Speaker 1: It's with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy Boston.
Speaker 2: Two hours down, two hours to go. This is night Side.
Speaker 2: Dan is off. He'll be back Wednesday, the first of
Speaker 2: January twenty twenty five. And those of you who hear
Speaker 2: me fill in I'm busy, or hear me on my
Speaker 2: own show Saturdays, you all know I have the utmost
Speaker 2: respect for my next guest, and I teasingly refer to
Speaker 2: her as the Empress of entertainment. And she'll tell you
Speaker 2: when I call to line up for her to be
Speaker 2: on again. I use that phrase on her answer machine
Speaker 2: and she's I hear a giggling in the background.
Speaker 3: I am giggling. I've got I'm very flattered by that,
Speaker 3: Moniker Morgan, and it's so I'm so happy to be
Speaker 3: here the day after Christmas. I'm exhausted.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get people to call you that, any
Speaker 2: business people, friends, I'm trying to get everybody.
Speaker 3: Everybody called me that I insist that they do.
Speaker 2: Oh good. I'm a happy, happy, joy joy camper. So
Speaker 2: let's talk about this December. I cannot remember a year
Speaker 2: would there have been so many Christmas movies? First week,
Speaker 2: second week, third week of December Christmas that had their debut, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I feel like it's been
Speaker 3: all sort of dragged out through the fall and all
Speaker 3: sort of bunched up in the last month or so,
Speaker 3: and a lot of movies that still have not opened,
Speaker 3: which are you know, big movies, and movies that opened
Speaker 3: earlier got a lot of buzz earlier. I feel like
Speaker 3: it's been kind of spread out, so right, So there
Speaker 3: you go. But it's a very it's a very strange season.
Speaker 3: A lot of really good movies, but not a lot
Speaker 3: of sort of blockbusters that everybody was dying to see
Speaker 3: in a sense, you know, maybe Wicked. Let's say Wicked,
Speaker 3: and they have.
Speaker 2: Made their money with that movie. Oh good grief have they?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's Wicked and Mowana, who have just been
Speaker 3: really gangbusters at the box office. Pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: I have one question when you say Mawana makes me
Speaker 2: think of Disney. When I think of Disney, I think
Speaker 2: of The Lion King.
Speaker 3: I think of the Rock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm so glad you have an image of him,
Speaker 2: But the prequel to The Lion King. We all know
Speaker 2: that we lost James Earl Jones this year, but we
Speaker 2: also know that movies get made five ten a year
Speaker 2: before they get relieved. Could he reprise his voice as
Speaker 2: Mufasa grew up?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's Aaron Pierre is the guy who voices Mufasa in
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four film Mufasa the Lion King. So
Speaker 3: he's replacing James Earl Jones, and that was made. I
Speaker 3: think that decision was made pretty early in the development
Speaker 3: of the film, and that was really a long time
Speaker 3: before James Earl Jones passed away, and the film is
Speaker 3: a prequel. So he sounds like a slightly younger version
Speaker 3: of the Lion King of Mufasa, which is appropriate, I mean,
Speaker 3: because who could really replicate James Earl Jones's deep basso,
Speaker 3: you know, baritone voice.
Speaker 2: James Earl Jones could do it. And if he was
Speaker 2: still alive when they were putting this whole movie together,
Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't pick him to be
Speaker 2: Mufasa again.
Speaker 3: You know, who knows why that decision was made and
Speaker 3: what you know, how willing he was to take on
Speaker 3: that part. Maybe he was unable to handle that part.
Speaker 3: I don't know at that point. You know what kind
Speaker 3: of shape he was in. I don't know, but I
Speaker 3: know the decision was made earlier, and maybe they just
Speaker 3: decided they wanted a younger voice and that's how they
Speaker 3: did it. I don't know. That's all I can tell you.
Speaker 3: But it's an actor named Aaron Pierre.
Speaker 2: That's what Disney does. And by the way, this is
Speaker 2: a trivia fact for you, Okay, the only how can
Speaker 2: I say this production? Will you heard James Earl Jones
Speaker 2: say Luke, I'm your father.
Speaker 3: You know they should have called you Morgan, they should
Speaker 3: have called you my god. When you just said that,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Yeah, do you do a lot of voice work,
Speaker 3: I mean, beyond what you do on the radio. So
Speaker 3: brilliant I have, I.
Speaker 2: Have, But no one called. My phone didn't ring. But
Speaker 2: what was the only I'll just say thing for lack
Speaker 2: of anything else, and I'll tell you it was a
Speaker 2: TV show. Because he never said that in the movies,
Speaker 2: the Star Wars movies. He never said exact said that
Speaker 2: exact line. But a lot of people say that as
Speaker 2: if he did. It's like Kerry Grant never said Judy, Judy, Judy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there are so many of those that became well, it's and.
Speaker 3: That Casa Blanc Alne. Play it Sam, you know, play
Speaker 3: it against Sam. That was never said exactly that way.
Speaker 3: If she can stand it, so can I, you know,
Speaker 3: play that whatever it was.
Speaker 2: I just watched Castle Blanca this week. HBO is showing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, And I watched.
Speaker 2: It again for the eighty millionth time because I love
Speaker 2: that movie.
Speaker 3: There are some movies you just never get tired of
Speaker 3: watching over and over again, never never. I always love
Speaker 3: rewatching A Few Good Men with Tom Cruise, Jack Nicholson
Speaker 3: de me Moore that what's that movie? And I love
Speaker 3: that final courtroom scene where you know, Cruise and Nicholson
Speaker 3: go toe to toe head to head in that line
Speaker 3: even imitates Nicholson in that film, So it's it's pretty
Speaker 3: funny in that line.
Speaker 2: You can't handle the truth. But I have to answer
Speaker 2: my question. James O. Jones made an appearance on The
Speaker 2: Big Bang Theory. Okay, that's that's when he said, because
Speaker 2: the plot Alan John Cryer's character was going to hire
Speaker 2: James Earl Jones to do his voicemail, and James Earl
Speaker 2: joneson what do you want? Do you want lukom your
Speaker 2: father or what? But he just him saying that sent chills.
Speaker 3: That my spine, I know, just one of those voices.
Speaker 3: And if you know anything about James Earld Jones, then
Speaker 3: we read a lot about him in his obituaries after
Speaker 3: he passed away. But this is sort of interesting lore
Speaker 3: about him anyway, that he was a stutterer and very
Speaker 3: shy about his stutter when he was a child and
Speaker 3: had to really overcome that in his voice. His beautiful
Speaker 3: voice ended up being his signature, and it's a pretty
Speaker 3: amazing thing. But it's the slowness, the deliberateness of that voice.
Speaker 2: I fell in love with him as an actor. The
Speaker 2: big screen did him the most justice in The.
Speaker 4: Great White Hope, sure, yep.
Speaker 2: And Jane Alexander is his co star, and the whole
Speaker 2: history of knowing about Jack Johnson, there was just something
Speaker 2: that captivated me and obviously a lot of other filmgoers.
Speaker 3: But he just nineteen sixty nine, that goes way.
Speaker 2: Back, yep. And he brought such dignity to.
Speaker 3: That role exactly well that you know you said it,
Speaker 3: I mean, that is a great word to use in
Speaker 3: describing James ol Jones. He just had a certain kind
Speaker 3: of substantive dignity no matter you know, the classics saying
Speaker 3: he could read the phone book and make it sound
Speaker 3: like Shakespeare. He just had a certain kind of bearing
Speaker 3: and it was all channeled really through the voice and
Speaker 3: his carriage, that quiet, quiet dignity and power and strength
Speaker 3: that he conveyed. So yeah, perfect perfect role for him
Speaker 3: and really made his mark.
Speaker 2: Let me take a break. People, if you're listening now,
Speaker 2: and if you have a question about a movie you've
Speaker 2: seen the past two or three weeks, one of the
Speaker 2: Christmas releases, maybe Joyce has seen it. Maybe she'll be
Speaker 2: able to give you an opinion about it, whether she
Speaker 2: has seen it or just knows about it. Phone number
Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or eight eight, eight,
Speaker 2: nine to nine, ten thirty. My guest Joyce Skoll Haywick,
Speaker 2: and I affectionately call her the Empress of Entertainment. You
Speaker 2: can call her Joyce, so use my name whichever you prefer.
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Speaker 5: If you only knew the power.
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Life Sights two years on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is night Side. My name Morgan White Junior
Speaker 2: and if you've seen any film released over the past,
Speaker 2: I'll say three four weeks pretty much December, tail end
Speaker 2: of November. Maybe, just maybe Joyce can give you a
Speaker 2: comment or two about those films. First caller tonight for
Speaker 2: Joyce is from Maine. Allison, you've got Joyce skill? Heywick?
Speaker 6: Oh hello, Hi, I guess yeah. Well I just found
Speaker 6: a Trato yesterday and I liked it. But I didn't
Speaker 6: like I don't know. I still think that the Cloudskinskiver
Speaker 6: and Hurtzug version from forty years ago is to be Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm going way back. If you've ever seen
Speaker 3: the silent version, oh.
Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, yeah yeah. But I'm not I'm not a
Speaker 6: super just kind of a blond spot for you kind of.
Speaker 6: I never I'm not a supercent of silent film. So
Speaker 6: I don't know why very few, just a Phantom and
Speaker 6: a couple other ones. But I just I liked it.
Speaker 6: I just love the way the Aggers recreates the era
Speaker 6: that he's just an expert at that when he does
Speaker 6: his film. All of these films are set in the past.
Speaker 6: I and beautiful costumes and good cast and everything, and
Speaker 6: I like the other snow, I always like when they
Speaker 6: add snowed to movies for no particular reason, but it
Speaker 6: added something to it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have not seen h for us. It's
Speaker 3: on my list to see what. I will tell you
Speaker 3: that critics are loving this film. It's getting fabulous reviews.
Speaker 3: It's got an amazing cast. Willem Dafoe, builds stars, guard
Speaker 3: Lily Rose, depth and fabulous, fabulous cast, extremely well made apparently,
Speaker 3: and looks really scary. I don't watch a lot of really,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of horror movies, but I do like
Speaker 3: gothic horror movies. I mean, I'm a big Dracula fan,
Speaker 3: and I do like anything set in Transylvania.
Speaker 6: I didn't a sort of.
Speaker 3: Like the vampire the vampire genre.
Speaker 6: Don't give me too much. I didn't like the way
Speaker 6: they redesigned thout. Do you like to say that? I
Speaker 6: just I don't like the way they redesigned because look
Speaker 6: and everything right. Did you ever see the film Crimson Peak,
Speaker 6: Del Toro's film from about ten years ago? Because I
Speaker 6: just love that film anyway. That's a very gothic film
Speaker 6: that the girl Gilma to Tour made about ten years ago.
Speaker 3: No, I have not seen it.
Speaker 6: Oh, Tom Hit'llston, Miawasakowska, and I can't remember who the
Speaker 6: third one was Jessica Testing. Yeah. Anyway, Otherwise, I think
Speaker 6: it's been a pretty week year for movies. I have
Speaker 6: to admit, I don't know why I haven't seen that much.
Speaker 6: I really loved, I wanted, I really wanted to love.
Speaker 3: The new See a complete Unknown to Dylan biopic.
Speaker 6: One of the few who isn't Are you.
Speaker 3: A Timothy Shalla may fan?
Speaker 6: I haven't liked much he was. I guess maybe calling
Speaker 6: he's got your name, maybe me.
Speaker 3: Buy your name pretty pretty much put him on the map,
Speaker 3: and he this is maybe the best thing he's ever done.
Speaker 3: So I would really recommend this. I would also predict
Speaker 3: he's gonna walk away with at least an Oscar nomination
Speaker 3: for his role here. Like Dylan, it's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 6: What he does didn't get wide released. But somebody I
Speaker 6: really love named you know, here's sarmonin and she just.
Speaker 3: The Outrun and also the Glits.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and Outrun was very good. It had some problems. Again,
Speaker 6: and you know, I've seen so many movies it's hard
Speaker 6: for me not to be hypercritical about things.
Speaker 3: But she's pretty extraordinary. No matter what she does, and
Speaker 3: she was great in both of those. But my favorite
Speaker 3: film that she's ever done to date Brooklyn. Do you
Speaker 3: remember Brooklyn?
Speaker 6: I've never seen it.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's a film I could watch over
Speaker 3: and over again. In fact, it was just on a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and my husband feels the same way.
Speaker 3: We can start that movie at any point and just
Speaker 3: can't tear ourselves away from it. It's touching, it's funny,
Speaker 3: it's about a it's about an Irish immigrant girl who
Speaker 3: comes over and tries to start a new life in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: It's all of her experiences here and a relationship that
Speaker 3: she forms and her connection with the old country and
Speaker 3: with her her new group of friends that she's making
Speaker 3: in the United States. But her performance is just so moving.
Speaker 6: Oh sorry, But the outrun is he sees a girl
Speaker 6: from the far north of Scotland, the Orkney Islands. I've
Speaker 6: actually been, and and then she goes to London for
Speaker 6: time and gets some kind of into bad shaps and
Speaker 6: she's an alcoholic and and I thought there. She filmed
Speaker 6: it in the Orkneys, most of it, and it was
Speaker 6: so beautiful. So she did beautiful. But the stuff in
Speaker 6: London just rank phony to me. It just seems funny.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to get back to the island. And yeah,
Speaker 6: did you ever see films? Did it years ago? Called
Speaker 6: several years ago called Ammonite with Kate Winslet, because it's
Speaker 6: exactly brilliant I did.
Speaker 3: She was extraordinary in that, as was Winslet. And I'm
Speaker 3: not necessarily a Kate Winslet fan, but yeah, that was
Speaker 3: a terrific film. I love that. Well, So you see
Speaker 3: a lot of movies, did you see?
Speaker 6: I don't see a lot of the mainstream stuff, to
Speaker 6: be honest, But then I.
Speaker 3: Did you see Emilia Perez?
Speaker 6: No, I'm looking forward to that hasn't coming here yet.
Speaker 6: Is that out?
Speaker 3: Is that phenomena? It's on it's streaming and I don't
Speaker 3: know which platform it's actually streaming, and it is. It's
Speaker 3: like four movies in one. It's Selina Gomez, Zoey Sell,
Speaker 3: Dona Carla Sophia Guescon, a very well known Mexican actress
Speaker 3: Adriana Pauz, and this ensemble cast won the Best Actress
Speaker 3: award at the con Film Festival this past year.
Speaker 6: Get up here because I don't use computers, but I'm
Speaker 6: also wanting to Well, you've.
Speaker 3: Got it and it's a nominated for the Pomp Dworm,
Speaker 3: But you've got to see that if there's any way
Speaker 3: you can see that movie. And it's a musical on
Speaker 3: top of being a thriller, and it's about domestic violence,
Speaker 3: and it's also about social justice, and it's about identity
Speaker 3: and and it's a musical.
Speaker 6: That's get together. We start rabbiting over running over each
Speaker 6: other for that film. But yeah, so I want to
Speaker 6: see The Room next Door to with To Swinton and
Speaker 6: Julianne Moore, you know right. Yeah, it is an Alma
Speaker 6: Dovar film, you know right, So I'm coming out very
Speaker 6: soon too. So maybe have you seen that one yet?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: It's okay, no, not yet, but I have seen a Noora.
Speaker 3: Have you seen Anora?
Speaker 6: I partner loves the Noura, But I know, sorry, I
Speaker 6: just I didn't like the characters. I just thought, you know,
Speaker 6: oh really, oh my.
Speaker 3: Gosh, Okay, well it's really I mean that Mikey Madison
Speaker 3: is extraordinary. She plays a Brooklyn sex worker who marries
Speaker 3: the son of a Russian oligarch and the family finds
Speaker 3: out descends on the couple to have the marriage at all,
Speaker 3: and it's like one big, long frantic chase scene in
Speaker 3: a way. But it's also it's a pretty satiric commentary
Speaker 3: on the transactional nature of the culture these days and
Speaker 3: how it is very corrosive to your to your soul,
Speaker 3: if you will, honey, and poignant and really wild and amazing.
Speaker 3: So I would recommend that film.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to hear.
Speaker 2: I let you go, and thank you for covering a
Speaker 2: lot with Joyce.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for calling. Always very interesting to
Speaker 3: talk with you.
Speaker 2: Bye bye, and I've got news in about two minutes.
Speaker 2: This is an offshoot subject the Golden Globes. They're they're
Speaker 2: having their hoopla on Sunday or the Sunday afternoon, I
Speaker 2: forget which. What's your opinion of Nicky Glazer.
Speaker 3: I have no idea who she is, what she does.
Speaker 3: Apparently she's a comedian and maybe she's been on television.
Speaker 3: I have no idea. And of course she makes fun
Speaker 3: of the fact that nobody knows who she is, so
Speaker 3: therefore she's free to say anything she wants. Hey, she
Speaker 3: may be terrific, who knows. I always go in open
Speaker 3: to these things. But she wouldn't pull me in, let's
Speaker 3: put it that way. But I'm going to watch the
Speaker 3: Golden Globes no matter what.
Speaker 2: And I'm just curious only because she has done two
Speaker 2: stand ups on HBO. She ges PG thirteen to R.
Speaker 3: R rated that's about right, maybe even.
Speaker 2: A smidge and beyond are And she did the Tom
Speaker 2: bab Brady Roast. She was one of the major personalities.
Speaker 3: There, which by all accounts was horrible. Yeah yeah roast.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, and now she's doing the Golden Globes. I don't
Speaker 2: know who her agent happens to be, but they're earning
Speaker 2: their living.
Speaker 3: You're not kidding. They got her on the Globes. But
Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens. But I'm going to watch,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll call you at home afterwards, just to give
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Speaker 1: Here on night Side called Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Nightside without Dan Ray periodically means me, I'm walking white Junior.
Speaker 2: I get to fill in for Dan. He will be
Speaker 2: back next year, which is next Wednesday, the first of
Speaker 2: January twenty twenty five. I've got Joyce Cole Hawick on
Speaker 2: with me, and Joyce, do you miss being on the
Speaker 2: anchor desk of Channel four?
Speaker 3: Well, I miss the audience. I missed the platform, which
Speaker 3: really just doesn't even exist anymore for arts and entertainment coverage.
Speaker 3: But I do not miss those hair raising deadlines, which
Speaker 3: were crazy. I would be in the theater as late
Speaker 3: it is ten fifteen or ten thirty and then have
Speaker 3: to race back to the station to be on at
Speaker 3: eleven twenty four every single night, weekday night, and it
Speaker 3: was really scary. In that time. I'd have to write
Speaker 3: and edit and get on my lipstick and run down
Speaker 3: the hall and sit in that seat and hope that
Speaker 3: Bob Lobell left me enough time at the end of
Speaker 3: sports to get out my two minutes about whatever I'd
Speaker 3: just seen hot off the presses and had it been
Speaker 3: able to digest. So it was really intense and I
Speaker 3: do not miss that did that for almost thirty years.
Speaker 3: It was a long time, and now I take my time.
Speaker 3: I have time to actually think about things, and I
Speaker 3: have a longer, longer platform on which to express myself.
Speaker 3: That would be Joyce's Choices dot Com, my website. So
Speaker 3: sign up. I still review movies in theater and whenever
Speaker 3: I post, it'll pop into your email if you sign
Speaker 3: up for my site.
Speaker 6: So there you go.
Speaker 2: And I've got a silly question. I remember the PA
Speaker 2: I remember the promo you did where you must have
Speaker 2: put on a dozen or two dozen hats, right to
Speaker 2: indicate all the aspects of your.
Speaker 3: Job as exactly. I'll never forget. It's the site of
Speaker 3: the spot when something like I have more in my
Speaker 3: mind than just movies. There's theater and dance and music
Speaker 3: and the visual arts and museums and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3: So that was the idea, is that we reported on
Speaker 3: all of the arts. And before that, no one had
Speaker 3: ever done that in a regular way every single night
Speaker 3: as part of a news team. So instead of just
Speaker 3: being news, sports and weather, it was news, sports, weather,
Speaker 3: and arts and entertainment. And believe it or not, we
Speaker 3: paved the way for that, and soon everybody in Boston
Speaker 3: had an arts and entertainment report, and that became a
Speaker 3: very very popular beat, and it was so unusual that
Speaker 3: The New York Times wrote an editorial on our entire
Speaker 3: public service campaign, you got to Have Arts, which was
Speaker 3: really amazing and did an awful one, I think for
Speaker 3: the arts community in Boston, And I mean, it's a
Speaker 3: culture rich city, so why wouldn't we have that as
Speaker 3: a regular beat. But as soon as TV started to
Speaker 3: fall apart, they got rid of what they thought were
Speaker 3: you know, the frills are the things that weren't necessary,
Speaker 3: and the arts are always the first to go, and
Speaker 3: they went not. I mean, we have world class everything
Speaker 3: in Boston, music, theater, dance, museums, movies being made in
Speaker 3: our streets. I mean, it's pretty extraordinary that in Boston,
Speaker 3: in the Northeast, that we don't have a regular coverage
Speaker 3: of the arts and culture in this town, which is
Speaker 3: important for people to know about. I mean, it shows
Speaker 3: some of the extraordinary things human beings are capable of,
Speaker 3: not just the grasped corruption, horrible crimes, and you know,
Speaker 3: we do wonderful, amazing things and people need to see
Speaker 3: that about themselves and understand what's right around us. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people don't know what's going
Speaker 3: on in Boston and it's all happening right here.
Speaker 2: We should bring that back. But here's my question about
Speaker 2: that promo. Was that filmed where they kept handing you
Speaker 2: hats or was that the magic of TV?
Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you there wasn't that much magic at
Speaker 3: that time. We didn't have those special effects. There wasn't
Speaker 3: ai to do that. I will never forget shooting that promo.
Speaker 3: They had to strap me into a chair and fix
Speaker 3: get me in a certain position where I couldn't move
Speaker 3: my head or my face except to say each line.
Speaker 3: I couldn't move my neck or turn my head. They
Speaker 3: would then switch out the hat and I'd say the
Speaker 3: next line, the next line, the next line, the next line.
Speaker 3: It took us hours to shoot that, and I was
Speaker 3: literally fixed to the chair I was strapped in and
Speaker 3: they had my head and neck immobilized. It was it
Speaker 3: was impossible.
Speaker 2: The glamor of television. Oh yeah, right, glamor.
Speaker 3: But it became one of the most memorable things and
Speaker 3: people still ask me about that spot and I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: It was the first and I wore a red sequined
Speaker 3: I don't know, jumpsuit or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I've recalled it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very hard to shoot.
Speaker 2: Let me ask this question about you mentioned movies filmed
Speaker 2: in Boston. What was your fate? Now, it could be
Speaker 2: during your thirty years, or it could be before your
Speaker 2: thirty years or post you thirty years, but what was
Speaker 2: your favorite movie filmed in Boston?
Speaker 3: Honestly, my very favorite film, and it's one of these
Speaker 3: films that I can watch all the time, and it
Speaker 3: has very special meaning for me, goodwill hunting without I wish.
Speaker 2: I had turned to Nancy and mouthed those words.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's absolutely without a doubt, the phenomenal script,
Speaker 3: extremely well acted by Ben Affleck and Matt Damon who
Speaker 3: wrote it and shopped this thing around and got assembled
Speaker 3: a cast that included Robin Williams. I mean it was
Speaker 3: and Casey Affleck, you know, the whole crew was there
Speaker 3: but Minnie Driver, right, and then then Matt and Minnie
Speaker 3: went out for a while and then that blew up.
Speaker 3: But it was shot in so many memorable places. I
Speaker 3: mean in Southey and in the public garden. I'll never
Speaker 3: forget that conversation Harvard Square right, Oh, them sitting at
Speaker 3: the Tasty I think it was, you know, having a
Speaker 3: having a burger, yeah, and then him walking into that
Speaker 3: bar and having that Harvard guy try to make him
Speaker 3: look try to make Ben look stupid, and Matt came
Speaker 3: to his rescue and then ran circles around this guy,
Speaker 3: uh and then said, hey, I got number. How do
Speaker 3: you like them apples?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: It was it was a very it was an excellent film.
Speaker 3: And then of course they walked off with an oscar
Speaker 3: for it. And I was at the Oscars that year,
Speaker 3: covered that ceremony, covered them on the red carpet, covered
Speaker 3: them in the winner's room afterward.
Speaker 2: They were kids, they were happy, Yes, they were.
Speaker 3: Ecstatic, and and they really sort of emblazoned themselves on
Speaker 3: the memories of everybody who always thinks of them together.
Speaker 3: And they remain obviously very close, lifelong friends. And that
Speaker 3: night you could just see the you know, the camaraderie
Speaker 3: and the brotherhood, if you will. But that stayed true
Speaker 3: all these years. I remember being in that room with
Speaker 3: all the press corps. There were hundreds of us in
Speaker 3: that room as all the people who won were coming backstage,
Speaker 3: and there's always somebody who runs the Q and A backstage,
Speaker 3: and I went up to the woman and I said, listen,
Speaker 3: I'm from Boston. I know these two. Can I ask
Speaker 3: the first question in the room? And she said sure.
Speaker 3: So I was in the back. I stood up and
Speaker 3: they walk in. I raised my hand and I said,
Speaker 3: Matt Ben and they look out and they say, hey,
Speaker 3: Joyce said, they lift up their oscars. It was great,
Speaker 3: And of course we took that and we used it
Speaker 3: as a promo for the next you know, twenty years Ontel.
Speaker 3: It was so great, but Goodwill Hunting for all kinds
Speaker 3: of reasons. It's an excellent film, and it really put
Speaker 3: them on the map. And it's so Boston.
Speaker 2: What did you think?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: The movie that started Boston being like a separate actor
Speaker 2: was the movie with Steph mcqueens Fade Down Away Paul Burk,
Speaker 2: The Thomas Crown.
Speaker 3: Thomas Crown Affair exactly. I was thinking about that and
Speaker 3: also the remake of The Thomas Crown Affair.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that one because no, we
Speaker 2: don't want.
Speaker 3: To know about that, but I mean, it's such a
Speaker 3: good film and it really worked. I think in both
Speaker 3: ways it worked. The first one worked and the the
Speaker 3: the remake work.
Speaker 2: Remake work, Yes, it did. And you were I'm guessing
Speaker 2: because I know you were a teacher Brookline High. And
Speaker 2: that was even before you became a teacher, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because I started teaching in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 3: I think it was my movie seventy six. That movie
Speaker 3: was sixty yeah, sixty eight exactly. But there's some I
Speaker 3: mean that departed what ant That's such a good film
Speaker 3: set in Boston and about Boston again, Matt Damon and
Speaker 3: Mark Wahlberg, and it's just so many Boston people in
Speaker 3: that film. So Alec Baldwin is in that, not that
Speaker 3: he's Boston, but had just an amazing cast and Martin
Speaker 3: Grip pardon me, Martin Sheen, Martin Sheen, yeah, oh, Martin Sheen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's seen with Martin Sheen. But another really remarkable Boston film.
Speaker 3: I wish, though, they would start making films about Boston
Speaker 3: that weren't always so down and dirty, do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? I mean, the Affair was sort of different,
Speaker 3: but I mean, it isn't like we're all gangsters criminals.
Speaker 2: In Iowa. If you live in ioland in Arizona, you
Speaker 2: think Boston. Yeah, you might think some of the sports teams,
Speaker 2: you know, Brady, but.
Speaker 3: I think rough and tumble, honest, a little bit crude, suglike.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, okay, that's an aspect of the city.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you this again.
Speaker 2: You and I are going to be the executive producers
Speaker 2: of a movie yet to be titled, yet to be
Speaker 2: even put into screenplay form. Do you need to do that?
Speaker 2: When I hit the big game tomorrow. I've already told
Speaker 2: Jordan I'm going to use him as the star when
Speaker 2: we remake Spencer. So I know what I want to do,
Speaker 2: and I know what I want to do with you. Yes,
Speaker 2: I know what I want to do with Heck, I
Speaker 2: have a concept. So let me take my break, invite
Speaker 2: maybe one, possibly two phone calls with the time you
Speaker 2: and I half left here on night Side six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
Speaker 2: thirty eight, eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty time
Speaker 2: and temperature ten forty five thirty one degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We only took two calls in the majority of this hour,
Speaker 2: and now we have two more to take. John and Marblehead.
Speaker 2: You're next with Joyce Kleeywick.
Speaker 4: Hey, how a ya, We're five?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 5: Nothing? Just just hi, Joyce, how are you nothing. I've
Speaker 5: just been listening to the show and I kind of
Speaker 5: never call, but I figured i'd call in because it's
Speaker 5: a good topic, a good topic. The entertainment world or
Speaker 5: the arcs are a great thing. And U I'm a
Speaker 5: movie guy. I'm a theater guy, musicals mostly, but theater guy.
Speaker 5: And uh yeah, and I just one of the things
Speaker 5: that I realized today. Like with the movies. You know,
Speaker 5: people like Joyce and they do movie reviews. Back when
Speaker 5: I was a kid, you don't like things are playing
Speaker 5: at the movies. I don't know what they are, like nobody.
Speaker 5: They don't advertise or they don't advertise the way I
Speaker 5: follow them, So I never know what anything is. You know,
Speaker 5: it's just kind of it's changed. It's changed a lot,
Speaker 5: so it's a little strange for me.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. And you don't find that you see ads
Speaker 3: for movies on the air. I felt like I was
Speaker 3: seeing tons of ads for Wicked and a complete and
Speaker 3: known for example, or are you watching TV?
Speaker 5: No, I watched TV all the time, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: yeah Wicked, they've been on for six months. Yeah they
Speaker 5: have the buds right right. But the average thing playing
Speaker 5: it's TV commercials is not where you find it that
Speaker 5: I run into that I run into, you know, right,
Speaker 5: unless it's something like that. Unless it's something like that.
Speaker 5: What did you think of Wicked in.
Speaker 4: The thing in.
Speaker 3: The you mean the movie Wicked or the or the
Speaker 3: play the movie the movie? I thought the movie was terrific,
Speaker 3: And I have to say I dreaded. I dreaded going
Speaker 3: to see it because number one, I really love the
Speaker 3: play and I love the music, and I thought, oh,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be too long. It's only part one
Speaker 3: and it's like two and a half hours long, and
Speaker 3: it's only the first half. And I thought it's going
Speaker 3: to be all blown up, it's gonna be two it's
Speaker 3: gonna just collapse under the weight of the big screen
Speaker 3: Hollywood treatment. And I went and I was so pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 3: It is really terrific. It's almost got too much of
Speaker 3: everything in every scene. But these two performances Ariana Grande
Speaker 3: as the good Witch and Alphaba Cynthia Arivo as the
Speaker 3: wicked Rich of the West, and the backstory about those two,
Speaker 3: they are such phenomenal performances. Ariana Grande is so funny.
Speaker 3: I mean, we know they can and both sing, and
Speaker 3: boy can they sing. I mean like multi octave, powerful
Speaker 3: voices and easy. And they sang live to camera. It
Speaker 3: wasn't like they taped it in the recording booth and
Speaker 3: then they lipsied it later. No, they sang it live.
Speaker 3: So the film had a real, almost like a theatrical
Speaker 3: energy to it, because what you saw was what was
Speaker 3: really happening as they shot it, So I thought it was.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was a terrific film. Did you
Speaker 3: like it as well?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I saw it in New York years ago with my
Speaker 5: daughter and loved it. And I knew nothing about it
Speaker 5: when I saw it. Yeah, and then I and I
Speaker 5: decided to see it in imax, which might have helped.
Speaker 5: But I was, Yeah, I was blown away by how
Speaker 5: good it was. I was blown away by how good
Speaker 5: it was. And you know, like you say, the two characters,
Speaker 5: what I tell people that haven't seen it if they're
Speaker 5: going to go. I really think that the Glinda character
Speaker 5: kind of steals the show because she's just so so
Speaker 5: fun and obnoxious, and you know, thinks's Karen. I think
Speaker 5: she's the most caring person in the world, and she
Speaker 5: really isn't, but coactly, And sometimes when you see something
Speaker 5: on stage it's very funny, and then when you see
Speaker 5: the movie version, those funny lines just get rolled over
Speaker 5: you don't recognize how funny they are, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 5: Exactly, so exactly, they did a good job at that.
Speaker 5: She Arianna Grandi was unbelievable. They were both unbelievable, So
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 3: They're both extraordinary. And you know, the Cynthia Rivo of
Speaker 3: the Wicked Witch of the West character, her problem is
Speaker 3: she's green, you know, and we all understand the overtones there.
Speaker 3: I mean, her skin color makes her feel like I
Speaker 3: feel othered, if you will, just she's excluded. She looks strange,
Speaker 3: and as you say, the Glinda character makes a big
Speaker 3: show of coming to her rescue to show how good
Speaker 3: she is. But in fact, you know, what's touching about
Speaker 3: the show is that there is a real relationship that develops,
Speaker 3: and they really do love each other. And a Revo's
Speaker 3: character has a has a kind of seriousness and and wait,
Speaker 3: that is a great counterpoint to how what a flibmity
Speaker 3: Gibbet Glinda is initially. So they're just terrific.
Speaker 2: I loved it, John, I got to let you know,
Speaker 2: I got two more people.
Speaker 4: To get on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Thank you, care talk you.
Speaker 2: John, Bill Winnaker, you're going to score the movie that
Speaker 2: Joyce and I are going to produce. Biller, Hi, Bill,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 4: Oh great? Great? You know, we had we had a
Speaker 4: pleasure seeing Joyce in twenty twenty four we worked an
Speaker 4: event together. But yeah, but the main thing, my main
Speaker 4: point is some people when they get the globe of
Speaker 4: their herald, they grab the sports page first. That's that's
Speaker 4: what they were. Even Dan Ray says the first thing
Speaker 4: he reads is the sports page. But I would wait
Speaker 4: through the news, the Tannel four news, and couldn't wait
Speaker 4: to get the Joyce's uh Last and entertainment report every night.
Speaker 3: You know, Thank you, Bill, that's lovely.
Speaker 2: You know the.
Speaker 4: Stations covered it too, but you were the dean, you
Speaker 4: were the best.
Speaker 3: It's the first one. I was the first one, and
Speaker 3: then everyone jumped on the bandwagon, and I was so
Speaker 3: glad they did the arts in art town. Need it
Speaker 3: as you know, musician extraordinaire. And you're still at it,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: Still and you're still at it.
Speaker 2: Channel seven and Channel five they made a good effort.
Speaker 2: But you had it, you had it locked down. You
Speaker 2: had it locked down.
Speaker 4: Joy like the Tom Brady you know, superstar and what
Speaker 4: you do.
Speaker 2: She was the goat of all time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you have a gift of you know, it's
Speaker 4: just you ooz with love and joy and spirit and personality.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I love this beat. I just love it, and I
Speaker 3: think people should only do the things they love. What
Speaker 3: a great world it would be, right, imagine if you
Speaker 3: had a waiter who really loved being a waiter, a
Speaker 3: gardener who loved being a gardener, I mean, a musician
Speaker 3: who loves to be a musician. Of course, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: be one if you if you didn't love it, because
Speaker 3: there's no money in that. But uh, you gotta love
Speaker 3: what you do and then that always comes shining through,
Speaker 3: and you usually can do that better than anybody else.
Speaker 2: Bill, you go to get one more on.
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry with you, Bill, Thank you for your all.
Speaker 2: John and Ohio, John and Ohio. You wait to the
Speaker 2: very end of the show to call in. John, I'll
Speaker 2: give you a minute and a half. I'll give you
Speaker 2: a minute and a half with Joyce.
Speaker 4: Call Heywick, I'm really like that.
Speaker 7: You mentioned of Howard Zinn's People's History of the United
Speaker 7: States and Noam Chomsky CIA Operation Mockingbird Controls Controls the Media,
Speaker 7: two sources that are almost unthinkable in this age of
Speaker 7: thousand close right wing radio stations trying to ruify anything
Speaker 7: that doesn't perform to the hagiography of the official version
Speaker 7: of US history.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Really, he's a fixture in the Boston area. I knew
Speaker 3: Howard and his lovely wife, and he just was such
Speaker 3: a champ in so many ways. I mean, he told
Speaker 3: it like it was, and he was fiery till the
Speaker 3: very end, really and truly.
Speaker 7: Yes, it took me. Okay, that's enough, but that's I
Speaker 7: really appreciated Matt damon bringing that up and plugging those
Speaker 7: two sources with that movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I'm so glad you mentioned that. Thanks for
Speaker 3: the call.
Speaker 2: Thanks John taking here, and Joyce, you make sure that
Speaker 2: your husband starts calling you empress.
Speaker 3: Oh I started that years ago, when I started it done.
Speaker 2: I'm applauding that, Joyce, you and I are going to talk,
Speaker 2: maybe as soon as Monday, because I'll know then how
Speaker 2: much I'm getting.
Speaker 3: And exactly, let's get this deal going. Hey, Happy new year, Morgan,
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me, and greetings to
Speaker 3: everybody out there listening.
Speaker 2: Happy to you too, Joyce. Cool, Heywick, there you go,
Speaker 2: all right. Time ten fifty eight temperature thirty one degrees