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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys are your favor It's so light say subscribe

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<v Speaker 2>and raid it.

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<v Speaker 3>Live Stock and Greatest on Yesterday listening watching Limb always.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep its watching.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Bubo Fay.

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<v Speaker 2>Greetings, Bobo, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Man it? What's up? Clove? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>This and that biggest uh biggest bright spot in my future?

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<v Speaker 4>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Is I get to have dinner with Adam Fosky from

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<v Speaker 2>Finding Bigfoot tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>What is he working on a show up there? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, he got out of television altogether, just like several

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<v Speaker 2>of the other producers that we used to work with,

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<v Speaker 2>because TV is a dying industry. Apparently no money et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Like people behind the scenes, there's no money because everything's

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<v Speaker 2>getting cut, et cetera. But yeah, so he's doing working

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<v Speaker 2>for a nonprofit and they're doing some sort of event

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<v Speaker 2>up a timber line or something. So get to hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with Adam Fosky tonight and get some high fives in.

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<v Speaker 4>You forgot to have a Bruce palm in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got my ligaments are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be trashed from all the love.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a good field. He can get into horse

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<v Speaker 4>carriage building.

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<v Speaker 2>Horse carriage building. Are there a lot of homish folks

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<v Speaker 2>in your area?

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<v Speaker 4>I was just joking, there's like when the automobiles were

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<v Speaker 4>coming out, and like those horse carriage guys just double

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<v Speaker 4>down on horse carriages.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right right, Well, anyway, we have a Q and

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<v Speaker 2>A today and we have kind of a lot of questions,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think we're got to save our catching up

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<v Speaker 2>for the member section. I definitely have some stuff I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to you guys, who talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>about you guys, because I know Matt's back there somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a Q and A today. We have quite

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<v Speaker 2>a few voicemails and some written stuff. So why do

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<v Speaker 2>we hop into that and just get through it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, here's a familiar voice from the past that we

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<v Speaker 3>haven't heard in quite a while.

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<v Speaker 5>Good afternoon, guys, Little Dave from South Alabama again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a little Dave. Along with my love.

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<v Speaker 5>For bigfoot, I also have a huge love for bass fishing.

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<v Speaker 5>I have several touring pros that when the tournament season

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<v Speaker 5>is over, they do guide and instructional stuff on the water.

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<v Speaker 5>I seem to remember you Cliff doing that at one

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<v Speaker 5>time and Bobo, is that something y'all would consider doing

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<v Speaker 5>it again? I think it would be awesome for a

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<v Speaker 5>one oh one or either a small group of people

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<v Speaker 5>for a guided hiking trip in Sasquatch Country.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the show. Yeah, I mean I don't do

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<v Speaker 4>it too often, but because if people don't understand, like if.

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<v Speaker 2>I do it, I want to do it, like right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, well, yeah, I used to do that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing when I was saving money up to buy

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<v Speaker 2>or to basically make the museum. I didn't buy the museum.

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<v Speaker 2>I was making the museum at the time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>needed some extra cash, so I started running expeditions. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of experience, of course, ran a few

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<v Speaker 2>expeditions for the BFRO back when I was a BFRO

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<v Speaker 2>member for Matt, so I knew kind of what it

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<v Speaker 2>took and what it looks like. And I want to

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<v Speaker 2>do something a little extra special, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can charge a little bit more basically, So I supplied

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<v Speaker 2>the food. I supplied a lot of stuff, I got

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<v Speaker 2>the campsit. I did a lot of extra stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>I know what the BFRO o offers and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great value what they do.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you offer food? You offered the best camp cook

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, missus Sharon Bielart exactly, Joe Bilart's wife. Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but the best, so to speak, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was still pretty reasonable. I mean I had

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<v Speaker 2>special guests come out. Bobo was a special guest on

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of these things. Doctor Meldrum came out, Derek

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<v Speaker 2>Randalls came out as a special guest. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>I offered a really high quality product. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>did that for two or three years in a row

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<v Speaker 2>to try to save more money for the museum. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, people just don't realize

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<v Speaker 2>the extensive work that goes into planning and working on that.

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<v Speaker 2>For my area of mountain Hood National Forest. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're I charged people money to come out, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're making money on government land, well the government

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<v Speaker 2>wants their cut. So what you have to do is

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<v Speaker 2>you have to apply for a permit. And in my

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<v Speaker 2>neck of the woods, other every single national force is

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<v Speaker 2>different by the way. They all have their own rules,

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<v Speaker 2>their own timelines and calendars. Everything is different no matter

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<v Speaker 2>where you go. But in my National forest mountain Hood

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<v Speaker 2>National Force, which is one of the most visited national

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<v Speaker 2>forests in the entire country. You actually have to file

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<v Speaker 2>for that permit for like, say I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>this summer like right now, say I had one coming

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<v Speaker 2>up this weekend, I would have had to file for

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<v Speaker 2>that permit last October November, I think they're due November

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<v Speaker 2>first or middle of the month or something. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you have to do. You have to plan that

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<v Speaker 2>far ahead, tell them how many people you're going to have,

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<v Speaker 2>even though you may not know it, so you always

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<v Speaker 2>sell them the maximum. Then you have to tell them,

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<v Speaker 2>like for me, for our purposes, we're basically going out

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<v Speaker 2>and walking roads tonight, right, I had to tell them

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<v Speaker 2>what roads I was going to be on and how

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<v Speaker 2>far I was going to There's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>they need to know that there's no way of knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I and of course I talked to the permitting

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<v Speaker 2>people at a mountain National Forest and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we do. And if you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>if I say these roads and there's a sighting five

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<v Speaker 2>miles away a couple of days before, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to go there, right, And they basically said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I understand that you'd probably do that, but just

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, the permit, you wouldn't be permitted for that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so it's like a gray areas. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm doing. I'm doing my best to follow the rules,

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<v Speaker 2>but if I have to break the rules, and so

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<v Speaker 2>be it. You know, it's one of those things. And

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<v Speaker 2>they understood it. But and I don't think that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>since human beings run the thing, I think they would

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<v Speaker 2>probably understand and I would get some slack. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, if that had happened, I tech it

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<v Speaker 2>would be a gray area sort of thing. I got

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<v Speaker 2>the permit, but enough for the right location, and I

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<v Speaker 2>could I could feasibly get in trouble depending on the

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<v Speaker 2>inferiority complex of the particular person I was dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>in the government at the time. You know, essentially what

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<v Speaker 2>it comes down to, Yeah, because a lot most government

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<v Speaker 2>workers I find are just fantastic people and really really

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<v Speaker 2>helpful and they like their job and they're there to serve.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's some that aren't. Basically there's some that have

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<v Speaker 2>a power trip on it, you know, unlike anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's no different than any corporate structure or

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere else for that matter. But I don't do that

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<v Speaker 2>anymore because of the hassle and it just takes so

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<v Speaker 2>much planning, and I don't have the time anymore. I

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<v Speaker 2>used to do one of one of these expeditions a month.

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<v Speaker 2>We got some great stuff. I mean, there were daylight

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<v Speaker 2>sightings on some of my trips, footprint finds, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>sounds recorded. It was great. Everybody seemed to have a

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<v Speaker 2>really good time. But I just don't do those anymore

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<v Speaker 2>for several reasons. And the hassle and pre planning and

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<v Speaker 2>the bite that the government takes out of the profit

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<v Speaker 2>on the back side, those are all part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It just became a big hat and sho oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's another thing. Insurance companies you have to deal. You

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<v Speaker 2>have you legally have to buy insurance for all these

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<v Speaker 2>trips as well. I think it's a million dollar insurance

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<v Speaker 2>policy that you have to take out. And and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course I had NDA's and I had what are

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<v Speaker 2>those documents where like you hurt yourself, you're on your

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<v Speaker 2>own kind of stuff. Really sort of liability, yeah, their

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<v Speaker 2>liability releases, right, So I all those sort of things.

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<v Speaker 2>They all cost money. You know, you have to hire

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<v Speaker 2>lyrics to write these things and all that stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>it just the hassle going into it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you got to spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 4>talking to people and like screening people make sure they're

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<v Speaker 4>like you're on the same page like what they were expecting,

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<v Speaker 4>and you spend a lot of time on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>And then when I do it, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>take people out just like random, Like I go out

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<v Speaker 4>for like the week ahead of time and scout like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you're burning a bunch of fuel and you're time,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know, you go out there in scott because

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<v Speaker 4>best hopeful spot to get some some kind of response.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like it's expensive. Then you know, hire someone

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<v Speaker 4>to come out and I'm not a cook, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>hire like a real cook to come out, like cause

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I want to make it like a top

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<v Speaker 4>flight experience. So it's they think like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll bring a twelve pack or something. You know, It's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's it's a it's an expensive endeavor and you

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<v Speaker 4>know to do a top flight one. But I guess

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<v Speaker 4>there's kind of maybe talking more about like just like

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<v Speaker 4>a day hike situation. But where I'm out, it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of there's not a lot of people, like there's not

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<v Speaker 4>a huge demand for that. Like you're I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 4>outside of Portland, so you got three million people whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>like within how closer drive do you? Yeah, I need it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going out for the day, you still have

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<v Speaker 2>to get that permit. If you're accepting money, And I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean rich people write the rules. Rich

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<v Speaker 2>people write them so they can break them. I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But sometimes people say, well, I just I'll

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<v Speaker 2>dis label it as you know, a donation to the

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<v Speaker 2>museum or something like that, or a gift to a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, well, yeah, but this still is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a gray area and stuff. And as much as I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to do that sort of stuff, sometimes just the

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<v Speaker 2>hassle and I don't know what kind of people these

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<v Speaker 2>are and all that kind of stuff, I don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not really it doesn't seem to me to

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<v Speaker 2>little time as it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I am the I am just actually gonna sign a

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<v Speaker 4>little deal with there's a local outdoor store up here.

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<v Speaker 4>My buddy Aaron owns it, and I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 4>doing like a couple of year guided trips up in

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<v Speaker 4>the Bluff Creek or down here on Redwoods, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to handle all the paperwork, all the logistics. His

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<v Speaker 4>companies called Bigfoot adventures. They do like diving, like guided

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<v Speaker 4>diving trips, fishing trips, surfing trips, hikes in the Redwoods,

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<v Speaker 4>night night stuff like they they have for like a

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<v Speaker 4>broad broad ray stuff. And he said, on the big

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<v Speaker 4>foot stuff, he always gets asked how do they how

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<v Speaker 2>But see that's the way to do it because one

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<v Speaker 2>of the ways around the permitting process that I had

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<v Speaker 2>to go through. See, they don't have anything for bigfoot obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>that National Forest Service doesn't give permits for that. They

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<v Speaker 2>give permits for like one or one or three day events,

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<v Speaker 2>you like a rafting race or a bicycle race or

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<v Speaker 2>hike or that kind of stuff. You know, they give

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a workaround. But another avenue you could go

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<v Speaker 2>some sort, like a hunting guide, because that's basically the

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<v Speaker 2>same sort of thing. A hunting guide permit would work

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<v Speaker 2>great for that, and it sounds like that's what those

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<v Speaker 2>If I was that kind of person, that's definitely what

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<v Speaker 2>I would do. I would go get a hunting guide

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<v Speaker 7>Hey guys, this is JD from North Georgia, which makes

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<v Speaker 7>Matt my favorite. So I've heard stories over the years

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<v Speaker 7>of fishermen running into Bigfoot, although I have not specifically

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<v Speaker 7>heard if they are different fish in the areas of

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<v Speaker 7>the country that Bigfoot prefer. I assume salmon and Pacific Northwest,

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<v Speaker 7>probably trout here in the southeast.

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<v Speaker 1>Love to hear your thoughts, Matt. I'd love to shake

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<v Speaker 1>your hand one day. You're a good man, JD. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever it's worth. Matt is also my favorite. He

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<v Speaker 1>does the line's share of the work here, so same here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you two are my favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as fish species go. I don't think sasquatches

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<v Speaker 2>care at all. No, they're out there eating bugs. They're

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<v Speaker 2>out there eating like roadkill, raccoons and stuff. They're not

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it definitely go for catfish in a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>part of the country. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's whatever they can catch and what's available.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, something like big. I mean, they obviously want to

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<v Speaker 4>get something big. The bigger the better. I've heard of

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<v Speaker 4>them grabbing carp out of ponds too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The one that was on the in Saley, Arizona, on

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<v Speaker 2>the Danae University campus that we looked into for finding Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 2>that one came out of one of the canyons and

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<v Speaker 2>waded into the lake and it came out of the

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<v Speaker 2>lake and there were where it came out according to

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<v Speaker 2>the footprint tracks, there was a chewed up carp you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that had partially eaten carp that had been thrown on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. But I think it's whatever's easy to catch.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in the Pacific Northwest, you know there's salmon and

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<v Speaker 2>flopping on the side of the lot of rivers at

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<v Speaker 2>certain times a year as they're spawned out. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that those would be easily scooped up and taken away

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<v Speaker 2>if noodle and for catfish is something that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit surprised if they figured that thing out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because they're so fast, you know, they can

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<v Speaker 2>catch you know, rattlesnakes at their bare hands, they can

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<v Speaker 2>probably catch fish. And certainly I've as a kid, I

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<v Speaker 2>would scoot around in these old trout rivers and trout

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<v Speaker 2>creeks and stuff and try to, you know, scoop fish

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<v Speaker 2>out of the river and that sort of thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when the North Georgia, since JD's from there as well,

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<v Speaker 3>send me an email through the podcast, JD, let me

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<v Speaker 3>know what part of North Georgia are you're from. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that many reports. I can't think of any

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<v Speaker 3>that come to mind, but yeah, I would assume trout

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<v Speaker 3>would be the predominant one, and there's plenty of hatcheries around.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>They do stalk a lot of those creeks and streams,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. But yeah, as far as like private ponds,

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<v Speaker 3>you definitely get reports of them taking catfish or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>People stalk in those ponds. Most of the reports that

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<v Speaker 3>I know of from North Georgia involve other animals like deer,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, other living creatures being taken, So it's not

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<v Speaker 3>quite as prevalent as it is in the Northwest, where

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<v Speaker 3>you have a lot of reports in them taking salmon.

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<v Speaker 3>Do people report them taking like sturgeon or anything like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they'd catch a sturgeon. Those things

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, much shot at sturgeon. Yeah, most of

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<v Speaker 2>the reports I know of. They kind of hang out

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<v Speaker 2>in that places where the fishermen clean their fish to

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<v Speaker 3>That makes it. I've never fished for a sturgeon. I've

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<v Speaker 3>just seen pictures of them. It seems like be a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of food. Yeah, be a tremendous amount of food.

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<v Speaker 2>And but again, they're kind of you know, their their

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of bottom They feed along the bottom basically

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<v Speaker 2>is the gist of it. And you know they're not

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty deeped a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's going to be whatever's in creeks and

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<v Speaker 3>streams rather than like deep wide rivers, although I.

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<v Speaker 4>where the river did to like horseshoe bends and a

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<v Speaker 4>rown really slowed down there with some like pools and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>The natives saw the trial members there saw a large

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<v Speaker 4>group like a dozen. It's like that nursery. That nursery

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<v Speaker 4>rounds area whatever the for the juveniles, like they'd have

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<v Speaker 4>like a bunch of I guess the adults would, according

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<v Speaker 4>to the locals, or they drop them off in this

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<v Speaker 4>one area and then the bigger adolescents would watch out

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<v Speaker 4>for the smaller ones. I guess what they said was

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<v Speaker 4>their backs, like at certain times the ear and they

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<v Speaker 4>traveled further for food, that they'd leave them all in

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<v Speaker 4>this one area and then come then the adults should

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<v Speaker 4>come back. And they said that they saw that the

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<v Speaker 4>sasquatches were like great swimmers. They would go out and

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<v Speaker 4>they'd pin up in one of the tight turns of

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<v Speaker 4>the horseshop and they'd pin up like a school of salmon,

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<v Speaker 4>and then swim around and they they'd catch them and

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<v Speaker 4>when they got out, they'd run up on the bank

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<v Speaker 4>and like totally, like not sure that they'd run over it,

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<v Speaker 4>like they were holding up football, like not wanting to fumble,

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<v Speaker 4>and like run by the other ones and eat it

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<v Speaker 4>by themselves real fast. And when they got down to

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<v Speaker 4>like three or four left, there wasn't enough of them

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<v Speaker 4>to catch any where. Those last three or four would

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<v Speaker 4>just get out of the river knowing that they couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>catch any anymore. So I thought that was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've only heard that from that area. Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't think fish is a huge portion of

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<v Speaker 2>their diet, just because they are so hard to get,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I think obviously they're lying around the bank

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<v Speaker 2>and something, they're definitely gonna eat them. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's a huge portion of their diet.

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<v Speaker 4>Nay. Also rating, well, it's salmon again, rating the fish

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<v Speaker 4>pins for the patcheries before they release, when they get

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<v Speaker 4>up the big the tank for the biggest fish before release.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been seen pilfering those things like up and down

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<v Speaker 4>the West coast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and of course we've all heard the stories

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<v Speaker 2>of them rating the like the nets that native folks

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<v Speaker 2>use to catch salmon, like the gillnets or whatever they're called.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as species, I don't think they care.

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<v Speaker 2>Meat is meat, especially when you're eating you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>dead possums from the side of the road. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they care so much.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but it is a great question. So thanks for that,

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<v Speaker 3>j D. And yeah, soon an email. Let me know

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<v Speaker 3>what part of Norhichwards you are from. So here's another

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<v Speaker 3>voice from the past, the og finding Bigfoot fan Michael, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>cliff Man, Bobo. How are my friends doing today? I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get right to it.

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<v Speaker 9>This past spring, me and my girlfriend went hiking in

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<v Speaker 9>the New Jersey Pine barrens, kind of right across the

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<v Speaker 9>street where I possibly might have found a few haven

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<v Speaker 9>hour track a couple.

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<v Speaker 4>Of years ago.

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<v Speaker 9>And while we were walking, I looked off to my

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<v Speaker 9>side and saw like a flash of brown and like

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<v Speaker 9>the little white thing and something heavy getting up. And

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<v Speaker 9>I'm initially thinking, okay, I might have just you know,

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<v Speaker 9>spooked a buck, a white tailed deer, and that was it,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, that was the white of it's tail going off.

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<v Speaker 9>But then after thinking about it, I'm like, huh, the

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<v Speaker 9>thing again did sound really heavy, So I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you guys aware if white tail deer.

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<v Speaker 9>Bucks sound heavy when they get up in any sort

422
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<v Speaker 9>of way, or did I possibly maybe disturb a bigfoot

423
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<v Speaker 9>that was resting there as it got up, And initially

424
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<v Speaker 9>I'm not going to that, but initially going with it

425
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<v Speaker 9>was a deer, but you know, never know because just

426
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<v Speaker 9>the bottom apartment also might have been his feet that

427
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<v Speaker 9>I saw. But hey, I hope you guys are all

428
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<v Speaker 9>having a good day. Love you guys, Cliff and Matt.

429
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<v Speaker 9>I'll see you guys in November. And Kentucky see it.

430
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<v Speaker 3>And yes, that was Michael Madden. He didn't say his

431
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<v Speaker 3>name in the voicemail, but I could see from the

432
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<v Speaker 3>submission that it was him, So thank you, Michael. And yes,

433
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<v Speaker 3>deer make a lot of noise when they're trying to

434
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<v Speaker 3>get away from you. You know, they can be very

435
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<v Speaker 3>quiet when they're trying to, you know, sneak around or

436
00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.079
<v Speaker 3>be undetected. But I just jumped to deer in my

437
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<v Speaker 3>neighborhood the other day. That was like right at the

438
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<v Speaker 3>edge of the tree line, at the edge of where

439
00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.160
<v Speaker 3>I walked circles around the neighborhood and spooked it and

440
00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.799
<v Speaker 3>it crashed off and it was so loud it was

441
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<v Speaker 3>pretty hilarious, Like it was just frantically trying to get

442
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<v Speaker 3>away because I rounded a bind and I guess it

443
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<v Speaker 3>didn't see me until I was super close to it,

444
00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.440
<v Speaker 3>and it was very very loud, and I thought even

445
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<v Speaker 3>in that moment, like, oh man, if I had heard

446
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<v Speaker 3>that in the middle of nowhere, I might not have

447
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<v Speaker 3>immediately assumed it was a deer because it was so

448
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<v Speaker 3>loud and that wasn't even a buck, it was just

449
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<v Speaker 3>a dough.

450
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it depends on the time of the season. I mean,

451
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<v Speaker 4>it's this time of the year, like end of summer,

452
00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:46.599
<v Speaker 4>early fall, you know, or midsummer, when things are dry

453
00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.640
<v Speaker 4>and there's dry leaf litter everywhere, I mean, and broken

454
00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:52.480
<v Speaker 4>like dried out twigs and branches that are just ready

455
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<v Speaker 4>to snap, like you know, like that dry snap something.

456
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<v Speaker 4>It can sound really loud.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Everything's claud this time of year because of that same thing. Yeah,

458
00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:03.079
<v Speaker 2>most likely it was a deer because there's a whole

459
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<v Speaker 2>lot more of those and sasquatches, that's for sure. But

460
00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Pian Barns is a wonderful place to go bigfooting. It

461
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<v Speaker 2>was one of my favorite places that I went on

462
00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:13.759
<v Speaker 2>the show. At least it was great that was cool.

463
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:16.200
<v Speaker 4>I was. I was shocked how rad that place was.

464
00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.119
<v Speaker 2>It far exceeded my expectations, I'll tell you that.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and given that he saw it, you know, it

466
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<v Speaker 3>seemed like from the visual identification, it looked like a deer,

467
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<v Speaker 3>So I would assume that was probably a deer, which

468
00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:28.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, Michael said, he assumed initially. But yes, they

469
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<v Speaker 3>can be very very loud and sound very heavy, so

470
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<v Speaker 3>that's the most likely culprit.

471
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<v Speaker 4>But you should be encouraged that you had a possibility,

472
00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:40.240
<v Speaker 4>even if it probably wasn't, should motivate you more to

473
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<v Speaker 4>get out there.

474
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<v Speaker 3>There you go, indeed, and we will see you at

475
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<v Speaker 3>cryptocod in Lexington, Kentucky the weekend before Thanksgiving. I don't

476
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<v Speaker 3>have those dates in front of me, but i'll put

477
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<v Speaker 3>a link in the show notes.

478
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<v Speaker 2>I'm booked. I'll be there, all right.

479
00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.039
<v Speaker 3>So this is from one of our pigeons, but he

480
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<v Speaker 3>sent it to the main voicemail, so I assume it

481
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<v Speaker 3>is for the main show. Hey, gentlemen, this is Jay Charlotte.

482
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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for taking my question.

483
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<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering what sasquatch research item or items calls you

484
00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:10.359
<v Speaker 3>the most buyer's remorse.

485
00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Thank you the catchum study.

486
00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:20.640
<v Speaker 2>You paid for it in my reputation, I guess you

487
00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:21.440
<v Speaker 2>did pay for it.

488
00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I did rewatch the Conan O'Brien clip recently, because when

489
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I was visiting my dad, I was I showed him

490
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<v Speaker 3>that because you know, there's not a whole lot of

491
00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:34.839
<v Speaker 3>there just finding bigfoot clips. But then you know, there's

492
00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:36.720
<v Speaker 3>not a whole lot of like big interview clips, but

493
00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:39.359
<v Speaker 3>that one was on there, and I had forgotten that

494
00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.680
<v Speaker 3>you would. You had mentioned that study, which was promising

495
00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:43.480
<v Speaker 3>at the time, so who could blame it?

496
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<v Speaker 10>Cliff warned me like the day before when I was all,

497
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<v Speaker 10>don't don't, I wouldn't quote that, it's not and then

498
00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:52.079
<v Speaker 10>men was like I talked to was like, oh don't don't.

499
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<v Speaker 10>Uh yeah, I wouldn't be quoting that, you know, like,

500
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:56.240
<v Speaker 10>don't be saying that's the for sure thing.

501
00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:58.319
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, this is definitely it. You know.

502
00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:02.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, it goes back to that thing I say often

503
00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:04.759
<v Speaker 2>is that if you're talking about Bigfoot for a living,

504
00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you're probably going to be wrong kind of a lot.

505
00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:07.680
<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

506
00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:10.759
<v Speaker 3>I think in terms of Jay's question, it's a great

507
00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:13.960
<v Speaker 3>question because people are always asking for gear recommendations, but

508
00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 3>not enough people I think ask about, like, what did

509
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:18.839
<v Speaker 3>you buy that you regret the most. That's just like

510
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.519
<v Speaker 3>throwing money away. And to me, they all fall in

511
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.160
<v Speaker 3>the category of optics, and it's you know, I would

512
00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.640
<v Speaker 3>say it's a toss up between any sort of low

513
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:33.720
<v Speaker 3>resolution or low refresh rate thermal Those are basically worthless.

514
00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.279
<v Speaker 3>They're better than nothing, but you will really regret it

515
00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:38.720
<v Speaker 3>if you spend the money on that. Any sort of

516
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:43.480
<v Speaker 3>night vision unit is basically not great for our purposes

517
00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.640
<v Speaker 3>and for me personally. I know the technology has changed

518
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot, but one of the things I bought when

519
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I did that full time project was a GoPro, just

520
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.599
<v Speaker 3>thinking I would use the head strap or a chest strap.

521
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.119
<v Speaker 3>But at that time, this would have been like twenty twelve.

522
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.799
<v Speaker 3>You know, they had these little proprietary batteries with like

523
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.680
<v Speaker 3>a proprietary connector you couldn't just swap out like double

524
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:05.359
<v Speaker 3>as or triple as or whatever, and they only held

525
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 3>a charge for so long because you know, those were

526
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.799
<v Speaker 3>like action cameras. They were used for like whitewater rapids

527
00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 3>or you know, doing tricks or stunts like BMX, biking, skateboarding,

528
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:19.359
<v Speaker 3>et They weren't meant to like document a six hour hike,

529
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:22.160
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. And so I just found like, oh,

530
00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 3>this isn't useful because you don't know when something's going

531
00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.160
<v Speaker 3>to happen, so you need a camera that's on all

532
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 3>the time. And to facilitate that, you either need a

533
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.160
<v Speaker 3>long lasting battery or something that you can just constantly

534
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.240
<v Speaker 3>swap out batteries easily. And so I had to buy

535
00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of these proprietary batteries and only lasted for

536
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.519
<v Speaker 3>a little while, and I was like, man, I really regret.

537
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Buying this thing and all that stuff.

538
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:45.759
<v Speaker 3>So I would say cheap thermals, any sort of night

539
00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:49.960
<v Speaker 3>vision scope, and a GoPro those are my biggest buyers.

540
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:53.599
<v Speaker 4>Remorse, I agree, you know that that. Yeah, I was

541
00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:57.000
<v Speaker 4>thinking it's like more expensive things, but yeah, cheap optics

542
00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 4>and like people all the time and go like I

543
00:24:58.359 --> 00:24:59.920
<v Speaker 4>got this new unit, you know, I got this night

544
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:01.759
<v Speaker 4>vision and it's like you look at it, it's like

545
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.079
<v Speaker 4>seventy nine dollars or one hundred and twenty nine dollars.

546
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 4>It's like, dude, you just threw away your money. And

547
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Speaker 4>then I'd say my other biggest regret was I bought

548
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.400
<v Speaker 4>six of those TKSE scouts. Those Fleer TCSE scouts are

549
00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.920
<v Speaker 4>like five hundred bucks. I got to like on half

550
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:17.519
<v Speaker 4>a dozen of them for like four forty five or

551
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:20.079
<v Speaker 4>four thirty five or something like that. So I bought

552
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 4>six of them. And those things just are such garbage.

553
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:27.599
<v Speaker 2>See now, I bought six of those for the expeditions

554
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:29.319
<v Speaker 2>that I was running to kind of circle back to

555
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:32.480
<v Speaker 2>a previous conversation here, and the customers seem to like them,

556
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 2>but they aren't something unless the sasquatch is standing in

557
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:36.519
<v Speaker 2>your camp on the other side of the fire, You're

558
00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:38.480
<v Speaker 2>not going to get good footage with it. It's more

559
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>of a like a spotter scope. If anything, there's something

560
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 2>in there, take a look.

561
00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 4>We use them. We deployed them as you detect a

562
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 4>heat source and then we'll look at what the with

563
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:49.839
<v Speaker 4>the good therm.

564
00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's kind of what you have to do with it.

565
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 2>So I do agree that. I mean I still have them.

566
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Of course, I probably probably just sell them at some point,

567
00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:00.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, but I still have those do kind of

568
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:02.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't really regret buying them, because that was one

569
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 2>of the selling points of the expeditions, is that every

570
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:08.160
<v Speaker 2>other person because I limited my my load to ten

571
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:10.599
<v Speaker 2>or twelve people. Every other person had had a flair

572
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 2>in their hands. I mean it wasn't a great fleair,

573
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:14.839
<v Speaker 2>but it was flear nonetheless. But you know, to go

574
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.480
<v Speaker 2>in the opposite side of that, I bought a when

575
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:21.799
<v Speaker 2>we came back from the Paul on finding Bigfoot. The

576
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.079
<v Speaker 2>moisture and Nepaul destroyed one of my recording devices and

577
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 2>we were in Chicago, and that was very sick in Chicago.

578
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:32.519
<v Speaker 2>I I got food poisoning from the plane and Bobo

579
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:35.640
<v Speaker 2>saved my life. And that in Chicago. Actually hero, I

580
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:38.039
<v Speaker 2>haven't heard that story. Oh yeah, well I think he's

581
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 2>pretty much saved my life. And my perspective was like,

582
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're going to have three days down to

583
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of get used to the time zone. After we

584
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>flew back from Nepaul, and the first woke up the

585
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>first morning, it's like, well, we gotta do laundry, you know.

586
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>So I was going to go do laundry with everybody

587
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 2>and meet everybody at noon. Well I got down there

588
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 2>and we're all meeting and so there's no room for

589
00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:58.839
<v Speaker 2>me in the car, and Bobo, being the good guy,

590
00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:00.519
<v Speaker 2>is is I'll take your lung. I'll throw it in

591
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>before you don't worry about it. So I gave him my

592
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:04.119
<v Speaker 2>laundry and I went back up to the room, and

593
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>like two hours later, the food poisoning hit me and

594
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 2>and it it worked me. I don't think I've ever

595
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 2>been so sick from food poisoning. Like for the next

596
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:17.039
<v Speaker 2>four hours, probably I would just randomly wake up somewhere,

597
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>eat between my bed and the toilet, and like I

598
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>would just I pass out, like i'd crawl. I find

599
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.599
<v Speaker 2>myself passed out on the floor. I just wake up

600
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the floor somewhere in my room.

601
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's like I was such a mess. In about

602
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 2>six or six thirty, there's a knock on my door

603
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and I go and it's Bobo. He goes, hey, Cliff,

604
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I got your law, dude, you look like crap, and

605
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>what do you need And I said, I don't know, Bobo,

606
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I feel terror And he went to the store and

607
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>bought me food and gatorade and everything, like cause I

608
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 2>was a mess, dude, Like if I would have been

609
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>left alone for their day, like I could have died

610
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>from dehydration or god knows what I was.

611
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 4>His skin color was white, and green like literally had

612
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:56.960
<v Speaker 4>green tins to his whole face.

613
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:58.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was in a bad I was in a

614
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:00.839
<v Speaker 2>bad spot, man, So you saved my life as far

615
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>as I'm concerned. But anyway, when we're there, like on

616
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 2>the third day, I was so bummed because Chicago seems

617
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 2>like an awesome town to go poke around in and

618
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I've never been there before. And I spent you know,

619
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>basically two and a half days in bed because we

620
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>had to film one day four. So anyway, that last day,

621
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:16.759
<v Speaker 2>I was well enough to get out of bed and

622
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go see the city a little bit.

623
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 2>And it's not like I was going out drinking and

624
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 2>going to restaurants, just kind of slow walking. But I

625
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 2>wandered over to a music store and I bought myself

626
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 2>a pretty nice recording device. It's like four hundred and

627
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>fifty bucks or something like that, and I kind of

628
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>regret that there's no need for that, because the recorders

629
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<v Speaker 2>I finally settled in on at this point in my

630
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>life costs about one hundred bucks one hundred and ten bucks.

631
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 2>And I love those because you can leave them out

632
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in the rain, and well, if you leave them, they're

633
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>not waterproof, but if you leave them out in the rain,

634
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you're only down one hundred bucks. And by the way,

635
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I have like four or five of these things now

636
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:52.359
<v Speaker 2>because I keep thinking I ruined them and I didn't.

637
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:53.480
<v Speaker 4>We are they olympus?

638
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I got a little task scam the dr

639
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 2>fives or I don't know what. I've had to look

640
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>at the number for you. But they're great. Little units

641
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>are small. So I bought a really nice unit with

642
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 2>a multiple track recording. It's like, that's completely unnecessary. I

643
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.279
<v Speaker 2>still have it. It's still a great unit, it's still wonderful,

644
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 2>but I don't use it in the field. So that's

645
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>something I have buyer's remorse.

646
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Amount you just prompted an idea. I mean, one thing

647
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.400
<v Speaker 3>I have buyer's remorse about I'm looking at it right

648
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 3>now is a few years ago I bought a brand

649
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 3>new Osprey at most AG fifty men's backpack and backpack

650
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 3>for doing some of those back country trips, and then

651
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 3>I've just stayed using the same pack I've been using

652
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 3>since like six So if any listeners or pigeons out

653
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 3>there want to buy a like new Osprey at most

654
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 3>AG fifty, let me know, because I definitely regret buying that,

655
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 3>and it's sitting here on my shelf. It has never

656
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 3>been used. It's never left this basement's never been out

657
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>in the field. So I regret it. But it can

658
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 3>be yours.

659
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:55.359
<v Speaker 2>We could do, we can do a big thing to

660
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>be on garage sales episodes.

661
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we still haven't had any offers from the pigeon

662
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 3>on Bobo's truck, So Bobo, maybe you want to tell

663
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 3>the main listeners about.

664
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>It at this point.

665
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:11.559
<v Speaker 4>Twenty seventeen. Laramie Dodge Ram. It's got the comfort package, moonroof,

666
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.279
<v Speaker 4>sliding roar window. It's got a four thousand dollars camper

667
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.359
<v Speaker 4>show on the locking gun. It's a tall boy like

668
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 4>the high rise camper show. It's got a locking gun

669
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.200
<v Speaker 4>box in it. It's got brand new custom or not

670
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 4>Customer's got brand new off road Michelin tires. It's one

671
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirty thousand miles.

672
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:31.319
<v Speaker 3>What happens if they're a California resident?

673
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 2>What do they get? Oh?

674
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's got a big footer plate. It says bigfooter

675
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 4>on the plate, so you have the plate too.

676
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.519
<v Speaker 3>Send them in, folks, sending your offers. Relieve us of

677
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 3>our buyer's remorse.

678
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.240
<v Speaker 6>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

679
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.200
<v Speaker 6>We'll be right back after these messages.

680
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 3>So thank you Jay. And here is the next voicemail.

681
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Hello and Cliff, Bobo and Matt.

682
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.440
<v Speaker 11>It's Pull here from Queensland, Australia, Gold Coast and I

683
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 11>just had a question regarding multiple sightings. They seem to

684
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 11>be some people who are lucky enough to have all

685
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 11>sorts of sightings, and I was wondering if you had

686
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 11>a theory about that.

687
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 4>Why it is that they.

688
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 11>Seem to be attracted to Bigfoot perhaps or are they

689
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 11>just lucky?

690
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 7>You know.

691
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.480
<v Speaker 11>I was just wondering if you had a theory of

692
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.119
<v Speaker 11>how that seems to happen, because you know, there are

693
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 11>other people who've been looking for years, decades and have

694
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.400
<v Speaker 11>never seen a thing. Some people just seem to be

695
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 11>I don't know, is it lucky? So yeah, thank you

696
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 11>very much. Also, i'd love to know if you might

697
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 11>ever be thinking about coming back to Queensland. Thanks very much.

698
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Guys. Keep a squatching. Oh man, I'd love to go back.

699
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 4>That's the place. That place is special. Yeah, the Gold

700
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 4>Coast is awesome, I mean Blue Mountains I like the

701
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 4>Gold Coast, but in the Blue Mountains places epic and

702
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a matter well they say luck is

703
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 4>preparation meets opportunity whatever, but I mean I think it's luck.

704
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean being prepared, like you know, being alert that hells.

705
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 4>But for me, it's all been pretty much. I mean,

706
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.079
<v Speaker 4>put yourself in the right area, but it's been luck. Yeah.

707
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a matter of the person being

708
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 2>attracted to the sasquatches or the sasquatches being attracted to

709
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the person at all. I think it's almost completely dumb luck.

710
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>But you got to put yourself in the right place

711
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 2>to have that luck happen. Obviously, if you go to

712
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.559
<v Speaker 2>places where sasquatches are not, you can be the luckiest

713
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 2>person in the world. You're not going to see one.

714
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's a matter of for me at least,

715
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.759
<v Speaker 2>and I haven't seen you know, I haven't seen like

716
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 2>five or eight bigfoots or anything like that. Don't get

717
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.839
<v Speaker 2>me wrong, but it seems to me that the best

718
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 2>strategy is go often to a place where you think

719
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.440
<v Speaker 2>they are, and that's really about it. But as far

720
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>as people seeing multiple sasquatches, back in the day. I mean,

721
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I think John Green even said, or if he didn't say,

722
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 2>the insinuated that if anybody who claims multiple sightings is

723
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>probably lying. They said, well, that's not true at all.

724
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, although he did say that it's certainlyossible to

725
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:01.839
<v Speaker 2>see them more often, but you kind of have to

726
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 2>wonder about it, I think, is the way he worded it.

727
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>More or less, you kind of have to wonder about

728
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 2>these people unless there's just a good area. If you're

729
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 2>in a really good area and they're cruising around, maybe

730
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Speaker 2>you have a chance to see him. I don't know.

731
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm still working on it, so I

732
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 2>have to get back to you on that one. And gosh,

733
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>I would love to go back to Australia for whatever

734
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>it's worth. In fact, Chad Hamill, former showrunner for Finding Big,

735
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 2>but he just moved to Australia, so I've got friends

736
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>down there now. So yeah, there's good stuff happening. I'd

737
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>love to get back down there, but we'll see.

738
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 4>I could go back and defend my title. Is cool

739
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:33.920
<v Speaker 4>and got a chicken fight champion.

740
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. You're not You're not the young

741
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Bucky used to be Bobs I think.

742
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 4>I could still. I could take those Aussi's out. I

743
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 4>got Brenda on my back. We could do it.

744
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Sell tickets to that one.

745
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

746
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 3>The researchers that come to mind that I trust that

747
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 3>describe multiple sidings. One of them had about half a

748
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 3>dozen sidings, and that was at a place that he

749
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 3>was at nearly full time for five years. The other

750
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 3>ones would have been closer to like, maybe into a

751
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 3>dozen sidings, and that was a place they were at

752
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 3>for many hundreds of days and nights over a decade,

753
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 3>a little over a decade actually, so over.

754
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 4>Ten years, you know.

755
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 3>So there there certainly are people who can have multiple

756
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 3>sightings intentionally given enough time in the right place and

757
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>by time, you know, you measure that time in years,

758
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 3>in the in days and nights numbering in the hundreds.

759
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:27.519
<v Speaker 3>But I think to Cliff and Bobo's points, it is

760
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 3>about being in the right place at the right time.

761
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 3>And so if you find the right place and you

762
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 3>can be there as close to all the time as possible,

763
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 3>your odds do go up.

764
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean, I've seen a lot of silhouette, not

765
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 4>a lot, but I've seen several silhouettes, and like you know, thermal,

766
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, at the distance. But I still have I

767
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 4>still haven't had that setting where I've seen like muscles

768
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.880
<v Speaker 4>and you know, see the face and I got a glimpse.

769
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 4>I got a glimpse of half of a face and

770
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 4>half of us of a body of a squash. But

771
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 4>it was so it was just like it was like

772
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 4>a blink of an eye. It was was a So

773
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 4>I still haven't had that like defining just jaw dropping,

774
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 4>like oh my god, like one of those sidings like

775
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 4>daylight or you know, car headlights or you know, well illuminated,

776
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 4>nothing like that.

777
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and both And if I can say I have

778
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 2>two sightings, which would be weird. I think that the

779
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>one in North Carolina was a sasquatch, but I even

780
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>have doubts about that sometimes. And the one in Texas,

781
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 2>who knows what that was. I mean maybe it was.

782
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:29.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean both of my if I count both of

783
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 2>them even as sightings, they don't even add up to

784
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 2>one good one. So they're both class B B minus,

785
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 2>I would say. But whatever, So luck, Yeah, just keep

786
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 2>going back.

787
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 3>Indeed, Yeah, being out there all the time, like Bobo said,

788
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 3>luck is where preparation meets opportunity. But you can make

789
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 3>opportunity and the other saying that I really love is

790
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 3>like opportunity dances, but only with those who are already

791
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 3>on the dance floor. So get your dance and shoes on, Paul,

792
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 3>get out there here ease. Another voicemail.

793
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:05.440
<v Speaker 12>Hi guys, Matt from Cleveland, Ohio. Again, Cliff, I mention

794
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.239
<v Speaker 12>you at the Red River Gorge Bigfoot Festival in Kentucky.

795
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 12>And man, that wasn't honor, Like I couldn't. I couldn't

796
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 12>believe that I met you, and and I saw Jeff

797
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 12>Melsrum and the Mountain monsters. But my question that I

798
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 12>that I thought of is I saw the Patterson film

799
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 12>and the Freeman film, and I've heard people talk about

800
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 12>this that when they when the creatures walk, it's like

801
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 12>a rise, pause and fall movement and they say that's

802
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 12>like the mid tarsal break doing that or causing that.

803
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 12>I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. And

804
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 12>and if you guys have ever noticed that with the

805
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 12>with those Bigfoot videos kind of that that specific movement.

806
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, and like always keep it squashy hmm. Well,

807
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the rise, pause and fall thing. You can see that

808
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 2>in the in the pall in the Freeman footage, both

809
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Freeman footages, which is interesting, But Patty, I don't think,

810
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>really does that at all. She has more that smooth

811
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>glide that is often reported, and I think that is

812
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.480
<v Speaker 2>mostly a function of the speed that the animal is walking.

813
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 2>The Freeman animal wasn't walking very quickly. It wasn't trying

814
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>to get out and necessarily trying to leave the area immediately.

815
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 2>It actually exposed itself and looked at Paul pretty good

816
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and then as maybe like, hey, watch yourself kind of think,

817
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.079
<v Speaker 2>and Patty did the same thing. But Patty in the

818
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>PG film, she just basically walked, kind of assessed the situation,

819
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>took a look at the guys, and walked away. People

820
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:36.199
<v Speaker 2>criticized the PG film by saying, well, why didn't you

821
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>just run off into the woods or whatever, But she

822
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 2>did very typical Sasquatch behavior, something that we call the

823
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 2>castle and moat idea, where the bigfoots are always in

824
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the castle and there's always a moat between you and it.

825
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 2>They basically they try to put some sort of obstacle

826
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 2>between where it is and where you are. It could

827
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 2>be a river, it could be a stand of trees.

828
00:37:56.199 --> 00:38:00.119
<v Speaker 2>In the PG film, it was actually the big the logjam,

829
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.159
<v Speaker 2>the big pile of debris there. So she took the

830
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 2>shortest route to get that obstacle between her and Roger

831
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and Bob, and then she basically walked straight away from them.

832
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.760
<v Speaker 2>The Freeman footage is a little bit and when she's

833
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:16.559
<v Speaker 2>walking by the way, when Patty is walking, it's very

834
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>very smooth. And the step lengths were like forty two

835
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 2>inches or something if I remember right, forty two forty

836
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 2>three inches somewhere in there, and so she was kind

837
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>of cooking. She was moving in like five miles an

838
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.519
<v Speaker 2>hour or something. Somebody did the calculations once. I don't

839
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>remember how how fast that was, but she was going

840
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty fast. Not running, but she was really moving. And

841
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.639
<v Speaker 2>in fact, I was talking to Isaac t In a

842
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 2>few months ago he says that at first she wasn't

843
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 2>moving that fast, and it was when Roger started to

844
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 2>chasing her, when maybe when Bob crossed the river, that

845
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 2>she really started hoofing it. And that's when she started

846
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>the arm swings, Like the arms weren't swinging as much

847
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 2>in the early couple frames of the film. I guess

848
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.400
<v Speaker 2>when she really started moving, that's when you see the

849
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>inline step, that tight rope walk thing that people make

850
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>way too much of. That's not a consistent feature. That

851
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:07.159
<v Speaker 2>it's way overblown, but it does exist. And also her

852
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.199
<v Speaker 2>arms are swinging and she's really moving, and that's when

853
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 2>you get the compliant gait. That compliant gate is from

854
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.679
<v Speaker 2>the bending of the knee to kind of cushion at

855
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>ackt like a shock absorber for their huge mass, and

856
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>that's why you get that not a lot of head

857
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 2>bob But in the in the framan footage, the thing's

858
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.280
<v Speaker 2>moving pretty slowly, and I believe that it kind of walked,

859
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:29.599
<v Speaker 2>walked through, shot a couple of mean glances at Paul,

860
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and then walked back towards where it may have picked

861
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.599
<v Speaker 2>up a juvenile, because if you've seen that section of

862
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.360
<v Speaker 2>the footage later on, it does seem to be picking

863
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>something up, and it does in fact look like danglely legs,

864
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 2>like some sort of infant thing. So who knows. And

865
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 2>to add to it a little bit, it's interesting that Paul.

866
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to check the dates on this one, and

867
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I have to look at my computer right now, but

868
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Paul filmed another one previously in April, and he never

869
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.880
<v Speaker 2>released it because it wasn't very good. You can barely

870
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 2>see anything in it. There's a really lousy version of

871
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it out on YouTube somewhere I forget where. But that

872
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 2>same April, though, Paul cast those juvenile footprints. Those were

873
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 2>like the seven inches or something like that. He casts

874
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>juvenile footprints in the general vicinity of where these things

875
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>were being filmed in nineteen ninety two, And so it

876
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 2>does kind of make sense that maybe the creature and

877
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 2>the deduct footage, the famous Freeman footage, does in fact

878
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 2>picked up something. So I think the animal was kind

879
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 2>of like maybe showboating in the sect for a moment

880
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:32.960
<v Speaker 2>to kind of show Paul like I'm here, I'm big

881
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and bad. You stay there, And then it walked pretty

882
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 2>much directly towards where it may be picking up the

883
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 2>juvenile later. We don't know, but different gates, different bounce

884
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to the head because different speeds of the walk, and

885
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that has a lot to do with them.

886
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 6>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

887
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 6>Will be right back after these messages.

888
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 3>And so here's the last of the voicemails before we

889
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 3>go into a few of the written questions.

890
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 8>Hey, Cliff and Bobo. This this j Z from Nebraska.

891
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 8>I wanted to know, since you eat, sleep, and do

892
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 8>everything Bigfoot, do you ever have dreams about Bigfoot at night?

893
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 8>Thanks for your podcast.

894
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 13>I'm really enjoying it, and I also really loved Finding

895
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 13>Bigfoot when it was on. Thanks a lot for doing

896
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:36.920
<v Speaker 13>the research, I believe.

897
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 4>Thank you for listening and watching.

898
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:43.280
<v Speaker 2>We've talked about this, Bobo, do you have dreams about Bigfoot?

899
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.559
<v Speaker 4>I used to know because I just didn't really dream

900
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 4>that much about too much. But over the last few years,

901
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean I've always had them. It's more like daydreaming.

902
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 4>I have tons of daydreams about them, like all day.

903
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I've had some. You know. It actually made

904
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.760
<v Speaker 4>me more empathetic and sympathetic to people that report like

905
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:02.719
<v Speaker 4>having these scary like they be like I had these

906
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 4>scary dreams, and like they then they'd be afraid out

907
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 4>in the field. I'd be like, it's just a dream, dude,

908
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 4>Like what are you tripping on? Like it's just a dream.

909
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 4>Why do you look that body? And then I had

910
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 4>some really like where I remember the dreams really clear,

911
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 4>like uh, like where I was super traumatized in the dream,

912
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 4>like I had like a face to face like you know,

913
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 4>like ten feet the thing steps out on the path

914
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 4>like and like where people have described me, you know,

915
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 4>like where it's it's just looks evil and its face

916
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 4>is snarling and its eyes are just glaring at you,

917
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 4>and looks like it's going to kill you, you know,

918
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 4>like it's it's this massive thing just back like and

919
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 4>like that whole I had some really like I guess nightmares,

920
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, like and I was like, whoa that was?

921
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 4>That was intense that maybe like maybe I don't want

922
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 4>to like face to face up close one like like

923
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 4>that close. You know, I always thought I did, Yeah

924
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 4>you do. Yeah.

925
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't say I dream about sasquatches.

926
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:56.199
<v Speaker 4>You know.

927
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I may be doing bigfoot things or maybe at the

928
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 2>museum sometimes in my dreams, but I can't say I've

929
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 2>observed sasquatches in my dreams. I think I have once,

930
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what the context was, because I'm one

931
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>of those people that doesn't remember their dreams very well.

932
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, once you wake up, it kind of fades

933
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 2>and suddenly it's gone. So I don't know. I wish

934
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I could help you better, JC, but I just I

935
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>just don't really dream about sasquatch stuff. Yeah, I mean,

936
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 2>which is good because that gives me some sort of

937
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 2>balance to my life. At least eight hours a day,

938
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not thinking about bigfoot.

939
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen a sasquatch in my dreams, and I

940
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 3>am a pretty vivid dreamer and I remember them.

941
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Well.

942
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what I do dream about often, much

943
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 3>to my dismay, is editing. I dream about waveforms going

944
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 3>by and me editing them. Yeah, exactly.

945
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Used to have tons of dreams about getting attacked

946
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 4>by a great white shark.

947
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, Well, let's grab There are three written submissions

948
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>that have come in, so let me throw those in

949
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 3>here before we roll over to our beloved pigeons.

950
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Let's see what we got. First off, Sarah, pray. What

951
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:07.199
<v Speaker 4>does that say? Pro is that pray?

952
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 2>There's two a's I would say, pray.

953
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Sarah, pray. Hey, Cliff and Bobo, I want to

954
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 4>thank you for all your time in the field and

955
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 4>collecting scientific data to support the existence of the creature.

956
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Do you feel as if sasquatch are becoming bolder and

957
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 4>more curious? What would you recommend to someone who encounters one?

958
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Should we run or hold our ground, Blue says hi

959
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 4>to you both. Hello, I know who that is. Hello, Sarah. Yeah,

960
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know the last name there. I know who

961
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 4>this is now.

962
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.639
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think sasquatches are becoming anything different than

963
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>they always were. I don't think they're like there's a

964
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 2>there's a change in their behaviors. I just don't see

965
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 2>that anywhere. So, and remember, these things are individuals. You

966
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>can't say this is true for the entire species continent

967
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>wide or anything like that. It's just that some are

968
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:58.679
<v Speaker 2>some are curious, some don't want anything to do with you,

969
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Some are bold, some are very timid, some do this,

970
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>some do that. They're They're not like white mice or

971
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 2>something that you can pretty much if you know one,

972
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you know them all sort of thing. But I mean,

973
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.639
<v Speaker 2>who knows, maybe white mice, you know, like laboratory mice.

974
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe other personalities as well. I don't know, but these

975
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>things definitely have personalities and individual traits and proclivities of

976
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 2>their own.

977
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.440
<v Speaker 3>So what say you run or hold their ground?

978
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:26.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've found whenever I don't, if I just stand there,

979
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.119
<v Speaker 4>they just they'll leave, like they take it to a

980
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 4>certain point. And then if you don't buckle and take off.

981
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 4>They'll just they'll just like just let you know they're

982
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 4>just gruntled like they like, and then just walk off.

983
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, i'd say hold your ground or walk slowly towards them. Yeah, yeah,

984
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:46.199
<v Speaker 2>because you walk towards them, you might get some footage

985
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. But run You aren't gonna outrun

986
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>one anyway, and then it's dangerous to go running around

987
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>in the woods frankly, you know, Yeah, hold your ground

988
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>if you're really worried about it, just like crouch down

989
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.440
<v Speaker 2>on the ground and try not to make direct eye

990
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>contact with him. But I mean, how are you going

991
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 2>to stop yourself from staring at the thing that you

992
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:05.000
<v Speaker 2>want to see so bad?

993
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would definitely recommend the holding the ground that

994
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 3>that sort of reminds me. I don't think I've ever

995
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:12.880
<v Speaker 3>told this story of the podcast, but many years ago,

996
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.000
<v Speaker 3>right when I had first joined the BFRO, I was

997
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 3>invited to go out in the field with these other

998
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 3>people and they were quite the cast of characters. And

999
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 3>so we did this night walk one night and there

1000
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 3>was something moving around in the brush and so I

1001
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 3>went after it. I could tell it was something small,

1002
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 3>and they were.

1003
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Like, I tell him he's there, don't go over, he's here.

1004
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.920
<v Speaker 3>And as I started walking towards it, it froze and

1005
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.960
<v Speaker 3>one of the guys shouted. He said, no, go, no further.

1006
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 4>He's holding his ground.

1007
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:40.519
<v Speaker 3>And then I shine in the light and it was

1008
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 3>an armadillo, which we now have in North Georgia. But

1009
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, back when I was going up, there were

1010
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 3>no armadillos in southern appal Asia and now they're everywhere,

1011
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.239
<v Speaker 3>so I'd never seen one out in the woods before,

1012
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 3>and so I was like, oh wow, you know, and

1013
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 3>I said that out loud, and the guy thought I

1014
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 3>was looking at a sasquatch because he couldn't see what

1015
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 3>I was seeing.

1016
00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.480
<v Speaker 4>And he goes, I.

1017
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 3>Bet you never seen them, Like guess have you? And

1018
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 3>I said, now, I've never seen an armadillo in the

1019
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 3>wild before. They got pretty deflated, and so on the

1020
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.880
<v Speaker 3>way back he said, I bet you're going to tell

1021
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 3>them b f ros we ain't real bigfoot researchers. And

1022
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, I probably won't tell too many

1023
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:20.360
<v Speaker 3>people about this, but now, what is it. Eighteen years later,

1024
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling tens of thousands of people about it.

1025
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 4>So, uh, you know, my first armadilla encounter was I

1026
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 4>think I was. I think I was with Renee maybe,

1027
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 4>but we were at the Bridges property down in Florida,

1028
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 4>North Florida. And then I was hearing the sun. It

1029
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:36.920
<v Speaker 4>was dry leaves and everything like I was hearing this.

1030
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's obviously something making a bunch of noise

1031
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:40.440
<v Speaker 4>went to the leeds and I was like, I can't

1032
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:43.039
<v Speaker 4>identify the animal, like I kind of, I can't identify it.

1033
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Then we couldn't see it on thermal, and then finally

1034
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.679
<v Speaker 4>we got on thermal and I was like, no way's armadilla.

1035
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 4>And I was like I I was just it was.

1036
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:56.880
<v Speaker 4>It was. But being from the West, you know, I

1037
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 4>never you know, California. I'd never heard one in the

1038
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 4>in the in the so it was a learning experience

1039
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 4>for sure.

1040
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Every time I read those words hold your ground, you know,

1041
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I can hear that guy's voice in my mind going,

1042
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 3>don't go no further.

1043
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.679
<v Speaker 4>He's holding his ground. I want to hang out with

1044
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 4>these guys.

1045
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Sound like fun?

1046
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Alrighty, Well, let me grab the next written submission.

1047
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 7>Here.

1048
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 3>We'll be getting a lot of these kind of questions

1049
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:25.920
<v Speaker 3>which are often very fun.

1050
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this question comes from Drew Ryan, Hey, guys, I

1051
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 2>love the show. If you could go back in time

1052
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 2>and have a conversation about Bigfoot with any historical figure

1053
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.559
<v Speaker 2>or any person in general, who would it be?

1054
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 4>For me?

1055
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Personally, I would choose Teddy Roosevelts. I would love to

1056
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.880
<v Speaker 2>hear him tell the story of his Bigfoot encounter in person,

1057
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.039
<v Speaker 2>and maybe even be lucky enough to go on an

1058
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:48.239
<v Speaker 2>expedition with them.

1059
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Awesome for me.

1060
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if Teddy Roosevelt had a big

1061
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Foot encounter. He did tell the story of the Bauman incident.

1062
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 4>No, he did, as willdness Hunter book, he had one

1063
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:59.360
<v Speaker 4>in Washington State, something that he couldn't identify, a circle

1064
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 4>in the camp growling and making weird noises and breaking

1065
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.639
<v Speaker 4>big branches, and he didn't he didn't think it was

1066
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 4>a bear horror move.

1067
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Not sure that's accurate. He did talk about sounds like

1068
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:12.159
<v Speaker 2>something coming down the hill making a lot of noise,

1069
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:14.280
<v Speaker 2>but not circling the camp and breaking I don't think

1070
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 2>that's accurate, But for whatever that's worth, that's.

1071
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:18.599
<v Speaker 4>Worth a lot. Maybe I was mixing it up with

1072
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:19.639
<v Speaker 4>the Ballman story.

1073
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe, maybe, Yeah, But I think he mentioned having

1074
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 2>vocals eight or hearing something wailing or something and going

1075
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 2>down the hillside one other time. But it's not like

1076
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.599
<v Speaker 2>he had one in camp or something. I'm pretty confident

1077
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:32.199
<v Speaker 2>of that one.

1078
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:36.039
<v Speaker 4>I'd take Albert Osman his bigfoot kidnapping story. That'd be

1079
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 4>the one I'd talk to him.

1080
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were just born a few years too late

1081
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 2>for that one. Hmm. That's a hard question. I'm drawn

1082
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 2>towards the Ape Canyon story, but I don't know if

1083
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:51.599
<v Speaker 2>I would want to talk to Fred Beck necessarily, maybe

1084
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Leroy Smith and one of the other guys that was

1085
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 2>there with him.

1086
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:58.599
<v Speaker 4>But who who had a more long sustained observation than Osman.

1087
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, No, probably nobody. But I have doubts

1088
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:03.760
<v Speaker 2>about Ousmin.

1089
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Don't you Derek Cliff, don't you do it?

1090
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Don't go there, Cliff, I've been hold my ground, Bobo,

1091
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 2>don't go no further. No, I don't know. I mean Oustmin'.

1092
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 2>There's things about it that ring true, and there's an

1093
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:20.760
<v Speaker 2>awful lot that doesn't. So I don't know. I don't

1094
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 2>know about Osmin. It's one of those that the things

1095
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:24.480
<v Speaker 2>that I don't it don't come down real hard on

1096
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:25.000
<v Speaker 2>either side.

1097
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 4>So that is a good question.

1098
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I'd be cool to talk to like any of the

1099
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:32.639
<v Speaker 3>early folks who were gathering information, Like it would have

1100
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 3>been cool to talk to Avan Sanderson.

1101
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's my second.

1102
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh what about that the cop from Bellingham? What's his name?

1103
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:38.880
<v Speaker 4>Joe Dunn?

1104
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Joe Dunn. Yeah, that's the guy, because he's the first

1105
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>guy that anybody was doing anything with, right, Yeah.

1106
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Or like Jeanie Chapman, giveny of those early classic witnesses,

1107
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I guess if there was someone to sit down with,

1108
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Ousmin would be a good one, because even if you

1109
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 3>had doubts, it's like, wow, it's still be fun to

1110
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.760
<v Speaker 3>interview the guy for you know, a day and see

1111
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.599
<v Speaker 3>what you could come up with get some information.

1112
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 4>Or J. W.

1113
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Burns, I don't just it's fascinating to think about people

1114
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 3>gathering information at a time when you could look at

1115
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 3>the whole of North America and there were less than

1116
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 3>a dozen people total gathering that information. Like how amazing.

1117
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:18.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm assuming Ausman's told like he's not, you know,

1118
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 4>he had this event happen. Just hearing people tell other

1119
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.880
<v Speaker 4>stories about a sighting or this or that is nothing

1120
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 4>comparative like this guy lived them for a week.

1121
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, I'd like to talk to any

1122
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 2>of the Blue Mountain folks. I mean, Paul's dead. I

1123
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:36.639
<v Speaker 2>know Michael pretty well, I kind of know Dwayne and

1124
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 2>his other son. But I'd love to take the Paul

1125
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.000
<v Speaker 2>because there's some discrepancies that I think are pretty easily

1126
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.920
<v Speaker 2>worked out if you could just talk to the guy,

1127
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, like what happened immediately after the d Duck

1128
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 2>footage for example, or you know, West Summerland probably would

1129
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 2>have been a lot of fun to talk to. Totally

1130
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 2>missed him, but I've got a lot of friends who

1131
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 2>had spoken to him. That's kind of what I'm doing now.

1132
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's all sorts of historical figures still walking

1133
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 2>around on the planet, and I'm trying to try down

1134
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.039
<v Speaker 2>and get a hold of them. Just got a hold

1135
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:04.039
<v Speaker 2>of another guy out in the Blues that the historical

1136
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 2>guy that isn't active anymore. I'm going to call him

1137
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:10.039
<v Speaker 2>this afternoon and meet with him next Thursday. Actually, these

1138
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.159
<v Speaker 2>opportunities are still here, and I think that's one of

1139
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:14.039
<v Speaker 2>the neat things about what we're doing at the NBC

1140
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.280
<v Speaker 2>at least, and the position weren't as a podcast unit here.

1141
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Drew is that we're we're trying to track down these

1142
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.079
<v Speaker 2>historical figures and actually have those conversations that we missed

1143
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:26.440
<v Speaker 2>out on back in the day with you know whoever else,

1144
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:29.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, Roger Patterson or Paul Freeman or you know

1145
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Albert Osman or Fred Beck, any of those folks. We're

1146
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:34.679
<v Speaker 2>trying to do that before it's too late. And I

1147
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 2>think that's really cool. Oh I'd love to talk to

1148
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Bob Timmus.

1149
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's a good one.

1150
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he was there from the very beginning. But

1151
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to speak to Jerry Crew. You know, I

1152
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:49.159
<v Speaker 2>know so much just by speaking to his son about

1153
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.440
<v Speaker 2>the event. I mean, imagine what Jerry has to off

1154
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:52.559
<v Speaker 2>or he was actually there.

1155
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would have really been a good one. I

1156
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 3>think there's a few of those figures who probably collected

1157
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.920
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot more information that we never heard about.

1158
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Besides Bob Tipness, Like, I think Jim Howkin would have

1159
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 3>been another one, because those brief writings of his are great.

1160
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1161
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jim Howkins is very interesting stuff, very interesting character,

1162
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 2>probably got into pretty some UFO stuff towards later in life.

1163
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Larry Lend was telling me because he knew Jim pretty well.

1164
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Jack Sullivan. There's another one that you know. He was

1165
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>a teacher over in Colton. I think his son works

1166
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.800
<v Speaker 2>as some Chevy dealership, but I'm having a hard time

1167
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 2>tracking him down. But threads exist. You maybe you can't

1168
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 2>talk to the person, but you can talk to the

1169
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.360
<v Speaker 2>person right next to that person. Like I spoke to

1170
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 2>John Crewe, Jerry Crew's son, for example, and you know

1171
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:36.599
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing.

1172
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think. Who was I talked to someone's

1173
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.280
<v Speaker 4>grand great niece one time, and like, god, who was?

1174
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.199
<v Speaker 4>It was an old timer that had and I remember

1175
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 4>she she'd only you know, hung out of them and

1176
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:48.920
<v Speaker 4>heard him talk about it a couple of times with

1177
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:53.119
<v Speaker 4>who she But anyway, she enlightened me, like just a

1178
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:55.719
<v Speaker 4>couple of things, like she just threw out like just

1179
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 4>kind of like how like didn't think anything of it.

1180
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:00.559
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, what he said, but what you know,

1181
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.320
<v Speaker 4>it's like one of those situations and I was like, oh,

1182
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, I learned something from them.

1183
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Even Yeah, there's a lot to learn from the historical

1184
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>record of the people who were there, who either watched

1185
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:11.800
<v Speaker 2>it or knew the people who watched it.

1186
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, Yeah, definitely not getting to meet Tom Slickson.

1187
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 3>That was very cool, obviously, Like the highlight for me

1188
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.320
<v Speaker 3>was getting to meet John Green. It's been a few

1189
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 3>days with him. But there's a lot of these people

1190
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.639
<v Speaker 3>still around. Some of them, you know, I don't want

1191
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:27.480
<v Speaker 3>to mention on the podcast because I don't want someone

1192
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 3>else to go scoop them before we get interview them.

1193
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 3>But there's several people that I hold in high esteem

1194
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 3>that have never given interviews that I think would be

1195
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.400
<v Speaker 3>great to have on this podcast. But they are, like

1196
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Cliff meanged, very very hard to track down. But we're

1197
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:43.199
<v Speaker 3>always still kind of working on that.

1198
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'll be extending an invitation this Thursday to

1199
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:47.800
<v Speaker 2>the person I'm meeting with. Hopefully they can come on

1200
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:51.239
<v Speaker 2>the podcast and regale us with some you know, cool

1201
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 2>stories from the past.

1202
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:57.800
<v Speaker 6>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

1203
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.239
<v Speaker 6>Will be right back after these messages.

1204
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Here is the final written submission for the September Q

1205
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:10.400
<v Speaker 3>and A episode.

1206
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:14.159
<v Speaker 4>Mike from Vermont. I'll be attending the New York big

1207
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Foot Conference in October after hearing about it for a

1208
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:19.079
<v Speaker 4>few episodes. It's going to be the first non work

1209
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:21.920
<v Speaker 4>conference i'll attend. In general, what can I expect? What

1210
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:26.800
<v Speaker 4>do you like or not like from attendees? Just shower,

1211
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 4>be where you take a picture with us. That's the rough,

1212
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:32.559
<v Speaker 4>especially when it's like a summer one, when it's like

1213
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 4>super hot and tumid out Like a yeah, take a

1214
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.480
<v Speaker 4>shower and brush your teeth please, if you're gonna come

1215
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:41.280
<v Speaker 4>up and put your arm around me and talk close

1216
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 4>for a couple of minutes. That's that's my only advice.

1217
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.400
<v Speaker 4>And then, uh, what do I like about it? It's

1218
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:50.239
<v Speaker 4>a Well, you're gonna you're gonna meet some really cool people.

1219
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna hear's some great stories. You're gonna learn something.

1220
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.199
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna you're gonna hear some kind of big foot

1221
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:58.679
<v Speaker 4>behavior that maybe you've never heard before. You've heard once

1222
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 4>or you know once or twice over the years, but

1223
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.039
<v Speaker 4>you just weren't sure. You know, did you meet someone

1224
00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 4>face to face? I can tell you they saw the

1225
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.079
<v Speaker 4>same behavior. You know. Gosh, there's a you can get

1226
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:11.320
<v Speaker 4>some cool uh you know for your office or workspace

1227
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 4>or home decorator. You get some cool little bigfoot trinkets,

1228
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, like little decorations or stickers or whatever. I

1229
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 4>mean there's there's some fun stuff there, and you're gonna

1230
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 4>meet cool people, and you're gonna learn some uh you're

1231
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.639
<v Speaker 4>gonna learn some stuff about bigfoot behavior, and you'll learn

1232
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:31.719
<v Speaker 4>about uh some semi delusional people, delusional people, very fact

1233
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:35.000
<v Speaker 4>focused people. You'll you'll uh learn all kinds of things.

1234
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think from the New York conference in particular.

1235
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is being co organized by Mark de Werth,

1236
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:41.559
<v Speaker 2>who does the Ohio Conference here year, which is one

1237
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:44.119
<v Speaker 2>of my favorite conferences. Love going to Ohio. There's always

1238
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 2>good events out there, and Mark's been running his like

1239
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 2>clockwork for a long time now, so he's kind of

1240
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.480
<v Speaker 2>helping organize this one. So I think you can expect

1241
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:55.559
<v Speaker 2>a well run gig basically a well run show, uh

1242
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 2>in this one. I mean, doctor Meldrum is going to

1243
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 2>be there, doctor Estemon Sarmiento, who's a definitely have conversations

1244
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.960
<v Speaker 2>with him. He's amazing, super funny guy. I'll be there,

1245
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Renee will be there, Adam Davies will be there. So

1246
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you kind of get out of these things what you

1247
00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:13.239
<v Speaker 2>put in in a way, it depends and also depends

1248
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 2>what kind of person you are and what you enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>if if you like learning stuff and whatever, take a

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<v Speaker 2>small notebook to all the lectures you know and take

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<v Speaker 2>notes that sort of thing. I know, doctor Meldrum always

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<v Speaker 2>puts on a very informative talk and Esteban, who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what he'll talk about. He's great, He's unpredictable and chaotic,

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<v Speaker 2>he's wonderful and super knowledgeable. And you spend time over

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<v Speaker 2>there in Africa dealing with gorillas and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and like living in the rush amongst the gorillas and

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<v Speaker 2>super knowledgeable at primates in general. But yeah, you get

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<v Speaker 2>out of it what you put into it, essentially. If

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<v Speaker 2>the lectures aren't your bag, then maybe then you like

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<v Speaker 2>shopping or something. There's probably a lot of vendors there.

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<v Speaker 2>Visit every vendor, look over what they have, talk to him,

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<v Speaker 2>see what they have to offer. A lot of cute stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of innovative products in general, not like bigfooting

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<v Speaker 2>gear necessarily, although sometimes you get some of that there,

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely cute things for the kitchen or something, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of deal. Yeah, I think you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy yourself kind of being surrounded by like minded individuals

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<v Speaker 2>exploring a topic that you obviously find interesting. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get a lot out of it. These these

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<v Speaker 2>are good networking opportunities. These are great opportunities to hear

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit directly from the mouth of people who

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe were on TV shows, or you can

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<v Speaker 2>ask them, was that real? What was the story behind this?

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of stuff. It's just a good opportunity, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find that these people that you might may or

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<v Speaker 2>may not be putting on a pedestal, Like a guy

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<v Speaker 2>earlier commented that he was super super honored to meet

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<v Speaker 2>me and say, well, that's nice, but it's just me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm no big deal. I often say, don't put me

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<v Speaker 2>on a pedestal because you don't want to see what's

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<v Speaker 2>up my skirt. But you're going to find that these

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<v Speaker 2>people that you put on a pedestal are just folks.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just folks who are learning about the subject just

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<v Speaker 2>like you. And I think that's one of the valuable

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<v Speaker 2>things about going to these things is you can actually

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<v Speaker 2>make contact with people that you might look up to

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<v Speaker 2>in the field. Bigfoot is such a feel that your

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<v Speaker 2>idols can become your friends, and I think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>an important thing to remember here. We're all just folks

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<v Speaker 2>exploring a similar interest. So that's what you can expect

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<v Speaker 2>out of the New York conference, which is on October

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<v Speaker 2>third and fourth out there in Johnstown, New York. Go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and click the link that Matt Prutals probably put

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<v Speaker 2>in the show notes below if you want more information.

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<v Speaker 3>And that does it for the September twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>Q and A episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, folks, well that's another episode. Thanks for joining us,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you have any questions send them in to us.

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<v Speaker 4>You can leave a voicemail or you can write it

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<v Speaker 4>out and so we appreciate you tuning in. Spread the word.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've got a story or something Bigfoot in County

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<v Speaker 4>you want to share with us, we'd like to hear

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<v Speaker 4>from you too. Till next week, you all keep it squatchy.

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