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Oh man, I'm I'm blessed and tired. 32 00:01:28,719 --> 00:01:29,159 Speaker 3: How are you? 33 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: How many? 34 00:01:30,879 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: How many hours of sleep do you get during this season? 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,599 On average is like two three hours a night. 36 00:01:37,079 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: It's been pretty crazy. This one has been a little 37 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,280 bit crazy. More crazy because I'm traveling with with my son, yeah, 38 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,840 and working at the same time. So it's been I 39 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:50,079 think I talcolated this week by last night really did 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:56,480 help me. But this week I've probably slept twenty four 41 00:01:56,519 --> 00:02:01,280 hours maybe in five days. I don't know, maybe twenty hours. 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,879 I mean last night was the one big one. But 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,920 it's been crazy. I'm having these crazy flights going, you know, 44 00:02:06,959 --> 00:02:09,759 across the country too, so we're leaving at three o'clock 45 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:11,719 in the morning to catch a five thirty flight or 46 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:15,840 a six o'clock flight. So it's been absolutely crazy. I 47 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:18,520 was telling my wife, I really need to start logging 48 00:02:18,599 --> 00:02:22,000 this or you know whatever, just so people can be 49 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,879 shocked at how much I'm on the phone, how annoying 50 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,199 it is, how it causes problems in my family because 51 00:02:27,199 --> 00:02:30,199 I'm always on the phone. It's a lot. It really 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:30,800 is a lot. 53 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: Oh man, well, we appreciate you. 54 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: Look at me now, and now look at me now 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,039 on the phone again. 56 00:02:36,479 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: I forced him, I mean we forced him. 57 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: We're twisting his arm and he doesn't have time for us, 58 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,039 but he's gonna make some time for us. 59 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. 60 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:49,159 Speaker 3: Will Yeah, Like, you know, how many different trips have 61 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,159 you guys taken out? How many different schools have you 62 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:53,199 guys taken a look at? And how many more schools 63 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:55,520 do you guys have on the list for Smith to 64 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,800 take a look at. 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: We're down to the final week. I mean this week 66 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,479 we have disregarding Smith. Now, remember I have a lot 67 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,319 of clients that I worked with, So we finished up 68 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,159 a lot of clients this week, and I still have 69 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:10,199 plenty of work to do. I s have high school 70 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,319 kids to place and the college landscape is just so crazy, Ben, 71 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,199 as you know. But this week we were at you know, 72 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,039 we had we were at the University of Colorado, we 73 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,680 were at b y U, we were at Michigan, we 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,000 were at Notre Dame, and we're still going to be 75 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,639 at Oregon. So that's five schools that we've been on 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,080 the campus I've been at. You know, we've been contacted 77 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:38,560 by everyone from Florida, Ohio State, t c U, Old 78 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:41,159 Myth So we didn't have a trip that we were 79 00:03:41,159 --> 00:03:44,199 going to go on to Old Myths, but Dot got canceled. Georgia. 80 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,000 We canceled the trip to Georgia. We were supposed to 81 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:49,599 be at Georgia yesterday but went to Notre Dame instead. 82 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:53,680 So it's been it's been pretty crazy for Smith and 83 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,439 he's got a really tough decision to make with these 84 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,800 unbelievable opportunities. 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Uh, do you guys have a timeline? 86 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: Just Smith had a timeline that you're aware of that 87 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,520 he wants to make his decision. 88 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to make it as soon as possible. 89 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,360 I'm hoping that he can he can have things tied 90 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,240 down by the end of this weekend for sure, so 91 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,680 by Sunday. But I would be doing the Hallelujah dance 92 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:20,439 if he told me now or told me, you know, tomorrow, 93 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,000 would be great. So we'll see what he's gonna do. 94 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:26,959 But he has a lot of great opportunities and and 95 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:30,519 he really can't go wrong with any of them, with 96 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:32,480 any of the schools that's he's dealing with. 97 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:35,079 Speaker 1: Are are you and your better half? 98 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: Who's by the way, phenomenal at decorating during Christmas? 99 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: I did. 100 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:42,519 Speaker 3: I was not familiar with her game. Well, I appreciate 101 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,079 you sending me over that. She's very good, very good indeed, 102 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:47,399 and my wife was like, oh my gosh, this is fantastic. 103 00:04:47,439 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, she's one of the one she's 104 00:04:50,079 --> 00:04:52,959 one of the more respected people in the country. What 105 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:55,800 she does, she's very good. So I wanted to let 106 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,079 you know because you were giving me a bit of teas. 107 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:01,600 So we are very fas at the Snowdon house. My 108 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:05,480 wife takes care of that and and so all of 109 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:08,120 our kids are really into it. I came from a 110 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,959 family that was kind of you know, you know, nothing special, 111 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:14,759 and now I came to a place where I married 112 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,639 a woman who's just so amazing and her whole family 113 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,639 is amazing at what they do. So I'm really into it. 114 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,360 So you will never outfestive me. 115 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,879 Speaker 1: Very Christmas happy, do your to the snows And he 116 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,279 got black Jesus and black Santa. I appreciate it. 117 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I proagnostia. I was talking to Will. 118 00:05:33,079 --> 00:05:35,680 I was like, I was like, wait, like I have 119 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,920 a theory. You got you got at least you got 120 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:40,360 a black Jesus and black Santa in your decording. 121 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: You're not. 122 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,079 Speaker 3: He's like, I'll send you the video and lo behold. 123 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:46,560 Yes indeed with a fist up, no less. I loved it, 124 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,720 loved every minute though. 125 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: There was no fisth there's no you had you you 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,079 have a brown Fanta because in our house there's there 127 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,480 we we we try and be very inclusive, uh, with 128 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:01,879 what's going on in the world. So also, if you 129 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,560 come here, you can be educated on a lot of things, 130 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,439 but more importantly, your eyes will be wowed by what. 131 00:06:07,399 --> 00:06:09,319 Speaker 1: It's seeing, no doubt about. 132 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: Beautiful sounds and also the beautiful sounds that are playing 133 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:13,319 through the house. 134 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: Well to that, to that point, right, the festivities, the 135 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,800 culture there at the snow and family within the Snow family. 136 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:22,879 Speaker 1: You guys don't want to. 137 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: Be traveling around the country every single week for Will's 138 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,199 for Smith's games, do you. 139 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,079 Speaker 2: Uh, well, you know, uh, that'site. I see what you're 140 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,519 doing there, and I do hear you and what I've 141 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,279 committed to doing. And but but me and my wife 142 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,680 said from the beginning when Smith started this conversation, is 143 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,920 that we will not be selfish. So we're trying, We're 144 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:50,480 we are not going to be selfish. And uh, as 145 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,439 much as we would love to be selfish, we're not 146 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,439 going to We're going to let him look at these 147 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:58,000 situations and opportunities and make the decision based on what 148 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,480 he thinks is best for him in his future. Obviously 149 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:04,560 I advise him, but I'm never gonna say I don't 150 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,519 want to be that guy in the back like, oh, 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,439 you know, no, I want to say, you know, I'll 152 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,879 listen every opportunity and and and when you get to 153 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:15,800 the level that he's at, you know, Notre Dame is 154 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,120 a pretty good opportunity, right b y U is an 155 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,279 exceptional opportunity. Michigan is an exceptional opportunity. Uh, you know, 156 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:27,399 Colorado is an exceptional exceptional opportunity for a DV who 157 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:30,279 could be you know, Minford and coached by coach Prime. 158 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:33,399 So so you start looking at that. Even at the 159 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,920 Ohio States, the Florida's, they all have really great things 160 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,600 to offer. Obviously. I went to a school that had 161 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,680 great things to offer, and I think they have a 162 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,399 great thing to offer Smith and he understands that and 163 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,959 has nothing but respect for the program and the coaches. 164 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,720 So we're gonna see all it all plays out. It's 165 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:54,560 been an interesting time, so we're just he truly he 166 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,560 does not know at this time what he's going to do, 167 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,560 so we will see shortly. And I'm here for it, 168 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:01,920 you know, And that's all I can do is be 169 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,680 here for it and support it. So I see what 170 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:07,120 kind of father you're gonna be. You'll be very selfish 171 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,680 with your children of where you want them to be. 172 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:11,839 And I just don't want to do that. As much 173 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:13,399 as I want to do it, I don't want to 174 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:15,399 do it, and I've committed to not doing it. 175 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:16,519 Speaker 1: Uh. 176 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: I'm all my children will be forced to attend bring 177 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,079 Him Young Universe, even if they don't get in the 178 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,439 first time, you know, if they have to, I'm just 179 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:25,839 going to force them to be yu No. 180 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:28,759 Speaker 1: Will give me your thoughts on this though. 181 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: Tomorrio Warren cornerbacks coach, passing game coordinator. What are you 182 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,360 familiar with the Demorrio? What did you make of that 183 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,000 higher that k Pop made as the defensive coordinator at Buyu. 184 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm very excited about it. So so you know, 185 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,879 Demorrow and I had a very long relationship. I worked 186 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:50,240 with him very closely when he was at Southern Utah, 187 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:52,480 and I've worked with him very closely while he's been 188 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:56,519 at at Boise and and and there's just no one better. 189 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,960 I've been screaming for Tomrio to be on that staff longer, 190 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:06,360 longer than didn't just now. He's a brilliant coach, unbelievable developer, 191 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,159 but honestly, he's one of the greatest football minds in 192 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,159 the country. He's very, very, very smart. And when you 193 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:15,039 when we're off air, I'll talk a little bit more 194 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:18,519 about some of the things he's done. He's a devastating coordinator. 195 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,759 He has experience at every level. He's coordinated defenses, he's 196 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:25,440 been a head coach, and what people don't understand a 197 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,720 lot of times, you know, the average fan doesn't really 198 00:09:27,759 --> 00:09:30,080 get it. They don't get the level of football that's 199 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,440 being still played and coached at the one Double A level, Right, 200 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,360 they forget the Kilani coached one other play football, Kyle Whittingham, 201 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,120 the whole list. All of your grades that you've loved, 202 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:43,960 didn't start at b YU, didn't start at Utah or 203 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,200 Notre Dame. Right. These guys go up the ladder and 204 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,039 learn and implement things and then they bring it to 205 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,360 the next level. So the coaching at that level is amazing. 206 00:09:53,399 --> 00:09:57,000 But to Mario is one of the most more better coaches, 207 00:09:57,039 --> 00:10:00,960 and he's respected in his field by as Pierce. 208 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 3: Love that breakdown that only you could give Smith. As 209 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,240 far as as his position, he can play outside corner, 210 00:10:10,279 --> 00:10:12,759 he can play nickel corner, shoot, you can put him 211 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:15,440 at wide receiver as we saw this year. You can 212 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,360 tote the rock shoot, you could have him as a 213 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,240 punt returner. Does it matter where they're going to put him? 214 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,519 Does that impact where he ends up and what style 215 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,279 of play, what scheme he's going to be playing at 216 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:29,799 his next. 217 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: School to a certain extent, but not really. I mean Smith, 218 00:10:34,799 --> 00:10:36,360 one of the things that would be nice for him 219 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:41,320 to put out more outside corner reps he's really a strapper. 220 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:45,039 So usually most schools are putting their best player outside. 221 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,840 So if you go back and watch maybe the Arizona 222 00:10:47,879 --> 00:10:50,679 State film their best player, they moved him around a lot, 223 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,159 they moved him the slot, they move him outside. Really 224 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,240 want to be creative with how they get him the ball. 225 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,559 So Smith likes to be on number one. That's how 226 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:02,600 he That's what type of player he is. He's the 227 00:11:02,639 --> 00:11:05,399 type of guy who can who is really, you know, 228 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:09,679 specialized in man coverage. So I do think that will 229 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,159 make a big difference for him because if you pull 230 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,000 him up, he can probably watch five hundred and six 231 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:17,960 hundred snaps of him playing nickel. The NFL is very 232 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:22,879 aware of his ability to play inside. And now the 233 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,879 question is I'd like to put out probably four hundred 234 00:11:25,879 --> 00:11:29,039 STAPs of me playing outside corner as well, because that 235 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,679 does increase his value. 236 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:31,799 Speaker 1: Love that. 237 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,919 Speaker 3: You know, he could be a punt returner too, that's 238 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,240 how quick and how nimble he is. 239 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: Is there an opportunity there? 240 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: I know he hasn't been a punt returner uh at 241 00:11:41,759 --> 00:11:43,279 any of these schools, but I feel like that's a 242 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,600 missed opportunity as well. 243 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you look at each different each I mean 244 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,480 we can talk about the elfin room like in the room. 245 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:54,000 I mean, uh, he does have the ability to return 246 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,200 punts and kicks, but each school has different needs, right, 247 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:00,639 and Smith's the ultimate team guy. And and like you 248 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:03,240 look at BYU, we we are very high on the 249 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:06,120 return game there. We feel like they have good returners 250 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,279 and Parker is only going to continue to get better 251 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,759 at that part of his game. Obviously we know he's 252 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:15,320 a burner. He has a great feel for the for 253 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,679 making people miss and when he puts this foot in 254 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,159 the ground, he's going to get somewhere. When we talk 255 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,720 about Parker, just like Smith, so is gonna need if 256 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:25,559 he chooses BYU for him to return sponsor kicks. I 257 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,679 don't really think so. They have guys. So it might 258 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,519 be different at Michigan or it might be different at Colorado. 259 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,919 I don't know what what that situation is. It is 260 00:12:34,919 --> 00:12:39,120 something we've discussed. But Smith's main priority is to play 261 00:12:39,919 --> 00:12:43,639 defense and continue to get better on that side of 262 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,000 the ball. 263 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,039 Speaker 1: When so you're in the recruiting where you're in the 264 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,679 developing world. You you're in. 265 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: This uh, this this world that is extremely unique. When 266 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:58,799 you're discussing things with parents about position, about specialty, et cetera. 267 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,159 Speaker 1: I look at the trajectory of Smith. 268 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,519 Speaker 3: You played offense, right, Smith is a defensive specialist. Yes, 269 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,360 he played wide receiver too and did return stuff. But like, 270 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:12,120 how do you decide what position your kids get to 271 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,879 play as they grow up to maximize their skill set 272 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,679 and even nowadays maximize their earning potential. 273 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: Well, at the end of the day, the way that 274 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,799 I try into it doesn't mean I'm all very successful 275 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,039 at it. Most people really have the dispurge to touch 276 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,879 the ball right, score touchdowns and do their thing. I do. 277 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,320 Lean you know, we also organization if you go through, 278 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,720 we have all types of elite players that are playing 279 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,000 at a high level right now. But we do specialize 280 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,799 in defensive players, right. We do have a lot of 281 00:13:45,919 --> 00:13:49,240 big time defensive players all across the country. So I 282 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:52,120 do like to push people like I like to get 283 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,519 my receivers to really get serious about the defense side 284 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:57,320 of the ball. And let me give you an example. 285 00:13:57,639 --> 00:14:00,919 Go to BYUS camp this summer and watch how many 286 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,480 receivers are lined up for one on one and watch 287 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:05,399 how many corners are lined up for one on one 288 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,279 or safety it's like, oh my gosh, there's one hundred 289 00:14:08,279 --> 00:14:14,759 and fifty receivers to fifteen dvs total, So where do 290 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:18,879 you think better opportunity? So really start start looking at 291 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:21,000 those things, because if you have a highest skill set 292 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,519 at the office side of the ball playing receiver, you 293 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,799 might you might have a better opportunity as a safety 294 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,639 corner based on your measurements speed, change the direction. So 295 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,919 we try and look at everyone and give them the 296 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,320 best information we can. But still, these kids have their 297 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,759 own agency to do what they want to do, and 298 00:14:38,799 --> 00:14:40,519 all we can do is try and guide them. But 299 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,240 we do cross train. So if you're a receiver that 300 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:45,759 comes to me, we're going to still work dB stuff 301 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,440 and I'll try and get you to fall in love 302 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,519 with it. If you're a backer, you're going to work 303 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:52,879 and tight end stuff and some running back stuff. We 304 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:55,440 want you to be as versatile as possible. And that's 305 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,840 one of the things that I've seen that's really benefited Smith. 306 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:01,399 He's very versatile r and play inside corner. He can 307 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,120 play outside corner. There's tape of him playing safety, there's 308 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,159 tape of him returning kicks, there's tape of him playing offense. 309 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,639 There's tape of him taking handoffs from the backfield. That 310 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:14,200 creates a lot of value. It shows how athletic he 311 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,559 is and also more importantly, how much information he can retain. 312 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,279 Right Yeah, Yeah, that shows that he can retain a 313 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:23,919 lot of information because you're knowing a defense and all 314 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:27,320 the different coverages, all of your all your responsibilities there, 315 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,000 and then you're flipping over and knowing all your responsibilities 316 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,600 on offense, which is you know, within this day and age, 317 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:37,840 with what defenses do in fronts and coverages. It's a 318 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:38,799 lot to understand. 319 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,639 Speaker 3: Is there more earning potential as a top three wide 320 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:46,000 receiver or a top three cornerback right now? 321 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:50,159 Speaker 1: At these powerful institutions, would you say, is are they equivalent? 322 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:52,159 Speaker 3: Or is there one that is being paid more than 323 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:53,720 the other as far as position is. 324 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: Concerned, it's pretty close. But the receiver will a number 325 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,879 one receiver will probably always get a little bit money 326 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,080 more money. If you break down out got kids are 327 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,919 being paid on offensively, you're gonna go with the top 328 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,360 player is gonna be the number one quarterback obviously, and 329 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:12,039 then you're gonna go to the number one receiver and 330 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,320 your left tackle and right tackle, so that then you 331 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,639 get into the running backs. But when you have a 332 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:21,360 big time running back, so someone like, uh, the Big 333 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:23,840 twelve player of the year, you're gonna have to you know, 334 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:26,399 you have to you not have to pony up for 335 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:29,320 for that. So it also depends on what what your 336 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:33,399 offensive game plan is. If you're a run heavy team, 337 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,360 you want to make sure that you have that you 338 00:16:35,399 --> 00:16:38,240 can retain someone like LJ like b Yu has done 339 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:41,759 because he obviously is a big time star. But usually 340 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:43,879 a running back wouldn't be as much as a number 341 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:47,240 one receiver. But it's kind of from place to play. 342 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,120 So you've got quarterback, top player, defense, I mean, offensive 343 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,559 line tackles, top pay guys, top wide receiver, top back. 344 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,720 But then you start on the defensive side. You go 345 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,320 the number one highest players usually the defensive end, and 346 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,640 then your number one corner. 347 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:09,079 Speaker 3: Last thing, Yeah, no, a couple of last things here, 348 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:12,279 because I know your time's precious. Here, Will Walker, Lions 349 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:16,160 four star commits to be Yu. It's happened, it's done, 350 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,559 it is finished, it is glorious, it is beautiful. Uh, 351 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,640 tell us a little bit about Walker and the type 352 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,319 of impact he's gonna make this next year. 353 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think that Walker has the ability to come 354 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,799 in obviously, he has the talent to come in and 355 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:33,000 make a huge impact right away, and he will. Walker's prepared. 356 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,720 He's gotten very physical, which would have been a question 357 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:38,680 about him coming out of high school because he did, 358 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:40,599 you know, a lot of catching balls in high school. 359 00:17:40,599 --> 00:17:43,839 And now he's moved moved over to the big leagues 360 00:17:43,839 --> 00:17:46,559 and he had to really get effective at blocking. And 361 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,000 he's become very very physical at the at the at 362 00:17:50,039 --> 00:17:54,039 the point of attack, so's he's dangerous in the trench. 363 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,359 But more importantly, Walker can run like a gazelle. He 364 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,000 really can run. So he runs good routes as off hands. 365 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,640 He is a I mean, that's a probably that's a 366 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,599 really big get for them, especially as much as creative 367 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,680 as as a Rod is. With getting the Titan the brow. 368 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:14,240 We saw how effective their tit end was this year 369 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:17,839 who came over from Utah, Carson Ryan. He was effective. 370 00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:20,680 He had a great season, probably put himself in a 371 00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:24,519 good good spot as far as the NFL is concerned. 372 00:18:24,519 --> 00:18:27,359 People had to see how effective he was and might 373 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,359 expect him to do the same thing with Walker, maybe 374 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,680 take it even to the next level. 375 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:34,279 Speaker 1: We'll always appreciate our time. 376 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: For those that are tuning in that have kids that 377 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:38,920 are recruitable, they want to get developed, they want to 378 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,160 be a part of a great organization that can help 379 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,359 place them at the next level. How can they get 380 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,680 a hold of you? How can they align themselves with 381 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,680 Alpha Recruits? 382 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,519 Speaker 2: Well, you can go to Alpha recruits dot com, send 383 00:18:50,519 --> 00:18:54,680 an email, we'll evaluate your kid. More importantly, we're spending 384 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,960 so alpharecruit dot com. Also, you can follow me on 385 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,000 Twitter which is Alpha Recruits fifteen, or you can just 386 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:03,720 type in my name and you'll see some funny things 387 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:06,240 on there from me. But the main thing is promoting 388 00:19:06,319 --> 00:19:10,160 kids and you know, trying to trying to be one 389 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,799 with the people. 390 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,039 Speaker 1: And but stop fighting. 391 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: Will I don't fight. I'll I do not fight with anyone. 392 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,359 I'll laugh at people or you know, it's very interesting. Uh. 393 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,079 I love to hear people's uh evaluations on major power 394 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:29,880 for football players and they have the right to do that, 395 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,119 and I have the right to get or or you know, 396 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,640 ask them questions. So I'm having fun with it. But 397 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,480 we're we're blessed and way too blessed to be stressed out. 398 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,640 We're trying to just just just make tough decisions right now, 399 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,680 but we're gonna realize more importantly that the hard work 400 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,640 that Smith has put in and that our family has 401 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,680 put in has paid some major dividends for him, and 402 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,799 we're just gonna stay humble with it all and keep 403 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:55,400 moving forward. 404 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,319 Speaker 3: Much love to you and your family. Always appreciated, Tom, 405 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,839 I always learned something from you. Will. Thanks for joining 406 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,559 us today and giving us an update on your world 407 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:05,839 and commenting on some of these key hires as well 408 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,519 as some key acquisitions as well. 409 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,319 Speaker 2: Thanks Will, God bless you guys. Have a great night, Diego. 410 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:15,839 Speaker 3: This's Will Snowden, a great segment brought to you by 411 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,119 all of our sponsors. Guys, we can't do our show 412 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,720 without our sponsors. 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