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Will Snowton on the line, will how you living?
Speaker 2: You live? Oh man, I'm I'm blessed and tired.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: How many?
Speaker 3: How many hours of sleep do you get during this season?
On average is like two three hours a night.
Speaker 2: It's been pretty crazy. This one has been a little
bit crazy. More crazy because I'm traveling with with my son, yeah,
and working at the same time. So it's been I
think I talcolated this week by last night really did
help me. But this week I've probably slept twenty four
hours maybe in five days. I don't know, maybe twenty hours.
I mean last night was the one big one. But
it's been crazy. I'm having these crazy flights going, you know,
across the country too, so we're leaving at three o'clock
in the morning to catch a five thirty flight or
a six o'clock flight. So it's been absolutely crazy. I
was telling my wife, I really need to start logging
this or you know whatever, just so people can be
shocked at how much I'm on the phone, how annoying
it is, how it causes problems in my family because
I'm always on the phone. It's a lot. It really
is a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh man, well, we appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Look at me now, and now look at me now
on the phone again.
Speaker 1: I forced him, I mean we forced him.
Speaker 3: We're twisting his arm and he doesn't have time for us,
but he's gonna make some time for us.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Will Yeah, Like, you know, how many different trips have
you guys taken out? How many different schools have you
guys taken a look at? And how many more schools
do you guys have on the list for Smith to
take a look at.
Speaker 2: We're down to the final week. I mean this week
we have disregarding Smith. Now, remember I have a lot
of clients that I worked with, So we finished up
a lot of clients this week, and I still have
plenty of work to do. I s have high school
kids to place and the college landscape is just so crazy, Ben,
as you know. But this week we were at you know,
we had we were at the University of Colorado, we
were at b y U, we were at Michigan, we
were at Notre Dame, and we're still going to be
at Oregon. So that's five schools that we've been on
the campus I've been at. You know, we've been contacted
by everyone from Florida, Ohio State, t c U, Old
Myth So we didn't have a trip that we were
going to go on to Old Myths, but Dot got canceled. Georgia.
We canceled the trip to Georgia. We were supposed to
be at Georgia yesterday but went to Notre Dame instead.
So it's been it's been pretty crazy for Smith and
he's got a really tough decision to make with these
unbelievable opportunities.
Speaker 1: Uh, do you guys have a timeline?
Speaker 3: Just Smith had a timeline that you're aware of that
he wants to make his decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to make it as soon as possible.
I'm hoping that he can he can have things tied
down by the end of this weekend for sure, so
by Sunday. But I would be doing the Hallelujah dance
if he told me now or told me, you know, tomorrow,
would be great. So we'll see what he's gonna do.
But he has a lot of great opportunities and and
he really can't go wrong with any of them, with
any of the schools that's he's dealing with.
Speaker 1: Are are you and your better half?
Speaker 3: Who's by the way, phenomenal at decorating during Christmas?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I was not familiar with her game. Well, I appreciate
you sending me over that. She's very good, very good indeed,
and my wife was like, oh my gosh, this is fantastic.
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, she's one of the one she's
one of the more respected people in the country. What
she does, she's very good. So I wanted to let
you know because you were giving me a bit of teas.
So we are very fas at the Snowdon house. My
wife takes care of that and and so all of
our kids are really into it. I came from a
family that was kind of you know, you know, nothing special,
and now I came to a place where I married
a woman who's just so amazing and her whole family
is amazing at what they do. So I'm really into it.
So you will never outfestive me.
Speaker 1: Very Christmas happy, do your to the snows And he
got black Jesus and black Santa. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I proagnostia. I was talking to Will.
I was like, I was like, wait, like I have
a theory. You got you got at least you got
a black Jesus and black Santa in your decording.
Speaker 1: You're not.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'll send you the video and lo behold.
Yes indeed with a fist up, no less. I loved it,
loved every minute though.
Speaker 2: There was no fisth there's no you had you you
have a brown Fanta because in our house there's there
we we we try and be very inclusive, uh, with
what's going on in the world. So also, if you
come here, you can be educated on a lot of things,
but more importantly, your eyes will be wowed by what.
Speaker 1: It's seeing, no doubt about.
Speaker 2: Beautiful sounds and also the beautiful sounds that are playing
through the house.
Speaker 3: Well to that, to that point, right, the festivities, the
culture there at the snow and family within the Snow family.
Speaker 1: You guys don't want to.
Speaker 3: Be traveling around the country every single week for Will's
for Smith's games, do you.
Speaker 2: Uh, well, you know, uh, that'site. I see what you're
doing there, and I do hear you and what I've
committed to doing. And but but me and my wife
said from the beginning when Smith started this conversation, is
that we will not be selfish. So we're trying, We're
we are not going to be selfish. And uh, as
much as we would love to be selfish, we're not
going to We're going to let him look at these
situations and opportunities and make the decision based on what
he thinks is best for him in his future. Obviously
I advise him, but I'm never gonna say I don't
want to be that guy in the back like, oh,
you know, no, I want to say, you know, I'll
listen every opportunity and and and when you get to
the level that he's at, you know, Notre Dame is
a pretty good opportunity, right b y U is an
exceptional opportunity. Michigan is an exceptional opportunity. Uh, you know,
Colorado is an exceptional exceptional opportunity for a DV who
could be you know, Minford and coached by coach Prime.
So so you start looking at that. Even at the
Ohio States, the Florida's, they all have really great things
to offer. Obviously. I went to a school that had
great things to offer, and I think they have a
great thing to offer Smith and he understands that and
has nothing but respect for the program and the coaches.
So we're gonna see all it all plays out. It's
been an interesting time, so we're just he truly he
does not know at this time what he's going to do,
so we will see shortly. And I'm here for it,
you know, And that's all I can do is be
here for it and support it. So I see what
kind of father you're gonna be. You'll be very selfish
with your children of where you want them to be.
And I just don't want to do that. As much
as I want to do it, I don't want to
do it, and I've committed to not doing it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I'm all my children will be forced to attend bring
Him Young Universe, even if they don't get in the
first time, you know, if they have to, I'm just
going to force them to be yu No.
Speaker 1: Will give me your thoughts on this though.
Speaker 3: Tomorrio Warren cornerbacks coach, passing game coordinator. What are you
familiar with the Demorrio? What did you make of that
higher that k Pop made as the defensive coordinator at Buyu.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm very excited about it. So so you know,
Demorrow and I had a very long relationship. I worked
with him very closely when he was at Southern Utah,
and I've worked with him very closely while he's been
at at Boise and and and there's just no one better.
I've been screaming for Tomrio to be on that staff longer,
longer than didn't just now. He's a brilliant coach, unbelievable developer,
but honestly, he's one of the greatest football minds in
the country. He's very, very, very smart. And when you
when we're off air, I'll talk a little bit more
about some of the things he's done. He's a devastating coordinator.
He has experience at every level. He's coordinated defenses, he's
been a head coach, and what people don't understand a
lot of times, you know, the average fan doesn't really
get it. They don't get the level of football that's
being still played and coached at the one Double A level, Right,
they forget the Kilani coached one other play football, Kyle Whittingham,
the whole list. All of your grades that you've loved,
didn't start at b YU, didn't start at Utah or
Notre Dame. Right. These guys go up the ladder and
learn and implement things and then they bring it to
the next level. So the coaching at that level is amazing.
But to Mario is one of the most more better coaches,
and he's respected in his field by as Pierce.
Speaker 3: Love that breakdown that only you could give Smith. As
far as as his position, he can play outside corner,
he can play nickel corner, shoot, you can put him
at wide receiver as we saw this year. You can
tote the rock shoot, you could have him as a
punt returner. Does it matter where they're going to put him?
Does that impact where he ends up and what style
of play, what scheme he's going to be playing at
his next.
Speaker 2: School to a certain extent, but not really. I mean Smith,
one of the things that would be nice for him
to put out more outside corner reps he's really a strapper.
So usually most schools are putting their best player outside.
So if you go back and watch maybe the Arizona
State film their best player, they moved him around a lot,
they moved him the slot, they move him outside. Really
want to be creative with how they get him the ball.
So Smith likes to be on number one. That's how
he That's what type of player he is. He's the
type of guy who can who is really, you know,
specialized in man coverage. So I do think that will
make a big difference for him because if you pull
him up, he can probably watch five hundred and six
hundred snaps of him playing nickel. The NFL is very
aware of his ability to play inside. And now the
question is I'd like to put out probably four hundred
STAPs of me playing outside corner as well, because that
does increase his value.
Speaker 1: Love that.
Speaker 3: You know, he could be a punt returner too, that's
how quick and how nimble he is.
Speaker 1: Is there an opportunity there?
Speaker 3: I know he hasn't been a punt returner uh at
any of these schools, but I feel like that's a
missed opportunity as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you look at each different each I mean
we can talk about the elfin room like in the room.
I mean, uh, he does have the ability to return
punts and kicks, but each school has different needs, right,
and Smith's the ultimate team guy. And and like you
look at BYU, we we are very high on the
return game there. We feel like they have good returners
and Parker is only going to continue to get better
at that part of his game. Obviously we know he's
a burner. He has a great feel for the for
making people miss and when he puts this foot in
the ground, he's going to get somewhere. When we talk
about Parker, just like Smith, so is gonna need if
he chooses BYU for him to return sponsor kicks. I
don't really think so. They have guys. So it might
be different at Michigan or it might be different at Colorado.
I don't know what what that situation is. It is
something we've discussed. But Smith's main priority is to play
defense and continue to get better on that side of
the ball.
Speaker 1: When so you're in the recruiting where you're in the
developing world. You you're in.
Speaker 3: This uh, this this world that is extremely unique. When
you're discussing things with parents about position, about specialty, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I look at the trajectory of Smith.
Speaker 3: You played offense, right, Smith is a defensive specialist. Yes,
he played wide receiver too and did return stuff. But like,
how do you decide what position your kids get to
play as they grow up to maximize their skill set
and even nowadays maximize their earning potential.
Speaker 2: Well, at the end of the day, the way that
I try into it doesn't mean I'm all very successful
at it. Most people really have the dispurge to touch
the ball right, score touchdowns and do their thing. I do.
Lean you know, we also organization if you go through,
we have all types of elite players that are playing
at a high level right now. But we do specialize
in defensive players, right. We do have a lot of
big time defensive players all across the country. So I
do like to push people like I like to get
my receivers to really get serious about the defense side
of the ball. And let me give you an example.
Go to BYUS camp this summer and watch how many
receivers are lined up for one on one and watch
how many corners are lined up for one on one
or safety it's like, oh my gosh, there's one hundred
and fifty receivers to fifteen dvs total, So where do
you think better opportunity? So really start start looking at
those things, because if you have a highest skill set
at the office side of the ball playing receiver, you
might you might have a better opportunity as a safety
corner based on your measurements speed, change the direction. So
we try and look at everyone and give them the
best information we can. But still, these kids have their
own agency to do what they want to do, and
all we can do is try and guide them. But
we do cross train. So if you're a receiver that
comes to me, we're going to still work dB stuff
and I'll try and get you to fall in love
with it. If you're a backer, you're going to work
and tight end stuff and some running back stuff. We
want you to be as versatile as possible. And that's
one of the things that I've seen that's really benefited Smith.
He's very versatile r and play inside corner. He can
play outside corner. There's tape of him playing safety, there's
tape of him returning kicks, there's tape of him playing offense.
There's tape of him taking handoffs from the backfield. That
creates a lot of value. It shows how athletic he
is and also more importantly, how much information he can retain.
Right Yeah, Yeah, that shows that he can retain a
lot of information because you're knowing a defense and all
the different coverages, all of your all your responsibilities there,
and then you're flipping over and knowing all your responsibilities
on offense, which is you know, within this day and age,
with what defenses do in fronts and coverages. It's a
lot to understand.
Speaker 3: Is there more earning potential as a top three wide
receiver or a top three cornerback right now?
Speaker 1: At these powerful institutions, would you say, is are they equivalent?
Speaker 3: Or is there one that is being paid more than
the other as far as position is.
Speaker 2: Concerned, it's pretty close. But the receiver will a number
one receiver will probably always get a little bit money
more money. If you break down out got kids are
being paid on offensively, you're gonna go with the top
player is gonna be the number one quarterback obviously, and
then you're gonna go to the number one receiver and
your left tackle and right tackle, so that then you
get into the running backs. But when you have a
big time running back, so someone like, uh, the Big
twelve player of the year, you're gonna have to you know,
you have to you not have to pony up for
for that. So it also depends on what what your
offensive game plan is. If you're a run heavy team,
you want to make sure that you have that you
can retain someone like LJ like b Yu has done
because he obviously is a big time star. But usually
a running back wouldn't be as much as a number
one receiver. But it's kind of from place to play.
So you've got quarterback, top player, defense, I mean, offensive
line tackles, top pay guys, top wide receiver, top back.
But then you start on the defensive side. You go
the number one highest players usually the defensive end, and
then your number one corner.
Speaker 3: Last thing, Yeah, no, a couple of last things here,
because I know your time's precious. Here, Will Walker, Lions
four star commits to be Yu. It's happened, it's done,
it is finished, it is glorious, it is beautiful. Uh,
tell us a little bit about Walker and the type
of impact he's gonna make this next year.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that Walker has the ability to come
in obviously, he has the talent to come in and
make a huge impact right away, and he will. Walker's prepared.
He's gotten very physical, which would have been a question
about him coming out of high school because he did,
you know, a lot of catching balls in high school.
And now he's moved moved over to the big leagues
and he had to really get effective at blocking. And
he's become very very physical at the at the at
the point of attack, so's he's dangerous in the trench.
But more importantly, Walker can run like a gazelle. He
really can run. So he runs good routes as off hands.
He is a I mean, that's a probably that's a
really big get for them, especially as much as creative
as as a Rod is. With getting the Titan the brow.
We saw how effective their tit end was this year
who came over from Utah, Carson Ryan. He was effective.
He had a great season, probably put himself in a
good good spot as far as the NFL is concerned.
People had to see how effective he was and might
expect him to do the same thing with Walker, maybe
take it even to the next level.
Speaker 1: We'll always appreciate our time.
Speaker 3: For those that are tuning in that have kids that
are recruitable, they want to get developed, they want to
be a part of a great organization that can help
place them at the next level. How can they get
a hold of you? How can they align themselves with
Alpha Recruits?
Speaker 2: Well, you can go to Alpha recruits dot com, send
an email, we'll evaluate your kid. More importantly, we're spending
so alpharecruit dot com. Also, you can follow me on
Twitter which is Alpha Recruits fifteen, or you can just
type in my name and you'll see some funny things
on there from me. But the main thing is promoting
kids and you know, trying to trying to be one
with the people.
Speaker 1: And but stop fighting.
Speaker 2: Will I don't fight. I'll I do not fight with anyone.
I'll laugh at people or you know, it's very interesting. Uh.
I love to hear people's uh evaluations on major power
for football players and they have the right to do that,
and I have the right to get or or you know,
ask them questions. So I'm having fun with it. But
we're we're blessed and way too blessed to be stressed out.
We're trying to just just just make tough decisions right now,
but we're gonna realize more importantly that the hard work
that Smith has put in and that our family has
put in has paid some major dividends for him, and
we're just gonna stay humble with it all and keep
moving forward.
Speaker 3: Much love to you and your family. Always appreciated, Tom,
I always learned something from you. Will. Thanks for joining
us today and giving us an update on your world
and commenting on some of these key hires as well
as some key acquisitions as well.
Speaker 2: Thanks Will, God bless you guys. Have a great night, Diego.
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