Speaker 1: This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to
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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the WWE podcast. This is the Bash
Speaker 2: in Berlin, official reaction and review show here on the
Speaker 2: ww podcast. As I said, and I don't know why
Speaker 2: I call it reaction, given that a review is a reaction.
Speaker 2: But let's move on before I embarrass myself further. We
Speaker 2: have a lot to talk about from this show. There's
Speaker 2: some things that happened that, you know, I think we're
Speaker 2: pretty predictable, but predictability is not a bad I think
Speaker 2: generally it was a pretty damn good wrestling show. They
Speaker 2: gave the stories time to breathe, and that's been Triple
Speaker 2: H's approach for ple since he took the reins, and
Speaker 2: I think generally it's been pretty damn good. Most of
Speaker 2: his ples have overachieved, and now we kind of know
Speaker 2: what we're going to get from him and his administration,
Speaker 2: so to speak. As we roll towards Bad Blood, which
Speaker 2: is October fifth, a month away, and lot to talk
Speaker 2: about for that pl as we get closer too, as
Speaker 2: we can see a lot of rivalries coming to a
Speaker 2: head at that ple given that once Survivors series takes
Speaker 2: place the following month, and if there's a Crown Jewel
Speaker 2: that usually resets things for Rumble season believe it or not, Yes,
Speaker 2: so Sarviber series is of course around the corner. But
Speaker 2: Bad Blood is going to wrap up. I think a
Speaker 2: couple of rivalries, particularly Drew mcintoyre and Seampunk in a
Speaker 2: likely rubber match, and then we have the Terror twins
Speaker 2: of Damian pre Sin, Rhea Ripley versus Live Morgan and
Speaker 2: Dominic Massio, but I think that one may be in
Speaker 2: a singles competition. As we head towards Bad Blood with
Speaker 2: likely Damian Priest versus Finn Balor, there's still some unresolved
Speaker 2: tension there. I mean, Finn Balor still hasn't gotten his
Speaker 2: receipt for what he did to Damian Priest at the
Speaker 2: last plee, costing him the world title, so hopefully they
Speaker 2: wrapped that up. But Rhea Ripley has got to get
Speaker 2: her hands on Dominic and as expected, we didn't see
Speaker 2: any any maneuvers, well offensive maneuvers towards any of the females,
Speaker 2: while the females are able to do whatever they want
Speaker 2: against the males because well reasons. So that ultimately wasn't
Speaker 2: a surprise. But we look forward to the Bashit or
Speaker 2: the Bad Blood event that's only a month away. But
Speaker 2: we're here to talk about bashon Berlin obviously, as it
Speaker 2: took place last night in Berlin. And let me just
Speaker 2: say one thing about the crowd, and a lot of
Speaker 2: you think I'm gonna complain about it, and I probably will.
Speaker 2: It wasn't as distracting as France. And when I just
Speaker 2: say distracting, that may many of you may take that
Speaker 2: as a compliment, especially if you're over in Germany. Many
Speaker 2: of you may take that as a compliment because you're
Speaker 2: loud and and that kind of thing. And it's about
Speaker 2: the number of decibels. They even have a decibel meter.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's a very fulfilling prophecy for WWE
Speaker 2: who just looks at the noise level and looks at
Speaker 2: that as a success. But the German crowd outside of
Speaker 2: there're one chant that they kept cheering. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is. I don't know what they were saying.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell it was. It had
Speaker 2: obviously nothing to do with wrestling, which you know me,
Speaker 2: it's I'm not a fan of that. I don't I
Speaker 2: honestly don't know how you go to an event and
Speaker 2: have the energy or the will to even chant that long,
Speaker 2: even if it was something I understood and liked, which
Speaker 2: is half the problem. But how does anyone go to
Speaker 2: an event? Maybe this is the United States mentality? Why
Speaker 2: would you want to go to an event and yell
Speaker 2: that long and chant the same chant forty seven times over?
Speaker 2: And I mean, what exactly is so important that you
Speaker 2: need to chant the same thing over and over? What
Speaker 2: was that? And honestly, the answer doesn't really matter because
Speaker 2: I don't care what it was. I really don't care.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me. I mean, it could have
Speaker 2: been anything from we Love Ourselves. It could have translated
Speaker 2: into we love ourselves, I love me, or the sky
Speaker 2: is blue, wrestling is cool. I don't care what it was.
Speaker 2: I don't understand that the will to even want to
Speaker 2: do that. But that could be coming from the United
Speaker 2: States mentality, where I go to an event and I
Speaker 2: cheer when I feel like it's necessary and that's the
Speaker 2: way it is. But WWE is taking a global approach
Speaker 2: here to their business growth, and I understand and appreciate that.
Speaker 2: But the crowd overall, I think they paid attention to
Speaker 2: the matches, unlike some previous pls and in countries overseas
Speaker 2: that have been more about just the noise level. For
Speaker 2: the sake of noise level, regardless of what's happening in
Speaker 2: the ring, we're just gonna talk talk amongst ourselves. This
Speaker 2: was a little bit more focused. The German crowd is
Speaker 2: seen to be a little bit more focused on what
Speaker 2: was going on in w and in the match itselves anyway,
Speaker 2: So that was good. So, you know, credit to the
Speaker 2: German crowd. Really mean, you guys brought the energy. I
Speaker 2: honestly have no idea how you even have that sustained
Speaker 2: energy that long I have, I don't understand it. But
Speaker 2: no credit to you guys. Yeah, you definitely made it loud.
Speaker 2: So now the other thing is for Germany. Because I
Speaker 2: said my piece about the crowd, I hope you guys
Speaker 2: are you know, taking a look at your wallets this morning,
Speaker 2: because I bet you're a little bit a little bit lighter.
Speaker 2: Your bank accounts are hurting a little bit more because
Speaker 2: WWE was very proud of the fact that they were
Speaker 2: able to announce that Bash in Berlin was the highest
Speaker 2: grossing arena show in WWE history. In fact, don't hear
Speaker 2: from me, hear from WWE during the event. Here you go,
Speaker 2: the highest show.
Speaker 4: Scene arena show in w WE history.
Speaker 2: Anywhere.
Speaker 1: They're at fash in Berlin. They would write, buss love them.
Speaker 2: So Michael Cole and I'll get to another thing he
Speaker 2: said during the show, all right, which is just it's
Speaker 2: it was something that I normally don't hear from Cole,
Speaker 2: and I'll get to that in a minute. With the
Speaker 2: tag team match between Dom and Live versus Rhea and
Speaker 2: Damian Priest, We'll get to that in a second. But
Speaker 2: the crowd, though, cheered for losing their own money, for
Speaker 2: shelling out the most money of any arena crowd in
Speaker 2: WWE history, because they had somebody come out I don't
Speaker 2: know his name and speaking German to say you basically
Speaker 2: that you guys are the highest grossing out in ww history.
Speaker 2: Why are they cheering for that? I understand if you're
Speaker 2: talented talking about attendance records, right, that makes sense. Cool.
Speaker 2: I'm part of the biggest crowd ever be here. Why
Speaker 2: are you in the middle of the show? Also telling
Speaker 2: the crowd that you are part of the most money
Speaker 2: we've ever been able to take from fans at a
Speaker 2: single arena event in our company's history. Thanks for your cash, guys.
Speaker 2: This essentially what they're saying. That's just no shame. And hey,
Speaker 2: I've been sitting on this show saying this company is
Speaker 2: a for profit. They are Their first and foremost priority
Speaker 2: is to make money, regardless of how people view that.
Speaker 2: That is how they survive as this as an organization.
Speaker 2: But the fact that they don't hide this, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is stuff that you discuss or release in a
Speaker 2: press conference or rather an earnings call, I should say,
Speaker 2: an earnings call quarterly. You don't talk about it in
Speaker 2: the middle of a show. I mean, no one seems
Speaker 2: to care. No one's talking about it, no one is
Speaker 2: making a big deal about it. I'm I personally have
Speaker 2: no dog in the hunt. I didn't spend a dime
Speaker 2: going there. Tickets must have been absolutely insane. If somebody
Speaker 2: went to the event, I'd love to hear from you
Speaker 2: over in Germany. I know we got some of you
Speaker 2: out there that listen in Germany, if you went, or
Speaker 2: you know someone that went, or you know how much
Speaker 2: ticket prices were, let me know. I'll translate them into
Speaker 2: US dollars. Okay, what the hell were they charging over there?
Speaker 2: Did they charge you for the air to breathe by
Speaker 2: the minute, did they charge you to go to the bathroom?
Speaker 2: I mean, what were they doing? That's that's a that's
Speaker 2: it is an impressive feed. But from simply a greed standpoint,
Speaker 2: that's an impressive feed. But if you're part of that
Speaker 2: the company or part of the fans space sitting there,
Speaker 2: you must be like, yay, wait, they're talking about how
Speaker 2: much money they just took from us? Boo. You know,
Speaker 2: of course everyone there is voluntarily there, no one was
Speaker 2: forced to be there. But still not something that you
Speaker 2: usually hear from a company. You'll hear that in MLB,
Speaker 2: like sometimes you may hear about the stadium attendance records
Speaker 2: or consistent sellouts or whatever, and the people cheer for
Speaker 2: that because oh we're wow, we're a part of this.
Speaker 2: You know, go go us. But at any event across
Speaker 2: the world and tell me about football over in you know,
Speaker 2: in the UK, which is i e. Soccer here in
Speaker 2: the United States. Whatever. Tell me if they've ever announced. Hey, now,
Speaker 2: thanks guys, thanks, we just made the most money we've
Speaker 2: ever made from a single event. Did the Yay? I
Speaker 2: don't know. Okay, I'm moving on. I'm moving on to
Speaker 2: promise some of us say. He spent ten minutes talking
Speaker 2: about them, you know, not even the show, but talking
Speaker 2: about a stupid comment made. All right, well, let's move
Speaker 2: on again. I'll get to the other Cole thing in
Speaker 2: a minute, which is just it sounds so ridiculous. I'll
Speaker 2: let you listen to it a minute. I'll have another
Speaker 2: sound bite for you. But I got to take a
Speaker 2: breath between my complaints, so I don't get so many
Speaker 2: one star reviews. Let's get to it, all right, Let's
Speaker 2: talk about Kevin Owens Cody Rhoads. They opened the show
Speaker 2: for the Undisputed Championship, and both competitors got a very
Speaker 2: positive reaction. There wasn't really a ton of booing. In fact,
Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of booing going on at all.
Speaker 2: There was some some booing, I mean, Dominic Mysterio got
Speaker 2: some booze, but generally this crowd was so amped up
Speaker 2: to be there, they didn't really boo anybody. And I
Speaker 2: had that feeling they wouldn't do that too much because
Speaker 2: there's I mean, this is an event that's unprecedented for
Speaker 2: our you know, a lot of people's lifetimes. A pl
Speaker 2: coming to Germany is it's you know, what been twenty
Speaker 2: years whatever. But Michael Cole also pointed out a stat
Speaker 2: to his credit that it's been seven years since Kevin
Speaker 2: Owens has held singles gold in the company. That's wild,
Speaker 2: also alarming, And if I'm Kevin Owens, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not everything, but you've been a major player in
Speaker 2: the company for how long and yet they haven't put
Speaker 2: gold on you in three quarters of a decade. That's insane. However,
Speaker 2: Kevin Owens is in the main event here, or excuse me,
Speaker 2: a main event, even though it opens the show, and
Speaker 2: the second you saw it open the show for anyone
Speaker 2: that even had a for those outlier fans that thought
Speaker 2: they were going to be smarter than everybody else and thought, hey,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, maybe there's a chance, maybe there's a
Speaker 2: chance Kevin Owens could win here. The moment that you
Speaker 2: saw this match open the show, you must have been like, crap, crap, right,
Speaker 2: there's no chance opening the show, this match, opening the show,
Speaker 2: that you're going to have a title change, but that's
Speaker 2: not the story here, and most people going into this said, Okay, look,
Speaker 2: Kevin Owens has no chance. Unfortunately, that's been the approach
Speaker 2: going into almost every Kevin Owens world title especially when
Speaker 2: he faced Roman Reigns during the early parts of the
Speaker 2: early years of his run. The story really was more
Speaker 2: about is Kevin Owen's going to turn heels? What's up
Speaker 2: with this leg is? Were we going to see the
Speaker 2: old Kevin Owens? That's the story. That's what made this
Speaker 2: match interesting. Yes, both are world class workers. You knew
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a bustass match. That that, of course
Speaker 2: is I hate to say a given, but with these
Speaker 2: two talents you kind of know it is. But the
Speaker 2: story was more about the Kevin Owens character than it
Speaker 2: ever was about match quality or if there's any chance
Speaker 2: Kevin Owens could win. Those are totally irrelevant in this story.
Speaker 2: If you were a wrestling fan for any amount of time,
Speaker 2: so you got a lot of teases throughout this match,
Speaker 2: just Kevin Owens gonna resort back? Is he going to
Speaker 2: do the buckle or the ring apron power bomb, and
Speaker 2: he almost did it to Cody. Is he gonna attack
Speaker 2: the knee of Cody? And he did at once he
Speaker 2: was pushed to do so he did. And you're wondering,
Speaker 2: after Kevin Owens loses, okay, is he going to turn
Speaker 2: a heel here stunner? What are we doing? You know?
Speaker 2: And he didn't. He didn't. Same with Randy Orton, and
Speaker 2: we'll get to his match with Gunther for the actual
Speaker 2: Maine event. They didn't do it, and so there's no
Speaker 2: This kind of continues the trend of ples overseas that
Speaker 2: have great wrestling but very little story progression like actual turns, returns.
Speaker 2: That has not been the approach for a lot of
Speaker 2: these ples. In France and Germany and Australia, it's been
Speaker 2: typically just, hey, here's five great matches, give us a
Speaker 2: boatload of money. You can go enjoy it. But you
Speaker 2: know what, sometimes watching pro wrestling for just great wrestling
Speaker 2: matches isn't the worst thing in the world. In fact,
Speaker 2: I would argue sometimes that's what most of us want. Yes,
Speaker 2: storytelling overall is important, but sometimes you can have a
Speaker 2: story told in the ring. We forget that that Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's not just about the over arching story, but also
Speaker 2: what's happening in the ring, allowing the wrestlers to do
Speaker 2: what they do best, and that's what we get under
Speaker 2: the Triple H regime thus far, specifically for these overseas events.
Speaker 2: And now it looks like the next event is solo
Speaker 2: Soca versus maybe Roman reigns versus Cody in a three way,
Speaker 2: or it could be just be Solo versus Cody, or
Speaker 2: it could just be Solo versus Roman in some way.
Speaker 2: Bad Blood's going to be a bigger event in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways than Bash in Berlin was, And there's
Speaker 2: a lot more to be told with this bloodline story,
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be obviously much bigger
Speaker 2: event when if you're looking for progression and story returns,
Speaker 2: big moments, that thing, that kind of stuff you're looking at.
Speaker 2: Bad Bad Blood, one that I a pl that I
Speaker 2: hold near and dear to my heart from nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: seven has a knew many I know many of you
Speaker 2: who have been long time per wrestling WWE specific fans,
Speaker 2: But okay, talk about Rhea Ripley dom Live priest. All right,
Speaker 2: this matchup was I thought really good, but before the match,
Speaker 2: I am a. You know what, I have learned to
Speaker 2: like Michael Cole and actually appreciate him more than I
Speaker 2: think a lot of us have. Coming off the Jim
Speaker 2: Ross era, he was a he was villainized because he
Speaker 2: didn't sound like Jim Ross. Jim Ross is to me
Speaker 2: the best announcer of all times, across all generations. Gordon Solely,
Speaker 2: Tony Schavani, the you know whoever, pick whoever, even Taz,
Speaker 2: who I really really like as an announcer, Cole, whoever? Right,
Speaker 2: I think you have Michael Cole put in an unfair
Speaker 2: position coming off of a legendary run to Michael Cole.
Speaker 2: And I've learned to really appreciate his work over the years,
Speaker 2: and he seems like a genuinely good guy, and I
Speaker 2: don't don't get on him too much, all right, And
Speaker 2: this is not something I don't know if I'm really
Speaker 2: gonna take issue with him or what he's just really
Speaker 2: told to do, right, what he's told to do is
Speaker 2: what he's told to do. And Michael Cole didn't exactly
Speaker 2: deliver this next segment on the show with particular fluidity
Speaker 2: or as a natural delivery, shall we say, If you
Speaker 2: can't tell that this next segment is being read. I
Speaker 2: just I don't know what to tell you, So just
Speaker 2: take a listen to this. Can you honestly say with
Speaker 2: the straight face, this sounds like it's somebody actually speaking
Speaker 2: to you. Does this sound like somebody how they normally
Speaker 2: would talk. Just take a listen and I'll have some
Speaker 2: comments on it.
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Speaker 4: of the maxtermind Lit Morrigan. We'll take on the terror
Speaker 4: Quinns the Punisher, Damian Prieston, real Bloody Ripley Light After
Speaker 4: this break members of it don't Universe inscribing a pect
Speaker 4: bringing it. Plus here's an inside look at a part
Speaker 4: printing betrayal the Corroded, one of the most formidal factions
Speaker 4: in the way. To bring upon this they have.
Speaker 2: Now some of you probably weren't listening to this, don't care,
Speaker 2: and some of you probably still don't care. You know
Speaker 2: I brought it up. It's maybe one of the single
Speaker 2: most read portions of a pl I've ever heard from
Speaker 2: an announcer. I know they have their their sponsors. They
Speaker 2: have to read the ads all other stuff. This literally
Speaker 2: was him in front of a piece of paper reading
Speaker 2: what is on the paper of how to promote this match.
Speaker 2: And maybe he was told verbatim, you gotta read this,
Speaker 2: or Cole said, screw it, I don't have time to
Speaker 2: add lib let's just read what's on the paper. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna paraphrase. I'm just gonna read it word for word. Like,
Speaker 2: listen to that. I mean, just I know again some
Speaker 2: of you don't care. Just get on with the show here,
Speaker 2: but I wanted to point it out. When I'm listening
Speaker 2: to this, I go, this is horrible. How could anyone
Speaker 2: even remotely get excited for the match by Cole reading this?
Speaker 2: It was just how the how creative wanted the crowd
Speaker 2: to perceive this, Like, I don't know, so just go
Speaker 2: back and listen to it. It's horrible. I'm not I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm really blaming Cole. Maybe he was
Speaker 2: told to read this verbatim, but it was as dry
Speaker 2: and inorganic and just red. It's like somebody doing a
Speaker 2: presentation reading the PowerPoint presentation. That's what it felt like.
Speaker 2: Instead of just in your own words, you pay much
Speaker 2: more attention when you feel like someone's actually talking to you,
Speaker 2: and instead it's just like, hey, I'm just gonna read
Speaker 2: every word on the PowerPoint. I mean that's what it
Speaker 2: felt like. So anyway, moving on, the match I thought
Speaker 2: was as expected. It went exactly as expected, and that's
Speaker 2: a compliment to this match. The story going in was
Speaker 2: as hot as WWE's had, one of the hottest stories
Speaker 2: they've had. Rie Ripley did her part. She got she
Speaker 2: you know, was positioned several times throughout the match to
Speaker 2: get the hot tag. She's the one that you want
Speaker 2: to see get her hands on Dom give him some payback.
Speaker 2: There were some moments when you thought liv might actually
Speaker 2: get the victory here, and I think that there were
Speaker 2: moments of doubt that they planted in you that we
Speaker 2: were done very well. And yes, Live had a weird
Speaker 2: oblivion that was I don't know what it was. Even
Speaker 2: Michael Cole said, I'm not sure what the hell that was.
Speaker 2: In so many words, he goes, I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: that was because it was just, yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: little bit of a botch. It's fine, it happens, but
Speaker 2: it was one that you're you're thinking Okay, finally they're
Speaker 2: going to get what's coming to them. And then here
Speaker 2: comes here comes j D. McDonald, here comes Finn Balor,
Speaker 2: and they got to you know, beaten down a little bit. Ultimately, though,
Speaker 2: the Terror Twins get the victory with Riptide on Live Morgan,
Speaker 2: ripped tied on Live Morgan, and that's not what you
Speaker 2: want to see though, So you didn't get the real payoff.
Speaker 2: You didn't get ripped tied on Dom, and you didn't
Speaker 2: get South of Heaven on Finn. Those are the two
Speaker 2: pairings that you're waiting to see, which tells you this
Speaker 2: match is not over or this feud is not over.
Speaker 2: And Bad Blood, even the name of the event screams
Speaker 2: that this rivalry is not over. There's bad blood between
Speaker 2: these all these individuals. So you're looking you can easily
Speaker 2: look forward to and I am there conclusion to this
Speaker 2: rivalry at Bad Blood and we'll see Ria get her
Speaker 2: hands on Dom. Now to that point, Rhea did what
Speaker 2: she exactly. You know, we kind of knew she was
Speaker 2: gonna do, and she got to play with the big
Speaker 2: boys and even had a little offense on Carlito when
Speaker 2: he came out to help the judgment day with interference
Speaker 2: and realiabily attack Dom a few times, of course, with
Speaker 2: absolutely no offense on Dom side. I'll continue to say it.
Speaker 2: I know you're tired of me saying it, but I
Speaker 2: keep seeing it, and I'm not just gonna normalize it,
Speaker 2: because that's I think something that I'm not. I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna do fuse to adhere to this
Speaker 2: renormalization that men can just be attacked by women in
Speaker 2: pro wrestling, and the men just how are supposed to
Speaker 2: take it. And so that's what we continue to see,
Speaker 2: which is ridiculous but real. Ripley's Mega over priest has
Speaker 2: done a nice job transitioning to a babyface role. I
Speaker 2: think those two work very well together. They got a
Speaker 2: nice victory over the Judgment Day, and I think we'll
Speaker 2: see a little bit of heat back on the Judgment
Speaker 2: Day on Monday Night Raw. So all right, one last
Speaker 2: thing I want to mention about Cody and Ko though
Speaker 2: I forgot to say, and this really goes though for
Speaker 2: one of the themes of the whole event in Bash, the
Speaker 2: over use of kickouts of finishes. We need to do
Speaker 2: something about this. I don't, I mean, I say we
Speaker 2: I don't know who the we is. I guess the
Speaker 2: we are the people that are the ones who actually
Speaker 2: can make that change, which are the wrestlers themselves who
Speaker 2: have a little bit of autonomy over their matches, but
Speaker 2: also the agents, the ones putting the matches together, not
Speaker 2: even creative, creative of the ones that just give you
Speaker 2: general direction maybe how someone's going to win, but they
Speaker 2: don't really do all the intricacies of the in between
Speaker 2: of the actual match itself. So the agents and the
Speaker 2: wrestlers themselves, I guess are the wei. But this re
Speaker 2: education that pro wrestling needs to have in order to
Speaker 2: have a great match, you need to have kickouts of
Speaker 2: finishes and kickouts of finishes, and how many crossroads did
Speaker 2: we get? I mean, and why would you want to
Speaker 2: finish that is in a finish? This isn't just Ko
Speaker 2: and and and Cody Rhodes, of course, they had that
Speaker 2: happened several times, specifically the crossroads that just continues to
Speaker 2: be an egregiously terrible finish, and not just terrible because
Speaker 2: it looks bad, but also because it's constantly kicked out
Speaker 2: of one never does the job. And so yeah, that
Speaker 2: and the other moment that tends to rear its head
Speaker 2: during these long form matches, and this happened in both
Speaker 2: world title matches, the World title itself and the Unisputed Title.
Speaker 2: About three quarters through the match, when both men are exhausted,
Speaker 2: they've each had their hope spots, they've each had their comebacks,
Speaker 2: you get this moment when they're like they've both kind
Speaker 2: of had a stalemate and they're staring at each other,
Speaker 2: and they'd both just restart again punching each other in
Speaker 2: the head. Sammy's a and Ko used to do this
Speaker 2: many many times. Orton and Gunther did this, and so
Speaker 2: did Cody Roads and Kevin Owens. And I understand, it's just,
Speaker 2: you know, all we're stalemate, and we've thrown everything at
Speaker 2: each other and we were still both standing, and now
Speaker 2: we're gonna throw these punches that have absolutely no effect
Speaker 2: on each other as a visual aid to show you
Speaker 2: how determined we are and how closely matched we are.
Speaker 2: It's essentially what they're doing. And I understand the visual
Speaker 2: and I can appreciate it to a certain level, but
Speaker 2: the fact that both matches had it was noteworthy. I'll
Speaker 2: just leave it at that. But I just wanted to
Speaker 2: the re education to finishes. We need to do something.
Speaker 2: It's getting worse. And what I mean by worse is
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's taking more finishes to finish matches, even
Speaker 2: protected finishes like the RKO, really protective finishes like the
Speaker 2: RKO are being kicked out of now nothing and no
Speaker 2: move is safe anymore. And there needs to be a
Speaker 2: different way to create drama other than forty eight finishers
Speaker 2: being implemented in a match, because it also takes the
Speaker 2: drama out of a finish. Why because the second a
Speaker 2: fan sees a finish, especially at a ple e which
Speaker 2: everyone has their superpower turned on and can suddenly kick
Speaker 2: out a finishes when on televised regular TV shows they
Speaker 2: can't like will O' SmackDown. But again, it takes the
Speaker 2: drama out of it because the fans are sitting there
Speaker 2: at a pl e going, well, it's gonna take minimum
Speaker 2: three finishes here, There's no way it's gonna take one
Speaker 2: or two. So I mean, you see a finish, you're like,
Speaker 2: all right, well, we're getting closer to the end of
Speaker 2: the match. You know, it's never oh my god, that
Speaker 2: could actually be it. And they're taking away what a purpose?
Speaker 2: What the purpose of an actual finish is supposed to
Speaker 2: mean when you see it get implemented in a match,
Speaker 2: they're taking that drama away from it. You're you're thinking,
Speaker 2: like three finishes is equal to one. It's the ratio
Speaker 2: is now three to one. What three finishes getting hit
Speaker 2: today mean is what twenty years ago, even fifteen twenty
Speaker 2: years ago getting hit with one finish meant. So it's
Speaker 2: been diminished by a factor of three. So I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not exactly super statistical or scientific. I should say
Speaker 2: I haven't done a study on it, but I would
Speaker 2: say that's about right. So I just I'm not a
Speaker 2: fan of the constant kickouts of finishes and the reliance
Speaker 2: at the end of matches to make it dramatic by
Speaker 2: hitting finishes that need to be hit multiple times that
Speaker 2: fans no need to be hit multiple times. In fact,
Speaker 2: I think it would be even more shocking now if
Speaker 2: one finish in a match finished the damn match at
Speaker 2: a big in a big moment, in a big spot,
Speaker 2: on a big pl e. Do I think that's ever
Speaker 2: gonna happen again? Probably not. We've moved too far away
Speaker 2: from it. So I just wanted to point that out
Speaker 2: maybe someone can totally disagree. Did this ultimately hurt the
Speaker 2: Ko and Cody Roads match? I mean a little bit,
Speaker 2: because the Roads finish is just so awful, awful looking
Speaker 2: and weak. I mean what he hit six or seven times?
Speaker 2: The stunner was hit twice. I think Cody Roads kicked
Speaker 2: out of it twice. But I digress. So let's go
Speaker 2: to the women's tag team title match Alba Fire elid
Speaker 2: On versus Jay Cargill and Bianca Bellair. Now, I still
Speaker 2: don't like the constant and need to have coordinated moves
Speaker 2: and stuff that Jade and Bianca do. And you' all
Speaker 2: know Jade is going to get the hot tag. It's
Speaker 2: because they're there. She's the star that they're trying to build.
Speaker 2: And yes, my constant complaints of Bianca Belair twirling her
Speaker 2: hair down to the ring and skipping as continues to remain,
Speaker 2: I don't, you know, reneg on that at all. I
Speaker 2: double down on that. But I actually thought for Jade
Speaker 2: this match was pretty good. She had some some moments
Speaker 2: that were almost botches, especially specifically the finish at the
Speaker 2: end of the match when they have their you know,
Speaker 2: kind of triple maneuver that ends in a German suplex
Speaker 2: kind of finish. I forget the name of it. I
Speaker 2: apologize there was almost a botch there, but she is
Speaker 2: so strong that she was able to make sure that
Speaker 2: move went off without too much of a hitch, and
Speaker 2: they end up winning the tag team titles, a move
Speaker 2: that many fans expected, but I think it's the correct move.
Speaker 2: Alba Fire and Iil the Dawn weren't exactly setting the
Speaker 2: world on fire. That was lame, but there was a
Speaker 2: need for a change because the bigger story I think
Speaker 2: they're trying to build to is the final split with
Speaker 2: Jade and Bianca, and whenever these two do split, could
Speaker 2: they split quietly? They could? They could, but I think
Speaker 2: it's built to have these two split and eventually feud,
Speaker 2: and it could happen at WrestleMania. Maybe that's what they're eyeing.
Speaker 2: Maybe they feel confident enough now between now in the
Speaker 2: middle of April that they're saying, hey, there's a chance here,
Speaker 2: there's a chance. And I think that we feel confident
Speaker 2: now that Jade is in a position in the next
Speaker 2: six months seven months that she'll be in a place
Speaker 2: where she could have a one on one with Bianca,
Speaker 2: who is one of the best that the company has,
Speaker 2: so I think that that's something that something that they
Speaker 2: they are probably eyeing in my mind, but I mean
Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong, but that's how I view it.
Speaker 2: So the match, though, was fine. I mean, albi faire
Speaker 2: alida on now the fans, if it weren't for the
Speaker 2: Berlin fans. I mean, there's not a whole lot of
Speaker 2: usual reaction for the Unholy Union. They haven't really been
Speaker 2: established too much and you know, in terms of depth
Speaker 2: of character, so we kind of know that though they're
Speaker 2: Unholy Okay, are they demonic? Do they you know, are
Speaker 2: they Satanists? What are they? And you know, you get
Speaker 2: the occasional quick promo from them backstage, but not a
Speaker 2: lot of fans are attached to them because we don't
Speaker 2: know a whole lot about them, and you know, outside
Speaker 2: of we love pentagrams is essentially what they do. Then
Speaker 2: I haven't said that, but every time you see there
Speaker 2: any any kind of symbology, symbolism rather with them, it's pentagrams.
Speaker 2: Take that for what you will. But with Jade and
Speaker 2: Bianca Jada, she was smoother in this match. For me,
Speaker 2: I'm looking for consistent improvement. I'm looking for a steady rise,
Speaker 2: not a meteoric rise, not up and down, up and down,
Speaker 2: up and down, but just kind of a steady little bump. Okay,
Speaker 2: but we're still going up, a little bump, but we're
Speaker 2: still going up, right, That's what I'm looking for from Jade,
Speaker 2: And I think overall I've gotten it. I know there's
Speaker 2: some emailers and listeners of the show that I feel differently,
Speaker 2: and they look at Jade and are unimpressed and are
Speaker 2: tired of their board with this, this union of Jade
Speaker 2: and Bianca, and I totally get it to some degree.
Speaker 2: They're very formulaic. They're very rehearsed, are they not? You know,
Speaker 2: they're they're very uh you know, just they're they're two
Speaker 2: in two in sync, and I think that does take
Speaker 2: away from the organic feel of these two. They're they're
Speaker 2: so like they are there. They're rehearsed with all of
Speaker 2: their pre uh you know, the their their mannerisms and things,
Speaker 2: and they're they're that is something I agree, it is.
Speaker 2: It's not it's boring, it's annoying. But if they get
Speaker 2: away from that and just try to base their base
Speaker 2: that this team and something more real get away from
Speaker 2: all the rehearse poses and things they do and sayings
Speaker 2: and all this and phrases. I think that the fans
Speaker 2: may organically start to come back to them. I think
Speaker 2: Bianca has been in the shadows with this whole company
Speaker 2: for too long now. I think Beyonca needs to come
Speaker 2: back into the limelight. And I think that's going to
Speaker 2: happen when these two finally split. I think you could
Speaker 2: have a Bianca turn, you could have a Jade turn,
Speaker 2: and I think we're looking at probably three four months
Speaker 2: from now that that'll happen. But they have the women's
Speaker 2: tag team titles. Fine. I mean they're the most dominant
Speaker 2: team that the women's tag team division. And that's not
Speaker 2: saying much that, but that's true that they've ever had.
Speaker 2: There's not a team in the company right now that
Speaker 2: really is has a chance on paper, all right, Drew
Speaker 2: McIntyre and see them punk the Strap match, brutal, brutal,
Speaker 2: and this was not I this also was not immune
Speaker 2: from the insane amount of finishes. I really I think
Speaker 2: the the GTS might have been used more than even
Speaker 2: the Crossroads was. I think the GTS was like six
Speaker 2: or seven maybe Cody roads was like four or so,
Speaker 2: so the GTS was hit and drew just a crazy
Speaker 2: amount of times. But this match wasn't about pinning or submitting.
Speaker 2: It was just about hitting four turnbuckles. And you have
Speaker 2: to really in this kind of match, no matter how
Speaker 2: talented the people are in the ring, you have to
Speaker 2: suspend your disbelief even deeper than just the standard match,
Speaker 2: because you're supposed to believe that these ultra athletic athletes
Speaker 2: aren't able to hit four corners in succession when their
Speaker 2: opponent is down. I mean, if they really wanted to,
Speaker 2: these these men are so athletic, they could have done
Speaker 2: it in about four seconds, but we have to go
Speaker 2: through the drama of well, they're just so exhausted that
Speaker 2: they can't make it to the next Again, I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to tear this match down. These men did an
Speaker 2: awesome job. I really enjoyed this match, but it's just
Speaker 2: as a pro wrestling fan, it's just another level of
Speaker 2: disbelief you have to kind of, you know, inherently absorb
Speaker 2: before you go into this match. There's not a lot
Speaker 2: of them, I mean, strat matches are few and far between,
Speaker 2: but ultimately I think they did a really good job.
Speaker 2: The storytelling was good. The pacing of the match was
Speaker 2: slow at times, but it was fun. You had Ceampunk
Speaker 2: getting his bracelet back. There were times when you thought
Speaker 2: Drew would win clay More's there were two of them,
Speaker 2: three of them at most, and you had the announcers
Speaker 2: telling the story of Punk is his only worst enemy.
Speaker 2: That's what cost him his match last month. And that's
Speaker 2: true because there were moments when Punk had the match
Speaker 2: one and he decided to go back and he almost
Speaker 2: cost himself again, and he you know, went to a turnbuckle,
Speaker 2: hit a GTS, went to another turn buckle, hit the GTS,
Speaker 2: and you know, ultimately he ends up getting the victory
Speaker 2: after hitting the fourth turn buckle. And this match was brutal.
Speaker 2: I mean, they worked their asses off. It's good to
Speaker 2: see that Punk didn't get hurt. That's always a concern
Speaker 2: every time he works. And it's the first victory he's had,
Speaker 2: as Michael Cole stated, in ten and a half years
Speaker 2: in WWE. That's significant, which is really mind blowing that
Speaker 2: it's been since twenty fourteen that Punk has had a
Speaker 2: victory in WWE. Crazy, but I appreciate those kinds of stats.
Speaker 2: Stats that most people aren't thinking about, and the match
Speaker 2: I think delivered, the match delivered, and one that I
Speaker 2: think again is not done as each man has a
Speaker 2: victory and it'll conclude inside I believe inside Hell and
Speaker 2: a Cell. This is out of all the rivalries. Yes,
Speaker 2: you could even say Solo and Roman, but that matchup
Speaker 2: has been put on the shelf for a little while now,
Speaker 2: and what's been going on longer and burning hotter is
Speaker 2: Steampunk and Drew McIntyre that I think they are destined
Speaker 2: for a Hell in a Cell match. That's if I
Speaker 2: was to put a Hell in a Cell match at
Speaker 2: Bad Blood, which I do think there should be one.
Speaker 2: The Punk and Drew rivalry is worthy of the cell.
Speaker 2: That's the key. So when I say there should be
Speaker 2: a cell match, it's not just because it's bad Blood,
Speaker 2: although there is a little bit of me thinking that
Speaker 2: I assimilate bad Blood in Hell and a Cell. But
Speaker 2: the more important question is is a match or a
Speaker 2: program worthy of it? Not just we're going to put
Speaker 2: one there and whoever happens to be the most qualified
Speaker 2: gets one. To me, it's this program's deserving of one,
Speaker 2: and I think that I think I hope they'll they'll
Speaker 2: give the one, and yeah, it could be wrong. They
Speaker 2: could go solo. If they're gonna do a Hell and
Speaker 2: us hell, I guess they could do a different program.
Speaker 2: But this is the one to do it for me.
Speaker 2: But I give it, you know, I give this match
Speaker 2: like an eight out of ten. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Both men, as I said, worked really hard. Physical. That
Speaker 2: leather strap must be brutal. I can't imagine the welts
Speaker 2: that are on their backs and stomachs and bodies this morning.
Speaker 2: It's got to be just painful as hell. But they
Speaker 2: told the story. They told it well. They worked at
Speaker 2: a pace that Punk can work at at his age.
Speaker 2: And the bracelet. It was all a lot of it
Speaker 2: was about that bracelet man. And now Punk has the
Speaker 2: bracelet back, so there's that, you know. And the lights
Speaker 2: I do appreciate, you know, the lights that kind of
Speaker 2: are are indicative of how many in a row they've
Speaker 2: gotten and what their progress is. That's I think important.
Speaker 2: That was implemented. I forget the last time it was.
Speaker 2: But you know, I've seen stram matches in Texas, bull
Speaker 2: rope matches that they aren't implemented. And you have to
Speaker 2: just kind of remember where they're at. I mean, I
Speaker 2: remember watching some of the two thousands with Eddie Guerrero,
Speaker 2: and you just you have to remember, oh wait, did
Speaker 2: hit that turmb brokele? That turmb brokele. So the visual
Speaker 2: of seeing which turnbuckles they've hit is a nice touch.
Speaker 2: And each man is assigned to color. So I do
Speaker 2: like that too. The visual presentation for a STRAT match
Speaker 2: has been upgraded, you know, in the last several years.
Speaker 2: This isn't the first one to have the lights, but
Speaker 2: so I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the punk and true.
Speaker 2: So there's some positivity for you for all the stuff
Speaker 2: that didn't not that I took issue with all the
Speaker 2: weird stuff right that no one's thinking about. And he's
Speaker 2: you guys are probably like, why is he spending so
Speaker 2: much time on this weird stuff? Now my brain, I
Speaker 2: guess is for better or worse works differently than a
Speaker 2: lot of fans. But let's get to the main event here,
Speaker 2: Gunther and Randy Orton. Andy Orton comes out and gets
Speaker 2: a very positive reaction. And I had said, even though
Speaker 2: Randy Orton acknowledge he's going into enemy territory and figured
Speaker 2: he might get booed. I didn't think he would because
Speaker 2: the fans are so excited to see him. The last
Speaker 2: time Randy Orton competed a ple e in Germany, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think he ever has he ever maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know, So they were just so excited to see him.
Speaker 2: He's a legendary star. He's still at the top of
Speaker 2: his game, which is incredible. Guntherer You knew he was
Speaker 2: going to get a positive reaction because it's close to
Speaker 2: his home country, and he did. Both men I think
Speaker 2: got equally close to equally positive reactions. The fans were
Speaker 2: just there to have a good time and cheer for
Speaker 2: both men, and that's what they got. And the pacing
Speaker 2: of this match was slow in the ways that Drew
Speaker 2: and Punk were, but the story told was here was
Speaker 2: really good. With the arm of Gunther and not being
Speaker 2: able to power bomb Randy Orton, Orton eventually hit a RKO,
Speaker 2: and again with that being one of the few protected finishes,
Speaker 2: you're thinking, hey, maybe maybe one two kickout, so nobody
Speaker 2: was immune. It is an equal opportunity kickout. Of all
Speaker 2: finishes last night, no finish was safe, but it was
Speaker 2: a fun finish with Gunther not using his power bomb
Speaker 2: or any other any other maneuver other than a sleeper.
Speaker 2: I love that stuff. It's a smart finish, a smart
Speaker 2: finish on several levels. Let's go through them, gun Through
Speaker 2: retaining very smart, Randy Orton winning for what another number
Speaker 2: to get closer to John Cena slash Ric Flair's record.
Speaker 2: So that's that should not be at the top of
Speaker 2: the ww's list. Plus Gunther already won it or run
Speaker 2: it recently. You're not going to have him drop the belt. Now,
Speaker 2: that'd be absurd, even to a guy like Randy or
Speaker 2: who is a legend in the business. And so that
Speaker 2: was number one. Gun They're retaining good stuff. Number two.
Speaker 2: How he won was super important here. You didn't want
Speaker 2: another question mark or asterisk next to this victory that
Speaker 2: Gunther collected on Randy like he did at King of
Speaker 2: the Ring when shoulder the shoulders of Randy Orton were
Speaker 2: clearly up and they brought it into storyline and it
Speaker 2: was it was a stain on Gunther's record, and Gunther
Speaker 2: won fair and square. So they redeemed guntherro And you
Speaker 2: want that for gun Through. You a guy that they're
Speaker 2: helping or hoping is one of the building blocks of
Speaker 2: the future, and not just a future main eventor but
Speaker 2: a future Hall of Famer. At this point, he already
Speaker 2: is a main eventor so a next Hall of Famers,
Speaker 2: the next big, big stage he could get to. That's
Speaker 2: what they're hoping. And you can only do that if
Speaker 2: you you got to give him real victories at some point,
Speaker 2: and it was very important that Gunther win clean, and
Speaker 2: he did. Number Three, The fact that you can use
Speaker 2: just average quote unquote moves in a match to finish
Speaker 2: a match makes total sense logically. Now, I know that
Speaker 2: wrestlers have quote unquote finishers, and that finishers are assigned
Speaker 2: or I guess, chosen by the wrestlers to end their match,
Speaker 2: and it's exciting and you know, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: could be it. But once in a while it makes
Speaker 2: sense that you have a regular maneuver and the match.
Speaker 2: Putting somebody in a sleeper hole in real life would
Speaker 2: actually make them pass out. And Gunther has the size
Speaker 2: and strength and believability to actually make Randy Orton pass out.
Speaker 2: And he kept hanging on and kept hanging on and
Speaker 2: kept hanging on, and Randy Orton passed out. They could
Speaker 2: do this every once in a while too. It'd be
Speaker 2: nice if they did this a little bit more often
Speaker 2: with oh, I don't know, the effing super kick that
Speaker 2: has been I guess defined down to a wrist lock.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's essentially what it means now. But it's
Speaker 2: nice to see when moves that aren't typically viewed as
Speaker 2: finishers are used as finishers. And also number four did
Speaker 2: protect Randy. Where Randy wasn't pinned, he didn't submit, he
Speaker 2: just passed out. That's a classic maneuver to protect a
Speaker 2: baby face. And I have no problem protecting Randy, not
Speaker 2: that his character needs protecting in the sense that, oh
Speaker 2: my god, his legacy. You know, I'm using all these puns.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to be, but that could be it,
Speaker 2: you know, or rather, Randy Orton looks like he's on
Speaker 2: the decline. You know, he he just got he's doing jobs. No,
Speaker 2: he didn't. He didn't get pin he didn't submit, he
Speaker 2: just passed out. That's a nice out for Randy if
Speaker 2: you're trying to make him a serious opponent for maybe
Speaker 2: maybe Cody Rhodes, which I am really really hoping we
Speaker 2: get a Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton match. Up maybe
Speaker 2: as soon as Bad Blood. Could they do that in
Speaker 2: four weeks? For me, this is even Rumble or Mania
Speaker 2: level worthy. I would much rather see a Randy Orton
Speaker 2: and Cody Rroad's main event for WrestleMania than it would
Speaker 2: Cody Roads on the Rock, and simply because I don't
Speaker 2: want to see Cody Roads beat the Rock because you
Speaker 2: know they would. But with Randy Orton, there's a hell
Speaker 2: of a story there. And if he's protected in this
Speaker 2: match to where you could say, well, he never was
Speaker 2: pinned or submitted. Yeah he lost, but he didn't actually
Speaker 2: lose in a way that would damage him for being
Speaker 2: able to say he earns it, he should get a
Speaker 2: title shot. And also with Cody Roads just giving away
Speaker 2: title basically begging people, he had to beg Kevin Owens
Speaker 2: for a title shot, which is ridiculous. Why isn't Randy Orton,
Speaker 2: you know, qualified for that? I mean there is no
Speaker 2: reason he should be. So it could be a way
Speaker 2: again that they were just trying to protect Randy because
Speaker 2: they know he's about to turn. He's about to turn,
Speaker 2: and he's gonna turn on Cody, and I would, I mean,
Speaker 2: give me a heel Randy Man give me a heel, Randy,
Speaker 2: and they might not do it because SmackDown is a
Speaker 2: bit short on the babyface side, or rather, no, I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say that with Roman back. Excuse me, Roman back.
Speaker 2: Cody's there both mega babyfaces. You have Kevin Owens apparently
Speaker 2: still a babyface. Randy Orton is the perfect candidate to turn.
Speaker 2: He feels way more natural as a anyway. I don't
Speaker 2: like when he panders to the crowd. It's weird. Last
Speaker 2: week on SmackDown with him like two weeks ago and
Speaker 2: SmackDown pandering to the crowd, thanking them all this stuff.
Speaker 2: He should turn on Cody, give us a bad blood
Speaker 2: main event. There's bad blood between them. He even hinted
Speaker 2: at it about a month ago, right, remember the ww
Speaker 2: underspeeded title sitting between them backstage in the locker room,
Speaker 2: and there was a hint that he could eventually come
Speaker 2: for him. I think it's a perfect time to strike.
Speaker 2: Why not get Cody also out of the bloodline stuff.
Speaker 2: I know that Solo said he's next in line, but
Speaker 2: I think Roman has something to say about it. Maybe
Speaker 2: the match between them will be a number one contenders,
Speaker 2: or that'll just be a grudge match between Roman and
Speaker 2: Solo that has to take place at Bad Blood. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't even want Cody involved. Get Cody added the
Speaker 2: bloodline for God's sakes. I mean, we've seen it enough.
Speaker 2: But to me, I don't know, what do you guys think.
Speaker 2: Do you guys want Cody and Randy? Boy, that'd be
Speaker 2: to me, it's the prime opportunity. It's if you don't
Speaker 2: want it for WrestleMania, now's the time because once you
Speaker 2: get into WrestleMania season, which only is a few months away,
Speaker 2: believe it or not, as Survivors Series starts to plant
Speaker 2: the seeds and then a month or two later you're
Speaker 2: into Rumble and bam you're there. So it may not
Speaker 2: be a bad time for Randy and Cody roads. Also,
Speaker 2: it would turn Randy into a heel, which not only
Speaker 2: is it better for SmackDown in balance of heels and babyfaces,
Speaker 2: they need a heel actually not a babyface, and they
Speaker 2: need a good experience heel and Randy Orton can provide that.
Speaker 2: But also it would set the stage for a John
Speaker 2: Cena return on January first. You could have a long
Speaker 2: run with Randy as a heel most of his career.
Speaker 2: I believe has been as a heel. To me, the
Speaker 2: most successful parts of his career has been has Ben
Speaker 2: as a heel or have Ben as a heel? And
Speaker 2: then you could have eventually a John Cena Randy Orton
Speaker 2: matchup before John Cena hangs up his boots in December
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. So it really I think serves
Speaker 2: multiple purposes to have Randy turn. So when does that happen?
Speaker 2: Is it soon as SmackDown could be? I will say
Speaker 2: if Randy Orton is not injected into the title situation
Speaker 2: over on SmackDown on Friday, this coming SmackDown? Is it Denver, Colorado?
Speaker 2: I think it's in Denver. Then you know, maybe he
Speaker 2: is going to go for Solo versus Cody versus Roman
Speaker 2: or some kind of combination thereof. But Solo and Roman
Speaker 2: need to battle themselves out here. They're the story that
Speaker 2: you want to see. Cody, I think would be a
Speaker 2: distraction even though he's the champion now. Randy Orton is not,
Speaker 2: hopefully not coming back to Raw. He was on Raw
Speaker 2: facing Gunther here with again no explanation of than they
Speaker 2: needed a main event. But he comes back to his
Speaker 2: home base and SmackDown, and I think this Friday we
Speaker 2: could see could see hints of it, if not a
Speaker 2: full blown tern by Randy. So all right, well, I
Speaker 2: think that'll do it for me here on the show. Now,
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Speaker 2: Bash and Berlin Review. I know I went off some
Speaker 2: tangents here and talked about things that's most are I'm
Speaker 2: talking about with some little nitpicks, but overall I would
Speaker 2: give the event a B B plus when it comes
Speaker 2: to pure wrestling. If that was your xbaation, you got
Speaker 2: it and hoped those of you in Berlin didn't go
Speaker 2: into debt too badly in order to you know, if
Speaker 2: you finance your tickets to go to this event, you
Speaker 2: know you may have probably overspent. But I understand it.
Speaker 2: You know, they don't come off And I probably would
Speaker 2: do the same thing too. I'm sitting here like a hypocrite,
Speaker 2: but I probably would too. If I was starved for
Speaker 2: a pl I'd go to. And the ww knew that
Speaker 2: they knew they had pent up demand, they knew they
Speaker 2: had a fan base that was rabid, and they knew
Speaker 2: that they could squeeze all the money out of them
Speaker 2: that they could. And what do you think, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: imagine this one last thing, but the UK rumored to
Speaker 2: hold WrestleMania forty two this year obviously's in Vegas and
Speaker 2: WrestleMania forty one. With the UK rumored to hold WrestleMania
Speaker 2: forty two, imagine the ticket prices in the UK. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, you guys might want to start a separate
Speaker 2: savings account now, like eighteen months in advance. Just start
Speaker 2: putting little money away now, those of you in the UK,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna need it. You're gonna need it. And
Speaker 2: there's reasons they do that. They know they can get
Speaker 2: away with it, they know the fans are willing to
Speaker 2: spend it. But also it's more expensive for the company
Speaker 2: to go over there. A lot more expensive for them
Speaker 2: to travel there, bring their all their equipment, all their supplies,
Speaker 2: and obviously the hotels, and there's a lot more that
Speaker 2: goes into the travel overseas than just you know, domestically
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