Speaker 1: Oh bed of the Aird.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan. I'm Jacob, and
Speaker 2: today is a very special episode. Good people. We uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't even know where to begin with
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. It's almost you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: gonna be weird, Jacob, I mean, can you just help
Speaker 2: the cult members fill them in a little bit. I'm
Speaker 2: almost getting a little emotional just thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this is kind of the end of an era,
Speaker 3: but also the beginning of a new one.
Speaker 4: So good cult members out there.
Speaker 3: Jonathan and I have been doing this for over five
Speaker 3: years now, right, started off as a little hobby. Well,
Speaker 3: Jonathan started the podcast he and a friend and literally
Speaker 3: as just for the fuck of it, you know, hobbies,
Speaker 3: fun things, and that friend really wasn't consistent as far
Speaker 3: as showing up and everything. And so Jonathan and I
Speaker 3: hooked up from a mutual friend slash brother in law,
Speaker 3: and we just kind of hit it off and made
Speaker 3: this into a thing, you know. And over the course
Speaker 3: of the last few years, Jonathan and I have come
Speaker 3: to certain agreements on certain things, certain disagreements on certain things,
Speaker 3: and that's always what's made the show what it is.
Speaker 3: Right that being said, Jonathan came to me about two
Speaker 3: months ago and said, I feel that my heart is
Speaker 3: pulling me in a different direction, and I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: honest with you, I didn't even know what to make
Speaker 3: of it. Really, this has become our livelihood, this has
Speaker 3: become our career path, all these things. But Jonathan has
Speaker 3: decided that he wants to go more into the esoteric,
Speaker 3: the metaphysic, the spiritual, the occult as far as the
Speaker 3: content creation world goes. And side tangent to that would
Speaker 3: be that he doesn't feel like he will have enough
Speaker 3: time in the day to also have a whole other
Speaker 3: podcast that's putting out the amount of content that we do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I started Metamistics, well formally Meta Mysteries,
Speaker 2: but now Metamistics. I started that a little over two
Speaker 2: years ago. And I really wanted to start that because
Speaker 2: I wanted to be able to have some kind of
Speaker 2: back and forth banter as far as getting to understand
Speaker 2: the mystical, the esoteric, the occult to a deeper degree.
Speaker 2: And some people just really aren't about that symbolism. And
Speaker 2: that's totally fine, you know, like that's everybody has their
Speaker 2: own flavor, but I found my own personal spiritual understanding
Speaker 2: through it, and I would like to be able to
Speaker 2: keep on broadening that that is. You know, the thing
Speaker 2: is is that over here on the cult there is
Speaker 2: there's a lot of listeners that have certain beliefs, and
Speaker 2: some of my beliefs go against those beliefs. And I
Speaker 2: actually feel like, over the course of the past few years,
Speaker 2: the deeper I've been getting into the spiritual and esoteric
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, that some people have started to distance
Speaker 2: themselves from the cult. And that's the last thing I want,
Speaker 2: because this was always meant to be an open dialogue.
Speaker 2: It was always meant to be fun entered digging deep
Speaker 2: looking into you know, every single conspiracy We're coming up
Speaker 2: on a thousand fucking episodes, dude, A thousand, Like that
Speaker 2: is an absurd number if you really think about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, we we probably got a little over two
Speaker 2: thousand hours worth of conspiracy shows. And that's not including
Speaker 2: and that's not including you know, all the time that
Speaker 2: it took to h to go and research all of it,
Speaker 2: and uh, the editing and the posting and the all
Speaker 2: of everything. There's a lot of time, a lot of
Speaker 2: effort that goes into this. There was a lot of
Speaker 2: time that you know, we we took away from our
Speaker 2: families to be able to really give our pure heart
Speaker 2: and souls to this, and and we made some amazing
Speaker 2: memories along the way, a lot of great friends we've
Speaker 2: made along the way. There's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: we were introduced to and that we introduced ourselves to
Speaker 2: that we never would have gotten to meet of the
Speaker 2: course of the past few years if it wasn't for
Speaker 2: this show. I mean, the conventions that we've gone to
Speaker 2: and we got to meet some of the cult members
Speaker 2: in person. I mean just amazing. I mean, and what
Speaker 2: a beautiful way to live life, you know, to be
Speaker 2: that involved with the community of thousands of people. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was, I mean, this is has it has been
Speaker 2: a dream like honestly, like this is There's people that
Speaker 2: got to get up and fucking go mix cement every day,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, there's people that got
Speaker 2: to get up and go work in the plant every day.
Speaker 2: And what we'd get to do is be behind a
Speaker 2: microphone and talk to all of our friends, me and
Speaker 2: you being best friends. I mean, it is just a
Speaker 2: fucking hangout. And that's what we've been able to do,
Speaker 2: you know, the over the course of the last five
Speaker 2: plus years. It's just been amazing.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it sounds unreal, like out loud on paper. Even
Speaker 3: family members are like, so you just what does your
Speaker 3: workday look like? And it's like, I could tell you.
Speaker 3: You're gonna think I'm lying to you, but I could
Speaker 3: tell you it's basically do hours worth of research into
Speaker 3: a certain topic, talk showing my best friend for three
Speaker 3: hours and scene and there we go on to the
Speaker 3: next thing, and they're like that that is.
Speaker 4: Fucking bullshit, and I'm like, listen, I don't understand it either.
Speaker 2: But here we are, Oh dude, the Internet is crazy,
Speaker 2: and somehow we found a way to crack the code
Speaker 2: of the matrix and be able to like what a
Speaker 2: what a fucking if this doesn't prove that we live
Speaker 2: in a simulation, Like honestly, like this is what I
Speaker 2: think about. I'm like, think about everybody else that you
Speaker 2: know is complaining about their jobs and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and here we are a couple of dickheads behind the
Speaker 2: behind some microphones and just live in our best life
Speaker 2: and it's been like, we can't we can't even say
Speaker 2: that we've done it all on our own. It's because
Speaker 2: of the good cult members that have been sharing it
Speaker 2: and and you know, all of the interactions that we've
Speaker 2: had and the open conversations that we've had. You know,
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times we we've changed
Speaker 2: course just because of information. You know, our our beliefs
Speaker 2: in a lot of things have evolved immensely, you know,
Speaker 2: whether it's the political system, whether it's the CIA, whether
Speaker 2: it's Donald Trump coming in to save the day. Nothing
Speaker 2: can stop what is coming and all that shit. I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: we live streamed the presidential debates. We live streamed the
Speaker 2: final hours of leading up to you know, people winning
Speaker 2: or losing elections. And just the amount of hours that
Speaker 2: even the amount of hours that we spent every Tuesday
Speaker 2: night for the cult member live shows, Spirit Animal, Sam
Speaker 2: and fucking you know, Dougie Blunkin and all the amazing
Speaker 2: people out there. I mean, just we've.
Speaker 4: Got crazy correspondence.
Speaker 3: Now do we have like a resident Jewish correspondent, a
Speaker 3: resident furry correspondent, a resident trans correspondent. We got the
Speaker 3: Spirit Animal. I think we have a resident lesbian correspondent.
Speaker 3: We just we're all over the place, honestly, And that's.
Speaker 4: To your point.
Speaker 3: We have been an all inclusive cult for so long.
Speaker 3: We really don't care what political ideations you have. We
Speaker 3: don't care who you're taking to bed, as long as
Speaker 3: they're a consenting adult. Like we you know, we we
Speaker 3: might talk shit one way or another, but that's what
Speaker 3: this is, right. This is the open dialogue, and this
Speaker 3: is the place for certain beliefs in ideologies to be
Speaker 3: aired out. And sometimes that might lead to some heated discussions.
Speaker 3: Sometimes everybody can agree and we all move on on
Speaker 3: the same footing.
Speaker 4: It varies topic to topic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. And I just think back to like
Speaker 2: the how many times me and you have gotten into
Speaker 2: it on your and it has been so funny, and
Speaker 2: you'll have cult members reach out like actually concerned, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, are you guys gonna are you guys
Speaker 2: gonna break up? You know what I mean? Is it
Speaker 2: not gonna work? Is the cult just going away? You
Speaker 2: guys seem like very heated. And I always think back
Speaker 2: to that time that we had the conversation about the
Speaker 2: fucking Emerald tablets. Dude, that was the one because it
Speaker 2: was fire versus Ice in that episode. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was you were coming hard at Maurice Doriel and I
Speaker 2: was like, dude, I'm telling you you it's fucking there's
Speaker 2: something to this. And obviously it went back and forth.
Speaker 2: And that was whenever we were in Christie's studio and
Speaker 2: there were people coming in like are you guys all right?
Speaker 2: You know, and and I just because there was during
Speaker 2: a time where you know, obviously, whenever you're you're having
Speaker 2: a conversation with somebody during a heated debate, you want
Speaker 2: to try and prove your point and the other person
Speaker 2: wants to try and prove their point, and you feel
Speaker 2: like you were so right, and I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: so right. And it was just fun dialogue. And there
Speaker 2: was a couple of times where I almost just fucking said,
Speaker 2: let's go out in the parking lot, like it's time,
Speaker 2: it's throwdown time, it's fucking you want to be a man. No,
Speaker 2: it was just like, but I love that kind of shit.
Speaker 2: It's brotherly love, and that's exactly how you would treat
Speaker 2: your boy, your brother, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: so of course there's gonna be conversations like that, and
Speaker 2: to be honest, if you don't get heated from time
Speaker 2: to time, if you don't disagree with somebody from time
Speaker 2: to time, then you don't even have a mind of
Speaker 2: your own, you know, Like you're never going to agree
Speaker 2: with literally every word that somebody says. That's never, dude.
Speaker 2: I don't even agree with most of the shit that
Speaker 2: I say. My feelings and my emotions and my thoughts
Speaker 2: are constantly evolving, you know what I mean. Like sometimes
Speaker 2: I'll just say something because it's a thought, not because
Speaker 2: I agree with it or disagree with it. It's just like, hey,
Speaker 2: what if you know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. We are not an
Speaker 4: echo chamber.
Speaker 3: We never have been, and I think that's also something
Speaker 3: that has done very well for us in the years
Speaker 3: leading up to this point. And just we're all clear,
Speaker 3: this is not this is not a bad transition. Jonathan
Speaker 3: and I are still on wonderful terms. It's not like
Speaker 3: we had some fight behind the scenes and that's what's
Speaker 3: led to this split or anything anything of a negative
Speaker 3: consequence whatsoever.
Speaker 4: This is something that was agreed upon.
Speaker 3: This is something that we talked very heavily about for
Speaker 3: the past few months, and we had to get a
Speaker 3: game plan together on what things would look like moving forward.
Speaker 3: That being said, Jonathan will still be jumping on the
Speaker 3: Tuesday Night Lives. He is still a one hundred percent
Speaker 3: cult member, just like all the rest of us, myself included.
Speaker 3: There ain't no cult leaders in this bitch. We are
Speaker 3: all just humble cult members trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3: So he is not departing ways from the company. He's
Speaker 3: not departing ways from any of that. It's literally just
Speaker 3: there's there's only so many hours in the day, realistically,
Speaker 3: and if he wants Metamistics to grow to the level
Speaker 3: that the cult of Conspiracy has grown to, he has
Speaker 3: to be able to devote the amount of time to
Speaker 3: get it there. And the fact is that there is
Speaker 3: only twenty four hours to try to make sense of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing is that, you know, I
Speaker 2: wish there were more days in a week. I wish
Speaker 2: there were more hours in a day. But the thing
Speaker 2: is is that you know doing one if you really
Speaker 2: think about it, And I don't think that too many
Speaker 2: people even imagine what goes in Like if you've never
Speaker 2: podcasted before, it seems like, you know, it would be easy.
Speaker 2: It seems like it seems like, oh, yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: fun theory. I heard that before. Let me just you know,
Speaker 2: google it and you know, watch a YouTube or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's so much deeper than that, because you want to
Speaker 2: be able to present information and you also have to
Speaker 2: get into the mind of the other person because you're
Speaker 2: trying to imagine the questions that they're going to ask,
Speaker 2: and then you're researching that, and then it's like, well,
Speaker 2: all right, is that you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: it's a whole, like fucking dichotomy of the mind. It
Speaker 2: is trying to work with multiple minds, and.
Speaker 4: One rabbit hole will lead to five other rabbit holes.
Speaker 3: Tangentially, just accidentally, you'll find yourself doing research into some
Speaker 3: other obscure topic just because there is that chrome that
Speaker 3: ties into the main point, and it's it is wild
Speaker 3: and yeah, to your point, anybody that is a consumer
Speaker 3: of podcasts, the majority, the vast majority of podcasters that
Speaker 3: are uber successful at it, they might post once a week, right,
Speaker 3: maybe twice a week. I don't know of many podcasts
Speaker 3: that are posting three times a week. There are a
Speaker 3: bunch I'm not very familiar with that many, right, And
Speaker 3: the reason behind that unless you're somebody who the entire
Speaker 3: pod is just open dialogue, whereas just you and the
Speaker 3: other person just kind of bickering back and forth, or
Speaker 3: for instance, like a sports podcast, So the amount of
Speaker 3: time and effort that goes into that, Yeah, you'll get
Speaker 3: two sports nuts that will sit there and go back
Speaker 3: and forth and debate the careers of this player and
Speaker 3: how he did the last Sunday's game and how that's
Speaker 3: gonna look on next Sunday's game. And it's all very speculative.
Speaker 3: It's all just hypothetical. It's off the dome types of things.
Speaker 3: For the amount of research that we have to do
Speaker 3: into so many obscure topics, how much history we have
Speaker 3: to draw up, how much cultural context we have to
Speaker 3: draw up, how much does it play into today's cultural zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 4: I don't know many other.
Speaker 3: Podcasts that are doing it to the level that we are,
Speaker 3: And I'm not complaining by any means.
Speaker 4: It is a fucking blessing.
Speaker 3: That being said, I don't think many people can appreciate
Speaker 3: the amount of behind the scenes legwork that goes into
Speaker 3: everything that we do. Not to mention allotting time, like
Speaker 3: actually allotting time to sit and shoot this podcast, making
Speaker 3: sure that it's all up and ready gets to the
Speaker 3: editor in time. We just got an editor a year ago.
Speaker 3: That's a relatively new construct. For the vast majority of it,
Speaker 3: Jonathan was doing all of the editing for it. And
Speaker 3: I said that many many times that like the entire
Speaker 3: workload was being carried by Jonathan. His back was hurting
Speaker 3: from carrying the fucking team. I get it, but it's
Speaker 3: there is. So it's we're talking hours and hours, not
Speaker 3: like two hours, no, no, no, for a three hour pod.
Speaker 3: We might be talking about five hours worth of editing
Speaker 3: and digital things that need to get done to it,
Speaker 3: not to mention optimistically ten hours of research that went
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 4: So right off the rip, we're talking close to twenty four.
Speaker 3: Whole hours just to get a episode out, and we're
Speaker 3: doing five of those a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's And that's the thing is that you know,
Speaker 2: whenever you're behind a mike, you got to be on point,
Speaker 2: you got to be ready, you got to be like
Speaker 2: mentally prepared to say certain things and to think certain things,
Speaker 2: and your brain is working the entire time. It's not like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I'm gonna let Jacob talk and go to
Speaker 2: my nothing box for the next ten minutes. I can't
Speaker 2: go to a nothing box. It has to be like
Speaker 2: a fucking well oiled machine. And I've been you know,
Speaker 2: I'm somebody. I've I've tried to really step up my
Speaker 2: own personal game and my own understanding and the deeper
Speaker 2: understanding of what it all means, you know, like it is,
Speaker 2: it is a psychological game. And I think that this
Speaker 2: world is a psychological game. But if you really think
Speaker 2: about it, you know, I and we've all worked jobs
Speaker 2: like to where yeah, you might be working and your
Speaker 2: back might be hurting and maybe you know, like your
Speaker 2: knees will start hurting or your hands get blistered up
Speaker 2: or whatever, but it is so much more stress on
Speaker 2: your mind that it is on your body with this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And I would say, personally, you know,
Speaker 2: having worked those kind of jobs, You've worked those kind
Speaker 2: of jobs. It's it. There is a lot more stress
Speaker 2: on the mind than it will ever be on the body.
Speaker 4: Right, Like, you know, the exhaustion is still real, like
Speaker 4: no doubt.
Speaker 3: Now, granted, yes I'm not sweating my ass off in
Speaker 3: a plant and turn of wrenches and pulling wires and
Speaker 3: all these things like I once did.
Speaker 2: But you can go to a nothing box in those
Speaker 2: kind of jobs in your mind, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 2: and and I feel like that almost helps, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: get through the day a little bit. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like it's it's it's very weird whenever, it's very different jobs.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be real, dude, whenever. Whenever I was younger,
Speaker 2: I remember one thing my dad always told me. My
Speaker 2: dad was always built full of like you know, quotes
Speaker 2: and shit, because he's a he's he turned out pretty successful, right,
Speaker 2: and so you want to listen to those kind of people.
Speaker 2: And and he always said one thing, and he wasn't
Speaker 2: the one that came up with. But one thing that
Speaker 2: always stuck with me was work smarter, not harder. Like
Speaker 2: I always wanted to try and work as smart as
Speaker 2: I possibly could. If I didn't have to be out
Speaker 2: working on a tugboat, if I didn't have to be
Speaker 2: out working in a plant, if I didn't have to
Speaker 2: go fucking you know, serving tables and serving beer to
Speaker 2: customers and shit like that. Like I wanted to try
Speaker 2: and always be known for working intelligently rather than physically.
Speaker 2: And that's really what we've been trying to build over
Speaker 2: here and trying to build intelligent conversation, fun conversations, you know,
Speaker 2: like entertaining conversations and conversations that will just leave you
Speaker 2: scratching your head and completely changing your worldview. Like that
Speaker 2: is what we wanted. That's always what we wanted was
Speaker 2: to literally shatter illusions. That was the idea behind this show.
Speaker 2: That's why it was called the Cult of Conspiracy. And
Speaker 2: if you go, I don't even know if that episode
Speaker 2: is still available, but the very first episode that was
Speaker 2: ever shot for the Cult of Conspiracy, I said, the
Speaker 2: reason why we called it the Cult of Conspiracy was
Speaker 2: because we wanted to look at We wanted to essentially
Speaker 2: like shatter the illusions of the occult, right like that,
Speaker 2: because within the occult, it's just the occult is just
Speaker 2: it's it's hidden, right Like, all of this stuff is hidden,
Speaker 2: and we wanted to bring it to light. That's why
Speaker 2: we want That's why we called it the Cult of Conspiracy.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily that we wanted to be a cult,
Speaker 2: you know, it was the exactly, uh, the opposite, I
Speaker 2: would say, you know, we wanted to shine a light
Speaker 2: on all of the fucking Hillary Clinton's of the world,
Speaker 2: the adrena chromes of the world. And now you hear
Speaker 2: about supposedly in one of the Epstein flight logs or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 4: Did you hear.
Speaker 2: About how fucking supposedly Trump was throat goating Bill Clinton.
Speaker 4: I have not heard this, but okay, it's out.
Speaker 2: There in the zeitgeist right now that supposedly he was
Speaker 2: giving a little sloppy toppy to old Bill. And you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I guess I understand why he didn't want to release that.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know if that's absolutely true, but I've
Speaker 2: seen a lot of people saying it.
Speaker 3: And today I even heard that he has shifted gears
Speaker 3: and now he's all about releasing.
Speaker 4: The files again.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after he and Marjorie Taylor Green had this big fallout,
Speaker 3: now he's calling her Marjorie Trader Green.
Speaker 2: Oh God.
Speaker 3: And now she's saying like, yo, I'm getting death threats
Speaker 3: by the MAGA movement, to which I used to belong
Speaker 3: because I think that they're being sloppy with the release
Speaker 3: of these files. Now Trump all of a sudden's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what, let's put this Democrat hoax to rest,
Speaker 3: just goal release the files, go ahead and just do it.
Speaker 3: And it's like, Okay, we all know that that's not
Speaker 3: exactly going to happen the way that he's saying it
Speaker 3: right now. But I think that maybe he has seen
Speaker 3: the writing on the walls and seen that most of
Speaker 3: his constituents are pissed off at.
Speaker 4: Him right now, and especially for Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 3: Most of us love her, and for him to call
Speaker 3: her Marjorie Trader Green, it's like, oh, oh, you've lost
Speaker 3: your actual goddamn mind, Donnie t.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Thomas Massey. It's the same
Speaker 2: thing with oh shit, what's his name, Ran Paul and
Speaker 2: people like that. It's like, you know, just because somebody
Speaker 2: disagrees with a bill that you're trying to send, maybe
Speaker 2: instead of insulting them, let's try and figure out why
Speaker 2: they disagree with why this bill should be sent and
Speaker 2: pasted in Congress, you know. Like, And that's one thing
Speaker 2: that I've I've come to see that it's it's it's
Speaker 2: almost like a mocking game, and I'm like, dude, it's
Speaker 2: it's fucking childish. And it's not just Trump, although I
Speaker 2: think that it you know, it probably started a little
Speaker 2: bit with him because he was the first one that
Speaker 2: was really slinging shit and calling people names and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. But at first we were like, dude, we
Speaker 2: love that. You know, it was it was such a
Speaker 2: breath of fresh of fresh air. No longer was it
Speaker 2: being covered in the illusion of people getting along in
Speaker 2: Congress or you know, it seemed like k Fabe was
Speaker 2: breaking you know what I'm saying, Like, initially, that's what
Speaker 2: it seemed like, and now I'm just like, oh, k
Speaker 2: Fabe is just back on. It's just rebranded, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. That's the way I'll look at it now.
Speaker 3: Oh, same story, different chapter, right, And we've said that
Speaker 3: a bunch of times two wings of the same bird,
Speaker 3: birds of a ship feather do in fact flock together,
Speaker 3: ripgm leahy.
Speaker 4: But it's the same thing.
Speaker 3: And that is why we are going to continue to
Speaker 3: talk about these types of topics on the Cult of Conspiracy.
Speaker 3: We are not going to shift the program to more political.
Speaker 3: We are not going to be shifting it more Christian.
Speaker 3: We are basically going to continue talking about the conspiracies
Speaker 3: as they play out, throwing in the historical conspiracies of
Speaker 3: course throwing in the current events of the day and
Speaker 3: age as they are playing out. But I mean it's
Speaker 3: really and truly the Cult is not going anywhere. We
Speaker 3: are not rebranding by any means. There might be some
Speaker 3: slight changes here and there that you'll notice, one of
Speaker 3: them being the new official co host of the Cult
Speaker 3: to Conspiracy, the Wonderful, the Beautiful, the Powerful, ravenly Hello.
Speaker 3: And this is also a decision that me and Jonathan
Speaker 3: thought very long and hard about for quite some time.
Speaker 3: When Jonathan first told me that he, you know, his
Speaker 3: heart wasn't in the conspiracy game anymore. It was pulling
Speaker 3: him more towards the esoteric side of things. We bounced
Speaker 3: the idea back and forth about me leading this solo
Speaker 3: and that could do. But be honest, I prefer conversation
Speaker 3: over one guy reading a script. You know, some people
Speaker 3: do exceedingly well at that as far as YouTube is concerned.
Speaker 3: Some people kill at that for podcasting. I like talking.
Speaker 3: I like the back and forth, honestly. So then we
Speaker 3: started thinking of who we could bring in to be
Speaker 3: the new co host and all the business side that
Speaker 3: goes into that and everything else, and a few people
Speaker 3: kind of you know, tickled our fancy a bit, but
Speaker 3: when it really came down to it, the only logical
Speaker 3: conclusion was ravenly thank you.
Speaker 5: Yeah. They they both came to me and talked to
Speaker 5: me about it. We've had a lot of conversations about
Speaker 5: leading up to this this time and me stepping in
Speaker 5: really big shoes and trying to learn how to fill that,
Speaker 5: and I definitely am nervous when it comes to that
Speaker 5: because I am not Jonathan. I will say that I
Speaker 5: believe I'm a healthy balance between Jonathan and Jacob.
Speaker 6: I do not favor one side of verse the other.
Speaker 5: I kind of question a lot of things the same
Speaker 5: as Jonathan does, but I also have similar beliefs in
Speaker 5: some things Towards Jacob. I'm very much in the middle
Speaker 5: with a lot of it. I believe more heavily in
Speaker 5: science than anything else. I also believe in presenting information
Speaker 5: in a non bias manner and then having a conversation
Speaker 5: with biases, because I want people to have the opportunity
Speaker 5: to form whatever opinion they want without any kind of sway,
Speaker 5: and that's kind of where I'm at with those kind
Speaker 5: of things.
Speaker 6: I also believe, I know that people are gonna question
Speaker 6: like what.
Speaker 5: I don't talk normally about my political standpoints, but I
Speaker 5: will say that I am more right leaning, but I
Speaker 5: am heavily in the middle. There is left tenancies that.
Speaker 6: I do view and I do favor.
Speaker 5: I do think that it is important to question everything,
Speaker 5: ask what the motive is behind it, especially when it
Speaker 5: comes to politics. When it comes to religion, which is
Speaker 5: a heavily debated topic on the cult, I was raised
Speaker 5: christian I stepped away from the church when I was sixteen,
Speaker 5: and I don't have any ill will towards Christianity. I
Speaker 5: do still believe in some of it. I do still
Speaker 5: go to church occasionally. I do believe more in practicing
Speaker 5: whatever what you want to believe in. I am kind
Speaker 5: of still finding my way. I've talked about my uncle
Speaker 5: being pagan, he's a Wickan, and I've kind of dabbled,
Speaker 5: not dabbled. I've read into wicked practices paganism. I've taken
Speaker 5: many religious courses. I wouldn't say I'm one specific religion
Speaker 5: as of right now. I tend to not bring up
Speaker 5: religion a lot, so you probably won't hear me bring
Speaker 5: up a lot of it. I will question, though specific Christianity, ideology,
Speaker 5: because I do feel that there is things that need
Speaker 5: to be questioned and I don't agree with everything. So
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be a stickler in the mud
Speaker 5: of like, you know whatever, but I will be questioning things.
Speaker 3: But that also ties into your background as far as
Speaker 3: you're doing research into all these different religions. So for
Speaker 3: anybody who doesn't know Ravenly, give us your background. You
Speaker 3: are a Marine Corps vitch, you've deployed, you have a
Speaker 3: degree in anthropology, you have been on archaeological dig sites.
Speaker 3: You can go ahead and give the people a good
Speaker 3: background into who and what is Raven Lee.
Speaker 6: So all of those things that you just listed.
Speaker 5: My degree is an anthropology with a minor and environmental science.
Speaker 5: I believe heavily in environmental sustainability is one of my passions.
Speaker 5: You'll hear me constantly talk about environmental things on the
Speaker 5: cult because I just believe that we need to talk
Speaker 5: more about it. I also in midwifree school for three
Speaker 5: and a half years. I was studying to become a midwife,
Speaker 5: so doing home urse. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough support
Speaker 5: with my children to be able to continue to pursue that.
Speaker 6: It takes a lot.
Speaker 5: It takes an entire community to become a midwife because
Speaker 5: you have to be on call. So I am a mother.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't particularly bring up my children because
Speaker 5: you know, the world's crazy and the internet is really crazy,
Speaker 5: so I don't particularly.
Speaker 6: Talk about them often. But yes, I am a mom.
Speaker 5: I am also I did a couple of archaeological archaeological
Speaker 5: dig sites. Wow that word, and that was really interesting.
Speaker 5: I learned a lot. I asked a million and one questions.
Speaker 5: I kind of felt bad for the people I was
Speaker 5: with because I asked so many damn questions.
Speaker 6: And that's I was an EMT. I didn't really do.
Speaker 5: I study for an EMT, took my exam, I worked
Speaker 5: in it a little bit, but I was also pregnant
Speaker 5: and it just put me in kind of situations that
Speaker 5: I wasn't comfortable being in, you know, with different people
Speaker 5: being drug adicts and stuff like that, and I didn't
Speaker 5: want to have my baby be at risk, and so
Speaker 5: I didn't pursue that. I've basically been kind of a
Speaker 5: stay at home mom, working different jobs here and there
Speaker 5: for the last decade, and I've learned.
Speaker 6: A lot done.
Speaker 5: I have my hands in a lot of different jars,
Speaker 5: and so that's kind of about me in a nutshell.
Speaker 5: Deployed two times to Afghanistan, lived in Okanawa, Japan.
Speaker 6: I've talked about it before.
Speaker 5: Originally from Oregon, and I've lived here in the South
Speaker 5: for over decades.
Speaker 4: So yes, indeed, Hell yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: Well, I do want to get your opinion on a
Speaker 2: couple of things, just to be able to clarify, because
Speaker 2: there are people out there that if you say that
Speaker 2: you're a person of science, that can mean many different things, right,
Speaker 2: Like you know, during the whole vaccine bullshit, Well you
Speaker 2: just got to trust the science. Is that the science
Speaker 2: that you're referring to.
Speaker 5: No, No, I mean I've spoken, I've spoken quite a
Speaker 5: bit on the cult about how I don't I personally
Speaker 5: don't believe in the vaccines that are produced today. I
Speaker 5: believe that there is a lot of additives that should
Speaker 5: be regulated and checked.
Speaker 6: I think there is.
Speaker 5: That vaccines have a place, and that they actually have
Speaker 5: been beneficial throughout history, but unfortunately, when things started to
Speaker 5: shift in the nineties, they have become more dangerous than
Speaker 5: they are positive. And I wish that we could have
Speaker 5: an open dialogue dialect conversation between vaccined and unvaccinated and
Speaker 5: being able to find a common ground of Hey, let's
Speaker 5: have vaccines, but let's make them safe.
Speaker 6: And that's not as many, yeah, and not as many.
Speaker 5: You know, seventy seven vaccines for children under the age
Speaker 5: of twelve is quite extensive, and I just wish that
Speaker 5: there was a healthier way to have conversations about it.
Speaker 5: I don't believe and I never believed in the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 5: I was adamantly against it from the beginning. I still am.
Speaker 5: I think that there needs to be a lot of
Speaker 5: questions being asked, and people fail to ask questions and
Speaker 5: they more or less just.
Speaker 6: Believe whatever the herd is believing. And that's kind of
Speaker 6: where I'm at with that kind of science.
Speaker 2: Okay, And what about another thing that gets brought up
Speaker 2: in science and you're starting to see Bill Gates kind
Speaker 2: of walk it back too, But what are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on like carbon tax credits, Green New Deal, Paris climb
Speaker 2: and accord that kind of shit. I mean, look, we
Speaker 2: all want I don't think that it's evil or crazy
Speaker 2: to say that we're you know, there's certain things that
Speaker 2: we're doing to the earth that is not good, right, like,
Speaker 2: whether we're robbing it of resources, robbing it of minerals,
Speaker 2: and just completely depleting farmlands by monocropping and fucking chemtrails
Speaker 2: and all this other bullshit, right Like, there are certain
Speaker 2: things that we are I say, we just the human
Speaker 2: race is absolutely doing to fucking absolutely murder and rape
Speaker 2: the earth. And I don't think that that's necessarily right.
Speaker 2: But there are people that will say that they don't
Speaker 2: believe all that shit, and rightfully so, because you know,
Speaker 2: you look at the Paris Climate Accord and the Green
Speaker 2: New Deal specifically, those are absolute money scams. Like they
Speaker 2: are tax scams one hundred percent. I don't care how
Speaker 2: many fucking carbon tax credits that somebody pays for. It's
Speaker 2: not going to help the atmosphere, right Like, these things
Speaker 2: are very well known scams. And so what is your
Speaker 2: opinion on that kind of shit? Not that I was
Speaker 2: trying to, you know, like suggest anything to you, but
Speaker 2: like I'm just curious.
Speaker 3: No, you're goodd She said that she has a background
Speaker 3: in environmental sciences, So I think this is a very
Speaker 3: good way to go for sure.
Speaker 5: So when it comes to green initiatives, I believe firmly
Speaker 5: in conversations of being able to protect more of our resources.
Speaker 5: There is industries like the sand industry, for example, that
Speaker 5: I really want to dive into with people, that is
Speaker 5: absolutely raping parts of our world and that is just
Speaker 5: going to destroy everything and the ecosystem. There is ways
Speaker 5: that we could protect the world and still get what
Speaker 5: we want. I think the problem is is that we
Speaker 5: have It's a hard split. Either you're trying to say
Speaker 5: that everything is causing an issue and we need to
Speaker 5: take everything weigh and everything needs to be taxed, or
Speaker 5: you have the opposite of well, we've been doing it
Speaker 5: for so long, so why don't we keep doing it?
Speaker 5: Because fuck it? And that's I'm I'm in the between
Speaker 5: because for example, of the straw situation, the paper straws now,
Speaker 5: I understand that there is a lot of them that
Speaker 5: we're getting thrown into the ocean and that they were
Speaker 5: going into turtles and they're that was a huge thing.
Speaker 5: But you also are still having every food chain doing
Speaker 5: single serve plastics and they're not getting they're not taking
Speaker 5: that away, they're not taxing it, they're not doing anything.
Speaker 5: They're continuously doing that. Same with the plastic bag situation.
Speaker 5: You can't have a plastic bag, but you can get
Speaker 5: taxed on it, or you can pay for it. And
Speaker 5: but we're still gonna have McDonald's have fifteen packets of
Speaker 5: ketchup and twelve paper pieces of paper of that, and
Speaker 5: oh hey, here's this cardboard, here's this.
Speaker 6: They aren't being held accountable.
Speaker 5: So I think when it comes down to like the
Speaker 5: Paris Accords and those things, they are they look good
Speaker 5: on paper, but practicality, it is a money scam.
Speaker 6: I don't think that they're actually trying to see the environment.
Speaker 5: I think they're for people down here in the South,
Speaker 5: like the plants run the actual business.
Speaker 6: When it comes to protecting the environment.
Speaker 5: There was a huge environmental initiative that just got turned
Speaker 5: down that has been being fought for for five years,
Speaker 5: and it's because there's a new plant being put in
Speaker 5: and the new plant is going to be like a
Speaker 5: billion dollars worth of you know, money being brought in,
Speaker 5: and so instead of protecting the environment, they said, screwed,
Speaker 5: we're going to do this instead. And that right there
Speaker 5: isn't a big issue for me because I think there's
Speaker 5: things as humans we could do to decrease.
Speaker 6: Our carbon footprints every day.
Speaker 5: But if we aren't all doing it, then it's it's
Speaker 5: kind of pissing in the wind.
Speaker 2: So no, I agree, Yeah, it seems like, uh, and
Speaker 2: it's always been this way, you know, and it's more
Speaker 2: obvious now with the Internet and social media and more
Speaker 2: people talking about it. But it's it's always been and
Speaker 2: it will remain the same that it is rules for
Speaker 2: thee and not for me. Right, they want to point
Speaker 2: to the individual for littering and not to the corporations
Speaker 2: that are creating those products for people to litter in
Speaker 2: the first place, right, Like, it's so ridiculous whenever you
Speaker 2: even think about it. Now, I don't know what the
Speaker 2: solution to that is.
Speaker 5: I mean, it may be biodegradable stuff that you can
Speaker 5: actually use and the.
Speaker 6: Like the little popcorns, how do they like put in packaging?
Speaker 4: How do you use?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: How they used to not biodegrade.
Speaker 5: Well, there is a lot of companies now that use
Speaker 5: biodegradable ones, but they cost more and so people don't
Speaker 5: want to do that instead, So it would be it
Speaker 5: would be them actually having to take on the cost
Speaker 5: and finding the initiative to do environmental safe things instead
Speaker 5: of putting it on every single, everyday person. You created
Speaker 5: a society of consumerism and then get mad at the
Speaker 5: consumers for consuming what you're wanting and then wanting to
Speaker 5: tax them because they're quote unquote making more, you know,
Speaker 5: destroying the environment. But you're the ones that are destroying
Speaker 5: the environment actually making the product that you have that
Speaker 5: you're pushing on people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to be like and this is something
Speaker 2: that we've gotten into a lot over the past few years,
Speaker 2: is corporate lobbying. It is a you want to talk
Speaker 2: about like people, people get so up in arms about
Speaker 2: like Tarot and Buigi Borge. As far as demons, I say,
Speaker 2: look at fucking Congress. That's where the demons are. Bro
Speaker 2: like the and not even just the congressmen and the
Speaker 2: congress women or the governors and all that shit. Although
Speaker 2: heavy corruption over there, but the but the devil lies
Speaker 2: within the details. It's in between the lines. I think
Speaker 2: that it is the corporate lobbyist that collect all of
Speaker 2: this money in some form or fashion. They try to
Speaker 2: change rules, and they try to change laws, and they
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And what what was the
Speaker 2: one crazy lobbyist thing that we just looked up recently
Speaker 2: Jacob that we were like, oh my god, I can't
Speaker 2: believe there's lobbying for that.
Speaker 4: Bro the toy company.
Speaker 3: We just have a Furby episode and then come to
Speaker 3: find out not just has Bro, although them in particular,
Speaker 3: the American toy industry has a lobbying group that what
Speaker 3: was it had spent over five hundred thousand dollars over
Speaker 3: the past three years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a there was a couple of years
Speaker 2: where what got up to five hundred grand in one year,
Speaker 2: but it was like averaging two hundred something three hundred
Speaker 2: something thousand dollars a year, which doesn't seem like a
Speaker 2: lot in the big scheme of things. But if it's
Speaker 2: using that money to change laws, you know, like it's
Speaker 2: the same thing with any foreign you know, money that
Speaker 2: is coming in from another country, that kind of lobbying
Speaker 2: never going to be for that. I'm just not I mean,
Speaker 2: I thought that it was America first, not all these
Speaker 2: other countries first, you know. And and the same thing
Speaker 2: with the dual citizenship. I don't mind if somebody is
Speaker 2: a dual citizen, doesn't bother me. Whenever you have those
Speaker 2: people in Congress, when you have those people in the
Speaker 2: White House, whenever you you know, because now where's your loyalty?
Speaker 2: Are you showing loyalty of them? Are you showing loyal
Speaker 2: to the loyalty of the us? To me, that is
Speaker 2: like blaringly obvious that we should not be having a codependency.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't mind some you know, obviously, you
Speaker 2: need allies in the world or else everybody's gonna turn
Speaker 2: against you. You absolutely need that. Understand that one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But whenever you have other foreign money coming in and
Speaker 2: fucking change in our laws, I'm like, yeah, you change
Speaker 2: your own fucking laws, don't worry about ours. You know,
Speaker 2: That's the way I look at it personally. But that
Speaker 2: it just you know, that's something that we've covered obviously
Speaker 2: a lot over the last five years, is just the
Speaker 2: amount of constitutional corruption and we're seeing it, you know,
Speaker 2: every day transpire, and it's it's impossible to get out
Speaker 2: in front of it, really because there's something new coming
Speaker 2: out every single fucking day, and as soon as one
Speaker 2: thing drops, well there's another thing that was bigger than that,
Speaker 2: and we can't even cover that. There's a lot less
Speaker 2: attention going on that whole thing, right and and you know,
Speaker 2: I just lost faith in it. You know what, people
Speaker 2: still go out to the voting out to the voting systems.
Speaker 2: They still will be divisive against their family members and
Speaker 2: their coworkers and friends that they've had for decades because
Speaker 2: we disagree on something political. Meanwhile, these people in politics
Speaker 2: could not give two flying shits about us. They don't
Speaker 2: know our names. Why are we going to sit here
Speaker 2: and separate and bleed and divide and all this other
Speaker 2: bullshit on behalf of somebody that wouldn't piss on us
Speaker 2: if we were on fire. It never made sensategic.
Speaker 6: It's very strategic.
Speaker 5: And that's that's the common thing that people, I think forget,
Speaker 5: is that it's a strategic way to keep people from uniting.
Speaker 5: We outrule them by millions. They're like, what seven hundred
Speaker 5: and seventy three, seventy eight.
Speaker 6: Of them or something like that.
Speaker 5: Not many that actually make up congreous and everything. So
Speaker 5: you're talking not even a city could take over Congress.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's smart to keep people divided. We'll
Speaker 5: keep people continuously at each other instead of looking at
Speaker 5: the real problem and wanting real change and fixing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's where the former lobbyist money comes in
Speaker 3: mostly and we're talking about like the environment and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. It doesn't matter which lobbying group, whether it's
Speaker 3: a foreign lobbyist, environmental, corporate, industrial, military, either way you
Speaker 3: slice it, you got to follow the money trail. And
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, the money is funding
Speaker 3: both sides of every argument. I promise you this the
Speaker 3: same way that we talk about APEC. I promise you
Speaker 3: that Shell and Chevron and Exxon Mobile. I promise you
Speaker 3: that money is being funneled into Republican and Democrat and
Speaker 3: independence pockets across the board. That ties into the environmental
Speaker 3: quote unquote changes and laws and you know, carbon tax
Speaker 3: credits and things that they're able to do to kick
Speaker 3: the can down on the road a few more years.
Speaker 4: It's not about what's best for the earth.
Speaker 3: It's about what's best for the politician that's going to
Speaker 3: pass the law to make it better for business. And
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter what the topic is. That's just
Speaker 3: what it boils down to at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And you know what, really not
Speaker 2: that I needed my mind blown anymore as far as
Speaker 2: the absolute cess pool that is politics. But whenever we
Speaker 2: pulled up and everybody's going to have their own opinions
Speaker 2: on this. You know, we're all entitled to our opinions.
Speaker 2: But whenever you see like and not even just calling
Speaker 2: out APEC, there's a lot of fucking, you know, foreign
Speaker 2: lobbyists within our government one hundred percent. But this is
Speaker 2: just an example of how, you know, how corrupt it
Speaker 2: truly is. Whenever you see that Trump and Biden have
Speaker 2: received more APAC money than anybody else, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: so they really are controlling both sides. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that it's real as controlling our country. I
Speaker 2: think that they actually are to some degree. There's no
Speaker 2: doubt about it. I don't. I don't think that there's
Speaker 2: even a question about it. But just this simple fact
Speaker 2: of you know, it's not about left or right, or
Speaker 2: red or blue, or you know, pro life or ant
Speaker 2: or not anti life. What's the Yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's not necessarily about that. These are
Speaker 2: topics that they bring up just to divide the people,
Speaker 2: to get the fucking light shining off of them and
Speaker 2: more on the people dividing right. But to me, whenever
Speaker 2: I see that there are people that are playing both sides,
Speaker 2: like an absolute fiddle. That way, there can never be
Speaker 2: one runaway absolutely true, absolutely good, you know side of
Speaker 2: the government or or anything like that. Personally, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: coming from the stands. I think that just in general.
Speaker 2: You know, we always talk about like how insurance is evil.
Speaker 2: You had mentioned that several times whenever you were learning
Speaker 2: about insurance and stuff. I think government is equal is evil. Like,
Speaker 2: just in general, I don't know if there's ever been
Speaker 2: a government that you could actually really be for sure
Speaker 2: like proud of, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 2: not to say say the governments haven't done good things.
Speaker 2: Of course, they got to throw you a couple of
Speaker 2: peanuts from time to time just to keep you on board, right,
Speaker 2: But I think overall there's never been a good government.
Speaker 3: The benevolent monarch, if we're gonna look at it, on
Speaker 3: the course of human history, a king or queen who
Speaker 3: truly has a heart for the people, who is going
Speaker 3: out of their way taking money from the country's treasury
Speaker 3: to make their citizens' lives better. There is only a
Speaker 3: few examples of this throughout the entirety of human history,
Speaker 3: but that is pretty much the only snapshots where it
Speaker 3: actually goes exceedingly well, and everybody looks back at it's
Speaker 3: like that was a golden era. Democracy is great, but
Speaker 3: it has a lot of drawbacks. A republic is great,
Speaker 3: but it has a lot of drawbacks. No matter what
Speaker 3: you do, you're gonna have a government that has an
Speaker 3: underbelly to it, and that's the problem. The benevolent monarch
Speaker 3: typically is followed by their nepo baby prince or princess,
Speaker 3: son or daughter, who takes the throne and ruins everything
Speaker 3: that their mom or dad did to make the country great.
Speaker 3: That's kind of how it goes, right But uh yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: when you look at how our government works in particular,
Speaker 3: it's it's not a perfect system. It's really not. I
Speaker 3: would argue that it is the best that we have
Speaker 3: been able to construct thus far. But there is a
Speaker 3: lot of inherent problems and there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that we need to do to try to fix it.
Speaker 3: But when I say we, I do in fact mean
Speaker 3: the royal we. And the problem is they've got us
Speaker 3: so divided that we can't decide on whether there's seventy
Speaker 3: four genders or not. We can't all agree to put
Speaker 3: your fucking shopping cart back where it goes at the Walmart,
Speaker 3: and we can't all agree on what percentage of tax
Speaker 3: the wealthiest or the poorest should be paying. They've got
Speaker 3: us so split and divided on every conceivable, minute detail
Speaker 3: of debate that we are never actually gonna be able
Speaker 3: to get on the same page to make the government
Speaker 3: been to our will. I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's unfortunate because I think that even
Speaker 2: there's a lot of conspiracy you know, podcasts and conspiracy
Speaker 2: theorists out there that really do believe that there is
Speaker 2: one part of the government that are the good guys
Speaker 2: and the other people are the bad guys. And to
Speaker 2: be honest, you know, we were kinda I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: say one hundred percent on board with that. We thought
Speaker 2: that maybe Trump was a disruptor. We thought that there
Speaker 2: was gonna be a draining of the swamp. We thought
Speaker 2: that things were gonna start changing. Doge was looking really good.
Speaker 2: RFK Junior, fucking Tulca Gabbard like Elon, all teaming seemingly
Speaker 2: on the side of good and who knows, We're still
Speaker 2: very early, but it doesn't look good, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, there's there's been a lot of chicanery that
Speaker 2: has been gone on that I've absolutely lost total faith
Speaker 2: in the entire system, whether it is Dan Bongino or
Speaker 2: fucking bug Eyes McGee that is running the FBI. It's
Speaker 2: like these people who we thought were the good guys.
Speaker 2: And that's the problem is that whenever you got you know,
Speaker 2: people and stuff like QAnon, I dude, I fucking knew
Speaker 2: that there was some bullshit that was going on with that,
Speaker 2: and maybe it started out good. But whenever somebody says
Speaker 2: nothing can stop what is coming, or just wait, it's coming,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like we got this, it's
Speaker 2: a matter of time. I'm like, okay, So you're wanting
Speaker 2: us not to act, you want us to be submissive,
Speaker 2: you want us to be passive so that you can
Speaker 2: push your agenda, you can push your ideology. I've just
Speaker 2: gotten to the point within politics that there is not
Speaker 2: going to be a single politician, a single party, a
Speaker 2: single member of Congress, a single governor. I don't think
Speaker 2: that there's an entire party. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 2: if both parties teamed up together, it is never going
Speaker 2: to delete the amount of fucking evil that is within
Speaker 2: our government, and so whenever you're saying that, like not you,
Speaker 2: but just people out there that are believing in that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you're giving your energy to something that
Speaker 2: is it's just being burned. And to be honest, I
Speaker 2: feel like you're almost sacrificing your own energy by believing
Speaker 2: in one side or the other because you think about
Speaker 2: how extreme it has gotten and that that is something
Speaker 2: it used to be. And I don't know, maybe I'm
Speaker 2: just too young to remember, but I seem to remember
Speaker 2: whenever somebody would say, you know, you would ask somebody
Speaker 2: who they voted for, and they'd be like, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable talking about that. You know, it
Speaker 2: was something that like you knew that if you voiced
Speaker 2: your opinion politically that it would cause it it would
Speaker 2: cause a divide.
Speaker 4: Right, And they got called out for them. Was like, see,
Speaker 4: they don't want to talk about it because they're ashamed.
Speaker 4: They know they voted the wrong way. They just don't
Speaker 4: want to talk about it.
Speaker 3: It was like, or they're just trying to keep the
Speaker 3: air respectful and not start shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's me.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't talk about it much. I don't talk politics
Speaker 5: with people. Often I listen to people and I'm like, Okay, sure,
Speaker 5: I have my own very strong, biased opinions about things,
Speaker 5: but I am very open to having dialect and hearing
Speaker 5: other people's sides, and I'm good with people trying to
Speaker 5: change my mind for sure. But that's the conversation doesn't
Speaker 5: happen anymore, either your one way or the other, and
Speaker 5: that's it, period. And there's I think everyone keeps forging though.
Speaker 5: The One World Order is still here, still wanting to
Speaker 5: happen and going anywhere, pushing behind the scenes, like they
Speaker 5: constantly are still bringing up on the news.
Speaker 6: I was just watching the news the other day and
Speaker 6: they dropped.
Speaker 5: That little line in one World Order, and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 5: they're still around, you know, kicking that can, just quietly
Speaker 5: making moves while people are so divided, and like, hey
Speaker 5: look over there, look over here, Hey here's that. And
Speaker 5: eventually we're gonna get to the point where they're going
Speaker 5: to push in the narrative of one World Order, one currency.
Speaker 5: They haven't stopped, like the penny's gone now, they're they're
Speaker 5: moving forward with their plan.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's it's gotten so crazy, dude, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real with you. So just the other night,
Speaker 2: I uh, I fucking I trip balls, right, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I was for Aco and you know, typically
Speaker 2: my favorite way to go about having a psychedelic experience,
Speaker 2: and usually they're they're like really awesome, but every so
Speaker 2: often you'll get a fucking terrifying one, which is what
Speaker 2: I experienced. And dude, it was the like it put
Speaker 2: the fucking void trip to shame, bro. Like, it was
Speaker 2: the scariest thing I've ever experienced in my life.
Speaker 3: Now I need some some follow up questions here, brother,
Speaker 3: how much did you take? Because just one Nico, I've
Speaker 3: never heard of one negative experience from anybody who's fucked
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as they say, there's no such
Speaker 2: thing as a negative experience. There's always positives that can
Speaker 2: be on the outcome of that, for sure. But you know,
Speaker 2: as far as a nightmare, it was the nightmare of
Speaker 2: all nightmares, bro, Like it was and it was my
Speaker 2: own fear that was manifesting within me. Like it was.
Speaker 4: Literally worse than the DMT experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by far, by far. Yeah. And and the thing
Speaker 2: with you know, regular DMT is that it only lasts
Speaker 2: like five minutes, you know, not.
Speaker 4: Even four Aco who grabs you for a bit?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, you're You're in there for about three and
Speaker 2: a half four hours, you know, and.
Speaker 3: You okay, I remember how fucked up you were after
Speaker 3: the pure. Now you're saying four Acho is even worse
Speaker 3: than that. Like, brother, you you doing okay?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm reeling but uh but but no, I
Speaker 2: mean I'm not even trying to get too much into
Speaker 2: the details. I'm not trying to be an advocate for
Speaker 2: psychedelics or anything like that. But but yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a complete and utter shattering of uh my reality.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I honestly, you know, legit, I thought I
Speaker 2: was about to die, like on some real ship. Like
Speaker 2: I thought it was fucking dying. Oh dude, Sean had
Speaker 2: to fucking throw me in the shower like it was. No, No,
Speaker 2: it wasn't.
Speaker 4: I promise it's from a good source.
Speaker 2: But no, it wasn't that. It was. It was coupled
Speaker 2: with the fact that, you know, I was tired because
Speaker 2: I was driving, and I was dehydrated because I had
Speaker 2: just gotten I didn't know this, but did you know
Speaker 2: that getting a tattoo for multiple hours can dehydrate your
Speaker 2: entire body. Yes, yeah, so I was. It was that
Speaker 2: mixed with dehydration, and it was it was a lot
Speaker 2: of factors. I don't I'm not even putting it on
Speaker 2: the actual four ego Like it was it was literally
Speaker 2: my own emotions that were creating that. It was like
Speaker 2: if you've ever seen, well you don't watch Black Mirror,
Speaker 2: but there's this episode of Black Mirror where this dude
Speaker 2: he goes and he it's the video game one where
Speaker 2: he essentially he signs up to be like a like
Speaker 2: a fucking uh what is it called a fucking not
Speaker 2: a gurabil, a guinea pig. Yeah, he was signed up
Speaker 2: to be a guinea pig for this new game that
Speaker 2: was coming out, and it was going to it was
Speaker 2: a horror game, but this horror game was specific to you,
Speaker 2: and so whenever you go he went into this haunted
Speaker 2: house or whatever, and literally his own fears were manifesting
Speaker 2: that was causing the the fucking horror experience. But it
Speaker 2: was like it was real to him, right, sounded.
Speaker 6: Like hell, my god, if I had that happened, my
Speaker 6: heart would give out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, And so it was that on crack like
Speaker 2: it was that like it was my worst fears we
Speaker 2: were happening, and yeah it was. It was fucking crazy. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get too too far in the
Speaker 2: weeds with that, but my point is is that there
Speaker 2: was a couple of things that I was trying to
Speaker 2: do to really pull myself back out of it, right,
Speaker 2: and just a couple of meditative techniques. And this is
Speaker 2: just something that I wanted to share because one thing
Speaker 2: that I realized in there is just how precious and
Speaker 2: valuable life and your relationships and your your memories are,
Speaker 2: you know, like, And one thing that I kept on thinking,
Speaker 2: like as much fear as I was taking on it
Speaker 2: was it was fucking giga anxiety. Bro, Like, forget gigachad.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a funny meme, but like it was
Speaker 2: giga anxiety. Like it was the most amount of anxiety.
Speaker 2: I think that had I not been practiced in meditation
Speaker 2: and understand how to talk to my own mind, I like,
Speaker 2: I it wouldn't have been that crazy to say that
Speaker 2: there was a heart attack, you know what, Like it
Speaker 2: was that crazy level and you take before oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And this is why I'm I'm not trying to advocate
Speaker 2: for him you know what I like, because it can
Speaker 2: be profoundly awesome or profoundly horrible, Like you never know
Speaker 2: what you're going to get, right, and especially like if
Speaker 2: your life is in limbo and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: things that you know, could go this way, could go
Speaker 2: that way. Like here I am like the the cult
Speaker 2: is about to you know, go on and and evolve
Speaker 2: in its own way, and I'm kind of taking my
Speaker 2: own direction with meta and everything, and and you know,
Speaker 2: like you can never be one hundred percent certain about anything,
Speaker 2: like especially whenever it's making decisions like that, you know,
Speaker 2: like as far as like because it's like life is
Speaker 2: an absolute gamble, Like every decision you make is an
Speaker 2: absolute gamble. So anyway, what I was what I was
Speaker 2: wanting to get to is that every time that I
Speaker 2: just held like the vibration or the frequency or just
Speaker 2: the thought of love, my anxiety went away. And so
Speaker 2: that's my point is is that I just want to
Speaker 2: be as as as minimally divisive and and un you know,
Speaker 2: I want to have more empathy towards everybody, you know,
Speaker 2: I want to have more more thought given to everybody
Speaker 2: else and get out of not to say that I'm
Speaker 2: an overly selfish person. But I think that everybody probably
Speaker 2: has some sort of selfish characteristics, and some more than
Speaker 2: other others obviously, But it made me realize just how
Speaker 2: much value I need to put on other people, Like
Speaker 2: how much more I need to put on other people?
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I mean fuck I took the uh,
Speaker 2: I took the fucking long scenic route to get to
Speaker 2: that position. But my part, but my point is is
Speaker 2: that I just want to fucking be able to get along,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, we are so much
Speaker 2: more similar than we are you know, different, And and
Speaker 2: I think that if we were able to find some
Speaker 2: bounds like that, like and and this is what it
Speaker 2: all goes back to. I think that we can all
Speaker 2: agree that like I don't know, uh, there there are
Speaker 2: certain things that we can agree all agree on, like
Speaker 2: government evil, you know, like taxation, theft, sacrifice evil, like
Speaker 2: these are things that we can all kind of agree on.
Speaker 2: And I think that in order to bring people back
Speaker 2: together and to quit the divisive stuff is looking at
Speaker 2: what we have in common as opposed to what we
Speaker 2: disagree about.
Speaker 3: And because tons of things like you're saying, like people
Speaker 3: regardless of what background you're from, what religion you hold,
Speaker 3: what country you were born into. We all want certain things, right.
Speaker 3: We want to be able to go to sleep at
Speaker 3: night and not worry about us having somebody break in
Speaker 3: our house and kill us or burn our house down.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: We all want our children to get a good education.
Speaker 3: We all want decent medical care available to us. We
Speaker 3: all want some sort of a retirement plan. We want
Speaker 3: to be able to retire at some point in time.
Speaker 3: We all want clean drinking water, and we don't think
Speaker 3: that that's a crime to want such things. We all
Speaker 3: want food that's not poisoning us. Like, there's a few
Speaker 3: big things that, regardless of whatever else you have going on,
Speaker 3: we all want that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, There's there's no like to us. There's no benefit
Speaker 2: to kemtrails, there's no benefit to fluoride in our water.
Speaker 2: There's no benefit to taking out all the minerals and
Speaker 2: vitamins and nutrients out of all the food and pumping
Speaker 2: them full of fucking artificial bullshit. Yeah. And and that's
Speaker 2: the thing is that you know, and even there are
Speaker 2: some like like B vitamins. Dude, you know that some
Speaker 2: be vitamins are and and I can't remember which energy
Speaker 2: drink we talked about this, But there is a I
Speaker 2: think it's like a B six or maybe it's a
Speaker 2: B twelve, but it's essentially it is the foam on
Speaker 2: top of sewage that they filter oute and turn it
Speaker 2: into v B vitamins. And it's like.
Speaker 3: Red Bull, you know, Celsius and there was like two
Speaker 3: other ones that are using that source of their B vitamins.
Speaker 4: And when you look at it, it's they're taking the ponds.
Speaker 3: Come off of the aerator ponds off of literal human
Speaker 3: shit facilities. Then they're processing that to get the B vitamins.
Speaker 4: Like that's clear not bang and rain though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's that kind of shit that is like
Speaker 2: it's a slap in the face to humanity, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like it's literally somebody spitting in
Speaker 2: your face and telling you that it's fucking raining.
Speaker 5: Like you can actually go to the Food and Food
Speaker 5: Administration website and there's a PDF file you can print out.
Speaker 6: It's like, I don't know, forty five pages long. I
Speaker 6: actually have.
Speaker 5: It, and it tells you in detail what the name
Speaker 5: of this is and what it actually is. The ingredient
Speaker 5: wise and they're also changing specific names so that way
Speaker 5: they can hide it even more. But there's a ton
Speaker 5: of information about like dung, beetle poop, random bugs, human waste.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a I want to talk about silet
Speaker 5: green coming up, because there's actually a big movement using
Speaker 5: human bodies as composition, like they're going to decompose them
Speaker 5: and use them as fertilizer. They're using human poop as fertilizer.
Speaker 5: They're doing all sorts of stuff, and Campbellism is making
Speaker 5: a come back again, and it's just oh yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: it hasn't left since COVID.
Speaker 6: They've brought it up.
Speaker 5: I think it was like a couple hundred times. The
Speaker 5: New York Times did a couple articles on it and
Speaker 5: stuff like that. So there is they consistently are trying
Speaker 5: to shove shit in our food, and it's not that
Speaker 5: difficult to make normal food. I do not like actual shit, Like,
Speaker 5: I do not understand why this is such a weird conversation.
Speaker 5: And then the fact that the USDA was talking about
Speaker 5: wanting everyone to register a garden, even if it's like
Speaker 5: a tiny little garden in your backyard, you need to
Speaker 5: register it.
Speaker 4: And that's the other thing too.
Speaker 3: They're going through the process of changing the definition of
Speaker 3: certain words, and not just to the realm of what
Speaker 3: is a Nazi right that they've been trying to reclassify
Speaker 3: that to basically anybody who's not a liberal.
Speaker 2: How about quite some time, how about natural flavors.
Speaker 5: Flavors will get you, because I think it's like almost
Speaker 5: two hundred ingredients that are listed as natural because they
Speaker 5: come from the earth of some type, but they're actually
Speaker 5: really terrible for you, a lot of them, but it's
Speaker 5: classified as natural.
Speaker 3: Same with organic. We talked about that not too terribly
Speaker 3: long ago. Something's listed as organic. When you look at
Speaker 3: the guidelines for what falls within the realm of quote
Speaker 3: unquote acceptable behavior to be labeled organic, more often than not,
Speaker 3: it's not any better than the shit that's not organic,
Speaker 3: and in some cases actually worse, not all of them,
Speaker 3: some cases, but yes, to where the Food and Drug
Speaker 3: Administration they're reclassifying what certain things are called now, they're
Speaker 3: changing the definition of certain words to where it falls
Speaker 3: more within the parameters of something they can label. In
Speaker 3: this case, I would say mislabel to make people feel
Speaker 3: safer about buying literal poison in insanity yeah, and they.
Speaker 6: Have a black label too.
Speaker 5: What black label where they have like hidden ingredients that
Speaker 5: they that in America specifically, they don't have to list
Speaker 5: compared to other countries where they actually have to list
Speaker 5: all the ingredients. There's black labeled ingredients that they don't
Speaker 5: have to list here that are banned in most countries.
Speaker 2: See what I'm saying, Raven, this is why the cult
Speaker 2: needs you. And this is honest, like legit. I'm sure
Speaker 2: that people understand my stance on a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I'm an average Joe. I didn't go I went to
Speaker 2: college for I think three weeks, and uh hated it
Speaker 2: because and the only reason I even went to college
Speaker 2: was because I was trying to walk onto their football team.
Speaker 2: Once I found out that it was too late to
Speaker 2: walk on the football team, I lost interest in college,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I was just like, well,
Speaker 2: that defeats the purpose of me even being here, and
Speaker 2: so I'm not of you know, I try and educate
Speaker 2: myself as much as I possibly can. But you whenever
Speaker 2: you speak, dude, like there's credence to it and you
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. You sound intelligent. I know
Speaker 2: that you can do very deep levels of research, and
Speaker 2: you sound smart, you look smart, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you make me and Jacob look fucking dumb like
Speaker 2: and borderline retarded. And you know, like I mean, Jacob's
Speaker 2: over there eating crayon. Well you're a marine too, so
Speaker 2: you eat creons. But like we're all we have our
Speaker 2: special aspects. And I think that you coming onto the
Speaker 2: show taking reins of the Cult of Conspiracy along with
Speaker 2: Jacob over there, it's just going to bring it up
Speaker 2: to higher level, intelligent kind of conversations to where we're
Speaker 2: not talking about dumb shit anymore. Not that we talked
Speaker 2: about a whole lot of dumb shit, but we talked
Speaker 2: a lot about dumb shit that doesn't really matter, you
Speaker 2: know that. And and I think that this is just
Speaker 2: going to it's going to be a shot of a drenochrome, bro. Like,
Speaker 2: I think that that's what you are. You are a
Speaker 2: shot of a drenochrome, and it's your own adrenochrome. You're
Speaker 2: getting high on your own supply over there, and that's
Speaker 2: what this show needs.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 5: I'm definitely I am very nervous because I definitely think
Speaker 5: that you offer so much to the cult, and I
Speaker 5: hope that I can at least offer, even in a fraction,
Speaker 5: what you've you've offered. I definitely am going to try
Speaker 5: my best to look at it from every aspect, and
Speaker 5: that's kind of what I do. Anyways, when I'm researching.
Speaker 5: It takes me a lot longer to do research for
Speaker 5: episodes because I get lost in the details and I
Speaker 5: want to know everything about everything, and I just keep
Speaker 5: reading and reading and reading, and so I try to
Speaker 5: figure out I'm trying to learn how to like condense
Speaker 5: it and not bore people with all the inter you know,
Speaker 5: the interesting information to me, but I know it can
Speaker 5: be a bit much for other people.
Speaker 3: I mean, but sometimes that is the background information that's
Speaker 3: needed to give proper context in scope to the conversation.
Speaker 3: So and it's the same thing with me and Jonathan.
Speaker 3: We were not particularly good at this when we started.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm I'm big enough to admit that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: when we first started this, we really were clueless. There
Speaker 3: was a lot of trial and error to learn how
Speaker 3: to podcast.
Speaker 2: Did we struggle to get to an hour in the beginning,
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I remember thinking, like, bro, how are we going to
Speaker 4: do this? An hour? And a half, like we're gonna
Speaker 4: just run out of shit to talk about after forty
Speaker 4: five minutes. Cut to now where it's like, I we
Speaker 4: might be able to cut this down to two hours.
Speaker 3: I don't know, we'll see what we can do. It's yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's like a muscle. The more
Speaker 3: you work it, the better you get at it.
Speaker 4: And it's the same with anything in life really.
Speaker 3: So, and it's the same with like the research that
Speaker 3: you're doing, the level of research that I've seen you
Speaker 3: do for random things just in your life because you're
Speaker 3: interested in this type of conversation. Bringing that to the microphone,
Speaker 3: I think is going to play out so well, so
Speaker 3: fucking well.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, if I can even help
Speaker 5: people learn how to research, that's a big thing that
Speaker 5: I actually took a course on learning how to research
Speaker 5: because I just wanted to because I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: nobody's teaching us how to research. They just tell you
Speaker 5: to go in these search engines, put in random ass
Speaker 5: shit and you'll figure it out.
Speaker 6: That is not the case.
Speaker 5: There is actually ways to research and to find real
Speaker 5: peer reviewed information. But the problem is is you have
Speaker 5: to learn how to follow back who is actually doing
Speaker 5: it and who funded it. Yeah, and that's where all
Speaker 5: the hours, like you guys were talking about, comes into play,
Speaker 5: because the money trail is very well hidden and you
Speaker 5: have to actually be able to discern who is actually
Speaker 5: being paid and where it comes from.
Speaker 6: Then you have to go those websites read through it.
Speaker 5: The only reason why I found the information out about
Speaker 5: the Prince of Vaccines and that he was funded by
Speaker 5: Bill Gates was because I went through every single picture
Speaker 5: for the last forty years and I found his pictures
Speaker 5: in there of him with Bill Gates multiple times throughout
Speaker 5: the decades.
Speaker 4: And it's like you said, just because something is peer
Speaker 4: reviewed does not necessarily mean that it's credible.
Speaker 6: Heavy biases.
Speaker 5: You have to read everything with an undertone that whoever's
Speaker 5: paying that is going to have a bias.
Speaker 6: Depending you can read.
Speaker 5: Once you start reading research and you understand the tone
Speaker 5: in what you're reading it, you can you can sift
Speaker 5: through the biases and find the information that you need.
Speaker 6: But it takes a lot.
Speaker 5: And people don't understand that you have unconscious biases and
Speaker 5: conscious biases, and so when you speak with unconscious biases,
Speaker 5: you're still shedding your personal opinions, even though you're not
Speaker 5: really realizing it onto other people. So you're presenting like
Speaker 5: people wear red lipstick, for example, to attract males. If
Speaker 5: I was to say that in a different tone, it
Speaker 5: would be like, oh, well, I guess I need to
Speaker 5: wear red lipstick to attract a mail or I'm not
Speaker 5: pretty enough without red lipstick, or if you just say
Speaker 5: it like, hey, scientifically, this has been proven throughout the
Speaker 5: last few decades. This is why they had such an
Speaker 5: industry back in the day for different sheades.
Speaker 6: Red is to attract different types of males.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean we've talked about that with the
Speaker 3: sugar industry too. So if everybody remembers back in the
Speaker 3: late eighties early nineties, everything was like, oh, reduce trans
Speaker 3: fats because there was so many quote unquote scientists that
Speaker 3: went on saying that high fat leads to heart conditions,
Speaker 3: even though all actual scientific research showed that sugar was
Speaker 3: the likely culprit for the amount of obesity in America
Speaker 3: and all these heart diseases that were coming out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: But they realized that, and by day, I mean big
Speaker 3: Sugar realized that they couldn't do that because that would
Speaker 3: kill their profit margins. So they found five scientists and
Speaker 3: paid them each fifty thousand dollars to come together all
Speaker 3: have their names on this one paper that they could
Speaker 3: take to DC and pass some new legislation on to
Speaker 3: try to make trans fats an evil in this world.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that trans fats are good. I'm
Speaker 3: saying everything in moderation. But my point is though all
Speaker 3: of these foods that had less fats were even higher
Speaker 3: elevated levels of sugar, and nobody paid the attention because
Speaker 3: it was scientists.
Speaker 4: These are Yale and Harvard scientists. This is a peer
Speaker 4: reviewed document.
Speaker 3: It's like no, no, no, just because something's peer reviewed, although
Speaker 3: that is something to go on, Like Ravenly is saying,
Speaker 3: you have to find the source of the money, who
Speaker 3: is funding that research, Who was actually the one to
Speaker 3: persuade this group of scientists to write that paper. They're
Speaker 3: not just writing papers for the fuck of it. It's
Speaker 3: not in their job description that every day some scientists
Speaker 3: is working on some new essay, just because that's not
Speaker 3: how this goes.
Speaker 2: No, I agree. And that was like the margarine era
Speaker 2: when people were like thinking that margarine was more healthy
Speaker 2: and then turns out people were having fucking more heart
Speaker 2: attacks with that shit than ever.
Speaker 4: It is horrible, dude.
Speaker 3: Everybody was like trying to steer clear from butter, like
Speaker 3: it's the plague. It's like, no, butter is the shit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, real butter.
Speaker 4: Butter.
Speaker 6: Made from a cow that hasn't been filtrated.
Speaker 2: But right, real real butter, not that Country Crock or
Speaker 2: Blue Bonnet bullshit like and if you look at the.
Speaker 5: Days than anything, honestly, the classic that they put in
Speaker 5: butter is insane.
Speaker 2: Ye oh yeah, dude, man, My mom, my mom taught
Speaker 2: actually is the one that taught me about that. She
Speaker 2: was like, whenever you go to the grocery store and
Speaker 2: you're going to get butter, look at the containers. Do
Speaker 2: they actually say butter on there? Because if they don't
Speaker 2: actually say butter on their chances are it's not butter.
Speaker 2: Like That's why whenever you look at blue Bonnet or
Speaker 2: you look at Country Crock or any of these other
Speaker 2: bullshit butters, it's like it is vegetable oil. That's you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, And that's really it. And the
Speaker 2: same thing goes for olive oil if you ever look
Speaker 2: at it, and I just recently learned this, uh this
Speaker 2: way to be able to test if you have pure
Speaker 2: olive oil or if it was just pump full of
Speaker 2: you know, uh, fillers or whatever. If you take your
Speaker 2: olive oil and you put it in your fridge and
Speaker 2: it gets cloudy, then you know that it's real olive oil.
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't get cloudy, then you know that
Speaker 2: it's filled with like vegetable oil and it's cut with
Speaker 2: all this other you know, seed oils and shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that also to bring in another conspiratorial thing.
Speaker 4: I don't know if everybody knows this or not. If so,
Speaker 4: I'll be the one to tell you.
Speaker 3: Every bit of olive oil in this country is tied
Speaker 3: to the mafia.
Speaker 4: Not a joke, not a game. Every olive oil company that.
Speaker 3: Is sourced in Italy is owned by some sort of
Speaker 3: Italian mafia family.
Speaker 4: It has been since the beginning.
Speaker 6: I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Yep, you're funding basically Italian terrorist groups by buying olive oil.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I love, I
Speaker 3: love olive oil, I do. I I primarily cook these
Speaker 3: days with like herbal infused olive oils or ghee.
Speaker 4: That's my two go tos.
Speaker 6: I'm a baking grease kind of gal.
Speaker 5: I have jars of baking gree I just like consistently
Speaker 5: pour back into it and gye.
Speaker 4: I make my own beef tallow.
Speaker 6: I just I don't have a beef talo.
Speaker 4: But making your own, though.
Speaker 6: I've never done making my own.
Speaker 5: Actually I've never done it, but I do know people
Speaker 5: to buy from down here in the South that they
Speaker 5: like ship to Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, here in some parts
Speaker 5: of Texas.
Speaker 3: So I watched this woman do it on YouTube and
Speaker 3: it was like, it's a time consuming process, granted, but
Speaker 3: you just go to your you know, there's a certain
Speaker 3: type of butcher you can go to and just get
Speaker 3: twenty pounds of fat and just cook it down and
Speaker 3: scrape it and cook it down and scrape it and
Speaker 3: just you repeat the process until it's completely pure tallow
Speaker 3: and you're just.
Speaker 4: In the money. And I'm like, why I could do that?
Speaker 4: I could do that over the course of a weekend.
Speaker 6: Fuck yeah, so what time?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 6: With what time I'll find some one day?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: And I actually I recently just had this conversation with
Speaker 2: the podcast called Journey to Truth on metamistics and my god,
Speaker 2: so fucking brilliant some like. And that's what I love about,
Speaker 2: you know, reaching out to and having other conversations with
Speaker 2: people that you otherwise wouldn't is because a lot of
Speaker 2: people have like information that is obvious and that they've
Speaker 2: known for a long time that other people just have
Speaker 2: never heard of.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And obviously, like with the with the whole, like, there
Speaker 2: are certain religions that don't eat pork, right, and there's
Speaker 2: usually good reason behind that, right, But one thing that
Speaker 2: I recently found out is that, dude, the idea behind
Speaker 2: not eating pork, there is so much more to that
Speaker 2: than I ever thought. Like, the amount of fucking parasites
Speaker 2: that are in pork is unfathomable, like the and and
Speaker 2: you know, obviously we had Lindsay Sharman on from Rogueways
Speaker 2: shout out to Rogue Soul now, but you know when
Speaker 2: when she was saying that basically parasites and cancer are
Speaker 2: the same thing, you know, exactly the same thing that
Speaker 2: you should be doing, like that you should be doing
Speaker 2: like parasite cleanses and and basically like a tumor itself
Speaker 2: isn't even necessarily bad, it's just your body's like reacting
Speaker 2: in almost like putting a barrier around whatever is going
Speaker 2: on like inside of you. Right, And and one thing
Speaker 2: that he was saying about the pork is is that, dude,
Speaker 2: I don't know if most people know this. Did you
Speaker 2: know that a cow is like we share like ninety
Speaker 2: nine percent of the same DNA with a pig?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did they say that a pig flesh or
Speaker 3: pig flesh in general is the most closely related to
Speaker 3: human flesh.
Speaker 4: Dude, it's like a pig.
Speaker 3: Heart, like in heart valve replacements and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: they'll use pig valves.
Speaker 2: That's well. My point about that is is that wouldn't
Speaker 2: you say then that if we are ninety nine percent
Speaker 2: compatible with the DNA of a pig, that's pretty much
Speaker 2: fucking cannibalism.
Speaker 6: Then at that point going to say that, right.
Speaker 4: So keep in mind we are ninety nine compatible with
Speaker 4: the chimpanzees.
Speaker 2: I don't plan on eating them either, Oh, I would
Speaker 2: love to.
Speaker 6: Most people, don't less most people that.
Speaker 3: In India, that's is a thing.
Speaker 4: I want to try that one.
Speaker 2: In India. Curry is a thing. It's fucking disgusting.
Speaker 4: But India also be shitting all over the street. Have
Speaker 4: you played that game?
Speaker 3: Have you gone to like street view in India anywhere
Speaker 3: and seene if you can find anywhere in the country
Speaker 3: where there's not human shit.
Speaker 4: On the ground.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you eat a bunch of curry and try
Speaker 2: not to shit your pants, like like, that's just probably
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 5: I actually like curry. I like different types of curry.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. There's some Indian food that I
Speaker 5: really fucked with, so.
Speaker 3: I prefer Ti curry over Indian curry to me personally.
Speaker 3: But the flavor profile is just so.
Speaker 6: It is very vastly different, the different types of curry.
Speaker 6: I'll say that.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I get it. It's just different
Speaker 2: cultural foods and stuff like that. And I'm fucking not
Speaker 2: used to eating that level of stuff. So to me,
Speaker 2: it is like dropping an atom baum into my gut,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the street vendor, he's got the best food in
Speaker 4: New Delhi.
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, he's serving everybody with his bare hands
Speaker 3: and I ain't seen him new sanitizer one time.
Speaker 4: Y'all act like this is acceptable behavior.
Speaker 6: I've seen some of the videos and I was.
Speaker 4: Like hm hmm, right, Like I'm not even a German.
Speaker 5: I'm not even a German fo but I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 5: I did make a foot bread though in Afghanistan in
Speaker 5: the holes, that's yeah, they call it footbread, like, well
Speaker 5: we did, I guess your feet No, I needed.
Speaker 6: It with my hands.
Speaker 5: But then they have like a hole in the ground
Speaker 5: that like heats up and you slap it on the
Speaker 5: walls and stuff. Oh my god, I will say that
Speaker 5: I miss Afghan food a lot.
Speaker 6: I've been thinking a lot about it lately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be the only person I've ever heard
Speaker 3: say they missed Afghan food.
Speaker 5: I guarantee you not. I know plenty of people that
Speaker 5: love Afghan food. You know how much we would they
Speaker 5: would you give money? So the little kids, they were
Speaker 5: the fastest kids I've ever seen in my life. I
Speaker 5: feel like they would actually put Ethiopian kids to shame
Speaker 5: at this point because they're so quick. But they would
Speaker 5: run up to you, you give them money, and they
Speaker 5: would like disappear for a few hours because they have
Speaker 5: to run all the way back home wherever the hell
Speaker 5: that is, and they would show back up with like footbread,
Speaker 5: which is what we call it, but it's like non bread,
Speaker 5: and they would have like kebabs in there that have
Speaker 5: all sorts of stuff. Oh my god, it's so good.
Speaker 5: I never got sick one time. I'm off of it.
Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you, is it that the food
Speaker 3: was that good or because you were eating MRIs for
Speaker 3: so much that man that kebab was like, I mean.
Speaker 6: There's something to be said about that. There is something
Speaker 6: to be said.
Speaker 5: I honestly thought it was really good though, even if
Speaker 5: I was like just coming off the fob and then
Speaker 5: getting some of that, Like, I personally really liked it.
Speaker 5: I thought they had really good seizing. I thought the
Speaker 5: food was fantastic. It was it was interesting learning the
Speaker 5: cultures and stuff like that with if they would actually,
Speaker 5: you know, the men actually showed me how to do
Speaker 5: it because a lot of the women weren't allowed to
Speaker 5: be around us.
Speaker 6: I was allowed to be around females.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, Well and that leads me to
Speaker 2: my next question. Raven Lee And I've I've asked Jacob
Speaker 2: this question a bunch of times before. But you know,
Speaker 2: you are somebody who is it that you are a
Speaker 2: marine or that you were a marine? I don't think
Speaker 2: that there's such a thing as an ex marine right, correct?
Speaker 6: I am a marine, Yes.
Speaker 2: You are a marine, and knowing what you know now
Speaker 2: about the culture of war in general, politics, the political climate,
Speaker 2: certain people you know, starting wars that don't necessarily need
Speaker 2: to be started because other countries need freedom, and by
Speaker 2: what we mean as freedom is we're gonna take your shit.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts now, Like, if you knowing what
Speaker 2: you know now, would you decide to re enlist if
Speaker 2: you could go back and do it all over again.
Speaker 5: That's a challenging question, that is a very hard question.
Speaker 5: I think that a lot of people have died for
Speaker 5: senseless purposes, for gains of others. I think that so
Speaker 5: many of us went to war for under the guise
Speaker 5: of something that.
Speaker 6: Wasn't actually true. I believe that there is.
Speaker 5: A place in society as a whole for quote unquote war.
Speaker 5: Like if there is a genocide happening, then I believe
Speaker 5: that that should be stopped one hundred percent. I don't
Speaker 5: believe in going to war for minerals at this time.
Speaker 5: We could, but we are not in a place like
Speaker 5: in history that you're fighting over find a resource, like
Speaker 5: we can find trade agreements, We can find other ways
Speaker 5: to be proactive in doing that.
Speaker 6: I don't believe bloodshed is going to be necessary.
Speaker 5: I feel, I feel very strongly that so many people
Speaker 5: have died in the name of other people's profits that
Speaker 5: I wish there was a way that we could bring
Speaker 5: everybody back that you know, just went to war. I
Speaker 5: think that everybody had a good spirit in like, wanting
Speaker 5: to protect our country, wanting to protect our citizens, and
Speaker 5: we did what we thought all was necessary to do
Speaker 5: that and each other. I don't know if I would
Speaker 5: re enlist to go back. I probably would, honestly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, war. There's a lot of aspects to it.
Speaker 5: I know that a lot of other Marines have dealt
Speaker 5: with way more intense situations than I have, and they
Speaker 5: might have different viewpoints the mentality that you have. At
Speaker 5: least for myself, I can't speak for other people. It
Speaker 5: was very simple you. It's a very simple driven mission,
Speaker 5: and so it seemed like it was simpler times back
Speaker 5: then for me at least, because like, I'm not worrying
Speaker 5: about money, I'm not worrying about what the politics are
Speaker 5: happening back home. I'm worrying about making sure that my
Speaker 5: comm is up. I'm making sure that the people around
Speaker 5: me are safe. I'm making sure that we're you know,
Speaker 5: we're completing the mission that we're on. And it was
Speaker 5: very singular focused versu now it's like, is my car
Speaker 5: payment done? Where am I going to get money for this?
Speaker 5: I need to pay groceries, I need to do all
Speaker 5: these things. And it was very It's very more chaotic
Speaker 5: and more intense for me personally being civilian than it
Speaker 5: was being in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've heard a lot of better and say
Speaker 3: very different things on this.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So some will say, oh, I would go back today.
Speaker 3: I would get deployed right now if they would take me.
Speaker 3: I've heard others say that I would. I wish it
Speaker 3: would have never joined. I don't think anybody should join it.
Speaker 3: It runs the gambit, right, But to that point, also,
Speaker 3: the military mindset is very singular.
Speaker 4: You have you have lanes.
Speaker 3: Your rank is one line of that lane, and your
Speaker 3: billet or your job, whatever you're currently doing is the
Speaker 3: other line within that lane. As long as you stay
Speaker 3: within your lane, everything's gucci. Everything just works. As soon
Speaker 3: as you try to step out of your lane, you
Speaker 3: get fucking told to get back to where you belong,
Speaker 3: and it's all good. We have a very good working understanding.
Speaker 3: Cut to civilian world, everybody is all over everybody else's ship.
Speaker 3: Nobody knows where they're supposed to be going or what's
Speaker 3: going on. Then I get looked at like the asshole
Speaker 3: when I tell somebody to step out of my fucking lane.
Speaker 2: There's nootic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very chaotic as uh as civilians and people
Speaker 5: get their feelings hurt a lot.
Speaker 4: When you say civilian, you say that negative flings like
Speaker 4: that's not intentional.
Speaker 5: I just meant in the sense of like, obviously I'm
Speaker 5: a civilian. I've been out for a good while, so
Speaker 5: technically I'm a civilian, But I'm meant in the sense
Speaker 5: of mindset wise, you were able to say a lot
Speaker 5: more things in a lot harsher tones than what people
Speaker 5: can handle nowadays. And even if you're in a crisis
Speaker 5: situation and you're like very direct, very stern, and you're speaking,
Speaker 5: you're not yelling, people are still like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: you're yelling at me, Oh my god, my feelings, And
Speaker 5: it's like, I'm not yelling, I'm very direct in like
Speaker 5: you need to be there and you need to move
Speaker 5: your fucking body right now.
Speaker 4: Like being stern with somebody like quite yelling at me.
Speaker 4: It's like my volume has stayed the same.
Speaker 3: I might be a little more directed how I'm talking
Speaker 3: to you, but I have not begun to yell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2: Do you almost feel like like you look like just
Speaker 2: being on that side, you know, being in the military.
Speaker 2: Do you ever look at civilians as if they're like muggles?
Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, every day.
Speaker 4: It depends on the civilian.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, some people, some of them are like amazing,
Speaker 5: but like, man, I feel like we belong to the Yeah,
Speaker 5: to the death eaters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Marine Corps specifically, yes.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, we are like, oh, you're beneath me.
Speaker 6: No, No really, no, no, that's I'm just kidding. No,
Speaker 6: I definitely.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: There was some of the best times of my life
Speaker 6: in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: I wish that some things were different. I wish I
Speaker 5: would have stayed in longer and given it more of
Speaker 5: a go.
Speaker 6: Because of my.
Speaker 5: Experiences, I decided to get out, and I wish I
Speaker 5: would have given it longer time. I have friends that
Speaker 5: are still in the Marine Corps right now, some of
Speaker 5: which that we just ran into in Philadelphia, and it
Speaker 5: was fantastic and I love being able to see and
Speaker 5: hear the different changes and stuff like that. But there
Speaker 5: is a lot that's changed vastly in the Marine Corps
Speaker 5: that I don't know if I would have been like
Speaker 5: cool with some of the changes, I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 5: But that's you know, you kind of get in the
Speaker 5: old people mindset of like, well, this is the way
Speaker 5: I did it, and I don't want to change it.
Speaker 2: So yes, the.
Speaker 4: Old like back in, but seriously in his fucking day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But it's it's crazy because we met a marine
Speaker 5: that just got out like six months ago, and listening
Speaker 5: to her experience versus my experiences. Then listening and talking
Speaker 5: to other female marines varying like twenty years gaps. It
Speaker 5: just depended on who we talked to. They were so crazy.
Speaker 5: Differences so much differences between all of us. Still very
Speaker 5: similar in certain areas, but every marine experiences the Marine
Speaker 5: Corps differently.
Speaker 3: And you were in during the same time period and
Speaker 3: ours exeas were so drastically different.
Speaker 5: Like when we saw where he actually was stationed stuff,
Speaker 5: I was gobsmacked because I was like, what this is?
Speaker 6: This is it?
Speaker 5: This is It's like a fucking padded cell, like it's
Speaker 5: so tiny compared to what I've seen and done, and
Speaker 5: and it's it's all all.
Speaker 6: What was the scene that you would.
Speaker 3: Say marine Corps experiences experience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it varies between people, but I think that could.
Speaker 4: Be military in general, even the Air Force.
Speaker 3: You'll have two people from the Air Force that had
Speaker 3: drastically different experiences even though they were doing kind of
Speaker 3: the same job function but on different coasts.
Speaker 5: My ex husband was in the Marine Corps for almost
Speaker 5: eleven years and versu me, and his experiences were vastly
Speaker 5: different from mine, and listening and hearing his stuff vers
Speaker 5: versus me, it's it's definitely interesting to see the differences
Speaker 5: between everyone. I do think though that going back to
Speaker 5: your point about war, I think there's a time and
Speaker 5: place for war. I think it has its purpose, and
Speaker 5: I think there is reasons for it, do I and
Speaker 5: I But I unfortunately think that we went to war
Speaker 5: believing that we were fighting for something that wasn't real.
Speaker 5: And so would I go back without children? I would
Speaker 5: go back with children. I will not like I would
Speaker 5: not that I would only go to war. I would
Speaker 5: only go to war unless absolutely necessary to protect my children.
Speaker 2: Now, that being said, what if one of your kids
Speaker 2: came up to you whenever they were seventeen or eight
Speaker 2: years eighteen years old and they said, hey, I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about joining. It doesn't even necessarily have to be the Marines,
Speaker 2: but the military in general. What would be your thoughts.
Speaker 5: I've had this conversation with my children quite a few times,
Speaker 5: so is my ex husband, because they see our stuff
Speaker 5: and they, you know, put it on and they want
Speaker 5: to wear it, and they're like, yeah, this is so cool,
Speaker 5: and it's like, you know, it is really cool. And
Speaker 5: there is so many beneficial things with the military, and
Speaker 5: I still have so many dear friends from the military,
Speaker 5: and I loved it.
Speaker 6: But on that same breath, I do not wish that
Speaker 6: for you.
Speaker 5: I want you to exceed in life in other ways,
Speaker 5: because they're.
Speaker 6: On one hand, you come away.
Speaker 5: With so many amazing experiences and discipline and all different things.
Speaker 5: On the other hand, depending on the person, is depending
Speaker 5: on kind of your experiences, potential trauma that you come
Speaker 5: away with, PTSD, you name it. And so I don't
Speaker 5: particularly wish that for my children. I want them to
Speaker 5: pursue other avenues in life, and I want them to
Speaker 5: be able to freely express themselves the way that they want,
Speaker 5: especially the way that they are. I can't I couldn't
Speaker 5: see them conforming in any regard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but could you see yourself conforming when you were twelve?
Speaker 5: You know, I was not the best at conforming. Sometimes
Speaker 5: in the Marine Corps. I will say that I have
Speaker 5: a mouth on me a little bit when I have
Speaker 5: a very strong opinion, and I would ask questions when
Speaker 5: I wasn't supposed to you, and I'm like, but why
Speaker 5: are we doing it like this? Like there's better ways,
Speaker 5: Like why don't we do it the better way?
Speaker 6: And that was kind of the better way.
Speaker 4: Isn't always the Marine Corps way?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely was like, oh, but like should we
Speaker 5: do it that way? Could we do it this way instead?
Speaker 5: Like this would be easier. So I don't see for
Speaker 5: my children personally being doing well for them in any regard.
Speaker 4: And I've told my children this too.
Speaker 3: If y'all want to join the military, first of all,
Speaker 3: I'm going to do everything in my power to prevent that.
Speaker 3: I would rather you choose a better career, feel with
Speaker 3: a better payoff.
Speaker 4: That being said, if it is.
Speaker 3: Truly within your heart of hearts to join, I want
Speaker 3: you to do something that is going to set you
Speaker 3: up for success on the civilian side. I just had
Speaker 3: this conversation with my cousin a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: He's nine, doesn't really know what one wants to do
Speaker 3: with his life. Maybe do something with computers, maybe do
Speaker 3: something in video game development.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: He's kind of open slate as far as that goes.
Speaker 3: May good grades. He's a rather large individual, not like obese.
Speaker 3: He's like six'. Nine dude's a fucking. Giant AND i told,
Speaker 3: Him i'm, like, so here's the. Deal whether you join the,
Speaker 3: military And i'm all branches could be Air, force could Be,
Speaker 3: navy doesn't matter whether you join the Air force now
Speaker 3: and you get out in four years or you get
Speaker 3: out in twenty. Years eventually you are going to be
Speaker 3: in the civilian sector finding a. Job that is the
Speaker 3: way this is going to shake. Out if you are
Speaker 3: going to, join do something that is going to give
Speaker 3: you training that will actually TRANSFER i was. Infantry there
Speaker 3: is nothing that that transfers into the civilian, world not
Speaker 3: even being.
Speaker 4: A, cop BECAUSE i could have GONE mp IF i
Speaker 4: was going to go that.
Speaker 3: Route like real, shit there's not much calling for a
Speaker 3: infantryman in the civilian, section.
Speaker 2: Maybe a security.
Speaker 4: Guard, yeah and hopefully maybe you know WHAT i. Mean but,
Speaker 4: like if you're gonna be a diesel, mechanic Go.
Speaker 3: Army if you're going to be a boat mechanic or
Speaker 3: something along those, lines Go. Navy if you want to
Speaker 3: do something with, computers Go Air, force whatever the case.
Speaker 3: Is but choose a, job and choose a branch that
Speaker 3: is best suited for giving you actual applicable job training
Speaker 3: for when you get.
Speaker 4: Out even if you have a long and stoic.
Speaker 3: Career and you get out a twenty four, years you
Speaker 3: even go past the point of, retirement you make a
Speaker 3: whole thing of. It you're still going to be in
Speaker 3: the civilian world looking for work one, day and you
Speaker 3: want to have something to bring to a potential. Employer
Speaker 3: that is all so the same with my. Kids if
Speaker 3: they decide they want to be a. Veterinarian, yeah the
Speaker 3: military has. Veterinarians, okay how about you get your degree
Speaker 3: and get some civilian world training in, that start seeing
Speaker 3: what veterinarians make in the civilian, world then see if
Speaker 3: you want to go do that in the. Military and
Speaker 3: that's What i'm, Saying like whatever you, do just have a.
Speaker 3: Plan that's the main thing that so many people join
Speaker 3: the military without a.
Speaker 4: Plan they think they have a.
Speaker 3: Plan BUT i, mean, honestly when you were, nineteen you
Speaker 3: thought you had a.
Speaker 4: PLAN i THOUGHT i knew what the fuck was. Up
Speaker 4: WHEN i was, NINETEEN i didn't tell.
Speaker 2: MEHIT i KNEW i didn't have a. Plan, Really so
Speaker 2: that brings me to my next, Question Raven, lee what
Speaker 2: are your? Thoughts and there's no obviously there's no right
Speaker 2: or wrong answers with any of this. SHIT i just
Speaker 2: want to pick your brain a little. Bit jacob is
Speaker 2: a fan of. This there has been a change from
Speaker 2: The department Of defense to The department Of what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts on?
Speaker 6: That, OH i actually watched. IT i watched the whole.
Speaker 6: THING i agree with a lot of.
Speaker 5: IT i think that there so WHEN i was talking
Speaker 5: to other people while we were In, philly there has
Speaker 5: been a lot of changes THAT i didn't even know
Speaker 5: about in just The Marine. Corp because were around marines
Speaker 5: a whole. Bunch so that's WHAT i can speak. ON
Speaker 5: i don't know about the other, branches but, specifically there
Speaker 5: was there's no Fourth, Battalion Female battalion any, longer WHICH
Speaker 5: i was really shocked about.
Speaker 3: An Integrated Paris. Island you didn't hear that when we're
Speaker 3: you doing you're drinking. SOMETHING i knew that they've integrated
Speaker 3: battalions of like all, male like for, instance there's females
Speaker 3: in the, infantry AND i know that for boot camp
Speaker 3: they have men and women sleeping in the same squad.
Speaker 5: Bays apparently they don't sleep in the same squad, bays
Speaker 5: but they do have male and female drill instructors for
Speaker 5: male and.
Speaker 6: Females absolutely not.
Speaker 5: Wow so so this WAS i heard about this actually
Speaker 5: like two or three years ago on the plane from
Speaker 5: an army.
Speaker 6: Girl she was telling me all about, it AND i was,
Speaker 6: like excuse, me.
Speaker 4: The army's been doing that dumb shit for, years BUT i.
Speaker 6: DIDN'T i was, like, oh.
Speaker 5: Okay and then when we were talking to one of
Speaker 5: the people d she was telling me all about it that,
Speaker 5: yes they had male drill instructors that were a part
Speaker 5: of their their battalion and like their.
Speaker 6: Group AND i was, like, wait, what.
Speaker 4: Oh what could fucking possibly go wrong?
Speaker 5: Here so you, know it's it's one of those scenes of, like,
Speaker 5: okay so you took away the all female battalion and
Speaker 5: like having female drill instructors solely with. Females AND i
Speaker 5: could see that in one, sense so like my brother
Speaker 5: battalion and my brother, platoons excuse, me we are not
Speaker 5: allowed to look at each, Other we're not allowed to
Speaker 5: talk to each. Other that is like an absolute no.
Speaker 5: Go we did sit next to, them and we would
Speaker 5: hear some of the rhetoric that they would speak about female,
Speaker 5: marines and it's very.
Speaker 6: Divisive it's very not, yeah, demeaning, cruel.
Speaker 5: Hateful it just breeds a lot of hate and discontent
Speaker 5: between male and female. Marines and it's really hard because
Speaker 5: it gets drilled into. Them and so a lot of
Speaker 5: male marines when they do work with, females have that.
Speaker 6: Mentality not.
Speaker 5: All there's a lot of wonderful males in The Marine
Speaker 5: corps that actually are you, know don't mind female marines
Speaker 5: and stuff like. That BUT i will SAY i have
Speaker 5: met my fair share that absolutely hate female. Marines SO
Speaker 5: i can see on one hand of trying to integrate
Speaker 5: it where like we no longer have that kind of
Speaker 5: speech and, like, look we're all equal across the, board
Speaker 5: blah blah. Blah on the other, HAND i do not
Speaker 5: agree with it because it's taking away from the heritage
Speaker 5: of femal. MARINES i mean that has been there since
Speaker 5: Femal marines were allowed to. Join and also it's a
Speaker 5: breeding ground for issues. Yep and it's, like, okay so
Speaker 5: The department Of, war they're changing it and going back
Speaker 5: to higher, standards which there was a lot of standards
Speaker 5: that started to get. Lax there's a lot of things
Speaker 5: that started TO i don't, know go away and make
Speaker 5: our military look a lot softer than other militaries, yep
Speaker 5: which was not a beneficial thing for us at. All
Speaker 5: we need to look like a, united, standing strong front
Speaker 5: to protect our, nation not a bunch of pansies running
Speaker 5: around like we're just doing.
Speaker 3: Whatever in the words of Mad Dog, madness does whatever
Speaker 3: we're talking about here make you a more effective killer
Speaker 3: of the? Enemy if, not then why the fuck are
Speaker 3: you wasting my time talking to me about?
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 5: YEAH i believe in a lot of this that he,
Speaker 5: said changing. STANDARDS i do personally hope that they go
Speaker 5: back to having male and female you, know, platoons and
Speaker 5: that they have just female drill instructors with female. RECRUITS
Speaker 5: i feel like that is just more beneficial and safer,
Speaker 5: overall because not just on potential having a sexual assault
Speaker 5: or things like, that but also having people crying wolf
Speaker 5: and saying things that could potentially ruin other people's. CAREERS i,
Speaker 5: OVERALL i just think that you're breeding ground for serious
Speaker 5: issues with.
Speaker 6: THAT i don't know if it's.
Speaker 5: HAPPENED i, WELL i meant in the sense OF i
Speaker 5: haven't looked into if it's happened In Paris island with.
Speaker 5: RECRUITS i don't know to what extent how much they're.
Speaker 5: INTEGRATED i actually. DIDN'T i just was listening to other
Speaker 5: people talk about.
Speaker 3: It So Angry, cops who is a content creator who
Speaker 3: is A Special Victims' unit detective In, Buffalo New, york
Speaker 3: but also is still a drill sergeant in The. Army
Speaker 3: he has brought up multiple times when The armies been
Speaker 3: integrated for quite some time as far as their boot
Speaker 3: camp is, concerned and the three complaints that he's actually
Speaker 3: had investigations done on him for all of which he
Speaker 3: beat because he's actually good at his. Job he every
Speaker 3: one of them was a female. Trainee they'll use, recruit
Speaker 3: that's the. Thing so a female trainee who he was
Speaker 3: making them do push ups or something along these lines
Speaker 3: out in plain view for.
Speaker 4: Everybody was never one on.
Speaker 3: One he would never put himself in a position where
Speaker 3: somebody's gonna say, this something happened behind a tree line
Speaker 3: that nobody else. Saw it's always in front of other.
Speaker 3: People but this female trainee will then go up to
Speaker 3: hire and make a sharp's complaint against him because he
Speaker 3: was being mean to me in particular BECAUSE i am a,
Speaker 3: Female and every single time he has to show the
Speaker 3: track record Of, okay that wasn't your first. Offense there
Speaker 3: was a long litany of things that led to this
Speaker 3: corrective action that needed to be. Taken but that's to your,
Speaker 3: Point Raven. Lee it breeds a perfect petri dish of
Speaker 3: horrible shit that can take, place not even in the
Speaker 3: sexual assault or anything like, that just being called out
Speaker 3: and being harassed in, particular or at least somebody who
Speaker 3: claims that they were being harassed in particular based off
Speaker 3: of their gender or whatever else it's it leads to
Speaker 3: horrible things start to.
Speaker 6: Finish but it can also be the.
Speaker 5: Same flip the script and have you, know potentially a
Speaker 5: female DO i you, know mess around with a male
Speaker 5: recruit LIKE i, mean this is this is it goes both.
Speaker 6: Ways.
Speaker 5: YEP i think THAT i, would WHICH i would hope
Speaker 5: not because every female Die i've ever met has been
Speaker 5: locked on and squared away and they're fucking, phenomenal SO
Speaker 5: i you. Know but that also goes into the conversation
Speaker 5: about females in infantry, positions and a lot of people
Speaker 5: have very strong. OPINIONS i will say THAT i personally
Speaker 5: think that if there is going to be a femalees in,
Speaker 5: INFANTRY i would love to see an all female.
Speaker 6: Unit that's just.
Speaker 5: ME i would like to see because you, know is
Speaker 5: It russia that has it all female.
Speaker 4: Sabertines there are certain countries that do have THE russi.
Speaker 5: As one of. Them they have like multiple all female
Speaker 5: units that do perform in infantry positions and, stuff and
Speaker 5: SO i think THAT i would be more. BENEFICIAL i
Speaker 5: think that the females that are in it right, now
Speaker 5: like you got to be a hard, charger you got
Speaker 5: to be you, know a lot of them are working
Speaker 5: their asses off to prove that they are just as
Speaker 5: good as men. Are and they are some of the
Speaker 5: best females That i've, seen not all of, them but
Speaker 5: some of Them i've seen that are actually pretty.
Speaker 3: BADASS i haven't heard one positive story from any BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i have buddies that are still in and still in infantry.
Speaker 3: Battalions not a single female that has hit in infantry
Speaker 3: battalion has been seen as a positive for the.
Speaker 6: Unit well she's not going to, Though.
Speaker 4: No, no, No i'm not saying because of her, peers.
Speaker 6: But she's not going. To just it goes back exactly
Speaker 6: to WHAT i was. Saying.
Speaker 5: Though you have an entire boys club of men that
Speaker 5: feel very, well a lot.
Speaker 6: Of them feel some type of way about femal.
Speaker 5: Marines so it doesn't matter if she's like the fucking
Speaker 5: go getter of go, getters the most badass can do you, outrun, out,
Speaker 5: out dude out, Everyone she's still going to be looked down.
Speaker 4: Upon, no, no that's my.
Speaker 3: Point if that was the case every infantry marine That
Speaker 3: i've talked, to if you were to hold the female
Speaker 3: infantry marines to the male infantry marine, standards they would
Speaker 3: have no problem with. It that everybody's cool that you
Speaker 3: can lift the same as, us run the same time as,
Speaker 3: us carry or pack the same as. Us THEN i
Speaker 3: don't typically. Care every single female THAT i have heard of.
Speaker 3: It i'm not saying that there is not some exception
Speaker 3: to the rules out, there just in the stories That i've,
Speaker 3: heard every one of them has become a hindrance to
Speaker 3: the platoon or to the company because they can't hike
Speaker 3: the same distances with the same, weight they can't do
Speaker 3: the actual job. Function and now certain exceptions have to
Speaker 3: be made bringing down the overall defensive posture of the
Speaker 3: platoon because they have to hold on for their weakest
Speaker 3: link to catch.
Speaker 4: Up And i'm not okay with that.
Speaker 3: Now like you, said if it was an entire female
Speaker 3: platoon or female battalion of war fighters in that, regard then.
Speaker 4: OKAY i think it would.
Speaker 5: Be, better honestly for everyone involved if they had a
Speaker 5: female platoon, battalion AND i think it would BE i
Speaker 5: think it would solve a lot of issues, personally a
Speaker 5: lot of issues That i've. Seen so back to your
Speaker 5: point about the about the you know what is, It
Speaker 5: commander Of.
Speaker 4: War chief war The secretary Of.
Speaker 6: WAR i was like someone of the guys of.
Speaker 2: War, oh he, says, YEAH i went from the DO
Speaker 2: d to The.
Speaker 5: DOWLLY i do, THINK i do think he had a
Speaker 5: lot of good points and that we are looked down
Speaker 5: upon right now of having a very weak force and
Speaker 5: so bringing our fighting force back up to where it
Speaker 5: needs to be into the standards of OLD i think
Speaker 5: that it is a positive.
Speaker 3: Thing and also his whole thing about how everybody's getting
Speaker 3: height and weighted every. Year everybody already does, this, well,
Speaker 3: no but not every branch does TWO pt tests a.
Speaker 4: Year The Marine corps, does and so that's the.
Speaker 3: Deal when we were listening to him give his speech
Speaker 3: to all those generals and admirals face to, face everybody
Speaker 3: was losing their mind that everybody came To, Quatico virginia
Speaker 3: for this big, talk and he gave his big.
Speaker 4: Spiel every bit of what he.
Speaker 3: Said we were listening like The marine corpsis does, That
Speaker 3: like we've always done. That so now he's trying to
Speaker 3: get everybody to par with what The Marine corps does
Speaker 3: and holds ourselves, accountable Which i'm not, AGAINST i.
Speaker 4: THINK i think it's crazy that we haven't been doing
Speaker 4: that thus. Far that's.
Speaker 6: Crazy there is a lot of fat bodies in the,
Speaker 6: Army oh my.
Speaker 3: God in The navy. Too did you see these six,
Speaker 3: Shit i'm trying to, remember are you? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no although there was a. Female, yes there was six
Speaker 3: people and if you're not, mistaken too were, female, fine,
Speaker 3: fine but four were. Male more of these were.
Speaker 6: Male they were like all, pudgy weren't? They they were the.
Speaker 3: Fuck and they had the audacity to get promoted to
Speaker 3: was like lieutenant. COMMANDER i don't know what the navy rank,
Speaker 3: is but they were of some kind of a nuclear
Speaker 3: job something where it's a very niche job market and
Speaker 3: you have to keep in house the people that are
Speaker 3: good at that.
Speaker 4: Job AND i can appreciate, that.
Speaker 3: But you're not even going to hold them to the
Speaker 3: very basic standards of taping and hype weight. MEASURING i
Speaker 3: guarantee there's no way that fucker's getting a hundred. Crunches
Speaker 3: there's no way he's running a mile and a half
Speaker 3: in any kind of realistic time.
Speaker 5: Frame, listen then them. Crunches, everyone everyone has a way
Speaker 5: of getting them. Crunches.
Speaker 4: OH i was really good at the.
Speaker 3: Crunches the polls were what sucked for me BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: had these long ass, arms and, shit.
Speaker 5: Everybody would help each other. Out you gotta there's a.
Speaker 5: Way there's a certain.
Speaker 3: Way, okay, yeah but it's the standard has been dropped for,
Speaker 3: years And i'm very happy that he seth is uh
Speaker 3: installing back some of the standards for.
Speaker 2: Sure next, question are commis?
Speaker 4: People good, Question it's a very good. Question thank you for.
Speaker 2: Asking really that that's a Famous jacob, quote SO i
Speaker 2: have to throw it out.
Speaker 3: There i've been very prolific in my. Opinion But Raven,
Speaker 3: lee what is your take on?
Speaker 6: THIS i, mean technically they are. Humans, okay that's a.
Speaker 4: Take that's the.
Speaker 5: Take technically people can have their opinions on what they
Speaker 5: want to believe and.
Speaker 6: Do uh, yep that's that's Where i'm at.
Speaker 2: With, it all. Right next, QUESTION i feel the same as,
Speaker 2: you by the, Way but next, question most people.
Speaker 4: Do i'm JUST i just don't see it that. Way i'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry very staunch in your bias. Beliefs that's Why i'm.
Speaker 2: Here he likes to take it to the extreme with.
Speaker 2: That but that's all. Right Now are dinosaurs fake and? Gay?
Speaker 6: Ah, so good? Question oh? MAN i SO i believe
Speaker 6: that there are some.
Speaker 5: Dinosaurs obviously that we can prove that there weren't there weren't. Others,
Speaker 5: NOW i don't know the time frame in WHICH i
Speaker 5: believe that they were AROUND i do believe that there
Speaker 5: was prehistoric some type of prehistoric, dinosaurs because we still
Speaker 5: have certain animals and mammals and you, know sea.
Speaker 6: Life that is from that time. Period.
Speaker 5: UH i am curious to see which ones are actually
Speaker 5: real and which ones are. Not but you, know The
Speaker 5: smithsonian likes to lie and hide, things and destroy stuff
Speaker 5: and and fake things and and so it's kind of
Speaker 5: hard to figure out which, truth which thing is truthful or.
Speaker 6: Not BUT i do believe in some. Dinosaurs i'll say, that.
Speaker 2: Oh very, well all, right next. One and this is
Speaker 2: something that we had to learn the hard. Way did
Speaker 2: you know that the word eskimo is not profoundly accepted
Speaker 2: and slandered?
Speaker 4: Term, YEAH i didn't know.
Speaker 2: That we always thought that that's just what they were.
Speaker 6: Called it's a slandered.
Speaker 4: TERM i seriously thought the white people put that term on.
Speaker 4: THEM i learned that It's.
Speaker 3: Inuits, yeah super super didn't know, that AND i don't
Speaker 3: think they live In.
Speaker 4: Some.
Speaker 3: Do but it's not as prolific as the cartoons would
Speaker 3: have you.
Speaker 6: Believe you should definitely.
Speaker 5: Watch they have some really cool TikTok content creators that
Speaker 5: Are inuit that show how to like properly make their
Speaker 5: different types of stuff that they, eat like. Seals, yeah oh,
Speaker 5: man some people lose their minds when they go into.
Speaker 5: It but they actually a lot of them are famous
Speaker 5: now for doing their tattoos on their, faces the.
Speaker 6: Females that's how they have gained like.
Speaker 5: Traction they're really interesting to listen to you and watch
Speaker 5: their culture and like how it really hasn't changed in
Speaker 5: a lot of. WAYS i highly recommend following some of
Speaker 5: those content creators because they're really, informative at least for
Speaker 5: people that don't have any experience with.
Speaker 3: Them, yeah and the whole igloo, thing there's YouTube videos
Speaker 3: out where they show how they build an.
Speaker 4: Igloo that's like a handful of tribes even.
Speaker 3: In comparison to the northernmost tribes Of North, america that
Speaker 3: is not a prolific thing. Continent why there's only a
Speaker 3: few of them that go far enough north to even
Speaker 3: justify building an. Igloo most of them stick more towards
Speaker 3: the forest regions where there is wood readily.
Speaker 4: Available and if.
Speaker 3: Anything those were used more for like hunting outposts for a.
Speaker 3: Season that was not like they're year round living, situations and.
Speaker 2: Nilus really aren't that hard to make. Either like if
Speaker 2: you've ever, WELL i mean.
Speaker 6: You live in this south's so long to.
Speaker 5: DO i built one in my whole life and it
Speaker 5: took me literally an entire. Day BUT i also was
Speaker 5: like seven years old to Be. Yeah it was one
Speaker 5: of those recycling cans or you guys don't have, those
Speaker 5: but we have like recycling.
Speaker 2: Boxes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah AND i did that each one by, hand.
Speaker 3: Buddy so WHEN i was watching, this it's about what
Speaker 3: type of snow or what type of ice it. Is
Speaker 3: there is ice it is too hard to, use there's
Speaker 3: ice that is too soft to. Use you have to
Speaker 3: find the right, spot and then when they cut it
Speaker 3: out with a, saw they know like how they're doing.
Speaker 3: It the very similar to the ship what's it, Called
Speaker 3: jonathan the spot In rome where there's like a hole
Speaker 3: in the ceiling where the sunlight comes.
Speaker 4: In not the oculus.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 4: SHIT i forget the.
Speaker 3: Building it's a very famous, building but basically it's like
Speaker 3: a engineering marble because the ones at the bottom of
Speaker 3: the dome are thicker than the pieces at the.
Speaker 4: Top they're made out of concrete.
Speaker 6: Thickness, YEAH i know what you're, building your. DAMN i
Speaker 6: don't even think about.
Speaker 4: IT i want to, say it's not The. Oculus maybe
Speaker 4: It are you sure it might be called The Oculus?
Speaker 2: Pantheon, well, yeah it says the building In rome with
Speaker 2: the hole in its roof is The, pantheon a Former
Speaker 2: roman temple that is now a. Church the whole called
Speaker 2: the oculus is a is a circular opening at the
Speaker 2: top of its dome that allows in light and.
Speaker 4: Air so, okay The pantheon with the oculus at the.
Speaker 3: Top the way that they engineered, that believe it or,
Speaker 3: not is very very similar to how these very Northernmost
Speaker 3: inuit tribes would build their. Igloos and there's a lot
Speaker 3: of like crazy engineering that these they learned as, children,
Speaker 3: right and they just kind of learned this on the
Speaker 3: fly through trial and, error and it's wild to watch them.
Speaker 4: Build but, yeah that is but did They?
Speaker 6: Oh but did?
Speaker 5: THEY i mean you're talking about two separate places that
Speaker 5: had no contact with each, other yet somehow they all
Speaker 5: have similar.
Speaker 6: Buildings i'm just, SAYING i don't.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, well, LOOK i did want to, say because
Speaker 2: we're coming up on, it well we still got a little,
Speaker 2: while BUT i just you, know you never know how
Speaker 2: long people listen to a full episodes or. Not BUT
Speaker 2: i am going to be going full time With metamists
Speaker 2: sticks you, know very, soon and this is going to
Speaker 2: be my last week of being full time with The.
Speaker 2: Cult Like jacob, SAID i will still be coming on
Speaker 2: Every tuesday night for the live shows because that's just
Speaker 2: what we fucking, do and So i'll still be here for.
Speaker 2: That i'm not entirely going. Away, Also i'm going to
Speaker 2: be in charge of the social. Media so whenever you
Speaker 2: reach out and you have a question For jacob Or
Speaker 2: raven anything like, That i'm going to be kind of
Speaker 2: like the in, between right and So i'll be answering
Speaker 2: all of those, messages whether it be on TikTok Or
Speaker 2: instagram Or twitter or, wherever and and that way that
Speaker 2: gives them a little bit more time to focus on
Speaker 2: the important, shit you, know the research and you, know
Speaker 2: the actual shooting of the episodes and stuff like. That
Speaker 2: i'm also going to be in charge of scheduling. Guests
Speaker 2: so if, anybody you, know maybe you have a suggestion
Speaker 2: that you, want you, know you want to see somebody
Speaker 2: come on the, show or you have a contact that
Speaker 2: you think needs to needs their story heard by the
Speaker 2: Mass cult members of the. World then you'll be able
Speaker 2: to reach out right there to, me whether it is, TikTok, Instagram, twitter, YouTube, wherever.
Speaker 2: Right and SO i just want to say that it's
Speaker 2: no longer just going to be, us like just checking
Speaker 2: and you, know because it's been kind of hard for us.
Speaker 2: To you, know we have somebody that has been making
Speaker 2: our social media, content but it's been really hard to
Speaker 2: read all the messages and respond back to. Everybody it's
Speaker 2: been kind of a task because we're just so damn
Speaker 2: busy with all of our shows and. Everything and so
Speaker 2: now WE i will be checking that every. Day it'll
Speaker 2: be a part of my. Job and so my Job
Speaker 2: i'm gonna kind of be like the man in the,
Speaker 2: chair you, Know Spider man has what's his friend's, Name
Speaker 2: ned or some shit guy in the chair that, is you,
Speaker 2: know helping orchestrate almost from. Beyond Maybe I'll i'll Still
Speaker 2: i'm Sure i'll be given you, know show ideas and and.
Speaker 2: Guests And I'm i'm really trying to add two and
Speaker 2: not take. Away AND i think that now that this
Speaker 2: is turned in to a somewhat of a, threesome you,
Speaker 2: know without the things going in holes and, whatnot but you,
Speaker 2: know more of a spiritual threesome then that now we'll
Speaker 2: be able to really boost it up to the levels
Speaker 2: that we've always believed that it could. Be and to be,
Speaker 2: honest we're shocked that it ever even got this, big
Speaker 2: with this big of a following and stuff like. That
Speaker 2: so we really appreciate all the good cult members for
Speaker 2: helping us with that dream and. Everything but now is
Speaker 2: the time THAT i believe that with the three of
Speaker 2: us really working on, it that it's going to just
Speaker 2: exceed expectations even more than it already. HAS i personally,
Speaker 2: believe AND i Know jacob does as, well believe In
Speaker 2: ravenlee to be able to take this show to the next.
Speaker 2: Level we wouldn't do. IT i wouldn't be stepping away
Speaker 2: from this show IF i didn't know that it wasn't
Speaker 2: in good. Hands LIKE i know that it's in good.
Speaker 2: HANDS i know That raven's going to be bringing a
Speaker 2: balance and you, know some intelligence and some curiosity to this,
Speaker 2: show looking at everything through a keen hawkey and really
Speaker 2: looking at things that me And jacob probably never would
Speaker 2: have looked. Into you, know whenever it comes to even
Speaker 2: the scientific kind of, shit and, no not all science
Speaker 2: is faking, gay but there is a lot of it
Speaker 2: that it. Is and so it's going to be y'all's
Speaker 2: job now to disseminate the good shit from the bad.
Speaker 2: Shit BUT i did want to, say if you still
Speaker 2: want to be able to TO i guess follow. Me
Speaker 2: LIKE i, Said i'm still gonna be On, Metamistics we're
Speaker 2: gonna Be we're posting three times a. Week You i'm
Speaker 2: sure you have been listening to The metamistics. EPISODES i
Speaker 2: see the downloads and the comments and all that fun
Speaker 2: stuff on the on the podcast and, everything but we
Speaker 2: are going to be trying to essentially take uh take
Speaker 2: our talents To South beach Like, lebron did you know
Speaker 2: WHAT i? Mean and just Fucking we're going to try
Speaker 2: and just be our own standalone kind of. Thing and
Speaker 2: we you, know we were posting all of our episodisodes
Speaker 2: On The cult to really get more eyes and more
Speaker 2: ears on on that, podcast but we are now trying
Speaker 2: to take the training wheels off and go and be
Speaker 2: our own. Thing that being, said we're still gonna be
Speaker 2: posting one episode a week On The, cult but if
Speaker 2: you want access to all three and in the, Future
Speaker 2: i'm sure there will be four and five a week
Speaker 2: at some. Point then you're gonna have to go over
Speaker 2: to The metamistics podcast and subscribe over. There it's free
Speaker 2: to listen to On apple And spotify and stuff like.
Speaker 2: That we're also on, YouTube by the, way but if
Speaker 2: you want to get the shows a couple of days in,
Speaker 2: advance just like over, here we have A Patreon patreon
Speaker 2: dot com slash. Metamistics that link is in the show
Speaker 2: notes of every Single metamistics. Episode we're also over On
Speaker 2: instagram and TikTok and everywhere. Else so, yeah we appreciate
Speaker 2: the support and we hope to see you on the other.
Speaker 2: Side but, yeah, DUDE i, mean.
Speaker 3: That's so for the cult Conspiracy, PATREON i KNOW i
Speaker 3: have been slacking on responding to the. MESSAGES i was
Speaker 3: driving went across the continent, basically SO i will be
Speaker 3: getting back on those this week as of a time of.
Speaker 3: Recording this is coming out, Tomorrow so just everybody is. Aware,
Speaker 3: YES i know the past WEEK i have slacked on
Speaker 3: The patreon. MESSAGES i will be answering. Everybody we are
Speaker 3: all we're all on the same page, Here we're all.
Speaker 3: Good but but, yeah And i'm glad that this is
Speaker 3: going in the direction that it's.
Speaker 4: Going this is not a hostile takeover by any.
Speaker 3: Means this is Not jonathan, saying you, know he's tired
Speaker 3: of me and my, shit so he's just going and
Speaker 3: taking his ball and going home like.
Speaker 4: That that's not the vibe here at any.
Speaker 2: Regard, No, no you, know this was something that we talked,
Speaker 2: about and to be, honest you, KNOW i had mentioned
Speaker 2: it a couple of months, ago just the idea of
Speaker 2: it going in another. Direction but it has been something
Speaker 2: That i've been thinking about for longer than. That you,
Speaker 2: Know LIKE i love AND i AND i love. Conspiracies
Speaker 2: don't get me, Wrong i'm never gonna lose my love
Speaker 2: for conspiracies BECAUSE i think that the tool that they
Speaker 2: are to help shatter illusions of what you deem as
Speaker 2: reality is. Invaluable you, know whether it doesn't matter which
Speaker 2: one it, Is it doesn't even matter that the one
Speaker 2: that you believe, in even if it is not true
Speaker 2: or fake or fictitious or fantastical or. Whatever just to
Speaker 2: get your perspective to change on anything IS i, MEAN
Speaker 2: i think that that is one of the most valuable
Speaker 2: things ever and to be, honest one of my first
Speaker 2: things with that was Flat.
Speaker 1: Earth.
Speaker 2: DUDE i became a Flat earth or falking die hard
Speaker 2: with that kind of. Shit Now i'm not necessarily about
Speaker 2: that life. Anymore, PERSONALLY i do love hearing those kind
Speaker 2: of conversations though they're fun to. Me you, know it's
Speaker 2: like reading a comic. Book but but you, know it's
Speaker 2: it's just so crazy to see that perspective shift and
Speaker 2: just to know that you don't know. Shit you, know
Speaker 2: none of us know. Anything we don't know why the
Speaker 2: fuck we're, here we don't know where we're, going we
Speaker 2: don't know the purpose of. Anything, PERSONALLY i think that
Speaker 2: our purpose is to find our. PURPOSE i think that
Speaker 2: it's up to each. Individual but, yeah, dude a bunch
Speaker 2: of a bunch of great things to come here in the.
Speaker 2: Future that being, SAID i do have a, gift a
Speaker 2: parting gift for the two of. You oh and and
Speaker 2: if you don't like, it you don't have to run with.
Speaker 2: It it's just it's a. Suggestion BUT i reached out
Speaker 2: to our boy The doodle And, dork and obviously my
Speaker 2: face is not going to be on The cult Of conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Anymore we had talked about you, know are we just
Speaker 2: going to take away the faces and keep the? Microphone
Speaker 2: but to be, honest that looked kind of bland to.
Speaker 2: Me you know it doesn't you? Know AND i wanted
Speaker 2: to make this as conspiratorial AS i possibly could WHENEVER
Speaker 2: i was coming up with this, idea and SO i
Speaker 2: want you to be open. Minded but also, yes, yes
Speaker 2: SO i did want to show y'all the potentially new
Speaker 2: logo of The cult Of. Conspiracy, now LIKE i, said
Speaker 2: if you want to change it, up totally. Fine this
Speaker 2: was kind of just born out of my, own you,
Speaker 2: know fucking disillusioned mine, personally but.
Speaker 4: The.
Speaker 2: Trip but, once ONCE i show it to, you allow
Speaker 2: me to explain WHY i did.
Speaker 4: It, Okay, Okay i'm, terrified but let's do.
Speaker 6: IT i, Know i'm, like what did you?
Speaker 5: Do all?
Speaker 2: Right let's go right? Here, okay so let me. Explain
Speaker 2: so first, off obviously you Got jacob right.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 2: Jacob, No jacob is essentially like a teen. Wolf he's
Speaker 2: in the middle of. Transformation he is part, wolf part. Man.
Speaker 2: Okay and obviously you're gonna have the The night helmet
Speaker 2: up top, Right AND i was, like, dude wear, wolves
Speaker 2: bigfoot fucking Skin. Walkers it's as conspiratorial as it, gets,
Speaker 2: Right AND i was, like of course you gotta throw
Speaker 2: the shades in there and, everything and and he tried
Speaker 2: making your beard, shorter AND i, said, No jacob is
Speaker 2: the beard of the. Show let him have. That, ALSO
Speaker 2: i wanted to, say my, god did he get pinpoint
Speaker 2: accuracy on your fucking caterpillar? Eyebrows, dude because those things
Speaker 2: are pokem.
Speaker 4: Brows are fucking. Prolific on top of, yes.
Speaker 2: Yes and as for Raven lee otherwise known As, ZOMBIE i, thought,
Speaker 2: dude let's make her on dead and to throw a
Speaker 2: little caveat in, THERE i gave you a necktat of
Speaker 2: a raven so that right. There so so it's zombies and.
Speaker 2: Werewolves if that's not, CONSPIRACY i don't know what is.
Speaker 6: That it took les my nerd. Heart, OH i love got.
Speaker 4: The no yo your?
Speaker 2: Eyebrow, yeah, dude.
Speaker 6: MAN i look like a, bitch but you Know i'm
Speaker 6: here for.
Speaker 4: It. Yo hey.
Speaker 2: DUDE i just thought it was the most comic y
Speaker 2: conspiratorial as it. Gets SO i love.
Speaker 4: It it's so. FUN i feel like it's. Fun the
Speaker 4: ears are.
Speaker 6: Funny i'm not gonna lie the ears are. HILARIOUS i,
Speaker 6: mean are you an?
Speaker 2: Elf, like, yeah, yeah it's it, was you, know and
Speaker 2: you had to throw the flannel in right here for,
Speaker 2: You jacob of. Course BUT i, thought, damn that is
Speaker 2: going TO i think it almost speaks looking.
Speaker 6: On, point like your top of smallers or your, bombs
Speaker 6: just like it's.
Speaker 4: Not my top of smaller is just covered by the.
Speaker 2: Dang yeah, dude so uh it's so.
Speaker 6: Fun.
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean so it's up to. You you guys
Speaker 2: can run with it or change things up on it or.
Speaker 2: Whatever there was multiple renditions of, this just so you.
Speaker 2: KNOW i worked fucking like a week on this, one
Speaker 2: just trying to describe it to our, boy The dooodle And,
Speaker 2: dorks so big shout out to. Him, yeah but, yeah,
Speaker 2: Yeah Well i'm glad you guys like.
Speaker 4: It that's.
Speaker 2: Awesome that's.
Speaker 6: AWESOME i love.
Speaker 2: It so that will be coming soon if you.
Speaker 5: Guys both really should tell the reason WHY i go by,
Speaker 5: zombie BECAUSE i feel like so many people are, like
Speaker 5: what the?
Speaker 2: FUCK i just thought that you liked the. Cranberries SO i.
Speaker 5: Actually have a tattoo in my inner lip that says.
Speaker 5: Zombie OH i got it in the marine. Corps you're
Speaker 5: not allowed to get your lip. Tattooed it was kind
Speaker 5: of MY i was going through a bit of a,
Speaker 5: situation and it was my omen of saying fuck.
Speaker 3: You you mean you weren't willing to conform as you already openly.
Speaker 6: Admitted first of, ALL i, SAID i asked.
Speaker 5: Questions, SECONDLY i actually belonged to a zombie. Group me
Speaker 5: and my three, friends my. Boys we formed a Zombie
Speaker 5: coalition group and we would get drunk out in town
Speaker 5: and we would spend countless hours talking about zombie, conspiracies
Speaker 5: how to prepare for a zombie, apocalypse what actual documentation
Speaker 5: as of that time was. Out because you have to,
Speaker 5: understand some of these people were data, marines which means
Speaker 5: that they're really really good with the Dark.
Speaker 6: Web they're really good with the web in. General and
Speaker 6: so we found a whole bunch of interesting videos back
Speaker 6: in the.
Speaker 5: DAY i don't even know if they're still, available but
Speaker 5: there are some zombie videos that we watched that really
Speaker 5: made us think that there was going to be a
Speaker 5: zombie apocalypse probably the next couple. Decades and so we
Speaker 5: as like just kind of something to pass the. Time
Speaker 5: we would talk all the time about, zombies AND i
Speaker 5: became pretty. Obsessed i've read probably two hundred zombie books
Speaker 5: And i'm gonna lie Like i've read so, many watched
Speaker 5: pretty much every kind of zombie movie you could ever think.
Speaker 5: Of and SO i got the tattoo all those years,
Speaker 5: ago and SO i still go by the.
Speaker 2: Zombie so just out of, curiosity And i'm asking this
Speaker 2: for a, reason but what is your thought on the
Speaker 2: zombie Movie Warm?
Speaker 6: BODIES i actually really fuck with.
Speaker 5: IT i like the idea of that memories in love
Speaker 5: can actually bring back the. UNDEAD i thought it was
Speaker 5: really a cool concept and that maybe there was energy
Speaker 5: being able to be exchanged between the two of them
Speaker 5: and slowly he could find his humanity again and not
Speaker 5: be a. Zombie SO i actually thought it was a
Speaker 5: cool idea compared to like a lot of the other
Speaker 5: ones where you're just, like, man.
Speaker 6: You're just gonna, die like you're just gonna be.
Speaker 2: Eaten, well that was the idea WHENEVER i sent him
Speaker 2: to have like you as a. ZOMBIE i didn't want
Speaker 2: you your fucking flesh rotting or any of that, shit
Speaker 2: or looking like literally a demon out of hell or
Speaker 2: anything like. That and SO i send him a picture
Speaker 2: of the guy From Warm bodies as like the imagination
Speaker 2: to try and like bestow on you in that. Picture
Speaker 2: So i'm happy you like that.
Speaker 5: Movie so, yeah, NO i. DO i like the, movie
Speaker 5: LIKE i like a lot of the zombie. SHOWS i constantly,
Speaker 5: question Like The Walking, dead they would have seasons, where you,
Speaker 5: know they could wear the flesh of the dead and
Speaker 5: they could walk through, everybody and then they would just
Speaker 5: do it one time and that'd be, it And i'm,
Speaker 5: like why why are you not doing this all the?
Speaker 5: Time so you know he's getting eaten LIKE i. Don't,
Speaker 5: Yeah so we just. Talked we were big nerds about.
Speaker 5: IT i don't know if The colt knows, this because
Speaker 5: a lot of people look at me and don't think
Speaker 5: That i'm a, Nerd BUT i, am in fact a hardcore.
Speaker 3: Nerd you're also a quite Prolific marvel, nerd If i'm not, mistaken,
Speaker 3: CORRECT i do.
Speaker 6: Like The Marvel let's go there quite a.
Speaker 5: Lot AND i Am my favorite pastime is, artwork AND
Speaker 5: i enjoy, gardening AND i enjoy reading dark high, fantasy
Speaker 5: romant romance. Books, no it's not. SMUT i know people
Speaker 5: are gonna be, like but. Hack, Look i've been a
Speaker 5: part of that group for a long. Time it is
Speaker 5: ACTUALLY i enjoy the storytelling and the character, building and
Speaker 5: SO i like the high fantasy worlds that these women can.
Speaker 5: CREATE i like book, series so like anything above, SIX
Speaker 5: i am, like sign me. UP i think there's one
Speaker 5: series that has like forty nine books And i've read
Speaker 5: every one of.
Speaker 2: Them Damn. God that's a Dedicated.
Speaker 6: Empire series and it's so.
Speaker 2: Good, well, look we're coming up on this two hour,
Speaker 2: mark and just to try and get an idea what
Speaker 2: can the cult members expect from this show moving forward
Speaker 2: with the dichotomy and the things that you guys are
Speaker 2: going to be, bringing we are.
Speaker 3: Definitely gonna be diving into every conspiracy we can get
Speaker 3: our hands. On we are gonna be talking, about, yes
Speaker 3: some current, events BECAUSE i don't, know if you've watched
Speaker 3: the news, lately they just keep doing shit for us
Speaker 3: to take and dissect and find the deeper meaning and
Speaker 3: the actual truth behind. It we're gonna be talking about
Speaker 3: some conspiratorial things from the, past, right not just of
Speaker 3: the fifties and, sixties but even some historical anomalies that
Speaker 3: have been led into what we would call truth, today
Speaker 3: which more and more scholars are able to, debunk and
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about some of the reasons why
Speaker 3: those are.
Speaker 4: The narrative up until.
Speaker 3: Recently we're gonna be talking about a lot of science,
Speaker 3: things a lot of environmental, things a lot of just
Speaker 3: all encompassing, Right we're not gonna be a one flavor
Speaker 3: by any. Means we are going to be covering every
Speaker 3: single conceivable conspiracy that we can get our hands.
Speaker 6: ON i do want to cover a lot of.
Speaker 5: Conspiracies there's a lot of information THAT i personally want
Speaker 5: to read about and find out more about that it
Speaker 5: has been happening like throughout. TIME i think THAT i
Speaker 5: feel like people are gonna be concerned Because i'm not
Speaker 5: as esoteric As jonathan.
Speaker 6: Is BUT i will say THAT i am not also
Speaker 6: just gonna be like, WE i, know just going along with.
Speaker 5: Everything there's a lot THAT i question in and of,
Speaker 5: itself especially when it comes to religious, things But i'm
Speaker 5: NOT i personally don't want to spend days and days
Speaker 5: and days on. RELIGION i think there's so many other
Speaker 5: topics that we could. Cover AND i will say that
Speaker 5: we have talked a lot about like different kinds of,
Speaker 5: like we just did a blood, episode which is a
Speaker 5: really random, episode but also people should know about the blood.
Speaker 6: Industry it's something that we all.
Speaker 5: Need and so a lot of topics personally for, me
Speaker 5: is about things that we as people need and that
Speaker 5: we use every. DAY i have a passion for wanting
Speaker 5: to talk about those, things BUT i am down to
Speaker 5: talk about, everything, geopolitical you name.
Speaker 6: It there's a lot of things THAT i want to
Speaker 6: learn more. About so that's kind of Where i'm at with.
Speaker 2: It hell, yeah. Dude, WELL i think that the good
Speaker 2: cult members are in good, hands, dude And i'm really
Speaker 2: excited to see how this show is going to transform
Speaker 2: and remain the same in every. ASPECT i think, that you,
Speaker 2: know it's only going to evolve from, here And i'm
Speaker 2: really excited AND i will be, listening So i'm not checking.
Speaker 2: Out i'm not tuned out. Obviously i'm still going to
Speaker 2: be editing clips and helping promote the show and trying
Speaker 2: to get guests and. Everything So i'm always going to
Speaker 2: be the number one. Fan sorry about, that, Spirit, animal
Speaker 2: but get behind, Me, satan all, right that's just the
Speaker 2: way it's going to.
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Speaker 2: ANIMAL i love, You, Sam you're the. Man but that being, said,
Speaker 2: yeah And i'll still be showing, up you, know whenever
Speaker 2: we you, know get invited to conferences and, Shit i'll
Speaker 2: fucking be, there. Dude it's not that this.
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Speaker 2: thank you everybody for following us along on this, journey
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Speaker 2: HERE i love both of you very, dearly And i'm
Speaker 2: excited to see where this is going to. Go so,
Speaker 2: yeah stay. Tuned it's only going to get more. Awesome
Speaker 2: just to say, that.
Speaker 6: But oh, YEAH i think.
Speaker 2: So oh, yeah, Dude i'm really looking forward to. It, well,
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Speaker 3: a trip with me down memory lane real. Quick we
Speaker 3: started off in the spare room of your single, wide
Speaker 3: and we had no fucking clue what we were. DOING
Speaker 3: i was drinking pretty much every, episode if not some
Speaker 3: other form of anebe or.
Speaker 4: Inebriation we were just kind of shooting in the, dark
Speaker 4: just seeing what would, happen, right and, we weirdly enough
Speaker 4: developed a little bit of a.
Speaker 3: Following we had enough listeners where it was, like, damn
Speaker 3: this this is, fun where like people actually want to
Speaker 3: hear what we have to.
Speaker 4: Say that's.
Speaker 3: Cool cut To we decided to make a business out of,
Speaker 3: it and then we go To christie's metaphysical, Shop The,
Speaker 3: Awakening The Awakening, right and we worked out a deal
Speaker 3: with her and we built our own studio in the
Speaker 3: back section of Her i'm just gonna call it A
Speaker 3: ViBe's studio because the front side is where you buy
Speaker 3: the crystals and the incense and all.
Speaker 4: That but the back it was basically just a meditation.
Speaker 4: HUB i don't know what to properly say to call,
Speaker 4: that but. Yeah and we even brought the couch from
Speaker 4: my living room into that, studio, which for the, record
Speaker 4: that l shaped. Couch we had to take off the
Speaker 4: chase lounger off the, side but that thing took up
Speaker 4: the entirety of that little closet of a studio that
Speaker 4: we built for. Ourselves but it was still awesome because
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 2: Ours, YEAH i miss.
Speaker 4: It cut to cut. Two we Leave christie's, shop you
Speaker 4: move out of, state AND i had to end up
Speaker 4: building my own studio at my, house my own home.
Speaker 4: Office we quit our. Jobs you were able to quit
Speaker 4: your job probably two.
Speaker 2: Years BEFORE i was able to something like, that maybe
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 3: RIGHT i was finally able to walk away from my
Speaker 3: career THAT i had worked years to get to because
Speaker 3: this seemed like it was going to take off and
Speaker 3: be more financially beneficial and more time. Beneficial i'd be
Speaker 3: able to spend more time with my, children be a
Speaker 3: more present, father and all these things for my, kids
Speaker 3: which it, has and it has.
Speaker 4: Paid off in.
Speaker 3: Droves and now you, know cut to we're taking this
Speaker 3: next step of the evolution of this, show bringing on
Speaker 3: another co. Host we're not losing. Anything it is only
Speaker 3: growth in Gaining let's be very honest about. This and
Speaker 3: it's been a wild ride thus, far AND i cannot
Speaker 3: wait to see what happens.
Speaker 2: Next you, Know, oh it's it's been a beautiful ride
Speaker 2: and one THAT i definitely couldn't e. Eroad you, know
Speaker 2: like there's some there's some things that just happen in
Speaker 2: this life that you're just, like, man there is no
Speaker 2: movie that could have scripted. This it almost seems like
Speaker 2: it was a. Movie you, know looking, Back i'm you,
Speaker 2: know there's just so many fond memories and so many
Speaker 2: great times in a amazing, conversations amazing people we've come
Speaker 2: in contact, with And i'm just eternally grateful and. Thankful
Speaker 2: AND i do want to say to the good cult
Speaker 2: members out, there thank you for helping us kind of
Speaker 2: live our. Dream our, families thank, you our, kids thank.
Speaker 2: You we're able to be able to provide doing what
Speaker 2: we love AND i know that you guys will be
Speaker 2: able to carry that torch and it's just going to
Speaker 2: get more awesome from. Here so from our heart to,
Speaker 2: yours we love, You we thank, you and we appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Greatly thank, you and.
Speaker 4: Don't go, anywhere good cult. Members we have more episodes
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Speaker 3: lee AND i are still going to be bringing on insane.
Speaker 3: Guests they're going to be talking about a wide bevy of.
Speaker 3: Topics we are going to be doing research into so
Speaker 3: many different. Things we're still dropping five episodes a. Week if,
Speaker 3: anything we are putting our foot even firm more firmly
Speaker 3: on the gas pedal and giving this thing some real
Speaker 3: juice behind.
Speaker 4: It we're gonna take it to the next.
Speaker 3: Level so don't go. Anywhere please don't think. That oh,
Speaker 3: WELL i Guess i'm done listening. Now, no, no, no
Speaker 3: that is not the vibe. Here if, anything you need
Speaker 3: to start sharing us now more than ever to get
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Speaker 2: In and we will be getting even crazier guests on this,
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Speaker 2: amazing opinions from amazing people and it's just going to
Speaker 2: literally it's rocket booster, now that's what it. Is and
Speaker 2: So i'll be working behind the. Scenes don't. Worry i'm
Speaker 2: still gonna be. Here Just i'll be in the, ether
Speaker 2: in your in your hearts and. Souls, YES i am
Speaker 2: nothing more than a figment of your imagination.
Speaker 4: Projection let's say you're gonna be in the.
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Speaker 2: Anything, yes oh, yes, Yeah and LIKE i, said, DUDE i,
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Speaker 2: that we, say maybe you don't even like the topics
Speaker 2: or the, conversations BUT i can guarantee you we will
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Speaker 2: stay you, know deeply into the, occult deep into the.
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Speaker 2: life progressions going on over, there and we try and
Speaker 2: just keep it weird all the. Time so you, Know
Speaker 2: i'm not going. Anywhere so, yeah, dude it's A i'm
Speaker 2: really looking forward to. This, so LIKE i, said thank
Speaker 2: you to the good cult members for having me and
Speaker 2: listening to me over here at The cult Of. Conspiracy
Speaker 2: really appreciate. It but the, time the game's not over all,
Speaker 2: right it is just continuing off another, branch and that
Speaker 2: branch is going to grow into a damn tree. Itself so,
Speaker 2: yeah good good. Times but with that being, said this
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