we doodle

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<v Speaker 3>on paper or something. He couldn't figure it out. Because

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<v Speaker 3>this thing stopped paying attention to him and was doing

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<v Speaker 3>that thing on the ground, and he said, as it

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<v Speaker 3>the hell. And then that's when he snapped out of

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<v Speaker 3>it again because his Filipino friends in the car. The

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<v Speaker 3>and the horn in unison because Edwin turned around and

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<v Speaker 3>the cars coming at him right so he didn't watch

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<v Speaker 3>this thing. He didn't watch the creature, but he turned

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<v Speaker 3>around and basically eased up onto the hood as his

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<v Speaker 3>friends came at him, and then as soon as he

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<v Speaker 3>was on the hood, they gunned it. And this thing

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<v Speaker 3>is as he looked back, he could already see it

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<v Speaker 3>going over the edge of the road and dropping down

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<v Speaker 3>off the side. They went down a little ways and

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin was banging him up because he was sliding off.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't going to last much longer. They stop, He

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<v Speaker 3>dropped the gun. They're backing up. They're doing a twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five point turnaround, which on that road is just absurd.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're curious, what kind of car is an old

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<v Speaker 3>Chevrolet Chavette little ford or he said it was an

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<v Speaker 3>early eighties model or something like that, eighty two or

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three. But anyway, so he runs back and grabs

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<v Speaker 3>the pistol. The pistol had been run over. It wasn't compromise,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Broke, say, but it was a bit out of operation.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he's got it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's trying to work the action and when he jumped

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<v Speaker 3>up on the hood, they end up running over the pistol.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what that did was packed a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>dirt in between the slide and the frame, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of extra friction. And so finally he

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<v Speaker 3>gets it, pops the round out of it, and took

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<v Speaker 3>the magazine out. The bottom plate of the magazine was

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<v Speaker 3>torn off a little bit, but it was still functional,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's working the slide to get the dirt out

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<v Speaker 3>of it and stuff. Puts the magazine back in, and

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<v Speaker 3>as he goes to racket, the base plate of the

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<v Speaker 3>mag let go and all of it just fell out

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom. So he had one round in this nine millimeter.

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<v Speaker 3>His friends are behind him still doing this twenty point

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<v Speaker 3>turnaround right and they're yelling out the window out of

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of curse words and idiot, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>doing all this kind of stuff? And so he said,

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<v Speaker 3>as he's standing there just trying to take in everything

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<v Speaker 3>that just happened, because he said it was so surreal.

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<v Speaker 3>He could not believe that this was actually happening. And

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<v Speaker 3>he said, as he was working the action, because at

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<v Speaker 3>this point it was just like a nervous tick, He's

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<v Speaker 3>just working hell out of that action. As he's doing so,

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<v Speaker 3>he had emptied the round. The round was on the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>the other bullets were on the ground, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>just basically in shock working this action.

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<v Speaker 4>And I asked him, I was like, how long were

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<v Speaker 4>you like that? What drew you out of it? Did

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<v Speaker 4>they come back up in the car?

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<v Speaker 3>So he goes, no, what had happened is as he's

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<v Speaker 3>facing off that edge basically where he initially sought, just

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<v Speaker 3>its head and its eyes, he was basically at the

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<v Speaker 3>same spot, maybe a little further away, and he's just

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<v Speaker 3>working that action. And as he's doing so, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>this thing was right back almost at the same spot,

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<v Speaker 3>looking at him from the same kind of point of view, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he froze, And as he froze, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>he felt the bumper of the car bump into his

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<v Speaker 3>leg and that's what snapped him out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And the guys are looking at when it was get in.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy on the passenger side, he crawled into the

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<v Speaker 3>back and he was pointing off the edge, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course Edwin was still looking at this thing, so he understood.

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<v Speaker 3>He jumps in, and as they take off back down

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<v Speaker 3>the road, Edwin's trying to look back and get a glance.

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<v Speaker 3>This thing came back up onto the road and then

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<v Speaker 3>went right up the mountain, just right on up.

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<v Speaker 4>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>be right back after these messages, he said.

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<v Speaker 3>The initial alders and willis he tried to crawl through

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<v Speaker 3>were a maze of holy shit trying to get through there.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, this thing just went like it was nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>just right on up the mountain and disappeared out of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of the vantage point on the road and the

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<v Speaker 3>turns and stuff, they ended up getting a flat tire

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<v Speaker 3>because once they got back down by the gravel pit area,

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<v Speaker 3>the guy driving got a little squirrely and the old

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<v Speaker 3>tires on there once it kicked sideways, that popped one

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<v Speaker 3>of the rear tires. They did not care, not even

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. They continued on down with the flat tire,

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<v Speaker 3>and all they got to China Cap, which we called

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<v Speaker 3>um up the mountain, which and I'll leave that alone anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So they get down to China Cap only because it's

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<v Speaker 3>shaped like an old Chinese type style hat. So when

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<v Speaker 3>they get there, they stop and they're taking a breather,

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<v Speaker 3>and they start talking to each other, what the hell,

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<v Speaker 3>why were you doing that? And Edwin didn't have an answer.

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<v Speaker 3>But he doesn't know why he was possessed to not flee.

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<v Speaker 3>He said it was the weirdest thing. He said, it

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<v Speaker 3>almost felt like this thing was drawing him in to

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<v Speaker 3>its curiosity, not Edwin's, and asked him, can you flesh

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<v Speaker 3>that out a little bit? Can you explain that a

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<v Speaker 3>little better? And he didn't have an explanation. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>he just had the feeling that this thing was drawing

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<v Speaker 3>him into this thing's curiosity. When it went and sat

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<v Speaker 3>squatted down, he said, he had the strangest feeling like

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<v Speaker 3>it was trying to tell him something. But he's freaked out.

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<v Speaker 3>He's worried about pistol grabbing the gun. All the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is happening. He was expecting it to be a bear,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it was just a conundrum. And he said,

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<v Speaker 3>but to this day, four or five years later, to

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<v Speaker 3>this day, he feels like this thing was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>communicate something to him on the ground, right, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>the way it was very It wasn't random just swirling

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<v Speaker 3>around of the hand. It was like it was doing

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<v Speaker 3>something with its hand. Whether it was writing with its

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<v Speaker 3>hand or trying to draw something.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's this monster in front of him and this

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<v Speaker 3>weird shit's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do with that? So his mind wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>on everything this creature was doing. It was just happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And to this day, he said, he still thinks that

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<v Speaker 3>this thing was trying to communicate something. He asked me

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<v Speaker 3>if I would go back there and check their I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm gonna be there at some point, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know a boy that it's gonna be hard

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<v Speaker 3>enough to film in the woods back home. But I

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<v Speaker 3>want to thank Edwin for sharing. He'll be back to

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<v Speaker 3>Alaska next year doing some more fisheries work or canary work,

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<v Speaker 3>whichever it may be. Edwin had a message for everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>don't assume they're out to hurt you immediately. They could

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<v Speaker 3>be trying to communicate with you and you just don't

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<v Speaker 3>recognize their form of communication. So that's fair me personally,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm biased, so I'll just leave that alone.

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<v Speaker 4>But teach his own.

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<v Speaker 3>He says he feels he really missed out on something

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<v Speaker 3>that could have been groundbreaking because of what was going

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<v Speaker 3>on and everything and them starting up the car and

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<v Speaker 3>coming at him. One of his comments was, Dillingham's a

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<v Speaker 3>hell of a place. I can't agree more. Dillingham is

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<v Speaker 3>one hell of a place outside of the small town

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<v Speaker 3>village that you get with the social ILKs in general.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a beautiful place and it's definitely different. I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to share with you today. Is a small family and

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<v Speaker 3>Dealingham just a few years back. We'll name him Keith

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<v Speaker 3>and Danielle. Keith and Danielle have their two daughters and

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<v Speaker 3>their son. Their oldest daughter at the time was twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>the next daughter was like nine.

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<v Speaker 4>And the little boy was five.

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<v Speaker 3>So what they did was is that they had a

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<v Speaker 3>subsistence site for king salmon on the Lusk River where

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<v Speaker 3>they had they're sitting at side at they weren't getting

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<v Speaker 3>king salmon that they wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>They got a few.

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<v Speaker 3>Keith it talk to a relative of his who had

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<v Speaker 3>a setet site on the Wood River side. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the map, becomes in the Nushigak Bay

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<v Speaker 3>goy Dillingham. Then the Nushigak branches off to your it

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<v Speaker 3>would be the right and then the Wood River cuts

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<v Speaker 3>up to Electing Gig.

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<v Speaker 4>So his plan was to take the wife and family

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<v Speaker 4>go get his king net.

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<v Speaker 3>He brought his red gear for subsistence and basically it's

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<v Speaker 3>just different shackle size for the smaller salmon gill net anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>so they get out there, they pull his gear, they

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<v Speaker 3>stack it up, and everyone uses a sign saying it's

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<v Speaker 3>basically for fishing game and whoever else this is set

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<v Speaker 3>net site for subsistence whatever with a number on it.

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<v Speaker 3>So he grabs his sign, grabs his gear, and they

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<v Speaker 3>go up to the Wood River. Now when they get

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<v Speaker 3>to his friend's site, his friend's gear was out, and

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<v Speaker 3>he agreed that he would pick the fish and stack

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<v Speaker 3>the gear up on the bank, just temporarily take his

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<v Speaker 3>sign down and put his up and so on. So

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<v Speaker 3>he had it worked out. So he gets up to

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<v Speaker 3>his buddy side or his relative site. Typically what we

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<v Speaker 3>do is one end is achored out into the river

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<v Speaker 3>or the water wherever it's at, and the other end is.

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<v Speaker 4>Attached to the bank.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what we'll do is we'll pull up with

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<v Speaker 3>the bow of the skiff and pull the gear up

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<v Speaker 3>on top and go through and pick the fish out.

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<v Speaker 3>He used the net to pull yourselves towards shore or

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<v Speaker 3>out or however you work it out, but typically to

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<v Speaker 3>pick the fish right into the boat. So he goes through,

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<v Speaker 3>he picks a few fish out and whatever, and they

420
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<v Speaker 3>pull his gear and as he stacks the shackle and

421
00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:36.039
<v Speaker 3>he takes the sign down, his twelve year old daughter says, Dad, Dad,

422
00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:38.160
<v Speaker 3>that man is waving at us.

423
00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.400
<v Speaker 4>So he's up on the bank, so he's looking around.

424
00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:43.759
<v Speaker 4>He turns back. He's what man, and she goes, he's

425
00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:46.079
<v Speaker 4>in the woods. It wasn't necessarily woods.

426
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<v Speaker 3>There's a bunch of willows and alders at that point

427
00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.799
<v Speaker 3>on the river hadn't got into the timbers quite yet,

428
00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.359
<v Speaker 3>and so he goes, there's no one up here, sweetheart.

429
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<v Speaker 4>And he continued doing what he was doing.

430
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<v Speaker 3>So he shoves the sign in and he grabs the

431
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<v Speaker 3>one lead line and anchors it end of the ground

432
00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.079
<v Speaker 3>where his friend had an anchor, so he could toe

433
00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:06.240
<v Speaker 3>his line out and drop it and be set. So

434
00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.920
<v Speaker 3>he comes back down and he's unloading his red gear,

435
00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:12.480
<v Speaker 3>his shackles, and he notices there's a good sized tear

436
00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:14.680
<v Speaker 3>in one of them, so he asks for his mending twine.

437
00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:16.720
<v Speaker 3>So he's sitting there and he's mending up this net

438
00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:19.599
<v Speaker 3>this small hole, and as he's patching it up, his

439
00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:22.319
<v Speaker 3>daughter and his wife say, hey, there's something in the willows.

440
00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:24.920
<v Speaker 3>So he's a little frustrated because he's trying to work.

441
00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.519
<v Speaker 3>He wants to get things set out before the next

442
00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.160
<v Speaker 3>tide comes in and potentially fill up the net. So

443
00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.279
<v Speaker 3>he goes over and he brought a shotgun for ducks

444
00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.200
<v Speaker 3>or whatever he may come across, and he also had

445
00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:37.480
<v Speaker 3>his four P forty four rifle in a case towards the.

446
00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.839
<v Speaker 4>Back of the skiff for bear protection. So he just

447
00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:41.720
<v Speaker 4>grabs a shotgun.

448
00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:43.880
<v Speaker 3>He figured, I'll go up on the bank and see

449
00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:45.960
<v Speaker 3>if I see anything and just make some noise with

450
00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:47.039
<v Speaker 3>some bird shot in the air.

451
00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:49.680
<v Speaker 4>So he gets up there, he looks around, he doesn't

452
00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:50.039
<v Speaker 4>see nine.

453
00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:53.759
<v Speaker 3>He just bam shoots one off, pumps the shotgun, puts

454
00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:56.039
<v Speaker 3>it on safety, goes back, sets it into the skiff.

455
00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:58.720
<v Speaker 3>That says it's scared off. It's scared off, and he

456
00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:01.119
<v Speaker 3>heard nothing. He just sho any bear would have took

457
00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:04.759
<v Speaker 3>off and whatever. So he goes back, he finishes minding

458
00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:06.960
<v Speaker 3>the net. They get it all set up to go,

459
00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:10.279
<v Speaker 3>and so what ends up happening is you take your

460
00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:13.200
<v Speaker 3>bully line and an anchor and you have it off

461
00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:16.000
<v Speaker 3>your bow, and whoever's operating the skiff will drag that

462
00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:19.000
<v Speaker 3>net offshore, out into the water until it's nice and

463
00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.839
<v Speaker 3>taunt and then you drop the anchor and let it

464
00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:24.640
<v Speaker 3>set and then you got a nice set. So they're

465
00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:27.039
<v Speaker 3>in the process of doing that. He has his wife

466
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.160
<v Speaker 3>operating the skiff. She's backing it up. She's following his

467
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.480
<v Speaker 3>commands with his hands or whatever. This way that way,

468
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:35.720
<v Speaker 3>and just as it's getting taunt and he's like a

469
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:37.759
<v Speaker 3>little more, and they just get it out of the

470
00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:40.119
<v Speaker 3>way and he drops the anchor in the bully. They

471
00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:41.960
<v Speaker 3>back away from it so it doesn't get caught up,

472
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:43.079
<v Speaker 3>and they're propeller or whatever.

473
00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:46.359
<v Speaker 4>They go up just above it. They beach the skiff.

474
00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:48.400
<v Speaker 3>They want to see if any fish hit the net,

475
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:51.079
<v Speaker 3>because the kids like to watch the salmon splashing the

476
00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:51.680
<v Speaker 3>net and fight.

477
00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:54.119
<v Speaker 4>So as they're sitting there. He kept getting the feeling

478
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:55.319
<v Speaker 4>that they were being watched.

479
00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.440
<v Speaker 3>From where they set the net, the bank kind of

480
00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:01.599
<v Speaker 3>went down lower to where they beached up, so the

481
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:03.880
<v Speaker 3>bank wasn't as high, and he had a better field

482
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.839
<v Speaker 3>of view of that immediate area because with the willows

483
00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:09.640
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, man, it's really hard to You'll have all

484
00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:11.720
<v Speaker 3>this grass right on the edge of the river bank,

485
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.440
<v Speaker 3>it'll be three four foot tall. Then you got the

486
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:17.880
<v Speaker 3>ten twelve foot willows there, so you don't have a

487
00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:20.279
<v Speaker 3>whole lot of room to really see what's going on

488
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:24.079
<v Speaker 3>beyond that. But where they banked up, he tied off,

489
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:27.440
<v Speaker 3>and he kept getting the feeling like they're being watched,

490
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.200
<v Speaker 3>and so he goes to the back of this gift.

491
00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.599
<v Speaker 4>He pulls out his Marlin four forty four and he

492
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 4>loads up about three rounds.

493
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:37.839
<v Speaker 3>Racks went in tells his wife something feels off, and

494
00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:42.079
<v Speaker 3>she said, I feel it too. His daughter kept trying

495
00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:44.440
<v Speaker 3>to interrupt, and he kept cutting off, hey, don't interrupt,

496
00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.359
<v Speaker 3>adults are talking. In his mind's it was, I need

497
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.519
<v Speaker 3>to discuss with my wife what to do if a

498
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:52.400
<v Speaker 3>bear comes, because that's what they were thinking. As they're

499
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.680
<v Speaker 3>discussing this. The daughter keeps interrupting, and so he gets upset.

500
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Keith goes, what are you interrupting us adults for? And

501
00:23:58.759 --> 00:24:01.440
<v Speaker 3>she goes, Dad, that man is. So he looks around

502
00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:04.359
<v Speaker 3>and he sees darkness in the willows. Duck down and

503
00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:06.119
<v Speaker 3>he was like, what the hell? So he asked a

504
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.680
<v Speaker 3>daughter who was it? Because they know everybody who was it?

505
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Was it an elder from Elecni Gig, was it? Someone

506
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:11.519
<v Speaker 3>from Billingham?

507
00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Who was it?

508
00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:13.640
<v Speaker 3>She goes, I don't know. He was wearing a coat,

509
00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.119
<v Speaker 3>he said, what kind of coat? She said, a fur coat.

510
00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:18.720
<v Speaker 3>He stood up, he waved at me, he motioned for me,

511
00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:22.440
<v Speaker 3>and then when you turn he ducked down and he goes, okay.

512
00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:26.039
<v Speaker 3>He decides what he's going to do is get out

513
00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:28.279
<v Speaker 3>of the skiff, walk along a little further up river,

514
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:31.720
<v Speaker 3>get up onto the river bank, and have the wife

515
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:35.799
<v Speaker 3>and the kids over here, hopefully get an eye on

516
00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:39.599
<v Speaker 3>whatever's waving at his kid or whoever's waving at his daughter.

517
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.880
<v Speaker 3>And as soon as he said I'm going to walk

518
00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 3>up a little ways, immediately his wife, the two daughters

519
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:47.200
<v Speaker 3>and a little boy they oh, no, don't go.

520
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.319
<v Speaker 4>Because there was a feeling in the air. The air changed.

521
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 3>He was like, just calm down, don't be We ain't

522
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:56.599
<v Speaker 3>scared of bears. What we got, we're protected. He had

523
00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.279
<v Speaker 3>the four forty four Marl and big whopper of around.

524
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.559
<v Speaker 3>It's basically a forty four mag just a lot longer

525
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:06.160
<v Speaker 3>casing with a lot more behind it. So he wasn't

526
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 3>concerned about the bears in that aspect. So he calmed them,

527
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:13.000
<v Speaker 3>said hey, it'll be okay. He gets up, goes ahead

528
00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:16.000
<v Speaker 3>of his plan, gets up to where he figures it'd

529
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:18.240
<v Speaker 3>be a good vantage point. They're lucky the wind is

530
00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:21.359
<v Speaker 3>coming towards them, so he wouldn't be winded. And he

531
00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:23.200
<v Speaker 3>just took his hat and everything off, and he's just

532
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:25.559
<v Speaker 3>peeking up through the grass watching those willows where he

533
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:28.759
<v Speaker 3>saw the dark movement. Now he decides I'm going to

534
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:30.880
<v Speaker 3>since i'm over here. He didn't like smoking in front

535
00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:32.799
<v Speaker 3>of his kids, so he lit up a cigarette since

536
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 3>the wind was blowing into his face.

537
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 4>He figured he'd be good and not get winded.

538
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:40.359
<v Speaker 3>So as he's lighting a cigarette and smoking, he notices

539
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 3>dark movement, so he immediately stops what he's doing and

540
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:47.440
<v Speaker 3>starts looking. He sees he said it looked like something

541
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>going like this in the brush, and he said he

542
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 3>couldn't make it out because of how things were with

543
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:57.559
<v Speaker 3>the willows. It was silhouetted because the sun was rising

544
00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:00.359
<v Speaker 3>from that direction. This is in the wee hours of

545
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.200
<v Speaker 3>the morning, just as the sun's coming up. And again

546
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 3>at landed the midnight sun. At that time of year,

547
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:08.519
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't fully get dark, so there was plenty of

548
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.400
<v Speaker 3>light and that he could see just fine, but he

549
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:13.799
<v Speaker 3>just the way things were going down, he couldn't make

550
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 3>out what this motion was because that's all he was

551
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.599
<v Speaker 3>seeing out of the willows, was like a single arm

552
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.200
<v Speaker 3>going like this, and it made no sense.

553
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:23.319
<v Speaker 4>And he hears his daughter start screaming.

554
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.559
<v Speaker 3>He sees the willows moving, but from his vantage point,

555
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 3>his family's off here to his right, and he's looking.

556
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess the family would be off between the two

557
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 3>and three o'clock position ish two thirtieth position, and his

558
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 3>twelve o'clock was directly at this thing.

559
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:42.240
<v Speaker 4>So he's looking and he can see the movement, but

560
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 4>he can't make.

561
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 3>Out anything because again it's silhouetted, and so he decides, okay.

562
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 4>He puts out a cigarette, puts it in his pocket.

563
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 3>He grabs his rifle puts his hat on and he

564
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.599
<v Speaker 3>ducks down as cutbank a little bit. And so what

565
00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:56.920
<v Speaker 3>he does is he ducks down below the bank line

566
00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 3>and shimmy's on over closer to his family to get

567
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.160
<v Speaker 3>a bitter look at what's going on and if he

568
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 3>has to shoot, he's between his family and this bear

569
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.799
<v Speaker 3>at the time is what he was thinking, but acting

570
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.960
<v Speaker 3>strange bear. So he gets over there. Danielle is telling

571
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.799
<v Speaker 3>him it's looking at us, it's looking at us.

572
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 4>It's a hairy man. It's a hairy man.

573
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 3>And immediately he stands up and looks and sees this

574
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 3>thing duck back into the brush, and immediately all bets

575
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:22.960
<v Speaker 3>are off.

576
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 4>He realized, oh, it is a harry man. We gotta go.

577
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 4>It's too close, it's showing too much interest in my kids.

578
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I gotta go. So he gets over to the skiff,

579
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 4>he grabs.

580
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 3>An anchor line. He's loading up the anchor and his

581
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.799
<v Speaker 3>wife is firing up the kicker. He pushes off and

582
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:40.799
<v Speaker 3>they back away and they loop out into the river

583
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>a little further and drop the anchor because they wanted

584
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 3>to watch this thing. So as they're sitting there, they

585
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:48.960
<v Speaker 3>anchored up, the anchor catches and they're just a little

586
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 3>bit below where they set the net.

587
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.839
<v Speaker 4>They're looking and watching the willows.

588
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 3>As they're doing that, they're talking to each other about

589
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 3>what they saw, what exactly, who, what, when?

590
00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Why?

591
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 3>His daughter kept it was waving at me and smiling.

592
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 3>It kept waving and smiling, and he goes, what did

593
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>it look like? And she said it looked like a

594
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 3>man with the fur hat on, and all I could

595
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.480
<v Speaker 3>see it was his face, but his face looked really dirty.

596
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:15.319
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, dirty how and she goes, it was

597
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>just dirty. It was dark brownish, it was dirt. They

598
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.960
<v Speaker 3>looked dirty, and she couldn't really articulate what.

599
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 4>She was seeing. So they sit there for a while.

600
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 3>He was a little shook up, so he ReLit his cigarette,

601
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 3>and he hated doing that in front of his kids

602
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 3>because he knew it was a bad influence, but he

603
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 3>lit that cigarette anyway because he was a little shaky.

604
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Everyone in the skiff really didn't want to be anchored there,

605
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.680
<v Speaker 3>but they were trying to get a better view of

606
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 3>what they're dealing with. They just set this net, so regardless,

607
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.599
<v Speaker 3>they're going to have to deal with it in one

608
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>way or another.

609
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 4>When they get their gear and reset his cousin's gear.

610
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.400
<v Speaker 3>And so as he's contemplating this, he sees the silhouette

611
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of move, and every once in a while it

612
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 3>would stand up a little taller.

613
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:56.279
<v Speaker 4>They were above the McClung river.

614
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 3>This thing appeared to be peeking back at them every

615
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.960
<v Speaker 3>so often and making it way towards the McClung. So,

616
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 3>as they're discussing, okay, it's moved away, he decides, right

617
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 3>then and there screw this set net site.

618
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to deal with this.

619
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.200
<v Speaker 3>So they hold the anchor, they go right back up

620
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 3>on shore, they pull his gear, they change out the signs,

621
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 3>they reset his friend's gear, and he said, as it

622
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 3>got done doing that, and they just got his cousin's gear,

623
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 3>retaunt and anchor and Blewie dropped, he said, something caught

624
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 3>his eye off his right hand side, because they were

625
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 3>going upriver, and they were facing upriver with the bow

626
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 3>of the skiff as he was working this thing. So

627
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 3>he looks over and he sees it standing up almost

628
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.880
<v Speaker 3>where his daughter first saw it. It's motioning for them.

629
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 3>It keeps motioning for them like this, and then it

630
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 3>would look up, look around, and then do it again.

631
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 3>And motion for them, and he said its hands were huge.

632
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 3>He said it had to be over eight foot tall.

633
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.359
<v Speaker 3>But what caught him, instruck him was how wide it was.

634
00:29:59.480 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>It was.

635
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

636
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 4>right back after these messages.

637
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.079
<v Speaker 3>He said, it almost at that distance looked as wide

638
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 3>as it was tall. But he knew it was just

639
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 3>an optical illusion type of thing. But he said it

640
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 3>was very wide, very stocky, but big, and so they're

641
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.000
<v Speaker 3>freaked out. Luckily, his cousin's gear was set, all his

642
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 3>stuff was in the skiff.

643
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.680
<v Speaker 4>He dropped it. They looked at a brief moment and

644
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.720
<v Speaker 4>got on out of there. Yeah. Again, none of these

645
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 4>experiences are unique.

646
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 3>I know there's a little over one hundred experiences shared

647
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 3>with you guys thus far, but understand that is a

648
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 3>drop in the bucket. There's way more than that just

649
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 3>from the Bristol Bay area, not counting the interior by Fairbanks,

650
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 3>the Koyakuk River, name a river, the Russian River, the

651
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Kenai River. These things are happening, not on a daily basis.

652
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to lay it out.

653
00:30:58.160 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. Everywhere he turned, there's a Harry man

654
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.680
<v Speaker 4>out to get you. That's not it. Just be aware

655
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 4>this encounter I want to share with you. This particular guy,

656
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 4>he no longer lives at this place, which is just

657
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 4>north of Willow a little ways.

658
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 3>His property is not far from the Sussitina River. His

659
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 3>experience was last fall. His dog had been missing for

660
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:23.759
<v Speaker 3>about a week, almost two weeks, and this particular dog

661
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 3>was really old. It was about sixteen seventeen years old,

662
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 3>and he assumed the dog went off to die, which

663
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 3>dogs would do, that kind of thing, same with cats.

664
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 3>He decides he sees this path across the river there

665
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:37.839
<v Speaker 3>and he wants to go check it out. So he goes,

666
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 3>and he finds a shallow spot and he gets across,

667
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 3>and then he backstracks to this trail and he starts

668
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 3>going down it. Off to his right, he's going through

669
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 3>black spruce and some cottonwoods and some fairly young birch trees.

670
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Someone had gone through there sometime before and knocked down

671
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of the old growth birch, probably for firewood.

672
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 4>From the stumps that had small little thing is grown

673
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 4>out of it.

674
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 3>So he's going through there and he's checking it out,

675
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 3>and something he feels like he's being watched. He really

676
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 3>he can't put his finger on it. So as he's

677
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 3>going through these trees, very similar to the what's behind

678
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 3>me here. We got some cottonwoods birching, some spruce.

679
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 4>Back over there. So basically the same type of terrain

680
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 4>behind me.

681
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Now.

682
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 3>So as he's going along and he's going down this

683
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 3>path it is fairly open, but off to his right

684
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:29.480
<v Speaker 3>is where the alders. They get thicker and they're blushed up.

685
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 3>And as he's going along and there's some movement, he

686
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 3>hears over there and he's, hah, I want if to

687
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 3>ask my dog. Of course, for almost seventeen years, that's

688
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>unconditional love. So of course he's going to head over

689
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:39.720
<v Speaker 3>to check it out.

690
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 4>As he's walking over and it's approximately thirty yards from

691
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 4>his position, he felt no.

692
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Danger, had no inklining, just anything bad or out of

693
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 3>the ordinary. He's continuing over there and the bushes has

694
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 3>really come alive, and then he hears a real guttural

695
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>growl and he goes, oh, that's not my dog. I

696
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 3>hope it's not a bear chewing on my dog. I

697
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.720
<v Speaker 3>don't want to see that. He backs out, he's smart

698
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 3>about it. He backs away. He wasn't armed. He just

699
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 3>went to go check out a trail not far from

700
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:06.319
<v Speaker 3>his property.

701
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 4>No harm, no foul.

702
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 3>He gets back to it just as the tree is

703
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 3>sticking up right close to the river bank. He was

704
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 3>getting back to that area when he noticed something was

705
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 3>being thrown at him. He kept hearing things land in

706
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:21.319
<v Speaker 3>the shrubs beside him, but he couldn't make anything out.

707
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:23.920
<v Speaker 3>So he turned around and he's trying to figure out

708
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 3>what the hell, and this piece of a foot leg

709
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.279
<v Speaker 3>lands almost at his feet, just into some bushes, and

710
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 3>then it flopped on the trail by him. Thought nothing

711
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.319
<v Speaker 3>of it at first. He's kind of looking at it,

712
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out what it is. And this particular

713
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 3>dog that had been missing.

714
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Was all white except for some black socks basically on

715
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 4>his feet, and it was one of those legs.

716
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm a dog lover man, cats are cute. I got

717
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 3>no use for him, but I've always loved dogs. Grew

718
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 3>up with a sled dog team. So he was in shock,

719
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:02.559
<v Speaker 3>standing there staring because he's wrecking. That's a piece of

720
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 3>my dog. So he looks back in the direction of

721
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 3>the bushes. He sees movement back behind there, but it

722
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 3>looks like a bear, because it looked like to be

723
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Speaker 3>on all fours, pacing back and forth through the brush.

724
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 4>But the growling going on was not like that of

725
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 4>a bear.

726
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 3>It was too long, too deep, too different, way too

727
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:26.519
<v Speaker 3>different than what you would typically expect. So as he's

728
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 3>caught the plating, still in shock, like he's still trying

729
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.239
<v Speaker 3>to wrap his mind around about his dog's.

730
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 4>Leg at his feet.

731
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 3>I've seen some shit, but to have a piece of

732
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 3>your loved one's corpse chucked at you, and.

733
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 4>Who knows what it was a warning, knew it was

734
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.000
<v Speaker 4>his dog. I have no clue. It's all speculation.

735
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 3>So he snaps himself out of it because all of

736
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, the movement turns into all out movement towards him,

737
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:53.840
<v Speaker 3>just out of.

738
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 4>You in those shrubs. So he's kind of shocked, and

739
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.280
<v Speaker 4>he went to start backing up, and then he seen

740
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.639
<v Speaker 4>this thing transition from fours up to two's just out

741
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 4>of you with the tree line, and he was perplexed,

742
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 4>still in shock, turned to run, but just was like

743
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.679
<v Speaker 4>contemplating taking the piece of his dog with him to

744
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 4>bury it or something. He was in shock.

745
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 3>I could imagine in that moment what it would be

746
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 3>like all of a sudden, a piece of your loved

747
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:22.199
<v Speaker 3>ones at your feet.

748
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 4>I digress.

749
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 3>As he's still in shock, this thing moves around and

750
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 3>is coming back on his back trail. Now he's not

751
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>that far. He's made it maybe eighty yards down this

752
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 3>path from the river bank, so he's not that far.

753
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 3>He just cleared the trees that line the river and

754
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.559
<v Speaker 3>then it opens up into some marsh and tundra areas

755
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 3>and whatnot, and a bumping muskeg back in there. So

756
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't far. But this thing circled around. Now as

757
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 3>it's circling around, it dawns on him. I need to

758
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 3>get out of here because it's circling up on me.

759
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 3>So he leaves the dog's leg, turns and cuts down

760
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 3>the trail and he's hauling ass at this point, and

761
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 3>he can hear this big thing moving through the trees,

762
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 3>not paralleling him, but like moving to cut off his

763
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 3>forward progression. So he was a highly motivated track star

764
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 3>that day. So he continues running. He gets to the

765
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 3>river's edge where he's at is right in front of

766
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 3>a deep hole. But it's pretty much shallow outside of

767
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 3>this deep hole, so he backs up about ten feet

768
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 3>and this noise had stopped. So he looks over to

769
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 3>his left and he sees this movement behind a tree.

770
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 3>It was actually a group of trees. He saw a movement,

771
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:36.360
<v Speaker 3>something peeking out, something going back.

772
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 4>Now he didn't know what to do.

773
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.360
<v Speaker 3>He was shocked because he knew it was on two

774
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.960
<v Speaker 3>feet shaped, humanoid, but massive.

775
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 4>So this thing wasn't hiding.

776
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 3>It was like the deer putting its head behind the tree.

777
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>You could still see its body. That's what he said.

778
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.239
<v Speaker 3>It reminded him of because it wasn't putting eyes on him. Somehow,

779
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't be able to see this big, massive things.

780
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 3>So he gets stuck staring at this thing, and it's

781
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 3>trying to contemplate what do I do. I could imagine

782
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 3>at this point he had resolved himself that he's going

783
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 3>to jump into the river to get the hell out

784
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 3>of Dodge. I can't say as I wouldn't. I would

785
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 3>be all over jumping and there. I don't even think

786
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 3>i'd still be standing at that particular point. However, I

787
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 3>wasn't there. No judgment, No judgment, John, I'll get it.

788
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.079
<v Speaker 3>It's shocking when you're accosted by something like this and

789
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 3>you have no reference point. You're thinking it's a bear

790
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 3>or something like that, and then it's just totally mind

791
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 3>altering for sure. So he's contemplating everything going on. Meanwhile,

792
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.920
<v Speaker 3>this thing is making these movements, and he takes his

793
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:41.840
<v Speaker 3>gaze off it just for a moment to check the

794
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 3>depth of the water again, contemplating how cold it's going

795
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 3>to be, because it had stopped, so all this aggression

796
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 3>had stopped, but it was still right there. So he

797
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 3>glances away, pondering how far he'd have to jump, or

798
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 3>if he's going to dive, just things of this nature.

799
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.719
<v Speaker 3>And then he looks back and there's nothing there, so

800
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 3>he calmed down, right, He's okay, it's gone. And then

801
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.679
<v Speaker 3>he started thinking, is my mind playing tricks on me?

802
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Because he felt he should have been able to hear

803
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 3>it leave or watch it leave because it made noise

804
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 3>as it was coming. Then all of a sudden, just

805
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 3>poof gone. So he starts really looking like intently, and

806
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 3>he notices it slipping from trees to trees. As he's

807
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 3>turning this way. He notices out of the corner of

808
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.079
<v Speaker 3>his eye the movement. He catches on to what's going

809
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 3>on and starts adjusting He's turning his head but looking

810
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 3>out the side of his eye, and he sees this

811
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 3>thing moving back along, but it's circling back to where

812
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 3>he was just at with the dog leg. He decides,

813
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 3>you know what, the dog's gone. I'm not gonna try

814
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 3>to retrieve this carcass. I don't know if it's eating it,

815
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. He had already resolved that the dog

816
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 3>was dead anyway, so he was just gonna leave it

817
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 3>at that. Hey, fair enough, I get it. Move on

818
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 3>that type of thing. So he's struggling with accepting what

819
00:38:56.760 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 3>he's seeing. He's staring at his feet and he can

820
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 3>hear noises going on around him, but he's in this

821
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 3>surreal shock of what's going on? Why is this going

822
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 3>on here? So he snaps out of it. He catches himself. Now,

823
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 3>when I was talking to him about it, he was

824
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 3>taking long pauses and I would have to sow what

825
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 3>happened next.

826
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.039
<v Speaker 4>I sorry to interrupt, but he was in deep thought.

827
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.239
<v Speaker 3>I think what it was is he was envisioning at

828
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 3>that point the thing ripping his dog apart, but he

829
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.679
<v Speaker 3>had no clue if that's exactly what happened or not.

830
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Speculation anyway, he turns around and he decides he's not

831
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>going to jump into the river. He's going to go

832
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 3>back up river a little ways and cross across these

833
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 3>rocks to where it because this thing wasn't actively being

834
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.079
<v Speaker 3>aggressive at that point. It was just slipping around like

835
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.559
<v Speaker 3>a phantom. It just so happened. It was going in

836
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 3>the direction real slowly. It's not like it was trying

837
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 3>to cut him off. But he realized, I better get

838
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 3>moving on this now while I can, and rightfully so

839
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.719
<v Speaker 3>and smartly, he started going down the trail and he

840
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:01.320
<v Speaker 3>had is this es gate plan. He's going to go

841
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 3>across this is sitting if he has to this particular

842
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:05.960
<v Speaker 3>point where he has to cross.

843
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.840
<v Speaker 4>It's not the easiest place to cross.

844
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not a necessarily a small river, but this particular

845
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:18.440
<v Speaker 3>point he could navigate the way he got across relatively

846
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 3>easy with the swiftness.

847
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 4>Of the water or whatever. He didn't want to have

848
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:22.119
<v Speaker 4>to swim.

849
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Now, I know I'm repeating this, but he repeated it

850
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 3>to me, so I'm telling you as how he conveyed

851
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 3>it to me, I'm conveying it to you. So he's

852
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.239
<v Speaker 3>continuing down the trail and the movement he hears starting

853
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 3>behind him. It's no longer off to his right hand

854
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 3>side now the movement's behind him, and as he's going

855
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.840
<v Speaker 3>along the trail, he's trying not to look. He's really

856
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 3>he's lost mentally, he's trying to put all these pieces

857
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 3>together that don't fit. And because he'd been there lifelong,

858
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 3>never had a peaking, never had anything go missing, nothing

859
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.159
<v Speaker 3>no longer lives there now. So he's going along and

860
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 3>he's contemplating all these things, and he hears the noises

861
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 3>behind him, but he doesn't really want to look, but

862
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 3>he's very cognizant of the fact that it's not horribly

863
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.800
<v Speaker 3>far behind him and it can move silently. He's getting

864
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 3>up to this little crossing point, which is a cluster

865
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 3>of rocks, shallow area, some more rocks, a little deeper area,

866
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 3>and then some more rocks to get across, so it's

867
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 3>not just a crossing a creek.

868
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Just understand that.

869
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Now, as he's getting up, there's another trail that comes

870
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 3>from where people come from a different road and come

871
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 3>down there to do the fishing from the bank. Right,

872
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 3>So as these two trails are merging, it's damn near

873
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 3>right at that point where he's going to cross back across. Now,

874
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.199
<v Speaker 3>as he's going along, he hears the noise behind him,

875
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 3>but off to his right hand side. He notices movement

876
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 3>going off back to his right hand side, and he's concerned,

877
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 3>and he turns and looks, and it looks like his

878
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 3>neighbor's dog, and he's I wonder why the neighbor's dog

879
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.480
<v Speaker 3>is over here. So he chalks it up neighbors problem.

880
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully it doesn't happen his dog. What I'm dealing with

881
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 3>on mind. So he's getting onto the rocks.

882
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 4>And go back across, and just as he is, here's

883
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 4>splashing rocks a little bigger than a softball. We're being

884
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 4>chucked just at points where he would have to where

885
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 4>he was going to be crossing. He didn't know what

886
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 4>to make of it. I don't know what to make

887
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:24.280
<v Speaker 4>of it.

888
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Usually they throw rocks and gets you out of there,

889
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 3>scary or something. So he just starts making his way.

890
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 4>He does this thing.

891
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 3>He gets across, and the trail that cuts back towards

892
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 3>his property is a lot narrower than the one on

893
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the other side where people come from a different road

894
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.519
<v Speaker 3>and go down there and fish. He's going along the

895
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 3>narrow road, he notices a familiar patch of fur from

896
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:49.719
<v Speaker 3>his dog that was missing. What he surmises is that

897
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:55.480
<v Speaker 3>it threw it straight because where this particular piece of

898
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 3>the dog was directly straight across the river from where.

899
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 4>He entered the trail and where the dog leg was

900
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 4>further up. So he's assuming this thing just flung it

901
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 4>across the river so he would see it on his

902
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 4>way back to his property. He didn't give exact specifics

903
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 4>on where he exactly was, but it's just north to me.

904
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Just that direction is where this went down.

905
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 3>The Susitna rivers back over here, it wraps, it goes

906
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 3>all the way, it goes away. These things I struggle with,

907
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.360
<v Speaker 3>are they our friends? Not here in Alaska. I have

908
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 3>not had a single email, a single conversation with anyone

909
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 3>to where it was a joyous, calm, peaceful thing. It's

910
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:44.760
<v Speaker 3>always some form of aggression or predatory behavior. Some of

911
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 3>these shares. They're very concerning as far as safety goes.

912
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 3>It makes you wonder why certain things are being held back.

913
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 3>A lot of it I think has to do with

914
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:54.360
<v Speaker 3>so many.

915
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 4>People not speaking on their experience. There's a lot of

916
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 4>people I've had at least thirty people just want to

917
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:05.559
<v Speaker 4>tell me. So there are little pinpoints on a map,

918
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:07.960
<v Speaker 4>but they didn't want to share it. They didn't want

919
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 4>me to speak on it. When there's at least thirty

920
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 4>of those, which I understand, respect your privacy. You won't

921
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Speaker 4>hear me talk about what happened to you.

922
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Hear you never will if you have to be anonymous

923
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 3>and just want to share so I can put a

924
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:20.119
<v Speaker 3>pin on a map.

925
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 4>Cool.

926
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.039
<v Speaker 3>All I ask is, if you do share in that way,

927
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:25.920
<v Speaker 3>at least let me know the nature of it, screaming

928
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 3>howling off in the distance, saw it and running whatever

929
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 3>it may be, just so I can put a pin

930
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 3>in the general area. Until then, thanks for joining me,

931
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 3>and we'll see on the next one. They say, you.

932
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:43.159
<v Speaker 4>Don't gotta go, but you can't stay.

933
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Science still step side. I'm trying this chart, that chart everything.

934
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Can you ride right back? Joy for me? Joy staying

935
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:52.960
<v Speaker 2>right you call it right away and still still stay

936
00:45:54.880 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 2>stay us to do dossssssssssst used these things
