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Speaker 1: All right, bigfost Society, You've got the privilege of talking
Speaker 1: to Spencer Jamison today. He is an individual from the
Speaker 1: Woodwalkers YouTube channel that's Woodwalkers with a Z At the end,
Speaker 1: I'll have the link in the show notes, but it's
Speaker 1: one of the shows I like to listen to most
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoons is when they are on, and they have
Speaker 1: some great conversations I really enjoy. But Spencer, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being on the show today.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me on Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, I would love to start. You know
Speaker 1: where a lot of these interviews will start is Spencer,
Speaker 1: what got you into the whole wild bigfoot game to
Speaker 1: begin with?
Speaker 2: Actually, it's kind of It's not like other people. Other people,
Speaker 2: you know, they they had an encounter, they had some
Speaker 2: kind of experience that was bigfoot related and it made
Speaker 2: them start looking into it. And mine was nothing like that.
Speaker 2: I I took and helped talk well a lot of things,
Speaker 2: but the big thing was a wilderness survival. So so
Speaker 2: I was often out in the woods with groups of
Speaker 2: people doing wilderness survival and that was years and years
Speaker 2: and years of my life, along with you know the
Speaker 2: average stuff, hunting, fishing, camping, everything. Well, let me see,
Speaker 2: my oldest day is eleven now, and we homeschooled our kids,
Speaker 2: so I guess it was ten years ago something like that.
Speaker 2: Whenever they were just teeny tiny, they had YouTube on
Speaker 2: and we paused YouTube or YouTube was still playing in
Speaker 2: the background, and I was trying to start like a
Speaker 2: preschool thing for the girls, and whenever they got done.
Speaker 2: I actually can't remember exactly how it happened. If it
Speaker 2: was right as we were starting or whenever they were
Speaker 2: done with the little preschool lesson thing, I looked up
Speaker 2: and there just happened to be a NK. Davis video playing,
Speaker 2: and it was doing the breakdown of like the Patterson
Speaker 2: Gimlin film, and it was showing some of the stuff
Speaker 2: like the hematoba in the leg and like the scapular
Speaker 2: movement and everything, and I just remember looking at it, like,
Speaker 2: you know that that looks real to me. And I'd
Speaker 2: never been closed minded the Bigfoot that I had never been.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just didn't really consider bigfoot. And
Speaker 2: I mean, I was in the woods all the time,
Speaker 2: and like you hear a lot of people say, and
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. It kind of surprised me
Speaker 2: whenever I was really and I had seen that video
Speaker 2: when I was a little kid, but not like the
Speaker 2: in depth analysis of it that mister Davis was on.
Speaker 2: And then a couple of days go by and another
Speaker 2: video comes on and it was a big Foot Outlaws video,
Speaker 2: and I guess it was just that thing where YouTube
Speaker 2: plays videos that are similar to other stuff that you
Speaker 2: watched before. And I saw a few minutes of that,
Speaker 2: and then later you know, there was more suggested on
Speaker 2: there and I started watching them and then it kind
Speaker 2: of just got in my head that man, if these
Speaker 2: thing's real, there should be something out there that I
Speaker 2: should be able to find. I mean, I've you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not a good tracker, but I've got you know,
Speaker 2: tracker training and all kinds of stuff like that. And
Speaker 2: I went out in the woods and next thing I know,
Speaker 2: I'm finding possible uh stick manipulation and structures and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. And a little while later found what I
Speaker 2: thought was my first track, and you know, then I'm
Speaker 2: really like, I just don't know what is going on.
Speaker 2: So I started reaching out to people on YouTube and
Speaker 2: every Facebook and everything off of YouTube shows that I
Speaker 2: was watching, and eventually I got in contact with a
Speaker 2: couple of people and I got invited to an outing
Speaker 2: and it was a really private thing. It was a
Speaker 2: Bigfoot outlaws outing and I guess I was the only
Speaker 2: outside person there and they did calls, I heard replies,
Speaker 2: trees got pushed over, all kinds of crazy stuff, and uh,
Speaker 2: I mean that was my first time actually really experiencing
Speaker 2: the stuff firsthand. And I just whenever I left from
Speaker 2: that alley, I knew, I mean I didn't see one,
Speaker 2: but we had a lot of stuff happened, especially at
Speaker 2: that graveyard. Stuff got thrown at us branches, broke growls
Speaker 2: or distant distant screams and everything. And I left that
Speaker 2: and I just I knew. I was convinced that they
Speaker 2: existed and been doing it ever since.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is incredible. So you it sounds like you
Speaker 1: were big footing in a graveyard somewhere.
Speaker 2: Well, we were in Daniel Boone Nashville forest and I
Speaker 2: got you know, whenever I got invited to this, and uh,
Speaker 2: I was super excited because the big Foot Outlaws is
Speaker 2: kind of like I guess everybody has to kind of
Speaker 2: pick their their tour guide whenever you get into this stuff.
Speaker 2: And at that point, that was like the show that
Speaker 2: I watched quite heavily. Uh, and I'd seen every single
Speaker 2: one of the episodes that were available on YouTube, and uh,
Speaker 2: I was reaching out to members of that of of
Speaker 2: the big Foot Outlaws, and uh, when I got invited,
Speaker 2: you know, it's about a it's about a six hour
Speaker 2: ride from my place to where the meeting was, and
Speaker 2: I was so gung ho to go. And then as
Speaker 2: I'm getting closer and closer, especially within an hour or so,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, in my head, I'm like, are
Speaker 2: you insane? Because I had never met I never met
Speaker 2: anybody in the bigfoot world. I don't I don't come
Speaker 2: from the bigfoot world. I come from a very regular,
Speaker 2: just hunting, fishing, camping kind of world. And as I'm
Speaker 2: getting closer and closer, I'm like, here, I am going
Speaker 2: to you know, Kentucky to go look for Bigfoot with
Speaker 2: a bunch of people that I just met online and
Speaker 2: I've never met him in person. I don't know anything
Speaker 2: about him. And I tell you what though, that that
Speaker 2: right there was such a lucky chance of fate for me.
Speaker 2: I met some of the greatest people in the world
Speaker 2: that I'm still friends with, and in the bigfoot world
Speaker 2: in general, I've met people in the past whatever it's
Speaker 2: been seven eight years that I just consider family at
Speaker 2: this point. And I mean, so much stuff happened at
Speaker 2: that one particular, my very first unitual experience with all
Speaker 2: this stuff. So much stuff happened, and it was it
Speaker 2: was no doubt in my mind conclusive what it was
Speaker 2: and what was doing it. But yeah, that's how it
Speaker 2: kicked off in them right there at the end. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of graveyards, old old graveyards that are
Speaker 2: they're not really well manicured or taken care of, but
Speaker 2: they have signs. And I'm sure for a lot of
Speaker 2: people that have been to Daniel Boon, especially the lower
Speaker 2: end of Daniel Bone in the southern point of it,
Speaker 2: they know exactly what I'm talking about. But there are
Speaker 2: many graveyards up there. And to be honest, when they
Speaker 2: took me up in that graveyard, the way that it
Speaker 2: actually went was that night. That was the second night
Speaker 2: that I was there. I was with most of the
Speaker 2: people that were camping there, but not all of them
Speaker 2: as far as the meet and Greek kind of thing went.
Speaker 2: And they went out and did some calls. That was
Speaker 2: my first time experiencing that. I didn't know anything about
Speaker 2: the calls or how they did them, or how it
Speaker 2: would work. They went out and did some calls and
Speaker 2: they ended up getting a replied vocal on the second
Speaker 2: call I think it was, and it was it was
Speaker 2: pretty far off. And I'm not I'm not an expert
Speaker 2: on all types of wildlife, but you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: I'm from North Carolina and lived in Virginia for a
Speaker 2: long time now, But I mean I'm fairly familiar with
Speaker 2: animal sounds, and whenever I heard it, it was pretty
Speaker 2: plain to me that you know, that was a booker.
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't. It wasn't a coyote that I
Speaker 2: will say. And we can talk about this later, but
Speaker 2: there is no doubt whenever you hear it in person,
Speaker 2: and audio doesn't do it justice. Audio doesn't capture it,
Speaker 2: it doesn't translate it the right way. You can look
Speaker 2: at it on a spectrograph and you can kind of
Speaker 2: a feel for it. But when you hear vocalizations in person,
Speaker 2: they're impressive. And I mean, if you've got any woodsiness
Speaker 2: to you add on your huge to animals, you can
Speaker 2: very easily make a kind of a quick decision stay.
Speaker 2: I I don't think that was you know, a regular
Speaker 2: animal known uh you know species rightnant in that area,
Speaker 2: an indigenous species. But they went out and they did calls.
Speaker 2: We got a reply. It was far away. It was
Speaker 2: impressive to me because I never heard it before. I
Speaker 2: think we stopped at one more spot after that they
Speaker 2: did calls. I don't remember getting a reply there, and.
Speaker 3: Then they said, uh, all right, we're gonna stop at
Speaker 3: this one graveyard and I'm riding in the car with
Speaker 3: like four of them, and we've got several vehicles.
Speaker 2: There's you know, handful of a scolling And as soon
Speaker 2: as they said that, I just in my head, I
Speaker 2: was like, man, they are trying to haze me or
Speaker 2: initiate me, or they think I'm gonna be creeped out
Speaker 2: because We're going to a cemetery. And I'd heard other
Speaker 2: people say on some of these YouTube shows about like boogers.
Speaker 2: I refer to Bigfoot as boogers, y'all, just so everybody knows.
Speaker 2: But I've heard other people say bookers like cemeteries everything.
Speaker 2: But in my head, I was like that, you know,
Speaker 2: there's no way anything's gonna happen just because it's cemetery.
Speaker 2: And uh, we parked at the bottom of the hill.
Speaker 2: We walk up this road to the cemetery and not long,
Speaker 2: maybe a couple hundred yards, and we get up there
Speaker 2: and everybody gets quiet, and they've got cameras going and
Speaker 2: recorders going, night vision thermals, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: And one of the one of the guys there who
Speaker 2: I'm friends with now I didn't know, and then but
Speaker 2: he did a call and a couple minutes later. I
Speaker 2: think it started with a distant yell, but I can't
Speaker 2: swear to that. I'd have to go back and listen
Speaker 2: to the audio to remember exact detail. But he did
Speaker 2: a call, and then I think there was a distant,
Speaker 2: possible vocal. And then this is the freaking part. This
Speaker 2: is the part here that I knew something was going on,
Speaker 2: and I knew it wasn't them. It was almost like
Speaker 2: a switch got hit, and it's like you could feel
Speaker 2: static electricity in there. You could feel a presence. Things
Speaker 2: got quiet, like even the bugs they didn't they didn't
Speaker 2: go dead completely quiet, but every thing it was like
Speaker 2: a cloud came over that whole spot. I mean, you
Speaker 2: could tangibly feel it. It was weird. Something that thrown.
Speaker 2: It hit the ground. I think it was probably a branch,
Speaker 2: but we were standing there in darkness. I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody really saw it. But it hit the gravel, the
Speaker 2: gravel road that we had walked up, and we all
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, it turned and looked. I jumped
Speaker 2: at that because just the feeling and everything so much
Speaker 2: was going on, you know it, It made me jump.
Speaker 2: And then something got thrown from the other side and
Speaker 2: I've got people like Debbie Jones going, did you hear that?
Speaker 2: Did you see it? Did you see where it landed?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I don't know what's going on
Speaker 2: because I expected this whole thing to be a joke
Speaker 2: and it kind of caught me off guard. And then
Speaker 2: a rather large branch gat broke or a small tree
Speaker 2: gap push now, and then there was another growl or
Speaker 2: scream that was get team closer. It's possible that the
Speaker 2: third thing got thrown. I cannot quite remember, uh, but
Speaker 2: after about five minutes that you know, maybe maybe this
Speaker 2: whole thing took five minutes to happen. I'm standing there
Speaker 2: just like just like I don't know. I wasn't freaking out,
Speaker 2: but I was just kind of in awe and and
Speaker 2: waiting to see if anything else was going to happen.
Speaker 2: And when it ended, whatever was there, that presence, that
Speaker 2: stag electricity, that that cloud, that feeling. It's it's very
Speaker 2: hard to describe, but it's a very certain thing you
Speaker 2: and one thousand percent tell something is happening. When it left,
Speaker 2: it's like it hit a switch and everything went back
Speaker 2: to normal. You could feel it leave. And that was
Speaker 2: the second night and then and then we did have
Speaker 2: some stuff happened on the third day in the third ninth,
Speaker 2: but that was the second night, and after that I
Speaker 2: was I was one on it because whatever I had
Speaker 2: just felt, I'd never experienced that before, and I mean
Speaker 2: I knew there was something to it.
Speaker 1: So that was it sounds like that was the experience.
Speaker 1: Then that pretty much pushed you. Uh, there is no
Speaker 1: coming back to how Spencer was before that. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the turning point. And I totally get that
Speaker 1: because that was that was Oregon in this summer.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 1: It after coming back from that, I was not the
Speaker 1: same person. It's very hard to explain.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: You you get changed somehow, and uh, just it's all different.
Speaker 1: Just the way that you look at everything regarding this
Speaker 1: subject is totally different. Hm hmm, it's weird. It's weird. Spencer,
Speaker 1: I'm still working through it big for society. Who will
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages? After that, did you
Speaker 1: did you regularly go out and start researching for Bigfoot
Speaker 1: after that experience.
Speaker 2: Or yes, I had been before. Now the way that
Speaker 2: the way that I do it, in the way that
Speaker 2: a lot of my friends and I do it as
Speaker 2: we have areas where we're at. I'm in southwestern Virginia.
Speaker 2: I have managed to find a handful of spots around
Speaker 2: me that have activity, but it's it's it's not activity
Speaker 2: like what I find in LBL Laying between the Lakes,
Speaker 2: or North Georgia or Alabama. I've been concentrating a lot
Speaker 2: on Alabama for the past couple of years. But we
Speaker 2: all have areas around us that we go out and
Speaker 2: that we actively monitor. You know, a lot of us
Speaker 2: we'll go privately camping every couple of months, you know,
Speaker 2: and look for sign everything like that. I've got spots
Speaker 2: that I go to and I'm a big person that
Speaker 2: always checks for like tracks and possible stick structure and manipulation.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I'll do gifting and go check and see
Speaker 2: if anything is changed with that. At I'm also in
Speaker 2: those areas because I'm dropping off and picking up recorders
Speaker 2: fairly often. But a lot of us do stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But then we also get together several times a year
Speaker 2: to go to certain places. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: the meet and greets that we do. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: getting together privately as just a handful of us and
Speaker 2: actually going there and camping and going further in the
Speaker 2: woods and looking for stuff like that. You know. But yeah,
Speaker 2: after that happened, I was hooked and started going out
Speaker 2: with some of the friends I had made quite regularly
Speaker 2: after that.
Speaker 1: So you I mean Southwest Virginia over to Alabama. That's
Speaker 1: quite a trip. That's got to be more than a
Speaker 1: few hours.
Speaker 2: It's about it's about eight and a half for where
Speaker 2: I normally go, but LBL is almost ten for me,
Speaker 2: and I go to LBL pretty much once a year.
Speaker 2: I've been there more than once a year, but almost
Speaker 2: once a year I go to l be able to
Speaker 2: make a tulgrimage there. There's a lot of driving.
Speaker 1: Involved, absolutely, and that's just one way I mean that.
Speaker 1: That's pretty wild. So you are going to some pretty
Speaker 1: intense places. Are there any things that come to mind
Speaker 1: that you could share about, Like you're in this one
Speaker 1: place and just it got pretty pretty intense when you're
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: Well, let me go back and touch on what happened
Speaker 2: at the end of Daniel Big the first time I
Speaker 2: met everybody on Night three. On Night three, at this
Speaker 2: point you could do you could do a three or
Speaker 2: four hour show and you could have multiple people on
Speaker 2: here talking about their experiences that were that were there
Speaker 2: at the same time that I was there. Uh. But
Speaker 2: but during that trip down there, on night one, uh,
Speaker 2: there were at least one or two of fairly large
Speaker 2: trees pushed over right outside the campground that we were
Speaker 2: staying at. We were just primitive camping, but small ow
Speaker 2: campground and creek running through it, and there were trees
Speaker 2: pushing down. And day two, the night of the campground
Speaker 2: of the graveyard thing. But day two, we had found
Speaker 2: a rock in the middle of the pathway that we
Speaker 2: had walked down that I don't think it was there
Speaker 2: before and possibly got a rock thrown at us. And
Speaker 2: the other group that we were out there hiking with
Speaker 2: they had a giant clod of mud come flying through
Speaker 2: the air and it hit a tree right above them
Speaker 2: and busted up, and they thought it was us messing
Speaker 2: with them, and we thought the rock that was thrown
Speaker 2: at us could have possibly been them. So I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, there was stuff going on. There were several
Speaker 2: several trees broken, there were vocalizations heard, all that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. I don't remember anybody finding track. I think
Speaker 2: it's possible that one or two people caught glimpses of
Speaker 2: eye shine or maybe even saw one in a ditch
Speaker 2: off the side of the road, like as we were
Speaker 2: driving by. But on nineteen three, Uh, I had to
Speaker 2: leave the next morning, and I got to tell you
Speaker 2: so much. It happened in such a small timeframe. Uh,
Speaker 2: I was wired. I was I was nervous. I knew
Speaker 2: it was real, and I, you know, I had just
Speaker 2: experienced the graveyard thing. I knew it was real, and
Speaker 2: I knew there was something out there. And Larry Porch
Speaker 2: is a good friend of mine. He and Debbie Jones.
Speaker 2: They wanted to take me up on a ridge away
Speaker 2: from camp and let's just him at camp or just
Speaker 2: you know, spend the night on the ground on this
Speaker 2: ridge on the hillside in the woods. And uh, there's
Speaker 2: some there are some funny recordings of this. Uh. We
Speaker 2: did a pretty good job documenting all those. We had
Speaker 2: a lot of audio from it. But there's a recording
Speaker 2: of this. Whenever we get up there, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's probably midnight, one in the morning something like, they're
Speaker 2: probably closer to midnight. And a tree gets pushed over
Speaker 2: again and Larry starts laughing, and I'm like, you're insane,
Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, ain't it great? And Debbie port
Speaker 2: she doesn't care. She's fearless, Sisters of the Moon, Debbie
Speaker 2: Porch's Sisters of the Moon. But she goes to sleep,
Speaker 2: and Larry and I are sitting up talking, and I
Speaker 2: gotta be honest with you. I didn't want to go
Speaker 2: to sleep. I was a little concerned. I was a
Speaker 2: little concerned, a little nervous. I'm new to it, and
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not going to sleep if I think there's
Speaker 2: a damned monster right outside, you know. And we're just
Speaker 2: sitting there around the fire, and several times weird stuff
Speaker 2: they could have been, like rocks being pron But at
Speaker 2: the same time, I'm going, couldn't that be just like
Speaker 2: white walnuts or something. Larry's you know, he's talking to me,
Speaker 2: and he's going, yeah, I couldn't be. And like I said,
Speaker 2: the tree get I pushed out. And then right before
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was right before sunrise, but
Speaker 2: about five in the morning, a car goes by on
Speaker 2: the road and we can see its headlights because we're
Speaker 2: at an elevated position, we can see it in It
Speaker 2: goes by about three hundred yards way maybe and right
Speaker 2: as it's going by the curve right by us, as
Speaker 2: it gets close to us, a knock goes off from
Speaker 2: right behind us. I mean probably forty fifty yards a win.
Speaker 2: It's loud. I jumped. It did scare me, and I
Speaker 2: said a few choice words and I told that was
Speaker 2: not and he's like yeah. I was like, they are here,
Speaker 2: and he's like yeah, they've probably been here all night,
Speaker 2: just sitting here with us, watching us, and it just
Speaker 2: it left a distinct impression on me. So in the
Speaker 2: years to come in the next few years following that,
Speaker 2: for other people that I met there, I stayed in
Speaker 2: close contact with. We went to lbo a lot, but
Speaker 2: we also continued to go back to Daniel Boom. But
Speaker 2: when we went back, we would go further in the
Speaker 2: woods and not to a campground just in the middle
Speaker 2: of the woods. And they had a spot that they
Speaker 2: had found back there and I was lucky enough to
Speaker 2: get invited to that. And you asked about some of
Speaker 2: the stuff that was scary, Well in Daniel Boom, this
Speaker 2: was one of the scarier things that happened to me.
Speaker 2: And it's probably not going to sound that thrilling to
Speaker 2: everybody else. I mean, I wish I could tell everybody
Speaker 2: a great, great class a encounter, but that's not what
Speaker 2: this is. We're back there and I'm with very real
Speaker 2: people in the big Foot wark that know their stuff.
Speaker 2: They've been doing this a long time. They've got a
Speaker 2: lot of experience. I don't want to do a whole
Speaker 2: lot of name dropping, but they're very recognizable, known people
Speaker 2: in the big Foot world. And the very first time,
Speaker 2: now I take it back, it was the second time
Speaker 2: we were out there at this place. When we got there,
Speaker 2: there was a tree. And when I say a tree,
Speaker 2: I mean it was about six inch diameter, probably something
Speaker 2: like a poplar, but most of the auxiliary branches had
Speaker 2: been ripped off of it. It was about thirty foot long,
Speaker 2: maybe thirty five foot long, and it was placed horizontally
Speaker 2: above the little stone fire pit area that we had established,
Speaker 2: that they had established and then I'd been there before,
Speaker 2: but the fire pit, the firing there was a tree
Speaker 2: placed horizontally in two other trees, and it was above
Speaker 2: this fire And whenever we got in there, you know
Speaker 2: where we parked that went in there and we saw
Speaker 2: this thing. We're all looking at it like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know anybody that would just go
Speaker 2: out in the middle of the woods and strip a
Speaker 2: tree down and place it, you know, suspended in two
Speaker 2: other trees. There were somebody's fir ring just in the
Speaker 2: middle of the woods. So that was the first thing
Speaker 2: that we saw when we got in camps that time,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at it, I'm like, wow, you know
Speaker 2: that's that's definitely something. I mean, they probably know we're here. Well,
Speaker 2: the last night that we were there on that trip,
Speaker 2: we had done a couple of calls and I don't
Speaker 2: think we got any huge responses. One of my friends
Speaker 2: had told me about using an EMP or an RF
Speaker 2: meter rather RF meter. Chris ryan Hart told me about it,
Speaker 2: and so I had an RF meter. It was my
Speaker 2: first time using it, and whenever we did a we
Speaker 2: did a call. Ose just one minute later, the RF
Speaker 2: meter spiked and I mean alarm went off because the
Speaker 2: the I think it was set on radio waves is
Speaker 2: what went off. But uh, it went off to such
Speaker 2: a high degree. It spiked and I'm sitting there holding it,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it. I'm like, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: you know, maybe something's right here near us. It wasn't
Speaker 2: very much later, we went to bed and I had
Speaker 2: fashioned a part tent tent made out of a tarp,
Speaker 2: and I'm inside that tarp and I got the recorder
Speaker 2: sitting right at the fold where the door is. The
Speaker 2: audio recorder is is right there, about one foot away
Speaker 2: from my head. Because it started raining a little bit
Speaker 2: and I wanted to get super soaked. But something woke
Speaker 2: me up. At about two thirty three AM. Something woke
Speaker 2: me up. I wasn't sure what it was. And as
Speaker 2: I'm laying there trying to go back to sleep, I
Speaker 2: hear something hit the tarp. It's like a pebble, like
Speaker 2: a rock. And I'm laying there and I'm listening. I
Speaker 2: don't hear anything that I hear crunch, crunch, like something
Speaker 2: took a step. Now I'm awake and I'm paying attention.
Speaker 2: And another couple of minutes go by and something else
Speaker 2: hits the tark, kind of like a little pebble. And
Speaker 2: then a couple months later, cruch crunch. Now I've got
Speaker 2: five or six people that are sleeping, and they're not
Speaker 2: very far away from me, but but they're out there
Speaker 2: and I'm in this tart and I'm on the edge,
Speaker 2: you know, right, up against the woods and in my mind,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm listening now, I'm like, this thing is coming close.
Speaker 2: Something's out there, and I'm trying to be logical. I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's that somebody. You know, somebody woke up and they're
Speaker 2: out there and they're using the bathroom or you know,
Speaker 2: shifting around, walking through camp or whatever. But it's the
Speaker 2: same routine. It keeps happening. It's it's a pebble hits
Speaker 2: my tart, and then a couple of steps, and eventually
Speaker 2: this thing is getting close. I'm wide awake and I'm
Speaker 2: I'm getting nervous. I'm getting scared because in my head,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a bogger and it's right here on me,
Speaker 2: and I'm just expecting something to reach under the dark
Speaker 2: and grabbed me and snatched me and pulled me out
Speaker 2: of that. Now, that didn't happen. But on what did
Speaker 2: happen was it got close. There was several minutes where
Speaker 2: I didn't hear any noise, and I'm waiting for it
Speaker 2: to get closer again.
Speaker 1: Big so a societyho will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: And then something it either either a branch hit my
Speaker 2: tarp or another rock or it slapped the side of
Speaker 2: my tarp right by my feet. And man, let me
Speaker 2: tell you, I couldn't think whether or not I should
Speaker 2: just like flee. I didn't think at all, but I
Speaker 2: kind of yelled and sat up and almost busted out
Speaker 2: of the tart. But I didn't because I didn't want
Speaker 2: to go outside, because I thought there was something outside.
Speaker 2: I never heard anything leave. Of course, I made a
Speaker 2: lot of ruckus and a lot of noise whenever I
Speaker 2: did that. I never heard anything leave or runaway. But
Speaker 2: after ten fifteen minutes later, you know, I'm still sitting
Speaker 2: there and I'm scared now. And there was you know,
Speaker 2: there was nothing there. Nothing happened. It's it's like these
Speaker 2: things really really know how to mess with you and
Speaker 2: intimidate you. And who's I mean. I never got to
Speaker 2: look at it, so I can't even one hundred percent
Speaker 2: say that that was a booger. I got the audio
Speaker 2: from it. In the audio, you can hear the pebbles
Speaker 2: hit in the tent. You can you can hear the
Speaker 2: steps if you really enhance the volume. But it shook
Speaker 2: me up, you know, because I know what happened, and
Speaker 2: what happened was something that was coming closer and then
Speaker 2: it smack the dart and it bothered me and scared me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have slept the rest
Speaker 1: of that night. That's that's pretty intense.
Speaker 2: Spent the rest of the nights. Yeah, I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't sleep the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: But I think what is even more crazy is the
Speaker 1: r F meter being affected. So can you explain that
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of what's the thinking of the
Speaker 1: the connection between r F meter and what is maybe
Speaker 1: happening in the background, and why would so why would
Speaker 1: you even have one to begin with? There?
Speaker 2: It's this gets into areas and this is a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that we that we uh we talked about
Speaker 2: on my show, and a lot of the people that
Speaker 2: I'm friends with that have shows and everything, we kind
Speaker 2: of do deep doys going. I don't want to say
Speaker 2: wood and negative when I don't want to send anybody
Speaker 2: by the WU thing. And I also don't want people
Speaker 2: to think that we are strictly flesh and blood. I
Speaker 2: think I would phrase it more long lines of uh,
Speaker 2: we're open to anything. We're big proponents of there are
Speaker 2: no experts in this field, and you know everything. You
Speaker 2: have to treat this subject open mind. On the trip,
Speaker 2: I was just talking about when the RF meter spiked
Speaker 2: during the day. We had gone out and gone for
Speaker 2: a day hike, and just like always, everybody make sure
Speaker 2: you got you know, we're stopping and putting in fresh
Speaker 2: batteries in the action cameras, in the recorders, in the
Speaker 2: you know, video recorders, the thermals, all the stuff, right.
Speaker 2: And that was my first time that exact same event
Speaker 2: right there. That was my first time having battery drainage.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't just me, it was three or four
Speaker 2: of us had battery dreams and weird anomalies like that.
Speaker 2: But you get to a point when you do at
Speaker 2: least the areas that we've been going and the stuff
Speaker 2: that we've experienced. I guess I won't speak for everybody else.
Speaker 2: I'll just speak for myself, But it gets to a
Speaker 2: point where you stop thinking that these things are behaving
Speaker 2: like a typical, just regular biological, flesh and blood creature.
Speaker 2: It's there's something else going on. So to your question
Speaker 2: with theF meter, Chris Ryan hard in bed told by
Speaker 2: somebody else to look into the RF meter. At least
Speaker 2: I think that's how it goes. If not, Chris, don't
Speaker 2: kill me, but he suggested that I try. Now, bear
Speaker 2: in mind the piece of equipment was new to me.
Speaker 2: I had only gotten in a couple weeks. Four went
Speaker 2: on this trip. Didn't have much time to really play
Speaker 2: with it and everything. But round the middle of the woods.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the basics of the thing, and
Speaker 2: I guess the line of thought on it is much
Speaker 2: like infrasound. Is it possible that these things are creating
Speaker 2: either electromagnetic fields? Are they giving off microwaves? Are they
Speaker 2: messing with r F fields? We're not sure, but several
Speaker 2: people have cleaned to have had some impressive results with
Speaker 2: the RF meters. So we had it out there. Now.
Speaker 2: It just so happened that it went off that it
Speaker 2: spiked that night. A lot of people talk about, hey,
Speaker 2: it'll spike whenever they get really close to you and
Speaker 2: they're thrown rocks at you and growl, and then it'll
Speaker 2: go off. We didn't have any in that. It just
Speaker 2: went off on our alarm. And then later on that
Speaker 2: night something approached my part. Now, I mean, having said
Speaker 2: that I've had the RF meter for years, I use
Speaker 2: it on occasion. I've not had a whole whole lot
Speaker 2: of luck with it. But you know, maybe the times
Speaker 2: that I did use it, they just they weren't there,
Speaker 2: or maybe they're not emitting or giving off whatever is
Speaker 2: required to set the r F meter off. I don't
Speaker 2: really know that we like trying different things. There's some
Speaker 2: stuff that I can't really talk about like that that
Speaker 2: a that a handful of us do because we're still
Speaker 2: trying it to kind of weigh and measure and it's
Speaker 2: not it's it's not mine to share with everybody. But
Speaker 2: some of the people that I hang out with are
Speaker 2: doing really really impressive and unique experiments with different things
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't typically think of, and they're going out
Speaker 2: and employing it and seeing what results they I mean,
Speaker 2: some of the stuff, as you know, from what I've
Speaker 2: been told, sounds pretty interesting, but I'm more of a
Speaker 2: meat and potatoes kind of researcher. I like the modern
Speaker 2: technology aspect of it, but I don't geek out on
Speaker 2: all the technological stuff. I do think that they're doing
Speaker 2: something I think me personally. I think that they're flesh
Speaker 2: and blood. I just think that they have a skill
Speaker 2: set and they're able to manipulate energy in a way
Speaker 2: that we don't understand. And I think I think that's
Speaker 2: directly into why you have a really hard time capturing
Speaker 2: them on game cameras. Uh, some people be able, or
Speaker 2: some people claim to be able to you know, see
Speaker 2: them with their naked eye, but can't capture them with
Speaker 2: a camera. Or some people see them with a camera
Speaker 2: on their phone, but they didn't see them them while
Speaker 2: they were there looking at them in person. You know,
Speaker 2: they didn't see them with their naked eye, but they
Speaker 2: managed to capture a video of it. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that all of that stuff out there that's put
Speaker 2: out there, especially on Facebook and YouTube, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that all of that stuff is legitimate, but safe say
Speaker 2: that probably some of it is. And I just don't
Speaker 2: think these things operate. I know they don't operate in
Speaker 2: a normal physical way like like I expect them to. Uh,
Speaker 2: they got weird stuff to them. They can do weird stuff.
Speaker 2: And I mean some of the stuff I've seen, especially
Speaker 2: in Alabama on Creepy Mountain, some of the stuff I've
Speaker 2: seen down there that'll make you change your line of
Speaker 2: thought on some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. I'm starting to learn their stuff. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, but I want to call out something
Speaker 1: real quick. Just so about five five minutes ago, Well,
Speaker 1: first I want to ask you don't have any type
Speaker 1: of voice modulator on your phone? Right, nothing weird like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it was really weird. You probably didn't hear it,
Speaker 1: but about five minutes ago, when you were talking about
Speaker 1: weird stuff happening with Tech, ye, your voice did something
Speaker 1: weird I've never heard on the phone before where.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: Kind of like robot voice. It is just it got
Speaker 1: really weird. So I mean, stuff like that kind of happens.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know Tech gets weird. The RF meter thing.
Speaker 1: I might actually try that myself. It's an interesting line
Speaker 1: of thought. And who knows what they might have associated
Speaker 1: with him, And I don't know if that would even
Speaker 1: You know, there's been bigfooters that have had weird health
Speaker 1: things happen, and maybe that's because of exposure, you know,
Speaker 1: and it really makes you think, Right, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know that that is one hundred percent something that we
Speaker 2: have talked about and that we pay attention to. Uh,
Speaker 2: there's only one time that I can think of where
Speaker 2: I ever might have been zapped with infrasound. But it's
Speaker 2: there is no doubt with the people that I hang
Speaker 2: out with on a regular basis, and I mean I
Speaker 2: trust them implicitly there. These are good people and their
Speaker 2: experienced people and their they're big name people, and some
Speaker 2: of the stuff that they've told me is you know completely,
Speaker 2: it's just it's really impressive, and I believe them, and
Speaker 2: I think that along with that infrasound, I mean you
Speaker 2: have to consider that if they are using infrasound. Infrasound
Speaker 2: is measurable. It just takes quite sophisticated equipment to measure it.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's not like we're running around the
Speaker 2: woods with million dollar government text stuff to be able
Speaker 2: to measure this kind of thing. So the whole infrasound thing,
Speaker 2: you know, we charted up as a possibility, but it's
Speaker 2: a high probability that they are using something like infrasound
Speaker 2: and infrasound itself. If you look at the physical disruptions
Speaker 2: of what infrasound does, I mean, it'll you know, it'll
Speaker 2: joggle your organs and your brain and everything. It's easy
Speaker 2: to assume that it could cause health issues if you
Speaker 2: get zapped enough times, if they're doing infrasound, and I
Speaker 2: think the RF meter plays into that because we're not
Speaker 2: quite sure how to you know, we're looking for some
Speaker 2: piece of technology that will give us an edge to
Speaker 2: knowing that they're there. And it's hard because these things
Speaker 2: are really good at getting close to you without you
Speaker 2: knowing that they're there.
Speaker 1: Spencer, that's so smart. I've never thought of that, And
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. What we need is we need the
Speaker 1: one device, the silver bullet, that tells us one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: no doubt that yes, they are in that area. That's
Speaker 1: what That's what you need, right.
Speaker 2: You know, Jeremiah. Two years ago, three years ago, I
Speaker 2: would have been like yes, and that was the time
Speaker 2: whenever all this stuff was happening with mine, with my
Speaker 2: stuff in the big foot world. But uh, I got
Speaker 2: to admit, man, it's just listening to so many people,
Speaker 2: especially people that I that I really do trust and believe,
Speaker 2: listening to so many of them nowadays make connections with
Speaker 2: stuff like Nefhlahem or Nefhleaham, however you want to say it,
Speaker 2: but stuff like that. It's just I've gotten to a
Speaker 2: point where I'm honestly thinking, like I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe there is no maybe we don't have have any
Speaker 2: leg up and there's no way that we would ever
Speaker 2: know anything unless they want us to know it. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, I know that gets out there
Speaker 2: into the kind of hooky range where you're it sounds
Speaker 2: like you're trying to come up with excuses to rationalize
Speaker 2: why you're not getting the hardcore evidence. But I mean
Speaker 2: we've collected hardcore evidence. I mean, we've collected whole track
Speaker 2: with Whenever I say we, I guess I wasn't there
Speaker 2: on the I was not there on the big outing
Speaker 2: where they collected the major trackway at LBL. But I
Speaker 2: found trackways at LBL, and we've we've found stuff in Georgia.
Speaker 2: We found stuff all over the place. We just don't
Speaker 2: typically publish everything that we find. Just like I do
Speaker 2: all kinds of little experiments in my area, and I
Speaker 2: end up talking to a lot of people that give
Speaker 2: me ideas. It's not like I'm super smart and coming
Speaker 2: up with the stuff on myself. A lot of times
Speaker 2: I got help from everybody else, and I'm trying different
Speaker 2: things out on my own and I find really impressive evidence.
Speaker 2: But you know, that's physical evidence. And you can only
Speaker 2: find a track so many times and still be impressed
Speaker 2: with it, or you can only find stick structure so
Speaker 2: many times before you want to see something else. And
Speaker 2: this goes into my major major argument in the Bigfoot world.
Speaker 2: On my show, and with a lot of the people
Speaker 2: that I know, we're all kind of the same. I
Speaker 2: don't really care about the shows where it's a great
Speaker 2: physical description of bigfoot. One of my friends told me
Speaker 2: one time, he's like one could be hit by a
Speaker 2: semi and be laying in the middle of the road
Speaker 2: and one hundred people stop, and you're looking at it,
Speaker 2: you're poking it with stick, you're taking pictures of it.
Speaker 2: You can see it's hair, you can see exactly what
Speaker 2: it looks like. You know, it's eight foot four inches long,
Speaker 2: and it's four and a half foot wide, and it's
Speaker 2: two foot thick, and it's got longer hair on its
Speaker 2: lower arms and on the on the on the on
Speaker 2: its head, and it's sparse on its chest. You still
Speaker 2: would not know what they are exactly, how they operate. Uh,
Speaker 2: do they speak a language? What are they saying? You know?
Speaker 2: Are they alien? Are they Nephlahem? You wouldn't know how
Speaker 2: they hunt. You wouldn't know how they do the things
Speaker 2: that they do. You wouldn't know how they travel, or
Speaker 2: how they pick the locations for where they're going to
Speaker 2: make nests, if they do make nests, or what the
Speaker 2: stick structure means. So the average shows out there are
Speaker 2: really into giving people entertainment and there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 2: that and describing exactly what these things look like.
Speaker 1: Big for a society who will be right back after
Speaker 1: these messages.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a curiosity thing. Everybody wants to hear
Speaker 2: the really detailed accounts. Whenever somebody has a has a
Speaker 2: Class AI witness account, everybody wants to hear that. I'm
Speaker 2: not faulting that, but I'm saying that a lot of
Speaker 2: us are concentrating more on how are they doing what
Speaker 2: they're doing and what are they how do they do
Speaker 2: what they do? And I'm not suggesting that we have
Speaker 2: any super duper answers that other people don't. We have
Speaker 2: some stuff, and some of the stuff, you know, we
Speaker 2: kind of keep it off the radar while we test
Speaker 2: it and check it and see what results we get.
Speaker 2: But we treat the subject very seriously, but we don't
Speaker 2: take ourselves very seriously. If that makes sense sense absolutely.
Speaker 1: I love that is It's a very cool comedy. It's
Speaker 1: not one you find a lot, but I think it's
Speaker 1: it's important. One of the main reasons Spencer, that I
Speaker 1: had you on the show tonight is I had heard
Speaker 1: about a place called Creepy Mountain down in Alabama, and
Speaker 1: I reached out to I want it might have been
Speaker 1: Roger from Squatch and Holler, and if it's not, apologies Roger,
Speaker 1: but I think I reached out to him. I was like,
Speaker 1: who do who should I talk to about Creepy Mountain?
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned your name, So this place sounds
Speaker 1: wild and it sounds like you know some some interesting
Speaker 1: things about Anything you can share about it would be
Speaker 1: really cool.
Speaker 2: I think I will say that mister Mark Green, who
Speaker 2: the great friend of mine, is Creepy Mountain. So mister
Speaker 2: Mark Green, who is a good friend of mine, he
Speaker 2: is the guy. What happened was Mark had a personal
Speaker 2: class da bigfoot sighting in Alabama. While he was hunting.
Speaker 2: He had a friend that he hunted with a lot.
Speaker 2: They somehow got in contact with a really famous he's
Speaker 2: past now, but Bill White, tal Branco and they started
Speaker 2: talking to mister White, and mister White came there and
Speaker 2: did a couple of things and said, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: you guys got boogers here, which they had already. They
Speaker 2: had already kind of figured that out because after Mark
Speaker 2: had his sighting, they started paying attention. Mark was big
Speaker 2: into coop hunting and running deer dogs and they would
Speaker 2: go up on Creepy Mountain to hunt. So anyway, they
Speaker 2: figured out that there were boogers there. They for yous
Speaker 2: years hardcore research. Creepy Mountain and other areas around Creepy
Speaker 2: Mountain became a place that was known to have big
Speaker 2: for the activity in there. Whenever I reached out to Mark, Uh,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to pick his brain and compare notes
Speaker 2: because here I had been going to North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky,
Speaker 2: and North Georgia, and I knew that Alabama was supposedly
Speaker 2: a hot zone. A lot of people think that, you know,
Speaker 2: the really hot zones are like Florida and Oregon and
Speaker 2: Washington State. I promise you Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama
Speaker 2: is absolutely loaded with bookers and not just boogers. But
Speaker 2: I believe with other strange possible supernatural things, but it's
Speaker 2: Alabama is by far the bootiest state, if that's even work,
Speaker 2: that I've ever been to. So we had the chance
Speaker 2: to go to Creepy Mountain for the very first time.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be just a handful of us.
Speaker 2: Was supposed to be about four or five of us,
Speaker 2: ended up being twelve or thirteen because the word got
Speaker 2: around and we ended up having like a little wilding there.
Speaker 2: And the very first time I was there a Creepy Mountain,
Speaker 2: we saw white lights kind of like somebody click in
Speaker 2: a very bright flashlight off and on. But there were
Speaker 2: I don't know ten twelve of them across this lake
Speaker 2: from us, and the lake was not very wide. We
Speaker 2: were camping, We were cooking out and camping right there
Speaker 2: on the edge of the lake, and there was a
Speaker 2: hillside on the other of the lake away from us,
Speaker 2: and it was probably I don't know, two hundred yards
Speaker 2: something like that, but we could see these white lights
Speaker 2: randomly flashing, I mean just for a millisecond, and they
Speaker 2: would move one will be down here and regards to
Speaker 2: be to the right or whatever. We saw that we
Speaker 2: saw shadow I don't want to say shadow figures It
Speaker 2: could have very well been boogers. It probably was, but
Speaker 2: it was shadows of something that were about eight foot tall,
Speaker 2: and they moved in between two trees that were about
Speaker 2: ten foot twelve foot apart, and they moved quick as
Speaker 2: a blink, I mean, just like fluid, just from one
Speaker 2: tree to the next. And they went back and forth
Speaker 2: a couple times. We heard the typical owls that sound
Speaker 2: like they weigh about five hundred pounds. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: we just had We went out and did dolls. Later,
Speaker 2: we got a we captured a couple on recording, a
Speaker 2: couple of decent apply vocals. They were a good distance
Speaker 2: away from us when they applied their faint but they're there.
Speaker 2: You can clearly see them on the spectrograph. But Creepy
Speaker 2: Mountain is up to his name. It's creepy. I've been
Speaker 2: there a few times now.
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing if like someone tries to search Creepy
Speaker 1: Mountain on Google Maps, you're not going to find it.
Speaker 2: That is it's that's not the name of it. It
Speaker 2: is private property. It's gated and you have to have
Speaker 2: access to go up in there. Wow. But luckily we're
Speaker 2: having a we're having a meet and greet here in October.
Speaker 2: That is not too far away from there. The place
Speaker 2: that we're having the meet and greet at also has
Speaker 2: a sordid history of bigfoot activity. And you know it's
Speaker 2: it's it's not that one specific place though, it's all
Speaker 2: of Alabama. I'm telling you. Mister Cumbo Baker, who I've
Speaker 2: been to his property and we had activity there. That's
Speaker 2: in the northern part of Alabama. My good buddy Greg
Speaker 2: House that's on the show with me all the time.
Speaker 2: He's a little bit further south than Cumbo. Then you
Speaker 2: hit Mark Green's kind of out in the middle of
Speaker 2: the state. And then mister flat Rock Flat Rock Wood Booger,
Speaker 2: he's a little bit further south than Mark Green. The
Speaker 2: whole state. I just had a guy on the show
Speaker 2: not that long ago, Jac Bryant. Heck of a good show, really,
Speaker 2: and he's in Alabama. There's a bunch of people in
Speaker 2: Alabama that will attest to the amount of activity that
Speaker 2: they have out there. And it's just that state for
Speaker 2: whatever reason. Uh just I've they're everywhere they seem to be.
Speaker 2: They seem to be everywhere in that state.
Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. I mean, I've got some really wild reports.
Speaker 1: I mean from places you know as well Bankhead and
Speaker 1: Talladey Game. Have you ever been down to Holland's hunting camp? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: is that a thing you can talk about?
Speaker 2: Well, well, you put me on the spot here, jeremah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean if you don't, if you can't, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. We can move on.
Speaker 2: But yes, yes, I've been there once. Uh, And I
Speaker 2: wanted to see it specifically for certain reasons that a
Speaker 2: lot of my friends have told me about. And I
Speaker 2: never seen it. And the last time I was at
Speaker 2: Creepy Mountain was Mark Green was kind enough to take
Speaker 2: me over there. And there's a road that runs through
Speaker 2: the hunting camp and I said, I'm gonna walk down
Speaker 2: this road real quick. And there was four of us there,
Speaker 2: four of us standing there at the trucks talking at
Speaker 2: the Hollands hunter camp and I said, I'm gonna walk
Speaker 2: down this road and they said okay. And I go
Speaker 2: about one hundred yards. There's a little hill you go
Speaker 2: up and then you go on the other side of
Speaker 2: the hill, and whenever you do, you drop down here
Speaker 2: you're out of line of sight from anybody that could
Speaker 2: see you. If they were looking down the road, and
Speaker 2: I go down there, and I probably went not very far,
Speaker 2: three hundred yards or so, maybe a little bit further,
Speaker 2: and I distinctly got the feeling that you hear everybody
Speaker 2: talk about that you feel like you're being watched, or
Speaker 2: that there's something there. And I did a very low
Speaker 2: whoop whoop, and nothing happened. I stood there for a minute.
Speaker 2: I turned around, started walking back. Guy on my phone
Speaker 2: on I recorded with my video with my phone and
Speaker 2: as I'm walking back, I heard huh off to the
Speaker 2: side of me, probably I don't know, a good far
Speaker 2: enough into the woods where I couldn't see it, and
Speaker 2: it was just a light kind of grunt hoof, whoof
Speaker 2: like that. And I paused, and on the video, I say,
Speaker 2: did you hear that? I'm who I was talking to.
Speaker 2: I was talking to myself or if anybody saw the
Speaker 2: video ever again and I walked another fifteen twenty feet
Speaker 2: and got it again and I said, there it is
Speaker 2: again in the video, and then I could you know,
Speaker 2: I come back. I come back to the trucks. I
Speaker 2: did it three times. I come back to the trucks.
Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, you are not gonna believe this. All
Speaker 2: I did was walk down this road, I mean this
Speaker 2: broad daylight in the middle of the day, but I
Speaker 2: was back far enough where no one could see, and
Speaker 2: uh yeah, and I told them about it. Whenever I
Speaker 2: got home, I pulled the video up, which my computer
Speaker 2: does not like to talk to my iPhone, but eventually
Speaker 2: I got it pulled up, and I edited the video
Speaker 2: and was really trying to hone in on the the
Speaker 2: audio part of it. And I stripped the audio and
Speaker 2: looked that on the spectrograph and you can see it,
Speaker 2: but I have to enhance the audio so much it's
Speaker 2: kind of distorted. It's not really worth showing. And even
Speaker 2: in person, it was not very loud, but it was distinct,
Speaker 2: and it was distinguishable, and it's there. It's just you
Speaker 2: really have to string to hear it. So for that reason,
Speaker 2: I didn't, you know, show show it on my show,
Speaker 2: or show it to anybody other than a couple of friends.
Speaker 2: But yeah, whenever we left there, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this place is hot. They're here. And then of course
Speaker 2: I know the other stories about that place, the story
Speaker 2: about the campers or the hunter supposedly being found you know,
Speaker 2: dead at the bottom of his hunting stamp and there's
Speaker 2: been camp sites a band in there, but that's common,
Speaker 2: that's common for Alabama. At Greg House's location, they found
Speaker 2: a band in camp sites. I mean, that's a common
Speaker 2: thing in Alabama. Alabama has loved.
Speaker 1: It that area as well. I know Roger had a
Speaker 1: really interesting thing happened there where he had he captured
Speaker 1: some audio and then a gentleman I had on the
Speaker 1: show a few years ago he was referring to the
Speaker 1: same story you were referring to. But I guess the
Speaker 1: hunter was found and he was I mean, he was
Speaker 1: kind of pulled apart a bit, I mean, not like
Speaker 1: totally like, yeah, it was pretty uh, pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: I believe that I'm not getting the details wrong in
Speaker 2: that story. Now, I don't know one thousand percent if
Speaker 2: that is completely accurate, but I know that there were
Speaker 2: I know that there were people that plane to have
Speaker 2: seen someone produce the police file for that, and I believe,
Speaker 2: I believe that the guy had his neck broken to
Speaker 2: the point where his head was twisted backwards and at
Speaker 2: least one of his arms was tore off. I believe
Speaker 2: that's the that's the account of that. I can't swear
Speaker 2: to the validity of it. But I'm pretty sure that's
Speaker 2: the story about it.
Speaker 1: Have you run into I mean, I know you've been
Speaker 1: in all these different states and done a ton of
Speaker 1: research over the years. A weird thing that I find
Speaker 1: is that there's these reports of different animals with like
Speaker 1: their necks broken that are sometimes do you get that too?
Speaker 2: Not nearly, not nearly as much, at least not reports
Speaker 2: in my area. Now. I do hear through the rumor
Speaker 2: mill and through people that don't want to come out
Speaker 2: and talk publicly about it. I do hear a lot
Speaker 2: of reports of animals with leggs being snapped and broken cleanly,
Speaker 2: especially deering coyote rear legs being broken or torn off.
Speaker 2: That's a fairly common.
Speaker 1: Thing, big for society. Who will be right back after
Speaker 1: these messages.
Speaker 2: There was a young couple that I spoke to on
Speaker 2: the phone that's not very far from me, and they
Speaker 2: had both a mini donkey and a pony go missing.
Speaker 2: And I want to say, I'm probably going to get
Speaker 2: this backwards, but I want to say that was the
Speaker 2: pony that the guts were missing from its neck was
Speaker 2: broken where it was turned backwards. And I want to say,
Speaker 2: like maybe its back was broken or its rear legs
Speaker 2: were torn off, but the donkey. The donkey had a
Speaker 2: hole the size of a cannonball punched through its chest
Speaker 2: and through it's you know, uh tale hole underneath the tail,
Speaker 2: almost like something stuck an arm all the way through
Speaker 2: the mini donkey. And I got the Oh, I got
Speaker 2: the pictures of it, and it's horrendous. Yeah, it's horrendous.
Speaker 2: And I mean, if if they're faking that, there's some
Speaker 2: really sick people, but uh, I mean the pictures are real.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to think of that. That's not
Speaker 2: commonplace in like, uh my day to day experiences in
Speaker 2: the bigfoot world, but I do think it does happen.
Speaker 2: Hm hmm.
Speaker 1: That uh yeah, that's that's a lot to take in
Speaker 1: right there. That's that's probably one of the worst worst
Speaker 1: things I've heard. Yeah, it's you know, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: I hope we get to the point, hopefully within the
Speaker 1: next thirty years, where we get some really solid answers.
Speaker 1: It's something that explains like what these things are, why
Speaker 1: they do the things that they do, And it sounds
Speaker 1: like that's really what your group is trying to focus on,
Speaker 1: which is very cool.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. You know, we're trying to focus more
Speaker 2: on the on the answer thing. I mean, we try
Speaker 2: to go out there and just experience it, but we're
Speaker 2: also trying to take everybody along for the ride. So
Speaker 2: we are trying to document, you know, as much as
Speaker 2: we can. We are not, you know, we're just a
Speaker 2: bunch of Southerners. We're not We're not doing super high tech,
Speaker 2: scientific y data research and collecting everything with tweezers and
Speaker 2: nitrate gloves and all that kind of stuff. But we're
Speaker 2: very open about we do a We do a lot.
Speaker 2: Everybody that I'm associated with does a lot of live video.
Speaker 2: We do a lot of meat and greets and try
Speaker 2: to take people to these places so that they can
Speaker 2: experience it. And we've had a pretty lucky record so far.
Speaker 2: Our meet and greet at LBL, there was quite a
Speaker 2: few people that had stuff happened. They either heard vocals
Speaker 2: or had glimpses of stuff like eyeshine. One person I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say who, he can talk about it
Speaker 2: if he wants to, but I mean I think he
Speaker 2: had a full long class A and I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if it was a dog man or if it was
Speaker 2: a booker. But you know, we've had a good track
Speaker 2: record so far with that. We just try to be
Speaker 2: open and honest about what we're seeing. And I promise
Speaker 2: you this. I mean, I'm as shocked as anybody whenever
Speaker 2: stuff does happen and goes off. But then again, we've
Speaker 2: got the benefit of we're talking to people that we're lucky,
Speaker 2: we're fortunate that they're willing to share with us, and
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, if you go to this area, and
Speaker 2: then we kind of way and measure what they say
Speaker 2: and you know, kind of vett it and then you know,
Speaker 2: if we go to the area, a lot of times
Speaker 2: there's more than just one or two of us that
Speaker 2: are there to witness or experience whatever, and we just
Speaker 2: shared it. We share the information. We have people on
Speaker 2: our show that I think are credible and the real
Speaker 2: deal and everything. And I mean, so far, our show's
Speaker 2: doing pretty good. I don't know how you get all
Speaker 2: the guests that you do, Jeremiah, but yeah, we've we've
Speaker 2: hit a lucky streak with just having experiences and sharing
Speaker 2: all the stuff with everybody, and we're just trying to
Speaker 2: be real about the subject.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, so I just so I don't get
Speaker 1: a ton of email us about this. Can you explain
Speaker 1: how people, if they want to be involved with the
Speaker 1: meet and greets, how they get the info about that,
Speaker 1: how they get hooked up with being able to go
Speaker 1: and different things like that.
Speaker 2: You know, Well, the way it started, I'll be brief.
Speaker 2: The way it started is, you know, there are all
Speaker 2: these people going to conventions, bigfoot, Bigfoot conventions, seminars. I
Speaker 2: got nothing against anybody going out there doing their thing
Speaker 2: and having speakers and you know, charging emission or anything
Speaker 2: like that. But we're sitting here on a gold mine
Speaker 2: of areas to go to that that have real potential
Speaker 2: for people to have experiences, and some of them are public,
Speaker 2: so it's not like it's not like super secret private things.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, we should, uh, you know, we should
Speaker 2: do stuff where we're inviting more people because everybody are
Speaker 2: going to these everybody is going to these seminars. You know,
Speaker 2: let's just have a free meet and greet in an
Speaker 2: area we happen to know a lot of people that
Speaker 2: are well known in the bigfoot world. I was like,
Speaker 2: if they, you know, will invite them, they can come,
Speaker 2: they can talk kind of like one of the conventions
Speaker 2: or seminars, and we do raffles and stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: and give away things and we cook and have a
Speaker 2: good time, and we're in areas that have a lot
Speaker 2: of activity. So you know, we've had we've had successful
Speaker 2: with that. But the way that they find out about
Speaker 2: it is number one, first and foremost, you would have
Speaker 2: to watch our show wood Walkers on YouTube on Sundays.
Speaker 2: You would have to watch that to keep up with
Speaker 2: all the changing details. But if you want to jump
Speaker 2: on the Facebook page or if you want to email
Speaker 2: us and the email is just wood Walkers with a
Speaker 2: Z on the end at five or five one one
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com, you can email us, or you
Speaker 2: can jump on the Facebook page and we have a
Speaker 2: link on the Facebook page to the upcoming meet and
Speaker 2: greet which is the first weekend in October, fourth, fifth,
Speaker 2: and sixth, and it will be in Alabama in the
Speaker 2: Talladega National Forest.
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's awesome. The LBL one. I believe that
Speaker 1: that was you guys, the LBL one.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one sounded like it was a really cool time.
Speaker 1: You had some some people there that I mean, you
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been able to meet those people anywhere else,
Speaker 1: and I know there's at least one guy. I think
Speaker 1: David came all the way out from Oregon for that.
Speaker 1: I want to say, So there's people coming from all over.
Speaker 2: And oh yeah, we have people from California and Texas.
Speaker 2: We had about we had about one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: five people there. We had again I don't want to
Speaker 2: name drop, but we had we had quite a few
Speaker 2: well known people and they took turns speaking. And then
Speaker 2: of course we all camped and hung out and ate.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't really so much about the Bigfoot thing
Speaker 2: as it was literally everybody just meeting each other and
Speaker 2: getting to know everyone on a personal basis. And also
Speaker 2: I should stress it wasn't about people meeting us. It
Speaker 2: was about us getting to meet everybody that we see
Speaker 2: in the chats and everybody that we've been talking to
Speaker 2: on Facebook. And because the Bigfoot community, I mean, you
Speaker 2: can love it or hate it. Sometimes it is a
Speaker 2: double edged sword. But if you're lucky enough like I am,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's one of the best things I've
Speaker 2: done is become a part of the Bigfoot community because
Speaker 2: I've met some of the absolutely the best people that
Speaker 2: would just you know, take the shirt off their back
Speaker 2: to help me and would do it for anybody. I mean,
Speaker 2: just great, great people. And I'm telling you they're good folks.
Speaker 2: We have a good time. It's a really friendly, easy
Speaker 2: going kind of atmosphere. And we're in an area where
Speaker 2: you know, the chances of something happening. You know, nobody
Speaker 2: can guarantee that something's gonna happen. But we're We're not
Speaker 2: going in a conference in a in a hotel room,
Speaker 2: you know. So to me, it's it's a better plan.
Speaker 2: And we like going that. We like going out and
Speaker 2: camping and looking for boogers anyway, So this is already
Speaker 2: what we do. We just make it so that other
Speaker 2: people can come.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's so cool. It's such a cool idea,
Speaker 1: and it's it's way different when you're able to just
Speaker 1: hang out in real life with people that you know,
Speaker 1: you talk to online, but you actually get to meet them.
Speaker 1: It's super cool and it sounds like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a group of people that are good people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard I've heard great things about it,
Speaker 1: So hopefully maybe one day I'll be able to make
Speaker 1: it down to one of them. That would be cool.
Speaker 1: We'll see, But yeah, man, Spencer has been such a
Speaker 1: pleasure chatting with you, and definitely, you know, people need
Speaker 1: to make sure that they go over to the Woodwalker's
Speaker 1: channel and those guys are so much fun to watch
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I love it. But did you have any
Speaker 1: other closing thoughts before we head out of the show, Spencer?
Speaker 2: The only other thing I would say is I do
Speaker 2: a lot of documenting experiences and sightings that people have,
Speaker 2: and I don't just pull stuff off of like other
Speaker 2: websites that had it broaken down into state by state
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. And these are encounters
Speaker 2: that I personally believe are real and in my experience
Speaker 2: for this part of the country, for anybody that's listening
Speaker 2: and you're trying to get a feel of why I'm
Speaker 2: talking about Daniel Boone in Alabama and North Georgia and
Speaker 2: LBL and everything. LBL doesn't really fit into the profile.
Speaker 2: It's got its own separate thing that I could talk
Speaker 2: about later. But the Appalachian Mountain Train coming down. I
Speaker 2: live myself. I'm about three miles away from the Blue
Speaker 2: Ridge Mountains they run through here my house. The pictures
Speaker 2: on my profile page are the Blue Ridge Mountains, but
Speaker 2: the Appalachian Mountain Train. Dear Bugger's on it, and I
Speaker 2: do I would stress to everybody as much as we
Speaker 2: kind of keep the subject like hearted, do you understand
Speaker 2: these things are out there, They are real, they do exist,
Speaker 2: and they're moving up and down that mountain train. And
Speaker 2: if you're in Alabama, if you're in North Georgia, you're
Speaker 2: in a good area. If you're in parts of western
Speaker 2: North Carolin eastern Tennessee, you're in a really good area.
Speaker 2: Southwestern Virginia, they're here not as prominent as in other places,
Speaker 2: but they're out there, and I do think people need
Speaker 2: to be aware that they're real, that they're moving up
Speaker 2: and down that mountain train, and if you go out there,
Speaker 2: there's a chance you could have an encounter and just
Speaker 2: be prepared for it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Oh yeah, great, great thoughts. Spencer. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming on the show again, and we'll definitely
Speaker 1: be in touch and have to get an update from
Speaker 1: you in the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bert, I appreciate you having me. Jeremiah, thank you
Speaker 2: very much.
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Speaker 2: Her and I can get on here. We can tell
Speaker 2: our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's
Speaker 2: too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give
Speaker 2: them the courage to come out and now feels so
Speaker 2: bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know
Speaker 2: what I saw, I know what's out there.
Speaker 3: That's all I care about.
Speaker 2: Please let people know, Please let them know. If you've
Speaker 2: ever seen one of these things, you need to tell
Speaker 2: because if you don't, then shame on you. You have.
Speaker 2: Shame on you.