WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:04.280 All right, let's get it. Drivetime Wednesday afternoon, about ten 2 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:07.240 minutes past the hour, two o'clock. Little chilly, little coal, 3 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:11.320 little cloudy, little rainy, preparing for some snow coming up 4 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:13.640 throughout the rest of the week and over the course 5 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:17.199 of Friday and Saturday. It's gonna get jam packed up 6 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:20.839 in the mountain area, which is always good. But it's 7 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:23.320 gonna rain coming up in just an hour or so. 8 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:25.719 Then some rain coming up tomorrow, some snow coming up 9 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:28.760 on Friday weekend, looks all right. Then in the next 10 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:31.039 week it feels like March. Is that That's what it 11 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:33.079 comes down to. It feels like early March. But as 12 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:35.640 it is every single day, it's good to have you 13 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:37.640 along for the ride. Spence check, it's behind the mic. 14 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:41.679 That's Porter Larsen behind the glass. Today jam Pack Show 15 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:43.439 to get you halfway through your work week and one 16 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:47.520 day closer to the weekend. Senior Night last night at 17 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:51.119 the Huntsman Center for the Utah men's basketball team, West 18 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:52.880 Virginia was able to get a win. It was a 19 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:56.960 very competitive basketball game. West Virginia now back in the 20 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.520 field of sixty four. According to Joe Lonardi, they're an 21 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:03.200 at lar potential team out of the Big twelve Utah 22 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.359 sixteen and fourteen. And they've got one more regular season 23 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:09.719 conference game prior of the Big Twelve tournament that's coming 24 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:14.239 up March the eighth on Saturday against Brigham Young down 25 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.159 in Provo. It's an eight o'clock tip. The game is 26 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:20.879 on ESPNU, and of course you can hear it on 27 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:25.439 this radio station. Speaking excuse me, speaking to the BYU Cougar's. 28 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.439 You're boys dealing with some stuff with a voice. We're 29 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:31.120 gonna get through four hours today and we'll see, let's see, 30 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:32.799 we'll see how we do today. We got a little 31 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:35.159 throat situation, we got a little chest situation, got a 32 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:38.680 little cough situation. So if my voice starts cracking, I 33 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.000 have gone through puberty. I'm a man in my mid forties. 34 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:42.799 I'm good to go that way. But we're dealing with 35 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.799 some stuff today, So bear with me. BYU with an 36 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:50.480 absolute statement. Win last night, there's no other way around it. 37 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:55.519 Iowa State through everything at them a for Roch's comeback. 38 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.920 Incredible comeback quite frankly by Iowa State, because that game 39 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:02.159 was done BYU was twenty one points, but they end 40 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.560 up making enough plays down the stretch to hold off 41 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.079 I with State eighty eight, eighty five and double overtime. 42 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:10.199 Who does Dallen Hall think he is jumping off two 43 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:12.840 feet grabbing alley oops? Goodness gracious, what a game for 44 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:16.879 Dallen Off the bench. Richie Saunders is playing his way 45 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:19.080 in a conversation for the Big Twelve Player of the Year, 46 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.360 let alone All Big Twelve First Team, and BYU has 47 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:26.639 now won seven straight games. They're among, if not the 48 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.240 hottest teams in all of college basketball. They've got the 49 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:33.280 inside track to the four seed, with an outside shot 50 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:36.439 it getting the three seed, although I doubt it, but 51 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.759 a four seed for BYU gives them a double buy 52 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:44.000 into the Big Twelve quarterfinals coming up next week. Utah 53 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:48.479 Jazz are back in action tonight Jazz Basketball taking on 54 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:52.080 the Washington Wizards. The Jazz are fifteen and forty six. 55 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:56.680 The Wizards are eleven and forty nine NBA Basketball. It's fantastic. 56 00:02:56.719 --> 00:03:00.240 Of course, this is Tankathon watch. These two teams are 57 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:02.639 trying to stay near the bottom of the standings in 58 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:07.400 order to get that fourteen percent chance to draft Cooper Flag. 59 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:10.520 It's going to be a five o'clock mountain time tips 60 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.879 an early tip Jazz at Whiz. The Jazz are on 61 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.199 a five game roadie after having nine games here in 62 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:20.240 saut Lake City. Utah Hockey Club will be back in 63 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:24.400 action tomorrow, taking on Detroit and down the stretch. Become 64 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:28.080 hockey club right in the mix as it pertains to 65 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.560 that wildcard spot in the NHL. Speaking of the NHL 66 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:36.000 and the NHL trade deadline is forty eight hours away, 67 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:40.120 and we've already seen a bevy of movement. Quite frankly, 68 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:42.560 more trades than you typically see. You don't see a 69 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.199 ton of mid season trades in pro hockey, but there 70 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:47.039 have already been a lot of trades that have been made. 71 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.719 Will the Utah Hockey Club get involved? Bill Armstrong joined 72 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:54.479 our program? Let's see, is that Monday or was it 73 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:56.919 last week? I don't know, man, it was last week? Yeah, 74 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.599 I swear that was Monday. I think it was Monday 75 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.520 last week, Monday of last week. Goodness gracious. Anyway, it 76 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:05.919 was a fun conversation with the general manager of the 77 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:09.120 Utah Hockey Club, and so we'll fill you in with 78 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:14.960 the latest in the NHL. WHOA telling you, man? Your 79 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:16.199 boys dealing with something today? 80 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:18.199 You gotta frog in your throat. 81 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:24.480 It's a throat slash, chest slash. Not sick, not sore, throat, 82 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:26.720 not fever, but coughing up things that you don't want 83 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:30.120 to see right, flatter and such. How are you porter, 84 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.399 I'm doing well, I'm doing Will Spencer say something entertainable? 85 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:34.240 I clear my throat? 86 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.959 Well, I'll turn your mic off and let you do 87 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.839 that as well, I will say. 88 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:40.800 I will say. 89 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:44.879 I think it's very interesting the kind of dichotomy we've had, 90 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:47.560 the dynamic we've had over the last twenty four hours 91 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.439 with the hoop side for Utah, not only is Josh 92 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.720 Eilert dealing with the last couple of games of the season, 93 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:56.480 he's dealing with one of them being against a team 94 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:59.839 he spent seventeen years at while rumor swirl of the 95 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.759 new head coach potentially accepting the job within the coming days. 96 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.879 Oh and now that you deal with all that, you 97 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.759 just have a regular season finale against one of the 98 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:12.639 hottest teams in the country, your rival BYU on the road. 99 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:16.040 That's that's some fun stuff that we can get into 100 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.000 in addition to a lot of RSL, maybe some offseason 101 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:19.920 football and more. 102 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.399 Get used to hearing more from that young man over 103 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.399 the next couple of days because I'm gonna take some 104 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:27.079 time off. We're gonna let the voice heel. We'll get 105 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.040 to more of that coming up in a bit, but 106 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.240 our first guest will be Chris Comrodnie live in studio. Ck. 107 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:36.000 We'll stop by, we'll do some college football. We have 108 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:39.920 the head ball coach of both our football team and 109 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:43.279 our football team. See what I did there. First, Bablo 110 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:45.759 Masnoetti's gonna stop by, the head coach of RSL, the 111 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:49.639 manager of RSL, and then Kyle Whittingham. Look at that 112 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.600 on this little radio show. Springball for the Utes about 113 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:58.399 two weeks away or so, and we'll get with coach winning. 114 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.800 I want to ask Kyle about the current status not 115 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.079 of the spring game this year, the forever twenty two 116 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.360 game this year. I think it's April nineteenth. I think 117 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.079 that's the date, and that is on the calendar, and 118 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.480 you should go. I'll be there and it's an exciting 119 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.040 fun day because it means we can talk little football. 120 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:20.199 But after Oklahoma became I think the fourteenth FCS team 121 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:24.040 to cancel their spring game, we have I think fourteen 122 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:28.279 teams now in major college football. They have decided to 123 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:31.600 either cancel springball altogether or just kind of adjust the 124 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:34.040 way they approach it. I think Oklahoma's going to do 125 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.040 more of like a pro day, some drills, they're just 126 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:41.319 not going to scrimmage. But Nebraska, USC and some others, 127 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.319 Florida State, some big time programs are just tapped out 128 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.120 of spring the spring game altogether. So let's see what 129 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.399 Kyle has to say about that. Learn a little bit 130 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:52.319 more about the new roster, and I will ask Kyle 131 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:53.879 if Devin dan Pierre is going to be the starting 132 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:55.839 quarterback for Utah football. I'm not afraid of it. I'm 133 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:58.839 going to do that today on the program. So Chris Camaraddie, 134 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.920 Pablo Mast you winning him and we'll go from there. 135 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:04.680 On a jam Pack Wednesday show, Happy Wednesday. You're halfway 136 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:07.360 through that work week and you're one day closer to 137 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:09.319 the weekend. All right, before we get with c K 138 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.480 live in studio courtesy of our good friends at Prize 139 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.519 Picks on a Wednesday afternoon, it's time now for your 140 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:16.079 opening tip. 141 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.600 Welcome to the Drive with Spence check its on Utah's 142 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:23.000 number one sports talk now into the studios of ESPN 143 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.639 seven hundred to set the scene for the show. The 144 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:27.759 opening tip of the Drive is brought to you by 145 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.079 Prize Picks. Use the code ESPN seven hundred and run 146 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:33.879 your game with Prize Picks. 147 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.000 So fun night. In local college basketball, last night, at 148 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:41.560 Senior Night at the Huntsman Center, Coach Eilert elected to 149 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:44.839 start five seniors as you would expect, Caleb Lohner, Lawson 150 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:48.480 Lovery and Hunter Ericson and the Matsen brothers Mason Matts 151 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.560 and Gabe Matts and Gabe Mattson will leave the University 152 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.759 of Utah's the all time leading three point shots made 153 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:58.319 in history. He went five to fourteen from last night 154 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.639 last night seven of sixteen from the Laurie had twenty 155 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:04.680 three points, five boards. Jake Wallen had twenty minutes. Like 156 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:06.360 I said, I was kind of interested to see what 157 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:09.000 coach Eyler would do. There was a little bit different 158 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.879 than what Craig decided to do to do, if anything 159 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.040 at all. The one thing he's done is he's played 160 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.480 COUNTA does a lot of minutes. But Kianna didn't do 161 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.160 much last night. He had twenty one minutes, Ezra twenty 162 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.360 nine minutes. Couldn't get going nine to eleven from the 163 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.959 free throw line. He did have eleven points and some 164 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.360 nice minutes from shrov jams twenty eight minutes for Mike, 165 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.000 he had twelve points. He had six boards and three assists, 166 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.519 but Utah not able to get it done. West Virginia 167 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:35.360 a really good team. West Virginia is a real weird 168 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.240 team to kind of try to figure out because they 169 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:40.279 have some of the best wins in conference. After beating 170 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.279 the Utes here in Salt Lake City last night, West Virginia, 171 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.440 according to Joe Lenardi, is now back in the field 172 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:49.120 as an at large and right now they're nine to 173 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:52.919 ten in conference play. They're eighteen and twelve overall. They're 174 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.120 going to finish things up with a game against UCF 175 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:57.440 a home. But they have some of the best wins 176 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.399 in all the Big Twelve. They beat Gonzaga early on, 177 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.879 they beat Arizona early on, They beat Kansas. I know 178 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:06.879 everybody's beating Kansas, but they beat Iowa State. Then they 179 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:09.919 have some just really bizarre losses. Quite frankly, so I 180 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:12.679 wasn't too surprised to see West Virginia get that win. 181 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.240 It was a very competitive game that that went right 182 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:17.840 down to the stretch. The uts miss some timely free 183 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:19.600 throws has kind of been the deal lost in two 184 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:21.679 of seven. Poor kid. I always feel bad for him 185 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:24.279 when he's on the line. But Senior night, so it 186 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.159 was a good crowd to say goodbye to these young men. 187 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:30.120 I'll say the same thing about Gabe Madsen that I 188 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:33.159 said about Brandon Carlson after BC was leaving last year. 189 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:36.039 Gabe deserves to be remembered really as the legend a 190 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:37.799 guy that could have left on a number of different 191 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.360 occasions decided to stick around. And I'm honestly, I know 192 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:42.960 this sounds weird, but in this day and age of 193 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.720 college basketball, I'm impressed that these kids just hung around 194 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.440 period after their head coach was fired. I do not 195 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.840 know how many players on this roster that the incoming 196 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.600 coach will try to recruit to try to get back. 197 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:56.840 We've kind of done this exercise before, and this is 198 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.679 gonna be predicated on the new coaching staff and what 199 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:03.080 they've value. And oftentimes I kind of you know when 200 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.919 you hear like, hey, they've got eight returning players, Well, 201 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:07.759 if none of them are good, it's not a good 202 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:10.679 thing that they're back. I would imagine they'd like to 203 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:14.279 have Ezra back, who's a junior. Look like coach Eiler 204 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:17.360 thought more of Kiana Dolles than Craig did. And Keanu 205 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:19.559 is a sophomore. Maybe you look to get him back, 206 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.440 and then I think you'd like to have Jake Walleen back, 207 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.799 maybe Shrob Jamps who's a junior. The Mats and Brothers 208 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.080 are both seniors. Lost in a senior, Caleb a senior 209 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.679 as well. My were little never really cracked the rotation consistently, 210 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:34.360 although he had flashes. So we'll see one more game 211 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:36.360 for the Utes. They're going to take on BYU and 212 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:39.480 Provo coming up on Saturday, and again that is an 213 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.440 eight o'clock tip time. It'll be on ESPNU and you 214 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:45.360 can hear the game on this little radio station. Speaking 215 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.879 of BYU, it's time to admit it, man, this is 216 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.000 a really, really good basketball team that is playing the 217 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.240 right way the right time of year. And I know 218 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.360 that's a cliche, but it is absolutely apropos when it 219 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.480 comes to college hoops. If we turn our calendar to 220 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.039 March and you are reaching that peak, you know, we 221 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.960 always ask the question, how good is your good? How 222 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.279 good is your ceiling? How good are you when you're 223 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:14.120 maximizing who you can be, and BYU is maximizing who 224 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:16.440 they can be. Right now, they've won seven straight games. 225 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:18.720 I don't know what seed line they're going to be 226 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:20.799 on there. They are going to earn that double by 227 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:23.559 next week in the Big twelve Tournament into the quarterfinals. 228 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:24.759 Now. 229 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:27.000 I kind of felt this way about the BYU team 230 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:29.440 a year ago. They were a little bit more dependent 231 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:32.879 on only the three point shot. Last year, this team 232 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:36.360 feels a little bit more nuanced, a little bit more complete. 233 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:38.399 If they're not knocking it down from the outside, they 234 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:41.000 can go to the Trairi kid down low. Tufus didn't 235 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:42.679 play much last night because it was an up and 236 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:46.080 down game and BYU was getting out in transition. They 237 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:47.960 didn't shoot it all that well. They were eleven of 238 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.399 thirty two from three, which is fine, it's not great, 239 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:52.440 but they were twenty five of thirty one from the 240 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.120 free throw line. Richie Saunders in forty seven minutes knocked 241 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.360 down all thirteen of his free throws twenty three point 242 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.879 six boards, two assists. Make no mistake, he is their 243 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.120 go to guy down the stretch. When by you needed 244 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.960 a bucket. Kevin called downhill plays for Richie every single time. 245 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:12.440 And that was a signature performance from Dollen Hall, who 246 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:16.120 was an unbelievable high school player around here. You know, 247 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.159 Mark Pope wanted Dollan to follow him to Kentucky, and 248 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:23.480 Dallen entered the transfer portal initially after Mark left for 249 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.919 UK and then decided to come back after sitting down 250 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.120 with Kevin Young. But you can see why Mark wanted 251 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:32.200 Dallan to follow him to Kentucky. He is a gritty, 252 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.480 tough kid who's really improved his outside shot. He can 253 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:38.320 knock down the three off the bounce and obviously off 254 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.240 the catch, and he's got that nice little crossover double crossover, 255 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:44.480 inside out move seven to thirteen from Lafloya had twenty 256 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.360 two points, five boards, three assists, did have six turnovers, 257 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:51.159 as did Diego. Devin Yegor had a tough time against 258 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:54.000 the pressure, so much so that Kevin actually gave the 259 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.279 ball to Doallen a little bit more than Yego. Demon 260 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:58.840 Yego did have six boards and twelve points, but he 261 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:03.120 also had six turnovers. Iowa State made a ferocious comeback 262 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:06.240 and they started utilizing looked like a diamond and water 263 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.960 a two two to one full court press with mostly 264 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:12.279 man principles and they were blitzing every pick and they 265 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.480 caused a lot of chaos and BYU was up twenty one. 266 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:17.759 It was a weird game because at the start, BYU 267 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.480 did not look ready. They were playing soft, they were 268 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:23.320 getting pushed off their spots, they were turning the ball 269 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:25.360 over and they couldn't make a shot, and Iowa State 270 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:28.480 jumped on them, and it looked like that that environment 271 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:30.480 might be a little bit too much for Brigham Young. 272 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.759 But they flipped the script and it was kind of 273 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.600 coinciding with the minutes that Dallen got. Once Dallen came 274 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.080 into the game, he kind of set the tone and 275 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:42.879 Iowa State through the kitchen sink at them. Iowa State's 276 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:44.720 a good team, man, that was the top ten team 277 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.879 and BYU goes to Ames and they get that win. 278 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:50.639 I mean, it's pretty wild what BYU has done as 279 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.440 of late. I referenced all the great wins West Virginia has. 280 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:56.399 BYU has a case right now that they have some 281 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:00.399 of the best wins in conference Kansas, Arizona MC, and 282 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.399 now Iowa State in Ames and they'll close out against 283 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:06.200 Utah coming up in Provo. I do not know what 284 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:08.799 the line for that game will be. My guess is 285 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.600 it's going to be like you know, double digits. It 286 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:14.120 is a rivalry matchup, so you never know what's gonna happen. 287 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.639 Of course, Utah beat BYU here in saw Lake not 288 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.080 that long ago. But BYU is a buzzsaar right now. 289 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:23.080 And Seth Davis, who I like a lot, tweeted out 290 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.559 he thinks they're a final four team. I'm not going 291 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.679 to go that far because ultimately, try to predict the 292 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:32.759 NCAA tournament is an exercising futility if you've ever tried 293 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:35.000 to do it. That's why you can enter million dollar 294 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:38.000 bracket challenges. If you get a perfect bracket, you get 295 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.399 a million bucks because nobody ever does it. But the 296 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:43.480 seed for BYU, according to Lenardi right now, is an 297 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.840 eight seed, and he has them playing New Mexico in 298 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:51.720 the first round in Lexington, and BYU would advance to 299 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.320 play the winner of Tennessee Norfolk State. Tennessee is awesome, 300 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:57.759 but BYU has to be considered a threat not just 301 00:14:57.840 --> 00:14:59.279 to win the Big twelve, but at least make a 302 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.879 little bit of a run and in the NCAA tournament 303 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:03.879 and give Kevin Young and his staff a lot of credit. Man, 304 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.279 They're fun to watch, They're very complete, they can beat 305 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:08.480 you in a bunch of different ways, and they have 306 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:09.840 one of the best players in the Big twelve and 307 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.799 Richie Saunders. They've got a couple of pros. Cannon catchings 308 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.720 didn't even play last night. They didn't even need them. 309 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:18.360 So impressive win for Brigham Young in Ames against Iowa 310 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:21.279 State and a rough way for the Utah men's hoops 311 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.080 team to go out in front of the fans on 312 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.159 Senior and i We'll see if they can salvage something 313 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.759 coming up against BUYU all right. 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On the program today, 336 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.480 Chris Camaraddie Live in studio, did you request the biggest 337 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.720 of hits from the greatest jam band of all time? 338 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:33.840 No? 339 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:35.879 Porter asked what I was in the mood for today, 340 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:37.879 and I said I wasn't in the mood for anything, 341 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.320 so he reverted to the mean. And the mean is 342 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:43.720 is Dave. And sometimes there are hits. Sometimes you just 343 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:44.200 have to go with it. 344 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:47.039 Wait a second, you Porter for the hit. You produce 345 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.679 this show every day. You're familiar with the by laws 346 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:50.480 of the drive. 347 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:51.559 I know deep tracks. 348 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.559 It was very last second, as I was situating cameras 349 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.720 and such, I came in here and we had one 350 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:00.200 commercial but playing, so. 351 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:01.279 I just had to act quick. 352 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:03.200 Now it's all good man, it's Dave Matthews. I will 353 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:05.960 I will admit to you know, back in the day 354 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:09.279 you caught the Office live. It wasn't you know, something 355 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:13.960 that you could watch on every every Thursday. And the 356 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.720 Andy Bernard Uh, he was skating right, he was at 357 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.200 like a classic skating gate. Yeah, he was on roller 358 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:23.920 skates when he dropped the whole d MB no hits, 359 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:26.960 Oh I I l o l c K I l 360 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.839 o LD because it was perfect. Because you have to understand, 361 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.000 I grew up with a lot of kids just like 362 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:34.920 Andy Bernard. He is a perfect character for a lot 363 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:35.079 of the. 364 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.720 Kids Ivy League, like. 365 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.640 Sailor, not a lot of self awareness, not near as 366 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:45.759 smart as he thinks he is, brags about the school 367 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:47.880 he went to even though he was a legacy, you know, 368 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.519 the whole Cornell bit. But when he dropped the whole 369 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:53.960 like Dave Matthews band, No hits deep tracks, because that's 370 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.000 what most day fans would say, like, oh, you don't 371 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.559 know you don't really know Dave. Oh what do you 372 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:02.960 think is the best song best Dave of album? Have 373 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:03.839 I asked you this before? Oh? 374 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:04.920 Yeah, under the Table and Jam. 375 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:07.279 See it's before these crowded streets. 376 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:08.039 Yeah, that's what I mean. 377 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:10.319 That's what day fans would tell you. Okay, Well, because 378 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:12.039 Under the Table is too mainstream? 379 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:12.279 Is it? 380 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.200 It's BTCS, that's what we get. It's after he sold out, 381 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:17.240 it is it is, God bless him. Going going back 382 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:20.799 to our theme of last Week of nineties music, selling 383 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:24.880 out is no longer a thing. Back in the nineties, 384 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:30.359 you were like the Nirvana's Pearl Jams. Like, I don't 385 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:32.359 know Pearl Jam all that well, but I feel like 386 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:34.640 they were kind of the poster child of what selling 387 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:38.200 out was like. Wasn't didn't what's his face? Eddie Vedergan 388 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.759 like mad because like some people thought one of his 389 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.400 albums were too was to mainstream, so he got poudy 390 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:45.359 about it. We just don't do that anymore. 391 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:45.640 Yeah. 392 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.279 I think ultimately selling out just means you're making money 393 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:50.440 for your music. Now, I'll tell you what though, I 394 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:53.960 do feel like so Porter is a country music fan, Yeah, 395 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.400 and he refuses to listen to any country music artist 396 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:58.839 who actually sells records. So I do think there's the 397 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:02.000 sellout style on the countries, like Zach Bryan's sellout right. 398 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.200 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about this. My wife 399 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:06.880 loves Zach Bryan, And anytime I send Porter like a 400 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.160 John Prime song, He's like, Okay, now, this is this 401 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:10.319 is what I'm talking about. 402 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.920 Right, Like there's sellout in country music these days. 403 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:18.880 Right, there's definitely like a fine line between radio country versus. 404 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:21.279 What I would say is, yeah, it's it's like independent 405 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:23.640 labels and that that's I mean, that is a genre 406 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:25.160 that is kind of done it. But if you're trying 407 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:27.640 to make pop music or trying to make hip hop music, 408 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:29.519 I don't really think you have that option as much. 409 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.519 Yeah. Porter constantly says I listened to non radio country, right, 410 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:36.160 so there's that, you know, the hipster country people now 411 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.559 starting to manifest themselves this country how to sell out. 412 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:40.319 That's okay, because I came in one day, I'm like, dude, 413 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:41.839 guess what I'm listening to? Some country man. 414 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:44.160 I listened to Zach Bryan, and Porter's like sha and 415 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:49.640 zaid like not it. Do you ever listen to Zach Bryan. Yeah, 416 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:53.480 so I kind of reached my apex on Zach Bryan 417 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.000 at the moment, but she is still riding that wave. 418 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:58.240 So I just kind of have to tune out and 419 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:01.279 do the listening to seagulls in my head and just 420 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:02.079 tune it out. 421 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.519 There you go, Chris Comerannie Live in studio, c K 422 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:05.759 Happy ONNESA. Man, how you doing? 423 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:06.680 I'm doing well? How are you? 424 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:08.759 I'm good. I got a little voice thing, yeah, but 425 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:10.880 we're working through it. And take a little time off 426 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:14.519 so I know you can. That's why you're here. In fact, 427 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:15.960 you want to just carry the hours. You want to 428 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:16.319 interview you. 429 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:20.400 I saw what the rundown is. It's me your guy, 430 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:23.279 Bob's good vibes and coach way and coach way. Wow. 431 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:26.000 So we got a heavy hitter line of Chris Comeranni, 432 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:27.279 Pablo Maschiooni, Kylewit. 433 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:29.599 I've always been kind of a leadoff hitter, you know, 434 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.000 like a squib down the third baseline, beat it out 435 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:34.279 and just do make havoc on the basis. 436 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:35.279 Can you lay down a bunch? 437 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:35.680 I can? 438 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:38.200 Okay, that's all that matters. So c K badding lead 439 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.400 off do you think? And I'm gonna ask Kyle this. 440 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:46.920 Oklahoma became I think the fourteenth major college football program 441 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:50.440 to announce that they're not doing away with their spring game. 442 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:52.680 They're just gonna do something different. I think it's gonna 443 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:54.039 look a lot like a pro day. They're gonna do 444 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:58.640 some drills or whatever. But sc Nebraska, a lot of 445 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:01.119 Florida State, a lot of big time college football programs 446 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:06.319 have simply canceled their spring games. Roster. The roster number 447 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:09.079 has been reduced to one oh five. When you play 448 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.319 your first game, you can only have one hundred and 449 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:14.119 five players on your roster. And I know that sounds 450 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.160 like a lot, but that's down about twenty three to 451 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:20.200 twenty four players. And if you make the playoffs, if 452 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.240 you win your conference and you make the playoffs, that's 453 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:26.039 seventeen or eighteen football games and you cannot add players 454 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:27.880 during the season. Maybe at some point they'll find a 455 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:31.279 mechanism for that. So I get it. If you're canceling 456 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:33.640 your spring game as a result of the powers that 457 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:35.400 be telling you you have to cut your roster. Do 458 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:37.279 you think this is something that's going to be commonplace 459 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:38.079 in college football? 460 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:39.640 I mean, I think it could be, but I think 461 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:41.799 at a place like Utah, you won't see it happen 462 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:46.119 because of the Ty Jordan Aaron Low effects. I mean, 463 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:50.279 I think the proceeds from that game go directly into 464 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:53.119 the scholarship fund or something along those lines, if my 465 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:57.200 mind serves me correct. So I think Utah is a 466 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:02.119 special circumstance. I think Kyle is a old school throwback 467 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.440 kind of guy and wants to be able to see 468 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:08.039 these guys play each other live. And I understand that 469 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:11.160 even in recent years you've held out the ones for 470 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:15.440 the most part, and that makes sense. But I think 471 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.599 the fact that they made their spring game something that 472 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:23.240 means more than just a typical spring game. I think 473 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.880 Utah will probably write it out until their head coach 474 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.839 decides they don't want to do it anymore. I don't 475 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:33.799 see that happening under Kyle. But I mean I don't 476 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:38.480 think like a pseudo pro day like flag football, kind 477 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:42.759 of like a Pro Bowl style of an event. Isn't 478 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:47.359 that bad of an idea because you simultaneously will be 479 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:51.680 in theory entertaining your fans with a product that's supposed 480 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:55.160 to be fun and engaging, and for head coaches who 481 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:58.440 are all very paranoid, You wouldn't even necessarily need to 482 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:00.799 tip your hand either, who's on what side of the 483 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.680 ball you could have you know, your your center as 484 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:05.640 the quarterback out there having fun. I'm just saying that, 485 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:10.839 like I think eventually you could see the trend go 486 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:11.640 in that direction. 487 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.000 You know, it's actually to kind of stay in the 488 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:16.759 space now that I'm thinking about it and what you 489 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:18.680 just said as far as how you could cater it 490 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.160 to just being more of a celebration of your program. 491 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:25.440 Have the quarterbacks all compete against each other for throwing 492 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:27.839 the ball through the tire or the target or whatever. 493 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.680 Do kind of like a Pro Bowl type skill event challenge, 494 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.880 because ultimately, as a head coach, you do not want 495 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.319 to lose any of your players. And as a fan, 496 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:40.119 you're not learning anything anyway. 497 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.160 It's just an excuse let some fans think they are 498 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:44.680 even when they're not breaking news. 499 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.920 You're not, okay, It's it's just an excuse to call 500 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.160 family on three and say, let's head up to rise 501 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:54.319 cycles in all of our uteness. Yep, right, let's let's 502 00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:57.160 throw up the you okay, let's do the thing. But 503 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:01.839 the game itself for me hasn't been interesting in I 504 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:06.920 don't know a decade or more right as far as like, 505 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:09.680 are we learning something about the schematics or the personnel? 506 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:09.920 Oh? 507 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:13.279 Correct? I think I can't remember what the setup was 508 00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:17.200 like in twenty seventeen eighteen when it was like Tyler 509 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:20.720 Huntley versus Troy Williams, good pull out. I mean I 510 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:22.960 was on the beat back then, so like maybe that 511 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:26.400 was one time where maybe it was worth it. But 512 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:32.000 I agree. I just think like eventually you can see 513 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.640 this whole thing be done away for a multitude of reasons, 514 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:36.680 but I do think there is a way to if 515 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:40.359 you want to simultaneously engage your fan base and make 516 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.160 money off that, there is a way to do it. 517 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:44.960 So we had a Rick Neuheisel on the show about 518 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.160 a month ago, and I was with Rick up at 519 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:50.680 this event that I am seed and I didn't know this. 520 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:54.359 Rick was a walk on. He walked on at UCLA, 521 00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:57.079 eventually became their starting quarterback and was very good. Played 522 00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:59.759 some minor league football, never played in the NFL. And 523 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.839 and when we were talking about the new roster limits, 524 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:06.480 because essentially, Ck, this is eliminating walk ons, like there 525 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:09.279 will be no more walk ons. And the good news 526 00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:11.640 is there will be enough scholarships to carry through one 527 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:13.759 oh five, Like you will have a scholarship if you 528 00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:16.920 want a college football team. Now, does eliminating the walk 529 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.839 ons do anything to you? Does that say anything to you? 530 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.640 Because new Heisl's the whole thing was like I was 531 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.200 a walk on and I earned the starting job within 532 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:27.920 two years. And we've seen a lot of walk ons 533 00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:31.519 earn jobs and you know, eventually earned scholarships. Doing a 534 00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.160 way with walk ons in college football? Does that do anything? Uh? 535 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.480 I mean in this market, you could make an argument 536 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:39.000 of it because you've seen so many guys be successful 537 00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:43.000 both at you know, BYU and Utah. But in order 538 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.240 to keep up with the Joneses, I think eventually you're 539 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.680 just gonna have to maximize your resources in NIL and 540 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.079 just focus on that. And I know that's a total bummer, 541 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:54.039 and I know it's a defeatist attitude, but if you 542 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:56.599 are left in the dust, I don't see you crawling 543 00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.880 your way out of the dust. And the idea of 544 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.640 walk ons, the you know, the Rudy story. You know, 545 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:05.359 it's what everybody fell in love with when it came 546 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.839 to like the undersized underdog and football making a name 547 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.759 for himself. But unfortunately, I think we're in an era 548 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.279 of sports where it's like if you have if you 549 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.759 can't help the team immediately, you kind of are forgotten. 550 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.119 I wonder so the ACC Florida Stanton Clemson, they ended 551 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.839 the litigation on Tuesday and they've agreed to a settlement. 552 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.079 The change of the league's revenue distribution model significantly reduces 553 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.359 exit penalties, which ultimately is where this is going for 554 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:35.240 members wanting to leave the conference before twenty thirty six. 555 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.359 But Florida Staton Clemson are now going to be receiving 556 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.519 a much larger piece of the pie. You think the 557 00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.240 Big twelve looks at this at all? And if they 558 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.519 do look at it, who are the schools that actually 559 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:45.880 will receive a bigger chunk? 560 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.799 I mean, I think it's personally it makes sense. I 561 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.240 don't know how fair it is, But if you are 562 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.039 the Big twelve, it might make sense to deploy something 563 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.200 like this. But you can deploy it with a out 564 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.279 line saying that like it could be from a year 565 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.119 to year basis, like a what have you done for 566 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.960 me lately? You can measure the success of you know, 567 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.880 the money generating sports, you know, football and basketball, teams, 568 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:12.799 and then you could even go down the line. I mean, 569 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:16.119 there's that cup or something that Stanford or Cal always 570 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:19.039 win from having the most success varsity sports success, you 571 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.160 could you could employ that kind of model to say, 572 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.640 like who's been the most successful And obviously you're gonna 573 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.759 lean it and teer it with the money making sports 574 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:31.480 at the top. But the Big Twelve is so wonky. 575 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.440 So it's like who stands out right now? I mean, 576 00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:37.880 I don't think there's anybody. I mean, PYU would probably 577 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.440 be one of the stands out of standouts if you 578 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:45.160 talk about like who's currently the most successful program. 579 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.319 Yeah, it does feel like everybody is just maximizing their 580 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:53.440 own brand right in their own kind of piece of 581 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:56.079 real estate. And if you look at essentially what the 582 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.599 numbers say concerning the Big Twelve, it's Colorado who just say, look, 583 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.480 we're tripling you every week three times the amount of 584 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.119 eyes are on us than it is on you. And 585 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.000 that's everybody, right, That includes Utah, that includes BYU, that 586 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:16.720 includes Kansas State or Oklahoma State. It probably if there's 587 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:20.160 anybody that has an ace in their hand, it's probably Dion, right, 588 00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:21.359 just because of the eyes. 589 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.640 For sure, and I wonder if I think people will 590 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.200 still watch Colorado this year, but I wonder if there's 591 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:28.640 going to be a drop off without Travis Hunter, without 592 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.200 Shad or Sanders, especially Travis. I think people were tuning 593 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:34.480 in to see what this kid could do, and who knows, 594 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.160 Maybe Colorado's going to be better all around football team 595 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.680 this year, but there is a world in which Colorado 596 00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:41.920 could be better on the field and maybe get less 597 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.759 eyeballs because they don't have as much top tier star talent. 598 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.640 We did the exercise as far as the schools that 599 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.799 probably have a little bit of leverage, and I did 600 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.119 say at the time, I still think Utah is in 601 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.079 that category. It just comes on the heels of a 602 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.319 bad season. And we are in a growing media market. 603 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.880 We've jomped in the Nielsen ratings, you know, over the 604 00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:04.079 past three or four years into the top twenty seven 605 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.599 to twenty eight, I think, and with hockey here and 606 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.720 as the you know, the market kind of continues to 607 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.599 grow if we can get if the Millers pull off baseball. 608 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.680 I've seen some people pontificating on the possibility of us 609 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.920 being like a top fifteen or sixteen market. Only time 610 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.799 will tell, but is Utah a school like they don't 611 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.480 have the eyes Colorado has. Colorado doesn't have the recent 612 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.599 run of success with Pack twelve championships and Rose Bowls. 613 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:30.839 And yes, I'm asking you off the heels of a 614 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.680 season where it didn't look great, But does Utah have 615 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.440 a case to be made if the Big twelve moves 616 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:38.079 into this model? Could Utah be one of the top 617 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:39.839 shelf teams to ask for a bigger piece? 618 00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:43.200 They have to have a tremendous amount of success at 619 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:47.440 the money making sports, which they have right Women's basketball 620 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.519 is you know, impressive? I mean gymnastics is ski teamki 621 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:53.920 I mean the Red Rocks make a lot, a lot 622 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:55.960 of money at this school compared to some of the 623 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:57.839 other schools in the country and in the conference. But 624 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.279 you you just don't think you're ever going to be 625 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.279 able to compete with Dion As long as he's in 626 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.200 the conference. I just think he is the great equalizer. 627 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.519 And no matter who's on that team, I think you 628 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.599 will get eyeballs, You will get people wanting to be 629 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:14.640 to pay attention to what's going on there. So I 630 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.839 do think if Utah wants to be one of those teams, 631 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:18.599 they need to get back to where they were at 632 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:19.960 the tail end of their PAC twelve era. 633 00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:25.240 The BYU topic here is always fascinating because obviously Provo 634 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.440 is not a media market that moves the needle at all, 635 00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:31.079 but BYU is a brand where everywhere they go they 636 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:35.599 attract home fans basketball and football. In ames, Iowa last night, 637 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.799 Kevin Young opened up BYU shoot around prior to the 638 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:40.839 game to any BYU fan that wanted to come meet 639 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.319 with the players, And from what I saw on television, 640 00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.480 it looked like there were hundreds of people there to 641 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.519 meet BYU players. So not just football basketball. BYU I 642 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.440 think was fourth in the Big twelve in ees per game. 643 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.680 But the BYU brand is worldwide and it is undeniable. Right. 644 00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.039 It's not Notre Dame, even though you know some people 645 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.039 want to compare the two, But is BYU just as 646 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:07.039 a brand enough of a negotiating card for whoever's there 647 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.400 ad to come to the table in this hypothetical to 648 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.440 say we deserve to be among the top shelf teams 649 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:11.720 as well? 650 00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.559 Well, yeah, because if you look at what happened even 651 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.319 after they went independent, ESPN was like, we're going to 652 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.519 partner with these guys by this vote, man, because we 653 00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.920 know that people are going to watch these games even 654 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.039 if they're at eight forty five pm local on a 655 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.519 Saturday night. BYU is one of the most unique fan 656 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.519 bases in schools in the country for that reason. And 657 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.839 if BYU's good and if they can sustain this, I 658 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.200 think they're absolutely in the mix. 659 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.079 Let me ask you this. If you're Bret your Mark 660 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.880 and you're looking at the schools, the schools come you 661 00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:45.920 and say, we want the ACC model. We want our 662 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:47.680 bigger brands to get a bigger piece of the pie, 663 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:54.400 because that's the way capitalism works. Shout out Elon. I'm 664 00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.319 going out of town today, Man, I feel like misbehaving. 665 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.720 Arizona or Arizona State. Who do you think is right? Like, 666 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:03.559 that's kind of an odd one. Arizona State just won 667 00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.880 the conference. Arizona basketball is a massive rant. 668 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.160 Football will always be kame. 669 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.759 So you think Arizona State right now? Yeah? 670 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.920 Okay, yeah, I don't. I mean, is Arizona the best 671 00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:13.119 team in the Big twelve right now? 672 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:16.079 Houston? So yeah? 673 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:17.839 I mean, like, I think Arizona would have to be 674 00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:23.480 like a Duke or North Carolina level program, again, especially 675 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:25.160 in this conference, in order for them to be able 676 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:25.880 to swing their weight. 677 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.119 Houston's kind of an interesting one only because of the 678 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:33.440 market size. Dallas is like the number six market. I 679 00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:34.400 don't know where Houston is. 680 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.400 Football is a non starter there. I mean maybe Willie 681 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:38.279 Fritz turns it around. 682 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:42.599 But like so yes football as of now. But if, if, 683 00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.119 if coach Fritz can get them into the top five 684 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.799 or six their basketball team. I know you don't watch 685 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:48.960 a ton of college basketball. 686 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:49.359 They good. 687 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.720 Oh it's like unfair. When Utah went and played them 688 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.200 earlier this year, they the youths couldn't even get a 689 00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:57.200 shot off. At one point, I think Uti had three 690 00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.440 made field goals and eight turnovers box and one triangle 691 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.119 and two that four passes. Gene Hackman, rest in peace. 692 00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:05.559 Have you ever seen Hoosiers? 693 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:06.880 You don't like it? 694 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:07.200 Oh? 695 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.839 Wait, wait at wait wait wait wait wait. I remember 696 00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.440 I was at dinner with you and John Paul and 697 00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:16.279 you both said Hoosiers and Field of Dreams overrated, and 698 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:17.119 you broke my heart. 699 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.400 Best best basketball movie ever? I know you're ready? 700 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:22.839 What fast break? 701 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:24.039 Blue Chips? 702 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:26.799 Blue Chips is an excellent movie. It is I will 703 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:27.240 allow that. 704 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.400 I rewatched it recently, and it is insane the amount 705 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:37.160 of prescienceness or whatever, how prescient that movie was considering 706 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:38.920 where we are now off the charts. 707 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.960 Trey would be proud of you from using prescience because 708 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.079 I am convinced that Trey has a word of the 709 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.200 day pop up on some app and then he just 710 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.559 tries to use it in converse. He loved Pressian is 711 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.359 one of Trey's favorite favorite words. So yes, rest in peace. 712 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:56.400 Gene Hackman, Hoosiers is a good movie. 713 00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:00.240 Dude, It's fine, It's fine. It it plays to a 714 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.599 very specific audience of people. Let's just say that whites. 715 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:04.720 I didn't say it. 716 00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:06.960 Well, you know, hey, it's been it's been a pretty 717 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:07.680 good year for the whites. 718 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.800 About on the sports side of the shooters. That's who 719 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.880 it plays to. Mainly whites. Shooters shoot shooters who don't 720 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.960 really donk or do much. Four passes before you shoot? Uh? 721 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.079 Anyway, Best Reporter, Best basketball movie of all time? What 722 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.280 do you Got? I can tell you what it's not. 723 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:23.239 It's not Coach Carter? 724 00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:24.239 What's the ray Allen one? 725 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.480 Oh? He Got Game is very good? 726 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:28.440 Is very good. 727 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:29.960 I don't know that it's the best, but it's my favorite. 728 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.360 He Got Game is probably one b for me. But 729 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.880 rewatching Blue Chips Nick Nolty, the kids don't know man. 730 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.920 Once upon a time Nick would bring the heat, and 731 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.880 he did in that movie. His Bob Knight impersonation is amazing. 732 00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:44.519 And side note, I recently came across a clip of 733 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:48.559 Bobby Hurley on one of those barstool bro talk shows 734 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.320 and he was talking about he was in Blue Chips 735 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.880 because it was it was a Colbert Cheney Indiana team 736 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:57.440 with Bobby, and he talked about how he talked about 737 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.159 how Bobby Knight refused to fall any sort of script. 738 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.000 He coached those scenes just like how he would in 739 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:05.719 real life, and it was amazing. 740 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.920 That's awesome. I'll have to go back and rewatch that 741 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:14.800 air Bud not bad. Finding Forrester was horrible. Sean Connery 742 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:15.639 is the coach. 743 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.840 Some people will say white men can't jump. 744 00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:20.840 I love the white man, but I actually enjoyed Finding 745 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.719 Forrester until the end when Sean Connery dramatically turns around 746 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.559 to the young man he's coaching and he goes, you 747 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.480 all the men now, dog, Like that sucks. 748 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:30.360 I was like, I was. 749 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.679 You all the men, no dog? It just it irritated 750 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.760 me anyway, best basketball movie of all time. 751 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.079 I still think it's Hoosier's Powerpool Wednesday. 752 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:41.400 Uh what did it used to be? 753 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:41.880 Uh? 754 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.599 It was powerpol Tuesday. Wednesdays on the Bill and spent 755 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:46.880 Show were a very special day. 756 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.480 I don't know, Oh, okay or not? The answer is Blue. 757 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.760 Chips, Blue Chips hot, Yeah, Hoosiers not. 758 00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.119 I mean it's not not hot. I mean rewatched Royal 759 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:02.320 ten and bombs again recently in the wake of Gene 760 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.199 Hackman's passing. Not a sports movie, but one of the 761 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:09.000 best performances in a movie ever. Just holds up so amazingly. 762 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.039 And I'll give you one. Gene Hackman as the football 763 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.840 coach in The Replacements, absolutely very underrated Blue. 764 00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.880 Chips forty percent Rotten Tomatoes, serapol. 765 00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.559 Dude, are you kidding me? Nobody talks about the fact 766 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.599 that they got Shaquille O'Neal and Penny Hardaway to act 767 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.840 in that movie, and like that is right as they're 768 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:29.639 starting to peak in Orlando too. 769 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.639 That's true. Here's a hot take semi pro Will Ferrell's 770 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:35.039 most underrated role, most underrated movie. 771 00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:35.880 I've never seen it. 772 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.000 You've got to watch semi pro. Okay, Whatody Harrelson's great 773 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:40.400 in it. I have a list in front of me 774 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.400 the top fifty eight basketball movies of all time. And 775 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.039 they don't think Hilia Blue Chips. They don't think highly 776 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.280 a semi Pro. I'm surprised you haven't seen Semi Pro. 777 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:50.360 I think you'd like that movie. 778 00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.760 Yeah, I don't. It slipped through the cracks. 779 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:53.920 The hell were we talking about? 780 00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:54.960 You have to see that movie. 781 00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.320 Of course c K derailed us. How do we get here? 782 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.519 You were talking about something? 783 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.760 Yeah, do you remember where were we for producer of 784 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.199 this radio? Get us back on track. 785 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.400 I think Chris brought up the weave something. Oh, you 786 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.599 brought up Hoosiers And then I said, you were talking 787 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:20.320 about how good Houston basket. There it is, guy O Buye. 788 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.519 Parenthood might have fried my brain, but not that bad. 789 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:25.800 This is called a man stone his thirties that has 790 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.159 good habits. He's able to go He's able to go 791 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.480 back and grab the piece of the conversation. No, the 792 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.519 only reason I brought up Houston is that is a 793 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:39.719 rather large market and their basketball program is awesome. But 794 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:42.840 as we said, football is everything right now. So just 795 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.119 the exercise of if the ACC has created a model 796 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.920 to hang on to their top teams. Will the Big 797 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.320 twelve do the same, because everybody wants to be in 798 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.679 the Big ten SEC party, everybody wants to sit at 799 00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.719 that lunch table because they're clearly again New Orleans two 800 00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:02.000 weeks ago. They don't even apologize for it, like, hey, 801 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:04.880 we're having meetings, but it's just us. Sorry, wait, I 802 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:05.719 thought it was P four. 803 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:06.039 Cool. 804 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.559 You guys hang out, the SEC and the Big ten 805 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:10.280 are gonna meet, and then we're gonna tell you how 806 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.519 things are gonna go. ACC's responses, we have to hang 807 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:14.760 on at Clemson, Florida State. 808 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:15.239 What do we do? 809 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.960 Okay, Now we have a new model to make sure 810 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.800 that if they leave, it's not as punitive, because at 811 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:21.480 one point they were going to be paying like seven 812 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.639 hundred million dollars to leave the conference. Yeah, now that's 813 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.400 down to like one thirty and then it goes down 814 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.400 incrementally up until twenty thirty two. So I just wonder 815 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.360 if the Big twelve is looking at this model, if 816 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:34.880 they're saying, wait, we need to hang on to the Colorado's, 817 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:36.440 the Utah's, the Byus. 818 00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:41.840 I honestly don't know. I don't think historically historically with 819 00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.800 Florida State, and I guess recently too despite last year's 820 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.199 debacle of a season, and Clemson, Like, these are two 821 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.920 programs that carry way tern money for you. I don't 822 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.000 think there are any programs in the Big twelve right 823 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.360 now that are on the same level. The number one 824 00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.280 movie on this list, You're still on it. No, No, 825 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.079 I do two things at once. I don't disagree with you. 826 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:03.840 I'm just wondering if your Brett, your Mark, are you 827 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.880 worried about losing the top you know, your big, big 828 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.280 time programs. The number one list movie on this list 829 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.719 is something called the First Slam Dunk? Have you ever 830 00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:12.119 heard of this? 831 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:12.559 I'm not. 832 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:14.519 Number two is Hoop Dreams, which is. 833 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.519 A documentary though okay, that's fine, but which I agree 834 00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:21.440 is Hoop Dreams was the first documentary that I ever 835 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.719 remember watching, and I watched it in school and I 836 00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:25.960 was like, this is pretty heavy. It was watching school. 837 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.239 I thought it was awesome. Interviewed Arthur ag a couple 838 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.360 of years ago. Randomly you followed me on Twitter. I'm like, dude, 839 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.960 will you come on my radio? Because I've watched that 840 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.400 probably two hundred times. I thought it was so cool. 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But my dad is a 854 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:12.679 big James Bond guy and loves Sean Connery. 855 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:14.880 Connery's Bond to me? Who's Batman? 856 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:15.440 Oh? 857 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.920 Michael Keaton forever? I've gotten into an argument with that 858 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.639 correct answer. I've gotten into an argument with my friends 859 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.719 about this ad nauseum. They are all about bail and 860 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:28.960 I'm just like, no, dude, Yeah, bail is okay, Bail 861 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.440 best Bruce Wayne, Michael Keaton best Batman? 862 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.519 Okay, I can ride with that. But as long as 863 00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.000 Keaton's Batman, We're on the same for sure. All right, 864 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.800 weird start. I'm leaving town, so I'm misbehaving. 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All right, we can uh, this is acceptable, right, 895 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.599 This is not one of their big time hits. Where 896 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:09.519 you're going mister Deed's I believe he was on the 897 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:14.480 Mister Deeds soundtrack. Betty Betty sneaky underrated. Adam Sandler, Oh, 898 00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:15.639 very underrated. 899 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:21.039 I mean in the Sandler lexicon. It's probably four or five. 900 00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:24.840 But that's still that's still good enough for me on 901 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:26.920 a good day. Are you pulling him up? 902 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.679 No, I'm just looking because because I wanted, because it's 903 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:33.519 Steve Buscemi was in that movie. But anything John's like 904 00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.519 he kills it and everything. Yeah, Rounders? 905 00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:37.639 You watching Severs? 906 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.199 Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm two behind. Okay, I'm about 907 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:41.039 to catch up on the flight. 908 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:41.599 Okay, okay. 909 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:43.360 Oh I like the look you just gave me. Yeah, 910 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.039 I'm in for a yep. But Ttuo was in Rounders 911 00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:50.280 with Matt Damon and Ed Norton as like the pro gambler. 912 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.400 Anything to Turto's in is he he is. 913 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.719 One of the coaches and he got game. That's recruiting is. 914 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.239 The uh he Got Game? Movie is not for children, 915 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:04.960 so a Spike Lee joint. There's a lot of things 916 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.119 I saw that I probably was seeing for the first 917 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:08.880 time as a teenager. I want to watch that movie. 918 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.800 So earl the Pearl Monroe highlights good good pull. 919 00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:13.280 So make sure the kids are in bed if you're 920 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.000 gonna watch You Got Game. Peter Gallagher was in that movie. 921 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:16.800 Oh yeah, goodness. 922 00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.519 Johnny Mack Yeah, Al Sharpen best, Adam Sandler movie, go. 923 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:27.000 Oh best or most quotable either, probably happy Gilmore. It's 924 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.920 Gilmore and Madison one A one B for me. 925 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.039 It will always be those two. Yeah, you're thinking too hard. 926 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.440 I would probably go Gilmore one. 927 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.400 I think I think I would too. 928 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.039 See these lists suck Rotten Tomatoes. Best Sandler movie they 929 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.639 say it's hustle. It's very not Did you like Uncut Gems? 930 00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:49.280 I loved it, but it stressed me out. I'll never 931 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:49.920 watch it again. 932 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.159 On Struggle, Oh, wedding singer also underrated? 933 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:56.360 Okay, wedding singers in the mix. My my most underrated 934 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:57.840 Sandler movies. Anger Management. 935 00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:03.239 Anger Management is excellent. Fifty first dates not great. Great 936 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.880 song though at the end. Yeah, you sung with Drew 937 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:07.639 barrymore Man. You're singing it smart. I was trying to 938 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.079 fall back in love with her. I'm leaving town. 939 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:11.599 So what are we talking about? 940 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:13.400 All right? Chris com Ronnie live in studio. We did 941 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.519 a lot of college college football last segment. Let's jump 942 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.159 over now to little college hoops where Jeff Goodman, John Rothstein, 943 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.320 Sean O'Connell, our very own Sean O'Connell. 944 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:25.800 You want you want to throw Chris com Ronnie in 945 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.639 the mix. Chris com Ronnie, are you reporting too? It's 946 00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:29.280 not done yet. 947 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.400 I've been told wait, you haven't inside information. All right? 948 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.239 All right, well then let's get serious here. Let's do 949 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.239 some serious sports occurator on a Wednesday. Some journalism, so 950 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.920 we have Rostein and Goodman are two of the main 951 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.559 college basketball newsbreakers, and Sean has his sources as well. 952 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.559 Alex Jensen is thought to be high speed ahead to 953 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.039 Land and become the next head coach. Tell us what 954 00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:49.239 you know. 955 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.880 Yeah, it sounds like the deal should be imminent in 956 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.599 the next twenty four to forty eight hours, but it 957 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:58.519 is not done yet, so these things take time. Obviously, 958 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:02.480 Alex is active coaching the Dallas Mavericks. I think they're 959 00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:07.719 in Milwaukee tonight if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, everything 960 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:11.159 is trending in that direction, as national and some other 961 00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:12.800 local reporters have already reported. 962 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.159 Let's see, the Mavericks are in Milwaukee tonight. Alex is 963 00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.519 on that staff. Tim McMahon our guy Tony Jones on 964 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.400 the show. They both have said they know that Alex 965 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:25.760 is in the last year of his deal. I guess 966 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:29.000 the MAVs decided to extend Jason Kidd but did not 967 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.760 extend his assistance for whatever reason. So let's kind of 968 00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:35.559 stay in the space. So Chris Comrodnie, who has the sources, 969 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.400 is reporting on The Drive Monday through Friday two to six, 970 00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:42.079 live everyday no exceptions, Alex Jensen is on the way 971 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:44.320 to potentially be the next head coach for the Utah 972 00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.440 men's basketball team. Yes, these things are complex, Yes they 973 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.800 take time. You hear a lot of people say that 974 00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:55.320 five years ago when Mark did it again, five years 975 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.920 ago when Mark decided to move on from coach Kriskoviak, 976 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.760 there were conversations with Alex, but they didn't go very well. 977 00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:05.280 Do you have any insight there. 978 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:07.559 I it's not that they didn't go very well. I 979 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.199 think Alex at the time, as you've alluded to and 980 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.639 a lot of other people have alluded to, Alex was 981 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.679 the first assistant on one of the best teams in 982 00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:20.760 the NBA, was credited with, you know, transforming one of 983 00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.639 the most awkward prospects in recent history into a now 984 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.440 four time Defensive Player of the Year and future Hall 985 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.239 of Famer. And in twenty nineteen he interviewed for the 986 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.760 Cavs job. So, like I think at the time, there 987 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.400 were a lot of people that thought Alex was going 988 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.039 to get a shot. And who knows, maybe if COVID 989 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.199 doesn't happen, maybe if all of the things, if all 990 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:48.000 of the if the yarn doesn't disassemble, the if things 991 00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:51.320 don't fray, if the Jazz stay good, if Donovan and 992 00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:54.559 Rudy stay here, there's a chance Alex isn't is a 993 00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:55.480 head coach in the NBA. 994 00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:55.840 Yeah. 995 00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:00.239 I think his exit was just a byproduct of that 996 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.599 era ending much sooner than a lot of people expected. 997 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:09.119 But now he's coaching on a team that you can 998 00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.880 argue has had the most snake bitten regular season in 999 00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.440 the history of the NBA. Maybe, I don't know, there's 1000 00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:21.760 everyone's a victim to recency bias, but they are probably 1001 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.679 not going to make the postseason now, I would I 1002 00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:27.039 would guess if Anthony Davis will probably not play the 1003 00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:28.320 rest of the year. I think they're like in the 1004 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.519 tenth spot. And I know the Phoenix Suns are their 1005 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:34.599 own disaster, but I would imagine the Sons will eventually 1006 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.440 catch them because I don't think a team of Spencer 1007 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.719 Dinwiddie and let's see, I can get somebody else on 1008 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.679 that team. Don't tell me, is Dwight Powell on that team? Okay, 1009 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:51.480 Stanford grad Dwight Powell. So yeah, I just think we're 1010 00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.800 in a different era now. A head coaching job in 1011 00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:57.360 the Big twelve will pay you more than an assistant 1012 00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:02.280 coaching job in the NBA, and I would imagine that 1013 00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:05.320 that is part of this as well. You know, Alex 1014 00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:08.360 is a Utah kid through and through. I know he 1015 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:10.679 didn't go to the I know he went to Bountiful's rival. 1016 00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:15.400 He's lucky he went to Humont prior to nineteen ninety seven. Okay, okay, 1017 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:16.559 let's be very clear about that. 1018 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:19.360 But yeah, his family loves it here, you know, they 1019 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.360 it I think the stars are aligning, and I think 1020 00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.360 this is just speculation on my part. I think there's 1021 00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:29.159 a reason, now if you can get this across the line. 1022 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:33.360 Why you know Mark Carlin and Utah decided to dismiss 1023 00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:34.760 Craig Craig Smith when they did. 1024 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.159 Yeah, no, the timing makes a lot more sense when 1025 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:42.119 you learn that potentially they had their target mind all along. 1026 00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.320 I wonder do you think, or maybe you know this, 1027 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.639 do you think Mark has kind of changed the way 1028 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:52.679 he's gone about this process because there are a lot 1029 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:53.880 of people and I don't I don't know this to 1030 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:55.679 be true, but a lot of people on the show 1031 00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.840 and off the show have said, last time they're over 1032 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:03.039 to Mark about you got to hire a Utah guy 1033 00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.840 or just met with deaf ears. Now, I don't know 1034 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.079 that I have a problem with that, because you and 1035 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.360 I have discussed this quite Yeah, you and I have 1036 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:12.119 just discussed this quite a bit. Like all due respect 1037 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.519 to Josh Grant, who was one of the best to 1038 00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:17.360 ever do it at Utah, Josh Grant was a dude, 1039 00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:19.119 because you know, that's how I like to put it 1040 00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:20.239 when it comes to good players. 1041 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.679 Hall of Fame interview on the Drive too. Oh yeah, 1042 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:23.760 bring him back more often. 1043 00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.280 No, no, he Josh Grant could come. We can chop 1044 00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.679 that up anytime. But Josh Grant back in the day 1045 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.400 was a problem. Like if he was born ten years later, 1046 00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:32.960 he probably would have been a ten or twelve year 1047 00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:35.280 NBA guy. So I respect Josh. He was a great player, 1048 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.039 and I do appreciate the candor and honesty that he 1049 00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.280 brought to the show last week. But like I can 1050 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.440 remember a lot of friends of mine that played basketball 1051 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.199 at Utah, A lot of alums would talk about how 1052 00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.119 they kept trying to call Larry Koskoviak and trying to 1053 00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.000 offer help, and I either couldn't get a call back 1054 00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:56.639 or he wouldn't answer the phone. And I would even 1055 00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:57.119 say to them. 1056 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.039 Like dude, Larry or Craig. 1057 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:02.639 Larry, Okay, I'm going to land on the plane. So 1058 00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:04.599 even back when Larry was around, I heard from a 1059 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.400 lot of like ute alums that they tried to get 1060 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:08.880 a hold of Larry and his staff to help and 1061 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:11.079 they didn't really get a lot of invites or whatever. 1062 00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:14.519 That's not Larry's job. And so when Josh kind of 1063 00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.280 dropped the same thing, like a lot of alums tried 1064 00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:19.840 to call Craig and say, can we help and he 1065 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.199 said no, I've got this, Like I don't have an 1066 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.360 issue with that. Like Craig's job is not to cater 1067 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.960 to alums. It was to coach his team. But it 1068 00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.360 was kind of the same feel about last time around 1069 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.599 when they were making this higher. According to a lot 1070 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.239 of people, they tried to reach out to Mark to 1071 00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.599 say we need a Utah guy, and Mark wasn't necessarily 1072 00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:40.039 open to that. Avenue. Do you think something's changed or 1073 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:41.880 do you really feel like he thinks Alex is the 1074 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:42.440 right candidate? 1075 00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:47.559 Now, I mean just my opinion, I think Alex is 1076 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.360 the right candidate because he is a guy who has 1077 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:56.239 ties to the university that can stimulate a donor base 1078 00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.760 that badly needs stimulating. And he's a guy who's proven 1079 00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:01.840 he coach. And we talked about this on the show 1080 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:03.519 a couple of weeks ago. It's like it is not 1081 00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:06.000 rocket science these days. Find a guy who can coach, 1082 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.119 and find a guy who can get money from donors, 1083 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:12.079 and then that that coach who can coach will use 1084 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.880 that money to go out and hopefully recruit good players. 1085 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.960 That's it. Yeah, it's E equals MC squared whatever A 1086 00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.960 plus BQ will see like it is that and that's it, period, 1087 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:23.599 end of story. 1088 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:27.719 Yeah, and watching what the Kevin Young hire has done 1089 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.960 for BYU basketball in less than a year, I think 1090 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.920 it's a model that you got to look at because 1091 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.760 the sport's changed, and you know the ability that Kevin 1092 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:41.519 has and Alex has too to go sit in a 1093 00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.880 living room with parents and most of these parents believe 1094 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:46.320 their kids are going to be pros, and the kids 1095 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.760 think they're pros at sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. I 1096 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.280 always tell this anecdote because I can remember John Calipari 1097 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.239 was interviewed prior to one of you know a UK 1098 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.320 game a couple of years ago, and the broadcaster asked 1099 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.119 cal how many pro do you have on your roster? 1100 00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.599 And he said, I have twelve. Go ask them, Just 1101 00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.000 go into the locker room and go ask them, I 1102 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:11.159 have twelve. They well, I mean they may have had. 1103 00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:11.559 Four or five. 1104 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.519 Right, So all these kids think they're going to go pro. 1105 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.199 And so for Kevin Young to be able to go 1106 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.679 into aj Debounce's living room with his father and say, 1107 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.320 I heard your favorite player of all time is Kevin Durant. 1108 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.360 There's his cell phone. Do you want to FaceTime him 1109 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.880 right now? Oh? I heard your favorite player is Kevin Booker. 1110 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.920 We're buddies. I'll text him, and you want an autograph, 1111 00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:34.480 Chris Paul whatever, Alex can go sit in a living 1112 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:40.760 room and say, Luka, Doncic, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Rudy Gobert, Dodovan, Mitchell, 1113 00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:43.280 Gordon Hayward, Klay Thompson. Oh you like those players? 1114 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:45.559 G times on the list, it was an all star 1115 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:45.880 once a. 1116 00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:46.440 I'm with you. 1117 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.559 Look Gordon Hayward. Prior to the leg injury, Gordon's last 1118 00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.960 full year here, he was awesome. He was really good. 1119 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.760 That's why it sucked that he left after he got hurt. 1120 00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:58.519 He never was able to recapture his form. He had 1121 00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.880 a couple of decent years in Charlotte. Yeah, yeah, too, 1122 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:02.159 Big Yo is on the list. 1123 00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:07.719 No, I agree with you wholeheartedly, and that is part 1124 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.159 of it as well. I've told you this for years. 1125 00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.280 Man like Utah just hasn't had an enticing roster of 1126 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:18.039 players or an enticing style of play to pay for 1127 00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:22.159 or to tune and watch periods consistently. Period. End of story. 1128 00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:26.519 And I know Craig's hiring came out a flashpoint in 1129 00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.320 college athletics. You know, he was hired I think in 1130 00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.000 end of March twenty twenty one, and that is right 1131 00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.320 when NIL started to take off. You're coming out of 1132 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:43.039 the real peak part of COVID fog. Craig didn't do 1133 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.719 a good enough job recruiting good enough players, period. End 1134 00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.639 of story. Now, there's an argument to be made that 1135 00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:51.079 he didn't have NIL resources at his disposal to do that, 1136 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.679 but at the end of the day, it's a resultspace business. 1137 00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:56.880 And you know, I think you know that, I think 1138 00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:59.920 most people know that. So now Utah, if they can 1139 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.000 get this over the line, they're relying on a piece 1140 00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.480 of you know, the glory days, the heyday to come 1141 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:11.239 back and restore something that really hasn't been seen on 1142 00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.639 a consistent level in. 1143 00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:17.000 It years since Rick. 1144 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.159 Yeah, twenty five years. Yeah, I mean just had the 1145 00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:23.320 Larry blip in like fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, decent years, you know, 1146 00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:26.719 six sweet sixteen, run good, good, good run. But just 1147 00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:30.679 looking at like ninety to like two thousand and four, 1148 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:33.440 they were in it almost every I mean, it was 1149 00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:35.239 a surprise if Utah. 1150 00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:38.559 Wasn't exactly exactly no, well said, and a surprise that 1151 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:40.280 they didn't at least win a couple of games. Yep. 1152 00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.519 And I continue to say this, and you might have 1153 00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.599 some memories. Even though I'm older than you are, I'm 1154 00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:48.960 telling you, man, if you're a ute student listening to 1155 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.000 the show, first of all, wow, because you have so 1156 00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:51.480 much that. 1157 00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.639 You can do that you're streaming for the internship ESPN 1158 00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:55.440 seven hundred docars. 1159 00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:57.519 We had Jalen Johnson as an interne's in the NFL. 1160 00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:58.920 But do you want to be an NFL player? You 1161 00:54:58.920 --> 00:54:59.880 should be an intern here. 1162 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:00.519 Uh. 1163 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.719 But if you're a student listening to this, I'm blown away. 1164 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.719 Thank you. You just don't know what it's like to 1165 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.599 be on campus in March when your team is really good. 1166 00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:09.440 It's really fun. 1167 00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:10.599 It is. 1168 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.079 It's it's a really fun time. I can remember during 1169 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.559 those days, we would plan our days around like where 1170 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.679 are we getting together to watch these games? The Utes 1171 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.519 playing the tournament today or it's the Sweet sixteen? Are 1172 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:23.360 we getting together? Like in the student body has an 1173 00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.079 experienced in a long long time. You know what it's 1174 00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:26.880 like when the football team is good and the muss 1175 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:30.840 is crazy impressive. But I just I would love that 1176 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:32.800 for this community because it was so fun when I 1177 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:34.360 was a student there in the late nineties. Is one 1178 00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:35.039 of my favorite things. 1179 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.800 And you guess the best player on the running Utes 1180 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.639 roster when I was there, I guess, yeah, my junior year, 1181 00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:50.079 oh seven oh seven, Luca Derta. He wasn't the best 1182 00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:53.880 player or one of the best others grateful with a 1183 00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:54.920 nevill Johnny Bryant. 1184 00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:57.639 Johnny Bryant was good player. Yeah he was a good 1185 00:55:57.719 --> 00:55:59.880 league guard. Yeah, jack O Ledi had a good team 1186 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.440 bog But Boga was a Majeris recruit, right, because I 1187 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:05.039 think they went to the Sweet sixteen. But no, it 1188 00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.920 has been since Rick. The consistency has not been there 1189 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.559 since Majeri's left. There's just no doubt about it. And 1190 00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.400 I don't think this community has been invigorated or inspired 1191 00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.599 by the program since then either leave, you know, save 1192 00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:19.960 a few exceptions that you and I've already talked about. 1193 00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:24.119 And Jack had one, Boylan had one, Larry had a couple. 1194 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.840 Craig really didn't, you know, they never went to the tournament. 1195 00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:29.960 He had some decent wins Oregon, Arizona, whatever. But if 1196 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.800 we're honest, the consistent consistency as far as winning, entertaining 1197 00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.440 style of play, and engagement from the community, it hasn't 1198 00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:38.119 been there since Rick. 1199 00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:41.199 Well and at the risk of sounding to Kurt like 1200 00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.639 nobody really gives a rip about big wins in the 1201 00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:46.920 regular season, exactly, what are your big wins? Come conference 1202 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.679 tournament time and getting into the dance. 1203 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:51.960 Well, and getting into the dance is the number one thing. 1204 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.679 You leave a lot of money on the table. That's 1205 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.480 the reason why college basketball is still a revenue generator 1206 00:56:57.599 --> 00:56:59.679 is because of the tournament period. End of story. 1207 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.280 Yeah, I mean still to this day. It is an 1208 00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:06.920 equalizer in the sense that people who do not watch 1209 00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.239 college basketball will tune in for the first and second 1210 00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.000 round Exactly. People who do not watch college basketball will say, 1211 00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.280 help me fill out my bracket. I have money on 1212 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.920 the line at my work pool. Like that is still 1213 00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.400 going on. You don't really get that in any other sport. 1214 00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:24.079 So I think that kind of transcends the cultural part 1215 00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:25.360 of sports in America. 1216 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:28.400 All Right, before we take a break a couple of 1217 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.320 minutes here with Ck, because we want to make sure 1218 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.920 that Trey isn't just tortured by his own thoughts. Let's go, 1219 00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:36.480 let's do him a favor and talk to RSL because 1220 00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.960 he's such a tortured person that if he hears his 1221 00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:41.440 talking soccer it might distract him from his own mental 1222 00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:43.519 illness and be happy for a moment. It was a 1223 00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:43.920 young boy. 1224 00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.400 Well I'm ready, but this was a prescient moment because 1225 00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:48.400 you knew, Trey knew that we were going to talk 1226 00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:49.039 about the lads. 1227 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:52.519 There's a compendium of things to talk about, shout out 1228 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.960 Gerald about RSL. First of all, let's just talk about 1229 00:57:56.000 --> 00:58:00.840 a positive result home opener MLS Seattle I can't win here, 1230 00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:03.760 which is pretty wild because very odd Like on paper, 1231 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.280 these two teams right now, Seattle should beat him every 1232 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.159 single time, agreed, But they roll in here and like 1233 00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.719 they always do, they couldn't get anything started and RSL 1234 00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:14.280 gets an own goal in the first half. Our guy 1235 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.239 Forrester right his second goal. 1236 00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:18.440 Maybe you have your foster kit yet. Maybe they don't 1237 00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.119 need a nine. Hey, I don't. And if you're listening, Tray, 1238 00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.880 I'm still waiting. Maybe they don't need a nine. My guy, 1239 00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:28.639 you're riding the good good vibess wave to nil. Yeah, 1240 00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:34.440 give me your thoughts. A very odd own goal. I 1241 00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:39.360 knew who looked knew who who is Sam Stayscal's favorite 1242 00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:42.119 MLS player of all time because he's so entertaining to 1243 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.679 watch and goofy as you could tell on that own goal. Yeah, 1244 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:48.800 gives him a gift. I'm sure that definitely settled the nerves. 1245 00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:51.760 I mean eight minutes in, Like you could imagine what 1246 00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:54.159 American first field would have looked like if it was 1247 00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.480 like the sixtieth minute and it's nil nil, it's the Riot. 1248 00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:01.559 Sorry at the Riot. I was gonna say aff but 1249 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:04.800 I mean it's a different looking team when Oheita and 1250 00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.360 Ellie are in the middle of the park together. Honestly, like, 1251 00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:10.400 for sure, I think they're just better. I thought Quintin 1252 00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.519 and Glad had a really good looking connected partnership. There 1253 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.239 wasn't a lot of disconnectivity there, like a lot of 1254 00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:22.199 strikers in previous games had maybe a little too much room. 1255 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.280 There wasn't a lot. And I know Seattle doesn't necessarily 1256 00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:27.159 play with the true number nine anyways, as you know, 1257 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.639 I mean Jordan Morris is really a true winger since 1258 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.159 they moved on from raul Ry Diaz. But they have 1259 00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:34.639 a ton of good players to throw out at opposing teams, 1260 00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:38.159 and they have so many diverse pieces now since adding 1261 00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:42.519 your guy. Heyes, Susperrera, Yeah, I mean kind of false 1262 00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:47.800 nine as you like to call Paul Ariola. Anyways, great result, 1263 00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:54.559 but you got to make the move soon, man, You 1264 00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.280 got to make the move soon, because these things take 1265 00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:00.760 so much longer than people think. Like Oursel would conceivably 1266 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.320 have a guy that they might have offered already, but 1267 01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:06.000 before you can get documents signed, before you start the 1268 01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:08.480 visa process. Like Donny said it on your show earlier 1269 01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:11.719 this week. Now, it's probably gonna be harder than ever 1270 01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:15.199 to get an impact player in at an optimal time 1271 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.519 because of the function of the government right now. So 1272 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:23.119 like you, basically you can't go into May with your 1273 01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:26.880 guy Forrester and rifpol as your two number nine. You 1274 01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:29.119 just can't. Is there a striker in Greenland that we 1275 01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:31.440 can look at or you know, based off the current line, 1276 01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:33.159 I'm just saying, I like, where your head's at. 1277 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:35.960 Well, the window closes late April, yeah, right, so we've 1278 01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:37.039 got about six weeks. 1279 01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:39.679 Right, But if you, if you, let's say you get 1280 01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:43.599 a move done mid April, how long before they get 1281 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.360 their visa? And then the acclamation process of training with 1282 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:48.599 people like you can't just come over here and be like, hey, 1283 01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:51.280 I'm waiting for my visa, like takes a long time. 1284 01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:53.880 It is pretty wild. I don't think I ever really 1285 01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:58.079 understood the process until Garth kind of outlet. He just 1286 01:00:58.159 --> 01:00:59.159 outlined everything to me. 1287 01:00:59.199 --> 01:00:59.639 He's like, this is. 1288 01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:01.760 Exactly he dumbs it down for us. Dum dumb he does, 1289 01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:03.480 he does, and you know, and. 1290 01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:05.800 Then you hear the horror stories of how many players 1291 01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:07.960 that they actually thought they had and it fell through 1292 01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:09.880 and it wasn't because the player didn't want to come 1293 01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:12.280 or they didn't want the player. There was some sort 1294 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.480 of piece of paperwork that didn't get done in time. 1295 01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:18.960 And then the window closes in You're screwed. It's a nine, right, 1296 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:20.239 Like it's got to be a nine. 1297 01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:21.760 It's got to be a nine. It maybe needs to 1298 01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:27.199 be another like ten or winger, because I know, I 1299 01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.559 don't know who. I don't know if Diogo has a 1300 01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:31.440 guy in our friend group. I don't know if like 1301 01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:33.639 Diogo is a JP guy, a FULK guy. 1302 01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:35.599 I think everybody's still waiting, right, Okay. 1303 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:39.800 My point is is that like he gives big time, 1304 01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:43.320 not even Robin vibes, like I don't even know what 1305 01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:47.760 this Robin's sidekick is, but like he is not playing 1306 01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:50.000 like the type of player that they're paying him to 1307 01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:54.719 be or paid for him. So if it's doable, I 1308 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.480 think RSL probably needs to make two big moves. I 1309 01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:00.679 think they need to bring bring in another winger or 1310 01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.519 central attacking player because you're gonna play a bunch of games. 1311 01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:10.400 And while the fans love Diego Luna, if Diego Luna 1312 01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:13.239 isn't here long term, who is going to be that 1313 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:17.519 that lynchpin in the attacking midfield dominic Mark Zuke, you know, 1314 01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:20.519 talented player has looked really good, but like he's I 1315 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:23.119 can't even think how many goals are assists he has 1316 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.480 since coming over to the club. Not many. I mean, 1317 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:29.880 Lachlan Brook seems just like a squad rotational player. If 1318 01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:33.199 you're going to compete in the Western Conference, you need 1319 01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:33.920 to have some dudes. 1320 01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:36.880 You need to have dudes who love ball. That's the 1321 01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.000 way I put it. Uh, Diego did have the assist 1322 01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:40.679 on my guy for it, and it was great. 1323 01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:42.320 It was a great ball. Yeah, But I'm just saying, 1324 01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:48.280 like killer mentality, instilling fear in the opponent. Not it, 1325 01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:50.679 definitely not it, And maybe it's there deep down. And 1326 01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:53.000 Donny had a good point, Like I watched him play 1327 01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.239 on those Copenhagen teams that were in Champions League and 1328 01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:57.840 he was a great player, but he was a role 1329 01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:00.360 player on those teams, Like he wasn't a guy who 1330 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:02.559 was like, Hey, we're going to bring in this dude 1331 01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:05.039 to dictate the pace of a game for ninety minutes. 1332 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:07.800 Fair enough before I set you loose. What do you 1333 01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:09.800 know about San Diego, Not the city, but the team 1334 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:10.800 RSL is playing that. 1335 01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:13.239 They've looked really, really good in the first two weeks. 1336 01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:17.199 They do not look like an expansion franchise. They beat 1337 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:20.039 La Galaxy on their home turf and the opener. I 1338 01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:22.440 think they were held to a draw last week in 1339 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:27.760 their home opener, but they have Chuq Chuqui Lozano who 1340 01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:30.119 is a Mexican national team star, and. 1341 01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:35.320 They will be no rollover for sure. San Diego has 1342 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:39.400 an MLS team. Why don't you throw your resume over there? 1343 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:41.880 What am I going to do there, dude, San Diego? Right, 1344 01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:44.519 I have the time I land in San Diego. I say, 1345 01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:45.280 why don't I live here? 1346 01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:48.639 Correct? But I'm going to counter this with this. Every 1347 01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:51.519 one of my friends who've ever worked for a club 1348 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:56.119 say it is very rewarding, but it is the most taxing, 1349 01:03:56.519 --> 01:04:01.559 tiresome job in exist. If you work for the Jazz, 1350 01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:03.719 you have to go to forty one home games, or 1351 01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:06.039 maybe eighty two. If you work for oursel, you have 1352 01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:08.079 to go to thirty four games, maybe thirty eight. 1353 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.800 I'm not doing that, man, dude, I'm you know, we 1354 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:15.079 can do an entire week of radio shows. 1355 01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:16.239 I'm telling why. 1356 01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:18.920 It is a complete farce that they have sold you 1357 01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:21.639 you want to work in sports so badly. They're going 1358 01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:25.000 to pay a thirty five K for ninety hours of work. 1359 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:26.679 Why do you think I do this every day? Why 1360 01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:28.440 do you think I do what I do too? 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Burt Brothers doing it better since day one. 1378 01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:20.000 Burt Brothers dot Com We Got Coach went on the 1379 01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.599 program coming up in about twenty five minutes from right now, 1380 01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:27.360 So stay tuned all your Utah football fans for the 1381 01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:29.920 head coach of the youths, Kyle Whittingham on the program today. 1382 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:32.199 We have made a little bit of an adjustment we have. 1383 01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:34.880 I am the manager. I'm on the sidelines, and I'm 1384 01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.599 waving Pablo off the pitch, and standing next to me 1385 01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.159 wearing number nine, of course, is Jason Christ and I've 1386 01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:45.920 decided to sob Jason in take Pablo off. Jason Christ 1387 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.239 on a Wednesday afternoon, Jay, how you doing, buddy. 1388 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.360 I'm doing great. It took me a minute to catch 1389 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:52.920 what you were laying down there. 1390 01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.719 Well, it usually does. I mean, that's part of our 1391 01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.000 relationship for the better part of twenty years. I'm just 1392 01:05:58.159 --> 01:05:58.639 kind of one. 1393 01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:02.599 Step ahead, right, Yeah, you definitely are. Your humor and 1394 01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:05.559 your wit is definitely one step ahead of where I'm at. 1395 01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:08.079 You know what, Thank you very much for that compliment. 1396 01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:09.119 That's never happened before. 1397 01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:09.440 Porter. 1398 01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:11.039 Will you clip that sound and send it to my 1399 01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:15.039 email please, I'd appreciate it. All right, Jay, let's start 1400 01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:18.440 with the good home open our MLS style. Seattle rolls 1401 01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:20.280 into town and you guys send them away with a 1402 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:22.920 two zero, win, the good, the bad? Would you like? 1403 01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:23.960 What didn't you like? 1404 01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.880 Please? Obviously please with the result. I think sometimes in 1405 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:32.840 this game you kind of would just take whatever result 1406 01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:36.280 you can get. I felt it's strangely so, I felt 1407 01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:39.840 that the group was under a bit of pressure, even 1408 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:42.159 though it's only our fourth game of this season and 1409 01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:45.320 our second MLS game. I think we've set a different 1410 01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.519 level of expectation amongst ourselves and amongst our fans that 1411 01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:51.679 we don't you know that we don't have three poor 1412 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.159 results in a row, and that's what we essentially had. 1413 01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.159 With the draw at Costa Rica perhaps being a semi 1414 01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.719 positive one, but then losing against Santos away and then 1415 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.159 losing the game and not advancing in concacaff I think 1416 01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:06.079 made us all a bit uneasy. So to get that 1417 01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:10.320 result against Seattle was very, very important. I don't I 1418 01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.800 wouldn't qualify the performance as one of our best, but 1419 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:16.519 I do think it was a very positive step for 1420 01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:20.239 the team and a positive reaction to come back off 1421 01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:23.599 those off those disappointments and get a much needed three points. 1422 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.599 If we were at a RSL season ticket holder dinner, 1423 01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.599 and I was an RSL season ticket holder, and you 1424 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.159 were speaking and they open it up for questions, I 1425 01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:35.920 might say something like, how can you tell me that 1426 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.079 you're taking CONCACAF seriously when you have two nines with 1427 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:45.400 very little professional experience and unfortunately unable to advance well. 1428 01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:48.039 I would say that there's a lot more that goes 1429 01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:52.760 into that than just the outside view that we don't 1430 01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:54.760 have an experience nine. The fact of the matters, we 1431 01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:57.440 thought we were going to have an experience nine. That's 1432 01:07:57.639 --> 01:07:59.800 why we made the trade with the Red Bulls in 1433 01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:02.800 the off season. In all of our free conversations with 1434 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:05.559 that player led us to believe that he was super 1435 01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:09.000 excited to come. So to find out later that he 1436 01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:11.280 wasn't going to come and didn't show up here for 1437 01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:14.039 a preseason puts us in a completely different different point 1438 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:16.880 of view. So what we had expected to be sort 1439 01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:20.319 of backup role players, young players coming off the bench 1440 01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:23.239 for us, now are players that we have to rely on. 1441 01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:24.760 And then put on top of that that one of 1442 01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.199 them gets injured the day before the first Readiano game, 1443 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:29.279 and now you've got one striker in your entire roster. 1444 01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:32.960 So it was not an ideal situation. But that doesn't 1445 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.920 mean that we didn't put our best foot forward and 1446 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:37.760 try to win those games, which I believe we did. 1447 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:41.760 So that leads to the next question. As a guy 1448 01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:43.680 who made a living and scoring a lot of goals 1449 01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:46.880 and looking forresters, had some bright moments. But your reference 1450 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:48.920 and I do want to talk to talk to you 1451 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:52.239 about the I think it's Ilias man well instead of Elias. 1452 01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:53.760 I want to talk to you about that in just 1453 01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:57.560 a moment. But where we at with the progress? Kurt 1454 01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:00.119 joined the program last week and said things are in 1455 01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:02.640 the works, and obviously fans wondering if the number nine 1456 01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:04.000 is on the way, are we getting close? 1457 01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.600 I don't know that I could qualify it as close, 1458 01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:11.680 but I would qualify and say that from what I see, 1459 01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:14.439 Curtis is working extremely hard and our scouting department is 1460 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:17.520 working extremely hard to get something over the line there. 1461 01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:19.840 But you know, I don't have a day by day 1462 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:22.319 check in on that situation. I just know that it's 1463 01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:26.399 a very obvious and apparent focus for our entire club 1464 01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:29.560 to get somebody in the door. I think that both 1465 01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:31.840 the two players that the both the two strikers that 1466 01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:34.199 we have in our roster have now played for us, 1467 01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:36.800 which is great because we wanted to see Arif play. 1468 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:38.760 I know I would like to see him play a 1469 01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:42.560 bit more before before kind of making any final judgments there. 1470 01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:45.520 And I think both players are useful. I don't know 1471 01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:48.479 that I would see, you know, either player at this 1472 01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:50.960 very moment being somebody that we should rely on to 1473 01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:52.960 be our weekend and week out starter and somebody that 1474 01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:56.119 we is going to be a focal point for our attack, 1475 01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:58.000 and somebody that we're going to rely on to score 1476 01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:01.000 those goals. So the work is being done, and I 1477 01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:03.239 believe that we will make a signing. It's just a 1478 01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:04.720 question of when that signing will happen. 1479 01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:08.039 Is it fair to say the expectation is prior to 1480 01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:10.880 the window that closes April thirtieth, you will have a 1481 01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:11.720 nine on the roster. 1482 01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:16.199 Again, I think that that's that's where we are headed, 1483 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:18.159 and that's our objective. I don't think there's any reason 1484 01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:20.159 to shy away from that. I just I just couldn't 1485 01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:24.239 promise without, you know, without any uncertainty that we won't 1486 01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:26.439 be successful, because you know, I've seen that happen many 1487 01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:28.960 time before, where you you try to make things happen 1488 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:30.960 and it just doesn't. And I think the Ultimately, one 1489 01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:32.520 of the mistakes that I've seen a lot of clubs 1490 01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:34.840 make is to put themselves in a situation where they 1491 01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:38.159 absolutely feel like they have to Because Garth was the 1492 01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:39.880 one that used to say it, probably more than me, 1493 01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:42.800 but you never want to do any harm. We don't 1494 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:44.439 want to sign a player that we don't really believe 1495 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:45.960 in and then having stuck on our roster for the 1496 01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:46.800 next several years. 1497 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:52.119 Any any thoughts on other acquisitions. We're hearing potentially a 1498 01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:54.920 winger on the way as well. Everybody's focused on the 1499 01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:56.960 nine as a result of the moves you made, and 1500 01:10:57.039 --> 01:10:59.960 as you reference the player who elected not to report, 1501 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.479 or but any other spots on the roster you guys 1502 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:03.239 are looking at too. 1503 01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:06.359 I think we're really focused on that one spence. I 1504 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:09.000 don't think we're looking a whole lot in other areas. 1505 01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:11.800 The good news is that you know whether or not 1506 01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.279 we make this signing, and hopefully we will. We still 1507 01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:17.720 have on top of that signing, we will have flexibility 1508 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.880 to improve this roster if we feel it's needed come 1509 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:20.640 the summer window. 1510 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:23.960 So you reference the situation, I thought it was Elias, 1511 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:25.960 but when Kurt joined the show, he said it's Ilias 1512 01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:30.640 so Ilias, Manuel, Manuel. You know, the news comes down 1513 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:32.760 that you guys have made the deal, the release goes out, 1514 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.600 everything looks official. What happened, Jay, from your vantage point, 1515 01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:37.680 how did this thing break down? 1516 01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:40.920 Well, first, I'll say that I think you and I 1517 01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:43.319 can call him Elias because we're not real happy with him. 1518 01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:49.840 Whatever we want fair enough. It's a really strange one. 1519 01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:53.319 I've never actually been a part of a club or 1520 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.119 a team where this situation, this kind of situation has happened. 1521 01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:59.800 Because we did our due diligence. We talked to lots 1522 01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:01.840 of people that have played with him, lots of people 1523 01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:04.520 that have coached him before. We spoke to the player 1524 01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:07.000 in depth about whether he was open to this move, 1525 01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:11.000 and so all of our diligence was done, and we 1526 01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:13.119 thought we had traded for a player that was happy 1527 01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:17.520 to come here. What was left at the table was 1528 01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:19.520 he had made the assumption that there would be a 1529 01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:22.960 brand new, shiny contract for him, and we were We 1530 01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:26.039 were not in that position. We were in a position 1531 01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:29.279 that you're an MLS player, and this is how trades happen. 1532 01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:31.279 You know, you come here and do well, then of 1533 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.960 course you know we will compensate you accordingly. But he's 1534 01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.560 on a contract for several more years. So it was 1535 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:40.119 just a complete shock to us that that would happen. 1536 01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:42.479 And then it comes to a point where you know, 1537 01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:44.600 you're just kind of you're saying to the player, you 1538 01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:46.640 know you should want to come here. We don't. We 1539 01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:48.439 don't feel like we have to talk you into it 1540 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:52.119 or convince you that that this is your very next 1541 01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:55.520 step should be. So ultimately, it all, it all broke down, 1542 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.640 and I think we came to a really good next option, 1543 01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:00.239 which was to sell him to a different club. 1544 01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:04.039 So help me understand, Jay, you know, as your reference, 1545 01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:07.199 you have transferred him to a Brazilian club. You transferred 1546 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:10.159 him to a club in Brazil. Does this essentially mean 1547 01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:12.560 that you guys came out more or less even on 1548 01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.199 the transaction. I mean, was everything kind of restored to 1549 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:16.000 where you wanted it to be. 1550 01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:19.319 Yeah? Absolutely, At the end of it, we sell it 1551 01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:22.520 very much that it was a zero sum thing for us. 1552 01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:24.800 We did en up against college picks out of the 1553 01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.199 situation that, you know, I think we'd say I feel 1554 01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:30.159 very good about two to three of those picks that 1555 01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:32.479 we made in a college draft this year, as far 1556 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:36.319 as becoming RSL first team number at some point and contributors. 1557 01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:38.000 So we had a very good draft and some of 1558 01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:40.880 that was because of that trade in fairness. 1559 01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:44.359 You know, Forrester sc scored a couple of goals. Now, 1560 01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:48.000 I think in the return match when Radiano was here, 1561 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:50.800 even though he got a goal, there were four or 1562 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:53.199 five opportunities where he just felt like he's got to 1563 01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:56.840 put that away. But because he is playing, and because 1564 01:13:56.920 --> 01:13:58.920 he has scored some goals, I mean, even though he 1565 01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:00.920 went to Duke, which you know doesn't take a big 1566 01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.479 IQ to get into Duke, we should give him a 1567 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.800 little bit of love. So what do you like about 1568 01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:06.600 this young striker? 1569 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:10.840 Well, what I like is that he went to Duke. Okay, 1570 01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:17.640 all right, now, I mean listen, he's he's got tools. 1571 01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:21.119 He's got tools, he's got size, he's got speed, he's 1572 01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:24.720 got strength, he's got he does have a very good 1573 01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:26.960 knock around the goal. When you watch him in training sessions, 1574 01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.920 he scores on a regular basis, whether that's small side games, 1575 01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:33.439 medium sized games, eleven v eleven in training he's a 1576 01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:38.079 regular scorer. So he's he's got that instinct, I believe. 1577 01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:42.439 Now I think he lacks a little bit of some 1578 01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:46.319 of the stuff that just comes with playing high level games, 1579 01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.600 a high number of high level games, and he will 1580 01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:54.199 only gain that through experience of playing regularly and playing 1581 01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.319 at at a high level. So but yeah, I mean 1582 01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:00.039 he's a he's an exciting player. I think we I 1583 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:01.479 saw the other night when he came off the bench 1584 01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.199 against Seattle. I mean that was a great scenario for him, 1585 01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:06.159 really really good scenario. When the game's a little bit 1586 01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:09.000 more open and the opponent's a little bit fatigued, he 1587 01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:10.479 can come in to make the difference and put the 1588 01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:10.880 game away. 1589 01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:14.119 So we had a Mecca on the show on Monday, 1590 01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:16.720 And every time I leave an interview with him, I 1591 01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:19.279 walk away just more and more impressed. I mean, he 1592 01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:22.640 has a maturity about him for a young man that 1593 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:26.479 is very impressive. And obviously he's got all kinds of game. 1594 01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:29.880 You once upon a time or the Captain's armband for RSL. 1595 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:34.039 That spot was filled admirably by the legend Kyle Beckerman, 1596 01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.279 And there have been some different options Demir and such. 1597 01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:39.880 What about a Mecca screams leadership to you, And why 1598 01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:41.840 do you think he's the right guy to wear that armband? 1599 01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:42.239 Right now. 1600 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.680 Well, I think, first and foremost, it just comes through 1601 01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:50.920 a Mecca's hunger to be a high level soccer player 1602 01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:53.279 and to be the absolute best professional soccer player that 1603 01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:58.279 he can be. He's he trains extremely hard. He you know, 1604 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:00.199 he comes in, he's the first one in the build bilding, 1605 01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:03.279 he's the last one to leave because he takes this 1606 01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:08.520 whole thing seriously. And then because of that, he leads 1607 01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:12.760 by example. We are definitely working with him to become 1608 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:14.720 a bit more of a vocal leader, a bit a 1609 01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:16.560 bit of a leader that can have more influence on 1610 01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:20.399 more players around him, that can understand and learn how 1611 01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:23.119 to direct the other players around him. You know, I 1612 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.199 look at him and think about I think about a 1613 01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.199 Kyle Beckerman, and I think about when Kyle Beckerman when 1614 01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:32.560 he first joined our club was a different Kyle Beckerman 1615 01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:35.880 than he was when he retired. And a lot of 1616 01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:38.720 that leadership capability and a lot of that strength, and 1617 01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:42.239 a lot of that ability to influence others and communicate 1618 01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.920 well with others and dictate where others needed to go 1619 01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:48.079 came through experience. And so I think that a Mecca 1620 01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:49.880 has a lot of same qualities. And you know, I 1621 01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:53.680 don't think there's any reason why he shouldn't be a 1622 01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:55.359 guy that could be here for the next ten years. 1623 01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:58.960 You guys decided to make a moving goal, and I've 1624 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.159 not been able to talk to you since then. Ratha 1625 01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:04.800 Cabral in Gad was sold. And then for some reason 1626 01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:07.680 Zach decided to wait until like two weeks before the 1627 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.279 season for surgery. But that you can let me complain 1628 01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:13.520 about that. But early returns Ratha Cabral and goal. 1629 01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:17.119 What do you say, Jay, I've been very, very impressed 1630 01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:20.039 with him, very impressed. I think he's been I think 1631 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:23.479 he's been good, arguably in all the games. Unfortunate that 1632 01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:27.439 you know he's he's obviously conceded. We've we've conceded four 1633 01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:30.159 goals against San Jose, we conceded a couple of goal 1634 01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:35.000 against Arediano. But you know, in my opinion that if 1635 01:17:35.079 --> 01:17:37.000 it had been a lesser goalkeeper between the pipes and 1636 01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:39.039 those games, that San Jose game could have been six. 1637 01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:42.560 So I think he made some fantastic saves. He's a 1638 01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:46.079 terroristic character. He speaks English perfectly. He's a leader in 1639 01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:51.399 the locker room. He's an unbelievable, unbelievably good professional and 1640 01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:53.720 a good family man. So I think that was a 1641 01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.800 great signing for us, and the early returns have been good. 1642 01:17:57.119 --> 01:18:00.560 Before we get a thought on San Diego, who you've 1643 01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:05.279 got coming up, you know, if we remove the dynamic 1644 01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:07.600 that you have right now at striker, if we just 1645 01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:10.079 kind of put that aside, and we all understand that 1646 01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:14.279 best laid plans aside, reinforcements are needed and potentially on 1647 01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:18.399 the way, there's a lot of depth everywhere else. Jay, 1648 01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:21.640 And you know, as a result of losing in Conky CAF, 1649 01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:24.039 you're not going to deal with the midweek stuff. But 1650 01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:25.920 how would you or at least for a while before 1651 01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:28.720 the Nation's whatever they're calling that Nation's Cup or whatever. 1652 01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:31.079 A lot of cups in this sport, But how would 1653 01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:34.800 you characterize the depth that you have on your roster 1654 01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:38.439 other than the striker position right now? A lot of 1655 01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:42.399 cups from too many cups, Jay, too many cups, too 1656 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:43.039 many cups. 1657 01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:46.520 Yeah, it's called League's Cup. I would say I would 1658 01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:49.319 agree with you. I mean the depths on this team 1659 01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:51.760 and the number of players that I think the coaches, 1660 01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:54.439 I always think about it this way, like how many 1661 01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:59.000 players can the first team? Coaches really rely on how 1662 01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:01.399 many do they feel like gat I don't have any 1663 01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:04.960 hesitation of starting that guy next week, and that number 1664 01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.520 is extremely high, and there's no doubt about it. I 1665 01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:10.399 think this team has been built really, really well. From 1666 01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:12.760 my perspective, this is the type of team that if 1667 01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:18.079 you added to one to two real difference makers, I 1668 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.600 think we're talking we're talking upper upper echelon. 1669 01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:21.800 Of the league. 1670 01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:26.199 That's how deep and strong I think the competitive nature 1671 01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:29.920 within this group is. That's how many high quality players 1672 01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:32.800 we have, and in a lot of positions. So I 1673 01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.159 think we're poised to make a few moves and become 1674 01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:40.399 really really elite, really really quickly. The best way for 1675 01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:43.239 me to describe really the roster would be this. You know, 1676 01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:45.680 I don't think last year the coaching staff had to 1677 01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:50.039 make one difficult decision about who made the twenty man 1678 01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:53.439 roster for a game, and this week they've already had 1679 01:19:53.479 --> 01:19:55.239 to make one. In our last game, they had to 1680 01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:57.560 leave out a player that started two of the first 1681 01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:01.199 three games for US this season. So they will have 1682 01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:04.000 to make difficult decisions every week, and that's a good thing, 1683 01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:05.520 all right, Jay. 1684 01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:08.039 Before I say you lose, I have not been grinding 1685 01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:11.520 on San Diego FC tape. So I will not pretend 1686 01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:13.159 that I know a thing about them, but they did 1687 01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:16.720 beat the Galaxy in their inaugural match, and they had 1688 01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:19.880 a draw with a pretty stout Saint Louis side. That's 1689 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:21.560 the next opponent. What do you know about them? 1690 01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:25.319 You know? The nice thing about that early afternoon game 1691 01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:27.000 last week was that I got to go home and 1692 01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:30.520 actually watch San Diego play at the night their first 1693 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:34.159 player home opener. Was very impressed, very very impressed. As 1694 01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:35.960 the team that likes to keep the ball, they build 1695 01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:38.000 out of the back all the time. I think they 1696 01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:41.359 have a very similar style and game model to us, 1697 01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:43.640 and that they want to be the dominant possession team 1698 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:46.000 and they want to create attacking goals coin chances from 1699 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:48.960 their own possession. So I'm looking forward to what I 1700 01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:51.880 think should be a high quality game on Saturday, and 1701 01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:56.039 I'm also looking forward to another positive three points for 1702 01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.199 RSL Jason Chrice. 1703 01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:00.640 You're just one of my favorite people friends. I just 1704 01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:04.000 appreciate the time. I think so highly of you, your intelligence, 1705 01:21:04.079 --> 01:21:07.640 your charisma, everything, So thanks for the time, man. 1706 01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:08.119 Be good. 1707 01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:09.319 That's in. 1708 01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:11.720 I wish my wife was this nice than me. That's 1709 01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:12.520 all I have to say. 1710 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.079 About that bes to Kim and the kids, see you buddy, 1711 01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:19.199 all right, Jason Christ so ourself back and actually at 1712 01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:22.640 San Diego, all right, show rolling along. It is not 1713 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:25.479 football season, but it's never a bad time to talk football, 1714 01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:28.079 because spring football for the utes. Right around the corner. 1715 01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:32.239 The headball coach himself, Kyle Whittingham on a Wednesday afternoon, 1716 01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:33.239 Coach wit, how. 1717 01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:36.239 Are you, sir doing well? Smithcer? How are you doing? 1718 01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:38.399 I'm doing really well. I always appreciate your time. So 1719 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:40.720 just kind of take us behind the scenes a little bit. 1720 01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:42.760 What's this time of year? Like, what are the boxes 1721 01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:44.680 you're trying to check? Prior to the beginning to spring 1722 01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:45.279 ball here in. 1723 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:49.359 Just a couple of weeks, well, last couple of months, 1724 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:51.680 we've been in what we call winter player development. It's 1725 01:21:52.199 --> 01:21:55.680 primarily in the weight room, you know, getting bigger, faster 1726 01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:58.520 and stronger, and then on the field doing agility work 1727 01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:00.640 and that type of thing and mixed in with some 1728 01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:03.479 football walkthroughs at the NCO allows you to do. So 1729 01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:08.720 that's been since they got back in early January for 1730 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:12.760 school up until next week. Will we go into spring break, 1731 01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:14.439 that'll put an end to that. Then when we get 1732 01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:17.000 back from spring break, we have a couple days of 1733 01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:20.359 review and then we start spring ball on Thursday, the 1734 01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:21.159 twentieth of March. 1735 01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:23.479 You know, it's no secret, coach that you guys have 1736 01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:26.720 a lot of roster change over, and even when you 1737 01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:28.560 have good years, now you're gonna have a lot of 1738 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:31.600 roster changeover because of the nature of the sport. How's 1739 01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:34.119 the process been to get the new coaches up to 1740 01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:36.439 speed with what you want them to do and get 1741 01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:39.960 the new players to understand as you always say, mentally 1742 01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:41.920 they need to understand what you're asking them to do, 1743 01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:44.720 and physically they need to be capable of doing those things. 1744 01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:47.119 What's the process like integrating the new pieces. 1745 01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:52.359 I think, relatively speaking to where we are in relative 1746 01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:54.079 to the time of year, I think we're right on track. 1747 01:22:54.159 --> 01:22:57.920 We've got the offense essentially put in and now it's 1748 01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.680 just reviewing it and making sure we, you know, get 1749 01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.840 his mental opportunity to expose him to it as possible. 1750 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:07.039 It's been a very good transition with the new coaches. 1751 01:23:07.119 --> 01:23:09.880 We have three new coaches on the offensive side, and 1752 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.680 of course with coach Beck and his new scheme that 1753 01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:16.199 he's brought in, the players have really embraced that defensively. 1754 01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:18.640 Pretty much business as usual, you know, no change over there. 1755 01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:22.439 The scheme has remained the same for years and years, 1756 01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:25.359 and it's you know, as far as the basics, we 1757 01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:28.000 tweak a little bit here and there, but I think 1758 01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:30.840 based on you know, where we are early March as 1759 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:32.399 a team right now, we're in good shape. 1760 01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.399 So we had Jason Beck on the show. It was 1761 01:23:35.439 --> 01:23:37.479 funny get to know him not too long ago, and 1762 01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:40.720 I asked him the question, Kyle point blank, is Devin 1763 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:43.560 Dampierre your starting quarterback? And he said he is. So 1764 01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:47.119 I will take the opportunity to ask you. For a 1765 01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:49.680 fan base that's always wondering who's going to be starting 1766 01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:52.520 to understand the plan moving forward? Is Devin right, Devin 1767 01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:53.439 Dampier under center? 1768 01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:56.520 Well, if we played today, he would be the guy. 1769 01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:59.920 So he's obviously got a great grasp of the offense 1770 01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:03.800 having been in it in years past, and so it's 1771 01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:06.760 nothing new to him. He's like having another coach on 1772 01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:11.159 the field right now. He's just you know, completely versed 1773 01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:14.319 in what we're doing and so you know, he's doing 1774 01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:18.279 a great job. Isaac Wilson is really entrenched right now. 1775 01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:20.239 Is number two now that's not to say that can't 1776 01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:24.000 change because everything's a competition. But Isaac has done a 1777 01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:26.479 nice job assimilating the new offense as well. 1778 01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:28.600 You know, it's interesting, Kyle, I'm sure you know this. 1779 01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:31.840 More than a dozen teams have straight up canceled their 1780 01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:35.800 spring game. The latest to do it, Oklahoma is changing 1781 01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:38.479 their just kind of there the way they go about it, 1782 01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:43.760 but USC, Alabama, Ohio, State, Texas, Nebraska as well, they've 1783 01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:46.159 just punted on spring games. Is that anything you guys 1784 01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:48.319 have discussed up there as far as what to do 1785 01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:49.079 with the spring game. 1786 01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:53.439 Absolutely, and that's still a discussion. And right now as 1787 01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:56.439 we speak, a spring game in its format that our 1788 01:24:57.159 --> 01:24:59.680 fans and players are used to through the years is 1789 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:05.159 still in place that could be subject to change based 1790 01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:07.359 on it how things go through spring, you know, if 1791 01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:10.000 we get thin at certain positions or you know, there's 1792 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:13.239 things that can change that. And so at the moment, 1793 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.119 spring game is is a go. But I'm not going 1794 01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.199 to rule it out just you know, circumstantially down the 1795 01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:20.720 road depending on what happens. 1796 01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:23.800 Well, And look, I wouldn't blame I don't want to 1797 01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:25.800 see it go away because ultimately all of us just 1798 01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:28.640 enjoy the spring celebration of your program and covering the 1799 01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:31.039 game and just kind of being together and talking football 1800 01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:33.399 is the fun thing we get to do as far 1801 01:25:33.479 --> 01:25:35.960 as my little spot in this ecosystem. But I completely 1802 01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:40.479 understand Kyle, because the roster limit changes things, right, I mean, 1803 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:43.960 one oh five on game day and at last count 1804 01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:45.800 you had one oh nine that might be uped as 1805 01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:48.720 of now. So is the new roster limit something that 1806 01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:50.319 you have to keep in mind? I mean you always 1807 01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:52.239 have to keep player safety in mind. In the past 1808 01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:54.399 couple of years, you guys have just been riddled with 1809 01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:57.640 bad luck and bad injuries. How does the new roster 1810 01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:00.159 limit change? It feels like walk on to oh on 1811 01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:01.960 a way, Right, You're going to get scholarships for all 1812 01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:04.800 your players, But how does the new roster limit change 1813 01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:06.560 the way you have to approach your job. 1814 01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:12.640 Well, it's a big impact and the roster limit as 1815 01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:15.079 of now, nothing is set completely in stone, but it's 1816 01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:18.199 looking like the roster limit will need to be adhered 1817 01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:21.600 to by your first contest, which would be August thirtieth 1818 01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:24.560 for US, the UCLA game, and so we would be 1819 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:28.000 able to train more than the one oh five during 1820 01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:31.720 summer summer conditioning and then during fall camp, but then 1821 01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:33.680 you have to be at one oh five. So essentially 1822 01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:37.199 you're going to have to make some cuts after fall 1823 01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:39.439 camp to get to that one oh five number, because 1824 01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:41.119 I don't know anyone that's going to go into fall 1825 01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:43.520 camp with one oh five because if you get guys 1826 01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.920 injured and you don't have guys in the bullpen, so 1827 01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:49.199 to speak, you're not going to be able to be 1828 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:51.880 at one oh five healthy bodies. And so most teams 1829 01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:53.840 I believe, will go into fall camp with one hundred 1830 01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:56.079 and twenty hundred and twenty five guys, and then when 1831 01:26:56.119 --> 01:26:58.760 you get to that first game, there'll be you know, 1832 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:01.640 a certain amount that of weed it themselves out due 1833 01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:04.439 to season ending injuries, and hopefully not not many, but 1834 01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:07.720 it's it's it's you know, bound to happen to some teams, 1835 01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:10.399 and then you just choose your best one oh five 1836 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:12.680 at that point, and unfortunately, there's gonna be some guys 1837 01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:15.840 that worked hard through camp that just aren't going to 1838 01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:18.319 have that opportunity. And that's how you have to do it, because, 1839 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:19.840 like I said, if you start at one oh five, 1840 01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:22.520 you know, just through attrition, you're gonna you're gonna fall 1841 01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:25.279 below that, and you know that's already a razor thin 1842 01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:27.640 number to be able to operate. So so to me, 1843 01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:30.479 that's how most teams are gonna go about it well. 1844 01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.199 And you know, Kyle, if you're able to win the 1845 01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:35.800 conference and make make it to the postseason and be 1846 01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:38.479 a playoff team, you could play seventeen or eighteen games, 1847 01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:42.079 and without the ability to add two during the season, 1848 01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:45.800 that feels like a small group. I know listeners are 1849 01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:47.600 probably think one hundred and five, that's plenty of players. 1850 01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:50.359 But this is not a contact sport, coach, as you know, 1851 01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:53.000 this is a violent sport, and every week you're gonna 1852 01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:56.279 lose guys, and so without the ability to add two 1853 01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:58.920 during the season, does one o five feel a little 1854 01:27:58.920 --> 01:27:59.600 bit low to you? 1855 01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:05.039 Very much so? And it was, you know, our understanding 1856 01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:08.399 initially was that you had the one oh five, you know, 1857 01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:10.439 in the first game, and then if you had season 1858 01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:13.000 ending injuries, you could replace those guys. Now they're saying, no, 1859 01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:15.319 that's not going to be the case. And so that 1860 01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:18.039 one oh five can get you know, into the high 1861 01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:22.000 to mid nineties real quick. And you know, college football 1862 01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:24.399 we have you know, pretty much everybody operates with the 1863 01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:27.920 scout teams that you know give the look. You know, 1864 01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:30.359 your scout defense gives the offensive look, and vice versa. 1865 01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:33.800 And so as you start to creep those numbers down, 1866 01:28:34.279 --> 01:28:36.560 you're gonna have to think about more of an NFL 1867 01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:38.920 model where it's self serve, where the offense services of 1868 01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.600 the defense and vice versa, rather than having the full 1869 01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:42.439 on scout teams. 1870 01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:45.840 How has the new model changed your job day to day? 1871 01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:47.800 Because I was thinking about this. You know, you obviously 1872 01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:51.159 have Robert Blacken as your general manager. Is there a 1873 01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:53.600 portion of this coach that has taken a little bit 1874 01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:55.880 off your plate because you have to have other people, 1875 01:28:56.680 --> 01:28:58.279 you know, more of a pro model with some of 1876 01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:00.359 the guys that are in charge of the find answers, 1877 01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.279 guys that are in charge of recruiting. You've always had 1878 01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:05.319 recruiting coordinators. But does hiring a guy like Robert as 1879 01:29:05.399 --> 01:29:07.520 your GM and the infrastructure you have in place, does 1880 01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:11.039 it actually allow you to maybe focus more on coaching 1881 01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:13.560 than you know, having to be in charge of literally 1882 01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:17.479 every piece of information and every piece of logistics when 1883 01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:18.359 it comes to Utah. 1884 01:29:18.159 --> 01:29:21.800 Football, Well, it's helped the assistant coaches stay out of it. 1885 01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:24.000 They've been able to stay out at the business end, 1886 01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:26.600 and they just focus on making each guy in their 1887 01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:29.039 room better and in coaching them up and getting them 1888 01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:32.279 ready for the season. I still have my hand in everything, 1889 01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:34.520 and that's not going to change. I mean, I don't 1890 01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:37.680 know any head coach in the country that's at least 1891 01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:42.680 right now going to completely turn over personnel to this. Again, 1892 01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:44.920 at the collegiate level. Pro level is a whole different deal, 1893 01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:48.840 and you have those full blown personnel departments. We're still 1894 01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:51.640 building that. You know, we don't have a you know, 1895 01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:53.840 quite demand power yet that we would need to be 1896 01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:57.159 able to do that. But as the head coach in college, 1897 01:29:57.239 --> 01:29:59.359 you're going to find most of us, most of the 1898 01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:04.479 head coaches completely involved in personnel decisions and making sure 1899 01:30:04.520 --> 01:30:06.640 they're monitoring what's going on on that side of the 1900 01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:09.640 ball as well as the pure football end of it. 1901 01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:12.479 But again for assistant coaches, we try to keep them 1902 01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:14.520 completely out of the business end and just in the 1903 01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:15.119 football end. 1904 01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:19.319 I see, how are you, as a delegator coach getting better? 1905 01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:23.880 You know, it's been a process, yeah, and twenty one 1906 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:25.920 years into it now, I guess I've learned a few 1907 01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:31.680 things in that regard and I'm more, you know, just 1908 01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:34.760 letting a few things go, not letting them go, but 1909 01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:38.079 turning them over to other people and just being able 1910 01:30:38.119 --> 01:30:40.680 to trust them and make sure, you know, I feel 1911 01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:42.399 good about that it's going to get done. And that's 1912 01:30:42.760 --> 01:30:45.439 that's been something that you know, I have gotten better 1913 01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:47.239 and I still could probably do a better job of it, 1914 01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:50.840 but you know, just I am who I am, but 1915 01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:53.399 I'd say I've made improvement in that area. 1916 01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:56.439 Catching up a coach with headball coach U Taugh football 1917 01:30:56.479 --> 01:30:59.239 a couple weeks away from Utah springball, you reference UCLA 1918 01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:01.960 opening game. Haven't been able to kick the ties with 1919 01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:05.159 you on the schedule since I came out. But my 1920 01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:09.880 main question is October eighteenth, Saturday at BUYU. I just 1921 01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:12.000 I don't know. For me, coach, I feel like that 1922 01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:14.319 should be during rivalry week. I like it either beginning 1923 01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:16.239 or the end, and it's smack dab in the middle 1924 01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:19.319 of October. What were your thoughts when you saw the 1925 01:31:19.399 --> 01:31:22.279 release and the game against Brigham Young was October eighteenth. 1926 01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:24.840 Well, it wasn't the first thing I looked at. I 1927 01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:28.039 can tell you that it's obviously we take them in 1928 01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:30.680 order as they as they unfold. And we've got a 1929 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:33.239 big one at UCLA on the thirtieth against a really 1930 01:31:33.239 --> 01:31:36.079 good Big Ten opponent. I mean, they struggled last year, 1931 01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:38.319 but there's no shortest of personnel down there, I can 1932 01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:41.359 promise you that. And so they'll be athletic, they'll be fast, 1933 01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:44.000 they'll be well coached, and so it'd be the second 1934 01:31:44.039 --> 01:31:47.199 year in their coach Foster. And you know, we got 1935 01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:50.000 to be turning all our attention, all our you know, 1936 01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:53.439 all our focus on that obviously. But you're right, you know, 1937 01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:56.359 we do have a rivalry game, and it would seem 1938 01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:58.680 to make sense that would be put at the end 1939 01:31:58.680 --> 01:32:02.159 of the season. But so far the Big twelve has 1940 01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:03.960 not got to that point yet. I don't I haven't 1941 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:05.840 had discussion with him and say, you know why, But 1942 01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:10.199 right now, that's something that they have not implemented. 1943 01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:13.039 I wonder if this moves the needle for you at all, 1944 01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:15.560 because obviously the leaders of the SEC and the Big 1945 01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:18.680 Ten continue to meet without everybody else in college football, 1946 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:20.760 to dictate what the future of college football is going 1947 01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:22.279 to look like, and there it seems like they're kind 1948 01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:24.680 of calling the shots. They want to expand the CFP 1949 01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:28.079 with more aqs for their conferences. And obviously, and you've 1950 01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:30.520 been front facing and honest about this. If you are 1951 01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:33.239 not part of that lunch table, you and you're in 1952 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:35.520 a safe landing spot at and P four conference. But 1953 01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:38.000 is there any concern as a member of the Big 1954 01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:40.319 twelve what the Big ten and the SEC seem to 1955 01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:42.239 continue to try to do with this power play? 1956 01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:45.520 Well, I don't know if concerns the right word, but 1957 01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:47.640 I think that we don't have much say. I mean, 1958 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:51.079 they're they're they're the power brokers and and that's just 1959 01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:54.439 how it is, and and they're going to, you know, 1960 01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:56.800 be the ones that call most the shots. I don't 1961 01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:59.640 I don't see any other way around that. I would 1962 01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:03.279 like it to get to sixteen teams as full Bowl playoff. 1963 01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:06.039 And I've been saying that they will get there eventually 1964 01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:08.119 for a lot of years, and people say, oh, it's 1965 01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:10.000 not going to be you know, for several years. But 1966 01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:13.079 here here we're looking at going from twelve to sixteen, 1967 01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:16.199 you know, very soon. And so we'll see what happens. 1968 01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:19.119 But answer your question, I mean, they're the guys that 1969 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:23.000 have the most clout, have the most say, and that's 1970 01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:25.880 just you know, at least at the present and during 1971 01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:28.920 the present time in this president setup, that is not 1972 01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:30.560 going to change in the foreseeable future. 1973 01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:32.520 All right, coach, before I say you loose, I aw 1974 01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:35.960 was appreciate your time. You know, I didn't cover the 1975 01:33:36.079 --> 01:33:38.199 story of whether or not you would come back very 1976 01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:41.279 much because in my mind, Mike, he's a coach that's 1977 01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:44.520 under contract. He simply could just continue to coach. It's 1978 01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:47.560 his job. But there was a release that was made 1979 01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:49.960 indicating that you were coming back. So I just for 1980 01:33:50.039 --> 01:33:52.000 our listeners, I think they would be very curious to 1981 01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:56.359 know what you juggled after the season, what you kind 1982 01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:58.880 of processed, what you went through before landing on Yes, 1983 01:33:59.000 --> 01:33:59.920 I want to keep doing that. 1984 01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:03.920 Yes, well, you juggle everything, and you and your process everything, 1985 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:07.239 and so it's it's not any one thing. I can 1986 01:34:07.319 --> 01:34:10.680 tell you. One of the overriding factors, and one of 1987 01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:14.560 the more factors that was way more heavily was you know, 1988 01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:16.520 the disappointing season that we had and the way that 1989 01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:19.880 things unfolded and and get into our fifth QB and 1990 01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:21.960 all that stuff. I me, it was just very frustrating. 1991 01:34:22.079 --> 01:34:24.840 But but again, nobody feels sorry for us. I'm not 1992 01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:28.640 trying to to uh you know, create create sympathy or 1993 01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:32.000 anything like that. It was just as frustrating as things were. 1994 01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:34.359 It you know, would have left a bad taste in 1995 01:34:34.439 --> 01:34:37.680 my mouth to have that be the you know, the 1996 01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:40.399 final goal around and so that that was a big factor. 1997 01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:44.680 But again everything was involved my energy levels. Uh, you know, 1998 01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:47.119 what's best for the program and that that ultimately is 1999 01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:49.199 the most important thing, is what's best for the program 2000 01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:53.000 going forward. And uh that's uh, you know, that was 2001 01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:54.560 a big part of the decision. 2002 01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:58.479 Swinging a golf club at all. Say that again, you 2003 01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:00.560 swinging a golf club at all yet you're just waiting 2004 01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:00.960 for the weather. 2005 01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:04.640 Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, not yet. That'll that'll come after 2006 01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:07.319 spring ball. But you know through through the end of 2007 01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:09.079 spring ball. It's all football, all. 2008 01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:10.520 Right, my friend, Well, thank you so much for the time. 2009 01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:12.479 As always, it's always a pleasure. Best of luck and 2010 01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:13.600 hopefully we can do it again soon. 2011 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:15.840 Okay, Spencer, appreciate it. 2012 01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:19.039 There is coach wait, head coach of the Utah football program. 2013 01:35:19.159 --> 01:35:21.239 We are just a couple of weeks away from spring ball. 2014 01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:27.439 Interesting stuff there, as Kyle, you know, he he indicated 2015 01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:30.640 that the conversations going on around Utah, right now do 2016 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:34.640 include potentially shifting away from the what Utah calls a 2017 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.000 twenty two forever game the spring game. I've always enjoyed 2018 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:40.239 the spring game. I've always enjoyed spring football. I mean 2019 01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:42.760 from a content creation standpoint. When you're covering the team 2020 01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:45.479 as a sports socc radio host, you always just want 2021 01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:48.840 things to talk about. But Oklahoma became the latest team 2022 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:52.439 to adjust their spring football kind of ethos. They're gonna 2023 01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:54.039 have a spring football event, but it's not going to 2024 01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:58.399 be a game. As of now, USC Alabama, Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma, 2025 01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:02.880 and Nebraska have either canceled or shifted their spring game paradigm. 2026 01:36:03.239 --> 01:36:05.199 And I get it, man, one oh five roster limit. 2027 01:36:05.319 --> 01:36:08.720 You know, that's down from about one twenty eight. Every 2028 01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:11.000 player will be able to receive a scholarship. It does 2029 01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:14.359 eliminate walk ons, which is thirty percent of college football. 2030 01:36:14.359 --> 01:36:17.279 There'll be about two thousand kids that don't get to 2031 01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:20.880 play college football this fall because of the new roster limit. 2032 01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.079 So some challenges for coach Wit and that's staff up there, 2033 01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:25.840 but I always appreciate his time. So we roll on 2034 01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:27.760 coming up on the other side on a Wednesday drive 2035 01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:32.279 right here on ESPN seven hundred. All right, that'll do it. 2036 01:36:32.479 --> 01:36:34.960 Final segment of the program today, and Porter, I hate 2037 01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:37.079 to tell you this, man, but uh, I'm out. 2038 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:40.640 I've had it. Can't take it anymore, dude, four hours 2039 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:43.079 of this every day for basically twenty years. No, I'm 2040 01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:45.159 I got to figure out something else do with my time. 2041 01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:48.000 So so I'll listen to all the listeners. Thanks so 2042 01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:51.680 much for all you've done and your support, but I'm gone. Man, 2043 01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:52.199 that's enough. 2044 01:36:52.319 --> 01:36:54.520 Are you gonna start like a wellness retreat or something 2045 01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:55.319 I should? 2046 01:36:56.079 --> 01:37:00.960 I should become a corcial media wellness influencer. Males that 2047 01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:02.960 make over one hundred and fifty k a year, Okay, 2048 01:37:03.159 --> 01:37:06.600 do it. You see our guy John Matson, he's doing 2049 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:08.840 well for himself now. He's a fitness coach and if 2050 01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:10.479 you make one hundred and fifty grand a year, he'll 2051 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:16.520 teach you that exercise. Yeah, elite clientele only, indeed, indeed, indeed. 2052 01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:19.279 So that's it. I've had it. You can take this 2053 01:37:19.439 --> 01:37:21.840 job and shove it. Just kidding. I'll be back Monday, 2054 01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:24.920 but I am out tomorrow. I am out on Friday. 2055 01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:26.840 I love this job, I love our listeners, I love 2056 01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:29.920 doing this every day, but I am going down to 2057 01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:32.119 a very cool thing. I have never been to a 2058 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:35.079 PGA Tour event before, and I'll be at bay Hill 2059 01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:37.800 for Arnie's tournament, and you gotta check that with my brother, 2060 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:40.720 so pretty excited. So I will be out tomorrow and Friday. 2061 01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:44.600 Scott Mitchell and Porter Larson will have you covered, So 2062 01:37:45.159 --> 01:37:47.359 enjoy it. Make sure to give them your ears and 2063 01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.239 your attention. So Porter, the table is yours. What comes 2064 01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:52.560 our way on a Thursday edition of this radio show. 2065 01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:55.079 Yeah, obviously, as you mentioned, Scott will be fill in 2066 01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:57.399 for you. He'll be at Overtime Cards and Collectibles live 2067 01:37:57.479 --> 01:37:59.640 out out there in Sandy, So if you want to be, 2068 01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:03.119 if you want to meet the lefty Scott Mitchell, he 2069 01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:07.000 will be live from Overtime Cards and Collectible Sam Bruckhouse 2070 01:38:07.279 --> 01:38:11.279 talking some NFL draft, Tony Jones, talking some basketball. Will 2071 01:38:11.319 --> 01:38:13.760 of course get the latest on the run youthes, maybe 2072 01:38:13.800 --> 01:38:17.359 some spring football with Scott and then maybe maybe force 2073 01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:19.279 him to talk a little hockey too with our friend 2074 01:38:19.399 --> 01:38:22.520 Neil Smith, and we'll go from there. Also on remote 2075 01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:25.000 on a Friday. We'll let you guys know about that 2076 01:38:25.079 --> 01:38:25.520 as it goes. 2077 01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:28.079 All right there you go, so enjoy Scott and Porter 2078 01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:31.319 Thursday and Friday, and I'll be back Monday. Love you 2079 01:38:31.960 --> 01:38:34.199 I was teasing, Love the job, love the listeners, and 2080 01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:34.800 we'll do. 2081 01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:35.119 It for us. 2082 01:38:35.119 --> 01:38:37.760 Special thank you to Chris com Ronnie, Jason Christ and 2083 01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:40.159 Coach Witt. If you miss any of the sound website, 2084 01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:43.199 podcast page app all the things. He's Porter. I'm Spence. 2085 01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:45.600 Enjoy your Wednesday night. Talk to you on Monday, Porter 2086 01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:48.760 and Scott tomorrow on Friday. Right here on ESPN seven 2087 01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:49.119 hundred