Speaker 1: Real quick before I call Nick, I'm sorry, but Cooper
Flag is going to be a spur.
Speaker 2: We'll get We'll get into it. We'll get into it.
Don't piss the people off.
Speaker 3: Hi, look, welcome back. In our number three of Off
the Bench. Everyone is super fired up about Cooper Flag,
so we will get into that next segment little NBA basketball.
I'm sure Jordan is thrilled about the success of the
Los Angeles Lakers. I will certainly get everyone's thoughts on that.
What can they do in the playoffs? And then where
does Cooper Flag end up?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 3: As the uh the final picture of the team's overall
records is becoming a little bit more clear as we
wind down the regular season. I want to recap hours
one and two here just a little bit. In our one,
we hit a lot of LSU football. I previewed the
running back position coming up for spring, and then last
segment we hit a little bit of New Orleans Saints
or back to LSU spring practice. Speaking of the New
Orleans Saints. Want to welcome in right now our normal
guest here, Tuesday nine am, Nick Underhill of New Orleans
Dot Football.
Speaker 2: Nick, how are you this morning?
Speaker 4: Doing good?
Speaker 2: How you doing doing well? Nick? You're not out.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you hopping on. It's look, it's Marty grawl
in New Orleans. What are the vibes like?
Speaker 4: They're they're good. Ben, Just tired, you know, it's just
real tired at the end of it. This is what
I feel. My age every year comes straight from the
combine where you're just like walking like twelve hours a
day in circles looking for people and then come right
here and just keep walking and standing. But yeah, this
is why I feel the year every year. But it's great, man,
it's great. Weather's been good. It looks like we're going
to get a nice pocket here before the rank comes
and messes everything up. So yeah, it's been it's been fantastic.
Speaker 3: I want to let's jump right into a look outside
of the NFL combine. The big story, at least for
LSU and New Orleans Saints fans, has been the hiring
of defensive line coach Bo Davis. What are your thoughts
on that hire? What's he going to bring to this
kellen More staff?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean even before they hired daily,
Bo Davis's name was like one night that I was here,
in and you know, people are telling me to look
out for it and everything. So it's it's you know,
I think I think where they're at, like if you
kind of look at the construction of their whole staff
with with Terry Joseph and Peter Sermon and Bo Davis,
I mean, I think that there's like a high premium
on player development right now for them. So I think
that's probably you know, kind of what they're thinking about
on that defense. And if you look at it overall,
I mean, like they're gonna need like like a lot
of people, Like they need a lot of players on
that side of the ball. They need to start thinking
about rebuilding it. And when you're you're playing the cap
like they do, like it's gonna take some cost effective players.
You're gonna have to, you know, take some mid round
picks and throw them into the players get them to
even be depth. And I and I think it's just
kind of an eye on that that that they're gonna
have a young defense probably for the next few years,
probably start so like thlowing out some of these older
players over the next couple of years, and they're gonna
have to be able to develop them. And you know
those to the college ranks. Getting some of those guys
that I think, you know, I think it makes a
lot of sense. I like the construction of that defense,
that defensive stet what we're going to kind of have
to see what Staley is overall. But yeah, I mean,
look that that's a good hire. And you know, low
key the rivalry between the Saints and LSU, like on
some of these uh staffers like that, there's there's you know,
a little gears one quiet battle there, and you know
it's kind of interesting to see you keep playing out
speaking of.
Speaker 2: Want to continue with Bo Davis right here.
Speaker 3: You know, anytime a mock draft has come out this offseason,
Nick and Saints fan see the Saints like projected to pick,
you know, whether it's a d tackle or a defensive end,
they kind of freeze because the Saints have missed on
so many of those guys. Does the hiring of Bo
Davis maybe alleviate some of those concerns, I'd say no.
Speaker 4: I mean, like I think I think you still have
to get the right the right players, and like I
don't think Bo Davis is turning Isaiah Foski into a superstar.
And like I might you know, if I'm wrong, like
clip that and play later, like I'll own it. But
I don't think that changes anything. Look, I think I
think the big reason they've missed on some of those
guys is because they've been drafting late. You know, in eighteen,
you know, you're you're defensive on the way from from
probably being a super Bowl team, and there's no way
to really get one. Like people don't let their their
d ns at the open market and sign unless you
know you're you're giving up on Trey Hendrickson too soon.
But like you know, top to your surefire things, like
they don't show up at that so you're kind of
taking a gamble there. Peyton Turner, you know, I think
you're you're you're drafting him late, hoping that the measurables
outweigh any concerns you have with him. Foski's the second rounder,
you know, Brian Berzi is the guy that that dropped too.
I think it is solid that hasn't quite done, you know,
all the way where you want them to be. But
I think I think the problem with with a lot
of those guys is that is that you're you're gambling overall,
and you're picking the wrong guys, and you know, I
don't think I don't think coaching or anything's really gonna
gonna save you know, Marcus Stavenport. I think the things
that that kind of play Marcus Stavenport or health and
just kind of the you know, the love of the game.
And I'm not sure that that you're interjecting that somewhere else,
but I mean that's probably the biggest issue on the
team though, Like if you look at the downturn and
the deterioration, like it really is in those trenches, and
you know, the Henderson add not in there, letting him go,
like all those decisions on that d line, I think
or the biggest issue with the team. And if you know,
two of the five things that went wrong hit like
I think they're they're in a slightly different place right now.
I mean, like if if I don't know, if you
still have Henderson and and you know, one of the
other guys like turns out to be good, like you
feel completely different about that defense. So I mean, hopefully
it helps them in the way though that they can
get you know a little more out of Fosky, like
you know, hopefully he makes him a productive player. The
next guy that comes in, he helps turn him into
a productive player, and you know, you get you get
more out of it than just the second round pick
that's a special team or like that's the stuff that
can't happen. And I think I think that overall since seventeen,
I mean, they've got to one Pro Bowl or overall,
and he's a center, Like I think. I didn't mean
you look at the team and say like, hey, like
why aren't they they good? It's it's really that like
they are't getting enough out of their drafts.
Speaker 3: Nick La, you were on here last Tuesday, and I
don't remember who asked you, was Jig or tab One
of them was saying, you know, if you had to
pick right now, where do you think the Saints are
leaning Round one? And you you threw out the name
Ash and Genty and I you know that that kind
of surprise a little bit of people.
Speaker 2: Are you still kind of.
Speaker 4: Feeling that, Yeah, Hemmer or Warren I think would be
the two guys that I'm looking at. You know, I
think if sh was there, they wouldn't draft them. You know,
I don't think like Mason Graham's going to make it there,
Like he's probably gonna go in the top eight. So
if you were there, i'd have him on the list too.
But I think got a lot of people that are
expected to be there. I think it's it's probably those
two guys that that they're probably looking at the you know,
the the closest, you know, I think there's needs there too,
Like obviously like Genty's, I think I think he's he's
you know, different, like I think, and a really good
running back draft class, Like he kind of stands alone.
I think it's the top pretty far away from the
rest the pack, you know, and philosophically, like I've been
someone that's like, you know, get them in the third
round and kind of develop them. But I do think
there is a shift in the league a little bit
with how running backs are getting valued. They're getting paid money,
you know now that that they weren't getting paid before,
they're going to get drafted higher. You know, it's just
kind of shifting back more towards a run game. That's
kind of just obviously you know the trend and how
it kind of goes. Defenses get smaller, everybody starts building
their defenses for nickel packages. So now offenses are going
to veer back, and you know, I think you kind
of saw defenses catch up overall, and that's just kind
of how the league goes. You know. It's like we
go from skinny jeans to baggy jeans back to skinny
g Like it's just kind of the way, you know,
football kind of follows the same pattern. So yeah, I
think I think we're back on the on the running
back thing there. You know, I think he's gonna get
drafted pretty high. You know. I think the counter argument
to that will be is, like, do you have the
line to support them? Like Takua without the Eagles line
was a thousand yard running back to Takuon with the
Eagles line was a two thousand yard running back like
in the Saints, pick full advantage of it, you know
that that would be the counter that tight end. I
think Warren's definitely in that mix. Lovelin, who is you know,
obviously a good player, but I think the shoulder kind
of screwed him a little bit. I think I think
Warren goes first, and you know, if you want the
blocking and all that, like, I think I think Warren's
kind of the guy that that you will favor. So
I think he's he's a real option at nine too.
But if if you know Mason Grahamer to fall, I
think I think I probably put him at the top,
But I just don't think he's going to be.
Speaker 3: There as far as Tyler Warren is nick. I mean, look,
there's there's obviously been a lot of talk. Are the
Saints gonna keep Taysom? Are they gonna trade taysm what's
his trade value? What can he bring to the Saints?
Did they kind of viewed Tyler Warren as maybe that
that that Taysom Hill style player, because you know, he
lined up a quarterback a lot at.
Speaker 4: Penn State can definitely give you some of it. You know,
I kind of like when I look at him, I
kind of I kind of tap back a little bit too.
I used to cover the Patriots when they had Gronk
and Hernandez and like, you know, one of the things
with with Kellen Moore that he really likes to pace
and there's a lot of no huddle and they're usually
right at the top of the league in the huddle,
top two three, like every year he's been in the league.
And you know, one of the things the Patriots did
really well, you know with you know, they were different players,
Like I'm not saying it like I don't think I
don't think Todd Warren's like like like, you know, there's
probably more I don't. I don't know, like he's not
a Hernandus type player, but with the way that he
can move around and do all kinds of different things,
like there is some similarity there. And like the key
to the Patriots now huddle in that eleventh season but
was just like they were able to just kind of
put him everywhere, like he's a tailback on one play,
flex tight end on another, he's put out wide as
a wide receiver, and like they kind of stole from
Chip Kelly and they were doing like a one word
turbo offense, and like just that ability to move around
and create a mismatch like no matter what the defense
was doing. Like I think he could give you some
of that in that package more so than even Taysom could.
But yeah, I mean I think I think there's some
crossover there for sure. I mean I think there's some
similarity overall. I don't think you take him and you know,
try to do everything. And I obviously one of the
things that makes Taysom Taysom is that you kind of
just have to respect the fact that he might just
you know, pull up until the ball on the field.
But there's definitely definitely some flexibility there that I think,
you know, makes some Rarren kind of opens up some
of those things that you might want to do.
Speaker 3: Nick unurial of you all is done football our guest
right now. Nick, We've talked a lot about, you know,
the first round, whether it's a gend, whether it's Warren.
As far as the later rounds go, is there a
position group or maybe even a particular player you'd like
the Saints to go after.
Speaker 4: I mean, man, they need everything, so you know, I
look everywhere. You know, there's a quarterback that I think
maybe like like in the very late rounds, Deckers Iowa State,
he got hoought for gamble and had to go to Juco.
I think he's somebody that's kind of interesting. I think
I think he's got some some traits that are that
are pretty good. But you know, I just think I
think they could just do anything at any pick. And
you know, there's not there's not a single spot on
the steam where you're like, no, they don't need a
player there to start yeah, I mean I'm trying to
take a one right now, maybe linebacker, Like linebacker might
be a little a little bold, but I think you
could still add one for depth. But I think they
just need to I think they can really go bta
it in there any spot in the draft and you know,
be be good like I don't. I don't think you
have to really kind of single anything out like I'm
I kind of I kind of like that for him,
but it's also a bad place to be that you
can justify that in pretty much any spot. But yeah,
I think they could do anything and it wouldn't be
a surprise.
Speaker 1: Nick.
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring this up and ask you this.
I brought it up a little bit earlier on the show.
You know, there was a report that came out that
a reporter put out that, oh, the Saints might cut
Tyron Matthew and then Tyron said no. I wanted to
get your thoughts on that. What do you think Tyron
Matthew's future is with the Saints this season?
Speaker 2: And then after.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. I mean, you know, there's different people
in the building now, so you know, it might just
take one department that a different opinion. To kind of
kind of sway a decision. So I don't I don't
want to say anything like definitive, but you know, from
the questions I've been asking, and I was asking these
questions this week before it even came out, like the
feeling I got is that he was going to be
on the team, But I don't. I can't say that
is definitively as I you know, we just haven't seen
these people work like I've never seen Brandon Saley make
a decision before, so it's kind of even a little
bit harder to anticipate that. But you know, I kind
of I kind of think he's going to be on
the team, you know, but I think they're in a
place where where anything could happen, and you know, they
do need to get younger at some point. And if
he's on the team this year, like I do, I
didn't that there's probably a you know, I need to
show vast improvement as a team overall to continue to
say the course beyond you know, this season. If they're
trying to win again this year, and it sounds like
they are, if they fail at that mission, you know,
I think you you really got to get younger in
hurry if if you win a bunch of games in
surprise people, you know, I think kind of trying to
keep together. But look, he's startedly reaching a point too
in his career where you know, it's it's there's a
couple of years left on the clock. So I don't
think it's like, you know, there's a wide swath of
runway there left. But I think Kyron probably has about
two three years left to him, you know, I think
that's how long he wants to play. I think I've
heard him say that before. And you know, I think,
as you're trying to establish a culture and everything, I
got like that having him around makes a lot of sense.
But look, one of the things on my on my
draft list would be a safety. And I think one
of the benefits of taking a safety now is that
you get him in the building, you put him next
to Tyron Tires, can kind of show him how to
be a pro, how to take care of your body,
how to study out to prepare all this stuff. Like,
I don't think there's anybody on the team that you know,
does that stuff better than him. So I think he's
still a great asset in the locker room. And you
know I would be surprised, you know, just kind of
kind of the questions I was asking, like it just
kind of seemed like there was an opinion that he
was going to be on this team. But you know,
if you don't play a premium position and you know
you're making a little bit of money, like anything can happen.
Speaker 3: I guess that's kind of leads me right into my
next question as far as the safety position next you
with Tyron Matthew. I mean, obviously it's going to be
a high priority because you're thin there. But I mean,
do you think the Saints prefer maybe go get one
of the younger free agents that are going to be unrestricted,
or are they going to fill.
Speaker 2: That need in the draft.
Speaker 4: I think you've got to do both. I mean, they
don't really have anything there. Like I had to, I
would bring back Will Harris and then you know, try
to try to not one in the draft somewhere. You know,
one of Joseph Man. You look at what he did
at Texas, Like he took that secondary they were like
one of the worst secondaries in the league. And then
in like the sense of pass rating efficiency. By his
last year at Texas, they were second. I mean, like,
so they've done a really good job of getting players there,
developing them, making them better. So yeah, I mean I
definitely think you need to do both. So like it
hasn't quite worked out. Is helped with Jordan Howden, Like,
I don't think he's he's kind of ready to be
leaned upon, you know, somebody year depending on to play
a lot of maybe maybe you develops improves you on there.
But yeah, I think I think it's somewhere they got
a double dip for sure. Hey, it's definitely a position
on needs to be rebuilt.
Speaker 3: Nick Underhill of New Orleans Dot Football good enough to
join us every single day, every single Tuesday at nine am, Nick,
thank you so much for hopping on man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks having me.
Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely that was Nick Underhill of New Orleans Dot Football.
We're gonna take a time out when we get back.
Funny story coming out of the NBA involving the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that.
Speaker 3: We'll also look at some of the standings pecking order.
Obviously the New Orleans Saints are close to the bottom
of that. Where may they sit in that draft lottery?
What are their chances of getting that number one pick
that's coming up on the other side you're on.
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Speaker 3: I want to pull a T Bob and just like
let the whole song play it. Just just play the
air guitar while the song plays.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if like, because that was like
during the summer, so I don't here. Yeah, I've been
here like a few months. So I don't know if
T Bob knew me well enough to know that I
was secretly freaking the out while he was letting that happen.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was a holiday.
Speaker 1: I started to turn it down and he said, don't
get scared.
Speaker 6: Turn it out.
Speaker 2: It was a holiday.
Speaker 3: Jake wasn't here, so Team Bob probably didn't care one
way or the other.
Speaker 1: He stays giving me heart attacks.
Speaker 2: All right. It teas it a little bit going in
a break.
Speaker 3: Funny story coming out of an NBA team, and it
happens to be the Dallas Mavericks. On Monday, the Mavericks
revealed that they are raising season ticket prices for next year.
The prices will go up about nine percent next season
and the increase is due to ongoing investments into the
team and increased fan engagement. What are you investing into
the team. You just got rid of a top five
player in the NBA who's only twenty five years old, who,
by the way, is thriving with the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that a little bit later. Look, they
said that.
Speaker 3: If you're in club level, your tickets are gonna rise
more than ten percent this year for season ticket holders.
As far as uh compared to last year, terrorist levels
are gonna go up twenty bucks to twenty four dollars
per game. And this is all to apparently future investments
into the franchise. Forget the fact that you traded away
your entire franchise. What did you get back? You got
an Anthony Davis in return, who had a good first
game with you. He dropped twenty six points. And what
did Anthony Davis do after that? Well, he did when
Anthony Davis does. He got hurt, he had a growing
injury left and he really hadn't played much since. And
when you look at the NBA standings at the time
Luka Doncic was traded, the Mavericks were hovering on that
seven to eight line. I mean way, they were right
there in the thick of it. As far as playoff contention. Now,
the Dallas Mavericks sit at the ten spot thirty two
and thirty, so just two games over five hundred. In
their last ten games, they are five and five. Jordan
mentioned daring Break that the Pelicans will take on the
Los Angeles Lakers tonight, and uh, that's bad news for
the Pelicans.
Speaker 2: Why, oh, it's good news. Great, Okay, we'll get there.
Speaker 3: The reason is is because when you give Lebron James
arguably the best player in the NBA, yeah, good things
are gonna happen. If you look at the Western Conference
standing right now, Look, it's OKC, far and away. They're
fifty and eleven right now. They're having an incredible season.
Shake Gil just Alexander is probably going to run away
with the MVP. He dropped another fifty burger last night.
The Los Angeles Lakers are sitting in the two spot
right now because they have the tiebreaker over the Denver Nuggets.
They're thirty eight and twenty one. They are eight and
two in their last ten games. It took Luca a
little while to get going, but guess what he's in
playoff for him already. Lebron James his numbers this year
twenty six and a half points, eight point one rebounds,
eight point three assists. That is better than in twenty
thirteen when he won the MVP Award with the Miami Heat,
he averaged about the same number of points, about a
rebound and a half less per game, and a total
assist less per game. Lebron James right now is playing
better at the age of forty than he was in
his MVP season back in twenty thirteen with the Miami Heat,
and he has a top five player on his team
as his wingman in Luka Doncic, and the Mavericks are
gonna sit there and be like, guys, we're investing into
the future of this franchise. We want fan engagement to
come back. Oh why did fan engagement leaving in yet?
Because you got rid of Luka Doncic. Look when you
look at the Western Conference standings, it's a hiye opening.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the Pelicans are terrible. We got that.
Speaker 3: We'll get into them in just a second. But the
Lakers have a complete turnaround. I mean they were almost
out of the playoff. They were about the seven spots.
I mean they were they were kind of right there
with the Mavericks. They have exploded the last few games.
They were on a six game a winning streak again,
eight and two in their last six games. They're not
slowing down. Do I think the Lakers can make it
to the NBA Finals, No, I do not. Here's why
they don't have quite the firepower top to bottom roster
out in Oklahoma, said he Thunderdo. The thunder are also
a lot younger, even with Luka Doncic. Also, if they
take on the Denver Nuggets, they don't have that post player.
Remember they tried to trade for Mark Williams. Mark Williams
did not pass is physical, so the Lakers renigged on
that trade. If they had Mark Williams, a post player,
a dominant guy down low, I would feel completely different
about this team.
Speaker 2: They don't have that.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jackson Hayes right now is still your primary
post player. If Jackson Hayes is your primary post player,
you don't have a post player. I don't think the
Lakers can win it. But look the turnaround they have made.
The trade they were able to dish out to get
Luka Doci from the Dallas Mavericks, the fact that they're
the two seed in the Western Conference, the fact that
they've won six games in a row. That's impressive, nonetheless,
and it just goes to show the incompetence of the
Dallas Mavericks because I mentioned that they were five and
five in their last ten games. They're on a two
game losing streak. They don't really have any signs of live.
Anthony Davis is in and out of the lineup. Kyrie
Irvan is carrying this entire team, and the Mavericks have
the audacity to be like, well, yeah, they going there,
you go and then and then you know, Anthony Davis,
he's still in and out of the lineup, and you're
gonna have the audacity to be like, guys, we have
to have a nine percent ticket increase. I mean, you
want us to invest in the future of the franchise.
We don't any star players the future of the franchise
for the next ten years. Kankis is twenty five years old,
and you're gonna go.
Speaker 2: To his fans fat. No, he's not fat, That's just
what he looks like.
Speaker 3: He's looked like that his entire career. I make fun
of Zion Williams.
Speaker 2: And all the time. I get it.
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of Zion to make fun of
him all the time. Zion's dropped like twenty pounds since
the start of the season.
Speaker 2: Get this way.
Speaker 3: He still looks big though. That's just how he looks.
Lukadancich isn't fat either. Luca's going out there dropping triple doubles.
You gotta be in shape to do this. The Mavericks
are slapping their fan base in the face, just saying, hey,
we gotta increase prices. We want you guys to come back.
We want to increase fan engagement.
Speaker 2: You had it.
Speaker 3: You were a team that made it to the NBA
Finals a year ago. You were two games away from
winning the damn thing. You had the future of the league.
You had a top five player who was in his
physical He was twenty four years old last season. He's
sitting there at twenty five, and you got rid of
him for Anthony Davis and Max Christy. Are you kidding
me right now? And you're gonna increase ticket prices by
ten percent? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: You're forgetting the twenty twenty nine draft picks.
Speaker 2: You're right, I apologize.
Speaker 3: They have a draft pick four years from now that
I'm sure is going to turn out to be like
an average NBA player in the future. You're absolutely right.
My apologies, maybe Nico Harrison doesn't know what he's doing,
and then you're gonna raise ticket prices for franchise investment
and fan engagement, which you already had both of these things. No,
this is an awful look for the Dallas Mavericks, it's
awful for the NBA, and the Los Angeles Lakers pulled
a highway robbery on this again. They sit there at
the two seed in the Western Conference. Jordan, You're New
Orleans Pelicans sit there at the fifteen seed.
Speaker 2: They are. Don't worry.
Speaker 3: They're only thirty three games back from the Oklahoma City
Thunder for the number one spot. So bang up job
by them as well. A Landras San Antonio Spurs sit
down a bird paths, which, golly, there's a big gap
between the Spurs and the Pelicans. Yeah, it was an
eight game difference between that one spot. Guys, I watched
two basketball games last night, one of which was Houston
and Kansas. It was a phenomenal game. He used to
couper is one of the best teams in college basketball.
The other game I watched was the Duga Blue Devils
against the wake Forest Demon Deacons. And I'm not one
for hyperbole, but at least in the past ten years,
Cooper Flag might be the best college basketball player I
have seen. He's six', nine he can run the, floor
he can be your primary ball. Handler he's one of
the best passers on the. Court he hit a step
back three in a guy's face two different times last.
Night and you, know he was just kind of toy
on with Wake. Forest in the first half he had ten.
Points he finished with twenty, eight and that's because they
pulled him off the court with about four and a
half minutes to. Go he could have had over. Thirty no.
Problem whoever gets the number one pick in THIS Nba
draft lottery is going to have a franchise changing.
Speaker 2: Player The Utah.
Speaker 3: Jazz The Utah jazz right now have the best odds
to do. So, yeah and they're doing the most obvious tank.
Job you go look at their injury report any given.
Game clarkson's, out any any of, these any of these
played The pelicans On, sunday and it's always like they're
out with an. Illness they're day to. Day they're a
game time. Decision they're not even telling you what's wrong
with these. Guys it'll work out if they Get Cooper
flag because he is legit would he be great with The. Pelicans,
yeah BUT i mean The pelicans have had the number
one pick two different times and it didn't work out either.
TIME i don't want to do this Because i'm over, There.
Speaker 1: Cooper, Flag Cooper flag on the.
Speaker 3: Sands crazier things happened to odds, Wise just let me
give you a.
Speaker 2: Potential i'm up, here, Okay, castle AND i don't CARE
ifo play center, center doesn't.
Speaker 3: Matter you're gonna have a backcourt of The Aaron fox
And Stefan castle.
Speaker 1: Up.
Speaker 2: Front wemby can play, wherever one of the best guys
at the four to five.
Speaker 3: Wherever you're gonna Have Cooper, flag who's one of the
best all around players in college. Basketball right, now you
went In Jeremy sohan coming off of the, bench which
he needs to.
Speaker 1: Be, actually now that we're, tanking he needs to stay
on the.
Speaker 2: Bench. Okay so a lot of TIMES i just to
look at it Like.
Speaker 1: Mice johnson is like really mismanaging this roster really. Terribly
and it was before the whole tank. Thing so, ANYWAYS i.
Speaker 3: Kind of look at it, though LIKE i don't necessarily
hate when a player like so hands on the bench
just because if you're making a mass, substitution kind of
look at it like a line change in. Hockey so
hands the leader of that two, group whether he's in
the starting, lineup whether he's, in he plays a ton of.
Minutes it could. Be that's What i'm. Saying The spurs have.
Options they're a player. Away are The pelicans as a player?
Speaker 2: Away? No DO i want The pelicans to have the
number one overall? PICK i. DO i gotta be, HONEST
i don't know how much it's going to.
Speaker 5: Matter.
Speaker 2: JORDAN i literally said the number one pick is going
to The. Jazz, no it.
Speaker 6: Will i'm not even fixing my LIKE i SAID i
do The pelicans P i'm not even fixing my. Eyes
the immediate fix for The pelicans Is Dylan. Harper you
don't have a point. Guard Doesante murray's?
Speaker 2: Out dylan is a great, Player dylan flag.
Speaker 6: Like he would be, great but that's not really what
we need at the. Moment we needed point. Guard our
point guard is going to be out till twenty twenty.
Six it's the beginning of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Five, look we're gonna we're gonna see what happens with.
This look he's going To Salt Lake. City he's going
to be number one.
Speaker 3: PICK i took time to watch his first game Of Duke, okay,
LIKE i was, like let me make SURE i watched,
this and he was, good but he had times he
looked like a freshman playing in his first game. HOME
i had the evening, OFF i was, Like duke Wake
forest was coming back. ON i was, Like i'm going
to make it a point to sit down and this entire.
Game he's better than EVEN i thought he. Was he
is a, phenomenal phenomenal player against the number one pick
is going to have a franchise changing. Player all, right,
look we got to take a quick time out on
the other side of the, THING nfl little SEGMENT i
want to hit here real. Quick, look everyone says Cam
ward is going to be the number one pick in this,
draft the number one quarterback off the. Board if he's
not number, one Is shoud Or sanders STILL qb. Two
we'll get into that coming up here On off the.
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Speaker 3: Com welcome back into all the. LIFE i don't know
what SONG i was, expected he just wasn't this. ONE
i don't know why it was? Funny all, right welcome
back in to off the. Bench, look THE Nfl draft
is coming, up and whether he's the first overall pick
or a second, third, whatever it doesn't really matter where
he's going to be. Drafted every SINGLE NFL gm is
now bananas over Cam. Ward they think Cam ward's going
to be the number one quarterback taken in THIS nfl.
Draft and for a lot of times it seemed, like,
okay there's a clear one in, two, right it's Cam
woard number, One Shador sanders number.
Speaker 2: Two they may not be the case.
Speaker 3: Anymore report came out that it looks like NOW Cbo
sports put this out that some gms believe that as
far as big, Boards Shador sanders could be the twenty
fourth best player in this draft is what they. Believe
now some people still have him as the number two.
Quarterback two things, Here, one how far Will shoud Or sanders? Fault, because,
okay some are saying It's Abdul carter number. One some
are saying The giants are going to trade with The
titans to get the number one pick and take Cam.
Ward Abdul carter is going to be in there in
the top. Five Travis hunter is going to be in
there in the top. Five Shador sanders has been linked
to The raiders for quite some time. Now but what
if they pass at six or what if they trade?
Down how far could Shad Or sanders'? Fault, now you
just Heard nick a minute ago talking about If Shadoor
sanders is there when The saints, pick he doesn't believe
they're going to take. HIM i don't believe they're going
to take him. Either but beyond, that not just how
far will Shad Or sanders fall in this? Draft Is
Shaudor sanders STILL qb? Two all the rage this weekend
was About Jackson. Dart he had an excellent combine and,
honestly there's people that believe he could BE qb. TWO
i was a little hesitant on, this but when you
look at the, resume it kind of makes.
Speaker 2: SENSE i, Mean.
Speaker 3: Dart was a three year starter in THE. Sec he
played in a lot of big. Games, now if you
go back and look at those big, games there was
mixed performances in, there to say the least For Jackson.
Dark but, look he's played in an elite conference against
a lot of elite defenses he's played in big time.
Games not only did he improve as a passer every single,
year he's also the more mobile of the two between
him And Shador. Sanders so if you're looking for a mobile,
quarterback not that Cam ward is. Either camward's not necessarily
a mobile. Quarterback but, okay if you go look at
what he did running, wise in twenty twenty, four he
had four hundred ninety five yards, rushing not only three rushing,
touchdowns but in twenty twenty three another four hundred yards,
rushing eight rushing. Touchdowns jackson dark can take off and.
Run THE nfl game is going more and more towards.
That you're seeing. THAT i, mean look at the Philadelph
eagles are a prime. Example they just won The Super
bowl With Jalen hurts as their starting. Quarterback, Also Shador
sanders has good, numbers but look at What Jackson dard
did his first year At Old. Miss twenty nine hundred,
yards twenty, touchdowns eleven, picks kind of an average. Season
in twenty twenty, three he improved his completion percentage by
three whole percentage points thirty three hundred, yards twenty three,
touchdowns five, picks and again he had the eight touchdowns
to go along with it as.
Speaker 2: Well through thirty one total touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Last, year sixty nine point three percent completion percentage forty
two hundred, yards twenty nine, touchdowns six. Interceptions Jackson dart
has gotten better in every aspect of the quarterback position
for three years in a. Row, now, now how much
of that is Laying kiffin's.
Speaker 2: Offense it's very.
Speaker 3: Quarterback but when you go look At Jackson dart, again
he's been in a lot of big. Games this is
Not Shadoor sanders's fault because, look when you look At
shador's raw, numbers they're very.
Speaker 2: Good his first year At colorado.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty, three sixty nine percent, completion twenty seven, touchdowns three.
Picks last year he had ten, picks but they threw
the ball a whole lot. More seventy four percent completion
percentage forty one hundred yards For Shoudoor, sanders thirty seven.
Touchdowns So shador had a really good year in his own.
Right the issue, is and again this is Not Shoudoor sanders's.
FAULT i mentioned all the great defenses That Jackson dart,
played all the big time games he's played In Shodowarck
sanders hasn't really played in a big game. Now in
twenty twenty, three he played some good, teams BUT i
mean they weren't ready to. Compete in twenty twenty, Three
oregon blew the doors off of. Them you, know same
thing With washington all. That in terms of big, time
down to the wire, games there wasn't a. TON i,
mean they Beat baylor early in the, year but That baylor,
TEAM i, mean you, know they were kind of a
middle of the road.
Speaker 2: TEAM lsu saw him in the bowl. Game they're, fine but.
Speaker 3: That might be the biggest game That Shador sanders played
in in twenty twenty. Four, again it's not his, fault
but when you're drafting a guy that, high you gotta
make sure that he can perform when the lights come.
On shoudor put up the. NUMBERS i just don't know
how good the defenses were did he? Faced and, honestly
to that, point should Cam ward be? First BECAUSE i
gotta be, honest IF i was drafting between Cam ward
And Shador, Sanders i'm probably Taking Shador. SANDERS i just
think he looked a little bit better in. College now
he held onto the ball too. Long but you could
honestly say all the critiques you, hear and all the
CRITICISMS i just made about Shaduor, sanders you can kind
of say the same thing about Cam.
Speaker 2: WARD i don't think.
Speaker 3: There's a bona fide number one player as far as
the quarterback, Position But jackson darts. Rising shador seems to
be falling a little. Bit we'll see what happens with Cam.
Ward because a lot of people, believe, Oh shadoor and
Cam ward are both bona fide top five. Picks that
may not be the. Case we'll have to see when
THE Nfl draft rolls. Around all, right, look we're going
to take our final time out of This tuesday edition
Of off The.
Speaker 2: Bench we get. Back we're gonna close it out like
we do every, day with some mass the.
Speaker 3: Bench off The, Bench welcome in to the best morning
sports this show Around off The bench With esther AND T.
Bob welcome back into the final segment of A tuesday
edition Of off The. Bench, guys we have had a
heck of a busy show. TODAY i mean we were
wall to wall sports for the most. Part Oh Elidra,
jordan where did the First Marty Girl parade take Place Mobile.
Speaker 2: Alabama, jordan what's your? Answer Mobile? Alabama the answer IS
i can do. It It's Mobile.
Speaker 3: Alabama so you know the tiff Between mobile And New
orleans on who Created marty Gral the reality is it
doesn't matter because if you're In New orleans you do
it so much better, Anyway so does it does it really?
Speaker 6: Matter i've never heard nobody be, Like i'm going To
mobile For Marti, Gras SO i, mean that's, cool.
Speaker 2: Y'all you'll have.
Speaker 3: Y'ALL i actually accidentally went To mobile For Morti graul one.
TIME i we would just take it a beach trip
because you're the accident. Though so if you're In, louisia, yeah,
WELL i mean we. Were we had to drive Through. Nobile,
yeah she got some O K Marty girl for. Now
it's not On New orleans this.
Speaker 2: Level but they. Don't they're. Not they're not too. Bad.
Speaker 3: Okay, look closing out the, show as we do every,
day with a little ask the, Bench ask the. Bench
if you were A Marty girl, float how would you be?
Speaker 6: Decorated well that's a good, question, MAN i don't, know
DAMN i would BE i have like a big baby on,
it just a big black baby what a with like
some liquor in his, hand like for the, bottle like
we are turned with some, chains put.
Speaker 2: Some chains on the.
Speaker 6: Baby baby just just really, said, nigh it really significant
you whatever the Word i'm looking, for it's it's just
gonna really put tides all, together like when you find
a baby in The. Kingcake so, yeah so we just
a big black baby night with a with a like
A gucci diaper on. Them, yeah just just as WHAT
i on. It and then like everybody's gotta were yeah
and everybody like the the bees are, thrown they got
like little pacifiers on.
Speaker 2: Him. Yeah i'm just gonna be a giant king cake
cowboll Staff yeah, yeah, YEAH i.
Speaker 3: Wanted to do something kind of out there in a little.
While jordan got plenty wild for all of. Us, Lord
i'm just gonna be a giant king. Cake and what
Else i'm going to do is uh quickly move on
to our ask the bench, Question, uh ask the? Bench
anyone watching t bob On Jim, ROME i actually personally
have not a couple of TIMES i saw his, open
which was the most t bup Thing i've ever, seen
so if you haven't seen, it we actually played it
On friday After.
Speaker 2: Tea bob had to dip out a little bit.
Speaker 3: Early Jim ram's introducing, him and you, know Te BOP's, like,
OH i don't know WHETHER i should play it cool
or or WHETHER i should make a big. Splash our
guy definitely definitely made a big. Splash he stands, up
has a shirt With chewbacca.
Speaker 2: On, it of, course just.
Speaker 3: Screams The chewbacca noise that was his first intro to
the world on the Gym Rum.
Speaker 2: Show.
Speaker 3: Guys T bob is uniquely him no matter where he.
IS i, think like that's like the thing THAT i
love ABOUT T bob the. Most he didn't care where he's.
At he doesn't care who he's. With he's gonna be
T Bob ayby and he's gonna have himself aheack of a.
Speaker 6: Time, YEAH i will say, THIS i Love Ta, bob
BUT i am extreme hater Of disney. ADULTS i Think
disney adults need to just go into a cave and
set it a.
Speaker 1: Blaze see and you can feel that, way but why
not just let them do?
Speaker 6: Them but respect they can't do? Them, Okay i'll say, This,
ELIA i have the issue with The disney. Adults that's
like pulling the little kids in the, line, like oh
we got fast.
Speaker 2: Passes like, dude relax, man like you never see.
Speaker 6: Anybody oh they're. Wow they get, physical they'll get. Physical
they're not scared of. Confrontation if you're willing to go.
Outside If Mickey mouse, shorts it's scared of no confrontation
on his.
Speaker 2: PLANET i don't actually disagree with.
Speaker 3: You oh we gotta we gotta guy About, yeah what About?
Speaker 2: Patrick Patrick Starr.
Speaker 3: Iaga asked the, bench how much do you guys Miss
tea And?
Speaker 1: Jake, okay so we all know, That LIKE i obviously
love y'all more than y'all love. ME i miss them so.
MUCH i was just In New, york so LIKE i
only got them for like two, days and THEN T
bob only got him for like a day and a
half because he left. Early and now they're gonna be
gone for a. Week SO i miss them very. MUCH
i actually have grown way too attached to all of.
Speaker 2: Y'ALL i Miss. JAKE i get fomo When i'm.
Speaker 6: Gone T bob harasses. Me but Like, Jake me And
jake missed the. Eighteen you, know we just keep it,
real real.
Speaker 1: COOL i will say WHEN i was In nashville doing
THE cmas THAT T bob texted the group chat a
couple of times like a laundro can you please get back?
Already and that warns my heart BECAUSE i feel like
y'all don't care When i'm.
Speaker 3: GONE i think everybody should look be allowed to take
off when you whenever you.
Speaker 2: Can, YEAH i love. It, LOOK i.
Speaker 3: DON'T i don't Mind philly and then it is a
lot of, work but you like it. THOUGH i enjoy, It, YEAH.
Speaker 2: I MEAN i. DO i love. It AM i ready
for him to get? Back?
Speaker 3: Yeah probably just Because i've only because LIKE i enjoy doing.
Speaker 2: THIS i like the show dynamic that we.
Speaker 3: Have, yeah because, honestly like, look Like jordan's, said are
the y'all?
Speaker 2: Got y'all may think that me AND T bob are
at odds a little.
Speaker 3: BIT i believe That jake and A landra are very,
similar and maybe not the things we're. Into, like you,
Know i'm more all sports all the. Time T bub's
more lord of the. RINGS i think me AND T
bob are a little, similar AND i Think alandra And
jake are very. SIMILAR i think that that dynamic works well.
Together we all know how to play off of each,
other and a lot of times.
Speaker 2: Four voices can be a lot on the.
Speaker 3: RADIO i mean every now and then you'll turn on
a show and you just see a bunch of people
talk and you don't really know who they, are you
don't really know what they're. Saying this is the most
crowded show ON espn because it's the only show where
we have daily co. HOST i think we do a
really good job at. That so, YEAH i actually. DO
i actually, do. Missim i'm ready for them to give,
back all, Right, look that's going to do it for
A tuesday edition Of off The bench Jam Pack. Show, Today,
look we led WITH lsu spring. Football want to kind
of break down a position every day for the remainder
of the. Week we'll do one per. Show Jas lesheron
Of Gridiron football came. On he gave me his thoughts
OF lsu spring practice as they opened things up On.
Saturday talked a lot of new oral And, saints whether
it's the future Of Tyron, matthews the possible safeties you
can bring. In Nick underhill hopped, on talked about their
first round. Picks nick's kind of set on whether It's
Ashing genty Or Tyler. Warren it might surprise a lot of,
people but, HEY i mean they're both heaving. Players, anyways
talked to a LITTLE, nva even SOME lsu basketball AND
lsu baseball thrown in.
Speaker 2: There, Look i'm in for the remainder of the.
Speaker 5: Week.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, look we're going to recap AN lsu baseball. Game
if there's a baseball game to be, Had i'm SURE
i will be regrettably recapping ANOTHER lsu basketball. Game we're
going to continue our discussions threat ON lsu. Football, obviously
we're gonna do more and more combine. Stuff i'm gonna
give you my winners and losers of THE nfl. Combine
we'll have all of that and a whole lot. More,
again want to Thank Jas legerne And Nick underhill for
hopping on. Today that's going to do it for us
here on off the.
Speaker 2: Bench we love you. Guys we'll see you tomorrow here
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