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Speaker 4: Know that's a long that's a long conversation. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was doing a little tech support for someone who was
Speaker 4: using a u A interface with Georgie's wonderful retying of
Speaker 4: the u A knot where he takes the OX one
Speaker 4: and two sends off the u A mixer and makes
Speaker 4: them inputs one in two for the overall u A
Speaker 4: interface with respect to any other software.
Speaker 1: We got, we got it. We got all the wiring.
Speaker 3: And yeah, he just plude editing in different places inside
Speaker 3: the u A console.
Speaker 4: And it's and then and then he and then he
Speaker 4: uses the virtuals of u A, the virtual drivers of
Speaker 4: u A to return the DAW separately from the Mac. Right,
Speaker 4: And that's great because now you can have playback. You
Speaker 4: can return the DAW back to two channels and send
Speaker 4: those two channels to OX one and two off the
Speaker 4: UA mixer, which then basically feeds playback back to your clients. Done.
Speaker 3: That's the loop back thing. Everybody's always asking me, can
Speaker 3: you set up loop back? How can I do a
Speaker 3: loop back?
Speaker 1: I needed, you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this this user was doing podcasts and he
Speaker 4: wanted to play back his overall desktop audio.
Speaker 3: So now coming out of the Mac system correct coming
Speaker 3: out had to go back down the line. And the
Speaker 3: down the line part was also based on system sound
Speaker 3: right because it was right Chrome.
Speaker 4: So the issue here is that, like you know, you
Speaker 4: have Chrome, Zoom, et cetera. It's outputting to the Mac driver,
Speaker 4: which you use virtual three four that shows up on
Speaker 4: the console in three four and then you want to
Speaker 4: send playback to that, so you so you route ox
Speaker 4: one and two to two there, but what's on the
Speaker 4: Mac the return of the Google Meet and there's your loop,
Speaker 4: and you can't get around it. Because you say, okay, fine,
Speaker 4: I'm going to return the Mac output one in two
Speaker 4: instead of three and four, you still have the same problem.
Speaker 4: It returns. The problem always is that Zoom whoever it is,
Speaker 4: is coming back the same place that all your other
Speaker 4: Mac playback is coming to.
Speaker 1: You can't separate them.
Speaker 4: So I said, you know you're going to need Nexus
Speaker 4: for this and all the things that Nexus does. Specifically,
Speaker 4: all he really needed was Nexus Review, which is this
Speaker 4: standalone app and when you launch Nexus Review has an
Speaker 4: option to capture the system audio. So what it does
Speaker 4: is it takes whatever your system audio is in this
Speaker 4: case goes UA and it says, nope, I'm going to
Speaker 4: send it to this Nexus system audio device. Now it's
Speaker 4: got it. And it brings that into Nexus Review, and
Speaker 4: the Nexus Review says, what was your system output? Oh,
Speaker 4: it was the UA. I'll make my output the UA.
Speaker 4: So now everything is return to the UA, but the
Speaker 4: system is playing back through the system audio Nexus device,
Speaker 4: and we can blend that into the input of where
Speaker 4: your talkback is also inputting too. So Nexus Review can
Speaker 4: grab your talkback MIC, it can grab your system audio
Speaker 4: send it to an input, and that input doesn't have
Speaker 4: your output from the UA in it, and therefore you
Speaker 4: don't have the.
Speaker 3: So it's a little mixer, sort of a monor mixer
Speaker 3: with a mixed minus built in built into it.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's exactly right, sneak.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: And when you launch the app, it automatically grabs your
Speaker 4: system audio, and when you quit the app, it sends
Speaker 4: your system audio back to wherever it was originally going to.
Speaker 4: So if you're not using it, it undoes what it did.
Speaker 3: And you recommend for a lot of folks that once
Speaker 3: do you recommend it, they auto load it so it's
Speaker 3: always loading and it's always there, or do you really
Speaker 3: recommend they load it only when they need it depends.
Speaker 4: You could literally set it in the applications. You know,
Speaker 4: auto boot in your system, your systems set up. You
Speaker 4: could literally do that. It just depends on how if.
Speaker 4: I mean, because literally you can just have it there
Speaker 4: and then everything goes through there. And the other nice
Speaker 4: thing is that then you've got a separate fader for
Speaker 4: your client return, for your your talk back, your return
Speaker 4: of the Mac. And it has a separate input for
Speaker 4: a broadcast end. So you can have two separate inputs,
Speaker 4: the Mac capture and a separate output you could like
Speaker 4: output your dowed to it. It just depends if you
Speaker 4: want to have it always running. You could certainly just
Speaker 4: have it automatically launch. I mean, that's what I do.
Speaker 4: I have a much more massive version of this going on.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have ever seen my screen,
Speaker 4: but I instead of just having the simple you know,
Speaker 4: Nexus Review, which really is just a set of routes,
Speaker 4: I use Router and if I share my whole screen,
Speaker 4: you will notice out of my way, but you will
Speaker 4: notice that's my router setup. So there's a lot more
Speaker 4: going on in there.
Speaker 3: But this is all we're looking at is a bunch
Speaker 3: of meters. He's got a screen full of meters and
Speaker 3: each one of them is representing an input and an output.
Speaker 4: And as you talk you see it bouncing. Okay, cool,
Speaker 4: So this has all my you know, from the clients
Speaker 4: to the clients, from the chat to the chat has
Speaker 4: it's sort of a very big version of the same idea.
Speaker 4: So there's yeah, and with Nexus you get that, so
Speaker 4: you can also set up your this little Nexus review
Speaker 4: thing doesn't quite do what I want. I want to
Speaker 4: go nuts, have fun, go nuts.
Speaker 1: So we're getting steps.
Speaker 3: We're getting further away from having to be having needing
Speaker 3: to have an Apollo to do more complicated routing, playback loops,
Speaker 3: et cetera.
Speaker 1: You could have a Scarlet two I two just review right.
Speaker 4: And the whole thing about the Apollo, I think, more
Speaker 4: than the routing that it does is the absolute perfect
Speaker 4: real time monitoring and with plugins. If you want to
Speaker 4: have that emulation of the manly and you want to
Speaker 4: run it in real time, and you want your input
Speaker 4: to be cooked into the doll with that processing baked
Speaker 4: into it, that's where the Apollo truly truly shines.
Speaker 3: Does Next Review support plugins, not yet right, not yet,
Speaker 3: it's something, but even if it does, it's native.
Speaker 4: You're always going to have that tiny there's latency. Latency
Speaker 4: that the latency that the kids don't care about, but
Speaker 4: all of us do, right, All the kids are used
Speaker 4: to it, like the little microscopic latency that just sounds like,
Speaker 4: is there two of me? I think, I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like it's not enough to throw you off musically, but
Speaker 4: it's just enough to be a slightly weird REAVERB or
Speaker 4: not even that. So it's always going to have that
Speaker 4: because it's it's software and the Apollo is.
Speaker 3: Hardware, well tangentially related. But I did notice that there
Speaker 3: was a change that's just sort of appeared out of
Speaker 3: the blue on Chrome on my Mac. It used to
Speaker 3: be that no matter what the output in Chrome was
Speaker 3: assigned to. For example, when you're in a Google Meet,
Speaker 3: you can choose what your input and your output is.
Speaker 3: But it would no matter what I said it was
Speaker 3: set to in the Google Meet output. It was using
Speaker 3: Mac system, I couldn't separate the two from each other.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Now that works, really, it just works now.
Speaker 3: So so for as a long light, long last, when
Speaker 3: I play something back on a web browser, you guys
Speaker 3: can hear it on my playback fader.
Speaker 4: Because you can output Meat to a different output than
Speaker 4: your Mac.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm using a road caster, but I have
Speaker 3: the chat channel, which if you were using for example,
Speaker 3: if you were using a passport vo that would be
Speaker 3: the comms channel assigned to our conversation here. And then
Speaker 3: I have my max System sound sent to Maine, which
Speaker 3: is really just the output of the roadcast or the
Speaker 3: main mix, and that now allows me to have playback
Speaker 3: come in on a different set of channels. It's the
Speaker 3: same concept of this virtual channel stuff we're talking about.
Speaker 4: That's happening inside the mixer of the roadchemists.
Speaker 3: And really this is in this issue where Chrome would
Speaker 3: not be independent from max System sound output channels would
Speaker 3: not allow me to play anything back from Max System.
Speaker 4: But that's so weird because Nexus Gateway could output to
Speaker 4: a different output than the max System audio on Chrome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just a Chrome problem.
Speaker 4: But no, I'm saying NeXT's Gateway on Chrome didn't have
Speaker 4: that problem. Is this just a meat problem? Google Meet?
Speaker 1: No, No, it was I think it was Chrome. I think,
Speaker 1: well it could have been Meat because it's the only
Speaker 1: thing I ever used with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nexus Gateway didn't have that issue. You could pick
Speaker 4: your speed, your output and it would go there. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's how that's what Nexus Gateway relies on. It relies
Speaker 4: on sending the output from Nexus Chat.
Speaker 3: It's just getting finally, it's getting better and easier for
Speaker 3: people to do these separate mixes. And then you've got
Speaker 3: like those audio mixers now that are like a mind
Speaker 3: meld between the sound driver and the mixer, you know.
Speaker 3: So you like, let's say you're doing live streaming and
Speaker 3: you want to have the output of the game and
Speaker 3: the output of the discord chat room where everybody's talking,
Speaker 3: and the you know, the playbacks from something else, and those.
Speaker 1: All show up as separate audio inputs.
Speaker 4: Puts it on the monitor application of the of the Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that used to not be possible on Mac, but
Speaker 3: now apparently it is too. That's changed in the last
Speaker 3: couple of years, Like you can only do that on Windows.
Speaker 4: For a long time, well, Windows gave you a like
Speaker 4: an audio mixer. So in Windows for for many years,
Speaker 4: you could have five applications open and you would have
Speaker 4: a volume slider for each application.
Speaker 1: Groom, you'd have a right, I don't.
Speaker 4: And that was actually I think those specifically for the
Speaker 4: like Windows or with Sappy drivers, not not a s
Speaker 4: I O for example. But with Mac, if you wanted
Speaker 4: to change the volume of say iTunes, you had to
Speaker 4: go to iTunes and change the volume. There wasn't just
Speaker 4: a and then that's where uh uh it was it
Speaker 4: Roguamba or one of the one of the companies has
Speaker 4: like an app that kind of somehow gets into it.
Speaker 1: And loop loop.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's loop. It's all you. It's Rogua Meba.
Speaker 4: But I don't think it's loop back. It's one of.
Speaker 3: Their other it's the other things or any any record
Speaker 3: all or any record.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that.
Speaker 4: It's one of their apps. And it lets you see
Speaker 4: all your different apps and have a volume slider for
Speaker 4: each one, which is very Windows esque.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so to wrap it all up, I guess I
Speaker 3: would say that you know the new Nexus.
Speaker 4: The name of it, it's Nexus Suite. So Nexus used
Speaker 4: to be does this plug in and now it's a
Speaker 4: suite of plugins and desktop software.
Speaker 3: What is the user If the user wants to recreate
Speaker 3: what we did or what you did for John, what
Speaker 3: do they need?
Speaker 4: They just need to use Nexus Review the standalone app,
Speaker 4: and when they launch it, they just kind of go
Speaker 4: into the preferences and turn on the system audio capture.
Speaker 4: And when they do that, it's done like it's going
Speaker 4: to grab their system audio and it's going to send
Speaker 4: it to the broadcast, and they can click the option
Speaker 4: to send their talk back to the broadcast. Because all
Speaker 4: these apps only have one input. And so the only
Speaker 4: tweak is that instead of whatever it is, Google, Meet, Zoom,
Speaker 4: et cetera, instead of making your mic the input, you
Speaker 4: make the Nexus broadcast the input, and that will include
Speaker 4: playback and your microphone.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: So now you don't need to have a roadcaster or
Speaker 3: an Apollo or any of these fancy interfaces. You can
Speaker 3: just have a really basic interface or even a USB mic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you can play anything back your clients.
Speaker 4: And just so if you're using say twisted wave, I.
Speaker 1: Think live streamers will really like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, or Audacity, et cetera. I do realize you
Speaker 4: can do twisted wave with your can you No? No,
Speaker 4: it's still it's still the problem with the general chat rooms.
Speaker 4: Got it when you return them?
Speaker 3: Ye? Speaking of twister Wave, I have a whole lot
Speaker 3: of topic we should spin off into another episode about
Speaker 3: twister Wave because they released some.
Speaker 1: New faure your little update on that.
Speaker 4: Okay, well let's uh what did they do?
Speaker 1: We'll find out next week.
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