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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time.

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Speaker 2: This is Big Fight Weekend. Now here is your host,

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DJ Leaves. Well, we get ready for another weekend in January,

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kind of a later weekend, but we aren't here in

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the preview mode. We actually have a world title fight

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to recap here in a couple of seconds, if we're

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not all thoroughly screwed up from all of that. It

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is the Big Fight Weekend Preview podcast. Hello there, I

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am the somewhat capable host, TJ. Reeves. He is our

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insider Dan Rayfield. Fight Freaks Unit is the substack, the newsletter.

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You should be all over that. Good to be back

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with you. We got some fight news. We've even got

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some nostalgia. You're in northern Virginia. I'm in Florida, where

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it's cold for us in northern Virginia. You've had snow,

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but and you're kind of grumpy. I'm just gonna put

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this out there as we released this Thursday night into Friday.

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You're kind of grumpy about the snow situation.

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Speaker 1: In that grumpy it's not even a bunch of snow.

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The snow is, you know, it came to land on

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everybody's grass and the yards and roads on Monday, and

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it's been cold but cleared up. The problem is they

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don't know how to remove snow. See, I'm a I'm

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a Northerner at heart. I grew up in upstate New York,

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where a foot of snow was not a big deal. Here,

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you get three inches in the world comes to a

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grinding hall. So the kids have been out of school

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in our area for four days, oh finally, and that was.

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Speaker 2: Only four days. Only four days they've been out this

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week right.

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Speaker 1: As bad as that is, that was on the back

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end of a two week winter break. So now at

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long last, on Friday, they're back in school, but starts

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two hours late, and then they're back for two more

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days of a weekend. So it's been so.

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Speaker 2: Basically we're talking about seven hours or so of education

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in your county over the last three weeks.

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Speaker 1: It won't even be like because they'll be starting at

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ten thirty tomorrow morning, five hours and they're out at

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lake three thirty.

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Speaker 2: All right, In any event, you have that going on again,

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a tremendous horror in southern California. In all seriousness, Dan,

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you are the same with me. We've been watching this

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from a distance with horror in La County and the

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fires and the thousands of people affected who have lost

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their homes. Let me say again, thousands of people have

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lost their homes, businesses. Speaking of schools, there have been

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elementary schools, a couple of them in Pacific Palisades, California,

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wiped out. And this I mean, as we do this

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Thursday nine into Friday, this is not letting up, and

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it is unfortunately apparently going to still go on into

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Friday and maybe Saturday. So I've been an awful situation.

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Speaker 1: I have been checking in on my boxing people. I

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know a lot of people throughout the boxing industry and

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the sport in southern California, and have checked in with

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a bunch of people, and everybody has different levels of

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issues obviously, but thankfully, nobody that I have been in

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touch with, it's probably like ten people, a dozen people,

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none of them thankfully have lost their homes that had

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so a couple have been evacuated, and others are a

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little concerned obviously because of maybe coming closer. But you know,

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it's it's a rough situation.

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Speaker 2: And let me say this, I have numerous media friends,

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work colleagues, people that I know there are numerous ones

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of them that have had to evacuate that live in

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western La County, live near Santa Monica, live near Malibu,

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et cetera. It's it's awful. It's you know, they're they're

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leaving and evacuating, not knowing am I going to have

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anything to come back to. And there's only so much

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you can take with you, belongings that you can take

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with you to try to leave during this so awful circumstance.

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Our hearts go out to all of that. I'm just

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gonna say, we don't have to get into a ten

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minute political discussion. There needs to be a reckoning on

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how this got as horrible as it got Monday to Tuesday,

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Tuesday to Wednesday, and Wednesday to Thursday. And let's let's

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see what gets done on that front. Okay. Other than that,

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we'll try to cheer it up. We'll try to spice

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it up. We talk to sweet Science. We do this

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going into the weekend. We normally recap coming off the weekend. Okay,

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full disclosure, there is a British fight card uh this

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weekend with a main event of what callum give Me?

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I can't keep my callum straight? This is the super middleweight.

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It's Callum Simpson, right, which Calum is it Callum Simpson

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Speaker 1: The this is the boxer card that takes place on

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on Peakcock in the United States. Callum Simpson versus Steve Woodhall.

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This is for Simpsons, British and Commonwealth titles at super middleweight.

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And the co feature is the outstanding WBC Women's lightweight

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Champion Carolyn Duwad defending her title against Jessica Kamara. We

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will discuss that and handicap it on the US Boxing

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Speaker 2: Listen to the t's that's outstanding. It's Daniel dubois sister

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by the way, So well, handicap those fights on Friday.

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But look at this, all right, So we've been I've

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been off kilter all week because on the recap podcast

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we were previewing Opataia and his cruise away and then

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and then we now have the result, and so now

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we're on the preview podcast recapping White.

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Speaker 1: Is Blackness the Recap podcast sort.

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Speaker 2: Of in a way, all right, so Ji Opataia does

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get his knockout. You and I are not surprised by that.

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get the ko against David Naika, a new Zealander. These guys,

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as we as we led into this, are familiar with

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each other, had trained and sparred with each other. And

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I will say I've I've rewatched the fight now. Opataia

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did get the knockout. Naika caught him a couple of times,

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so this was interesting. And then eventually a brutal knockout

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after a knockdown, a brutal knockout where he had him

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heard along the ropes and one more big booming left

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laid Naika out face first, and it was scary for

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a minute or two because he was down and not

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moving for a while. All right, Dan, your thoughts in

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the recap mode on the IBF Cruiserweight Champion to ding

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his title a game with another rough knockout win for him.

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Speaker 1: It was an excellent performance from Opataiya, obviously spectacular knockout.

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Naika should be commended for taking the fight on three

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weeks notice. This was because of the mandatory opponent that

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dropped out with an injury and Naika. You know, it

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took a flyer. He was only ten to Oh they're

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the same age, but he's got far less professional experience

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than he can though had a big well. Opatai was

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a big amateur also, Naika was a big amateur. He

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had a bronze medal in the Olympic Games, the delayed

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Tokyo Olympics that took place in twenty twenty one, and

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he was still on the rise. Obviously, in a perfect world,

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he wouldn't have taken this fight this early in his career.

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a chance to fight for a major world title, obviously

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you're going to get a much larger paycheck thing you

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probably have been making in your previous fights. So they

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took the gamble. I respect that, and it's sort of

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the same thing that Opataia said after the fight. I

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respect that what he did, and he didn't come to

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mess around and to run and hide and not make

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a fight. He came to fight the guy and it

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was an outstanding first round where it was very close.

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go either way, and it looked like Naika might be

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in the fight and then you know, Opataia I basically

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some hard shots from Ka. The thing is, Jayapatia has

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got an outstanding chin, and we've seen that before in

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his first fight with Marius Bradust and one or two

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other fights he has had, and he took whatever that

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he can had to offer. And so if they're both

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good punchers and one guy takes a lot better than

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the other, you can pretty much figure out how it's

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it was sort of like Obataia is breaking him down,

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getting closer, hitting them with cleaner shots. The height advantage

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that Nayka had he was about four and just taller

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really didn't seem to make much of a difference, and

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eventually it was all she wrote because he caught him

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with some outstanding punches, a big upper cut and you know,

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just heavy punches, and he put him down and you know,

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he just wasn't you know, even if even though he

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got up kind of quickly, it was pretty obvious though

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that that fight had to be stopped. He was going

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to get badly badly hurt and they had the American

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a referee, David Fields, who good handling big guys. He

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did a good job in that fight the way that

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he stopped it, and look Opataia as expected, like you mentioned,

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he gets the knockout win. I think Naika, yes, he

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was down on the canvas for a couple of minutes.

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He had to get some medical attentions. He didn't do

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an interview after the fight. Obviously, he didn't go to

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the press conference to my understanding, but he did post

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on his Instagram today basically saying, like you know, I'm

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still here. I'm gonna make another run. The job doesn't

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end here. Congratulated Opatia said he fought a great fight.

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I hope that Naika comes back because he's interesting, he's

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a good fighter. He just was in over his head

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this early in his professional career against the guy that's

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the very best in the weight class that you could

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argue maybe he could inch his way on to the

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bottom top ten of the pound for poundless potentially. And also,

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you know, he didn't have the full training camp. I

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mean you can say, yeah, okay, Nayika didn't have the

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full camp, but neither did Opataia because he was switching opponents,

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he was training for a different So, you know, I

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think that even I'm glad Nayika was okay and he

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didn't get badly hurt obviously, So if he can shake

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off the physical aspects and put it behind him, I

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terms of realizing the level you got to be at

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if you really want to be the top guy in

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the division. I'm gona tell you right now, TJ. You know,

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in the not too distant future that cruiserweight division is

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going to open up a bit because guys like Opatai

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and Zero, et cetera. They're gonna probably move up again

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in a wait and so a guy like Nika, with

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that experience and his obvious talent may be there to

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sort of fill that void. But Opataia, man, he is

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he's busy right now. Ever since he came back from

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the jaw injury against Bratest in the first fight they had,

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he's been active. He may not have been fighting the

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top top guys, but he did beat Brightest, in a

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second fight he fought Nayiki. He's been active on these

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and they're they're lining other stuff up for him.

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Speaker 2: This is the point in the proceedings where I tee

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you up and say, what do you think is likely next?

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You hinted before that maybe that named Zerto Ramirez in unification.

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What's realistic for him in the next fight or this year?

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Speaker 1: Well, I do think that the Zero fight is realistic.

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he basically looked into the camera on the you know,

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the broadcast, and he says, you know, Zerto, I'm coming

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for you. You know, basically like that, you know, in a

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you know, funny, good nature kind of way. He wants

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to fight for the other belts. Zerto has two of them.

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that took place in Riad on the Latino Night card

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a couple of months ago. And that's a realistic possibility.

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But it's one thing for OPATAI to say, that's what

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I want. That's what Ramirez said after he defeated BILLM. Smith.

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It's what Eddie Hearn and the rest of the Opataya

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brain trust would like to do Mick Francis from Tasman

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Fighters the co promoter. They want that fight. Also, Oscar

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de la Hoya from Goldenway, he's the promoter for a zerto.

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They want to do the fight. Turkey Afshik wants to

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do the fight in terms of another unification. So that's

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well and good, and I believe that fight could be

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made actually rather easily relative to your typical big time

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unification fight. But you can't just run over the rights

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of a mandatory challenger. And Yunil Dordkos is the WBA

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mandatory challenger. He is a former title holder. He's an

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excellent fighter in his own right, and they made a

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deal with him to step aside in order to allow

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Zerdo Ramirez and Chris Bill and Smith to get their fight.

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And the stipulation was he's next, So he's next until

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further notice. Golden Boy has talked to their people about it,

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but that's not to say for the right offer and

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the right circumstance and the right scenario that he would

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not step aside again. But I spoke to his people

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actually a couple of days ago because I was curious

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myself about how they were going to handle this, and

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they're like, look, my guy's thirty eight years old. He's

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got to get his opportunity. And we know we can't

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sit around and there is no step aside at this

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moment because we haven't been offered anything. So they'll listen.

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So in the end, if Turkey wants to fight and

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everybody involv wants to do the unification, they're going to

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have to take care of Dordkos And that could be

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a combination of financial riches as well as, you know,

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keep him active so he doesn't just die on the vine.

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a reasonable fight on the undercard, something along those lines.

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Are paying for him to be on some other card

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at another point. But I do think that fight can happen,

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and I believe that the Door to Coast people will

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play ball, but they're gonna have to get treated the

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right way. You can't just run over their rights. So

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I do think that can happen.

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Speaker 2: All right. So that's the old Patia story in the.

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Speaker 1: Cart, and let me say what I think about it.

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What else, more so than just the notion that we

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may see a Ramirez fight down the road.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, even if he does the mandatory zero, that could

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take place sometime in like spring summer. I would still

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leave open the possibility of the unification with Opataiya, you know,

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in the fall. So I do think that one way

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or the other, that fight probably does happen this year,

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whether it's immediately next or maybe one more fight after

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who knows, but more in the future. This was not

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Opataia talking about this now. He has said that he

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does intend at some point to be a heavyweight, and

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I I don't know if you can think of a

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cruiserweight champion at some point that was meaningful that didn't

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go after a heavyweight career to try to become a

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heavyweight champion, to do something in the heavyweight division where

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you can eat more and you can make more money.

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Of course, but Eddie Hearn, He's like basically saying, look,

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ji Opataiah is humble enough to not talk about guys

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like Alexander Hussa. He has unfinished business in the cruiserweights.

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He wants to unify the belts there, which means fighting

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Ramirez maybe then also fighting for the WBC title against

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bad Du Jack whoever emerges with that belt from his

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fight with Ryan Roziki, that's going to be coming up

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as a mandatory. But at some point they want to

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try to make that Alexander Usik fight, you know. And

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I'm sure Eddie look a lot of its hype, and

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I get that, saying like he thinks that the only

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guy that can really give him a run for his

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money in the cruiserweight division or the heavyweight division right

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now is Giobatire. Remember Husks already beating Fury twice. He's

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already beating Joshua twice, so again that's not immediate. But

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Eddie's perspective was, hey, trust this is the quote that

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he gave as part of the interview trust me in

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twelve to eighteen months die Obataya against Alexander Usik is

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an all time classic, and I must say, style wise,

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it's a really interesting fight. I mean, they're both they're

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bothweight camps.

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Speaker 2: I understand, and he's got a java do. But I

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ain't going along with it's gonna be an all time classic, I.

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Speaker 1: Understand, but it would be a good fight. It would

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be a good That's I don't believe that Obataia would

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be outclassed by Osik.

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Speaker 2: No. I mean he's got to put on more weight too,

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So I don't know that much weight.

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Speaker 1: He's already two hundred pounds. He doesn't, you know, put

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on ten to fifteen pounds. You know, Usik goes about

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two twenty. It's not he's not a huge heavyweight by

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today's heavyweight standards. Why they're not that different?

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. More to come on what Opataiah does, including

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staying active, which he has been on these read season cards.

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All right, So on the co feature, Justice Hooney, the

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Australian heavyweight, did blast out Sean pott Geater, the relatively

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unknown South African it only fought in South Africa, and

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whacked him out quickly. Rayfield was I not selling to you,

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but I think won. He can punch, and obviously pot

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Geter would agree with me right about now? All right,

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tell me what you saw out of the co feature

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and then obviously that segues into what's next for Hooney

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and how quick can he move up maybe into a

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contender status.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Pocketer was just worse than I expected. Put

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it like that. I mean, and I'm not knocking Hooney.

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He looked really good. He did his job, but Pocketer

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was he was a big disappointment. Not that he was

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expected to do anything and win or anything like that,

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but it was he just was wide open and basically

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Whoney landed the right hand to the head and rocked

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him and then left to a body and you know,

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he put him in the ropes and he was just

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teen off on him and at that point the rep's

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gonna stop the fight every time. So that was a

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TKO in the second round. And you know, again Whooney

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has been active like Opa Ti. This was him coming back.

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You know, it was a second fight in less than

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a month. He had just fought on a car December eleventh,

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so less than one month since his previous fight. He

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said afterwards. He didn't get into details. He's dealing with

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some kind of small injury, so he wants to get

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back in the ring quickly, but it's going to be

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a little bit of time, I guess, to heal up

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from whatever his issue is. But right now, who is

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he's not a contender yet. He's twelve and zero, but

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he's still a little rough around the edges, if you

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know what I mean. He needs some work. He's a

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little bit raw. He there's no rush man. He's twenty

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five years old. He he just needs the reps. He

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needs the experience, and that's you know, never is that

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more significant than when you're fighting in the heavyweight division.

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He put you know, learn some of your craft a

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little better and continue to hone your skills, continue to

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get the reps, and that's the biggest thing. And if

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he can stay active and fight you know, four, four

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or five times even, and he'll get himself another half

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a dozen fights or so at that point, maybe he'll

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be ready for something bigger. Right now, he's not even

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close to that level, but he's at least somebody to

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keep an eye on. He has a good style to

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watch if you're a fan. He seems to have an

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enjoyable personality and hopefully he can you know, continue to develop.

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I mean, I'll tell you one thing, TJ. The boxing

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world can never have enough interesting heavyweights.

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Speaker 2: And he's a big dude, and he's got a back

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in the Brisbane Eastern Coast Beach area of Australia. So

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what does that ultimately mean can he step up in

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competition and succeed. We'll find out. We'll find out later

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this year. In probably twenty twenty six or Justice Hooney,

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remember that name, all right, So now we move to

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some news, including an announcement. We still don't have a

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lot in January, but we're finally bringing things together for February,

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where we're going to have one interesting fight weekend after another.

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So Top Rank officially announced the February fourteenth triple header

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at the Madison Square Garden Theater, headlined by Keishawn Davis

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going for a world title against Denny's Baranchik for the

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WBO lightweight title. All right, and it also includes Xander

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Zias and I saw the name Jared Anderson added to

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this car too, So tell me more about all the

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fights that they announced coming next month.

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Speaker 1: So is Keishawn fighting Branschak challenging for the WBO lightweight title.

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Not at all surprised. That's sort of been expected ever

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since uh Kishan annihilated Gustavu Lamos in the recent fight

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a few weeks ago. That was his first fight in Norfolk, Virginia,

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which is Kishan's hometown, and so the anticipation was that

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he would challenge for the title. He was highly ranked

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by the IBF as well as by the WBO. They

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went to WBO route. Remember Top Rank had has as

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an option on Brentchick's next fight from the deal that

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they had when he fought for the vacant title against

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their guy, Emmanuel never Hate on a Top Rank show

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when the Brunchack won that fight, and if you remember,

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back before fought Gustavo Lamos, I had done an interview

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with him and they played on our podcast. And one

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of the things that Kishan mentioned to me in that interview,

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which had not heard until he said it to me,

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was that he and Denny's Branchak had been direct messaging

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each other on their social media and talking about fighting

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each other. So that was sort of the goal and

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the plan all along that if he would get past

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the Lamos fight, which he did in spectacular fashion, that

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they would line up this title fight. So he's coming

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to New York City and he's going to take on Branchick, who's,

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you know, a dangerous guy. You know, he's kind of

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like took him, you know, many years to be com

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an overnight sensation up. That makes sense. He's nineteen to oh,

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but he's not young. He's thirty six years old. He

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was a silver medal winner for Ukraine in the twenty

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twelve and a big so a long time ago, but

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he was on the vaunted team that also included Alexander

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Ustik and ves Aiolomachenko and Alexander Vodzik. I mean, that's

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a tremendous group of four world champions together on that

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same team. But obviously given the fact that Kishan is

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the A side just based on him being an American, being

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his promotion, him being the American. You know, he's a

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decade plus younger and he's been looking spectacular. So Brent

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chicks gonna have to do, you know, real work to

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derail the Kishan Davis Express. So that's the main event day.

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God Xander Zaias the junior middleweight who's obviously developed a

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popularity in the New York area. In New York City

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given his Puerto Rican heritage. He's fought there now, you

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know several times. He'll be in the co feature against

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the fighter from Germany. Thinks slawas Spammer Spohmer rather who's

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also defeated. They're both twenty to oh. Zaias has twelve knockouts,

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Spammer has eleven knockouts. He's a little bit older though

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Zaias is only twenty two a Spawlmer is thirty two,

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but it is seemingly on paper anyway, like a halfway

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decent step off for Xander. And then you have in

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the opening fight Vito Milnicky, who's got a fan base

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in j New Jersey, who I'm sure will bring fans

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with him to the Garden Theater. He is in a

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fight on that against the Irish fighter Connor Coyle, who

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is undefeated. And you look eventually and I don't think

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it's gonna be necessarily next, but no Nicky is moving

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up to middleweight for this fight. Xander is fighting at

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dream middleweight. He's gonna be a middleweight soon enough at

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some point. One of the things they're going to look

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to do with top rank his match up Xander Zias

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against Vito Milnicki, which will be a very good popular

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fan fight for their fan bases, the Puerto Ricans and

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the Jersey folks, and they come together at the Garden.

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It'll be kind of a big fun, kind of a

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big fun of them. So that's the co feature, and

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Noil Nicky is the opening fight. And then as you mentioned,

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they've got a bunch of interesting things on the preliminary card.

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So if you looked at my recently published top fifteen

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prospects of the year, led by the Prospect of the

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Year Moses E. Tama. On that list are some other

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top ranked prospects. One of them is the Dominican Republic

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olympian from twenty twenty a welterweight, really been a junior

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walter rate. Now he's gonna be fighting at the welterweight division,

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who I think is tremendous, very exciting, Rohan Polanco. He's undefeated.

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He's taken on a Puerto Rican fighter, John Carlos Torrez.

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The number two prospect on my list was the lightweight

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Abdullah Mason spectacular twenty twenty four with Moult you know,

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knocked everybody out. Had that little issue in the last

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fight he had where he got dropped twice in the

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first round, but came back and knocked him out in

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the second round. So Abdullah Mason will make his twenty

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and twenty five debut on that card. He got the

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olympian who was Keishawn's Olympic teammate. The welterweight Tiger Johnson

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is on the card and also Nico Ali Walsh and

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As I mentioned, Jared Anderson, he will be back, and

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this was going to be his first fight obviously since

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he got destroyed by Martin Bucoli. So we're gonna see

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if Jared Anderson how he rebounds from a horrendous, horrendous loss.

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Not that losing to Macoli so bad, but the way

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that it happened. We've got the shit kicked out of him.

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00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: And it's not only that. There have been question marks

470
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,200
about whether this guy really cares, is his heart really

471
00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:16,559
in it, et cetera. So the first indication is apparently

472
00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:19,079
he wants to try, But what is he going to

473
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,160
look like here? What kind of shape is he in?

474
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,480
Does he get rid of an opponent, a beatable opponent,

475
00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:25,920
you'd have to think fairly quickly.

476
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: Or they're matching. They're matching him. There's a reason why

477
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,880
he's not on the main cart. Okay, they're matching him

478
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,519
very very what's the word I'm.

479
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: Looking for, strategically?

480
00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: Sure, so it's not like they're matching with a completely.

481
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: He's not fighting a ring post, but it's close, is what.

482
00:22:44,039 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: You're a fighter from Greece named Marios Kolias who's twelve

483
00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,000
three and one with ten knockouts, who's thirty three years old.

484
00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:55,400
This is supposed to be let's ease you back in,

485
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,559
Let's get you some confidence. Maybe you can go one

486
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,200
or two or three rounds and get rid of the guy.

487
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,079
But we want to you want to go through the

488
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,880
process of getting those hands wrapped and walking up the

489
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,160
steps and the bright lights and trying to deal with

490
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,519
the mental part of you know, I spent a lot

491
00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:11,960
of years at ESPN and working with with Teddy Alice.

492
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,720
I've had many conversations with Teddy Alis over the years

493
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,839
about the mental part of of this situation with boxing.

494
00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:22,200
And this is one of those situations where it's not

495
00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:25,880
about necessarily the opponent, it's can I get over the

496
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,319
mental aspect of what's been going on? And so that's

497
00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:29,200
what this is all about.

498
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: All right. So there's the big UH and and.

499
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: One more one more item from that, by the way,

500
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,640
The UH the twenty twenty four Puerto Rican Olympian who

501
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,200
was the son of Juan Male Lopez, who was a

502
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,119
former world champion in two way classes, who was with

503
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,200
top rank for many years and had a good run.

504
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,920
His son is going to be turning pro one meta

505
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,160
Lopez one meta Lopez de Jesus, who is a junior bantamwade.

506
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480
He will have his professional debut. Top Rank has signed

507
00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:57,039
him back, you know, a couple of months ago, and

508
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,880
now he's making his debut on this on this card.

509
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,599
So that's a lot of stuff, A good matchup in

510
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,759
the main event, some decent stuff on the regular card,

511
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:10,400
some interesting, not necessarily huge competition fights on the undercard,

512
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,559
the prelims, but certainly a lot of good names that

513
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:14,279
you're gonna want to check out if you're a fan

514
00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:17,440
of several you know, some of my prospects, and the

515
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,000
return of Jared Anderson is gonna have a lot of

516
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,200
people interested to see what this man, how he's going

517
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,720
to handle coming off such a brutal rough loss to Bocoli.

518
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: All right, interesting that there is some news from this week. Hey,

519
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,440
you love it when I do this. I thought Teya

520
00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:39,599
Femo Lopez and Suprio Mattias were fighting coming up for

521
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:42,920
lopez is one hundred and forty pound crown. Didn't we

522
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:48,319
discuss that this was being finalized? Apparently not so final.

523
00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:51,039
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was being finalized.

524
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: No, I said, didn't we discussed? We did that this

525
00:24:53,319 --> 00:24:57,319
was supposedly being finalized. I say again, it's not only

526
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,960
not so final, it's not happening. Correct.

527
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,039
Speaker 1: Correct. There is a big difference in quote being finalized

528
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,359
and many other ways that you could characterize a fight

529
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:16,720
being discussed in negotiations, discussing terms, blah blah blah. So

530
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:21,000
I don't know. I've been a journalist for my entire

531
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,279
My only real job I've ever had since you know, college,

532
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:28,640
has been a sports writer and learning about how to

533
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,960
write and how to phrase things and write things and

534
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,200
report things. Words matter. When you say being finalized, that

535
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:38,759
means they're changing the paperworker. They've got the terms agree to.

536
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,519
Speaker 2: But we always we always say this with free agent

537
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:45,960
contracts in team sports, we say this in any kind

538
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,200
of deals in business. Whenever you read or hear about

539
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,279
these deals, that means they have agreed. That means there

540
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,640
are there are a couple of things to work out,

541
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,880
but they have agreed. And obviously this didn't get to

542
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,799
the point where these.

543
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: Two are, No, they never did. So here's what my

544
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,079
reporting tells. When I've talked to several people that have

545
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,240
been involved in this back and forth. So they started

546
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,640
to discuss this fight probably a month or month, maybe

547
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,359
five six weeks ago about doing Lopez in his first

548
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,279
fight in a while against Subrial Mattias, who was the

549
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,359
former IBF title holder but had come off you know,

550
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,880
I lost the belt. Toparo had come back and fought

551
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,359
in Puerto Rico, you know, in a lower level kind

552
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,119
of fight, got an early knockout, and and today the

553
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,279
truth if they had made Lopez and Ti Fimo against

554
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:33,519
Subril Mattias, I think that's a really good fight. Actually,

555
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:36,119
like that's a fun fight to watch now. They they

556
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,000
were talking about as a pay per view. I totally

557
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:40,359
disagree with that aspect of it, but that's a different matter.

558
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,799
The reality is, again from what I am told the

559
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,759
Mattias fight, Mattias side, rather Mattias and his team, his promoter,

560
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,160
his people, they had agreed to the terms of Top

561
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,319
Rank hadn't really necessarily signed a contract, but they were

562
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,599
on board and there was no issues there. All this

563
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,000
came down to what was going on between Top Rank

564
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,960
and Ti Fimo Lopez, and if you follow their up

565
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,400
and down relationships since he turned professional, you know, sometimes

566
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,519
they're they're lovey dovey and everything is perfect, and other

567
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,799
times they're at each other's you know, it's like, uh,

568
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,680
they're at each other's throats. It's like, you know, a

569
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:14,440
dysfunctional marriage perhaps, and this is that one of those

570
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,799
moments where it's dysfunctional Tifimo. You know, he says he

571
00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:18,880
wanted to fight three times a year. He makes a

572
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,279
lot of big boasts in this and that, and then

573
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,400
they keep offering the fights against this guy. They offered

574
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680
them against Josey Ramirez at the end of last year.

575
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,759
He said, I want to take the rest of the

576
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:28,559
year off. He offered they were offered to fight. Uh

577
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:31,319
Tfmo indicated he might be interested to fight at welterway

578
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,240
they were gonna they were ready willing able to match

579
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,160
him up with Brian Norman for the WBO Welterwey title

580
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:39,799
that would have taken place in the last fall. He

581
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240
turned that down, and then that's his prerogative too. And

582
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:44,279
so now they're going to beef about this that top

583
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,960
rank if you if they'll tell you if you want

584
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000
to take their word for it or not, that's your prerogative.

585
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,359
That the that the number that they offered to tia

586
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,000
Femo was well above his contractual minimum to fight Mattias.

587
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,359
So I'm not sure what he's upset about. But if

588
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,519
you follow so social media and you take a look

589
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:03,880
at the things that Timo has been posting, he's on

590
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,119
like this wild rant every five minutes. There's some you know,

591
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:10,119
he's dissing top rank about this or that, and.

592
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, clarify if you know, because I thought I saw

593
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,680
somewhere he allegedly only has one fight left on the deal.

594
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,680
Is there still more than that?

595
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: I will tell you there's more than that. I mean, okay,

596
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,079
so that's not even here nor there. The reality is

597
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,759
they're both in agreement. There's at least one fight left,

598
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:31,359
it seems to me. So I don't know. The main

599
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,119
upshot here is I'd like to see a ti Fimo

600
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,200
Lopez box. He's a talented young guy. It's a world champion.

601
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,759
He's in his prime in terms of making a legacy

602
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,039
and making money. He didn't, you know, in one of

603
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:44,200
his posts, he did indicate and I'm sure this is

604
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:46,759
part of his uh that's not related at the top rank,

605
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:49,720
but just his own emotional well being is he's going

606
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:51,279
through a divorce and it's still going to be final

607
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:53,319
in the next few weeks, is what he posted. This

608
00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:55,039
was not in any of his posts but this is

609
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,200
my reporting, and this may also have something to do

610
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440
with the craziness, is that he has been mad by

611
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,440
David mcwater for his entire career. But I am told

612
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,759
by multiple sources that that they have split, or that

613
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,680
t Femo has dropped him or dumped him, or is

614
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:10,559
just paying him off to be done with him, and

615
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:12,559
that Day's been showing up at his recent events just

616
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:14,759
to say face. But he's really got no say so

617
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,759
in the situation. And I've had a good relationship with

618
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,400
Dave for as long as I've known him and I

619
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,079
have met. I have called him on a multiple occasions.

620
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,240
I have texted him on a multiple occasions, and unlike normal,

621
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:28,119
he has never once gotten back to me. That is

622
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:31,240
completely an opposite kind of behavior that I'm used to.

623
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:34,079
So I'm not sure if it's because of that split

624
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,279
or whatever. But Dave has other fighters he manages too,

625
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:38,400
like Tiger Johnson, for example, who's going to be on

626
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,039
that upcoming February card. So the point here is this

627
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,000
between the divorce, the management situation, perhaps the coming to

628
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:51,519
an end of the contract, his own situation with you know,

629
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:53,160
what do you want to do? Fight? At one forty

630
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,200
fight at one forty seven. Whatever. His his aggravations are

631
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,359
about the money, even though Topprank says it's they're offering

632
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,119
him well above what his minimum is. Whether it'll be

633
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,079
on pay per view not on pay view. Obviously, he's

634
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:05,880
got a lot of stuff going on his mind, but

635
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,200
he doesn't make it easy because he comes off so

636
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,599
as so he's I like Tethmo when you just hang

637
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,000
out with him or interview Mr. I've snimmer sitting one

638
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640
time at a hotel in southern California with him and

639
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,079
his mom and dad, you know, early morning one time

640
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:20,880
before going to an airport and shooting the shit with

641
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,000
them for like an hour. They're they're, they're they're kind

642
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,680
of a crazy group, but they are nice people generally.

643
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:27,759
And uh, you know, I want t Themo to be

644
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:29,519
in the ring and be in a good spot. But

645
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:32,480
he's making it real difficult right now to to feel

646
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:35,559
bad or like him because he just he says and

647
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:37,720
types and crazy things.

648
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,359
Speaker 2: And and another part of this is at some at

649
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:43,319
some point you got to check yourself that, uh, the

650
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,680
sport doesn't revolve around him. Get back in the ring

651
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,680
and win another significant fight, so it'll all up. I mean,

652
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:50,279
it'll all benefit.

653
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: Ever since he looked great against Josh Taylor to win

654
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,079
the WBO and the lineal title, he's had two fights

655
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:58,839
and he's looked bad in both of them. Fault is that?

656
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Is that all of our fault or his management or

657
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,480
his soon to be ex wife, or I thought I.

658
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Thought he lost. The fight against Jermaine Ortiz that was

659
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,440
in February of last year, was a terrible fight, but

660
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,559
I thought he lost. Then he fought Steve Claggett, who

661
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:13,799
was a rank journeyman. He won by shutout, but it

662
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,799
wasn't a particularly great performance. And going into that fight,

663
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,079
they had a portfolio of opponents that they offered to him,

664
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,440
and Steve Claggett stood out as the weakest of those

665
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,640
opponents they offered him, and he took the weakest one

666
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,839
and still looked pretty poor even though he won handley.

667
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,519
They offered him raymore Ataya, Kenneth Simms, Junior, Elvis Rodriguez.

668
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,559
He picked Claggett, so you know, and that's on top

669
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:36,480
of all the guys that he turned down. Remember at

670
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,920
September top rank, he's the one that said I want

671
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,039
to fight three times this year. So they cleared the

672
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:44,279
date in September, he was ready to go for the

673
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,559
main event on one of their ESPN shows, and when

674
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:51,119
he turned down that opportunity, they ended up putting Mikhaela

675
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,640
Mayer and Sandy Ryan in the main event that night,

676
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,480
and those two women made the hell of a fight.

677
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: All right, So no Mattias against Lopez. We'll see what

678
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,039
happened for either one of those down the road and

679
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:06,640
what any new news is. Okay, the silly Loma Chenko,

680
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200
we still don't know if he's going to continue to fight.

681
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,880
We do know this. The IBF says that for his

682
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:17,359
lightweight bout, that for his belt, that they're going to

683
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,839
have an interim title fight or they want to tell

684
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,720
me about Raymond Morotaya who you mentioned just a second ago,

685
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:29,599
and tell me about Abdelev abdelijev I, Abdeliav. Tell me

686
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440
more about that opponent, and is this realistic to maybe

687
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,480
beat for the interim IBF title.

688
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: This is definitely realistic because of the fact that Loma

689
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,039
who hasn't looked he won the IBF title when he

690
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,480
knocked out George Cambo was this last year. He looked

691
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,880
really good in that fight. He gets the belt back,

692
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,240
and he hasn't fought since he has contemplated retirement. Now

693
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,880
apparently he decided he was going to fight, but when

694
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,480
he was started to do some training, he had some

695
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,079
kind of back injury. And and from what top Rank

696
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:57,440
has said to me, the back injury is going to

697
00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:59,880
keep even if he just he may still ultimately retire.

698
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,640
But even if he doesn't retire and he decides he

699
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,559
wants to come back, the back problem is going to

700
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,039
keep the sideline for an indefinite period of time. And

701
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,759
so even though the IBF has broken its rules in

702
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:11,759
recent times, they usually do stick by them. And the

703
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,160
one time that they do do an interim title, which

704
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,400
is the one that makes sense for any of the organizations,

705
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:18,240
is when the champion is going to be sidelined with

706
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,920
an injury right extended period of time.

707
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: I just can I stop you. I just love the

708
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,799
build up. You realize what you just said. Even though

709
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:26,319
the IBF breaks their rules all the time.

710
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: No all the time, not all the time, twice in

711
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,599
very significant port moments in the last year.

712
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:35,359
Speaker 2: Then you said in the next sentence, they do follow

713
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,960
them some of the time. It's just great, all right,

714
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,799
So they say that Murataia and this other opponent who's

715
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,359
from where? Where's the other opponent from?

716
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: So zaarabd Alive as a Russian fighter whose only lost

717
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,240
in his career. He's won nine fights in a row.

718
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,519
The one time he lost he got knocked out by

719
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:57,960
Devin Haney when they were fighting for the interim WBC title,

720
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,680
and that was back in like what two thousand and

721
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,599
I don't know, I mean, it's several years ago. I

722
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,039
forget the exact moment, you know, exact year when that was.

723
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,159
But it's been a while. Point is, it's been at least,

724
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,239
you know, three four or five years, and he's won

725
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,480
nine fights in a row since then. So Marat Taya

726
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:18,800
is highly ranked. He was behind Kishan Davis, but Kishan

727
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,960
Davis is going to drop out of the IVF rankings

728
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,480
because he's fighting for the WBO title. So in the

729
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,320
in the IBF ratings, these are the two highest available

730
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,960
contenders in their rankings. And ab Delive, by the way,

731
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,519
has a couple of good wins. He's beaten. You know,

732
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,239
he did beat the Renn and stuff for Aylen Arris,

733
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,559
not exactly at that time wasn't so spectacular, but he

734
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:41,440
did stop him in the twelfth round, and that's that's

735
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,079
not a bad win for the guy, you know, and

736
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,039
he's fought the requisite types of guys. He's beaten some

737
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,360
undefeated guys and he's worked his way up those ratings,

738
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,920
so I can't even quire with that. It's not like

739
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,360
it's a terrible matchup. We've seen what Morataya can do.

740
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,679
We won three fights in twenty twenty four. He had

741
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,360
to win against Devin Farmer. And in terms of abd Alive,

742
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,800
he's been also busy. He beat the former title er Gutierres.

743
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,280
He knocked off the undefeated Roman Andre. That was a

744
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,880
good win for him, you know, Like I said, Horoy Lenaris,

745
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,440
I mean it wasn't like a prime guy, but the

746
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,559
former lightweight title holder, the jeans leteachin In, he defeated him,

747
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,000
so like it's an okay matchup. Anyway. The point here

748
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:19,000
is this his promoters, RCC Promotions from Russia. They put

749
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,039
up an announcement on their social media saying that they

750
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:24,119
were now in negotiations for this interim title fight. Top

751
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:26,679
Rank confirmed that said, yes, we are discussing that. If

752
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:28,119
they don't have a deal, but I think the day

753
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:30,840
was February fourth, that I was called, then they'll order

754
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,760
a purse bid, but I feel like they'll probably make

755
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,840
a deal for this, and that means that the winner

756
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,320
will be the interim IBF champion, And if Lomachenko decides

757
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,159
the fight, he'll be obligated to fight the winner of

758
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:42,639
this fight in his first fight back, and if he

759
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:45,320
doesn't and he retires or he vacates, then the winner

760
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,920
of this fight will become the IBF title holder. So

761
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,320
that will be the way that the division starts to

762
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,480
shake out a little bit more.

763
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: All right, and we're excited to see what Murtaya can

764
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,119
do as a possible champ down the road. One more

765
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:03,679
news item than some nostalgia. That is Oscar Duarte and

766
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,639
apparently Regis Progray in talks here in a contenda fight.

767
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,519
Give me more on this, including maybe when well.

768
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: That is the case. Golden Boy Promotions and their president,

769
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,559
Oscar Eric Gomez rather and I discussed this fight. This

770
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,840
is something they are planning again, not done yet, but

771
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,480
they're hoping to wrap it up. If it is wrapped

772
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:26,239
up and done, the target is February fifteenth, be obviously

773
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,519
a dewed fight in Anaheim, California. Now, whether Anaheim, California

774
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,440
is going to be in position to host sporting events

775
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,239
even in the next month, that still remains to be

776
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,480
seen given what's happening with the fires. But when I

777
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,440
had this conversation about this is before the fire stuff started,

778
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,719
so obviously the location I guess could change, perhaps the date.

779
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,679
But anyway, regardless, Duarte and pro Grey are the combatants

780
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,480
that will if they make the deal, we'll do this fight. Now. Duarte,

781
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,760
he's only got you know, the one memorable loss was

782
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,400
obviously when he got knocked out. He's got two losses,

783
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,320
but the one that remembers is the one he got

784
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,039
stopped by Ryan Garcia. Now, since that fight happened, he's

785
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,639
looked pretty good. He's won, you know, his last couple

786
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,760
of fights. He had a really good fight against Battier Achmadov.

787
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,800
That was an action packed fight on that Latino Night

788
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,880
show that we've discussed from Saudi Arabia. Looked really good

789
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,679
in that fight, so that I thought that was an

790
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,920
outstanding fight in terms of Probray. Look, he's he's had

791
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,400
a rough go. I mean, he went from being like

792
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,920
a world champion in that weight class with the WBC title,

793
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,000
you know, in his second time with a belt in

794
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:35,039
the weight class, and now he's what one in three,

795
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:37,079
take it back, one and two in his last three,

796
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:38,559
and he's looked kind of bad in the two fights

797
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:41,440
he lost. He got absolutely shut out and spanked and

798
00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:44,920
dropped by Devin Haney and lost the WBC title. And

799
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,039
then he came back and once again he looked pretty

800
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:51,079
bad in the loss against Jack Catterall that took place

801
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,960
back in October, after which he said he was into retirement.

802
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:56,360
Obviously that's not the case because it's not been very

803
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,880
long and now he's discussing this fight with Golden Boys.

804
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,760
So you know, Duarte is a strong, powerful guy, and

805
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,199
I think has actually gotten better in his last few fights.

806
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,960
He's kind of finding himself. And as much as I

807
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:09,679
liked Regis and as good of a fighter as he

808
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:11,880
has been, I'm just being honest. I mean, he' seen

809
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,400
better days. He is not what he was.

810
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,039
Speaker 2: Now, and he's and it's not like he's twenty seven

811
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,159
or twenty eight years old. He's what thirty four to thirty.

812
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: Five At thirty five years old, he's.

813
00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: Thirty five years old, and he's personable. I mean, we

814
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,840
enjoyed him on the podcast when you had him on.

815
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,800
He's a straight shooter.

816
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,159
Speaker 1: Regis is a tremendous but there.

817
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: Are legitimate questions where Haini beat the crepola out of

818
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,679
him later in his career, and now he lost the

819
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,840
Catterall fight, and we were saying at that time, is

820
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,199
he gonna continue to knock around and maybe be the

821
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,920
B side on some of these fights.

822
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,519
Speaker 1: I don't know he's the best out on this because

823
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:46,679
he's going to go to a Golden Boy event. Golden

824
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:48,800
Boy's not his quoter. They promote the warte. They were

825
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,960
looking for a reputable opponent, which which is what he

826
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,840
is basically right now. And this is the onus would

827
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,280
be on Regis to change the narrative. He's now a

828
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,760
well known opponent, the top guys at one hundred and forty.

829
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: Yes, former world champion you know comes to the ring

830
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,920
and gets introduced as former world champions, two time world champion,

831
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,840
reagis prograde. But a lot of people are looking at

832
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,519
that going what's left, what's left in the tank?

833
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: And I will say it's not just losing is fine,

834
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,840
losing happens, I get it. I don't even have a problem.

835
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:21,599
It's when you lose but you don't really compete and

836
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,280
you just look bad and you can't really put your

837
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,800
stuff together, have a impression every second of every round.

838
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: You go back to that Zorilla fight in New Orleans

839
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,400
that he had like a year and a half ago.

840
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:35,119
He looked bad in the win. He did nothing in

841
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,840
the win. So there's legit concerns and maybe Regis is

842
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,199
going to answer that with his fists, with his with

843
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,400
his padded fists coming up. We'll see. I will further

844
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,639
say this, he's personable enough that he's maybe got a

845
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,239
second career doing some commentary, et cetera, as an analyst

846
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,320
or whatever. I just I don't know how long the

847
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,360
fight career rocks on. And we'll see if this Duarte

848
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,280
fights a reality and maybe you know what this is boxing,

849
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000
maybe he wins, maybe pro Ray wins it, and then

850
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:04,760
he's back in the picture as a continuer. Who else

851
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,960
that's right, And so February potentially on that fight. Okay,

852
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,039
one more thing to do, and that is some nostalgia

853
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,519
before you and I are done heading into this weekend.

854
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:17,760
It was twenty three years ago Sunday, the twelfth January,

855
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,159
the twelfth of two thousand and two, one of your faves,

856
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,760
Hoopo Fridis was in action trying to unify the junior

857
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,360
lightweight world titles WBO and WBA, and he did so.

858
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:36,719
And this was a Showtime, a Big Time main event card.

859
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:39,400
It does not say on my rundown, however, that you

860
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,519
were there ringside early on in your career covering fights,

861
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:44,440
even though Popo is one of your guys. But what

862
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,480
do we recollect about this fight twenty three years ago?

863
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was fighting Joel Casa Mayor, who's like a borderline.

864
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,960
They're both on the Hall of Fame ballot. I mean,

865
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,760
there's reasons that you could come up with the vote

866
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,960
for either guy. I consider them borderline. I did not

867
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,800
attend this fight. I was working at USA today at

868
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,199
that point. I don't remember why I wasn't there, but

869
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,559
I remember being really excited about this fight. This was

870
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:06,159
one of those kind of deals where Showtime had contracts

871
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,440
with both Popo as well as with castile Or. They

872
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,559
were both undefeated going into this fight. They were both

873
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:14,840
making defenses and they were looking to unify the titles. Again.

874
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,400
It had been built up for a while and you

875
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,599
got to Remember, let's put the division in perspective for

876
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:21,599
a quick sec In the early two thousands, the junior

877
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,199
lightweight division was absolutely tremendous. The top four guys were

878
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,960
all superb. You had the leader of the pack was

879
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,039
Floyd Mayweather. He had won the WBC title spectacularly in

880
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,679
a domination of Genera Hernandez and had been defending his

881
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,800
title regularly. You had the late Diego Corrals, a recent

882
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,800
elected to the Hall of Fame. He was the IBF champion.

883
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,559
He ended up giving up that belt because of the

884
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:47,079
IBF doing IBF things with their mandatory, so he fought

885
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:49,519
Floyd Mayweather. He lost that fight to Mayweather in a

886
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,840
spectacular performance from Floyd. I was present for that fight.

887
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,079
That was a brilliant night I stole. All these years later,

888
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,679
I considered that to be Floyd's greatest ring performance in

889
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,719
all his fifty fights. How great that performance was. But

890
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,199
the other guys that were holding down the way class

891
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,440
were the other two champions who also were undefeated, and

892
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,960
that was Popo Frtis and Joel Casamayor. Casamira had ben

893
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:12,239
an Olympic gold medalist. Popa Fradis was an absolutely devastating

894
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,840
devastating puncher who was you know, was knocking everybody out.

895
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,880
And that was what was so amazing about this particular

896
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,480
fight with Casa Mayor is that, you know, he did

897
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,440
score a knockdown, but it was not about the power

898
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,039
in this particular fight. This was all about Popo's boxing

899
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:31,599
ability against a master boxer and Joel Casimeyor, and you know,

900
00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:35,760
the puncher basically became the boxer and he won on

901
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,159
the science, not on the power. I mean, normally he

902
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:41,199
was just ruining guys with the devastating punching power. In

903
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,519
this particular fight, he had a box his way to

904
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:46,199
the decision and it was a really close fight, don't

905
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:48,719
make any mistake about it. It was one fourteen to

906
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,559
one twelve on all three scorecards. I thought, you know, again,

907
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:53,920
I am a huge Popo Fraidus fan, fair enough, but

908
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,400
I've done a good job I believe in separating my

909
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:59,400
fandom from the reality of the fight. You know, I'm

910
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,880
a huge Arturary fan, my all time favorite fighter. Never

911
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,280
for one minute that I really think he had a

912
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,920
chance to be Floyd Mayweather, you know what I mean.

913
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,960
I keep it real. And because of the fact that

914
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,239
it was a one to fourteen to one twelve scorecards.

915
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,159
One was Cassamayer had a point deducted in the sixth

916
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,400
round because he hit on the break, so that that

917
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,800
reduced that, you know, by one point. And then of

918
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,679
course the other was the knockdown. So if if without

919
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:26,280
the knockdown or the point deduction, it's a draw. But

920
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,559
Popo got the job done because he did get the knockdown.

921
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,159
And uh, again, it maybe wasn't the most exciting fight,

922
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:34,840
but it was sort of like a really good boxing

923
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,840
match between two high class, world class guys who were

924
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,400
at that point among the very elite in the way class.

925
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,239
They were certainly among the best fighters that were on showtime,

926
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,079
you know, when they were signing guys to their multi

927
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,159
fight contracts. I know a lot of people were pumped

928
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,440
up for this fight. It didn't necessarily do a huge,

929
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:52,159
huge crowd. They held it at the Cox Pavilion, which

930
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,119
is the small arena at the Thomas and Mack Center. Uh,

931
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,840
that's where I guess they have like the practice facility

932
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,920
of basketball for the UNLV basketball.

933
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,519
Speaker 2: Probably a couple of thousand seat venue at the most.

934
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:06,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I'll put it like that. The Cox Pavilion.

935
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A lot of times when they would have major fights

936
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at Thomas and Mack, that area would be where the

937
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:13,880
media room where the media center was right, so that

938
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that's give you an indication. It's not like a huge thing,

939
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but anyway, they held the fight there and uh it was.

940
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,119
It was a it was a really high class fight.

941
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:25,280
I love the fight, love Popo Cassimir uh it was

942
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,920
one of the top fighters. And both of them, by

943
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,400
the way, after this was over, they both went on

944
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,280
and won world titles in the lightweight division too. Fredis

945
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,679
moved up and Wait won a title. Casamra moved up

946
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,360
in Wait had a trilogy with with Diego Caralis, who

947
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also obviously had the the memorable victory comeback victory against

948
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Popa that we detailed about uh my interactions with him

949
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in his hotel suite after the fight in My Cat.

950
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But Fredis and and Carles, there was a handful of

951
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:55,760
fights that Showtime did back in those early two thousands

952
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,280
that they spend time building up that were big names

953
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,599
against each other in either unifications or significant role title

954
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:05,000
fights they took time to build up, like Jeff Lacy

955
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:08,280
against Joel kal Zaggi unified at Super mid Away. They

956
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,760
did that with this fight between Popo and Casimir to

957
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,920
unify the one hundred and thirty pound division. They did

958
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,679
the same thing when they got to the point where

959
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,639
they can finally get zab Judah and Costazu in the

960
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,280
ring together for the undisputed one hundred and forty pound title.

961
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,760
So they really took their time and they made a

962
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,280
series of fights and they got they ultimately did get

963
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,440
the payoff fight, and this was one of those fights,

964
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,480
and it was It was a brilliant performance from Popo

965
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,960
and again one of my all time favorite fighters. Popo

966
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Fright has finished his career forty one wins and two losses.

967
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,000
He obviously got stopped as we know by corrals. He

968
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,079
had the stoppage loss against Juan Diaez, you know, near

969
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:45,760
the end of his career. He actually retired after that

970
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,960
for several years and then came back in that you know,

971
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,239
two or three comebacks after that, but only three more fights.

972
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,159
But here's the thing that is no question that this

973
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,199
is his biggest win by far.

974
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: Twenty three years ago. We'll check it out. I might

975
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,800
need to dive into this because again we don't have

976
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,519
a big action weekend. I might have to dive into

977
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:05,119
this as well.

978
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: It's worth watching, I mean, with the expectations you're going

979
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,119
to see against Barrios. In terms of the action fights,

980
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,559
Popa Barrios is a breathtaking, electrifying slug test Cassa Major

981
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,960
and Frantis is a really good technical boxing match that

982
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,119
did have elements of excitement and a lot of anticipation,

983
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,559
but really really good performance and I love the fight.

984
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:29,119
Speaker 2: All right, love it. There's some nostalgia to wrap up

985
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:33,000
the show, so again on the bet Us Boxing Show

986
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,960
coming Friday at one Eastern time, we will handicap the

987
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:40,480
boxer main event with Callum Simpson the super middleweight defending

988
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:44,760
his British title, as well as Caroline Dubois and the

989
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,960
women's lightweight world title fight sister of Daniel Dubois. We'll

990
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,920
do that at one Eastern time and we'll come back

991
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,199
off the weekend, recap those fights, look at some other

992
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,760
news and some other stuff, and then hopefully we get

993
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,679
back into the groove with some action. I'm just I'm

994
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:04,039
going to say one more time here, this is missed

995
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,960
opportunity as far as I'm concerned for somebody. Golden Boy

996
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,159
PBC top rank to have no show the weekend of

997
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,159
the fourth, the eleventh, the eighteenth, the twenty fifth, to

998
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,920
not have everything. I mean, I pointed out to you

999
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:20,599
off the air earlier this week that Golden Boy had

1000
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:25,519
two January shows a year ago, had Virgil Ortiz early

1001
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:30,719
in January, and then had Haimimongia later in January. Don't.

1002
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,280
My only point is we got nothing right now, and

1003
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,559
we should have something if you're a fight fan here

1004
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:40,440
in January. For us to go on in the United

1005
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:46,320
States business is, let's hope. So all right with that,

1006
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:48,280
my friend, have a good weekend. I will talk to

1007
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,960
you on the bet Us Boxing show coming Friday, one

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Easter time.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rayphield sounds good. TJ.

1010
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Speaker 2: There you go. Uh. By the way, follow subscribe on

1011
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1012
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