WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:02.520 Disclaimer. 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:04.679 We'd like to know before the start of this interview 3 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:07.160 that the opinions about to be expressed by the guest 4 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:10.080 of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of the 5 00:00:10.119 --> 00:00:13.400 guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the views 6 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:30.280 of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 7 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:34.600 You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 8 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:48.359 Hello, Hello, roofy man. Where did you go? You went 9 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:50.479 to Mexico. 10 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:53.439 As a matter of fact, Jesus, let me a complex 11 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:55.320 shaved the beer too? 12 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:55.880 You end up? 13 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:56.079 Bro? 14 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:56.920 You look great. 15 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.200 Where's the deer? What'd you catch? Where is it? 16 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.560 Well, we might have a picture of that somewhere. Let 17 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:04.879 me see shit eating grin on his face? 18 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:06.400 Yeah, let me see this. 19 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.959 This is not you. 20 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:13.239 Look at that live. I think his eyes were open, 21 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:13.640 an't they? 22 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:15.640 It's looking at like money. 23 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:19.640 Wow, guy smiled so much from killing him. 24 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:19.920 Yeah. 25 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:21.079 Wait, we go back to that. Look at it. 26 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:22.680 Do you guys notice this? The guys in the chat 27 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:24.079 make sure we comments this guy. 28 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:29.959 Smiling smiling with a dead dea nice anyway. Welcome back 29 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:32.319 to again sold the Sperienced podcast. It's the only one 30 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:36.120 that brings the firehouse, kitchen table and hot charges from 31 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:42.519 way back, like Bronx ghetto firefighter is to you when 32 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.239 the Bronx was burning, Bro, he got him tonight, John 33 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:50.280 Row coming in ship hot, Bro, he was dead. I 34 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:54.359 like it, raw, Oh baby, I like it raw. He 35 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.079 thought he saw them more fire in a year than 36 00:01:57.079 --> 00:01:59.680 most guys will see in their Korea runs. 37 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:02.000 Right, look at you pulling? 38 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.719 I really am Yeah, Mike, how are you so? I 39 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:07.480 hear you're Are we allowed to say it? You're getting 40 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.840 fitted for your bunker gear and whatnot. 41 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:16.879 So yeah, it's out there next month. 42 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.840 It's gonna be a firefighter. We me and Louis, we 43 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.919 rescued him. We took him. We yanked him right from 44 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:26.120 the the doldrums of being a cock bro right right 45 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:27.199 that gunson. 46 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:30.319 Yeah, san Diego. 47 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:34.400 I took him into my arms like this, and I 48 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:36.240 coddled him and I said, this is the way, son, 49 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.719 hold on to my coat, follow me, this is where 50 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:40.719 we're going, and look at him out. He's gonna be 51 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.039 a real, honest to goodness firefighter. 52 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:46.960 We can we can bring back an oldie with him 53 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:47.280 like this. 54 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:55.879 God yeah, I mean, can you imagine the pussies that's 55 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:57.919 going to be falling into his arms broken the fires like, 56 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.800 oh god, I don't know. I guess the. 57 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:04.360 Skip from Murph Pussy Pussy Pussy. 58 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.439 It's gonna be getting so much poon time you won't 59 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:08.039 know what to do with himself. Right now, we allowed 60 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:14.599 to say point time you can poo. Yes, we gotta 61 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:16.199 get John and he he's got a ton of great 62 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:19.319 stories from the key head Tel Yep. 63 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:22.879 We're gonna do uh Marshall Fisher want to bring him in. 64 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.919 Do two commercials. Probably had to do two commercials first, right, well, 65 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:28.840 a hot job yet exactly. 66 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.759 Yeah, you said it, all right, let's do uh, let's 67 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:32.879 do the new guys, we'll do them light off the top. 68 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.039 Who's that? 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I just want little teaser listen 114 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:33.639 even though they were only once a month. Capital Dude, 115 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.519 I gotta give them a shout out. They are awesome 116 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:40.879 family run business capital industries. Awesome. You aging helmet you 117 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.279 need done? These guys are on it, man. I watched 118 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.160 them do they work at one of the shows that 119 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:46.680 we want to do next to us in the booth, 120 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.040 and these guys are legit. Anything you need to don't 121 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:50.639 your helmet to make it look like leather, They'll make 122 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:54.079 it fits. Yeah, there's a little shout out for them 123 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.000 because I love this family. Excellent, excellent. I'm gotta say 124 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:59.600 one other thing. It's my girl and that I forget. 125 00:06:59.839 --> 00:06:59.920 Is it. 126 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:00.800 Cindy Drake. 127 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:01.959 Yep, she's there. 128 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:05.160 Cindy Drake is the I'm gonna say she's the best 129 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.480 fan of getting salted. She watches the Cup of John Flago. 130 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:12.120 She's always commenting, she's always in the chat. I'm gonna 131 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:13.319 say she's a super fan. 132 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:13.560 Bro. 133 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.639 I love me some Cindy Drake. She's always comed doing 134 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:18.319 the right thing. I tried the friend of our Facebook, 135 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.079 but I couldn't find it. I don't know, so Cindy 136 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:20.560 friend me. 137 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:22.160 Take the hint. Take the hint. 138 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.560 Awesome, all right, let's bring him in here, bro, Mike, 139 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:30.079 Yeah problem uh Luke. I mean Mike, bring him out. 140 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:31.240 Mike, what's the different? 141 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:33.600 He worked for her twenty six Our next guest worked 142 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.720 for twenty six years and what's known as the Iron 143 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:37.680 Horse in the Bronx, of which he'll tell us about tonight. 144 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:40.240 A veteran of the FD and Wise Engine sixty. He 145 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.600 comes in with roar and that for this episode two 146 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:44.160 hundred and thirty to get salty experience. 147 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.839 Retired FD and WI firefighter John Rorr. 148 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:55.040 Here he is. 149 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.959 What's that? Did he say retired or retarded? 150 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:03.360 No? He said we're all anymore that my daughter goes crazy. 151 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:04.720 You can't say that, dad. 152 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:07.839 Like I do. We grew up old school. I could 153 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:09.480 say God, you could say. 154 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.800 Whatever you want to say, Bro, take it easy. 155 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:15.519 You want an army that has a good man, Damn 156 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:16.759 they are. 157 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:20.839 I like this guy? You ready? So let me ask 158 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:22.959 a question. If you're walking down the street and you 159 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:24.959 see John Raw on the street with that mustache, what 160 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:28.040 do you say, Mike, fireman? Right, he's got to be 161 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:28.560 a fireman. 162 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.519 Absolutely No, don't say cop, that's for sure. 163 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:36.480 Oh Cop, to bite your tom. Listen before we get 164 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:37.879 too far out of the week too. We gotta be 165 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.799 a patriotic. We gotta do one duty from John. Play 166 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:41.960 it up, brother, here we go. 167 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:49.080 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 168 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:53.639 of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, 169 00:08:54.480 --> 00:09:01.759 one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 170 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:15.960 Well, thank you John for coming on the show. Not 171 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:21.200 only is he a legendary I said, legendary firefighter, old 172 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:26.679 school firefighter, he is a veteran and we can't give 173 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.159 him enough thanks for that. So I'm gonna say right 174 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.399 off the bat, thank you for your service in both 175 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.919 Thank you firefighter and uh being in the service. So 176 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.120 let's go back, John, Let's go back a little bit. 177 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:40.399 Give us a little early of the of the Raw 178 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:42.480 family where you grew up. A little bit about mom 179 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:43.600 and dad. Stuff like that. 180 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:49.480 Wow, mom and dad both come basically. My mother was 181 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:54.159 born in Baston, Oh boy, somehow she got to New York. 182 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.480 I met my father, my father at age ten or eleven. 183 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:02.600 We're stricten with polio and he had to spend the 184 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:05.559 rest of his life with a leg brace, and his 185 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.360 right side was kind of weak, but his left side 186 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:13.799 was over big. And when I would misbehave, which was 187 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:19.440 not too many times, maybe once twice a day he 188 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.039 would he would tell me get over here. Now I 189 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.879 could outrun him in a heartbeat. But when he said 190 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:29.120 get over here, I went over there, and his left hand, 191 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:33.919 which was the big side, usually found my ass. And 192 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:40.519 I learned a lesson that if I someone squealed on me, 193 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:44.759 I beat him up. No, I didn't do that. Now 194 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:47.000 you're nice. 195 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:48.600 You have any brothers and sisters. 196 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.679 I have two sisters, one who has passed away now. 197 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:56.120 The other one lives in with Haveaven Queens Queens. I 198 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:59.840 was born bred in Ozone Park, bought a house there 199 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:06.799 in nineteen seventy three, moved to South Jersey, Oh Jersey 200 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:12.639 in uh in two thousand, I bought the thousand and eight, 201 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.879 moved in on nine And I'm still trying to figure 202 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:19.919 out why do people vote for people who were going 203 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.600 to raise your tax, raise everything. I could have been 204 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.639 in South Carolina where there's almost no man. 205 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:31.759 I don't understand, amen, brother, So you uh, you come 206 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.320 out of high school? Right? Or do you finish high school? 207 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:36.000 You go right into the army? What do you or 208 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.840 the I don't know what's oh right? Because it's Vietnam War, right, 209 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:40.759 we all. 210 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:43.759 On the side of well, go go. Yeah. 211 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:45.480 How old were you John when you got drafted? 212 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:46.320 Uh? 213 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:54.679 Just let's see, good question. Nineteen going on twenty, just 214 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:01.679 about twenty. And in a few short months, I took 215 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:06.039 five stops to get me into Vietnam and I spent 216 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.080 fourteen months there. Twelve months is a normal tour. But 217 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:13.000 if you spent extra time and you'll land it back 218 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.120 in the States with one hundred and fifty or less 219 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.440 days in the service, they just let you go. Really, 220 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:23.039 I counted, I was good and mad, and I counted 221 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:26.480 how long I would have to stay in Vietnam to 222 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:28.799 go home. And I landed with one hundred and fifty 223 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.840 days left, and they said, see, you wouldn't want to 224 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:33.720 be and that was the end of that tour. 225 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:36.759 Wow. So what was your experience like. 226 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:40.759 Well, my worst experience was when night hit the airport 227 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:44.159 after they let me go. I got the San Francisco 228 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.679 airport to come back to New York. A young girl 229 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:49.240 and a young guy walking down and she came up 230 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.279 to me, spit on me and called me a baby killer. 231 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:55.559 Oh wow, So you know, I said right there, and 232 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:58.639 then should I kill her or go home? So I 233 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.480 decided to go home. Fast forward many years later. Death 234 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:08.840 the NY the best ceremony I ever seen. They honored 235 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:10.919 all the Vietnam vets. And I'm sitting next to a 236 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:13.799 marine and he says, you know, a similar thing happened 237 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.320 to me. And I was called the baby killer. And 238 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.000 I went like this, and I said, and they taste 239 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:23.879 like chicken. I said, God, I wish I would have 240 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:27.879 said that that girl would have fainted underground, but I didn't. 241 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:29.879 When did they do that? John, What year of the 242 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:31.639 annable of Vietnam? Guys? 243 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:35.080 Well, it was fifty year anniversary, So I'm going to 244 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:43.879 stay somewhere around ninety seven, ninety six. 245 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:45.240 I didn't even know they did that. 246 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:52.039 Yeah, they had that death, that three star general, the 247 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:57.960 Chief Department, another official from the department, and they mind 248 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.200 us all up in alphabetical order, and they brought us 249 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.919 up three at the time, and they had the active 250 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:07.200 duty guys, five department guys that were in the service, 251 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:14.039 and Congress gave us these little medals, and the three 252 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:17.600 guys would come up, you know, and stand in Three 253 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:21.200 active duty firemen would come up and pin the medal 254 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.480 on you. And God, I'm not lying. I was in 255 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:27.360 a big red one first Inftry division and a guy 256 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:32.399 in sixty engine seventeen truck was over in Iraq as 257 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:35.960 a fireman. He was in a big red one and 258 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:39.919 not making it up. He was the guy that stayed 259 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:42.759 in front of me and pinned the metal Army. Thought 260 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.720 that was the greatest honor. Yeah, that one of my 261 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.639 guys pinning the metal army. Well, that's the end of 262 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:49.120 that story. 263 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:50.639 What was the big red one? 264 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.279 The first infantry division? First, you're going to be one, 265 00:14:54.360 --> 00:15:00.399 be a big red one. That was a It was 266 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:04.320 the first infantry division in the army, but it was 267 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.799 the first one to go to Vietnam and we were 268 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.559 actually round Saigon up to the Cambodian border and a 269 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:16.600 little north of that, and that was a pretty active 270 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.879 you were in the ship. Well, yeah, at the time, 271 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:25.720 I wound up being a platoon sergeant, which no big deal. 272 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:29.240 But I didn't have to lift. I was in a 273 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.000 mortar platoon, so I didn't have to lift all the 274 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:37.879 heavy yo, get that that, you know, I was a 275 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:39.639 semi boss. 276 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:43.080 All right, So you did that fifteen months there? 277 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:50.080 You said nineteen or no, no, no, twelve and uh fifteen months? Yeah, wow, 278 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:55.639 three months? Fifteen months and it was time to go home. 279 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:56.519 Right. 280 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:58.960 How do you know how I had a kid by then? 281 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:03.519 My son, John was two weeks short of a year 282 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:06.840 old when I got home because my wife was pregnant 283 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:08.279 when I was leaving to go Vietnam. 284 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:10.960 What year is this? John? Want you to go over there? 285 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.080 I went there sixty nine, sixty eight, came back sixty nine, right, 286 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:19.159 and you weren't even a dot on. 287 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:21.799 This I was. I was born in sixty eight. But 288 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:25.039 you said to us on the pre show that you 289 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.440 grew that mustache in sixty eight. You've never shared that 290 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:28.600 except for one day. 291 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.240 One day, and then drove it back. My son was 292 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:34.720 born in sixty eight, and he was in ten truck 293 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:38.080 and he's got the best retirement date of any fire 294 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:42.120 in there ever lived. That's six guys, I believe his 295 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:46.120 retirement date nine ten oh one, nine ten oh one. 296 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.759 He gets really hurt at a job and they put 297 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.360 him out nineten oh one. Wow, how about that? And 298 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:55.279 he would have his groups would have been working that 299 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:58.360 day had he been whole, But he was. 300 00:16:58.360 --> 00:16:59.039 Wasn't his time? 301 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.120 Brother, No, to tell you what was his time? His 302 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.799 time was nineteen ninety nine. He worked one tour with 303 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:09.000 me and we were put in for a unit citation. 304 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:13.839 Really we went to a fourth alarm and a stupid 305 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.480 deputy chief from he worked in thirty one truck in 306 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:20.319 the eight days and he had medals up his yang. Yeah, 307 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:24.359 and he says, now he did what an engine were 308 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.319 first do you did what an engine was supposed to do? 309 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:33.400 I said, are you crazy? Did you see what they? 310 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:40.039 They deserved the unicitation? And then my boss Mike Waters, 311 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.079 good guy, very good guy. He was a volley out 312 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:49.000 in Long Island, in someplace out there in the row vollies. Anyway, 313 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.400 they he goes to some meeting out of town where 314 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.640 all the volleys go to shake hands. I guess, I 315 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.000 don't know. And he sees the chief and he tells him, 316 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.359 you know, chief, there was a father's son working that 317 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.319 night and you said no to the uni tation. Chief goes, oh, 318 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.400 I didn't know that. He said, you never read it. 319 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:11.799 He said, we submitted, I'll approve it. So what does 320 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.200 Mike Waters do? He says, no, you had your shot. 321 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.680 And I'm sitting here going, are you crazy? I wanted 322 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:23.599 that unity, it says, but I got the report and 323 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:24.400 that's the main thing. 324 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:26.480 So were you driving, and he was on the backstep. 325 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:27.599 You were both on the back step. 326 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:34.640 No, he was on the backstep. I was driving. And 327 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:38.319 they all ran out of mask and the chief didn't 328 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:41.480 relieve them right away, and they didn't come down. So 329 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:43.960 after they came down and they all looked like crap, 330 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:46.920 and he said, yeah, we ran out of masks, but 331 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:49.480 we kept going. I said, why didn't want he just 332 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.200 come down and get some more bottles of Then, well, 333 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:54.319 your son was in there, and I couldn't leave your 334 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:56.119 son in there. Then I asked my son. He said, 335 00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:58.799 this is your house. I couldn't leave your house. Go 336 00:18:58.880 --> 00:18:59.880 a bunch of assholes. 337 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:03.960 Let's go back to it. 338 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:05.920 You should have come down and got a bottom. 339 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:08.240 When you first got on the job. What made you 340 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:09.799 want to get on the job. Did you have family 341 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:10.440 there or what? 342 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:13.640 No, well that's a different story. My help I was 343 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:17.480 an electrician, right union electrician, and my helper wanted to 344 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:22.400 be a Fineman kid Santos Rodriguez, great kid, Can you 345 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.640 bring me down to forty nine Thomas Street. I said, yeah, sure, 346 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:28.599 I bring him down there, and he's filling on an application. 347 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:31.720 He said, John, do me a favor. I'll pay the 348 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:35.640 fifteen dollars fill out the application. Said why, he said, 349 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:37.759 just throw it out. This week they mail you stuff. 350 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:40.119 I know I'm going to get stuff and full through. 351 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.880 I said, yeah, all right, And so time goes by 352 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.640 the union let me down. I was a shop steward 353 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:51.920 and I told the guy who I did Bolton champ 354 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.160 and Scotland for the apprenticeship program. And I go to 355 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.359 a job and there's a non electrician doing a Bolton 356 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:01.680 chap work of my company. But it was an electrician 357 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.319 and I tell him, get your rest down here, go 358 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:07.079 back to the shop, get done. Next morning, I go 359 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:09.599 into the shop and my foreman, who I liked and 360 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:11.559 he liked me, He goes, you ain't gonna believe this. 361 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:13.680 I said, what he says? The owner of the company 362 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.960 came down here. He says, I gotta fire you. He said, 363 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:19.359 what how many shops do You can't fire me? He says, 364 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.680 he says, you're gone. He says nothing I could do 365 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.319 about it. I go down the union and the union 366 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.640 Oh got nothing, Yeah, nothing, you're round. I don't have 367 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:31.599 another job for you. 368 00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:35.319 He says, how do they do that when you're. 369 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:37.839 The shot on the payroll? He was on six, no 370 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:40.519 show payroll. I called every shop student in New York 371 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:43.079 City that I did find, and they all called the 372 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:46.519 Big Boss. He was the number two guys. They called 373 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:48.799 the Big Boss. All of a sudden, I got a 374 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.839 phone call an hour later, Oh, go to offer a 375 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:54.559 shouts tomorrow morning, you're gonna work there. And I go 376 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:56.440 there and then and the boss there goes, Hey, John, 377 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:58.279 And I knew the guy. He says, I don't know 378 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:00.799 what's going on. I was supposed to have you next week, 379 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.440 but I got a phone call. I got to hire 380 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:06.680 you today. I said yeah, and I explained to him 381 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:11.640 what the asshole did. So now the fire departments makes 382 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:17.920 me uh oh sixty. In nineteen sixty seventy seven, sixty 383 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:21.319 five thousand guys signed up for the fire department tests. 384 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:24.400 I don't want to break, but I was one seventy 385 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:29.039 nine on the list. Nice, all right, So I'm top 386 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:32.640 of the list. I go through physical, I do great 387 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:35.720 on that. I'm on the top of the list. So 388 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:39.359 I'm now that they've screwed me. In the local three, 389 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:41.720 I said, you know what, I'm gonna join the fire department. 390 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:48.039 Nineteen seventy eight, they call me. I got my whole 391 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.440 bathroom in those o ball disassemble. You gotta be down 392 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.440 at eight o'clock at city Hall. Gets warned, said I 393 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:58.759 can't do this. I got no bathroom this you know 394 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:02.480 I got. I said I can't. So I called a 395 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.359 friend of mine up who was a boss on the job. 396 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:09.359 He made me go down to uh Puree and I 397 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:11.880 went down there and they they moved me back on 398 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:14.880 the list. Okay, fine, So I wound up going later 399 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:20.720 on no problem, and my help will who made me 400 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:22.839 do this? He didn't do so well. He was four 401 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.640 thousand on the list. So after a couple of years 402 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:28.720 they get into four thousand. I called him a Santos. 403 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:30.799 You know your numbers coming up, they're going to be 404 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.279 calling you. He says, I haven't got anything done yet. 405 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.079 They never called me nothing. He said, no, they had to. 406 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.680 You had to be coming down for sudden, he said no. 407 00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:41.640 He goes home that night he says to his wife, 408 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.079 he says, to my department, never sent me or call 409 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:47.759 me anything. She goes, well, uh, he says, what happened? 410 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:49.319 She says, I didn't want you to be a fineman, 411 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:54.920 so I threw all the melt Local three, but that's 412 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:58.119 another story. He was a good guy. But so I 413 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:01.960 wind up Provy school and I wound up in one 414 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:03.039 of the best flyinghouses. 415 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.519 Uh, before you go there, any guys that we know 416 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:07.920 who was in your proby class? 417 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:10.319 Uh Steve Shemy, he might have. 418 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.039 I might have heard, never heard never heard them, never 419 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:16.599 never heard of them, never heard. 420 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:18.079 Where are you in this picture? John? 421 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.400 Right in the middle in the back? I got my 422 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:22.720 hat all backwards. 423 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:24.640 Oh you still got a mustard. 424 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:27.200 Yes, I had a mustache. 425 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:29.319 But not that mustache. 426 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:32.519 Well, I was younger than it was dark and maybe 427 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:33.319 allow you to. 428 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:34.880 Have you didn't have a past. 429 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:37.759 You have a mustache like this in the fly department 430 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:40.319 when I was on I got charges for it. 431 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:43.039 Yeah. My brother used to chase me around all the 432 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:44.839 time I had. I had a mustache like that too. 433 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.599 He used to tell that guy to shave that mustache. 434 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:52.240 I went down for the medical and I got charges. 435 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:58.480 And that's the way that I didn't care. I told 436 00:23:58.559 --> 00:23:59.640 him I'm not shaving it. 437 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:01.680 Where are you a getting here? Where were you in 438 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:02.079 this one? 439 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:03.519 Uh? 440 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:06.559 Bottom right? 441 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:10.119 So somebody with a mustage all the way and the 442 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:12.799 right on the bottom right there had the mustage. 443 00:24:13.319 --> 00:24:16.200 Look at that you looked at that. 444 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:16.759 All right? Good? 445 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.880 So almost every guy in there was a veteran except 446 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:20.599 the squad. 447 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:23.920 Leader, except us to meet the squad leader. 448 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.839 The squad leader was I can't think of his name. 449 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:29.920 He wound up being the he died in the trade center. 450 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:37.200 He was the captain of the rescue one carne. Yeah. Uh, 451 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.839 he was the squad father. His father was the chief 452 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:41.359 of department. 453 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:43.599 Kind of hard to make out he's in this picture. 454 00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:45.279 His father was a Jeans that I do know. 455 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:51.799 I'm trying to think of where he is. He's there somewhere, 456 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:52.160 all right. 457 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:53.920 So how do you get Here's the question we always 458 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.400 ask guys, how do you get the sixty engine? Did 459 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:57.559 you know somebody. 460 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:00.200 It? 461 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:00.720 Oh? 462 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:01.559 Wait, lock or. 463 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:06.359 No? No? 464 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:07.920 If I had. 465 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.880 My choice back then, which I didn't know, because I 466 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.160 would have been stupid. If I did, I would have 467 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:15.960 probably said, give me into the fifteenth division. It would 468 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:20.799 have been easy, rob mute from all commute for you Bronx. 469 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:23.759 You have to pay it twenty five cents toll you 470 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:30.200 know what I mean? Noween dollars. So, but I wound 471 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.799 up in the Bronx. It was the best thing ever happened. 472 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.759 My first tour. You know, I know guys say this 473 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:42.319 all the time. I wasn't in twenty minutes. First du 474 00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:47.319 Grand Concourse one four seventh Street between one four seven nine, 475 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.200 and the captain, Oh, Patty, Patty mcgrel says, probe you 476 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:53.039 got the noucle. 477 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:54.720 Come on, he gave you the no. 478 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.599 I'm going to myself. Holy shit. Back then, when I 479 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:04.559 first got there, we rode the backstep and they only 480 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:08.240 had two masks, and they were in that suitcase right right, 481 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:13.240 and the two guys at the back they wound up 482 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:18.400 going to the suitcase the nozzle in the backup. We 483 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.960 went in. So I had Tom Kapiello as my backup, 484 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.799 great fireman, and he pushes me in and where I 485 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.000 didn't really want to go, but he's pushing me and 486 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.039 I'm I'm waving this around down the hallway and I 487 00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.400 get to the door. Mind you, I still don't have 488 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.440 a mask on, and he says to me, lift out 489 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.720 your shirt and put your mouth down there and take 490 00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:45.599 a breath like that. Okay, holding my brother and I 491 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.519 got in the door about three or four feet. That 492 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.000 was it. I couldn't breed them on. And so he 493 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:52.960 took the nozzle he went in a couple more feet. 494 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:57.400 Then the rescue guys came in with till two other 495 00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.400 guys came in with a mask on and we went out. 496 00:26:59.480 --> 00:26:59.880 Thank God. 497 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:07.920 And that job. Let me see who got Jimmy Corporate 498 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.400 from seventeen truck out of medal? You wound up in 499 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.039 rescue one, but he got a medal on that job 500 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:16.160 for saving somebody in that apompment. So I was happy 501 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:16.480 for that. 502 00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:21.000 So twenty minutes so you walk into the firehouse, right. 503 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.599 Who is the captain at the time, Patty McGraw. 504 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.000 Ah, he said, he come three thousand miles to be 505 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:28.440 a boss and a box he'll be. 506 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:32.720 Who was some of the senior men when you got there? 507 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:38.960 Uh? In that well, you had Tom mahoney, you had 508 00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:44.319 uh oh shit, you had Joe mclough and you had 509 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:45.599 Tom McDowell. 510 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.000 What the fuck? Well, Irish guys. 511 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:49.759 It is the Green Rays. 512 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:53.240 Boy, Oh, it is the Green Rays. You're right minute? 513 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.279 We had uh Julio him good? 514 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.160 All right? Uh there you go, Mike, did you talken 515 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.960 Spanish guy? Thank you? I was wondering. 516 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.440 We had Vernon Richards died in the trade center, Captain Richards, 517 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:14.119 and he was Captain Richards, good guy. Oh, we had 518 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:19.880 quite a few senior men that my brain is not working. 519 00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:21.759 Well, you were the only probe that went there John 520 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:24.920 at the time, rock Osentino came with me. Oh you 521 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.640 went with a guinea Yeah right, No where he. 522 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:32.519 Lived in his own park I used to be no 523 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.680 way even better. You know anything about those who Parker 524 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.759 say sound I thought he was. He lived right around 525 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:38.240 the corner. 526 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:39.119 I know what that is. 527 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.920 Yeah, yeah, he lived around the corner. Me and him 528 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:48.359 coupled nice and uh, yesterday it was he sent me 529 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.240 a thing yesterday. It was the forty fourth anniversary of 530 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:54.200 our turning. 531 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:58.079 Grade of the attorney first grade. 532 00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:02.119 Turning one of the grades. I don't know, uh, because. 533 00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:03.640 Back then it wasn't how many years was it? 534 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:09.559 It was four grades four, three, two, one and thank god? 535 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.960 And then you were then I got then I got paid. 536 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.640 Right, I went. Guys in the truck, What guys did 537 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:20.000 you have there in the truck at the time? Uh? 538 00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:21.440 Who cares? 539 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.119 Jesus quite the table truck. 540 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.319 The truck had some great guys. There was a fireman 541 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:34.480 called Peter Zincas in the truck. Oh, you're showing me 542 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:36.039 a picture of the Germans. 543 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.000 That's what it was. Okay, Remember I was talking about sixty. 544 00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:40.680 These are Germans that came over. 545 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:42.640 I don't want to start yourself. 546 00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:46.039 Rover bus ever around and the firehouse gave them a 547 00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:50.720 lunch and these guys were Germans were great. And I'll 548 00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.559 tell you a story about fter nine to eleven about Germany. 549 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:55.359 Okay, we'll get it tod that I was the president 550 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:55.680 of the. 551 00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.960 Students and the job thought I was a travel ager. 552 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.480 They called me up and they said, bring all the 553 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.200 Germans over. You're the president students. I said, yeah, we 554 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.279 want you to get fifty people together because they're going 555 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:13.279 to be sent over to Germany. I said, do I 556 00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.960 look like a travel as to you? Are you kidding me? 557 00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:18.720 What do I know? They said, yeah, get some you know, 558 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:20.960 you could bring your wives or something like that. 559 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:21.960 So I got. 560 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.079 I said, I didn't want to get the guys from 561 00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:26.839 like the first division because they would get more money 562 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.200 and more things and the Trona. So I got like 563 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:34.440 forty one engine. I got something company you mean squad 564 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.720 forty one? No, I won't. 565 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:40.960 I knew it. 566 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.359 They were forty one engine for most of my career. 567 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.440 And trying to bait them bro I'm trying to bait him. 568 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.599 You see that on that one. Real quick, I'll change 569 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.400 the subject. I get detailed though Squad forty one. I 570 00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.599 walk in the door and there's a young lieutenant there 571 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.079 and he goes, hey, hey, you doing. What are you 572 00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:04.480 here for? I said, I'm detailed from sixty to forty one. 573 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:07.799 He says, oh, we don't need anybody go back to sixty. 574 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.440 You probably get sent somewhere up. Okay. Well, at the time, 575 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.799 Jimmy Lafferty, who I worked with for over twenty years, 576 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.839 he was the man power pull for Sock. He did 577 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.559 demand power and he calls up sixty. He says, who's 578 00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.839 the asshole that just sent to forty one? Oh? John 579 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.559 Roup put them on the phone. So I get on 580 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.400 the phone. He says, hey, asshole. I said yeah. He 581 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.000 goes he went to forty one. I said, yeah, Well, 582 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.920 he just called me and said, don't send me an 583 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:39.160 Indian guy. I owed, you want sock guys or truckies? 584 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:43.119 I said really, I said, you know what, send them 585 00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:47.680 a prob trucky if you can this way, I said, 586 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.519 I have twenty five years on a job. Send them 587 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.200 a prob right, I said. I did more truck work, 588 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:57.559 probably than he did. Anyway, the battalion sends me the 589 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:01.160 nineteen truck, one of the best truck companies around. I 590 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:03.599 get there. They're going out to a job, so I 591 00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:06.839 rushing that I can hear them, and the boss goes. 592 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.039 I said, who's gonna Who am I relieving? He says, 593 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.039 the guy's not gonna go now he knows there's a 594 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.920 job going on. Go in the the nineteen truck had 595 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.000 that truck with the phone booth on the side. Just 596 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.039 go in there. You're the second roofman. Not a problem. 597 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.400 So I go. I go in there and we go 598 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.079 to the job. Go up to the roof. We're doing 599 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.720 it with pulling the siel and that doing it. Go down, 600 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:36.160 go down to the search. Now I see there's one 601 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.559 all by himself, all right, So I walk up to him. 602 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:44.799 I go, hey, assholes, you're talking to me. I said, well, 603 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.559 you're the only asshole here. I said, you know what, 604 00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.079 I couldn't work in your ship, Alfred, but the guy 605 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.799 who does the man power pull I worked for him 606 00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:58.200 over twenty years. He told me you didn't want me 607 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.200 because I was an engine guy. I got more experience 608 00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:05.319 than your hold backstep and guess what, I just had 609 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.759 the roof with one of the best truck companies on 610 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.079 the job. So guess what, You're an asshole. So he got, 611 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.799 I can get you in trouble. I said, Well, is 612 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:20.079 a friend of mine and I'm president of the studens, 613 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:23.000 so I know a lot of people downtown. Try your 614 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:23.920 best shot, buddy. 615 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:25.599 Oh right. 616 00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.160 That was the end of that story. 617 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.960 Did you work with him as a fireman, Vanison? 618 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.799 He was in forty two, right, So a couple of 619 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:35.640 times I was over here. 620 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:36.960 He worked in busy place man. 621 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.000 He was, oh yeah, forty two. 622 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:39.559 Yeah. 623 00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.839 I'll tell you what. A lot of guys discounted and 624 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.160 didn't like him because, oh, you can't be union guy. 625 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.200 You can't be. You never hurt me, You never hurt anybody. 626 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:54.359 I actually knew in the fire department. Guys had a 627 00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:56.599 heart on for him. That's their fault. I don't you know. 628 00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.599 I'm not. You do what you gotta do. I know 629 00:33:59.640 --> 00:33:59.960 what I got. 630 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.319 We had him on the show, John. We had him 631 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.960 on the show about two three months ago, and he 632 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.240 pulled no punches. He answered any question. He's like I 633 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.000 got on the high bro. He was. 634 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:09.320 He was. 635 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:10.320 He was great he's great. 636 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.719 I've just seen him at the stupid decaraye, right, oh, 637 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.320 and I gave him a little what for a little 638 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.280 bit for what? He comes up behind me and he 639 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.679 at the stupid decaray and he's rubbing my shoulders. Now 640 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.039 I don't know who it is, and he's doing that, 641 00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.440 and I go, yeah, whoever you are, you must have 642 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:32.559 been a trucky because she got soft hands. And I 643 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.360 turned around and said, oh, this Tommy. I used to 644 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.280 be able to call him Tommy. It's like ed when 645 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:44.559 no one was around, he was around. Yeah, so that 646 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:45.039 was that. 647 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.920 Did you did they have thirty day details back then? 648 00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.199 Did you go to the thirty day details? 649 00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.280 Yeah? To the truck. They didn't have that. 650 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.199 Oh you mean to go to the truck? No, No, 651 00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:57.920 I asked to go to the truck by Captain Canals. 652 00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.480 He was seventeen truck. But Patty even create the Irish spy, 653 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.960 said you can't be going to those fakes body. We 654 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:06.440 need you in the engine. 655 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:08.639 That's what I was gonna say. You never wanted to 656 00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:10.159 go to the truck. You always liked the engine work. 657 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.519 I was stating about going to the truck. But like 658 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.679 I said, my captain when he put his hand on 659 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.599 your shoulder and he said, no, you're staying in the end. 660 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.400 I said, okay, And then I liked actually having a 661 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.400 hose in my hand and putting fire out. You know that. 662 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.519 I used to say to the truck my son was 663 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:35.079 a trucky and my mother up for bid make she 664 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.559 rest in heaven. She asked them. She goes, oh, what's 665 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.360 the difference between the answer and the truck. So I said, well, 666 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.719 the truck. They go up to the fire house and 667 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.199 a fire building and they go, I break down out 668 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.639 book and she goes and she looks at me, and 669 00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.599 I said, then the engine comes in and they put 670 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.880 the fire out. The truck don't put the fire out. Now, 671 00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.440 why would they do? They can't put it out with them, 672 00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:00.880 they got these books. They can't with the fire. No, 673 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.599 they standing there and watch her. No, they can't do that. 674 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.519 I said, ay do Hey, John, I watched. 675 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:12.400 He's been I am watching live. Is what he's saying. 676 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.800 Honor to call your friend and brother, and I wish 677 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.639 you all the best. Honor to call your son a brother. 678 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.719 Firefighter Also in the job shirt Michael Tom Mike Thomas, 679 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:23.360 thank you. 680 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.800 Answer question for you, John, where they come up with 681 00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.480 the name Green Berets. Why do they call them the Berets? 682 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:30.880 Stole my question? 683 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:35.360 Or the the Emerald Society Band, the pipe band. Yeah, 684 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:40.360 in the basement of sixty seventeen Billy, Yes, And there 685 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.039 was a bunch of Irish. 686 00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:45.519 Bies fus seek oaks seek. 687 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.400 I'm telling you now they were I'm German, German Irish, 688 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:53.840 and I'm telling you I learned to hate the bag pipes. 689 00:36:56.280 --> 00:37:02.159 Pipes and it does squeak can kill that catter? Ready 690 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:07.840 for Christ's sake, you know, I love the band, but 691 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.840 you can only take so much, right, so they but 692 00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:13.480 they started that in the basement. 693 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:14.880 And that's where they came up with the Green Beerrays. 694 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:16.639 What what year is that about? 695 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.480 Let me see, that would have to be sixties, the 696 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.440 late sixties, I guess mid the late sixties. 697 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:26.039 And when did they come up with the named Green 698 00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:26.599 Beer Rays in. 699 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:27.960 The sixties before me? 700 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:28.679 I don't know. 701 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.000 I got that. And there's still the Green Bereys, even 702 00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.440 though I venture to say that the Irish population in 703 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:38.880 the firehouse has gone down. 704 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.159 Yes, probably that wasn't the truck and the engine. It 705 00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:44.679 was just the engine that with the Green berays, both 706 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:45.920 both and the chief. 707 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.280 The chiefs would have a green beret Onto and Joe McLaughlin. 708 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:54.679 You had a picture of him earlier standard of the firehouse. 709 00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:01.079 His mother, that guy, his mother made all the original 710 00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:02.400 green berets. 711 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.280 Oh really, yeah, you would knit them. 712 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.360 So if you had an original. 713 00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:13.519 You got the picture of them with the upstairs. I have. 714 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:16.960 This one there you go. 715 00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.280 I would say she made half of those because some 716 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.559 of the guys were new and I don't know where 717 00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:28.000 the how they got their bearrats from. Wow, but uh 718 00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.239 anyo at the time on the joble no other guys 719 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:32.039 do have time. 720 00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.079 On We were talking in the pre show how you 721 00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.480 were talking about like in house watch with it you 722 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:40.320 weren't allowed to watch TV that had like what year 723 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.039 we talking about, like seventy nine. 724 00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:47.760 Uh, nineteen eighty, early eighties. They would have the television 725 00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:53.000 in a little cutout and a sliding door. And if 726 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.119 you've seen it not the battalion chief they lived with us. 727 00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:58.840 It was fine with them. But if a deputy came 728 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.519 or higher up live de door older and you pretend 729 00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:10.000 like you were reading now they got a uh what 730 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.320 do you call folding bed comes out? Now? Right, all 731 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:18.079 those things. Murphy bed bigger television. But it doesn't matter 732 00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:21.519 because they're all on this right, all on the phone, 733 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:22.440 you know what I mean? 734 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.840 Yes, oh, we know. 735 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:26.039 What's amazing you have that. 736 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.239 What was the busiest business? 737 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:29.920 Get runs? 738 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.880 What was the busiest night? You can remember that John. 739 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:34.960 Fifteen, all hands are better and one night. 740 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:40.519 Fifteen all hands or better? In one night three. 741 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.079 Came up as chump change to you know, to relocate 742 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.599 to sixty seventeen. And when two ninety hit the Sharborough Bridge, 743 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.920 they are ninety to the Bronx, acting six to oh, 744 00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:57.880 and the Bronx said, yeah, two ninety you're sixth section 745 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.519 of sixty engine sponsor box SO and SOS whatever. And 746 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.519 then when you get done, if you go to sixty, 747 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:06.039 don't hit the computer. 748 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:11.679 You know, all hands are better and one night to one. 749 00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:15.239 Night to her, that's nice and that was fun. Yeah. 750 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.119 I wound up going to about four of them, right, you. 751 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.079 Was serious about that. 752 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.239 And it was in April. 753 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:29.360 It wasn't even in the winter. 754 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.519 April I think it was, or maybe it was March 755 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:38.559 something like that. It was not summer, and it was crazy, 756 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.920 mostly all hands and you know what some of if 757 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.519 they've seen smoke from five blocks. My it's in all hands. 758 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.280 Yeah. But yeah, Well, any any fires that stand out 759 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:50.480 to you? 760 00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:54.079 The fire with my son fought a long first two 761 00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:54.800 that stood out. 762 00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:01.400 The ship that's a I never heard that job before, 763 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.400 nob A lot of those those moments. 764 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:12.280 The tanks now the gas tanks. They were on fire 765 00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.800 down one hundred and thirty second Street day and me 766 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.840 last fire by stood out. 767 00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.280 Oh what was It. 768 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:26.599 Was a commercial building and we were second to eighty 769 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:32.039 three was first due, and I'm following the line and 770 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.559 it wasn't charged yet, and then when it charged, I 771 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.920 didn't realize it was dark, completely black. I was by 772 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:45.000 the truck entrance and you know the truck has like 773 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.920 four feet around it higher. Well, when they've charged the line, 774 00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:55.239 I didn't know better, but I went down the four 775 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.199 feet right on my right shoulder and that wasn't good. 776 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:04.039 It's tore my rotor coff So that was my last job, 777 00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:07.199 being my last job. 778 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.119 What year did you start driving? 779 00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:15.000 It depends on uh, you mean as a real chauffeur. 780 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.840 Not a company, No, as a as a Saulfaur chauffeur. 781 00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:24.639 One of the chauffers might have been under the weather. 782 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.440 You might say, you know he he caught a cold 783 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:29.880 or something down in the basement. 784 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.960 Ah, I got you and not fit for driving? 785 00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:39.679 Well, sorry, we're going down. He got to about one 786 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.400 hundred and forty and the rick stops, and well, everybody 787 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.000 on the backstep is going, what the hell is going 788 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.440 on here? And we look in the front and his 789 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:53.039 head is on the steeling road, allegedly allegedly on the steel. 790 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:57.599 And the captain, who wasn't too far behind him, says, row, 791 00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.719 get up here. He said, what he says, I know 792 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.159 you drive. You drove a truck in private life, so 793 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:05.000 you're driving. 794 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.199 I said, huh, how many? How many years you have 795 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:08.920 on at this point? 796 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.159 At that point? Eight? 797 00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:13.880 And when did you get the seat? 798 00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:17.280 Hey? So I got and so I got down there 799 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.039 and I'm going, thank god that every Sunday morning we 800 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.360 had drills. So I knew what a hydrant was, you know, 801 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.079 So you know, so I hooked up to the hydrant 802 00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:31.920 and I sister took a line off me, so I 803 00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:34.639 knew where to put it in the water, and I 804 00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.199 gave it to him. Little did I know that forty 805 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.360 one and eighty three also came down and took lines 806 00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.559 off me. Because it was sixty. And now they're calling 807 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:50.199 for water. I'm going, why are you calling me? And 808 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.800 I look in the backstep and there's two lines hanging down, 809 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:55.639 so I grabbed one of them. I put it on 810 00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.360 and I said, here comes your water. I didn't know 811 00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:57.960 what you was rich. 812 00:43:58.199 --> 00:43:59.079 Oh make it. 813 00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:03.079 I'm happy. And when I'm not so happy, And now 814 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.159 the deputy finally shows up and eighty three and twenty 815 00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.280 nine just get on hygrants and blah blah blah blah, 816 00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:14.599 and helped the shaw for for sixty leave me alone 817 00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.280 and finally get the water. And after the job, eighty 818 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:23.519 three lieutenant comes down. He's yelling at me. I asked 819 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.679 for water. I don't want water, And I said, what 820 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.920 would be nice if you guys actually took the hosing 821 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.159 handed to me? So I know what the hell I'm doing, 822 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:33.880 I said, I only became a show for about an 823 00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:38.559 hour ago on the fire at the fire well and 824 00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:40.519 that was the end of that. That was my first job. 825 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:42.880 That's when I had that ross relief valve. Right, you 826 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.079 had the when you had to crank back when it 827 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:50.239 trickled out of the pipe, right when you're in the max. 828 00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:56.880 Oh, we never had a back. American France did, yeah, 829 00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:01.280 American France, and I forget the first one was nineteen 830 00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:06.920 eighty something whatever it was, but never had a mac o. 831 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:08.440 Susan Murray loves you. 832 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.079 And Jennifer Foley want a chat as well. 833 00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:15.440 And Jennifer Foley she's on that. Another daughter. 834 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:18.559 Now you let him marry an Irish guy, John, you 835 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:19.679 let her mary an Irish. 836 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.400 Kany you look at the irishman. 837 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:26.880 She didn't marry as good to Foley and Murray. What 838 00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:31.079 are you thinking on Maurial Murray, they're gonna marry Germans. No, 839 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:35.360 I got three sons, they're old roars. And then my 840 00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.960 other daughter married a Greek glick. 841 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:39.559 What do you got? 842 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:45.000 Six kids? He's a great guy. He's upstate now killing 843 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:46.280 for defense. 844 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:49.159 Oh like louis nice? 845 00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.960 So you lleye quiet, I'm hunting weapons. 846 00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:59.920 You got? You got six kids? Six kids? Cause and 847 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.880 gotta got a television. We haven't had one since. 848 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.960 Good for you. Six kids and only one of them 849 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:10.840 became One son became a fireman. 850 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.760 And one became a correction officer who just he got hurt, 851 00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.360 had got hurt on the job, had a knee replacement. 852 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.079 And it's hard to get out of the corrections. They 853 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.119 put him back to full dirty. He goes back, they 854 00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.320 gets into another You know, the convicts don't give a 855 00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:34.679 crap job attacktic. So they attacked him again and he 856 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:36.880 had to get a second knee replacement. 857 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:38.360 That sucks. 858 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.480 And I might as well tell you this. He beat 859 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.760 the crap out of someone on the job. You know, 860 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.519 they attacked him. So he was a big he's a 861 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.760 big guy. He beats him up. They soon, so they 862 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:55.800 go to their Bronx. Bronx convict, you're gonna win. So 863 00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.480 he lost and they don't. They don't cover you in 864 00:46:58.519 --> 00:46:59.320 a correction department. 865 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.440 Wait a minute, wait you tell me that the convict one? 866 00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:03.639 Yes, well, no you didn't win the fight. 867 00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.679 He no, he won this the lawsuit. Yeah, what did 868 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:09.719 not supposed to have? Right you was talking about. 869 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:15.719 Top You see a correction officer in the Bronx. They 870 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:18.239 always the copy gonna win and the correction officer ain't 871 00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:18.639 gonna win. 872 00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.360 Right now, Going back when you when you got to sixty, 873 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.440 what was what was the neighborhood like? Was a like 874 00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:27.519 crime infested crack with I mean cracked eighties is the crack? 875 00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.840 Yeah, yeah, crackers, whack yeah. We had a liquor store 876 00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:36.360 next to the firehouse with about I would say fifteen 877 00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:45.199 eighteen locals, and within three years there might have been 878 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:45.960 two of them left. 879 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:46.519 They all. 880 00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:53.840 They didn't like move. They just died dead from We 881 00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:57.480 had more shootings i've been. I responded to quite a 882 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.599 few guys that I have one guy this best. When 883 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.360 I was a chauffeur at the end of my career, 884 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:04.840 I had this captain. He was a real asshole. 885 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:06.920 No. 886 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.800 When when I pull up to the firehouse, you gotta 887 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.760 turn a little bit, so you get back in and 888 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.880 I'm facing the projects across the street. Here comes the 889 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.079 guy out of the project and another guy behind him shoots 890 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:18.800 him night in the back of. 891 00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.639 The head mob style. 892 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:23.440 He's getting out of the rig yelling to the guys 893 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.559 in the back, we got a guy shot across the street. 894 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.960 Get the medical bag. I said, stay in the ring. 895 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.199 We're gonna back this bad boy up. Get bricks between 896 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:33.559 us and the guy with the gun. And he says, 897 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:36.360 are you giving orders? I said, well, are you going 898 00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.239 to be an asshole? And go? With his shooters still 899 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:42.800 off the seat. Now we go into firehouse. You can 900 00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.880 see the guy going down the block. I said, okay, 901 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:48.960 let's go cross the street, and we got proby Branda Broby. 902 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.800 I felt bad for him, first time he ever seen 903 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:55.000 anything like just and they's got brain mattter coming out 904 00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.880 of his head. He's still moving a little bit. And 905 00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.280 I told the probe he's gonna be dead within the minute. 906 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.480 I'm telling you right now. And he craps out in 907 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:05.760 the provs like, oh, oh, I can't this, Oh this 908 00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:12.800 is bad. And the cops come and says, I'll get 909 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:14.639 in your car. We'll go around there and let's see 910 00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.239 if we can find the shooter. I said, guys, he's 911 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.159 going to get one of us killed, right comes back 912 00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:24.000 five minutes later, now that the project's over. Over there, 913 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.519 got hundreds of people all around this, you know, watching 914 00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.159 what's going on. And he comes back and the cop 915 00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:31.960 walks away from me and he shouts at the cop 916 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:34.320 if we see him, I'm going to pull you up 917 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.840 and tell you I got him. I said, guys, let's 918 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:39.480 go back in the fire house. This knit it's going 919 00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:40.320 to get us killed. 920 00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:40.880 Yep. 921 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:46.519 And by the way, his name was Alanagan again wolf again. 922 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:47.480 Oh. 923 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.559 I was the Comisarf sixteen years. In my fifteenth year, 924 00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:56.840 calls me into the office. He says, you know, I 925 00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:59.760 don't like the idea of one commissof I want to 926 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.599 make it second Commissar. I said, hold your thought, cap, 927 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.239 I'll be right back. Ran upstairs, got the paperwork, got 928 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.199 all the money, came down through it on his dests. 929 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:11.440 I said, you'd better make two because I'm out. He said, well, 930 00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:13.920 I'll make two, he says, I said, you can't make 931 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.679 any it's the firehouse. Everybody in the firehouse votes for 932 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.760 commisar R. You got one vote. The sixty four guys 933 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.559 in the firehouse, you're one of sixty four. 934 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:24.960 Is that the same captain asshole? 935 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:25.960 Yeah? 936 00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:26.639 So I go. 937 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:28.760 I go in the sitting room, which is right next 938 00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.559 to his office. He can hear every basically almost everything 939 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.920 that's going on in the sittingroom. I'm there with some 940 00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.079 guys and I'm telling my tailor woe. All of a sudden, 941 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.079 his door slams. He goes out to the house. Watch 942 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:43.119 all in the front of the firehouse. Fireman rowed to 943 00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:47.239 the house to the engine office, and they going always calling. 944 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.760 He's calling you now, So I said, well, I ain't 945 00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:51.960 going in there now. All you got, I said, I 946 00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:53.599 ain't going in there, and I don't go in there. 947 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:57.960 Five minutes later, out there the house watching again, fireman 948 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.960 rowed to the engine office. He says, a second goal, 949 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.639 you gotta go in there. I'm still not going in there. 950 00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.800 I'm sitting there. Third time he comes out of the office, 951 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.280 he comes into the sitting room. Can you hear me 952 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:12.599 calling you? I said, you knew I was here. Why 953 00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.119 did you go out to the house watching broadcast that 954 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:16.800 you want me to androw off? Why did you just 955 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:19.000 come in like a gentleman and asked me to come 956 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.360 back in? He didn't say a word. Come in your office. 957 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.280 I go in your office, hands me back the paperwork 958 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.559 in the money. He says, okay, you'll be the only 959 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:35.719 housewatch only commissaw commissarw So. I said, well, okay, you 960 00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:39.360 could have started that conversation a long time ago. I said, 961 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:42.239 but you only got one vote. Or if you want, 962 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.639 you know, you can ask everybody to vote me out. 963 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.400 It's fine with me. I doing it for almost fifty 964 00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:49.679 I was over fifteen years. 965 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:51.119 It's a fucking factless job. 966 00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:56.480 Commisso, I have before letter name or HR four letters. 967 00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:01.039 He misspelt it twice on official paperwork. This spelled it. 968 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.800 So I find this out and I said, okay, so 969 00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:06.880 I'm on the watch. He gets a phone calls name 970 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:16.000 is Lonigan, and I'm going luka goo. One guy goes 971 00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.320 in the office. He goes, he's calling you any of 972 00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.760 my name? He says, no, that's your name for him. 973 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.079 So he picks up the phone, captain and just chicks up. 974 00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.079 So now he gets another phone call and I do 975 00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:32.440 it again, lulau luka. Who picks up the phone. Then 976 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:33.599 he comes out to me and goes, why are you 977 00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.039 doing this? I said, when you spell my name right, 978 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:37.440 I'll pronounce your name right. 979 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:41.760 Got it for you, broy. 980 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.280 For you takes ship from nobody, takes. 981 00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:44.760 Ship from nobody. 982 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:46.760 You the Were you the senior man when you left there? 983 00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:49.920 Yes? Bye bye? 984 00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:52.639 Quite a bit right. 985 00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:57.599 Oh, here's one thing. Being a chauffeur. I always took 986 00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.440 the junior guy in the engine. I don't care how 987 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.239 many years or months or minutes he had on a jock. 988 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.000 You I would clean the rake on a day tour. 989 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:11.360 You polish your brass. That was that was my thing. 990 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.119 Every day tour I cleaned the rake. The junior man 991 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.960 would polish your brass. We had some things that were brass. Okay, 992 00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:22.679 talk about senior man. I'm retired. I'm retiring. I gotta 993 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:27.159 show you this. I had to retirement party. Oh look 994 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:27.639 what they. 995 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:32.400 Gave me bread. That's nice, bro, Bring up a little higher, 996 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:33.519 Bring it up a little higher. 997 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:38.559 John turn, turn a little and he gives me a apology. 998 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.400 Breath over and he said, polish your own goddamn brass. 999 00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:47.079 That is nice. 1000 00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:52.400 It's heavy, too solid brass. God, But Joe, I pulled. 1001 00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.800 Up some pictures from nineteen seventy nine in the Bronx. 1002 00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:56.599 I want to know if this is what it looked 1003 00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:58.039 like when you were up there, go ahead. 1004 00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.880 Was there any fire? Yes, that would be closer to 1005 00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:08.079 fifty engine eighty two engine uh north of eighty three engined. 1006 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:09.920 We had a lot of projects by us. 1007 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:13.239 You had, John guns, Oh yeah. 1008 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:17.159 That looks good. I think that the people probably moved out. 1009 00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:20.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1010 00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:22.320 And then the other we have was just just uh 1011 00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:23.639 kind of look right here. 1012 00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.079 Yeah. I mean you know what, I feel sorry for 1013 00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:28.079 those people. 1014 00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.039 John. You know what, people, especially the young kids, they 1015 00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:33.880 don't realize what that You show these pictures and they 1016 00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:35.800 have no idea what it was like up there. In 1017 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:36.199 the box. 1018 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:40.440 Do you'll tell you what that Uh, it's it's said, 1019 00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:46.400 Yeah that was said, and uh, you know what, what 1020 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:51.960 can you say? Yeah, it's it's terrible and they you 1021 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:56.639 know why, department did a lot of work. As you 1022 00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:59.519 could tell we, uh, saved a lot of buildings. 1023 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:00.880 Yeah. 1024 00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:02.320 I didn't want to ask you though. 1025 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.639 Right, Foundations saved a lot of foundations, Mike. 1026 00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:06.840 I didn't want to ask because you spent your whole 1027 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.920 career there. You didn't really bounce around too much twenty 1028 00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:12.239 six years there. So sometimes progress is faster in other 1029 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.360 areas of the city than others slower, vice versa. By 1030 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:18.159 the time the mid nineties came around or towards the 1031 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:20.559 end of your career four to oh five, was the 1032 00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.679 area substantially improved or did it take a longer time? 1033 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:26.400 Absolutely? Okay, I'm trying to think of his name. It 1034 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:31.679 was a priest, his brother was a politician whatever. He 1035 00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:37.559 started coming up with money and they were building houses. 1036 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.920 They were kind of attached down the block, like you know, 1037 00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:48.000 two story jobs, and they built a lot of them, 1038 00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:52.119 and uh, you know you mentioned seventy three, forty two, 1039 00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:53.880 they had a lot of them all around there, and 1040 00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:58.119 everything and the neighbors started being nice. 1041 00:55:58.519 --> 00:55:58.639 Uh. 1042 00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:03.599 When built where Freedom Land was in the Bronx, they 1043 00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:07.559 built co Op City that emptied out the Grand Concourse, 1044 00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:14.280 the Green Concourse. Most of those people moved to co 1045 00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.800 Op City, right, and a lot of the people that 1046 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.760 got burnt out in the South Bronx go to the 1047 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:23.000 Grand Concourse, which Babe Ruth lived on, by the way. 1048 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.440 Really, yeah, but you had I mean there are a 1049 00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:28.800 lot of buildings. You would go to the same buildings 1050 00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:30.760 over and over, sometimes in the same night, right, I 1051 00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:33.039 mean you'd go to a fire and be back there 1052 00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:33.960 not too long after. 1053 00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:36.199 I'm not too proud of this, but I'm going to 1054 00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:41.559 tell you an incident. I got the nozzle going upstairs 1055 00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.079 to a fire. Say it's on the third or fourth floor. 1056 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:49.519 I forget, and here's a guy coming down with a suitcase. Okay, 1057 00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.960 And as he's passed me, he tells me, oh, my 1058 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:58.360 son is in the apartment on the fourth floor. So 1059 00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:02.960 I accidentally stuck out my foot and he tripped all 1060 00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:08.920 the way down the stairs. And it was an accident, rightly, 1061 00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:14.239 it happened. Yeah, it was the noise left in the apartment. 1062 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:19.599 But he could suitcase. Yeah, you know because uh sometimes 1063 00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:23.000 and it's this is true. The landlords would tell them 1064 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:27.119 you better be out by Friday night. Of course they 1065 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:31.360 had lightning coming, and there was a derogatory term they 1066 00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.679 used to call Jewish lightning. You know, I personally didn't 1067 00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.280 care for that term, but they called the Jewish lightning. 1068 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:43.639 The neighbor would sell the building to the insurance company. 1069 00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:46.920 Right, I mean back then too, if you got burnt 1070 00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:49.199 out of your house, you you pushed to the front 1071 00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:52.440 of the line for subsidized housing right to a lot 1072 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.159 of the people. A lot of these people would have 1073 00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.039 their bags and everything packed sitting on. 1074 00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.840 The curve fifty first Street and offered the Grand concourse 1075 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:04.599 was a watch the avenue or something like that, whatever 1076 00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.800 it was, one to the left of it. They had 1077 00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.519 the office there where you would go in and get 1078 00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:15.199 the new apartment right and we would get cold there 1079 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:19.280 quite often because they'd have a line right then you'd 1080 00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:21.960 go up to the front of the line and get 1081 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.000 a new apartment. We would get false alarms there quite 1082 00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:30.119 often because every time they pulled the alarm, everybody have 1083 00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:33.760 to get out, and now they're going back in and 1084 00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:34.360 you know, to. 1085 00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:35.039 The front of the line. 1086 00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:41.559 The line. Yeah, so they would do that jack asses. 1087 00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:44.360 We would go there all the time. It's like Jesus Chris, 1088 00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:48.960 you know, we're going back there again. And then we 1089 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.440 found out for one party. Yeah, they keep pulling up 1090 00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.679 fregget alarm and and just to get in front of 1091 00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:59.280 the line. And they get two thousand dollars for new furniture. 1092 00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.519 Right yep. So you pull up to a job and 1093 00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:04.400 people will be on the curb with all their bags 1094 00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:06.960 and all that ship. Absolutely they would go to the 1095 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:07.599 front of the line. 1096 00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:11.400 Man, I mean, you know, it's it's a shame, but 1097 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:16.400 it happened. And now on the bottom of the Bronx 1098 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:21.320 by Bruckn the boulevard there there used to be what 1099 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:25.840 would you say, not you know, off not off buildings 1100 00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.400 that they used to manufacture stuff and this and that, 1101 00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:33.840 and they turned it into like soho really yeah, I'm 1102 00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.960 telling you all these yuppy yuppies people moving in there 1103 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:43.440 because they're only two or three stops on the fore 1104 00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:47.639 train to get downtown, you know. And uh, all of 1105 00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:50.960 a sudden you go to opt in the Bronx and 1106 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:54.960 Bruck the Bulvard. The old people are not the animal, 1107 00:59:55.719 --> 01:00:01.400 it's the young regentrified. Oh yeah, yeah, I you know, 1108 01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:04.360 I'm not used to walking into a bar the guys 1109 01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:06.159 have a retirement party and want of the bars and 1110 01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:09.079 bipructional bulbar. I'm not used to walking in the bar 1111 01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.559 down there and see nothing but white people. Yeah, I'm going, 1112 01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:14.079 where am I? 1113 01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:15.039 Yeah? 1114 01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:18.199 This ain't the South Bronx that I know. And the 1115 01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.159 guy goes to me, what are you doing? They said, 1116 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.199 I'm looking for retiring Oh that's the other bar down 1117 01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.039 the other corner. And I walked down there and there 1118 01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:28.719 was my guys down there, and there was a lot 1119 01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.599 of govern white people of the guys in there too, 1120 01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.159 And I'm going and then that's telling me, oh, yeah, 1121 01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.440 this building here, this building here, and now if you 1122 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.159 went up to one hundred and thirty eighth Street, well 1123 01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.199 your building, not all of them, but a lot of 1124 01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:47.280 them are down and new projects going up and it's 1125 01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:50.119 all jetified. And I'm going, well, I don't know if 1126 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:52.039 that's good bear and different because they kicked a lot 1127 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:53.920 of people out, I don't know where they're going. 1128 01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:56.920 Yeah, I mean I drove through not too long now, 1129 01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:00.239 maybe a year ago. I drove to Bedstyle right, asked 1130 01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.400 one eleven and two fourteen, and I'm like this yuppie 1131 01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:06.800 moms pushing baby carriages, people on bikes. I'm like, what 1132 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.280 the hell happened at bed? Stuffy? 1133 01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.599 Go on one eleven and two fourteen? Go to the 1134 01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:14.440 stupid meeting every month. A whole bunch of them, about 1135 01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:17.840 twelve of them. Good guys. But I give them the 1136 01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:20.679 business every time I get. Of course you do, of course, 1137 01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:24.159 I said, you know, I tell them you guys do 1138 01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:24.960 any work at all. 1139 01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.039 You're like, oh, you don't have a we don't have 1140 01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.079 a partner on, but you're gonna tell them if he 1141 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:33.199 popped on he's not in DV. 1142 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.119 Come on, Oh jeez, it's still he said, between nine 1143 01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:37.519 and we had there's still a slight chance. 1144 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:38.760 He was struggling chat. 1145 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:42.840 Why was their house the only building on their block? 1146 01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:48.039 But all that it's so good? Why they lost every 1147 01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:48.719 other building? 1148 01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:53.079 Now? Actually there's a lot of uh those two stories, yeah, 1149 01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:54.480 two story projects on the board. 1150 01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:57.000 We got a cap they're old. There was a lieutenanty 1151 01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:01.079 I became a captain of seventeen. Dave Maxwell, big guy 1152 01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:05.440 could take all the smoke you ever wanted to give him. 1153 01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:12.679 He was a great fireman. But that's Probrary left. Now 1154 01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:17.960 they're good. They're a good house, except Canossie hates them. 1155 01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:21.280 Kenosi hates what oh right, right right right? 1156 01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:22.280 Yeah? You know why? 1157 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:23.760 Yes, yeah, I do. 1158 01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:29.079 It also life and and Canossi still blames them. 1159 01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:31.039 Yeah, what the hell was I just gonna ask you 1160 01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:32.280 ship while. 1161 01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:33.599 You while you pondered that, I was just gonna I 1162 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:34.920 want to real quick. 1163 01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:36.800 Before while you go to the bathroom. 1164 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:39.360 That's I'm talking with John Roar here in episode two 1165 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:41.519 Hudred and thirty to get Salty Experience. I mean, there's 1166 01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:44.360 a lot of debate with gentrification that's not going to 1167 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.679 be settled here, that's for sure. But I'll ask you 1168 01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:49.800 this as someone again he spent twenty six years watching 1169 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.079 one neighborhood evolve from one direction to another from seventy 1170 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:54.000 nine to five. 1171 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:57.159 I mean, is there a little bit of pride from the. 1172 01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:00.800 Standpoint that had you guys not done the work you did, 1173 01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:02.519 the neighborhood would have never have been a position to 1174 01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:03.880 change in the first place, because. 1175 01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:04.960 A lot of that was due to the good work 1176 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:05.760 of the FDLI. 1177 01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:09.800 There were a lot of good people. Don't get me wrong. 1178 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:13.079 South Brons had a lot of good people of course, yeah, 1179 01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:17.559 and they had networks young. 1180 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:19.119 Yeah. 1181 01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.639 And we used to give a lunch to the seniors 1182 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.360 from my Downald block was the Senior Center and we 1183 01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:27.360 used to make a big lunch. Itb be about one 1184 01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.360 hundred and some people. We would give lunch show every year. 1185 01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:35.400 And one woman told me, she says, do you notice 1186 01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.079 that a lot of old people past your firehouse early 1187 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:42.000 in the morning. I said, well, not, you know, not that, 1188 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:47.239 not that I'm outside looking at old people, I said, 1189 01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:49.599 But yeah, I say, she says, because the old people 1190 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:52.960 early in the morning go shopping and go back into 1191 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:57.800 their house because all the young guys that are not 1192 01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:01.559 so nice, they're out to at night and they sleep 1193 01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:04.480 late in the morning. So we go out so we 1194 01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:08.159 don't get robbed or picked on or whatever. And I said, 1195 01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:11.360 I never really noticed that, but that was from one 1196 01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.559 of the seniors that we know. And I said, wow, 1197 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:18.159 I never noticed that, but I feel bad for that. 1198 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.639 You know, we have people shot all over the place, 1199 01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:27.039 and there's nothing like going to you know, somebody that's 1200 01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:31.960 still living, you know that's shot and you're waiting for 1201 01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:35.559 an ambulance. Which Lincoln Hospital was a block away from 1202 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:38.000 the firehouse, and we get there, and we got to 1203 01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:45.280 wait fifteen minutes for an ambulance. So one time a 1204 01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.519 guy gets a woman gets shot and one of guys, 1205 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:49.519 me and him go down. 1206 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:50.039 We see it. 1207 01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.519 He puts his finger in the bullethole to stop the 1208 01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.679 bleeding because the engine didn't get out yet and a 1209 01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:01.000 cop car was dead, and he he dumps her in 1210 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.920 the cop guard with his finger and he says, Lincoln, 1211 01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:08.159 hurry up and brings it to link it fifteen minutes 1212 01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:13.400 later and Enables showed up. Now they're gone, sorry too late. Yeah, 1213 01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:20.320 you know, and they would happen all the time. Uh Ams, 1214 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:24.480 they pick and choose, you know, unless, of course they 1215 01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:26.760 got so many calls that they couldn't make it. But 1216 01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:29.760 you know, because up there there are a lot of. 1217 01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:32.440 Coals, especially back then, and they didn't have a lot 1218 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.000 of resources either. This as well before the FDNY merger. 1219 01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:39.559 Uh well, you got news for you. The only reason 1220 01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:41.320 they want us be cauld We get there first and 1221 01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:46.440 we kind of stabilize the situation. Yeah, and then there's 1222 01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:48.840 a lot of people that might be a little bit overweight. 1223 01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:53.880 And when two girls show up and you look at 1224 01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.199 the patients and they're not going to pick him up. 1225 01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.880 So the engine of the truck has to pick him 1226 01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:01.880 up up and bring them downstairs and put them in 1227 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:07.920 the air blots. And there's some mighty big people. Yes, no, 1228 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:15.440 they might eat too much a little bit, you know that. Ye. 1229 01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:18.920 I want to ask you about the scene we're talking 1230 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:24.159 about Brooklyn and the Bronx, the legends, the turnout between 1231 01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.599 Brooklyn and the Bronx where they're running everybody's rock because 1232 01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:29.960 I started at Brooklyn too, So you're running to the 1233 01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:36.199 rig or you're sorry, so you tell me about it. 1234 01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:38.119 What was the turnout like in the Bronx? Your first, 1235 01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:39.840 do your first, do your second, do your second. Do 1236 01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:41.079 there's no beating anybody in. 1237 01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.039 You're right if you if I'm going to a job 1238 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:47.239 on the show, I'm going. 1239 01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:47.639 To a job. 1240 01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:49.960 I can see it's a job, and I could see 1241 01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:54.639 eighty three coming their first two I'm second to. I 1242 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:57.800 don't want to let them have the hydrant. I'll take 1243 01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:02.000 the next hydrid because their first I'm not gonna Oh, 1244 01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:04.559 I'm not like Brooklyn. You know what I'm talking about. 1245 01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:08.280 Here we go companies in Brooklyn, they beat your ass in. 1246 01:07:09.159 --> 01:07:12.559 If they were fifth due, they're racing down like I've 1247 01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:15.119 broke details in Brooklyn and I've seen the act that 1248 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.719 I'm going, Are you shooting me? You're trying to beat 1249 01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:22.519 that engine in their first your second, dude, give them 1250 01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:25.159 their duke, because if you get them their duke, they'll 1251 01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:26.119 give you your duke. 1252 01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:27.639 Don't work. 1253 01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:33.039 Yeah, forty one is a different story. No, they're not 1254 01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:33.559 a squad. 1255 01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:36.480 Oh they're in a hance tension. 1256 01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:40.079 Yeah, well they they had a Captain Adams. I love 1257 01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:42.639 that guy. He would try to get on the rigging. 1258 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.239 You know, we only had first do boxes going west 1259 01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:50.280 to the firehouse, the second due box going west. Basically 1260 01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:56.639 it was a harlem all right, going north with fifty 1261 01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:00.679 one engine was we only went three blocks and then 1262 01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:04.880 we were second due go in the other direction south 1263 01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:09.960 and east three blocks. In eighty three we had a 1264 01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.920 keeny weeny little first do area, but we still do. 1265 01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:16.520 You know, we were doing five thousand change runs there 1266 01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.039 the year, and uh a lot of them were first 1267 01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:27.079 do because for some reason, the projects were a nemesis, 1268 01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:30.960 you know, and uh a lot of it was some 1269 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:31.800 of it was bullshit. 1270 01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:32.880 You know. 1271 01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:38.000 They go to uh they went from to compactors. They 1272 01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:40.760 used to not be compactors. But they went to compactors 1273 01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:43.479 and for some reason they loved to light the compact 1274 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:49.720 us up on fire. Then it was bullshit though unless 1275 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.960 one hundred and thirty Hry. We had a report of 1276 01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.239 a man on fire and we got there and we 1277 01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:56.880 went in the door and they were shut shitting in 1278 01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.199 the hallway. There was a man on fire ship. Yeah 1279 01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:01.000 the movie. 1280 01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:06.600 What what are the buildings did you have there besides projects? 1281 01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:10.640 Well, when you got down the next block was all. 1282 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:12.560 All tenements as those are. 1283 01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:16.039 They were a lot of fun. Yeah, and then you 1284 01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:22.640 went south you would have you know, businesses, you know, 1285 01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:29.920 one three Atry was like a stores and all that 1286 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:38.079 commercial good stores down there. And uh, I gotta admit 1287 01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:39.960 we didn't do too well. 1288 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.439 Sometimes that's what says we can do. 1289 01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:46.680 So good, you can do so the head star and 1290 01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:52.319 you know, and we had one show for Patty McAndrews. 1291 01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.199 I love the guys. He's no longer with us. But 1292 01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:58.359 the more fire he's seen, the more pressure he'd give you. 1293 01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:02.560 And if you had a juice and a half, you know, 1294 01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:05.520 two and a half inch hose and you're trying to 1295 01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:08.000 hold a hose and he's pumping that bad boy up, 1296 01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:12.000 you he off the ground and you go were off 1297 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:17.800 the ground and going, yeah, can you lower the pressure? Yeah, 1298 01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:19.680 there was a lot of fire. Yeah, but I can't 1299 01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:21.039 put it out because I'm flying. 1300 01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:25.039 How did you h How was your relationship with Rescue three? 1301 01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:31.359 They were good? Yeah, good, Well, seventeen trucks sent a 1302 01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.119 couple of guys up there, you know, yeah, and uh, 1303 01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:36.520 you know, they were all right by the time. We 1304 01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:40.760 had a great job with Rescue three. And a lot 1305 01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:42.520 of times a lot of companies would come back to 1306 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:47.079 our quarters and somehow they would disappear from them, you know, 1307 01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:50.079 from the operator's floor. I don't know exactly where they went, 1308 01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:53.600 you know, but they would disappear. So the one night, 1309 01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:58.600 you know the brons, you know, you steal stuff and 1310 01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:01.399 the fire you know, a relocated steal something, and they 1311 01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:04.279 eventually you'd have to go to their firehouse and steal 1312 01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:07.399 it back. You couldn't see you steal it back. So 1313 01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:09.720 Rescue three came to our quarters and they back then 1314 01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:15.079 the quarters. So we stole the bumper, the bumper, the 1315 01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:17.800 bumper of the off the truck, and they didn't realize 1316 01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:20.159 until they got home. The back bumper. 1317 01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:20.680 We talked. 1318 01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.840 Went home and they called us up, your son of 1319 01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:26.600 a bitches. 1320 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.800 I didn't know that was a Bronx thing. I was 1321 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:33.960 told it was a prob be doing. I would go 1322 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:36.239 to another firehouse and not steal something. 1323 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:40.520 It was all over. There was a thing that looked 1324 01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:43.000 like a bomb or a torpedo or something like that. 1325 01:11:43.239 --> 01:11:45.800 I bet you that made twenty firehouses in the Bronx. 1326 01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:50.199 Everybody stole that, really, and no one, no one to 1327 01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:53.279 this day knows where it started. You know who owned 1328 01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.039 it because they went to every firehouse, and we had 1329 01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:59.640 to show that this is great. Forty two engines stole something. 1330 01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:02.239 Of matter of fact, I think it was the torpedo, 1331 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:06.159 and we go up there to relocade and we're looking 1332 01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:08.720 at it, but they came back. We could steal it, right, 1333 01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:12.359 So our show for Tom Mahoney, good guy, Greg guy, 1334 01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:16.479 He goes, all right, I'll figure this out. So forty 1335 01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:19.319 three would run in with forty forty two would run 1336 01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:22.159 in with forty three engine. Right, So they get a 1337 01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:25.840 fire together forty two, two and forty three. He calls 1338 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.760 up the dispatcher, which I wasn't too crazy about, and 1339 01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:32.800 he says, we want to relocate the forty three. So 1340 01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:34.640 we said, do you want to go to forty two 1341 01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:36.720 so we could steal that thing back? He says, we are, 1342 01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:40.319 but we're signed to forty three. They're at the fire 1343 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:43.199 We're going to forty two. Steal that they they'll never 1344 01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:46.479 know who was up to. And it was good. We 1345 01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:49.439 took it back and it wasn't a week later it 1346 01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:49.920 was gone. 1347 01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:51.000 It's gone. 1348 01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:52.359 Yeah, somebody stole it. 1349 01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:54.720 We had I'll tell you a quick story. We had 1350 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:59.239 a plaque about this big it said to eighty eight. 1351 01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:04.199 It was yellow gold with chrome letters. Right, So we 1352 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:06.880 go to a job and we didn't realize it. We 1353 01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.439 get back to the firehouse. It's gone. Somebody stole it 1354 01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:13.319 off the ring. About six months later, we start getting 1355 01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:17.039 postcards from guys who are going all over the country 1356 01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:19.600 on vacation and they send a picture of the thing, 1357 01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:22.319 like Hey, I'm in Disney World having a great time. 1358 01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:23.079 To see you soon. 1359 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:24.640 That's good. 1360 01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.720 They were all over the world send the pictures. You know, 1361 01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:30.640 they would cover their face, but they would have the 1362 01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:33.279 plaque like yeah, I'm in Germany, I'll see you soon 1363 01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:38.399 and take care right. So yeah, yeah, and then. 1364 01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:44.159 You got what's with us? Yeah, Well, hasn't it before 1365 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.359 has Matt was there that that was a you know 1366 01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.800 what they did inspects upstairs? Yeah, on the second Florida, 1367 01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:55.399 I did six weeks there doing inspections. Oh man, yeah, 1368 01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:59.880 not nice. No, I didn't like that at all. Yeah, 1369 01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:02.439 you know you had to go out and give violations out, 1370 01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:07.800 and so you know, every once in a while they're going, 1371 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.359 how many violations did you give out? I mean, well, 1372 01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:14.880 you know I have to see them. They said, you're 1373 01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:16.680 going to go in those buildings and you didn't see 1374 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:20.079 a violation? I said, no, don't I know? Yeah, give 1375 01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:22.279 me a list of what violations I should be looking for. 1376 01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:26.800 You know, I gave out something, but it was like 1377 01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:31.159 what am I going to bust people's shops for now? 1378 01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:34.960 If it was a real violation, you know, bad fun. 1379 01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:40.039 But yeah, oh that you had two doors going out. 1380 01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:42.079 One of them you know, like you know that have 1381 01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:45.439 two doors. One of them was kind of not you 1382 01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:47.800 couldn't open it or if you didn't give them a 1383 01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:51.039 violation for that, But I had the other door next, 1384 01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:54.119 But now I would give it out. 1385 01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:58.560 See you learned. Yeah, so let me let me tell you. 1386 01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:00.920 Let me tell you the end of that stories, Like 1387 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:02.640 did you ever get it? 1388 01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:02.840 Back. 1389 01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:05.119 Eight months later, there's a knock at the door in 1390 01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:08.199 the morning before roll call and the the plaque sitting 1391 01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:11.960 outside the door. I'm like, nobody else, Nope, just a plaque. 1392 01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:15.680 We put the plaque back on the rink. Right about 1393 01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:20.000 three months later, they send photos in an envelope of 1394 01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:22.960 some she had to be about four hundred pounds girl 1395 01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:25.600 in the shower urinating on the plaque. 1396 01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:32.279 Whoa man? Now, some of the guys that think we 1397 01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:33.560 discussed that before. 1398 01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:35.159 What you might know where they're from. 1399 01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:37.800 Oh, I know who they were. I know exactly who 1400 01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:39.920 they were. 1401 01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:41.039 And they didn't tell you the girl. So this way, 1402 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:42.960 you go knock on the door and say I want 1403 01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:44.399 to thank you for somebody. 1404 01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:47.479 Somebody called over there and said, you know what's you know, 1405 01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:50.600 it's great of that fuck of that chick pissing on 1406 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:53.319 that plaque. But you know what's terrible. One of you 1407 01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:57.399 guys is probably fucking that broad. 1408 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:02.880 I'll tell you what. None. Yeah, that's terrible. 1409 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:04.880 I know why you're laughing. 1410 01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:09.039 It's not the visual I was hoping to witness Monday Night. 1411 01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:12.159 But nevertheless, I tell people the truth. 1412 01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:15.800 I tell people that the best comedy show you'll ever 1413 01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:17.960 see in your life is a firehouse kitchen. 1414 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:22.720 Oh my god, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you'll learn that you 1415 01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:25.000 can't make up the ship that happened to learn that. 1416 01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:27.479 I don't know about that happened. They might be a 1417 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:29.600 little dry. 1418 01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:32.199 And we're getting him ready, though, John, We get him ready. 1419 01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:33.520 He knows. 1420 01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:36.039 And I hope you put a fire out your first day. 1421 01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:39.880 Thank you're putting out fires. He's putting fires. We don't 1422 01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:41.359 even know about it. He's putting out fires. 1423 01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:44.359 Oh God, tell about the women that come up with 1424 01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:45.000 the uniform. 1425 01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:47.399 Oh man on the batch monies. 1426 01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:52.479 Yeah, what we had one of the first women on 1427 01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:56.439 the job. You did sixty zales. 1428 01:16:56.960 --> 01:16:58.600 Hmmm, related to me. 1429 01:16:59.119 --> 01:16:59.880 We got by it. 1430 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:02.119 Oh with. 1431 01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:06.560 The one that was a lawyer that started the whole thing. 1432 01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:07.760 I can't remember her name. 1433 01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:12.239 Bred Brenda Burkley, all right, Brenda Berkman. 1434 01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:15.880 Brenda Burkman, the two of them. You know, back then, 1435 01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:19.760 if you were proby, the captain get you laid off 1436 01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:22.479 for no reason at all. He just said zero on 1437 01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:26.199 the account and you're gone. Well, they both of them 1438 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:30.279 got laid off, and they sued. She sued, and they 1439 01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.119 got went to court and the same liberal judge said, 1440 01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:37.520 down the Stuffisco ecosps door. You're back on the job. 1441 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:40.800 But Zey couldn't come back to us. She went to 1442 01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:46.199 in Harlem where they do the inspections on the second floor, 1443 01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:49.960 like to eighty eight. So she was doing inspections for 1444 01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:54.760 like the next ten twelve years. Then the job, in 1445 01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:57.399 their wisdom, let her go out to the Rock and 1446 01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:01.680 teach show for training. She never drove a day to life. 1447 01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:05.279 That's a minor technicality, John, come on, mine of technicality. 1448 01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:09.600 And then she went to seventy engine got to be 1449 01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:13.159 the busiest firehouse in the world. And this is the truth. 1450 01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:16.560 If you guys can look it up. Look up nineteen seventy. 1451 01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:19.479 I think it was five, maybe three, but seventy five 1452 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:23.399 or seventy three. They did twelve runs. 1453 01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:24.119 Twelve runs. 1454 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:27.359 Where are seven the engine not the city island? 1455 01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:28.720 Oh it is city Island. 1456 01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:32.439 Yeah, yeah, twelve runs, twelve And New York City Fire 1457 01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:35.079 Department does not allow you to put a report in 1458 01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:40.199 a monthly report runs runs a working report negative you 1459 01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:43.720 have to have a positive number. So one is a 1460 01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:44.439 positive number. 1461 01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:45.840 Yeah. I've heard a lot of. 1462 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:46.680 Stud over the year. 1463 01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:50.119 Yeah, I've had months. 1464 01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:51.920 They didn't do any runs back then. 1465 01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:54.239 Guys used to go home, right who lived over there 1466 01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:55.840 and leave the two doors away? 1467 01:18:56.159 --> 01:18:58.680 Yeah, and what he do is he put his boots 1468 01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:03.119 on his too, and that told the boss he was working. Yeah. 1469 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:08.880 They didn't get because what we're doing allegedly, Yeah, and 1470 01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:13.359 allegedly were you working when the college kids came around 1471 01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:16.239 and were teaching you about being nice on the job, 1472 01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:23.359 You mean, you know, inclusion and this is nice. Well, 1473 01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:25.560 they went to sixty seventeen and I want to tell 1474 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:30.520 you the right groups were working. Boy, oh boy, he 1475 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:32.439 went up one side of these people and down the 1476 01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:34.880 other side of the people. It wasn't nice. I have 1477 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:38.159 to admit it was not nice. Right because these young 1478 01:19:38.279 --> 01:19:42.039 college kids, they they did didn't expect this. Well, fast 1479 01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:44.600 forward about four months, three months, we go to seven 1480 01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:48.319 the engine relocate because they were going to get this 1481 01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:51.000 instruction and they're out of service, so they had to 1482 01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:53.600 get someone else there. They can't go out of service 1483 01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.359 or off the island without someone else being in their fire. 1484 01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:00.560 So sixty engine gets called to go there. Same college 1485 01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:03.720 kids over there giving them the instructions. So we're out 1486 01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:06.000 by the house, wash mind ow business and I'm a 1487 01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:08.239 coffee drinker and I said, I gotta go get a 1488 01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:10.279 couple of coffee. You I don't care what's going on. 1489 01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.279 So I go in there and I hear them talking 1490 01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:18.039 about my firehouse. How rude and how nasty these guys were. 1491 01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:21.640 They're the worst human beings that God have created. So 1492 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:25.159 I got my coffee. Excuse me, I got to leave now. 1493 01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:29.439 But you're saying about how being nice. Well, you're talking 1494 01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:33.239 about my firehouse and my guys and me, I said, 1495 01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:35.760 I don't think that's very nice to you. And I 1496 01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:38.039 walked out the door, and you should have seen the 1497 01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:40.800 expressions on their face, like, oh crap, what did we 1498 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:46.479 just do? Well, you don't learn about people if you 1499 01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:47.880 if you're not going to be nice. 1500 01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:49.359 But nice goes both ways. 1501 01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:53.359 Bro, try to be nice, but if you're not nice 1502 01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:55.640 to me, I'm going to be up one side and 1503 01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:56.119 down the other. 1504 01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:59.039 Let me ask you a question, John, what do you 1505 01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:01.199 think was the best time in your career? Like, if 1506 01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:04.239 you look back now, what was your favorite years in 1507 01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:04.720 your career? 1508 01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:09.960 My first when I was down the chauffeur. 1509 01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:12.279 When you first got to the firehouse. 1510 01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:15.079 When I was down the chauffeur, and well, I'll give 1511 01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:17.760 you an example. I always love to be a nossel man. 1512 01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:19.840 If I couldn't be a Nacevan. I wanted to be 1513 01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:21.600 the backup you guys. You know I was always wanted 1514 01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:22.119 to be in the frog. 1515 01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:22.680 Right. 1516 01:21:22.760 --> 01:21:27.000 So this kid, Dennis Hodgs, great guy. Me and him 1517 01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:30.239 used to have little rivalries. And I'm on the back step, 1518 01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.159 he's on the back step, and you know we actually 1519 01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:35.399 now we're inside, not actually on the back step of work, 1520 01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:39.000 we're inside the rig. And I said, yeah, I'm going 1521 01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:41.000 to get the nozzle today, said bullshit, I'm getting the 1522 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:45.800 nossele today. Well, we go to a caught fire. I 1523 01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:47.439 get out the rig and run to the back. I 1524 01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:50.880 got the the hose. He comes back, gives me an elbow, 1525 01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:55.479 loosens my teeth up. But I go down to the 1526 01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:59.199 ground and I'm like, shake it up. Now. The other 1527 01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.359 guys come out and all like trying to help me up, 1528 01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:04.840 and oh, John, what's going on? I said, Oh, my 1529 01:22:04.960 --> 01:22:10.640 tooth just loosen, losing to tooth. And civilian comes over 1530 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:13.239 and he goes, hey, guys, you think you could put 1531 01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:14.079 that car fire off? 1532 01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:18.479 I hope you beat his ass after that. Bro uh. 1533 01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:24.520 M hmm. I was all shaking up and I'm going 1534 01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:25.960 I don't know what to do. 1535 01:22:26.119 --> 01:22:27.920 Because the guy came over and said, you just got 1536 01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:29.079 knocked the funk out, son. 1537 01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:31.600 It couldn't have been an even fight, you know what 1538 01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:36.239 I mean? He was, so we kind of left it alone. 1539 01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:39.079 And then later on that day we had another little 1540 01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:41.880 fire and I got to the backstep and there was 1541 01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:45.000 no Dennis back and punched me this time. 1542 01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:48.359 Listen, no elbow. What happened to the Bronx and gentleman 1543 01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:48.840 bro What? 1544 01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:49.920 I don't. 1545 01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:54.079 Exceptions to every rule there are? 1546 01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:57.159 Which Bronx are you talking about? 1547 01:22:57.239 --> 01:22:59.720 Ah? 1548 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.079 No, you know we were gentlemen to the other companies. 1549 01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:09.000 Oh have your little in all right. One more incident 1550 01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:12.560 Vietnam VET. I had a guy in the fire house 1551 01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:15.479 and will not mention his name, but he's called me 1552 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:19.640 a baby coller and I said that bullshit. 1553 01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:20.920 Stop. 1554 01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:23.840 He said, oh, you're a Vietnam VN. You were baby killers. 1555 01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:27.479 He said. I said no more. He calls me again. 1556 01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:29.720 I said, you do that again. I want to beat 1557 01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:34.319 the balls off you. He did it, and after about 1558 01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.560 three shots, he's down on the ground and I got 1559 01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:38.840 two or three guys jumping on me trying to get 1560 01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:42.000 me off of him. They go wow, you went crazy, 1561 01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:45.439 I said, I told him, you warned them. Bro, that 1562 01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:49.359 phrase hits me hard. I said, because I was called 1563 01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:51.920 the baby killer in the airport going home, I'm not 1564 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:53.399 going to take it. 1565 01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:54.039 Good for you. 1566 01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:57.119 And since then we were good friends up until then, 1567 01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:58.239 and we still are good friends. 1568 01:23:58.279 --> 01:23:58.479 Now. 1569 01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:02.680 We got over the apology and I said, yeah, I'm 1570 01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:06.960 not apologizing for hitting. You deserved it, he says, yeah, 1571 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:09.079 I kind of. I kind of get where you were 1572 01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:09.800 coming from now. 1573 01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:12.520 I said, well, do you still go back there? 1574 01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:16.520 That was yeah, but you know I got mad and 1575 01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:18.840 that was the only time I actually lost my temper 1576 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:20.399 in twenty five years. 1577 01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:22.239 Do you still go back there at all? 1578 01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:23.239 Oh? 1579 01:24:23.279 --> 01:24:28.279 Yeah? We have Christmas ing uh December eleventh at the 1580 01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:31.279 in by the Thrives and neck Bridge. There's a thing, 1581 01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:34.239 and then they have the Christmas Party. And every summer 1582 01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:39.960 on September they have Long Beach Party on Pennsylvania Avenue 1583 01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.920 and on Long Beach on the beach and we get 1584 01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:46.840 about one hundred and fifty one hundred and seventy five guys. 1585 01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:48.520 You know, they go all the way back as. 1586 01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:51.880 Far as you can go Long Long Beach, Long Island. Yeah, Oh, 1587 01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:54.399 I look right, Yeah, yeah, you're on the beach. I 1588 01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:57.319 look right there. Well, i'll come on down. 1589 01:24:57.880 --> 01:24:58.520 I'll let you know. 1590 01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:00.960 Thank you. Well, I'm going to see you at the stupid. 1591 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:02.840 Day John John Rice goes there. 1592 01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:05.800 Oh does he? Oh? Yeah, the son of a gun. 1593 01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:08.760 Yeah, these things happened in your backyard. You don't know 1594 01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:09.319 what's going on. 1595 01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:11.159 John Rice will be coming on the show. 1596 01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:12.880 He'll be all about him. So I don't know. 1597 01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:16.279 He was a seventeen truck guide, right, He wasn't in 1598 01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:16.880 the engine. 1599 01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:19.279 No, no, he was one of the ponies. 1600 01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:21.279 Yeah, one of the pies. 1601 01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:22.239 But he did. 1602 01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:26.880 He did go to ninety one engine as a lieutenant. Yeah. 1603 01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:30.960 Well, what can I tell you? Yeah, good, good house. 1604 01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:32.560 I think we got him on. I don't know what 1605 01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:34.439 this is the twenty third of December. 1606 01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:37.479 John's Rice is a good guy. 1607 01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.560 Yeah, a little too tall for me. But he said 1608 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:42.079 the anything about you. I don't know what the fuck 1609 01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:42.840 he was talking about. 1610 01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:45.119 That. He's a he's a good guy. Good find me. 1611 01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:47.720 And I don't know how he was as a boss 1612 01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:51.199 because I never worked on him. I didn't only imagine 1613 01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:54.800 it would be good guys, so you can imagine good 1614 01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:56.039 guys and bad guys. 1615 01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:59.640 You know, Wait, which guys are, because sometimes the brothers say, oh, 1616 01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:01.399 he's such a good guy, a good guy, good guy, 1617 01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:03.279 But you're like, yeah, I don't know about that. What 1618 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:05.880 is your definition of a good guy? You know? 1619 01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:08.159 I was going to save that for what you say 1620 01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:09.640 to a new guy coming in. 1621 01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:13.239 Well, for your old school tip of the day. Yeah, 1622 01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:15.680 don't bring it up yet. We're not there yet, We're 1623 01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:20.840 almost there. Not yet. Favorite porch you ever worked with? 1624 01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:27.119 John favorite bors? Yeah, John Lennard. He came from Harlem, 1625 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:31.760 musician fifty nine and I believe yeah, right, And he 1626 01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:34.399 came over a little bit of a nut job. Well 1627 01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:38.439 you gotta be and good guy, really good guy in 1628 01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:43.600 short working and sometimes things would go a little astray 1629 01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:46.840 when he's working. We called it the Lenny factor, right, 1630 01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:51.600 And but he was a good guy to work with 1631 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:54.880 and fun, fun, fun guy to work with. And I'm 1632 01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:58.439 still in touch with him. He lived down he lives 1633 01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:00.520 up in Rockland, but he has a US down at 1634 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:04.239 South Florida, and uh, he invited me down a couple 1635 01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:06.000 of times. I gotta go see him down there sometime, 1636 01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:15.560 and uh, we go out on buildings and I did 1637 01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:19.960 a lot of my you know, shopping, I might say 1638 01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:22.800 when we were out on building for the house and 1639 01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:25.840 we were doing shopping one morning and the deputy calls 1640 01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:28.479 and give me a ten ten or whatever that thing was. 1641 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:30.840 Where are you because we're supposed to bet a building. 1642 01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:33.279 So he has all the cards, and it says and 1643 01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:36.239 he picks out a card and he tells this pressure 1644 01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:40.159 to tell the deputy where we are, and everyone in 1645 01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:41.000 the riggage. 1646 01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:45.159 No, not that rite, anyone but that one. 1647 01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:50.760 And it wound up being the whole first alarm with 1648 01:27:51.239 --> 01:27:55.359 uh where you worked has matt and a lot of 1649 01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:59.279 because it had more has mad ship in it, and 1650 01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:02.079 and goes, why would you give me this. 1651 01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:05.239 Because she was shopping? 1652 01:28:06.399 --> 01:28:09.319 Well, I didn't say were no, Oh my god, it 1653 01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:13.039 was everybody's gone. Thank god. I was a show outside, 1654 01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:15.880 going this is not good because more and more rigs 1655 01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:19.960 are coming, and rescue come and and uh and all 1656 01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:21.960 that other fake of forty. 1657 01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:26.239 One, oh, picking up a little friction. 1658 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:31.000 I love the old The guys are great, but then 1659 01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:36.680 when they became a squid, guys from Brooklyn and Manhattan, 1660 01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:41.640 the rescue wannabes would come, and you. 1661 01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:43.479 Know, it's all coming back to me now. Gods, because 1662 01:28:43.479 --> 01:28:45.359 when I would go to the Christmas parties. He would 1663 01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:50.359 say the same thing. Oh you're from squid ah uh. 1664 01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:54.680 You know that they all want to be rescue guys. 1665 01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.319 So they go into the squad to jump up to 1666 01:28:57.359 --> 01:28:58.159 be a rescue guy. 1667 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.479 See, I wanted to be I wanted to do work, 1668 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:02.760 and I still wanted to go to first two engine works. 1669 01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:04.079 So that's why I went there. 1670 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:08.159 I was, well, now that we've brought this up, I 1671 01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:10.279 don't know if I told you, but I was in 1672 01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:14.399 squad before that other incident. We go up by seventy 1673 01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:17.600 five engine and we're told to go above the fire 1674 01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:20.560 and certain. So I'm up there and I hear help me, 1675 01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:23.760 help me, help me. A little Spanish guy take the door, 1676 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.680 go in. It's a little biking and he's got his 1677 01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:29.479 hand on the mattress of the bed. He's got this 1678 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:32.600 little voice, help me alby, all right. So I pick 1679 01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:34.600 him up. I said, can you walk? Yeah, take him 1680 01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:37.159 out of the apartment. I rush him to the stairway. 1681 01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:39.359 I get him below the fire, I said, can you 1682 01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:42.760 walk you? See, I said, go downstairs. They got an 1683 01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:45.720 ambulance down, they get some oxygen. I go back up 1684 01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:48.960 there and searching again. Guy from forty one. Hey, you 1685 01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:51.439 made a grab, Paul Good, I said, I didn't make 1686 01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:56.399 you a grab. I made a removal. All of a sudden, 1687 01:29:56.439 --> 01:29:58.920 at the end of the job, the boss comes up 1688 01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:00.279 to me, I'm going to write you up, as said, 1689 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.159 what did I do? I thought I did something wrong. 1690 01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:05.560 He goes, no, you made a grab. I said, I 1691 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:09.039 made a removal. Don't write me up for nothing. He goes, no, 1692 01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:10.960 but I was told I said you were told wrong, 1693 01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:12.359 But he didn't write me up. 1694 01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:13.479 That's good frog. 1695 01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:16.920 You know, this is the second time I turned something 1696 01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:19.640 something good Vietnam. I turned down the Purple Heart. 1697 01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:21.680 All right, what do you mean you turned down of 1698 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:22.239 Purple Heart? 1699 01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:27.720 Because it was stupid. That's why I was too target right, 1700 01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:31.399 And we're getting shelled, and we're shelling out, but we're 1701 01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:33.960 running out of rounds, and the rounds come in a 1702 01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:37.439 box with metal bandits. We only have one band cutter, 1703 01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:41.159 so one guy's cutting, but we needed more. So I 1704 01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:43.439 grabbed an axe and I got the box between my 1705 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:46.119 legs and I'm hitting the bands and breaking them, taking 1706 01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:50.239 the rounds out and all that motor rounds. Well, just 1707 01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:53.920 as I'm swinging the axe, a round comes down and explodes. 1708 01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:57.439 I don't know close to me, but I didn't get 1709 01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:00.239 injured by it. But I was swinging the axe and 1710 01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:03.640 went right in my foot. Oh, it went in about 1711 01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:08.520 an inch into my side of my foot right now, medic. Medic, 1712 01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:11.000 I'm walking over to him, and he goes, why would 1713 01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:13.479 you put an axe in your foot? I said, asshole, 1714 01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:17.920 I didn't just put it in man, you know. So 1715 01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:22.159 I take my boot off and it's January of February, 1716 01:31:22.199 --> 01:31:25.279 which is the rainy season in Vietnam, and he wraps 1717 01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:28.199 my foot up so much I can't get the boot 1718 01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:31.239 back on and it's not but mud. So I said, well, 1719 01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:33.239 this ain't gonna work. I took it. So I took 1720 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:35.000 a lot of the bandage off and got my boot 1721 01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:38.159 on the best I could, and I was went back 1722 01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:41.399 to try to get some work done. So the lieutenant goes, 1723 01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:44.600 I see what happened. I said, yeah, you know, that 1724 01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:46.920 was kind of bad. He says, yeah, I seen it. 1725 01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:51.560 When the round hit you lost your axes and you 1726 01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:53.279 went right in your foot. I said, yeah, So I'm 1727 01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:56.760 going to put you in for purple heart. You'll get one. 1728 01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:00.640 I said, I'm going to get a purple heart for 1729 01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:03.640 putting an axe in my own foot. I said, I'm 1730 01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:06.159 going to tell guys who got shot up almost a leg? 1731 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:10.079 Oh what'd you do? I put an actione in my foot? Yeah, 1732 01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:16.000 stupid for you. Now now go back to go coming 1733 01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:19.479 fifty sixty years later, I said, oh shit, I wish 1734 01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:23.359 I took that purple off because in Jersey, or at 1735 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:27.079 least in my township, you got purple heart. You don't 1736 01:32:27.079 --> 01:32:28.840 pay any house, you know, property tax? 1737 01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:32.880 What, No, man, you should have taken that purple hot. 1738 01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:38.760 Bro that's ten thousand dollars. Hell yeah, so in it 1739 01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:41.640 this way, that's that's a story and a half. 1740 01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:45.159 But damn, John, let me ask you a question. Seeing 1741 01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.439 what you're sawing Vietnam, you feat that when you went 1742 01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:52.079 to the fire department, you're a little more uh, I 1743 01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:54.720 guess calm or prepared for what? 1744 01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:57.119 Yeah? Yeah? After? 1745 01:32:57.439 --> 01:32:59.079 What's going to rattle you? After Vietnam? 1746 01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:04.319 Yeah, wouldn't rather be I had snipe, but we killed 1747 01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:07.520 al barber on the wire. A guy would come in. 1748 01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:10.319 A lot of the Vietnamese would come on, you know, 1749 01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:13.560 any anywhere you were. They cut your hair, They do 1750 01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:15.800 this or do that for a couple of you know, 1751 01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:20.359 of the Disney money that they got out the Monopoly 1752 01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:23.159 Bundy looks like Monopoly Bundy over there though that the 1753 01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:26.720 US had, well, you know, you give us so many 1754 01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:29.800 a dollar in Vietnam, it's like a million dollars to them, right. Well, 1755 01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:31.880 a guy would come in and cut your hair for 1756 01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:36.439 the next like pennies. And one night we're getting income 1757 01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:40.479 and in the from the on the wire and we're 1758 01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:43.840 killing them and one of them was al Barba. Well 1759 01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:46.880 that's nice in the daytime and he's trying to kill 1760 01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:50.439 you at night. Should happened, you know, so you. 1761 01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:53.039 Were ready for anything you saw. The job was nothing 1762 01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:54.000 compared to what you saw. 1763 01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:54.359 Now. 1764 01:33:54.479 --> 01:34:00.760 Yeah, well you know, uh tell me that some bad luck. 1765 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:04.119 We lost guys in seventeen, but they we didn't lose 1766 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:06.720 the guy since the seventies. 1767 01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:08.439 Right right, and. 1768 01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:13.920 You know, well other than you know, uh not eleven. 1769 01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:18.479 But it was like, no, you know, everybody goes to 1770 01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:21.640 the fire. Some guys get hurt, but they you know, 1771 01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:24.079 nobody gets hurt to where they're gonna die. You know, 1772 01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:27.680 they might get an injury like this billy loss and 1773 01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:31.520 a freak accident. He's forcing the door and he twisted 1774 01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:35.119 his leg when he's forcing the door and he snapped 1775 01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:38.680 his bones in a couple of places and that was 1776 01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:41.079 the end of him. He never came out. And I'll 1777 01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:43.319 tell you what a great guy, this guy, Billy Losson 1778 01:34:43.479 --> 01:34:47.840 was great firemen. He had nineteen years and ten months 1779 01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:50.880 on the job. I was the commisar and you've got 1780 01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:54.640 twenty years. We get your ring. He wouldn't take the ring. 1781 01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:56.840 I didn't do twenty years. 1782 01:34:57.439 --> 01:34:59.640 God didn't we have him on the sholf Billy Lawson 1783 01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:00.800 save you might have? 1784 01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:04.800 Yes, yes, what guy right right five? Did you know 1785 01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:08.479 that after he did his fire duty he became a 1786 01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:09.600 nurse out Long Island? 1787 01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:13.319 Yes, I think I remember retire from that registered nurse. 1788 01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:20.079 But he was a short guy right like a little ye. 1789 01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:21.840 With me. 1790 01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:24.680 Yeah, Rice was telling me about how he would never 1791 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:27.159 wear a mask never ever. He had a little band 1792 01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:28.319 downery were once in a while. 1793 01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:31.520 He's in one of the pictures I gave you worried 1794 01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:38.079 at a fire smoking. Oh yeah, yeah, you go, that's 1795 01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:40.920 him right there. And I want to tell you something. 1796 01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:44.439 What a tough son of a bitch, right, tough. 1797 01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:50.800 Son of a bitch. And uh, yes, when my when 1798 01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:53.079 my son worked with me. But he wasn't working, but 1799 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:54.279 he went to the fire anyway. 1800 01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:58.880 All right, John, one more question here, best nozzle man you, 1801 01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:02.319 best nozzle man you've ever seen other than yourself? Can't 1802 01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:04.840 count yourself best nozzle man you've ever seen me? 1803 01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:13.479 No, that would be wow. Wow. I actually sold a 1804 01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.800 lot of guys if I you know, you have a 1805 01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:20.680 lot of good nozzlemen. Yeah, wow. I'll tell you what. 1806 01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:24.239 I'll reserve that for another day, because all right, I 1807 01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:27.079 don't want to just say oh him and then put 1808 01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:28.920 five other guys that were really good. 1809 01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:30.479 I put you on the spot, I know it. 1810 01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.920 Yeah, but there were a lot of good nozzlemen. Hell yeah, 1811 01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:39.319 a lot of good guys, A lot of guys. Sixty 1812 01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:43.079 engine had an abundance of good guys. No to admit 1813 01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:46.720 that seventeen truck was excellent toke, And don't you know, 1814 01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:49.880 I kid about the truck and I kid about you know, 1815 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:53.199 forty one does the job, you know even though this quids. 1816 01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:56.479 Were you there when they had a seventeen second section? 1817 01:36:57.279 --> 01:37:03.560 No, uh no not. That was just before I got there. 1818 01:37:04.119 --> 01:37:09.000 And we still had a couple of tours where they 1819 01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:13.199 would line up some other engines outside, right, you know, 1820 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:18.600 and you know because we were doing the work. But hey, 1821 01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:21.319 I rode the backstep when I first got there, which 1822 01:37:21.439 --> 01:37:27.680 was unbelievable. And they had John John John Mitchell. I 1823 01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:29.319 don't know if you heard of him. We called him 1824 01:37:29.359 --> 01:37:33.119 Hollywood because he got so many metals. But he's the 1825 01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:38.039 truck officer. And we're riding the backstep and one or 1826 01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:39.920 two of the guys you know, on the side because 1827 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:42.359 they want to see where we're going, and they're blocking 1828 01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:47.680 the tail lights and selled screaming at us. You can't 1829 01:37:47.720 --> 01:37:49.840 block the tail lights. We don't know when you're going 1830 01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:54.840 to stop, and we go, hey, look not to nothing, 1831 01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:56.680 but you know where we're going, so you know where 1832 01:37:56.720 --> 01:37:58.880 we're going to stop. You know we're not going to 1833 01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:02.800 go past the fire. Yeah, you stop at a hydrant? Yeah? 1834 01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:05.960 So who was that? Garrett? Guy? 1835 01:38:06.039 --> 01:38:13.880 Schneider is the father. You want a good one? 1836 01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:17.279 There you go. You asked for it, we got it. 1837 01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:20.960 We got on the screen. Then I'll give you Yah. 1838 01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:23.439 We had a couple of guys from seventeen too, and 1839 01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:25.119 I don't remember who the hell they were now, I 1840 01:38:25.159 --> 01:38:25.800 can't remember. 1841 01:38:27.399 --> 01:38:33.199 Yeah who, Yeah, on your show. 1842 01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:37.680 Of seventeen too? Was he seventeen two? Holy Ship with 1843 01:38:37.760 --> 01:38:39.800 two hundred and fifty shows in right, Mike, what do 1844 01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:43.439 we got thirty shows. 1845 01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:47.600 And you do it once a week? 1846 01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:49.840 How many weeks we were doing twice a week? We 1847 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:53.279 got to get back to twice a week. You know, 1848 01:38:53.319 --> 01:38:55.079 we get a guy like you that'll last for over 1849 01:38:55.119 --> 01:39:01.319 a week. John, you know we got a guy. No, yes, no, no. 1850 01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:03.800 It's easy to talk to you guys. 1851 01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:05.479 You know I've done hurt. 1852 01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:08.319 Don't you just tell me when it's wisdom time? 1853 01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:10.760 Is it wisdom time? Do you have any other thing 1854 01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:12.760 you want to share before we get to wisdom time? John? 1855 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:19.079 Uh, twenty five years goes like lightning if you start 1856 01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:23.720 on the job and all of a suddenly, oh real quick, Yeah, 1857 01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:30.319 I get hurt my last job, all right, And I 1858 01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:31.920 lost my lungs at the World Trade and I was 1859 01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:34.600 there for about four months, right, So I got bad lungs, 1860 01:39:34.960 --> 01:39:38.159 but I don't I keep going on the job. I 1861 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:42.079 don't tell anybody about my lungs. And I lost them 1862 01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:45.399 in oh one. But now I'm getting my operation at 1863 01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:49.560 the latter stage of four because I lost my shoulder. 1864 01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:54.000 So I get an operation in again, No. Four, and 1865 01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:57.000 I finally I have to go down to the medical 1866 01:39:57.039 --> 01:40:00.119 office because my shoulder bad. And I go down. Then 1867 01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:03.279 the doctor looks at my paperwork and he goes, hey, 1868 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:08.039 you haven't had medical in years. I said, that's bullshit. 1869 01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:11.960 It's in the medical you're missing it somehow, that's in it. 1870 01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:14.359 He said, bullshit, he says, go in the back. I 1871 01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:18.279 wanted to complete medical, so I know I'm gonna. 1872 01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:21.239 Pick it up. That's it. He's over. 1873 01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:26.399 I can't get past the first thing on the lot, 1874 01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:29.840 so they mark it down. I go back and he goes, 1875 01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:35.800 you're done. That's exactly what he said. You're done. 1876 01:40:35.960 --> 01:40:38.520 That's the worst part. Somebody tells you you're done. 1877 01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:43.840 He says, your lungs are gone. I said, really, I 1878 01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:49.359 was wondering why I could breathe. So anyway, that was 1879 01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:52.000 the end of my career. And now I knew I 1880 01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:55.359 wanted to do like four or five more years, but 1881 01:40:55.439 --> 01:41:00.399 I couldn't do it. But anyhow, I go on light 1882 01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:02.760 duty for a little bit, and I said, this is blody. 1883 01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:06.239 I went up put my papers in. I said, I 1884 01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:08.319 can't do five years of like duty. It's not going 1885 01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:10.000 to work. I said, that's what I'm done. 1886 01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:13.079 And that was the end of my career. 1887 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:18.199 If I didn't tear my shoulder, probably just four or 1888 01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:18.680 five years. 1889 01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:20.479 You gotta run around, you gotta you gotta hide from 1890 01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:22.359 the medical bro for the three years. 1891 01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:25.039 I had other guys. You know, I need a mutual, 1892 01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:27.800 I know, you know, medical was coming up. I need 1893 01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:28.920 a mutual and they to do it. 1894 01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.479 That's a great well they take care of the see 1895 01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:34.039 you man. That's the right thing, the right thing to do. 1896 01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:34.560 Bro. 1897 01:41:35.439 --> 01:41:37.880 All right, gons I think it is time now for 1898 01:41:38.359 --> 01:41:40.760 some words of wisdom from five more? 1899 01:41:41.479 --> 01:41:42.359 Is that is it that time? 1900 01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:42.800 Yes? 1901 01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:44.000 We get. 1902 01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:47.239 Hold on, hold on all right, I don't want to 1903 01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:50.520 get there you hold on you ready, premature, premature? 1904 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:52.039 Two seconds? 1905 01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:56.760 Sorry, all right, where we go. 1906 01:41:56.920 --> 01:41:58.479 I'm gonna hit the sound effects for you right now 1907 01:41:58.479 --> 01:41:59.960 and then we're gonna we're gonna bring you right in here. 1908 01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.399 Sorry, here we go. It's time for the old school 1909 01:42:04.520 --> 01:42:11.159 tips of the day, day day, and dr you. 1910 01:42:11.159 --> 01:42:14.000 Are my timp of the day is for the roby day. 1911 01:42:14.239 --> 01:42:19.159 Just comes in the firehouse first, Turk. When you get 1912 01:42:19.199 --> 01:42:24.600 to the firehouse, listen to all the senior men. Some 1913 01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:29.560 are really really great, some are not so great. It's 1914 01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:33.039 up to you to know find out the difference, because 1915 01:42:33.439 --> 01:42:36.319 who's who's the good guys and who's the not so 1916 01:42:36.479 --> 01:42:39.479 good guys. Take all the advice and the good guys, 1917 01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:43.000 and take the advice from the not so good guys 1918 01:42:43.399 --> 01:42:46.560 and take that with a grain of salt, or you judge. 1919 01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:51.840 But do great guys, everything they say is golden, and 1920 01:42:52.239 --> 01:42:55.680 remember it and do it for the next twenty years. 1921 01:42:56.199 --> 01:42:57.239 That's my tip of the day. 1922 01:42:58.079 --> 01:43:01.479 Thank you, John, excellent John. I never worked with you, 1923 01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:04.039 but you seem like a great senior man. I wish 1924 01:43:04.079 --> 01:43:05.520 I could have got a chance to work with you. 1925 01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:12.880 But I appreciate that. And once again, your own press. 1926 01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:17.640 It's my breast element they gave me. And when the 1927 01:43:18.119 --> 01:43:19.840 said goddamn bread. 1928 01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:22.880 Ah, all right, we got to do a couple of 1929 01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:25.000 quick commercials guns. What do you got? Oh? 1930 01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:27.800 Only thing we have is uh health and safety tip. 1931 01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:28.439 That's it. 1932 01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:31.159 That's it. We have the two play it. 1933 01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:32.039 Here we go. 1934 01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:35.439 The First Responder Center for Excellence is a not for 1935 01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:39.039 profit organization dedicated to protecting their lives and livelihoods of 1936 01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:42.760 first responders. Their education and research initiatives aim to bring 1937 01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:46.960 greater awareness and understanding the challenges to the health, safety, 1938 01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:50.279 and well being of firefighters, EMS, personnel, and other first 1939 01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:53.439 responders too. They are an affiliate of the National Falling 1940 01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:54.880 Firefighter Foundation. 1941 01:43:56.319 --> 01:43:58.680 Alright, I got two health and safety tips tonight. The 1942 01:43:58.760 --> 01:44:03.600 first one is try not try not to avoid your 1943 01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:10.199 medical for years and years in here. No avoid early 1944 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:12.880 detection is the key. The second ding you're going to 1945 01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:15.600 bring up with Thanksgiving approaching and all that comes with 1946 01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:18.439 the gluttony and the drinking. Everything everything in moderation. That 1947 01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:23.880 includes exercise, that includes drinking, that includes eating everything in moderation. 1948 01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:28.520 That's what I got, John, great career. I'm glad I 1949 01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:30.359 get to know you a little bit better tonight. Uh 1950 01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:33.640 just from the Stuben Day I got to say too. 1951 01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:35.720 John was the one who recruited me in Provy School 1952 01:44:36.640 --> 01:44:39.880 to join the Stuben Society. And I loved every year 1953 01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:43.319 that he broke my balls about being a squid, even 1954 01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:46.279 though he doesn't remember. And I will see him at 1955 01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:48.439 the Stuben Day Christmas party with my brother. I just 1956 01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:49.279 put it on the calendar. 1957 01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:54.000 Excellent, good, good, Yep, we will see that. Enjoy it, guys. 1958 01:44:54.319 --> 01:44:56.640 I want to thank you. Guys. You were great for me, 1959 01:44:57.399 --> 01:45:01.119 and you know I have a great holiday season. 1960 01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:02.359 Yeah, John, thanks man. 1961 01:45:02.439 --> 01:45:05.319 You stay safe when you become a fineming young man. 1962 01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:10.000 Yeah, thanks excellent, Mike, Thanks for you going. It goes 1963 01:45:10.119 --> 01:45:14.319 quick like that, Mike. Thanks for filling in for Roofie tonight, 1964 01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:17.319 probs coming in even though he's under the weather a 1965 01:45:17.359 --> 01:45:20.600 little bit. I appreciate that. So good. You got a 1966 01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:21.439 stuff at that moment? 1967 01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:21.680 Is that? 1968 01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:22.960 Man? 1969 01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:24.840 It's like right there, I'm my God, right at the 1970 01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:26.560 end of the show. Now it's gonna still give me trouble. 1971 01:45:27.039 --> 01:45:29.760 All right, we are back. I think next what is 1972 01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:33.119 it next Monday? Next Monday? I think we got Deputy 1973 01:45:33.239 --> 01:45:37.520 Chief Di Dominico coming on. Yeah, I know him. Yep. 1974 01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:42.079 And have a great Thanksgiving fellas. Oh before I forget man, 1975 01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:44.720 oh man, look at this what I got today from 1976 01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:49.520 my buddy Paul Hanshagan. It's his next book called Rescue Squad, 1977 01:45:49.560 --> 01:45:51.800 The Origins of Rescue One Fire Department, the City of 1978 01:45:51.840 --> 01:45:54.880 New York, nineteen fifteenth and nineteen twenty five. It is 1979 01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:57.840 available right now. We will be carrying it on the 1980 01:45:57.880 --> 01:46:01.520 website for Christmas. Uh. It's a great, great book. It 1981 01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:05.479 goes along with this one hundred Years of Valor. Yes, missus, Foley, 1982 01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:08.600 we love you too, Love you dad. Awesome. Johnny did 1983 01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:12.039 a great job with your kids. It shows with the 1984 01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:14.520 fire department, with being your senior man and everything involved. 1985 01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:18.560 Don't forget to watch a cup of Joe and Tim 1986 01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:22.239 Fuego send it into Coops podcast at youmail dot com. 1987 01:46:22.319 --> 01:46:24.920 And started a new segment also. It's called the what 1988 01:46:25.119 --> 01:46:28.840 is it? Mike the Unforgotten Heroes. I'm gonna go back 1989 01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:31.680 and I'm gonna go over every single line of duty 1990 01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:34.439 death back from eighteen sixties until present. 1991 01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:35.199 Wow. 1992 01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:38.680 So catch that out, you know, like that and again John, 1993 01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:42.239 hang around for the post show. And we appreciate you 1994 01:46:42.319 --> 01:46:45.640 coming on a great career, great mustache. Thank you for 1995 01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:49.159 your service both in the fire department and protecting this country. 1996 01:46:49.640 --> 01:46:52.199 And all those people say baby killer fuck, then they 1997 01:46:52.239 --> 01:46:53.600 have no idea what they're talking about. 1998 01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:59.239 Amen, Thank you, appreciate it. Yep, stay safe to you guys. Care. 1999 01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:04.079 Oh, Mike got two shout outs. We have a lot 2000 01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:07.560 of duty death. I'm sorry, Yes, that's what we're here. God, 2001 01:47:07.720 --> 01:47:08.000 thank you. 2002 01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:12.239 You want to do yours first? You want to do Mikey's. 2003 01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:14.880 Let's do os first, okay, and then Mike you can 2004 01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:15.119 do his. 2005 01:47:15.359 --> 01:47:17.720 I was gonna bring this little image up here that 2006 01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:18.000 we have. 2007 01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:22.560 Yes, last night, Wednesday, November twentieth, Chief of the third Battalion, 2008 01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:26.079 John Walsh lost his life while in command of a 2009 01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:30.720 fire in Wilkinsburg District. Chief Falls was sixty years old 2010 01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:34.079 and a thirty seven year member of the Pittsburgh Bureau 2011 01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:37.399 of Fire. Please transmit the five five five five. We 2012 01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:51.560 will rest in peace. Brother, rest in peace. Sorry about that, 2013 01:47:51.680 --> 01:47:54.520 Johnny Albanize, We got it done, all right, Mike ed 2014 01:47:55.079 --> 01:47:55.399 All right. 2015 01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:57.479 Let me just share the screen real quick. I want 2016 01:47:57.520 --> 01:47:59.199 to give a shout out to some of my colleagues here. 2017 01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:01.920 So if you can see my arrow from left to right, 2018 01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:05.439 this is Christy Crescenzo, Nick Amandola, Bryan Sweeney, and Joji Aquino. 2019 01:48:06.039 --> 01:48:08.640 Congratulations to aw for these gentlemen. They were just promoted 2020 01:48:08.680 --> 01:48:10.960 this past Friday and the ceremony the rank of lieutenant. 2021 01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:13.119 Uh So, Chris will be on a lieutenant on our 2022 01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:15.079 D shift, Nick on the B shift, Brian on the 2023 01:48:15.119 --> 01:48:17.520 A shift, and Joe G as we affectionately call him, 2024 01:48:17.520 --> 01:48:19.239 on the C shift. They worked hard, they passed their 2025 01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:21.560 written exam and look forward to seeing those gentlemen in 2026 01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:23.640 those next chapters as fire officers. 2027 01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:26.000 So congratulations for I still be telling you. Hold on 2028 01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:27.880 to my coat, young Michael, follow me. 2029 01:48:28.399 --> 01:48:31.960 Hold this. You'll be doing the introduction. I'm I'm Michael, 2030 01:48:32.039 --> 01:48:33.399 and I'll be saying I'm sorry. 2031 01:48:35.239 --> 01:48:37.840 All right, guys, Thank you, Happy guys. I love you, guys. 2032 01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:40.039 You guys are the best. Man as always, off fans 2033 01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:45.159 are the best. Be safe, remember everything in moderation. Watch 2034 01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:47.640 some football, eat some food, and take a big. 2035 01:48:49.199 --> 01:48:49.760 Watch the Giants. 2036 01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:53.199 All right, guys, until next week. You know what I 2037 01:48:53.199 --> 01:48:54.399 always say, stay low. 2038 01:48:54.319 --> 01:48:59.640 And go go ahead, Mike, but you got off, you 2039 01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:00.560 do Off. 2040 01:49:00.840 --> 01:49:02.520 Hurts signed off ahead. 2041 01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:04.319 No, No, I'm gonna give a little shout to uh 2042 01:49:04.520 --> 01:49:07.399 to Ronzi tonight. The Knob is the job, baby, you know. 2043 01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:13.119 On behalf of Kob's Gonzo John Roar and all of 2044 01:49:13.159 --> 01:49:15.560 you on my colonne. We'll see you next time. Be advised, 2045 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.560 tones are dropping. Transmit the seventy three. 2046 01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:22.239 Good night, Happy Thanksgiving, your boise