Speaker 1: I was watching this show, I think it was Hulu
Speaker 1: last week, and it had the biggest beefs in celebrity
Speaker 1: I think it was the nineties, the biggest beef between
Speaker 1: celebrities and the nineties, right, And they're going back and forth,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of Tupac Biggie, you know, and
Speaker 1: they were ranking them, you know, they're ranking them, and
Speaker 1: for some reason they completely decided to ignore the Roxy
Speaker 1: Bernstein Corney Cox beef.
Speaker 2: I thought it was malfeasance on their part. Interesting was
Speaker 2: this a CNN thing? Was it the nineties documentary or whatever?
Speaker 1: It was the nineties, like biggest beefs between celebrities and
Speaker 1: the nineties.
Speaker 2: And for my money, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: There's a bigger beef between, you know, than between our
Speaker 1: next guest, Roxy Bernstein and the great Corney Cox.
Speaker 2: Roxy. Happy Tuesday, sir, How are you Spence?
Speaker 3: I just want to know. Was Vanilla Ice and Sugar
Speaker 3: Knight on there?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Was that part of the beef?
Speaker 1: It was not, But Shug I think was featured, I
Speaker 1: think three or four times, which is not surprising at all.
Speaker 2: How you been, my friend?
Speaker 3: I'm good. You know. It's getting the real grind of
Speaker 3: the season. But I'm good, you know, bouncing around doing
Speaker 3: what I do.
Speaker 2: There you go, there, you go? All right?
Speaker 1: Right off the top, Is there any way to fix
Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game?
Speaker 3: I don't know, to be honest with you, right, And
Speaker 3: is there a way to duplicate what the NHL slash
Speaker 3: hockey has done? Considering how great this four Nation's face
Speaker 3: off has been and the anticipation that a lot of
Speaker 3: people have for Thursday night with the final between US
Speaker 3: and Canada, I mean, is there a way to generate
Speaker 3: it internationally? And will they care enough? That's the other thing.
Speaker 3: And I'm not exactly sure, Spence, what you can do
Speaker 3: to make the NBA players care. They tried to do
Speaker 3: something different this year. I think there was a little
Speaker 3: bit more of a player participation and excitement about it,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't even come close to putting on the
Speaker 3: same level what hockey's doing right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll get talking in a moment, because the
Speaker 1: Four Nations Canada US game by far was the dopest
Speaker 1: thing I watched all weekend. So we'll get to that
Speaker 1: in a moment. But I don't know that the NBA
Speaker 1: at this point roxy has any other choice than just
Speaker 1: to admit what we're all seeing, and that is nobody
Speaker 1: gives a rip about this. It is simply a celebration
Speaker 1: of the league because and I don't want to be
Speaker 1: the old man yelling at a cloud about this, but
Speaker 1: you remember, once upon a time that was the greatest
Speaker 1: pickup game in the history of everything. When the best
Speaker 1: players in the world cared about playing in that game
Speaker 1: and wanted to beat each other, there was nothing better.
Speaker 1: And now, honestly, there's just nothing worse because to your point,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you play it in the Bay,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you play it in Salt Lake.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's US versus International, East versus West.
Speaker 1: These dudes can't even be bothered to play hard for
Speaker 1: a large portion and then Lebron shows up and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm out, just so you know, like I'm just not
Speaker 1: even participating. I think at this point the league just
Speaker 1: needs to admit that they're seeing what we're seeing and
Speaker 1: it's just unwatchable, and then that's just kind of a deal, now,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And look, I had an issue with Lebron. Did this
Speaker 3: weekend you take the spot from somebody else that could
Speaker 3: be there and made himself the center of attention in
Speaker 3: a lot of ways that all of a sudden dropping
Speaker 3: it on everybody, I'm not playing. That's the frustrating thing
Speaker 3: I had with with what Lebron did. But the NBA,
Speaker 3: it's look, I don't want to be this, get off
Speaker 3: my long guy. But when we were growing up, Spence,
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan cared right when he wanted to be involved.
Speaker 3: He had to win and he wasn't alone. Larry Bird
Speaker 3: took the floor, Magic Johnson. They wanted to win desperately
Speaker 3: and it meant something. Now we're exactly going all out
Speaker 3: and trying at the beginning. No, but when the game
Speaker 3: mattered and they had to play defense late in the
Speaker 3: game or they had to make a physical screen on somebody,
Speaker 3: they were doing it. You're not seeing that right now
Speaker 3: with the NBA in the All Star Game, with the
Speaker 3: young stars and having those teams there, it just is
Speaker 3: a different feel than it was for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Last thing on this And look, we both work in
Speaker 1: media and I do some TV. You do a lot
Speaker 1: of TV and call a lot of games, and so
Speaker 1: I understand, and I'm a grown up. So this is
Speaker 1: a front facing revenue generating product, and you have television
Speaker 1: partners that you need to take care of.
Speaker 2: But if I'm a player and I play hard.
Speaker 1: And I get a win and we advance on, and
Speaker 1: then you tell me that I have to sit down
Speaker 1: and listen to Kevin Hart make fun of Shaq's hat
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes before I'm playing again, I would be roxy.
Speaker 2: I would be so annoyed.
Speaker 1: Because you know the deal, Like, if you've ever played
Speaker 1: any sport at any level, Okay, you play hard for
Speaker 1: a while and then you sit for a while.
Speaker 2: What happens? You get tight?
Speaker 1: Like they even interviewed Yokitch and they're like, hey, what
Speaker 1: have you done during the break? He's like, I tightened up,
Speaker 1: you know, Like if you're trying to avoid injury the
Speaker 1: format itself while they're force feeding us Kevin Hart, I
Speaker 1: thought was horribly misguided.
Speaker 3: They're one percent with you that when you play all right,
Speaker 3: you want to keep going. You don't want to sit
Speaker 3: because then, as you alluded to, you get stiff and
Speaker 3: you make yourself susceptible to an injury. You want to
Speaker 3: keep going, Like, okay, could you set up two courts?
Speaker 3: I don't know what you could do if you're going
Speaker 3: to try to do a format like this and keep
Speaker 3: guys going, oh, we got next. Right, That's the format
Speaker 3: that they used is not viewer friendly and even player
Speaker 3: friendly to that regard, and there has to be a
Speaker 3: better solution. I just look, I'm not smart enough to
Speaker 3: figure it out. That's the job for Adam Silver in
Speaker 3: the NBA to try to get a better fit for
Speaker 3: what this should be. And look, it's not necessarily a
Speaker 3: joke like the NFL had become with the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3: Baseball does a decent job I think with the All
Speaker 3: Star get and making it competitive, and guys are out
Speaker 3: there and they are competing. But right now I'd say
Speaker 3: that the NBA is probably third as far as those
Speaker 3: All Star games. And look, I'm not including the MLS
Speaker 3: in this, but I think with what hockey as right
Speaker 3: now is clearly number one. I'd put the Major League
Speaker 3: Baseball game number two. Then then a third would be
Speaker 3: the NBA, and they're All Star weekend.
Speaker 1: Well, somebody didn't watch hay SU's FREDA and the Skill
Speaker 1: Challenge in the MLS All Star Game a year ago.
Speaker 2: Apparently, Rocky you tuned out on that one.
Speaker 3: Huh, sorry, I am not up with my MLS, my bad,
Speaker 3: All good, all good, All right, let's move over to hockey,
Speaker 3: and before we talk about what we saw last week
Speaker 3: and what we could see on Thursday.
Speaker 1: We are a new hockey market, so give us a
Speaker 1: little you know, context and maybe even a history lesson
Speaker 1: US Canada hockey is among the best rivalries in all
Speaker 1: of sport, period. But help us understand just how intense
Speaker 1: this rivalry has been before we talk about what's in
Speaker 1: front of us. Now, Hello, did you drop? He's still there?
Speaker 1: But Roxy, Roxy, are you there?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: Check one too? All right, we'll try to get Roxy back.
Speaker 1: Four nations face off coming up on Thursday. That will
Speaker 1: be the final US Canada. It's going to be played
Speaker 1: in Boston, which is a great hockey city. After the
Speaker 1: US was able to be Canada two to one in
Speaker 1: an event that's three fights in the first nine minutes.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was one of, if not the
Speaker 1: most entertaining products all weekend long. At its peak, five
Speaker 1: point four million American viewers watched the tournament.
Speaker 2: And so this is a new thing that hockey is
Speaker 2: trying to do.
Speaker 1: And as of right now, the early returns have been very,
Speaker 1: very positive. So Matthew, Brady Kachuk, and J. T. Miller
Speaker 1: each had a fight to open the game.
Speaker 3: JT.
Speaker 1: Miller fought a dude that's twice his size. But of
Speaker 1: course the Kachuck brothers started things off. So let's get
Speaker 1: Roxy Bernstein back on Roxy. Unfortunately, we didn't hear any
Speaker 1: of your answers, so I'll just ask it in a
Speaker 1: very short way, give us a little bit of context
Speaker 1: as to why US Canada in hockey is so intense.
Speaker 3: Well, that was the best thing I was said all day.
Speaker 3: It's Bence clearly.
Speaker 2: Oh damn it, Okay, your best. You know.
Speaker 3: It's funny because on the international stage, international hockey, it
Speaker 3: was more Canada Russia. When you go back some years,
Speaker 3: and it's only within the last I don't know, twenty
Speaker 3: years or so, maybe twenty five years, that the US
Speaker 3: has really surged and this rivalry is heated up between
Speaker 3: Canada and the US. And it's clear that this matters
Speaker 3: to the guys in the dressing rooms, to USA hockey,
Speaker 3: Canadian hockey, and they went out there and responded like it.
Speaker 3: Especially when you get Matthew Kudtruck dropping the gloves right
Speaker 3: off the opening face off, and you get a brawl going.
Speaker 3: And the only thing that would have made it more intense,
Speaker 3: I think Spence is if he had fought Sam Bennett,
Speaker 3: initially his teammate in Florida, right, instead of Brady Kachuck
Speaker 3: fighting Sam Bennett, if you got Matthew Kachuck and Sam
Speaker 3: Bennett fighting each other off the opening draw. But I'm
Speaker 3: not expecting the same kind of physicality. If you will,
Speaker 3: I'm not expecting fights off to get go on Thursday night.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a physical hockey game.
Speaker 3: Could we see some sticks come up and pushing and shoving, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we're going to be witnessing that. But if
Speaker 3: you look at the win and the game settled in,
Speaker 3: it became a smart defensive game that the US played.
Speaker 3: And when you have the best goaltender in the world,
Speaker 3: which the US does with Connor Hallibuck, and the way
Speaker 3: the defense really shut down, I thought the firepower of
Speaker 3: the Canadians that was more the story, even though the
Speaker 3: headlines clearly were the three fights coming in the first
Speaker 3: nine seconds to get the night started. And was there
Speaker 3: a build up from the booing of the anthem. I
Speaker 3: think there was part of that and the Kachucks wore
Speaker 3: it on their sleeve out there and took out some aggression.
Speaker 3: But this has become a rivalry I think over years
Speaker 3: just because of the US has elevated their platform on
Speaker 3: the international stage in hockey, where for years it was
Speaker 3: Canada US and that was international hockey for a lot
Speaker 3: of people, or I mean Russia and Canada, I should
Speaker 3: say so.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, I just was chuckling when I was listening to
Speaker 1: some of the coverage earlier today because they were talking
Speaker 1: about some of the players that are heard on both sides,
Speaker 1: and there was a sound sound bite where I think
Speaker 1: it was Brady Kachuck and may have been Matthew, one
Speaker 1: of the Kachuck brothers, was asked like, hey, you guys
Speaker 1: are you know you had to see it for the
Speaker 1: portion of the game against I think it was Sweden
Speaker 1: and there are rumors about guys being banged up in there,
Speaker 1: and he's like, we're playing just so you know, like
Speaker 1: we're we're playing on Thursday.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt.
Speaker 1: And it's one of the things roxy not to go
Speaker 1: back to the NBA bashing, but I love pro basketball
Speaker 1: and I'm mad at it right now. I just I
Speaker 1: love that hockey players will just show up because, look,
Speaker 1: this obviously means a lot more than a exhibition game.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going back to Lebron entirely, but it's
Speaker 1: one of the things that I've always loved about hockey players.
Speaker 1: They're they're they're real tough guys, and they care about competing.
Speaker 1: They care about showing up and playing because it makes
Speaker 1: the product better, obviously, and.
Speaker 3: That's the mentality, and that's the hockey mentality. If you
Speaker 3: go back that you're gonna play, if you could blace
Speaker 3: up your skates, you're gonna go out there and playing.
Speaker 3: And I know some of the NHL teams are obviously
Speaker 3: a little nervous about it when they see, for example,
Speaker 3: Charlie McAboy and the injury that he's dealing with right now.
Speaker 3: Matthew Kachuck was a scratch doing a little lower body
Speaker 3: injury from yesterday's game, Brady Kuchuck. Then they for precautionary reasons,
Speaker 3: pulled them from the game yesterday. So that's the tough
Speaker 3: thing for the NHL is they're so invested in this
Speaker 3: event and it means a lot, and it's clearly elevated
Speaker 3: hockey on the national stage. Here in the United States,
Speaker 3: and with the television ratings that they had for the
Speaker 3: game on Saturday night shows that there's interest. And now
Speaker 3: you move forward and you just hope that you're going
Speaker 3: to get the best product on both sides because of
Speaker 3: the injuries. And look, these guys are out there to compete,
Speaker 3: They're out there to win. They're not just mailing it in.
Speaker 3: This isn't just okay a whole hum event. National pride
Speaker 3: means a lot to these players, and it's evident the
Speaker 3: way they've responded so far in this tournament.
Speaker 1: Before we move off to hockey stuff, and you know,
Speaker 1: you've got a game to call tonight, so I want
Speaker 1: to do some college basketball with you in a moment.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to kick the tires on where we
Speaker 1: find ourselves year one with the Utah Hockey Club. They
Speaker 1: are right now as my computer refreshes, there's six points
Speaker 1: behind the Canucks and a full eleven points beyond the
Speaker 1: Avs for the wild card. What a peg like won't
Speaker 1: go away. It's wild what the Jets have done this year.
Speaker 1: But your thoughts on I guess I'll just say the
Speaker 1: first half, even though we're more than halfway home of
Speaker 1: the season for the Utah Hockey Club, and you think
Speaker 1: there's a chance they're able to catch the Canucks and
Speaker 1: maybe be a wild card playoff team this year.
Speaker 3: There's a chance, yeah, And you have Calgary lodge in
Speaker 3: there in between, and some of the teams have dropped off, like,
Speaker 3: for example, Okay, Saint Louis is a couple points behind Utah.
Speaker 3: The Seattle Kraken, to me, have been a major disappointment.
Speaker 3: They firmly expected to be in the playoff race, but
Speaker 3: they're well out of it right now. Is there are
Speaker 3: eleven points behind the Canucks. Nashville has been another huge
Speaker 3: disappointment of the Western Conference. But the opportunity is there,
Speaker 3: and I know the schedule could be favorable here coming
Speaker 3: up for Utah with some home games and even though
Speaker 3: they haven't played great at home, they've actually been a
Speaker 3: better team on the road for whatever reason. But there's
Speaker 3: gonna be opportunities here and they're gonna have to hit
Speaker 3: a really good run here to open up the second half,
Speaker 3: if you will, because Vancouver and Calgary both have a
Speaker 3: game in hand on Utah, so they're gonna have to,
Speaker 3: I think, play at a pretty brisk pace here to
Speaker 3: make a push. Can it be done. Absolutely, it can
Speaker 3: be done. And the injuries that Utah has dealt with
Speaker 3: on the blue line, Connor Ingram missed a good chunk
Speaker 3: of time when he was away from the team. The
Speaker 3: injuries even up front that they've had to deal with,
Speaker 3: that's been a concern. But they've tried to piece it
Speaker 3: together here and set themselves up to make a run.
Speaker 3: They're in this thing and they're gonna have an opportunity
Speaker 3: now they're gonna have to help themselves out. There's been
Speaker 3: certainly drama surrounding Vancouver with the whole JT. Miller situation
Speaker 3: in Elias Petterson. But there's gonna be opportunity here. When
Speaker 3: you look at the schedule what's looming for Utah and
Speaker 3: you open up the second half, Okay, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3: You're at LA, but then you have a run of
Speaker 3: home games Vancouver, Chicago, the Wild New Jersey. There's some
Speaker 3: other clutch games coming up, like, for example, the Leafs
Speaker 3: still come here. They're going to be opportunities, but they're
Speaker 3: going to have to hit the ground run into the
Speaker 3: second half in place a really good hockey coming out
Speaker 3: of the break, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Before we end with thought on BYU and their
Speaker 1: basketball program, let's give a little love to Craig Smith
Speaker 1: and the Utah Utes, who over the weekend was able
Speaker 1: to get two home wins against the two Kansas teams.
Speaker 1: They beat the number seventeen team in the country, Kansas,
Speaker 1: who I don't know, man, I don't know. The Jayhawks
Speaker 1: I believe were preseason top two or three, maybe even
Speaker 1: preseason one, and that group does not look like a
Speaker 1: connected group to me at all.
Speaker 2: But a good win for the Utes.
Speaker 1: They were an underdog, and then k State, who had
Speaker 1: won six straight prior to their trip to Provo.
Speaker 2: You know, that was a really good basketball game.
Speaker 1: And the best thing that I saw, in my opinion
Speaker 1: roxy those two games that I really haven't seen much
Speaker 1: of from Utah this year is their ability to close.
Speaker 1: You know, they were in the game. It was seventy
Speaker 1: two to seventy two at Cincinnati. Then since he ended
Speaker 1: on like a thirteen to two run. They were close
Speaker 1: against West Virginia, they were close against Oklahoma State, even Baylor.
Speaker 1: They had some moments, but the closing stretches have been
Speaker 1: difficult because they do not have a ball in hand.
Speaker 1: Lead guard decision maker that has the ability to make
Speaker 1: dynamic things happen like they did a year ago with
Speaker 1: Davon Smith. But with five games left, you know, you
Speaker 1: look at the rest of the schedule, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to pull off some upsets, but they might be a
Speaker 1: double digit win team in conference in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: They're seven and eight with five games left to play.
Speaker 1: And I want to get too far ahead of myself,
Speaker 1: but I'm really happy for Craig. Next year is the
Speaker 1: final year of his deal. So what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this year from the utah Uns.
Speaker 3: This was a big weekend, I think for him and
Speaker 3: the program to get those wins, and it is a
Speaker 3: little more difficult for them to get things done offensively.
Speaker 3: They're a tina has to do it by committee. Yes,
Speaker 3: Gate Madson's your volume shooter and your go to guy.
Speaker 3: Would need a big bucket, as he was with huge
Speaker 3: shots against both Kansas and Casetate last night. But it's
Speaker 3: a team that shares the ball that they average eighteen
Speaker 3: assists per game, their top ten in the country and
Speaker 3: assist and that's the way they have to play. They
Speaker 3: have to be connected offensively, and the effort on the
Speaker 3: offensive glass the last two games has been phenomenal. It's
Speaker 3: not just Ezra Sr. That they appeared to me wanted
Speaker 3: it more. They were the more aggressive team in these
Speaker 3: two games. And now you go out and they have
Speaker 3: five games left before they go to Kansas City in
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve Tournament. Getting to eighteen wins is a
Speaker 3: realistic possibility for this team, and you mentioned the double
Speaker 3: digit wins in the league. They have to prove they
Speaker 3: can win on the road, and that's what they're gonna
Speaker 3: have to do. If they're going to try to get
Speaker 3: out of the first day, maybe even the first two
Speaker 3: days of the Big Twelve Tournament, They're going to have
Speaker 3: to go to Central Florida and win a tough home
Speaker 3: game against West Virginia, but they got to win at home.
Speaker 3: If they can go three and two of these last
Speaker 3: couple of games, I think that bodes well for them.
Speaker 3: And I think that for a team that was picked
Speaker 3: what sixteenth spens in the preseason poll, and if they
Speaker 3: can finish right around middle of the league seven dates,
Speaker 3: that would be I think a really big accomplishment for
Speaker 3: this group.
Speaker 1: So Kevin Young has a litany of talent at his disposal.
Speaker 1: He's got two potential well one lottery pick with Diegor
Speaker 1: Demon and then a lot of people think Kennon Catching's
Speaker 1: is the first round player. So there's some you know,
Speaker 1: some seven figure players on this roster according to a
Speaker 1: lot of reports. And what I've been told and started off,
Speaker 1: you know, not great as far as what we were expecting.
Speaker 1: But they've they've kind of settled in now. They had
Speaker 1: a couple of losses Arizona, then at Cincinnati where they
Speaker 1: got trounced. They go to Morgantown to get a win
Speaker 1: over just a pain in the ass. West Virginia is
Speaker 1: the tough team to play against. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 1: end that six game winning streak from KSE State and
Speaker 1: it really wasn't close. When this is going to sound
Speaker 1: reductive and simplistic, but when Brigham Young is knocking down shots,
Speaker 1: that's a tough team. Kevin's got a tough team. So
Speaker 1: they see Kansas tonight. You're on the call, so kind
Speaker 1: of saying, question your thoughts with year one under Kevin Young,
Speaker 1: what do you expecting tonight?
Speaker 2: Is the Jayhawks are down in Provo.
Speaker 3: And this is an enormous game because the winner of
Speaker 3: tonight's game between KU and BYU will have the inside
Speaker 3: track at the five seed because you'll have the only
Speaker 3: matchup between the two teams this year, so you'll have
Speaker 3: the tiebreaker. And then can you make a push to
Speaker 3: get into the top four, which would be a huge boost.
Speaker 3: You get to buy into the quarterfinals if you can
Speaker 3: do that. And so for BYU, they've been dominated at home.
Speaker 3: Kansas has been very inconsistent this year and they've in fact,
Speaker 3: they've lost three consecutive road games to unranked teams, which
Speaker 3: is kind of unheard up Spence for a build self team.
Speaker 3: But this BYU team, I think they've gotten better as
Speaker 3: the season has gone on. And this is an adjustment
Speaker 3: for Kevin Young. Right, he's an NBA guy and both
Speaker 3: of the last number of years with the Suns also
Speaker 3: with Philadelphia, so he's going through a learning curve of
Speaker 3: the college game and learning the tendencies of going up
Speaker 3: against Bill Sell or a Scott Drew in this league,
Speaker 3: and that's a it's a big adjustment. I think it's
Speaker 3: a bigger adjustment than people realize what Kevin Young has
Speaker 3: had to do this year. And that's why I think
Speaker 3: they've gotten better and better is this season has gone
Speaker 3: on and for example, tonight is a big opportunity. They
Speaker 3: know it, and it is going to be rocking Marriott Center.
Speaker 3: This is this is a game that BYU has been
Speaker 3: waiting for for a long time. This is a reason why,
Speaker 3: in a number of ways, BYU is so active in
Speaker 3: wanting to get to the Big twelve. It's not just
Speaker 3: the money, and it's not just the more exposure, but
Speaker 3: to get a blue blood on your home floor. It's
Speaker 3: the first time a blue blood program will have been
Speaker 3: to the Marriott Center since the late eighties. And that's
Speaker 3: what BYU has tonight.
Speaker 1: All right, before I say you lose a college football question,
Speaker 1: because for the second time in four months, I guess,
Speaker 1: I'll say conference leaders from the SEC and the Big
Speaker 1: Ten are meeting in person to discuss common ground. Is
Speaker 1: what I'm reading during a critical decision making period in
Speaker 1: college athletics. So the meetings are talking about the House first,
Speaker 1: NC Double A and future governance and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But maybe most importantly simply to the consumer and people
Speaker 1: like us they love to watch and cover the sport,
Speaker 1: is the conversations about the college football playoff and what
Speaker 1: the two most powerful conferences. If it's not the two best.
Speaker 1: It's the two most powerful power of the perse. We
Speaker 1: know the deal rumors about both these two getting four
Speaker 1: auto bids and you know the Big twelve and the
Speaker 1: ACC getting two and the G five essentially being shut out.
Speaker 1: So we are in the middle of this, you know, neoliberal,
Speaker 1: capitalist takeover of college athletics. I mean, there's no denying that.
Speaker 1: But it appears that maybe these two conferences are trying
Speaker 1: to expedite this process to kind of move things even
Speaker 1: more in their favor.
Speaker 2: Does this concern you at all? How do you think
Speaker 2: it plays out before I set you loose?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, that concerns me. And because it's just so
Speaker 3: unstable the landscape of college athletics right now. And that's
Speaker 3: the frustrating and kind of unnerving thing about this whole
Speaker 3: movement that we're seeing. And look, the SEC is still
Speaker 3: ticked off that Alabama didn't get in, right, There's no
Speaker 3: doubt that on selection day when they saw Alabama left out,
Speaker 3: which I do believe was the right move, even though
Speaker 3: potentially they were the better team. But I thought that
Speaker 3: SMU had earned it and deserved to be in the playoff.
Speaker 3: For what happened during the course of the season, but
Speaker 3: that's what they're trying to do, is they're trying to
Speaker 3: make an exclusive club. It's US and the Big Ten
Speaker 3: against everybody else, and they're trying to gang up on
Speaker 3: the competition, and they're not going to be happy. I
Speaker 3: don't think until they get control. And look, I think
Speaker 3: we're headed. This is just my feeling of speculation, Spence.
Speaker 3: I think we're headed to college fotball breaking away and
Speaker 3: being its own entity, that it's gonna just be college
Speaker 3: football governed by a body, and every other sport, including basketball,
Speaker 3: will probably go back to a regional model. But I
Speaker 3: believe that's where we're headed, and it's gonna be the
Speaker 3: haves and the have nots. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's going to be a premier league like system from soccer,
Speaker 3: but we could be headed in that direction. I don't
Speaker 3: see this model being sustainable. I really don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the danger, you know, in what is being proposed
Speaker 1: is if you dilute the regular season in college football,
Speaker 1: you are taking away what makes it special. You have
Speaker 1: to games have to matter rocky. You can't just automate
Speaker 1: like sorry, Bama, don't lose four times, like that's the like.
Speaker 1: You can't minimize or dilute the regular season in college football,
Speaker 1: or in my opinion, you're taking away what makes it
Speaker 1: so special.
Speaker 3: Compon championships should matter and that's what the Mini valued,
Speaker 3: and I applaud them for that because SMU was the
Speaker 3: Big Twelve champ, but they didn't win in the Big
Speaker 3: Twelve championship game, so they but I think they deserved
Speaker 3: it because of what they accomplished in the season, and
Speaker 3: that's what the framework they laid out before the season
Speaker 3: was that if you're a conference champ, that should be
Speaker 3: a significant thing to add your resume as far as
Speaker 3: what the committee will look at. And that's what they
Speaker 3: got rewarded for. And now if you're going to take
Speaker 3: that away and you're talking about that's what it would
Speaker 3: devalueate the regular seasons about. Then we're just going to
Speaker 3: take a look. And it's kind of like the old
Speaker 3: Siston that we had. Well, I'm looking at just the
Speaker 3: eye test tells me Alabama's better than them. Alabama should
Speaker 3: be in That's not what this should be about. And luckily,
Speaker 3: even though we had those blowouts in the first round
Speaker 3: this year, I do believe the committee got the right
Speaker 3: teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Roxter, you're the man.
Speaker 1: Enjoy that cougar tail tonight in Provo and have a
Speaker 1: great ca Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's never a b YU game, but you don't
Speaker 3: have a cougartail, right.
Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt. If you finish the whole thing,
Speaker 1: I'd be wildly impressed. It's very unhealthy.
Speaker 3: I won't and I won't even even try to.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just a couple of.
Speaker 3: Bites, guy. Just need a little little bit of a
Speaker 3: sugar boost before the game.
Speaker 1: Moderation and all things Roxy, including moderation. By the way,
Speaker 1: my friends have a great call.
Speaker 3: Okay, anytime, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: I had the great Roxy Bernstein, he'll be on the
Speaker 2: call to I b YU. Welcomes in Kansas, down to Provo.
Speaker 2: That game is on ESPN. It's at seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: Utah was able to take care of the Kayhawks here
Speaker 1: at the Huntsman Center over the weekend. All right, before
Speaker 1: we catch a break, I want to tell you about
Speaker 1: my friends at Ogden Clinic Hadley Dermatology.
Speaker 2: Now here's the deal.
Speaker 1: If you're like me, once this weather finally turns for good,
Speaker 1: you'll be outside all the time. You'll be playing golf
Speaker 1: all the time, You'll be hiking all the time. You'll
Speaker 1: be in the sunshine a ton.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The reason I bring that up is I did not
Speaker 1: know this until we started working with our friends at
Speaker 1: Augmen Clinic Hadley Dermatology. We lead the country per capita
Speaker 1: in skin cancer diagnoses. I did not know that. It
Speaker 1: makes sense. We live in the desert. It gets very
Speaker 1: hot here, so Ogden Clinic, Havley Dermatology. They're offering you
Speaker 1: a chance to get a free skin consultation just to
Speaker 1: kind of make sure you're good.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I've known Jason and Michael for years and they're good
Speaker 1: friends of mine, and every year they say, look, we
Speaker 1: know you're out golfing a ton.
Speaker 2: Just come in. Let's check it out, make sure you're okay.
Speaker 1: We're going to do a comprehensive check head to toe,
Speaker 1: because early detection can save your life. Now if you
Speaker 1: have not been checked recently or ever. Quite frankly, I
Speaker 1: know there's some of you out there and you're thinking yourself, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm in the sun a lot. Take advantage of this
Speaker 1: because it saves you a grip of money, and then
Speaker 1: you know exactly what sort of hand you've been dealt
Speaker 1: they're also offering twenty five percent off of laser treatments,
Speaker 1: so it's going to be pool season here. Don't be
Speaker 1: the guy that takes off the shirt and you look
Speaker 1: like a gorilla. You can get that taken care of,
Speaker 1: or hair in other parts of your body taken care of.
Speaker 1: That's your business, not mine. Twenty five percent off of
Speaker 1: that as well. They do anti aging, they do body sculpting, injectables, Botox.
Speaker 1: We had a Valentine's Day Botox special twenty percent off,
Speaker 1: So take advantage of the deals. These are good people.
Speaker 1: They'll take great care of you. And pick up the
Speaker 1: phone and call this number right now. It's eight oh
Speaker 1: one six five seven five six six four.
Speaker 2: That's aight.
Speaker 1: Oh one six five seven five six six four. Eight
Speaker 1: oh one six five seven five six six four