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Dogmanencounters dot com forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Eric. Eric.

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I'm proud to be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great halfn you. Eric. Please give us a

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brief bio in yourself.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a person it's willing to help anybody that

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would need help. It doesn't matter who it is. I

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just don't give up on anything. If I'm wanting to

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learn something, I just keep striving for more. I'm just

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a laid back person, just trying to get through life

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the way I can, and I just want to have

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a nice, peaceful way through life.

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Speaker 2: Well that's not too much to ask. It's no secret

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that most people never have a single dog me An encounter. You,

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on the other hand, have had multiple encounters. Have you

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ever had any other paranormal experiences though, And if so,

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what do you think it is about you that seems

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to draw these things to you.

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Speaker 1: I I do have some other weird stuff that would happen,

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Like I did live in a house that was haunted

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by a demon, and that was one thing that really

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scared me. You know, that's something that I don't ever

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want anybody to go through, because when you're sitting there

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watching TV or just relaxing and all of a sudden,

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your doors, all your doors open and slam and everything

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in your porch like goes on and off constantly, and

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it's just like, what is going on? But then when

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I was taking a shower, that was the last time

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I seen what I seen, and I got out. I

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didn't care. I got out of the house, just threw

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pair of pants on, left. That was just that was

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too much for me. I was taking the shower and

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all of a sudden, from the light in the bathroom

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where the light was shining down, shining down on me,

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all of a sudden, this big mass of a big

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black shadow comes up and engulfs my shadow, like you

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couldn't see nothing when I've seen that. That's when I

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ended up right now, that house. That was kind of funny,

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just seeing somebody just throw a pair of pants on

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and just booking it out of the house and I

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never back.

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Speaker 2: I don't blame you. I'm sure that wasn't funny. For

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you though, And just to be honest, I probably would

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have run out of the house snaky if something like

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that happened to me. Only cow.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just didn't really get in the cops on me.

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That's why I put them.

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Speaker 2: On well better the cops and the demon on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had, like, like I said, like I've told people,

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I just found out recently that my family told me

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that we have Native American in our bloodline. And I thought, well,

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could some of this be like being close to like nature,

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like with certain things like that I'd like used to

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love to do and and everything like go out in woods,

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do what I need to do, and like whatever. Yeah,

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it kind of puts a little bit of a perspective

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on some things right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a just might. When it comes

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to your encounters with paranormal beings like the demon that

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you said you encountered in the shower, and you said

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when you would watch TV to have other experiences. When

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it comes to those experiences and your dog meeting encounters,

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do you think it's more to do with your Native

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American heritage or at any time in your life have

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you ever played with the Wiji board?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, that's one

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thing I don't believe it in that. Not only that

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I don't care to get into that. That's just something

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I don't want nothing to do with. I've heard too

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much stories about them, and I'm just like whatever, I'd

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rather stay away from it. The anything I could do.

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Speaker 2: That's always a good policy. I'm glad you have it.

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When we spoke for the first time about your encounters,

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especially that encounter with that dog me impact that you had,

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it sounded to me like you're ready to have a

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come apart. How are you now?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm doing better now. I'm not dealing with a

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bunch of stuff. And I was able to be able

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to get a good night's sleep for once in the

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longest time, and having to deal with what I dealt

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with and everything, it was just having that weight off

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my shoulders was something that was able to have me

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be able to relax and be able to fall asleep.

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And yeah, I get emotional over it because it's been

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first time in about nine years.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but everything that has happened was happening within

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those nine years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really long time.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever hear of a how a a wolf laughs?

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Speaker 2: No, I haven't.

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Speaker 1: This is one thing that popped in my mind. I

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was reading on YouTube on not just reading but listening,

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and then going through other channels and stuff about how

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laugh and the way the recording was was the same

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way as what I heard in those woods at night

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when I would be sleeping in bed, I would hear that.

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you up. It was so loud it literally wake you up.

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It was weird and you're kind of wondering what it

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was and stuff like that. That's one thing I forgot

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that I wanted to say, And that's one thing that

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popped in my mind because that there hearing that, and

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not only that, hearing them so close enough to where

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they not not I mean when they really, you know,

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let it all out. I mean it was so close

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that the dogs that were with me and one was

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blind with followed, tried to follow me the whole way down.

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I had to get them in the house and everything

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and keep it from being outside because it was that

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loud and it was that close, and it had to

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be at least maybe about thirty yards, not very far. Away.

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I mean it was loud, it was, and it was

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so powerful though too. It was just I don't want

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to experience that. That's something that that there would scare

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anybody just hearing something like that not knowing what it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it would. Yeah, it's hard to get a

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good night's sleep after something like that, and without telling

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us any details from your encounters yet, did that sound

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that you heard happened before or after your dog mean encounters.

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Speaker 1: That actually happened. That's when it first started. When I

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heard that. That's one thing I forgot to bring up.

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But yeah, that there, It was the first thing that started.

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That's why I brought it up. Now, that was the

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first thing that started. Was that?

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Speaker 2: So that was the prelude to all this I see? Okay, Well, yeah,

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by all means, thanks for telling me. After having that

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encounter with that pack of dog man. It's hard enough

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to deal with the fact that it didn't given time

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you might bump into just one dog man. How do

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you deal with the knowledge though, that it didn't, given

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time you might encounter that pack of them again.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to I'm not living in

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that area no more. I just I do have a

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strong urge to go back, but I'm not stepping foot

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anywhere on that property at all. I'm not going back.

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There's no way, and I don't advise anybody else to

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do that either.

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Speaker 2: How long has it been since you had your last encounter, Eric?

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Speaker 1: About four years ago?

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Speaker 2: Four years?

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Speaker 1: I see, like I was saying that, right, There was

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a last part of after other thing that was the

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end of everything. That's when I just basically got up

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and just I got my stuff and I just left

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and did not go back. That's when I had enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, after that last encounter. Can't blame you at all.

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I think a lot of people would have done that.

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All right, Eric, please tell us about your encounters. Now,

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give us every last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I remember this one time we were coming from

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I was taking my friend to a to his girlfriends

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who were going down there either were having a couple

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of drinks and stuff, and I was being a designated

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driver bringing them back because I really don't drink. I

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gave up up on alcohol. I got sober, got away

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from drugs and all that. And when I was bringing

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him back from all of that fun that they were having,

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it was okay. But I was driving on my way

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back home with him and we were coming around this bend.

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And we were coming around the bend, all of a sudden,

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I seen something something like like laying kind of like

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laying up a little bit, but on top of the

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where the road is. I thought it was like a

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tree branch or something, you know, broke and fell and

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landed there. So what I did is I'm like hold on.

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I threw my arm across, you know, to hold him

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back and whatever. And because I said, I thought we

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were going to hit this tree line and I was

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gonna veer out away or anything and lose control. But

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I just just gonna hit it. And the weirdest part

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was nothing. There was no impact. There was no bangs,

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no clangs, know, nothing. It was weird end up when

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when after that happened, I went down about maybe about

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one hundred and fifty feet, turned around, come back. When

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I was came back, there was nothing, no tree branch.

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you kind of look like a tree branch. But how

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would a tree branch move? Ain't gonna move, So it's like,

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what is going on here? So I didn't put anything together,

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which I was thinking later on, maybe it was something

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that that I don't know could move its hand out

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arm out of the way or whatever hand or whatever

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moved it out away from being hit because dud, whatever

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it was, was coming up out of a colvert. It

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came down out of the woods and it was in

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the culvert coming up out. But it was just everything

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that I had to due to try not to let anything,

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you know, try to scare me. So I just put

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it in the back of my mind, got in the

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car and I left, brought him home, and then a

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couple of about a year or two down the road

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ended up going through a divorce and I was separated.

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I was living with a friend of mine and this

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is right close to where that one when I can

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say what I thought was going to be an accident,

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but it wasn't. It was weird. But anyways, when I

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ended up living with him at that time and helping

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him out and everything, you know, trying to you know,

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just being a friend, you know, the one way I

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could do what's right. Just he helped me out with

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the place to stay, to be able to get away

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from the situation I was in. But while I was

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living there, I would do work for him around the house. No,

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you can do work on his cars and stuff. I

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love working on cars. But one time I was actually

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under the car working on it, and I kept getting

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this feeling of man, it's just something's weird, something strange,

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like I should, you know, basically pull myself up underneath

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his vehicle because I have a feeling like something would grab

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a hold of me and yank me out from underneath there.

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into the back of my mind and all that and

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trying not to let it eat at me either let

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me drive me nuts or whatever, because I always hold

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onto things and bottle things up and I've learned not

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to do that. But I'm just having that feeling was.

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something telling me that something is close around hide or

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and I went into the house. But though when I

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I just kept having these rocks and stuff that was

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of a of a garage type thing, and it just

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all you hear is ting keep doing it like something

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was trying to get my attention. Something was definitely trying

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to get my attention. I just ignored it. Like I said,

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I packed my stuff up, went in the house. And

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then the second time I seen him was when I

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was outside. I was actually on the phone at that time,

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and I ended up getting a picture and I was

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trying to look at it. Didn't understand it or nothing.

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I was just kept figuring out what is going on?

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Well here, I took a picture and it was like

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all fuzzy at that time, I couldn't see what it was,

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but by naked eye I could see what it was,

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and it was it was what it was. It was

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literally a big foot looking up towards the top of

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the ridge where where it was that kind of look

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at the bottom and then whatever was up the top.

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It was keeping its eyes and visual up on there.

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And it was so weird that I did not know anything.

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It was just like it kept just didn't care about

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me at all. It just kept its eyes on what

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was in front of it, and it was any If

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anything would happen, it would have done what it would

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have done. But that was the second time that I've

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seen two different things at one time that that was weird.

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But just to have a sighting of two different things,

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not just the sighting, but a feeling of two different things,

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but one not bothering me and one not. The one

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with the big foot didn't really bother me. It just

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basically just it didn't. It just just didn't bother He

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didn't want it, didn't scare me, didn't do anything. It

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just I didn't know what was going on. It was

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just kept looking up, looking everywhere. It just would not

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just sit there and look at me at all. It

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just completely ignored me. But though it was hiding behind

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a big pile of logs and stuff, for fire and everything.

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It was hidden right behind that. And when it was

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hidden behind there, that's when I seen it and everything.

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It's just out of place. So I let that go

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and just went on with my business, did what I

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needed to do, got everything gathered up, everything cleaned up,

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out of the yard, got what I needed done, and

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then called everything a day and just went in relaxed

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and calmed down and all that. And here's another weird

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thing that would happen, especially at night where my wall

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was a by the by the in the house where

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the wall was. The one time, whenever I was laying

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down in bed that evening, after cleaning up everything and

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all that, on the other side of the wall, I

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would hear scratching, like up against the wall, you'd be

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scratching or tapping stuff like that. But I would always

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leave my window open in the summertime, so it would

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always be open. But that my wall right there would

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always be something messing with the wall. I just I always,

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like I said, I never paid attention. I never mind it.

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I just let the go, didn't bother with it. And

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then the one time that I was actually up and

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underneath that truck again trying to fix it, get it

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put together and everything like that. I got that same

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feeling again, and I'm just like, all right, I just

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had enough because that's when all the things like the

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rocks being thrown, all the things happening. I just I

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left my tooles, lay, got up and went in the house.

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I didn't even bother picking him up, didn't bather putting

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them away. I just left. I just got a little

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bit scared there at that time because it was the

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same thing that kept happening over again, and I just

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go out and walked away. And then I remember the

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third time this this is this is one that really

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kind of this this kind of scared me really good.

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When I would smoke, I smoked cigarettes, so I would

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go outside and smoke. I would never smoking the house

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out of respect. That that was anything that I told him,

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and they even told me, and I agreed, and I

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told him I would do that no matter what. I

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would never smoke in the house. So I would. It

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was about maybe about right around first to night. I

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was getting ready for bed. I went out to smoke

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my last cigarette. I'm sitting there smoking my cigarette and

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I had to go to the bathroom. I had to pee.

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It and I'm just like, I'm not going to go

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in the house and I have to put a cigarette out,

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go in the house, and then take a pee and

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then walk back out. We're out in the middle of nowhere,

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basically almost something, just like, I'll just go right out here.

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So I just stood there, did what I needed to do,

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smoking my cigarette. And what happened was you know how

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dogs sneeze or whatever when they get cigarette smoking their nose,

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they'll sneeze. Well, that happened, but it was ten times

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I'd even say twenty times louder than that. And when

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that happened, I jumped back. I didn't get a look

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at nothing, although than he had a full sized conversion

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band at that time. And where the tail light was,

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you see a hand. It looked like a ractoon's hand.

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It came around and it literally covered that whole tail light.

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I mean it was The hand was huge, I mean

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it covered it. You couldnot see nothing of the tail

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light at all period. It basically the size of the

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tail light would have been maybe a quarter of an

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inch smaller than it's palm. And it's hand was huge.

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I mean it was big. As soon as I've seen

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that hand I just flicked a cigarette and I didn't

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take a chance. I just I got in that house.

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I did not want to see what it was. I

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did not want anything to deal with it or nothing.

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I just went in the house, locked the door, went

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to the bedroom shut, my window got it locked and everything.

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But eventually later on that night, if you boy waving

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up by that like something being broken, which was like

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a guess a tree branch, because there was one that

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was broken off of the Appera tree and it was

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on the ground. It was literally snapped and twisted off

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the tree and it was just laying there. I was

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just kept thinking them, something that has to be very

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very powerful enough to snap this. I'm like, either a

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bigfoot or there might be something else. I don't know.

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It could be bigfoot, is what I was thinking. Oh,

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I left that go, which I should never let things go.

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I should do a little bit more research. But at

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that time, I just I didn't. I just didn't care.

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I just didn't. I just I was worried about one

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thing and one thing only, which was me at that time,

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and then just haven't like that tree branch green broken,

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that's just that is just that there has to have

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something that is very, very powerful, and that's something I

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thought that I just don't want to walk into or

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be around. And then I had my uh, which would

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be but my actually it would be my fourth, fourth,

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fifth sighting of them. I did have one that I

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did see at one point, but I couldn't tell what

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it was. It was too far off, and I just

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didn't pay attention to anything until I've seen a video

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of one because I definitely forgot to tell you this

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where I've seen a video of one standing behind the

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tree looking around it and it's the same thing I seen,

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and it was weird. It was just it just scared me.

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And it's just like, what is that I don't always

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stay weird all the time. I don't know why, but anyways,

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it scared me, and it just I just didn't bother

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going up any further than where I was. I didn't.

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I wish I could have got a better look at

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it at that time, because if I did, I would

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be able to understand what was going on or maybe not,

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I don't know. That was the one thing that I

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did see. And then this fifth one, now, this is

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the one that really put everything over the top. This

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is when all the stuff got a little bit out

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of hand, and I was the day before it all

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gone out hand. I had an old car that I

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was working on, and like I said, I love working

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on cars and everything. I was working on this car

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trying to get everything put together and get it up running.

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And everything was able to get it running, but it

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needed to have brakes. Well, I was always underneath there

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trying to fix everything. But later on that night, it

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was in the evening time, I ended up. I know

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for a fact, I put my tools in the car

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and I shut the door on the car. When I

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shut the door in the car, I know for one

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hundred percent the fact that it was closed because I

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never leave any doors opened because I don't want anything wet.

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I don't need anything starting to rust on the inside,

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or tools or anything. But I had the door closed.

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But the following morning, I wake up, I go outside

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to go out and smoke a cigarette. Well, the car

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door is hanging wide out open. Yeah, I mean it

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was wide open. Whatever. It was literally opened that door

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and had it open. It was literally wide open. And

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I kept thinking of myself, I did I shut that

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I shut that door, said, I know, I did, I

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know I shut the door because I remember putting the

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tools in there and shutting the door. It shouldn't have

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been open. So things started feeling weird at that time

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because I kind of felt like, you know, what's going on?

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You know, like, how can I say it? It felt

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really really uncomfortable. It felt like being watched or being

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under a microscope basically, because I could feel the kind

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of like the pressure of how you have somebody just

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staring at you. But like I said, I always just

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ignored things and just went on with my business. But

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I went over to the porch to find my lighter

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and everything. After I went in and told what happened,

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come out to get my lighter to sprikles cigarette. My

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lighter was gone. Yeah, I always left it out on

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the porch railings as I would go out and sprinkles cigarettes.

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It was right there on the porch railing. It was missing.

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It was gone. I'm like, what the well. I ended

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up going in the house, looked trying to find a

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spare lighter, couldn't find one, and kept looking, and my

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one buddy ended up having to leave from you had

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to go I think grocery shore up or you had

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to go. I don't know exactly if it was doctors

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or groceries, I'm not sure, but he ended up leaving,

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and when he left, I went back outside to see

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if I find a spare lighter in a vehicle, mine

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or or even into my old car. Well, I didn't

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make it that far. I walk out the door, go

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walk down off the rim. There's a lighter sitting right

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there on the ground, literally straight like it was placed

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right there. It was literally sat down right there to

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like whatever it was. When something buddy to see where

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it sat at where it was sitting at, and it

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was and it wasn't even I'd say about twenty minutes

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took me just basically go find what I needed and

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get what I needed done. So wherever did it had

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a good amount of time to put it down there.

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There was nobody else there at the house other than me,

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so it couldn't have been anybody else seeing that laying there.

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It's just like what what everything started? Just scared of

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me at the point, like uh uh, no way, wherever

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this is doing is I don't know if it's a

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ghost or what it is or whatever it this. I

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want this to stop. This is getting to be irritating.

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This is scared of me. Is just to the point

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where I'm like, I might be left alone, leave me alone.

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Well that didn't happen, because this last this is the

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last thing that actually happened, and this really got me scared.

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And this is what's this was stupid of me. What

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I've done, that could have it could have got worse.

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I shouldn't have done what I've done. But I'm glad

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I stopped doing what I was doing because when I

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was walking out the house and getting up underneath the

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vehicle getting ready to work on it, the same thing happened.

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Rocks being thrown. That's weird. It just kept happening again.

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So I'm like, you know what, I'm so tired of this.

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I got up from underneath the vehicle again. Beaupt putting

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on the exhaust on his this one. I think it

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was his his band. It was it was his band.

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I do remember that. Because I got out from underneath,

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the walked up around where they would have a like

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a it would be a kind of like it used

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to be a swimming pool sitting there. So basically you

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go up around the swimming pool and you go up

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this grade. And when I started walking up towards it.

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I only had the flashlight at my phone. That light on,

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that's the only one. It wasn't bright enough to get

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what I needed to see. Well, when I got around there,

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I was walking up in there, I seen six glowing eyes.

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Literally the eye shine was green and it was they

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were looking at me and everything. So I'm like, well, shoot,

478
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,720
what's this? You know, what should I do? You know?

479
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,920
I turned around, went in the house, got somebody to

480
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,960
come out with me to verify what I was going on.

481
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,079
When he's seen the same thing as I was, I

482
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:59,119
started walking up towards the tree line. I got bout

483
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,480
maybe that's about eight nine feet from the tree line.

484
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:07,119
All of a sudden, the one that was in the

485
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,279
middle stood straight up. I mean in a matter of

486
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:14,119
a second. I mean it stood straight up. That literally

487
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:20,359
scared me. And when he stood straight up, I'm just

488
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,119
looking at it. I mean it was massive, it was huge.

489
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,400
I got to turn around see if my buddy's behind me.

490
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:30,880
He's already gone, he's already to the house. He left

491
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,440
me there. I'm like, well, what's going on? Where do

492
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:36,640
you go? I just turned around took off too. There's

493
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,279
anything I could do. I took off, ran back to

494
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:43,880
the house and I was able to get to the

495
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,200
front door of the house if you got in, And

496
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,000
I asked him, do you know what that would have been?

497
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,400
What that is whatever? He's like, I have no idea

498
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440
what that is. And he's like, I don't want to

499
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:56,599
know what it is. He's like, but that's why I

500
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,680
don't go out at night. I said, Wow, now I'm

501
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680
not going out at night period. I'm not going into

502
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,599
those woods either. So we were talking and everything, and

503
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,640
while we were talking trying to figure out where it was,

504
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:14,480
I was getting to the point I'm like, you know what,

505
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,119
I just want to relax. I just want to go

506
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,519
home and go back, go to bed and be able

507
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:23,559
to get some sleep. So I went back, got in bed,

508
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,480
was getting ready to go into bed, go to bed.

509
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,400
I walked through the door. When I walked through the door,

510
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,880
I see the tallest one was literally standing at my

511
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,160
window seeing me walk through the door and was looking

512
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,079
straight at me. And when it seen me, it kind

513
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:45,200
of duck down, stared at me for about maybe a

514
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,160
second or two. It didn't move its head or nothing.

515
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,680
It moved its whole body and took off. But when

516
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,039
it turned its whole body. I could see the side

517
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,640
of the face, I could see the ears, I can

518
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:05,319
see the the the it's nose, it's muzzle, everything, I mean,

519
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:12,159
it was that there was. Man, I'm getting goosebumps over it,

520
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,280
but that was there is when I'm like I had enough.

521
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,440
I literally dropped to the floor, shut the lights off,

522
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:23,880
dropped to the floor, and I was down. I laid

523
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,679
there for about maybe five ten minutes. I didn't want

524
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,159
whatever it was, I didn't want it to see me,

525
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,000
didn't want it to just kind of like wondering, how

526
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,679
did how did it know what room I was in?

527
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:40,079
What what was my room or whatever? How did it know? Well, now,

528
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,519
don't it found out and nose? Like they said, they

529
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,159
they could find out anything if they want to. They're

530
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:55,400
very intelligent animals. And when it literally did all that

531
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,679
and everything, I had my window cracked open that night

532
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:05,119
because it ended up getting hot in the house and everything.

533
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:09,079
But it ended up it did come back. So I

534
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,760
would hear it. You could hear it breathe, you can

535
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,639
hear it walk, you can hear it coming closer to

536
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,480
the house. And when it did, it stopped there at

537
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:20,639
the corner of the house, and that's where it stopped.

538
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,800
It would not come any closer because we had a

539
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,039
light that would shine off into the into the the driveway,

540
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,119
and it would not come into that. But when it

541
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:35,639
was like I was, like I was saying, whenever it

542
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,760
was the pack of them. Right that I forgot to

543
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,199
bring up was when I walking When I was walking

544
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,440
up towards it, there was off to the right and

545
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,679
off to the left. You could hear wherever it was

546
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,599
going down and around us to the house, down around

547
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:56,119
the house. When it was going down around the house,

548
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,519
you couldn't see nothing, but you can hear it. You

549
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,400
can hear them going through the brush. You can hear them,

550
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,679
you know, as much as you could. But then after

551
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,280
that you wouldn't hear nothing. It was just quiet. But

552
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,719
there was one that was down nearby side of the garage,

553
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,400
and one was on the other side of the house.

554
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,119
And because when I ran towards the house, I do

555
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,079
remember seeing the silhouette or something standing there from the

556
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:27,079
front porch light. It was literally standing right there, you

557
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:31,320
see the silhouette. And that's when I just went in

558
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,199
and started talk to about that. And then after that,

559
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,760
that's when it came to the window and one of

560
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,079
the things that was doing even scratching on the walls.

561
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,679
That night. It was that was a night that was

562
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,480
basically that was the scariest night that I have because

563
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,440
now I knew what opened the car door, and I

564
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,360
think can open up a car door, and it has

565
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:01,280
no how can say it would be those animals would

566
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920
be able to get into anything anywhere at any time

567
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:09,280
if they wanted to, And now I know the doors,

568
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,280
they could open up a house door if they want to.

569
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,239
If they want to get into somebody, they could, but

570
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:23,360
they were It didn't come. It literally didn't come after

571
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,360
me to the point where it was literally on my

572
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,800
like behind me, behind me, like about five feet from me.

573
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,639
You know. It wasn't like it just kind of gave

574
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:37,960
me like a head start to run to get where

575
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,079
I need to whatever. But that thing was massive. It

576
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:46,920
was huge. It literally scared that. I mean, I was

577
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:54,239
shaken so bad that it was. I'm still having problems

578
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,480
till this day trying to talk about it, trying to

579
00:37:56,559 --> 00:38:00,920
keep things together as it is of how things go,

580
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,280
because it was just so much stuff has happened and

581
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,000
it's just all bunch. I end up bunching everything together,

582
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:14,039
and it's just to the point it it literally I

583
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:19,039
basically should have paid more attention. Like I always tell people,

584
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,480
if you're out in the woods, keep an eye on anything,

585
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,719
keep an eye open, look at all your surroundings, make

586
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,639
sure you know where you're hat and like, like I've

587
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:35,039
seen proof of them. They they they were They had trees.

588
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,039
There was like six or seven trees that were in

589
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,840
the woods. The bark was ripped up off of it.

590
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,800
It was about maybe between six to sub feet up

591
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,599
off the ground, but it was ripped up so high.

592
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:49,159
You can see the claw marks. You can see literally

593
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:53,760
see the teeth marks inside the tree and everything it was.

594
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,960
It was weird. But honestly, I think, like I was

595
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,199
saying to you, as I think they were, tell me,

596
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,840
you know, this is my home. You stay out of

597
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,599
my home and I'll stay out of yours. Because I

598
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,800
would go up in there and just just look around

599
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,840
and walk around and do what I needed to do,

600
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:15,079
you know, just to kill time, just to be out

601
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:18,840
in nature or whatever. But basically, tell me stay out

602
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,039
of my home because if not, it's gonna get worse

603
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:26,119
for you. And once it does, you're not gonna like it,

604
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:32,039
and that's when it that's when I decided to make

605
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:34,320
my mind up and just stay away from it, stay

606
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,559
out of their territory, and just stay at mine. And

607
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:43,280
after that, within the first three or four months that

608
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,599
I did stay away from here, I had no issues

609
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,039
at all. I would stay away from it, but like

610
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,000
if anything would, if I would go anywhere close to

611
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:58,440
their where they're at, then I would have issues. I'd

612
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,840
have problems. So I just just stayed away from it

613
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,719
and just didn't bother with it and just moved on

614
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,760
and started doing research and looking up things, watching YouTube

615
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:17,119
channels on people's experience and everything, tried to figure out why, where, when,

616
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,639
and how. And I got most of my answers answered

617
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:25,360
through that, but some of them I didn't get no

618
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,880
answers for it because there's no answer for it as

619
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:35,079
of right now. But it just everything there. Really, that

620
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,760
was the one thing that really scared me to a point.

621
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,159
I'm like, it's time for me just to just to move.

622
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,760
I just needed to move, and that that's exactly what

623
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,800
I did. I got out of there. At first, Like

624
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:56,079
I tried telling a few people. They knew there was

625
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:59,199
something wrong with me. They knew there was something bothering

626
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,880
me to the point that they asked me and I

627
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,039
tell somebody they would yeah, of course they wouldn't believe me.

628
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,199
But there was more and more people that I ended

629
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,960
up talking to that actually where I live at started

630
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:18,679
having the same things and seeing the same things I did,

631
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,159
or even having some things that happened to him almost

632
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:24,599
the same way, but not exactly the same way. I

633
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:26,519
had a family member that ended up seeing an a

634
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,199
dog man and he was hunting at the time. When

635
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:34,559
he was hunting, it vanished in front of him, and

636
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,400
when it did that, he didn't know what to think

637
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,400
or what to do. He just left the area. I said, sure,

638
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:44,400
just kept make sure you watch and keep your eyes

639
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,519
up and make sure nothing's following you. That's what you

640
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:49,000
should have done. And he's like, I should have done that,

641
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:50,800
but I didn't. He's like, I just brought out of

642
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,079
that area and didn't getting in that day. I said, well,

643
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:02,079
I know why, because it just that there was the

644
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,880
point that I'm like, I'm done, I just want to

645
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,320
leave it alone and everything. I was already scared enough

646
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,400
that knowing that there's other things out here that we

647
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,880
don't know about, nobody knows about that happens. All I

648
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,920
can say is just stay out of their territory, leave

649
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,360
them alone, don't bother with it, don't even take pictures.

650
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,159
Just stay away from all of it, because if not,

651
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:32,280
you're gonna end up with negative, negative interactions with anything

652
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,760
and everything, and it's just not worth it. Honestly to me,

653
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:38,960
it's never worth it. I just want my story to

654
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,440
be out there and be told because that was some

655
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,360
things that was weird to happen in my life that

656
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,119
I didn't did not know that would happen, and it did,

657
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,559
and it scared me, and it put me to a

658
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:56,039
point where it was I was holding on to all

659
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:59,039
this weight and being able to try to get it

660
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,760
talk somebody, get her off of me. It did that

661
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,039
that that did help out good bit, But it was

662
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:12,760
just yeah, it was just crazy. I didn't know what

663
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,960
to do. But I'm glad I decided to do the

664
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,199
right things and keep my my life on track and

665
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:24,039
keep my sobriety and keep moving on with whatever I

666
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:26,280
need to, and like I said, I take my medication

667
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,519
and stuff like that. Just make sure I do as

668
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,400
I'm supposed to and be able to move on with

669
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,119
my life. And do what I need to do to

670
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:38,599
make it better, because if I would have dwelled on

671
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,000
something like that, I would have tore myself apart and

672
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,280
I would have ran down the wrong direction and probably

673
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,599
wouldn't be here to this day. I know I wouldn't

674
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:53,159
be I probably wouldn't be here at all. And my kids.

675
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,559
I love my kids. I'll do anything for them. That's

676
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:59,440
why I'm here, just for them. I'm glad. I'm really

677
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,840
glad about that. But yeah, it's just so much stuff

678
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,840
that has happened. It's it's I'm good and happy that

679
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,519
it's over with and I don't have to deal with

680
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:17,639
it at all no more, because I don't want to

681
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:21,280
know anything else. I don't want any parts of it.

682
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,360
I just want to be left alone. And I think

683
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:29,480
from my bloodline and everything in my everything that has

684
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:33,440
happened to me, I think that has some type of

685
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,719
I don't think that has a lot to do with it,

686
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,199
but I think it has something to do with it.

687
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:47,960
Because knowing that, I'd love to be out if it's

688
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:50,039
nice out, I'd love to be outside all day long.

689
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,199
I don't care what time it is. I would I'd

690
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,800
stay out all night if I want to, but I

691
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:01,159
won't anymore. But it's just h Yeah, I'm trying to

692
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,639
do the best, and I'm doing good now and I'm

693
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,760
keeping it the way it is, and I'm tired of

694
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:11,000
having to hold on to a weight that I needed

695
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,400
to get off my shoulders and it needed to be gone.

696
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,639
It's just I get so excited just trying to tell

697
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:21,880
the story and get everything out there that I can

698
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,760
that it all bundles up and it's just crazy and

699
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,599
then that gets scared all over again just by telling it.

700
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:35,639
It's just it's weird. Everybody's told me they'd seen goosebumps

701
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,719
coming up on my arms and everything. It's weird. They're

702
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,800
like in the change my eyes, fear for being normal,

703
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,079
to be in fear, they would see that, and it's

704
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:46,559
just weird.

705
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:49,519
Speaker 2: It's not weird at all when you consider what you've

706
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:50,000
been through.

707
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,039
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, I call it weird because no one

708
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:59,000
has ever seen me like that at all period. Yeah,

709
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,840
And I'm just type that. I'm a type of person

710
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,000
I don't care about what happened to what goes on.

711
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:09,440
But that's one thing that I did care about because

712
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,480
that was something that I did not know about that

713
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:12,639
literally scared me.

714
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,079
Speaker 2: And understandably so after having such a frightening night the

715
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,400
way you did due to that group of dog men.

716
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,599
Do you think the original Eric will ever come back

717
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,639
or do you think you're forever changed?

718
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm never going to come back to the way

719
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,079
I used to be. I'm a totally different person. It's yeah,

720
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:37,639
it's I'm not the same. I probably would never be

721
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:44,480
the same. Even my ex wife said, I've changed. I'm

722
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:45,840
not the same person I used to be.

723
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:49,039
Speaker 2: One of the things we worked out in that first

724
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:52,519
conversation was why it or they opened up your car

725
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:55,320
door but then left it open, and why they also

726
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,960
took your lighter. How much of a help was it

727
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,199
for you when you finally understood why they did those things.

728
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,119
Speaker 1: Do you after somebody telling me that they do it

729
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:10,719
to mess with me? Yeah? I think they want my reaction.

730
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,639
They wanted to know. They wanted to have a lot

731
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:15,719
of fun with me, is what they wanted. They wanted

732
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,039
to do what they wanted to do, and once they

733
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:23,360
got bored, then they go after their prey. Find of

734
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,519
like anybody, any animal that plays with their prey up

735
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,760
end up killing them or you know, doing what they

736
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,000
need to do to take whatever they need for themselves.

737
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:40,000
They're opportunists. They have the opportunity, they'll take it.

738
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: It really is a shame they gets such a kick

739
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,159
out of doing things like that. It really is.

740
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: Well, us humans, we have a point of where we

741
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,079
play pranks and stuff on our on our friends and family,

742
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,559
and well they do it to us. And that's what

743
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:59,960
I was able to learn and understand was what our

744
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:00,480
was told.

745
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,119
Speaker 2: Were you renting that property or did you have a

746
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:05,519
mortgage on it?

747
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:07,199
Speaker 1: It was rented property.

748
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,679
Speaker 2: It was rented. I see, Well, after you moved out

749
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,159
of the property after that last experience, did you ever

750
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:19,239
tell your lamb lord anything about why you're moving or

751
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,679
did you keep that to yourself?

752
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: Put this way, landlord is she's a unique Him and

753
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,159
her are unique people. So I just left it at

754
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:39,159
that and we just we left and it was just like,

755
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,079
you guys, take care of that. I'm just gonna we're leaving.

756
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:49,639
We're not staying. We lived there for a long enough time.

757
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,519
But that explains why there was people that kept moving

758
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,280
in and out there over so many years of living there,

759
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,639
because that's what people were told at the time. People

760
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:05,199
would stay a year or two maybe three years and

761
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,480
they'd leave. And I think this is why.

762
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just might be right about that. Do you

763
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:15,800
think all of your dog mean experiences are related somehow

764
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,519
to that first experience when you saw that figure in

765
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:19,000
the road.

766
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I am one hundred percent. Yeah, I think that's

767
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,280
what when it all started. Honestly, because I was thinking

768
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,480
about that last night. I think that's when it literally started.

769
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:34,039
Because I wasn't going to make a chance to move

770
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,280
out of the way or whatever. I was literally going

771
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,480
to hit it, you know, because I thought it was

772
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,400
a tree branch. And I care less about a car.

773
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,559
I care about my life and my friends in life.

774
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,639
I thought I don't care about the car. No, a

775
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,679
car could be fixed.

776
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:51,519
Speaker 2: Well that's good you felt that way after you had

777
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:55,039
that experience when you're working on your car outside. You

778
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:58,159
still went outside after that on a regular basis. But

779
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,840
did you change anything how you did things? Yeah?

780
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,159
Speaker 1: I did, Like I would, I go out during the day, dude,

781
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:07,800
what I needed to do, get that done. But we're

782
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,880
when it started getting to be dusk and starting to

783
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,159
get dark, that's when I didn't matter what I was doing.

784
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:15,159
I stopped doing what I was doing, packed everything up,

785
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:17,280
and went in the house and just stayed in the house.

786
00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 2: Can't say I blame you at all. How remote was

787
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,760
that property.

788
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,079
Speaker 1: It was on. It was about maybe two miles out

789
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:33,039
of town where we lived at and the neighbors lived close,

790
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,360
but but not real close, but close enough, but like

791
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,320
they were walking distance basically. But I noticed they didn't

792
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,039
ever they never, ever, ever, ever ever let their dogs

793
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:45,639
out at night at all. They always brought them in

794
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:48,280
the house. I always thought that was weird because they

795
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,800
were hunting dogs. They were always outside, but they always

796
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,599
end up bringing them in the house at night.

797
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: Huh. Well, good people, nonetheless, But it sounds like they

798
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,639
might have known something because not me. May people bring

799
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:05,000
their hunting dogs inside, as you will know, Yeah, yeah,

800
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:09,119
they must have known. Seeing a sasquatch for the first

801
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:12,480
time the way you did is an awfully profound experience,

802
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:15,840
that's a given. But most people wouldn't have taken their

803
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,480
eyes off the squatch. Did you want an attempt to

804
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,639
see what it was looking at as it was looking

805
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,239
around or did you keep your eyes locked on it?

806
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,599
Speaker 1: When I've seen it, I was looking at it for

807
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,760
about ten to fifteen minutes because it was it didn't

808
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,960
want to move from where it was at, because you

809
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,039
could tell it was just staring off in a way

810
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:38,880
and wouldn't look at me at all. It looked around

811
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,760
its surroundings and you'd see it. You can see it

812
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,000
move his head, whatever it was. It was just trying

813
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:49,400
to get cover or just keeping an eye on what's

814
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,000
what it was seeing and wherever it was. I just

815
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:55,159
finished up what I was doing and I just I

816
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,599
just kept my mouth shut, went in and went to bed.

817
00:51:58,119 --> 00:51:59,760
Well not the bet. I just went to my bedroom,

818
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:04,280
just sat there and just you know, kept my mind.

819
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:06,559
That is because it was on a weekend and I

820
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:08,639
wasn't good. I didn't want anything at the root of

821
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,000
my weekend that weekend. But yeah, I just I just

822
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,840
stayed to myself and just kept thinking, what is it?

823
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,320
What's going on? You know, if something like this is

824
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,320
afraid of something else, or is it watching what else

825
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,440
is going on and it's ignoring me, that means there's

826
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,679
something else that's a bigger threat to them than me.

827
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:35,719
And if it's not worrying about me, so whatever the

828
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,239
threat is, I don't need to be around.

829
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, when a sasquatch seems to be concerned about what's

830
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:45,599
around it. That's a good time to really put your

831
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:49,320
intentas up and keep your head on the swivel as well.

832
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:50,239
I get it.

833
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it just because you can see it,

834
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:59,239
Like the trails are coming through there, they're wider than

835
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,519
a deer trail. I mean they're wider. So wherever's walking

836
00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:08,119
through there, there's they're walking from several different ways for

837
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:12,159
different places, and it cuts right through where I was

838
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:14,760
living at. It was literally cutting through the whole but

839
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,360
basically the whole tree line of the back where we

840
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,760
have the back of the the house is boundaries are

841
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,599
cut right into the top quarter of it, cut through

842
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:31,320
there and go down through and up and around. It

843
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,840
was just weird and just walking on those trails. They

844
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,840
kind of felt weird though too, like you could tell

845
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,239
if something was watching you because it was really quiet.

846
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,440
You would not hear nothing, not and no animal, no nothing.

847
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: Well, if they don't have a TV, you were on TV.

848
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,559
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I guess we're there entertainment for time being until

849
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:54,800
you get tired of us.

850
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: Seems like that's pretty much how it is sometimes. Yeah,

851
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:02,000
how sure are you that your experiences with those dog

852
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:04,599
men weren't tied somehow to the demon that you told

853
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:05,119
us about.

854
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:11,079
Speaker 1: Honestly, I have no idea it could be. It most

855
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:17,719
definitely could be. I don't know, but uh, like with

856
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,239
stuff like that has happened because I had dealt with

857
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,119
spiritual stuff growing up. I had like hauntings and stuff

858
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:26,679
growing up dealing with that, and I'm to the point

859
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,639
I can ignore it to a very good extent where

860
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,000
don't bother me, But when certain things start happening, that's

861
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,760
when i'd rather get out and about. And now bringing

862
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,800
that up, that can actually probably be the reason why. Yeah,

863
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,320
I've never and you know what, somebody else made a

864
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,960
comment on one because I made a comment on somebody's

865
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,079
page about me having to deal with this and stuff

866
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:53,079
and he said, you know, their demons or it could

867
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:57,960
be caused by demons or something like that. But now, yeah,

868
00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:01,880
I think you could be. Most definitely could be, because

869
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,719
I know what happened was the place I was living

870
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,800
at years and years and years ago, there was It's

871
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,320
just weird. I didn't understand why anybody would have a

872
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:18,679
gargoyle sitting in somebody's hot water heater. I'm like, what's

873
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,119
what's this thing in here? But when I moved that.

874
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:23,679
That's when everything started changing, and I wish I would

875
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,320
never have done.

876
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: That really does make you wonder what happened in the

877
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,559
house before you moved in.

878
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, talk to a few people that ended up

879
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:36,119
living there before I didn't, and then a few that

880
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:38,719
lived there after I did, had the same issues with

881
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:42,440
like me. But the ones before me told me about

882
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,599
them dealing with a wigi board at one point, and

883
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:49,840
I told I didn't believe that. I don't. I don't.

884
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,360
I don't care too much for wigi board or anything

885
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,159
like that, but I hear so much things about them,

886
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,960
and if they are what they are, I don't. I

887
00:55:58,039 --> 00:55:59,719
still don't want nothing to deal with them.

888
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,559
Speaker 2: Smart man, Nothing good comes from playing with him.

889
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just because everything nowadays it's always good versus evil,

890
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,679
and there there's no way of getting around it or

891
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,719
about it other than believing in your Lord and savior.

892
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 2: That's about it, good man, that's right.

893
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,639
Speaker 1: It's good.

894
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,039
Speaker 2: You know that the night you saw that pack, you'd

895
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,559
gone outside to smoke because he didn't smoke in the

896
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:27,960
house back then. Do you smoke inside every time now

897
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,639
or do you still go outside to smoke? No?

898
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,199
Speaker 1: No, no, what I would do is i'd smoke before.

899
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,000
I'd go ahead and smoke before I would go before

900
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,199
it get too dark. Then I go in the house,

901
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,400
children relax, and I'll just wait it out and until

902
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,880
next morning. Then I'd smoke a cigarette. I just would

903
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,559
not go outside at all. I wouldn't even smoke in

904
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:50,159
the house at all, because I'd rather be respectful of

905
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:55,280
other people's wishes in there, of what they want. And

906
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,960
you know, in life, everybody needs to give respect to

907
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:04,880
earn respect, and that's the way it should be. But

908
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,599
a lot of people don't do that. And I feel

909
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,760
I feel like every way needs to love one another anyways,

910
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,320
because everything's already going down to toilet, is you look around,

911
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:22,000
nothing's really good going out of anything anymore.

912
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:25,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, things have definitely taken a turn for the worst.

913
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:29,199
There's no denying that. Well, what's about time for us

914
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:31,239
to get out, if you're eric, But before we do,

915
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:32,800
do you have any clothes and comments you want to

916
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:33,599
put out there for us?

917
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: All I could say is, if anybody's ever in the woods,

918
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,000
just keep your eyes open, what you're doing, your surroundings.

919
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:43,480
If it gets quiet, still keep an eye out and

920
00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:45,360
get out of that back out of there as quick

921
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,159
as you can because you're in somebody else's territory where

922
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,760
basically their home, so you wouldn't want anybody in your home.

923
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,239
So I'd say just leave what's there alone and just

924
00:57:56,559 --> 00:57:59,599
walk out there, because you can always find another place

925
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:01,679
to go if you need to hunt or whatever. But

926
00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:05,360
it's not worth dealing with what I had to deal

927
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,559
with because it would drive you insane. Literally.

928
00:58:11,079 --> 00:58:12,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is a shame you had to deal

929
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:15,039
with half of what you did. But I'm glad it

930
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:18,400
seems to be in your rear view now, Thank goodness.

931
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm just glad I've been able to sleep good for

932
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,079
one whole night in the past nine years. Basically I

933
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:26,960
was able to sleep good to get all this off

934
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,960
my shoulders felt so good.

935
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: Well that's music to my ears.

936
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

937
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: I just hope it gets better and better from here.

938
00:58:34,199 --> 00:58:37,559
I really do. But having said that, thanks again so

939
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,039
much for coming on to share those experiences with us.

940
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:41,320
I really appreciate it.

941
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's just what I'm just wanting to get

942
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,159
that out there because honestly, I didn't want to see

943
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:53,079
or hear anything of somebody being which of it just

944
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:56,880
hasn't already happened, you know, in other places of people

945
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,519
being attacked by dog man or what I ever be

946
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:03,519
in the wrong area, wrong place at the wrong time,

947
00:59:04,719 --> 00:59:08,400
and yeah, I just don't want to There's too much

948
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,599
of that as of right now, you know, happening, and

949
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,960
I know some people don't want to talk about it

950
00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:19,679
or speak about it, but it does help to get

951
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,440
get it out and get the weight off your shoulders

952
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,599
and talk to somebody that even to VIC or anybody

953
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:29,800
that would listen to you. I was lucky enough that

954
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,239
I was able to have a certain family members to

955
00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:34,679
be able to listen to me and understand and believe

956
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:39,920
what I was saying. And yeah, my, if it wasn't

957
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,119
for my uncle believe in me, which I'm I'm glad.

958
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:50,440
I'm glad he was there because honestly, it just it

959
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:55,599
was that was a relief because I told several people

960
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,159
about what happened and everything they ask so I gave

961
00:59:59,199 --> 01:00:03,079
them the truth because I'm not going to lie to anybody.

962
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,039
If you want to know, I'll tell you. I'm not

963
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:07,480
going to lie to you. But if you want me

964
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:09,360
to lie to you, I'll lie to you. But that

965
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,360
ain't my that's not my way of dealing with things.

966
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,360
I'd rather be truthful because I'm tired of living my

967
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,639
old life to where you have to hide and lie

968
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:22,679
about just to no, it's better off just to tell

969
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:26,400
the truth and keep everything on straight and narrow and

970
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,920
move on with your life. If you lie and you

971
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,400
I'm not going to tell the truth, then basically you're

972
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,039
wasting your time. You're gonna get caught no matter what.

973
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:40,480
Tell the truth. There's no way of getting caught. It's

974
01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:43,559
the truth. And that's what I was able to do.

975
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,440
And that's when my when my uncle is like, yeah,

976
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,239
he's telling the truth. Even seeing the fear in my

977
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,239
eyes and telling them this story, he's like he's like,

978
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,239
I can see how shaken up you get and how

979
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:02,719
I would do things talking about this situation. And he's like,

980
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:06,840
he's like, I feel bad for you. And to him,

981
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,639
I said, I'm I told him myself. It's kind of

982
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:13,679
a learning experience. Not only that, it's kind of taught

983
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:18,840
me that it's best mind your own business and try

984
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,360
to do what you need to do for yourself. And

985
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,840
if you have any issues and you're out there and

986
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,280
things like that happen, just back out and walk away

987
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,760
and try to find another way, because it's not worth

988
01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:33,719
it's not worth it, it's really.

989
01:01:33,519 --> 01:01:37,719
Speaker 2: Not eric for more reasons than one. I'm so glad

990
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,280
you had your uncle to help you out too. That's

991
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,920
really good advice. That sounds like he helped you tremendously.

992
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:47,480
But having said that, thanks again so much for your time,

993
01:01:47,559 --> 01:02:03,760
and have a great nights.

994
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:12,039
Speaker 1: English