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are we doing today, brother? Happy Friday, Happy Friday. I'm

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happy that we're at the weekends. We got to get

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a big weekend coming up with lots of NCAA tournament action.

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Speaker 5: I'm fired up, though, Ron, Like, this is the most

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fired up I think I've been in a while. Because

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if I tell you something is going to happen, and

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and you didn't listen. Then I have an issue. And

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the Big Twelve everyone and their mama tried to tell

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you that this was an issue, and you were rude

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enough to let the women play through. You didn't care

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You have a large sample size. You didn't test this

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Speaker 6: I got a whole bunch of diet tribes.

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Speaker 5: So liloqueis and monologues to go on as we get

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Speaker 6: But I'm happy to be here, not happy with Brett,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a lot to get into today, like

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right now. But crazy because yesterday this was the statement

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from the commissioner of the Big Twelve. What Brett just said,

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the led court of the glass court is gone. It

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was taken out last night. Brett, I think you have

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some information of about what Matt Norlander was told. We'll

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that statement from Big Twelve Commissioner Brett you or Mark quote.

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stage this week, and we will transition to a hardwood

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to a great semi finals and championship game. Close quote Brett,

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here for trying new things. I understand that you can't

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bat a thousand, but you know what you also can't do.

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you know, somehow I'm gonna hit a home run, Like

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to trying to get on base. And this thing never

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had a shot of getting on base because you were

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always running the risk of player safety.

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Speaker 6: Now when the decision was actually made.

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Speaker 5: Matt Orlander of CBS Sports was on his podcast this

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morning and said that he was told yesterday by the

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Big Twelve because he had so. He was on CBS

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the time he said, I'm gonna go ask around because

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asked around. Then yesterday, the Big Twelve came to Matt

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skating and said, hey, we've made the decision. We're gonna

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company that made the court, of him talking about how

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it's actually safer for the players and it's better on

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their joints, and this, that and the other thing. This

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a number of reasons. First of all, they are not

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acknowledging that Christian Anderson was hurt in any relation. I

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don't know this. I don't want to put anything on

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the Big twelve. My guess would be is because if

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you did, you would admit fault, and if that ever

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came up in a lawsuit, it would be public.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that's why.

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Speaker 5: But what I do know is Brett or Mark has

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today and neither time have they even really said player safety.

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number of coaches who said Tommy Lloyd said, we'll play

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on asphalt with double rims, which I don't know if

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shoutout Ton on that one. So they aren't even admitting

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what it looks like today is that you took.

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Speaker 6: Money over player safety.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure Brett Rmark in the Big Twelve Conference didn't

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want anyone to get hurt. I don't think that was

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their intent. But clearly this was not player tested. And

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you know that for a number of reasons. A because

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anyone who have been able to test it at a

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high level is playing basketball right now, whether it be NBA,

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college basketball, whatever, so they couldn't come in and test it.

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you know that it's safe. And the pushback is, well,

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the EuroLeague uses it, and the NBA All Star Game

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used it. Okay, first of all, NBA All Star Game,

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we know they're not pushing that hard, so they're not

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trying as hard, that they're not putting as much stress

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on their joints as they would be if they're playing

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in a Big twelve championship issue Number two with the

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euro League, they're playing on those courts every single night

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their bodies have adjusted to It would be like playing

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a full season on turf and then playing your Big

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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter if both ones are technically safe.

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Speaker 5: Either way, you're setting up a safety issue because the

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body is not adjusted. The other issue where the Big

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about this last week, and so now what it looks

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like is, well, you didn't care when the women's teams complained,

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so now that the men's teams have complained, it's, oh,

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you know what, We're gonna fix that right quick for you.

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And again, I like the Big Twelve conference. I like

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a lot of the innovation. I think they do a

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lot of smart things, and I'm not even hating on

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I get you can't bat a thousand, but you risked

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player safety and you now look kind of sexist, irrespective

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of if you are or not.

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Speaker 6: We're also not even talking about the fact that there

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Speaker 5: Who were saying I'm getting migraines from this, which if

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anyone ever grew up like we have all those images

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of kids with their feet with their face two feet

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I just I have so many questions and I don't

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it looks really bad because it looks like you were

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willing to take more money in exchange for risking player safety.

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Speaker 3: Definitely looks like that, for sure. I appreciate all of

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your comments. You wonder, uh, look, he's over two with

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courts last year it wasn't esthetically pleasing on TV. You

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have to wonder if he wanted to give the viewers

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a better opportunity to see it, but it wasn't tested.

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Player safety is the biggest thing. I'm glad they got

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it right in the end because Christian Anderson and all

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American who I will believe. If he can't go, that

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is not good and the Big Twelve is responsible for that.

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We will see check out the rest of our ESPN.

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gonna actually play a clip from Pat McAfee with him

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on the show brett Or Mark about the court, and

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we get into that a little bit. Then we'll get

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into some postgame comments from Kevin Young Bau did not

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advance to the semi final against Uston. They lost, but

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is that a good or a bad thing. We'll discuss

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that later in our question today. Laine Alo, the owner

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the weight room but making place. We'll get it caught

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to tell us about why they change the chord and

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a little bit and about why an age of debons

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and then Chancer Johnson joined us at five thirty to

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close out the show. Sam will join us from eight

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to one. Bracketology, is BYU a six seed? And if

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they are, are they going to Portland? And if they

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get matched up Wiggins zagat is that the best three

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seed that they could do to get to the sweet sixteen?

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I firmly believe with the way BYU is playing right now,

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they could be back in the sweet sixteen. That's they're stealing.

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I won't go higher than that, but we'll talk to

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Sam and see what he has. At five oh five,

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without further ado, let's go ahead and get back into

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our starting lineup. Welcome in the face and the host

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of the show. We got Big Krital back in studio.

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Been how we're doing?

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Speaker 6: Guys are back, baby.

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Speaker 4: Look. I love my team because you know, in my

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life there's a lot of things going on and I

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gotta be able to rely on fantastic teammates like you,

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roddy As and it's especially Brett always bringing the hammer

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so I appreciate you guys tipping off the show for us.

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Uh yeah, five ft eleven hundred and eighty five pounds

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can maybe possibly run a five flat forty Maybe. I

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don't know still if I'm still capable of that. But

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it's great. It's a great day to be a Cougar.

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It's great to be on the show with you fine

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gentlemen today. And look, is this a blessing in disguise

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that BYU men's basketball lost this?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 4: It is. It's the silver lining of it all that

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they are playing really good basketball right now. The fact

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that aj did agent didn't even touch the ball in

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the last five minutes? Right? Was that?

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Speaker 7: What thing? So like?

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Speaker 3: I don't like?

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Speaker 4: It felt like a Jackson Robinson lesson. Ye remember when

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Jackson Ronson in the NCAA tournament versus Dushane and the

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fighting Lebron James shoe you know, because Lebron gave him

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all shoes before the tip off, and I'm like, all,

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we're gonna lose. We're gonna lose cause Lebron is It

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went viral with giving Shane basketball shoes, like he didn't

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touch the ball in the last like six minutes and

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we lost that game because Jackson Robinson wasn't getting the touches.

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We lost this game because aj Debonson wasn't getting touches.

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Our best player, the number one overall pick, and that

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is unfortunate. It just is. But guess what the silver

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lining is. We get to rest up, hewl up, get

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ready to actually play on a real basketball court in

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the NCAA tournament. Most likely I'm feeling it in Portland,

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maybe taking on Miami Ohio, maybe taking on the three

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seed Gonzaga after that, and getting to back to back

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Sweet sixteens. We've never done it before, ladies and gentlemen.

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But the way the form of the fashion this boay

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men's basketball team is playing right now, they are playing

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like a Sweet sixteen team. How do I know that

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Houston is an Elite eight team. Houston is most likely

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an Elite eight team with the potential to be a

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Final four team. So if you're playing head to head

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like that versus an Elite eight team, at least okay,

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you can make it to a Sweet sixteen in my opinion,

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So I'm feeling pretty good. I'm feeling pretty I would

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say optimistic about BYU Man's basketball right now, and shout

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out to Brett or Mark for finally changing the floor too.

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I know you guys went off on a diet drive

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to start off to tip off the show, and it

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is much needed. Now, what should Brett have done? Like,

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where could we have trialed this particular court. I know

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the due diligence was supposedly done overseas, right, and you

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had that study, you had it on the NBA, you

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know All Star court, right? But is that enough? Was

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that enough to validate the jump to the led glass.

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Speaker 5: Floor someone else had mentioned I'm glad you bring up

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this point. I saw somebody on barstool today talking about how,

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like experiments are not new in college basketball.

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Speaker 6: Remember when we used.

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Speaker 5: To have the game's play on an air Force carrier. Look,

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it didn't work. The idea of it was really cool,

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but like it didn't work. It's cool to try experiments.

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This feels like something you would do maybe in a

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non con game or like one of those mid season tournaments.

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I'd be good with that, but it is really odd

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that the first time you want to run this out

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is during Big twelve championship tournament. That feels like you're

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running some risks and I said it this morning, like,

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there's no way that this was player tested. There is

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no way the Big Twelve had their own survey and

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their own data of players playing on it. A because

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who would you have gotten and B had you run

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your own players on this court, they would have told you,

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hey man, this is a little bit slippery.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now if they had, maybe they did do that. And

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if they did that, they were told its slippery and

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they ran it out. Anyway, when we found that out,

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it's even worse. But it just makes it really hard

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for me to believe that you truly play or tested

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this because if you had, you would have known about

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all these issues before you got to the Big Twelve tournament.

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Speaker 4: So where could you have in a economical way gone

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through the proof of concept where you got proper feedback?

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Does that make sense? Like? And I don't know where

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you would have done it at, because it's not like

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you have like, uh, like a high school basketball tournament

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that you'd put put it on, like you know what

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I mean? Like, I don't know where you would have

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done it at. Do you give a practice floor? Can

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you have a practice floor like installed somewhere where you're

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you know what I mean like.

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Speaker 6: Installing one right now. That's not a yeah, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean though, It's like, and I'm so

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I understand, like he is a he is an individual

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Brett you or Mark always thinking outside the box. He's

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he's an individual that's always pressing the envelope. But this one,

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this one flopped, man, this one really was. It could

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be devastating to the big token Christian because Christian Anderson's

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groin injury. It could be devastating and it's unfortunate, it

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really is. And there's a liability issue here too. You

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wonder it's like did the guy sign off on playing

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on this slippery floor? And is their lawsuits on the

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back end. We'll get to it here on your Utah

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ESPN Radio network. So got a great show for you.

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Uh you already mentioned the nitty gritty and or excuse

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me all the starting Lineuphy, don't we get into the

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nitty gritty and get into some of this post game sound.

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It's a silver lining type of show. It's a silver

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lining type of day. Let's get into the post game

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and you know what, celebrate. This is the first time

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get into some postgame sounds, shall we. BYU almost got

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the victory, and you would never hear me celebrate and

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almost got the victory, you know, on our show sixty

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six seventy three, the Cougars are now twenty three and

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eleven on the season, the Houston Cougars end up twenty

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seven and five. They are going moving on to the

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semi final. We wish them luckily, wish them well and

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luckily for them they don't have to play on the

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glass floor led floor anymore. But let's find out what

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maybe the silver linings are right now, what key wise

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takeaways were from this game? From this outing Kevin Young's

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opening statement post game after falling to the Houston Cougars.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, credit to Houston. They played a good game. They

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deserve to win. They made the plays when that were

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necessary down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we you know, when you.

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Speaker 7: Play Houston, you got to you got to keep the

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possession game pretty close.

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Speaker 4: That you can.

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Speaker 7: You know, there are too many offensive rebounds down a stretch.

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You know, turned this over too much, and we turned

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them over as well. But that was really a story.

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And then and then Fleming's a special player, made big play.

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Speaker 4: So give them credit. Yeah, Kingston's a nice he is

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very nice. Ronald. Let's let's pontificate a little bit on this.

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We know how good. Uh you know Kingston is we

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know how good good? You know Tuglar Eves and there's

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foul trouble early on. We were discussing in the post game, uh,

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you know over at the house at the crib, just

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what should have happened. Uh, even though it's a silver

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lining and I'm glad, I'm kind of glad, b why

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you actually lost to the Houston Cougars. I know there's

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a lot of people that'd be like one of Judo

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chopped me to the throat, right, but like we couldn't

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get better. I don't think we would had to win

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the NC. We would have had to win the Big

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twelve tournament in order to get a five seed. Yeah,

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we would have to win it all like, and I

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just so, I'd rather just take the sixth seed and

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most likely you may be heading to Portland because you

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may be that last sixth seed and that actually is

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quite fortuitous. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Anyway, let's

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talk about if we did want to actually win this game,

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what we would have done. Ronald.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mentioned the tia and I told

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Bread this morning. I had a lot of thoughts last

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night because that's just how it is after I think

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the former you know player haven't played sports like man,

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just watching it. When Houston gets in foul trouble like that. Man,

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if you had told me Kingston Fleming would have four,

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Tugler would have four, Emmanuel Sharp would have three. By

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you shoots over forty percent, Ben from three and from

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the field, I'd be like, oh, Houston's dead to right,

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no doubt. But no, by you shot nine to twenty

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eight in the second half, shot out the AJM brick

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and Kevin Durant scoring record for the most of the

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tournament in three games, shot out to him with that.

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But I think the biggest thing, and I got confirmation

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is Jackson Pain of the Desert News has been on

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our show and he said I can bring up his

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take again. Byu doesn't have a feost. They don't have.

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You gotta have scoring in the post, Ben, and they

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don't have the When I look at what Tugler did,

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when I look at what Sanak Junior did, and I

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look at Caba Mahilo and hadem not good enough, Like

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it's not like it is. Kaba had eight points, thirteen boards, right,

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he did he did well. He didn't play terrible in

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the moments, but losing offensive rebounds, b Doo comes in

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being Abdullah like. I mean, when you're losing rebounds and

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frankfrs Schilla is yelling on the broadcast of like, b

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Doo can't let that happen. He's got to be stronger,

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he'd like Kevin Young just mentioned too many offensive rebounds

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down the stretch, and I thought the reason why they

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lost the game was the bigs. I know that they

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ran out of legs, you know, playing three days in

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three nights. But when you have a post player, Ben,

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when you can work through the posts, that allows Rob to,

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you know, relax a little bit, That allows AJ to

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relax it because what was Aj doing?

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Speaker 4: Ben?

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Speaker 3: What if I criticized AJ for all the time I

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put it on Twitter, I'm not gonna run from it.

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It's trying to draw outs sometimes, trying to get the

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whistle when things aren't going and some of those warfowles.

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I don't want to act like they're not, But when

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the officials aren't giving you the calls, Ben, what do

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you say? You say this in football you gotta jest right,

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and they don't. So that's my only criticism. And look,

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when he gets to the NBA, he's going to get those.

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But all of that couple with is when AJ's doing

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that and Rob isn't getting that, and they can't get

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00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,799
to the free throw line. To slow the game down,

476
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,000
you need a post play, you need it back to

477
00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:41,920
the basket big and they haven't really had that. And

478
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,039
I look, Ben, I know, I want to change my

479
00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:45,839
take from a couple of weeks ago. I said, you know,

480
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,920
Dalla Hall, we said, Trevor Neil More what mag No,

481
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,359
it's fustraire. If Fus was on this team, he would

482
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,319
be able to give him the paints touches that they

483
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,240
need to slow down. He was not a bad passer

484
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,319
out of the paint either, being Cape's not the passer

485
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,640
that Fus was. And Abdullah is just nowhere near passing.

486
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,640
Don't even let him touch the ball. But I thought

487
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,799
that's what happened. I thought Tugler and Sanak and their

488
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:07,599
bigs completely controlled the glass and dominated the big man game,

489
00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:09,119
and it was a struggle for Kiba to be out

490
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,160
there alone. And then Mahai Loo hadem and beat who

491
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,079
just didn't give enough. And when you're playing a top

492
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,839
ten defense like Houston, all of those guys have to

493
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,559
contribute over last one of them, and they just they

494
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:20,839
came out short. But it's okay. I think they'll learn.

495
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,720
That's the best they played Houston, ben since they've been

496
00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:24,720
in a conference. Like for the fact that they had

497
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,160
the lead at halftime, I would not have predicted that,

498
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:29,000
But tip of the cap to it. They they didn't

499
00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:31,119
quit there in a third iteration, but that's why they

500
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,960
lost the game. To give you my analysis, I thought

501
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,000
the bigs last night and collectively let them down.

502
00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:41,039
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, great breakdown, Kevin Uh you brought up turnovers

503
00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:44,759
triple the amount of turners you guys had against Houston

504
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:48,079
the first go around. What was Houston doing so well?

505
00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:52,240
Was it self inflicted or was the just the issue

506
00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:53,799
just just turning the ball over?

507
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, some of it we were, you know, we were

508
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,200
driving in the crowds for sure. But I'll just cut

509
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,039
to the chase right of the gate. AJ took ten

510
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359
free throws. Rob Wright took four, and I don't ever

511
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,519
go there. And and again Houston beat U Stone cold

512
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:10,240
beat they.

513
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 4: Won the game.

514
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 7: AJ should have shot twenty free throws minimum in that game.

515
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Rob Bright only shoots four free throws, Guy drives every

516
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,000
time and then Sharp shoots ten. And I'm not saying

517
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,559
the officials were like, oh, we're gonna give Houston.

518
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,039
Speaker 4: Calls and not be ware.

519
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,799
Speaker 7: I'm not suggesting that in any form for fashion. I

520
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:28,559
thought they flat out misscalls, bottom line, and that led

521
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,039
us some turnovers, that led us some frustration, and so

522
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,039
that's disappointing, you know. And again I think to your

523
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,599
actual question of the turnovers, yeah, I mean just we

524
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,039
drove into a crowd too much.

525
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 4: Minimum. He leaned in, like like when you stutter, when

526
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:55,799
you lean into the mic and you you enunciate minimum minimum.

527
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,880
You heard every single valve there. You heard every single

528
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,599
consonant minimum. It means a little bit more agree or

529
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,160
disagree with his assessment. Brent always bring in the Hammer

530
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,000
Hammer time show.

531
00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:11,759
Speaker 5: I love that he said, I'm just gonna go there, Like,

532
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,000
So what that means is he knew he wanted to

533
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:17,119
say this. He was just waiting for someone to ask

534
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,680
the right question for him to give that answer. I

535
00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,079
do agree. I actually saw some tweets from national people

536
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,400
who hadn't watched a lot of YU games where they're like,

537
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,160
why are they swallowing the whistle with AJ like, is

538
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,160
it like this every time?

539
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 6: They haven't watched a lot of BYU, And I'm like, yep, look.

540
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 5: I think of this. This issue is twofold, right. Number

541
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:40,839
one is the Big twelve. They let you play a

542
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:47,160
little bit, but number two to combat that is the

543
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,400
Big twelve refs. I don't want to say have an ego,

544
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,160
but I will say they take pride in their job.

545
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,000
And I think what you've seen, not just in college

546
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:58,079
but in basketball as a whole, as you've seen players

547
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,319
trying to take advantage of getting to the free throw line,

548
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:05,440
playing disingenuous basketball. I'm talking about Oklahoma City. You're finding

549
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,519
out that it's better metric wise, it's more efficient for

550
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,359
you to get to the free throw line. So what

551
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,240
do you do. You find ways to exaggerate certain things

552
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,000
because you know you have a higher percent chance of

553
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,519
getting points if you get to the line. AJ, through

554
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,119
a lot of this season said I'm gonna find ways

555
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,000
to get myself to the line, and maybe at the

556
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,400
beginning it worked, but part of the way through the season,

557
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,880
the Big twelve refs, I'm assuming got together at some

558
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,359
point and said, look, we cannot just let him get

559
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960
to the line if he has no intention of actually

560
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,079
shooting the basketball. And as much as we love AJ,

561
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,839
there were certain times where he was more interested in

562
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,759
getting to the line than he was playing through contact

563
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:44,519
and getting the shot up. So it's a little bit

564
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:48,039
of both, but unfortunately it's it's I don't want to say, boy,

565
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,599
you cried wolf, but you moved margins enough so that

566
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:53,799
once you got to the Big Twelve tournament. The decision

567
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,920
at that point the Big Twelve officials had made was

568
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:58,920
we're not gonna let you abuse us to get to

569
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,279
the line, and so when it came to the biggest stage,

570
00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:04,000
they decided to swallow their whistle with AJ.

571
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 6: I do think and you can't say that the officiating was.

572
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,519
Speaker 5: Horrible, right because they put Kingston Flemings in foul trouble.

573
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:13,759
They put a manual sharp infol trouble like they did

574
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:18,279
call it, but it was specific to a J at least,

575
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,200
and you can have the argument about Rob as well,

576
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:23,279
but it was felt specific to AJ that they said

577
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:26,200
we're not going to give calls and like, again, what's

578
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,039
what does Kevin Young care if the Big Twelve finds

579
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:31,400
him or they got it. I'm sure Crumble will pay

580
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,319
for it. I'm sure it'll get all taken care of.

581
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,759
I love Kevin Young for just going at it and

582
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:37,640
saying this is exactly what's on my mind.

583
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you wonder has anyone put together the montage with

584
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:43,440
miss foul calls yet with a with a k Y

585
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:49,839
on the back end saying minimum, you know I need

586
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,880
I need that, I need all the misscalls because I mean,

587
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,079
do you do we agree with that? I mean, look,

588
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,440
there's obviously been miss calls, like I mean, whistles for

589
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,680
AJ have been intermittently right, and we've criticized him for

590
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,720
looking for those, yes, right, looking for those calls. Was

591
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:10,440
he looking for them as much or was he actually

592
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,400
when got but they weren't being called.

593
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 5: I think he has evolved because again we heard it.

594
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,799
I saw I talked about this yesterday. We heard him

595
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:18,920
say in postgame I gotta stop doing that. Yeah, yeah,

596
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,119
So I think he has evolved and grown to the

597
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,799
point where like he is trying to get the shot

598
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,359
and he's not ignoring the fact that he could get fouled.

599
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,839
But you kind of waffle back and forth, and now

600
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,640
Fischer said, we don't even care if you're actually going

601
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,240
for the shot.

602
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:34,559
Speaker 6: We're just gonna take it away.

603
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 5: And then to Ron's point, like he's played three games

604
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,759
in three days, and that man is tired. So if

605
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:42,759
I can get a little extra bump that will get

606
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,960
me to the line, I think that helps. I think

607
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,799
it's a little bit.

608
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,519
Speaker 3: Of both men. Can I give you some numbers. One

609
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,839
of the analysts, Miles, I forgot his name, correct me.

610
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,039
Bred helped me with the guy forgot his name anyway,

611
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:57,279
it doesn't matter. He's Simon Miles, Simon seventy six minutes ago.

612
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,319
Wildcats go Wildcats, right seventy seventy six minutes before the

613
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,079
Houston game. It's a lot on your legs. AJ played

614
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:06,559
all forty that's one hundred and sixteen minutes. I'm pretty

615
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,119
sure that's a lot of minutes been in three games.

616
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,319
So and this is where it happened. I think at

617
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,359
first there are three fouls where I'm like, okay, that

618
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,960
should have been called. Then there's one AJ that's fifty fifty.

619
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,119
They gave it a Tuggler. It could have gone both ways.

620
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,200
And then I think he was tired, be because remember

621
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,480
that one when Tugler's playing great d and he tries

622
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:24,599
to the NBA does this the hand in there where

623
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,000
he's defending in the face and you're allowed to do

624
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:28,000
this in college, but in the NBA you're not. And

625
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:29,920
he tries to rip through and get the foul and

626
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,839
looks on on like, AJ, that's not gonna be called

627
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:34,640
that's not gonna be called a thing now or I

628
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,000
think in the NCAA tournament that's just not an NBA

629
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,440
call that you're gonna get in college. But again it

630
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:41,160
goes back to what registered. I think he got it.

631
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:43,000
I think at that point he's like, all right, I'm

632
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,240
trying to get to the basket, Ben, and now I'm

633
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:47,400
not getting the calls and I'm not Now okay, now

634
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,200
let me see if I can, you know, draw some

635
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:51,640
contacts away from the whistle. And it didn't, And I

636
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,200
think that was what it What it did they get, Look,

637
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960
you gotta tip your cap to this team. Then didn't

638
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,720
quit when Richie Sunders went down, Ben, they struggled. They

639
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,000
figure hear it out and because of playing in this

640
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,160
Big twelve. I think that's why they can see the

641
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,079
second weekend. I'm being honest when I said I don't

642
00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:08,599
think that's hyperbaly. I think they've really found something and

643
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,880
even the minutes with Dominique Diamonde, they're playing defense. They're

644
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,279
really locked in. So there's no shame in losing to

645
00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:16,960
the number two seeded team in the tournament, a top

646
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,160
ten team in the country, and a top ten defensive team.

647
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: Most importantly, Yes, indeed, a couple of last things before

648
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,559
we go to break, because I do think we need

649
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,759
to discuss AJ's night. Some people would say that maybe

650
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,279
weren't watching it closely, that he had an off night.

651
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,079
There was a reporter that as you know, hey, with

652
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,599
this off night that AJ had offensively, you know, you know,

653
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:43,920
how would you evaluate AJ? Why did this happen? This

654
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:45,279
is what Kate Why had to.

655
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,039
Speaker 7: Say, How do you have off ninety seven of eighteen

656
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:50,240
from the field, nine to ten from the free throw line,

657
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:53,039
three or five from the field that had twenty six points?

658
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:53,599
Not a.

659
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,519
Speaker 4: Blake? I love how solid Ky gets and it's a

660
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:06,480
rut that I'm during the question Kevin, he presses these

661
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:07,400
media members.

662
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,599
Speaker 5: So I hate to go back to my Spencer Linton

663
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,119
time history. But one of the things that Spencer always

664
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:16,039
told me is like, if you're gonna ask a question

665
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,960
where you use a word like off night, or poor shooting,

666
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,559
then you need to also state whatever number you're using

667
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:28,519
that backs that up. And I I I just I

668
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,920
when I was and growing up as a as a journalist, like,

669
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,839
questions are very important, and if you're gonna say AJ

670
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:38,200
had an off night, then you need to bring the

671
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,640
number that you feel backs that up, because I think.

672
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 6: Jay Drew maybe I'm trying to remember.

673
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: Somebody in the BYU media asked the question of Kevin

674
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:50,400
Young somewhat insinuating off night or whatever, and he had

675
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,839
numbers to back it up, and Kevin Young was very

676
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,880
complimentary about having a conversation where he was like, I

677
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,759
don't necessarily fee that feel that way, but I see

678
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,359
why you're bringing up based on that number. Now, the

679
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:04,160
worst time to ask someone why they're having it enough night.

680
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,440
The worst time is right after they just went off

681
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,880
on a diet tribe saying I don't care if I

682
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,720
get fined going off on the referees.

683
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,039
Speaker 4: Yep.

684
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: So I feel for reporters when they get blasted by

685
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:17,319
coaches for no reason.

686
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: That was not one of those times.

687
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,039
Speaker 3: This is not a local reporter in our market, by

688
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:22,759
the way, this is someone else saw. I was not

689
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:25,119
surprised by this, Ben And I just want to give

690
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:27,880
some context because I post you got posted to your Twitter.

691
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,680
Here's jon Leine Campbell that put a reply. Any player

692
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,240
will love an off night like that. Good grief. People's

693
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:38,160
perception gets this oriented without free without the free throws,

694
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,119
DNP would have had eleven points twenty nine percent shooting,

695
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,319
and yet everyone is singing his praise. It's silly.

696
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:45,759
Speaker 4: There you go.

697
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,799
Speaker 3: It's a narrative thing.

698
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:52,759
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, not a bad night. Let's go to number four. Right,

699
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:56,200
let's go to it by his standards, though, uh maybe,

700
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:59,839
uh maybe he could have done more. Look, he did this,

701
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,359
serve to have a few more touches in the final

702
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,359
five minutes. If anything, I'm gonna put it on hey, K,

703
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,279
why why didn't get The better question would have been

704
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:10,720
why didn't aj touch the ball in the last five minutes?

705
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,240
He probably could have put up a thirty to forty piece.

706
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:13,839
What do you got?

707
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 7: He can do everything on the court that you want

708
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,039
a basketball player to do. And I'm not trying to

709
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,039
get snappy. I think I thought he played a great

710
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,799
offensive game and should have had Like I said, the

711
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guys should have had forty again, And I'm just calling

712
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a spade of spade. He's his combination of size, skill,

713
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mental capacity, processing, speed and it factor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, if anything, if you wanted to throw

715
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:40,240
something at K why he's like why didn't he touch

716
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,160
the ball in the last five minutes? That would even

717
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:45,240
fair yep, And then Ky would have been like, you know,

718
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he he's not gonna come back.

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Speaker 6: And be like, oh he did. He was like okay,

720
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,640
but he didn't score. So where where like that is

721
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,920
a that is a fair question.

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some of the sound bites BYU did lose to the

768
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Houston Cougars, but in our opinion here at ESPN the Fan,

769
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,280
this is a good thing. Get rested up Friday, Saturday,

770
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,440
Selection Day Sunday, and then you get into the NCAA

771
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:33,599
tournament and you're a six seed. Anyway, guy, you're a

772
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:37,000
cit You'd have to win it all to be elevated

773
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:38,599
to a five seed. It is what it is. Let's

774
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:41,039
take that sixth seed and run with it. I think

775
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:44,320
it'll provide a nice pathway to the sweet sixteen fingers crossed.

776
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,719
That's well, thyugh get that's where they will end up.

777
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:48,960
Let's get back to the sound though, b what you

778
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,519
lost to Houston. It was announced AJ that you broke

779
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:56,840
the Big twelve tournament scoring record held by Kevin Durant.

780
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,760
It is a bit ironic because that is his favorite

781
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,760
play or believe all time, and it models his game

782
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,800
after Katie uh And. So obviously personal accolades are not

783
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,880
your focus, but has that you know, has this conference

784
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:12,840
record been impactful for you? What would you say about it?

785
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 8: I'll speak with the accolades, not special Kevin Durant. Obviously

786
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,360
everybody knows he's my favor players. So that was the

787
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,400
only record I broke of his this weekend, So it

788
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,320
feels good to just break his records. How did it

789
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,559
prepare us for the March? Like the rail run, I

790
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,039
mean a lot. We needed some extra games under our belt.

791
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:32,800
So we were actually saying in locker room that we're

792
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,639
happy that we played in that first in the first

793
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,800
two games, you know, kind of showed our identity. We're

794
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,239
about perseverance, or about resiliency, and then you know, to

795
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,079
play Houston, I don't. I don't think any other team

796
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,639
plays as hard as Houston in the country. So to

797
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:47,719
be able to play them twice and get that type

798
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,360
of feedback and to get that type of film, I

799
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think we'll be prepared for the tournament.

800
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Speaker 4: That's aja pontificating about it. Look, he's a team for

801
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,400
this guy. I mean, I think he appreciates the individual

802
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,119
individual accolades, and he's competitive and his individual accolades. When

803
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:03,519
Champs Philip Johnson was asking him the question in the

804
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,239
post game, you know, in the aftermath of the Big

805
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,760
twelve Player of the Year award being an announced and

806
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,800
it wasn't given to him, No disrespect to anybody that

807
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:14,679
was a candidate, right, but he was like, yeah, I

808
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,559
thought I should have won it, but I also understand

809
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,719
what it's a team game, and I should have won

810
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,039
more ball games from my team. I should have won

811
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,960
more ball games from my team. And that's what makes

812
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:26,119
him so mature. We were kind of taken back by it,

813
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,639
right or were we were we surprised by it or

814
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:30,400
we were just like, oh, yeah, that's a j I

815
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,000
think we were kind of back and forth with because

816
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:35,320
we still view him as like a young eighteen nineteen

817
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,239
year old young man. That's yeah, he's gonna be the

818
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,559
first row of ball draft pick and he's got a

819
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:40,840
lot of ego. But I don't know if we expected

820
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,320
him to kind of deflect and say, yeah, I should

821
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,719
have won more games for my team.

822
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: Because the answer I think that you're expecting, if it's

823
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,400
not yeah I should have won, is yeah, it's not that.

824
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 4: Big a deal.

825
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,639
Speaker 6: I don't really care about the yeah, that's the answer

826
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:54,320
that you're expecting. It's not that big a deal.

827
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Speaker 5: And both of those answers are like a seven out

828
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,519
of ten answer. He gave the ten out of ten answer,

829
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and I think that's what surprised us. But to AJ's credit,

830
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,800
like he's gonna get the only accolade that matters, and

831
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,840
that is being the number one overall pick because because

832
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,320
guess what, that's a bigger accolade than the Wooden Award

833
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,960
than the Naatesmith Like that's a bigger that's a bigger accolade.

834
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm sure he thinks it's cool.

835
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Speaker 5: I thought the more interesting part of that quote was

836
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,599
playing three games this week, because if you think about it.

837
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,199
There's some guys who only played one game this week

838
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,079
or two and then there or can you imagine you

839
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:37,159
played one game on Tuesday or Wednesday and then you're

840
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,320
hanging out for like a week and a half until

841
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,800
you play next Thursday or Friday.

842
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,519
Speaker 6: AJ makes a really good point.

843
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:46,559
Speaker 5: They got a lot of really good games and one

844
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,280
of which is probably gonna be a Sweet sixteen, maybe

845
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,519
a Final four team in Houston. So it's not even

846
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,559
like you're playing scrubs for the week. You are legitimately

847
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,599
practicing for the NCAA tournament, which Kevin Young told us

848
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:02,599
all season that was why they scheduled their non coln

849
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,079
that way. They want to simulate NCAA tournament games as

850
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,480
much as they possibly can, and what better way to

851
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:12,320
do that than playing Houston in a neutral site.

852
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,519
Speaker 4: It was great, man, It really was, minus the led

853
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,840
court and everyone slipping. Although did the dunk? Did the

854
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,719
poster dunk that AJ dropped on?

855
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: Uh?

856
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: Houston? Yeah?

857
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 6: Is the one who slipped?

858
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, he slipped, you know what I mean? And then

859
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:31,719
it was over Tugs. Uh did it? Did the slipper

860
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,599
before contribute to that?

861
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 5: I'd like to say no, but it was guess what

862
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,039
you know, who was guarding agent the final six minutes.

863
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,119
You want to take a guess Emmanuel Sharp?

864
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: Yes, so, And you wonder why Sharp had such a

865
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:48,719
poor performance. He couldn't hit because he had to probably

866
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,320
guard to Aj a little bit everyone.

867
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,679
Speaker 5: He also missed a lot of time because he got

868
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,960
so many fouls. And I wonder if maybe the court

869
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,800
contributed to that. You don't hear the leverage that that

870
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,199
you want to have. The other thing that you no

871
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,960
contributed to that was uh, I think they said on

872
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:06,039
the broadcast last night. Kelvin Sampson was saying that Kingston

873
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:09,280
Flemings had never run a mile on a track before

874
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:12,039
and that and for everyone who doesn't know, like that's

875
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,599
kind of their litmus test that Houston is you have

876
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,679
to run like a sub six minute mile, and his

877
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,440
first time ever running a mile five minute eight seconds.

878
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,239
I don't think in my entire life I've ever run

879
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480
a five minute mile. So shout out to Kingston Flemings

880
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:28,159
and shout out.

881
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:33,119
Speaker 4: To Kevin Sick. I will say the whole team, like,

882
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:35,800
you know, it's interesting. I'll give you an anecdote here

883
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,159
because everyone's just think I'm a football guy. So I

884
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,280
have to like balance everybody else every once in a while,

885
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960
because I know, even Ronald, even Bratt, you guys all

886
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,519
think I'm just a football just a dumb football jo,

887
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,559
dumb football jockey. The need I remind you in eighth grade,

888
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:53,679
I was a state champion at Hillcrest Middle School. Baby,

889
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,840
that's right. And I did play high school basketball of

890
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,280
oursity all that stuff. But like we we had a really,

891
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,519
really really good team in a eighth grade you know,

892
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,880
we had to do every single day before practice.

893
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: You did not run a mile every day.

894
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,679
Speaker 4: We had to run a freaking mile every day. We

895
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,719
had to beat it every time, so like we would

896
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,840
gauge it like so we started off or like okay,

897
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,400
like we had to be sub like I think we

898
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:18,639
had to be like sub nine minutes or something like

899
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,599
that to start us off at the beginning of the season. Broh, kid,

900
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,039
you not in eighth grade. By the end of the season,

901
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:27,519
I was running a five forty five mile in eighth grade,

902
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,440
I believe it, and we and look like we would

903
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:33,119
press we would run. I mean, you know, there's a

904
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:36,000
reason why we ended up winning the state champion because

905
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,920
we were in phenomenal shape and we could run with

906
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,119
just about it. We got, we had some great players,

907
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:44,079
et cetera. But honestly, our eighth grade coach should have

908
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,519
probably been our varsity head coach. Like anyway, that's neither

909
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:53,079
here nor there, but like, running a mile under six

910
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:57,039
minutes is very difficult. It's very very difficult. You got

911
00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:01,159
to be in a phenomenal cardiovascular shape. So that's an anecdote.

912
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,159
Anyone that's tried to go sub six six minutes and

913
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,639
made it, I salute you. That's a tough thing.

914
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,599
Speaker 3: We should have Kevin Young's squad do that. Ben, I mean,

915
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:12,440
can you tell me that you didn't see this yesterday?

916
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:15,440
The team that runs sub six minute miles, we're diving

917
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,840
on the led floor getting all the fifty to fifty

918
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,920
balls and they weren't exhausted. I get that that was

919
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,960
their first game, but they're never exhausted when you have

920
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,280
when you have Tuggler, Ben Tugler, Tuggler running a sub

921
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,880
six mile, Like the average mile last last year I

922
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,639
think was like five thirty or five forty five. I'm like,

923
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,840
that's ridiculous.

924
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, it's it's Hey, you gotta go, and you

925
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,159
gotta be in good shape. No, doubt about it. So

926
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:43,880
let's go back to the sound here along the lines

927
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,519
with coach has asked, what gives you guys, you know,

928
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:50,400
some confidence, some swagger. There's been a lot of injuries

929
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,280
over the last few weeks. How are you guys gonna

930
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,280
make a run in the tournament?

931
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,159
Speaker 2: I think it's just we found our identity as a team.

932
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,599
I mean, we got role players stepping up like Dom

933
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,960
Alexey saying big shots for us, even moveing playing great

934
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,159
the last couple of games. So I think he's just

935
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:05,400
figuring out who we are as a team.

936
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: Well, he said the identity do we do? We really

937
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,800
feel like they finally found because like, let's be honest,

938
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,239
remember when AJ and Rob and and and the others,

939
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,639
We're gonna be fine. We're gonna be fine, We'll figure

940
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:23,719
it out. We're getting our identity. Remember like a month

941
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,119
and a half ago, Like after like a win two

942
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:28,320
months ago, we're like, oh, yeah, we got our identity.

943
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:30,280
We're gonna we're gonna figure it out. Like we're like,

944
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,039
I don't know if we were convinced at that time.

945
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:33,599
Speaker 6: I wasn't.

946
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,559
Speaker 4: I wasn't ronigh Am now, but I wasn't. Okay, So

947
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:38,280
we're all believing.

948
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. Yeah, no, I believe. Again, I did not

949
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,119
believe I picked him to lose like four games in

950
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:42,400
a row.

951
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,519
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, I think we're believers. Now. How much confidence

952
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:48,320
does it give you, guys, knowing the workload et cetera,

953
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:51,719
that you carry every single night. That look, you guys

954
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,679
can can rely on others too, don playing minutes, Alexi move.

955
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,440
All these guys stepping up when it matters most.

956
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean, we're just coming together at right time. I mean,

957
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,320
like both of them said, we just figured out who

958
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,840
we are and we just everyone's just stepping up.

959
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 4: Everyone's stepping up, everyone's stepping up. What did you guys learn?

960
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,719
What did you learn about last year? Ten weeks in

961
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,760
a row with the Big twelve play you're about to leave.

962
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,519
Now you're going to play some really good opponents. You

963
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:22,440
got a lot of eyeballs on you, et cetera. Give

964
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:24,119
us a little fresh breakdown of this.

965
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's been you know, it's funny when

966
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,039
you like, we were here. I think here we had

967
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,039
Big twelve media day. You were at the MC for

968
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:33,960
that too, So we had it in this building and

969
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,079
it was interesting at the coaches panel, just the amount

970
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,280
of respect that all the coaches in this league have

971
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,480
for this league. I think those that follow our league

972
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:47,159
extra closely understand every single night feels like Game seven

973
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,760
in the NBA Playoffs series.

974
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,679
Speaker 4: The physicality, the.

975
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 7: Talent, the coaching, it's all at an extremely high level.

976
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,280
So I really I feel fortunate to be in this

977
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,360
league because I do think it prepares you literally for

978
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,239
anything in the country relative and that's you know, to

979
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,960
your point, you're gonna play a good team in any

980
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,119
game in the NCAA tournament. But yes, I think this

981
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,079
league prepares you because there's different styles and so forth,

982
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:14,400
and you know, the and I don't know if this

983
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,559
necessarily isn't a Big twelve specific thing, but the tournament's

984
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,880
so interesting because you're not You're just not as familiar

985
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,920
right with the opponent, right, And so getting out of

986
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,360
the Big Twelve and being able to go, you know,

987
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,880
see some fresh faces and things like that will be good.

988
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,840
But I think to your actual question, what prepares you most.

989
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: Is just the gauntlet of the Big Twelve.

990
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,119
Speaker 7: And I think when you can get through that and

991
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,719
not not sinc I think that that in and of

992
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,280
itself gives teams and coaches a lot of confidence heading

993
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,000
into the tournament.

994
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: There you go, that's k why discussing the refining fire

995
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:51,320
of the Big twelve conference?

996
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 8: We know it.

997
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 4: And I was looking at like quad quad one opportunities

998
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,760
this year. Seventeen seventeen quad one games on the schedule,

999
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,440
so over half your games set. And BA was seven

1000
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:05,880
to ten on those quad one opportunities, seven to one

1001
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,280
versus quad two teams. Right, they had let one loss

1002
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,920
versus UCF at home. That was a quad two because

1003
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,239
it was at home and your loss, and.

1004
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,639
Speaker 5: If you have Ritchie you probably would Yeah, I think

1005
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:16,159
if you have Richie you probably wouldn't.

1006
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,559
Speaker 4: The most likely most likely. Right then, that definitely hurt.

1007
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:21,800
But even then, like they were over complicating things defensively,

1008
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,199
and I feel bad to a degree how harsh we

1009
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,480
were on maybe some of the players. You wonder when

1010
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:34,679
a player is hesitant or looks lazy, is it because

1011
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:38,199
of coaching and scheme or is it because of the

1012
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,000
individual effort. We're seeing a revitalized team, maybe more effort.

1013
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,320
Maybe that's the sense of urgency, it's marge et cetera.

1014
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,800
But you also have an indication that the coaching staff

1015
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,280
was over complicating things defensively, and that's why they were

1016
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:52,800
maybe lost. That's why they were hesitant, That's why they

1017
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,199
were vacillating, That's why they were they were slow to react.

1018
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,719
When you overcomplicate things, all the kid is doing is

1019
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,239
thy thing rather than doing.

1020
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,599
Speaker 5: I think it really helps. I know I've harped on

1021
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:06,719
the sky a lot, but I think it really helps

1022
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,559
having a Dominique Diamande on the floor to be maybe

1023
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:13,360
not your primary defender. Sometimes he is your primary defender

1024
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,559
and sometimes he's your secondary defender. But either way, the

1025
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:19,880
way that Canard and Dominique together have been able to

1026
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:23,760
shoulder a lot of that offensive load makes it a

1027
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,480
lot easier on everybody else on the floor, so that

1028
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:32,119
Rob and aj they don't have to give their absolute

1029
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:35,280
one and ten percent on the defensive end when they're

1030
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,639
already giving it on the offensive end like you don't.

1031
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,079
You're not forced into shootouts anymore because you have two

1032
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,880
guys who can primarily stop pretty much anybody you're you're

1033
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,239
going to go against, unless you're playing against the Kingston

1034
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Flemings or Copede or Darren Peterson, which you will because

1035
00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:55,000
it's the dangers of this league.

1036
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,199
Speaker 6: But I'll promise you this.

1037
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I can't promise you, but I'd be

1038
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,960
willing to bet a lot of money whoever you play

1039
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:03,039
in the first round of the NCAA tournament and maybe

1040
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:05,639
the second round. I'd be willing to bet they don't

1041
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,280
have a first round NBA draft pick on their team,

1042
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:11,159
which you've seen for a lot of your games this season.

1043
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,679
Speaker 6: And if that's the case, that.

1044
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 4: Will give you a little bit of a breather, no doubt, Ronald,

1045
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,519
your assessment of Dom and his defensive effort.

1046
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't say what I really want to say,

1047
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,840
but I'll just leave it at that. Don't start laughing.

1048
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: Don't you do it the fifth round.

1049
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm pleading the fifth hard. We'll talk off record, That's

1050
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:36,519
all I'll say. But no, I mean, look, he's an

1051
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:41,239
orthodox guy that's completely gritty, like he does not want

1052
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,440
to quit. I mean, look, he's the guy that's gonna

1053
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,519
hound you probably value every play. He's the guy in cagedable.

1054
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,840
You're like, dude, I don't I just I don't want

1055
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,719
to see that. That's the guy.

1056
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 6: You're like, no, not him, Yeah, like can he guard

1057
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,039
somebody else? Please?

1058
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: Exactly? It's like not me not, because you know that

1059
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,679
every time you touch the balls sports with the Deem,

1060
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,400
You're like, all right, this dude has a lot of energy.

1061
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,719
With Dom is like he gonna bother you. He might

1062
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,719
one hundred percent. Like this guy's like, am I gonna

1063
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,440
get bumped in want of foul? And I get fouled

1064
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:11,079
and then when he fouls me, am I gonna want

1065
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:12,840
to get up? Like he's that guy you know the

1066
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,639
whole time. But they need him, and Brett you and

1067
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,719
I said it. You know, Ben, you had alluded to

1068
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,840
it weeks ago. Was that the guy on the roster,

1069
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,719
And remember he got the chance in the Utah game

1070
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,320
picked up three quick fouls, and I'm like, okay, can't

1071
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,079
do that. But now with Richie they need him, and

1072
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:28,760
he's been playing great minutes, getting steals, pokes, And I

1073
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,320
think that's what it's gonna come down to. By U's path,

1074
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,559
Ben further will come down to Hadeem dom Alexi Koachs Knar.

1075
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:37,239
I don't think it's gonna be a J and Robb

1076
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,239
and people are gonna say, well, Ron, they could take

1077
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,119
We know what we can see out of a J

1078
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:43,039
and Robb. We see it offensively. I think it's gonna

1079
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:45,599
come down to it. In the words of Shaquille o'nia

1080
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,760
the others, what are the others going to do for

1081
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,079
this roster in march madness?

1082
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to keep it politically correct. I mean

1083
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:57,039
Dom has been playing defense like Tyrone Bigghams. And if

1084
00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:01,320
you don't Tyrone Biggams like, you gotta google him. Anyway.

1085
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,320
He gets crazy with it, no doubt about it. He's jitter,

1086
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,599
He's going everywhere. He's got high energy. Man. He rows

1087
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:10,079
with it. Guys, let's get into a few more soundbites

1088
00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:12,679
before we call this a segment here. AJ, you're very

1089
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,239
competitive as a result of this loss. You look at

1090
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,920
the opportunity to place Darren Peterson. Is that disappointing? We

1091
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:21,239
were hoping for another matchup. We were hoping for another

1092
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,719
head to head Darren Peterson versus AJ. This is what

1093
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:25,360
he had to say.

1094
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean if they win to night, I mean

1095
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:31,159
TC also has a chance to win. The almost beat

1096
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,000
him at their place over there. So I mean I

1097
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:34,440
was hoping I come out this game, would have win

1098
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:36,559
and just be ready to play whoever is playing next.

1099
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:39,280
But I mean it would have been nice to play

1100
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,519
Kansas again. We take one off at their place, so

1101
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:42,760
I mean, it would have been nice to go playing

1102
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,480
him again and get a win.

1103
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,559
Speaker 4: It doesn't even sound like he's even thinking about that stuff.

1104
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:47,199
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's not.

1105
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: He wasn't even thinking about that.

1106
00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:52,119
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's a great question, Like, I

1107
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:53,079
don't know, Yeah, this is.

1108
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 4: What it is. Final thing. You've been pretty candid about

1109
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,880
this being an up and down season. How much as

1110
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:02,840
has it been kind of a reward these last couple

1111
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,719
of games, these last couple of weeks to see your

1112
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,920
third iteration come together and start playing great ball? Ky?

1113
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,199
Why it's great? I appreciate that question. Very very is

1114
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,679
the answer, and not just for me, you know, I

1115
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,199
can I can see it on the guys.

1116
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 7: You know, every everyone in our locker room is extremely competitive,

1117
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:24,079
you know, and you know we had some dark times

1118
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,880
even recently, you know, but we were able to just

1119
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,679
push through it and.

1120
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,159
Speaker 4: Just like there's always a way, just pound the rock.

1121
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,159
Speaker 7: And we've you know, used every cliche in the coaching

1122
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,000
book probably in that space. But it's been rewarding because

1123
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:39,679
you know, when you go through adversity, adversity, you know,

1124
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,039
it really does bring groups together. I think it's brought

1125
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:45,119
our group closer together. I think, you know, our I

1126
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,920
think it's brought our fan base closer together. You know,

1127
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,519
I think that the moment we had at home in

1128
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:52,639
our last home game, I think the fans knew how

1129
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,400
much we needed that went. So I think it's really

1130
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,920
galvanized all the Cougar nation. It's galvanized our locker room,

1131
00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:02,239
our coaching staff, you know, the young households galvanized a

1132
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,360
little bit more, which is nice. And so and this

1133
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:07,480
is something I told our guys a couple of weeks ago,

1134
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,400
and and I learned this last year. And uh, you know,

1135
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,599
I was fortunate in the NBA to be on some

1136
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,920
really good teams. We were, you know, two wins away

1137
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,519
from winning an NBA championship.

1138
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: And what I shared with the guys was that was cool.

1139
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 7: But there's absolutely nothing like playing in the in March

1140
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,599
madness in the tournament, like even cooler for me than

1141
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:27,800
going to the NBA finals.

1142
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 4: And I really just I can't wait for AJ two.

1143
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 7: Experience Rob obviously has experienced under his belt, so to

1144
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,039
be able to have some good energy heading into that

1145
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,800
unbelievable opportunity that we're gonna getting ready to get into.

1146
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 4: It's just super exciting. Wow, Okay, hampertime, your thoughts are

1147
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,960
reaction your commentary to that Cougar byte that shound by

1148
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:53,519
from k Why baby bigger.

1149
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 6: Than going to the NBA Finals?

1150
00:53:56,679 --> 00:53:57,039
Speaker 4: Crazy?

1151
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 5: And this is not a guy hypothetically who I'd like

1152
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,639
to be there someday, like I imagine it's this great.

1153
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,440
He's been there. Yeah, he's never been to a college

1154
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,360
basketball national championship. No, he's never been to a Final four.

1155
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:14,039
He's telling you that the environment, the energy, the vibe

1156
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:17,719
of playing in the NCAA tournament, playing the big dance,

1157
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,639
the march madness that we all love as sports fans,

1158
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,360
Kevin Young feels that, which is pretty incredible. Kevin Young

1159
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,159
always has seemed like a grateful guy, but it means

1160
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,239
so much coming from him because there's probably.

1161
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 6: A lot of college basketball coaches who could say that

1162
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,239
and you'd say.

1163
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: Well, you've never coached in the NBA, so like, I'm

1164
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,719
glad that you think it's a big deal, but like you've.

1165
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 6: Never really been there.

1166
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,079
Speaker 5: To say that, Kevin Young has legitimately coached in an

1167
00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:49,840
NBA finals and he's telling you March madness is that

1168
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:53,000
much cooler which is pretty awesome for us, because I

1169
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:55,840
think the average sports fan would say, and I love

1170
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,360
the NBA, I love the NBA Finals. There's just nothing

1171
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:03,159
that comp to the survive and advanced mentality of the

1172
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,320
NCAA tournament. So for Kevin Young to say that that

1173
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:11,079
is big time, that's incredible, and it also means he

1174
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revers it as a coach, he revers it as a

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fan of the game, and hopefully that energy is so

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infectious with his team that they love this tournament and

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they find a way to make a run through the

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dance Ronnie.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts man on that, I thought it was pretty

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pretty fiery comment from Ky.

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Speaker 3: Look, that's one of those social media ones that I

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think can go viral because no one in their right

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mind ben of who is you know, former fans of

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the NBA or current right, we all in some shape

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or form of watching the NBA and like, oh, it's

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the NBA Finals. What do you think of lebron block?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: You think of the Spurs with you know, with the

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Ray Allen shot for the Miami Heat. You think of

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Michael Jordan Utah Jazz fans still salty Lillison a push off,

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like you think of just all those iconic momenties Kobe,

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Brian and Shaquille near the three peed in to have

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coached in one of those, like even though he was

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two games away, to say, oh, March madness is bigger

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than that, Like that hits home. It does. Like Brett said,

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there's no other coach has been you know, in college

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in the NBA, Like no, no, like you know and

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making that transition. He went, I don't want to say down,

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but he's in college basketball a different league, and he's

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saying that, No, this tournament is the best. Like that's

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why I feel confident of this team could get to

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a c sixteen because he's competitive, Like Kevin is treating

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us like it's a Game seven of the NBA Finals

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of what he's already coached in each of these matchups,

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and you see it and I'm just gonna say it

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like with that, with the passion that you hear in

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his voice, if they get to a Sweet sixteen, Ben,

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after everything bad that's to happen this season, I mean

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bad of yes, bad injuries to good people, this is

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a successful season. They get to the Sweet sixteen with

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no Richie Saunders been. I wish we could go back

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in time and had a time machine here on Cougar Sports.

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Because if I were to tell you, or even tell

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myself or tell Brett, yeah, BYU is gonna get to

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the Sweet sixteen, They're gonna lose these four players, maybe

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five and get to the sweet sixteen, you would be like, Okay,

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yeah right, okay, I'll bet my savings, I'll bet the

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mortgage and probably would lose it. But in Kevin Young,

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you know the people trust and see why and yeah, man,

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this we we need to get the this on social

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media quick because I'm shocked at Kevin Young. This came

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out of his mouth. But Kevin Young is very When

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he says something, he really means it.

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