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Speaker 2: One of the reflections I saw was actually interesting where
they charted various issues across the political spectrum, and it
helps to explain something interesting. And it looks back at
the early two thousands through now and it says, where's
the political right been through that period of time, And
it's pretty much the same. I mean, the exception is
Trump's more socially libertarian, but by and large, the issues,
the economic issues, the role of government issues, those track
pretty straight line down the chart two thousand and eight
nine through now. And if you look at the moderates,
the unaffiliated voters, and you look at where they've tracked,
they've tracked kind of that way, but they've moved from
two thousand and six on down to now they've tracked
a little more left of where they started out. In
other words, it wasn't a straight line, but it's kind
of a slight left tilt. But the political left in
this country from two thousand and eight, if you looked
around two thousand and five eight, the political left and
the moderates were much more closely aligned. But the left
has moved much further left. I mean, the transgender issue
would not have been a big deal back in two
thousand and five six for the political left. The role
of the border would not have been that divisive all
of these issues. So if you wonder, and I will
make this assertion and absolutely believe it, if I were
to say, and whether you're on the left or right,
who was more likely to stop being friends with someone
because of their political beliefs. It's almost universal that the
leftist who think they are the most tolerant, who think
they are the most understanding, who think they're the most
you know, profoundly intellectual people, are not. They're the ones
most likely to have cut you off. They're also the
ones most likely to have suggested you need to cut
off your family members, that there's no hope for them. Now,
let that sink in for a minute, because it illustrates
a level of hypocrisy that you you don't often see
in such vivid and stark terms when they believe that
what's happened is that the people on the right have
become more ignorant over time, and that they've just become
they've had a hire, they've had some kind of epiphany
of human understanding that makes them better than you. And
here's I don't know any of my right leaning friends
that have even remotely suggested that they want to cut
off a family member because they have them to them.
It's more of a humorous discussion. They talk about the
fact that these family members of these friends have no
tolerance for them. But they don't. There's no lack of
they don't want to just they don't want to cut
those people off. They've been cut off, but they're not
the ones doing the cutting. And that it's irony, isn't
it When when the people who tell you they're not
going to talk to you because you may have supported
Trump are the ones that, in the same breath will
tell you that they are more tolerant and they ain't.
They aren't. That says more about their mental state than yours,
and that's one of the problems. So when you look
at that spectrum, Democrats have shifted sharply leftwards on cultural
issue in recent years, leaving the media and voters behind.
And that's the Financial Times analysis of US General Social Survey.
Financial Times is a graphic. They've got that average position
of Americans who identify as strong Democrats and strong Republicans
compared to the median voter, and Democrats have gone way
to the left. I mean, they're out there on a limb.
It's so bad. And if you are a Democrat and
you're listening to the show, I'm not casting aspersions towards you.
What I'm asking you to do is think about what
I said. I'm not judging you. What I am saying
is this is a good time to take stock of
that and say, are you really tolerant? And if you
are really tolerant, why would you have cut your friends off?
You believe you're right about all these things, but you
can't have a discussion without being emotional about it. I
know many Christians who speak to their Unchristian friends and
it's not hubris and anger and derision, and it's not
that they think they're better than their friends. They want
to share what they consider the glory of their belief
system with someone. They want to share that. They want
those people to be included in that. They don't want
to push them away. But I guess if you're an
earth worse shipping, you know, earth worshiping lefty that loves
government and doesn't like gosh, see that sounds judge, he
doesn't doesn't like freedom. I think the people on the
left don't realize I believe this is my belief, that
they don't realize that freedom is good. They think that
ignorant people shouldn't have freedom. That if you're if you're educated,
and you're I guess an elite, that you should have freedom.
But all these ignorant people, maybe they shouldn't have freedom.
If you voted for Trump, maybe those people don't deserve freedom. Remember,
there are people on the political left in the climate
change movement that think that if you're a denier and
we'll talk about that tournam in a minute, if you're
a denier, you should be in prison. They believe at
the global level that the human threat to the planet
is so great that people that don't buy into their
narrative on the climate impacts and humans on it, that
they should be allowed to imprison you and style you.
They don't want to have the debate. Time for debate
is over. It's time to put some bodies in jail cells.
That's that's the terrifying part about the way these people
don't recognize and whereas one of the great things, if
they're so good, why not have those to bring the
Richard Linzen in from MI. I t let him debate,
Let him debate, Let the you know, not Pat Michaels
who passed not too long ago. But let these people
on both sides have this great debate. Let job ASTARTI
who's a weather historian, who can go back and look
at storm systems over the past one hundred years and
show you patterns that turn makes storms stronger or less strong.
Look at a climate, look at this these weather patterns.
Let's talk about that. Is it substantial? Has it changed
that much? Is it is there a that is there
is Could it be the sun? Could it be just
changes in the earth. And if it is some man
made stuff and I know the left thing, oh yes
it is, let's just say it. Is Is it enough?
Is it destroying the planet, or is a greening planet good?
In other words, isn't it maybe good that we're not
going to have another ice age? Because imagine if we
did for whatever reason, sunspot activity, whatever happened, because it's
happened before, happened pretty recently. Actually, when Napoleon was marching
on Moscow. I mentioned that the other day. So in
the early eighteen hundreds, we had a little like the
River Thames was frozen over. That wasn't the standard, that
wasn't the norm. That was a freak of nature, horrifically
cold period of time that lasted and persisted for a
decade plus, quite like thirty forty years. We weren't better
off then. A lot of people died because of that.
But what if the Earth had another one of those
oscillations or the sun or whatever cause that, if that happened,
we wouldn't be better off, would we? Of course we
wouldn't be. So that's that's the most serious problem. We
can't have these debates anymore because the political left has
gotten so far left. They're like, I'll stop space to
your relatives, don't because you know and you hear this,
and when they espouse these views It's sad that we
can't have these conversations, isn't it. They don't want to
be rational, then that's the irony of this elitism. These
elite people aren't rational people anymore used to be.
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through some jobs data, and this is the staggering part
of this job's data. They've been down massive downward revisions
of the jobs data that they remember they reported during
that in quarter two jobs were created. Kamala was talking
about jobs being created. The Biden miill, look, we've created
all these jobs. It turns out they revised them that
job as to me, gain of six hundred fifty three
thousand was just a total fiction that actually lost eight
hundred thousand jobs. They had initially reported six hundred and
fifty three thousand job gains. It was actually negative. And furthermore,
there was also a revision of eight hundred thousand jobs
from last year that the data was completely falsified, a
complete falsify it. See how I can remember, you know,
during an Obama's term, they would they would have these
great numbers and then the actual numbers would come out
and they would be worse. All sorts of things, the economy, spending,
consumer confidence also, it would be worse. And then when
Trump was in alves and again this is this is
completely you know my perspective on this, but I would
remember they would say, oh, these numbers are gona be terrible,
They're gonna be riblely, and then they would be better.
The actual numbers were better, but you've got, you know,
in the in the news media cycle, you get, you know,
a couple of weeks of positive when a Democrat was
in there, like Joe Biden, and a couple of weeks
of negative if a Republican was in there. And this
is by the same news media that are in free
fault now. And then when when the actual numbers would
come out, nobody really paid attention because it was in
the past. Oh, well, the job numbers for Trump were
actually a lot better. Oh the job nurse for Biden
were actually a lot worse. But that's not the news story.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The people in the Twitter fear twittersphere and social media,
Oh my gosh, you believe this, but that's you're not
gonna hear. ABC come out and say, oh, by the way,
those job numbers were a complete utter lie, and we
didn't question it. We just accepted whatever they told us.
And then the next question would be if it was
done to you, the next question would be, wait a minute,
why does this keep happening? Then you go back to
them and say, you've done this four times. Now, why
are they always revised?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: What are you doing wrong that you can't read your
own data? But do the news media do that? No?
Does David Murr go out there and say no, he'll
accuse you of spreading rumors about eating cats, but he
will not care if eight hundred thousand American jobs didn't exist.
Seems I don't know, like it would be relevant, like
it would matter, like there would be something to it.
But alas it is not true. But as I read
these kind of reports, I'm the bid economy was not
that great. It just wanted. You came out of government spending,
you added another massive government spending bill, and then you thought,
on the heels of the COVID spending the Inflation Reduction Act,
that you were going to make things better. I don't
know why we have to go down this road all
the time. It doesn't All it did was it took inflation.
And let's pretend inflation is a beautiful little fire that
you're going to roast your marshmallows on, and you took
five gallons of Inflation Reduction Act gasoline and you had
dumped in on it all at once you get an
earth shattering kaboom that would make Marvin marsh and proud.
Meaning all you did was set inflation on fire. And
you knew it. Anybody, anybody with a modicule of economic
sense knew that it was not going to reduce inflation
at all, was going it was going to set it
on steroids. And all you're doing is hurting economic productivity
and growth down the road. All of this spending, all
of this has got to be covered and paid for
with economic activity somewhere down the road. And we just
big wheels, keep on rolling. And we just pushed the car.
And you know what, we were pushing it downhill for
many years, we're pushing it uphill. Now. It is a
boat anchor on your kids. It's a boat anchor on
those still in the workforce. And I think Americans realize that.
I think there's a reality check now that you folks
in DC have really kicked everyone's but all the way
down the road. Everyone out there that owns a company,
everyone that's well. I even think the workers get it now.
The workers realize, hey, wait a minute, I gotta pay
for this. I got I owe one hundred and seventy
one thousand dollars. What are you talking about. I thought
I had a debt for my mortgage. No, no, you
have mortgage debt. You also owe your country and the
spending proclivities of your friends in Congress another one hundred
and seventy one thousand dollars, and just like that, Trump's
in office. So and again, the rand Palls of the
world were right the whole time the world were absolutely correct,
and they have been. I mean, anybody that was trying
to face the music on this stuff, they were right.
And it's not going to be pretty. It's not going
to be easy. It's not going to be but we
have to do it, so we will and we shall.
I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful that the next couple of election
overviews will be like that. Now I do want to
get to and I think, I, well, we're going to
start on this a little bit, because this is part
of the part of our problem is not only do
we have a spending problem. For the past fifty years,
we've had a subsidy problem. I would maintain imagine. I
said it earlier that one of the worst problems I've
seen out there is that we as we'd love to
subsidize everything. We think that somehow government throwing your money
at something that you chose not to do or be
a part of, you know, would make a profound difference.
And I've always believed, well, not always probably I had
about ten minutes right and believe this, and I said
it's worth noting because I was looking at the renewable
energy stuff, and we have these targets and everything's driven
by you know, Greta Thunberg, and how somehow she's miraculously
more stout than the rest of the planet on this stuff.
That all of these green energy subsidies and green energy
everything is good. It makes things better. But I would
I would assert that renewable energy would be much further
down the path of success, and it would be much cheaper,
and it would accomplish far more if the government had
stopped forcing it and subsidizing it. If the government had
been forcing and subsidizing cell phones. Imagine if you would
if they had said, we're gonna subsidize cell phones. We're
gonna force we're gonna make everyone want to get everyone
away from the previous the landline technology. We're going to
force cell phones. We're gonna make everybody have a cell phone,
we're gonna subsidize it. I really believe we'd still be
using landlines, and we would still have a lot of bagphones.
You remember those bagphones that use VHS batteries and the luggables.
They're like three pounds. They had the green buttons and
every time he hit a button he made a noise.
The sunny Crockett had one in his Miami vice Daytona
Ferrari or whatever. I think we wouldn't be much further
down the road. So John, welcome to the show. How
are you this afternoon? What's up?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 3: Hey Chad? Once again, Hey, I appreciate your time. You're
talking about economics there and throwing five gallons gasoling on
the marshmallow the fire and how these people gain credibility.
What I was looking to ask for you is a
simple opinion. If we go back to Rush Limball days.
He always loved to do an intro when he talked
about a guy named Robert Wright.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he's still around, by the way.
Speaker 3: Lunacy, the lunacy that just left us would dribble. But
also then we recently was given amnesty in freedom. When
Paul Krugman announced his retirement from The New York Times
as a Nobel Kensian economy.
Speaker 2: Yes, why on earth?
Speaker 3: And you're opinion, do you think these guys and others
liked them, gained traction and they're given credibility.
Speaker 2: I think it's twofold, and I love the question. I
think this is a beautiful question. I think it calls
remember when Obama? Are you still with me? John? You're
still there? Oh you'll You'll remember when Obama got elected
and they awarded him the Nobel Peace Prize before he
even got inaugurated the first time. That's kind of preemptive.
He's going to bring about more peace and he didn't,
but they award. That's what I'm saying that they, the
media and these organizations, they they bestow upon people honors
and privileges without accomplishment. It's the most non free market
way of doing things. So they they bestow like Krugman
won a Nobel Prize too, he won a Nobel Prize
in economics. He was wrong, He's been wrong for thirty years.
He was wrong about government spending and debt and deficits.
He was wrong, and so is Reich.
Speaker 4: Riich.
Speaker 2: By the way, Reich is advising as of one out
hour ago that the Democrats do not move to the center.
I mean, he's been wrong for twenty five years too,
Krugman recry, so he's still out there, Robert, right, I
remember that. That's a great memory there, all right?
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Speaker 2: I'm astounded every day that we don't have Epstein's list
public yet, and I blamed the medium. The media should
be asking that question ad nauseam until it's public, and
it is amazing that it isn't public. And you know,
even the p Diddy stuff, do you really think we'll
ever know how bad it was? I want to believe
we will, but I'm not sure. I mean, this whole
pedo mentality of the Hollywood left while lecturing us about yeah,
modesty and propriety, I mean, just is astounding. Now looking
at Krugman and Robert Reich and the rest of these
Austrian economic types, it you've got to realize that their
mentality is this. So Austrian economics essentially asserts that governments
reach a point in size where they, through their spending
and borrowing, are the ones that make or break economies,
That they make economies better through their spending and borrowing.
And so that's kind of what we've seen at work
in our country since you know, I guess the sixties
post Kennedy is that we just barred our way and
spent our way into oblivion. And the Austrian so Krugman
wins a Nobel, and Robert Reich, you know, continues to
run around making assertions that are wrong. We know that
that doesn't work, we know we've limped by. But to
put tend that that thirty eight billion, here's the thing.
You have to have the pretense that the thirty eight
billion is irrelevant. You have to go through life and
you have to say you know what, all the borrowing
doesn't matter. The government will never default under the American public,
but that borrowing just borrow forever, and there are no
consequences to the borrowing forever. And it's boring and it's
not sexy. It's kind of like climate chase. It's not
a sexy topic to push back on that narrative. It's
not a sexy topic to push back on government borrowing.
People will fall asleep, they're run off the road, they'll
turn their radios off, they'll flip to another station, they'll
watch the Kardashians before they'll ever listen to something economically
about this being bad. It's far sexier to say, hey,
borrow another trillion and give it to a bunch of
people who want to study cats on treadmills. That's cool.
Give it to people who want to buy monkeys, and
give it to the underprivilege. Whatever, whatever moon brain crazy
idea you can come up with. If you can just
fund that with borrowed money, it's very news. Look at
this amazing new facility where people can live suspended from
tree branches and be very green, and it's all funded
with some grant and that sounds cool. The consequences are
the reason and and the individuals who ask earlier, who
had said, you know, Chad, why don't they ever do that?
When John had called in and asked that, why don't
we ever? Why do they continue to having some kind
of notariety because they never have to live with consequences.
One thing about a kind of a Christian conservative mentality
is there are consequences to your actions. You there are
when you do something, there are We know that even
if there's not consequences here, there's consequences later on, you know,
at the end of that life, after their their consequences.
And I think the left doesn't really they don't. The
only the only consequential bad actors are conservatives because everything
they want is about responsibility. Now, from a financial standpoint
and economic standpoint, you have to assume some responsibility for
things that are happening in your life, regardless of what
happened to you. You can't blame everything in your life
and what happened in the past. Not only that, it's
even worse, you can't blame everything that's happening in your
life on generational pasts. Things that happen generations and generations
and generations ago. You can't. There's nothing, there's nothing of
worth to U as an individual that comes from that mentality.
But it sounds good to say you're a victim. You're
the victim, and thus anything that happens to you isn't
really your fault. You're overweight, not your fault. It's because
of all these processed foods have been shoved down your
throat and forced you to need them. You're a violent
person that steals from people. Not your fault. It's horrible
things that happened to you when you were young. It's
you know, hey, you didn't get that job. Not your fault.
It's because somebody with privilege moved to the front of
the line. Nothing is. And again that sounds very heartless,
doesn't it. It's easy to make conservatives sound heartless. The
truth of the matter is hard work, hard work. I mean, look,
it's easy for me, as a fifty plus year old dude,
I can gain weight. Yeah. Not easy is to gain weight.
It's so easy. You don't even have to really do
a whole lot. You just show up, you eat, and
don't do very much. You can gain weight. It's hard
work not to not gain weight for some people. For
a lot of people, apparently many people. I can sit
there and blame the food industry. I can blame the restaurants,
I can blame I can blame late night TV. I
can blame I don't know, I saw a commercial for
a fast food I want to go get. I can
blame everybody, But ultimately, it's the guy that's crawling on
that scale that won't put down that whatever pe can
pie at Christmas. That's the guy who's to blame. It's
not the pie's fault. And that's where I think our
society likes these people that tell you it's not your fault.
It's this confirmation by saying, you know what, Robert Riich says,
we should keep borrowing. You know what that means, I
can fund all my liberal goodie two shoe projects. And
you know what, this other guy is not just krugnant
where Robert Riich says all say it, I'm gonna fund him.
And there's no consequences. Why because by the time I'm
out of office, it won't matter. Not on me, it's
on someone else, someone else's problem. But it's opm baby,
it's other people's money. And that's the problem with all
of this is it's other people's money, and it's easy
to do that, but they have credibility. Obama gets a
peace Prize by getting elected. Looking in retrospect, I think
history is not going to look favorably on Obama. He
didn't make race relations better, they got worse. He didn't
make the economy better, got worse. The ACA will not
be remembered as this great thing. It was a massive
spending problem project that didn't do anything to improve healthcare
in this country. You can say, well, twenty million people
now have healthcare. No, they have a subsidized insurance product.
They don't necessarily have better access to healthcare because there
aren't as many access points to healthcare as there were.
It's heavily bureaucratized. But these people are wildly popular, although
I think Obama was probably the biggest loser last year. Joe,
thank you for holding through the break there or right
when the break started, so I appreciate you holding. Welcome
to the show. Merry Christmas to.
Speaker 4: You, Merry Christmas to you, and a happy New Year.
And I was listening to your money low get your
your talk about the destinately liberal views and what conservatives
think about and how we should be and the things
we should forget and let gones be bygones. But what
did this country started by? Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, I just want to correct one thing, Joe.
I didn't say let bygones be guyed bygones. I said
accepting personal responsibility and not blaming the past. The past
is what it is. History records it good, bad, and
indifferent and ugly. And we're a country that I have
said many times we had We've made a lot of
mistakes in this country, but I keep going up because
the rest of.
Speaker 4: It I like, so keep going okay, because being one
whose family normally have ever stated that we needed to
blame someone else for our actions, because I was raised
up my help and hand was at the end of
my own arm. And so with that being said, who
we still believe in atonement, retribution and uh uh, the
ability to be accountable because those that benefit from those
things are contributors to the Well, let's just now hold
hands and let's don't have any sense of retribution like
our ancestors in Europe because they were killing each other
right and left over there that Irish didn't didn't like
somebody in there, and and and all of that and
so all that was brought over here, and everything happened
through violence. But but now that the the the spoil
have been sort of resourced out of many of the
hands they originated from, now we need to hold hands
and let's just don't don't think about that stuff back there.
Speaker 2: And Joe, I think I think we need we need
to learn from I think we are and have learned
a great deal from that. And what I'm trying to
ask is, Okay, all of do you and I would
agree that horrible things have happened at the hands of
other people that weren't you, by the way, and weren't me,
by the way. But you're saying that there's some kind
of generational advantage that was bestowed upon people because of
the evils of the past. And I'm not trying to
make fun of you. I'm trying to say, is that what.
Speaker 4: You're saying, Well, let's think of a couple of names, Hilton,
Vanderbilt and some of the others that utilized those things. Morgan, Chase,
JP Morgan. I don't think that they were necessarily fair
in all their dealings, and generational things have been passed down.
And with that being said, where's the accountability. Where's the
retribution and where are the things that we as Americans,
you know, we take We don't go begging and groveling
for things that were taken from We take back. And
so where's that spirit of America?
Speaker 2: Well, I think we earned back. I think you would
look at z Smith Reynolds as one of those with
the tobacco legacy. We look at Kennedy and the bootlegging.
I mean, look at the Kennedy clan. I'm not trying
to say that one is better than the other, okay,
but I'm saying, do you you know the Kennedy's were
one of those families. Even Bill Gates with the building
of the Microsoft Empire, what he's done since then with
that money. A lot of people on the right don't
like him because of the vaccine stuff and the human
population stuff in the world one World government stuff. So
I you know, these are Jeff bezos. You would say
that dude's an uber rich dude along with Elon Musk.
Is that the generational wealth because the Vanderbilts had largely
squandered that wealth, and it's I mean the series and
robut clan that's gone, the kmart Klan they're kind of
you know, it is cyclical, and it doesn't seem to
stick around forever. Vanderbilt's not what it was. Would you agree?
Speaker 4: I would say, if we just do a little bit
of research, we would see that they're doing just fine.
But I'm not going to cherry pick history. What I
that's what you were talking about, making sure that we
as those former dixiecrets that were down here in the
South and how they treated their neighbor, which wasn't.
Speaker 2: Very kind and Christian, very Unchristians.
Speaker 4: And Christians Christians in Europe brought that same basteralization of
the Word of God over here to America, and now
we have the fire and brimstone, and how we treat
people over here and we call ourselves Christians, but they're
not very nice ways.
Speaker 2: Joe, I would say this one. I think that the
the treatment of Christians globally right now is in decline.
You would have if you look at the nine hundred
thousand Christians got killed, I think, and just in Syria
alone the past thirty years. So it's in Europe right now.
There certainly is a realignment taking place, a very anti
Christian movement taking place in money countries. Which is creating
a lot of strife over there. This is never we
are not I have also said throughout this broad not
this particular one, but over the course of the past week,
that you know, it's amazing to me we're not worse
off because there are natural inclinations of human beings that
are horrific in nature. Everyone has these unfortunately horrible thoughts
and stuff, and I'm astounded we're not worse because it
does take kind of a Judeo set of values to
say when you're doing right, when you're doing wrong, and
we all have a personal responsibility to try to ensure
that we don't do those kind of things. I think
you would agree with that. It sounds like you have
that same perspective.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll just leave with this and I will say
that Christians have taught the world very interesting.
Speaker 2: Lessons, Okay, I have, Joe, I appreciate that. I would
say that Judeo Christian values are timeless. I think that
the actions of Christians in many ways, or people that
proclaim that, can be as horrific as any as any group.
I mean, Jonestown massacre was allegedly a Christian group, and
that was one of the worst human trag but the
inherent good that is also within mankind. I mean Christians
were persecuted the early Church. I don't want to get
into this. This could be we could spend like days
on this and it would be a fascinating study. You
could say, you know, the Crusades and what they happen
to do over in that part of the world is
a legacy that lasted. Persists of this stay in the
Middle East, what happened. But I digress. I still believe
that those judaeo values, the country was founded on them.
It also means that we do make mistakes. There is atonement.
There's a lot of personal atonement. Generational atonement is very
old Testament, the original sin. Women need to be punished
for generational sin that. I think the New Testament eradicated
all of that. I believe that strongly, and we have
an obligation to our fellow man. I think it's a
lot of what Christendom is to me. It doesn't mean
that humanity was perfect. It doesn't mean that sins of
the past don't exist. It means that we have a
personal obligation to live a life as best we can.
Two in that image, so I think Joe and I
would agree on more than we disagree on. But looking backwards,
history isn't pretty. And you know what, one hundred years now,
when we look back on this period of history, you're
still going to say it wasn't pretty. And it's unfortunate
that the way we are now. Having said that, I
want to thank you for being a part of the
broadcast today. There was obviously, you know, we cover a
lot of territory here and I'm very proud of it.
And I did want to say I promised this at
the beginning of the show, and I don't know that
I get to it, because I got about a minute
and a half. But there is a group of archaeologists
that have recently uncovered a sarcophagus under Saint Nicholas Church
in Turkey that they hope to tie to Saint Nicholas himself,
the inspiration behind the legendary figure of Santa Claus. The
church site, originally constructed in five twenty a d, was
said to have been built on or near the burial
site of Saint Nicholas, who once served as the Bishop
of mRNA or Myra and died in three point forty
three a d. Which is now dem Ray Turkey. Excavations
at the church have been ongoing since nineteen eighty nine
and continued to yield new artifacts, but none has been
more exciting than finding the sartaphica sarcophagus in the church's
two story annex that experts believe could be that of St. Nicholas. So,
I mean, it's an interesting story that happens to come
out right now of all times. But we may soon
know if that is true, so we'll find out. There's
much more to the story, but that's the short version
of it, and it seems to that he was buried
near that sacred area. The fact that we found a
sarcophagist near the church, which is thought the houses too,
may indicate indeed the area they've been searching for. This
was popular Popular Mechanics today was published.
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