1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,599 We're honored and delighted today to have with us harmeet Dylan, 3 00:00:06,639 --> 00:00:09,919 who is the former California GOP chair. She is the 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,640 founder of the Dylan Law Group. She helped launch the 5 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,519 Center for American Liberty, and she is now of course 6 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:19,199 serving as US Assistant ag for the Civil Rights Division. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,039 Speaker 2: And so you have been busy. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,519 Speaker 1: And we were among the many proponents of you replacing 9 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:30,320 Roni McDaniel back in the day in twenty twenty three, 10 00:00:30,359 --> 00:00:33,159 but it kind of seems like maybe you've ended up 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,759 exactly where you're supposed to be, and we're wondering if 12 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:36,719 you feel that way too. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: Well, Look, I do believe that God has a plan 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,560 for all of us, and so that did not work 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,079 out the way I wanted it at the time. But 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,920 I'm very happy doing this job for the President and 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,159 is a tremendous honor of my life to be able 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:49,600 to do this. 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Well, we're glad to have you in that role, for sure, totally. 20 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: So some of the things that I know that you've 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,479 been working on. One of the things that we are 22 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:01,280 adamant about talking about on our show is fighting anti 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,840 semitism on campuses and just fighting anti semitism in general. 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,239 We see a big surge of that happening in America. 25 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:11,519 I don't understand why. Actually I'm not really sure why 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,760 that's happening, but we see a lot of it concentrated 27 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:16,959 on college campuses. Can you speak to that a little 28 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,480 bit about the fight against that and how and why 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,719 you think it is happening across the. 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: First of all, well, that's a good, great question. It 31 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:27,239 is one of our top focuses. So, first of all, 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,680 our college campuses, even dating back to when I was 33 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,400 in college a very long time ago, have been hot 34 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,799 beds of radicalism and extremism. 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: And you know, pick. 36 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:38,079 Speaker 3: The issue du jour, and when I was in school, 37 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:44,760 it was liberation theology and El Salvador and Nicaragua, or apartheid, 38 00:01:45,599 --> 00:01:47,439 and there have been many other issues over your black 39 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:48,439 lives matters, you name it. 40 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Whatever the cause du. 41 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: Jour is, the liberal campuses are useful idiots for soaking 42 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:58,599 that up and propagating it. The different situation I believe 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,560 with the anti semitism is is that I believe it 44 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:06,159 has been accelerated by foreign influence and foreign money. So 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,960 a lot of these so called student groups that are 46 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:15,280 perpetuating the blockages and the encampments and the no go 47 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:20,360 zones for Jewish students at UCLA and other institutions. They 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,080 appear to have some ties to foreign funding. I'll leave 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,159 it at that, because that's something that we're investigating. But 50 00:02:26,599 --> 00:02:28,639 I think that is one thing that's a little different. 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,439 And of course I think it is also the case 52 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:34,159 that there's some organic anti semitism going on here. 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: It's ugly, it is kind of shocking in a way. 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,159 Speaker 3: Some prominent voices are perpetuating false narratives about Israel and 55 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:45,319 about Jews, and we have a zero tolerance policy for 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,840 it in this administration. Our president is the strongest president 57 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,080 in history on these anti Semitism issues. I speak to 58 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,599 Jewish leaders every day in my office, and Jewish leaders 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,039 and Jewish students are Americans, and they're idle to equal 60 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,120 protection and safety on our campuses, on our streets, in 61 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:07,400 their houses of worship, even in prisons wherever they are. 62 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:09,479 Speaker 2: They're entitled to the equal protection of the laws. 63 00:03:09,479 --> 00:03:11,879 Speaker 3: And we're ensuring that's the case in this Civil Rights 64 00:03:11,879 --> 00:03:14,120 Division under our Attorney General, Pam BONDI. 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,439 Speaker 1: Well, and you part of your role too has been 66 00:03:18,479 --> 00:03:21,479 to fight against DEI. I mean, obviously that's been a 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,080 huge issue for Donald Trump too, and he's put as 68 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:26,759 much of a stop to that at the college level 69 00:03:26,759 --> 00:03:30,120 and just across businesses as he can. But what do 70 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:32,719 you do because you know, we see the videos all 71 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:36,120 the time, the undercover videos of various schools and various 72 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:40,879 business departments trying to hide and get around that initiative 73 00:03:41,039 --> 00:03:45,240 by renaming the departments or renaming the titles of. 74 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 5: The people that work in DEI. 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: And they're so brazen about, you know, getting around the 76 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,680 system and trying to fool everybody. How does your department 77 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:59,000 how do you attack that knowing that they're sneaking around 78 00:03:59,080 --> 00:03:59,639 the rules. 79 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm getting mocked by the left a little 80 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,680 bit for this analogy, but you have to think of 81 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,080 it similar to the desegregation movement. When Brown versus Board 82 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,479 of Education came down from the United States Supreme Court 83 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,879 using a legal theory that hadn't been previously applied, it 84 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:16,600 was a sea change for millions of people in this 85 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,160 country who had gotten used to a system of racism. 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,319 They could put black people in separate classes and separate 87 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,120 water fountains and not let them meet at the lunch 88 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,040 counter and make them sit at the. 89 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: Back of the bus. 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: There was little literally industries around that, and governors didn't 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,160 want to go along with it. Not just corporation heads, 92 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:36,560 literally they were governors. There's Oraville, Faubus and other people 93 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:37,959 like that. They didn't want to go along with this, 94 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,959 and you know, the President had used route force to 95 00:04:40,959 --> 00:04:43,399 make it happen throughout the country. And so we're almost 96 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:46,879 in a similar situation here because for decades it has 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,639 been the law of the land under Supreme Court precedent, 98 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,720 and you know, pressure campaigns from woke corporations and all 99 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:58,040 these interest groups that you had to discriminate using quotas 100 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:02,279 in order to comply with federal law. Federal government still 101 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:05,759 collects data under or at least on the books. There's 102 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:08,399 a law that if you're a company over five hundred people, 103 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:11,079 you have to provide your race data to the EEOC, 104 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:14,600 so the EEOC can contain a database against you to 105 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,959 bring a case against you at any given time. So 106 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:19,759 the culture has to change and people haven't gotten used 107 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:23,800 to that. They're literally thousands of diversity officers and people 108 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,079 who went to college to become race hustlers. 109 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,439 Speaker 2: Quite frankly, it's a whole profession. 110 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: Their job is now over, so you can imagine why 111 00:05:32,079 --> 00:05:35,279 those people are fighting for their careers. They're going to 112 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:38,759 have to learn to code, or learn AI or something, 113 00:05:38,959 --> 00:05:41,720 or learn how to install solar panels. 114 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, but their job is over. 115 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,439 Speaker 3: And so those people I feel for them in a 116 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:49,759 way theoretically, but I feel more strongly for the millions 117 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:52,600 of Americans who've had their rights denied to them, the 118 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,639 millions of young people who are told that they are 119 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,120 not qualified for that job because they're white, or they're 120 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,240 male or some other other straight This is ridiculous. It's 121 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,399 aut American, and we're putting a stop to it. So 122 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:09,160 it's it's just chipping away at it. It's whack them all. 123 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,920 We're making some big examples of some big institutions, and 124 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,279 hopefully everyone gets the message out of that. I've literally 125 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,839 only been in office for a little over five months now, 126 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:21,480 and we've made tremendous change already, and so by the 127 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:25,480 time we're done, DEI will d I E. 128 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 5: I love that. I absolutely love that so much as 129 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,120 it should that's. 130 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 4: That's the way to be curious, and you know, we 131 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:35,519 like to look forward because we think that this administration 132 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,319 is doing so many wonderful things to get us back 133 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:43,000 on track, because man, we lived through some crazy years, right, 134 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,879 and some of those years were COVID, Like some of 135 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,040 the COVID years, some of the mandates and things that 136 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,120 happened to us, and the lies we were told, things 137 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,240 like that, And I feel like a lot of times, 138 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:53,759 and I don't think I'm alone in this, but I 139 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,639 feel like a lot of times some of the stuff 140 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,720 is just brushed into the rug. Some of the things 141 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,000 that happened, some of the things we were told, people 142 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,839 who lost their jobs because they weren't willing to do 143 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,800 certain things right. So I was just wondering, like, if 144 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,639 you could just speak to some of the accountability, or 145 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:11,279 will we see some accountability for some of the things 146 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:14,439 that were done to Americans during that time. 147 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,199 Speaker 3: Well, you're talking to the lawyer who filed more lawsuits 148 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,519 against governors than any other lawyer in the United States 149 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:22,000 to challenge COVID restrictions. 150 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: And I lost most of those cases. 151 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,959 Speaker 3: I'll never forget those and I want some of those 152 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,639 cases in the United States Supreme Court against the State 153 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:32,519 of California and Gavin Newsom shut down our beaches, Gavin 154 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,959 Newsom put sand in skate parks. 155 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:36,879 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom didn't allow. 156 00:07:36,959 --> 00:07:40,879 Speaker 3: People to visit their elderly disabled children in homes, and 157 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:44,720 Gavin Newsom allowed old people to die alone. And Gavin 158 00:07:44,759 --> 00:07:47,879 Newsom now is trolling the president with his stupid pr account, 159 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:50,879 and we've just moved on to focusing on that. I'm 160 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:52,879 not going to forget the lives he destroyed, and either 161 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,040 does this Department of Justice. When cases are still available 162 00:07:56,079 --> 00:07:59,079 on the docket, like the case of the coach in 163 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,439 Washington State who was fired from his job because he's 164 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,399 Catholic and he refused to take the vaccine. My office 165 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:07,639 has filed an amicus brief in that appeal in the 166 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,839 Ninth Circuit. And as people ask us to step into 167 00:08:10,839 --> 00:08:13,199 these cases and stand up for the rights, particularly if 168 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:15,759 they're religious in nature, because they have greater rights under 169 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:16,439 the Constitution. 170 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: But I'm not leaving it at that. 171 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: When members of Congress asked me, Harmeet, what can we 172 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:23,000 do to make your job easier? I say, you need 173 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,560 to legislatively overrule Jacobson versus Massachusetts. 174 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,879 Speaker 2: The United States Supreme Court. 175 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:30,319 Speaker 3: President that all of the judges who ruled against me 176 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:33,279 cited to say that under an emergency, where a governor 177 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:36,320 declares an emergency, you have no rights, You have no 178 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,360 constitutional scrutiny to this governor's misconduct. 179 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:40,799 Speaker 2: He can close your beaches. He can. 180 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: By the way, the governor actually opened the beaches as 181 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,639 soon as I filed a lawsuit, so we never got 182 00:08:44,639 --> 00:08:45,440 to test that theory. 183 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: He knew he was in the wrong. 184 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: And the governor is making noises about an emergency with 185 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:53,279 regard to this voting thing he's doing. He's doing violence 186 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,399 to the California Constitution. I lived in California for twenty 187 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:59,559 five years and he's violating the California Constitution and the 188 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,600 CALIFORNI your voter's rights with his little stunt. And he 189 00:09:02,919 --> 00:09:05,679 may use emergency powers to get it through. So pay 190 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,720 attention to that. It is not free to declare an emergency. 191 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,600 And we Americans need to stand up for our rights 192 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,679 and not be conned into this concept that governors can 193 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,960 suspend our fundamental rights with their one word emergency. 194 00:09:17,879 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Well, and I love seeing I mean because you know 195 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:21,840 we follow you on Twitter and we see a lot 196 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:25,759 where you use the acronym that we also love very much. 197 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 5: FA and FO. 198 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: So I see that a lot on your feet, and 199 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,720 I know our audience and we too, as Daisy mentioned, 200 00:09:34,759 --> 00:09:39,639 we are hungry for accountability. So without naming names because 201 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,399 we know you can't do that, but like, do you 202 00:09:42,639 --> 00:09:46,879 sense do you anticipate that we will finally see some 203 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:51,799 people in orange jumpsuits that will feed our hungry audiences 204 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,080 desire for that accountabile at. 205 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,639 Speaker 4: Least maybe like before the end of President Trump's term, 206 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:58,600 you know what I mean? Like that it's something to 207 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,679 look forward to you maybe even a couple of Christmas 208 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,840 presents along the way, that would be great. 209 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is, I can't tell you what I know. 210 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: I will tell you that the Attorney General, who I 211 00:10:10,279 --> 00:10:15,200 speak with and meet with regularly shares your zeal for this. 212 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: Kind of an outcome. So do my friends at the FBI. 213 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:22,919 Speaker 3: Our new deputy co Director of the FBI, Andrew Bailey, 214 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:29,120 the former Attorney General of Missouri, is a tremendous resource here. 215 00:10:29,159 --> 00:10:31,320 He's going to be amazing in that job. He's a 216 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:33,600 lawyer who gets it and goes after the bad guys. 217 00:10:34,159 --> 00:10:37,279 And so I'm really excited about that development here in Washington. 218 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:39,639 So I think the answer is yes, we certainly want that. 219 00:10:40,279 --> 00:10:44,360 I think that the American people deserve accountability. But there's 220 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:46,879 so many different things. Like you mentioned COVID. COVID is 221 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:48,679 now kind of far in the rear view mirror. I 222 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,879 haven't forgotten that a lot of people have moved on 223 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:52,840 from it. We have great people at the NIH and 224 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,399 HHS who I think are going to make some changes there. 225 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,240 They'll protect Americans. But American doctors are still calling for 226 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:01,399 the COVID vaccine for infants. 227 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: No other civilized country in the world does that. That's insane. 228 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,519 Speaker 3: Americans need a medical system here, but we're going after 229 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:10,399 the medical school education. So I'm going after in a 230 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,399 number of different ways. But the Russia collusion hoax is 231 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,080 a huge issue and target, and I know people are 232 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,440 working on that. 233 00:11:19,639 --> 00:11:21,039 Speaker 2: We'll have to see how that unfolds. 234 00:11:21,039 --> 00:11:23,399 Speaker 3: There's all kinds of pardons and immunities and things that 235 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,000 have happened by the prior administration. And you know, there's 236 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,440 a law fair that has occurred. I have friends who've 237 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,720 had their law licenses suspended for just simply giving advice 238 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,720 to the president. That's outrageous, and you know they're coming. 239 00:11:38,919 --> 00:11:41,399 The Left is coming for everybody and so you know, 240 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,360 at a certain point there needs to be accountability and 241 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,279 vengeance really for the people who did that. Now is 242 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,200 that going to come from the Department of Justice? I 243 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,320 can't tell you that, but I can tell you that 244 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,240 I think justice requires accountability. 245 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: Well, we love to hear that for sure. 246 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:58,279 Speaker 1: And there's now there's this new, this wild new case 247 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,960 out of Louden County, Virginia, where there is this trans 248 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,919 girl in a boy's bathroom. And now somehow the boys 249 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,720 are the ones that are in trouble. What is up 250 00:12:08,799 --> 00:12:11,879 with Loudun County. It seems like they're always the seat. Yeah, 251 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:13,960 all of this trans craziness. 252 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean loud And County is one of five 253 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,279 northern of Virginia counties that are in this Trump derangement 254 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,159 syndrome slash denialism where they're like the Dixie Krats. They're 255 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:29,000 simply going to violate federal law. It is federal law 256 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,240 right now that you cannot do this. You cannot allow 257 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:37,440 children of either sex to violate the privacy rights of 258 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,279 the other, take their trophies, what have you. 259 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: Mostly it's the other way. But boys have rights too. 260 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,799 Speaker 3: And I think this is a developing fact pattern but 261 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,080 I understand from the news that there were actually three 262 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,600 boys who complained. One is Muslim and the other two 263 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:53,639 were not Muslim. The Muslim child, whose family is equally 264 00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:57,039 protesting like the others, was not punished, and the other 265 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,200 two children are punished. And this is insane. This will 266 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,000 not stand. The Department of Justice is following it closely. 267 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:05,799 I'd open up an investigation into this fact pattern even 268 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:09,159 before the suspensions were announced, and I think. 269 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: People should just stay tuned. 270 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: I believe there is going to be legal action of 271 00:13:12,039 --> 00:13:16,879 some kind regarding this outrageous misconduct by these school officials. 272 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,240 Every boy in America deserves the same rights to privacy 273 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:21,440 as I believe every girl does. 274 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 5: That's amazing that that needs to be said. All right, 275 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,559 I know this. 276 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: Trans girl came into the bathroom videotaping, Come. 277 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: On now, right, I should be for our locker rooms 278 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,559 to not I mean, no one wants to see that. 279 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:37,200 In my vision, certainly when I'm working out, no one 280 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:37,879 needs to see that. 281 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 5: So yeah, nobody does need to see that. 282 00:13:40,159 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: I feel like common sense is starting to make I 283 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,600 would hope it's making a comeback. I think just with 284 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,879 the election of Trump, we're starting to see that, and 285 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:50,799 we're starting to see that, you know, conservatism is even 286 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:54,000 kind of making it a resurgence. And the reason I 287 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:55,679 say that is because it used to be, because we've 288 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,919 been doing this for seventeen years and so much in 289 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,559 the past people would be like, I agree with everything 290 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,679 you say, but I'm afraid to say it out loud. 291 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,519 And I think more and more people are starting to 292 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,919 be more confident and saying I'm a conservative because these 293 00:14:08,919 --> 00:14:12,480 people over here are just flipping crazy, you know, right, So, 294 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,080 and that is refreshing, and I'm so glad to see that. 295 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,080 You know, we have normal people like you who are 296 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,960 in the offices that they're in, doing the things that 297 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,919 you're doing and fighting for the American people. It's just 298 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,120 it's super refreshing to see that. 299 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm one of many. 300 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:31,679 Speaker 3: I've gotten lawyers to come from all over the country 301 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,159 to help us, and in prior administrations, the Civil Rights Division, 302 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,279 Republican side was kind of a sleepy backwater. Nothing ever changed. 303 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:42,440 It was like a place where nothing ever happened. And 304 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:45,600 you know, we had lawyers who've been here for over 305 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:49,200 fifty years who quit when I joined this administration. 306 00:14:49,679 --> 00:14:52,919 Speaker 2: Wow, you know, I mean It's about time, folks. Yeah, 307 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,480 it's about the laws have changed. 308 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,159 Speaker 3: The world has changed, our legal approach needs to change, 309 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:00,480 and that's happening this under this Attorney General. 310 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, gosh, yeah, I mean yeah, just with the amount 311 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,200 of desperation that people have to finally clean house, to 312 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,080 drain the swamp, and to see that happening, to hear 313 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:14,519 that you're working on the cases, to watch your Twitter. 314 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:16,399 Speaker 5: Feed when you say FAFO, it. 315 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: Gives us all tremendous optimism about the future, especially because 316 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,919 Democrats right now are so hell bent on focusing all 317 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,399 their attention on the worst people, whether it's criminals, whether 318 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,039 it's illegal aliens, whether it's I mean, they're always on 319 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,480 the side of who they feel is oppressed, but who 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,399 are actually the oppressors. And the most recent example, of course, 321 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,519 is right there in your neck of the woods in DC. 322 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:44,960 Now there's this, you know, this thirty day edition of 323 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:47,399 National Guard troops to help police the city because of 324 00:15:47,399 --> 00:15:49,120 the crime has been so bad. And now we've seen 325 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,679 this absolute tumble in crime rates in d C. 326 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 5: Is it true? 327 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,039 Speaker 1: Because we've heard that there are lots of Democrats in 328 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:02,320 DC who are secretly all about the addition of the 329 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:03,240 National Guard troops. 330 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,559 Speaker 5: They want to be safe, is that true? 331 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: And they're just afraid to go against the Democrat grain 332 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:12,960 right now, which is apparently pro pro crime. 333 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: Or to say that they're for President Trump, because God 334 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:16,840 forbid they say that out loud. 335 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:17,759 Speaker 5: Yeah. 336 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:21,919 Speaker 2: Well, look, Maya, I'm a new and reluctant resident of 337 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,679 the District of Columbia. My job was here and I. 338 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:27,399 Speaker 3: Figured I'm going to be spending really long hours in 339 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,039 the office. I didn't want to commute, so against the 340 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,120 advice of many friends and said go live in Virginia. 341 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:35,720 I'm living in DC and it's been interesting. But I 342 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:37,679 come from San Francisco, so my head's on a swivel 343 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,639 all day long. I'm not phased by street crime or 344 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:43,000 what have you. It is much worse in DC than 345 00:16:43,039 --> 00:16:43,759 in San Francisco. 346 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 5: Wow, it is. 347 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:48,279 Speaker 3: In San Francisco there are places where you could walk 348 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,279 and feel safe and the crime was limited to certain kinds. 349 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:54,679 There could be random shootings in DC and you could 350 00:16:54,759 --> 00:16:58,399 die just being on the wrong corner. That's not the 351 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,360 case in San Francisco. So so that's the baseline. But 352 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,920 you asked the question about Democrats. I don't know the 353 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,839 political most people are not that political really in their 354 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,039 day to day lives. We think of those of us 355 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:13,839 who are in politics, think of Republican and Democrat. I 356 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:16,119 would say the average resident in DC, if you were 357 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,319 to ask them or was a political is thrilled by 358 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,079 the likelihood of their getting randomly shot or carjacked, or 359 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,960 much by the homeless person going down. Who wouldn't They're 360 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,599 not crazy. They love their children, they love their cars, 361 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,880 they love their lives, and no one wants to get shot. 362 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: And so I think that is the case. 363 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: The only people who are loudly complaining, I mean, I 364 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,799 think Steven Miller made the point very brutally this week 365 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,640 with the vice president at Union Station saying it's a 366 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,960 bunch of old white hippies who are complaining about this 367 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:50,240 and not the actual residents of DC. 368 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: They're not complaining. 369 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I have a neighbor who's put up 370 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,400 a sign that is complaining. And I won't say they're old, 371 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,839 but they do fall into one of the other categories. 372 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 5: But they're not young either. 373 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not. Yeah. 374 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,279 Speaker 3: I mean, so they're in the resistan mode on everything. 375 00:18:09,319 --> 00:18:10,960 Every time I do something in the news, my neighbors 376 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:11,960 put up a sign opposing it. 377 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,839 Speaker 2: It's kind of insane anyway. 378 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 3: But for the most part, I think people are very happy. 379 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,200 You've seen that man on the street, woman on the 380 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,799 street interview. Whatever their background is, they you know, might 381 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:25,039 be any color, any religion, They're like, yeah, thank goodness. 382 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:27,519 And frankly, what we're hearing is the residents of other 383 00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:29,799 cities all over America saying, gosh, I wish the president 384 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:33,359 could nationalize my city and send a National guard and 385 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,880 clean things up over there. I mean Oakland, California could 386 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,319 use a little bit of a you know, clean out, 387 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,559 and some other cities as well. 388 00:18:40,599 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: The President has tweeted about. 389 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: But I think ultimately, as I've said before, it's really 390 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,799 up to Americans to demand better government, and that starts 391 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:52,359 at the local level. And too many cities and states 392 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,279 have gotten rid of strong laws that would allow them 393 00:18:54,319 --> 00:18:57,319 to punish the predators, and then the prosecutors they elect 394 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,839 don't want to even force those weak laws. So this 395 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,400 is really a local problem. It's not a federal problem. 396 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,880 It's only then in DC the President can do something 397 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,200 about it. That's unique, and the rest of the country 398 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,559 we have to take care of ourselves. 399 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happens at the end of the thirty days, 400 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,559 like what will the process be after that. 401 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: I think the President's going to take a look at 402 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,279 what's happening and whether this needs to continue in at 403 00:19:19,279 --> 00:19:21,839 what level, Probably may not need to be the same level. 404 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,599 The other thing is, I want to tell you people 405 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,359 like to hate on the police and the police chief here. 406 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,720 I don't think anyone goes into policing wanting criminals to 407 00:19:31,799 --> 00:19:35,000 run rampant in their city. They wouldn't have put their 408 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:37,519 lives at risk every day to get shot and all 409 00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:40,200 the risks. I really respect the police, and I think 410 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,559 once they feel empowered and it becomes politically palatable to 411 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,839 be a good cop, a hard cop, and prosecution is 412 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:52,519 applauded by the public, I think things will change organically. 413 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,279 Speaker 4: I hope it becomes a recruiting tool for police across 414 00:19:56,319 --> 00:20:00,480 the country. I hope just by empowering those people and 415 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000 saying you know what your job matters, and we actually 416 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:07,039 we back you, rather than you know, dissing you like 417 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,640 so many presidents pass. I think that hopefully it will 418 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,920 it'll draw people to that profession, and that would to 419 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,839 me at least, I think that that is a good thing, 420 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,559 because I mean there are people that I know that 421 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:22,039 are cops that of course they don't go into it 422 00:20:22,079 --> 00:20:26,319 to want criminals running running things they go into because 423 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:29,920 they're usually they're servant minded. You know, these are good 424 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,400 people that love their families, they love their communities, and 425 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,160 they want them to be safe, just like the rest 426 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,759 of us. So hopefully it'll just be a recruiting tool right. 427 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: Well. Absolutely. 428 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 3: I mean several of my colleagues who came from all 429 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,039 over the country to work in the leadership of the 430 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:44,200 Civil Rights Division, they live in the district as well. 431 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,400 One of them was a victim of a violent crime 432 00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:49,440 in near our office as the Department of Justice. So 433 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,119 you know, a lot of people's lives are affected by this, 434 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:54,240 and I for one, I think all of our colleagues 435 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:56,279 at DJ are very grateful to the President for taking 436 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:00,440 this leadership. Yeah, grateful to Jeanine Piro for her work 437 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:03,759 arresting people right left and center and smacking heads, and 438 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,839 you know for the Attorney General and her leadership too. 439 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,599 Speaker 2: She really has gone out of her way. 440 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: She's meeting with the police and the deputies and the 441 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:14,440 National Guard folks and praising them for their work and 442 00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:16,880 we need to thank our cops and make them feel 443 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,079 appreciated because they do a tremendous job to keep. 444 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: Us all safe. 445 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:20,319 Speaker 5: Totally. 446 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,759 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 447 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:24,759 Speaker 1: One of the things I've noticed about your Twitter feed 448 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:28,160 is that you are You share a little bit of 449 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,359 your personality and your personal life to some degree on Twitter. 450 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,599 And I know you lost, unfortunately your husband last year. 451 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,000 What have you learned about grief and how might you 452 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,720 counsel someone going through a similar loss. 453 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you have to try to keep perspective, 454 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,680 and if you have a baseline of faith, that's helpful. 455 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:51,000 But it's a very hard thing to lose the most 456 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,160 important person in your life. And luckily we had a 457 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,400 wonderful many years together, sixteen years together, and so I 458 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,880 actually hear voice all the time giving me advice as 459 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,599 I faced challenges in my job, and I keep those 460 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:08,240 memories alive and I try to live according to, you know, 461 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:12,640 the life we had, And so that's important, maintaining perspective. 462 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:14,480 You know, God has a plan for all of us, 463 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:17,599 and so there's a purpose and there's an end of 464 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,200 the tunnel at some point, you know. And so I 465 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,960 won't say it's gotten easy, but it is less painful. 466 00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:27,480 As the days goes on, the memories are always going 467 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:29,559 to be there and they're amazing. You know, I lost 468 00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:31,920 my dad six weeks after that, so you know, dad 469 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,079 died too, and so I'm lucky to be closer to 470 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:36,000 my mom. She lives in North Carolina. We see each 471 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:39,400 other regularly, and so you know, we're going through it together. 472 00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:44,839 And you know, that baseline of faith is critically important. 473 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:47,319 And I also am blessed over the years with a 474 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,640 tremendous number of friends and family who care about me, 475 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:52,960 check in on me, friends drop by in DC and 476 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,039 come see me, and you know, we try to do 477 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:55,880 things and be active. 478 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: So that's part of my faith as well as there 479 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,400 isn't really really a morning period. 480 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: You're supposed to live your life and honor that person 481 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,039 in your life every day, and so yes, I try 482 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:09,079 to keep busy with my cooking, my gardening, my knitting 483 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,359 and try to enjoy life as much as I can. 484 00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:16,799 Speaker 4: I was going to ask you actually about your your knitting, 485 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:22,200 because you knit some six sweaters out there, really beautiful stuff. 486 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,400 I tried knitting for like five minutes and I'm like, 487 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,240 I can't do this. 488 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 5: I'm never good. Do you do you sell that stuff? 489 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:30,039 I mean, do you like you don't have it? Or 490 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,960 is it just for you? Is it just for family? 491 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,480 What about all about? I wanted you. 492 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: See the economics of a sweater that I would make 493 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,720 for my husband. The wool costs about three hundred dollars 494 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:45,200 if you're using good woolf if it were the well. 495 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,119 I actually started knitting for him because he wanted We 496 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,480 lived in Sonoma and there were sheep there. 497 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: He wanted a sweater made of those sheep, and. 498 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: It was like we were really wet or newly together, 499 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:56,680 and I wanted to impress him. 500 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: So I wanted the sheep, and I sent it to a. 501 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: Wool mill and I had it processed, and that was 502 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:06,759 a very expensive sweater. But you know, I get paid 503 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,359 by the hour as a lawyer before I came to 504 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,759 this job. And if you look at the number of 505 00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:12,319 billable hours that go into making a sweater for a man, 506 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,920 a complicated sweater, it's about one hundred hours. 507 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,279 Speaker 2: Oh so my husband used to brag. 508 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,599 Speaker 3: That his sweaters were the value of a g wagon 509 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:21,799 or my NBMW. 510 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,839 Speaker 2: So that's the economics of it. So the answer is, no, 511 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,599 I don't sell my dewere. 512 00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: Now. Last year I made hats for about thirty friends 513 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:31,880 and I gave them to my friends, and so those 514 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,160 are That's what I'm planning to do again this year. 515 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,039 Speaker 2: I haven't really had. 516 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,759 Speaker 3: That sweater knitting mojo since my husband died, but there 517 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:40,759 will be hats made for friends this year. 518 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,759 Speaker 4: That's a labor I love. The best kind of gifts, 519 00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:47,960 the absolute best. Yeah, absolutely, well, Harmy Dylan. 520 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: We've been very very happy to talk to you and 521 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,119 get to know you a little bit better and about 522 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,279 the work that you're doing, which we all appreciate. 523 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for your time today. 524 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,319 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. It was fun, you bet, thank you. 525 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: Hello m