Speaker 1: Stein chronicles today March the fourth day of the Glaine
Maxwell trial, and we saw three witnesses take the stand today.
None of those witnesses were accusers, so it wasn't as
emotionally charged, but there was a significant portion of today's
proceedings that were spent on one of the witnesses, and
that witness is Juana Lessi. Now, wan A Lessie was
Jeffrey Epstein's butler, slash housekeeper and somebody who was pretty
much always around, and in his testimony today he goes
into some of the duties that he was responsible for
while working for Epstein and Maxwell. You see Glenn Maxwell's defense,
they want to set it up like Elaine Maxwell wasn't
in a position of power, like Olaine max Well, wasn't
somebody who was calling the shots in a leadership position.
But what this testimony shows, and what I believe we'll
see coming in the future is going to show, is
that is a fantasy. Glenn Maxwell was calling the shots.
She was the lady of the house and her word
was you know, the final say. She spoke and the
employees had to listen. And that's what Juana Lessie gets
at today with some of his testimony. Now, my question
is obviously with Wuana Lessi, he says he knows that
he saw some of these girls and they were underage,
and all this other stuff going on at this house.
Why not come forward previously? Why do you have to
wait so long? And I wonder if he was offered
some sort of deal by the federal government to give
this testimony or if this is just something he is
doing his free will. So that's definitely something interesting as
far as what has brought him forward as of now
and not in the past. Right all of a sudden,
he's willing to testify. You were in Epstein's employee for
a long, long time, buddy. You saw a lot of
very dirty, devious things, and you were there right at
the heart of the operation while all of this was
going on. So I'd like to get an answer for
why it's taken so long for you to come and
put these people on blast. And you could definitely set
it up and frame it that Alessi took part as
an enabler and somebody who helped facilitate this trafficking ring. Right,
Obviously his defense would be, well, I didn't know, but
how far does that go with the law oh, I
don't know. Tell that to the judge and see how
it works out. So that's why I'm one wondering if
maybe he was cut some sort of deal for his testimony.
You know, the government loves to do that. They'll give
deals to anybody if it is going to move the
goalposts for them and they're going to be able to
get their conviction. They gave Sammy the Bull Gravano a deal.
An old boy admitted to killing like eighteen people, probably
had about fifty or sixty, but you know, admitted to
the eighteen and the government was more than happy to
give him a deal as long as they could get Gotti.
So I don't have any evidence of that one way
or the other. And I haven't seen any of that
or any conversation talking about that in any of the
articles I've been reading. So I'm gonna keep looking to
see how this all came about with his testimony. But
I would guess, and again this is a guess here,
that the government leaned on him in one way or
the other, maybe threatened conviction or something like that. But
it's very questionable to me that all of a sudden
now he wants to talk when Jeffrey Epstein got that
cush ass deal. He should have come forward then and said, hey,
look he shouldn't get this deal. This dude's a predator.
This dude is bring him little girls to the house
at a insane clip. But he didn't do that, and
neither did any of the other co conspirators. And that's
where the big problem comes in, where when you try
and set them up as victims, you can't set up
Sarah Kellen Vickers as Sarah Kelln Vickers as a victim.
She had every chance in the world to turn on Epstein,
to go to the authorities. She didn't do any of that.
In fact, she stayed in touch with them, kept in contact,
kept you know, being his pal, and the whole nine.
You talk about Leslie Groff, same thing. All of these people,
all of these co conspirators, every last one of them
that has something to do with Epstein's enterprise has to
do with the facilitation of the trafficking. Because it's obvious
to anybody who's paying attention at this point, and obviously
that's a lot of you right now, that this wasn't
just you know, a guy and a girl who decided
to come up with this plot and put it into
motion all on their own. There are a lot of
moving parts here, and again, as we get deeper into
this trial, hopefully some of that stuff will come to light.
But I'll be posting context episodes as this whole entire
thing continues to highlight some of that stuff, because it's
very important to understand the scope of everything that went
on here and to understand that it wasn't just Epstein
and Maxwell Well doing all of this on their own.
The evidence points to something completely different. And when you're
running a criminal conspiracy like this, a criminal enterprise, you
have to have many different people under your umbrella that
are going to make it work. You have to have accountants, lawyers,
lieutenants such as the core for Maxwell, Leslie Groth, Adriana Ross,
and all of these things have to work in cohesion
for this to be able to happen the way it did.
So all of these other people that helped make this happen,
there's no way that they shouldn't be culpable for what occurred.
And I think one of the biggest travesties about the
whole entire thing here is that point that there were
a lot of other people involved and I'm not talking
about people on the outer edges either. I'm talking about
people who were integral to the operation of this criminal enterprise.
And if it was any other sort of criminal enterprise,
these people who were involved, lieutenants and street captains, if
it was say a mafia enterprise, they'd all get snagged
up too. Right. They don't just go after the person
who was in charge, the person in a leadership role.
They usually go after everybody, and it's usually from the
bottom up. So I'm wondering if they offered any other
immunity deals, if they offered any deals at all to
get testimony. So that's one thing I took away from
the testimony of Alessi today and just interesting all around
that now it's time for him to talk. So with
that said, let's take a look at some of the
back and forth today in the courtroom, and we'll go
over the the bit of transcripts that are available to
us or court notes I should say, that are available
to us, and try and build a better picture of
what went on in that courtroom today. Now, remember these
aren't the full This isn't the full manty, right, this
isn't the full back and forth This just is a
basic idea of what went on in the courtroom and
what was said and the gist of the conversation between
the prosecution and the defense without us having a call
in line here, which is ridiculous, like nobody's business. Considering
we've had a call in line pretty much for all
of the proceedings leading up to this. We have to
rely on those kinds of notes. So it does at
least build more of a picture of what's going on
and give us a better idea of what's going on
inside of the courtroom. It's still not the complete full
manti right, So anyway, let's take a look at the
proceedings and a look at some of the back and
forth between the witnesses and the lawyers. So the first
person who was called to the stand today was a
gentleman named Paul Kane of New York City's Professional Children's School.
And when they had him on the stand, they were
asking him about an exhibit, and that exhibit was exhibit
SEVN twenty one, and they asked him, do you recognize it?
This is the prosecutors asking the questions right now. By
the way, Kane says, it's an enrollment application for a
student Maureen Comy, the prosecutor says, don't say the name
is an accurate copy. To that, Kane replies, yes, it is,
And after he is saying that, he says that there
is an objection from Maxwell's lawyer, Pagliuccia, and he says
it's hearsay. So to counter that, the prosecution responds and
says that it is a business record and that it's
something that should be put into the docket. Judge Nathan
agrees with the prosecution and she overrules their objection. So
it goes on and Maxwell's lawyer asks if she can
question the witness Nathan. Judge Nathan gives gives her permission,
and the lawyer goes on to ask the professional Children's
School doesn't verify the accuracy of the info on the form,
does it? Cane responds, I think they do. Maxwell's lawyer
says all of it. Kane says that I don't know
Maxwell's lawyer so the info and as she's asking the question,
she's cut off by Maureen Comy, who says, your honor
may I And they go on through their whole entire thing,
and the prosecutor asks what happens to the info coming in,
Cane responds, contact the family by phone, then invite them
to toward the school and have a conversation. Comey goes
on to ask does the school rely on the form,
which Kane responds yes. So what they're trying to do
here is established that whoever Jane is went to this
school or applied to this school, and that the benefactor,
who we see right here coming up is Jeffrey Epstein.
So the prosecutor asks what grade was the person applying
for and Kane says the twelfth grade and it said
do to move to New York. So the prosecution asked
who is listed as the person of financial responsibility and
that's when Kine says, Jeffrey Epstein. So what they're trying
to establish here is that Jeffrey Epstein was acting as
a benefactor to Jane and that he was offering her
obviously financial rewards to stay in his sphere or to
think that the behavior that he was engaging in was normal.
So they're trying to set that up and show on
paper that Epstein was involved in all of these girls' lives.
And if anyone knows anything about Epstein, they know he
wasn't some just give her to give? When he gave money,
it was because he expected something in return, one way
or the other. Now, Maxwell's lawyers asked him, do you
have any idea? He says, excuse me, you have no
idea of mister Epstein actually paid, and Kin says, I
do not. So Maxwell's lawyer goes on to ask for
the mother, does it say unemployed? And again another shot
at the mom, right, trying to establish that this is
about money. This is a money grab, that's all it is.
So when you see them and you see them defending Maxwell,
it's really always the two different tactics. Right, you don't
know what you're talking about, you've misremembered, or b you're
trying to get some money. You're trying to make a
little bit of money out of this, and that's all
it is. Maxwell The lawyer asks who is a listed agent?
And to this the prosecution objects. Judge Nathan decides to
let the jurors look at it at that point, and
Maxwell's lawyers tell them to look at the name in
the corner, the name of the prior principle, you don't
have to say them for the record. No further questions
so again, basically what they are trying to do here
is established that Jeffrey Epstein is, in fact or was
a benefactor here. Now the next witness that they call up,
because that was all there is to it for that witness.
It was very short, very to the point, and obviously
they were just looking to establish that Epstein on paper
here was the benefactor and try to show the jury
that Epstein did in fact do this kind of thing
to try and get into the good graces of the
family to therefore get himself access to these children on
their own. So the next witness is doctor Lisa Rochio,
and she has a master's and PhD from the University
of Rhode Island, and they go into it. She's an
expert in grooming, child grooming and all of that kind
of thing, so she deals with all kinds of really dirty,
disgusting stuff. They get her on the stand after all
of her credentials are read and all of that, and
call me asks did you interview anyone in this case,
to which the witness responds no. Cally asked does your
pay depend on the outcome of the trial? Rochio says no.
Prosecution asks again, what is grooming to which Rochio responds,
strategies to get children into sex. So she's trying to
establish that what Epstein was up to was in fact
grooming him and Maxwell. So Maxwell would go out, she'd
find these girls, she'd bring them into the sphere, and
then she'd normalize the behavior. You hear about all of
the other girls and women that were there, topless, all
of them that were engaging in the massaging, et cetera,
et cetera, and it becomes a normalized process for these
girls who were being brought into this. Rokio goes on
to say, I've seen grooming in the boy Scouts through
a special camping trip or jewelry, anything to make the
children feel they are appreciated. So again trying to establish
when you're epsoone like Epstein buying these children who are
basically strangers all of these gifts and showering them with
school scholarships and all this other stuff. It wasn't coming
from the bottom of his heart. Right now. I don't
get me wrong, there are some good people out there
who want to help and do that kind of thing,
But for the most part, especially when we're dealing with
somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, and Glene Maxwell. We know what
their motivations were. The prosecution goes on, how common is
it for a child to be repeatedly abused by the
same purp. Rokio responds, very common, it's by people close
to the child. Comy then asks what is a grooming environment.
Rokio responds, the purp develops trust with people around the child,
for example with the parents, and again setting the stage,
wants to show the jury that this is how the
process works, this is how clinically it works. And when
you bring on a specialist who deals in this specifically,
well it goes a long way to the jury to
show them, you know, hey, look, this is how someone
like Maxwell engages in this sort of procedure. This is
the surrounding environment of it, and this is how it
all takes place. The gifts, the showering them with approval,
making them feel wanted and loved. And that's why they
choose girls or boys from broken homes, kids that don't
have the loving parents or the nurturing relationship with guardians.
And that's why these scumbag predators specifically go after children
like this. After a long public sidebar, they come back
and the prosecution asks, are victims of child sexual abuse
likely report it to the police? Rokio says no. Prosecution says,
how do they talk about it to this Maxwell's lawyer?
They object, they say, no foundation and that's it to
which is it's sustained by Judge Nathan. So the question
is reframed by prosecution and they say, they ask what
is the long term impact? Rokio goes on to respond,
there at higher risk for adverse outcomes. Prosecution rests and
that they give the witness over to the defense. So
they're asking about the long term outcome, right, what does
this sort of thing do in the long term? And
obviously it causes all sorts of mental issues, grief on PTSD,
obviously anxiety, all kinds of stuff that these people carry
with them for the rest of their lives. And it's
not just an incident where it happens and it's over
and you know, that's it. They move on and they
forget about it. So what they're trying to show is
the actual blow that it takes on these people, on
these survivors, and the impact in a long and lasting manner,
because this isn't something that you know, oh well, I
broke my arm I'll be over it the next day.
This is something that they carry with them the rest
of their lives, and they you know, it's serious baggage.
So they go on to ask Rochio Maxwell's lawyers now, obviously, uh,
doctor Rochio, you have a forty five thousand dollars contract
for this, correct? Rokio responds yes, Maxwell's lawyer, if one
had a brain injury, it might be hard to remember,
right to which prosecution objects, and that objection is sustained
by Judge Nathan. So they were trying to hint that
perhaps one of these survivors has some sort of brain
injury and might be hard for them to remember. Like
I said earlier, that's their line, right, that's their strategy. Oh,
you misremembered, So we're gonna be seeing a lot of
that throughout this whole entire thing, for sure. Maxwell's lawyers
go on to ask about alcohol, and they say would
that harm the recall too? And to that once again objection,
which is sustained, and Maxwell's lawyer then asks, are you
familiar with confabulation? To this, the prosecution objects, but they're
overruled Maxwell lawyer. Maxwell's lawyer says, it's filling in the
gaps to that another objection, which this time it's sustained.
Then Maxwell's lawyer goes and this is this is one
where I was like, are you kidding me right now?
You're really gonna go this route? But pagly Uti it did?
He said, my grandfather liked to take me to the
Bronx Zoo. Was that grooming? I don't know, was it?
What did he do to you while you're at the
Bronx Zoo? Dude? Talk about conflating the issue and showing
disregard and no care for her. What these girls are
saying or what they went through an absolute joke, honestly.
But I've come to expect that from Maxwell's team throughout
this whole entire thing, and they're going to continue down
that path. They're not going to take their foot off
of the gas. They understand that it's there. They have
no hope when it comes to the evidence here, they
have zero hope in my opinion, So they're going to
continue to try and demean the credibility. After that exchange,
that was the end of that for uh, for the
for doctor Rochio, and then they moved on to Juanna Lessi,
who was the bulk of this day, and he was
a butler, He was Jeffrey Epstein's housekeeper, and he was
somebody who was always around Jeffrey Epstein during the time,
especially when all of this is alleged to have taken place.
So he gets up on the stand and the first
question that they ask from Camy from the prosecution is
where do you come from? And he answers, He's from Ecuador,
says he moved here in nineteen eighty four and he
worked for a wealthy family in Palm Beach. He was
a maintenance guy, and then he worked for mister Jeffrey Epstein.
So they go on to ask and this is a
doozy here, folks too, for those of you who are
locked in and you know what's going on. Prosecution asked,
how did you meet Epstein? And Unless he responds with
I was working on mister Wexner's mother's house. Well, isn't
that nice? Isn't that nice? So he met Jeffrey Epstein
in nineteen eighty four. Jeffrey Epstein unless Wexner at the
very least been friends since nineteen eighty four, now correct.
Now we know that there's a bunch of other timelines
out there. I'm just going on, but by what we
can talk about, you know, in court that's corroborated here
in court and documents and whatnot. But it establishes right
away the connection between Wexner and Epstein, another connection that
nobody seems to really care about. Now I shouldn't say nobody,
but the legacy media they really don't want anything to
do with it. A lot of independent content creators, a
lot of independent journalists have been shaking those bushes for
a long time, but wexner' is one of those guys
that people just don't want to take on. The Kolhar
reality though, is he was a huge factor in Jeffrey
Epstein's life, and he was a huge factor in everything
Jeffrey Epstein, you know, was up to financially at the
very least. And we can't forget he is incredibly accused
by Virginia Roberts of partaking in the abuse as well.
So Les Wexner is certainly somebody who deserves a little
bit more conversation, you would think, right, somebody who deserves
a little bit more of a chit chat perhaps, But
we do, you know, we don't, We don't have that
like we should. There's not as big of an investigation
as there should be, but it's it's interesting to see
that that that's established here by a Lessi who is
in this photo. They obviously show him a photo and
he says, mister Jeffrey Epstein. When when mister Epstein was
in Palm Beach, where did you sleep? Alessi says, I
had a room there. Prosecution asks who else worked there? Alessi?
He says, I brought my wife to help me, and
other girls. So obviously he's talking about, you know, the
Core four and the other girls that were working on
the property. Sarah Kellen Vickers especially, how did things change
after miss Maxwell got involved? Unless he responds, things were
less cordial, less conversation. I was not allowed to see
mister Epstein anymore unless he asked me questions. Miss Maxwell said,
don't look at his eyes, look at another part of him.
So Maxwell comes in and she takes the reins right.
Does that sound like somebody who is being a victim
to you? Does that sound like somebody who is out
of control, meaning somebody who doesn't have their finger on
the button of control. Course not. She is running the
whole house. She's running everything. She's making sure that everything
everything is moving in the proper manner. And not only that,
according to the survivors, there was times that she took part.
So we know that Maxwell was very rude and looked
down on other people, according to reports from people who
knew her, and listening to Alessie's testimony here, it's rather
obvious how she looked at the help. So they go
to lunch after that, but come back right into the
questioning and prosecution tells the ask to pull up Exhibit
two ninety seven. They asked, mister Alessie what it is,
and it's a blueprint, Uh, you know, a picture of
the bedroom, et cetera, et cetera. And it's the second floor.
There was a huge bathroom up there as well, he says.
And what's the other bathroom, asked prosecution. Alessie responds, that's
miss Maxwell's bathroom. Prosecution says, but they both came off
the master bedroom. Unlessie says, yes, where did miss Maxwell
sleep in the Palm Beach house. Maxwell's lawyer objection overruled
and Alessie says she slept in mister Epstein's bedroom, which
is relatively interesting, But when you're engaging in all of
this kind of behavior. You know, I wouldn't be shocked. Now.
You'll never get me to believe that Jeffrey Epstein and
Glene Maxwell were ever in love or anything like that.
I've been pretty clear about how I feel about that.
This was a business relationship. They were you know, maybe
they were canoodling because you know, whatever reason, but there
was certainly no feelings of love there. They were playing
a part, in my opinion, and all players have to
play their part on the stage, right, And if that
was going to give them more of an inn to
polite society of them being presented as a couple, then
that's what they were going to do. So I don't
buy for a minute that they were ever in love
or anything like that. The prosecution goes on to ask
how many times did you see females by mister Epstein's
pool Unless he responds hundreds. Prosecution then says how often
were they topless? Unless he says seventy five percent of
the time, And that corresponds with a lot of what
we've heard in the past about what Epstein was up
to with the at the pools and stuff, having naked
girls there, girls with their tops off and the behavior
being normalized. Remember that's all part of this. He wanted
to normalize all of this behavior so the new girls
that were brought in they would just seamlessly transition into
this and not ask any questions. And none of that
would have been possible, none of it, in my opinion,
without Glenn Maxwell and her facilitation of all of this.
Prosecution then goes on to ask about Little Saint James Island,
and Alessie says, I was on a cruise with my
wife to Saint Thomas and they picked us up and
showed us Little Saint James. It was huge. Prosecution asks
did you visit any of miss Maxwell's properties, and Unlessie
responds her town home in London. She invited us. It
had a red front door. So this is the muse
house in London that Maxwell just recently sold. And this
is also allegedly the place where Prince Andrew aka the
Joe Exotic of the Windsor family had relations with Virginia
and sexually abused her while she was being trafficked by
Jeffrey Epstein and Glenne Maxwell. So that's a pretty significant mention,
although it doesn't really hold any water here or have
any kind of you know, impact one way or the other.
It's just an interesting tidbit considering the parallel lawsuit that
we see that Virginia has right now going against Prince Andrew.
Now they're talking about a booklet. So the prosecution asked
to show them government Exhibits six h six and what
it was was a checklist, right, and it was fifty
eight pages long. So the prosecution says to him, what
is it and unless you responded that it's a list
of what we're supposed to do to maintain the house.
So he had like a whole a fifty eight page
punch list to maintain the house. Imagine that here's your
fifty eight page book and this is what I want
you to make sure the house looks like. So they
were very particular about the house. They wanted it to
look like a five star resort. They wanted to make
sure that it was always, you know, in that sort
of state. But instead of hiring a whole team of
people Epstein's cheap ass and Maxwell's cheap ass, they had
one guy do it all. So it was probably not
the funnest time in the world, right if you're the
hired help working for Jepstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell,
And as part of his duties with that checklist was
to hear nothing, say nothing, and speak nothing. So everything
was very clandestine with them, and he had that whole
entire book that he had to adhere to. So after
the prosecution was done with Alessi, after they asked the
question about the fifty eight page book, it was time
for Maxwell's lawyers to dive in, and Maxwell's lawyers started out,
when you left, you didn't have this in your possession,
did you talking about the book? UNLESSI responded no, I
did not. Then Maxwell's lawyer said, but this book was
created after you left, at least by the date on it.
So what they're trying to do is establish that a
lessie is misremembering as well here that a lessie also
doesn't know what he's talking about. That's what they're that's
what they're looking at here. That's what they're trying to
establish here, and it is rather funny that they're trying
that same tactic with a lessie as well. After a
long sidebar, Maxwell's lawyers go on to say, as you
sit here today, nineteen years later, you have no idea
where Exhibit fifty two has been, and they're again trying
to establish chain of custody if it was tampered with,
et cetera, et cetera. Maxwell's lawyer goes on to say,
you said the book was two inches thick, but exhibit
fifty two is a quarter inch thick? Correct Alessi says yes,
Maxwell's lawyer, A book you were talking about was from
New York, right, unless he goes on to say yes,
And then they go on to ask about post it
the post it notes and the post it notes weren't there,
right unless he says right. Then prosecution says could jumps
in and asks did you take messages for mister Epstein?
How if he didn't want to talk or call or
wasn't there? So he was taking messages for Epstein when
people would call or whatever, and he'd put it down
in the book. Maxwell's lawyers now again ask there are
a number of pages without dates next to the names.
Do you know that? Unless he responds, I guess so.
Now prosecution admits some sealed exhibits they're not to be
put on the screens or anything like that. Prosecution goes
on to ask what supplies did you buy for the massages,
unless he responds, no, oils. I was Maxwell's lawyers. They
object to this, no doubt about it. The last thing
they want to do is have this line of question
and continue on. Prosecution goes on to ask, did miss
Maxwell give you supplies? Unless he responds exotic oils for
other countries. Prosecution was mister Epstein's door opened during the massages?
Unless he never afterward I went in with gloves. Prosecution,
why Alessi to clean up? Uh? What again? If you're
looking at this in a vacuum, you're saying to yourself, well,
it was just a massage, what's the big deal? But
that's not the case. Jeffrey Epstein in his world, in
his realm, massage was short for sexual dalliances, for sexual assaults,
basically of these girls being trafficked, and it was a
very unhidden secret that that's what it meant. So Alessi
was charged with, you know, buying some supplies for these massages,
and then afterwards he was in there to clean up.
Prosecution goes on, what did you see after the massages towels?
Unless he responds, yes, but not all of the massages.
Prosecution do any incident stand out in your mind, ALESSI,
I found a large dildo. Prosecution, what did you do
with it? ALESSI? I washed it up? So again, he
wasn't going It wasn't a regular massage. When's the last
time you went to a massage and there's a dildo
in there that has to be cleaned up by some
guy with gloves on. It's absurd that they would think
anyone's buying the nonsense that they're spinning. Oh, it was
just a dildo that was in there for no specific purposes.
Just happened to be a coincidence that it's in the
same massage room that Jeffrey Epstein's in with these miners,
that Glenn Maxwell brought these miners too. Just a coincidence.
They go on to ask him where did you put
the dildo? Unless he responded he put it in Maxwell's
bathroom in a basket, they said, They asked him, how
did you know where to put it? Unless he says,
I knew everything going on in the house. Prosecution, what
else was in the basket unless he I saw pornographic tapes?
Well what? And there should have been some more questions
in my opinion here, who was on these pornographic tapes.
What do you mean pornographic tapes? What kind of pornographic tapes?
And then him saying, well, I knew everything that was
going on in the house. Again, it leads me to
believe that how could he not be looked at as
a co conspirator right at the very least, maybe the
FEDS leaned on him to get this testimony, because I
don't see what he gains from giving this testimony all
of these years later if he wasn't at the very
least threatened with some kind of indictment. How often did
you see the dildo? Prosecution asks? He says at least
five times. Prosecution goes on to say, and the other one,
the massager, did the ball at the end vibrate? ALESSI
said yes, I would put it at the top of
mister Epstein's dresser. Again, what they're doing is they're showing you.
They're laying it out the whole scenario, how the room
was set up, how everything was ready to go for
Jeffrey Epstein and his disgusting Dracconian gross ass proclivities, and
how Maxwell facilitated all of this by giving the directions
to a LESSI on what supplies to buy, then cleaning
it up, making letting him know where everything goes. So
you see how it was a well oiled machine and
what I mean by how it couldn't happen with just
one person trying to do this. They go on after
that questioning, and there was some stuff about Virginia Roberts
as well that I wanted to touch on. Uh let's
see here, let me grab my notes and find where
I put it. It was uh pretty uh crazy, because
here it is. Alessie says that, uh, Virginia Roberts, she
looks so young, she had blonde hair, and she had
a long white uniform like the nurses. Alessie says that he,
uh he saw Virginia Roberts at mar A Lago Trump's club,
and that's where Glen Maxwell hopped out of the car
with the little pup named Max to try and, uh,
you know, talk to Virginia. And this is all from
Alessie's uh test today. Now, remember Virginia is not part
of this prosecution, but I don't know how that's possible. Honestly,
her allegations are so heinous that I guess we could
make a whole other episode about that gripe unless he
was also asked about Epstein and Jane going to the movies,
and unless he replied, yes, they went to the movies.
He corroborated multiple parts of Jane's testimony on the witness stand,
and he seemed to be a pretty solid witness for
the UH for the for the prosecution here. So they
go on with the the questioning of him. But I
wanted to just add those other little tidbits from earlier
on with the Virginia and some of the other things
that he was talking about, because I believe that it's
pretty impact stuff and pretty important when you're putting the
pieces together. It corroborates a lot of what Virginia has said,
along with all of the other evidence she has provided.
But again, it corroborates it, and it just adds more
right more to the side of truth and makes it
much harder for these scumbags like the Joe Exotic of
the wimsor family to defend because let's be real, they
have not brought anything to the table, no evidence to
defend themselves. Prosecution goes on to ask were there photographs
of naked women a lessie, yes, but those were kept
in miss Maxwell's desk. Prosecution, why did you leave mister
Epstein's employ I was sick and tired. Did you sign
a non disclosure agreement? Unless he says yes about both
of them. But one of the real reasons he left
mister Epstein's employ Let's remember, Alessie again, is not some
you know, hero of this story or anything like that.
He clipped sixty three hundred bucks from Epstein and that's
why he left Epstein's employ Prosecution asked him, were you
questioned by the police after you took sixty three hundred
dollars from mister Epstein? Unless he responded yes, prosecution, were
you arrested? Unless he no? And at this point, the
Prosecution's done with him, and Maxwell's lawyers decide to start
the cross examination tomorrow instead because it's already four forty
eight at this point and they don't want to bleed
over and go late. So that's where we're at today, folks.
Those are the three witnesses that took the stand. Aulessi's
testimony I thought was pretty helpful for the prosecution here,
and I think that it laid a lot of groundwork
for what's coming next. They're setting it up right you
have the specialists that come on to set it up,
and the whole entire groundwork of how grooming was employed
here and how it was Maxwell playing a pivotal figure
of the whole entire ring that they're putting out there
for you, right, that's the picture that's being painted. And
I think they'll continue to do that in the days
moving forward with the other witnesses they're going to bring
up onto the stand. And now remember there wasn't even
an accuser who testified today, so we got three more
accusers who will be testifying, plus a ton of other witnesses.
So tomorrow morning we'll be right back at it, folks.
Same time, we'll be doing the morning update, getting us
prepared for what comes next, and then of course the
evening update where we take a look at what transpired
in the courtroom. I'll also have a couple of context
episodes uploaded. I have one about one a Lessi that
I'm going to upload and a couple of other ones.
Until tomorrow, folks, I hope you all have a great night.
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