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Speaker 2: So I lot to talk about last night's college basketball night,
Speaker 2: first real night. It felt like there were I mean
Speaker 2: it felt like it because it was there were a
Speaker 2: ton of conference games going on. Louisville now five games
Speaker 2: into their ACC slate there four and one, and another
Speaker 2: big victory for them, not only one that came against
Speaker 2: a good team. It them up quite a bit when
Speaker 2: it comes to the net rankings and the Ken Palm
Speaker 2: and whatnot. So I can continue to do it, and
Speaker 2: I will to, you know, to an extent, but I
Speaker 2: feel like I don't the energy that that I that
Speaker 2: fans at least myself, and I know I wasn't alone
Speaker 2: from from the Carolina game. I mean it carried over
Speaker 2: to the Virginia game and then last night's same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a good performance. They're now winning
Speaker 2: games against solid teams to good teams. I think Clemson
Speaker 2: is a pretty good team, you know, at least the
Speaker 2: numbers say that they are. They did beat Kentucky for
Speaker 2: whatever that's worth it, and I think it's actually worth something.
Speaker 2: So you know, they're they're winning and playing good basketball,
Speaker 2: playing hard, and they're doing it without certain things happening
Speaker 2: that I felt like those certain things needed to happen
Speaker 2: for this team to beat maybe anybody, but that's not
Speaker 2: the case. They're they have really gotten gotten comfortable in
Speaker 2: this new version of themselves, and I think they've got
Speaker 2: an identity. And it's great to be able to win
Speaker 2: no matter how you're doing it. But man, if they
Speaker 2: start making shots, if they if they get hot from three,
Speaker 2: who knows how good this team could actually end up being.
Speaker 2: And I mean I say who knows, because you know,
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like they could be pretty damn good.
Speaker 2: But I realized that may sound like I'm getting ahead
Speaker 2: of myself, but just being honest with you, and it's
Speaker 2: nice to, you know, be crazy again and start thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's just not make the tournament, Let's get a good seed,
Speaker 2: and let's go on a run. I mean, who knows
Speaker 2: if any of that will actually happen. But you couldn't
Speaker 2: even you couldn't even manufacture some excitement or you know,
Speaker 2: projection with the previous few seasons we've had. Now at
Speaker 2: least you know you're in a much better situation, and
Speaker 2: this team's only getting better every time I watch him play.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the phone lines BYBO two.
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Speaker 2: if you guys would like to jump in and give
Speaker 2: us a call, And next up is Jerry.
Speaker 3: Jerry, how are we doing.
Speaker 4: I'm good, Nick, appreciate to allow me to talk.
Speaker 5: Of course, my last call, my last call. I guess
Speaker 5: it's been a couple of weeks ago with you. I said,
Speaker 5: we was I thought we were gonna go seventeen fourteen,
Speaker 5: and it's a time I didn't realize that you popped
Speaker 5: on the computer.
Speaker 4: I guess there, and you said Ken pomp said eighteen
Speaker 4: and thirteen.
Speaker 5: After a couple three more wins, I'm hopeful that I'm
Speaker 5: off about four or five wins, and I'm hopeful we
Speaker 5: can do a lot better than seventeen and fourteen.
Speaker 4: You know, I as a fan.
Speaker 3: So I'll just give you the numbers really quick.
Speaker 2: Currently, the Ken Palm has Louisville now going twenty one
Speaker 2: and ten overall and fourteen and six. And to your
Speaker 2: point about just the numbers, I'm kind of thinking for
Speaker 2: if you were to end up being accurate with what
Speaker 2: you'd said a few weeks ago, that would likely mean
Speaker 2: that they've lost to some teams that like they had
Speaker 2: no business losen to, which could happen, right, that's basketball.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that I would imagine you're thinking a little more,
Speaker 2: not necessarily more positively, but like they've kind of shown, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe they can be a little better than we were expecting.
Speaker 2: Because I was with you when you mentioned that record,
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was crazy.
Speaker 5: Well, as a fan, I'm beginning to relate more and
Speaker 5: more to the way Kelsey thinks as far as let's
Speaker 5: just what, Let's just go to the next game, you know,
Speaker 5: because I think you have to handle it like that
Speaker 5: with a team like this. I still, I guess I'm
Speaker 5: still feeling a little jaded from the past two and
Speaker 5: a half three years, because like when I look at
Speaker 5: the schedule still today, I see a lot of the games,
Speaker 5: and maybe I'm looking at it through the last two
Speaker 5: or three years lenses. I still look at those some
Speaker 5: of those games as hey, they're.
Speaker 4: Fifty to fifty games, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean as a fan, As a fan, I look
Speaker 5: at the Virginia game coming to to the young and
Speaker 5: and yeah, I think we should lend that game. But again,
Speaker 5: they've they've probably learned a little bit about themselves, a
Speaker 5: little bit about us, and you never know how the
Speaker 5: damn thing's gonna go. I mean, it's crazy, but I'm
Speaker 5: excited about them.
Speaker 4: I'll say a couple more things.
Speaker 5: Uh, I've given James Scott some hell on this on
Speaker 5: this show, and I still think he lacks a lot.
Speaker 5: I think he's come a long way. I'll stick by this.
Speaker 5: I think he long term.
Speaker 4: I just don't know unless.
Speaker 5: He really makes some huge jumps in his in his
Speaker 5: offensive game, I don't think he's the kind of guy
Speaker 5: that can take you where we want to go, which
Speaker 5: is an elite A to Final four whatever, you know.
Speaker 5: But I mean I do take my hand off to
Speaker 5: him and head a little crow with him. Because I mean,
Speaker 5: he's come so far in the past month is crazy,
Speaker 5: you know. I think he I think he understands his role,
Speaker 5: what he's supposed to do, and he stays in that box,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: He couldn't couldn't have said it better.
Speaker 2: He knows who he is as a player, he knows
Speaker 2: where he can help, and he does the He does
Speaker 2: that those things really really well as of late, and
Speaker 2: that's a quality, that's a trait that players don't get
Speaker 2: enough credit for. But to your point, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're limited.
Speaker 3: He is limited.
Speaker 2: I think he's very limited, which when you look at
Speaker 2: the production he's had recently, it's phenomenal. But if you know,
Speaker 2: at least he's somebody that knows his limitations and sticks
Speaker 2: with what he does well, I think Kelsey, you know, clearly,
Speaker 2: I think that they should develop him.
Speaker 3: I think his development could go a long way.
Speaker 2: I don't know what his ceiling is as far as
Speaker 2: just being able to score and be an offensive threat
Speaker 2: other than just dunking the ball, But at least as
Speaker 2: of now, I kind of feel like you're getting the
Speaker 2: absolute most you can out of him recently here.
Speaker 5: Right, And so I'll say a couple more things I'll
Speaker 5: jump off here.
Speaker 4: I looked at a lot.
Speaker 5: Of things today, and I think there's about.
Speaker 4: Fifteen or sixteen teams that can win the whole thing.
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna give you my dark horse, and then
Speaker 5: I want to say one thing about agents. My dark
Speaker 5: horse is a team. It's pretty high in ken palm,
Speaker 5: but not high in the ap right now. I watched
Speaker 5: him play the other day. I saw again what they
Speaker 5: did last night. My dark horse is Michigan, Okay, which
Speaker 5: is funny because I wasn't for Dusty Mate coming.
Speaker 4: Here at all. But I think he's doing a hell
Speaker 4: of a job. I watched him play Western.
Speaker 5: They went nineteen or forty from the three point line.
Speaker 4: Wow last night?
Speaker 5: Last night you cla on the road. They went fifteen
Speaker 5: of twenty eight in their last three games Sandwich those
Speaker 5: two with USC in the middle, they're shooting almost forty
Speaker 5: eight percent from the three point line. Add add two
Speaker 5: seven footers to that mix, and they are a dangerous
Speaker 5: team if they don't have any injuries. Michigan is my
Speaker 5: dark horse to win the whole thing. I think that
Speaker 5: guy's I mean, I give him no credit when he
Speaker 5: wanted when we were talking about bringing him here. I
Speaker 5: called him vanilla and everything else. I think Dusty May's
Speaker 5: doing a hell of a job. If I'm an Indiana fan,
Speaker 5: I am sick because I held on to Woodson and
Speaker 5: didn't jump at him.
Speaker 3: Probably promise you thought about that.
Speaker 4: Okay, And then one more thing, you're talking agents.
Speaker 5: I was talking to a buddy today about Pat Kelsey,
Speaker 5: and I said, what happens with his contract at the
Speaker 5: end of this year? If his trajectory continues, great point,
Speaker 5: is he gonna double or triple his salary. It's gonna
Speaker 5: be one or the other. He's gonna easily double it,
Speaker 5: and he may triple it or more. And you know,
Speaker 5: it just depends on you know, if he can go
Speaker 5: twenty two and nine in a regular season, make some
Speaker 5: noise in the Act tournament, win a game or two
Speaker 5: in the in the n C Double A Tournament. The
Speaker 5: easiest job in the city is his agents.
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
Speaker 4: He's gonna he's gonna cash in. That's all I got, Nick.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Jerry good, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So a couple of takeaways, uh, and some some
Speaker 2: reaction to Jerry's call. Then we'll get to the we'll
Speaker 2: get back to the phone lines. I promise you won't
Speaker 2: we won't leave you holden too long. But when it
Speaker 2: comes to James Scott, I off, I agreed with Jerry
Speaker 2: when it comes to his limitations offensively and if he's
Speaker 2: out there and he's gonna shoot poorly at the line
Speaker 2: and just kind of be in the way offensively and
Speaker 2: sometimes not be effective on the glass, like, you know,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to play him.
Speaker 3: You need him. You don't have a whole lot of options.
Speaker 3: But you know, I.
Speaker 2: Started to worry, like maybe maybe you go even smaller
Speaker 2: than you tip than you then you typically are going.
Speaker 2: But really, since then, James Scott, it's it's not like
Speaker 2: he's added some new element to his game offensively, but man,
Speaker 2: he's able to get to his spot, which is, you know,
Speaker 2: right next to the rim, throw it up and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna dunk it, and that is I mean, there's not
Speaker 2: many guys that can do that. But yet here he
Speaker 2: is getting double double digits and points for the you know,
Speaker 2: pretty consistently lately. And it's because of that, and he
Speaker 2: shot it a little bit better at the free throw
Speaker 2: line as well, and man, he played like a man
Speaker 2: possessed last night with those block shots. He was all
Speaker 2: over the backboard. I still don't know what the ceiling
Speaker 2: is for him as far as a guy that you
Speaker 2: know could be a pro, because, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: it may sound crazy to say that, but that was
Speaker 2: the talk from whenever. You know, when he finished his
Speaker 2: freshman season for Pat and at Charleston, there were some
Speaker 2: folks that thought that he he legitimately could blossohim into
Speaker 2: being an NBA guy just because of his length, as
Speaker 2: athleticism and how raw he was. And honestly, he's still
Speaker 2: very much raw, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll eventually
Speaker 2: be some great, polished offensive player. But at six eleven,
Speaker 2: two twenty, I mean, and a guy that can run
Speaker 2: rim run like that, I mean, he's again, I go
Speaker 2: back to what I said initially after Jerry's comments about
Speaker 2: James Scott. For what he is right now, he deserves
Speaker 2: a ton of credit for doing exactly that, doing those
Speaker 2: things really well. But Pat Kelsey is getting getting the
Speaker 2: absolute maximum out of him right now. And that's what
Speaker 2: you want. I mean, that's that's that's what you That's
Speaker 2: what every coach hopes to get is the most they
Speaker 2: can out of every individual player that they have to
Speaker 2: work with. And you know, right now, guys aren't making shots.
Speaker 2: But I feel like this team like you're getting what
Speaker 2: these guys are giving you. I mean, I don't really,
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody that that that's you know,
Speaker 2: under underperforming as far as what we know they can do.
Speaker 2: Terrence Edwards didn't have a hadn't had a couple of
Speaker 2: good nights, has had two games where he hasn't scored
Speaker 2: quite as much, but he's still making an impact in
Speaker 2: every other way. And Javon Hadley can give you thirty
Speaker 2: two every you know, I would say that's probably going
Speaker 2: to be his career high. But you know, this team,
Speaker 2: they're clicking right now. You know when I say that,
Speaker 2: You know that when I talk, But they're ceiling. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're gonna be able to get these guys,
Speaker 2: you know, playing a whole lot better, But it just
Speaker 2: comes down to like making shots, right Like you're able
Speaker 2: to win games right now, four straight conference wins against
Speaker 2: by double digits against teams with a winning record. I
Speaker 2: mean that, as we discussed earlier, that hasn't happened in
Speaker 2: a long time. And you know, I think if you
Speaker 2: see a few more threes go in for the duo
Speaker 2: of Watermen and rain Smith, I mean imagine, I mean
Speaker 2: that could that could take a game from being you know,
Speaker 2: you win in by eight or nine, or you know,
Speaker 2: you win a by twenty so and not to say
Speaker 2: that that's luck, but look, sometimes guys are just going
Speaker 2: to make shots and sometimes they're not right. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's basketball. And you know, it's frustrating and maddening
Speaker 2: if you're getting good looks and you're not making them,
Speaker 2: and we've certainly seen this team do that this year.
Speaker 2: But I think they're playing so well in every other area.
Speaker 2: They're actually getting better looks than they've ever gotten, and
Speaker 2: sometimes they're not falling, and that's going to happen. But
Speaker 2: I think there's value in knowing, hey, we're getting what
Speaker 2: we want and trusting that eventually these shots are going
Speaker 2: to fall. And again, what I've seen recently from this
Speaker 2: team that I never thought we'd see just because I didn't,
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't really have any reason to expect it.
Speaker 2: They're they're having off nights shooting, they're shooting poorly at
Speaker 2: the line at home, like they did against Carolina, which
Speaker 2: I say that like I'm bragging.
Speaker 3: It's not a good thing. It's an issue.
Speaker 2: But they're so they're playing so sharp in every other
Speaker 2: area they've been able to still just go out there
Speaker 2: and beat up teams. All right, let's go back to
Speaker 2: the phone lines. Five way two, five seven, one seventy
Speaker 2: nine hundred is the number. If you'd like to jump
Speaker 2: in and give us a call. Let's welcome in, Allison, Allison.
Speaker 6: How you doing, Dick, I'm great.
Speaker 3: How are you doing well? Good to hear from you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you too.
Speaker 6: So you know, I remember my love for PK and
Speaker 6: how it was all about him and I wanted him
Speaker 6: here so bad, and I just I don't think there
Speaker 6: was a better fit out there. Listen, go watch Jay
Speaker 6: Billis did a ninety feet with Dusty May. It's not
Speaker 6: a fit for us. We needed more than a basketball coach.
Speaker 6: We needed somebody that had the type of energy that
Speaker 6: Pat Kelsey cats, that man rides his bike to work
Speaker 6: in read's books.
Speaker 5: If that's what you like, that's what you like.
Speaker 6: That's not what we needed at the University of Louisville.
Speaker 6: We needed somebody that was going to bring exactly what
Speaker 6: we got out of PK and you know, just some
Speaker 6: notes from last night, the physicality of that team, and
Speaker 6: they are so physical. They fight, they crawl, they scrap,
Speaker 6: and we haven't seen that so long. And I think
Speaker 6: you're a epitome of your head coach, and you know
Speaker 6: your staff, and you see that with Pat and you
Speaker 6: see that out of his team, and you know, Jerry
Speaker 6: much respect, man, But give me a fully healthy Louisville
Speaker 6: team against that Michigan team any day, because the athleticism
Speaker 6: that we have with the fully healthy team, it's not
Speaker 6: even close. And just another point, Nick is chucky, you know,
Speaker 6: had an off night, but he was a leader on
Speaker 6: the floor and he's in the gym at eleven pm
Speaker 6: shooting eight hundred shots, you know, saying I'll never do
Speaker 6: that again. I mean, we haven't had that type of
Speaker 6: energy and long and it's just grave, Nick. It's a
Speaker 6: great feeling and you can just tell every loved it.
Speaker 6: I mean, when you're walking out of the game last night,
Speaker 6: the concession stands are chanting cards, the parking garage they're
Speaker 6: chanting cards. I mean, I haven't heard that in forever.
Speaker 3: It's been a while.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, that's all I got, Nick, and I'll hang up.
Speaker 3: And listen, appreciate it. Thank you, Allison. She's right.
Speaker 2: The vibes have never been better for Louisville basketball. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess they have when Louisville you know, was winning
Speaker 2: national championships and whatnot. And you know, we've had three
Speaker 2: of them in the existence of the program. Two in
Speaker 2: my life or yeah, one in my lifetime, two that
Speaker 2: I missed out on. So I just think the reason
Speaker 2: we're seeing some of those things that she mentioned is
Speaker 2: because we had Again, like I talked about it yesterday,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to get so deep, but the success
Speaker 2: that Louisville's having now and us getting back to kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, being alive. I thought it would make me
Speaker 2: not even believe that the last three years happened. But
Speaker 2: in fact, I'm reminded often because I I just am
Speaker 2: so excited about what's going on now and I hate
Speaker 2: to even call it a silver lining, but that's made
Speaker 2: this stuff even more special. So, yeah, the vibes are
Speaker 2: great right now. And look when it comes to things
Speaker 2: like Chucky Hepburn doing that. You know he played at Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: Clearly that's a good program. So I don't act like
Speaker 2: he came from you know, nowhere, But these guys like
Speaker 2: they really feel privileged to be here. They like Javon
Speaker 2: Hadley having thirty two points last night in front of
Speaker 2: that crowd with them chanting Hadley like, yeah, he's played
Speaker 2: at Colorado. That's a decent program, but like that, like Louisville,
Speaker 2: it's just different and you can tell and these guys
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And that's why I've said it for the
Speaker 2: last few weeks. It's I think always been the case,
Speaker 2: but it's really stood out that everybody from top to
Speaker 2: bottom right now within the program, all players, everybody that
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey has working for him, they have a level
Speaker 2: of like, wow, this is awesome.
Speaker 3: We're at Louisville.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give everything we have because this is such
Speaker 2: a phenomenal place to be.
Speaker 3: Let's make the most of it, like we got this.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's a dream come true
Speaker 2: for everybody, but he wouldn't shock me if it is
Speaker 2: for a lot of folks. And with Chucky, you know
Speaker 2: a lot like right now, Chucky, I would have never
Speaker 2: even believed you about Chucky statline, if I didn't see
Speaker 2: with my own eyes as far as the numbers because
Speaker 2: you know, I saw I miss some shots, but he
Speaker 2: was also impacting the game and playing really well in
Speaker 2: every other phase. Just locking people up defensively, just an
Speaker 2: absolute pest on the defensive side. But you know what,
Speaker 2: for him, he wants to get back to work right
Speaker 2: after the game and gets six hundred shots up because
Speaker 2: he missed some shots, Like, that's just good. That's the
Speaker 2: kind of energy and culture to where you know you're
Speaker 2: much more likely to have long term success. And one
Speaker 2: thing I want to get to on the other side,
Speaker 2: because Allison's absolutely right, there was something about Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: that clearly Josh Hurd knew was going to be very
Speaker 2: vital in not only winning, but like things we needed
Speaker 2: as far as the healing process, right somebody, because I
Speaker 2: don't think Louisville fans could ever get tired of Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey talking about how great Louisville is and how lucky
Speaker 2: he feels to be here. I mean, it would get
Speaker 2: a little repetitive, I suppose, but I think it's genuine
Speaker 2: and that that to me, has been a big, big
Speaker 2: step in the healing process. We'll get to that and
Speaker 2: a lot more on the other side. Stick around. If
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Speaker 2: It still feels really weird that we have college football
Speaker 2: playoff games tomorrow and on Friday, but I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to it. We've got some good games, at least I
Speaker 2: believe they're going to be good games. And James Franklin
Speaker 2: said that he believes that everybody should have to be
Speaker 2: in a conference. And I don't think that's like a
Speaker 2: crazy thing to say, but I guess it's just because
Speaker 2: until Notre Dame starts scheduling like weak teams, Like if
Speaker 2: Notre Dame just really decided to no longer play the
Speaker 2: same put it this way, if Notre Dame no longer
Speaker 2: had the scheduling arrangement with the ACC where they're required
Speaker 2: to play four games every year against the conference, I mean,
Speaker 2: they're kind of in the ACC, which you know is weak,
Speaker 2: but it's it is what it is. So if they
Speaker 2: lost that arrangement and they had a tough time getting
Speaker 2: other g four teams to play them just because that's
Speaker 2: a really strong out of conference game. Then at that
Speaker 2: point then then the committee would just have to say, look,
Speaker 2: we're sorry, you can't like. You're you're eligible, but because
Speaker 2: of your schedule, like we can't like doesn't matter. So
Speaker 2: they you know, that would be the only reason that
Speaker 2: that would ever like that they would ever need to
Speaker 2: join a conference. But they're not going to do that.
Speaker 2: They're going to continue to schedule. I mean, if the
Speaker 2: college football world wanted to, well, I guess not because
Speaker 2: the if the college I was gonna say the college
Speaker 2: football world wanted to band together and really four Notre
Speaker 2: Dame to get into a conference, what they would have
Speaker 2: to do is nobody agree to schedule them. The ACC
Speaker 2: no longer require I mean, look, the commissioners can tell
Speaker 2: their schools we don't want you to play them, and
Speaker 2: that that is quite literally. What would what would get
Speaker 2: them to either to join a league. I don't know
Speaker 2: if anybody would really care to do that, because, let's
Speaker 2: be honest, you benefit from Notre Dame. That gives you
Speaker 2: a chance to get a valuable win. You know, Notre
Speaker 2: Dame is such a unique program because nobody else could
Speaker 2: be independent and come close to making the playoff, you.
Speaker 3: Just wouldn't be able to. And you wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 2: Not only that, you wouldn't be able to survive like
Speaker 2: you need the benefits of playing in a conference in
Speaker 2: that revenue share, right, like you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: survive without getting a humongous check that you get every
Speaker 2: year from the league due to your TV network, right
Speaker 2: like the SEC network money.
Speaker 3: And you know the old the grain of rights that each.
Speaker 2: Of these conferences, each of these power come conferences have,
Speaker 2: and even not the power conferences like the ACC clearly
Speaker 2: has fallen behind and there's gonna be an even bigger
Speaker 2: gap down the line between what they make annually and
Speaker 2: what the SEC and the Big ten make. But still
Speaker 2: they need that money. So Notre Dame doesn't. They have
Speaker 2: their own net deal with with with NBC. Therefore they're
Speaker 2: not they don't need that check, so they can do
Speaker 2: whatever they want. And they have a schedule in place
Speaker 2: that that will be comparable enough to those that play
Speaker 2: in power leagues or even G five leagues, and that'll
Speaker 2: you know, if they win, they're gonna get in. So
Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't really know what case
Speaker 2: you could make as to why they would have They
Speaker 2: have to be in a league, and I'm sure James
Speaker 2: Franklin's argument was and it was somewhat about you know,
Speaker 2: competition and whatnot, and what it's like to just be
Speaker 2: in the grind of a of a conference game every
Speaker 2: week when you get to a certain point in the scene.
Speaker 2: But they're just able to do it where nobody else
Speaker 2: would be able to and I think that bothers people, right,
Speaker 2: And a lot of people criticize their schedule, and this
Speaker 2: year their schedule actually managed to not be that challenging.
Speaker 2: But more often than not, whenever people claim Notre Dame
Speaker 2: not being in a league results in them getting a
Speaker 2: week schedule and just getting the benefit of the doubt,
Speaker 2: that's never actually been the case. Like the years they've
Speaker 2: been able to make the playoff and get blown out,
Speaker 2: or make the title game in the BCS formula and
Speaker 2: get blown out, there really was never any claim that
Speaker 2: they didn't belong there.
Speaker 3: They played ay, They've always played a tough schedule.
Speaker 2: And if they win a bunch of games, you know,
Speaker 2: it's one of the frustrating things about the playoff and
Speaker 2: really just you know when it comes to I guess
Speaker 2: really just the college football playoff, because there's really no
Speaker 2: other like if you get beat in the if you're
Speaker 2: a bubble team and you get in the tournament and
Speaker 2: get blown out, well sixty eight teams get in, so
Speaker 2: you getting beat as a bubble team doesn't mean the
Speaker 2: committee got it wrong. It just means that you know,
Speaker 2: you barely got in and you were who everybody thought
Speaker 2: you were in college football. When the team gets in
Speaker 2: the playoff and then they get blown out, it's always
Speaker 2: just automatically left people thinking, well, that means that they
Speaker 2: didn't belong there. No, it just means they they got there,
Speaker 2: but they played a team better than them. So anyways,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, I feel like they got as good a
Speaker 2: shot as anybody left in this whole thing, and I'm
Speaker 2: kind of pulling for him, which feels weird.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: And I guess what it comes down to is it
Speaker 2: just it'll it'll leave not the Big Ten or the
Speaker 2: SEC will not be able to claim that they run college.
Speaker 3: Football, and that would be fun. I mean that.
Speaker 2: I think that's the reason alone that I would that
Speaker 2: I would want that to happen and I've never been
Speaker 2: anti Notre Dame. I know a lot of people don't
Speaker 2: really care for him, and I get it, but I've
Speaker 2: never really cared one way or the other, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you. But real quick when it comes to
Speaker 2: the let's see if I can pull this up here.
Speaker 2: Ross Dellingser put together an interesting column earlier that I
Speaker 2: haven't been able to finish, but I did read about
Speaker 2: half of it before we came back from break. But
Speaker 2: just this alone as wild but from two that listen
Speaker 2: to this from two thous and in six to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, sixteen of seventeen national champions came from the
Speaker 2: Deep South, And for a second straight year, the region
Speaker 2: is out before the title game. And it's just another
Speaker 2: example that NIL and the portal, it's dispersing talent and
Speaker 2: it's even things up quite and it's proved that's played
Speaker 2: out to be the case there, you know the others
Speaker 2: like I don't think the portal and the NIL changes
Speaker 2: within college sports has made those programs that were really
Speaker 2: successful prior to this new era any worse Like they're
Speaker 2: not any worse off, it's just others have been able
Speaker 2: to use this new world and kind of trim that
Speaker 2: gap a little bit or even past you at times.
Speaker 3: So interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: Right back to the louisvill basketball conversation that we were
Speaker 2: having with their callers there in the first segment, Well
Speaker 2: open up the phone lines coming up here again. If
Speaker 2: you guys want to get involved and give us a call,
Speaker 2: we'll do that probably closer to the five o'clock hour.
Speaker 2: But one of the things Allison said about Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: was just how it was such a great fit and
Speaker 2: how other coaches that were candidates or that were offered
Speaker 2: the job or that fans wanted they may not have
Speaker 2: been the fit that Pat Kelsey was.
Speaker 3: And I mean that's true, and I think.
Speaker 2: We all, like I've always thought that fit is a
Speaker 2: really silly thing to mention, and I still believe it's
Speaker 2: oftentimes used and and I think it's just a cop out, right, like,
Speaker 2: well he didn't work, he just wasn't a good fit.
Speaker 2: Well he didn't win, or she didn't win, Like it's
Speaker 2: more often than not, that's all it comes down to.
Speaker 2: Because you know what, if a coach is having a
Speaker 2: whole lot of success, he's gonna fit in fine anywhere.
Speaker 2: If a coach is having a lot of success. There's
Speaker 2: no scenario where he's not fitting in nicely. I mean,
Speaker 2: he may do something off the corridor field or you know,
Speaker 2: scandal related, and that'll just get your ass fired anywhere.
Speaker 2: But that had nothing to do with about a fit.
Speaker 2: Like when I hear people say it, well, it just
Speaker 2: didn't fit.
Speaker 3: No, he just wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, now, baby, he wasn't good enough because he
Speaker 2: wasn't a fit, right, Like, maybe those two can work together,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, winning and losing
Speaker 2: is why you fit.
Speaker 3: And I think.
Speaker 2: Kelsey is the perfect fit for Louisville fans at the
Speaker 2: perfect time. Doesn't mean he's gonna win national championships here.
Speaker 2: None of us know how this thing is gonna work
Speaker 2: out long term. But I think Josh heard, and again
Speaker 2: you've had people over the over the last few months
Speaker 2: kind of ask me, are you gonna.
Speaker 3: Apologize to Josh Heard? Are you no? What would I
Speaker 3: apologize for? One? I never said he made a terrible hire.
Speaker 2: I I mean, I you know, you lose a lot
Speaker 2: of context with tweets or whatnot, But peck peck Kelsey
Speaker 2: being hired and Josh making that move him even considering
Speaker 2: him and interviewing him and it working out like it
Speaker 2: has thus far. Is is a big win for Josh
Speaker 2: heard in every way. And I'm in no way ever
Speaker 2: going to try to take anything away from her for
Speaker 2: hiring Kelsey because he, I mean, he did it, and
Speaker 2: a lot of people were against it. A lot of
Speaker 2: people would not have done it.
Speaker 3: He did it.
Speaker 2: He took a risk, he saw something and clearly right
Speaker 2: now I think the return is pretty damn good and
Speaker 2: the future looks pretty bright. But my criticism throughout that
Speaker 2: whole search was that it just the optics weren't great.
Speaker 2: He was not a well run search. Doesn't mean you
Speaker 2: didn't get a guy that's great, it's just you know,
Speaker 2: and I don't know who's at fault for that or
Speaker 2: why that ended up happening, but you know, and none
Speaker 2: of that matters. But like they went after Dusty May,
Speaker 2: and Dusty May did not want Louisville. Dusty May knew
Speaker 2: he wasn't a good fit. And I give him a
Speaker 2: lot of credit for that because he's right. Doesn't mean
Speaker 2: he's not a great coach, but like he's you know,
Speaker 2: he's he knew that, like his personality would not would
Speaker 2: not be a good fit here and that would impact
Speaker 2: his ability to win. And that's what both sides want,
Speaker 2: right He wants to win as a coach and Louisville
Speaker 2: wants a winning program. But the two weren't gonna do
Speaker 2: exist together to I mean, it just wasn't a good fit.
Speaker 2: So we were lucky that that happened.
Speaker 3: Well then.
Speaker 2: Josh Shirtz, I mean Josh shirts was offered the job
Speaker 2: and could not take it, and I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I think that is that's a blessing. That's a win,
Speaker 2: you know, and I you know, I will be consistent
Speaker 2: whenever it got down to the names of shirts May
Speaker 2: and Kelsey.
Speaker 3: I mean, go back and listen to the podcast. I
Speaker 3: wanted Kelsey.
Speaker 2: I just never thought they would get to that point,
Speaker 2: and they did, and it worked out great because now
Speaker 2: I think they've got a guy who, again it's the
Speaker 2: perfect fit, and he's a good I mean, I think
Speaker 2: he's a good enough coach to really succeed here. But
Speaker 2: clearly he's going to utilize resources he's never had as
Speaker 2: a coach at a place like Louisville, and he's going
Speaker 2: to go from being you know, successful at Winthrop and
Speaker 2: Charleston to being successful at Louisville. I think that's I mean,
Speaker 2: who knows that that's gonna end up playing out that way,
Speaker 2: but so far, I mean, this guy is having success
Speaker 2: right now. We just mentioned this earlier. And it's not
Speaker 2: like I'm cherry picking specific, you know, but like this
Speaker 2: is pretty telling. This This is from Kelly Dickey posted.
Speaker 3: This last night.
Speaker 2: Louisville has won double digits against four straight conference opponents
Speaker 2: with winning records for the first time since twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: So again, like he's doing this, and that's not say
Speaker 2: they're going to go win a title like they did
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, but he's doing this with two key
Speaker 2: components that we're supposed to be big parts of this team.
Speaker 2: And sure enough, what do they do. They didn't make excuses,
Speaker 2: They got back to work. They realize, hey, next man up,
Speaker 2: let's move forward and try to be the best team
Speaker 2: we can be. Come to work every day with a
Speaker 2: good attitude of relentless work ethic, and see what we
Speaker 2: can do. And right now they're playing better basketball than
Speaker 2: I would have ever envisioned when it comes to seeing
Speaker 2: this team get gutted by injuries earlier this year. So
Speaker 2: you know, Pat Kelsey is a fit for a lot
Speaker 2: of reasons. One, you know, he seems to really embrace
Speaker 2: the crazy that we bring here as Louisville fans. He's hungry, right,
Speaker 2: this is something he probably didn't expect. Meaning a year ago,
Speaker 2: I doubt he would have believed you if you told
Speaker 2: him he was going to be Louisville's head coach. But
Speaker 2: sure enough, he worked hard, he got the opportunity, and
Speaker 2: he's he's he's gonna win here did trying, it seems, so,
Speaker 2: you know, credit to Josh Hurt in a major way.
Speaker 2: And and I choose to believe that that Josh Hurt
Speaker 2: didn't just say, Okay, this guy's been pretty good at
Speaker 2: Charleston at Winthrop, and he's probably going to be on
Speaker 2: the cheaper side. We know he won't say no, so
Speaker 2: we'll keep him in the mix. No, I think clearly
Speaker 2: Josh Hurd said this guy man, he could get to
Speaker 2: work and he could have an attitude about him, and
Speaker 2: and you know, he has charisma that has never been
Speaker 2: needed more than it is right now. And with all
Speaker 2: the resources we have, he could really maximize what can
Speaker 2: be done here. And again, so far, I think you've
Speaker 2: seen from day one that this looks like that's what
Speaker 2: this guy's going to be able to do. And I
Speaker 2: was really worried because had there had they been a
Speaker 2: team that, you know, really struggled because of injuries, and
Speaker 2: it just seemed really obvious that you're missing a guy
Speaker 2: like Korn Johnson, you're missing a guy like Cason Pryor.
Speaker 2: Had that happened, you know, he probably would have been
Speaker 2: like a decent team maybe five hundred and most people
Speaker 2: would have, you know, understood that, like, hey, that's not great,
Speaker 2: but geez, it's a lot better than what we had recently,
Speaker 2: and there were injuries at play. So but I was
Speaker 2: because I would have still been super positive about Pat
Speaker 2: had that been the case, because I would have realized, look,
Speaker 2: he's probably doing the best he can given what happened
Speaker 2: with the injuries. But now here he is a month
Speaker 2: later or five weeks or so removed from those injuries,
Speaker 2: and he's got this team playing really good basketball, looking
Speaker 2: like a tournament team for sure, looking like a team
Speaker 2: that might be able to make some noise.
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they're not even shooting the
Speaker 3: ball well, So.
Speaker 2: You know, I I don't just I don't think, you know,
Speaker 2: Some may say, like it's luck that it worked that
Speaker 2: it's working out like this because of where Kelsey was
Speaker 2: perceived to be on the on the on the list,
Speaker 2: But I think clearly the way this is working out
Speaker 2: there's there's not only was his resume good as far
Speaker 2: as the wins and losses at his previous two stops,
Speaker 2: He's got something about him that is perfect for us,
Speaker 2: and we needed that in a major way. Dusty May,
Speaker 2: I just you know, great coach, but like I don't
Speaker 2: think he'd be giving us what Pat's given us when
Speaker 2: it comes to just the non basketball stuff that you know,
Speaker 2: we kind of need.
Speaker 3: We we're a rare fan base. We're not alone in that.
Speaker 2: Tier as far as those that are obsessed about basketball,
Speaker 2: but that's a that's a different type of animal for
Speaker 2: certain coaches. And respect to Dusty May for knowing that
Speaker 2: like that, ain't me wouldn't do well there, because that
Speaker 2: it makes total sense. Another name that was floated out there.
Speaker 2: It's a good's going to be a good transition here.
Speaker 2: Because Mick Cronin lost last night, got blown out by Michigan.
Speaker 2: Dusty May took him down. Two guys that you know,
Speaker 2: you heard their names quite a bit when Louisville's job
Speaker 2: opened up and Mick Cronan, I mean, you guys know
Speaker 2: how I feel about him, but I'll let you hear
Speaker 2: what he had to say about his team last night.
Speaker 2: You tell me if that would have been the kind
Speaker 2: of energy we needed around here after what just went
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Speaker 2: Day, UCLA got off to a good start this year
Speaker 2: in basketball, really bad year last year for Mick Cronin
Speaker 2: while he was, of course being mentioned for the Louisville job.
Speaker 3: By a lot of folks, and you could have done
Speaker 3: a lot, you could have done a lot worse.
Speaker 2: Mc cronin is a good coach, and I never claimed
Speaker 2: that he wasn't, but I just don't think that his
Speaker 2: resume was ever really all that impressive. I mean, I
Speaker 2: couldn't even get started in the conversation about Mick as
Speaker 2: the coach here, not only because I found him to
Speaker 2: be very unlikable and he just seems like a miserable man.
Speaker 2: And I don't want people telling me that I look
Speaker 2: like him, And you know, that was something on my
Speaker 2: mind as far.
Speaker 3: I forget that that was a thing.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a thing, but people try to make it
Speaker 2: a thing. Let's get that real, Let's get that real clear.
Speaker 2: But anyways, even if people didn't allege that we looked alike,
Speaker 2: I just did buyout was insane, Like nobody you couldn't
Speaker 2: pay that buyout for any college basketball coach and justify it.
Speaker 2: And if you were going to justify it, or at
Speaker 2: least attempt to, he would not be the guy. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think his resume is really that impressive at all.
Speaker 2: I think there's context. He's a good coach, but like
Speaker 2: his win totals I think are super inflated. He was
Speaker 2: not good at Cincinnati when they were in the Big East,
Speaker 2: when it was actually, you know, a great league. He
Speaker 2: got all of his wins when Cincinnati shifted over to
Speaker 2: the American Athletic Conference and he was historically known for
Speaker 2: being a bomb in the tournament. And then he made
Speaker 2: a final four in the COVID year Like, so, you know,
Speaker 2: he's not a bad coach. I just I never in
Speaker 2: any way thought it would work here, And one of
Speaker 2: the reasons was just because I didn't think it would
Speaker 2: be really a good fit at all, because you needed
Speaker 2: somebody that would be really appreciative of being at Louisville
Speaker 2: and would be hungry, and he just isn't that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think he would value the louis of a job
Speaker 2: if it was one that you know, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think he knows louis was a good job, but like
Speaker 2: he's not one of those guys that's like going to
Speaker 2: succeed here trying. He would, you know, probably blame it
Speaker 2: on Louisville if he couldn't win here. So last night
Speaker 2: they lost by twenty points to Michigan. And as I
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, Dusty May he's also a name that was
Speaker 2: mentioned for Louisville, and he's doing really well at Michigan
Speaker 2: and good coach. But you know, if he won here
Speaker 2: in a big way, then it would have worked out,
Speaker 2: because you know, it would have.
Speaker 3: Been a fit.
Speaker 2: But I could see why he would look at Louisville
Speaker 2: and not necessarily think that, you know, it would be
Speaker 2: the right place for him when he certainly had other options,
Speaker 2: like you know, Michigan, which is.
Speaker 3: Also a really good job.
Speaker 2: So anyways, CrowdIn last night after getting beat by twenty
Speaker 2: points to Michigan and Dusty May. This is a little
Speaker 2: montage of him postgame, and I'll just let you hear
Speaker 2: for yourself.
Speaker 7: But we don't play. We're soft. So don't tell me
Speaker 7: you want to win, Like, just don't tell me you
Speaker 7: want to win. So don't just don't tell me you
Speaker 7: want to win.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: And it's every day.
Speaker 7: I'm tired of it.
Speaker 4: It's every day.
Speaker 7: I have the most energy of all of anybody at practice.
Speaker 7: Every day I have I'm upset with everybody in that
Speaker 7: locker room, my assistant coaches and my players. I mean,
Speaker 7: I don't need to do anything else. I almost got
Speaker 7: five hundred wins. I'm only fifty three. I mean, it's
Speaker 7: a joke.
Speaker 4: It's a joke.
Speaker 7: But yet I come in and I have more passion
Speaker 7: and energy and pride than everybody.
Speaker 4: And that's the problem.
Speaker 7: So what the truth of it has been, it's really
Speaker 7: hard to coach people that are delusional, the hungry dog
Speaker 7: gets the bumb We got guys that think they're way
Speaker 7: better than they are. They're nice kids, they're completely delusional
Speaker 7: about who they are.
Speaker 2: So I mean first off, really unlikable guy, right, like weird.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can respect the hell out of Mit
Speaker 2: Cronin and you can think he's a phenomenal coach and
Speaker 2: that I'm dead wrong that he's not elite, But who
Speaker 2: would say, yeah, he seems like a real nice guy.
Speaker 3: He seems like a guy i'd want to hang out with.
Speaker 3: And look and look, that's not a crime. And to
Speaker 3: a lot of people doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Like you could be an unlikable guy, but if you
Speaker 2: went at a high level, your fans are going to
Speaker 2: ride with you. And if and if you've won at
Speaker 2: a high level and then you're not and you're unlikable,
Speaker 2: they'll live with it for a little while. You know that,
Speaker 2: you know that you can talk down like look at Cal,
Speaker 2: like Cal went from Cal was the same guy. It
Speaker 2: just grew really really stale because he stopped succeeding and
Speaker 2: then he became even more cal like with just you know,
Speaker 2: trolling his own fan base, that kind of stuff. So look,
Speaker 2: Mick Cronin, Look, I have no problem with him saying
Speaker 2: what he said last night. I didn't bring this up
Speaker 2: or share this sound to like say he's the worst
Speaker 2: guy ever, but one not a relikable guy, clearly thinks
Speaker 2: very highly of himself. He kind of told us without
Speaker 2: even really you know, me realizing it after playing the
Speaker 2: sound he pretty much said that he wouldn't be humbled
Speaker 2: to become a Louisville right, Like he he doesn't need
Speaker 2: to do anything else. He already thinks, like as of
Speaker 2: right now with his win total and he's not even
Speaker 2: what fifty three, like he thinks that, you know, he's
Speaker 2: already he's already accomplished everything he.
Speaker 3: Needs to accomplish.
Speaker 2: I mean, he got one, he got one final four
Speaker 2: and you know it was during a year where like
Speaker 2: it wasn't really a season.
Speaker 3: Because Johnny choosing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was you know, it counts and
Speaker 2: you know, but but like he would have been the
Speaker 2: worst fit it. Look, he's a good coach to where
Speaker 2: like we would have been way better than we were
Speaker 2: with Kenny Payne, and you know, we would have been
Speaker 2: a good program. But I think the ceiling is way
Speaker 2: higher with a guy like Pat Kelsey, who you know, Look,
Speaker 2: maybe Mick Cronin would have gotten it done and we
Speaker 2: would have complained early on because he would have talked
Speaker 2: down to us as fans and he would have reminded
Speaker 2: us that, you know, look at what I inherited, which
Speaker 2: would be true, Like he probably would have taken that
Speaker 2: approach if Louisville was underwhelming in the first couple of
Speaker 2: years of him being here, and maybe over time it
Speaker 2: would have broke through and he would have had us
Speaker 2: right back to where we once were. Like that's that's
Speaker 2: not a crazy thing to throw out there, but I
Speaker 2: think Josh heard one knew they would never would never
Speaker 2: justify paying to go get mc cronin. But also, I
Speaker 2: need people to be energized now. I need not only
Speaker 2: Loivelle to be winning and we're Louisville, so really whoever
Speaker 2: we get is gonna be way better than Kenny Payne
Speaker 2: and we'll at least have a pulse again. But I
Speaker 2: need people to be energized into Louisville basketball. I need
Speaker 2: to hit them in the fields, if you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And that's something Kelsey brings that that you
Speaker 2: know was important, and I think we knew that ahead
Speaker 2: of time, Like we need somebody that's you know, not
Speaker 2: going to be like any pain and it's going to
Speaker 2: embrace Louisville and really let us know how appreciative he
Speaker 2: is to be here, Like we all knew that going in,
Speaker 2: but Kelsey had that clearly better than anybody else that
Speaker 2: was in the mix with the job.
Speaker 3: If there even was anybody.
Speaker 2: Else like him out there that you know, afterside of shirts,
Speaker 2: he was way different in that regard. And I despite
Speaker 2: knowing that it was going to be important in this
Speaker 2: process of the program healing and getting back on track,
Speaker 2: but now that it's actually happening and I'm experiencing it
Speaker 2: as a fan, it's more important than I even realized.
Speaker 3: I mean, because.
Speaker 2: Not only are you watching a team play and their
Speaker 2: reflection of the guy on the sideline with their energy,
Speaker 2: their effort, their enthusiasm, everything he says about what he
Speaker 2: wants to be as a team, as far as the
Speaker 2: identity and how appreciative.
Speaker 3: He is to be at Louisville.
Speaker 2: Those guys out there on the floor play, their effort,
Speaker 2: their energy, their enthusiasm. It's very similar to the guy
Speaker 2: that leads them every day, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: So I just think, right now, no Louisville fan that
Speaker 2: I'm talking to is even really thinking about the tournament
Speaker 2: like you are. But you're not, like that's not what's
Speaker 2: on your mind when you're thinking Louisville basketball, maybe other
Speaker 2: than a few times every now and then, because we're
Speaker 2: just alive again and it's awesome. Like I'm not thinking
Speaker 2: about what kind of seed they could get. I mean
Speaker 2: every now and then, I'm like, well, wait a second,
Speaker 2: because here's what's happening. I'm in my mind thinking like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is awesome. These guys are good.
Speaker 2: Like this team beat people up. They're all over the backboard,
Speaker 2: they're missing threes, but it doesn't matter because they're turning
Speaker 2: teams over and creating points and man, they've just been
Speaker 2: ferocious defensively. Like I'm just kind of getting caught up
Speaker 2: and everything that comes with watching your team play. Well,
Speaker 2: it's awesome. So you know, it's a good thing that
Speaker 2: were you know, it makes sense as to why those
Speaker 2: are things that stand out more like it's been a
Speaker 2: while and we can appreciate this more than we ever
Speaker 2: have because you know, we haven't been close to this
Speaker 2: good in a long time. But that's where you can
Speaker 2: look at the future and think, Okay, look at where
Speaker 2: we are as of now, given the situation with the
Speaker 2: injuries and knowing that it's the first year where he
Speaker 2: just you know, he just had to rely solely on
Speaker 2: the portal to.
Speaker 3: Build a team from scratch.
Speaker 2: Like, think of where this thing could be in three years. Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, None of us know. We can
Speaker 2: all guess and speculate, but like I like being able
Speaker 2: to say where things are now, I can look ahead
Speaker 2: and I won't be totally stunned if I've got a
Speaker 2: team that looks like they're going to be consistently in
Speaker 2: the mix to you know, be one of the top
Speaker 2: ten programs in the country. Again, I mean, who knows. Again,
Speaker 2: I have no clue, none of us know if that
Speaker 2: will happen. And maybe maybe it's far fetched, and maybe
Speaker 2: it's me turning into full cardboy here as we wrap
Speaker 2: up at four o'clock hour, But like just to be
Speaker 2: able to be crazy like that and get full of
Speaker 2: yourself as far as your team, Like we couldn't do
Speaker 2: that in the last couple of years, right, I mean
Speaker 2: we could, you could, but like you couldn't even fake
Speaker 2: he couldn't even fake it. You couldnt even convince yourself
Speaker 2: in any way, like you believed there was one percent
Speaker 2: chance that that team wasn't who we knew they were
Speaker 2: so good vibes, good energy, and again, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of different ways to coach, a lot of different ways
Speaker 2: to lead, and timing is important in every aspect of life,
Speaker 2: and I think the way Pat goes about it and
Speaker 2: the timing of when this job opened up, it's been
Speaker 2: it's been a beautiful thing thus far.
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