WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:06.280 What is up everybody, Corey Hughes Bloody History coming back 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.240 at you with more of the David Ferry file, file 3 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:16.320 number three according to the documents. So let me see, 4 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:18.120 we got about one hundred pages to go. It'll probably 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:19.920 take two or three more days to wrap this up. 6 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:24.920 Besides this file, there is Once we get done with this, 7 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:28.600 we'll have completed all four hundred plus pages. The beginning 8 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:30.480 of this I did like two years ago, so you 9 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:32.200 have to go back through the old episodes to find 10 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:35.079 the beginning of this file. I'm surprised it took me 11 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:36.960 so long to get around to wrapping this thing up, 12 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:39.880 considering David Ferry is like one of my primary focuses. 13 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.799 So there's another file. It's about three hundred and fifty pages. 14 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:49.320 We'll cover that. We might just do it next and 15 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:51.520 knock it out. I don't know. I'll dig it up. 16 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:56.159 I don't know how much overlap there is. There might 17 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.439 be some duplication between the two files. It's not a 18 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:00.840 completely separate file. It has a lot of stuff in it, 19 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:06.040 minus a lot of the Eastern Airlines stuff. So I'll 20 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:07.920 dig that up and we'll get to that after this, 21 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.040 maybe not immediately. I'll maybe I'll find something else to 22 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:12.439 jump into. I kind of just picked these based on 23 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:15.159 whatever I'm interested in that day, because remember this podcast 24 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.719 is me researching and you researching along with me, right, 25 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:24.200 So today we're going to pick up where we left off. 26 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:27.760 We have a memorandum here. I don't know if we're 27 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:31.079 done with the Eastern Airlines documentation. We might be, we 28 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.079 might not be. I'm not sure, but all this stuff 29 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:39.879 really revolves around that era. So here we go. Memorandum 30 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:44.359 April nineteenth, nineteen sixty seven to Jim Garrison from Andrew Sciambra, 31 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.280 Assistant District Attorney. He was an employee of Garrison Reference 32 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:54.319 Special Investigation. Al Landry interview with I talked with A. 33 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.319 Landry at the New Orleans Athletic Club in the presence 34 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.200 of Beau le Moyne, Perry Russo, Jim Alcock, Charlie Ward, 35 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:05.120 and Lou Ivan, and it says in parentheses, this was 36 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.240 during your visit to Las Vegas. Al Landry told me 37 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:13.039 that he first met David Ferry in nineteen sixty. He 38 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:15.360 said that he was in the Cap in fifty nine 39 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:17.199 and sixty and that at the time he was around 40 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:20.280 fifteen years old. Landry said that Ferry was second in 41 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.360 command in the cap and then a man named Morrell 42 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:26.960 was in command. M R R. E LLL. Ferry at 43 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:30.280 that time lived at the three point thirty one Atherton Drive, Metorie, 44 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:34.840 Louisiana address. Landry stated that his mother also lived in 45 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:40.360 the house. That's interesting. This is really the first time 46 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:46.199 I'm realizing this. M. Landry said that Leyton Martins used 47 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:48.479 to stay there for two and three months at a time. 48 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:51.639 Landry said to some of the people in the squadron 49 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:56.280 at the time were Droe Pettini, Joe Howard, Carl Costa, 50 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:02.680 Scott Sainz, Donnie Richards, Butch, marsh Al Sharem, Mike Cruschet, 51 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:08.199 Johnny Espinnin Price, somebody named Price no first name lighton Martin's, 52 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.199 Jim Landry, whose father was a mechanic for Eastern Airlines, 53 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.960 Johnny Johnston, and Rodney Williams. So Jim and Al Landry 54 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.280 are not related, now that we've got that clarified. Landry 55 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:23.080 said that Ferry has hypnotized him twice and that he 56 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.319 can remember. He also said that Ferry never did take 57 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:27.599 him out of the country, but he did leave home 58 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:33.680 of his own accord around nineteen sixty. Landry said he 59 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:36.120 met Ferry in the Balter building when he came back 60 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.439 in from out of town. Landry said he went into 61 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:41.080 the service in sixty two and was in the service 62 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.840 until well after the assassination. He says he knows Arcacha, 63 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:49.080 but does not know Julian Buzznado. That's from Andrews Scamber. 64 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.719 All right. Next page looks like a photocopy of a 65 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.479 couple pages from a notebook. He's the spiral thing in 66 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:59.080 the middle. It's got a bunch of dates and numbers here. 67 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:09.240 I'm not sure exactly what these are. Maybe coordinates, I'm 68 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:14.159 not sure. Maybe it's a photocopy from David Faerriy's book. 69 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:19.160 All right. Next is a page with it's got a 70 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.399 list of names and then it's got total class dates 71 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:26.720 and something. It kind of almost looks like a like 72 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:30.360 a military roster document. I'm looking at the names here, 73 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.560 I don't really see anything. See any that jump out 74 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:38.639 as relevant to the investigation. Kenneth arch and Skipper, Allen Gerald, Orio, 75 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:44.959 Frank Ben Foddy, Tom Baker, Bob Baker, Carlos Bertat, Jeremy Brown, 76 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:52.639 Brian Birch, Bobby Carbahaal Willhelm, colmbe, Charles Coolan, Neil Couvian, 77 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:57.360 and James Kuran. Got a couple more as I scrolled down, 78 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:02.920 Philip Dio, Grassius, Darvin, decant Or, d E. S c 79 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:08.800 A n T, Keith Dufour, Cyril DuPont, Richard Dus, d 80 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:13.800 u E S s E Jesse, Estapa, Charlie. I can't read. 81 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:16.800 The last name begins with an F E FOA set 82 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:20.399 f E w A s E T. Maybe Howard, Philby, 83 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:28.480 John Flynn, Johnny Freelich, Don Fletterich, Tim George, Charles, George George, George, Harvey, Gustafsson, 84 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:36.199 Spinando frayn Uh Coral Curls, Porsche, somebody else Porsche. Can't 85 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.759 read that somebody named best. All right, So we got 86 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.480 page upon page of these names. I'm not gonna none 87 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:49.680 of them jump out as to me as significant, so 88 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:54.480 I will continue on. There's really there's not even a 89 00:05:54.519 --> 00:06:01.639 notation of what this is. There's a number here at 90 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:05.040 the bottom with in parentheses Loyola. I don't know what 91 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:07.480 that's referring to. I don't think this is a school roster. 92 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:13.519 There's some kind of class something, because it hasn't everyone 93 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:18.079 passed with an S like satisfactory and a date. Yeah, 94 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:23.040 I don't know what the fuck this is. It must 95 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.839 be something related to David Ferry, because it's surrounded by 96 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:32.959 pages of hand notes, handwritten notes in a spiral notebook. 97 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:40.240 The notes are pretty erratic. Here it looks like it 98 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.639 has some drawing, some rectangles with a bunch of circles 99 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:46.040 in and then it has some math. He was doing 100 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.560 some math on this page, and then some miscellaneous names 101 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:50.959 and stuff written over it like it's all really just 102 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.240 a bunch of scribbles. Who knows what the hell any 103 00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:00.920 of this means. There's nothing really cohesive about it. Then 104 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:07.959 here we have another list list of what I don't know, 105 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:11.120 and then he says written on it says I make 106 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.720 my own flight school. And then it says where underlined, 107 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.839 So he's writing out some kind of plans last week champion, 108 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:22.800 and then champion is underlined. Beneath that it says offense 109 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:28.000 with a question mark in which parish did you am 110 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:34.000 appear before the judge? That's written there with a question mark. 111 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:41.519 A notation in the column says red light school speeding. 112 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:48.360 I don't know what that means. Next page has there's 113 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.399 a notation here Oswald and the and the numbers twelve 114 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:58.600 dash three and the twelve dash three is circled. And 115 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.560 this looks like a drawing. It almost looks like what 116 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:03.680 it would look like if you were like in an amphitheater. 117 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:08.240 He's got a bunch of circles like probably indicating people, 118 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:10.399 and a bunch of long rectangles which kind of look 119 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:13.759 like benches set up before this stage. I can't really 120 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:15.560 tell which way is the top because he's got stuff 121 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:24.079 written from every angle here. Let me zoom out on 122 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:34.360 this thing if I can. Yeah, I'm gonna screenshot this 123 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:38.240 and post this on X so everyone can take a 124 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:42.000 look at it. I don't know what the hell it 125 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:54.279 is all about, all right, continuing on more lists, This 126 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:55.840 looks like a phone book. This part here looks like 127 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:57.960 a phone book. Doesn't have any phone numbers. Got a 128 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.039 bunch of names. It's got fo Cell and Frederick O'Sullivan. 129 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:03.480 So he was a masad guy who actually was a 130 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:08.240 cop in New Orleans who was involved with Oswald and 131 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.600 Civil Air Patrol all the way back in fifty five. 132 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.879 But this handwriting here is really really fucking neat. I 133 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:17.639 just don't buy that. This is fucking I just don't 134 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.120 buy that This could be fairies handwriting. It's so fucking neat. 135 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:25.919 Next thing down looks like a telegram or some kind 136 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:30.200 of letter sent. Heading is Phil Lynch Aircraft Sales Inc. 137 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:36.759 Sold to mister Marlos Merdia and Merda in Metairie, Louisiana. 138 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.919 Looks like a sale of an aircraft for services rendered. 139 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.000 Oh as for a service receipt for services rendered on 140 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.360 three two five one y. Also the return of any 141 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:51.279 tools instruments, brand new nosewheel tire Sesna one seven to 142 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:55.759 two spinner and raincoat payment pass due one hundred and 143 00:09:55.799 --> 00:10:02.960 fifty dollars. That's photocopied and in there. M M all right, 144 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:04.879 So now we seem to be back to Eastern Airlines. 145 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:07.159 Eastern Airlines, let me see how many pages this goes through? 146 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:16.759 This here is all right? So we got like six 147 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:26.000 seven pages on the summary. The finality I believe of 148 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.919 the evidence against David Ferry as per Eastern Airlines. I 149 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.879 do not believe we've read this. This does not look 150 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:36.639 like a duplicate. It's very clean. It doesn't look like 151 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:40.399 anything that I've seen before. But as I'm reading it, 152 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:42.879 if I get some deja vus, I will let you 153 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.159 know and we can skip it. But I don't think 154 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:46.799 that's going to be the case. So this is a 155 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.759 chronology of events. Brief of Eastern Airlines, Inc. On grievance 156 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:56.080 of David Ferry. Chronology of events. On August twenty sixth, 157 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:58.360 nineteen sixty one, the company learned through an article in 158 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:00.879 the New Orleans Times Picky Union at Ferry had been 159 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.120 arrested on charges of committing a crime against nature and 160 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.879 in decent acts of juvenile boys. On August twenty ninth, 161 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:08.679 after unsuccessful attempts to contact Ferry, the company suspended in 162 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.039 for an indefinite period until such time as the charges 163 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:15.320 against Ferry are cleared. There followed a series of attempts 164 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:17.639 by the company to obtain some explanation from Ferry in 165 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:21.600 regards to those charges. Finally, on October nineteenth, nineteen sixty one, 166 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:25.360 Ferry sent a letter to Captain Griner based on reports 167 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:29.360 of reputable detectives. In quotes, the letter stated that quote 168 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.639 my problem has been traced with certainty to a highly 169 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.399 placed local official. We have positive evidence that this official 170 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.240 is a communist and has been in charge of some 171 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:42.360 highly important communistic activities involving the protection of communists in 172 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:48.320 the area. Fairry's status with Eastern was finalized in Captain 173 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.240 Griner's letter of September sixth, nineteen sixty one, to the 174 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.679 effect that quote, the company will be willing to continue 175 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:56.960 you on your present status until such time as final 176 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:00.399 determinations of these charges can be made, the time a 177 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:02.960 final decision as to your future employment at Eastern will 178 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:07.440 be made. Some eleven criminal charges were eventually brought against Ferry. 179 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.919 By letter of January eighth, nineteen sixty three, received by Eastern. 180 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.000 On January tenth, nineteen sixty three, mister Gill informed the 181 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.360 company that the last of the criminal charges against Ferry 182 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:21.720 had been null prost. Although no prosequi is a technical term, 183 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.480 does not finally dispose of a charge, since it can 184 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.440 be refiled without prejudice, and even though the action was 185 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.679 not final as contemplated in the Grinder letter, the company 186 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:34.759 elected to treat the criminal case as finalized and to 187 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:38.639 proceed with its investigation. In parentheses, it says the effect 188 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:42.120 of the noll prosequi will be discussed further in a 189 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:46.960 later portion of the brief. Ferry, by letter of January tenth, 190 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:49.399 nineteen sixty three, was directed to report to the office 191 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:54.519 of Captain Stone on January seventeenth, to discuss the improprieties 192 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.879 which led to your suspension and to determine what future 193 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:02.320 action the company will take in your case. All right, 194 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:06.919 so let's let's pause for a second. January tenth, nineteen 195 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:10.320 sixty three. Where are we at with the assassination January tenth, 196 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.759 nineteen sixty three. Well, by my calculations, it is around 197 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:16.679 this time, perhaps even late sixty two. I mean, the 198 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.120 sentiment had been brewing. The rumblings I'm sure had been brewing, 199 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:25.720 you know, for a long time, but I believe things 200 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:30.440 became concrete. You know. I read an article on Perman 201 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:34.000 dex and somebody, the person who wrote this article attributed 202 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.960 the beginning of the plot to the Spring meeting of 203 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.240 permandex A. Now, the problem I have with that is 204 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:46.080 that Spring starts when March twentieth, give or take. Oswald 205 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:49.919 had already ordered the rifle by the time Spring rolled around, 206 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.360 and so that's kind of out right. It could not 207 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:56.679 have been determined that late. It had to have been 208 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.879 set up prior to the ordering of the rifle. The 209 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.960 ordering of the rifle is the very first step in 210 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:08.480 the setup. What else was going on at that time. 211 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:12.360 You've got the Walker meeting, and you've got or well, 212 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:15.440 the Walker meeting with Jerry Hemming and Lauren Hall, which 213 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:20.600 happened in March also, right, that happened like the twenty third, 214 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.000 twenty second of March something like that. It was towards 215 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:26.399 the end of March. And then you had just a 216 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:29.200 couple of weeks later the Walker shooting on April tenth. 217 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.799 So all this is brewing. So where's the assassination at 218 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:36.080 January tenth? When this when ferries going through all this 219 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:39.639 shit with Eastern airlines. Well, this has to be around 220 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:45.240 the time that the plot was underway, right, It had 221 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:49.399 to have been starting to filter down. It had to 222 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:55.639 have been in a most certainly a pre planning phase. 223 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:59.679 People were being they were probably analyzing the people they 224 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:06.639 had in place. You know, Clay Shaw, the obvious guy, 225 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:18.240 the direct link to Permandex, centrimondiout, commercial, commercial, schlumberget who else? 226 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:24.120 The mafia right, like all that stuff. So yes, do 227 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.840 I think that Permandex was directly involved in the pre planning? 228 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:32.360 One hundred percent, without question, without question. Now it just 229 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:36.360 comes down to timing. When did they meet or when 230 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.000 did they internally? Obviously it's not going to be paperwork 231 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:40.679 on it. It's not going to be the fact that 232 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:42.360 we even know that there was a meeting of the 233 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:46.720 board in uh spring of sixty three is amazing, right, 234 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:54.399 So it had to the plan, the actual planning itself, 235 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.360 the discussion and the decision making and the implementation of 236 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:02.159 action had to have started around this time, a time 237 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.960 prior to Faery being brought into the loop, right, So 238 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:09.919 they're doing that and he still has this going on, 239 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:15.360 and there Fairy has not been brought into the larger 240 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.440 plot as of yet. Now that big brings us to 241 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.960 a bigger question, when does Ferry get brought into the plot? 242 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.639 He's obviously directly brought into it by clay Shaw clearly 243 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:34.080 h duh, right, And so when does that occur? That 244 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.279 is just something I'm throwing out there for everybody to 245 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:39.600 keep track of if we can determine when that occurred 246 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:45.039 at some point, So let me continue. Ferry, by letter 247 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.840 of January tenth, nineteen sixty three, was directed to report 248 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:51.559 to the Office of Captain Stone on January seventeenth to 249 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:54.840 discuss the improprieties which led to your suspension and to 250 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.039 determine what future action the company will take in your 251 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:01.360 case and quote. This meeting was delayed at Ferry's request, 252 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:05.079 and instead of attending the meeting on January seventeenth, he 253 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:09.759 filed Grievance fifteen sixty three. On that date. The grievance 254 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:13.119 alleged that Eastern violated fairies' rights by not restoring him 255 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:16.119 to flight status as of January ninth, nineteen sixty three. 256 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:19.240 It should be noted that the company's action suspending Ferry 257 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.519 in nineteen sixty one was never grieved. Thus, all the 258 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.240 pending grievances relate only to the action taken by the 259 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.359 company after January ninth, nineteen sixty three, as requested by 260 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.599 the Board. All pending grievances will be covered in this brief. 261 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.799 The second date established for the Miami meeting was January 262 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.160 twenty eighth, nineteen sixty three. This date was again postponed 263 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:47.160 at the request of Ferry or his representative, and the 264 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:51.759 first step hearing in Grievance's fifteen sixty three. It was 265 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:56.039 also postponed by the agreement. On February eighteenth, nineteen sixty three. 266 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:58.799 Grievance twenty nine sixty three was filed by Ferry, alleging 267 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.880 a refusal to quote air original grievance in accordance with 268 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:06.039 Section thirty, refusal to provide quote pilot with written specifications 269 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.920 of reason why he's being held out of service, an 270 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.839 attempt to compel grievance to give testimony prior to any 271 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:16.119 scheduled hearing, and quote otherwise preventing him from exercising any 272 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.519 of his contractual rights or complying with a company request 273 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:24.079 for quote informal hearing. Finally, on February eighteenth, nineteen sixty three, 274 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.279 the meeting was held in Miami. At that meeting, Fairy 275 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.799 positively refused to answer any questions concerning the criminal charges 276 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:32.960 which had been brought against him or any other matter 277 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:35.720 that had come to the attention of the company. Ferry 278 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:38.880 was specifically directed to answer these questions and was carefully 279 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:42.799 warned that refusal to answer would be considered grounds for 280 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:49.880 disciplinary action. On March first, sixty three, by letter of 281 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:53.759 from F. A. Stone, Vice President Flight Operations, Ferry was 282 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:56.880 discharged on that same date. The first step hearing in 283 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:00.400 Grievance fifteen sixty three was rescheduled for March eighth, nineteen 284 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:05.720 sixty three. On March eleventh, nineteen sixty three, same week 285 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:10.160 the rifle is allegedly ordered. Ferry filed Grievance forty eight 286 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:14.599 Dashed sixty three, which pertained Here's a question, was Carrie 287 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.640 Thornley involved in the managing of the PO box that 288 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:21.279 the rifle and stuff was sent to, because we don't 289 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:23.240 have any evidence that Oswald ever had any contact with 290 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:26.160 that PO box. In particular, there was another PO box 291 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:28.920 that Oswald is documented his having, I believe, in a 292 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:35.559 totally different building. So was Carrie Thornley managing the ordering 293 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:45.119 of the rifle around this time? And how close was 294 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:50.240 he to David Ferry at this time? We know he 295 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:52.839 had already been to David Ferry's house by the summer 296 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.920 of sixty two. He wrote that in his Affidavid confession letter. 297 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.559 And so here we get into March of nineteen sixty three. 298 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:08.799 The rifle plot is complete. It hasn't been ordered yet, 299 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:12.640 No it hasn't, but that's coming right, And so the 300 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:17.680 plot is well underway at this point. And oom, you 301 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:21.480 know fuck that I had already concluded that, like Shaw 302 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.839 and Thornley and Ferry, Ferry was the most subservient of 303 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:29.000 all of them. If there was a hierarchy, Kerry Thornley 304 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:35.960 clearly seemed to have a different line back to cia 305 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:42.119 and and his handlers. I'd say he had a different 306 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:46.240 chain than clay Shaw did than Ferry did. Right. So 307 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:49.400 if if and this is only a big if, we 308 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:54.240 don't know this, If Carrie Thornley was the one who 309 00:20:55.079 --> 00:21:04.720 ordered the rifle, possibly using Marina to forge stuff, because 310 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:08.240 we know she did, it's how much stuff did she forge? 311 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:13.480 The question? Then if he was doing that in March 312 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:17.599 of sixty three, how much of that was David Ferry? 313 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:21.759 Even in on right, David Ferry might not have been 314 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:24.079 in on any of it. He might not have known 315 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.599 any of that stuff unless it was discussed separately. But 316 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:28.599 that seems like it would have been a compartmentalized operation, 317 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:34.000 separate from the shooting itself, right, separate from Tippett and 318 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:38.119 all that stuff. You know, one thing that just jumped 319 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:41.000 into my mind a couple of weeks ago that's been 320 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:43.079 kind of pinging around ever since, is that in that 321 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:46.599 Carrie Thornley letter to Jim Garrison, the fifty page aff 322 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:51.200 of David there's one part that he writes that he 323 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.599 who was it was it that or was this information 324 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:56.400 might have come from him, or it might have come 325 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.960 from somebody he spoke to, maybe broch Well, it came 326 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.839 from somebody somewhere in that area. But it said that 327 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:08.880 Carrie Thornley said that he had to do two things 328 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:13.240 for the company, which is cia we're assuming of duh. 329 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:15.920 And he said he had to show that he could 330 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.599 sleep with a man and that he could kill somebody, 331 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:20.880 and that he had proven that he could do both. 332 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.880 That's in there somewhere. It's either in the Brocheers stuff 333 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.119 or in the Yeah, probably isn't in the Kerry Thorny 334 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.720 main file or the letter to Garrison. It's probably in 335 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:34.240 the Brochier stuff. But I remember that and it just 336 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:37.720 jumped off the page for me, And so I think 337 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.200 that's pretty interesting that he would say that. And who 338 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:41.759 was the person that he would have killed? He didn't 339 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.519 kill anybody when he was in the military. Who was 340 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:47.039 that person he would have killed that he would have 341 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:53.400 talked to Brochiers about years later? JD. Tippett. JD. Tippett, 342 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:59.920 And who was the guy he slept with? Broch Ears right, So, yeah, 343 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:02.359 that was my little tangent for today. Let me continue 344 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:06.279 on on March first, sixty three. I already read that part. 345 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:09.839 On March eleventh, sixty three, Fairy filed grievance forty eight 346 00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:13.039 sixty three which pertained his discharge. Ferry was then provided 347 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.920 with a more extensive breakdown of the items relied upon 348 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:20.880 in discharging him review of evidence on behalf of the company. 349 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.359 The Board, in considering this case should keep in mind 350 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:27.160 the fact that the main energies of the grievance were 351 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.519 devoted to the suppression of the pertinent facts about his behavior. 352 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.640 The hearing was probably the most technical in the long 353 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.200 history of arbitrations under the Railway Labor Act, insofar as 354 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:40.720 objections and rulings and proffered evidence time and time again, 355 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:44.400 evidence was excluded which would normally be received. As a 356 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:47.680 matter of course, the grievance efforts to suppress evidence and 357 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.000 keep the board in the dark as to his activities 358 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.960 were so successful that probably the majority of the company's 359 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.000 evidence was excluded. However, in the long run, the efforts 360 00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.920 of the grievance were unavailing for even the minor portion 361 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.720 of the company's case which has succeeded in getting before 362 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.319 the Board proved conclusively that these charges brought by the 363 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.440 company were true, and that the company's actions were justified. 364 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:14.920 Sergeant Fourtya, the New Orleans police officer who conducted a 365 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:17.720 major portion of the investigation that led to the filing 366 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:23.000 of the eleven criminal charges, testified extensively concerning that investigation. 367 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:27.799 His testimony showed a normal, conscientious police investigation which started 368 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.839 with a routine investigation of the report that juvenile Alexander 369 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:34.400 Landry had run away from home. The only non routine 370 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.480 aspect of the investigation was the fact that at every 371 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.880 step of the police investigation of the runaway juvenile, evidence 372 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.440 of the criminal activities on the part of Ferry were uncovered. Thus, 373 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:48.359 the investigation grew in significance and the criminal charges against 374 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:54.720 Ferry multiplied. A review of Sergeant Fournier's testimony leads one 375 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:58.160 inescapably at the conclusion that the criminal charges against Ferry 376 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:00.880 were not the result of any sinister forces at work 377 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.119 or the result of the activities of an outraged mother. 378 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:08.720 The criminal charges resulted directly and solely from Fairiy's nefarious activities. 379 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.160 There can be no doubt that Ferry was intimately connected 380 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.319 with Alexander Landry's runaway from home. It is even admitted 381 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.359 that the first time Landry ran away, he went directly 382 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:20.599 to Ferry. The second time he ran away, he did 383 00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:23.000 not return until his parents signed a statement agreeing not 384 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.680 to prosecute Ferry again. This is admitted by Fairry. Nor 385 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.599 can there be any doubt that Faerry was intimately connected 386 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:35.000 with the al Chamei's runaway from home. Sergeant Fournier testified 387 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.759 that as to Ferry visiting Charem in the youth Detention 388 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:40.759 center under the pretext of being a doctor. The connection 389 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:44.640 is also confirmed by the passport obtained for Chamie by 390 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:47.720 Ferry at approximately the time of the runaway. The evidence 391 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:50.880 points directly to the fact that Fairy assisted that child 392 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:53.319 in running away and that his visit to the child 393 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.559 was for the purpose of ensuring that he would conceal 394 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.599 the part played by Ferry. Sergeant Fournier's testimony the charges 395 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.920 that Ferry had purported to be a medical doctor and 396 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.440 his connection with the Holy Apostle, the Catholic Church of 397 00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:11.720 North America and with the Yeah whatever medical equipment, a priest, 398 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.119 robe and chalice were found when Faery's house were searched. 399 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.519 Sergeant Fournier's testimony showed that the statements of the juveniles 400 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:23.039 involved as to Fairie's sexual deviations were obtained freely involuntarily. 401 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:24.799