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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Teacher's New Teachers podcast, the podcast for

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teachers who don't want to just survive teaching but actually thrive.

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I'm Kim Lapri, and for those of you who don't

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know me or if this is your first time, welcome,

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I'm a middle school English teacher in California and this

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will be my twenty fourth year of teaching. Wow, it's

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been a while. Whether you're watching this on YouTube or

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listening on a podcast platform, I really appreciate it if

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you'd liked this episode and do some form of subscribing

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or following, depending on where you're at. And if you're

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able to like, you can on YouTube and Spotify. Could

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you leave me a comment letting me know how many

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years you've been teaching. Maybe you haven't started teaching yet,

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but either way, I'm always curious about the level of

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experience my audience has, so I would really appreciate it

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if you would do that. So at the time of

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this recording, Mini, you're heading back to work after winter break,

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and before I dive into this kind of heavy episode,

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as you're driving or maybe sitting in your classroom before

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students arrive, I want to start by sending some expectations. Clearly,

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this is not an episode meant to make you dread

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the year ahead. But it's also not an episode pretending

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that everything is fine and you can do it. It's

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about naming the factors that are shaping what we're seeing

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in our classrooms right now, especially you're on behavior attention,

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so teachers can stop internalizing these things as a personal

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failure and start responding in ways that are actually sustainable.

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I mean, there's a lot of loud content online about education,

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and there's a lot of different takes about how kits

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are worse, how attention spans are shot, and how no

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one cares anymore. But most of that framing has left

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a lot of teachers feeling frustrated. We feel blamed or

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quietly questioning whether we're actually cut out for this. And

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that's not what I want to do here. What I

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want to do is zoom out and look at the

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conditions students have been growing up and the conditions teachers

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have been teaching in, and then connect the dots between

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those conditions and what's showing up in our classrooms. Because

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my core belief about all of this is simple, even

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if it's uncomfortable and a little bit controversial, and here

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it is students are not broken. They are simply responding

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to the world they're growing up in. When I finally

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understood that, I didn't sit there and use that to

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excuse their behavior, but instead I stopped reacting to it

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blindly and stopped wax poetic about how great it used

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to be. And that shift and perspective alone has really

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helped me to make teaching feel more manageable. And my

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hope is that by the end of this episode you'll

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feel less alone and what you're teaching, and more clear

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headed about how you want to respond, both for your

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students and for yourself. So before we talk about you know,

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attention spans, behavior, parents, admin test scores, there's actually kind

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of like this bigger truth underneath all of it, and

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it's that students are not malfunctioning. They are behaving exactly

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like the adults are around them. When you look at

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what society, especially in America, looks like right now, what

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we're seeing in classrooms cut it's I mean, schools don't

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exist in a vacuum. Classrooms are a lot of times

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a mirror of culture we're raising kids in. I mean,

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you see this in different areas around the country. You

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see it in the ideologies and the mores. It doesn't

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matter which country that you live in, but you can

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tell that whatever culture they're growing up in, they're raised

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in in that area, it's reflected in how they act

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out in person. So the thing that's been really hard

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that I'm reading about and actually seeing locally is that

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behavior issues are more pervasive. Yes, we know that, but

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there's often a lack of accountability from students or parents.

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It's like, yes, the student is behaving badly in your class,

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parents are like eh, the students like whatever, And a

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lot of times there's no meaningful consequences from administration because

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they feel this need to make parents happy. And in

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a way I can understand why admin want to keep

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parents off their backs. I mean, remote learning pulled education

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into public view like never before. I mean, parents felt

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like they saw how school quote unquote really works in

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our classrooms, even though I mean that wasn't normal school.

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A lot of us were just like thrown into it.

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And there are a lot of teachers who don't have

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anything digital prepared to administer to the students through online learning,

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even in that second year. And so because parents got

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to peek into our classrooms just also created this wave

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of armchair experts and parents were definitely speaking disrespectfully about teachers,

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which when they do that at home, it bleeds directly

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into student attitudes and behavior. So there's a lot of

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finger pointing at public school education. There's a lot of

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criticism by people who don't understand what's actually happening inside

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our four walls. And that criticism doesn't stay inside staff

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meetings or policy discussions. It moves into people's homes and online,

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into group chats and comment sections and dinner tables. Students

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hear this, they absorb it, and they learn from it.

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And because when adults model this kind of cynicism and

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disrespect and basically content towards teachers and education, contempt towards

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each other as adults, I mean we've seen that, you know,

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kids don't just notice that they replicated it. We used

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to have these cultural norms where even if we thought

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something cruel, we policed ourselves, We discouraged open hatred, we

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shamed bigotry and any kind of dehumanization. That norm is gone.

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Adults openly say hateful, bigoted things to each other, and

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face to face people are being persecuted in America or

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detained based on the color of their skin. I mean

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violence is encouraged, it's celebrated or even excused, and rage

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is rewarded. Cruelty is what gets people to click or

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stay in an app, which of course feeds the algorithm,

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and basically uncivil behavior has become normalized. This is the

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future we as a society are raising to become our

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future leaders. I mean, students aren't broken, They're just paying

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attention and they see the way that the adults act

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as permission to act the same way. So here's the thing.

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Since students are watching how adults respond to stress and pressure,

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I wanted to share how I respond in my own classroom,

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and this is what has made teaching during this time

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more sustainable for me. So the first is structure, just

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a real emphasis on structure. I mean, we know that

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students need routine. If they can predict what will happen next,

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the nervous is sum can stay more regulated, so consistent.

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Lesson formats like doing a certain type of warm up

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at the start of every class, having certain activities happen

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in the same order almost each time. And as much

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as we might crave more freedom and creativity in our teaching.

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Like I get it. I find that doing the creative

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stuff within predictable containers of time or routines, or within

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the usual way of practicing skills that tends to keep

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students in check. So it's like they know that we're

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doing this type of activity and I can just be

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a little more creative by adding some more engaging elements

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to it. And because the expectations are consistent, when you

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have to address their behavior, it's no longer personal. It's

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also not negotiable and it's not debatable. It's basically the

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line of look, this is the routine, this is how

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we do this, and this is when we do this.

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You're not doing what's expected at this time, so these

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are the consequences. Another thing that I found that I

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have to do is explicitly teach focus as a skill.

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But when my students are like in the flow in

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the assignment, I call it when I see them sort

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of like you know, phasing or spacing out, or falling

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asleep or just struggling in general, and I tell them,

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you know, I know you're bored. I know this is hard,

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but just push through for three more minutes. And that

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three more minutes gives them an end point and three

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minute mark, give or take. I switch gears, and that

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usually involves having them share what they wrote with their

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group and then make it more interesting. Sometimes I'll mix

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up the order in which they read to their group

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members by things like you're going to share an order

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of shortest the longest hair, things like that. So it's

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just having them change gears, even just for a little bit,

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even for just sixty seconds, really helps in terms of

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teaching them how to focus for a certain amount of

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time and put their all into that amount of time.

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But I also normalize bored on. I'll even tell them, yeah,

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you know what, I know, this part's boring, but you

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need to learn how to do it because we're gonna

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be doing X y Z next week, so just lock

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in and you'll struggle less later. Teaching in shorter chunks

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also really helps. Sometimes I found that you actually have

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to plan these or set a timery for yourself, because

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you know, you can get carried away when we're in

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the middle of something. Otherwise, even something that we think

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should be fun, like grouperg it can kind of start

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to go off the rails because they've been doing it

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for a long period of time and they haven't switched modes.

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So if you can just like plan some shorter chunks

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or just some ways to break it up, I found

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that that has really helped. This is probably something that

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a lot of you are already doing, but if you're

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finding it harder and harder to maintain the intention of students,

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you might actually have to do it more. I found

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that building in movement and reset moments definitely helps get

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them back on track. So if I can catch them

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before I completely lose them, then that's even better. So

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you've got to build it in. So something is simple

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as having students stack all other papers and their group

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together and then having them nominate someone to bring it

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to you. That alone is a reset just anytime that

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they're just switching gears. Also, if you use timers or

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like I said, give them a timeframe, if you refer

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visually to the agenda, maybe you have it written on

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the board. That also helps them manage their mental load

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and also holds you accountable to ensure that they get

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that kind of like mental and physical break that they need.

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Something else that I've always done, but have been more

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intentional is giving grace without lowering the bar. So I

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started to integrate low stakes activities into my class, and

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this allows me to offer emotional support without removing the rigor. So,

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for example, I decided that I was not going to

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grade the warm ups, and you might think, well, then

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students won't do it. They will if you build in

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ways to check for understanding. But basically I use the

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warm ups as an opportunity to few to clear up

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misunderstandings and confusion and maybe even allowing students to get

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some time to just like get mentally set for your class.

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I found this to be really important for my students

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with ADHD, who need a few minutes just to be

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fully present. So maybe they're not really getting the most

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out of your warm up during that time, but what

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you're getting out of it is a student who is

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more present and ready to learn because they had those

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few moments to get set. During that warm up. I'll

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engage them with a mix of something fun like we

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do would you rather, which the kids I think is

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great because to get to talk about their opinion and

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maybe add something funny, and then I also balance it

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with sentence correction, and so both ways they're still practicing

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skills and concepts I teach, well, they get to be

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silly for a bit. And I also find that encouraging

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retakes and revisions helps students take risks, especially whether they're

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not confident about an assignment. And this goes with normalizing

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mistakes too. We want your students to make mistakes, but

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it only works if you know how to tell them

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that they may have mistake without humiliating them. So for me,

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some things that I'll do if they answer in correctly,

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I'll just make this like eke face, like E say

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are you sure? Oh no? Or another thing I'll say,

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you know, actually, if I had said X, Y and Z,

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then you'd definitely be right, So I'm not calling them

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out for being wrong. I'm saying, wow, in this other instance,

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that was the correct answer. Or another way i'll say

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it is, I can see why you got that because X,

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Y and Z. But you're close you want to try again.

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And if I'm randomly calling on students and one student

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they're like really struggling, then all of a sudden, I'll

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stop and I'll say okay, everyone, thirty seconds in your

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group discuss what you think the correct answer is that

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gives that student time to actually check if they're right

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or to check why they're wrong, to get the correct answer,

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and then I call on them again and they of

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course say the correct answer, and it build confidence and

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it builds trust in me. So those are just some

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of the things that I do to build the relationships

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with my students and build trust and as a result,

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I get more buy in. Another thing that I think

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is really important during this time it's just so hard,

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is to find at least one other teacher who you

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can invent to. It would be awesome if they were

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in your school, but if not, I get it. But

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you want to be choosy. You want to make sure

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that when you find someone with whom you convent, theyre's

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someone who actually listens and not someone who is going

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to gaslight you or try to want up you how

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like they had it worse. Yes, convent to you too,

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but there's just something about finding someone who will actively listen,

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and it makes all the difference when you have that

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difficult student, that difficult parent, difficult admin, you know what

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I mean. It's just really important to find those people

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who you can always rely on and who you can

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also provide the same kind of support. And if you

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don't have anyone in your school, maybe you're new, or

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maybe the environment's toxic. Then online forums like Reddit, Facebook groups,

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they can be really helpful, but just be careful to

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not let it become like this echo chamber for frustration.

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You will be validated, but sometimes it can actually just

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like amplify more negativity than provide perspective. So I don't

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want to end this by telling you how to feel

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about teaching right now. I just want to be clear

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about this. What you're seeing in your classroom, it makes

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sense when you look at the conditions that the students

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and all of adults, including us, have been living in.

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My intention of this reframe is to assure you that

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you don't need to fix the system or absorb every

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behavior as a personal failure, because I see a lot

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of teachers who just think that these problems reflect how

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they are as a teacher. Especially hoping that you'll see

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that the majority of the negative behaviors you're seeing aren't

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actually personal, even if they hurt. I recently had a

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student come up to me with a smirk, maybe even

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a sneer, and say, I heard from other students that

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you're the worst teacher. She just had that like ruk

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assault type of attitude, and I smiled sympathetically. I didn't

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miss a beat and I said, Oh, that's too bad

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for them, And inside my initial reaction was to be offended,

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but then I remembered my interactions with their parents, and

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I knew that the student was just parroting, mimicking that parent.

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So a lot of it isn't personally now, knowing all

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this isn't going to necessarily make it feel better what's happening.

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But honestly, all we can do is make choices that

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keep our classrooms steady and our nervous systems intact and regulated,

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especially if you want to make it in this profession

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until we retire. That's what's going to happen for me.

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I'm sticking it up. I still love it, but this

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is how I managed to still love it despite everything

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going on. So I'd love to hear your opinions on

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this topic as well as your experiences. I mean, what's

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happening for you in your classrooms, both good and bad,

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because I know it's not bad everywhere, but let's share

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and help each other out. So be sure to leave

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a comment if you can thank you for being here

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with me today and I will see you next time.

