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Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, I'm proud to be here.
Speaker 2: Well, it's great halfn you. Eric. Please give us a
brief bio in yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm just a person it's willing to help anybody that
would need help. It doesn't matter who it is. I
just don't give up on anything. If I'm wanting to
learn something, I just keep striving for more. I'm just
a laid back person, just trying to get through life
the way I can, and I just want to have
a nice, peaceful way through life.
Speaker 2: Well that's not too much to ask. It's no secret
that most people never have a single dog me An encounter. You,
on the other hand, have had multiple encounters. Have you
ever had any other paranormal experiences though, And if so,
what do you think it is about you that seems
to draw these things to you.
Speaker 1: I I do have some other weird stuff that would happen,
Like I did live in a house that was haunted
by a demon, and that was one thing that really
scared me. You know, that's something that I don't ever
want anybody to go through, because when you're sitting there
watching TV or just relaxing and all of a sudden,
your doors, all your doors open and slam and everything
in your porch like goes on and off constantly, and
it's just like, what is going on? But then when
I was taking a shower, that was the last time
I seen what I seen, and I got out. I
didn't care. I got out of the house, just threw
pair of pants on, left. That was just that was
too much for me. I was taking the shower and
all of a sudden, from the light in the bathroom
where the light was shining down, shining down on me,
all of a sudden, this big mass of a big
black shadow comes up and engulfs my shadow, like you
couldn't see nothing when I've seen that. That's when I
ended up right now, that house. That was kind of funny,
just seeing somebody just throw a pair of pants on
and just booking it out of the house and I
never back.
Speaker 2: I don't blame you. I'm sure that wasn't funny. For
you though, And just to be honest, I probably would
have run out of the house snaky if something like
that happened to me. Only cow.
Speaker 1: Well, I just didn't really get in the cops on me.
That's why I put them.
Speaker 2: On well better the cops and the demon on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had, like, like I said, like I've told people,
I just found out recently that my family told me
that we have Native American in our bloodline. And I thought, well,
could some of this be like being close to like nature,
like with certain things like that I'd like used to
love to do and and everything like go out in woods,
do what I need to do, and like whatever. Yeah,
it kind of puts a little bit of a perspective
on some things right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a just might. When it comes
to your encounters with paranormal beings like the demon that
you said you encountered in the shower, and you said
when you would watch TV to have other experiences. When
it comes to those experiences and your dog meeting encounters,
do you think it's more to do with your Native
American heritage or at any time in your life have
you ever played with the Wiji board?
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, that's one
thing I don't believe it in that. Not only that
I don't care to get into that. That's just something
I don't want nothing to do with. I've heard too
much stories about them, and I'm just like whatever, I'd
rather stay away from it. The anything I could do.
Speaker 2: That's always a good policy. I'm glad you have it.
When we spoke for the first time about your encounters,
especially that encounter with that dog me impact that you had,
it sounded to me like you're ready to have a
come apart. How are you now?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm doing better now. I'm not dealing with a
bunch of stuff. And I was able to be able
to get a good night's sleep for once in the
longest time, and having to deal with what I dealt
with and everything, it was just having that weight off
my shoulders was something that was able to have me
be able to relax and be able to fall asleep.
And yeah, I get emotional over it because it's been
first time in about nine years.
Speaker 2: It's been a long time.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but everything that has happened was happening within
those nine years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really long time.
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear of a how a a wolf laughs?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't.
Speaker 1: This is one thing that popped in my mind. I
was reading on YouTube on not just reading but listening,
and then going through other channels and stuff about how
laugh and the way the recording was was the same
way as what I heard in those woods at night
when I would be sleeping in bed, I would hear that.
And and when I would hear that, it it'd wake
you up. It was so loud it literally wake you up.
It was weird and you're kind of wondering what it
was and stuff like that. That's one thing I forgot
that I wanted to say, And that's one thing that
popped in my mind because that there hearing that, and
not only that, hearing them so close enough to where
they not not I mean when they really, you know,
let it all out. I mean it was so close
that the dogs that were with me and one was
blind with followed, tried to follow me the whole way down.
I had to get them in the house and everything
and keep it from being outside because it was that
loud and it was that close, and it had to
be at least maybe about thirty yards, not very far. Away.
I mean it was loud, it was, and it was
so powerful though too. It was just I don't want
to experience that. That's something that that there would scare
anybody just hearing something like that not knowing what it is.
Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it would. Yeah, it's hard to get a
good night's sleep after something like that, and without telling
us any details from your encounters yet, did that sound
that you heard happened before or after your dog mean encounters.
Speaker 1: That actually happened. That's when it first started. When I
heard that. That's one thing I forgot to bring up.
But yeah, that there, It was the first thing that started.
That's why I brought it up. Now, that was the
first thing that started. Was that?
Speaker 2: So that was the prelude to all this I see? Okay, Well, yeah,
by all means, thanks for telling me. After having that
encounter with that pack of dog man. It's hard enough
to deal with the fact that it didn't given time
you might bump into just one dog man. How do
you deal with the knowledge though, that it didn't, given
time you might encounter that pack of them again.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to I'm not living in
that area no more. I just I do have a
strong urge to go back, but I'm not stepping foot
anywhere on that property at all. I'm not going back.
There's no way, and I don't advise anybody else to
do that either.
Speaker 2: How long has it been since you had your last encounter, Eric?
Speaker 1: About four years ago?
Speaker 2: Four years?
Speaker 1: I see, like I was saying that, right, There was
a last part of after other thing that was the
end of everything. That's when I just basically got up
and just I got my stuff and I just left
and did not go back. That's when I had enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after that last encounter. Can't blame you at all.
I think a lot of people would have done that.
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All right, Eric, please tell us about your encounters. Now,
give us every last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Sure, I remember this one time we were coming from
I was taking my friend to a to his girlfriends
who were going down there either were having a couple
of drinks and stuff, and I was being a designated
driver bringing them back because I really don't drink. I
gave up up on alcohol. I got sober, got away
from drugs and all that. And when I was bringing
him back from all of that fun that they were having,
it was okay. But I was driving on my way
back home with him and we were coming around this bend.
And we were coming around the bend, all of a sudden,
I seen something something like like laying kind of like
laying up a little bit, but on top of the
where the road is. I thought it was like a
tree branch or something, you know, broke and fell and
landed there. So what I did is I'm like hold on.
I threw my arm across, you know, to hold him
back and whatever. And because I said, I thought we
were going to hit this tree line and I was
gonna veer out away or anything and lose control. But
I just just gonna hit it. And the weirdest part
was nothing. There was no impact. There was no bangs,
no clangs, know, nothing. It was weird end up when
when after that happened, I went down about maybe about
one hundred and fifty feet, turned around, come back. When
I was came back, there was nothing, no tree branch.
Knew nothing, but you literally, from what I could see,
you kind of look like a tree branch. But how
would a tree branch move? Ain't gonna move, So it's like,
what is going on here? So I didn't put anything together,
which I was thinking later on, maybe it was something
that that I don't know could move its hand out
arm out of the way or whatever hand or whatever
moved it out away from being hit because dud, whatever
it was, was coming up out of a colvert. It
came down out of the woods and it was in
the culvert coming up out. But it was just everything
that I had to due to try not to let anything,
you know, try to scare me. So I just put
it in the back of my mind, got in the
car and I left, brought him home, and then a
couple of about a year or two down the road
ended up going through a divorce and I was separated.
I was living with a friend of mine and this
is right close to where that one when I can
say what I thought was going to be an accident,
but it wasn't. It was weird. But anyways, when I
ended up living with him at that time and helping
him out and everything, you know, trying to you know,
just being a friend, you know, the one way I
could do what's right. Just he helped me out with
the place to stay, to be able to get away
from the situation I was in. But while I was
living there, I would do work for him around the house. No,
you can do work on his cars and stuff. I
love working on cars. But one time I was actually
under the car working on it, and I kept getting
this feeling of man, it's just something's weird, something strange,
like I should, you know, basically pull myself up underneath
his vehicle because I have a feeling like something would grab
a hold of me and yank me out from underneath there.
And that kind of like kind of like bothered me.
And it didn't understand, and just always kept putting things
into the back of my mind and all that and
trying not to let it eat at me either let
me drive me nuts or whatever, because I always hold
onto things and bottle things up and I've learned not
to do that. But I'm just having that feeling was.
It was weird. It was just undescribable, like something I
something telling me that something is close around hide or
try to keep visual at minimal, do not be seen.
So I just decided to pack up everything, put everything away,
and I went into the house. But though when I
was underneath the vehicle and before I went to the house,
I just kept having these rocks and stuff that was
kept being thrown up against the siding, a metal siding
of a of a garage type thing, and it just
all you hear is ting keep doing it like something
was trying to get my attention. Something was definitely trying
to get my attention. I just ignored it. Like I said,
I packed my stuff up, went in the house. And
then the second time I seen him was when I
was outside. I was actually on the phone at that time,
and I ended up getting a picture and I was
trying to look at it. Didn't understand it or nothing.
I was just kept figuring out what is going on?
Well here, I took a picture and it was like
all fuzzy at that time, I couldn't see what it was,
but by naked eye I could see what it was,
and it was it was what it was. It was
literally a big foot looking up towards the top of
the ridge where where it was that kind of look
at the bottom and then whatever was up the top.
It was keeping its eyes and visual up on there.
And it was so weird that I did not know anything.
It was just like it kept just didn't care about
me at all. It just kept its eyes on what
was in front of it, and it was any If
anything would happen, it would have done what it would
have done. But that was the second time that I've
seen two different things at one time that that was weird.
But just to have a sighting of two different things,
not just the sighting, but a feeling of two different things,
but one not bothering me and one not. The one
with the big foot didn't really bother me. It just
basically just it didn't. It just just didn't bother He
didn't want it, didn't scare me, didn't do anything. It
just I didn't know what was going on. It was
just kept looking up, looking everywhere. It just would not
just sit there and look at me at all. It
just completely ignored me. But though it was hiding behind
a big pile of logs and stuff, for fire and everything.
It was hidden right behind that. And when it was
hidden behind there, that's when I seen it and everything.
It's just out of place. So I let that go
and just went on with my business, did what I
needed to do, got everything gathered up, everything cleaned up,
out of the yard, got what I needed done, and
then called everything a day and just went in relaxed
and calmed down and all that. And here's another weird
thing that would happen, especially at night where my wall
was a by the by the in the house where
the wall was. The one time, whenever I was laying
down in bed that evening, after cleaning up everything and
all that, on the other side of the wall, I
would hear scratching, like up against the wall, you'd be
scratching or tapping stuff like that. But I would always
leave my window open in the summertime, so it would
always be open. But that my wall right there would
always be something messing with the wall. I just I always,
like I said, I never paid attention. I never mind it.
I just let the go, didn't bother with it. And
then the one time that I was actually up and
underneath that truck again trying to fix it, get it
put together and everything like that. I got that same
feeling again, and I'm just like, all right, I just
had enough because that's when all the things like the
rocks being thrown, all the things happening. I just I
left my tooles, lay, got up and went in the house.
I didn't even bother picking him up, didn't bather putting
them away. I just left. I just got a little
bit scared there at that time because it was the
same thing that kept happening over again, and I just
go out and walked away. And then I remember the
third time this this is this is one that really
kind of this this kind of scared me really good.
When I would smoke, I smoked cigarettes, so I would
go outside and smoke. I would never smoking the house
out of respect. That that was anything that I told him,
and they even told me, and I agreed, and I
told him I would do that no matter what. I
would never smoke in the house. So I would. It
was about maybe about right around first to night. I
was getting ready for bed. I went out to smoke
my last cigarette. I'm sitting there smoking my cigarette and
I had to go to the bathroom. I had to pee.
It and I'm just like, I'm not going to go
in the house and I have to put a cigarette out,
go in the house, and then take a pee and
then walk back out. We're out in the middle of nowhere,
basically almost something, just like, I'll just go right out here.
So I just stood there, did what I needed to do,
smoking my cigarette. And what happened was you know how
dogs sneeze or whatever when they get cigarette smoking their nose,
they'll sneeze. Well, that happened, but it was ten times
I'd even say twenty times louder than that. And when
that happened, I jumped back. I didn't get a look
at nothing, although than he had a full sized conversion
band at that time. And where the tail light was,
you see a hand. It looked like a ractoon's hand.
It came around and it literally covered that whole tail light.
I mean it was The hand was huge, I mean
it covered it. You couldnot see nothing of the tail
light at all period. It basically the size of the
tail light would have been maybe a quarter of an
inch smaller than it's palm. And it's hand was huge.
I mean it was big. As soon as I've seen
that hand I just flicked a cigarette and I didn't
take a chance. I just I got in that house.
I did not want to see what it was. I
did not want anything to deal with it or nothing.
I just went in the house, locked the door, went
to the bedroom shut, my window got it locked and everything.
But eventually later on that night, if you boy waving
up by that like something being broken, which was like
a guess a tree branch, because there was one that
was broken off of the Appera tree and it was
on the ground. It was literally snapped and twisted off
the tree and it was just laying there. I was
just kept thinking them, something that has to be very
very powerful enough to snap this. I'm like, either a
bigfoot or there might be something else. I don't know.
It could be bigfoot, is what I was thinking. Oh,
I left that go, which I should never let things go.
I should do a little bit more research. But at
that time, I just I didn't. I just didn't care.
I just didn't. I just I was worried about one
thing and one thing only, which was me at that time,
and then just haven't like that tree branch green broken,
that's just that is just that there has to have
something that is very, very powerful, and that's something I
thought that I just don't want to walk into or
be around. And then I had my uh, which would
be but my actually it would be my fourth, fourth,
fifth sighting of them. I did have one that I
did see at one point, but I couldn't tell what
it was. It was too far off, and I just
didn't pay attention to anything until I've seen a video
of one because I definitely forgot to tell you this
where I've seen a video of one standing behind the
tree looking around it and it's the same thing I seen,
and it was weird. It was just it just scared me.
And it's just like, what is that I don't always
stay weird all the time. I don't know why, but anyways,
it scared me, and it just I just didn't bother
going up any further than where I was. I didn't.
I wish I could have got a better look at
it at that time, because if I did, I would
be able to understand what was going on or maybe not,
I don't know. That was the one thing that I
did see. And then this fifth one, now, this is
the one that really put everything over the top. This
is when all the stuff got a little bit out
of hand, and I was the day before it all
gone out hand. I had an old car that I
was working on, and like I said, I love working
on cars and everything. I was working on this car
trying to get everything put together and get it up running.
And everything was able to get it running, but it
needed to have brakes. Well, I was always underneath there
trying to fix everything. But later on that night, it
was in the evening time, I ended up. I know
for a fact, I put my tools in the car
and I shut the door on the car. When I
shut the door in the car, I know for one
hundred percent the fact that it was closed because I
never leave any doors opened because I don't want anything wet.
I don't need anything starting to rust on the inside,
or tools or anything. But I had the door closed.
But the following morning, I wake up, I go outside
to go out and smoke a cigarette. Well, the car
door is hanging wide out open. Yeah, I mean it
was wide open. Whatever. It was literally opened that door
and had it open. It was literally wide open. And
I kept thinking of myself, I did I shut that
I shut that door, said, I know, I did, I
know I shut the door because I remember putting the
tools in there and shutting the door. It shouldn't have
been open. So things started feeling weird at that time
because I kind of felt like, you know, what's going on?
You know, like, how can I say it? It felt
really really uncomfortable. It felt like being watched or being
under a microscope basically, because I could feel the kind
of like the pressure of how you have somebody just
staring at you. But like I said, I always just
ignored things and just went on with my business. But
I went over to the porch to find my lighter
and everything. After I went in and told what happened,
come out to get my lighter to sprikles cigarette. My
lighter was gone. Yeah, I always left it out on
the porch railings as I would go out and sprinkles cigarettes.
It was right there on the porch railing. It was missing.
It was gone. I'm like, what the well. I ended
up going in the house, looked trying to find a
spare lighter, couldn't find one, and kept looking, and my
one buddy ended up having to leave from you had
to go I think grocery shore up or you had
to go. I don't know exactly if it was doctors
or groceries, I'm not sure, but he ended up leaving,
and when he left, I went back outside to see
if I find a spare lighter in a vehicle, mine
or or even into my old car. Well, I didn't
make it that far. I walk out the door, go
walk down off the rim. There's a lighter sitting right
there on the ground, literally straight like it was placed
right there. It was literally sat down right there to
like whatever it was. When something buddy to see where
it sat at where it was sitting at, and it
was and it wasn't even I'd say about twenty minutes
took me just basically go find what I needed and
get what I needed done. So wherever did it had
a good amount of time to put it down there.
There was nobody else there at the house other than me,
so it couldn't have been anybody else seeing that laying there.
It's just like what what everything started? Just scared of
me at the point, like uh uh, no way, wherever
this is doing is I don't know if it's a
ghost or what it is or whatever it this. I
want this to stop. This is getting to be irritating.
This is scared of me. Is just to the point
where I'm like, I might be left alone, leave me alone.
Well that didn't happen, because this last this is the
last thing that actually happened, and this really got me scared.
And this is what's this was stupid of me. What
I've done, that could have it could have got worse.
I shouldn't have done what I've done. But I'm glad
I stopped doing what I was doing because when I
was walking out the house and getting up underneath the
vehicle getting ready to work on it, the same thing happened.
Rocks being thrown. That's weird. It just kept happening again.
So I'm like, you know what, I'm so tired of this.
I got up from underneath the vehicle again. Beaupt putting
on the exhaust on his this one. I think it
was his his band. It was it was his band.
I do remember that. Because I got out from underneath,
the walked up around where they would have a like
a it would be a kind of like it used
to be a swimming pool sitting there. So basically you
go up around the swimming pool and you go up
this grade. And when I started walking up towards it.
I only had the flashlight at my phone. That light on,
that's the only one. It wasn't bright enough to get
what I needed to see. Well, when I got around there,
I was walking up in there, I seen six glowing eyes.
Literally the eye shine was green and it was they
were looking at me and everything. So I'm like, well, shoot,
what's this? You know, what should I do? You know?
I turned around, went in the house, got somebody to
come out with me to verify what I was going on.
When he's seen the same thing as I was, I
started walking up towards the tree line. I got bout
maybe that's about eight nine feet from the tree line.
All of a sudden, the one that was in the
middle stood straight up. I mean in a matter of
a second. I mean it stood straight up. That literally
scared me. And when he stood straight up, I'm just
looking at it. I mean it was massive, it was huge.
I got to turn around see if my buddy's behind me.
He's already gone, he's already to the house. He left
me there. I'm like, well, what's going on? Where do
you go? I just turned around took off too. There's
anything I could do. I took off, ran back to
the house and I was able to get to the
front door of the house if you got in, And
I asked him, do you know what that would have been?
What that is whatever? He's like, I have no idea
what that is. And he's like, I don't want to
know what it is. He's like, but that's why I
don't go out at night. I said, Wow, now I'm
not going out at night period. I'm not going into
those woods either. So we were talking and everything, and
while we were talking trying to figure out where it was,
I was getting to the point I'm like, you know what,
I just want to relax. I just want to go
home and go back, go to bed and be able
to get some sleep. So I went back, got in bed,
was getting ready to go into bed, go to bed.
I walked through the door. When I walked through the door,
I see the tallest one was literally standing at my
window seeing me walk through the door and was looking
straight at me. And when it seen me, it kind
of duck down, stared at me for about maybe a
second or two. It didn't move its head or nothing.
It moved its whole body and took off. But when
it turned its whole body. I could see the side
of the face, I could see the ears, I can
see the the the it's nose, it's muzzle, everything, I mean,
it was that there was. Man, I'm getting goosebumps over it,
but that was there is when I'm like I had enough.
I literally dropped to the floor, shut the lights off,
dropped to the floor, and I was down. I laid
there for about maybe five ten minutes. I didn't want
whatever it was, I didn't want it to see me,
didn't want it to just kind of like wondering, how
did how did it know what room I was in?
What what was my room or whatever? How did it know? Well, now,
don't it found out and nose? Like they said, they
they could find out anything if they want to. They're
very intelligent animals. And when it literally did all that
and everything, I had my window cracked open that night
because it ended up getting hot in the house and everything.
But it ended up it did come back. So I
would hear it. You could hear it breathe, you can
hear it walk, you can hear it coming closer to
the house. And when it did, it stopped there at
the corner of the house, and that's where it stopped.
It would not come any closer because we had a
light that would shine off into the into the the driveway,
and it would not come into that. But when it
was like I was, like I was saying, whenever it
was the pack of them. Right that I forgot to
bring up was when I walking When I was walking
up towards it, there was off to the right and
off to the left. You could hear wherever it was
going down and around us to the house, down around
the house. When it was going down around the house,
you couldn't see nothing, but you can hear it. You
can hear them going through the brush. You can hear them,
you know, as much as you could. But then after
that you wouldn't hear nothing. It was just quiet. But
there was one that was down nearby side of the garage,
and one was on the other side of the house.
And because when I ran towards the house, I do
remember seeing the silhouette or something standing there from the
front porch light. It was literally standing right there, you
see the silhouette. And that's when I just went in
and started talk to about that. And then after that,
that's when it came to the window and one of
the things that was doing even scratching on the walls.
That night. It was that was a night that was
basically that was the scariest night that I have because
now I knew what opened the car door, and I
think can open up a car door, and it has
no how can say it would be those animals would
be able to get into anything anywhere at any time
if they wanted to, And now I know the doors,
they could open up a house door if they want to.
If they want to get into somebody, they could, but
they were It didn't come. It literally didn't come after
me to the point where it was literally on my
like behind me, behind me, like about five feet from me.
You know. It wasn't like it just kind of gave
me like a head start to run to get where
I need to whatever. But that thing was massive. It
was huge. It literally scared that. I mean, I was
shaken so bad that it was. I'm still having problems
till this day trying to talk about it, trying to
keep things together as it is of how things go,
because it was just so much stuff has happened and
it's just all bunch. I end up bunching everything together,
and it's just to the point it it literally I
basically should have paid more attention. Like I always tell people,
if you're out in the woods, keep an eye on anything,
keep an eye open, look at all your surroundings, make
sure you know where you're hat and like, like I've
seen proof of them. They they they were They had trees.
There was like six or seven trees that were in
the woods. The bark was ripped up off of it.
It was about maybe between six to sub feet up
off the ground, but it was ripped up so high.
You can see the claw marks. You can see literally
see the teeth marks inside the tree and everything it was.
It was weird. But honestly, I think, like I was
saying to you, as I think they were, tell me,
you know, this is my home. You stay out of
my home and I'll stay out of yours. Because I
would go up in there and just just look around
and walk around and do what I needed to do,
you know, just to kill time, just to be out
in nature or whatever. But basically, tell me stay out
of my home because if not, it's gonna get worse
for you. And once it does, you're not gonna like it,
and that's when it that's when I decided to make
my mind up and just stay away from it, stay
out of their territory, and just stay at mine. And
after that, within the first three or four months that
I did stay away from here, I had no issues
at all. I would stay away from it, but like
if anything would, if I would go anywhere close to
their where they're at, then I would have issues. I'd
have problems. So I just just stayed away from it
and just didn't bother with it and just moved on
and started doing research and looking up things, watching YouTube
channels on people's experience and everything, tried to figure out why, where, when,
and how. And I got most of my answers answered
through that, but some of them I didn't get no
answers for it because there's no answer for it as
of right now. But it just everything there. Really, that
was the one thing that really scared me to a point.
I'm like, it's time for me just to just to move.
I just needed to move, and that that's exactly what
I did. I got out of there. At first, Like
I tried telling a few people. They knew there was
something wrong with me. They knew there was something bothering
me to the point that they asked me and I
tell somebody they would yeah, of course they wouldn't believe me.
But there was more and more people that I ended
up talking to that actually where I live at started
having the same things and seeing the same things I did,
or even having some things that happened to him almost
the same way, but not exactly the same way. I
had a family member that ended up seeing an a
dog man and he was hunting at the time. When
he was hunting, it vanished in front of him, and
when it did that, he didn't know what to think
or what to do. He just left the area. I said, sure,
just kept make sure you watch and keep your eyes
up and make sure nothing's following you. That's what you
should have done. And he's like, I should have done that,
but I didn't. He's like, I just brought out of
that area and didn't getting in that day. I said, well,
I know why, because it just that there was the
point that I'm like, I'm done, I just want to
leave it alone and everything. I was already scared enough
that knowing that there's other things out here that we
don't know about, nobody knows about that happens. All I
can say is just stay out of their territory, leave
them alone, don't bother with it, don't even take pictures.
Just stay away from all of it, because if not,
you're gonna end up with negative, negative interactions with anything
and everything, and it's just not worth it. Honestly to me,
it's never worth it. I just want my story to
be out there and be told because that was some
things that was weird to happen in my life that
I didn't did not know that would happen, and it did,
and it scared me, and it put me to a
point where it was I was holding on to all
this weight and being able to try to get it
talk somebody, get her off of me. It did that
that that did help out good bit, But it was
just yeah, it was just crazy. I didn't know what
to do. But I'm glad I decided to do the
right things and keep my my life on track and
keep my sobriety and keep moving on with whatever I
need to, and like I said, I take my medication
and stuff like that. Just make sure I do as
I'm supposed to and be able to move on with
my life. And do what I need to do to
make it better, because if I would have dwelled on
something like that, I would have tore myself apart and
I would have ran down the wrong direction and probably
wouldn't be here to this day. I know I wouldn't
be I probably wouldn't be here at all. And my kids.
I love my kids. I'll do anything for them. That's
why I'm here, just for them. I'm glad. I'm really
glad about that. But yeah, it's just so much stuff
that has happened. It's it's I'm good and happy that
it's over with and I don't have to deal with
it at all no more, because I don't want to
know anything else. I don't want any parts of it.
I just want to be left alone. And I think
from my bloodline and everything in my everything that has
happened to me, I think that has some type of
I don't think that has a lot to do with it,
but I think it has something to do with it.
Because knowing that, I'd love to be out if it's
nice out, I'd love to be outside all day long.
I don't care what time it is. I would I'd
stay out all night if I want to, but I
won't anymore. But it's just h Yeah, I'm trying to
do the best, and I'm doing good now and I'm
keeping it the way it is, and I'm tired of
having to hold on to a weight that I needed
to get off my shoulders and it needed to be gone.
It's just I get so excited just trying to tell
the story and get everything out there that I can
that it all bundles up and it's just crazy and
then that gets scared all over again just by telling it.
It's just it's weird. Everybody's told me they'd seen goosebumps
coming up on my arms and everything. It's weird. They're
like in the change my eyes, fear for being normal,
to be in fear, they would see that, and it's
just weird.
Speaker 2: It's not weird at all when you consider what you've
been through.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, I call it weird because no one
has ever seen me like that at all period. Yeah,
And I'm just type that. I'm a type of person
I don't care about what happened to what goes on.
But that's one thing that I did care about because
that was something that I did not know about that
literally scared me.
Speaker 2: And understandably so after having such a frightening night the
way you did due to that group of dog men.
Do you think the original Eric will ever come back
or do you think you're forever changed?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm never going to come back to the way
I used to be. I'm a totally different person. It's yeah,
it's I'm not the same. I probably would never be
the same. Even my ex wife said, I've changed. I'm
not the same person I used to be.
Speaker 2: One of the things we worked out in that first
conversation was why it or they opened up your car
door but then left it open, and why they also
took your lighter. How much of a help was it
for you when you finally understood why they did those things.
Speaker 1: Do you after somebody telling me that they do it
to mess with me? Yeah? I think they want my reaction.
They wanted to know. They wanted to have a lot
of fun with me, is what they wanted. They wanted
to do what they wanted to do, and once they
got bored, then they go after their prey. Find of
like anybody, any animal that plays with their prey up
end up killing them or you know, doing what they
need to do to take whatever they need for themselves.
They're opportunists. They have the opportunity, they'll take it.
Speaker 2: It really is a shame they gets such a kick
out of doing things like that. It really is.
Speaker 1: Well, us humans, we have a point of where we
play pranks and stuff on our on our friends and family,
and well they do it to us. And that's what
I was able to learn and understand was what our
was told.
Speaker 2: Were you renting that property or did you have a
mortgage on it?
Speaker 1: It was rented property.
Speaker 2: It was rented. I see, Well, after you moved out
of the property after that last experience, did you ever
tell your lamb lord anything about why you're moving or
did you keep that to yourself?
Speaker 1: Put this way, landlord is she's a unique Him and
her are unique people. So I just left it at
that and we just we left and it was just like,
you guys, take care of that. I'm just gonna we're leaving.
We're not staying. We lived there for a long enough time.
But that explains why there was people that kept moving
in and out there over so many years of living there,
because that's what people were told at the time. People
would stay a year or two maybe three years and
they'd leave. And I think this is why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just might be right about that. Do you
think all of your dog mean experiences are related somehow
to that first experience when you saw that figure in
the road.
Speaker 1: Yes, I am one hundred percent. Yeah, I think that's
what when it all started. Honestly, because I was thinking
about that last night. I think that's when it literally started.
Because I wasn't going to make a chance to move
out of the way or whatever. I was literally going
to hit it, you know, because I thought it was
a tree branch. And I care less about a car.
I care about my life and my friends in life.
I thought I don't care about the car. No, a
car could be fixed.
Speaker 2: Well that's good you felt that way after you had
that experience when you're working on your car outside. You
still went outside after that on a regular basis. But
did you change anything how you did things? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did, Like I would, I go out during the day, dude,
what I needed to do, get that done. But we're
when it started getting to be dusk and starting to
get dark, that's when I didn't matter what I was doing.
I stopped doing what I was doing, packed everything up,
and went in the house and just stayed in the house.
Speaker 2: Can't say I blame you at all. How remote was
that property.
Speaker 1: It was on. It was about maybe two miles out
of town where we lived at and the neighbors lived close,
but but not real close, but close enough, but like
they were walking distance basically. But I noticed they didn't
ever they never, ever, ever, ever ever let their dogs
out at night at all. They always brought them in
the house. I always thought that was weird because they
were hunting dogs. They were always outside, but they always
end up bringing them in the house at night.
Speaker 2: Huh. Well, good people, nonetheless, But it sounds like they
might have known something because not me. May people bring
their hunting dogs inside, as you will know, Yeah, yeah,
they must have known. Seeing a sasquatch for the first
time the way you did is an awfully profound experience,
that's a given. But most people wouldn't have taken their
eyes off the squatch. Did you want an attempt to
see what it was looking at as it was looking
around or did you keep your eyes locked on it?
Speaker 1: When I've seen it, I was looking at it for
about ten to fifteen minutes because it was it didn't
want to move from where it was at, because you
could tell it was just staring off in a way
and wouldn't look at me at all. It looked around
its surroundings and you'd see it. You can see it
move his head, whatever it was. It was just trying
to get cover or just keeping an eye on what's
what it was seeing and wherever it was. I just
finished up what I was doing and I just I
just kept my mouth shut, went in and went to bed.
Well not the bet. I just went to my bedroom,
just sat there and just you know, kept my mind.
That is because it was on a weekend and I
wasn't good. I didn't want anything at the root of
my weekend that weekend. But yeah, I just I just
stayed to myself and just kept thinking, what is it?
What's going on? You know, if something like this is
afraid of something else, or is it watching what else
is going on and it's ignoring me, that means there's
something else that's a bigger threat to them than me.
And if it's not worrying about me, so whatever the
threat is, I don't need to be around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when a sasquatch seems to be concerned about what's
around it. That's a good time to really put your
intentas up and keep your head on the swivel as well.
I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it just because you can see it,
Like the trails are coming through there, they're wider than
a deer trail. I mean they're wider. So wherever's walking
through there, there's they're walking from several different ways for
different places, and it cuts right through where I was
living at. It was literally cutting through the whole but
basically the whole tree line of the back where we
have the back of the the house is boundaries are
cut right into the top quarter of it, cut through
there and go down through and up and around. It
was just weird and just walking on those trails. They
kind of felt weird though too, like you could tell
if something was watching you because it was really quiet.
You would not hear nothing, not and no animal, no nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, if they don't have a TV, you were on TV.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I guess we're there entertainment for time being until
you get tired of us.
Speaker 2: Seems like that's pretty much how it is sometimes. Yeah,
how sure are you that your experiences with those dog
men weren't tied somehow to the demon that you told
us about.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I have no idea it could be. It most
definitely could be. I don't know, but uh, like with
stuff like that has happened because I had dealt with
spiritual stuff growing up. I had like hauntings and stuff
growing up dealing with that, and I'm to the point
I can ignore it to a very good extent where
don't bother me, But when certain things start happening, that's
when i'd rather get out and about. And now bringing
that up, that can actually probably be the reason why. Yeah,
I've never and you know what, somebody else made a
comment on one because I made a comment on somebody's
page about me having to deal with this and stuff
and he said, you know, their demons or it could
be caused by demons or something like that. But now, yeah,
I think you could be. Most definitely could be, because
I know what happened was the place I was living
at years and years and years ago, there was It's
just weird. I didn't understand why anybody would have a
gargoyle sitting in somebody's hot water heater. I'm like, what's
what's this thing in here? But when I moved that.
That's when everything started changing, and I wish I would
never have done.
Speaker 2: That really does make you wonder what happened in the
house before you moved in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, talk to a few people that ended up
living there before I didn't, and then a few that
lived there after I did, had the same issues with
like me. But the ones before me told me about
them dealing with a wigi board at one point, and
I told I didn't believe that. I don't. I don't.
I don't care too much for wigi board or anything
like that, but I hear so much things about them,
and if they are what they are, I don't. I
still don't want nothing to deal with them.
Speaker 2: Smart man, Nothing good comes from playing with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just because everything nowadays it's always good versus evil,
and there there's no way of getting around it or
about it other than believing in your Lord and savior.
Speaker 2: That's about it, good man, that's right.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 2: You know that the night you saw that pack, you'd
gone outside to smoke because he didn't smoke in the
house back then. Do you smoke inside every time now
or do you still go outside to smoke? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, what I would do is i'd smoke before.
I'd go ahead and smoke before I would go before
it get too dark. Then I go in the house,
children relax, and I'll just wait it out and until
next morning. Then I'd smoke a cigarette. I just would
not go outside at all. I wouldn't even smoke in
the house at all, because I'd rather be respectful of
other people's wishes in there, of what they want. And
you know, in life, everybody needs to give respect to
earn respect, and that's the way it should be. But
a lot of people don't do that. And I feel
I feel like every way needs to love one another anyways,
because everything's already going down to toilet, is you look around,
nothing's really good going out of anything anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, things have definitely taken a turn for the worst.
There's no denying that. Well, what's about time for us
to get out, if you're eric, But before we do,
do you have any clothes and comments you want to
put out there for us?
Speaker 1: All I could say is, if anybody's ever in the woods,
just keep your eyes open, what you're doing, your surroundings.
If it gets quiet, still keep an eye out and
get out of that back out of there as quick
as you can because you're in somebody else's territory where
basically their home, so you wouldn't want anybody in your home.
So I'd say just leave what's there alone and just
walk out there, because you can always find another place
to go if you need to hunt or whatever. But
it's not worth dealing with what I had to deal
with because it would drive you insane. Literally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is a shame you had to deal
with half of what you did. But I'm glad it
seems to be in your rear view now, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1: I'm just glad I've been able to sleep good for
one whole night in the past nine years. Basically I
was able to sleep good to get all this off
my shoulders felt so good.
Speaker 2: Well that's music to my ears.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just hope it gets better and better from here.
I really do. But having said that, thanks again so
much for coming on to share those experiences with us.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's just what I'm just wanting to get
that out there because honestly, I didn't want to see
or hear anything of somebody being which of it just
hasn't already happened, you know, in other places of people
being attacked by dog man or what I ever be
in the wrong area, wrong place at the wrong time,
and yeah, I just don't want to There's too much
of that as of right now, you know, happening, and
I know some people don't want to talk about it
or speak about it, but it does help to get
get it out and get the weight off your shoulders
and talk to somebody that even to VIC or anybody
that would listen to you. I was lucky enough that
I was able to have a certain family members to
be able to listen to me and understand and believe
what I was saying. And yeah, my, if it wasn't
for my uncle believe in me, which I'm I'm glad.
I'm glad he was there because honestly, it just it
was that was a relief because I told several people
about what happened and everything they ask so I gave
them the truth because I'm not going to lie to anybody.
If you want to know, I'll tell you. I'm not
going to lie to you. But if you want me
to lie to you, I'll lie to you. But that
ain't my that's not my way of dealing with things.
I'd rather be truthful because I'm tired of living my
old life to where you have to hide and lie
about just to no, it's better off just to tell
the truth and keep everything on straight and narrow and
move on with your life. If you lie and you
I'm not going to tell the truth, then basically you're
wasting your time. You're gonna get caught no matter what.
Tell the truth. There's no way of getting caught. It's
the truth. And that's what I was able to do.
And that's when my when my uncle is like, yeah,
he's telling the truth. Even seeing the fear in my
eyes and telling them this story, he's like he's like,
I can see how shaken up you get and how
I would do things talking about this situation. And he's like,
he's like, I feel bad for you. And to him,
I said, I'm I told him myself. It's kind of
a learning experience. Not only that, it's kind of taught
me that it's best mind your own business and try
to do what you need to do for yourself. And
if you have any issues and you're out there and
things like that happen, just back out and walk away
and try to find another way, because it's not worth
it's not worth it, it's really.
Speaker 2: Not eric for more reasons than one. I'm so glad
you had your uncle to help you out too. That's
really good advice. That sounds like he helped you tremendously.
But having said that, thanks again so much for your time,
and have a great nights.
Speaker 1: English