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to the hot line. Welcome in the six foot three,
two hundred and fifty pounds d ND linebacker out of
Brigham Young University, originally originally from the Great State of Wyoming,
NFL VET Super Bowl champion. We got Brady Popinga on
the Live b Pop How you live in?
Speaker 2: What's up? Guy's always found to jump on?
Speaker 4: Always a pleasure to talk ball with you. B Why
you gets the win? Forty one twenty seven Who do
you give your game balls to? Like from a player's
standpoint and a coaching staff standpoint, who do you give
your game ball to?
Speaker 5: In this game?
Speaker 2: Well? I mean, obviously on the offense, there was just phenomenal,
you know. I mean, how many people question his throwing
ability just because he wore number forty seven, or just
because he's as big as a linebacker, or just because
he is a physical runner. It was quite crazy and
I couldn't believe it, Ben because first saw him throw
the ball, got timing, his patient, the accuracy where he's
zipping it into the tire windows.
Speaker 3: This guy could he.
Speaker 2: Could throw the ball. He's really good, you know, and
it was really fun to see him put that to action.
And then I'll top have to give both Chase and
Parker a ton of credit. Oh uh yeah, those are
two top guys. This one I'll just make a big
catches for him. You know, Parker had that goal line
there where he basically told it, you know, stole that
out of the hands of I think it was a safety.
And then you know, Chase is just constantly being that
like really consistent for him getting open in all different
varieties lands, back, shoulder face and it's but the passing
was so so impressive by defense by the way that
they're gonna dare you to have to sip it into
tight corners have to manipulate safeties to move them away
so that you could throw it behind him. And Bear
was doing that game and obviously he didn't have any
turnovers to account for it, which that's the key. So
you got to give him the ball man. That's like
from the offensive standpoint, and then the second runner up,
i'd say.
Speaker 3: Is the receivers.
Speaker 2: And then I think you always have the fortunately always
acknowledge that offensive line is man. They are as tough,
as smart, as greedy of an offensive line that we've
ever had. Deep too. You know, we got six seven
guys not in social media, by six seven really legit
guys that can play and play well. I mean, you
got to coach Wood's a lot of credit. But you
really can't talk about there. You can't talk about the
receivers without even you know, understanding the overarching influence of
their especially when LJ goes down and now they have
to get some tough yards with one hundred and ninety
five pound pressed wrecks. You're really not meant to be
a featured back. And they're able to do it on
some key downs. They're not to say, we're able to
pound the ball per se without LJ. But that offensive
line has been just been on the defensive side, you know, obviously,
I think the secondary, I think is this whole year
has been the best segment of our whole defense, not
giving up big plays, being extremely competitive on thefty fifty balls.
But the biggest thing are these huge game changing interceptions,
some of them for touchdowns, some of them are just
timely and they're the outcome of the game. And so
I would say, the secondary on the defense and then offense,
you give it to the Bear, but you got you can't,
like I said, you can't really give it to him
without acknowledging the offensive line. And then secondary would be
with Parker and Chase.
Speaker 4: All right, b pop, But where who do you give
your game called game ball to? As far as the
coaching staff is concerned.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, Klawney is obviously the main
figure here. You know, he's put this whole thing together.
He has engineered it. You know, he's the guy. When
they moved to the Big twelve, it's like, Hey, we
have to go build the best coaching staff I possibly
could build. Brings in j Hill. He's a former head coach.
Who's man, I'm scared. I think he's going to get
some big offer here in the offseason, on which I
hope it's not. I hope, I hope it doesn't happen.
I hope he's here with us like the next ten
years at least, you know. And then he gets just
and he gets my brother Cioni Pouha comes in from Utah.
I think Gary Anderson comes down. You know, the offensive
side of the ball. You got to shot the offensive
lot of coach going to Woods. Retain SESSI retained Roderick,
you know Harvey, you know Gennaro. You just can keep
going down these guys. I mean, this is such an
all star cast and I just can't say enough. How
when I am embedded with these guys like like like
they give me such access, which is unbelievable because they
know I'm going to talk to you guys. They know,
they listen. They come up and they comment on our
statement all the time, guys, and they still don't care
like they and I think it's trusting me that I'm
not going to say things that are first inaccurate and
secondly obviously that give them a competitive disadvantage. But I
think they appreciate the arty being and the honest to goodness.
Reality of them is they are the most cohesive coaching
stuff I've ever been around NFL college in terms of
no egos, constantly engaged in how, hey, what's the best
practice for our team, what's the best for us, what's
the best for our players? And it's it's a beautiful
thing to be a part of. That's why I's like,
you know, it's like with Jay, it's like, man, I
just trobably freaking like somebody LSU is gonna come to
and say, Hey, they're gonna give you a ten million
dollars a year for the next five years. You obviously
your James, you can't pass that up. But it's like
you just love to keep those guys around because of
how you know special they are as a group. And again,
like I said, the guy who has orchestrated at all
has been clumped, you know. And then on top of it, Kelly,
he's been to you know what I mean, to put
himself in front of the room. You know. I was
reminded by coach at or not Ed Lamb, but by
coach Barry Lamb last week or two weeks ago when
I saw him leading up to the Utah game that
he had Kelly and other guys. I think you were there,
Ben get up and do special team segments and stuff,
and it's like, well, no, wonder why Kelly has become
such the coach he has. You know, he's already kind
of been training when he was playing, you know. And
and like we've mentioned already with special teams being such
a huge part of their success over the last two years,
and they're run so far. I mean, that's just you know,
you got to Kelly a lot of credit, you know, so,
I mean it's and then Roberts, I just can't say
enough about him, guys. I mean, true freshman you're freaking
all star workhorse running back goes down on a defense
by the way that has not their strength, is not
stopping the run, and now you have to go and
throw the ball all over the yard with the true
freshman quarterbacks, and he does it awesome. I just I mean,
Roderick is just he has answered the call. I mean
so many times in ways that people just got to
start sitting back and enjoying what they're seeing because this
is not normal. You don't get a true look at Michigan.
I think that it was like a good call, highly
highly rated kid, true freshman. If you watch him throw
the ball or run, I mean extreme inconsistency. You know,
he either struggles in one thing or struggles in the other,
doesn't get settled in. Bear's a go plat often now
Bear special. Don't get me wrong, you gotta get credit
to the player. But the fact that he's being put
in the position to thrive, that's Roderick, you know, and
all his staff, and you just can't say enough about him. So, yeah,
the coaching has been really good, you know, really really good.
And like I said, I think it's been a special
group and you're seeing the fruit. So that as we
speak right.
Speaker 4: Now, truly remarkable to watch the creative ways in which
b Yu's winning. A lot of people feel that there's
some sort of divine intervention it's allowing b YU to
win games.
Speaker 5: How do you see it? How is b WHYU eight?
Speaker 4: No, people just keep on there like they're not giving
any credit to be why You're like, how are they winning?
Speaker 5: They shouldn't be winning in these games?
Speaker 2: Well, I laugh because you know, and I'm gonna shout
out to my second counsel, and the stigma it's also
at John said, Will mention that, you know, like in
the weather delay at Arizona, He's like, yeah, Brandy, I
heard that they're reading the scriptures and I was like, John,
that's the reason why they won the game right there.
You know, one in reality, you know, it's God doesn't
care who wins. You know, God is in fact wanting
to everybody to go out and and and live out
their best selves, be an expression of who you already are.
You know, that's that's God's and for us all. We
all have divinity within us and the challenge of mortality
is that make that manifest in our mortal lives. And
that's the same goes for the field of play, you know,
and it's a little different in football. People don't realize
that when you're out there playing with this edge and
the competitive feistiness and violence and you're stacking dudes in
the phase and you're pulling them up, Yes, well, that
is an expression of your divinity against what their best
is and their divinity. And it's meant to be that way.
It's meant to challenge each other because you're expecting the
same out of your opponent. You're expecting them if you're
in a position that's not sound if you're out of
position that they're going to blow you up in the
same way and shoot to the same violent rigor of competition.
That's what it's about. So God doesn't care. You know,
who grows the new wins and loses. But at the
end of the day, our guys are resilient, they're competitive.
And the biggest thing that I really noticed it was
last year, is the core of this team loves to play.
They'd love it, they'd love to go out and compete.
And what happens was when you enjoyed the really difficult,
prickly uncomfortable parts of the journey, These games where you
pull a team to a place of discomfort that may
not enjoy the discomfort as much as you do, tend
to struggle more Like you saw if Iowa State, they
started to kind of implode. You know, you have that
ball ricochetff that players foot in the punt where we
get it back, miscoverages, some you know, holding calls, you know,
interceptions thrown, those kinds of things that ended up becoming
huge for us. And I do believe it's because these
guys love to play, and when they get into these
very highly competitive moments, they do not feel uncomfortable. They're
willing to grind, and they're willing to just kill them
and go through them. Where I think a lot of
players and people in general, when they get to uncomfortable
situations they kind of just want to rush through them
because they're so uncomfortable. I everybody, that's our natural response, Oh,
I got to get through this. I get back to
a place of comfort. In reality, we have to at
times when it's necessary, and when we're participating in sports,
our jobs, our families, there's going to be uncomfortable moments.
And those that are willing to be still in those
uncomfortable moments and know that they're for our good tend
to handle them a little bit better than those are
trying to rush through them. And we just have a
collective group of kids right now, and it's by the
leadership with client in that coaching staff that man, they're
willing to get to those a couple of moments and
grind there, grind, and then they poll teams there and
they see who's willing to stay there with us. It's
so far this year nobody's been willing to stay there.
Speaker 4: I want to get into the special teams component here,
because I do think it's an underrated, under heralded component
of football in general.
Speaker 5: Like, no one feels like that special teams wins football games.
Speaker 4: We typically focus on offense and or defense, right, Like,
I've never heard special teams win championships.
Speaker 5: Right, this is a complimentary football team, right.
Speaker 4: ESPN SP plus Advanced Analytics rates the offense twenty seventh
in the country, the defense fifteenth, but the special teams
unit at six in the country.
Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I have.
Speaker 4: Never seen in my oh man, how long have I
been watching football? You know, I mean we're talking over
like probably thirty plus years of me watching high level football.
And then you know, an additional I don't know how
many years of playing it. Anyway, I rarely have ever
see special teams as productive in creating turnovers. Number one,
that's an insane stat. How many turnovers we create on
punt cover and I maybe even kickoff cover too, because
we've probably forced some fumbles that I'm not recalling. And
then also on the flip side, how many kickoff returns
and punt returns for touchdowns and even flipping of the
field with punt.
Speaker 5: Return and kick return.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's let's elaborate on this a little bit like
I feel like we're creating momentum changes through special teams
that then turn into more touchdowns and more opportunities for
our offense.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the two bags, well three of the biggest examples.
Last three games with the Parker Kings's fund return against
Arizona to set up that tying touchdown, you got the
fumbled or the muff punt that Sam he just kicked
the you know, it was one of his dud punts,
but because of the way he punts the ball with
the Australian style, it had a forward had a forward rotation,
which that's what made the returner for Utah panic and
try to field it because he's trying to save field
position because he knows as soon as it hits it's
most likely going to roll towards his goal on and
so you know that's why he rushed it, try to
try to field it when he probably shouldn't have. And
then we get the fumble recovery. And then last week
we had a phenomenal recovery or excuse me, return by
Hagen that set up excell field position for either a
go ahead or a tying touchdown. Score that that shortened
the fielding. I did that obviously. You know that that
fumble that hits the kid's legs, which Clownie actually is
exactly right. That's exactly what Kelly teaches. Kelly teaches that. Hey,
if you've got guys that when the ball hits the
ground on the return team and we're covering and they're
not willing to get out of the way, because you're
supposed to spread like wildfire, You're literally supposed to run
the ops away. The ball was punting. But if guys
are going to stick around and you got you got
them locked up, push them right into the ball. And
that's exactly what their coach dought. A lot of people
look at it, Oh what a lucky play. No, no,
that's exactly what Kelly coaches. I'm really happy that Clanne
acknowledge that because it's true, you know, and so what
I what I shape it up to. And you can
call me bias or whatever. I don't really care. Kelly's
Kelly is the best special teams coach to coach. Okay,
I don't. I just think the words best special teams
coach sounds kind of crazy. But look at the stats,
look at what like you said, Like if we said, hey,
what because you had a ranking there of six, you know,
the top six. But if you really said what special
teams units have constantly, in a consistent manner make game
changing plays like the ones I just mentioned, I would
imagine we are by far ahead of any other team
in the country. And the way that Kelly does this
is Kelly has got an energy when he coaches that
he is both a he's a disciplinarian where he's going
to demand top effort, he's going to demand perfect execution,
he's going to demand what a lot of what we
would call old school strict coaches do, and he's going
to call you out. Kelly's not afraise, just like myself.
He's not afraid to speak truth. But the difference between
Kelly and myself is Kelly is very very likable in
doing so. I could be abrasive, he's not. And so
what that does is these kids respond to that, and
also it builds a sense of wanting to make the
team proud. Kelly does a nice job of accountability, not
to him at the coach, but to the team, you know,
to your teammates. So when you see those kids flying
down there. And that's to me, like, if just so
people can kind of look at how good is a
special team unit. Look at what happens. I'll kick off
when the ball goes through the end zone. If you
got guys running through the end zone in a frenzy,
high energy, and then I'll punt your gunners just flying
down there again high energy. Those are the two units
that really tell the story of what your special teams
units are about. What those are the defiance and those
moment and the commitment of that unit. They are fired
in a frenzy pace because it's for each other, and
that's what Kelly coaches. And then Kelly gets excellent support.
By the way, we cannot discredit this. I want everybody
to know this. Jay Hill is a former special teams coach.
His input is also tremendously impactful. I hope everybody knows that.
That's why I'm really scared Jay Hill's gonna get hired
away somewhere because somebody else I should say this, Okay,
Key Hill sucks everybody. Okay, anybody listens to me from LSU.
He's terrible. I can't believe he's unbelievable. God, yeah, I
should have said that. Yeah, I just I mean, I
can't speak enough about how good Jay Hill is too,
because he's also helping Kelly. But but Kelly's I mean,
Kelly is he gets in front of the team and
like I said, the way that he handles a room
full of men and how they respect him, and he
shows their mutual respect and it motivates them to play
for each other and play at a high levels, just
specially you know. And I loved watching like I'll never
forget then when I sat in the first one it
was two years ago, and I'm like, that's my younger brother,
you know, because I start having the memories of where
we were. He was Kelly, Kelly Belly, you know, and
the guy used to pick off, you know, here he
is he's just you know, a man, just a leader,
and these kids are responding to them. It's a beautiful
thing to see. And so yeah, you can't really discount
the SUSH teams. They've been phenomenal and a huge reason
why we're able to see where we're at. And they're
going to continue to be that way, by the way,
because that's that's these games are tight. Everybody's so close
in terms of talent. You have to have their differentiators,
and for us right now, special teams one of those differentiators.
Speaker 4: I wonder like if Jay were to get poach, which
is a it's a possibility, we all know that.
Speaker 5: I do think it's hard for big time donors.
Speaker 4: Look at everything that's occurred in college football thus far
this season. Big time schools, uh you know are run
now by big time donors, and they are very volatile
in and knee jerk reaction. I mean, look like Penn
State firing their coach absurd, even LSU and Brian Kelly,
even though I don't think it's a great fit. I mean,
come on, like, it's not like it's like he's a
bad football coach, right Like, this is insane and you're
just firing these guys in paying on fifty million. I
think it's very hard for donors to buy into a
defensive coordinator as their head coach representing their school right now.
Speaker 5: It's not sexy.
Speaker 4: It's not a sexy higher and I think that may
limit opportunities too, because the donors are making more of
these executive decisions. They are the front office, if you will,
of these college institutions right now.
Speaker 2: So you're right, you're right, and and let's hope they
think that way, you know, because if any of these
donors out there knew what I know of Jay, I
wouldn't even I wouldn't even be like questioning that at all,
Like he would be my number one guy. Like that's
how impressive he is, because he's he's beyond the ex's
and oh, although he's phenomenal x's and oh wise, but
just in terms of game management, in terms of motivational,
in terms of team unity, in terms of like he's
very like killing much like killing in the same way
where he has the ability to really hold guys account
or if you go to the practice, he's whipping dudes
left and right, but he does in a way that
they respect, and he does in the way that's positive
in the sense that he's not just doing it to
be annoying or just make noise. He's doing it because
he's putting them in position to make plays. And it's
almost like, hey, man, I just I just handed a
play that you want a silver player, and because you
chose to be out of position, you missed that play.
That's that's more of his spirit of what he's where
he's coaching from a player still that and that's why
they respond like I, like I said in the beginning,
the secondary has been one of the top the top
segment of our defense. And you know Jay in addition,
according to the defense, he also you know, he's he's
a safety's coach, which they've the huge you look at
all the big players or safeties have made it's been unbelievable.
But uh but yeah, you're right. The donors do make
most of the choices, and they are going to be
more very elementary football. I would call it more fag
football where they're looking at the tendencies. Oh you know
and McVay and this guy and that guy. Okay, yeah,
offensive coaches, let's do that, you know. When in fact,
if you really knew Jay, he would be you know,
and if they understood what it took to be a coach,
he would be number one on a lot of these
big lists. And I know, like I know James Franklin guys.
I mean, he coached with me when I was at
the Packers. You know, it's not like these guys are
just no namers that I have no idea. And I'm
just saying this because Jason are you know, buyu teams
like I know Jay versus Jane, and I know James
Frankle just got fired, but he's probably gonna be in
line to be, you know, the LSU coach because he's
an offensive coach like you mentioned. But Jay would run
circles around James Franklin as a head coach, just everybody does,
and I do. I hope you guys don't tweet that.
Can we can we just for for fun not tweet
that make that viral because you know you're gonna get
some donor that's going to be like, oh gosh, what
this guy? I got a look keeper to this, and
then they'll actually be like, oh, let's so sorry.
Speaker 3: Jay.
Speaker 2: I know you listen to the show, and I'm not
trying to like burst your like market bubble here, but
I'm just selfish. They hoping you stay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and so, but I do wonder like who
would be the DC who would be like the candidates
to fill those big shoes if he was to get poached.
I would be intrigued obviously with K Pop, Gary Anderson,
you know guys that are we.
Speaker 2: Talk about this. Let's let's let's not go there.
Speaker 5: I can't okay, all right, we're not even gonna go there.
Speaker 4: Okay, real quick, b Yu versus Ioways State though this
game personnel wise, who stood out to you? Who do
you want to give your game balls to? As far
as the players are concerned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, offensively, it's got to be there. I mean, you
have LJ. Go down. Who he's your offenses ran through
LJ since week one and everything's been a compliment, and
all of a sudden he goes down and now it's
all there, it's all bear Man, and all we got
is we've got Preston Rex Bless his heart. He does
a good job of being, you know, a fly sweep guy,
a screening screen guy. He's more of a you know,
on the edges kind of running back. He's not going
to be your feature back because he's too small, he's
one ninety five. But yet here we are. You know,
we got press and races are featured back and Bear.
If Bear goes out there and just dices up Iowa
State's defense, I mean so fun to watch because so
many people that think you can throw the ball, so
many people that think he was a pit pastor, but
in reality, this guy could sip it and he showed it.
You know against the defense, by the way, that is
a fair I think it's one of the top defenses
the pass efficiency in the country. Their their main weakness
is stoping the run. As a matter of fact, is
they so heavily focused on the top of the pass
with their you know, obsessive eight man drops, which I
think are just absurd. But Barrett made a pay for that.
But you always have to keep the overarching theme of
that offense with the offensive line again, had a phenomenal game.
We're tough, we're moving, guys were for the most part,
hitting their targets, stayed away from dumb penalties. Again, just
just a solid foundation, and we got six seven guys
that can play across that that offensive line too. And
then on the defensive side, I have to give it
to the secondary, most specifically the safety position. You know,
they had that big, big interception for the touchdown there,
and then you know they've been I think the most
the second I mentioned, the most consistent performers of all
three segments of our defense over the year. But they
really kept the city. Although we give us a big
touchdown to start with there, which is kind of a
funky deal, but they've more than made up with it
throughout the game. And so those were I been looking
at the highlight for our win.
Speaker 4: Love it great breakdown Brady Pepinga ladies and gentlemen, b
yus eight and no, they're in the top ten. And
can they stay humble, stay hungry, get healthy and be
Texas Tech on the road that's going to be their
biggest test of the season. But I always state was
no joke. That was sixty two thousand strong and a
good football team.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But you know Texas seconds playmakers on the edges
and their running backs good, they're all line solid. But yeah,
I mean they're going to go up against the most
talented team. It's a twenty five million dollar team, which
is good. It's good. Let's let's see what they're made of,
you know. And uh and their defensive stout, man, those
they got some big It's very interesting Ise Tech. You
to you for offense with Fike leaks, and they would
kind of I think, you know, they would give up
some things on the defense to to make sure their
offense was good. And so they were ever really known
to have strong defenses or real physical defenses. And I said,
this is the year first year that I've seen a
texta tech team that is absolutely physical from the inside out,
starting with their nose guards and the d tackles and
uh so, and they got an excellent passer for the
best of the country that we're gonna have to you know,
account for and uh and let's hope we get bear
back because the best way to stop these guys is
the run. Excuse me, lg back. And the best way
to stop these guys is rub the ball right down
the middle of that defense and wear them out trying
to stop the run. So and if not, I do
think we do have some depth at the running back
position that people don't realize. With good mooney, I also
think paying a walk on that's that pain sun big
stick runner, those guys could step in and get us
some tough yards if need to be. But we'll see
what Robert's got up sleep and we'll see what happened.
O Ye, I'm not sure you know if he's going
to be able to play or not. But but yeah,
I think I think we got some depth there that
hasn't been tapped into yet that could come in and
help them and help keep that you know, that strong
running power running game going to be the foundation of
what we do.
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Speaker 4: All right, let's welcome in the three d QB Quarterback
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Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 4: We got John Beck on the line. John, how is
your weekend, buddy?
Speaker 3: It was a good weekend, Ben, A lot of all
good big win at the high school, but Pop waher
games didn't go quite as good. But you know what,
you learn a lot of lessons from the tough ones
as well. So the back boys are growing and learning
through all the experiences they're going through.
Speaker 4: How much cross pollination is there in your in your
playbook and your game planning from high school to the
Pop Warner level? I mean, are you are you strategically
creating personnel groupings and schematics for your your Warner team
that also extend to the Shan Clementy team as well?
Speaker 3: No, not none necessarily. Like Dennis Pitt and I, actually
we both coach on Pop Warner teams that actually practice
on the same field. So he and I go from
the varsity practices and we walk right over to the
fields where our kids do the pop warner. We always
talk about, like, you know, you have to build a
game plan that is going to give your team an
opportunity to move the football. But we also one of
the reasons why we're doing it is because we want
to help our kids have a really good football foundation.
And so when you can build a base level of
understanding of foundational plays, a lot of offensive football builds
off of that foundation, off of those understandings. And so
if you can create that at a young level individually
for you know, our own kids, but then also as
a team, that then if that group can stay together,
it just builds on top of each other. So we
don't necessarily run like, oh, hey, we're going to do
exact things that the high school is doing. But we
always talk about we are structuring kind of the foundation
of our playbook in a way that when our kids
do get to that high school level, they should feel advanced.
They should feel that they have a great understanding week
to week, anything that comes up in a game plan,
any little tweak that you want to do, they understand
the where and the why. And so I've always kind
of prided myself on pushing the kids when they're young.
And maybe some people that have been on my teams
might say, man, it seems like John, you know, really
kind of does a lot offensively for young kids. But yeah,
I do, because I believe that football is like a language,
and if you can get a young kid to learn
how to speak a secondary language by just speaking it
all the time in your home and really pushing them,
that can happen in football as well, and then when
they get to those upper levels, now you can get
more out of them.
Speaker 4: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, talking to some football. How
did the Beck fam compete this weekend? What was the
win loss record?
Speaker 3: You know what? It was one and two. Probably the
highlight was the varsity team. My son got to start
for the varsity team in a big game and we
had to play an undefeated Los al Amidos team and
it was a huge win for our team, huge win
for the program for the seniors as well on Senior night,
and it guaranteed us a playoff spot, and so it
was a big one. That was kind of the highlight
of the three games. Family came into town to watch,
so it was a lot of.
Speaker 5: Fun love that.
Speaker 4: Man, Well, everyone thinks that a former b YU rate
NFL that you know, second round draft pick, et cetera,
they win every single game that they coach in and
that that's not that's not accurate.
Speaker 5: That's what I thought.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is completely not accurate. I think
one of the toughest things is, here's one of the
toughest things when you coach the very youngest kids. You
can see everything that will work, but it's it's like,
it doesn't matter what you know football wise. It doesn't
matter what you could scheme up or any of that
like that goes out the door. It matters what those
kids can do, what they understand. You know, you need
to have Dennis Pitta on the show and see what
he's going through his team. I mean, I think they've
only won one or two games, and it's just you
can know all the football that you want, but it's
about who you have on your team, their capabilities and
what they understand. And quite honestly, you could have a
coach that doesn't know that much football, but if he's
got guys that can outplay your guys, he can keep
it very simple and win the football game. And so
where I feel like my experience comes into play is
when we face teams that are evenly matched or we're
slightly below. Where can I, through coaching the kids throughout
the week and throughout the season, give us a little
bit of a schematic advantage where now we can play
a little bit above our actual level and heat with
some of the teams that maybe if it was just
straight up we wouldn't get a chance to compete with.
And then I really try to do a good job
of just overall throughout the year, building the kids understanding
of what sports is really like and how it relates
to life like ups and downs, challenges. Sometimes you're having
a great run, sometimes you get your freaking butt kicked.
Sometimes things work out for you, and other times you
can't seem to get anything to work. And just building
their resilience, building their belief, building also a better relationship
with losing and not having them compare of like, well,
this team lost to this team and we should beat
that team. And if we lose to this team, then
that means we're not as good as this team. Like
all of that I'm trying to teach these kids just
toss it out the window be the very very best
version of you you can be right now in this moment,
and then learn from it and then improve going forward.
And I try to really just hone in on those
things so that when the kids are older and they
face whatever challenges they're going to go through, whatever high
schools they're going through, they're better for pared for him.
Speaker 4: It brings up an interesting point, honestly, it segues into
the topic that that is most intriguing to me right now,
the national pun. It's many that even that that that
maybe contrives some of their their conclusions off of objective metrics.
They think BYU is not winning uh due to merit.
They're winning doing due to luck. They're finding a way
to win in different ways, be it special teams, creating turnovers,
et cetera. And and I wanted to get your your
perspective on how BYU is winning uh since arriving the
Big twelve. I remember in twenty twenty three we did discuss, hey,
are are these wins? It was like BA was like
five and two at the time, and they were on
the brink of getting Bowl eligible. It is like, are
these are these these ways in which BO is winning?
Are they sustainable and they ended up not being sustainable.
And then BA had an eleven two season completely overachieving,
maybe versus their talent, maybe versus the hype, and they
found waste win.
Speaker 5: Once again, they're finding waste to win.
Speaker 4: And you have to wonder, Okay, is this just who
BYU is is or is there some luck of associated
with it that not all the analysts right now are
giving Bay you credit for Give me your perspective on this.
Speaker 3: Well, I think when you talk to football people like
toss the analysts out right, Like first off, analysts love
to create, right, whatever can cause a story. Are are
they really watching every snap of BYU football? I doubt it? Yeah, right,
they probably are watching kid bits here and there. They're
probably calling somebody, hey, are you watching that football team
over there in Provo? What do you think about them?
Give me your Most people aren't analyzing everything. They're trying
to gather information quickly so that they can say something
that grabs attention. That's the truth of it. If you
talk to football people, let's go back to that twenty
twenty three year because I remember having conversations, you know,
with Keaton Slovas to to get Cleayton Keeton Slovis to
BYU and what what it was believed that BYU was
going to be able to do that year twenty twenty three,
things happened that nobody could have anticipated with the run game,
the past protection. They're like, there were so many things,
and there were some changes made right, There were some
changes made to the staff. Those changes were believed to
have a great impact, which they did. You go to
BYU last season where people would say, hey, well you
had this boa football team overachieved. If you talk to
the football people, they had seen the foundation that was
being laid, and twenty twenty three was like this unique
anomaly off. We didn't expect that. This is what was
out of our control, but we're going to get better
because of it. And so those little tweaks kind of
catapulted BYU to a due place. If you got around
the football people going into the twenty twenty four year,
could they have predicted that hard of a start. No,
But they all would have said, we know we are
a very good football team. We know we're going to
be able to do a lot of things. And even
in twenty twenty four, they were already saying twenty twenty
five has the chance to be a really special team,
probably the best team that we've had in the last
decade plus. That's what the football people were saying, and
so I think what you're seeing is you're seeing a
lot of years of hard work of building something. It's
what you Why do they say build a program, because
you do build towards something. You build a foundation, you
grow upon that foundation. Then you bring in all of
these parts. And in today's era, adding coaches with the
experience that they brought in absolutely helps. Getting to bring
in a tight end coach that has the NFL experience
that he has, you can see an impact the O
line in a way that the O line is playing,
you can see an impact. So you see all these
pieces come together. The football people have understood it for
a long time. The non football people they're the ones
that are going to have to find reasons for why
DOYU is winning. They don't want to just say, oh, man,
this is a really good football team. You win football
games a lot of different ways. You're never going to
be able to go out and dominate in thirty two
quarters on one side of the ball for all thirty
two quarters. It is impossible. You just don't do it
between field position. You know, the luck of calling good plays.
Sometimes plays look amazing. Sometimes you can make a good
play call based off of the off the study you've
done throughout the week, and it looks like absolute crap
on game day and you're like, that was not how
we saw that playing out. I think that it's a
testament to Killanne his staff, the players buying in the
belief that they've cultivated throughout the year so that when
they face tough times they are becoming a good football
team by a phase, stands up and wins the game.
Like you look at this last game, was BAU playing
bad football in the beginning though they weren't playing bad football,
but Iowa State was making some big plays and they
got him down and BYU was having a little bit
of tough time offensively, but it wasn't bad football. And
then all of a sudden boom, a turnover happens deep
in bus backed up and completely change the game. And
then what happens The offense gets an opportunity to go
down on a two minute drive, they score, and they
get the ball right back and then they drive again.
That's the mark of a good football team. You don't
have to knock a team and say, well, if they
were that good, they never should have been down. I
truly believe the best football teams when things aren't going
their way, they find a way to come back when
they're down. And that's maybe what the outside of football
people don't understand that that is the mark of a
good team, not a lucky team.
Speaker 4: How much of this also has to do with the
anomaly of special teams creating turnovers and also scoring touchdowns.
Speaker 5: This year, it's creating turnovers.
Speaker 4: They haven't really scored touchdowns, but they've also flipped fields
and they've been able to you know, I think the
return game has been strong, and also their punt cover
and kickoff cover has done a great job of limiting
big plays. But more so than anything, they're creating turnovers
on special teams. We saw that in twenty twenty three,
we've seen it in twenty twenty four, and we're seeing
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Dude, it is huge when you can have special teams
contribute in that way.
Speaker 2: It is gigantic.
Speaker 3: I think when you go back to some of the
metrics of last season and the punt return and kick
return yards. I mean, that was a huge thing in
field position for for BYU and in some really critical games.
And you look at this last game the special teams
play where a very heads up play to push his
guy into the ball. I mean, and it came at
a critical moment, Like all of those things are so big. Again,
and I know you and I have said this for years,
whenever you try to string together an undefeated regular season,
you have to have some things happen in critical moments
that go your way. Like again, it is just impossible
to dominate every quarter. And there's going to be critical
parts in a game where you need a ball with
that that the opponent kicks hit the upright. You need
a punt to bounce off somebody and you recover it.
You need a tip the ball off of a defender's
hands to landing your guys's hands for a completion like
I've just seen it. I've seen really good football teams
where hey, they have one or two losses in the
regular season because a few of those things didn't go
their way. And whenever you go and you point towards
the undefeated teams a lot and I'm not talking about
the like the Ohio States that are sitting at the
top of the entire season and they just go out
and they run through everybody into the playoffs. I'm not
talking about them. I'm talking about the teams right below
them that are sitting at like six to twelve rankings
and they're stringing together undefeated seasons. They have to have
those plays in moments of games that turn things and
it's just not all dominant And that's what I see.
That's quite honestly, what I see BYU doing. Like, yes,
I know they've had to come back in a number
of these games and win, But isn't that what people
say they want to know if their team can do,
how does the team play when they're down. When you're
recruiting kids, I tell you what, you don't want to
just have a bunch of kids that have dominated everybody
all through high school and have never been down in
games to be the makeup of your football team. That
team will fall apart in critical moments. You got to
find some kids that have been in tough situations. They
know how to pull together and make plays in critical
moments when they are down. And so that's where when
I look at this bou football team. Is it a
guarantee that they're going to be undefeated. No, but they
should definitely have a resolve and a confidence and a
faith right now that when they're down they can find
a way to come back and win. And you know,
we don't know the situations of these next few games.
We don't know about LJ, We don't know about certain
guys in the team, if we're going to be fully healthy.
But Texas Tech, even though they've lost their quarterback, it's
going to be a dog fight. You can go down
to other games and say it's going to be a dogfight,
going to be a dog fight, going to be a
dogfight all the way to the finish. Are we going
to be winning every single quarter? Is Byu going to
be up in every moment? Absolutely not. So we better
hope we have a makeup of kids that know how
to come back from behind and right now, now that's
what they showed and I think that everybody should be
proud of that. And yes, the outside world is going
to point too, well, maybe they're not as good as
they think as people think they are, so be it.
Let them think that, and then Uyu just focuses on
doing what they're doing.
Speaker 5: I've said this time and time again.
Speaker 4: I was handing out my game balls for this game
versus Iowa State, and my first game ball actually went
to Aaron Roderick for his play calling, for his ability
to scheme wide receivers open. People don't really realize that
they want to give all the credit to the quarterback.
I'm like, guys, these are schematic, like, these are linear,
schematic executions, and he's allowing Bear Bachmeier to make an
easy throw sometimes many times in this game, to go
over three hundred yards because he didn't have a running
back in this game. LJ went out in the first quarter,
or you know, at the end of it, I believe,
and I just I felt like a Rod deserved this
game ball. Wanted to get your perspective on this because
there hasn't been a coordinator in BYU football history, minus
Doug Scolville who was only with us for like four
years in the seventies, that has been applauded as being
a good play caller. And I'm like, guys, like, we've
had some great play callers per dollar spent in our
illustrious history, and no one's been perfect. But a Rod
deserves a bit of his flowers right now. In my opinion,
all things considered one of the toughest schedules in boa
football history with a true freshman quarterback. He lost his
retro freshman redshirt senior excuse me, and then he just
lost his running back in this game versus Iowa State.
Speaker 5: I think he needs some love.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what, Here's the thing that I really enjoy
watching Aaron Rodgercks' schemes is he does such a good
job of creating levels of throws that they mirror a
concept that is a staple concept. And then what he
does is he creates through formations, through motions, different ways
to get to the same foundational type scheme. You know,
it's kind of like what I said earlier in the
show talking about building a foundation, Like there are areas
of the field that he does a great job of
attacking a variety of ways. But when you look at
where people get to on the field, it makes the
read simple for the quarterback because he has something to say, well,
that is a lot like this play. They're getting to
the same spots on the field. I can read it
the exact same way, We're just getting there a little differently.
The o other thing that he does well is he
creates really good stuff off run game. You look at
some of the actions that they have. They have such
a large variety of play actions that they use off
of their counter game, and he does a really good
job of also off of run game. I'm gonna have
quick hitters that I'm gonna utilize space and numbers. And
if we have space and numbers, the quarterback is gonna
not choose the run. He's just gonna throw the ball
out on the edge. I think he's gonna have these
these mid level throws where people are based off of
the way that a defense reacts to the run. I
can now get people right behind in those windows. And
so you see Bear come off of a quick action
and he's going to drive a ball right behind those windows.
And then you see those even deeper shots off of
actions that are hitting those throws, you know, sixteen to
twenty two yards down the field. That's where he does
a really good job in his game plans and those things.
And you know, I'm always reminded of a conversation I
was having one time with Carson Palman. We were talking
about play callers in the NFL, the job that it
is to be a play caller in the NFL, and
the word that he used was offensive coordinator is such
a thankless job. And it's so true because when your
team scores points and does well, most of the time
people just say, well, yeah, that's what he's supposed to do.
He's the offensive coordinator. He's supposed to go out there
and put points on the board, and they don't realize
how much goes into getting those points on the board.
Especially with some of the defensive schemes that people run.
It is not always easy because you are a lot of
the times are calling what you are anticipating. But when
things don't go good, it is so easy to just
point the finger terrible play calls. This guy sucks. And
that's why it's so important to have a quarterback that
can also see and understand what is trying to be
accomplished with the play call and get you in and
out of the right things. And when it is bad
or when it's not what you thought, you know what,
Sometimes taking a sack is not a bad thing. Sometimes
throwing a ball away is not a bad thing. Taking
the checkdown can be a great thing. And although it
doesn't look pretty a coordinator that has somebody that can
manage the decisions really really well. It helps the coordinator
so much because when you get in situations where you
can't trust a quarterback to do that, you have to
be careful with your play calls. You have to be
careful that you're not talking him into throws by your
play call. And that's why we've seen it this year
like this is a very put together football team, very
put together, with a great understanding of the offense that
these guys have been in one offense the entire time.
And you insert this young but very smart and good
decision maker and always bail us out with his legs,
and you put that together and things are working really
really well. But Aaron Rodgers has done a good job
of taking that foundation that he built with the players,
recognizing what they can do bring in a young quarterback
and managing that and balancing it out so well. And
that's the art of being a coordinator. It's not always
gonna just look great every single quarter. But he has
done such a good job of in the things that
he does of how creative it is. Because you don't
get to back, You're like, you don't get to go
back and watch the full eleven on eleven view. You
don't get to see how something from week three or
week four is utilized and how he knows what a
defense is going to do, and how he's capitalizing off
of back week seven and eight. But he's done a
good job of that.
Speaker 4: John Beg former Vieau Great the Quarterback Scie two stow
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threw for a lot of yards in this game. Very
impressive work from bear Bachmeyer over three hundred and seven
twenty two to thirty five sixty two point nine percent
completion percentage, two touchdowns. He also ran it twelve times
for forty nine yards and a touchdown, averaging four point
one yards per Carrie.
Speaker 5: How would you assess.
Speaker 4: His performance in this game on the road in front
of sixty two thousand enemy Well, most of them were
enemy fans, not not as many BIOI fans got tickets
to this game because Iowa State fans show up to
Jack Trice Stadium and they never lose. They very rarely
lose at on their home field.
Speaker 5: What did you make of Bear Bachmeyer's performance.
Speaker 3: I thought Bear had a super solid day. You know,
playing those three three to five defenses, it's not easy
because they based off of their rule, they're going to
get into looks that don't necessarily have defined coverage where
you would say, oh that's cover two, Oh, that's cover four,
Oh that's cover six. Like a lot of the times
you're going back there, you're going through your reads and
there is no defined coverage. They play very unique responsibilities
sometimes three three five defenses based off of motions and
different things. They can take themselves out of position. And
so you actually saw some of BYU's big plays were
some busts by Iowa State and a really good job
of Bear of recognizing them. That's the other thing that's
not easy to do as a young player. It's not
easy to recognize, you know, when they bust and all
of a sudden, your clear out go route that is
literally there for what you call love of the game,
he's just running defenders off all of a sudden, that
guy's who's popping open and Bear finds Chase on the run,
and Chase is really the clear out there. So Bear
does a really good job of staying within the offense,
even some of his sacks. Like, I know it sounds
funny to compliment a sack, but Bear took a couple
of really good sacks, yeah, because there was nowhere to
go with the football and in time, Yeah he did, yeah,
yeah he did. You know, young quarterbacks learn that when
you start getting knocked around, you learn how to sligh
real fast. But he did a really good job of just,
you know what, even though we're down right here, even
though it phil's like we're having a little bit of
a tough time getting things going, it's not worth it
right here to chance it. And the thing that's cool, too,
is with Bear is like the demeanor of staying the
same guy despite the situation. I think that that, you know,
I'm going to go back to what I watched this
kid do for three years in high school, whether it
was our games or singing him on tape, like he
was involved in so many shootouts for seven to forty nine,
fifty two to fifty seven, thirty eight to forty one.
I think Bear literally has just been programmed to just
be the same guy no matter what is going on,
because that is just the game that he's had to
play for so long. And so when I look at
this game, like, yes, Iowa State, it felt like they
had a ton of momentum. I mean, I was driving
from one Pop Warner game to the next Pop Warner
game with my phone on my car watching and Iowa
States driving and I'm like, oh my gosh, like this
is the first half, and they if they put points
on the board, especially a touchdown right here, this is
going to be a huge gap that like, you know,
I don't think anybody expected that. And then boom, the
interception happens, and then all of a sudden, you feel
this momentum shift. And then, like I said earlier, they
score before half, they get the ball coming out of half,
they get the ball getting after the turnover on the punt,
like things start happening, and the same old bear just
keeps chipping a way right, and he runs around. He
finds guys, open you have other thing. He did a
really good job of. He recognized when the other team
was in drop eight and he could feel, oh, they're
only bringing three right here. That's a skill that like
you have to develop over time. Most of time a
young quarterback, you know, he'll he'll force certain balls and
then you'll watch tape and go, oh man, they're in
drop eight right there. Like I really didn't need to
try to throw that on time in such a tight window.
I can move a little bit, like you found him,
find Parker Kingston on the backside. It was a little
three by one front side, you have an option route
with a little rap incut and into the field backside
concept you have a corner with two double unders. Well
the coverage, yeah, the coverage would not tell you to
go backside. So he starts front side to the two
receiver side. But he recognized that they were in a
drop eight. And you see him just softly kind of
move and stay behind the line, and he brings his
eyes all the way back to the left sideline and
finds Parker Kingston sitting by himself. You know, like that
type of comfort. You know, there's like there's no panic,
there's no worry. He just he feels it out again.
I just go back to where he has loads of experience,
like teams would do that all the time. Uh to
to his high school team they would drop eight, and
they would say, well, we don't want to bring pressure
because I like, if we bring pressure and he sees
the pressure well and understands where to go with the football,
he can gash us. The other thing is if we
bring pressure and he takes off with his legs, he's
gonna gash us. All right, so let's go ahead, let's
drop eight. Well, if you have a patient quarterback that
recognizes that they can sit back and as they move
their eyes, they know defenders move. You know, he's just
he's playing in it like in a way where because
of his presence and because of his comfort level, even
if things don't go well for a little bit, he
just keeps chipping away, keeps chipping away. And he made
a comment I watched one of the interviews afterwards where
he said, he's one of eleven that is one of
the best mindsets that you can have as a quarterback.
And that's why playing on good football teams always helps quarterbacks.
You know, the mind can, at times in highly competitive
people take you to a place where you feel like
you have to do more for your team because you
so badly want to succeed, You so badly want to win,
you so badly want to play well, and so you
start to feel not one of eleven. You start to
feel like everything falls on your shoulders and you got
to make it happen. And playing within the offense doesn't
always work for you, and so you try to do more.
And that's why sometimes you see on teams, tough football
teams that are struggling to run the football, struggling to
get first downs. Sometimes the quarterbacks go through some struggles.
And that's why meant that to be able to give
a young quarterback that feeling, which Byu has done because
of going back to the foundation that the team has built,
the staff, the players, what he got to get inserted into.
That is the best feeling you can give a young
quarterback is you are one of eleven. Just do what
you need to do, don't try to do too much,
and just distribute the ball. This team around you can
help you. And by that feeling, then you get to
watch the really cool things happen where then that player
is doing so much to help the team and he's
made so many critical plays in good play for this
football team because of that awesome balance that he gets
to live in and that space he gets to live
in And that's where you just have to tip your
hat to the program as a whole, because the program
has built this theme that is now moving forward and
also the experience of a young player. He's coming in
very experienced and that experience has helped so much and
you're getting to watch this really cool thing happen. A
thing popped up on my Instagram the other day of like,
there's been four quarterbacks that have started off. For three
quarterbacks that started off, I think it was like seven
to zero, and right now there's been only three. And
it's Jalen Hurts, it's Trevor Lawrence, and it's Bear Bachmeyer. Well,
look at the schools you're talking Alabama in their heyday,
Clemson in their heyday, and by U just b YU
is in such an awesome place right now. It's so
cool to see.
Speaker 4: Love that perspective, John. Last thing before we let you
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's happening right now as well that
I should probably say is with high school playoffs being
right around the corner, you have some of these teams
in different states that they are getting first round buys.
You know, the coaches give them a weekkend off after
you know, their final regular season game. We have a
lot of players saying, hey, you know they always give
us the Saturday Sunday off after our last game before
we head into the playoffs. Can we come down? And
so we already have a lot of quarterbacks that are
setting up kind of that end of the year tune up,
end of regular season tune up. And people ask me
all the time, John, what is it you do for
your pro guys, you know, in college guys during the season. Well,
we watch all their tape. We're giving them feedback throughout
the year. But then during bye weeks, me and my
partners were always on the road during bye weeks for
tune ups, and people ask, well, how come these guys
need me tune ups? Well, there isn't usually as much
of an emphasis on mechanical efficiency throughout the course of
a season because everything is on scheme. Everything is on
understanding what the defense is, giving coverage, game plan. You're
putting in so much time to the actual game that
there's not really that that that I that is on mechanics,
and so sometimes kind of like your cleat, you know,
gets a little loose and you got to come and
you got to tie it back to tighten it up.
That's the same thing that we do with quarterbacks. We
could go out during certain times of the year and
you get little tune ups, just a little fine tuning.
And so right now is a big time of year.
As high school football regular seasons are winding down, a
lot of guys are looking for that tune up before
they head into playoff time.
Speaker 4: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, John, always appreciate our time together.
Thanks for hopping on and pontificating and giving us some
football knowledge we can't get anywhere else.
Speaker 5: We appreciate it.
Speaker 3: You're welcome. I'm always happy to hop on and pontificate. Ben.
Speaker 4: Hey, you're a pontificator of palabras, man, that's what you are. Man,
And I don't know how you say how do you
say palabras in Portuguese?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Words, same thing.
Speaker 5: You're pontificator of palabras here a Portuguese. So yeah, that's
what you are.
Speaker 7: Baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, it's good talking BeO you Ball Burrow. It's fun
to watch these guys play so well.
Speaker 4: Always a pleasure, always a blessing talking about with you, John,
thanks so much for hopping on.
Speaker 5: Brother.
Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good, we'll see it.
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Speaker 7: It a show.
Speaker 4: Hammer time Ronald the three man Weaver, Ronnie, what do
you got for me?
Speaker 8: Bear Bachmeier is the Big twelve Freshman of the Year,
not candidate. He is the Big twelve Freshman Player of
the Year. Give them the award now, I don't care
who got selected a lot of controversy.
Speaker 7: I give the award.
Speaker 5: Big twelve Football Week nine.
Speaker 4: On Arez Offensive Player of the Week Bert flick Ficklin
of Utah, as well as Connor Wigman quarterback Houston and
Freshman of the Week Beard. Excuse me, Bert Ficklin got
both of them, got both of the awards. That sounds
like Bear fatigue to me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Bear fatigue.
Speaker 8: Bear has made the voters fatigue now because he's been
so dominant. But at the end of the day, the
big two wild try anything they can been to make
sure that Byu is not nasty recognized. They don't want Brigham.
They don't want Brigham.
Speaker 5: They don't want Brigham. You don't think I don't think.
Speaker 7: They want Brigham. They think about it.
Speaker 8: Bear has had how many performances where you could have
been both the Big twelve Freshmen of the Week and
the Offensive Player of the Week where they just have
chosen not to give it to him. I find it
pretty interesting at the backup and that this Utah team
was running up the score on a bad Colorado team and.
Speaker 7: They decide, Okay, well let's just do that.
Speaker 8: So I don't know, at the end of the day,
it doesn't matter Bird whatever, fickle fickling fickle the award
over to Bear Bachmeier because Bear is gonna Bear's gonna
win the award. That's what's gonna happen at the end
of the day. I'm telling you Bear's gonna have it.
When it's all said and done, they will have to
literally deliver the award in person, mail it, put a
statue however you want to do.
Speaker 7: His name is already engraved on it and they know
it as we all know it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't think Carl Rouder is a bad team. I
mean they beat Iowas State. It did at home twenty
four to seventeen. They were competitor against TCU. They lost
a close one to Bway on their home field. It's
about home and away to me. Yeah, and you just
have a home field advantage, especially in the Big twelve.
A lot of a lot of fans show up. It's similar.
It's a kin to the Big ten and the SEC crowds.
And and that's why I was stayed was in this game.
I think Bway is a better football team. It's obvious
to me that they're a better football team. But in
front of their home crowd, uh, it's it's a whole
lot more difficult. How many false starts, illegal procedures at
b what you have in front of that student section
of of of Jack Trice Stadium, they were like on
their own two yard line, two backed up.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It was ugly, man, it looked very similar akin to
what the Rock does at our home field of Lavelle
Edwards Stadium. So I think I think Utah also has
a very very good home field advantage, which then begs
the question the form and fashion which Utah demolished Colorado.
You're gonna get a lot of our Utah fans saying,
look like you know, the rest were in on it,
and they had their home field, but on a neutral field,
we're taking it to the BYU Cougars. So you have
a lot of Utah fans right now, especially with Texas
Tech having to start the third string quarterback, they're wondering,
they're praying, they're wishing, they're hoping that they meet up
with Brigham Young University in Arlington in the Big twelve
championship game. Now, don't sleep on Houston, don't sleep on Cincinnati.
They're very much still in the race for this and
so is Texas Tech. But anything can happen to the
Big Twelve, no doubt about it. A holy war in Arlington.
Speaker 5: The two.
Speaker 8: Ridiculous Colorado. Colorado's not a bad team. Bad team by record,
they've been in every one of these ball games. Look,
you lose to Houston by sixteen, bin you lose its
TCU thirty five to twenty one. That game really doesn't
tell because up until five minutes it was a one
score game. Colorado was marching eight. It just didn't convert
the fourth down. So Colorado by record and shows that.
But I mean they still got opportunity to get be
eligible three to five. People may say that's crazy, which
means they got to win three out of the last
But check this out. Listen, this has been Arizona. They
get it home, that's possible. West Virginia on the road.
Westervignia is not a good football team. They haven't won
a game yet. Then you've got Arizona State at home
and then Kansas State on the road. So it's possible,
still possible.
Speaker 4: If b wing you and Utah meet in Arlington at
is it going to be an AT and T Stadium again?
Speaker 7: Yes, it's still there until twenty thirty one.
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's an eighty thousand seat stadium. Does it
sell out last year in a twelve championship?
Speaker 5: I did not.
Speaker 4: Fifty five thousand showed up. That's a good pool. In
a neutral state in Arizona State. RADEA, Yeah, you know
what I mean. It's chilid so eighty thousand. I mean,
I don't want to get ahead of myself. Put the
cart before the horse, but man, that would be tremendous.
And Utah looks good. Utah is a good football team.
Utah is a good football program. Don't get a twisted.
You put a goose egg up on your whole field
and you dominate in that form of fashion. Yeah, you've
ran it up, but still you did it. You were
able to perform at a high level. So I'm just saying, like,
don't sleep on the youth's either. They're a good football team.
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