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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend. Now Here is your host, TJ. Leaves. Yes,

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indeed we roll on in the month of February. We

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get ready. It's a lighter weekend. The biggest main event

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that exists is the ZUFA Boxing main event in Las

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Vegas featuring heavyweight fa A Jagua. We'll talk more about

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that a few moments, but we do have a convo

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Big Dan and Mario Barrios on the program. Barrios defending

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is WBC welterweight title next weekend, February twenty first in

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Las Vegas with Ryan Garcia. You'll hear from him on

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this pod. Hello, and welcome back in on the feed.

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Here to the Big Fight Weekend preview. I am the

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somewhat competent host, TJ. Reeves, Big Dan, rayphel You romantic.

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You you proposed to your wife on Valentine's Day weekend.

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You've told us in the past. We have a great

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love boxing. We have a great love of the significant

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others in our lives as well. Good to be with you.

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How are things?

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Speaker 2: That was random? But as everything is good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it's true because like saying right,

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because for example, Missus Reeves has come home from fifth

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grade today and they did the Valentines exchange. And this

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is about the age fourth and fifth grade. You remember

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this with young Rayfield and me with my daughters, where

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we start paying attention to who gave us a Valentine

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or not? And did we get any little key candy

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any of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not get to a Valentine TJ.

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Speaker 1: I would not have expected that. Instead, did you take

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care of missus Rayfield?

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Speaker 2: You better?

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Speaker 1: They're the MVPs.

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Speaker 2: I got, I got it all. I got off there weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for finding us Apple, Spreaker, Spotify, et cetera

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to follow, subscribe. By the way, a lot of you

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have been participating with comments, rate us and review us.

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That will help. By the way, I am becoming once

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again target number one. I saw some of the Spotify

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commenters taking full two headed swings that are usually reserved

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for you at me. Look, it's fine as long as

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you like give us the five star review of the

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four star review, give us a five star review while

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you're doing that. So I just thought I would share

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that here that I was aware that some of the

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peeps and savage it's interesting because you'll see two or

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three comments. You know, TJ's an idiot, he talks too much.

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Let Dan talk more, And then four or five people

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in a row are saying, oh, the back and forth

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is great. These two are phenomenal. They argue all the time,

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so it's like the buffet to each their own on

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what they like.

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Speaker 2: We love all these savages.

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Speaker 1: As long as you're listening. As I said, kind of

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a lighter weekend, we'll hear from Mario Barrios. You just

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talked with him. We're gonna play that interview in advance

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a fight week here in a few minutes. The JAGBA

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Charles Martin main event is the most prominent main event.

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It is the ZUFA Boxing main event for Sunday night.

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So this is the first time I will mention because

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those fights are going on all throughout Sunday night, late

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night Eastern time. We're not gonna have a recap podcast.

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Plus it is also Valentine's weekend, so I'm looking to

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score some points with Missus Reeves. But this is the

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main This is the primary main event that we have

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this weekend, a heavyweight main event early stages of ZUFA.

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That's a recognizable name if you follow heavyweight boxing in

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the US. He's been in some different main events are

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co features on US TV, So go ahead, Dan, pick

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it up from there. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's First of all, it's gonna take me some getting

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used to the Sunday night stuff. I mean, as a kid,

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grown up, I watched a lot of boxing on Sunday

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afternoons on the networks. Sunday night is a little bit offbeat.

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doing some of their cards on Sunday nights. They're gonna

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do some on Saturday nights. There'll be some on Friday nights.

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So I'm glad to see a promoter not be married

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every single weekend just to a Saturday night. But I

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don't think a little getting used to. But not a

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lot else going on this Sunday in terms of sports,

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so that's cool. Other I guess we'll have the NBA

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be checking that out also. But in terms of this fight,

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first of all, heavyweights, you know, always good to get

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a couple of heavyweight fights going on. Obviously, I don't

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know if I viewed this as main event caliber, but

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it's the early days of zupa boxing and they don't

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a bona fid main event, so I'm hopeful that it

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can produce a little bit of action. Obviously, this is

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a jaga who was still considered, you know, a good contender,

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not maybe an elite contender, but he does have a

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good background as an olympian. He only has the one defeat,

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which was a decision where Frank Sanchez pretty much toyed

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with him on a one on the undercart of one

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of the Deontay Wilder Tyson Fury fights back a few

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years ago, twenty twenty one. You know, fa just looked

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terrible in that fight. He got absolutely not only did

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he get knocked down in the seventh round of that fight,

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but he got completely out boxed by a much slicker

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and quicker fighter in Frank Sanchez. Now that's the bad

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news because he took the loss. But the good news

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is he's won a bunch of fights since then, not

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against top opponents. The best one was probably he got

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a split decision in April twenty four against Guido Vannello,

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an Olympian as well. But in his last fight, and

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this was a very close fight. It kind of could

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have gone either way, as post he hadn't fought since

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He ended up with a majority draw against Martin McCauley.

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Joseph Parker. So he has been off since late May

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have last year, so nearly you know what, nine ten

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months he's been out of the ring coming back to

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fight against Charles Martin. And look, Charles Martin, you know

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he is what he is. He's a big, strong guy.

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He had no real discernible amateur background. For about five

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seconds held the IBF heavyweight title on a belt that

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he won. I was at the fight where his opponent

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Zar Glaskov didn even get touched with a punch. He

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fell down because he suffered a knee injury. And by

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the way, the jeographight I take that back for Becoley

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was after Joseph Parker knocked him out. That was his

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comeback right at the draw. In any event, Uh so

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Martin can always go through the rest of his life.

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Uh you know, the former IBF Heavyweight World Champion. But

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as heavyweight title reigns go and I'm not I'm not

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I'm not knocking Charles Martin. It's not like he's a

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bad guy anything. I'm just saying, if you want to

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be real, it's literally maybe the worst heavyweight title reign

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in the history of multi belt boxing era because he

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won it quote unquote won it because his opponent fell

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down with a bad knee and couldn't continue, so they

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scoreded a TKO. And then four months later or so,

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he went to the UK and got blitzed by Anthony Joshua.

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claim that he is the former heavyweight title holder. But

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you know, in my mind, he's uh, he's really more

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of a journeyman. He's thirty four and one. He has

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been stopped twice in his and his four losses. You know,

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what can you say? He's coming off of a long

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laugh he didn't you know, his last fight was a

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knockover fight in uh, you know against you know, in

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a club card in California, where he got an easy

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first round knockout against you know, an eighteen and eight

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opponent and he has not fought since November of twenty four,

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so this will be his first fighting well over a

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year he didn't fight.

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Speaker 1: It's a legitimate question. We don't know the answer to

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what kind of shape is he in?

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Speaker 2: What is it? That's always as we.

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Speaker 1: As we head into the weekend, we don't know. That

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journeyman kind of heavyweight that hadn't fought over a year,

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we don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. And before that, before that one round knockout,

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which you know, it's hard to you know, he's probably

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had tougher sparring than that fight that took place in

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November of twenty twenty four. That was his first fight

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since July of twenty twenty three, So it's been that

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long since he's had any real like.

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Speaker 1: Roughly one one round fight in two years.

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Speaker 2: Put it like this, if you look at his record,

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he had one fight in twenty twenty, He had no

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fights in twenty twenty one. He had two fights in

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twenty twenty two, one of which was a knockout loss

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against Luis King kong Ortiz. The other was a knockout

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win against the journeyman former Olympian Devin Vargas. That was

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twenty twenty two where he got those two fights in

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in twenty twenty three, he was off about ten months

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when he came back in twenty three and he took

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a lopsided decision loss and got knocked down by Jared

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fight for Anderson, and then he was off for another

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year plus before he fought the knockover fight I mentioned

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in November of twenty four. And now he's coming off

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yet another long lay aft to fight a jagua. So

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it's really a mixed bag in terms of what he's

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been doing, and at least a jagua, relatively speaking, has

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been much more active. He's got a draw with Makoli.

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four against Viannello. He did fight three times in twenty

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twenty three, but not against top level opponents. So you know, look,

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the bottom line here is this. This is a fight

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that a jaga is supposed to win and if he does,

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you know, now we're going to come into this discussion

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all the time when it comes to ZUFA events. Normally

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we'd say, okay, if he wins the fight, he puts

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himself in a good position to land some other type

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contender fight or something like that, a Contreurmont fair. ZUFA

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so his opponents are limited to whatever heavyweights ZUFA has

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on its roster, and right now, to my knowledge, there's

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really not a whole heck of a lot of them.

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Even if he does get a nice win, even if

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he scores a big knockout looks good, it's not like, oh,

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it's gonna lead to a fight with Kabiel, or it's

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gonna lead to a fight with you know, x y Z. Now,

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maybe in the future we'll see what they're obviously gonna

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be doing with Jai Obataya, where they'll let their guys

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fight within the ZUFA universe. But because of their association

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with Turkey Ashk and Sella and Riad Season and Ring

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Magazine and all that business, that maybe some of those

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guys wind up on Ring magazine cards, and so obviously

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those Ring magazine cards that feature plenty of heavyweights, but

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they've not articulated that. I'm just maybe making the like

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reading the tea leaves, so it could lead to that

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for a jograph, he wins.

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Speaker 1: One more variable, we'll say the same thing here. Usually

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he comes in chiseled, Oh looks like you know, prototype

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of chiseled heavyweight. We don't know that answer. What kind

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of shape is he in to of a little bit

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less of a layoff, you know, going back to last year,

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you would think he would be ready to go, and

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then we'll see what kind of options there are. Again,

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we say to the audience, that is Sunday night, as

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you referenced, and we've referenced a couple of times now

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in Las Vegas through Paramount Plus that you will see

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that on the main event.

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Speaker 2: And you could go anyway which way. By the way,

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as far as the action, I mean, I'm very convinced

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of job but probably wins the fight. But TJ, if

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you told me this wound up being like an early

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knockout for somebody, or it goes the distance, and maybe

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it's a really good fight, maybe it's a stinky fight,

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Like I think, this could go in a number of

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Speaker 1: For Zoofa's sake, they need it to be a decent fight,

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if not an exciting fight, because the knives are already

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and it's early, but I mean, let's see, let's see

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if this is interesting or exciting.

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Speaker 2: This is not like this so far. This is what

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their third event, I believe m hm. And again I'm

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not being critical because I'm willing to let it ride

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for a little while before we really get into making

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the true assessment. So after the first show, Dana White

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at his Prescot talked about give us a year before

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you judge us. My perspective is, you know what, Dana,

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you a few months. You know, I'm not heartless.

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Speaker 1: That's I don't even think it. I don't even think

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it takes a few months. I think it takes two

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or three months here to figure out. Do they have

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fighters regularly that we care about watching. It's a little

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ambitious to be fighting more than once a month when

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you don't have the big stable. If you're trying to

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fight twice a month, you've got to have a lot

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of guys.

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Speaker 2: So who knows. Well, they're supposed to be doing about

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a card a month. So that's what they said when

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they announced this, this whole project. They've they've obviously done

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a little more than This.

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Speaker 1: Would be the third one in about five weeks.

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Speaker 2: Right, so they're trying to get it get it rolling,

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I guess. But what the point I was going to say, though,

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is when you look on paper of what the matchups

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were from top to bottom on the first show, it

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was okay, nothing spectacular, even though the in practice the

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preliminaris turned it to be excellent on the first show.

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The second show, all around, was a much better card

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on paper and turn out to be pretty fun show. Also,

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for me, this is the weakest of the three show

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so far. Now we'll see what happens on Saturday, and

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if the heavyweight main event can be explosive, that would

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obviously change a lot of views. But the way I

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always look at boxing events, there's how do you view

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it going into the fight and then what actually takes place,

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So in terms of the going into the fight, for me,

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this is the weakest of the show so far. I'm

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hopeful that the heavyweight main event can be maybe slightly

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surprising and give us a really good action. How about that.

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Speaker 1: I've always self deprecatingly said aim Low and overachieve that

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may be the case on Sunday that leads us now

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to something that is much more interesting, and that is

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a conversation you had with Mario Barrios. He will fight

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Ryan Garcia for the WBC Welterweight Championship. This is the

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Ring Magazine The Zone pay per view coming up next

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Saturday night, February twenty first, in Las Vegas, before fight week.

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Barrios is right here on the pod. Let's hear from

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him now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our podcast, the WBC Welterweight World Champion,

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Mario Barrios and Mario. Before we get cracking, I'm gonna

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tell our listeners what you have coming up. It's a

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big time fight. You're gonna headline the The Zone pay

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per view card, defend your title for the third time.

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You'll be taken on Ryan Garcia.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, The Zone pay per View. It's at

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the Team Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, a place who

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I have fought before. So welcome to the show. Thank

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you very much for doing this. I know you're already

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in Vegas getting ready for the fight. Just tell me

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right off the bat, how how do you feel going

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into this fight. You're coming off the July fight with

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Manny Pacio and now you've got another big one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm just as always, I'm just excited,

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you know, to you know, be a part of you know,

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a big card. Excited, you know, to be you know,

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seven out there against a dangerous and unpredictable opponent, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, big name.

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Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, you know, I was been having a

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great camp with Joe Goosen. Uh was out there in

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LA since the beginning of December.

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Speaker 1: And we were, uh, you know, we got.

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Speaker 3: Plenty of work out there, and yeah, we recently this

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past weekend we moved to camps of Vegas to close out.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Now we're I think like ten days away from the fight,

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and yeah, I'm just just ready to excite it being patient.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, well you use the word unpredictable to describe Ryan,

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and we'll get to that in a minute. But I

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want to just go back real quick to the July fight.

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You fought a living legend in Many Pacio. He came

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out of a four year retirement to challenge you for

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your title. Who was a good fight. It was a draw.

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A lot of people thought that he won. There were

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some people that thought you won. How good is Manny Pacio?

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Still people curious about what he's still left at his

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age and after the long layf And how did you

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feel about getting a draw? On the one hand, yeah,

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it's great you get to keep your title. But on

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the other end, it's not a victory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh no, yeah, you know, very very happy. You know,

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it's still with the performance I was able to, you know,

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to show you know, Podyas still has a lot left,

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you know, in the tank. I don't know how much

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longer you know that is gonna last. But you know,

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he definitely, you know, went into that fight ready. You know,

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I don't think I've seen many forty five year olds

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looking at you know that in shape or you know,

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able to to to still throw hands like that. And

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he was still still very strong and had a lot

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of you know, cracking both of his hands. But yeah,

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you know, I felt I edged out the fight. But

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of course, you know, that's why, you know, I think

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it was. I think that's why you know, the judge,

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you know, counted drawn. I think, especially being in that

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arena or being at the MGM Live, that like the

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crowd definitely plays I feel like a big factor in

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the way that the fight is like it moves in

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because it didn't matter what what pack yall did. He

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could shove with his feet, he could I could like,

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he can land some punches on my arms and the

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crowd was going crazy like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was there for that. I know exactly what

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you're talking about fights and felt that energy plenty of times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he definitely, you know, it's an electric environment.

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But you know, for for Manny and uh so, I

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mean I feel like, you know, that played a big part,

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but it is what it is. You know, boxing, boxing

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is weird like that sometimes. Uh, but yeah, you know

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it's still it's to kept the title. Uh and that's

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kind of know what just led you know to so

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now you know this this big opportunity, you know, to

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defend against Garcia. But yeah, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: You have a style that lends itself. Do you think

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to close fights? I say that because it is highly

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unusual for a world champion who has made two successful defenses,

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but both of them have been draws. Your draw against

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pak Yao in July and your previous defense that was

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in the fall of last year against set another great

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fight by the way, against alb Ramos, and both of

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them came out one was a split draw one was

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a majority draw. He kept the tedle old times. But

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again you don't come away with the win. But is

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there something that you do that lends itself to just

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being in these tight fights?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe.

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Speaker 3: But you know that was one of the reasons why

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I was looking, you know, to just you know, change things,

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you know, with with with my camp, you know, just

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because I want to continue to just grow as a fighter.

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Of course, you know, like I don't want to nobody

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wants to, you know, retain the title, you know from

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from a draw. You know, you want to have a

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very successful, very dominant performance. And so yeah, you know

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that was one of the reasons why you know, I

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went with Joe Goosen, just to get back to some

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of the things that they got me this far in

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the first place. It's just I was always in and

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aggressive fighter, very busy fighter. So yeah, I just wanted

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to get back to some of those old ways. And

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you know, we're very familiar with Joe's style and we knew,

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you know, he has brought that out of you know

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a lot of fighters, so our styles, you know, they

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they messed up, you know it very well, and you

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know it has to be very excited for this fight.

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Speaker 2: So you're taking on Ryan Garcia. You mentioned earlier unpredictable.

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That's a very nice way of saying it. I suppose

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he has a lot of people They look at Ryan Garcia.

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They see a guy with a tremendous amount of talent,

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quick hands, good power, electrifying left hook that can knock

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a lot of guys out. But others might say unfulfilled potential,

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that he quit when he fought Gravanta Tank Davis when

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it got tough, that he's a drug cheat because of

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what happened in the fight getting busted for peds against

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Devin Heaney. What is your perspective? I know you got

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to fight him. You're gonna know a lot more about

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him after this fight's over on February twenty first, But

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going into the fight, h what do you when you

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when you hear all the things I just mentioned about

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the good and the bad about Ryan Garcia? What is

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your take on his career where he's at?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Really is just I just know I have, you know,

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a dangerous opponent in front of me. You know, I

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know he's been clawing that you know, an opportunity, you

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know for a world title. You know for a while. Now,

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I know, you know, when he looks I guess when

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he looks good. You know, he looks good. But it's

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a little inconsistent, you know, like very unpredictable. Like I said,

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you I mean, everybody's saying, you know, even he said

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to himself, you never know what Ryan, you're gonna get. Uh,

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He's saying for this fight. You know, he's focused. His

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team is saying he's ready, he's.

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Speaker 2: Sharp, and something else saying that. Mario, Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: So you know, me as as somebody fighting him, I

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can only hope you know, all that is true, you

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know so because I know if it is, you know,

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then you know, we have a very exciting fight in

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front of us. But I know if not, it's not

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gonna change. You know what I bring, you know, into

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into the ring come fight night. You know, I'm gonna

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go in there with bad intention. I'm gonna go in

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there with h trying to you know, to test you

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know how much he really wants to, you know, be

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in the ringcome fine name and how bad you know

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he really wants, you know, like to win that fight.

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Speaker 2: So he did take the year's suspension because of the

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positive drug test. After what happened with Devin Hane, he

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got to win turned into a no contest because of

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that suspension, he gave up his entire purse, didn't fight

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it against the commission, and then when he came back

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after serving the suspension, he fought the fight against Roly

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Romeiro for what was I guess the w what became

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the WBA title after it became vacant and Roly had

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beat him and he got elevated. But be that as

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it may, he lost that fight. He got knocked down,

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he didn't look particularly sharp, and he was coming off

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the drug suspension. And now here he is in his

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next fight, getting opportunity to fight you for the WBC

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world title. And so I know you're gonna fight him,

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and obviously you're gonna get, uh, you know, your work

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in and get your payday and all that. But how

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much do you think he deserves to have a chance

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to fight for the world title after what happened in

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the last two fights? Yeah, you understand why I'm asked now,

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Like it's you understand why people might say, well, Brios

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is a good champion, but Ryan is Ryan Garcia getting

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that shot? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean, I definitely see it. I just think,

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you know, the boxing is in a very interesting place,

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you know, where I think you're if you're definitely know

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if your name has still carries a lot of weight,

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you know, whether it's following, whether it's like your just

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your presence, you know, you're still able to get you know,

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those opportunities and everything. But yeah, you know, I can't

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think too much into that because I just know, you know,

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I have an opponent in front of me. You know

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that's gonna you know, he is dangerous, you know when

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when he's you know, on his A game. And but yeah,

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you know, I don't I haven't really been, you know,

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thinking too much about about that anymore, you know, especially

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this close to the fight.

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Speaker 2: Sure, one thing I was interesting because of the positive

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drug test. Obviously, I know you guys are doing VODA

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testing as you've done before, but I feel like this fight,

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the testing started maybe a little sooner than it normally

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would for a regular fight. You mentioned that you started

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training for this fight in December. Is my understanding that

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even before the deal was signed and official and announced

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that you were already testing as was he, And so

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I'm wondering from your perspective, How important was it to

473
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,599
get the VOTA testing going as quickly as possible compared

474
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,400
to maybe the usual length of time that the two

475
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,920
guys would would test before a fight.

476
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, you know, as soon as the fight was

477
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,039
being uh spoken on or the spoken avolve between our teams,

478
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,400
me and my team were like pushing that, Okay, this

479
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,359
fight is gonna happen, like we're gonna you know, jump

480
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,720
like jump on beta, you know, immediately. So that was

481
00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:56,720
definitely you know, uh the yeah, something that we were

482
00:22:56,759 --> 00:22:58,640
emphasizing right away.

483
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: Of things when you guys had your press conference to

484
00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:05,079
announce this fight, that that he made a big deal

485
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,119
about that that Joe Goosen had decided to train you

486
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,960
when you asked him to do so, uh, after he

487
00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:14,279
had previously trained Ryan and Ryan then of course fired him,

488
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,240
and he somehow thought that even though he fired Joe Goosen,

489
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that by him taking the job with you, that he

490
00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:23,440
was somehow being disloyal. That sort of become a you know,

491
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,880
a storyline. If you will love this matchup, what what

492
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,440
is your perspective because it's a fight between you and Ryan,

493
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,839
not a fight between U Joe and Ryan.

494
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Speaker 1: Uh.

495
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Speaker 2: And I've heard Joe's interviews and things he said. He's

496
00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:36,680
saying all the right things, but it did strike me

497
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,759
as unusual that he'd be so bent out of shape

498
00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:40,799
about I got going to get a really to get

499
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a job after the other guy fired him.

500
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's so, I mean, that's the best

501
00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:48,680
way I could put it. You know, uh, you know,

502
00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:51,839
it's it's not personal. You know, I think it's a

503
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:54,160
business and it just happened, you know, to work that way.

504
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:57,240
You know, I was gonna go with Joe goosen whether

505
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,559
me and Ryan or we're gonna whether that fight was

506
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gonna happen or not.

507
00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:03,559
Speaker 2: In other words, if you were gonna find a different opponent,

508
00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:04,559
you still want it sawn out Joe.

509
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was still that was that was still

510
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,839
like our our plan regardless was it was to go

511
00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:12,960
out there with Joe, and then just happened. Like a

512
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,039
week or two after that was when the talks about

513
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:19,559
the fight was I started getting brought up. So yeah,

514
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,640
it was just like, yeah, just just something something that happened.

515
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Speaker 2: So the question is this then it is still the

516
00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:29,680
fact that he did train Ryan at one period of

517
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:32,200
time as a professional. He also knew him back in

518
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,119
the day and worked with him as an amateur. So

519
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,799
even though you were gonna go with Joe regardless of

520
00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:37,519
who your opponent was going to be for your next fight,

521
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,640
it does happen to be Joe Goosen's former pupil in

522
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,119
Ryan Garcia. So has he giving you information that he

523
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,960
knows from having worked so closely with him over those

524
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,559
over those fights in those years? Has it? Is it

525
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,119
something that you can get from him in terms of

526
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,400
like tips or secrets or whatever you want to call it,

527
00:24:54,599 --> 00:24:59,119
and in terms of what to expect from Garcia? Yeah,

528
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,640
Like is he giving it blueprint all of his secret knowledge?

529
00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:06,279
Speaker 3: I think that's that's the thing. I don't think it's

530
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:09,240
like it takes me working with Joe Goosen to really

531
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,960
see where where Ryan is beatable.

532
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: But he does add insight into that.

533
00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:21,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah absolutely. But but yeah, you know, so like

534
00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:25,160
Joe does know him a little bit more personally, and

535
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,519
but yeah, you know, it's just like our focus is

536
00:25:28,599 --> 00:25:32,279
just on, you know, what what Ryan brings stylistically.

537
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,759
Speaker 2: So then how do you think the fight goes? Because

538
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:38,279
when I look at it, I see the Mario Barrios

539
00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:40,960
I've seen fight many times. Big heart will go forward

540
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,119
you know, willing to take a couple of shots to

541
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,720
make sure you get your best win in Ryan is

542
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,000
more of a guy that relies on the speed and

543
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:49,960
then the and the sort of the footwork when he's

544
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,759
on his game. Uh and can really, uh you know,

545
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,880
be a lot quicker than most of his opponents. And

546
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,240
so maybe it's up to you to try to make

547
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,880
sure you slow him down and catch him. How do

548
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,799
you think that the fight plays out in that sense,

549
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,359
like if you tag him and you know, does he

550
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720
maybe go into a shell, does he maybe find a

551
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:07,640
way out the way he did against Tank Davis? Or

552
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:09,799
how do you think about the bloop the blueprint of

553
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:10,559
how the fight will go.

554
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of that is, you know, it's hard

555
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,279
to really say how it's going to happen. Like I said,

556
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,400
a big part of that just depends on what Ryan

557
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,240
shows up. But definitely, you know, just like I said,

558
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,759
and I'm looking to just go out there and make

559
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:31,160
him uncomfortable just with I I know the type of

560
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,359
styles or the or what he doesn't do well with.

561
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,599
And I know it's one of those things, is adversity.

562
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,400
He doesn't like to be uncomfortable in there. And uh

563
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,799
so yeah, just you know, using what I know about

564
00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:48,240
him as a fighter, using what Joe knows about him

565
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,799
as a fighter, and then just like going in into

566
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:54,519
the fight and using all of those things.

567
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: Is that the big Mario Barrio's body attack.

568
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh for sure, that's that's that's every fight.

569
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: Well, that's what worked against him when he fought against

570
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:04,079
Tank Davis, your old foe as well.

571
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, we know. And oh yeah,

572
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,559
you know that's always a part of part of the plan.

573
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:13,680
You chop the tree down, you know, break the body,

574
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,000
you know, the the head will fall. So yeah, you know,

575
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,960
just gonna go out there and make it uncomfortable. Uh,

576
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:22,920
you know, try to get the bodywork early, early in

577
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,839
and just you know, just try to break him down

578
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,799
round by round.

579
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: So you're you're defending your welterweight title, and it's a

580
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,640
welterweight division that is kind of wide open. He got

581
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,599
four different champions. H A lot of the guys are

582
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,640
are newish in terms of having the title. You are

583
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
the longest tenured champion in the way class. Presently. You

584
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:45,000
have the WBC champion as you You've got Devin Haney

585
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,559
has got the WBO title, which he recently won. Lewis

586
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,440
Crocker is the IBF champion, and Roly Romero got the

587
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:52,079
WBA title last year.

588
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

589
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: And there's also Connor ben out there who's been talking

590
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,880
specifically about his desire coming off his big victory in

591
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,799
the rematch against Chris hu Bank Jr. That his dream

592
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:02,880
is to be the WBC champion, not because he's chasing

593
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,839
after you specifically, but because he's talked about how it

594
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,680
means a lot to his family because his father was

595
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,480
a former WBC champion back in the day. So if

596
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:13,400
you are victorious, like I know you expect to be,

597
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:16,480
what's your path, what's your dream fight? I mean, whether

598
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,759
it's another champion or it's a bend fighter moving up

599
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:21,160
or somebody else. Like when you look at that landscape,

600
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,079
you're gonna you get a big win here, You're gonna be,

601
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:25,519
you know, still a wanting end by everybody.

602
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you know that's what makes you know this

603
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:31,359
fight is so important, you know, Uh why you know

604
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,960
I'm looking like I want to have you know, a

605
00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:40,680
sensational you know, uh sensation sensational title defense because yeah,

606
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,559
you know, of course ideally, you know, like I want

607
00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:48,240
to have a title unification with one of the other champions.

608
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,880
But if not, you know, like still you know, bringing

609
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,079
like those big you know, those big names, you know,

610
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,079
like like a A Connor Band. So that's why you

611
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:01,720
know what victory is is so important, you know, come

612
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:03,359
next week, a.

613
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: Victory, not a draw, right, absolutely, Mario, thank you very

614
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,279
much for your time in the interview. I appreciate it

615
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:11,720
very much and I wish you nothing but the best

616
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,440
of luck against Ryan Garcia.

617
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:14,599
Speaker 3: I was gonna talk on to Dan.

618
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,759
Speaker 2: Thank you you bet. Mario appreciate it.

619
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: All right. So it is interesting there are question marks

620
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,480
around both of these guys, including Barrios with the draw

621
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:27,160
not only with Paquiao, but the draw with Abel Ramos

622
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:31,279
on the undercart of the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight,

623
00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:35,359
where he he admitted he was concussed or at least

624
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:38,559
loopy late in that fight, hurt late in that fight.

625
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,440
So he's he's fortunate to have come away with a

626
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:44,839
draw in the last couple of fights. And now Ryan Garcia.

627
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:46,759
Here we go back to something I said earlier in

628
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,880
the pod. What are we getting, what are we expecting

629
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,799
from him? What kind of shape he's had issues before,

630
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:55,440
even with the ring card last May. All right, so

631
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:57,799
give me a little more after talking with Barrios as

632
00:29:57,839 --> 00:29:58,160
you did.

633
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:01,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, Barrios, he's a trooper professional. I've always liked Mario.

634
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,279
Good guy, hard worker, you know, maybe not the elite talent.

635
00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:08,519
I find it funny though that, you know, everybody kind

636
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:10,359
of has viewed him as the weakest link in terms

637
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,240
of the guys with the titles that wealthweight. So everybody

638
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:14,000
wants to fight him. And it's not just a weltered

639
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,039
he can look through his career, he's got an opportunities

640
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:18,640
against other top names, that Jabonta Davis. You know, he

641
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,960
fought Keith Thurman, He's he fought Manny Paco, and now

642
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,960
he's fighting against Ryan Garcia. Uh and you know he's

643
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,119
lost some fights, but he's got some you know, some

644
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,759
other good performances. He probably gave Tank the best fight

645
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:32,440
of his career. He also had obviously the the draw

646
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,480
against Manny Pacow. A lot of people, myself included, thought

647
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:37,519
that many deserved that decision. But the bottom line is

648
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:39,839
he's out there taking fights against top names. He's not

649
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,240
looking to duck anybody. He always comes to fight, you know,

650
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,480
and if he doesn't win. You know, you know you're

651
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,559
gonna get a good you know, a good effort, I

652
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,039
should say. So he's excited about this and he you know,

653
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:51,720
as you mentioned, you just have no idea, Like I

654
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:54,000
feel like I know what I'm gonna get from Mario

655
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,160
Barrios because we've seen him many times. Can he get

656
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,759
probably a fun fight Ryan Garcia? Who the hell knows?

657
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:02,920
I mean, he's all over the place, and you know,

658
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880
and as people heard, like I did, ask him about

659
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,039
the fact that he's taken on an opponent Ryan Garcia,

660
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:13,400
who by any normal metric, if this was like people,

661
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:16,400
if it was a true meritocracy in boxing, of getting

662
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,920
a chance to fight for a world championship, Ryan Garcia

663
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,000
would be like fucking ten thousandth in the line forgive

664
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,960
fighting for a world title. I mean, the guy's coming

665
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,880
off having been suspended for a year for positive drug

666
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,319
tests and missing wait for the fight against Devin Hainey,

667
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:32,519
and he filed it up after serving a suspension where

668
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,640
he looked like death, wormed over and got knocked down

669
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,160
and lost one of the most uninspiring performances of all

670
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,960
time against Roly Romero in May, in a fight that

671
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160
he was opposed to win and set up the rematch

672
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,960
with Haney, so a no contest and a loss, and

673
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240
now he's getting a world championship fight. That is boxing

674
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:53,559
for you. So that is true. But you know, I

675
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,559
thought the reason I'm saying this, I like the way

676
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:58,440
Mario's attitude was ask him does he really deserved the shot,

677
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,640
which is like, listen, I just got a fight. The fight.

678
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, there's dollars because it's the name

679
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,440
Ryan Garcia. So so a.

680
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,319
Speaker 2: Fight between those two guys. I hope Brian is in

681
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,680
a better frame of mind mentally and physically compared to

682
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,960
the way he has been in his last two fights.

683
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,400
And I feel like Barrios, you know, is going to

684
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,400
show up uh and do the best that he can.

685
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,119
And you know, of course, the whole situation with Joe

686
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,279
Goosen as the trainer is become a storyline because of

687
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:28,920
him having formerly trained Ryan Uh and taking it personal

688
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,079
that he supposedly was disloyaled by going with Barrios, even

689
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:33,119
though Ryan, of course.

690
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Fire got rid of whatever. Right.

691
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: It's like the soap opera aspect of boxing.

692
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,519
Speaker 1: More more drama for fight week next week, but good

693
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:44,960
get there to have Barrios. Let's go now to some news.

694
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,759
I read my Dan Rayfield substat.

695
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:49,079
Speaker 2: As you should in all of our listeners.

696
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: Shows, you should be subscribed up to that the newsletter

697
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,880
that the name Eryl Spence popped up in my inbox

698
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,160
to potentially fight Tim Zoo. I remember, don't I remember?

699
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:05,000
Erol Spence. He fought like three years ago against Terrence Crawford,

700
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,559
and you and I were there, Yes, were, and he

701
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:11,359
hasn't fought since wiped him out.

702
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:13,799
Speaker 2: We do the show twice a week. We spent all

703
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:16,640
that time doing the US show. When next each other out,

704
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:18,160
it's the only time we've ever met each other.

705
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: And we've only been in person one time. And you

706
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:23,200
live in northern Virginia and I live in west central Florida,

707
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:24,880
and we had to go to Las Vegas to be

708
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,279
able to meet up. But yeah, that's the one time

709
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:31,160
we've been together. Because again, when the Titans, you know,

710
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,119
come rolling around, it doesn't happen that often. And so

711
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,799
we were there, and my god, it was almost three

712
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000
years ago that we were there, and I've heard four

713
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,799
different times that Erl Spence is potentially going to be

714
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:45,799
back to fight this guy or that guy. So let

715
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,240
me phrase it this way. What leads us to believe

716
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:50,880
that this is the time that he's back when he

717
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,480
hasn't been back for two and a half years to

718
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,799
potentially fight Tim Zoo And as you reported in the substack,

719
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,960
this would be in Australia, So go ahead.

720
00:33:57,759 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: That's correct. Yeah, I mean, listen, there was a lot

721
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:02,680
of discussion after the loss against Crawford because there was

722
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:05,119
rematch language in there that the rematch might happen, and

723
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,360
it became a whole big thing. And obviously, even if

724
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,159
the fighters wanted to do the rematch, there was a

725
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,320
question would it be as a welterweight, would they go

726
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,519
to the junior middleweight? Then obviously, you know, you have

727
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,159
to look at the business. It was such a one

728
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,599
sided ass kicking by Karen Crawford and beating him that

729
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,760
the PBC people felt like it was a disaster financially

730
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,239
if they did the rematch, because you know, I'm sure

731
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,320
some people would have certainly still bought the pay per view,

732
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,639
but it would not have been close to the level

733
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:36,039
of magnitude or interest as the first fight because the

734
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,239
first fight was such a one sided thrashing. You know,

735
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,280
after we had waited several years for the fights, so

736
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,840
an event, the fight never never took place. Aryl had

737
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,719
another injury involved in there. He got into a lawsuit

738
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,519
with Derek James, the trainer, so there was litigation going

739
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:51,159
on with that. And you know, honestly, he took such

740
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:52,920
a beating and he had he made so much money.

741
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:55,840
If you follow Errol on his social he was spending

742
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,800
time with the kids and with the family and you know,

743
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,679
bringing his kids to their sports practic and to their

744
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,199
school and you know, being a dad and just hanging out,

745
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,239
which is cool. I'm glad to see ta gate the rest.

746
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,920
But he always maintained that he would be back. There

747
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,599
was discussions maybe you would fight Fundorra at one point,

748
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,880
but at the end of the day, he.

749
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Got in the ring with Fundora a year ago. Yeah right, No,

750
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:20,559
actually two years ago when Fundora won the first fight

751
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:22,440
with Zoo, right, he got in the ring. He got

752
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,880
in the ring with and he still hasn't had a

753
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:26,280
fight since then.

754
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: So now you ask why and the reason, You know,

755
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,599
how do we know this is happening now? Well, first

756
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:33,400
of all, number one, it's not signed, it's not one

757
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,960
hundred percent done. But I've talked to people on both

758
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,960
sides of the coin, and everybody is acknowledged that this

759
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,159
is something they're working towards, and it's you know again,

760
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,280
you can't stay for one hundred percent until the ink

761
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,920
is dry on whatever contracts I gotta sign. But by

762
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,079
all accounts, his fights, you know, in the process of

763
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,960
being made, and it will take place in Australia. It'll

764
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,119
be in June. Erow will go officially to Junior middle eight.

765
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:55,679
Speaker 1: Uh.

766
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: It's sort of like a must win, I guess for

767
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,159
both guys, because if Arrow comes off of three or

768
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,480
layoff having been pummeled by Crawford and loses to tim Zu,

769
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,280
you know, probably that's you know, I won't see you

770
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,960
have to retire, but certainly at the upper echelon your

771
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,159
your days are probably over. And tim Zo has had

772
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,559
his own issues. Who's looked like, you know, he's got

773
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:20,360
a lot of uh, you know, he's he's been degraded

774
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,519
quite a bit since the you know, he sit on

775
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:23,920
top of the world. A lot of people are viewing

776
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,760
him as the number one junior middleweight in the world.

777
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:29,079
He's got a world title. He goes in the ring

778
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,000
with Fandora. I remember he was supposed to fight Keith

779
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,480
Thurman on that night, and Thurman had the biceps injury.

780
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,880
It didn't happen. They took Fandora, who was on the undercard,

781
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,719
they moved them up. They fought for Tim's WBO belt,

782
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,599
also the vacant WBC belt, and as you remember, I'm

783
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:48,599
sure they had an absolutely tremendous battle, blood soaked battle

784
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:51,559
with the massive cut from from the elbow on the

785
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,280
on the top of Tim's head and the busted nose

786
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,320
for Fondora and bloodshed everywhere. That took a lot out

787
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,719
of Tim, and then he got drilled by Bakram Ortazalev

788
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,639
and then fight shot.

789
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: I definitely remember that because I was there for that

790
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,119
in Orlando.

791
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: So then he goes home to Australia. Tim does. He

792
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,119
gets a gimme knockout win against Joey Spencer, who you

793
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,280
know was much less of a lower level fighter compared

794
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,000
to Tim, and that was supposed has now set up

795
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,960
the rematch, not the rematch, but rescheduled to fight with

796
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:22,960
Thurmant because Durman also went to Australia, got himself a

797
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,599
win after a long layoff himself, and then Tim didn't

798
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,400
end up doing that fight. Because he ended up doing

799
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,519
the rematch with Fondoro, beat the shit out of him,

800
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,000
knocked him down and made him quit after seven rounds.

801
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,599
So now you're like, okay, what's the story was Zoo?

802
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,320
He's you know, he's looking terrible the last few fights.

803
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,599
He did come back and have another home town fight

804
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:45,480
that took place in December, a very pedestrian sort of win.

805
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:48,880
He beat an undefeated New England club fighter over ten rounds.

806
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:50,800
I got the win. It was slightly above the fifty

807
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,400
four pound limit. And now they're working on this Arl

808
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,159
Spencer fight. Now. The one sort of flying the ointment

809
00:37:57,199 --> 00:37:59,239
if you will, is there's been a lot of discussion

810
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,519
that he will take another interim fight before now Arrow's

811
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:07,440
not taking an interim fight, but Zoo, they say, wants

812
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,159
to have another fight that could wind up potentially in

813
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,639
March on the undercard when his promoter, No Limit Boxing

814
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,760
puts on the Lewis Crocker IBF welterweight title defense against

815
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,679
Liam Paro. They won the per spin, so that fight's

816
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,000
going to be in Australia, so Tim could take maybe

817
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,039
like a lesser fight on the undercard.

818
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,119
Speaker 1: Help sell some tickets.

819
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Crocker and Paro will sell, probably because

820
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:33,719
of Paro being in the main event. But any event,

821
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,280
I don't know if that that interim fight will actually happen.

822
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,199
I frankly think it's one of the stupidest ideas in

823
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:40,639
the world. I mean, Tim did just.

824
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: And we've seen it backfire. Go to your point where

825
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,960
the guys losing. Caleb Plant lost the interim fight before

826
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,920
the Charlo right, Deontay Wilder lost before Anthony Joshua. How

827
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,320
many examples do you need?

828
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it would just be ridiculous in my opinion

829
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,440
for him to do it, not not even because he

830
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,000
might lose. There's injury issues. You just never know what's

831
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,400
gonna happen. But anyway, Arrow Spence and Tim Zoo, that

832
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:02,840
looks like it's going to be the fight. And you

833
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,920
know what, Errol's never fought uh you know, I mean,

834
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,719
he's fought out of the country, won his world title

835
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,719
in the UK, he fought one of his early fights

836
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,639
in Canada, but obviously going to Australia is a kind

837
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:12,239
of a different animal altogether.

838
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: Can I just tell you I will believe I will

839
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,719
believe this when when I see it. I know what

840
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,719
you're reporting. I know who you're talking to, but we were,

841
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,440
we were talking about Errolspence fighting two other people before

842
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,000
it didn't happen. I don't know. I don't know.

843
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: One thing I have learned in my twenty five plus

844
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,000
years of covering boxing is I report the news as

845
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:30,320
best as I can at the moment when it's being reported.

846
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,280
And everything in boxing is a fucking fluid situation. So

847
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,000
at this exact moment in time, the plans are to

848
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920
make Zoo and Errolspence. Now, if I wake up tomorrow

849
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,000
or maybe go to bed tonight and something happens and

850
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,079
it's not happening, then you report that. I mean, but

851
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000
it's like life, it's a fluid situation. But that's that's

852
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:47,079
the plans at the moment.

853
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, this sport is definitely known for swerves,

854
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,920
and I'm gonna fight this guy and then we don't

855
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,119
have this and we put that on and get hurt.

856
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 2: And one more associated with like Arrol's with PBC, Tim

857
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,079
is with PBC. They have a relationship with no limit.

858
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:05,960
The fight probably would be a prime video pay per

859
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,239
view in America where they would do the fight in

860
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,960
prime time here in the you know for our timing,

861
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,159
which is normal from them, the fight on a Sunday

862
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,880
afternoon in Australia, so that diamond works out well in

863
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,119
terms of the time difference.

864
00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:20,599
Speaker 1: We show what kind of pay per view appetite there

865
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,199
is for that. There might be a little, but I.

866
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,679
Speaker 2: Don't know if that's a whole different conversation.

867
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I'm just saying just as a

868
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,760
blanket comment, because again, Aerol Spence hasn't fought anybody for

869
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,639
three years, and there's a lot of belief that PBC

870
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,599
was doing the best they could to protect him after

871
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,599
the serious car crash, which we haven't talked about in

872
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,360
this conversation, that that broke his jaw. He had to

873
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,960
have multiple surgeries for disfigurement of his face, et cetera.

874
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:48,039
Speaker 2: And he did not have your absolutely lunatic. He did

875
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:49,280
not have multiple surgeries.

876
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: He did not had he had more than one.

877
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: He had dental surgery.

878
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: He had more than one on the fractured jaw and

879
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480
on the dental procedures that were done. I'm not a lunatic.

880
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,719
And Terrence Quaw blitzed him and it was very concerning

881
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,960
even early in that fight because we were there that

882
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,440
they were gonna stop the fight because of what he

883
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:09,599
was doing to Errol Spence's face. So there's some there's

884
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,320
some question marks around this, and most importantly, the guy

885
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,440
hasn't fought anybody in two and a half years.

886
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,639
Speaker 2: I know that, but I mean PDC did not protect him.

887
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:19,280
I mean he was gonna fight pak yaw. He ended

888
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,440
up fighting against or Dennis Ugas, who was a world champion.

889
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:25,239
He thought wasn't anywhere, wasn't anywhere. That was actually the

890
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,639
quarter fight was right before the accident.

891
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,559
Speaker 1: There's also some belief. There's also some belief that there's

892
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:33,119
still the eye problems here.

893
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,599
Speaker 2: Is after the car accident, he thought twice before Crawford

894
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,800
he wasn't protected. He didn't take soft touch two ups.

895
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,119
He thought Danny Garcia was still a very rapid old guy.

896
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: It was not really a welter wait at that time.

897
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,239
Then he thought to Gos, those were the two.

898
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Guys who go by the way. Was originally gonna be

899
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:52,360
nanny pack yao. But when the whole situation happened with

900
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719
the problem Apence.

901
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:57,119
Speaker 1: In his eye right, he was out of that fight anyway,

902
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,480
So we litigated the whole thing. I don't think it's

903
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,559
unfair to question whether Aerol Spence ever fights again, whether

904
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:03,760
he signs on the dotted line.

905
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,079
Speaker 2: With all of that, for what it's worth, if he

906
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,719
watched his socialis back in the gym with a new trainer,

907
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,639
I forget the guys.

908
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: Whatever happened with the lawsuit with Derek James for eight figures,

909
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,480
by the way.

910
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: That is apparently still in the process of being living.

911
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: So now he would have a new trainer, So stay tuned.

912
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,480
Lots of drama, lots of soap opera there, and by

913
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:23,280
the way, if and when it all comes there's a

914
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,880
whole other argument that Tim Zoo has been propped up

915
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,400
by fighting in Australia, fighting big fights in Australia, and

916
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,119
I know this would be in Australia, but once he

917
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:33,199
came to the United States it was not the same,

918
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,400
and he was not the same and has been wiped

919
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,039
out on multiple occasions. So stay tuned on this. We'll

920
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:42,159
see a couple of other things. They made it official

921
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,599
on Thursday. It is Tyson Fury, it is arsl and

922
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:51,119
Beck Mackmodov Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium, April eleventh, Right. I saw

923
00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:55,000
Turkey Alachick tweeting about that date. We had talked about

924
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,480
this before, so it's now official.

925
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,519
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, I mean the date's been set when

926
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:00,960
they announced the fight back you know, sometime last week,

927
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,280
I suppose. But that the thing that was not for

928
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,400
sure is where would they have the fight? Although it

929
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,519
was you know, we all knew it was going to

930
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,000
be in the UK, it was just a matter of

931
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,519
where they're gonna do it. I was kind of thinking

932
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,440
because Macmandov is not like a huge name or anything

933
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:15,679
like that that you know, maybe they wouldn't go to

934
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,599
the stadium route that they would find like the big

935
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:19,639
arena in Manchester, or maybe go to the O two

936
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,199
or someplace and pack that out. But apparently they're being

937
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,960
aggressive and they're putting Tyson Fury in a big stadium,

938
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,840
old sixty five thousand people. This is one of the

939
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:30,679
This is where they had Connor Ben against Chris you Bank,

940
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,519
and they've had you know other.

941
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: B Usk was there.

942
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: Well, it's as where. It's also where Tyson Fury in

943
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,360
twenty twenty two when he had the third fight against

944
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,840
Tasor when he was still champion. He fought the fight

945
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,480
in December of twenty twenty two at this stadium and

946
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:48,280
they did a big crowd. But there's a big difference

947
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:51,920
when it's Britt versus Britt for the heavyweight championship, where

948
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:55,000
it's a non title fight between Britt coming off two

949
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:58,639
losses against you know, a Russian with no chin I

950
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:00,599
guess you know, so, you know, good luck to them.

951
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:02,519
We'll see I mean, I guess the Brits will turn

952
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:03,239
out no matter.

953
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see how for this and we'll see what

954
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,719
else is on the undercar because that might good enough.

955
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: The fact that it's going to be on Netflix, uh

956
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,719
tells me based on the way that they've constructed these cards,

957
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,199
they'll they'll put something solid, I believe on that show.

958
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,280
You know, we'll give give the fans who are either

959
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,679
going to tune in are going to actually go buy

960
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:23,000
a ticket, uh, something that's a little more meaty for

961
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,000
their for their time in addition to the main event.

962
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:26,280
And hopefully that'll be the case.

963
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:32,199
Speaker 1: Okay, moving on, IBF says they have the the fight here.

964
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,440
The agreement has been reached with the mandatory fighter os

965
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:39,679
Leus Iglesias, the Cuban South Paul. He will fight a

966
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,119
Russian that we don't know a lot about Pavel Silvagan.

967
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,639
Is that how you say? It's silly? Still Yagin? So

968
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:48,239
they're going to fight coming up and give us the

969
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,800
details on where and when.

970
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this fight is now done. It was, I

971
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:53,719
mean I wrote about it a couple of days ago.

972
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:55,880
Uh I talked to kimil La Stefan, who is the

973
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,599
promoter from I Have the Tiger. They promote Iglesias, who's

974
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,239
sensational if you ask me. Anyway, they made it official

975
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,280
on Thursday. They put out the official announcement. It will

976
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,039
be April ninth at the at the Casino of Montreal.

977
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,039
It will be on de Zonne in the United States. Remember,

978
00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:11,880
most of the Eye of the Tiger cards for a

979
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,559
period of time, we're all appearing on ESPN Plus through

980
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:17,559
their agreement with Top Rank. Obviously that does not exist anymore.

981
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:21,159
So this I the Tiger has a two fight deal

982
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:23,440
apparently with the Zone. What they announced they will show

983
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,199
this fight outside of Canada on his own as well

984
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:29,039
as they have another card that's taking place in March,

985
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,679
not as high profile of a fight that will also

986
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,039
be part of that. In any event, Look, still Yagin

987
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,000
is the guy that they got to in the ratings.

988
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,360
Iglacias was sitting there as the mandatory in the next

989
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,599
up for the for the mandatory to fight for the title.

990
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,639
And so what the IBF does is they go down

991
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:46,960
the rankings, and so Canelo Alvarez was the next guy.

992
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,199
He turned it down. Obviously, he's not fighting until September

993
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,320
and he wasn't gonna, you know, wait for that long

994
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,679
and he doesn't need to be fighting Glaciers anyway. He's

995
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:57,320
gonna do something bigger in Saudi Arabia. And then they

996
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,280
went to the next guy available, which was Himimon. Yeah,

997
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,800
he also turned it down. I'm not really sure the

998
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,400
reason why why is it? Which is interesting. Maybe the

999
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,320
money wasn't right, I don't know. But well, it didn't

1000
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,800
even get to the money. They just they said no.

1001
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,119
I mean, they didn't even get to a point where

1002
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:12,519
they're going to negotiate it in any event, So Yagin

1003
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:14,599
was the next guy on the on the on the ratings,

1004
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,079
so he accepted it. They made a deal. Didn't need

1005
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:19,719
a purse bid for those who care. So Yagin is

1006
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,920
sixteen oh to one with seven knockouts. He's a Russian fighter,

1007
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,480
he's thirty two years old. He is only fought once

1008
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:29,119
in twenty twenty five. He has not yet fought outside

1009
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:31,000
of Russia, so obviously this will be his first time

1010
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:34,079
fighting outside of his home country. But I'll tell you

1011
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:35,320
right now, I don't care who you are in the

1012
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,800
super middleweight division, Canel Alvarez, you know, Christian, Manbilly, you

1013
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,079
name it. Anybody in that weight class is going to

1014
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:44,719
get a tough night from Muglesias. He's a big puncher.

1015
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,239
He is not a typical you know Cuban that likes

1016
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,679
to box and move and maybe rely solely on defense.

1017
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,960
He can do that, but he's also got heavy hands.

1018
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,119
And if you've watched any of his fights that have

1019
00:46:56,159 --> 00:46:58,920
been on those high the Tiger cards that were available

1020
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,960
here in America as he has been coming up the

1021
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:05,559
ladder on ESPN plus, he's a superb fighter. And it's

1022
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,519
funny because The Tiger also was the promoter of Christian

1023
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:13,320
and Billy, very very physically strong, good punching, you know,

1024
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,840
good engine type guys in the super middle eight division.

1025
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:19,880
And although it's not a commercial blockbuster, if they were

1026
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,320
to match Iglesias with n Billy from an excitement and

1027
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,360
a fun standpoint boy, that would be a canvas fight.

1028
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,719
But the ability division.

1029
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,119
Speaker 1: Mobilly has now been elevated to the full WBC champion

1030
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,639
correct as well. So the belief we talked about this before,

1031
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,519
belief is he's going to fight somebody else, said Lester Martinez.

1032
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,559
I mean rematch him. He could fight somebody.

1033
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: Else, But I don't think he's going to do in

1034
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:43,719
the rematch, at least not.

1035
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,559
Speaker 1: Far fetched that if he Glacias keeps winning short term

1036
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:50,079
and Mobilly wins, another fight possible.

1037
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:53,519
Speaker 2: But the thing about he's a very fan friendly fighter.

1038
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:57,639
He's got fourteen fights, no losses, thirteen knockouts. And if

1039
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,199
you weren't a believer when I watched he find the

1040
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:02,599
title eliminator against Vladimir Shishkin, who's been in the ring

1041
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,000
with some good fighters and had a good record, he

1042
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:06,760
just beat the crap at him and stopped him in

1043
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,679
the eighth round. I mean, there were some people going

1044
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:10,400
into that fight. They thought Shishkin might be able out

1045
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,559
boxing to some degree and perhaps you know, get out

1046
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,360
of dodge with a victory. But Iglesias was not le

1047
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,960
put the hammer down, put it like that. So that's

1048
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,440
your's your that's your vacant IBF title fight. As the

1049
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:23,480
organizations filled the Belts in the wake of Terrence Crawford

1050
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,760
having been undisputed retiring and giving up all the titles.

1051
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:31,199
Speaker 1: So look for that one April ninth, Montreal as it stands.

1052
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,039
Moving on a couple of more things. Okay, the latest

1053
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:38,199
with Javonte Davis, who's making news for all the wrong reasons,

1054
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:41,960
is that the judge in Baltimore in his hit and

1055
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:46,239
run case and his probation rescinded the arrest warrant for

1056
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,519
Davis after his latest legal trouble, his latest arrest for

1057
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,840
domestic violence in Miami, which would be a probation violation

1058
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,880
by the way. So apparently, according to Davis's lawyer, he

1059
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,400
now has a date a summons to appear before the judge.

1060
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,280
Stay tuned on what all this means, so fill in

1061
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:04,960
any other blank.

1062
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:07,039
Speaker 2: I don't think they've given it an actual date, but

1063
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,519
the way that I read it, and I'll give props

1064
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:15,480
to the folks that have covered Davis's legal issues at

1065
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:18,079
a publication called the Baltimore Banner. They've been doing a

1066
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:21,199
great job for years, and you know, let them do

1067
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,840
it because nobody else wants to. In any event, Apparently

1068
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,119
it's more serious if you have an arrest woirant issued

1069
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,000
than if they judge or the courts issues as summons,

1070
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,760
you know, because obviously now he's not going to just

1071
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,840
be pulled over and can get handcuffed and get you know,

1072
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,000
thrown in jail and brought up to Baltimore to appear

1073
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,159
in court. The judge went there and asked, listen, give

1074
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,719
us a summons. We'll show up. They're going to give

1075
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,280
him a g said, we'll take a GPS monitor. You know,

1076
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,039
they'll put like an ankle bracelet on him. I guess

1077
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:51,400
because remember he was on the lamb basically for two

1078
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,760
weeks when the cops were looking for him in Miami Gardens, Florida,

1079
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,639
in relation to the domestic violence case that he's now

1080
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,880
in the jackpot for. So you and I when we

1081
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,320
were talking about the fact that the judge in Baltimore

1082
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,760
was probably gonna get involved because if you get arrested

1083
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,320
for domestic violence in Florida, obviously that's a probation violation.

1084
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:14,239
But he's still on probation from that hit and run conviction,

1085
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:18,199
so he's not out of the woods. It's just right

1086
00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:21,960
now his situation in Baltimore is maybe a slightly less

1087
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,599
dramatic if you will, because.

1088
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna I'm gonna tip it. I'm gonna give it away.

1089
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,039
You know what the initials in court FTA are failure

1090
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,280
to appear. What are the odds right now on Javonte

1091
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,039
Davis ft A in the Baltimore court. I mean put

1092
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:43,760
that at right now because he's I think he's gonna

1093
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,719
be in a knuckle ahead all along the way with all.

1094
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:49,599
Speaker 2: Of this, but not showing up. That was kind of

1095
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:51,719
a first form I guess, as far as a summons

1096
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,719
or a war or whatever. So if you if you

1097
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,920
listen to the lawyer, you know this is the guy

1098
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000
that's defending him, that's hired to work the case. His

1099
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:01,920
comment to the Baltimo was, we're thankful that the court

1100
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,079
recalled the warrant. Mister Davis remains compliant and will continue

1101
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:09,760
it to appear, continue to appear as required. So we'll see,

1102
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,679
uh huh. I wouldn't bet on anything with.

1103
00:51:11,639 --> 00:51:15,039
Speaker 1: That either, all right, so stay tuned on whenever that is.

1104
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:18,320
We'll keep track of it with with Gervonte Davis, who's

1105
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,639
legal troubles continue to mount, including in South Florida and

1106
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:23,960
the latest charges and what's going to happen with that?

1107
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: All right?

1108
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:31,159
Speaker 1: Anything else here real quick? H the Bad Bunny halftime show?

1109
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:33,480
You know, I haven't heard much about that. I don't

1110
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:39,079
know on the Internet, on social media, on certain cable

1111
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:41,320
news outlets. If it's if it's really been talked about

1112
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,119
the Bad Bunny.

1113
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: House, you think it was a little bit polarizing.

1114
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: I will yes, I will say this. For my seventeen

1115
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,079
year olds, my lily white American seventeen year olds, the

1116
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,320
only thing they cared about Sunday was not the game

1117
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,719
of the commercials, was the Bad Bunny halftime show. So

1118
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,559
we watched, along with over one hundred and twenty million

1119
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:03,079
other Americans. About I know young ray Field was traveling back.

1120
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:04,840
Did he get back in time for the halftime show?

1121
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,480
Was he going with here's for Bad Bunny.

1122
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: Or now there? So my wife and son were traveling home.

1123
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,079
They had visited friends in Minnesota for a few days,

1124
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,719
and they came home on Sunday and the flight was late,

1125
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,199
was delayed, and so by the time they got in

1126
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,920
the house the game, I can't remember if the game

1127
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,480
was over or coming to the conclusion. First thing my

1128
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:24,519
son did when he came in the house, can I

1129
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:26,039
you know, because he had to go to he had

1130
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:27,920
school the next day. You know, he got home much

1131
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,039
living was supposed to. So this is Sunday night, he

1132
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:33,840
got school. First thing Monday morning. He begged, begg, beg, begged,

1133
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,239
and pleaded because I had the game on the DVR.

1134
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,559
Can I watch the Bad Bunny halftime show before I

1135
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:40,960
go to bed? So I was like, all right or whatever,

1136
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,840
So for fifteen minutes I let him watch the show

1137
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,639
that was He didn't give a shit game right, he

1138
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,679
wanted to watch Bad Bunny.

1139
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:48,079
Speaker 1: So which again, there are millions and millions that tuned

1140
00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:52,480
in of the teenage variety, everybody that wanted wanted to watch,

1141
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,719
only that that weren't watching the game and only tuned

1142
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:55,320
in for the half time.

1143
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,639
Speaker 2: I mean listen, not to get into like a political discord.

1144
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:01,360
I didn't understand why there was so much negativity in

1145
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,360
the first place. I watch it, I mean, is not

1146
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,599
my cup of teas in terms of the music.

1147
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:10,199
Speaker 1: Was our purposes. There was a quick little cameo there,

1148
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,920
and I saw it when it happened, And obviously I'm

1149
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,880
watching it at my sister and brother in law's with

1150
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,960
my wife with the trains at that super Bowl party

1151
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,639
and they don't know who these fighters are.

1152
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: But I got to go on a tangent before we

1153
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,440
get that. What ended up happening with the food.

1154
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Oh, this is true. As you said, I had to

1155
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,880
make a boss move and take charge. We had to

1156
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,800
get the sandwiches. We had to get the pizza because

1157
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,840
we were not going to do rabbit food and crackers

1158
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:34,920
at this Super Bowl party we went to. We ended

1159
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,840
up having pizza and sandwiches along with the charcouterie and

1160
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,320
the other stuff.

1161
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: All right, so the reason why we brought up the

1162
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,559
Super Bowl half.

1163
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: But I saw when I when he did it. It was

1164
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,840
a quick shot of him with two fighters, and I'm like,

1165
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,880
there's Xander Zaiyaz.

1166
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,199
Speaker 2: I saw it.

1167
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't recognize immediately Emiliano Vargas, but they

1168
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:51,519
were there.

1169
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,119
Speaker 2: That was really cool. So they had you know, if

1170
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:55,719
you watch the show, there was the whole thing about

1171
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,639
Puerto Rican culture and they did different things. Obviously, boxing

1172
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,480
is very is very uh important in the Puerto Rican

1173
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sporting culture. And there was a moment where he's walking

1174
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through the I guess it was a field or wherever

1175
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he was, and there was.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of people dressed up as the trees. He's

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walking through the trees and the plants and the whole thing.

1178
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Speaker 2: And he comes up to a point where you have

1179
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two fighters who are you know, they weren't actually sparring,

1180
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:20,639
but they were throwing punches, dressed in gloves and trunks,

1181
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:24,880
trunk gloves, and it was Xanderses who is Puerto Rican

1182
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,760
like Bad Buddy Uh, the unified junior middleweight champion from

1183
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,519
his victory over Boss Baru to pick up the other belt.

1184
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:34,719
A couple of weeks ago, you had Emiliano Vargas my

1185
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,880
twenty twenty five Prospect of the Year to find junior

1186
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,639
welterweight up and comer with top rank as isanders eyas undefeated,

1187
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:46,119
the son of the former junior midaway champion Fernando Vargas

1188
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:49,719
UH and that was a huge thing. Now apparently xanders

1189
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,760
Iis had known Bad Bunny before. He has some involvement

1190
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,280
in terms of like some they they helped do some

1191
00:54:56,679 --> 00:54:59,679
promotions with him, and I think some endorsement type stuff

1192
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,519
with the same management company. So we had met in before.

1193
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:05,519
But I think that's look when you can get two

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00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:09,320
young stars like that, two exciting young guys who are

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still on the upward of their career. Now granted, I

1196
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,480
mean not everybody's gonna know who they are, but no,

1197
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:15,280
they got a lot of attention after the fact of

1198
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,480
who were those boxers? I saw a thing about it

1199
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:22,360
on TMZ that's absolutely there. So anything the hell wasn't

1200
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,719
a bad thing for them, Yeah, absolutely so. And it

1201
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,840
was you know, what a great opportunity for for boxers

1202
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,519
to be featured, even for just a little bit in

1203
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:33,440
a halftime of a super Bowl where, like you said,

1204
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one hundred and twenty million people in the United States

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are watching at that time. I thought it was really

1206
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:40,360
cool and it was. It seemed like they both had

1207
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,039
a good time. And I'd rather have it be young

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00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,440
boxers getting the attention than in some other sport.

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Speaker 1: Put it like that, fair enough, We gave you a

1210
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,039
lot here again, good stuff. It's Valentine's weekend.

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Speaker 2: Oh I got to give the shout out also, by

1212
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the way, yes, and I remember this every year because

1213
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we just had on February eleven. It was the anniversary

1214
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:03,840
of the massive upset, the thirty sixth anniversary of Busting

1215
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,159
Bass not out like Tyson. But besides that anniversary, it

1216
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,639
happens to coincide with the birthday of my main man,

1217
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,679
Larry Merchant, so before we started taping this show today

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on today is Thursday. On Wednesday, Larry turned ninety five

1219
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:19,920
years old.

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00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: That's incredible.

1221
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to speak to him on

1222
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,119
his birthday, but I did call him on Thursday afternoon

1223
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:27,559
a little before we started tape today's show. Had a nice,

1224
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,760
like probably good, thirty thirty five minute chat with Larry

1225
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:33,760
doing great, still excited for the fights, still watching everything.

1226
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,280
He was telling me about I had gotten invited by

1227
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,079
his son in law to his birthday party. Obviously he

1228
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:39,199
was not able to make it to California for the party,

1229
00:56:39,199 --> 00:56:40,920
but he was telling me that, you know, his old

1230
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,480
boss at HBO said Abraham came to the party. Who

1231
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:46,440
flew out to see him. Sugar Ray Leonard, his longtime

1232
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,239
friend and compatriot from HBO who lives in the area,

1233
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,239
came to the party. So Ito had been cool to

1234
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,679
be there, but he had he had a very good

1235
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,199
good time with the friends and family. And you know what,

1236
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,480
at ninety five, still watching that fight, still has a

1237
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:00,519
pinions on all the fights, and it was just a

1238
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:01,719
wonderful to talk to him for a.

1239
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:05,679
Speaker 1: Bit shout out Larry Merchant from those HBO days for

1240
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,320
so many years with Barry Tompkins, Jim Lampley and Sugar

1241
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,079
Ray Leonard and the broadcast cruise and love It, Love

1242
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:16,239
It as he's intertwined with some of the great historical moments,

1243
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:21,840
including that Douglas win over Tyson, among others. Listen busy

1244
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,639
program here Valentine's weekend. So we will not have a

1245
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:29,440
recap podcast because there's not really much to recap because

1246
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,000
the fights on Sunday Night will be going on. Stay tuned,

1247
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,239
though there might be a little bonus on Sunday night.

1248
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,000
Coming off the weekend. You and I will obviously reconvene

1249
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,440
next week for the Barrios Garcia fighting. You just heard

1250
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,960
from Mario Barrios on this podcast in advance a fight

1251
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,079
week in Las Vegas. Other than that, you like to say,

1252
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:47,760
call your mother. Other than that, find the sweetheart in

1253
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,719
your life, your mother, your sister, your wife, your girlfriend,

1254
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:54,599
hopefully not your wife and your girlfriend. Take care of business.

1255
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:58,360
Peeps and savages for Valentine's this weekend because they put

1256
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,599
up with our crap the other fifty one weekends out

1257
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:02,719
of the year. Spend a little time with the luck one,

1258
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:08,079
the significant other, flowers, card, chocolate, dinner, phone call, all

1259
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:10,599
of it. We recommend all of it. Anything else, Dan

1260
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:11,639
Rayfield or are we good?

1261
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,239
Speaker 2: GJ. I think we're good.

1262
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,599
Speaker 1: All the damage that we could do here leading into

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00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:18,199
this weekend. Thank you for finding us Apple Spreaker, Spotify

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00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:20,599
on the pod feed you have been listening to The

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Big Fight Weekend Preview podcast