Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Easy Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2: Thanks el Okay, we are going to pick up one
Speaker 2: call from last hour dealing with the resolution, at least
Speaker 2: the temporary resolution of the hospital crisis here in Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: and that is Katie in Westboro. Katie, I'll make an
Speaker 2: exception for you. You go right ahead.
Speaker 3: I actually was listening to you on my drive home
Speaker 3: where I've been an emergency room position for twenty two years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I just I couldn't help but call in as
Speaker 3: I think your energy about the medical school thing is
Speaker 3: a little misdirected. Yeah. So I agree we need more
Speaker 3: doctors that would be helpful, But I think what we
Speaker 3: need to do is prevent the loss of doctors from
Speaker 3: primary care. You know, working in the er for so long,
Speaker 3: I we're seeing a lot more like I feel so
Speaker 3: bad for my primary care colleagues. They're so overworked and
Speaker 3: hamstrung by insurance companies that they're stuck doing prior authorizations
Speaker 3: and making phone calls and after our care they're getting
Speaker 3: their butts kicked.
Speaker 4: Yeh way.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not being defensive, but we have
Speaker 2: talked about that and I agree with you totally. I
Speaker 2: have had a great primary care physician who told me
Speaker 2: privately that one of the reasons that he had decided
Speaker 2: to leave his practice, and he was only in his
Speaker 2: sixties so I considered him to be a young man,
Speaker 2: was that the amount of paperwork, yeah that was involved
Speaker 2: was overwhelming. So I'm on the same page with you
Speaker 2: on that. You go right, whatever point you want to make.
Speaker 3: Oh, sure, just in terms of, like you know, more
Speaker 3: doctors will help, certainly, But I think the bigger issue
Speaker 3: is insurance companies because they're just putting the stranglehold on
Speaker 3: primary care doctors who don't want to do it anymore,
Speaker 3: so they leave. And then that trickles down to where
Speaker 3: I work, where we're seeing, you know, patients who can't
Speaker 3: get cat scans authorized, and then we're they're coming to
Speaker 3: the er for their belly pain that had for a month,
Speaker 3: and we're diagnosing cancer in the ear that could have
Speaker 3: been picked up if they had gotten the prior authorization
Speaker 3: approved sooner. We're also seeing you know, the primary care
Speaker 3: people who can't find primary care docs. I know that's
Speaker 3: been a very common issue. Yeah, it's crazy, so they
Speaker 3: come to the ear appropriately. I feel so bad for
Speaker 3: people they're they're suffering and coming to us in the
Speaker 3: emergency room, waiting six to eight hours to be seen,
Speaker 3: you know, for something that could have been an office
Speaker 3: visit and a follow up. And it's just I feel
Speaker 3: like it's I really feel like the insurance companies are
Speaker 3: at the They're they're pulling the strings behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: making hospitals and doctors look selfish, like they just want
Speaker 3: to make money. And really it's it is about money,
Speaker 3: but it's.
Speaker 4: About them.
Speaker 2: From the patient's point of view, which is my point
Speaker 2: of view. I have a health savings.
Speaker 3: Account okay, which allows me to.
Speaker 2: Put away about thirty one and fifty dollars a year,
Speaker 2: so called pre tax money. So the incentive is I
Speaker 2: have to when I use that account from my medical services,
Speaker 2: I then have to submit a request to to this
Speaker 2: company that is holding my money, and for them to
Speaker 2: release my money can be worse than pulling a wisdom tooth.
Speaker 2: Meaning they know, they want the name of the doctor,
Speaker 2: they want some sort of a code about what was done.
Speaker 2: They want the day it was done. They want to
Speaker 2: know what the doctor had for breakfast that morning. They
Speaker 2: want to know. You know, it's insane to me just
Speaker 2: to recover my money. And it's a scam. It's a
Speaker 2: scam that many of these financial companies that are holding
Speaker 2: our money hold the money because if you don't use
Speaker 2: the money by year's end, you lose the money.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And so so that was set up by Congress. And
Speaker 2: of course what what the what these companies will tell
Speaker 2: you is they'll say, well, we have for our hospital.
Speaker 2: First of all, you call and you're always going to
Speaker 2: get someone in the Phillipps who doesn't speak English, and
Speaker 2: ye please, I'm not xenophobic necessarily, but i'd like to
Speaker 2: I always ask for an on on short person. It's
Speaker 2: they make it so difficult, not only on you, the doctors,
Speaker 2: but on us, the patients. And you're right, it's the
Speaker 2: insurance companies and it's these financial services companies that have
Speaker 2: this scam going on where I'm separated from my money
Speaker 2: in order to pay you.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how crazy is that?
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy, and it's it's really and it's only
Speaker 3: going to get worse. The other thing too, is like
Speaker 3: all these community hospitals now with this crisis that we
Speaker 3: have now, right, insurance companies will reimburse like a local
Speaker 3: community hospital less than they will a Boston hospital for
Speaker 3: the same exact like a gallbladdery moval. And it squeezes
Speaker 3: the hospital, the community hospital. Like I work in the
Speaker 3: community hospital. It squeezes us badly. And so it's really
Speaker 3: it's really hard to you know, kind of figure out
Speaker 3: how to get the internce companies to just pay equally.
Speaker 3: Like you know, gallblader surgery should cost the same if
Speaker 3: it's at the Brigham or if it's at the Showba.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: And I want to tell you one other story, just
Speaker 2: so you can put this in your arsenal of story
Speaker 2: just that got taken from you some of the arsenal
Speaker 2: of stories. So recently, my wife got a pair of
Speaker 2: prescription sunglasses from this company which was freaking out sunglasses
Speaker 2: for relatively inexpensive. All you have to do is get
Speaker 2: your own prescription and a couple of other statistics. And
Speaker 2: so the cost came for the sunglasses eighty one dollars
Speaker 2: in ninety eight cents. I mean a pair of prescription sunglasses.
Speaker 2: Now they're not the coolest look at sunglasses in the world.
Speaker 2: And the other sort of sunglass is if you lose
Speaker 2: them while you lose them. But it hasn't cost you
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars. My financial services company they approved of
Speaker 2: the eighty one dollars in ninety eight cents. They approved
Speaker 2: eighty one dollars, and so they said to me that
Speaker 2: they approved eighty one dollars, but I have to remitt
Speaker 2: ninety eight cents. I'm serious, serious, It will cost almost
Speaker 2: as much of a postage stamp as it will. But again,
Speaker 2: that's that's a company that is owned by United Healthcare.
Speaker 2: If you know which one I'm talking.
Speaker 3: About, Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I get one final question for you, okay,
Speaker 2: because I asked this of all my doctors, doctor friends,
Speaker 2: and now you're one of my doctor friends.
Speaker 5: Speak.
Speaker 2: Why is it that so many American students who who
Speaker 2: have to go offshore to go to medical school to
Speaker 2: places like Granada and and other Caribbean islands, which why
Speaker 2: can't we get more medical schools in this country up
Speaker 2: and running?
Speaker 3: Yeah, more med schools would be would be cool. I
Speaker 3: will speak to the UMass thing. That's where that's where
Speaker 3: I went graduated in nineteen ninety nine. You mentioned your
Speaker 3: friend's son who sounds very overqualified, like very qualified, you.
Speaker 2: Know, very qualified. This kid had a resume that, like
Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. His dad is a surgeon at a major teaching
Speaker 2: hospital in Boston, and you would think that they might say, gee,
Speaker 2: you know, this kid should But again, maybe there were
Speaker 2: a hundred. There's only one hundred and twenty seats there.
Speaker 3: Am I There are one hundred when I went there,
Speaker 3: fifty men, fifty women, and you had to be from Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: Those extra twenty students that they have there now and
Speaker 3: it might be even a little bit more, it might
Speaker 3: be thirty or forty. But either way, the extra students
Speaker 3: that they have there now can be from other states,
Speaker 3: so then they can charge them more. But one hundreds
Speaker 3: still have to be from Massachusetts. And I look at
Speaker 3: that is so it's super competitive to get in. I
Speaker 3: would never be a doctor if you mass hadn't existed.
Speaker 3: I'm from Lawrence. I was working at Malden Mills, you know,
Speaker 3: when I was applying to med school. That was my backup.
Speaker 2: Jobs I was.
Speaker 3: I started med school the year after, so excuse me,
Speaker 3: the year before the fire started, So I would.
Speaker 2: Have been working with that cold December night as a
Speaker 2: television reporters.
Speaker 7: I bet you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I was working there the summer before, and
Speaker 3: that would have been my job if I you know,
Speaker 3: I up and smoke if I had not gotten into
Speaker 3: U Mass. But U Mass is a special school in
Speaker 3: that it really it tries to pull.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I was qualified, I'm not a dummy, but I didn't
Speaker 3: have any connections, and a lot of the U Mass
Speaker 3: students are smart kids who don't have those connections. Like
Speaker 3: your friend's son was going to get in somewhere. You know,
Speaker 3: he was going to find a way. If I didn't
Speaker 3: get into you Mass. I don't know how I would
Speaker 3: have afforded med school. I looked into the military. I
Speaker 3: had a medical condition I was I couldn't join the military.
Speaker 3: It would have been it would have been tricky. And
Speaker 3: you Mass gave me my degree, and I am so
Speaker 3: grateful to them, and I feel like it's just the
Speaker 3: best school ever and it's great for underserved and absolutely great.
Speaker 2: But there's a bunch of Massachusetts kids I know, if
Speaker 2: I don't know them personally, who are in an offshore
Speaker 2: medical school right now in Grenada or somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it would be great to have more, more, more, more,
Speaker 3: school spots for every study in.
Speaker 2: An intelligent society, where's we're a state with six point
Speaker 2: seven six point eight million people and our medical school
Speaker 2: graduates one hundred and twenty a year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, that's definitely part of the problem.
Speaker 3: But I think everybody coming out of there now is
Speaker 3: specializing too, because nobody wants to go into primary care
Speaker 3: because of what insurance companies have done to primary care.
Speaker 3: God bless any actual physician who's still in primary care
Speaker 3: because they're really they have my full respect because they
Speaker 3: work harder than anybody.
Speaker 2: Here's my problem, and I'll let you go with this.
Speaker 2: The only group that I trust less than insurance companies
Speaker 2: are the politicians. I mean, the politicians told us when
Speaker 2: Obamacare passed and Rodney Care passed, it was nirvana. All
Speaker 2: it is is more paperwork.
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, I would be happy with universal health care
Speaker 3: to not have to deal with this stuff. Now that
Speaker 3: maybe may regret saying that out loud, but it's just
Speaker 3: all the insurance companies with all their rules causing all
Speaker 3: these issues. I feel like we just need one plan
Speaker 3: to cover everybody. And I know that's I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to have a I don't want to
Speaker 2: have system like Canada or yeah, where people wait for
Speaker 2: months months.
Speaker 3: That's true. No, yeah, that's that's true. It's there's downsides
Speaker 3: to everything.
Speaker 2: Got it, Katie, Thank you so much for you call
Speaker 2: pleasure to make your acquaintance. I hope you can to
Speaker 2: listen to my show, and I hope you call more
Speaker 2: off because we do deal with subjects like this where
Speaker 2: it's it's great to have someone like you or the
Speaker 2: fellow who's the neuro surgeon last hour, Gerald from Cape
Speaker 2: Carr to call in. We have we have a quality
Speaker 2: listenership here on. Thank you, Katy.
Speaker 3: All right, no found, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: All right, take care, Okay, we're gonna take a break.
Speaker 2: We come back. We're gonna deal with the issue of
Speaker 2: will Donald Trump end up in jail, honor about September eighteenth, uh,
Speaker 2: if Judge won meet him in New York decides that
Speaker 2: he wants to make a spectacle of Trump uh and
Speaker 2: a joke of the twenty twenty four presidential election. This
Speaker 2: is fascinating and if you don't think it's possible, well
Speaker 2: wake up. Coming back on Night Side right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Night Side Studios on w b Z, the news radio.
Speaker 2: So the question is will Donald Trump be in jail
Speaker 2: on September eighteenth? You say, what are you talking about,
Speaker 2: Dan Well. Donald Trump was convicted last spring thirty four
Speaker 2: counts by New York jury thirty four felon accounts in Manhattan,
Speaker 2: and he was due to be sentenced in July. But
Speaker 2: there was a Supreme Court decision that came down, which
Speaker 2: according to the New York Times article that I'm reading from,
Speaker 2: which actually is dated today. I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 2: in tomorrow's paper. Today's paper says mister Trump, who has
Speaker 2: routinely sought delays in his four criminal cases, wants the
Speaker 2: extra time to fight his conviction, an effort that hinges
Speaker 2: on a recent US Supreme Court decision as a court
Speaker 2: ruling granting him broad immunity for official actions as president.
Speaker 2: His lawyers cited that decision in their request that the judge,
Speaker 2: Justice Wan Merchant overturned the verdict and threw out the charges.
Speaker 2: Prosecutors from the Manhattan DA's office, which brought the case,
Speaker 2: noted in response that it had nothing to do with
Speaker 2: mister Trump's official acts in the White House. This is
Speaker 2: an article written by Ben Protests, Kate christ Beck and
Speaker 2: Jonah Bromwitz. So the sentencing, which was supposed to happen
Speaker 2: in July I think it was July fifteenth, was postponed
Speaker 2: for two months until September eighteenth. September eighteenth now is
Speaker 2: a little more than a month away. Today's the sixteenth,
Speaker 2: and on September eighteenth, Donald Trump, running for the presidency
Speaker 2: of the United States, is at this moment due to
Speaker 2: appear before Justice one Merchant, where he will face up
Speaker 2: to four years in prison, though of course the New
Speaker 2: York Times right, the judge could impose a shorter sentence
Speaker 2: run only probation. Now, imagine what would happen in this
Speaker 2: country if this judge was arrogant enough and I don't
Speaker 2: want to say stupid, because he's not a stupid man,
Speaker 2: but I'll just say arrogant enough to a sentence Trump
Speaker 2: to prison or to jail Riker's Island ninety days. Obviously
Speaker 2: there will be an effort to appeal that, but it
Speaker 2: would I think, fill the country into turmoil. And this
Speaker 2: is one judge, one New York judge. There is not
Speaker 2: a Supreme Court just this is even an is an
Speaker 2: even appeals court judge, not a federal judge. I think
Speaker 2: it would be insane for this judge to do that
Speaker 2: under the circumstances. However, having watched the demeanor of this judge,
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything that is beyond his capability.
Speaker 2: Is pretty clear that this judge doesn't like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear that this judge is conflicted in many respects.
Speaker 2: So my question to you is, I don't care whether
Speaker 2: you're a Trump supporter or you despise him and hope
Speaker 2: that he never is able to get into the White House,
Speaker 2: even as a visitor. Again, never mind as president of
Speaker 2: the United States. You talk about a constitutional crisis, I
Speaker 2: think it would be well. Again, I don't know. There
Speaker 2: certainly are ways in which there can be an appellate
Speaker 2: court and joining this judge from conducting a sentencing before
Speaker 2: the election. It's just too close to the election. But
Speaker 2: if no appellate court acts, I'll tell you this. I
Speaker 2: talked to a friend of mine today and I asked
Speaker 2: the question, and that friend is a longtime Democrat. I
Speaker 2: mean long time Democrat, no question, he bleeds blue. He's
Speaker 2: the Democrat. Ah, he said to me, that means Trump
Speaker 2: win's the White House, So I want to know from you,
Speaker 2: do you think it's possible. I think it definitely is possible.
Speaker 2: And if it became a reality, what would that do
Speaker 2: to our system? Let's go to back to San Francisco.
Speaker 2: But I think this call is much more rational than
Speaker 2: the prior caller from San Francisco because I've had Dan
Speaker 2: from San Francisco on before. Dan, welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 2: Thanks for holding on?
Speaker 4: I'm good, Dan, Thanks very much.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that you know, if you're asking the question,
Speaker 4: is Donald Trump on a faster track to jail for
Speaker 4: the presidency? I think it's neither, because right now it's
Speaker 4: looking like he's Donald Trump is not on track to
Speaker 4: win in November. And secondly, I don't think he I
Speaker 4: think they're going to push the the sentencing off again
Speaker 4: until after the election, and even then, I think that
Speaker 4: they're going to penalize him financially, not with a prison sentence,
Speaker 4: because he's already lost two cases, civil cases in New
Speaker 4: York and in both cases they gave him fine. So
Speaker 4: five million dollars in the Eging Carroll case and three
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five million dollars in the bank fraud
Speaker 4: case that he lost. So I don't think he's going
Speaker 4: to do a day of jail time.
Speaker 2: Well, this this judge. I don't know how closely you
Speaker 2: follow Judge Merchant, but I think that this judge has,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, shown an antipathy towards this defendant in
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. And I don't trust this judge. I think
Speaker 2: this judge is judgment. I would call into question. Now.
Speaker 2: I know Dan from our conversations, you were no fan
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. There's no question about that. Correct, that's right,
Speaker 2: that's right. If the judge, in your opinion, were to
Speaker 2: sentence him to ninety days in jail, what do you
Speaker 2: think the reaction would be in the rest of the country.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to happen, Dan. I think
Speaker 4: I heard you.
Speaker 2: Dan, I heard you on that one, okay, But my
Speaker 2: question is if, if, if, if it were to happen,
Speaker 2: what what would be the reaction in your opinion and
Speaker 2: the rest of the country.
Speaker 4: Again, I don't think it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Question I will I will not ask you the same
Speaker 2: question three times, but I appreciate you taking the time
Speaker 2: to call. And I heard I heard you twice.
Speaker 5: I heard no, Dan.
Speaker 2: Dan, I heard you twice, Okay, I mean uh, to
Speaker 2: answer a hypothetical question. Uh by telling me it's not
Speaker 2: going to happen. That means you don't want to entertain that.
Speaker 2: That a question, which is fine. I can't force you
Speaker 2: to do that, but I thank you for the call.
Speaker 4: Nonetheless, can I ask a question?
Speaker 2: No, because you didn't answer my question. Have a great night,
Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, talk soon, we'll talk again. Uh. What is
Speaker 2: it about the English language people don't understand? I don't
Speaker 2: know six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, triple
Speaker 2: eight nine to nine ten thirty or six one seven, six, one, seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Come on back to Night's
Speaker 2: side and light them up here. If you don't like
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, which I'm sure many of you don't, do
Speaker 2: you think that Judge Merchant would ever contemplate sending him
Speaker 2: to jail? I fear he would. I can't prove that,
Speaker 2: and I fear that if he did send Donald Trump
Speaker 2: to jail, he would ignite a firestorm in this country
Speaker 2: the likes of which we've never seen. Because I think
Speaker 2: it would be absolutely injudicious for him to do that.
Speaker 2: But he has that option in this Judge in my opinion,
Speaker 2: my opinion, might decide to become a little big man
Speaker 2: and exercise that option from what I've seen six thirty six,
Speaker 2: one seven, nine thirty. Back on the Night Side right
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Thanks al Let's see if anyone else wants to engage
Speaker 2: my hypothetical question that that Dan didn't want to didn't
Speaker 2: want to respond to. Dan, you don't want to answer
Speaker 2: my question? Why should I answer your question? Come on
Speaker 2: Alma's Fear and Love, War and talk shows. Let's go
Speaker 2: to Gary and Woolburn. Hey, Gary, welcome back. How are
Speaker 2: you sir?
Speaker 9: I think there would be a lot of problems in
Speaker 9: the USA with him going to jail and uh, a
Speaker 9: combination of violence. I don't care if this is this
Speaker 9: vandalism or anything that was you know, attributed to there's
Speaker 9: sconcing because let's face the fact, if everything goes accordingly,
Speaker 9: you know, he doesn't go to jail, everything should be fine.
Speaker 9: But it could escalate into something really terrible. And what
Speaker 9: would his president sentence be could be a few months
Speaker 9: just that, I mean, something bad could happen where they'll
Speaker 9: take it out on the Democrats. And violence could be
Speaker 9: in the streets.
Speaker 2: Agreat Well, I hope not. But I do think that
Speaker 2: if this judge was that arrogant, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to use the word stupid, but I'll use the word arrogant,
Speaker 2: if he thought that somehow he would be able to
Speaker 2: have his name etched in the history books as the
Speaker 2: first judge to send a former president to jail. Irrespect
Speaker 2: of of what problems it would rot around the country.
Speaker 2: I think people, a lot of people would be up
Speaker 2: in our I mean literally, the demonstrations everywhere. I think
Speaker 2: police departments might be overwhelmed, but it could it could
Speaker 2: get really ugly. But and I don't trust this judge. Gary.
Speaker 2: If if I thought this judge was someone who had
Speaker 2: a judicial temperament, I think this guy's has an ego
Speaker 2: the size of the state of New York. It wouldn't
Speaker 2: surprise me if he would do something that arrogant.
Speaker 9: Okay, let me wrap this up, so not being a
Speaker 9: big radio hog in uh and so forth. If you
Speaker 9: catch my drift, I just want you to know for
Speaker 9: the record, David and Dan and San Francisco, it must
Speaker 9: be cousins or brothers, because let's face the facts, I mean,
Speaker 9: after what they just did, Dan, have you ever read
Speaker 9: the book? I'm okay, you're not.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I don't want you to attack other other listen other
Speaker 2: callers here, Gary, I understand it's normally Dan who I
Speaker 2: can have some really good conversations with David. It always
Speaker 2: drifts off into la la land. And he wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about Richard Nixon and John Erlickman. I haven't talked
Speaker 2: about I haven't heard John Erlingsman's name mentioned since about
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six. Head well, but but Dan always walks
Speaker 2: the plank. I mean he must when he makes the
Speaker 2: phone call. He better put on a bathing suit. Okay,
Speaker 2: because Rob's gonna have If I can.
Speaker 9: Just say this before I go, is this? I am
Speaker 9: starting a petition, but Dan and Jay not to call
Speaker 9: this show anymore. I got the first signature. I can
Speaker 9: count on you for the second one. Thank you, Den.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're encounted me, Dan is Dan
Speaker 2: is welcome to call the show again, even though he
Speaker 2: didn't want to listen or entertain my hypothetical questions tonight,
Speaker 2: Dave is on thin ice. Let's put it like that,
Speaker 2: six one seven. The only line is six one, seven
Speaker 2: thirty back on the night's side. Right, No, no, actually,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wait what am I doing here? Let's go.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go to and Dot and met for DoD
Speaker 2: You're next night side. I'm not even going to make
Speaker 2: you wake Dot.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Hey Dan, Well, I'll tell you it doesn't
Speaker 6: have to be any violence. Nobody has to get hurt.
Speaker 6: But if that judge pulls the stunt, you don't pay
Speaker 6: your water belt, you don't pay your house tax, you
Speaker 6: don't pay your quarterlyes, you stop paying the government, and boy,
Speaker 6: they'll be bending over backward to get rid of that guy,
Speaker 6: don't you agree.
Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you this. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I think I think that guy is on an ego trip.
Speaker 5: Oh, of course he is.
Speaker 6: He's a class A.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm not going to get I think
Speaker 2: he's arrogant, which is a which is a you know,
Speaker 2: which is kind of one of the seven deadly sins.
Speaker 2: I think arrogance is sort of a subset of pride,
Speaker 2: but absolutely extraordinarily arrogant. I think he would do anything
Speaker 2: to have his name etched in the history books. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and irrespective of what danger that might present to the country.
Speaker 2: I just think that some time. But don't you.
Speaker 6: Agree that if you stop paying the politicians the money
Speaker 6: they think they do that might you think really good enough?
Speaker 2: Well, if you could do that, do you think you're
Speaker 2: going to get one of American taxpayers.
Speaker 6: Well, you're not going to get the Democrats, but you'll
Speaker 6: get a lot of independence and Republicans.
Speaker 2: Well, if it happens, I want you to call me back,
Speaker 2: and you can. You could, you could start a worldwide,
Speaker 2: a nationwide effort right here at night.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm already talking about it to people. If anything happens,
Speaker 6: stop paying your taxes.
Speaker 2: I'll bet you are. I'll bet you are. You're the best.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Manto. All right, all right, we got to
Speaker 2: get a couple more, well, at least one more in here.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Lucas down in the great state of Maryland. Hi, Lucas, welcome,
Speaker 2: thanks for listening tonight's side. You're in WBZ in Boston.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Lucas.
Speaker 10: Oh, thanks for taking my call. So I'll answer a
Speaker 10: hypothetical question Noe. First of all, the judge is totally biased.
Speaker 10: He probably would love to send Trump's ninety days in jail.
Speaker 10: But I'm I'm a retired correction officer for twenty six years.
Speaker 10: They have they have secret services to protect Trump. There's
Speaker 10: no way that he can be safe in jail. Like,
Speaker 10: it just can't happen. So if he would get sentenced
Speaker 10: to jail, they would it would be overturned before he
Speaker 10: ever spept the foot in that place. I mean that
Speaker 10: that answers your hypothetical question. Yeah, like, there's no way.
Speaker 2: I hope you're right, because I think it would.
Speaker 5: Be a yeah, there's no way. There's just no way, you.
Speaker 2: Know, for this judge to do. But I could see
Speaker 2: that judge trying that, and absolutely. I talked tonight with
Speaker 2: a friend of mine who's Democrat and who was the
Speaker 2: head of a major Democratic presidential candidates campaign a few
Speaker 2: years ago. Okay, I'm not going to identify who the
Speaker 2: person was, and I ran this by him and he said,
Speaker 2: that means. That means if that were to happen, he says,
Speaker 2: Trump would be elected, and he's not a Trump guy.
Speaker 2: So there would be some reverberations here politically as well
Speaker 2: as maybe you know, publicly, if you get my drift.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, there's just what do you.
Speaker 2: You said, you're retired as corrections officer.
Speaker 10: Correct, Yeah, I was retired. I've retired correction Austin for
Speaker 10: twenty six years. There's just so like I'm not saying
Speaker 10: that judge wouldn't try to do it. Like I agree
Speaker 10: with everybody what they're saying. That guy is biased, he's arrogant.
Speaker 10: They'll put it on the record. He would love to
Speaker 10: say ninety days, he would love to stay. But there's
Speaker 10: no way that Trump can step into Rikers Island for
Speaker 10: ninety days.
Speaker 9: You can't.
Speaker 10: You can't. You can't keep him safe. Secret how how
Speaker 10: is the secret Service going to be in there?
Speaker 4: Like, it's just it.
Speaker 10: Just it just can't happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's unprecedented. We can agree upon that. Lucas,
Speaker 2: thank you much. Great to hear your voice. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: You're regular. You're a regular listener down there, I assume.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm a I've called in like two or three times.
Speaker 10: I've talked to you. Yeah, I'm a regular listener.
Speaker 2: Really enjoy it, call more often. I love talking to
Speaker 2: people from different parts of the country.
Speaker 10: Okay, you take care of yourself.
Speaker 2: You do, Lucas, Be well, all right, I got a
Speaker 2: couple of lines open here. We're going to change topics
Speaker 2: at eleven, So if you want to get in six months,
Speaker 2: seven two, five, four, ten thirty also six one, seven, nine, three, one,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. And where am I going to go next?
Speaker 2: Let me go next to I don't want a shortcutch.
Speaker 2: You know what, Xavier, you hold on, Christine, you hold on,
Speaker 2: I'll get to you. I do not want to show
Speaker 2: cut anyone here in terms of time, So Xavity, you
Speaker 2: will be next, followed by Christine and fill up the
Speaker 2: other lines. We'll get as many folks in as we can.
Speaker 2: Would this judge ever send Donald Trump to jail? And
Speaker 2: if he did, if he sent us into jail, what
Speaker 2: would happen in America? I don't think this judge should
Speaker 2: even consider it, but his arrogance might overwhelm his limited
Speaker 2: use of judgments that he has displayed so far during
Speaker 2: this this trial. Back on Nightside, right after.
Speaker 1: This, now back to Dan Ray live from the Window
Speaker 1: World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, where we're going next? I think we're going to
Speaker 2: go talk next to Xavier. Xavier in Roxbury. Next on Nightside, Xavier,
Speaker 2: go right ahead.
Speaker 7: They get chicking my call. My first time you hear me.
Speaker 2: Appreciate applause from our digital studio audience. Go right ahead, Xavier, I.
Speaker 7: Must say, I you have to sleep for many many
Speaker 7: years in my time where I'm going to work and
Speaker 7: see a lot. He sees like a non pr so
Speaker 7: interviewer who can accept both sides. I will say, a
Speaker 7: black man whom mother picked cotton in this country, who
Speaker 7: folks sharecrop, who folks went through Jim Crow the civil
Speaker 7: rights to hold the whole lynching, the whole JKKK, the whole.
Speaker 7: Storc told me. I will say right now, and it's
Speaker 7: and going and known history of the company going by
Speaker 7: the civil war. We've been a civil war since twenty
Speaker 7: and sixteen twenty we have been yes, and now we're
Speaker 7: going to a second coup into America. So I'll say
Speaker 7: right now by you know who it is, I'm calling
Speaker 7: it Car's name. But I will say one thing. Know
Speaker 7: he's not gonna go to jail. No, Why he's a
Speaker 7: rich white man. He can go to jail. No, they
Speaker 7: may punalize them with some mono with the monetary you know, payback,
Speaker 7: but jail time for footing. No, it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 7: Why he's rich and white one two. Now when asks
Speaker 7: you and your audience that have an Obama or miss Harris,
Speaker 7: how would you feel and what do you think the
Speaker 7: judge should put them in jail on the same charges. No,
Speaker 7: oh no, not you, but your audience.
Speaker 2: Well that's I would suspect most of my audience would
Speaker 2: say absolutely not as.
Speaker 7: Well, well, you know you can't talk for them, See
Speaker 7: that sounds. And also because he said he can't go
Speaker 7: to jail, because I agree he should go to jail.
Speaker 7: If I was me, I go to jail. But because
Speaker 7: because because this country, you know, to be in a
Speaker 7: silent civil war, believed that if he go to jail,
Speaker 7: it's like if he's sitting there king to jail and
Speaker 7: king cannot. And we had for the king, we had
Speaker 7: to the thing my ten year old nephew, Grants Learner
Speaker 7: day about the democracy and it's gone. We had towards
Speaker 7: the king and people who are speaking speaking some Biblio fearmongling,
Speaker 7: some biby old wives mean old talk. If he goal
Speaker 7: is going to be a Protestiphan's world, oh my god,
Speaker 7: it's gonna be world that's called under that's called undermining
Speaker 7: democracy in this country, like.
Speaker 2: I'm saying. What I'm saying to you is let me
Speaker 2: ask I'll ask you the question.
Speaker 7: If you sell it, yes, you said no, it should be.
Speaker 2: If you don't mind, let me ask you the questions
Speaker 2: so I get your perspective. If this judge put Donald
Speaker 2: Trump in jail, say for ninety days beginning September eighteenth,
Speaker 2: what do you think the response of this country would be?
Speaker 2: Do you think everybody would wake up and yawn the
Speaker 2: next morning and say, oh, you know, that's no big deal.
Speaker 2: Is that what you think it would happen?
Speaker 7: Well, criminals, good criminals, liars, there's lords, liars to them,
Speaker 7: someone's trying to steal from them, a calm message, so
Speaker 7: someone trying to calm them. So I would use those
Speaker 7: of this simples, the simples that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't under stay the answer, but I appreciate
Speaker 2: the effort. Thank you very much, Davy. We will talk again,
Speaker 2: call anytime. Appreciate you calling.
Speaker 7: I'm getting to fix my call. Thank you, God, Blank
Speaker 7: you very much.
Speaker 2: Welcome. Okay, let me keep rolling. He's gonna take everyone.
Speaker 2: Christine and Dadhim. Christine welcome next on nightside. How are you?
Speaker 8: Oh good?
Speaker 7: How are you Dan?
Speaker 2: Well? I'm asking a question, love to know what you think.
Speaker 2: Do you think this judge would be crazy enough to
Speaker 2: do that? And if he did, what do you think
Speaker 2: the reaction of the public would be.
Speaker 9: I seriously, I think he could.
Speaker 3: He might possibly, But the question is my family was
Speaker 3: all saying too, he wouldn't have the Secret Service in there.
Speaker 11: It wouldn't be safe.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he would have Secret Service. They could
Speaker 2: incarcerate him in such a way technically in which they
Speaker 2: could have him in an isolated area. There are there
Speaker 2: are ways in which there are inmates. Child molesters are
Speaker 2: always protected in jail. Yeah, I mean, you have some
Speaker 2: of the worst people in the world. The nine to
Speaker 2: eleven bombers are one eleven bomber is you have? You
Speaker 2: have some other very high profile criminals that that are
Speaker 2: in jail and they get extra security, and I suspect
Speaker 2: they could you know they I mean, that would be
Speaker 2: one of the arguments. But I think Secret Service would
Speaker 2: basically set up shop, that he would be in a
Speaker 2: part of the jail where he'd be isolated and there
Speaker 2: would be Secret Service on duty.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, do you think that the possibility could happen?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't. This judge seems to be extraordinarily arrogant,
Speaker 2: and I think that an arrogant judge is a dangerous
Speaker 2: judge in my opinion. See, we'll see.
Speaker 3: How about the possibility of home consignment take all his
Speaker 3: communication away from them?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that would I think that would upset
Speaker 2: people too. This is the middle of a presidential race
Speaker 2: on September eighteenth. Say we're going to give you hope confinement,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna you're gonna take your your cell phones away.
Speaker 2: You won't be able to campaign, you you can't leave
Speaker 2: your house. I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's going to be fun.
Speaker 2: To see what happens on September eighteenth. Talking about Christine, Hey,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for following in as always.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you the weekend, you too, you too.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna sleep a lot this weekend, Thanks Christine.
Speaker 2: All right, let me go next. I'm going to try
Speaker 2: to get three people in here, so bear with me.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mary Beth in hand over Mary Beth
Speaker 2: next on night Siga right ahead, Hi.
Speaker 11: Dan, So what I think is going to end up
Speaker 11: happening is he's going to get home confinement, and I'm
Speaker 11: sure he'll get some kind of monetary confinement, but I
Speaker 11: think that's probably what they're going to end up doing
Speaker 11: if they take off.
Speaker 2: So if they give him home confinement, he's off the
Speaker 2: campaign trail. I think the country will we'll be very
Speaker 2: upset with that decision.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think whatever happens, you know, if for that
Speaker 11: kind of confinement, people are already talking about a civil war,
Speaker 11: it's ridiculous.
Speaker 9: We should be.
Speaker 11: Coming together at rocky times are coming, you know, but
Speaker 11: to get it's going to get rocky, I should say.
Speaker 11: But I think that's my opinion. I think he's going
Speaker 11: to end up with home confinement, and I think it's
Speaker 11: going to be really bad to the country.
Speaker 2: Well if that happens, buckle up.
Speaker 11: But you know, then again, if he if he if
Speaker 11: they didn't give him anything, that would be bad. A
Speaker 11: lot of people would be saying, oh, of course, you know,
Speaker 11: fair is fair. It's such a it's a fine line
Speaker 11: to walk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very fine line. As always, Mary Beth,
Speaker 2: thank you much for being a question.
Speaker 11: I'm going to go watch this beautiful moon of Great Night.
Speaker 2: I caught a glimpse of it earlier tonight. Myself. Thanks
Speaker 2: so much. Talk soon. Okay, we're gonna get two in.
Speaker 2: We're going to be successful here and get two in.
Speaker 2: Going to start off with Leslie in Hudson, Massachusetts. Leslie,
Speaker 2: thanks for calling in your thoughts on the question of
Speaker 2: the hour.
Speaker 11: Hey, Dansa, I might go against the grain, but I'm
Speaker 11: just wondering why shouldn't he be put in jail?
Speaker 2: Well, Uh, timing is everything, and when you have a
Speaker 2: major political candidate, you're not going against the grain. You're
Speaker 2: asking a good question. When you have a major political candidate,
Speaker 2: former president who's going to be incarcerated maybe six weeks
Speaker 2: before an election, that's gonna it's gonna to a lot
Speaker 2: of people smell like banana Republic time.
Speaker 11: Well, I would go by the old adage, if you're
Speaker 11: presidential candidate, you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Speaker 2: That's fine, no problem. And you know, if if you
Speaker 2: think that's if you think that's so, therefore you think
Speaker 2: that this judge may very well do that is what
Speaker 2: you're what you're telling me.
Speaker 5: I don't know what he will do, and well, no
Speaker 5: one knows.
Speaker 2: What he will do, but I think he I think
Speaker 2: he has the arrogance to put him in jail, and
Speaker 2: I think that could cause I think it could become
Speaker 2: a very ugly scene around the country. That's all I'm
Speaker 2: saying to you right now. And that judge I had
Speaker 2: a friend of mine tonight who I mentioned. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to tell you who he was, but someone who's
Speaker 2: a big time Democratic political operative who I bumped in
Speaker 2: when we talked about this. I said, what happens if
Speaker 2: if this judge put Trump's and puts Trump in jail?
Speaker 2: He says, Trump wins.
Speaker 5: The election, Well, that would brighten me kind of it
Speaker 5: both ways.
Speaker 2: Letsten, thanks, thanks, I got to get one more in. Uh,
Speaker 2: thanks for Colin. Always love different points of view, and
Speaker 2: I really do appreciate you taking the time of call. Again.
Speaker 11: Can I just say one other quick thing.
Speaker 2: You gotta be really quick because there's another person who
Speaker 2: I want to I want to accommodate.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, yep, just really quickly.
Speaker 11: I I'm afraid for our country if we start dealing
Speaker 11: out criminal penalties based on how the public would feel.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you much appreciate it. Let's go to Ian
Speaker 2: in San Antonio, Texas and you are going to wrap
Speaker 2: the hour. Get about a minute for you.
Speaker 8: You go right ahead, Okay, I'll be quick.
Speaker 2: Thought yea.
Speaker 8: My thought is the funny part is that he would
Speaker 8: be sentenced to home confinement for May thirty sixty whatever
Speaker 8: days until the election with them the election.
Speaker 2: But well, well that's a friend of mine tonight who's
Speaker 2: a Democratic political operative and told me.
Speaker 8: But I think this campaigning from home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure enough. Well, unless they take all of his
Speaker 2: electronic devices away and you've got to call early on,
Speaker 2: I give you much more time. But I thank you.
Speaker 8: You got a one one thing by that. I think
Speaker 8: they'll continue it without a finding. You think what they'll
Speaker 8: continue it without a finding?
Speaker 2: Uh, well, we will see and they do that. You
Speaker 2: can say whatever you want, but we're done for now. Thanks,
Speaker 2: have a great night.
Speaker 9: Bye, You got a darling.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. When we come back, I want
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Speaker 2: bucket list for the summer of time twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Not your real bucket list, but that's the list of
Speaker 2: things you wanted to do this summer which you have
Speaker 2: yet to do and will you get it accomplished. That's
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