WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.400 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. These guys 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.240 are your favor It's so like say subscribe and rade it. 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:16.199 Live Stock and me. 4 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:24.879 Greatest gone Yesterday, listening watching limb always keep its watching. 5 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.399 And now your hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay. 6 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:33.840 Hey, everybody, this is Cliff, and you are listening to Beyond, 7 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:38.439 Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and usually Bobo and always 8 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:41.520 Matt Pruitt. So and you can tell by my my 9 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:45.280 slightly sarcastic introduction there that Bobo is not with us today. 10 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:48.119 We don't know where he is. We don't have a reason, 11 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:51.000 we don't know anything. We've been trying to get Ahold 12 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:52.359 of It form about two days now and he won't 13 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:55.840 get back to us about scheduling or he hasn't. It's 14 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:57.799 not like he's refusing, but he might be refusing. You 15 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.200 just don't know he's We have not heard back from 16 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.960 Bobo about when he can record. But fact is it's 17 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:05.879 a job and we have a responsibility. So we're going 18 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:09.319 to go ahead and record without him. So there you go. So, 19 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:12.719 but you know what, if Bobo's not here, that means 20 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.719 we have a robo Bobo behind the curtain somewhere are 21 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:18.640 you there? Robo? Bobo? All right? 22 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:19.040 Sweet? 23 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.120 So it's just like Bobo's here. So yeah, it's going 24 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:22.640 to be Matt Prue and I just kind of riffing 25 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.040 on some topics. So we have a couple of cool 26 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:25.840 things to talk about today and maybe and some of 27 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:27.760 the stuff it comes from you, the listeners as well, 28 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:29.760 because we listen to you. We want you to be 29 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:32.120 part of the show. We couldn't be doing We wouldn't 30 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:33.599 be doing the show with that s you'd be weird. 31 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:35.879 But I guess that's what regular conversations are, a show 32 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:37.920 without an audience. So we're going to try to attack 33 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:39.959 a couple of those things today, and you know, you 34 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:44.040 never know, because Bobo is an unpredictable kind of guy. 35 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:46.480 He just might show up. He did last week. This 36 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.680 exact same thing happened last week, except that he agreed 37 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:51.599 to be on the podcast last week and just kind 38 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:53.680 of forgot what day it was. You may you may 39 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.680 have remembered that just a week ago. But today we 40 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:57.920 haven't heard from Bobo at all. 41 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:00.319 Classic classic. 42 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:02.840 Matt, how are you doing? 43 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:06.519 I'm good? It is classic Bobo. In fact, I titled 44 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.719 this session where four arct al bobio hoping that when 45 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:12.719 he logged in he would answer that question for us. 46 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:16.240 So we'll see. I'm kind of excited. It's like Schrodinger's bobes, 47 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.280 like will he or won't he? You know, Yeah, he's 48 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.639 inside the box and outside the box. Inside the box, 49 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.560 of course it's foe bobo robo bobo. We did get 50 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.240 some kind feedback from our good man Wes Germer this 51 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:31.280 morning that it's funny because I just mentioned that a 52 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:33.240 member of ours had said something like, oh, I didn't 53 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:35.759 realize how much I needed a robo bobo in my life. 54 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.680 And Wes's first words in the text to you and 55 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.120 I this morning were I need a robo bobo in 56 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:42.439 my life. 57 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:46.560 Well, we can lend out a row bobobo occasionally to 58 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:48.080 various people. I don't see why not. 59 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.319 Yeah, there could be a cottage industry for other podcasters, 60 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:54.280 you know, like, hey, if you want, you know, dialo bobes, 61 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.479 we got you covered dialo bobs. 62 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:00.879 Yeah, yeah, because it's well, it could be like a 63 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:07.639 service he provides. Should I call him bo bites instead 64 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:12.000 of sound bites? Maybe we should put bo bites in 65 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.000 the merch listing. You know, have a little online bo 66 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.280 Byites merch shop, so you can just buy a belch 67 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:21.280 for like, you know, ninety nine cents. Oh yeah, would 68 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.840 you like Bobo belching as your ring tone? Let us know. 69 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:27.840 Another listener, Oh, I should probably find this real quick 70 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:31.319 so I can give credit where credit is due, because 71 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.639 it would be a great shout out. It's a great idea. 72 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:39.479 So one second here. Oh it was our great listener 73 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:42.280 who's also a member submitted a lot of good questions 74 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:48.159 over the years. Woodbooger James suggested that we consider manufacturing 75 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.800 for retail a talking Bobo action figure. Remember the action 76 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:53.639 figures back in the day that would make sounds when 77 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.280 you press the button. We should incorporate Robo Boo into 78 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.879 a Bobo action figure, which I think would be amazing. 79 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.080 You know at the pretty high tech stuff for us 80 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:08.319 many maybe something more like a Bobo Magic eight ball 81 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:10.599 or something like that. You know, asking a question, you 82 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:11.080 turn it over. 83 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:16.079 He goes yep, and speaking of listeners, I do. I 84 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.399 did want to give a shout out to our good 85 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:22.319 listener Nigel Williams, who he submitted questions in the past. 86 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:24.399 We did a voicemail from him recently, and I had 87 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.079 mentioned that he had authored a book and I had 88 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.000 weighed in a little bit on some of the Sasquatch 89 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.319 oriented information there. And that book is out now. So 90 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:33.639 it's a book for young readers, sort of like middle 91 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.759 school grade readers maybe, like ages nine to thirteen, and 92 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.800 it's called Alfie and the Bigfoot of Bluff Creek. It's 93 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:41.920 a great young adult book. It's got a lot of 94 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:45.399 good Sasquatch information. The Sasquatch is incorporated into the story 95 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.680 and it's treated sympathetically and scientifically. And I'll have the 96 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:50.879 link to the Amazon listing there in the show notes. 97 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:52.360 So I wanted to give a shout out to Nigel 98 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:56.519 and Nigel congratulations on getting the book published. Rad Rad. 99 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.079 You know, speaking of books, I came into the museum 100 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:03.120 yesterday named Tom Buker. He's been writing me a little 101 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:04.920 bit off and on through the years or whatever, and 102 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.720 he actually gave me a book a little while ago 103 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:10.120 that he wanted to incorporate a little just a little 104 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:12.839 sasquatch snippet or something in there, and it turned out 105 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.600 to be a much larger snippet than he anticipated. A 106 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:17.680 real super nice guy. So I want to give a 107 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:20.160 little plug to his book in case anybody is interested 108 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.800 in some cool fiction or whatever. It's basically about a 109 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:28.639 US army like a marshal, basically trying to track down 110 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.120 a killer looking in the wilderness of Idaho. And cause 111 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:33.839 it was a fictional thing, but there's a there's a 112 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:37.399 sasquatch section in there. And this guy's name is Thomas Buker, 113 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:40.240 I know him's Tom. He came in the museum yes ohough. 114 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:41.680 The name of the book, by the way, is Dust 115 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.199 and Duty. I don't know if it's available on Amazon 116 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.480 or may maybe that tickles somebody's fancy, but it looks 117 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.439 like a pretty slick book man, and he gave me 118 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:52.079 a copy of it, so whatever that's worth, whatever that's worth, 119 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.120 I want to give Tom a heads up and like 120 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:56.959 a shout out there because he was the reason he 121 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:58.759 came into the shop yesterday. Is that this guy is 122 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:01.600 a pretty rabbit hunter. You know. He's out there all 123 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.360 the time, you know, because some tags are all year long, 124 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:06.160 like mountain lions, I think, and all that sort of stuff. 125 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.879 And he's always scouting for good elk areas and whatever else. 126 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:10.959 And he's got a spot not far from where he 127 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:15.199 lives where a few years ago he started running across 128 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:17.839 sign that didn't make sense to him, you know, when 129 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:21.399 he's out there tracking and stuff, and long story short, 130 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:24.199 over the years, he has come to the realization that 131 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:27.360 sasquatches are in fact real animals, and there's apparently at 132 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.680 least one in the area where he goes, because every 133 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.720 once in a while he finds some sign. So he 134 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.480 dropped by yesterday and he donated two casts to the museum, 135 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:38.879 and he's out all the time, and now he's seen 136 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:41.680 a line of sasquatch tracks that were pretty plain his 137 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:44.079 day before, and he's finding these other things and now 138 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:48.720 he's carrying plaster around. So it sounds like ANYBC has 139 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:52.800 a really good contact out in the Idaho area who 140 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:55.879 is keeping his eyes on the ground for us out there. 141 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:57.720 So I look forward to hearing from Tom in the future. 142 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.920 So Tom, if you're listening, hats off to you, buddy. 143 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:03.040 Thanks so much for the donation, And of course, if 144 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.839 anybody's interested in some cool looking fiction. I'm just judging 145 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:07.399 a book by its cover here, but it's a pretty 146 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:10.800 interesting cover here. It looks rat Thomas Buker has written 147 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.240 Dust and Duty. Maybe you guys could check it out 148 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:16.519 and you know, give him some love. So there you go. 149 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.040 Yeah, I'm sure it's available online. I'll find the link 150 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:20.879 and I'll put that in the show notes too. I'm 151 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.839 sure there's an online place to click through and buy it. 152 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.439 So we'll make sure Tom gets well represented in the 153 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:31.560 episode description. Fantastic got back from Seattle yesterday. Basically I 154 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:35.000 did a gig out there with George Norury. Remember George Norris, 155 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:38.439 the general host of that Coast to Coast AM show 156 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:40.759 started out I think as the Art Bell Show, and 157 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.240 now George norriy kind of runs most of that stuff. 158 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.279 And I don't know if they still have guest hosts 159 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.720 or not. I know a woman named Connie Willis did 160 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:50.879 that for a second. But I've been on the George 161 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.120 norri Show a few times. The Coast to Coast AM. 162 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.079 So they did a live event up in Seattle and 163 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:59.959 Everett actually was in Seattle's Everett, just north of Seattle, 164 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:04.319 at a place called the Historic Everett Theater, and that 165 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:08.000 was an interesting show. They had some dude that was 166 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:12.360 into Atlantis, you know Atlantis, you know, like the Fallen City, 167 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:14.439 you know, like the new Manure of Earth. 168 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.600 Yeah, he was on. He did a talk I guess, 169 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:19.279 you know, not a talk. He did an interview with 170 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:20.879 George I guess. And he shows some maps. 171 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:21.279 I guess. 172 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.560 This guy's deal is that he thinks it's in the 173 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.720 South Pacific somewhere. Interesting take, especially since he was written 174 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:29.360 about in Greek literature. Seems like that's a long ways away. 175 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.639 But I don't know, I don't I'm sure he's written 176 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:32.799 a book. I can't remember the guy's name. 177 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:32.879 There. 178 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:35.639 There's another guy named Matthew. That is his titles an 179 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:38.399 AI cosmologist. He seemed to be more like an AI 180 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:41.399 philosopher to me. I think that you can tie in 181 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:44.559 cosmology or whatever to whatever you want, but he seemed 182 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:47.080 to be more of a philosopher because I think the 183 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:50.159 big takeaway from that guy that in his interview with 184 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:54.919 George Nori was, you know, AI wouild will kind of 185 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:58.519 show us what it means to be human once the 186 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:00.879 humanity of so much as strip away. And he was 187 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:04.759 advocating for like a higher consciousness sort of thing with 188 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:10.279 in tangent with AI helpers or something. And it's like, 189 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:12.519 I don't know, whatever, whatever, it's not my gig man, 190 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:15.120 I'm too busy looking for Bigfoot. And then I of 191 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:18.240 course talked to George for about twenty minutes on stage 192 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:20.320 or something like that. I brought a few items for 193 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.399 show and tell, like the butt print. Everybody loves the 194 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:24.799 butt print, and luckily George asked, I said, what do 195 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:26.720 you have in the box? It's not Bigfoot pooh is 196 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.120 it or something like that. I oh, next, best thing, 197 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:33.039 it's like pre Bigfoot Pooh, it's the butt you know. 198 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:35.919 So yeah, so I brought the butt cast out, which 199 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:38.480 everybody loves, of course, and a few footprints and that 200 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.080 kind of thing. I had a good conversation with George. 201 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.399 You know, I don't George is in a Sasquatch Specialists 202 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.080 or anything like that, so his questions are pretty pretty 203 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.279 you know, basic in a lot of ways. And then 204 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.039 I of course took questions from the audience, and one 205 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.679 of our members came up and did a little in 206 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:57.159 the microphone as we started, so I knew, you know, 207 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:00.080 I knew what was up. He gave us the high sign, 208 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:02.080 So thank you very much to that member. I really 209 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.960 really appreciate it. And took a lot of other questions, 210 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.559 and of course, you know me, I'm out there, you know, 211 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.759 buwling the china shop, you know, knocking things over, saying 212 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:13.440 that these things are just perfectly normal mammals. And there 213 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:15.240 are a lot of people coming up, and I remember 214 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:17.559 one guy asked me what he thought would be a 215 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:22.559 challenging question, saying like, I'm a portal guy, So where 216 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.519 do they go? You know, Like like it's like, well, 217 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:26.919 that's that's not going to stump me, Like, what do 218 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.000 you mean where do they go? It's like the answer 219 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.000 isn't like portals. The answer is they just go off 220 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.120 in the woods because you don't follow them. Yeah, they 221 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.919 go everywhere that humans aren't, which is like ninety nine 222 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:39.879 point nine percent of the forest at any given moment, 223 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.879 you know, because there are not humans everywhere, and human 224 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.559 eyes don't see everywhere. So it's really not that hard 225 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.600 an equation. Yeah, yeah, man, I had one. I had something. 226 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.080 I don't know what it was, a bear of bigfoot 227 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.039 and elk, something close to me. This is past week. 228 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:53.799 And I never saw what it was. I still don't 229 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.279 know what it was. And I wasn't that far away, 230 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:57.960 like one hundred yards away, one hundred and fifty yards 231 00:10:57.919 --> 00:10:59.679 away at the most. Yeah, And I have no I 232 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:01.799 ever saw it, tried to see it, never saw it 233 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.759 at all, and don't know what it was. So they 234 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.799 don't have to go anywhere in particular, and they especially 235 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:10.360 don't have to go through a portal. So there's that. 236 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:12.960 But yeah, it was a good time, good gig, a 237 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.720 lot of fun. I didn't know this, but between if 238 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:17.799 you go to one of these live events, George Nori, 239 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:20.279 in between all the interviews, comes out and does a 240 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.679 love ballad. I had no idea that he sings and 241 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:26.240 whatever else. So it was just a fun show. And 242 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.399 of course all the George Norri listeners came out of 243 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.799 the woodwork and came and really enjoyed the show. And 244 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.840 a lot of really eccentric, wonderful weirdos out there at 245 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:38.000 a really good time. I was in basically backstage at 246 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.039 the Muppet Show, hanging out with a bunch of weirdos. 247 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:42.960 It was great, very much in my element. I really 248 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.240 enjoyed it. A lot of great people, a lot of 249 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:46.519 great conversations. 250 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.600 I would expect nothing less from the Northwest. I mean 251 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:51.399 I only lived there for three years, but they were 252 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:55.120 very formative years. I mean I always say, like born 253 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:58.320 and raised in southern Appalachia but forged in the flames 254 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:03.440 of the Pacific Northwest to and there's definitely a Pacific 255 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.000 Northwestern type of character, you know, like that that you 256 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.039 see parody in the same way that I would say 257 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.480 there's a Southerner type of character that I see portrayed 258 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:15.639 on like sketch comedy shows or in movies or that's 259 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:17.600 sort of like satirized. It's like, yeah, I get it, 260 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:19.919 I know people like that. But then when you go 261 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:22.399 to other parts of the country and you see people 262 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.080 there that are like the living examples of the parodies, Like, 263 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:30.679 there's definitely a Pacific Northwestern type of weirdo, you know. 264 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:35.879 And of course you're doing an esoteric, slash, paranormal or 265 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.120 fringe kind of event, you know, strange subjects outside of 266 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:40.960 the box, of course, you're going to get a gathering 267 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:42.039 of those. So that's amazing. 268 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:43.600 It was pretty fun. 269 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:44.039 It was. 270 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:45.679 It was definitely a fun list. It's like a whole 271 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:49.080 theater full of markmer cells, you know, just like good 272 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.159 natured fun people who are into really weird things and 273 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.679 hold these odd beliefs and such, and you know, and 274 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:56.480 I'm one of them too. I get it. I totally 275 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:58.399 get it. I'm not slamming anybody man, because from the 276 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.600 outside looking in, I'm a freak too. Like you think 277 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:03.960 sasquatches are real animals, what's wrong with you? You know? 278 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.279 I get it, I totally get it. We all are 279 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.240 those people. But yeah, it's just just fun. And you 280 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.639 know what's really refreshing for me is because I'm going 281 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.000 to these events and after having these conversations and after 282 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.799 watching the previous interviews and hanging out with the speakers 283 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.840 backstage and and all that sort of stuff, it really 284 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.559 drives home this this unusual idea for me because it's 285 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:32.000 not reinforced very often, this idea, it really drives home 286 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:35.159 of how normal I am. I'm not used to being 287 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.080 the normal guy in the room at all. It's weird 288 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:40.759 when I go because of my family, I'm the weirdest person. 289 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.639 I'm the weirdest person my family's made, you know, and 290 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.039 most of my most of my non bigfoot friends think 291 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.879 I'm freak. My neighbors didn't know what to do with me. 292 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:51.679 That kind of stuff. I'm not used to being the 293 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.720 most normal guy in the room, but I wasn't. I 294 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:55.559 wasn't the most normal guy in the entire theater as 295 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:59.679 far as I could fell. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot 296 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.399 and Yawn with Cliff and Bobo. We'll be right back 297 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:11.000 after these messages. 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That is one of the 324 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:53.320 strangest things about this particular subject, and it comes up 325 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.279 so often in conversations with people, and I really think 326 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.799 it's born of this idea of like the known versus 327 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:01.480 the unknown, and that we make all these allowances for 328 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:05.159 the unknown. Like if you take the Big three, you know, 329 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:10.399 non human intelligence slash extraterrestrial slash UFOs whatever that phenomenon, 330 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:15.080 and then the ghost spirit apparitional phenomenon, and then something 331 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.879 like the sasquatch phenomenon, it's like, well, non human intelligence 332 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.279 UFOs space is vast, it's nearly infinite, so to speak, 333 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:25.720 or at least as far as we can tell or 334 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:28.679 to our perceptions, and so of course there's all kinds 335 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:30.639 of things out there that we can't be expected to 336 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.399 know about yet, and so we make allowances that, oh, yeah, 337 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:36.120 things could come and go, and they'd be hundreds of 338 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.799 thousands or millions or billions of years more advanced than us. 339 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:42.279 And people have no problem assuming that there are entities 340 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:45.320 out there that might come, visit or intervene. And then 341 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.279 the apparitional world like, well, of course there's some degree 342 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.559 of reality that we don't get understand or that we 343 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.000 can't perceive, and there's something about consciousness that doesn't seem 344 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.399 to be time or space bound, and so of course 345 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:01.000 consciousness survives, and the dead come to us or whatever 346 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:05.279 the case may be. You know, these really sort of wild, unverifiable, 347 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:09.000 unfalsifiable things. But then the idea that you know, we 348 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:11.720 know apes exist and there might be one additional ape 349 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.039 on one additional continent is somehow the most taboo, fringe 350 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:24.440 frowned upon, vociferously dismissed, emotionally rejected. You know, people have 351 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:28.319 no problem talking about UFOs or ghosts, but you bring 352 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:30.240 up the sasquatch thing, and they're like, oh, you couldn't 353 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.440 possibly believe that, you know, there's a lot of scorn, 354 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.279 which is so strange. Like in this day and age, 355 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:40.839 it is much easier for an educated person to claim 356 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:46.119 either interest in or contact with non human intelligence or 357 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.920 an apparition that it is for a person like that 358 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:50.440 to come out and say, hey, I think I saw 359 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:53.680 an animal that science hasn't recognized yet. Like that's the 360 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.799 most taboo of all of those claims, which is bizarre 361 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:01.599 because nothing about our propositions require any new science or 362 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:03.160 really any new discoveries. 363 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.720 Yeah, and I said it from the stage that the 364 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:09.920 paranormal model of sasquatches is not it's not congruent, you know. 365 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:14.359 I said, if you ask ten different paranormal advocates about Bigfoot, 366 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:16.680 they're going to give you at least thirteen different answers, 367 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.680 you know, And it was true, true, true. At this 368 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:21.839 gig as well, I had people saying that they went 369 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:25.400 through portholes. One person said he went to some sort 370 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.559 of retreats where the bigfoots went around in the dark, 371 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:30.559 touching them or something like that. I had another person 372 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.400 telling me that they were UFO related or some other 373 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:38.240 biblical people saying that nepheline was involved somehow and interbreeding 374 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.400 with angel and it's like, okay, well proof is in 375 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.720 that pudding there, right, So yeah, just again a lot 376 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.920 of clashing views in the paranormal world, but they can 377 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:51.759 at least all unite against the one that actually makes 378 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:54.160 sense and is internally congruent. 379 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:57.759 It's a bizarre thing, and that's just a consequence of 380 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:02.599 I think a lot of the modern state of not 381 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:06.079 just social media, but media in general, and that a 382 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.559 lot of the barriers have been kicked out and so 383 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:10.960 everyone has a voice in a platform, which is really 384 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.680 good in a lot of ways, but it also has costs. 385 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:16.079 You know, every benefit comes with costs, and every pro 386 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:19.559 with cons And the more that I see the modern 387 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:22.799 landscape of sasquatchry, it's like the creature, let's say, or 388 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:27.599 at least the phenomenon that's described by modern sasquatchy bears 389 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:31.920 like zero resemblance to the creature that's described by history. 390 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:37.119 Evidence and eyewitnesses like those are two very very different things, 391 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:40.599 not just the trace evidence and physical evidence, but the 392 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:44.920 preponderance of eyewitnesses that you can interview in person, you know, 393 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:50.000 let's take away the anonymous YouTubers, the anonymous podcast guests, 394 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:54.039 the YouTube channels or podcasts that read, you know, quote 395 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:58.039 unquote read emails that were submitted by quote unquote witnesses 396 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.960 that don't read like anything one would write. But you know, 397 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:04.119 like the people that you talked to in person, or 398 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.000 that I've talked to in person, or that most devoted 399 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.240 Sasquatch researchers have talked to in person. Like what they're 400 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:15.920 describing bears no resemblance to what the Internet is promoting. 401 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:19.319