Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: As you can tell, we are a top notch organization here,
Speaker 2: and we never wait till last second to find out
Speaker 2: if your headphones and microworking.
Speaker 1: Uh we were jacking it up when South End Catholic?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So your South End I'm the Catholic part.
Speaker 2: And who was your home court? Picnic? What's your goal
Speaker 2: to picnic? Mine was Saint Paul's and Saint Lawrence? What
Speaker 2: was yours?
Speaker 3: Actually I belonged to Saint Paul's.
Speaker 2: Now, oh okay, picnic man. Good.
Speaker 1: So before we get to cybersecurity, this is Louisville, so
Speaker 1: we got to see how many connections we have here.
Speaker 1: Uh so Angelie Angela Maurici, right, yes, and you went
Speaker 1: there for two years and then you were were you
Speaker 1: the first graduating class of holy Cross?
Speaker 3: Second graduating Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, got you all right, all right, second graduating class
Speaker 1: of holy Cross. Then you went to Purdue for industrial engineering? Okay,
Speaker 1: So what did you do with your cybersecurity? And we
Speaker 1: were discussing there was no cybersecurity at that time, not.
Speaker 3: At that time, no, I mean, and that's the thing
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: You'd be flexible because at the time, if anybody said
Speaker 4: you're going to be doing cybersecurity in thirty years.
Speaker 3: I would be like, what's that?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 2: Right? Nobody knew that's how people were just passing notes
Speaker 2: like China would pass it over.
Speaker 3: At that time.
Speaker 4: I mean I had some computer classes, but if I
Speaker 4: wanted to do my homework, I had to sign up
Speaker 4: for a time in the computer lab.
Speaker 2: Whit. Yeah, my wife and I were talking about and
Speaker 2: we'll get into the cybersecurity security because it's very interesting.
Speaker 2: My wife and I were talking about the other night.
Speaker 2: At the radio station, we had one computer and you
Speaker 2: had to reserve it to either write a letter or
Speaker 2: an email, and the and the the internet was dial up, yes,
Speaker 2: and you was just sit there for five minutes saying.
Speaker 1: Kind I kind of miss those days. So Sherry dot
Speaker 1: Hue is who we're talking to now. You you went
Speaker 1: to work after Purdue, You went to.
Speaker 4: I went to work for the Navy at Naval Lordnan's
Speaker 4: here in town.
Speaker 1: All right, So what did you do there?
Speaker 3: I worked on a gun system.
Speaker 4: I worked on the Mark seventy five seventy six millimeters
Speaker 4: sixty two caliber gun system.
Speaker 2: Wow, just rattle as off.
Speaker 1: She's so cool.
Speaker 4: The problem was, though, in nineteen ninety is that at
Speaker 4: that time, women weren't allowed to board ship.
Speaker 1: WHOA, what are you? Are you serious?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nineteen nine women weren't allowed.
Speaker 3: On board right, right, So.
Speaker 2: So did you have to stand on the dock in
Speaker 2: y'all directions? You're gonna wanna two degrees northwest?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And the thing about it is so since I couldn't
Speaker 4: do that, I mean there were other things I could do.
Speaker 3: I would work on things.
Speaker 4: But from there I got into other programs, and eventually
Speaker 4: I got into intelligence programs, and so that was very interesting.
Speaker 2: When you get an intelligence is that a risk because
Speaker 2: or is it because you're with intelligence and people are
Speaker 2: trying to copy or get intelligence from us? Is that
Speaker 2: a risk on you when you take a job like that, it.
Speaker 4: Can be right because you can be a target for
Speaker 4: somebody who wants to compromise you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we do actually provide a lot of training to
Speaker 4: people on what you know, if like, if I were
Speaker 4: to go out even to a party, that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I meet somebody foreign national, I would have to report
Speaker 4: that back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They pinpoint guys or people, not guys or women,
Speaker 1: but people that have gambling issues. They haven't divorced or
Speaker 1: their cheating on their wife or something like that, and
Speaker 1: then they have leverage on them and that's how they
Speaker 1: get in, right, That's exactly, and that's what is So
Speaker 1: you've got to keep your nose clean if you're going
Speaker 1: to be in that business.
Speaker 2: When you're intelligence and people ask you, hey, what do
Speaker 2: you do for a living, do you get a standard
Speaker 2: answer of I'm a cook.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say on the SEF
Speaker 1: So shearing a tastic career and somehow now you are
Speaker 1: in cybersecurity and then you work for who? So you
Speaker 1: wrote an article right from the career journal.
Speaker 4: I did about it was back in July about the
Speaker 4: ransomware attack on the Jeffson County and clerk's office. And
Speaker 4: we watched that for about four days. And you know,
Speaker 4: the thing that kind of got me, that really perked
Speaker 4: me up was the statement the first day that there
Speaker 4: was no data that was stolen. You can't know that
Speaker 4: in a day, right, you know, you have to do
Speaker 4: forensics in order to really find out what happened and
Speaker 4: did they have access to anything. And of course, as
Speaker 4: we know, a few weeks later, they finally did come
Speaker 4: out and say, yeah, there was some data that was taken.
Speaker 4: So you know, I watched it, and there are several
Speaker 4: things that I saw from the outside looking in, And
Speaker 4: I don't have any internal knowledge of what happened. This
Speaker 4: is just from as a you know, subject matter expert
Speaker 4: watching the situation.
Speaker 3: There things that I.
Speaker 4: Saw that probably happened and things that we could look
Speaker 4: at as lessons learned that when we're talking. You know,
Speaker 4: we work a lot with city and county governments, We
Speaker 4: work a lot with small businesses and nonprofits, and so
Speaker 4: we use this as you know. It was a few
Speaker 4: days later I went and I was talking with a
Speaker 4: county judge in eastern Kentucky, and I said, well, you
Speaker 4: don't want to be like Jefferson County Clerk's office, do you,
Speaker 4: because this is what happened. But here's what you need
Speaker 4: to do to protect yourselves, to prevent this from happening.
Speaker 1: Is there's no perfect closed loop.
Speaker 3: There is not.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what scares me a little bit of what
Speaker 1: you just said was we're not sure what they took.
Speaker 1: So the so you have that, which is it's crazy
Speaker 1: to me. So they were in they were wandering in
Speaker 1: your room. Basically, they were in your house and they
Speaker 1: were in your bedroom and you're not sure what they took.
Speaker 1: But okay, so then it goes to how many times
Speaker 1: do you even catch the people wandering around in your room?
Speaker 1: Like you caught these people, but how many people go
Speaker 1: into a system take what they want and you know,
Speaker 1: you don't know they were ever there.
Speaker 4: You're exactly right because this could have happened previously, and
Speaker 4: they didn't do it as a ransomware. They could have
Speaker 4: just come in and stolen data and went on their way.
Speaker 2: Did they pay the ransom? Do you know?
Speaker 3: I don't think they did.
Speaker 4: Okay, the last I heard is they this is that's
Speaker 4: what we consider double extortion.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 4: The first extortion was we've locked down your systems, you
Speaker 4: can't get in pay us the ransom. So the county
Speaker 4: clerk's office that we're not paying the ransom. We have backups.
Speaker 4: We can rebuild our system. So that's what took them
Speaker 4: a week. Yeah, they had to rebuild like three hundred
Speaker 4: computers from their backups. Okay, so then what the bad
Speaker 4: guys do is they come back and say, okay, you
Speaker 4: got yourself back up and running, Well, we took some data,
Speaker 4: so if you don't pay us, we're going to release
Speaker 4: that data.
Speaker 2: Oh well, isn't all of our stuff out there anyway?
Speaker 2: Because sometimes I freak out and go, you know.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is Dwight saying you look at the
Speaker 1: company and go it was just your turn right.
Speaker 3: Kind of Yeah? I mean think about it.
Speaker 4: How many times have you gotten a letter in the
Speaker 4: mail that, Oh my god, God, exactly right?
Speaker 1: Okay. Sherry Dnahues, who were talking to a cyber security.
Speaker 2: Expert Commonwealth Sentinel cybersecurity was hate again. Commonwealth Sentinel cybersecurities
Speaker 2: with the car?
Speaker 1: Why the cars? The people that sell cars had an
Speaker 1: issue with their cybersecurity? Did they not? So they couldn't
Speaker 1: sell cars?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: They were? They were shut down for days, I thought,
Speaker 1: maybe longer than that. Do you know any deals to
Speaker 1: that one?
Speaker 4: No? I don't know details on it, but but I
Speaker 4: know what it was. There was a software program that
Speaker 4: they used for I don't know if it was there
Speaker 4: inventory or exactly what it was, but all of these
Speaker 4: car dealerships were using the same software and that is
Speaker 4: what got high right, and so if you are dependent
Speaker 4: on that software, you know now you know, it's just
Speaker 4: like with hospitals when they have all the electronic health
Speaker 4: records and then all of a sudden they can't access them.
Speaker 4: They're having to do everything by hand now, by paper
Speaker 4: and pen. And you know, do they know how to
Speaker 4: do that? You know, if you have somebody who's you know,
Speaker 4: been a nurse for two years, they may not know
Speaker 4: how to do it, where somebody maybe been there thirty
Speaker 4: years they remember.
Speaker 3: How they did it.
Speaker 2: Usually, Tony today would not ever let me say if
Speaker 2: I can speak on my behalf in Tony's behalf, stop me.
Speaker 2: But if I may, Tony and I are the dumbest
Speaker 2: people that station, yet somehow we're the smartest people at
Speaker 2: Station two. And here's what I mean. Emails come to us,
Speaker 2: all right, and if it's not an internal email and
Speaker 2: it says, hey, you know, check your four one K
Speaker 2: or whatever it might be, if you click on it halftime,
Speaker 2: it's a virus. The other half the time is the
Speaker 2: company make pretending that it's a virus. Right, So it's
Speaker 2: a result we just don't open our emails, thank you.
Speaker 2: And so last week there was an amendment to my
Speaker 2: contract I was supposed to sign and that this is true.
Speaker 2: So Michael Jordan called me, he goes, dude, you got
Speaker 2: to sign the contract, and so when did you email?
Speaker 2: He goes, I didn't email you. It came from x YZ.
Speaker 2: Well I looked it up, and XYZ has been trying
Speaker 2: to get in touch with me since the.
Speaker 1: Beginning of June's not kidding. I don't answer any emails. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't not take any chances.
Speaker 2: Since the beginning of June. They've been trying to get
Speaker 2: in touch with me. Well, I say all that to
Speaker 2: say this, if, for example, the county clerk's office, if
Speaker 2: they were to open one of these malt where emails
Speaker 2: or something, is there not something in place like a
Speaker 2: firewall to.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what the problem was there.
Speaker 4: So when we look at cybersecurity, it's a layered approach.
Speaker 4: There is no one defense that is going to keep
Speaker 4: you from being attacked unless you are not connected to
Speaker 4: the internet.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: So the first thing you do is you do protect
Speaker 4: the perimeter. Okay, you do protect internally. When we're looking
Speaker 4: at internally, well, you do need to have anti virus,
Speaker 4: firewalls and all that, but so many people they will
Speaker 4: get something, you know, just whatever, and Okay, we're secure,
Speaker 4: and I fear that may be part of what happened
Speaker 4: here is they The quote they had was we had
Speaker 4: the best systems money could buy. Okay, you put that
Speaker 4: in place, but you you have to baby city.
Speaker 1: Who are these bad actors are? They're not here?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I heard that the FBI said it was Russia, but.
Speaker 1: You know, no Russia.
Speaker 2: What are they going to do with our d MV records? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, they need the soci security numbers, your banking numbers,
Speaker 1: information and all that. They take your money.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing.
Speaker 4: And a lot of people will say that, you know,
Speaker 4: a small business or a small city or Kenyon will say, well,
Speaker 4: why are they going? What is our information worth to them?
Speaker 4: It's not worth anything to them. It's worth something to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 4: So, just like your home computer, if somebody were to
Speaker 4: get into your home computer and take all the pictures
Speaker 4: of your child as a baby. Now, they don't care
Speaker 4: about that, but you do.
Speaker 1: I think it's scary that people can wander around in
Speaker 1: those places and know and then and people not know
Speaker 1: that they were there. But you can set up these walls.
Speaker 1: This is why we have the dual confirmation. When you're
Speaker 1: when you're just accessing your email and the and the
Speaker 1: text number has to come and you have to punch
Speaker 1: in the text number, so it's double. I have to
Speaker 1: put my password and then the text number that I
Speaker 1: got texted to get my own email.
Speaker 2: Somebody trying to Amazon, and they have been trying to
Speaker 2: hack my Amazon for at least two much now, because
Speaker 2: I'll keep getting these here's your OTP number, do not
Speaker 2: share it, and I'll get five times a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's trying to get in.
Speaker 3: Have you changed your password on your Amazon?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh, he's lying to you. Yes, he has changed it.
Speaker 1: Uh teager password. The problem is he's probably your here's
Speaker 1: the other Probably I'm stupid because I have several different
Speaker 1: things that the same password. It's the same password.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it's all bad. That's one of the
Speaker 3: worst things that you can do.
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm sorry. It's so hard. I understand it's
Speaker 1: so hard. And I have Apple that will bring up
Speaker 1: my you know, I have them all there, but it's
Speaker 1: so hard to remember. What's the chase, right, what's the
Speaker 1: what's the LG and E, what's the what's the career
Speaker 1: journal of pastord?
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, well, at least do me a
Speaker 4: favor at least the important ones your bank account. Oh no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 4: definitely have really hard ones for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking about Netflix, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah LG so okay. But as a result of all
Speaker 2: this behavior has been going on for years digitally, I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I'm skeptical of anything. If I get
Speaker 2: a text it says, hey, your master card has been
Speaker 2: withdrawn or whatever, I just call the number on the
Speaker 2: back of my card. Uh. If someone sends me a
Speaker 2: video on social media, I never watch it. I never
Speaker 2: watch a video because never once best, no, never, what's
Speaker 2: best worst Canario. Best case scenario, I see a monkey
Speaker 2: scratching other monkey's button, they fall off the lamber. What
Speaker 2: stupid crab it might be?
Speaker 1: Let it entertain you.
Speaker 2: Worst case scenario, I click it. Now everything's gone. They
Speaker 2: got all my passwords a whole bit. I'm just skeptical
Speaker 2: of anything. Ditch, I'm an animalog guy.
Speaker 1: Sure here's another one. So the uh the other day
Speaker 1: when Microsoft went down, the problem was they have a
Speaker 1: monopoly on that software, and it's it's they're force everyone
Speaker 1: is forced to use that basically forced. I think there's
Speaker 1: two different choices you can make. They're one of them.
Speaker 1: So the nightmare for people like you and cybersecurity is
Speaker 1: when you have a monopoly like that you are, it's
Speaker 1: connected to everything right right, right, So that's got to
Speaker 1: be a nightmare. Where does this thing go? Do you
Speaker 1: think and you're you've been around a long time, what
Speaker 1: what do you think this thing? Where's cybersecurity going? And
Speaker 1: will be ever? I compare it to drug enforcement, like
Speaker 1: you just do your best, but you know it's getting in.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. We have to do our best.
Speaker 4: A lot of it comes down to users, just like
Speaker 4: you were talking about multi factor authentication, to have that
Speaker 4: code from your phone, that right there. If people would
Speaker 4: implement multi factor authentication, it saves about ninety five percent
Speaker 4: of malware at times, right because if you have to
Speaker 4: get that, you know, then people somebody can't steal your
Speaker 4: credentials and pretend they're you. But most of it comes
Speaker 4: down to education, educating our users, because you know you're
Speaker 4: talking about dea, Okay, I have a drug enforcement officer.
Speaker 4: If they're the only ones out there trying to catch
Speaker 4: the people that are selling rus, they're never going to
Speaker 4: get them. But it has to be the people that
Speaker 4: are on.
Speaker 3: The ground and that know and can you know, be
Speaker 3: part of the solution.
Speaker 4: So if we're training people and they're understanding not to
Speaker 4: click something, you know, one of the things that was
Speaker 4: said during the press conference for the ransomware attack was
Speaker 4: we had the best solutions, but they just got through
Speaker 4: that one little crack.
Speaker 3: And that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: We have to be right every time, but they only
Speaker 4: have to be lucky once to get through. And so
Speaker 4: we need to put like I said, layers, you know,
Speaker 4: we put we put MDR which is managed to detection
Speaker 4: and response on each device. Right something happens on that device,
Speaker 4: we can lock it down.
Speaker 1: Have you ever walked into a business that you're helping
Speaker 1: and went, oh my god, I cannot believe you haven't
Speaker 1: been hacked yet.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have no idea I got people
Speaker 2: you're just like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: And you're just you how lucky you are doing well?
Speaker 1: You should see her face, this is radio. You should
Speaker 1: have seen her face when I asked.
Speaker 2: What's the matter, boss, I'm just I'm on Russia to eBay,
Speaker 2: what's your problem?
Speaker 1: So how does somebody get ahold of you? If they're
Speaker 1: a company listening right now and want to use your services.
Speaker 1: How do they get ahold of you share it?
Speaker 4: Our number is five oh two zero nine eight eight five.
Speaker 2: The best thing to do is get on the Google
Speaker 2: machine and put in Commonwealth Centenral cybersecurity. I want to
Speaker 2: ask you what is we're talking right now? We're talking
Speaker 2: about businesses in their computers. Let's dumb it down a
Speaker 2: little bit for the two dumb guys in the room.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about best practices just for someone at home
Speaker 2: when it comes to their cybersecurity. What's the biggest mistake
Speaker 2: that most most people make when it comes to cybersecurity
Speaker 2: in the home.
Speaker 3: I think it's and I hate to say, but going
Speaker 3: back to.
Speaker 4: Passwords, making sure you have different passwords for everything, making
Speaker 4: sure that you are using multi factor authentication whenever you can.
Speaker 4: And I think one of the things that most people
Speaker 4: miss is patching, doing their updates. Oh, updating your your
Speaker 4: computers are important, Oh my gosh, because that's where they
Speaker 4: release any kind of security patches.
Speaker 3: Vulnerabilities are discussied.
Speaker 1: On the justing my stuff.
Speaker 2: I never do it, like my computer's screaming me.
Speaker 1: That's but Nick, that's why so slow.
Speaker 4: You update your phone? Because yeah, your phone that those
Speaker 4: are security passages.
Speaker 1: That's helping with security, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Helping security My passwords though this day's old. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: my password is always something really difficult, like one two three,
Speaker 2: like the LETTERY throw. I'm a curve ball, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. They think I'm gonna go four, but
Speaker 2: then the next day I'll change it one two three G.
Speaker 1: I thought I had an ingenious one, and then it
Speaker 1: popped up on a top ten worst this is this
Speaker 1: is impossible, thank you, and then it was on a
Speaker 1: list of don't use this, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: an idiot. All right, here's my last question. Unless you
Speaker 1: have something else. Do you recommend which we buy insurance
Speaker 1: like LifeLock or whatever it's called. Which company would you
Speaker 1: would recommend to Joke Q public to buy because I
Speaker 1: have it?
Speaker 2: Or hang on Joe or Joan?
Speaker 1: Either way, Q public? Which one? I have it through
Speaker 1: one of my credit cards. Heaps and eye on it
Speaker 1: and I think I think we got LifeLock? Is there
Speaker 1: another company or for a personal use? Do you recommend
Speaker 1: those companies?
Speaker 4: I say, anything that you can do is I mean,
Speaker 4: you can't have too much protection, right, so anything like
Speaker 4: that is going to be good I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say anything is any better than another as
Speaker 4: long as you have something.
Speaker 1: But they're not protecting it.
Speaker 2: I think we need to give an examination. But those
Speaker 2: shut up.
Speaker 1: Those companies aren't firewalls. They're like, hey, if you get hacked,
Speaker 1: we'll help you out right. Isn't that what LifeLock and
Speaker 1: all them are they?
Speaker 4: I mean they notify you early, they will notify you
Speaker 4: if they're Basically what that is is watching to see
Speaker 4: if there's anything on the dark web. I think you
Speaker 4: know so, and you can do that yourself. You can
Speaker 4: go to I think it's have I been pawned? And
Speaker 4: it'll look on the dark web.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: See that would freak me out. Going to a psych,
Speaker 2: I would think would be a bait and switch.
Speaker 4: Well, I know what you're saying, but the thing is
Speaker 4: you your information is probably out there because and it's
Speaker 4: nothing that you've done wrong.
Speaker 2: In my case with most people, it's not.
Speaker 3: If you've had an account on LinkedIn.
Speaker 4: Or if you go to a doctor with Norton right
Speaker 4: and you've had an account and a use name and
Speaker 4: password on there, anybody that has been hocked that you
Speaker 4: have used, then your information was taken.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Two things. How often should you change your personal passwords?
Speaker 3: In your opinion, I'd say six sixty days.
Speaker 4: Sixty days unless you have heard that there has been
Speaker 4: something more.
Speaker 2: Of a sixty year guy. Okay, second thing is second thing,
Speaker 2: and I know this, but just for those after the
Speaker 2: adult do it. Maybe the elderly. If you ever have
Speaker 2: an issue with your computer and says call this number,
Speaker 2: never do that and never let anyone get access remotely
Speaker 2: to your computer, right because I know that people do
Speaker 2: that and go, oh, this nice young man is going
Speaker 2: to help me fix my computer, or this nice young lady,
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. And what pisses me off more
Speaker 2: than anything is when they go after elderly victims. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But this is fascinating stuff. You've had a fascinating life, Sherry,
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Really interesting.
Speaker 1: Understand your son is a Harvard law student graduate. He
Speaker 1: is oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: We almost went to Harvard. Out of everything in your.
Speaker 1: Career, is a grass cutting business?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Frank, Frank Harvard. So but one last thing
Speaker 2: out of all the things you'd done, cybersecurity, naval ordinance, intelligence,
Speaker 2: is this the pinnacle of your life? Sitting across from
Speaker 2: two of the biggest journalists in the nation. It's kind
Speaker 2: of think it's intimidating. There you go, Sherry, done a
Speaker 2: you Commonwealth Sentinel cyber Security. Put it in the Google
Speaker 2: machine if you have a bit. Don't let your security
Speaker 2: be uncheed.
Speaker 1: We really didn't get to the election, but we'll have
Speaker 1: you back on. We've got sixty or seventy days. I
Speaker 1: think this is a fascinating We've already gone twenty six minutes,
Speaker 1: way over our time, but we we love that you
Speaker 1: came in and talked. We could do probably an hour
Speaker 1: with you. We'll reappreciate everything you do, Sherry.
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Speaker 1: Was we booked her for the election. Uh stuffn But
Speaker 1: her story is so compelling. We're talking about Sherry Dunnahute
Speaker 1: and she started this cyber.
Speaker 2: I thought she worked for She actually co founder, she.
Speaker 1: Co founded it. The other fascinating that there were several
Speaker 1: things in that conversation that fascinated me. One was the
Speaker 1: fact that these people get into businesses cyber wise, they
Speaker 1: wander around, you don't even know they're there, and then
Speaker 1: they have to make really a mistake for you to
Speaker 1: know that they were there. The ransomware people. They let
Speaker 1: you know that they were there because they bribe you,
Speaker 1: or that bribe you, they they ransom your information back.
Speaker 2: I shared with her some of my past words.
Speaker 1: And she just laughed.
Speaker 2: She said, first of all, you should never do that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, but you're a cybersecurity person. Second off,
Speaker 2: she goes, you gotta change them all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. The other thing was she was she
Speaker 1: graduated from Purdue Engineering in nineteen ninety and went to
Speaker 1: work for raytheon or not the Navy Yard ordinance, and
Speaker 1: she couldn't at that time, girls women could not go
Speaker 1: on the boats because so she couldn't go on the
Speaker 1: boat to help install the guns that she was designing.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like just go back just a little
Speaker 1: bit of time, man, and you're just like, what a
Speaker 1: different world. Hey, you're a woman. You can't come on
Speaker 1: this boat. It's a navy boat, Davy.
Speaker 2: Hey, join us tomorrow. Listen to this Kentucky branded What
Speaker 2: do they do? They sell college sports gear, not just that,
Speaker 2: but licensed, licensed sports gear from colleges. Tomorrow. Join us
Speaker 2: there because you're gonna have free.
Speaker 1: Breakfast from Wild Eggs. Can't get better than that.
Speaker 2: Wild Eggs does the breakfast at the top of the game,
Speaker 2: bab everything's good, free Wild Eggs breakfast while we're there. Also,
Speaker 2: we got fifty or it's buy one, get one free.
Speaker 2: That's a sweatshirts, T shirts, all this gear and we'll
Speaker 2: be giving away fifty dollars gifts cards every thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: That's almost twice an hour to me.
Speaker 1: I know it's pretty good. Shell Be the Road Plaza,
Speaker 1: Shelby the Road Plaza, nine to noon. Perfect timing because
Speaker 1: the first games are this weekd oh.
Speaker 2: But also meet the Sneaking Deacon himself, Greg get your
Speaker 2: if you ever want to buy the book, which, by
Speaker 2: the way, it helps out the Kids Cancer Alliance. All
Speaker 2: profits go to the Kids Cancer Alliance called Sneaking Deacon
Speaker 2: from Secret Service to Sacred Service. I'm sure he'll have
Speaker 2: books on hand tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, on the Kentucky branded gig tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's like for Louisville fans. Some people will go to
Speaker 1: the Louisville game football games and it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the football game, so they loved it. They
Speaker 1: love to wear the new gear and then when somebody
Speaker 1: comments on an East End housewife can go this old thing,
Speaker 1: this old thing.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's what my wife does when we're out somewhere
Speaker 2: and they go, oh, this must be your husband. She
Speaker 2: goes this old thing. Well, let's go to Marsala Museum
Speaker 2: and the Marsala Museum of European and Mediterranean Civilizations. If
Speaker 2: you want to go there, you can go and visit
Speaker 2: in the nude.
Speaker 1: Would you do that?
Speaker 2: You can go naked?
Speaker 1: Why would you do that?
Speaker 2: They're allowing naked visitors to come in to discover the
Speaker 2: relationship to naturism by viewing the works of art they have.
Speaker 2: They're naked.
Speaker 1: No, no, thank you.
Speaker 2: See I'd like to go.
Speaker 1: No you won't. Well, yes you don't. Museums are notoriously cold, okay,
Speaker 1: so it will be freezing anyway.
Speaker 2: And they say every time I'm naked, it's dumb.
Speaker 1: Why are you walking around?
Speaker 4: Nick?
Speaker 2: Every time? I just like it. But what I do
Speaker 2: it to the gym.
Speaker 1: You're never going to sit down, at least the girls
Speaker 1: are never going to sit down. Well, you're not going
Speaker 1: to sit and have your on the thing.
Speaker 2: And I'll get to that in a second. But every
Speaker 2: time I'm at the gym and I take a shower,
Speaker 2: somebody always says, hey, lady, you can't be in here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 2: Uh. The museums allowing guests to go in nude, but
Speaker 2: you may want to wear shoes because they have a
Speaker 2: parquet floor, which can be a splinter hazard, so you
Speaker 2: might not want to sit down either.
Speaker 1: This sounds like a dumb idea of put your underwear
Speaker 1: back on.
Speaker 2: The exhibition features six hundred photographs, films, magazines, painting sculptures
Speaker 2: of nudes. I think it sounds like a good effort.
Speaker 1: I'll think you know what, you know, what's overrated?
Speaker 2: What naked? No, it's not either, oh no. And they
Speaker 2: talk about Sean felt that the whole bad naked. There's
Speaker 2: no bad naked. No, oh no, there's not. But if
Speaker 2: you ask me, you know what that is. It's a
Speaker 2: great first date opportunity. Well, if you're a reality TV fan,
Speaker 2: I am not Norris Susan. However, we do watch Survivor
Speaker 2: argument for that. Here's the top ten favorite reality shows? Right,
Speaker 2: oh see, how can we watched? Okay, let me get
Speaker 2: your Oh, there's your dinging right there. It's hard to miss.
Speaker 2: Number ten The Impractical Jokers.
Speaker 1: Never seen it, not one episode. I don't think they're funny.
Speaker 1: I just don't think the practical joke Tom Mabes are,
Speaker 1: but these are just I don't they they're making fun.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's big.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it. Number nine I know when they
Speaker 2: come to town because people ask me for tickets NonStop. Rick,
Speaker 2: are you in on the Impractical Jokers? You like that?
Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever seen it.
Speaker 1: Give me a No. One.
Speaker 2: Number nine is pawn Stars. I've actually saw that, but
Speaker 2: there's always so many times you can hear the guy
Speaker 2: go eh. Best I can do is for it.
Speaker 1: I have not seen an episode in fifteen years maybe longer,
Speaker 1: and I can't believe it's still on it.
Speaker 2: I think Chumbley or something chummy still alive and somebody.
Speaker 1: I think the grandpa died Grandpa.
Speaker 2: The best I can do is four hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2: And they always have like an expert on hand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: somehow Spider Man's class ring. You say, you know a
Speaker 2: friend of mine just happens to be an expert in
Speaker 2: class rings from superheroes. Let's call him up. Number eight
Speaker 2: is Shark Tank. I have seen that. I've seen that.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It is pretty good. These people come and pitch, and
Speaker 1: the whole thing is that people have great ideas, but
Speaker 1: they just don't have the money to put the real
Speaker 1: into the manufacturing part of it. So they go there
Speaker 1: and sell a percentage of their idea to one of
Speaker 1: these people.
Speaker 2: Golly, I need to get on that show with my
Speaker 2: pea tumblr.
Speaker 1: Yeah thanks good.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm sitting across from a million dollar
Speaker 2: idea Irick a shark tank guy. I love that show. Okay,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 1: I had an idea where in the studios and the
Speaker 1: old radio studios in Rick will back us up on
Speaker 1: that instead of the phone ringing, it would flash, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and then and then flash, we'll let you
Speaker 1: know that the phone's ringing.
Speaker 2: Hot line.
Speaker 1: It was a hotline, so the phone will go. We
Speaker 1: do like flash. So I said, when we first had kids,
Speaker 1: when people had landlines, that when you first had kids,
Speaker 1: someone would call the house when you just got the
Speaker 1: baby down, and it's the worst because then the then
Speaker 1: the you gotta start the bedtime thing over again. So
Speaker 1: I said, we should sell put a clown face on
Speaker 1: those flashing things and then install them and just plug
Speaker 1: your phone into it and when someone calls after a
Speaker 1: certain time of night, it flashes instead of rings. There
Speaker 1: you go, and then everyone got rid of their landlines.
Speaker 2: Number seven is The Voice. I've never seen an episode
Speaker 2: of the Voice.
Speaker 1: I've never seen an episode of the Voice. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: for all the local participants us all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: I tried watching that show, and let's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seems kind of complicated because you really gotta like music.
Speaker 2: I love music. I love music too, But I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, what if if I want to see carry on?
Speaker 1: But you know who to mister gez all right, you
Speaker 1: know I might change your mand here what you know?
Speaker 1: Who the new judge is?
Speaker 2: Who snoop dounk?
Speaker 1: Here? He wrong?
Speaker 2: You need to smoke more, nic I'm gonna push your
Speaker 2: rid button. You too hot to push it. Smoke some
Speaker 2: of my chronic healing. Number six is Hell's Catching. It's
Speaker 2: the guy that gets real loud watch. Never seen an episode. Rick.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the Gordon Ramsey thing?
Speaker 2: It is so many things, it's kind of hard to
Speaker 2: keep you.
Speaker 1: It's the famous thing is he puts the two bread
Speaker 1: The scene is where he puts the two breads on
Speaker 1: each side of the guy's face and goes, hey, it's
Speaker 1: an idiot sandwich.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Number five we've had a guest on, Dave Tobarowski. We've
Speaker 2: had him in a ninety fiance.
Speaker 1: But I've never seen it, never seen episode.
Speaker 2: I have seen.
Speaker 1: We were like one for seven here.
Speaker 2: I have seen this. This is a product of MTV.
Speaker 2: One of the few things I actually liked after they
Speaker 2: quit playing music on music television. Catfish you never watch it?
Speaker 2: Rick heard of that one. So Catfish is when I
Speaker 2: go on the computer as a hot chick and when.
Speaker 1: Someone when someone goes on a computer, No, I do
Speaker 1: that all the time.
Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, I'll message you back. It's Cassandra later.
Speaker 2: Number three is Family Feud. I never thought that to
Speaker 2: be a reality show. I just TV show, right.
Speaker 1: The TV show didn't belong on this list.
Speaker 2: It doesn't belong on this list, right, okay?
Speaker 1: And no Number two.
Speaker 2: Number two American Idol. I used to watch American Idol.
Speaker 2: But here's when I watched American Idol when they had
Speaker 2: all the stupid people, you know, but that one. But
Speaker 2: then they quit doing the bad ones, yes, and said
Speaker 2: this is mean we should do that. Well that's the
Speaker 2: whole point, right, if I again one more time, if
Speaker 2: I want to watch somebody do karaoke, all going to
Speaker 2: mister GE's on karaoke night, right, Why do you want
Speaker 2: to hear all these people that they sing and they
Speaker 2: perform well.
Speaker 1: But uncomfortable is whe're all living is where winning is.
Speaker 1: That's where winning is done. Quote Rocky Balboa, an American
Speaker 1: famous philosopher. Life will beat you to your knees and
Speaker 1: keep you there if you let it.
Speaker 2: But if you got the right jurbil, it'll take care
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 1: Richard Sep, stop it, man, it's a stupid false story.
Speaker 1: Who's there? My last one?
Speaker 2: Number one is Marek's got talent. I've seen that for
Speaker 2: sure because that's where I saw the Alatte dogs.
Speaker 1: All right back after this wrap up the show on
Speaker 1: news Radio eight forty w h A s oh yeah.
Speaker 2: For the city, Yeah all right.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll be live on the road at Kentucky Branded.
Speaker 1: It's time to get new gear for the University of
Speaker 1: Louisville fighting Cardinal games. T shirts, sweatshirts. They've got it underwhear.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They got all of it.
Speaker 2: Buy one, get one free. This is your time to buy.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna buy something. You buy now with these specials.
Speaker 2: Free free breakfast from wild As, come out and join. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Plus the Sneaking Deacon is going to be there.
Speaker 1: Awesome Chivalro Plaza is where you'll find that Kentucky branded
Speaker 1: by your U of L gear with Tony and Dwight
Speaker 1: tomorrow live on w h A S. Rick, you'll be
Speaker 1: again with us tomorrow. Well, I wish I was out
Speaker 1: there because I could go for a Wild Eggs breakfast.
Speaker 2: Hey, Rick, did you enjoy the show today? Oh? Absolutely,
Speaker 2: that's enough, Rick, it's our show. Shut up there, Hey,
Speaker 2: join us tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Hey, you gotta run really in the years tomorrow because
Speaker 1: I don't I want to have a computer.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take care of you. Oh there you go.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we're out the door, Claying Bucks
Speaker 2: up next and Terry Miners at three until then half
Speaker 2: of Tony the Eddie is Dwight wit and saying I
Speaker 2: love your mom. We'll see tomorrow
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