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<v Speaker 2>Finally people like paying here at the beginning of the shot,

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<v Speaker 2>I might understand what that was all about, but you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know that's a long that's a long conversation. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>was doing a little tech support for someone who was

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<v Speaker 4>using a u A interface with Georgie's wonderful retying of

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<v Speaker 4>them inputs one in two for the overall u A

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<v Speaker 4>interface with respect to any other software.

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<v Speaker 1>We got, we got it. We got all the wiring.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, he just plude editing in different places inside

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<v Speaker 3>the u A console.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's and then and then he and then he

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<v Speaker 4>uses the virtuals of u A, the virtual drivers of

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<v Speaker 4>u A to return the DAW separately from the Mac. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>And that's great because now you can have playback. You

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<v Speaker 4>can return the DAW back to two channels and send

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<v Speaker 4>those two channels to OX one and two off the

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<v Speaker 4>UA mixer, which then basically feeds playback back to your clients. Done.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the loop back thing. Everybody's always asking me, can

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<v Speaker 3>you set up loop back? How can I do a

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<v Speaker 3>loop back?

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<v Speaker 1>I needed, you know, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but this this user was doing podcasts and he

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to play back his overall desktop audio.

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<v Speaker 3>So now coming out of the Mac system correct coming

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<v Speaker 3>out had to go back down the line. And the

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<v Speaker 3>down the line part was also based on system sound

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<v Speaker 3>right because it was right Chrome.

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<v Speaker 4>So the issue here is that, like you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>have Chrome, Zoom, et cetera. It's outputting to the Mac driver,

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<v Speaker 4>which you use virtual three four that shows up on

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<v Speaker 4>the console in three four and then you want to

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<v Speaker 4>send playback to that, so you so you route ox

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<v Speaker 4>one and two to two there, but what's on the

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<v Speaker 4>Mac the return of the Google Meet and there's your loop,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can't get around it. Because you say, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to return the Mac output one in two

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<v Speaker 4>instead of three and four, you still have the same problem.

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<v Speaker 4>It returns. The problem always is that Zoom whoever it is,

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<v Speaker 4>is coming back the same place that all your other

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<v Speaker 4>Mac playback is coming to.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't separate them.

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<v Speaker 4>So I said, you know you're going to need Nexus

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<v Speaker 4>for this and all the things that Nexus does. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 4>all he really needed was Nexus Review, which is this

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<v Speaker 4>standalone app and when you launch Nexus Review has an

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<v Speaker 4>option to capture the system audio. So what it does

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<v Speaker 4>is it takes whatever your system audio is in this

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<v Speaker 4>case goes UA and it says, nope, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>send it to this Nexus system audio device. Now it's

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<v Speaker 4>got it. And it brings that into Nexus Review, and

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<v Speaker 4>the Nexus Review says, what was your system output? Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>it was the UA. I'll make my output the UA.

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<v Speaker 4>So now everything is return to the UA, but the

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<v Speaker 4>system is playing back through the system audio Nexus device,

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<v Speaker 4>and we can blend that into the input of where

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<v Speaker 4>your talkback is also inputting too. So Nexus Review can

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<v Speaker 4>grab your talkback MIC, it can grab your system audio

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<v Speaker 4>send it to an input, and that input doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>your output from the UA in it, and therefore you

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<v Speaker 4>don't have the.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a little mixer, sort of a monor mixer

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<v Speaker 3>with a mixed minus built in built into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's exactly right, sneak.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you launch the app, it automatically grabs your

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<v Speaker 4>system audio, and when you quit the app, it sends

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<v Speaker 4>your system audio back to wherever it was originally going to.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're not using it, it undoes what it did.

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<v Speaker 3>And you recommend for a lot of folks that once

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<v Speaker 3>do you recommend it, they auto load it so it's

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<v Speaker 3>always loading and it's always there, or do you really

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<v Speaker 3>recommend they load it only when they need it depends.

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<v Speaker 4>You could literally set it in the applications. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>auto boot in your system, your systems set up. You

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<v Speaker 4>could literally do that. It just depends on how if.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because literally you can just have it there

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<v Speaker 4>and then everything goes through there. And the other nice

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<v Speaker 4>thing is that then you've got a separate fader for

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<v Speaker 4>your client return, for your your talk back, your return

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<v Speaker 4>of the Mac. And it has a separate input for

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<v Speaker 4>a broadcast end. So you can have two separate inputs,

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<v Speaker 4>the Mac capture and a separate output you could like

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<v Speaker 4>output your dowed to it. It just depends if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to have it always running. You could certainly just

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<v Speaker 4>have it automatically launch. I mean, that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a much more massive version of this going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you guys have ever seen my screen,

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<v Speaker 4>but I instead of just having the simple you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Nexus Review, which really is just a set of routes,

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<v Speaker 4>I use Router and if I share my whole screen,

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<v Speaker 4>you will notice out of my way, but you will

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<v Speaker 4>notice that's my router setup. So there's a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>going on in there.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is all we're looking at is a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of meters. He's got a screen full of meters and

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<v Speaker 3>each one of them is representing an input and an output.

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<v Speaker 4>And as you talk you see it bouncing. Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 4>So this has all my you know, from the clients

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<v Speaker 4>to the clients, from the chat to the chat has

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<v Speaker 4>it's sort of a very big version of the same idea.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's yeah, and with Nexus you get that, so

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<v Speaker 4>you can also set up your this little Nexus review

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<v Speaker 4>thing doesn't quite do what I want. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>go nuts, have fun, go nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're getting steps.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting further away from having to be having needing

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<v Speaker 3>to have an Apollo to do more complicated routing, playback loops,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have a Scarlet two I two just review right.

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<v Speaker 4>And the whole thing about the Apollo, I think, more

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<v Speaker 4>than the routing that it does is the absolute perfect

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<v Speaker 4>real time monitoring and with plugins. If you want to

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<v Speaker 4>have that emulation of the manly and you want to

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<v Speaker 4>run it in real time, and you want your input

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<v Speaker 4>to be cooked into the doll with that processing baked

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<v Speaker 4>into it, that's where the Apollo truly truly shines.

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<v Speaker 3>Does Next Review support plugins, not yet right, not yet,

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<v Speaker 3>it's something, but even if it does, it's native.

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<v Speaker 4>You're always going to have that tiny there's latency. Latency

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<v Speaker 4>that the latency that the kids don't care about, but

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<v Speaker 4>all of us do, right, All the kids are used

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<v Speaker 4>to it, like the little microscopic latency that just sounds like,

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<v Speaker 4>is there two of me? I think, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's not enough to throw you off musically, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's just enough to be a slightly weird REAVERB or

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<v Speaker 4>not even that. So it's always going to have that

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<v Speaker 4>because it's it's software and the Apollo is.

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<v Speaker 3>Hardware, well tangentially related. But I did notice that there

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<v Speaker 3>was a change that's just sort of appeared out of

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<v Speaker 3>the blue on Chrome on my Mac. It used to

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<v Speaker 3>be that no matter what the output in Chrome was

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<v Speaker 3>assigned to. For example, when you're in a Google Meet,

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<v Speaker 3>you can choose what your input and your output is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it would no matter what I said it was

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<v Speaker 3>set to in the Google Meet output. It was using

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<v Speaker 3>Mac system, I couldn't separate the two from each other.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. Now that works, really, it just works now.

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<v Speaker 3>So so for as a long light, long last, when

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<v Speaker 3>I play something back on a web browser, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>can hear it on my playback fader.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you can output Meat to a different output than

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<v Speaker 4>your Mac.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I'm using a road caster, but I have

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<v Speaker 3>the chat channel, which if you were using for example,

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<v Speaker 3>if you were using a passport vo that would be

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<v Speaker 3>the comms channel assigned to our conversation here. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I have my max System sound sent to Maine, which

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<v Speaker 3>is really just the output of the roadcast or the

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<v Speaker 3>main mix, and that now allows me to have playback

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<v Speaker 3>come in on a different set of channels. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>same concept of this virtual channel stuff we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>That's happening inside the mixer of the roadchemists.

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<v Speaker 3>And really this is in this issue where Chrome would

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<v Speaker 3>not be independent from max System sound output channels would

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<v Speaker 3>not allow me to play anything back from Max System.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's so weird because Nexus Gateway could output to

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<v Speaker 4>a different output than the max System audio on Chrome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just a Chrome problem.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, I'm saying NeXT's Gateway on Chrome didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>that problem. Is this just a meat problem? Google Meet?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, it was I think it was Chrome. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>well it could have been Meat because it's the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing I ever used with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Nexus Gateway didn't have that issue. You could pick

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<v Speaker 4>your speed, your output and it would go there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's how that's what Nexus Gateway relies on. It relies

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<v Speaker 4>on sending the output from Nexus Chat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just getting finally, it's getting better and easier for

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<v Speaker 3>people to do these separate mixes. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 3>like those audio mixers now that are like a mind

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<v Speaker 3>meld between the sound driver and the mixer, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So you like, let's say you're doing live streaming and

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<v Speaker 3>you want to have the output of the game and

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<v Speaker 3>the output of the discord chat room where everybody's talking,

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<v Speaker 3>and the you know, the playbacks from something else, and those.

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<v Speaker 1>All show up as separate audio inputs.

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<v Speaker 4>Puts it on the monitor application of the of the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that used to not be possible on Mac, but

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<v Speaker 3>now apparently it is too. That's changed in the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years, Like you can only do that on Windows.

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<v Speaker 4>For a long time, well, Windows gave you a like

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<v Speaker 4>an audio mixer. So in Windows for for many years,

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<v Speaker 4>you could have five applications open and you would have

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<v Speaker 4>a volume slider for each application.

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<v Speaker 1>Groom, you'd have a right, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was actually I think those specifically for the

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<v Speaker 4>like Windows or with Sappy drivers, not not a s

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<v Speaker 4>I O for example. But with Mac, if you wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to change the volume of say iTunes, you had to

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<v Speaker 4>go to iTunes and change the volume. There wasn't just

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<v Speaker 4>a and then that's where uh uh it was it

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<v Speaker 1>And loop loop.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's loop. It's all you. It's Rogua Meba.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think it's loop back. It's one of.

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<v Speaker 3>Their other it's the other things or any any record

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of their apps. And it lets you see

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<v Speaker 4>each one, which is very Windows esque.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So so to wrap it all up, I guess I

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<v Speaker 3>would say that you know the new Nexus.

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<v Speaker 4>The name of it, it's Nexus Suite. So Nexus used

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<v Speaker 3>What is the user If the user wants to recreate

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<v Speaker 3>what we did or what you did for John, what

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<v Speaker 3>do they need?

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<v Speaker 4>They just need to use Nexus Review the standalone app,

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<v Speaker 4>and when they launch it, they just kind of go

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<v Speaker 4>into the preferences and turn on the system audio capture.

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<v Speaker 4>And when they do that, it's done like it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to grab their system audio and it's going to send

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<v Speaker 4>it to the broadcast, and they can click the option

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<v Speaker 4>to send their talk back to the broadcast. Because all

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<v Speaker 4>these apps only have one input. And so the only

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<v Speaker 4>tweak is that instead of whatever it is, Google, Meet, Zoom,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera, instead of making your mic the input, you

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<v Speaker 4>make the Nexus broadcast the input, and that will include

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<v Speaker 4>playback and your microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you don't need to have a roadcaster or

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<v Speaker 3>an Apollo or any of these fancy interfaces. You can

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<v Speaker 3>just have a really basic interface or even a USB mic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then you can play anything back your clients.

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<v Speaker 4>And just so if you're using say twisted wave, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think live streamers will really like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yep, or Audacity, et cetera. I do realize you

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<v Speaker 4>can do twisted wave with your can you No? No,

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<v Speaker 4>it's still it's still the problem with the general chat rooms.

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<v Speaker 4>Got it when you return them?

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<v Speaker 3>Ye? Speaking of twister Wave, I have a whole lot

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<v Speaker 3>of topic we should spin off into another episode about

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<v Speaker 3>twister Wave because they released some.

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<v Speaker 1>New faure your little update on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well let's uh what did they do?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll find out next week.

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