WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:17.480 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:26.600 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee. 3 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:26.960 All right, two more hours to go. Here on a 4 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:29.559 hump day edition of Coffee and Company. We are fueled 5 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:32.240 by Thornton's Make sure you sign up if you have 6 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.920 not yet, to become a member of the Refreshing Awards Program. 7 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:36.039 It's super easy to do. 8 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:38.759 Just download the app on your Android or your iPhone 9 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:40.240 and you'll be good to go. 10 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:42.280 You'll be happy that you did. All right. 11 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:45.479 So I lot to talk about last night's college basketball night, 12 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:47.240 first real night. It felt like there were I mean 13 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:49.000 it felt like it because it was there were a 14 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:52.759 ton of conference games going on. Louisville now five games 15 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.759 into their ACC slate there four and one, and another 16 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:59.079 big victory for them, not only one that came against 17 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:01.280 a good team. It them up quite a bit when 18 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:03.119 it comes to the net rankings and the Ken Palm 19 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:07.599 and whatnot. So I can continue to do it, and 20 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:09.680 I will to, you know, to an extent, but I 21 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.879 feel like I don't the energy that that I that 22 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:15.799 fans at least myself, and I know I wasn't alone 23 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.439 from from the Carolina game. I mean it carried over 24 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:20.439 to the Virginia game and then last night's same thing. 25 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:23.439 I mean, that was a good performance. They're now winning 26 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:26.079 games against solid teams to good teams. I think Clemson 27 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.359 is a pretty good team, you know, at least the 28 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:30.079 numbers say that they are. They did beat Kentucky for 29 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:32.319 whatever that's worth it, and I think it's actually worth something. 30 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.959 So you know, they're they're winning and playing good basketball, 31 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:41.560 playing hard, and they're doing it without certain things happening 32 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:44.439 that I felt like those certain things needed to happen 33 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:47.439 for this team to beat maybe anybody, but that's not 34 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.840 the case. They're they have really gotten gotten comfortable in 35 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:52.760 this new version of themselves, and I think they've got 36 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:55.040 an identity. And it's great to be able to win 37 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.040 no matter how you're doing it. But man, if they 38 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.560 start making shots, if they if they get hot from three, 39 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.280 who knows how good this team could actually end up being. 40 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.840 And I mean I say who knows, because you know, 41 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:07.920 I kind of feel like they could be pretty damn good. 42 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:10.479 But I realized that may sound like I'm getting ahead 43 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:12.719 of myself, but just being honest with you, and it's 44 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:15.159 nice to, you know, be crazy again and start thinking, Okay, 45 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:16.919 let's just not make the tournament, Let's get a good seed, 46 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:18.599 and let's go on a run. I mean, who knows 47 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:22.080 if any of that will actually happen. But you couldn't 48 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:27.000 even you couldn't even manufacture some excitement or you know, 49 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:31.080 projection with the previous few seasons we've had. Now at 50 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:33.560 least you know you're in a much better situation, and 51 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.319 this team's only getting better every time I watch him play. 52 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:38.199 All right, let's go to the phone lines BYBO two. 53 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:40.159 If I've seven one seventy nine hundred is the number 54 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:41.960 if you guys would like to jump in and give 55 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:44.919 us a call, And next up is Jerry. 56 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:45.800 Jerry, how are we doing. 57 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:51.039 I'm good, Nick, appreciate to allow me to talk. 58 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.599 Of course, my last call, my last call. I guess 59 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.479 it's been a couple of weeks ago with you. I said, 60 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:00.360 we was I thought we were gonna go seventeen fourteen, 61 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.000 and it's a time I didn't realize that you popped 62 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:03.639 on the computer. 63 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:06.280 I guess there, and you said Ken pomp said eighteen 64 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:06.960 and thirteen. 65 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:13.159 After a couple three more wins, I'm hopeful that I'm 66 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:16.439 off about four or five wins, and I'm hopeful we 67 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:19.120 can do a lot better than seventeen and fourteen. 68 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:24.000 You know, I as a fan. 69 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.479 So I'll just give you the numbers really quick. 70 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:29.360 Currently, the Ken Palm has Louisville now going twenty one 71 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:32.680 and ten overall and fourteen and six. And to your 72 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:35.400 point about just the numbers, I'm kind of thinking for 73 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.400 if you were to end up being accurate with what 74 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:41.000 you'd said a few weeks ago, that would likely mean 75 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:42.960 that they've lost to some teams that like they had 76 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:45.840 no business losen to, which could happen, right, that's basketball. 77 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:49.280 But yeah, that I would imagine you're thinking a little more, 78 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.639 not necessarily more positively, but like they've kind of shown, hey, 79 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:53.759 maybe they can be a little better than we were expecting. 80 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:55.159 Because I was with you when you mentioned that record, 81 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:56.080 I didn't think that was crazy. 82 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.159 Well, as a fan, I'm beginning to relate more and 83 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.639 more to the way Kelsey thinks as far as let's 84 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.439 just what, Let's just go to the next game, you know, 85 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.439 because I think you have to handle it like that 86 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.719 with a team like this. I still, I guess I'm 87 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:18.120 still feeling a little jaded from the past two and 88 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.639 a half three years, because like when I look at 89 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:25.120 the schedule still today, I see a lot of the games, 90 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.319 and maybe I'm looking at it through the last two 91 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.879 or three years lenses. I still look at those some 92 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:32.279 of those games as hey, they're. 93 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:33.800 Fifty to fifty games, you know. 94 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:36.519 I mean as a fan, As a fan, I look 95 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:40.360 at the Virginia game coming to to the young and 96 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.680 and yeah, I think we should lend that game. But again, 97 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.040 they've they've probably learned a little bit about themselves, a 98 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.240 little bit about us, and you never know how the 99 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:52.519 damn thing's gonna go. I mean, it's crazy, but I'm 100 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:53.600 excited about them. 101 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:54.920 I'll say a couple more things. 102 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.560 Uh, I've given James Scott some hell on this on 103 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:01.120 this show, and I still think he lacks a lot. 104 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.279 I think he's come a long way. I'll stick by this. 105 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:09.680 I think he long term. 106 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:11.879 I just don't know unless. 107 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:15.040 He really makes some huge jumps in his in his 108 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.720 offensive game, I don't think he's the kind of guy 109 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.680 that can take you where we want to go, which 110 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.040 is an elite A to Final four whatever, you know. 111 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:24.120 But I mean I do take my hand off to 112 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.360 him and head a little crow with him. Because I mean, 113 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.920 he's come so far in the past month is crazy, 114 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:34.000 you know. I think he I think he understands his role, 115 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:37.160 what he's supposed to do, and he stays in that box, 116 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:37.800 you know what I mean. 117 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:39.279 He couldn't couldn't have said it better. 118 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.399 He knows who he is as a player, he knows 119 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:43.680 where he can help, and he does the He does 120 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.639 that those things really really well as of late, and 121 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.000 that's a quality, that's a trait that players don't get 122 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:51.879 enough credit for. But to your point, you know, if 123 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:52.600 you're limited. 124 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:52.879 He is limited. 125 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:54.279 I think he's very limited, which when you look at 126 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.240 the production he's had recently, it's phenomenal. But if you know, 127 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.759 at least he's somebody that knows his limitations and sticks 128 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:02.839 with what he does well, I think Kelsey, you know, clearly, 129 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:04.399 I think that they should develop him. 130 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:06.360 I think his development could go a long way. 131 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:07.879 I don't know what his ceiling is as far as 132 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:09.720 just being able to score and be an offensive threat 133 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:11.839 other than just dunking the ball, But at least as 134 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:13.680 of now, I kind of feel like you're getting the 135 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.040 absolute most you can out of him recently here. 136 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:20.120 Right, And so I'll say a couple more things I'll 137 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:20.800 jump off here. 138 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:23.959 I looked at a lot. 139 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.079 Of things today, and I think there's about. 140 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.279 Fifteen or sixteen teams that can win the whole thing. 141 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.519 But I'm gonna give you my dark horse, and then 142 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:35.120 I want to say one thing about agents. My dark 143 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:38.120 horse is a team. It's pretty high in ken palm, 144 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:40.839 but not high in the ap right now. I watched 145 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.319 him play the other day. I saw again what they 146 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:47.480 did last night. My dark horse is Michigan, Okay, which 147 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.680 is funny because I wasn't for Dusty Mate coming. 148 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:52.399 Here at all. But I think he's doing a hell 149 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.199 of a job. I watched him play Western. 150 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.639 They went nineteen or forty from the three point line. 151 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:58.879 Wow last night? 152 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.639 Last night you cla on the road. They went fifteen 153 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:07.319 of twenty eight in their last three games Sandwich those 154 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.600 two with USC in the middle, they're shooting almost forty 155 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:15.000 eight percent from the three point line. Add add two 156 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.600 seven footers to that mix, and they are a dangerous 157 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:22.079 team if they don't have any injuries. Michigan is my 158 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.920 dark horse to win the whole thing. I think that 159 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.560 guy's I mean, I give him no credit when he 160 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:29.519 wanted when we were talking about bringing him here. I 161 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:32.279 called him vanilla and everything else. I think Dusty May's 162 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.720 doing a hell of a job. If I'm an Indiana fan, 163 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:39.959 I am sick because I held on to Woodson and 164 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:41.040 didn't jump at him. 165 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:43.240 Probably promise you thought about that. 166 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.519 Okay, And then one more thing, you're talking agents. 167 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.279 I was talking to a buddy today about Pat Kelsey, 168 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:53.160 and I said, what happens with his contract at the 169 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:56.399 end of this year? If his trajectory continues, great point, 170 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.279 is he gonna double or triple his salary. It's gonna 171 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.040 be one or the other. He's gonna easily double it, 172 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:05.360 and he may triple it or more. And you know, 173 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.360 it just depends on you know, if he can go 174 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:10.279 twenty two and nine in a regular season, make some 175 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.879 noise in the Act tournament, win a game or two 176 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.680 in the in the n C Double A Tournament. The 177 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.680 easiest job in the city is his agents. 178 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:19.079 No doubt about it. 179 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:22.240 He's gonna he's gonna cash in. That's all I got, Nick. 180 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:23.639 Thanks, Jerry good, appreciate it. 181 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.480 Yeah, So a couple of takeaways, uh, and some some 182 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:29.439 reaction to Jerry's call. Then we'll get to the we'll 183 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.160 get back to the phone lines. I promise you won't 184 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:33.639 we won't leave you holden too long. But when it 185 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.600 comes to James Scott, I off, I agreed with Jerry 186 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.679 when it comes to his limitations offensively and if he's 187 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:42.679 out there and he's gonna shoot poorly at the line 188 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.279 and just kind of be in the way offensively and 189 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.120 sometimes not be effective on the glass, like, you know, 190 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:49.159 you're gonna have to play him. 191 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:51.159 You need him. You don't have a whole lot of options. 192 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:52.519 But you know, I. 193 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:55.639 Started to worry, like maybe maybe you go even smaller 194 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:57.639 than you tip than you then you typically are going. 195 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:00.320 But really, since then, James Scott, it's it's not like 196 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.879 he's added some new element to his game offensively, but man, 197 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:06.639 he's able to get to his spot, which is, you know, 198 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:08.399 right next to the rim, throw it up and I'm 199 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:12.600 gonna dunk it, and that is I mean, there's not 200 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.440 many guys that can do that. But yet here he 201 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:17.840 is getting double double digits and points for the you know, 202 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:20.600 pretty consistently lately. And it's because of that, and he 203 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:22.120 shot it a little bit better at the free throw 204 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.720 line as well, and man, he played like a man 205 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:27.960 possessed last night with those block shots. He was all 206 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.720 over the backboard. I still don't know what the ceiling 207 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:32.480 is for him as far as a guy that you 208 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:34.039 know could be a pro, because, to be honest with you, 209 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:35.919 it may sound crazy to say that, but that was 210 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:37.759 the talk from whenever. You know, when he finished his 211 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:40.159 freshman season for Pat and at Charleston, there were some 212 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.919 folks that thought that he he legitimately could blossohim into 213 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:46.200 being an NBA guy just because of his length, as 214 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.559 athleticism and how raw he was. And honestly, he's still 215 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:52.440 very much raw, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll eventually 216 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:55.720 be some great, polished offensive player. But at six eleven, 217 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.000 two twenty, I mean, and a guy that can run 218 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:01.799 rim run like that, I mean, he's again, I go 219 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.559 back to what I said initially after Jerry's comments about 220 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:08.840 James Scott. For what he is right now, he deserves 221 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.759 a ton of credit for doing exactly that, doing those 222 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.840 things really well. But Pat Kelsey is getting getting the 223 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:18.000 absolute maximum out of him right now. And that's what 224 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.120 you want. I mean, that's that's that's what you That's 225 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.840 what every coach hopes to get is the most they 226 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.519 can out of every individual player that they have to 227 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:28.320 work with. And you know, right now, guys aren't making shots. 228 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.639 But I feel like this team like you're getting what 229 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.360 these guys are giving you. I mean, I don't really, 230 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.159 I don't think there's anybody that that that's you know, 231 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:38.120 under underperforming as far as what we know they can do. 232 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:41.519 Terrence Edwards didn't have a hadn't had a couple of 233 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.519 good nights, has had two games where he hasn't scored 234 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:45.399 quite as much, but he's still making an impact in 235 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.679 every other way. And Javon Hadley can give you thirty 236 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.240 two every you know, I would say that's probably going 237 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.919 to be his career high. But you know, this team, 238 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:57.759 they're clicking right now. You know when I say that, 239 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.879 You know that when I talk, But they're ceiling. I 240 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:03.919 don't know if you're gonna be able to get these guys, 241 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.000 you know, playing a whole lot better, But it just 242 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.480 comes down to like making shots, right Like you're able 243 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.639 to win games right now, four straight conference wins against 244 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:15.879 by double digits against teams with a winning record. I 245 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:17.919 mean that, as we discussed earlier, that hasn't happened in 246 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:21.960 a long time. And you know, I think if you 247 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.279 see a few more threes go in for the duo 248 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:27.679 of Watermen and rain Smith, I mean imagine, I mean 249 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:29.559 that could that could take a game from being you know, 250 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:31.120 you win in by eight or nine, or you know, 251 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:34.440 you win a by twenty so and not to say 252 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:36.759 that that's luck, but look, sometimes guys are just going 253 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:38.559 to make shots and sometimes they're not right. I mean, 254 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:42.799 that's that's basketball. And you know, it's frustrating and maddening 255 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:44.639 if you're getting good looks and you're not making them, 256 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:46.639 and we've certainly seen this team do that this year. 257 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.240 But I think they're playing so well in every other area. 258 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:52.720 They're actually getting better looks than they've ever gotten, and 259 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:54.600 sometimes they're not falling, and that's going to happen. But 260 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:56.639 I think there's value in knowing, hey, we're getting what 261 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:59.279 we want and trusting that eventually these shots are going 262 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.720 to fall. And again, what I've seen recently from this 263 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:03.879 team that I never thought we'd see just because I didn't, 264 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:05.879 I mean, I didn't really have any reason to expect it. 265 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:10.440 They're they're having off nights shooting, they're shooting poorly at 266 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:12.480 the line at home, like they did against Carolina, which 267 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:13.639 I say that like I'm bragging. 268 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:15.440 It's not a good thing. It's an issue. 269 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:17.960 But they're so they're playing so sharp in every other 270 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.120 area they've been able to still just go out there 271 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.519 and beat up teams. All right, let's go back to 272 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.159 the phone lines. Five way two, five seven, one seventy 273 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.039 nine hundred is the number. If you'd like to jump 274 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:29.399 in and give us a call. Let's welcome in, Allison, Allison. 275 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.720 How you doing, Dick, I'm great. 276 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:34.279 How are you doing well? Good to hear from you. Yeah, 277 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:34.679 you too. 278 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:37.960 So you know, I remember my love for PK and 279 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:39.720 how it was all about him and I wanted him 280 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:42.399 here so bad, and I just I don't think there 281 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:46.120 was a better fit out there. Listen, go watch Jay 282 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:49.919 Billis did a ninety feet with Dusty May. It's not 283 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.879 a fit for us. We needed more than a basketball coach. 284 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:55.360 We needed somebody that had the type of energy that 285 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:58.120 Pat Kelsey cats, that man rides his bike to work 286 00:12:58.200 --> 00:12:58.960 in read's books. 287 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:00.399 If that's what you like, that's what you like. 288 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.159 That's not what we needed at the University of Louisville. 289 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:06.279 We needed somebody that was going to bring exactly what 290 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:08.399 we got out of PK and you know, just some 291 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:11.879 notes from last night, the physicality of that team, and 292 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.679 they are so physical. They fight, they crawl, they scrap, 293 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.200 and we haven't seen that so long. And I think 294 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.519 you're a epitome of your head coach, and you know 295 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.279 your staff, and you see that with Pat and you 296 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:26.279 see that out of his team, and you know, Jerry 297 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:29.279 much respect, man, But give me a fully healthy Louisville 298 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:33.440 team against that Michigan team any day, because the athleticism 299 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.679 that we have with the fully healthy team, it's not 300 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:41.919 even close. And just another point, Nick is chucky, you know, 301 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:43.919 had an off night, but he was a leader on 302 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.799 the floor and he's in the gym at eleven pm 303 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.600 shooting eight hundred shots, you know, saying I'll never do 304 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:53.080 that again. I mean, we haven't had that type of 305 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:56.879 energy and long and it's just grave, Nick. It's a 306 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.639 great feeling and you can just tell every loved it. 307 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:02.480 I mean, when you're walking out of the game last night, 308 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:07.000 the concession stands are chanting cards, the parking garage they're 309 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:10.440 chanting cards. I mean, I haven't heard that in forever. 310 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:11.840 It's been a while. 311 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:16.559 Yeah, absolutely, that's all I got, Nick, and I'll hang up. 312 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.039 And listen, appreciate it. Thank you, Allison. She's right. 313 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.960 The vibes have never been better for Louisville basketball. I mean, 314 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:24.600 I guess they have when Louisville you know, was winning 315 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.600 national championships and whatnot. And you know, we've had three 316 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:30.480 of them in the existence of the program. Two in 317 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:32.480 my life or yeah, one in my lifetime, two that 318 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:36.360 I missed out on. So I just think the reason 319 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:38.399 we're seeing some of those things that she mentioned is 320 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.399 because we had Again, like I talked about it yesterday, 321 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.960 I didn't mean to get so deep, but the success 322 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:48.000 that Louisville's having now and us getting back to kind of, 323 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.240 you know, being alive. I thought it would make me 324 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:56.039 not even believe that the last three years happened. But 325 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:00.440 in fact, I'm reminded often because I I just am 326 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.240 so excited about what's going on now and I hate 327 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.240 to even call it a silver lining, but that's made 328 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:08.879 this stuff even more special. So, yeah, the vibes are 329 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:12.480 great right now. And look when it comes to things 330 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:15.639 like Chucky Hepburn doing that. You know he played at Wisconsin. 331 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:17.559 Clearly that's a good program. So I don't act like 332 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:20.720 he came from you know, nowhere, But these guys like 333 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:25.240 they really feel privileged to be here. They like Javon 334 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:27.679 Hadley having thirty two points last night in front of 335 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:31.679 that crowd with them chanting Hadley like, yeah, he's played 336 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.639 at Colorado. That's a decent program, but like that, like Louisville, 337 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.320 it's just different and you can tell and these guys 338 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.320 appreciate it. And that's why I've said it for the 339 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.399 last few weeks. It's I think always been the case, 340 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.759 but it's really stood out that everybody from top to 341 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.559 bottom right now within the program, all players, everybody that 342 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.600 Pat Kelsey has working for him, they have a level 343 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.120 of like, wow, this is awesome. 344 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:51.919 We're at Louisville. 345 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:56.000 We're gonna give everything we have because this is such 346 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:57.080 a phenomenal place to be. 347 00:15:57.440 --> 00:15:59.240 Let's make the most of it, like we got this. 348 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:01.799 I don't want to say it's a dream come true 349 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:03.399 for everybody, but he wouldn't shock me if it is 350 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:05.120 for a lot of folks. And with Chucky, you know 351 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:07.279 a lot like right now, Chucky, I would have never 352 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:09.519 even believed you about Chucky statline, if I didn't see 353 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:11.320 with my own eyes as far as the numbers because 354 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:12.879 you know, I saw I miss some shots, but he 355 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.960 was also impacting the game and playing really well in 356 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.200 every other phase. Just locking people up defensively, just an 357 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:20.840 absolute pest on the defensive side. But you know what, 358 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:22.240 for him, he wants to get back to work right 359 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:24.159 after the game and gets six hundred shots up because 360 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:26.799 he missed some shots, Like, that's just good. That's the 361 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:32.639 kind of energy and culture to where you know you're 362 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.799 much more likely to have long term success. And one 363 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:38.039 thing I want to get to on the other side, 364 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.120 because Allison's absolutely right, there was something about Pat Kelsey 365 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:47.519 that clearly Josh Hurd knew was going to be very 366 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:53.000 vital in not only winning, but like things we needed 367 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:56.159 as far as the healing process, right somebody, because I 368 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:58.440 don't think Louisville fans could ever get tired of Pat 369 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:01.799 Kelsey talking about how great Louisville is and how lucky 370 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.639 he feels to be here. I mean, it would get 371 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.039 a little repetitive, I suppose, but I think it's genuine 372 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.799 and that that to me, has been a big, big 373 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.559 step in the healing process. We'll get to that and 374 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:12.920 a lot more on the other side. Stick around. If 375 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:14.079 you want to join us, you can five way two 376 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:16.319 five seven one seventy nine hundred. It's coffee and Company 377 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:18.400 fuel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven. 378 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:23.480 Ninety Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's 379 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:27.200 on Sports Talk seven nine day. 380 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.640 It still feels really weird that we have college football 381 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:37.680 playoff games tomorrow and on Friday, but I'm looking forward 382 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:40.319 to it. We've got some good games, at least I 383 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.319 believe they're going to be good games. And James Franklin 384 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:47.519 said that he believes that everybody should have to be 385 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:51.319 in a conference. And I don't think that's like a 386 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:56.240 crazy thing to say, but I guess it's just because 387 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:01.559 until Notre Dame starts scheduling like weak teams, Like if 388 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:04.599 Notre Dame just really decided to no longer play the 389 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:06.880 same put it this way, if Notre Dame no longer 390 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.880 had the scheduling arrangement with the ACC where they're required 391 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:13.200 to play four games every year against the conference, I mean, 392 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:17.200 they're kind of in the ACC, which you know is weak, 393 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:20.119 but it's it is what it is. So if they 394 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:22.440 lost that arrangement and they had a tough time getting 395 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.480 other g four teams to play them just because that's 396 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:28.279 a really strong out of conference game. Then at that 397 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.839 point then then the committee would just have to say, look, 398 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:36.160 we're sorry, you can't like. You're you're eligible, but because 399 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:40.359 of your schedule, like we can't like doesn't matter. So 400 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.519 they you know, that would be the only reason that 401 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:47.519